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Mountain Goat Q & A 1/11/17

[size=18]January 11, 2017 Mnt Goat – Special Q&A Edition
 
Hi Everyone,
 
In my January 6th news letter I invited my readers to ask important questions of concerns over this investment. I do not do this often but I realized a need for it at this time, I requested only intelligent questions and questions not dealing with someone else’s info from other  forums or conference calls from many of these “intel gurus”. These prohibited topics included NESARA, GCR and just plain lies.
 
I want to give thanks to GeorgeH for organizing this effort for me and taking care of all his friends in dinarland. I know it is frustrating to him too to help in getting the truth out to people, even if, as he has told me, he too has gotten kicked off many sites for telling the truth. People simply don’t want to hear the truth. Instead they like all the hype with this day to day RV stuff. Then when it doesn’t’ happen they go to yet another guru to get their fix and bash those they just left.[/size]


[size=18]I am glad many of you decided to forward many good questions to me. I hope I can bring some clarity for you. Many of you are so brainwashed already you will probably not believe much of what I tell you today anyhow but I am trying to tell ONLY the TRUTH. It is up to you to believe or not. This part has nothing to do with me….lol….lol….[/size]
 
[size=18]So here are my replies to your questions in italic RED imbedded within your questions. I hope this helps you.[/size]
 
[size=18]As always my comments are in [/size][size=18]italic[/size] [size=18]RED[/size][size=18].[/size]
 
[size=18]YRMALL[/size]
[size=18]1/9/2017 06:34:01 pm[/size]
 
[size=18]Hi Mnt Goat! Glad to see you![/size]
[size=18]Please, let me ask a few questions. [/size][size=18](you were only allowed 1 question but I will forgive you and let you slide this time…lol…lol…)[/size]

[size=18]1) Could you tell us why do you think they still have not launched the lower denoms?[/size]
[size=18](hello YRMALL glad to see you reading up on my information. Let me answer your first question. We have not yet see the lower denoms launched because the CBI is not yet ready to change the rate of the dinar. As you know the launching of the lower denoms will begin this process. They intend to launch only a few of the newer notes including the new 50, 100 and 250 dinar notes in EARLY 2017. They have not yet done this due to SECURITY reasons and needed investment and banking reforms. The CBI has told us this in many articles and I have talked to my CBI contact on this subject matter too. I keep getting from them that they need SECURITY and to put measures in the banking reforms to combat money laundering to terrorists and banking and political corruption. I was told that the CBI has the “green light” to go ahead as needed from the IMF anytime and they set a timeframe within the first quarter of 2017)  [/size]

[size=18]2) How much time it will take between the launch of the first round of ld`s and the second (lower lower denoms)? [/size][size=18](there is no time limit. This will all be based on how quickly the international rate increases and investors flock to Iraq. In fact the pressure now is already building and they can not wait much longer. They are positioning themselves nicely so this could happen soon. They are only going to let the market drive the dinar for so long and sit back and watch what happens. I am told the CBI still plans on bringing it out at 1:1 or just slightly over or under par with the US dollar.)[/size]

[size=18]3) I remember that you said some time ago that the HCL only makes sense with a new revalued rate prior or on the moment of the law approval - Sorry if i misinterpreted!. If so, do you still have this idea? Whats your pov on this topic? [/size][size=18](yes I still believe this notion but remember there are many parts to the HCL. Many of these so called intel gurus only refer to the one part of paying out 17% to Kurdistan and think this is going directly to the citizens. First I want to address this part. It is not going to the citizens but rather the Kurdistan government for payment of their share of oil revenues so lets get this straight first of all. If there is any surplus left over out of the 17% it is up to the legislation in Kurdistan to allocate a payment directly to the people. 90% of these revenues is coming from oil and oil is coming from their region of the country so don’t you think they are entitled to the money? After all they also have to pay the oil companies running the oil extraction process. These are the oil salaries you keep reading about. The second part of the HCL is the part on how the entire oil industry will be run in Iraq from managing oil speculation to digging new wells to how export quotas will be handled/determined. Its all specified in the HCL.[/size]


[size=18]Having said all this the official oil and gas law is so important for Iraq and the GOI as well as the US govt has said many times this law must be passed prior to going forward with Iraq. I still believe they will do this just prior to the RV as they will be fighting over this law as long as they could but they will simply have to give in and pass the law or no RV and they know it. Also we know now that the oil and gas law provisions for these future payments are in an annual budget  for the VERY first time they are in the 2017 annual budget. So the law must now go to parliament soon when the budget is opened since it backs up and substantiates/justifies the budget amounts if they begin to spend it. Why do you think we keep reading recent articles about it? Why do they keep telling us that the oil and gas law is a high priority in the next session of parliament, which by the way just started yesterday. Don't you know by now its all interconnected?)[/size]

[size=18]4) You said once that alak had delivered his resign, but he is still on the helmet of the cbi. Do iraq need a new cbi governor?[/size]
[size=18](Very, very good questions YRMALL and I am so glad you asked this question. I hope everyone else will also pay attention to my answer. About a year ago I know for a fact that there was a huge push to launch the lower denominations and get this RV underway. At this time to coincide Sadar and Allawi made a desperate attempt to get Dr Shabibi back into the CBI and head up the CBI. They talked to Abadi in a meeting over it and we have their notes. Abadi then went to Dr Shabibi and asked him to come back since he was cleared already of all crimes. The process began and Alak was asked to resign and he did. He had a news media meeting and they reported  on it. We all thought for sure Dr Shabs was back. Simply put – Dr Shabs then refused to come back and plan fell apart. Why? He said not until Nori al-Maliki is gone and out of the govt and placed in a position he can not longer send out a death squad to kill him. Now here is what happens very often with these “intel gurus”. They hear information like this and report on it. All is fine however they cling to it and do not adjust to what happens afterwards and so they keep pumping this idea of Dr Shabs returning over and over again but nothing happens. Why? Because they do not adjust to current events and the changing saga as the world turns.[/size]
 
[size=18]Dr Shabs is the sole source for bringing in the IMF, the World Bank back into Iraq to help Abadi with the economy and the banking sector. This latest 2015 SBA with Iraq is not the first. There also was another 2011 SBA but many never heard about this one. Nori al-Maliki’s administration did not do much to move it forward, as he did not care about advancing Iraq nor was he mentally capable of doing it. Nori is simply and idiot and not a very smart guy. He is as crooked as they come. Abadi on the other hand has taken on this task to work with the IMF and get it done. More reforms have been implemented over this last one  year alone of Abadi then in all the Maliki 10 years. Why does Maliki still exist? He negotiated his resignation from PM by being promised a VP position. There was a coupe in play and so they wanted a peaceful transition to a new government. Do you remember the 82 Airborne division being deployed to Baghdad? Well what the hell do you think this was for? Maliki also was going after the CBI reserves. He wants the immunity. In 2018 he loses his immunity. They got files and files on him. Most likely INTERPOL will get him for crimes against humanity. The US govt via the CIA (Obama) still supports him as their patsy to this day. Do you think this will continue under the Trump administration?) [/size][size=18] [/size]


[size=18]5) it stills confuse me (and i think a bunch of other readers too) the exchange of the 25k notes. I know that the 3 zero notes will be valid for like 10 years. But the 25k note (for example) with a rate of 3+ usd, will have a value of 75k+ usd? What will not allow the cbi to exchange only for a 25 new ld.?
 
[/size][size=18](okay I can see the confusion just by reading your question. So let me clarify one more time. So I hope everyone too reads this., So to understand there are 2 assumptions first you must accept. 1)Iraq is operating in dinar currency not going to USD; 2) a dinar is a dinar and we are talking purely about Iraq. So in Iraq and in Iraq alone they will be taking for instance a 25,000 dinar note and bringing for deposit to the bank. It is now worth about $25 USD as it is today right?[/size]
 
[size=18] In the future once they launch the lower denoms if the same person wants get this same 25,000 note out of the bank they can’t. If this same person wanted to withdrawal this 25k note from the bank (now electronically input into the bank records as just $25 USD worth) they would get a $25 dinar note not the old 25k note. Get it. Same value no lop.[/size]
 
[size=18]So now the currency just changed and was revalued not did not lop and lose value. Right? The Iraqi’s will NOT be exchanging anything. There is this warped sense of perception that Iraqi’s are going to run to the bank to exchange their old 1,000k, 5,000k, 25k and 50k notes for new lower denoms and are going “cash in” and get rich. First of all if you have been paying attention to the articles, even just a little bit, you can see that it is very hard to get US dollars in Iraq as they have been sending them to Iran to counter the embargo illegally. This is depleting the CBI reserves. So they are not about to exchange anyones dinar for US dollars. If citizens  need dollars it is for only two reasons – 1) to travel and must prove they are traveling with airline ticket and passport 2) to pay remittances for import debts under the closed economy. The second reason will simply do away as they will be paying electronically in most cases and in dinars since it will be par with the US dollar and the law will change and no longer mandate to trade only in US dollars [get out of the closed sanctioned economy].[/size]
 
[size=18]So to finish the story the CBI has told us over and over again that the banks will keep some of the larger, older 25k and 50kk notes to use them for inter-banking transactions for those importers who want to be paid in cash thus after the closed economy goes away they can pay in dinar cash. Since the just changed the value these notes are now worth $25,000 US dollars worth of dinar. So paying a debt demanding $25,000 US dollars can be paid taking 25,000 dinars from your ELECRONIC bank account and converting it to $25,000 US dollars and handing it to the debtor, if needed. Right?[/size]
 
[size=18]Okay so more assumptions here: 1) the banks can only hold these old dinar 25k notes for up to 10 years, as they will coincide with the lower denoms and we have been told this many times. This example I just explained above shows what they mean by this; 2) we, as foreign investors, now hold these older larger notes and we will have the[/size][size=18]same rights as the banks[/size][size=18] in that we do hold these notes and they are worth $25,000 USD not the $25 US dollars as in Iraq as we ARE NOT IN IRAQ.. Instead think of us as sitting in a bank as bankers. [/size][size=18]Yes – pretend we are bankers![/size]  
 
[size=18]So do you see how the banks will want desperately to get their grimy little hands on our dinars? Do you see it now? We are like bankers not like Iraqi citizens. This is all what Ex order 13303 did for us as we take the position as [/size][size=18]bank investors[/size][size=18] not[/size][size=18]speculators[/size][size=18] and this is key to understanding this entire process. This is what most people can not conceptualize or understand. Does this sound like a lop to you?[/size]
 
[size=18]So to conclude this saga. Now that you understand this part, the first phase of the revaluation of 1:1 par with USD let me get to the major revaluation part. Later in the process as the rate raised on the international exchanges driven mostly by speculators coming into investing in the dinar for hedge funds, 401k, etc..Let us just say the rate rises to $3.00 IQD dinar to US dollar. If you waiting to go to the bank then you 25k note would be worth $75,000 US dollars just as in the banks in Iraq, if they hold the larger notes, it would also be worth the same.[/size]
 
[size=18]But what if an Iraqi citizen takes a 25k note from under their mattess and goes to the bank too deposit it. What electronic value to they get put in their bank account? In this case they would still get $25 dinars not $75,000 USD or 75 dinars. Remember the deposits over in Iraq are in dinars not US dollars. If they wanted to withdrawal that same old 25k note (remember it is now electronic and no longer a 25k note but rather numbers of just 25 danars) now they would get $25 dinars. But if  they can justify and approved to withdrawal that 25k note in US dollars they would get $75 US dollars since there has been a 3:1 revaluation in dinar value and the international exchanges now show $3.00 USD for every IQD. Who is getting rich in Iraq? You tell me?[/size]
 
[size=18]Okay so many bash me and ask me how the hell can the banks make a 25k note worth $25,000 USD if they only gave the Iraqi people $25 USD for it?[/size]
 
[size=18]The answer is simply they don’t. You can’t create money out of nothing. This would be totally illegal and is the mass of confusion that most just don’t get. So let me clarify. For every 25k note they collected in Iraq the bank  electronically deposited only 25 dinars for it. Right? Are you clear so far?[/size]
 
[size=18]Then the bank in later using this note for inter-bankiing transactions they then must withdrawal 25,000 dinars {1,000 x 25} from the persons account to use the note to give it out as cash to the customer.) In other words the person would have to have deposited 25,000 dinars in their account first for the bank to see their balance and give them back that 25,000 note post RV. But his will not happen since they told us these notes are to be kept around for inter-banking transactions and not to be re-released back to the general public.[/size]
 
[size=18]So the 25k note is just a note. The value is the electronic debit or credit to back up the value of the note. At this point in time look at these large old notes as more like instruments of transfer rather than currency.  The note is just a paper instrument used in the transaction. This is the very concept many of you can not get straight in your heads. Hope I now helped you)[/size]
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6) Any international bank in any country of the world will be dealing with the exchange of the dinars? (obviously i dont believe about 5000+ exchange centers and all the blablabla). I remember that you told us to not get on planes with dinars!
[/size][size=18](unless the law changed you can only move currency international at $10,000 USD worth or value. This is for all currencies. No more funding terrorism. So that would be 10 million dinars (1 million dinars cost about $1,000 USD). Right now domestic travel is not so much an issue but international is a concern. Do not plan to go abroad and exchange. The rate you get in USA banks will be fare. Yes the 5,000+ exchange centers is not real. But I have seen plans to get us out of the banks and into special exchange centers. What happened to this concept? It was only a plan and as usual some intel gurus hear it and don’t follow up in it after they broadcast the plan. People listening to their calls then believe I has been implemented and to my knowledge it is still just a plan. Be careful!) [/size][size=18] [/size]


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[*][size=18]Do you believe that our timeframe for the RV is NOW? could you comment to us your perspective? I miss a lot the chapter of your letters when used to have "SO WHEN CAN WE EXPECT THE RV?" [/size][size=18](First I recommend you read ALL my news letters. It is a continuing saga and will not end until the RV is done. No dates and rates…sorry![/size]
 
[size=18]I can not nor will I re-explain months of news letter information to you. I recommend you go back are read them.. Yes the timeline is right now. It could literally happen anytime but my personal feeling is that they must clean up ISIS from Mosul first and Abadi “officially” declare that ISIS crisis is over. It all about officially declaring it in the Iraqi (not American) news. You see many believe the battle to retake Mosul is in fact already done and this may be the case but this perception does not matter. It is how the Iraqi GOI plans to roll out the victory to us. This is what really matters to give us sign the RV is close at hand. Get it. No speculation just the FACTS.[/size][size=18]
 
 
Alembic86
1/9/2017 07:39:13 pm
I appreciate the opportunity to ask you a question. While I want to ask more than just one, I will do my best to not be too greedy and abide by your terms. 

In your last post, you indicated that they needed to collect approximately 2/3rds of the dinar that is outstanding in cash. Based upon what you have seen and read (and your opinion if you have one), how much of the outstanding cash dinar do you believe they have collected at this time?
 
[/size][size=18](Hello Alembic86! First I want to thank you joining Mnt Goat on this journey then to thank you for following the rules[/size][size=18]. So now to address your question –[/size]
 
[size=18]I am hearing they have not yet reached their goal of 2/3 collection. They first planned they would collect it as they people spent it in the market place as the merchants turned it into the CBI for US dollars to pay for their imports. So the CBI would get these large amounts of dinars, then pay day would come around again and it would all go back into circulation. So they realized this plan could not work unless the RV was very timely, and this is not possible. So they went back to the drawing board and soon began to realize the only way to get out of their mess and off this 3 zero currency was to institute these banking and currency reforms we are  now seeing.[/size]
 
[size=18]This is why they had to go to e-dinar and use electronic deposit of salaries and pensions by the CBI. They has to end this endless cycle of 3 zero notes distributions. This way the dinars are not going back into circulation. Once a critical point is reached in the provinces by getting the systems up and running on debit cards and e-dinar this amount of cash will get to the point they need. Then all they have to do is literally launch the next phase. Remember technically this is all part of the “project to delete the zeros” just not  the phase we are looking for yet…lol…lol.[/size]
 
[size=18]All we can do is read the articles. We know their target, so now we wait to see when they reach it. I really liked your question because this is exactly the kind of indicators we are looking for. Not some banks screens with flashing messages or someone telling us that they have over 5,000 exchange centers and they are manned and ready for us. All just foolish bullshit coming from ignorant people who can’t even figure out what to concentrate on that really makes sense to make a difference in finding the truth or a real timeline. At first I might have admitted their info might have been a good indicator but one must now realize their insanity as they stick to this info as their sole source of intel and yet no RV ever happens over and over again blablabla.)[/size]
[*][size=18]John Milleton[/size]
[size=18]1/9/2017 08:03:56 pm[/size]
 
[size=18]good coverage as usual Mt Goat. However I think once again you should have given more emphasis to the security issue in conjunction to the corruption issue. Right now Iraq is one of the best money laundering places in the world and the CIA loves that as well as the poppy dollars. The collusion/corruption is endemic on this issue. However anyone should realize that security/ISIS will have to be fully dealt with before any revaluation of the Dinar. They have already managed to deprive Dash of most of its funding but until there is no ISIS on Iraq soil I think there will be no revaluation. [/size]
[size=18]What do you think re the above?[/size]
 
[size=18](Hello John, first I want to thank you joining Mnt Goat on this journey then to thank you for following the rules[/size][size=18].[/size]
 
[size=18]I am not really sure just what your question is but I will assume that you are accusing me of not placing enough emphasis on the SECURITY issue as the hold up for the RV. [/size][size=18]​ [/size]
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[size=18]Also that the CIA has their hands in this hold up too since the money laundering helps the US government in covert operations. This applies to the corruption in Iraq as this too is in part some of this money laundering.[/size]
 
[size=18]All I can say is go back are re-read my post over these last couple months. I have talked about the CIA and their dirty hand in this process of creating a democracy in Iraq. Yes I totally agree with your statements. If you really want to understand just how crocked these cards have been that have been dealt out to Iraq please just go out and watch “The Panama Deception” by Barbara Trent and David Kasper. This same deception and lies prevail in the handling of Iraq for justification for the war and the post-war saga. We are only concerned about one issue- the RV. But I assure you this is very large and dark. Nori al-Maliki has been the star of the show and the USA support of his administration is shameful and this is totally the fault of Obama and the lack of being able to handle the CIA. Afterall who governs the USA anyhow? Is it the people thru the Congress, Senate in conjunction with the executive branch or is it the CIA policy? Yes I agree when the CIA can no longer be able to such on the tit of the Iraqi prosperty maybe then some of that milk will be left for the Iraqi people and then us as investors.)  [/size] 
 
[size=18]Elvis[/size][size=18]
1/9/2017 08:05:44 pm
 
1.So is the USA sitting on piles of Dinar to "pay for" the war?
[/size][size=18](So is Elvis still alive? Can I be any clearer to my answer to this question.[/size]
 
[size=18]No, do not believe this! This Kuwaiti story is over blown to get you to buy dinar. That is all it is. There is only an ounce of truth to this story made into a pound of intel for you to naively believe. I have told everyone many times that Clinton did not pay off one red cent from the national debt. All he did was balance the budget and actually realized a surplus by not having debt in that one year’s budget by[/size] [size=18]the money Kuwait paid the US govt for their assistance in the war to force Iraq out of Kuwait. Yes, the American people were used and paid for their military services in Kuwaiti dinar. They had to let the RV go for Kuwait and let it revalue to get the rate up in order to accomplish this goal. So I am sick and tired of using this as a justification for the RV we are waiting for. The two situations are entirely different. You can follow this if you want but I like the FACTS.[/size]
 
[size=18]For the Iraqi dinar the real truth is the USA will broker oil to oil companies. This is a very long explanation as to how this entire process is planned to work but be assured once your dinars, are in the bank, the federal govt will want to pay the banks a premium for them thus they stand to make a ton of money. Next once the feds have them they will be allocated like coupons for oil at a locked in price that was negotiated many years ago. Thus the USA o stands to make billions over the next 20 years.. This they say will pay for the war. Really? I have to wake everyone up to the reality it will take trillions to pay for that war.[/size]
 
[size=18]So the Feds must first sell the credits to the oil companies at a rate greater than what they locked into with Iraq and what they paid the banks for them.[/size]
 
[size=18]Next the oil companies will not buy these credits from the Feds unless the market price of oil enables them to make a tidy profit from the price they paid for them.  Simple economics.[/size]
 
[size=18]So you see there are lots of factors here and it is never so simple as you have been told. This all hinges on the market price of oil going up in the near future. So we know it is going to go up.[/size]
 
[size=18]Also think about this. Maybe this too has been a factor in holding up the RV since Iraq did not want these negotiated credits cashed in when they needed the oil revenues to pay for the war with ISIS. Why would they want sell oil so cheap during this crisis? Just a thought….just another possible factor to consider.) [/size][size=18]

2.If so what happens to the economy when the government exchanges?
[/size][size=18](Who’s economy? What government exchange? Exchange of what. Go back and read the answer to your last question. There will be NO mass government exchange of dinars to pay off the national debt. Get it? My dear child you are listening to the wrong people. Change your intel source.) [/size]
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3.So when the lower demons roll out will the Dinar RI or re instate at its pre war value or launch at a lower rate and climb? [/size] 
[size=18](Kindly go back to the top of this news letter and read what I replied to question #5 for YRMALL. I could not be any clearer in explaining this.)[/size]
 

[size=18]Tom C.[/size][size=18]
1/9/2017 08:08:01 pm
Based on part of a Jan9, 2017 article from below, what are the chances of the HCL law being passed and implemented soon as it appears that the relationship now between the Central Iraqi Govt and Kurdistan is even more strained?...
[/size][size=18](please go back and read my answer to question #3 above from YRMALL. I think it will clarify. The relationship between the GOI and Kurdistan could not get any better. But remember there is still the CIA mending in Iraq affairs and pushing this agenda of friction – the goal is to get a three state Iraq. Nobody in Iraq wants it and so they must overcome this propaganda and instability that the CIA keeps pushing and creating for Iraq hoping Iraq will see it as a cure for all their problems. Go figure – all the USA bases are in Kurdistan and where is all the oil? What will happen to the rest of Iraq if this 3 state scenario should happen? It will NOT be pleasant and the Iraqi people know it. It will only foster more sectarianism, not patriotism but good old Joe Biden believes this is the best direction for Iraq. This is all about to change and Iraq will get their oil and gas law….finally! But maybe not until at least  inauguration day thus the elements holding it back are gone)[/size]
 
[size=18]Ash[/size][size=18]
1/9/2017 10:06:35 pm
Thank you MG always good to hear from you. All that you have is lining up as the Iraqi govt has said, the lower denoms will begin in early 2017 as you an CBI stated. So the question is what can go wrong an what have they missed or lied to everyone about that can continue to delay an put off the RV. I still think there is an inherent dislike for the U S an a real desire to try to bypass the US as crazy as that seems. Yes I know Abadi hates Obama an wants him to have no credit. Something always pops out to continue the delay. Thank you an keep posting. Ash
[/size][size=18](first I want to ask if this is the Ash I think it is? Welcome to the Mnt Goat news! Next I want to add I think your question may be motivated by Frank’s comments from his last intel conference call thus I should not address this. But I will give you a shadow of doubt and try to clarify. But I find I am clarifying someone else’s info. What can go wrong? Well we are seeing it play out already. Stalling with ISIS for one, anther is they must pass these last needed laws. But let’s look more of what is going right than wrong. It is Jan 11th already and they have not yet told us they intend to “postpone” the project to delete the zeros”. In fact just the opposite has happened. They reinforced to us twice already their intent to go ahead this time, still in EARLY 2017. So don’t yet get discouraged. Its still just Jan 11th. Who told you the RV would pop on Jan 1st? To me EARLY 2017 means anytime during the first three months of the new year. So if we are smart and want to know what is holding it back maybe what we should ask is what is moving it forward. Just this week alone many major announcements – 1. Central Bank [/size][size=18]initiate labor-mail system[/size][size=18] to handle sale of dollars; 2. activate the digital economy in Iraq through [/size][size=18]Zain Cash application[/size][size=18] of the new smart phones; 3.Central Bank announces the [/size][size=18]adoption of the IBAN system[/size][size=18];[/size]
 
[size=18]then for ISIS 1. Elite Forces declare: We are in the "heart" of the city of Mosul and 2) “Their days there, particularly in east Mosul, are numbered and they are beginning to realize it,” spokesman Capt. Jeff Davis.[/size]
 
[size=18]then for the needed new laws 1) President Fouad Massoum on "financial budget law to 2017",  has approved the federal budget of the Republic of Iraq for the fiscal year 2017 ″, noting" that it was sent for publication in the Official Gazette; 2) parliament begins it next session already and will be working for voting on 30+ laws sitting on shelf all with 2nd readings already)[/size][size=18] [/size]


[size=18]JT[/size] 
[size=18]1/9/2017 11:11:56 pm[/size]
[size=18]Goat, I'm curious per your CBI contact, are the banks stocked with the lower denoms?[/size][size=18](no, this is a precautionary measure for fear of terrorists penetration)[/size]
 
[size=18]Many of us thought that Dr. Shabbibi would return to handle the MR and launching of the LD's. Is this no longer the case? [/size][size=18](go to question #4 from YRMALL.  I have answered this question in great detail as far as I know the saga of what took place)[/size]
 
[size=18]With us now knowing the Auctions will continue, doesn't this just allow the corruption to continue? [/size][size=18](yes the corruption to some extent will continue but with the e-dinar now in place they are tracking and monitoring this money very closely. Did you notice the auction numbers have gone up since e-dinar was implemented. They are trying to match legitimate import receipts/invoices thru customs and tariffs to the currency auction amounts. With process now in place they are finding who the culprits are. The banks are being audited and the culprits are being dealt with. This is not the only source of loss of dollars from CBI though. There was also falsified international travel going on in an attempt to get US dollars out of the CBI. This too is being handled now electronically and being audited. There are also now limits for this purpose. But the important question is this – does this impact the timing of the RV? From what I am reading and hearing this problem is now under control and no longer a concern of the IMF)[/size]
 
[size=18]Is not their last option to raise the value of the IQD as a stop gap to counter this continued corruption? If so, how much longer can Iraq continue the status quo before widdling away their Reserves even further? Thank you.[/size]
[size=18](Using the RV as stop gap to counter corruption? Really? Who is feeding you this? Let me tell you something and be very clear on this. The RV is not a solution to all of Iraqi problems especially to combat corruption. In fact it is just the opposite and if they do not reform this country prior to the RV it will only foster more corruption and disorder. Don’t you think the IMF and the CBI would have already RV’d if it was the source of solutions to all their problems especially corruption?)[/size]
 
[size=18]Almostthere[/size]
[size=18]1/9/2017 11:36:18 pm[/size]
[size=18]What about the budget. That's what all the gurus were talking about. It was done and we go to the bank on Jan 2. Not hearing anything about the budget and no publishing in the gazette. What gives?[/size]
[size=18](I don’t care what all the other gurus are saying and I asked that you do not bring any questions to me. I refuse to answer this question based on the fact that you are not keeping up with Mnt Goat readings. So go back are re-read my stance on the 2017 budget and stop bringing this same old crap to us. Especially go and read my Jan 11th news letter. New info on budget is fully addressed in this issue.)[/size]
 
[size=18]Jemma[/size]
[size=18]1/10/2017 01:13:19 am[/size]
[size=18]When I exchanged my currency for dinars, the bank told me that they would take them back with pleasure should I not spend them all on my travels ..... Then they told me if the currency were to change then they would not be able to exchange it back. I am based in the UK, how do I overcome this if the dinar becomes lower denominations.[/size]
[size=18](the bank was referring to the policy for anyone and everyone who want to convert currency for traveling spending money in their statement to you. You are in UK and probably used Euro or GBP to convert to IQD? Okay for the second concern. If the lower denoms are launched first of all they are not all being launched at the same time. Secondly the CBI has told us they will remain and coincide with the 3 zero notes for up to 10 years. So when the currency does change over the bank will be jumping at the chance to get your 3 zero dinars since they will get the invite from the US treasury Feds to  by them and to buy them from the banks over in UK at a significant premium since they can go way over market price. I hear they will go as high as $32 per dinar to buy from the banks and maybe more based on the market price of oil at the time. Only now they have not yet been invited to sell them to the US Feds. Just relax it’s all going to be Okay!)  [/size]
 
[size=18]armando soto[/size]
[size=18]1/10/2017 08:51:15 am[/size]
[size=18]Question: When the dinar rate is released how will people such as myself know which rate we should receive for our exchange. Will the rate be in accordance with the amount we are exchanging. Will you provide a brake-down so we'll know what to expect.[/size]
[size=18](hello Armando! Glad you are asking questions since you seem to be very confused. So let me clarify and help you. Again it seems that you are listening to too much “intel guru” info about contract rates and all this other info they are putting out. Always try to understand first the reasoning why someone is telling you something and then the FACTS of it. If it sounds fishy then ignore it.[/size]
 
[size=18]So have you ever gone to the bank to convert your currency of country to any other foreign currency? The process for your dinar will be exactly the same. You will ask for the currency exchange department. Then meet someone who will ask what you want. You will simply tell them you have xx amount of Iraqii dinars to convert to US dollars (or your countries currency). They will then look up the going market rate and tell you. You should then ask them what the “spread” is. (this is the difference in market rate vs what they are going to give you). This is their profit margin. If you don’t like it tell them you don’t like it and are going elsewhere to exchange. If you in the USA then tell them you know all about the oil credits and the fact the US feds will be buying all their dinar at a premium (much higher than then the rate you are getting so you know there is some flexibility) Then kindly ask if they can waive the fee (spread) for you based on this. If they say no then tell them you plan on investing some of it with the bank in their products. This of course is assuming you have enough to make it worth them waiving. I would say there is no set amount to make them do this. But if you have over 10 million after exchange I can almost say they will (remember 1/3 goes to taxes and they know this too). But if you only have 50,000 or 1 million after exchange don’t even bother asking. They might waive their fee and thus give you pure market rate which is usually about 2-3% higher. If not you will then take the rate they give or go shopping too another bank. It is all up to you. But I will tell you all the banks will be getting a meno from the feds on rate for fed purchase of any Iraqi dinar coming to their banks. They will want your dinar REAL bad and will do almost anything to get it. )[/size]
 
 
[size=18]Fox[/size]
[size=18]1/10/2017 09:39:12 am[/size]
[size=18]Thank you, So they said early 2017? How can they get everything you say they need to do done in that time fram? Also you say it won,t just go kaboom and be done, can you give your insight to how it will unroll? All I see is delay, delay, delay.[/size]
[size=18](hello Fox, thanks for joining Mnt Goat news. To answer your question all I have to say is you are one that is fishing for a date? You want it right now since we are now in 2017? Am I right?. So what does EARLY 2017 mean to you anyhow? Do you know there are 12 months in the year. I am told by the CBI that EARLY 2017 means and I quote-  “sometime within the first quarter if and when the security breach is resolved and the needed reform laws are in place”. This is all I could get out of them and I have already stated this for you. So what more do you want from me?[/size]
 
[size=18]Please don’t focus on a date and instead look at the progress and what the CBI is telling us and the timeframe will just pop out at you. To back up your statements that I have made in the past all I can say is to go back and re-read my news letters. I clearly explain why I feel the way I do and give full justification for it. I am not about to repeat all this again now. Sorry! But very good question.)[/size][size=18] [/size]


[size=18]"O"
1/10/2017 11:33:00 am

Good Morning Mnt. Goat, thank you for answering our questions. I hope you know how much we really appreciate you for taking your time in helping us. My questions are as following…


When the Dinar revalues, from the best of your knowledge, what is the revalue amount for us (USA) when it first comes out since you stated it may be some time before it revalues at the higher amount? I purchased a note for exchanging even if it comes out at $1.00
[/size][size=18](please go and read first of all how the process of RV will and has to work to be successful. See answer to question #5 from YRMALL.[/size]
 
[size=18]It will be have an initial new value about 1:1 with USD but this is not the RV and so don’t be fooled. It will not take long for the value of the IQD to rise if the investment situation is set up prior and they have all the appropriate laws in place to attract investmentors.[/size]
 
[size=18]Many actually believe all they have to do is throw out a high enough rate to the exchanges and everyone will flock in and all is well…happy ending for Iraq. This could not be the farthest from the truth since without the needed laws (the laws asked for by investors in these investment seminars over the years with Iraq) they currency would flop. Anyhow you can’t just throw out such a high rate as speculators would buy up large chunks, drive it up a bit, then unload, thus crashing the currency. Those that say they can never come out low know very little about how speculators operate. Instead Iraq needs to come out low and let the market drive it based on the investors willing to come into Iraq. So what factors drive the rate of any currency anyhow?[/size]
 
[size=18]This is in itself the point of contention and the ignorance with many of the intel gurus. They are having these conference calls and influencing all of you without a real knowledge of finance or the currency markets. They tell you “if they come  out so low investors will flock and buy it up at such a low rate Iraq will be giving away their currency”. Since they were once $3.22 the currency would crash. Really? Let me tell you all something.  [/size]
 
[size=18]I will not brag to be an expert either but I do not fly around giving you this crazy advice without first learning what I am talking about. Why would I?  I am simply trying to help you understand and I can see these others are just not helping you. Instead they are confusing you even more. This I can see in some of these questions today.[/size]
 
[size=18]The rate MUST come out low and as the investors come into Iraq they are the ones that will drive the rate up as more and move decide to invest in assets in Iraq. Get it. Watch the investors to see the rate climb.[/size]
 
[size=18]The value of the oil and other minerals is a very small part in the overall equation to determine currency values. It is largely on the ability to create GDP for the country and be highly successful at production. To create more assets and a better standard of living for the citizens. Get it? So all this crap about how they must go back to $3.22 initial rate based on all the oil they have is bogus and discerning to me overall. It again is all based on Kuwaiti RV thinking and dinar pumping. Good luck “O” with your investment.  [/size]
 
[size=18]Remember NO Rumors, No Hype, just the FACTS. )[/size][size=18]

From your knowledge, what is the highest amount it may revalue to and how long will that take? [/size][size=18](see above)[/size]
 
[size=18]Their words not mine…..No Rumors, No Hype, Just the FACTS![/size]
 
[size=18]Thanks everyone for all the fine questions. I hope I was able to bring some clarity to your concerns. Let’s do this again sometime.[/size]
 
[size=18]Auf Wiedersehen[/size]
[size=18]Much love to ya all,[/size]
[size=18]Mnt Goat[/size][size=18] [/size]

WSOMN Tuesday Drama 1/10/17

BIT OF INFO #1: The TRN and USN needed to be registered on Forex independently. The second (USN) is currently underway. When it's finished, the release can take place. i am hearing this may be tomorrow. It is my opinion that the TRN and USN need to be registered with Forex independently. It appears second (USN) may be underway. When it's finished, the release may take place. I'm also hearing this may happen sometime tomorrow as well.

BIT OF INFO #2: Stock analyst says he still believes Wednesday or Thursday. Says WF told him bis ping complete and successful. Just waiting

BIT OF INFO #3: Can't hold this up as it is done and the thing we are waiting on is the final steps to line up all the countries to the asset back Gold Standard. A contact said Jabbari is ecstatic and the contact said yesterday this is imminent and for him to be ready to place in the codes that are needed to start the GCR.

BIT OF INFO #4: There are hints that the Zim movement is processing now and through the week. Many now have packages processing and NDA's signed therefore details will be impossible to get from here on out. Individual Zim owners should not be concerned. I have been told we will be happy with the rate.

BIT OF INFO #5: Rates are not being discussed in detail for any currency just yet so don't get overly concerned.

BIT OF INFO #6: I have been informed that a second package has been sent out for delivery. The package contains the telephone numbers of dinar site leaders. When the timing to release the numbers is authorized those site owners will receive both the numbers and authorization to release on their sites and to anyone that follows which I assume allows site owners to use twitter to notify.

In all likelihood we will see activity sooner rather than later. Perhaps before the Inauguration.

Have a nice evening. It may not be tomorrow or the next but we are closer than a Louisiana frog's hair tonight IMO.

2011 in Review (12/30/2011)

What a year, huh? We started it off thinking RV any day now and we end it the same way. There has been some progress in Iraq, though. The biggest of course being the withdrawal of US troops which was completed Dec. 15, prompting the declaration that Iraq is now a sovereign country. And in the world of dinarians:

In January the criminal background of Dan "Checkmate" Atkinson was revealed
In April Fifth Third Bank announced that they will stop selling dinar, stating that they sell currency as a service to their customers traveling abroad, not as an investment vehicle
In May Ali at Dinar Trade announced that he was suspending sales in the US
In May Phoenix came out of "retirement" and launched his Blogtalk Radio broadcast where he constantly assures his listeners of the impending revaluation of the Iraqi dinar when he's not discussing solar flares, earthquakes, astrology, the Mayan calendar, EMP, comets ... etc.
In May "Prophet" George Robinson gave a rate and date prediction that flopped
In May "Prophet" Kim Clement said something would happen suddenly with the dinareee - no rate or date was given and no rate or date change has yet occurred.
In May SteveI from People's Dinar told his followers that he owns a billion dinar and said the RV would happen by the end of May with a rate of over $3
In July the BH Group's offices were raided by authorities a week after the guru summit in Toledo, ending their dinar sales
In July Roger Dorman announced that he was accepting a position with the fine folks at The Treasury Vault, but only after a few curious dinarians discovered that its owner is Angela Dorman, his wife.
In September Dinar Douchebags was launched, striking fear into the hearts of douchebag dinar gurus and pumpers everywhere
In September Adam Montana predicted an RV by Thanksgiving - another flop
In October it was revealed that Tony "Breitling" Elder had Treasury Vault owner Angela Dorman (alongside her "Dinar Daddy" husband Roger) listed as a friend on Facebook, had compiled a report on the dinar with Roger Dorman, and is owner of Select Play Media, the company name that comes up on PayPal when you order the ISX Report that Tony and Roger are promoting
In November David at revalue.us resigned to start his own dinar sales business
In December Yukon from the IQD Team announced his intention to launch a MLM business with a juice product, causing yet another dinar site split

I'd like to take a few minutes to thank my readers for their support over the past few months. This wasn't an easy task, trying to go up against well established gurus with hundreds or thousands of followers who make people think that they're going to be rich any day now. I'm not going to draw thousands of followers by telling people that they're probably not going to get rich, or that the most they'll get is probably 2 or 3 times their initial investment, and that there's a good chance that they'll actually lose money. I can't post links to my site on dinar forums of course. Many of them have been mentioned in my posts, and others consider what I do "bashing". You'll never see any of my material posted at Dinar Daddy, despite the fact that the owner Roger Dorman regularly posts what he admits to knowing are blatant lies. I'm not posted at Dinar Guru because I'm not a guru. I don't advertise so I don't have banners anywhere. People find my site through Google searches, trying to find the facts on this investment, and trying to find out who the hell these douchebag gurus and pumpers are, and then they post links to this blog either on their blogs, on Facebook, in emails, or on another forum before some mod usually deletes them. This site has increased in popularity primarily because of word of mouth advertising. So it's you, my readers, who get the word out. I truly appreciate that.

I remember the first few weeks I was only getting a few hits a day, and most of them were either me checking my posts or some faceless web crawler looking for information to index. It seemed like nobody was interested. I would type "dinar douchebags" in Google and nothing came up, so obviously Google wasn't helping. But I just kept on posting. It was like Field of Dreams ... "If you build it they will come". Finally Google started cooperating, people started visiting, and the next thing I knew gurus were protesting and scrambling to cover their backsides.

The #1 post on this blog is by far "The Pumpers", where I list the vilest offenders and any information I have on who they are and what they do. It was one of my first posts, and it has received over 3 times as much traffic as any other post. People want to know who these guys are. #2 is the first Douchie award for Breitling, and #3 is "Breitling Busted!!!". Yes, Breitling has been very good for my blog. So many out there consider Mr. B one of the good guys. I think a lot of people are shocked to find out how much wrong information he puts out and how shady his business practices are. #4 is "Dinar researchers/Analysts". A lot of people out there are looking for quality information because they've figured out that they're not getting it from the gurus. #5 is "The Montana Trail (Part 2)" where I share my research on Adam Montana. I see many people now waking up to the fact that Adam Montana is not the brilliant dinar expert that many thought he was. His admitted background was as a corporate headhunter, not an investment or currency professional. The man apparently can't even do basic math.

It's been a challenge all right, but the blog is gaining ground on the gurus. People email me all the time wanting to know what I know about this guy or that article, or when we're going to see a class action lawsuit. Some ask me if there are any honest people to listen to. Some of course tell me that I'm a douche and that the people I'm attacking are good people. Whatever. Some want to know who died and made me the judge of the gurus or the savior of the dinar world. Nobody. I just write what I think based on my experience and considerable research. If people don't like what I write they don't have to read it. But obviously many do read, and quite a few have thanked me for starting this blog to address the voluminous BS that has been spread throughout Dinarland.

As we head into a new year I expect more of the same. I'll keep awarding Douchies and keep posting from time to time, although I don't anticipate being as active as I have been the last few months. Most of the information that people are looking for has already been posted. Hopefully we'll have an arrest or two to announce, and maybe in increase or two in the IQD.

What will 2012 bring? Well I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the 1170 rate will remain unchanged until at least April. I do anticipate that there will be a change in 2012, but whether it's a straight up RV of the existing currency or a redenomination to a new currency I won't speculate. I think it's likely that forces opposing democracy in the region will test the Iraqi military and government now that US forces are gone. The escalation in violence will probably continue for awhile. Once that passes I think that everybody will start to feel better about the prospects of a free and prosperous Iraq. As for the prosperity of dinarians, we can only hope.

http://dinardouchebags.blogspot.com/2011/12/2011-in-review.html

Mountain Goat 12/28/16

Hi Everyone,
 
I bring you much news today. I know I just wrote a news letter a couple days ago. But the news is literally pouring in from Iraq and moving so fast now. It is as if they are on a mission to meet a deadline of early January of something like that.

It is all exactly what we want and should expect at this time and shows us that Iraq definitely is about to move forward with their “economic explosion” (Abadi’s words not mine) in EARLY 2017. We know they can not do this without some real value placed on their currency. In other words they must delete the zeros and revalue it.   
 
Lots in the news all of a sudden about the Kuwait and Iraq relationship. Why now? Why all this brotherly love between these two countries?


Well we know by the press statement a few days ago that the only remaining item for Iraq, to get fully out of the 2003 sanctions, was to pay the war reparations owed to Kuwait. The amount is really insignificant to Kuwait in large scheme of things. I will tell you why.
 
All this recent news on this topic was very revealing since it not only told us what remained to everyone that also confirmed a couple items: 1) Iraq was not fully out of sanctions in June 2013 (maybe this is why the RV has been held up too) and 2) just how close we are to the RV.
 
This is something that Mnt Goat has said over and over again and no one seemed to listen to me or believe me. Go back are re-read my news letters ([url=http://www.dinarrecaps.com/our-blog/category/mnt goat]CLICK HERE[/url] for the Mnt Goat Category at Recaps.) It’s all there. In fact many argued and bashed Mnt Goat on this topic of still being in sanctions and that no RV could happen then. In June of 2013 everyone got excited and hyped when announcement of some of the Chapter VII UN charter sanctions were lifted. At that time Mnt Goat said to hold on and wait a second. But all the intel “gurus” when off and didn’t bother to research if any sanctions still remained. 
 
For me it was obvious since we just heard earlier from the CBI that the currency reform would be held off “indefinitely”. Didn’t this strike anyone as weird? Why would they hold off on currency reform if they are a sovereign country and free to do as they wish with their currency?
 
Oh well….this is all now in the past and so let’s just absorb this latest news and digest it.
 
Why is all this about Iraq and Kuwait relationship important? Because there will be no RV while Iraq is still in sanctions. To get out of sanctions “fully” (their final obstacle) they must kiss and make up with Kuwait  – it is that simple..lol…lol… Get it?
 
Oh- but the saga does not end here. You also should know that in past articles relationships with Iraq and Kuwait have been presented as “very good” and Kuwait is not concerned about the money Iraq owes them since instead they know in the long term will make so much more money in trade deals with Iraq. They know if they can assist Iraq in any way to regain their sovereignty then Iraq will progress onto the “international” stage that much sooner.
 
This is also important because if you connect the pieces- #1 the news media recently picked up and reported on the article about these reparations payments being the ONLY remaining item between Iraq getting out of or staying in sanctions; then #2 we see literally a ton of new articles on Kuwait and Iraq making trade deals, #3 we know for a FACT if Kuwait does not want to settle this owed debt with Iraq because they stand to make a ton more in trade with Iraq rather than the hassle of waiting for the reparation payments (they told us this in a past article. This is not my opinion!).
 
Folks I can not say just how amazing this news was in the last couple days on this topic with Kuwait. It was music to my ears when my hubby read these articles to me. We literally danced around the room in joy. Wow !
 
So these article sparked off a series of yet more articles on this topic. So yesterday they announced the preparatory meeting for the sixth session of the meetings with Kuwait Joint Ministerial Higher Committee is scheduled for today. What did they talk about? See article below about the meeting. So we know they held the meeting and it was successful.
 
Also we read articles about the trade relationship of Iraq with other neighboring countries namely Turkey, and China but mostly all about the Iranian relationship and how it has progresses since Saddam Hussien is gone.
 
Can it get any better?…..Read this!
 
Turkey ranked first in trade with Iraq , which accounts for 22 percent of the Iraqi market , followed by Iran with 13 percent and China with 12 percent, and Iran acquires a 10 to 15 percent of the Iraqi market. 

It is expected to see trade relations between the two countries ,  where economists activists say government organizations involved in the two countries are planning to deliver the volume of trade exchange between Iran and Iraq to $ 20 billion per year within 3 to 4 coming years. 
 
So I wanted to impress everyone that my premonition (if you want to call it that) is that the IMF and Iraq seem to be cleaning up lose ends prior to pulling the trigger once again in EARLY 2017 to begin the project once again. They are just literally days away from Jan 2017. We know that this project is important because it is this project (and nothing else anyone tells you) that in FACT will lead us to the ultimate treasures that await us currency holders….the significant increase in the value of the Iraqi dinar.
 
I have been spot in all along and listened to my CBI contact years ago who told me to watch and pay attention mostly to what the CBI does. The rest is also needed, such as the HCL legislation, the needed security, the Federation Council, seated ministers, and the other long awaited laws.
 
But these are just pre-conditions that allow the CBI to move forward. So you can chase all this nonsense about Nesara and the “New Republic” and madam Woo in China is doing. 
 
But I am here always to tell you what really matters most is what the CBI says and then acts upon from their announcements. Nothing will move ahead without the CBI.
 
Articles Begin
 
Reuters: Iraqi PM says three months needed to eliminate Islamic State
 
Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said on Tuesday it would take three months to eliminate Islamic State, as U.S.-backed forces battle to dislodge the militants from their city stronghold of Mosul. 
 
Abadi previously said the city would be retaken by the end of this year but commanders blame the slower pace on the need to protect civilians who have mostly stayed in their homes rather than fleeing as was expected.
 
"Conditions indicate that Iraq needs three months to eliminate Daesh (Islamic State)," state TV quoted Abadi as saying.  
 
More than two months into the operation, elite Iraqi soldiers have retaken a quarter of Mosul, but entered a planned "operational refit" this month. (so how can they be telling us now they need 3 more months if the operations were already completes, as some of these so called idiotic intel gurus have been telling you. Here is the proof the operations are not over and will take another 3 more months. Does the project to delete the zeros also get postponed? Yes- I firmly believe it will be move out into mid 2017. This is only my assessment. Sorry for the bad news! But the reality is we wait and see what actually happens. Remember these are their words not mine….)
 
No Hype, No Rumors just the FACTS!
 
A U.S. battlefield commander told Reuters on Monday Iraqi forces would resume their offensive in the coming days, in a new phase of the operation that will see American troops deployed closer to the front line inside the city.

Mosul, the largest city held by Islamic State anywhere across the once-vast territory it controlled in Iraq and neighboring Syria, has been held by the group since its fighters drove the U.S.-trained army out in June 2014.
 
Its fall would probably end Islamic State's ambition to rule over millions of people in a self-styled caliphate, but the fighters could still mount a more traditional insurgency in Iraq, and plot or inspire attacks on the West.


Call to Action foreign exchange law
 
BAGHDAD / Mustafa al-Hashemi
He called economic academic Dr. Essam Mahouelle to the restoration of the foreign exchange law as a substitute for auction currency and increased at the same time economic tasks on the bank 
Central. 
 
Attracting investment and between Mahouelle in an interview for the "morning" the need to cancel the auction sale of the dollar "single window" as opening the door to leave Iraqi funds abroad without providing a great service to the productive sectors of the economy Ktfiel or attract investments that achieve  development. 
 
The central bank has been taken years ago, and within a summary of the bank 's policy tools, work tools "efficient and effective" on the cash market (cash basis), including the organization of currency auctions and foreign which buys or sells Central dollar or to the market in the light of the objectives  of the political. Budget support and pointed out that the stock of the dollar , which the central bank comes from the sale of oil to support the balance sheet at the Ministry of Finance may be affected if it lost what remained of the Iraqi economy is going this  pace. 
 
He pointed to the need for economic control over the activation of imports, along with checks to be imported with the real prices of prices of materials in order to maintain public money wastage. 
 
The balance of payments and stressed that the central bank is responsible for the moderation of the national balance of payments and the safety of dollar reserves inventory, pointing to the need to download the traders responsible for authentication and not  banks. 
 
Formation of a committee and the importance of forming a committee of the central bank 's financial, trade and industry and interior ministries for the purpose of monitoring the quality of goods to be imported and their prices  and the statement of the need to import them or not in order to preserve cash and reduce wasted material  luxury. 
 
Customs ' responsibility and prior to the conversion process Mahouelle stressed the need for the merchant to prove the entry of goods imported into Iraqi territory from government outlets, noting that this process is not the responsibility of the bank to rely on, but the responsibility  of the customs. (now just think about this..would they not need this law (process) if they were getting rid of the currency auctions and paying debts with their own currency or currency of other nations besides the US dollar, as when in sanctions. This article makes total sense to me)
 
Iraq Oil Minister meets with ExxonMobil Boss
 
By John Lee.
Iraqi oil minister Jabar Ali al-Luaibi [Allibi] met with ExxonMobil senior executive Brad Corson, to discuss development of the Iraqi oil industry.

Mr. Allibi said that the ministry of oil is aiming to develop relations with Exxon Mobilto develop the oil and gas sector in Iraq.
 
Mr. Corson said that his company is aiming to open new horizons of work with the ministry of oil to develop the work and go forward to achieve the desired goals.
 
Exxon’s CEO, Rex Tillerson, is to join the incoming Trump administration as Secretary of State. (this is very good news for Iraq)
 
 
Preparatory meeting of the Iraqi Committee of the Kuwaiti and new information on the missing
 
Was launched in the capital Baghdad on Tuesday , the preparatory meeting for the sixth session of the meetings of the Kuwaiti - Iraqi Joint Ministerial Higher Committee scheduled on Wednesday.
 
And headed the Iraqi side at the meeting , and Foreign Ministry Undersecretary Omar Barzanji while headed the Kuwaiti side by Deputy Foreign Minister Khaled Suleiman neighbor Allah , who arrived in Baghdad Day - with the participation of a number of officials of both countries , including Kuwait 's foreign minister assistant of the Arab homeland Aziz Daihani assistant Kuwaiti Foreign Minister for Consular Affairs Sami Abdul dear. 

He Alborznge at the beginning of the meeting thanked Iraq for the support of Kuwait in the humanitarian sphere and in extinguishing oil wells file as well as its agreement to postpone the fulfillment amount of compensation from Iraq , stressing that the Iraqi people will not forget to stop him in these circumstances. " 

He pointed Alborznge that" the army Iraq is now making significant gains in the war against terrorism and freeing the city of Mosul is near as liberated by the cities of Anbar, Tikrit. " 

Turn Undersecretary of Foreign Affairs of Kuwait, the Ministry said that the meetings of the Higher ministerial Committee between the two countries have great interest in Kuwait and the highest levels , revealing that he received instructions from the Emir of Kuwait Sheikh Sabah Al - Ahmad Al - Jaber Al - Sabah to pursue its work and achieve concrete steps that support the relations between the two countries. ​


He said Al - Jarallah said Kuwait relied heavily on the work of this committee they constitute a solid foundation to build a lofty relations quality between the two countries, especially when it address all the details that concern the two countries. 

He that Kuwait is proud of its support for Iraq and proud of it , saying , "when we provide the support you but we offer to Kuwait because the stability of Iraq is the stability of Kuwait and prosperity to flourish , and because of our relationship fateful and therefore we Covenant staying our support to our fellow Iraqis." 

The Deputy Foreign Minister of Kuwait received new information from the Iraqi side on missing Kuwaitis file , expressing confidence that Baghdad pay "great attention to the resolution of this humanitarian issue is painful." 

The neighbor said he heard from God and Undersecretary of State said there was "new witnesses and new accounts related to the file of missing Kuwaitis." 

Jarallah did not disclose the nature of that information , however , he stressed that this matter "gives reason for hope in the hearts of Kuwaitis and represents a light at the end of the tunnel." 

"We are counting on the Iraqi side and invite him to address this humanitarian issue purely and suffered bitterly Kuwaiti citizen." 

Kuwaiti diplomat : "I am confident and said that you realize the size of this suffering , therefore, hope we all folding this page and this painful file". 
He stressed that the two countries succeeded in closing many 
of the outstanding issues , leaving only a few of them expressing confidence in the efforts of the Iraqi side in the follow - up to what is left and accomplished.
 
Prime Minister Dr. Haider al-Abadi receives First Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister of Kuwait
 
Cannon 2016
 
Mr. Prime Minister , Dr. Haider al - Abadi met in his office on Wednesday , First Deputy Prime Minister and Foreign Minister of Kuwait Sheikh Sabah Al- Khaled Al - Hamad Al- Sabah and his accompanying delegation. 

During the meeting , they discussed enhancing bilateral cooperation between the two brotherly countries in all fields and efforts to fight terrorism and his ideas as well as the battle to liberate Mosul and developments in the region. 

He said Sheikh Sabah Al- Khaled Al - Sabah his country 's full support for Iraq in its war against terrorism and praised the role of Dr. Abadi in the leadership of Iraq to fight terrorism and strengthen bilateral relations , stressing the blessing of His Highness the Emir of Kuwait to the victories achieved by the Iraqi forces in Mosul and other areas. 

He noted that Kuwait is pushing for rallying the international effort to support Iraq because we believe that all countries exposed to the risk of terrorism , it is our duty to stand with Iraq to its important role in the region and the fight against terrorism.
 
(so why all this brotherly LOVE all of a sudden? We know why…don’t we. I hope you understood what this means)
 
Articles End
 
Their words not mine…..No Rumors, No Hype, Just the FACTS!
 
Auf Wiedersehen
Much love to ya all,
Mnt Goat

12/24/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

Guru DebTarHeelGirl:  99% of seasoned in the know intel studiers and gathers are all saying its in process now due to documented evidence - THIS RV is about to manifest - its on a roll now in processing that can't be stopped - you will see this shortly... just look over your shoulder and you can hear it coming.... we are there folks we are there...


Guru Jonnywg:   The algorithms are released and all 155 currencies will be released at the same time. The process is irreversible and it will run its course.12-24-2011  Guru Mailman   OUTSIDE INTERESTS INCLUDING COMPANIES, COUNTRIES AND THE IMF AND UN ARE PROBABLY AT THE CAMELS BACK BREAKING POINT RIGHT NOW...MARK MY WORDS....UN INTERVENTION IS IN IRAQS VERY NEAR FUTURE, REAL CLOSE...THEY CAN KISS CHAP 7 GOODBYE FOR QUITE A WHILE...DONT BE SURPRISED IF MORE SANCTIONS ARE BROUGHT BACK...AS LONG AS MALIKI IS THERE...THEY REMAIN A THREAT...THIS WILL PLAY OUT, THE RV IS NOT A QUESTION, IT WILL HAPPEN.

i have no more info or explanations. will drop in to see whats happening but will spend the day with twin A .. lol on his birthday.   Who has the best intel on the planet...he sees the banks screens...folks if you knew what I knew...you would be jumping up and down...it is programmed for release! The approvals have been given...it is a complex computer algorithm that sets this world wide financial rest into motion.

remember the turkeys that have the litle button on it - when it's done it pops up - the bank's little button has not popped yet so they can't serve the meal they do best ... deal with money. so don't open the oven yet

Well like you, I expected more last night. We verified the codes were entered and released and we just have to wait until the logarithm runs its course. UST was sent home for Christmas. What we expect and the timing programed may be 2 dufferent things, no one knows but it is released.  I have nothing more to add as the job is done. We will watch the bank screens today.

????  Are you hearing banks being open on the scheduled holiday Sat/Mon to cash in folks?

yes


Guru BWM:  I guess considering the welcome and departure I had earlier you need to understand my position on all the information we share... this is not a position that I asked for or generally always comfortable with...  my geniune purpose has been to share what I thought was appropriate, as confirmed as possible and legitimate to be seen in a public chatroom...

I have continuously worked in "windows" without specific dates in order to minimize "hype"...I truly hope you understand the purpose of my sharing has been to positively help those that cannot or do not have the time to gather information useful to this investment...

with that said understand that I do not always feel comfortable with the information shared but hope that the constant calls for discernment amongst each of you is enough to give you hope and education to understand what we are saying with each statement we make...  as you've prolly seen I am passionate about my feelings towards my friends and "protecting the nest"... always understand and please don't misinterpret my sometimes combative nature for anything more than trying to stand up for my beliefs...  and I would like to take this opportunity to say THANK you to the many that have prayed and spoken thoughts of encouragement to myself and my family during this time...

I certainly hope that whatever the circumstances you are going thru you know and believe that not only God is looking after you during this time but we are here in support in every way we can... we truly wish you a MERRY CHRISTmas... for all the trials and tribulations that you have born this year it pales in comparison to that which has gone before us...

ok let's go with this one statement... I was told "before" Christmas earlier this week... that has not changed from the source I most believed altho I am hearing things later today that suggest otherwise... this is my point, I choose to look at the first opportunities until that time cannot happen any longer... then I will try to determine WHY it didn't happen and WHAT makes the other possibilities any more valid than the previous "guess"

???  Oh good grief - what does that mean? Tomorrow is still good???

this is why I get frustrated... what part of BEFORE Christmas... do you not get? what is today, when is Christmas, how much time does that give us... think

???  BWM, I believe in you and everything you tell us, but is there a time in the "Future" that Iraq can not go past????? And if they do will some 3-letter agency step in and take over to RV their currency???? thanks so much!!!

I would like to believe that there is a drop dead date... but I sure as heck wouldn't say it out loud even if I knew it... the pressure would be too much for some to handle

???  bwm is there any truth to 12 out of 144 rv's are loaded and the other continue to cycle through the process? Just asking?

 If I thought I could answer that question once tonight... I'd do it... but that's a lost cause so I will respectfully ignore that...   it means I have been asked that question too many times and no one seems to understand the answer I give... therefore I shan't say it again...

again, there's not much to say... we are waiting to see the rates released and at this point we should just be enjoying each other's company..   the one's who should have the least to say are busting a gut to do calls and such to tell you everyone is wrong but nothing about what they actually know... sounds like sour grapes to me...how do I know? Heck they keep calling asking what's going on..

you know.. it seems that some of you cannot fathom that at some point you have gotten more info than you should... AND then some continue to push points that you refuse to accept no matter the explanation given... so for those that understand what we have tried to tell you thanks for your understanding.... til later I'll just wish everyone a MERRY CHRISTMAS...


Guru Cap1:  I want to BET all NAY SAYERS 1000 Dinar that we will see the RV posted tomorrow at 5pm or before.  

I commend you, all of you, on your ability to hang in there these last few months. I know it's been hard, financially, emotionally, mentally, and physically. These chairs are tough to sit in 14 - 16 hrs a day(lol). I woke up last night about once every hour and I prayed for the RV and for all of us to be wise in handling our blessing. It's no longer if this will take place, but at what hour we shall see it. So rest easy in that. Be comforted that the ride is over.


Guru PapaJack1952:  Family we have crossed the finish line it is over we are Just waiting for them to Release it.  my guess is we may have a nice Christmas present for us under our tree for us this is JMO.   HMMMM Dinar sites closed, banks closed, everybody closed, sounds like the perfect storm for an RV to me. MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYBODY!!!!!!!.


Guru Bulldog75:  THE ISX, IRAQ STOCK EXCHANGE IS CLOSED TIL JAN. 3 SO THE MID EAST BIG BOY PLAYERS WILL NOT FURTHER MANIPULATE THEIR EXCHANGE SYSTEM OF THE PENDING RATE POST. THE FORTHCOMING RATES OF IQD AND DONG WILL DETERMINE OUR CASH IN STRATEGY. WE/OOM/OKIE/BULLDOG WILL ADVISE YOU ON THE BEST STRATEGY. THE IQD IS 'THE CATALYST' FOR THE OTHER COUNTRIES TO DOMINO. 'MAN PROJECTS; GOD DECIDES.' STAY TUNED. WE INTEND TO ROCK AROUND THE CHRISTMAS TREE. MY OVEN IS HOT AT 440 USA.


Guru OkieOilman:  ALL INTEL HAD POINTED THAT YESTERDAY WAS THE 'BEST' DAY THOUGH THE FORTHCOMING DAYS PRIOR TO JAN1 ARE MORE THAN EXCELLENT FOR THIS TO DOMINO. OUR INFORMATION SHOWS THIS CAN STILL DOMINO ANY MINUTE. WE SIMPLY WAIT AND PRAY.

THERE ARE MANY, MANY DETAILS THAT ALL OF YOU ARE ALREADY AWARE OF. NUFF SAID. I DO WISH ALL OF YOU A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR. WE WILL KEEP YOU INFORMED AS BEST WE CAN ACCORDING TO OUR SOURCES.


Guru DinarWishes:   Well, it is looking like things are running its course and all things are moving in our favor for a great Chistmas!!! Things are at a point of no return and can't be stopped by anything other than a total electrical outage world wide... Let me exsplain the Algorithm.. It's a timed sequence of events... We are not exactly sure how long it will take to have it all come out but it will all come out at the same time. Nothing new at the banks as of yet and wont be till the algorithm is complete... I will say this "It Can't be stopped"!!!

Let me exsplain it like this..... We know that the UN voted and passed to reactivate sanctions on Iraq yesterday if everything they needed to do was not complete. Well, no sanctions were placed back on them.... So, all is well and quit worrying about the timing.... even if it takes us to Sunday or Monday nobody could do anything about it anyway.... Enjoy your Holiday and Relax....


Guru Med:  THEY ARE TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHY INFLATION WAS HIGH
NOW WHO DO YOU BELIEVE?  FIRST IT WAS IN THE EARLY FALL. THAT PRICES WERE HIGH IN IRAQ.  THEN LAST MONTH IT WAS BECAUSE PRICES WERE HIGHER IN KURDISTAN.  NOW EXCUSE #3 THAT INFLATION HAD INCREASED BECAUSE THEY HAD PUMPED ALLOT OF MONEY INTO THE ECONOMY THROUGH LOANS

SO WHAT IS IT, DOOR #1, DOOR #2 OR DOOR #3

I CAN SEE HOW THE LAST IS THE ISSUE.  SEE YOU PUMP A BUNCH OF WORTHLESS CURRENCY INTO THE ECONOMY AND AS WE ALSO KNOW THEY SAID THE REASON FOR THE DINAR EXCHANGE RATE DROPPING WAS NOT CUZ OF LOANS BUT BECAUSE NOONE WANTED TO USE IT.  THEY WERE USING FOREIGN CURRENCIES OVER THE DINAR WHICH HAD AN INTERNATIONAL VALUE.  WE ALL KNOW THIS HAS BEEN A PROBLEM IN IRAQ SINCE THE U.S. GOT THERE REMEMBER ALL TRADE GOODS THAT COME INTO IRAQ EXCEPT FOR THE COUPLE MIDDLE EAST COUNTRIES LIKE SYRIA AND IRAN WHO ACCEPT THE DINAR ALL IMPORTS INTO IRAQ HAVE TO BE PURCHASED BY THE GOVT, CUZ THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO HOLD A TRADEABLE CURRENCY THE USD FROM OIL REVENUES AND UNTIL THEY GO WITH AN INTERNATIONAL CURRENCY NOONE CAN IMPORT OR THE MAJORITY CANT SINCE THEY ONLY HAVE DINAR TO PAY FOR IMPORTS.  AND THAT ALSO MEANS NO FREE MARKET ECONOMY UNTIL IT IS TRADEABLE. AND THE IMF WANTS IRAQ INTO THE FREE MARKET OUR ONLY ISSUE NOW

THEY EVEN IMPORT THE DRINKING WATER.  THAT IS HOW LITTLE HAS BEEN DONE SINCE MALIKI CAME INTO POWER. ALL THESE YRS LATER THE SAME 3 ISSUES EXIST.  NO WATER, NO POWER, NO JOBS AND NONE OF THESE HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.  IN OCT OF 09 IRAQ WAS PRIMED.  THEY HAD ALL THESE COUNTRIES WANTING TO COME INTO IRAQ.  THINGS WERE PRETTY PEACEFUL.  IT REALLY LOOKED LIKE IRAQ HAD TURNED THE CORNER.  THEN SHABIBI SCREWED THINGS UP BAD.

HE BALKED ON THE RV.  A COUNTRY THAT HAS RELIEVED THE PRESSURE OF POVERTY AND UNEMPLOYMENT.  IT IS REALLY HARD TO GET THEM TO WANT THE GOVT REMOVED THROUGH VIOLENCE.  NOW IT ISNT.  THE ISSUE HEREIS NOT WHAT IS GOOD FOR IRAQ, BUT WHAT IS GOOD FOR THE DAWA PARTY AND THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE. AND THEM KEEPING POWER MEANS MORE TO THEM EVEN WITH A CORRUPT LEADER
THAN WHAT IS THE BEST FOR THE PEOPLE OF IRAQ

NOW I THINK EVEN ALLAWI SAID THAT IF THEY WOULD AGREE TO REMOVE MALIKI THAT THE NA WOULD GET THE RIGHT TO NOMINATE THE NEW PM AGAIN SINCE THEY STILL WOULD HOLD THE LARGEST BLOC.  SO IT JUST ISNT ABOUT GETTING POWER BY THE LIST BUT GETTING RID OF MALIKI.  IS IT NOT IRONIC HOW MALIKI WAS PORTRAYED AS A WANNABE HITLER AND THOSE WERE IRAQI MEDIA.  THOUGH I THINK IT IS POSTED IN DENMARK MANY OF THE INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO WATCHDOG ON COUNTRIES  SEEM TO BE IN DENMARL.  THEY CANT PM. THEY ARE NOT IN IRAQ.  THEY PUBLISH IN DENMARK AND THEN AIR IT AS IRAQI MEDIA.

 I THINK THEY ARE ALLOT OF EXILED WHO PRINT IT.  IN FACT ALLOT OF THE WRITERS IN THE IRAQI MEDIA DO NOT LIVE IN IRAQ AND THEN THEY CANT BE CENSORED OR BE PUNISHED.  SEE IN MALIKI'S FIRST TERM IF YOU SPOKE OUT IN THE MEDIA AGAINST THE GOI YOU WERE FINED 1 MILLION PLUS DINAR WITHOUT ANY RIGHT TO JUDICIARY ACTION.  I AM NOT SURE HOW THIS WILL BE SETTLED IF IT IS THE UN, THE U.S. OR IF THEY ACTUALLY MEDIATE THEIR OWN BEHAVIOR AND GET THINGS SETTLED NOW I HAVE SEEN IT SO MANY TIMES.

WHERE MALIKI COMES IN AND SAYS AND AGREES TO ALL THE RIGHT THINGS BUT IT ALSO ALWAYS SEEMS HE MANIPULATES THE CONCESSIONS SO THAT THE OTHER SIDE GOES FIRST THEN HE BALKS AND THE CIRCLE STARTS AGAIN.   ALLAWI CLAIMS THAT THE U.S. HAS NOW THE RIGHT TO INTERVENE.  HOW COME HE NEVER BROUGHT ANY OF THIS UP BEFORE?  THE ONLY THING I SAW EVER FROM ALLAWI WAS THAT HE WAS TOTALLY AGAINST US FORCES BEING EXTENDED.  I DONT KNOW IF HE IS HAVING MEMORY LOSS OR WHAT, BUT HE WAS ONLY FOLLOWING THE MOOD OF THE WEEK IN IRAQ WHICH WAS WE WANT THE INFIDELS GONE.  NOW THEY ARE ALL LIKE THE FRENCH, COME BACK COME BACK, THE GERMANS ARE COMING.  IT IS SO FUNNY.   WELL NOT FUNNY BUT I KNOW LIKE HE IS GUARANTEEING IT.  I SERIOUSLY DOUBT HE WOULD EVER GET THE NOD AGAIN NOW THE NA MAY GET IT, BUT I CANNOT SEE HIM AS PM EVER AGAIN UNDER LEGIT CONDITIONS.

BUT AS YOU KNOW WHEN THEY JERKED THAT AROUND BEFORE WITH THE ELECTION LAW, THE US AND UN BOTH SAID THAT THEY WOULD NOT RECOGNIZE A GOVT THAT WAS NOT LEGALLY ELECTED IN IRAQ AND THAT ALL TREATIES AND AGREEMENTS WOULD BE NULL AND VOIDED.  I AM SURE THAT WE WILL WATCH FOR A WEEK OR SO
AND THEN SOME TYPE OF STRONG WORDS WILL COME FROM THE U.S.  I JUST DONT SEE THE UN EXCEPT FOR MAYBE MOON SAYING ANYTHING


MIG Member draavmorris2  Bank Story:  Just waiting for it to show. I have to share with you a bank story that happened to me. If anything. It lets you know that they are "ready" for you like big time.

i called my bank, they are on extended hours today. Although they stated that they would not be open monday (yeah right), anyway, i called them, and talked with a gentleman. An i explained my situation, and that i was just trying to get everything in order.

so, i told him that i had iraq dinar, and wanted to know if i could make an appointment to be cashed out. He asked me if i wanted to come in "today", i said if i could that would be great! He asked me what bills i had, because there were only certain ones

i told him i had 25k, 10k and 5k. He said i was hoping you would say that. I asked him what the rate was, he said i will be right back. He said, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, the rate isn't showing at this moment in time, he said otherwise he would do it. He asked if i wanted to make an appointment, i said yes. So i have a tentative appointment for tuesday @11am.

so, they know it is coming and/or here, for he didn't even blink an eye! And again, he stated that all i can do is give you our rate for now. I said, well, i need to know the ust and the cbi rate, too. But we will see what we can do!  he didn't even blink and eve. And i also told him i had a group of people and gave him the estimated amount that would be cashed. He was "very" that they could cash at this time.  i told him i had 25k, 10k and 5k. He said i was hoping you would say that. I asked him what the rate was, he said i will be right back. He said, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm,  the rate isn't showing at this moment in time, he said otherwise he would do it. He asked if i wanted to make an appointment, i said yes. So i have a tentative appointment for tuesday @11am.

so, they know it is coming and/or here, for he didn't even blink an eye! And again, he stated that all i can do is give you our rate for now. I said, well, i need to know the ust and the cbi rate, too. But we will see what we can do! he didn't even blink and eve. And i also told him i had a group of people and gave him the estimated amount that would be cashed. He was "very" willing to help. He said when you are ready i am here for YOU.....   it was one of the big 4 banks and as god is my witness, this just happened not to long ago, today.   so, this story is my gift to all of you. To let you know that we are there! And the banks are ready! Merry christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!​!!!!!


3S's Member contaylor Bank Story:  i went in to wf today..i have a personal banker..who is starting to become my friend..  i told her about the dinar back in july...and showed her mine..so i go in there today and ask her to start looking to see if anything is going on..   she said a couple of months ago she called the main branch to see if they were selling dinar and they told her NO because now she wants to buy some...

she knows something...she started acting all weird..and they all of sudden she starts quoting all kinds of information regarding the dinar..i told her she could purchase at a local bank where we live.  her eyes lite up and she said i am going over there today to get some...she plays dumb..when i asked her to bring up the wf screen.  she went into some online currency exchange..i told her ..i could have done that..look at well fargo screen..she clamed up..said i dont know how..we dont buy or sell the dinar...hmmm but she is gooing to buy some\

i told her to be quiet....and not to share her information with anyone and to keep me updated if she found out anything..i told her i would make it worth her while if she did...  i took her a very nice x-mas present and see her about three times a week\  so i listen and slip my comments in..she shows me her whole bank screens.

i believe my town is small and the branch is smaller...her financial advisor at the bank,....told her to buy some if she had extra money laying around..  she brought up a curreny exchange site..i told her no...go to your bank screens..she played dumb and said i asked months ago and wf does not buy or sale dinar..
then she said ....well you know how the feds work..they take forever to get them off the terroist list so  then she said..i just dont understand this whole currency thing...duh!!! you wofk for a bank

they are keeping these banker tellers at bay...i believe it is a need to know basis only..that is why jonny says tdo not call the bank..they do not have a clue.  well if she happens to call me this weekend..i will let you all know...have a wonderful holiday and an awsome new year...

One Who Believes Says JUST SAY NO! 12/22/16

Say No To Groups

There are "People" who don't want you to have money. There are "People" who want to take your money. There are "People" who want to control your money. You have to be Alert now more than ever. Here are a few of the Cabal Scams so far.

Stage #1 - Ounce of Prevention

The first trick from the Cabal and their Minions was to keep you from finding out about the GCR. They put out information that the Dinar was a scam, and had people making fun of those who were buying Dinar like they had some sort of disillusioned addiction.

Then they even had the Banks telling people it was a scam and that they would NEVER EVER be dealing with the Iraqi Dinar. I know countless people who did not buy currencies because of what was on the Bank website and on the recorded messages. Of course this helped the Evil powers "That Were" by not only tricking good people into to not buying currencies, but it also kept their own employees at the Bank in line as well. Of course this stage is over now, as even Citi Bank now "ADMITS" to dealing with Dinar.

Stage #2 - Not In The Basket

I remember this stage very well. It was always a question if the ZIM was in the basket. Sometimes it was and then the next thing we heard it was not. This was a very effective strategy for the Cabal and their Minions because people who still believed in the RV no matter what the Bank said, could now be tricked into thinking it was now out of the basket. This meant that there was going to be an RV, but the currency you had somehow was going to be left behind in the process.

Of course now this argument is all but over. We know exactly what currencies are "In The Basket" and are not going to be tricked on the matter anymore.

Stage #3 - Low Rates

The next trick of the Cabal and their Minions was to quote Low rates. This was to slow down the excitement about the possible money that could be made on these currencies. Can you imagine how many people would have be involved if these super high rates like a $1 on ZIM at Face Value had been known back then?

This Cabal trick worked for a long time even up to this year. However, along came Yosef and man did he blow the lid of that one. We now heard that Zim was not only a currency but a bond as well, which would be the Reserve currency for all of Africa, and that it would be redeemed at face value with high rates.

Well the low rates Cabal Trick has just about run out now. I don't see anyone quoting 6 cents on the ZIM with 6 zeros lopped off anymore. It is clear that all currencies will be honored at their face value during exchange. That being said, I have seen some post the ridiculous notion that the $25,000 Iraq Dinar was going to be $25. So that is proof that some of the Minions are still at work trying to scare you with pure BS.

Stage #4 - Cabal Fear

I'm not going to spend much time on this ridiculous notion. You might have noticed the post that said to burn your currency so that the Cabal wouldn't get it. I could hardly believe anyone had the nerve to put this out. If they couldn’t stop you from buying it, and couldn't get you to take it back to the currency dealer, then they tried to get you to burn it instead. They said to burn it so the Cabal wouldn't end up getting the money. But this did not work and I know this because there was no one asking if they should burn their currency. No one "bought" that BS.

Stage #5 - Must Be In A Group

Well here we are and it is almost time to exchange and the Cabal and their Minions still won’t quit. Their banks saying "No Dinar Ever" didn't stop you from buying Dinar anyway. The "not in the basket" ploy or the "low rate" ploy didn't keep you from buying ZIM anyway. The "Burn your Currency" to keep the Cabal from getting it ploy fell flat on its face as well. So what is the Cabal and their Minions now trying to do, to keep regular people from getting rich and taking their power away? Yes, of course.... The "You have to be in a group" ploy.

I have heard this scam in so many different ways. There is the "We have a special connection to the Treasury" ploy, which says only people who know someone in the Treasury will get to exchange these currencies. Then there is the "I have a connection with the Elders" ploy, which says that only people with a special relationship with the Chinese Elders will get to exchange. Then there is the "No individual can exchange" ploy, which says that regular people cannot go by themselves into and exchange center or bank and exchange their currencies, that they now need someone to do it for them.

No matter the fear tactic used, the scam works the same way. You send in your currency to some person, and they make a deal for you. They will then send you the money they get for your currency. ( I have to tell you that writing this sentence was so hard to do for me, it was so stupid)

Think About It

Think about this for a moment. You are going to send millions, billions, and even trillions of dollars worth of currency to some person on the internet, somewhere, and they are going to take care of you? Is this because they really care about you? Then you are going to sit by when the exchanges start to happen, and wait to see if you get a wire, or a check in the mail? This is all because some "Person" you contacted on the internet said send me your currency, you can trust me, and I promise to give you millions of dollars back? Can you see how ridiculous this is as you read it?

Do yourself a favor. Pretend that you are explaining this to your family who are depending on you to make the best decisions for the good of all. Now read out loud, that you will send your REAL currency, which will be worth Millions if not more, off to some person on the internet, somewhere, who promises that you can trust them, and that they will get you the best rate and they promise to send you the money they get for it. Can you see their faces now? They say "Mom, Dad, you gave the currency away to someone on the internet?" You say, "No, I sent it away, I didn't give it away. They promised me that I could trust them, and it was all in writing that they would pay me for it."

Tony Said...

I remember when Tony said something like "The minute this GCR happens, there are going to be a lot of people who have lost all their money, and for others, it only takes one person to sue the group, and it will freeze all the money, for every person in that group, for years in litigation." So while others are out spending their money they got from the Exchange centers, and the Banks, you will be spending your remaining money in law suits just trying to get your currency back.

Choose Sides

I am not a "Follower" of TNT or KTFA as it is not my kind of intel. But, with that being said, I have not heard of them saying that you have to be in a group to exchange or get the better rates... Have you? Frankly, I remember back in the day when Tony was still there they would say to ask for the "Contract Rates" when you go in the bank. Of course we know these to be now called the "Sovereign / Privately Negotiated Rates." They didn't say you had to be in a group to get them. Frankly all my favorite Intel sources have NEVER said that you had to be in a group to get the good rates. These are Yosef, Bruce, Fisher, and Zorra.

So you have to choose sides. Do you side with all the top Intel Providers, or do you go with some unknown person who suddenly showed up and says you have to join a group? The choice is yours to make. You have your future and the future of all the people you would have helped riding on your decision. Will you choose to keep control of your future in your hands, or will it be to give your currency and control to someone else you met on the internet? I can tell you that I won't let my currency leave my hands until I have a deposit receipt in my hands from the Bank. But, you have to decide for yourself.

For me personally: I wouldn't A) Trust any group, B) Put my currency in someone else's hands for any reason, C) Let someone else decide how much money I am to get, and D) When I am to get it.

The Exchange Center

When you go into an Exchange center, you have your currency in your own hands. The Banker tells you how much they will give you for it, and after negotiating a deal, you GET ALL YOUR MONEY IN YOUR ACCOUNT AT THE SAME TIME YOU HAND OVER YOUR CURRENCY. You walk out the door with money already in your Bank account and cash money in hand.

While you are laughing all the way to the Bank and back, others are crying because they wonder if they made a mistake joining a group, and still others find out they did make a mistake when they get a letter in the mail that the group they joined is under investigation and that most likely their currency will never be returned.

People Are Going To Lose Their Money

I am sure that the Cabal tricks have worked on many people over the years. I personally know people who believed the bank when they said the Dinar was a scam, and others who did not buy ZIM because they were told it was worthless. There may have been some who were so sacred of the Cabal getting the money that they burned it. Now this last big push to get people into groups and send their money away, is the last trick the Cabal have. I am sure some of you already have been tricked.

If You Still Have Currency

If you still have your currency, you have passed the test. I call it a test, because the Cabal and their evil Minions have tried everything they could to keep you from having it and then other ways to get it from you. But, you did not give into fear. You stood firm in your belief and faith and that is what it takes to manage the huge amounts of money you will be getting. Those who fear now, will be tricked later as well. For the rest of you who are still holding you currency, I congratulate you.

There is a reason for the 7000 exchange centers. It is because they are for INDIVIDUAL exchanges. The Real (Original) groups, go to Reno to exchange. They do not need exchange centers. When it is time, You will be getting notification and exact instructions on how to set up an appointment to exchange your currency. That notification will be coming very soon.

The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that the Cabal has not given up yet and are still trying to keep you from getting rich and taking away their power over you. They try to scare you into making a big mistake and many have already been taken down by them. Will you be the next to lose your currency? It is crunch time now and you better think very carefully so that you don’t get taken out of the game at this last minute.

Remember This: A) No one can make a better deal on your currencies than you can in person. B) Even if they get a deal, what will they take as their cut? C) Once you give up your currency, you no longer have ANY CONTROL over your money. D) Many group leaders will be arrested and still other groups will be frozen because of law suits, investigation and/or fraud.

The purpose of the GCR is not to create powerful groups, instead it is to break up powerful groups and give the money to the people. The plan is the Meek shall inherit the Earth.

I took a lot of time to write this for you to read and consider. I have no group to join, nothing to sell you, no advertising income from this, and no other benefit from it. It is my gift to you, that you keep control of your own life, and don’t be tricked out of it. In the end it is your decision what you do for you, and yours.

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of your Dreams

Signed: One Who Believes

P.S. Shout Out To Heisenberg's "Word Of The Day!"

The Picture (Above) Was Just Too Good and I had to Use it!

The Exact Plan - One Who Believes 12/20/16

Here Is The EXACT Plan:

There seems to be so much worry about who will be President or not, when the CGR will happen, who are the Good Guys and who are not, etc. However, with all that being said, I know the EXACT Plan, and I am going to detail it for you in this post. But, before I reveal the EXACT Plan, I want to cover some important points.

The Players And Their Places

First thing to know is the "Players" in this epic transformation of our World, and the Universe. This would be a good time to note that not only are the Dark Forces "Turning To The Light" here on Earth, but, it is also happening throughout the rest of the Universe as well. Since this is a change of the entire Universe, then the players are more Universal in nature.

At the Highest Level of the Game or plan, it is a bringing of all the Universe into one "Accord," one vibration in unity, in the frequency of Love. Since all the Universe is one, the seeming fight is one against self. It is just an "Alignment" bringing all of self, into congruency of the whole. Thus the Uni-Verse which translates to the One-Verse.

However, at a lower level it looks like a battle or fight between the Light and the Dark. But you have to realize that the Light does not hate, or harm, or destroy, it only Loves and overcomes and encourages that which vibrates less than Love, to come up to love.

If this were a true fight against a "Separate" enemy, they would have been wiped out and vaporized where they stand, no questions asked. But it is not that easy to fight yourself without harming the whole. Thus the dark side has been given opportunity after opportunity again and again to give up and turn to the light. During this time many have come over to the light, which is a huge success. If you were to use a medical example it would be like saving the leg from having to be cut off. For every soul who returned to the light, a part of the whole was healed of its misalignment.

However, there are still parts that are so far out of alignment with the Light, that they are finally being cut off (Killed) as they are unable to be saved. In the big picture it hurts the whole, but in the end saves the rest from further harm.

In Summation, the transformation is about saving (Curing) as many souls as possible before killing (Amputation) is required. We are now in the final stages where all who could be saved were, and the rest must be cut away (Killed Off), to save us.

The Place Of No Time

Time is a creation of experience. I have read in many places that time is like a page in a book. If you turn to that page, (Focus There) then you are experiencing that time and all it entails. However, if you realize that is how time is, then you realize that there is an outcome from this page, already "Written" on the next page. At the place where time no longer exists, this matter is long over. The World is a paradise and being Human on Earth is the most beautiful experience to be had.

Your Life Was Your Choice

You chose to be here on Earth at this time in history to user in the change we are now seeing. If you think about it, this time for us now, IS, the most exciting time in the History of Earth. Before now, the lifetime experience for a person would be: Get Born, live a rough life of fear and lack, then die of war, disease, or feeble old age. I am sure we have all lived that experience many times.

Now, before I talk about our experience in this NOW time in history, let me brief you on the future experience on Earth. You get born, are loved and nurtured, have a great life of doing what you want being loved by all as you are expressing love to all, live a long time, may be 1000 years or more, then finally at some point transition out of the Human experience. Yes, I know that sounds great and it is. However these two life experiences have one thing in common, they are "Ordinary" experiences from beginning to end. One an ordinary stressed life experience, and the other an ordinary great life experience.

This Life, Right Now, Was Your Choice

This is the most exciting time to ever be alive on Planet Earth. This is the acceleration phase. The part where we go from lack and pain, to abundance and peace so fast that you can hardly keep up. Not only do we get to see and witness this great change in the World, and the Universe, but you are one of the main participants in the game!!!!! Before you got here you said "Put Me In Coach!!!!, I want to play in this game!!!!"

You will go from traveling around your town, to traveling around the Solar System, and into Hollow Earth. You will have hover cars, that get from one place to the other at thousands of miles an hour, if you are taking it slow. You will have a Star Trek replicators that manifests whatever you ask for. You will go from unhealthy to perfect health in a 20 year old body that will last for a thousand years. You will be living in the time in which you helped the World turn to the light, and get back on its feet, and then usher in the new age of space travel and meeting others from all over the Universe. It is easy to see this is going to get very exciting!!!! It is an exciting time of transformation, the great change, and you are right smack dab in the middle of it.

Here Is The EXACT Plan:

O.K. all that being said here is the exact plan so that you know what is going to be happening. I am going to lay it out in a certain order, even though many things are happening at the same time at various stages:

#1) Convert as many of the Dark Souls to the Light as possible and then, instruct the rest to Exit (Die) in a way of their own choosing.

#2) Supply the World with an abundance of Money so that the people of the suffice population of Earth may participate in helping themselves, and at the same time healing the Earth as well.

#3) Change out corrupt governments with a new governmental structures more in line with the principals of the light and love.

#4) Offer healing assistance to the surface population to heal every disease and regrow every limb until all have been returned to perfect health.

#5) Leverage this new planetary wealth coupled with the new benevolent governments to raise the consciousness of the planet up to the 5d level.

(Over Time)

#6) Improve technology and Human experience to the point where money becomes so unimportant that it no longer plays a part in life on Earth.

(Much Later)

#7) Remove everyone from the Planet (The "Gathering") so that she can expand in size by 1/3. After Earth goes through her growth spurt, and it is safe to live there again, we will be allowed to return to live in the Hollow Earth area or we can choose to move to another planet, in another Solar system or Galaxy.

(Much Later)

#8) All Earth souls who have gone through this amazing growing experience living on Earth, will be dispersed through the Universe as teachers, and mentors. We have learned compassion as we were oppressed, and learned love in spite of all that we endured, and finally, we all raised up to the higher frequency by our own choice. Only those who have experienced what we have experienced here on Earth, can teach what we have learned in the process. There is a HUGE difference between knowing and experiencing. We have experienced it all.

Your View Point

If you are the public at large, you don’t even know that anything is going on. However at our point of view, we know that there is a big change coming. We are to have huge amounts of money and go forth and help the World. We are to have a new Restored Republic that will act as the model for other governments around the World. It is so easy to think that we know so much when compared to the sleeping public. However, as much as we think we know, we really don’t know squat about what is really going on, and what the real game moves are.

Do you really think you know everything there is to know about Trump or Ryan? Where did you learn what you think you know? Cabal School, or was it from the Cabal Media? Or was it from some hip "alt right" information source on the Web? Do you really think that you know enough from these sources to determine what the best choice is or is not? I've got news for you.... No matter what you know, or think you know, you don’t know everything that you need to know to decide the matter.

Maybe they were Cabal.... So what... People change and go the right way. Maybe they will or won’t be President.... Again it doesn't matter. All that matters, is that whomever becomes President in the end, will be the most qualified, and most capable person, and the very best choice to take us through this World Change. THAT IS A GIVEN. Frankly, I can guarantee you, that if you knew everything about this that you would need to know, you would make the same choice for the same reasons. Suffice to say, that the best person, the right person, will be the one who gets the job, and they will do exactly what needs to be done, for the best outcome. THAT IS A GIVEN.

Your/Our Perfect Logic

How can logic go wrong? Easy! We think that we are so logical and are so well equipped to decide a point one way or the other. But, ironically, Logic has one huge flaw, You have to know all the facts before you can logically decide anything. You can't debate the logic of our Bases on Mars, if you don't know we have a secret space program. You can't talk about the gravity of Earth, and the nature of its design, if you think that it is solid with a molten core. Science and physics? Forget about it. You don’t even have a chance because the real science is so far advanced beyond what you were permitted to know.

Do you think that you have a better chance in debating politics? No matter how much you think you know, unless you are blood line, you don’t know a thing. Just to show you how clueless we really are, consider a recent post about the secret space program. It turns out that we have several secret space programs and each of them has no idea about the others. Even the people who think they have the highest secret clearances and are in what they think is the most secret program there is, are dumbfounded to find out there are even more secret things they don't know. So I don't care how logical you are, and how much your arguments make sense, they are instantly flawed due to lack of information that you don’t have or have wrong.

So, Who Will It Be?

We can guess all we want about who will be president of some other matters as a sort of game to see who is right. BUT, there is NOTHING to be upset about, because the EXACT right person will get the job, FOR VERY GOOD REASONS, which you may or may not ever know. So guess all you want. Post daily if you like. BUT, don’t get mad about it one way or the other. It works out in the end, just as it needs to be, just as it should be, just as it will be. Whoever it ends up being, and how ever that process happens, it will be the best choice made by the people who know EVERYTHING there is to know on the matter. No more and no less.

It Is Like A Chess Game

The Turning of the Dark into the light is just one strategic move after another. No matter what moves the Dark make, there is a counter move of love beckoning them to turn to the light. However, here is a spoiler alert, the Light winds in the end. All darkness is turned to the light. Some pieces on the chess board change from dark to the light and now assist, and others must be removed from the game altogether. But no matter the moves by the dark, the light wins.

Sometimes we get caught up in the "Game Play" as it is still in progress. We think that Hillary will not debate Trump, but she does instead. Then we think that Obama will resign and the Republic be announced before the election even takes place, but again the game went in a different direction. That is the nature of the game. From the moment the game began, the end was already certain, but between the start and the end it is so fluid and exciting to say the least.

Some said that there was no way that the election would be cancelled by an Obama Resignation. They were right. But was it because that was the plan all along, or were they right because that is how the game happened to go? We may never know. However, there will be lots of people who were right about one thing or another and wrong about others because the game is fluid and changing all the time. However, we know all we need to know and that is "It works out in the end, just as planned."

The Bottom Line

The bottom line, is that debating who will be president or any aspect of this whole plan is an exercise in futility. Even if you are exactly right, it most likely has already changed due to some new situation. To be clear, it is fun to try to figure it all out, while we are waiting, but it is nothing to fight about, since we don’t actually know anyway.

All you have to know about the plan, is that it works out perfectly in the end. In the place where time no longer exists, it has already happened perfectly. Whomever is president, is perfect for reasons you may never know. Don't worry about that because it is already handled by those who do know everything that needs to be known on the matter. What is to happen has already been written in history and is just now playing out before our eyes.

Your part is also already written, but yet to play out and unfold into reality. You get lots of money, and in some way contribute to Humanity and the Earth. That we know. However, your part is also fluid and can go in many different directions from here. It is written that it has happened magnificently in the end, but exactly how, is yet to be seen or experienced by you. That is your part now. Don’t be upset about the parts of the game that are not your parts to play. Instead, concentrate on your part of the World Change, your moves, your game play.

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of your Dreams

Signed: One Who Believes

Guru Archangel Michael 12/19/16

AAM: 10 Things to Leave at Redemption's Door - #3 War

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Archangel Michael's Christmas Countdown: 10 Things to Leave at Redemption's Door - #3 War

12/18/16

Archangel Michael:

Once and for ALL, leave WAR at Redemption's Doorstep.

War? You say, "I'm not at war."

War in YOUR life is the urge to argue, retort, block, resist, push back, lie, defy, dispute, sabotage, lose control, control, condemn, defy, pout, manipulate, demand, and even rage.

Replace war with connection.

Connection is Love.
Connection = Love.
Love is true connection.
The connection of you, to your true self, your Higher Self.
You to the relationships in your life, heart to heart.
You to God.

That is what is real - your connections to others, to God.
Inherent in connection is compassion, cooperation and unity.

That is the pathway of Love, and that is Love itself.

Love displaces war.

Painful tendencies, memories and experiences dissolve in the face of your choice to connect, truly connect, truly consider others - not above yourself - in Love!

When you choose to nurture yourself, to forgive yourself, to understand instead of feel shame, you connect with what is real.

Gentle, gentle connection. Love replaces war.

I Am, Archangel Michael.

WSOMN Thursday Drama 12/8/16

1) Zim is dead
2) There is a certainty that ZIM notes you hold will not be accepted anywhere -- ever.
3) There is a snowballs chance in a very warm place, but then again truth has never been your strong suit.
4) See #3
5) Ditto
6) There is a certainty it will not happen then or any other time in the foreseeable future.
7) The Markets are at near record highs, some analysts expect it could hit 2200 within the next 6-12 months. If that's fragility, I can't wait to see it strong.

11/27/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

Part #2:

[b]Guru Ernorrste: During the Conference call last night, I asked a question that no one has really had a good answer to. Here is that question.. Economically, why would Iraq spend all that money or their reserves to RV there currency, when they could RD there currency and get a free ride to the top and pay nothing but printing new currency? What is the advantage, or disadvantages of both?

One person said there would be no advantage to an RV, and a RD would serve them better when you put it that way.

Then I asked Enorrste, he was nice enough to send me an email today with his opinion..here it is.
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Enorrste's Response to Kaperoni's 10 reason post
There was a post that was made by Kaperoni that I would like to address. I am not sure why he would post the things that he did here, as all of the reasons he posted just have no merit, and can easily be proved as false. I understand that it is important to keep site traffic in order to sell products to make money, but not at the expense of misinforming people about this investment, which can put a new investor that may not know better at financial risk.

I have posted a response for each of the reasons he provided. Please see my responses in Blue. I sincerely hope that I can clarify some of the misunderstandings that his post may have caused.

10 reasons why the IQD will not LOP

1. Monetary policy was a success talking inflation from 35% or higher to around 7% currently.

This is true, that the policies have in fact reduced inflation, so I will give Kap a nod on that one, but what is not true, is that this is a reason it will not redenominate. Let’s first make a distinction here, that there is no such thing as a “lop”, and it is just a made up word. The correct terminology is a redenomination, and a lop is NOT a devaluation, nor is a redenomination a devaluation.

That being said, historically, when a country redenominates, it is usually done as a sign that the inflationary period has ended, and why they usually will redenominate after hyper-inflation, not generally during that hyper inflationary period. In fact, it is more of a psychological thing than anything, as well as to ease the cash transactions with the smaller numbers. Now the important thing to keep in mind, is that this does not mean that high inflation cannot occur after a redenomination also, because it could, as it has happened in prior redenominations as well. A redenomination is not meant to resolve inflation, therefore this reason simply does not prove what he is trying to say.

[size=13]JayP is mistaken here. Google "redenomination" and look at the Wikipedia article. There you will see that out of some 50 redenominations posted all but 7 of them were for severe inflation or hyperinflation. This situation does NOT exist in Iraq. While there is inflation, this is not the primary reason for changing the value of the dinar, according to both Shabibi and Al-Zubaidi, who have had a plan for over 5 years.
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2. Any type of currency devaluation (LOP) is considered a failure of monetary policy. Dr. Shabibi has not failed.

As stated in response to #1, a redenomination does not mean a devaluation. This is a statement that is simply NOT true. In fact, once a redenomination has occurred, the consolidated value of the Dinar could very well be just under, equal to, or over the dollar. For example, if a Dinar is currently .00086:1, then a 25K note is worth about 21.5 USD, and then in a case of a redenomination, if they were to move the decimal over 3 places, it would apply to all things the same, prices, rates, accounts, etc, therefore the new rate can potentially be .86, therefore after the decimal is moved over 3 places, 25 new dinars, would still be worth 21.5 USD. This shows NO devaluation has occurred, and the strength of the new currency has not changed once the zeros are deleted, just as they have stated in those articles we read.
In a redenomination, it would not mean Shabibi has failed, only succeeded in his plans that he has been saying he wanted to do all along. It is the govt right now that does not want him to follow through on his plans to redenominate at this point for reasons they gave of fears of corruption or counterfeiting in the process.

[size=13]See the following link:[/size]
[size=13]http://www.rferl.org/content/Iraq_Pl...n/1950504.html[/size]
”[size=13]Saleh said by the end of 2010 the new banknotes will be fully introduced while the old banknotes will be gradually removed from circulation.”[/size]


[size=13]Now, if the old banknotes will be gradually removed from circulation, rather than "lopped" then Saleh's statement makes sense. It does NOT make sense if there is a lop, because the "new banknotes" would be worthless while the "old banknotes" remain in circulation. The only way in which Shabibi's plan can be considered a success is with a raise in the value of the dinar.[/size]


3. Lesser value notes in circulation such as 50, 250, 500. Devaluing the larger 3 zero notes would make them worth less than these lesser notes.

This is an interesting one, one that had me thinking when Kap started with this theory almost a year ago. Unfortunately, this holds no water, as in a redenomination, they do not just redenominate some notes, and not others. When they talk about the 3 zeros, what this actually means is the movement of the decimal point over 3 places. This would apply to all notes, accounts, prices alike. Please look up the terminology for a Homogenous function. You will see the definition of this there. You will also find that this is a term that is used in these 3 zero articles explaining the process as well. Please see the link below and you will see where it uses this term in the explanation of the process:

http://iraqdinar.us/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=28096
[size=13]I followed this link and found this statement in the article: "Under such circumstances, the deterioration of the value of the currency increased the coin most of the 25 dinars to 25,000 dinars, which means that inflation is added, these zeros *. _____________________________ * do not fit categories of existing currency with the current economic situation and the next. For example, and before the outbreak of the Iran-Iraq war was category of 25 dinars equivalent to $ 75 purchasing power of the time or the equivalent in the present 300 thousand dinars."[/size]


[size=13]This clearly states that before the Iran-Iraq war the dinar was worth $3 per dinar. Saleh is indicating that the plan is to return the value to that level, or higher.[/size]


Now, here is a definition of Homogenous:
1: of the same or a similar kind or nature
2: of uniform structure or composition throughout homogeneous neighborhood>
3: having the property that if each variable is replaced by a constant times that variable the constant can be factored out : having each term of the same degree if all variables are considered homogeneous equation>
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homogeneous


Here is another good explanation:
http://www.economics.utoronto.ca/osborne/MathTutorial/HOMF.HTM


4. Iraq wants the dinar to be an international reserve currency. Cannot devalue the notes in reserve (25,000), circulate them as payment, or traded amongst countries.

First, in this response, please see my response to #2. If the CBI were to redenominate, that does NOT mean a devaluation. That is 2 different things, but something those that want to distort the facts do not want you to realize.

2nd, the rate does not determine tradeability. Last I checked, the Vietnam Dong at 21,000:1 is as good as any other currency, just takes a whole lot more Dong to do business with it. So I have to say, this reason, holds as much value as the Dinar or the Dong does right now!

[size=13]Your point remains valid irrespective of what JayP just wrote. The simple fact is that Maliki and Shabibi are on record stating that the IQD will become the strongest currency in the Middle East. This can only happen if the VALUE of the IQD is the strongest in the Middle East. There is no other meaning for the term "strongest" that I am aware of.
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5. Iraq holds arguable the second largest oil reserves and is mineral rich. They are too wealthy to not honor the value stated on the notes.
Are they wealthy with the Oil reserves, and mineral rich, sure, I will give him a nod on this one as well, but that does not mean that they would not redenominate. The determination to redenominate is not based on Oil reserves, and even if so, having the oil, and getting the oil out of the ground is 2 different things. In either case though, I disagree that there is so much Oil that they can just revalue 1000x the amount or more than they are at right now, not without reducing the money supply first, and this was even stated by the CBI themselves.

[size=13]JayP just stepped on his own foot here with the statement "not without reducing the money supply first". In fact this is just what Shabibi has been doing by drawing down the money supply from 25 trillion dinars to 25 billion dinars. He is on record that this is his plan since December of 2009. I can find the quote if necessary. With nearly $75 billion in reserves, plus the pile of Saddam's gold found in Kurdistan, plus the return of bank funds around the world, as well as other things like their ships, Iraq will have enough wealth in CASH to afford 100% coverage of its currency at $3.00 per dinar. Add to that the oil reserves, whether out of the ground or not, and Iraq can definitely afford a 1000x increase in the value of the dinar.
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6. Iraq has stated..They want the “strongest currency in the Middle East” Any such type of LOP would be a devaluation and therefore not considered strong.

This again goes back to #2. A redenomination is NOT a devaluation. Prove that they are the same thing, and then this is something to consider, until then, I think that we should be a little more realistic.

[size=13]This kind of answer is what is called "obfuscation". Instead of answering the question he comes up with a statement that is not related to he question. Your point is well made, namely that Iraq is on record to have the strongest currency in the Middle East. Whether a redenomination is a devaluation or not isn't relevant. Why? Because a redenomination will NOT make the dinar the strongest currency. This is the question he failed to answer. You do not have to prove that redeominating is the same as devaluing, only that it won't make the currency strong.[/size]


7. US holds dinar as a result if funding the CBI initial reserves. This dinar will eventually payoff the war debt.

All I can say about this, is show the proof. I will be willing to entertain this idea, if someone, anyone can show any shred of evidence of this to be true.

Let me provide the link below:
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/tic/Documents/mfh.txt


This is from the US Treasury website showing the US Foreign Reserves. You will see that it does not indicate anywhere in here that is shows IQD holdings. There is a group called Oil Exporters. If you notice the 3/ next to the name that refers to the #3 at the bottom and it reads:
“3/ Oil exporters include Ecuador, Venezuela, Indonesia, Bahrain, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Algeria, Gabon, Libya, and Nigeria.”

This means that the amount shown in the row for Oil Exporter nations consist of the combined holdings of all of those nations currency. So unless proof can be given that we hold as much Dinar as some would like to say, this is speculation at the very best, and nothing more.

Using this as a basis as to why they would not redenominate would simply be wrong, and I hardly think that a guess at something should ever be used as proof of something, especially when the proof itself is not verifiable. I challenge everyone to ask Kap this question, and I would be willing to bet you would get banned for even asking the question. I know, because I did.. lol!!

The other point I would like to make on this is that, even if we did hold Dinar, if they were to redenominate, as I stated in prior responses, this would not be a devaluation, therefore it would not mean any loss for the US reserves, but it would also mean that it would not be paying for any wars, and for those that may have heard of the wars will pay for themselves rumors, this is not true, and Bush never said those words. I would challenge anyone to provide proof of the quote if they do believe this. In fact, I can provide you with precisely where I believe that rumor came from. It was actually a statement made by Wolfowitz in 2003 talking about Iraq using Oil to pay for their own reconstruction, and I believe some guru out there twisted this quote to what the rumor has become today, like a tall tale over the years.

Here is the quote: Wolfowitz: "We're dealing with a country that could really finance its own reconstruction." As Think Progress noted, then-Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz testified before Congress on March 27, 2003, that "the oil revenues of that country [iraq] could bring between 50 and 100 billion dollars over the course of the next two or three years. Now, there are a lot of claims on that money, but that's --- we're not dealing with Afghanistan that's a permanent ward of the international community. We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction and relatively soon."

[size=13]I agree that no one has yet found Bush's supposed statement that Iraq would pay for the war. I looked for it myself at one time and found Wolfowitz's statement quoted above. Therefore we should not base our argument on this point (Bush's supposed statement). However, and this is important, your statement didn't mention Bush! DUH! So, this is the point and it is well made: even if the US has NO dinars in reserve at this point (which I seriously doubt), when we all cash in they will be FAT with dinars at the UST. Therefore our reserve position will be enhanced by the RV'd dinar, and that will pay for the war.
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8. One of the authors of the currency exchange plan - Assistant Professor Dr. Fadel states in his documentation, “We must emphasize the extremely important issue is that if you remove three zeroes from the currency should not affect the actual value thereof to be trading in the old currency…

Yes this was said, but please note what I stated in response to #2, in a redenomination, there is no affect on the purchase power, so I believe this to be accurate. In other words a 25K note worth .00086, and a 25 dinar note worth .86, they BOTH equal 21.5 USD, so a redenomination does NOT affect the actual value of their wealth, so this is no proof at all that they will not redenominate.

I would also like to mention a point about this author and what was said in this plan that Kap posted and spoke about:

2 - experiences of other countries: Moved from other countries suffered hyperinflation a similar course, particularly in Russia in the nineties of the last century. Turkey has also withdrawn (6) zeros from its currency without prejudice to the true value. Providing Treasury Secretary Turkish then Ali Babacan, Minister of Foreign Affairs the current bill to get rid of zeros six in the Turkish lira and by 2005, and resulted in inflation witnessed in Turkey that the price of one euro to one million and 7,820,333 Turkish liras,and Turkey has witnessed discussions on the adoption of such a wage-earners in the removal of six zeroes from the currency. And seem to rein in high inflation in Turkey is not only through the removal of zeros six of the Turkish currency for the first time succeeded the Turkish government in reducing the rate of inflation to the target set for the current year and of 19.3% and although this rate is high compared to other countries and the bill was introduced to the Prime Minister's Office to the application and began the application where it began trading currencies for a specified period after which the old currency was withdrawn and replaced the new currency.

http://dinaralert.webs.com/apps/forums/topics/show/6612064-assistant-professor-dr-fadel-punitive-a-special-article-economic-forum-uae-
So as you can see, even in this plan that Kap talked about, he failed to mention this part where they even talk about a redenomination, and mention Turkey and what they did.

I will also add from this post:
3 - the possible effects of this procedure The phenomenon of rising prices in the world is caused mainly by the decline in currency values ​​and thus lower the purchasing value. And your conception that the best remedy for these reflections on the psychology of the Iraqi individual and the market is in the drafting of a new Iraqi currency prices are back with the logical relationship between the cost of the real item and the selling price based on the market. The write-off three zeros from the Iraqi currency is tantamount to re-price their nature and reduce the size of the introduction of inflation growing, and perhaps the best example of the Turkish experience.The written off after six zeros to become with him a million pounds and the only one and the same purchasing power for the previous million, it became possible to purchase Blairh one was in the past one million pounds.

The abolition of the zeros from the currency, which inevitably suffer from inflation will limit the negative effects of the current world of hyperbole in the prices of goods and services and will return for the currency balance and weight.

That such a decision, if adopted by the Iraqi government, he would not return to the Iraqi currency value based upon, but will reflect as well as the flexibility of the economy and his movement in the right direction for that from our analysts economists to look seriously for this phenomenon by holding seminars and conferences to form through which the views of access to rein in inflation and a rise in prices and the return of the Iraqi currency to the value of real and normal.
Please read this for yourselves, and you will see what this plan is really sayng.

The omission of three zeroes of the Iraqi currency to achieve the following objectives: 1 - to fight inflation, 2 - support the banking system

3 - help to know the size of the wealth distribution and how 4 - banking system's ability to control liquidity, 5 - create financial surpluses are used in financing 6 - to increase awareness of the banking system.
Unfortunately, this contradicts Kaps own theory.

[size=13]Please note the following quote from the article above (2 paragraphs up): "the return of the Iraqi currency to the value of real and normal. " Clearly this statement indicates that the current value is not "real" and not "normal". The question, then, is this: "What is real and normal?" The answer comes from the Ministry of Finance itself:[/size]
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[size=13]Here is the quote: "It is worth mentioning that the Central Bank of Iraq said in a statement issued on February 6 this year, announced a plan to delete the zeros of the Iraqi currency before the end of the year 2010, and has completed 50% of the preparations for the work according to this strategy. [/size][size=13]ومن المؤمل ان ينتهي العمل بهذه السياسية المالية نهاية العام الحالي[/size][size=13]. It is hoped to be completed this fiscal policy later this year. "[/size]


[size=13]Now, notice that the process of deleting the three zeros BEGAN in February of 2010. JayP says that the term "delete the 3 zeros" means moving the decimal point. So, have they been moving the decimal point since February of 2010? Of course not! And the process was 50% completed at the end of 2010. So does that mean that they've moved the decimal 1.5 places thus far? Of course not![/size]


[size=13]This statement ALONE is enough to prove that "remove the three zeros" has to do with reducing the money supply by removing the NOTES with 3 zeros, and has NOTHING to do with moving a decimal point.[/size]


”9. In 2003 when the NID was introduced at it’s initial rate, the previous currency was in essence devalued taking all wealth from the country to prevent funding of terrorism. Raising the currencies value will in essence, return that wealth now that the GOI is stable and economic conditions have improved.

I am sorry, but this one really is laughable. The fact of the matter, is that this one, is absolutely untrue and inaccurate. In fact, let me provide some proof that I have that proves this one to be untrue.

Please see the below link:
http://treasury.un.org/operationalrates/Details.aspx?code=IQD¤cy=Iraqi+Dinar&country=Iraq


This goes back to Dec 2001. Please see the rate as of Dec 2001: 2023:1 .. yep, that is Dec 2001, well before the NID was introduced, or before we even ever invaded Iraq. The fact and reality is that the currency was being devalued years prior to the NID. In fact, the rate right now is almost twice as high as it was back then PRIOR to the new notes being changed. This was due to inflation, and why the amount of dinars that were being printed were printed. So it would be very wrong to use this as any proof that they would not redenominate, and in fact, only further provide proof that they need to reduce the money supply by redenominating.

[size=13]Sorry, but he is incorrect here as well. The rate of the IQD in Dec of 2001 was not a real rate at all. It was an artificial rate created by the Saddam regime, which also at one point had created a rate of $3.50 (and which also wasn't real). Therefore, he cannot use these numbers to make his argument. The simple fact is that the UN devalued the currency to a REAL number when they entered the country. It has grown from roughly 4000:1 to the current 1170:1 during the last 7 years. Now they are ready to remove the large notes and take it back to the early 1980s value of $3.50, or more.[/size]


10. The CBI has stated “both currencies will co-exist” and the process will not change the “monetary value” of the dinar.
This is entirely possible depending on the exchange process. Romania for example did the same thing, and Iraq even used Romania as one of the examples or models to their plans. There was a time, for about 18 months, where during the exchange period people would be able to use either the old or the new currency for a period of time, and prices were adjusted based on if they paid with the old or new currency, moving the decimal over on the price. Please see the link below that shows an example of a price tag in Romania based on the ROL (old currency) or the RON (new currency).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Romania_revalue_tag.jpg


The CBI themselves used Romania as an example of what they intend to do. NO, THEY DID NOT!
If the intent here is to prove that a redenomination cannot happen, then unfortunately, I think that there will need to be a better attempt at it than this, and a bit more solid proof than this that is for sure.
I do believe that maybe they can just revalue without needing to redenominate, and that is what I hope for in this as everyone else, I am in this to gain just like everyone. While I do hope for the very best though, I also need to be honest with myself, and everyone else. I think giving hope is a wonderful thing, but distorting the facts, or the truths to give hope is not the way to go about it though.
Kap's intentions may be sincere, and I truly hope that is the case, but I think that in order to be fair, and to be honest with his members, he should either show some real proof that a redenomination cannot happen, proof much stronger than this, or openly admit that it really is a very strong possibility that we all should keep under consideration, and think about.

[size=13]Both currencies (large and small notes) can co-exist with a revaluation. However, with a redenomination that is not possible unless the value of the 3 zero notes is reduced, which Iraq is on records stating will NOT happen. If you redenominate then a 50 dinar note would be worthless. If you revalue, then a 50 dinar note will be worth $150 and a 25,000 dinar note will be worth $75,000, which means that the"monetary value" will not change. They will remain at parity to each other (in the same proportion) except revalued. This would NOT be the case in a redenomination. [/size]



[b]3's Member JstBringIt Bank Story: I mentioned this in the chat, but thought I would post here since I see the category for it. I bank at BBT in SC and have went there to get all of my cashier's checks when ordering from safedinar.com. All the ladies in there call me by name when I go in as I run a small business and am in there frequently. When I went in to get a cashier's check for my last order Monday of last week, there was a line, so it took me a few minutes.

The teller counter runs through a wall and has one end enclosed in an office, but it has plenty of windows. This bank has glass wall offices for the most part so you can practically see from one end to the other. As I stood in line, I noticed that there was work going on inside the office that the teller desk ran through.

A guy was squeeguing (sp) a window and I assumed he was cleaning it. As I moved up, I suddenly saw him put up a sheet of wallpaper covering the window. As I got to the counter, the teller that helped me is married to a guy I went to high school with, so I felt like I could ask her......as she took care of my cashier's check, I asked her if that (pointing to the office) was for this. She looked at me with the most blank look I have ever seen in my life and said for what? I explained slightly, but she continued this blank stare.
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[b]PTR Member Nanna48 Bank Story: We have the codes in place payout instructions e-mails from the government and we are still in the dark. I really dont have more info I wish I did, but I promise the screens went from 000086 whatever and now all zeros including the other currencies

In 12 years banking I have never seen this happen this way. Monday am if there arent rates we cannot do anything but deposit and cash local checks. On a normal business day we transfer $ around the world exchange $. Something is happening.

2 sides to a screen old rate on one side exchange on the other thursday before last one side went zeros but the 000086 was still there. now both sides are zeros on all foreign currencies

I work at a bank I have seen it over and over hoping it will pop up big #s. No gurus at my bank sorry just Tx blank screens seen with my eyes. still dont know whats going to happen though. [/b]

11/26/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

Guru OkieOilman (via Bulldog75):  THE IQD IS NOW THE MOST VALUABLE CURRENCY IN THE WORLD AS PER RUMOR OUT OF KUWAIT. IF THAT'S THE CASE, THE OTHER COUNTRIES, MAY BE USING THE IQD AS A CATALYST TO DETERMINE THEIR COUNTRIES' RATES WITHIN AN IMF NEGOTIABLE RANGE. FACT: EACH COUNTRY IS A SOVEREIGN COUNTRY AND HAS SOME INPUT AS TO THEIR VALUE WITHIN 'REASON AND RANGE' AS STIPULATED BY THE IMF; AND 'AGREED UPON WITH IMF'. "GLOBAL CURRENCY RE-ALIGNMENT" IS TO TAKE PLACE SOON TO NOW WITH 'ACTIVATION' BEING THE KEY OF 'ALL CURRENCIES'. THIS IS IN A STATE OF 'VALUE DETERMINATION', SINCE WE NOW HAVE ALL '0000' ON THE 'BUY / SELL POSTING'. WE ARE IN A 'STATIC MODE OR STATE OF FLUX' UNTIL RATES GET POSTED. WE CAN STILL SEE THE 'ACTIVATION' ANY MINUTE, HOUR, OR DAY BECAUSE CURRENCIES HAVE TO HAVE A 'VALUE'. SINCE THERE IS NO BUY/SELL RATE THERE HAS TO BE A DETERMINING FACTOR SOON SO THE CURRENCY CAN MOVE ON THE 'BUY/SELL MARKET RATES'. AS PER OKIE IN ECONOMICS COURSE 2.0, ONE CANNOT HAVE CURRENCIES WITH 00.0000 BECAUSE THAT IS A VALUELESS COMMODITY; AND THEIR CAN BE NO INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGE OF CURRENCIES UNTIL THERE IS A VALUE. THIS SHOULD MOVE SOON. CURRENCIES HAVE TO RE-ALIGNED AT SOME 'ASSIGNED VALUE' AT SOME 'ASSIGNED TIME'. CURRENCIES CANNOT OPERATE AT ZERO BUY/SELL. THERE HAS TO BE A 'VALUATION PLACED ON THE CURRENCIES'. IQD WILL BE USED AS A COMPARISON RATE! IF CURRENCIES HAD NO ASSIGNED VALUE, THE MONEY WOULD BE WORTHLESS, AS PER OKIE, ECO 2.0 ! WHAT ONE IS SEEING NOW, IS AN ANNOMOLY, SOMETHING LIKE NO ONE HAS SEEN BEFORE IN ONE'S LIFETIME.,,

WE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT A 130+ COUNTRIES. UNTIL THE IMF/BIS POSTS THE COUNTRIES' RATES, NO ONE CAN ACT ACCORDINGLY TO BUY/SELL, THIS STATE OF FLUX MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY. THE COMPLEXITY IS ALMOST BEYOND MOST MEN'S MINDS DUE TO THE VASTNESS COMPLEXITY OF GLOBAL MONETARY/CURRENCY RE-ALIGNMENT, ONCE IN A LIFETIME". "IMF/BIS IS FEELING THEIR WAY THRU THIS AND THEY ARE HOPING THAT THEY GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. IF THEY DON'T, THERE WILL BE FUTURE ADJUSTMENTS MADE SHORTLY THEREAFTER THE REALIGNMENT AND RATE ACTIVATION. WHAT WE ARE WITNESSING, IS THE GREATEST TRANSFER OF WEALTH IN HUMAN HISTORY. WE ARE WITNESSING HISTORY AS WE SPEAK." OKIE: "I SEND MY BEST WISHES, PRAYERS AND LOVE TO EVERYONE. I APPRECIATE BULLDOG75 HELPING ME WITH TONIGHTS POST. IF NECESSARY IN THE FUTURE, I WILL GIVE A COURSE IN ECONOMICS 3.0 . MY PRAYERS ARE SENT TO EACH OF YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART. GOD BLESS U ALL AND GOD BLESS AMERICA."

"BULLDOG75 WILL IMMEDIATELY POST MY INFO THAT COMES IN RAPIDLY BECAUSE OF MY CONTACTS. BULLDOG IS THE EYES AND HANDS OF OKIE. NUFF SAID. GOOD NIGHT TO ALL".

'ADDENDUM: CLARIFICATION' : "AN OMISSION OCCURRED ON MY PART EARLIER THIS MORNING IN OUR PREVIOUS POST IN ESSENCE TO MY EXPLANATION REGARDING ALL COMPUTERS BEING ZEROED OUT/SETTING AT ZERO. COUNTRIES ARE UP AND OPERATING AT THE OLD PROGRAMMED IMF RATE AWAITING NEW GLOBAL CURRENCY RE=ALIGNMENT. NO ONE EVER EXPLAINED WHY THE COMPUTERS ARE SET AT ZERO. 'THE UNKNOWN VOLATILITY FACTOR' TO BE DECIDED OCCURS WHEN THE RATES ARE POSTED. STOCKS, BONDS ARE AT BARGAIN BASEMENT PRICES RIGHT NOW AND LINING UP FOR THE INVESTOR. LAST WED THE USA NOW SEES A 15 TRILLION DEFICIT. THERE IS NO HISTORICAL PRESIDENCE FOR WHAT IS OCCURRING NOW. THERE IS A MESS THAT MAN HAS MADE IN THE PAST AND WE ARE EQUALIZING THE PLAYING FIELD TO MAKE A HIGHER STANDARD OF LIVING. HERETOFORE, WE ARE TRYING TO ELEVATE THE THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES TO A MORE EQUAL REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY. BE SAFE."

THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE LOOKING AT THIS AS ' A WINNING LOTTERY TICKET' WITH ONE CHANCE AT THE GOLDEN RING. WE NEED TO STOP AND TITHE AND ADJUST. WE NEED TO BE ASTUTE. WE NEED THIS AS SEED MONEY TO ACCOMPLISH EVEN MORE FOR FUTURE INVESTMENTS. THIS IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OCCURRENCE.


Guru Jonnywg:   Good Morning my friends. A no sleep night but we did get a little info. I will make a full report shortly after i get into the back screens at the bank within an hour. Admittedly I am concered about the effects of the current sitution on you and your reactions. REMEMBER they can do whatever they want to stall it with unseen mercenaries but hell or high water it activates for MONDAY because all contractors and in iraq personel get paid with rv'd money. I will report again when i get the bank screens.

 we have had no more hickups to date. ALL looks arranged and in line for tomorrow...the cbi update Mon AM is the logical step but any time after 2pm tomorrow is the time frame we are hearing.

We have just verified that the UST has been called in this 6AM and we will try to verify how long they are expected to stay. We know that the BANK SCREENS are $00.000 on both the BUY and SELL RATES thus over 100 coutries cannot be cashed or traded. THIS CANNOT REMAIN THIS WAY. there are no transactions unless at the old posted rates which is a huge risk. More info re SHABIBI to come later and hopefully info re delay this weekend. we have also verified that USA contractors in USA will get deposits in RV'D currency values.

we did get a little info. I will make a full report...after i get into the back screens at the bank...REMEMBER they can do whatever they want to stall it with unseen mercenaries but hell or high water it activates for MONDAY because all contractors and in iraq personel get paid with rv'd money.

WELL MY FRIENDS THIS IS NOT THE ANNOUNCEMENT EXPECTED. But we have to face reality. I will always put it out the way we hear it. I have been informed that an unknown to me group is trying to delay the RV to Sunday evening/ Monday AM. We do not know why but we hear that it is because all states cannot cashin on Saturday and Sunday. THIS IS NOT VERIFIED AS YET and still gives us a Monday cashin. I have made many calls trying to get more info but cannot at this time.  I will report more info as it comes. Personally I hope it is smoke and misinformation but felt a responsibility to tell you.


Guru BWM:   confirmation that those that want to tell you it's O causing the problem right now have smoke in their eyes or inhaled heavily...not to say that he (o) hasn't been in the past...but isn't this weekend...sleep well tonight... not looking for this window tonight... not saying it couldn't "pop" out of the blue but expecting tomorrow to be a better day/evening for windows to look at.

This RV is not like a normal RV because of the participation of so many "external" factors needing to get into this... so going thru the process isn't really in order... this is ready to go and on somewhat of a "timing" situation.  It’s really been quiet... still looking at about a nickel (VND)... BUT depending on the order of things could go a bit higher.  I don't play the percentages... but let me just I say I feel REALLY good about this window tomorrow night/Monday morning.  I'm still hearing more in the high 3's to 5 for rates.... but again we are dealing with bank rates and we won't know until this is announced.

I don't have the pre RV money to get setup with the things I'd like so I'll be playing along with the rest of you. I'm pretty sure the bank will have pens... take a couple home with you, you deserve it.


Guru FreewayBill: You who are in concern do not be. Nothing bad has happened. You could not cash in till Monday anyway. Stay calm and the blessing will come to you.  Just enjoy this beautiful weekend and everything else that the Lord has provided.   Monday sometime looks good.  Stay stoked people. Bbl with whatever we find out today. God Bless....  


Guru Bluedog:  The flurry of articles of lifting the zeros and the Iraqi dinar will have value..... how many have we seen in the last 2 weeks I have seen 38 or so when have we seen this number of articles on that subject...... we have seen them trickle out before but not like now.


Guru Bear5642:   WELL SCOTTIG I LOOK FORWARD WITH GREAT EXPECTATION NEXT WEEK AND OH BY THE WAY THAT NEW CAR YOU WANT IS ON ME IM PICKING UP THE TAB ON THAT ONE MY FRIEND THOUGHT I WOULD MAKE THAT PUBLIC 

JUST A WORD OF CATION PLEASE DONT ACT ANY DIFFERENTLY AND TRY TO DISUISE YOURSELF OR ACT SOME SECRET SERVICE AGENT. YOU WILL DEFINATELY DRAW ATTENTION TO YOURSELF AND ALSO LOOK LIKE A BLOOMING IDIOT

I FOR ONE AM AND WILL BE EXTREMELY CAUTIUOS IN WHO I SHARE MY NEW FOUND WEALTH WITH AND I WILL GO WITH SCOTTIG GROUP POST RV 100%

ALL OF MY SOURCES ARE POITNING TO TUESDAY WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY AND I HAVE SOMEONE ARRIVING IN IRAQ THIS AFTERNOON AND WILL GIVE...A REPORT OFF THE STREETS...I CAN TELL YOU SO FAR NO LOWER DENOMS ARE ON THE STREETS OF IRAQ...WE HAVE BEEN RIGHT ON EVERY DELAY AND PROJECTION...AND...WE FEEL THAT THIS IS DONE AND WILL COME TO COMPLETION BY EARLY NEXT WEEK...[still thinking the 4.40 range] OR A LITTLE LOWER.


Guru Lightbeam:  SouthernLawya some of the first contractors prior to the rv were paid in a "negotiated" rate knowing it would rv, ok? Monday there is a Contractor who is based in the UNITED STATES .... and his contractreads he WILL be paid in RV currency.... and we can even do the math on that....to get a rate....that is a HUGE difference.....   if I am wrong, correct me....this is what I know to be a fact....woulda been great to see this yesterday ofcourse.....but MONDAY works for me....this Contractor will be paid in the US...money in his account on MONDAY. Can't hang our hat on ust that---there is more intel that points to that.....such as, we have 132 UNHAPPY countries right now....and I asssume you all know Maliki flew to Japan just to calm them down and assure them this rv was on the way???? My 2 cents worth...hope it helps....


Guru BGG: Stop the madness!! It's just not right - and if anyone is guilty (if even a little unwittingly) - it's me - I'll admit...but it didn't take me more than a couple of times to recognize something in the info stream was amiss. We can manage to be uplifting and positive without agreeing with all this nutty stuff. I'll just bet we can find a way.

No one - and I mean no one - knows for sure. We have seen indicators - but this is going to be a very, very, very closely guarded secret (as to the exact timing). Once Dr. Shabibi gives the OK for the rate to go to the BIS - it will go from the CBI to the BIS who will then have 24 hours to disseminate the information the various Central Banks of the world. Once they load the rate and give the final "go-ahead" it will be an immediate process - not over days or a weekend. Immediate - like 15 seconds. Then the Central Banks will move that rate through their systems - which may take a little while but not the kind of time we are hearing. It will also be very quick - speed is part of the integrity of the system.

I'll bet - and this is just a guess....that Dr. Shabibi's first assistant has no clue as to the timing of this event. Not a clue. It's that much of a secret.

So what chance does a currency teller - staring at a screen at least four steps down the chain of events - have to "fore tell" this event??? [BGG] Here's an idea. 1) Tell the truth 2) Tell folks to hang in there 3) and enjoy your day!! What a simple formula!!  




Guru Poppy3:   everyone will know within 10 min of one anther when the RV hits with or without being online. Poppy3

Just shows where when america works and unemployment is extremely low and bringing in 7 or 8 million more people working paying taxes then the speed at which we grow wealth is very fast. Put the 13 million illegals out and create those jobs, bring the troops home put them on the borders with shoot to kill anyone crossing and get all illegals from any where off the medical rolls and watch this country get back on track and out of debt in 5 years or less. Start pumping our own oil fields again the money will flow and profits will soure. Shame of it all is every peoson running there is not one with the guts to take a stand and get it done. They also should spend every dollar from the dinar directly on the national debt.


DV Member JayP:  There was a post that was made by Kaperoni that I would like to address. I am not sure why he would post the things that he did here, as all of the reasons he posted just have no merit, and can easily be proved as false. I understand that it is important to keep site traffic in order to sell products to make money, but not at the expense of misinforming people about this investment, which can put a new investor that may not know better at financial risk.
I have posted a response for each of the reasons he provided. Please see my responses in Blue. I sincerely hope that I can clarify some of the misunderstandings that his post may have caused.

10 reasons why the IQD will not LOP

1. Monetary policy was a success talking inflation from 35% or higher to around 7% currently.
This is true, that the policies have in fact reduced inflation, so I will give Kap a nod on that one, but what is not true, is that this is a reason it will not redenominate. Let’s first make a distinction here, that there is no such thing as a “lop”, and it is just a made up word. The correct terminology is a redenomination, and a lop is NOT a devaluation, nor is a redenomination a devaluation.

That being said, historically, when a country redenominates, it is usually done as a sign that the inflationary period has ended, and why they usually will redenominate after hyper-inflation, not generally during that hyper inflationary period. In fact, it is more of a psychological thing than anything, as well as to ease the cash transactions with the smaller numbers. Now the important thing to keep in mind, is that this does not mean that high inflation cannot occur after a redenomination also, because it could, as it has happened in prior redenominations as well. A redenomination is not meant to resolve inflation, therefore this reason simply does not prove what he is trying to say.

2. Any type of currency devaluation (LOP) is considered a failure of monetary policy. Dr. Shabibi has not failed.

As stated in response to #1, a redenomination does not mean a devaluation. This is a statement that is simply NOT true. In fact, once a redenomination has occurred, the consolidated value of the Dinar could very well be just under, equal to, or over the dollar. For example, if a Dinar is currently .00086:1, then a 25K note is worth about 21.5 USD, and then in a case of a redenomination, if they were to move the decimal over 3 places, it would apply to all things the same, prices, rates, accounts, etc, therefore the new rate can potentially be .86, therefore after the decimal is moved over 3 places, 25 new dinars, would still be worth 21.5 USD. This shows NO devaluation has occurred, and the strength of the new currency has not changed once the zeros are deleted, just as they have stated in those articles we read.
In a redenomination, it would not mean Shabibi has failed, only succeeded in his plans that he has been saying he wanted to do all along. It is the govt right now that does not want him to follow through on his plans to redenominate at this point for reasons they gave of fears of corruption or counterfeiting in the process.

3. Lesser value notes in circulation such as 50, 250, 500. Devaluing the larger 3 zero notes would make them worth less than these lesser notes.

This is an interesting one, one that had me thinking when Kap started with this theory almost a year ago. Unfortunately, this holds no water, as in a redenomination, they do not just redenominate some notes, and not others. When they talk about the 3 zeros, what this actually means is the movement of the decimal point over 3 places. This would apply to all notes, accounts, prices alike. Please look up the terminology for a Homogenous function. You will see the definition of this there. You will also find that this is a term that is used in these 3 zero articles explaining the process as well. Please see the link below and you will see where it uses this term in the explanation of the process:

http://iraqdinar.us/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=28096

Now, here is a definition of Homogenous:
1: of the same or a similar kind or nature
2: of uniform structure or composition throughout homogeneous neighborhood>
3: having the property that if each variable is replaced by a constant times that variable the constant can be factored out :having each term of the same degree if all variables are considered homogeneous equation>
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homogeneous

Here is another good explanation:
http://www.economics.utoronto.ca/osborne/MathTutorial/HOMF.HTM

4. Iraq wants the dinar to be an international reserve currency. Cannot devalue the notes in reserve (25,000), circulate them as payment, or traded amongst countries.

First, in this response, please see my response to #2. If the CBI were to redenominate, that does NOT mean a devaluation. That is 2 different things, but something those that want to distort the facts do not want you to realize.

2nd, the rate does not determine tradeability. Last I checked, the Vietnam Dong at 21,000:1 is as good as any other currency, just takes a whole lot more Dong to do business with it. So I have to say, this reason, holds as much value as the Dinar or the Dong does right now!

5. Iraq holds arguable the second largest oil reserves and is mineral rich. They are too wealthy to not honor the value stated on the notes.
Are they wealthy with the Oil reserves, and mineral rich, sure, I will give him a nod on this one as well, but that does not mean that they would not redenominate. The determination to redenominate is not based on Oil reserves, and even if so, having the oil, and getting the oil out of the ground is 2 different things. In either case though, I disagree that there is so much Oil that they can just revalue 1000x the amount or more than they are at right now, not without reducing the money supply first, and this was even stated by the CBI themselves.

6. Iraq has stated..They want the “strongest currency in the Middle East” Any such type of LOP would be a devaluation and therefore not considered strong.

This again goes back to #2. A redenomination is NOT a devaluation. Prove that they are the same thing, and then this is something to consider, until then, I think that we should be a little more realistic.

7. US holds dinar as a result if funding the CBI initial reserves. This dinar will eventually payoff the war debt.

All I can say about this, is show the proof. I will be willing to entertain this idea, if someone, anyone can show any shred of evidence of this to be true.

Let me provide the link below:
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/tic/Documents/mfh.txt

This is from the US Treasury website showing the US Foreign Reserves. You will see that it does not indicate anywhere in here that is shows IQD holdings. There is a group called Oil Exporters. If you notice the 3/ next to the name that refers to the #3 at the bottom and it reads:
“3/ Oil exporters include Ecuador, Venezuela, Indonesia, Bahrain, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Algeria, Gabon, Libya, and Nigeria.”

This means that the amount shown in the row for Oil Exporter nations consist of the combined holdings of all of those nations currency. So unless proof can be given that we hold as much Dinar as some would like to say, this is speculation at the very best, and nothing more. Using this as a basis as to why they would not redenominate would simply be wrong, and I hardly think that a guess at something should ever be used as proof of something, especially when the proof itself is not verifiable. I challenge everyone to ask Kap this question, and I would be willing to bet you would get banned for even asking the question. I know, because I did.. lol!!

The other point I would like to make on this is that, even if we did hold Dinar, if they were to redenominate, as I stated in prior responses, this would not be a devaluation, therefore it would not mean any loss for the US reserves, but it would also mean that it would not be paying for any wars, and for those that may have heard of the wars will pay for themselves rumors, this is not true, and Bush never said those words. I would challenge anyone to provide proof of the quote if they do believe this. In fact, I can provide you with precisely where I believe that rumor came from. It was actually a statement made by Wolfowitz in 2003 talking about Iraq using Oil to pay for their own reconstruction, and I believe some guru out there twisted this quote to what the rumor has become today, like a tall tale over the years.

Here is the quote:  Wolfowitz: “We’re dealing with a country that could really finance its own reconstruction.” As Think Progress noted, then-Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz testified before Congress on March 27, 2003, that “the oil revenues of that country [iraq] could bring between 50 and 100 billion dollars over the course of the next two or three years. Now, there are a lot of claims on that money, but that’s — we’re not dealing with Afghanistan that’s a permanent ward of the international community. We are dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction and relatively soon.”

8. One of the authors of the currency exchange plan – Assistant Professor Dr. Fadel states in his documentation, “We must emphasize the extremely important issue is that if you remove three zeroes from the currency should not affect the actual value thereof to be trading in the old currency…

Yes this was said, but please note what I stated in response to #2, in a redenomination, there is no affect on the purchase power, so I believe this to be accurate. In other words a 25K note worth .00086, and a 25 dinar note worth .86, they BOTH equal 21.5 USD, so a redenomination does NOT affect the actual value of their wealth, so this is no proof at all that they will not redenominate.

”9. In 2003 when the NID was introduced at it’s initial rate, the previous currency was in essence devalued taking all wealth from the country to prevent funding of terrorism. Raising the currencies value will in essence, return that wealth now that the GOI is stable and economic conditions have improved.

I am sorry, but this one really is laughable. The fact of the matter, is that this one, is absolutely untrue and inaccurate. In fact, let me provide some proof that I have that proves this one to be untrue.

Please see the below link:
http://treasury.un.org/operationalrates/Details.aspx?code=IQD¤cy=Iraqi+Dinar&country=Iraq

This goes back to Dec 2001. Please see the rate as of Dec 2001: 2023:1 .. yep, that is Dec 2001, well before the NID was introduced, or before we even ever invaded Iraq. The fact and reality is that the currency was being devalued years prior to the NID. In fact, the rate right now is almost twice as high as it was back then PRIOR to the new notes being changed. This was due to inflation, and why the amount of dinars that were being printed were printed. So it would be very wrong to use this as any proof that they would not redenominate, and in fact, only further provide proof that they need to reduce the money supply by redenominating.

10. The CBI has stated “both currencies will co-exist” and the process will not change the “monetary value” of the dinar.

This is entirely possible depending on the exchange process. Romania for example did the same thing, and Iraq even used Romania as one of the examples or models to their plans. There was a time, for about 18 months, where during the exchange period people would be able to use either the old or the new currency for a period of time, and prices were adjusted based on if they paid with the old or new currency, moving the decimal over on the price. Please see the link below that shows an example of a price tag in Romania based on the ROL (old currency) or the RON (new currency).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Romania_revalue_tag.jpg

The CBI themselves used Romania as an example of what they intend to do.

If the intent here is to prove that a redenomination cannot happen, then unfortunately, I think that there will need to be a better attempt at it than this, and a bit more solid proof than this that is for sure.
I do believe that maybe they can just revalue without needing to redenominate, and that is what I hope for in this as everyone else, I am in this to gain just like everyone. While I do hope for the very best though, I also need to be honest with myself, and everyone else. I think giving hope is a wonderful thing, but distorting the facts, or the truths to give hope is not the way to go about it though.

Kap’s intentions may be sincere, and I truly hope that is the case, but I think that in order to be fair, and to be honest with his members, he should either show some real proof that a redenomination cannot happen, proof much stronger than this, or openly admit that it really is a very strong possibility that we all should keep under consideration, and think about.


Guru Kaparoni:  JayP, I don't need to discredit you, you do it yourself with your own statements that are contradictory. What you do is interpret statements the way you think they should be interpreted rather than what the correct interpretation is. You forget, I have an Arabic translator friend. Not some software off the internet. The truth is...The CBI is is making a comparison to the purchasing power to explain to the citizens what it will be like post RV, not telling them their currency is devaluing. That is where you try to sit and convince the masses there is LOP or re-denomination. And that is where you are wrong. They could or would never take the wealth from the people after they already took it in 2003. Your common sense lacks common sense.
Dr. Fedel is also a friend of mine. Yes, he actually is as we correspond. And once again, you are wrong. He, like others, have made reference to Turkey, etc as to the procedures of a currency change, never has he referred to the actual event. Again, you twist it to your liking to imply your results.

As well, when or where have I guaranteed results on the dinar? Again more lies by you. I simply clarify the many articles and documents out to give factual evidence. You don't, yours is nothing but a theory, full of holes, misguide information and lack of fact....and bad at that. And if you must know, I am more worried about the GOI failing (hence a collapse of polices) than the notes ever devaluing.

You must be confusing me with some other gurus. Never once do i talk about contracts in dinars. In fact, If asked, often state that all contracts are written in USD as well as the Budget, and employee pay. Their main source of income is USD, therefore it makes sense to price accordingly. Again, your creating lies.

Oh by the way, you should clarify that you did not come into xxxxxxxxxx chat room to discuss this matter with me, to learn the facts, you came in with a fake name to disrupt the room directly after a chat to cause as much trouble you and Tenmillion (also using a fake name) could, with with as many people as you could. Big difference pal. Why did you do that? Because you were already banned by the site admin for doing it before. Therefore, you hold me responsible for your behavior? Laughable. Or how about the little emails you send around? Like to my friend at Douchebag site? Is that your way of trying to talk directly with me and learn? You see i know a bullchitter when i see one....and your full of it.

My advise, get yourself a good Arabic translator to give you the correct interpretation of what the CBI is teaching the people of Iraq. That way, you can come on your little site and educate people rather than scare or misguide them. Oh that's right, that's why you put this nonsense on other sites, cause you have no one who wants to hear it on Tens? What she got 200 members? How is that peeps come to my site after posting a response on your site only to find it has been deleted because it was not to your liking? That does not seem like your educating anyone..but spoon force feeding them BS and non-sense.

Oh btw, I don't own chit on xxxxxxxxxx, I simply agreed to come and teach people (for free in might add). You might want to get that fact correct as well before you tell others more lies. How much money have you and Ten made of her little site with them ads? What a joke.


Guru ScottiG:  So many tidbits all saying that the glitches...are resolved and the different aspects and phases of this release of adjusted currency is ready to go into the global banks. From Jordan to Kuwait the banks are ready. We await confirmation from boots on the ground to let us know when this adjustment will hit the marketplace and vendors in Iraq. As stated we already have confirmation that the GOI is to pay staff and employees in adjusted IQD. Contractors have been paid at $3.75 - $4.11. We are in the middle of the RV unleashing. It started week before last and it hit a small stall and then it kept unfolding. We are seeing the banks, exchanges and cash ins. This is not rumor. This is real. we are there.


Guru Med:   FIRST THE NEWS LEAKED ABOUT A LARGE DENOM WORTH X AMOUNT, WHAT THIS WAS WAS AN EXPLANATION THAT IT IS NOT A 50K NOTE BUT THAT ONE OF THE NEW DENOMS WILL BE A 50D AND IT WILL BE WORTH THE CURRENT EQUIVALENT OF 50,000 DINAR TOTAL.  IF THEY HAD ONLY DISCUSSED A NEW 20K NOTE OR 100K NOTE, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE ONLY ADDRESSED THAT, THAT THE NEW NOTES WILL EQUAL THIS AMOUNT BASED ON CURRENT RATE. ALL IT IS IS THE REMOVAL OF ZERO'S FROM THE NOMINAL VALUE, NOTHING MORE.  THEY GAVE OUT THE NEW RATE OF EXCHANGE BUT DIDNT GO INTO THAT IT WOULD BE THIS RATE FOR EVERY NEW DENOM WHICH IS A GIMME.  WHAT THEY DID WAS EXPLAIN THERE IS NO MORE LARGE DENOMS BEING PRINTED BUT THE NEW SMALLER ONES WILL HAVE A HIGHER VALUE AS IF YOU HAD CARRIED A LARGE ONE.


Newshound Bondlady:  Posting a Email I recieved I thought it was very good,****** The World Economy is Saved!!! ******11/26/11

The World Economy is Saved!!!
By Dene McGriff

The economy looks pretty bleak at the moment. As I have written in the last three articles, there is way too much money and debt sloshing around in the world, too many entitlements, too much complaining and too little production. Interest rates are increasing in Italy, Spain and even France. The debt/death spiral has begun. But what if I told you that we have a temporary fix? Just remember, you heard it here first. I’m not going to back this up with a bunch of links because no one is talking about it and no one is supposed to even know about it. This is hush-hush. But the “powers that be” are about to come upon trillions of new dollars.

Let’s all say it together: “Now wait a Wall Street Minute . . . how could that be?” Printing money and monetizing debt will only lead to ruinous hyperinflation. What you see is what you get. There is no unfound wealth left in the world and gold’s nearly at $2,000 per troy ounce. Ah, grasshoppers, but what if there is and you just don’t know about it? What if the government doesn’t want you to know about it?
 
What if this little secret changes the course of history?

Before I get to the meat of this, let me ask you a question: Just how did Bill Clinton not only balance the budget but come up with surpluses in his last couple of years in office? These surpluses were in terms of how the budget is computed. There were no real surpluses if you count unfunded liabilities.

Notwithstanding, for the first time in years, these “surpluses” showed up out of nowhere.

Now, let me ask you: Is that because President Clinton was such a frugal spender? Was it because Congress all of the sudden got fiscal religion and stopped spending? Sure, there were military cutbacks, but there was much more involved. The First Gulf War was paid for – not just by the Saudis but also by the Kuwaitis and America actually made a profit!

During the war the value of the Kuwaiti Dinar collapsed to pennies, but the U.S. and a few speculators accumulated hundreds of billions. There is no way of knowing exactly how much but that is the main source for the Clinton surplus. It took seven or eight years to see it, but it finally paid off. The dinar went from pennies to about $3.60 to one dinar, making it one of the most valuable currencies in the world!

When the second Gulf conflict began, Bush and Cheney assured us all thatthe war would pay for itself.

Bush set a plan in motion. When the first Gulf war began, the Iraqi Dinar was at $3.22 to one dollar. It dropped to a fraction of a cent and stayed there for the past two decades. The Iraqi Dinar is still absolutely worthless. It is currently at about 1280 dinars to the dollar. There are many other currencies that are worth much more than their current value, the most notable is China’s, the Yuan Renmimbi; which is worth about 6.8 to the dollar. China has a competitive advantage because it is keeps their currency at a low value. Another example is the Vietnamese Dong which is worth about one hundred dollars per million Dong. Many believe the value is more like 20 Dong to the dollar. That is quite a difference, i.e., 0.0001 vs. .20 – an astonishing differential.

Now, let’s shift gears back to the world monetary system for a moment before we come back to Iraq.

The International Monetary Fund (IMF) realizes that the system of fiat currency (worthless paper money) isn’t working because it is based on the “good faith” of the individual government printing the currency and governments have proved down through the ages they can’t be trusted. There is too great a temptation to deflate the value.

Meanwhile, there is a hue and cry to return to the gold standard because it at least bases value on something tangible and keeps government honest. The problem with the gold standard is that there isn’t enough gold to base a world economy on it. So, what to do?

Over the past few years the IMF has been working on complex formulas which would determine the value of a country’s currency based on their resources and productive capacity. This could mean agricultural, mineral or other natural resources or manufacturing output, intellectual resources (e.g. those who create technology) and so forth. The idea is to come up with objective, quantifiable criteria.

They are currently in the process of revaluing 133 national currencies. Some could go up and some could go down. If this were done on a fair basis, every country would get credit for whatever they produced and their currency would reflect that value.

Now let me ask you: What would happen if all of the sudden a currency worth next to nothing gained a tremendous amount in value? What if the Chinese currency suddenly went up by thirty percent? That would mean there is a lot more money in circulation. We see references in the news about how the IMF and the central banks are trying to come up with a scheme to inject needed cash into the system before the Euro-zone implodes. They have a plan but you will never know how they did it!

BABYLON ON THE TIGRIS-EUPHRATES RIVERS TO THE RESCUE
Now let’s go back to little Iraq. Iraq is one of the best kept secrets. Could it be that had something to do with two Gulf wars? Little Iraq is number three in the world in oil reserves. Only about one quarter of Iraq has been explored. Now they are up to about 40 percent and the amount of reserves continues to grow. The strange thing is that Saudi Arabia’s oil reserves never seem to go down even though they have been pumping oil like crazy for the past 100 years. When drilling for oil in Iraq, you are more likely to hit oil than water and it is sweet crude, the best in the world. Some think it will end up being number one in the world. It is already the first in natural gas. Iraq is also rich in minerals and has historically been the bread basket of the Middle East. It is the site of the original Garden of Eden with the Tigris and Euphrates rivers flowing through it year round. After decades of being ravaged by war, it can once again become a major agricultural producer.

So what does this mean? Based on IMF calculations, the value of the Iraqi Dinar should be around the $2+ range. This is not unreasonable considering other Middle Eastern oil producing countries average about $3 to $1. “So what?” you say. It is estimated that the U.S. government is holding 3.5 trillion Iraqi Dinar (IQD). If it were to revalue to the $3 level, that would be $10 trillion new found dollars (US)! Imagine what fun our legislators would have with that? Of course, they could pay down the national debt, but I suspect they would just rather spend it and look like heroes instead of balancing the budget. We can also safely assume that France, Germany, England and even the PIIGS are sitting on IQD. That would really help as well. But no one will ever say it in public.

Many countries will see their currencies go up. This has been alluded to in the news. This would certainly help solve the immediate crisis. It would inject much needed cash into the Euro-zone, America and the rest of the world. But will it solve the world economic problems? I seriously doubt it. In the short run but not in the long run. It may support a nice little recovery for a few years. That won’t deal with the problem of excess liquidity – too much money and in this case, even more of it sloshing around in the world. Our leaders have shown that rather than let banks and countries fail and restructure, as in “work the debt out,” instead, they pour more good money after bad, only greasing the pockets of the bankers and the elites. No wonder the “Occupy” movements are so upset!

You won’t read about this in the newspapers, CNN, CNBC, Fox or Bloomberg. This is a little secret the politicians will pull out to save the economy, save Obama and save their legislative posteriors. People will think they are brilliant and re-elect them. Currencies led by Iraq, China, Vietnam and a few others will revalue, injecting trillions into the world economy. This will put a temporary patch on Europe and even the US, only postponing the pain for a few more years.

Again, the revaluation of these currencies around the world is designed by the IMF (whose engagement is “international monetary policy”) to reflect tangible (minerals, resource assets) and intangible (intellectual, technological capital) worth of a nation’s currency – the more assets, resources and intellectual capital a nation possesses, the greater will be its currency’s worth…most nation states will find themselves in a strengthened currency (more valuable) – some, like Vietnam and Iraq will reap a bonanza. This temporary fix will alter the course of the elections.

This is just my little prediction. The IMF, the central banks and the governments of the world will ride high for a few more years while the real trouble brews in the Holy Land!
Dene McGriff


Dinar Updates Member Denergy: don't you question it when they talk about cash ins? Personally I don't believe anybody will be able to cashin until it has RV'd globally. What are your thoughts on that?  I just cannot understand, if they were cashing in in Kuwait or Iraq and we know that why wouldn't there be a run on the Dinar? Just wondering.     This whole group is just too smart - can't pull one over an these folks. Maybe a couple, but not 99.99% of em.


Dinarian Knucklehead:  Applying what I learned from people in the Dinar community. Which is what we should all do. I read this article and it caught my eye. Read something before about Iraq adjusting the wages soon. Could this be it. And if so, I added the Exchange Rate from 1991.  Best Regards, Knucklehead

Start the meeting of the Council of Representatives and the agenda includes the first and second readings of nine bills
Ali Abdullah – 26/11/2011 AD – 11:17 AM |

Began the morning session today under the chairmanship of the House of Representatives and the presence of Osama al-177 deputies,
According to the agenda for the meeting today, it will read the first and the second of nine draft laws.

A source in the Council in a statement quoted by the agency {Euphrates News} that the agenda for today’s session will include a “reading the first draft Provident Fund Act Customs and the first reading of a bill to support development projects and the first reading of the bill the second amendment to the law of the discipline of state employees and the public sector No. (14) for the year 1991 average. “

“The project will also include the first reading of bill Training Center, monetary and banking system and the first reading of the draft Convention on the Law of trade and economic cooperation and technical cooperation between the Government of the Republic of Iraq and the Government of the Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. ”
The source said, “will also include the agenda, the second reading of the draft law of seizure and confiscation of movable and immovable property belonging to the staff of the former regime , filtered, and the second reading of a bill to support small projects generating income and the second reading of a bill to exempt reserves of capital to the mixed sector companies and the second reading the draft law to stamp duty

Exchange rate info-
17 October 1982-1994?
hard peg, 1 Iraqi dinar = US$3.2169
 
Devalued by 5%. A currency confiscation occurred on 5 May 1993 as Iraq withdrew 25-dinar “Swiss print” notes from circulation (Iraq, decision of cabinet and Revolutionary Command Council, 2 May 1993). Notes were exchanged at 25 new dinars = 25 old dinars until 10 May 1993, but Iraq closed its borders to prevent foreign holders from repatriating the notes during the redemption period. After the period was over, the notes became worthless in areas controlled by the government of Saddam Hussein. The 25-dinar Swiss-print notes continued to be valid in Kurdish areas, which since the Persian Gulf War of 1991 had become de facto independent.RR: Managed float / parallel market. Multiple rates in 1982 and 1983.

"GCR Questions And Answers #2" - One Who Believes - 11.20.16

(Image: Magic 8 Ball saying multiple common Dinarland phrases both negative and positive such as "Don't Count on it" and "Signs Point to Yes")


GCR Questions And Answers #2

I have received some comments and questions from my latest GCR update.

First Up, Comment #1:

"RE: My GCR Feeling Update #3" - Anonymous Guest Post

I love that he says for me to put down the Magic 8 ball. I used to have one of those! However, as we move up to 5D, the so called Magic 8 Ball, or inner intuition/guidance is where we will be getting most of our answers. That is the place where you can count on truth. In the "outside" world, there is a whole lot of information based on other people's intentions, and their agendas. No matter how good you think you are, there will be those in the Outside World who are able to mislead you. What is true for you or not, can only be determined for certain, from within. With all that being said, I still love the interaction and reference to the infamous magic ball!

About Calling It For Saturday

While we can't always verify our inner knowing with outside proof, in this case it turns out, I can. We have a lot of people we trust for Intel in our World of Dinarland, but every single one of them gets their information from someone else who may or may not have an agenda. In that case it is Pot-Luck as to whether or not this is True information or wrong information for a good reason.

However, the exception to that second hand Intel, is Zorra, who is intimately involved in the whole process and knows all there is to know about the whole plan including the Republic and the CGR. He is an advanced being from Hollow Earth and has nothing but loving intentions for us, the Surface population of Earth. He will NEVER give false information for any reason, but instead, all you will hear is "I can't say." Maybe this is too much for some, but as time goes by, the existence of Hollow Earth, Inner Earth, and our Galactic Brothers and Sisters in Space, will be common knowledge

To get back to the question of my thinking that it was going to go on Saturday, and then it did not, Zorra can explain it. He had a conference Call today and it is full of Intel about The Republic, The presidency, Donald Trump, Hillary, and our future abilities such as breathing under water and the advanced technologies coming like anti-gravity and free energy systems.

This was their first Intel call on the new phone system and it had a few problems, but still it was full of valuable information. These are the links to listen to the call and to download it.

Call Re-Play:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/zorraofhollowearth/2016/11/19/zorra-of-hollow-earth-1

Call Download:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/zorraofhollowearth/2016/11/19/zorra-of-hollow-earth-1.mp3?localembed=download

I indexed the specific part that talks about the RV, which was Scheduled to go on Saturday, and then was cancelled today due to Cabal Minions interfering. You can hear it for yourself.

@ 0:19:30 Zorra Brings The RV Intel
@ 0:21:00 Zorra Says It Was Scheduled to go today, But Cancelled (Cabal Minions)
@ 0:22:00 Trump Is In awe of the two Beings present from Inner Earth
Etc.

Note: Call continues for nearly 2 hours and is well worth hearing.

This does in fact Validate that the date I "Felt" was actually true when I picked it. However, as I said above, we don’t always, or hardly ever, get exact proof of our predictions. However in this case I do have evidence.

Question:

"Q for One Who Believes" - Guest Post by Light Bringer

Dear One Who Believes,

Since your date has jumped ahead almost a week, how do you feel about the mass media announcements which were apparently scheduled for tomorrow (Sunday 11/20/16), as channeled from Prime Creator and reported by Freedom Club?

Answer:

I don’t think it will be announced. I am getting that it will happen after Black Friday week end. The RV should already be in progress by then, as it was expected to be this time as well.

Comment #2

Yosef, says it will go tonight, and I sure hope it does, but my Feeling is still for Friday the 25th. I can't help what I feel, if I could, I would change it to now.

The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that we don't know for sure when it will go. Every Intel provider has their own sources and expectations. Zorra Knows for sure, but won't say. I just add another perspective to the mix with my intuition, for your consideration. Take it or leave it, with no hard feelings from me. I love you all.

However, Friday the 25th, is the Date I FEEL it will go. Could it change? Yes, it has changed every time so far. But I do feel very good about this date. If I get a change in my Feelings, I will let you know.

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams

Signed: One Who Believes

Are YOU Involved in a GROUP SCAM?

The Group Vs. No Group Scam

There is a lot of miss/diss Information out there right now. I'll make this Short and Sweet:

Q: Are there legitimate groups?
A: Yes, but you can't get into them now.

Q: Are there other groups that I can get into?
A: Yes, but most of them will be arrested as soon as this goes and you will lose your money. They can NOT offer you more than you can get for yourself at the exchange center. How could they?

Q: Why would someone say that only groups will be exchanged?
A: They have a reason. (See Next Part)

How a Group Scam is set up:

Step 1) Make you believe that only groups will be exchanged

Step 2) Make some sort of offer or suggested a group to join.

Step 3) Ask you to send your Currency to them.

Step 4) Then when the RV happens, you get screwed.

Please Note These Important and Telling Points:

#1) The only time that a currency can’t be exchanged by you is if there is some sort of Government sanction against them or we are at war with them.

#2) If a Currency has sanctions against them, you can't buy them or hold them in your possession.

#3) If you can exchange US dollars for a currency, you can exchange that same currency for US Dollars. Duh!

#4) If you can travel to those countries, you can exchange with those currencies. Duh!

Now, ask yourself these questions: (Think for Yourself)

Are there sanctions against the currencies I am now holding? Yes____ No____

Are we at war with them? Yes____ No____

It is illegal for me to hold them at this time? Yes____ No____

Can I exchange US dollars for them (Buy Them) at the bank, airport exchange center, or on the net? Yes____ No____

Can people travel to those countries? Yes____ No____

Bottom Line

The bottom line is that you have to decide for yourself. This information should help you get clear on what is true and what is not. However, don’t take my word for it. Think it out for yourself. What makes sense to you and what doesn't. Call a bank or your currency dealer and ask them if the rate goes up can I still exchange back to USD? You already Know the answer!!!!

Signed: One Who Believes

The Un-Bonding of Zimbabwe's Financial Confidence 11/14/16

Anyone who knows Patrick knows that this poster OBVIOUSLY doesn't have a clue and is simply trying to rob all of YOU of your blessing and of the truth of who you are as a sovereign soul and unfortunately this slimy shit bag had to drag Patrick's name into it unwarranted and unfounded.

Don't fall for it, people.

We love Patrick and his wonderful family and won't stand for this blatant slander.

Own your POWER,

The Ice Cream Shoppe Boys

PS. Before any of you try to comment on my use of vulgarity, consider that I am speaking of a cabal agent. The same dark force that has enslaved YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY LINEAGE from birth. So yes unapologetically I repeat "slimy shit bag."


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BLESSINGS Mr. DaCosta & Patrick

I just wanted to take a moment to first say
CONGRATS for your new Bundle of Joy.

Enjoy that Baby as they grow so fast.

More importantly I want to express my gratitude for your Site. You have provided a wonderful avenue for the Community.

Yes, there is a mix of THE GOOD - THE BAD - & THE UGLY....but it has provided the opportunity for people to participate, to question, to learn and to be heard.

You have provided an invaluable service. You are a Grand Example of SERVICE TO OTHERS vs SERVICE TO SELF.

I wish you, your Families and the Community
all the many BLESSINGS OF HEAVEN.

NAMASTE

BODI


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Hi Patrick:

Please thank your father for writing Academic Zimbabwe Independent News. Both you and your father provide a lot of hope for people like me. Many times I have been very discouraged about whether or not the currency redemption is going to happen and many times you have posted info or sitreps that have restored my hope and kept me going. Thank you for your hard work and efforts in proving us all that read your site with the important info we need. Thank you for collecting everyone's emails in preparation for the one and only, long overdo, email that will bless all humanity. I patiently (and sometimes impatiently) sit by waiting for the long awaited TETELESTAI and/or 800 numbers to be emailed by you.

I myself am an America and currently reside in America. However I have spent a lot of time in many southeast Asian countries and I have many friends from the Philippines and friends currently living in the Philippines. I love to listen to them speak Tagalog even though I can't understand them. They are all wonderful people and I love to talk and associate with them. My heart goes out to the many Filipinos that have been through many difficult times because of the numerous Typhoons and resultant flooding that occurs quite frequently in the Philippines. They truly deserve to be beneficiaries of the RV/GCR and I hope their day of redemption is right around to corner.

Many thanks to you and your father for all you do in bringing us these much needed emails and sitrep posts on http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com.

Sincerely,

Don Carlos


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I stand with you and Patrick. In the short time we have been in contact, I can vouch for Patrick, not only for being a genuinely kind and caring soul, but also that he is not an intel provider. He simply posts articles that are emailed to him.

If it feels bad in your gut, it's not from God.

"Listen to your Na'au."

God bless Patrick and family in the PI.

Bewdah
MuKrew


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For Zim Holders

"A Tisket, a tasket, ZIM is in the Basket." I don’t know what all this chit chat about the ZIM is, but, I can tell the Believers that by my FEELING system, as well as many other reasons, if you are holding ZIM you are golden. I am not going to go into lots of detail at this late hour, but I will mention a few points for your consideration. Frankly, all I have to accomplish is to give you enough confidence to hold on to your ZIM, and go exchange it. So here are a few points to consider.

#1) Fair or Not, Currencies are handled differently in country and out of country. As an example, in Iraq, people could get several US dollars per Dinar, but over here in the USA, we can get up to a hundred dollars or more. Remembering that this is the international exchange plus Humanitarian money given to Americans to accomplish things here and throughout the World. The short answer is that over here we get higher rates due to some negotiation between countries etc. Don't argue, just accept that is how it is for us.

Again, fair or not, I remember an article a year or so back where Zimbabwe was buying back their currency at the rate of $5 per $100T note, or it was $5 per closed bank account and some lesser amount for the currency. I don’t remember exactly. You can probably look it up in the archives. It was quite a field day for the naysayers who claimed that the Zim was not only worthless, but had passed the date of redemption. However, it turns out that was an In-country move to get those large bill off the street. Fair? Not from what we know now, but this is World politics and financial strategy. Who knows why it was done, but the take away is that there are two strategies In-country and out of the country. So that means that whatever you read about In-Country money issues, know that does not necessarily apply to us, outside the country.

#2) The next important point is that these special currency redemptions were meant for Governments and special war reparation deals between countries. We were not supposed to be in on this deal. But we are, and so since the law MUST apply to all as it applies to the few, we got in on the deal. That may be why the other governments collected the big notes off the street, so that when they raised the value, to pay the foreign governments, the local people wouldn't get paid like a government. But we are getting paid like "Sovereign" governments. Lucky us!

#3) The rate may well have been very low "Back in the day" when many of us got in on this, but the rates have been going up ever since. It seems that I remember some penalty to the Cabal for holding this up, that for every day they prevented this from going, the rate paid to us all would go up and up, making us richer and richer than they were. Also, as mentioned by Yosef, and recently verified by Veritas, the Assets were recalculated and found to be way more than was ever thought, raising the value even more. See link:

"Questions for 11/13/16" - Veritas Report - 11.14.16

In his post, he not only verifies that the ZIM is a bond of high value, but that he actually saw the valuation reports himself. It would be good to review his post at the link above. However for now, here is a few Quotes from it:

"NEXT, I SAW THE UNDERGROUND SURVEYS OF THE NEW ASSETS OF ZIMBABWE. IMPRESSIVE. THE SURVEYS WERE ABOUT TO CAUSE SOMETHING ELSE SIGNIFICANT. THEY TURNED UP THE SECOND LARGEST DIAMOND MINE IN THE WORLD. THIS PROPELLED ZIMBABWE THROUGH THE ROOF. AMAZINGLY, THERE IS A REASON BEHIND THE HIGH RATES THAT YOU SEE PROJECTED FOR THE ZIM."

"THESE NEW CURRENCY REVALUATIONS ARE ALL BASED ON REAL ASSET VALUATIONS. ADD THIS TO THE FACT THAT IT IS A NEGOTIABLE BOND VALUE AND YOU HAVE A WINNER. I THINK MOST PEOPLE JUST DON'T REALIZE WHAT HAS HAPPENED WITH THESE NATURAL ASSETS IN ZIMBABWE."

"THE ZIM IS NOW THE HEART OF THE ENTIRE GCR HUMANITARIAN MOVEMENT."

#4) While there is so much more I could mention to support the ZIM such as it will be the reserve currency of Africa, etc., I will add just this: Zorra of Hollow Earth and Fisher of the Real Truth Call, have both, independently said that the ZIM is in the Basket and will have NO zeros removed. Like Bruce, Yosef, Tank, and Veritas, they also contend that the Zim Will be of extremely high value. Clearly they have no alterior motives or anything to sell. As a bonus point, I will also add that they wouldn't have set up special ZIM exchange centers if it were not in the basket and worth a lot of money.

The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that I don’t know what all the fuss is about on the ZIM. I don’t care what is printed in articles, or what is posted on these blogs. The ZIM is HUGE, and the most valuable Financial Instrument/Bond on the Planet. Of course just before we exchange there will be nay-sayers who do have an agenda, that come forth and try to shake your confidence and faith. Ignore them, for they cannot stop you anymore. You have ZIM, and You are going to the Exchange it, and That's that!

As far as the super high rates, I think that they are based on some high valuation in the first place, plus a Humanitarian Gift for projects, as a penalty to the Cabal, and some trade results since it is a bond. Who knows what it will turn out to be for you individually, but whatever it turns out to be, it will be light years ahead of every other currency on the planet. So Relax, you already have it made. Don't let anyone shake your confidence now.

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams

Signed: One Who Believes


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Top 10 Most Valuable Currencies in the World

Top 10 Most Valuable Currencies in the World

By
Jake Briscoe
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Aug 5, 2016




Most Americans have probably heard other people complain about the “weakness” of the American dollar. How can currency be weak? A weak currency is one with a value that has depreciated over time. When someone says that the American dollar is weak, they’re basically saying that the dollar isn’t worth very much. So, this begs the question: what are the most valuable currencies in the world? In this article, I’ll break down the top ten most valuable currencies in the world, discussing how they compare to the American dollar and how their given economies allow them to be so strong.

#10 – Brunei Dollar

The Brunei dollar has been in use since 1967 by the Nation of Burnei, as well as Singapore. The bill comes in denominations similar to that of the American dollar: B$1, B$5, B$10, B$50, and B$100. Although this currency is also spent in Singapore, it is predominantly used in the country of Brunei. Brunei is a sovereign state in Southeast Asia, and although it may be small, it has a fairly wealthy economy. The majority of their GDP comes from crude oil and natural gas production, and Brunei is actually the fourth largest producer of oil in Southeast Asia. Not only that, but the country has also recently tried to make itself a small hub for international travel, with Royal Brunei Airlines being founded during the mid-1970s. One Bruneian dollar is worth approximately .73 American dollar.

#9 – Australian Dollar

This next currency is a little less obscure. One Australian dollar is worth .76 American dollar. Although the Australian dollar is obviously used primarily in Australia, it is also used in Nauru, Tuvalu, and Kiribati. (It is also used unofficial in Zimbabwe.) Australia’s economy is as strong as you would expect from one of the wealthiest countries in the world, relying primarily upon the country’s banking, manufacturing, and mining. Australian notes come in denominations of A$5, A$10, A$20, A$50, and A$100. The notes themselves are pretty interesting, too. Australia was actually the first country in the world to implement a system of bank notes that were made of polymer. This unique note material means that Australian money is cleaner and easier to recycle than traditional paper money.

#8 – Canadian Dollar

Next on our list is the Canadian dollar, which is officially used by Canada and unofficially used by Saint Pierre and Miquelon. One Canadian dollar equals around .77 American dollar. The most commonly used denominations of the Canadian dollar are C$5, C$10, C$20, and C$50. (Canada has a $100 note, but it isn’t used as often as the other notes are.) Starting in 2011, Canada has put a polymer versions of these notes into circulation. The Canadian dollar is actually one of the most held reserve currencies in the world. Its popularity can be owed to Canada’s general economic and political stability. Although the value of the Canadian dollar has definitely decreased over time, Canada’s strong scientific and energy-based economy should keep the value of the currency stable for the foreseeable future.

#7 – Swiss Franc

Is there anything that the Swiss can’t do? The Swiss franc is the next valuable currency on our list, with a value of 1 Swiss franc per 1.03 American dollar. Swiss franc banknotes come in 10, 20, 50, 100, 200 and 1,000 denominations. The Swiss franc is characterized by its use of different colors in its banknotes, which are yellow, red, green, blue, brown, and purple. They’re obviously used in Switzerland, but they can also be found in Liechtenstein and Campione d’Italia as an official currency. The strength of the Swiss franc is almost a no-brainer. Switzerland is one of the wealthiest countries in the entire world, being home to a massive technology sector and a host of different major corporations, like The Swatch Group and Nestle.

#6 – Euro

Of course, you can’t have an article about currency without talking about the euro. The euro’s banknotes come in denominations of €5, €10, €20, €50, €100, €200, and €500. Although it may not be the most valuable currency on this list, the euro is definitely one of the biggest currencies on this list. The euro is used throughout the entire Eurozone, which contains over a dozen countries, including Austria, France, Germany, and Italy. For hundreds of millions of people across several different countries, the euro is the golden standard, so to speak. In terms of value, one euro is worth around 1.12 American dollar. The reach of the euro is its greatest strength, but it also serves as its greatest weakness. In 2012, the euro’s value dropped pretty significantly due to economic trouble in Greece and Spain.

#5 – British Pound

Finally, we are brought to the British pound sterling. Like the Canadian dollar and the euro, the pound is one of the world’s most frequently traded currencies. One pound is worth approximately 1.32 American dollars. Not only that, but the pound also holds the honor of being the oldest currency in the world that is still currently in use. Its use can be traced back as far as Anglo-Saxon Britain, which would make the pound around 1200 years old. The pound is used most frequently in the United Kingdom, as well as Guernsey, Isle of Man, and Jersey. British pound banknotes come in a variety of different denominations, with the most commonly used notes being £5, £10, £20, and £50. Like the euro, the British pound has lost a great deal of buying power over the years. However, it is still a global superpower as far as currencies go.

#4 – Latvian Lats

So, it may sort of be cheating to place the Latvian lats on this list. Why is that? Starting in 2013, Latvia has begun to phase the lats out in place of the euro. Today, it is technically not in use by any country. However, the lats still has value in both world and local exchange. Today, one lats is worth approximately 1.61 American dollars. Prior to being taken out of circulation, the lats came in banknote denominations of 5, 10, 20, 50, and 100 latu. As far as currency goes, the lats was pretty young — the first lats were introduced into Latvia in 1922. Originally, they were implemented as a replacement of the Latvian rublis, which was the currency used by Latvia immediately after they had won their independence from Russia. Although the lats will be dead within a few years, it still holds a great deal of value.

#3 – Omani Rial

This next currency is the first currency on the list to only be used by a single country. (I don’t think the lats really counts, considering the fact that it isn’t actually used by any country anymore.) The rial is only used in the country of Oman. One rial is equivalent to around 2.60 American dollars today. Its banknotes come in denominations of 100 and 200 baisa (which are like the cents to the Omani “dollar”) as well as 1/2, 1, 5, 10, 20, and 50 rials. Before the rial was implemented in Oman in 1970, the country had primarily used the Gulf rupee and the Indian rupee. Oman started to roll out coins in 1940, and it took a few decades for the new currency to fully take hold. The value of the rial is fairly stable, supported by Oman’s powerful oil and gas-based economy.

#2 – Bahraini Dinar

You may have noticed that a common theme among valuable currencies is an economy backed by the oil industry. The Bahraini dinar is sort of unique among the other elite currencies in that it doesn’t rely upon oil exports. The Bahraini dinar is only used in Bahrain, and it is valued at around 1 Bahraini dinar per 2.65 American dollars. The dinar comes in banknote denominations of BD 1/2, BD 1, BD 5, BD 10, and BD 20. Until 1965, however, Bahrain’s currency consisted entirely of coins, broken up into different denominations of “fils”. The Bahraini economy was the first post-oil economy to exist in the Persian Gulf. The bulk of its economy relies upon banking, financial services, and tourism. In 2006, reports showed that Bahrain actually had the fastest growing economy in the Arab world. The value of the dinar has benefited from this stable, diversified economy.

#1 – Kuwaiti Dinar

Finally, we are brought to the most valuable currency in the world: the Kuwaiti dinar. The Kuwaiti dinar is solely used by the people of Kuwait, and one dinar is worth a whopping 3.31 American dollars. Like the Bahraini dinar, the Kuwaiti dinar is broken up into different denominations of “fils”. Currently, Kuwaiti dinars can be found in banknotes of 1/4, 1/2, 1, 5, 10, and 20 dinars. During Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait in the 1990s, the Kuwaiti dinar was replaced by the Kuwaiti dinar, It has since been re-implemented, however. How is this dinar so strong? Kuwait actually possesses the fourth highest per capita income in the world, largely thanks to the country’s massive oil reserves. The mass majority of Kuwait’s exports consist of both crude and refined petroleum oils.

http://gazettereview.com/2016/08/top-10-valuable-currencies-world/

11/13/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

[size=16][b]Guru Bulldog75:   [/size][/b][size=16]"You all are going to have a Very, Very, Very Happy, Happy, Happy Monday!!!!!!!!!!!!! [/size]

WITHIN THE NEXT 6-48 HOURS WE "WILL PROBABLY" / "HIGH PERCENTAGE" SEE MANY DIRECTIONS TAKE PLACE ON BANK SCREENS. 

THIS MAY BE THE BEGINNING OF OUR SPECULATIVE INVESTMENT COME TO FRUITION WHICH MAY START AFTER MIDNIGHT. THIS IS A "GENTLE ENLIGHTENMENT". NOT A WARNING OR DECLARATION THAT IT WILL HAPPEN. REMEMBER: THE TREND IS OUR FRIEND!!!

WE ARE PLAYING CONSERVATIVE HERE; BUT KNOWLEDGE IS VERY POWERFUL.

MAKE NO MISTAKE, WE KNOW WHY WE ARE HERE SO ITS CRUCIAL THAT WE KNOW AS MUCH REASONABLE DETAIL AS POSSIBLE WITHOUT GOING OVER BOARD ON DETAILS.

SO CONSERVATIVELY I AM SAYING, IMHO, WE MAY SEE THE BANK SCREENS CHANGE IN THE NEAREST FUTURE WITH HIGH PROBABILITY OF A FINAL RATE POST. BUT WE ARE CAUTIOUS BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE BEEN HERE BEFORE. BUT............

THE CONDITIONS ARE NEVER BEEN CLEARLY SEEN. THE CONDITIONS ARE ALMOST AS GOOD AS THEY GET.

UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES, WE REVERENTLY WAIT WITH PATIENCE KNOWING THAT GOD MAKE THE FINAL CALL. WE COULD SIT HERE ALL NIGHT AND DISECT AND ANSWER DETAILS QUESTIONS...BUT THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE END RESULT WHICH SHOULD HAPPEN, SOON.. AND SOONER NOW ; RATHER THAN LATER. 

WE ARE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL STATEMENT. THE WORLD ECOMOMY NEEDS THIS NOW. SHABS NEEDS THIS NOW. THE WORLD NEEDS THE REVALUED DINAR AND ALL THE IRAQ RESOURCES. THE TIME HAS COME. 


Guru TNT Tony:    I have been on the phone all day with information from multiple agencies. EVERYONE is Happy! EVERYONE is Excited! Nothing has changed since Friday. I know you will have a great week! You MIGHT just have a FABULOUS MORNING! Everything is right on target and IN MOTION as we speak!


Guru Bluwolf:   believe it or not your RV is on the way…it will just pop up..all 156 countries will come up at the same time... both the IQD and the VND are in the basket and like I said from the beginning The VND will be coming in very high...I have a lot of confirmations...so be aware and on high alert


Guru Jonnywg:   I CANNOT  GUARANTEE  ...BUT TOMORROW LOOKS GOOD...BANKS SCREENS NOW SHOW 125 CURRENCIES IN BASKET...iraq is number #1, vnd #2... china #3 [on the list of currencies]...WE ARE NOT SURE THAT ALL WILL GO THROUGH MONDAY...MAYBE TUESDAY BUT WE WILL KNOW MONDAY...WE REALLY WATCH THE POLITICAL SIDE AND WE FEEL ALL IS DONE...I THINK A FREE FLOAT IF RV...MANAGED IF RI...my position...CBI BETWEEN NOW AND TOMORROW 8:00 AM...CASH INS TOMORROW OR TUESDAY

the bank screens are still adjusting...Bank screens for 125+ countries still show 0.000 and "uploading"...Each one is individual...and they have checks and balances as well.  When Italy, Greece, Spain started to fall, the rates changed...thus they had to do it again...it almost collapsed the world financial system...be thankful for China stepping in.

We will see today the proposed changes in the Iraqi system take place. Tomorrow the Iraqi government pays contractors and government employees in RV'D CURRENCY...so says SHABIBI...sometime today or early an tomorrow changes should be made in the rate published...this could be the day we are waiting for.  You never know till it happens but the stars are aligned...and the banks are ready. I AM NOT ALWAYS RIGHT BUT TRY TO PRESENT THE FACTS AS GIVEN...GOOD AND BAD...WE ALL DESERVE THAT...NO FRILLS.

I have been very dissapointed so far with the near misses. This time the last obstacle was the bankruptcy of several countries and some how it was resolved...this is it...for sure we will know our position by Monday AM...we are told "any time" but strongly before morning on Monday as certain employees are being called in...The rates we hear are ridiculous...think $3.60-3.80 and be shocked if higher...As far as we can tell, the rate is fixed and all was agreed upon...the good news is that there are now 125 counties uploading a rate...right now it's 0.0000,A PLACEHOLDER...UNTIL THE NEW RATE IS UPLOADED...The CBI rate will be official...RV by Monday, cash in Tuesday is the projection.


YES ALL IS WELL AND THE LITTLE THINGS WENT THROUGH .... the bank screens are reloading and we expect currency updates any minute .... for sure we will know our position by Monday AM. I WILL EXPLAIN 'LITTLE THINGS' LATER .... ASK IN 15 MINUTES


good evening my friends....... we will start this off by presenting you with the facts that there is now 133 currencie being updated on the bank screens....... all at $00.00000 this is progress................whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


Guru Purplehelmet300:   Again - nice high rate...I am still hearing GBP...I did hear certain things WERE done!...I am hearing this week...all is good!


Guru Freeway Bill:   I have never wavered on the fact that the rate was never intended to be in the $3 range and with all due respect to Adam Montana (Hannah's brother) [giggle] it was never even conceivable for it to come out at 10 cents...my rate expectations have been changed and now I expect a higher rate than I had even thought because of many issues that have come up in the past few days. Iraq has no reason to want the rate low and now, the World needs it to be higher


[size=16]The intel that is coming out now is more powerful than we have ever seen! For the first time in history, we have world leaders sitting down and discussing how to handle this mess and who needs to bow out and who needs to stay in the game. We are going to see strong alliances where we never would have dreamed they could be in the past. Finally, the entire world, or at least the more important players are saying that "WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER AND WE HAVE TO COME UP WITH A PLAN TO MAKE THIS WORK!"  IMO, I think we are at that critical time where the decisions of these leaders is vital and I believe that the right things are being attempted at this time to bring this birth into sight...the thought that we may see this hit the CBI on Sunday is a realistic thought.


Guru Randy Koonce:   Shabibi is the ultimate guy that can pull the trigger, he wants a full government, Security Ministers and Stratigic Council should give us a full government.  They are putting special sessions together to get this done.  The U.S. got ourselves in a bind with this immunity thing, it should have been settled months ago.  It's a political process and we are observers, but we are in a very good spot. We are in a window, don't know a date...I personally think that before Thanksgiving we are out of this.  It's not a matter of IF, it's a matter of  WHEN.   Monday - Thursday watch the news. The rate is $3.41, I know this from so many sources, always to the USD.


Guru Frank26:  I believe it to be a rumor but lets work as a family and look into this over the weekend until we have our CC on Monday.[/size] 80 to 120+ world currencies may be having activity right now.


We shared this info with you two weeks ago but told you to look on the 17th of November.  Lets look together just to be safe.

11/12/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

Guru Bear5642   KEEP YOUR EYES ON NEXT WEEK I DONT WANT TO GIVE A DATE OR RATE BUT BOTH ARE ABSLOUTELY AMAZING.  STAY AWAY FROM THE DATE JUST KNOW IT IS HAPPENING AND EVRYTHING HAS BEEN DONE THE 4 ISSUES AHVE BEEN REMOVED

JMO IT WILL NOT HAPPEN ON THE WEEKEND I HOPE IM WRONG. WELL I HAVE TO GO I HAVE AN OBLIGATION AND COMMITTMENT TO MEET FOR TOMORROW GOD BLESS YOU ALL[size=16]. 

I HAVE SOME AWESOME NEWS, SCOTTIG AND MY SELF HAVE BEEN ON THE PHONE FOR THE LAST FEW DAYS SPEAKING WITH OUR SOURCES AND AS ALWAYS WE VERIFY IT TO THE MAX.  REMEMBER WE TOLD THERE WERE 4 ISSUES INVOLVED IN DELAYING THIS RV,  WELL THOSE ISSUES AS WE SPEAK HAVE BEEN RESOLVED.  LET ME DESCRIBE HOW CLOSE THIS RV REALLY IS, IF YOU STANDING IN FRONT OF THE FLAME OF A CANDLE YOU COULD BLOW IT OUT.  THERE HAVE BEEN A TON OF PLAYERS INVLOVED IN THIS RV AND IT WAS BEING LINED UP SO WE CAN ALL BENIFIFT FROM AT A MAXIMUM LEVEL.THE RATE WILL BE AWESOME...IT WILL PEG TO THE US DOLLAR PERIOD, NUFF SAID...YOU CAN HOLD YOUR BREATHE BECAUSE HERE IT COMES...THE 15TH IS OUR BEST WINDOW, LETS SAY 98% [confident] ...THIS IS NO HYPE THIS THING IS HAPPENING. [/size]


Guru Jonnywg:    i never knew that there are so many different wrenches in the world this time...no more wrenches...in usa yes there will [be?] casualties that i cannot discuss...but USA SHOULD come out of this in a great position.

[size=16]i feel this is the end of the dinar meetings...there are no more meetings i think this could be the last...possible redecision...to post the rate...it is widely felt that we will see a low rate to start...i think in the $3.70 range to start...then up...i will consider anything as a massive profit...it should go up in less than 30 days but stay tuned...[timing?]  immediate...before the 15th...the 15th...contactors to be paid in rv'd dinar...govt empl as well...info can chang in a heart beat...we try our best and at times it is wrong info......thank you for being understanding...I am in the loop and you will be kept there


Guru TNT Tony:  you will see the new CBI site...and you will see it in forex a couple days later...that is the actual physical thing that has to happen...the last thing I know that has to happen is happening right now...The rate has been set...both the high and the low and being adjusted because of the reason that the g20 was there and the whole euro bailout caused the rate to be adjusted...We may get info tonight...sounds good, all of it.
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[size=16]it has been on TV 3 times in the last 24hrs [news about IQD]...the lady on TV...never said it was scam but said be careful where you get it from...she didn't know when it was going to happen, she also said don't throw it away...send it to me.  it had to come out at some point in some way...good or bad news, just be in the news...a national broadcast twice...Thats exactly how I look at it...it wouldnt be there if they (gov) didnt want it.


Guru Bulldog75:   As stated for weeks, IQD range comes above $3.33 and more near Kuwait just under $4; Dong is stable and the quiet dark horse between .05-.09.  IMHO, we should see this domino within hours to days.  Dr. Shab has to meet a liquid payroll on the 15th of November, next Tuesday.  This would have to RVD on or by our 14th. Probable RVD of IQD is so near 'within days if not hours'. This is still all about 1.Money  2. Power 3. Oil and 4. Timing of IQD.  See you soon at the bank!  


Guru OkieOilman:    [/size]"I SEND MY CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR NEW MODS WHOM I AM SO GRATEFULLY WELCOMING.

I JUST THANK EVERYONE WHO HAS GIVEN THEIR TIME AND ENERGY TO THIS OOM SITE. ITS OUR FAMILY SITE. I AM WELL AND SO BUSY BUT YOU ARE BEING TAKEN CARE OF THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS OF OUR INVESTMENT; BEAR, SCOTTI, BULLDOG, SAMBO, MISKEBAM AND OUR FABULOUS STAFF.

AM UP TO MY EYEBALLS IN GATORS. YOUR INFO YOU ARE RECEIVING NOW FROM BEAR AND BULLDOG75 IS QUITE ACCURATE. BELIEVE ME, WE ARE CLOSE, LIKE A SWEATER ON A BULLDOG.

AND THIS SHOULD SNAP AS QUICK AS DRIED TOAST AFTER BREAKFAST. I LOVE EACH OF YOU. SEE YOU SOON. YOU ARE IN GOOD HANDS HERE."


Guru Eagle Has Landed:   For those who keep saying that the Fiscal Year of Iraq ends/begins Nov 15th they need to read the Iraq Banking Law. IRAQ BANKING LAW - Page 31 - Section 6 – Accounts and Financial Statements - Article 40 Financial year: The financial year of domestic banks shall begin on January 1 and end on December 31 of the same year. For a branch of a foreign bank, the financial year may differ.


Guru Freeway Bill:   DID YOU KNOW?  That after Moses led his people out of Egypt that they wondered aimlessly in a 27 mile radius around the desert for 40 years? So, once they got what they wanted, most never lived to enjoy it? They were filled with misinformation on where to go and literally self-destructed their own cause by not following whatever right information that was there?

We have been fed tons of misinformation throughout this journey and some have sold back their dinar even with all of the tons of good information about this blessing.

BUT THEY DID NOT HAVE WHAT WE DO!

 

Guru Checkmate Dan:  there has been some stuff on the news...cnbc etc...stoked when i heard that kind of misinformation,  makes me more excited... Called up Ty [Dinar Banker], Ty said I am licensed to sell this by the Treas. there are peeps scamming others out there ...ebay etc.   there is a reason we use the dealers...just be careful where you buy it.  the day before they released KWD...they did an auction and said they were not going to RV and china did the same thing.  We are hoping it will happen before the 15th, they're pushing to get this done.


Guru Poppy3:   for the last two years is that DR SHABIBI has stated many times he wants a rate that is moderate and that can be sustained for no less that 24 months, he has said that rate would be the highest in the region and will be inline with Kuwait meaning the rate we should see will be within .10 cents either way of the border state of Kuwait and they are at $3.63 last week...this rate will allow them to stablelize their economy for continued growth.


OOM Member RSS:  Hello all my good friends. Been a while since I aired my thoughts and beliefs on where we are in our investment, and so since I can't sleep, seemed like a great time.


I have been in this investment almost five years now. In that length of time I think I have just about seen and heard it all.

I have had my highs and my lows and right now, I would have to say I'm as high ( no,not drinking or drugging) as a Georgia pine!
Why? Because after years of agony, I feel that we are about to finally end this long and decrepid journey.

I am just finding out that so many of my good friends that I have made here, and when I was moderating at that other site (which shall remain nameless) have gotten out and it just breaks my heart. Don't misunderstand , everyone must live by their own convictions and do what is best for them. I get that. It's just that I feel we are closer than flies on a garbage truck.

We have been told for years that as we entered the final leg of the journey, there would be tons of mis-information. Well....I think we got it.In the last 3 day's alone, I have seen 4 seperate mainstream media articles come out telling us what a bad risk the dinar is. LOL, I love it!!

What do you expect them to say? Hurry! Go buy dinar? Hardly. They are only saying what our govt wants the average Joe to hear. Remember my friends, we were never supposed to be a part of this to begin with.

In the past week directives were sent down from every bank you can name saying; STOP SELLING NOW!! Well, are you not a tiny bit curious as to why?

The dinar is no longer just about Iraq. We are now in the middle of global economic chaos unlike the world has ever seen. Don't misunderstand, the dinar alone cannot fix the worlds economic problems, however we are at a point where (IMO) the world doesn't stand a chance without Iraq. They have become a huge ( perhaps the biggest) piece of the solution.

It was only a couple of weeks ago when the whole world was going down, no money to be found, then suddenly, two weeks later, everyone is gonna be ok?

Please, give me a break! Just where do you think this mysterious money came from?

Look at the enormous amount of debt that Iraq owed to almost everyone in the world. The U.S. , China, Germany, Russia, Japan, to name a mere few. These and other countries have forgiven as much as 80% of this debt. Now why would we do that? Because we are all wonderful people with kind and forgiving spirits? LOL, heck no! Because we are all holding dinar and all have agreements with Iraq that will save our poorly managed financial arses thats why! When this revalues, ( and I believe with all my heart that it will and is imminent) the debt we all forgave is a drop in the bucket compared to the profits our greedy little countries will reep!

I have one source ( and one source only) of rather highly placed intel. They told me once in almost 5 years that this would end by the end of October. Well, it didn't. A lot of last minute ( global, political snags) kept that from happening. I know of at least three key meetings that had to take place that were postponed at the last minute. Did this cause the dates to change? Of course.

Look, I'm no guru, neither is my source of information, but this is an extremely fluid situation, unlike any the world has ever known, or will ever see again in our lifetimes.

Here is my point....( finally huh)? Most of us have been here a long time. We have heard multiple predictions as to when and how much. None has ever come to pass. My friends, I'm begging you; Don't give up now, not when this is almost over. I can not give you a definate rate or date. Well, actually I could, but I won't. I fully expect this to be completely over, and your money in the bank prior to Thanksgiving. Could I be wrong? No! ( Lol, jus kiddin) of course I could be wrong. This is Iraq we're talking about, but not just Iraq. Now it's the whole world. It must be, and will be done. Those of you that hang in will reap your reward!

The entire point of this rambling of mine is to hopefully keep you in this. I know people are hurting, I know the holidays are upon us. Want them to be good? Then I'm begging ya....hold out a bit longer. I do not think this will go into the holidays.

By now you may all be saying, "RSS has finally gone over the edge". Maybe so, maybe not. Just do me a favor; Don't run out and buy more, but if you do please use promo code RSS*VIP (kidding again), but don't dump what you have. Give it till at least Thanksgiving.

There is NO WAY this goes into 2012!! Ok, thats all I have to say. We are really at the end! So is this post.
..out!



DV Member: Nov 12, 2009 was the day..........from my own eyes, I saw on several difference websites as Im sure many other ppl did.............that the IQD, VND, and I believe Hong Kong and another currency rv'd.............The IQD, was I believe either 84. cent or 1.34......................The VND was .05 cents.................Ive been very curious wondering if it will RV again this year since the troops are coming out of Iraq this year.................I was a millionare for a full 24 hours...........on that day of Nov 12, 2009 haha, I wont forget................Does anyone remember this day in 2009 on Nov 12


DV Member #2: was just watching CNBC on the money segment 5:50pm est - the panel was discussing the best ways to invest in Iraq and the Dinar was the worst way...they mentioned how the CBI has maintained the 1170 and there is no fundimental reason to revalue....the one thing the panelist did say was that the currency could revalue but for a quick profit she felt the Dinar equaled no Dinero...i am not being a downer i have no link look up CNBC 11/11/11 around 5:50pm est


DV Member #3:  To be brief on this call I had last night , there was a lot of interesting information discussed

First thing is that all contracting jobs in regards to the State Department, nobody who works for the (company) has been offered a job or extension.Past the new year.

Not a big deal considering Dynacor and ITT are plucking these guys up left right , sending em to afghanistan. But in true (company) fasion they wont let these guys go home or DEMOB if you will.Holding them back because of visa issues ....never happened before, ever ....
Also , very interesting , my former supervisor has been transfered to FOB hammer to build up the helo mission ,not sure why since this base is pretty much all military personel.

Its actually a huge training area for the iraqis ,training on heavy armour ...tanks and stuff... so why the build up ?it is real close to the iran border,but still in iraq ?


Thought that was very strange since the whole country is on fire sale status to get out of there by DEC.everything is closing or closed , PXs , mailrooms etc...

And the most important , no dinar news as of yet , nothing ..no rumours no whispers no nothing.

So I can expect the various forms of bashers coming my way from the internet gangsters who drink dr pepper , pop there zits and play warcraft all day to the soccer moms who think they know everything.

But guess what , give me the negs I dont care , but my info is real and tell it how it is , I dont give false hope like Okie .

Confirmed ZIM Sovereign Rate Update #3 - Friday - November 11, 2016

Confirmed ZIM Sovereign Rate Update #3 - Friday - November 11, 2016

6:16:00 PM  

Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of November 9, 2016

Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of November 9, 2016

3:40:00 AM  Intel, News  
Restored Republic via a GCR Update as of Nov. 9 2016

Compiled in the early morning hours of 9 Nov. 2016 by Judy Byington, MSW, LCSW, ret, Author, "Twenty Two Faces," www.22faces.com, CEO, Child Abuse Recovery www.ChildAbuseRecovery.com

A. Nov. 8 2016 Bruce's The Big Call:

1. The Paris Agreement (that contains the GCR) has been implimented. The IMF made the announcement in Iraq over the weekend. Websites such as the UN are showing the GCR.

2. Large traunchs of monies have been transferred since a week ago last Mon Oct. 31 2016.

3. Paymasters out West have all been paid.

4. Everyone is waiting for the Tier 4 (Internet Group) to go.

5. Zim redeemers will be exchanged first.

6. On Sat. Nov. 5 2016 bonds were out. Last night the bonds went on sale and will conclude around midnight tonight.

7. After Iraq gets paid and the lower denominations are out, we get paid.

8. Tomorrow in Iraq two hours after morning prayers, the lower denominations will be out. Celebrations are planned in Iraq for tomorrow afternoon.

9. The Dinar continues to go up in value. Rates are higher than we ever imagined. The Zim rate is in the large 5 figures.

10. For the higher rates you need a business plan that summarizes and outlines the humanitarian projects you plan.

B. Nov. 8 2016 Update: Confirmed ZIM Sovereign Rate - Update #4 - Tuesday - November 8, 2016

1. Redeemers with humanitarian projects and job creation plans will be seen more favorably by the banks and can request any number up to the sovereign screen rate.

2. Face value redemption 1 ZIM = $32,500.00 USN+.

3. Release is to be anytime after US election polls have closed on West Coast on Tues. Nov.8 into Wed. Nov. 9 evening.

4. Look for an email entitled TETELESTAI for all relevant information post release.

C. Nov. 8 2016 TNT Chat:

LilyPad: Last week I reported to you that IQD had fallen from 1165 to 1160. It is now 1159. I am watching it daily as I have it programmed on my phone. Something is happening!

9Ball: A Dr. friend (who hasn't been right yet) just told me his high-up contact said we will have 800 #'s by Saturday.

GoRVing: Liz.Cayman just said on Fox B that we need to watch currency. Banks across the nation are loading up with personal on exchange desk due to major currency swings they believe are coming.

D. Nov. 8 2016 WingIt Call with Gerry Maguire, IKO:

No intel today but voting irregularities have been reported in several states.

E. Nov. 8 2016 TNT GS13: All is well. Don't be concerned about the election results and don't waste your energy worrying. It will all work out for good as part of a plan. The end is in sight - what we've all been waiting for. Much will be revealed soon. All you Chosen People will soon be able to go out and change the world. God bless you for hanging on and not giving up. It's been a bumpy ride, though I'm thankful for the journey.

F. Nov. 8 10:25 EST AdminBill:

1. Some claim the RV will be tonight, while others say later and even others say it will go into 2017.

2. The Global Financial Reset (GFR) is the world's response, or push back, against a cabal of powerful elite who've sought to undermine and control humanity. We've witnessed this Cabal fight to retain their power and influence and speculated for years how we'd recognize the completion of the currency revaluation process.

3. Dinarians have spent years trying to study this process to restore individual and national sovereignty.

4. As a near perfect reflection of ideals embodied in GESARA, the global Paris Agreement on Climate Change treaty just went in to force.

5. Global collateral accounts established for this time in human history are being readied for release in a way that the Powers That Be (PTB) can't benefit from them. Events seem to be reaching a crescendo.

6. So who are these PTBs that have enslaved humanity with debt? We're learning a lot from both governmental and non-governmental sources about these folks and their intricate, intimate network of co-conspirators. The extent of the corruption in both our government and the Presidential Election is becoming clear thanks to Wikileaks' email dumps.

G. Nov. 8 2016 1:25 am EST: Bonus Restored Republic Report -- November 8, 2016

H. Nov. 8 2016 3am EST: Two Private Rothschild Corporations: United States of America, Inc and The Russian Federation

I. Summary of Events Nov. 8 2016: Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of November 8...

J. Arrest Warrants: "Oral Reading of Arrest Warrants" - Anonymous Guest Post

K. The Cabal Fight: "Let The Battle Begin" - Neil Keenan Update - 11.8.16

L. We are now a Bananna Republic: Bill Holter, Jim Sinclair Interview Greg Hunter and Vice Versa

M. Nov. 8 2016 12:44 am EST Venz: "Clues" - Guest Post by Venz

1. LadyIrish: "RayRen just said he expected this was his last call for preparation and thanked everybody that has helped on the site! He thinks this is our week!" http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/when-ray-signed-off-today-thoughts-from.html?m=1

2. ZAP: "The funds will begin this week, election or no election. Our purpose is to get the reconstruction projects up and running regardless of who is in office.Paperwork is completed. Accounts were set up. Money has moved. Agreements by and between the Royals and governments have been finalized and are about to take effect. I would think that the RV and redemptions of Historic assets will begin now the conclusion of these milestone events." http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/youll-never-walk-alone-zap-office-of.html?m=1

3. Veritas: "Right now (Nov. 6) there are actions scheduled from midnight on through Wednesday for releasing funds, implementing an announcement, etc." http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/re-if-election-happens-gesara-dead.html?m=1

4. One Who Believes: "My (feeling on Nov. 7) is that it will go within the next 48 hours or less. Be ready for any moment now. Some of the clues that I base that on is:" http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/re-timing-answers-guest-post-by-one-who.html?m=1

5. Yosef on Nov. 7: "Well, no matter the many possible benevolent reasons, it's wise to now exhale and let all past expectations and resentments go. It's now time to be at peace for all is well. As the blessing you have waited for, prayed over, sacrificed much to harvest has finally arrived." http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/benevolence-gesara-update-monday.html?m=1

6. Dr. Clarke on Nov. 7: "Thought you might like a little extra "entertainment" on this crazy Monday and crazy next 7 days, really really crazy next 7 days." http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/push-button-dr-clarke-update-11-7-16.html?m=1

7. I say "my contacts whispered this week."

N. Nov. 8 2016 2:40 am EST: Confirmed ZIM Rate Update #3 - Tuesday - November 8, 2016

1. 1 ZIM = 30,000 USN+

2. Bonus Republic Update

a. The entire democratic HRC campaign is a complete hoax. MSM, too. Ask yourself why you haven't noticed?

b. Paul Ryan has already been sworn in as the hand picked restored Republic President. They even had an inauguration party for him in Reno this past October. Ask yourself why you were not invited let alone informed?

c. China, Russia and White Hat decision makers would never allow a long standing cabal leader to mange their newly restored Republic government, military and currency. Ask yourself why you have ignored such basic transitionary logic?

d. Finally, our newly restored Republic government needs to introduce a new currency by decree of international treaty, which means redeemers will be able to walk through the front door of a bank soon. Ask yourself why you were attracted to the currencies in the first place, and is this the same reason you're now following the RV so closely?

e. Political, military, banking and geopolitical truths and illusions have both been running parallel realities ever since you were born, but they are now starting to cross over, and thus all daily life lies will slowly be revealed as empty historic events, with all truths gently appearing as obvious courses for the same events. Meaning, you'll still be looking at the same picture, but suddenly gain a completely different understanding of it, and thus have a completely different experience instantaneously.

f. Do try and remain open to these dramatically new ideas above. Otherwise, you will either be shocked or terrified... or both.

Resources:

Bill Holter, Jim Sinclair Interview Greg Hunter and Vice Versa

Benevolence" - GESARA Update - Monday - November 7, 2016

Confirmed ZIM Rate Update - Monday - November 7, 2016

Confirmed ZIM Rate Update #2 - Monday - November 7, 2016

Confirmed ZIM Rate Update #3 - Tuesday - November 8, 2016

Confirmed ZIM Sovereign Rate - Update #4 - Tuesday - November 8, 2016

"The Cabal will be Defeated" - Fulford Report - 11.7.16

Restored Republic via a GCR Update as of November 5, 2016

Restored Republic via a GCR: Special Report 11-6-16

Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of November 6...

Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of November 7...

Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of November 8...

"You'll Never Walk Alone" - ZAP - The Office of POOFness - 11.7.16

"We Remain on Track" - WSOMN AdminBill Intel 7:25 AM 11-7-16

"When Ray Signed Off Today" - Thoughts from WSOMN LadyIrish

"Might this be Why Hillary was Let off?" - Guest Post by Drunken Sailor

"Abadi Raises the Flag" - Mon. PM KTFA Thoughts, News w/ Frank26

"Before or After the Elections" - Mon. AM WSOMN Thoughts

"Oral Reading of Arrest Warrants" - Anonymous Guest Post

TNT RayRen's Showtime CC Cliff Notes by Sunny 11-7-16

http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/push-button-dr-clarke-update-11-7-16.html?m=1

http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/benevolence-gesara-update-monday.html?m=1

http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/youll-never-walk-alone-zap-office-of.html?m=1

http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/re-timing-answers-guest-post-by-one-who.html?m=1

http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/when-ray-signed-off-today-thoughts-from.html?m=1

http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/re-if-election-happens-gesara-dead.html?m=1

Bonus Restored Republic Report -- November 8, 2016

Two Private Rothschild Corporations: United States of America, Inc and The Russian Federation

Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of November 8...

"Oral Reading of Arrest Warrants" - Anonymous Guest Post

"Let The Battle Begin" - Neil Keenan Update - 11.8.16

Bill Holter, Jim Sinclair Interview Greg Hunter and Vice Versa

"Clues" - Guest Post by Venz

Confirmed ZIM Sovereign Rate - Update #4 - Tuesday - November 8, 2016




Thanks to: http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com

Confirmed ZIM Rate Update #3 - Tuesday - November 8, 2016

Confirmed ZIM Rate Update #3 - Tuesday - November 8, 2016

2:40:00 AM  Emailed, Intel  
Received via email at 1:11 AM EST for publication. ~ Dinar Chronicles



1 ZIM = 30,000 USN+

Bonus Republic Update

- HRC has long been deceased due to a host of illnesses. It's obvious to multiple intelligence experts there's as many as 3 HRC actors/body doubles portraying her on the campaign trail. Thus, the entire democratic HRC campaign is a complete hoax--MSM too. Ask yourself why you haven't noticed?

- Paul Ryan has already been sworn in as the hand picked restored Republic President. They even had an inauguration party for him in Reno this past October. Ask yourself why you were not invited let alone informed?

- China, Russia and White Hat decision makers would never allow a long standing cabal leader to mange their newly restored Republic government, military and currency. Ask yourself why you have ignored such basic transitionary logic?

- Finally, our newly restored Republic government needs to introduce a new currency by decree of international treaty, which means redeemers will be able to walk through the front door of a bank soon. Ask yourself why you were attracted to the currencies in the first place, and is this the same reason you're now following the RV so closely?

- Political, military, banking and geopolitical truths and illusions have both been running parallel realities ever since you were born, but they are now starting to cross over, and thus all daily life lies will slowly be revealed as empty historic events, with all truths gently appearing as obvious courses for the same events. Meaning, you'll still be looking at the same picture, but suddenly gain a completely different understanding of it, and thus have a completely different experience instantaneously.

- Do try and remain open to these dramatically new ideas above. Otherwise, you will either be shocked or terrified... or both.

http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com

10/30/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

[b]Guru Bulldog75:   [/b]THIS SHOULD BE OUR WEEK.  WE ARE GOOD TO GO. AM REALLY EXCITED FOR EVERYONE. TRAIN A COMIN'.


Guru Med:   I THINK WE WILL SEE SHABIBI MOVE AS SOON AS THE VOTE IS OVER.  THAT IS WHY HE BOUGHT THE DE LA RUE MACHINES.  YOU HAVE PARLIAMENTS FINANCE COMMITTEE SAYING YES, YOU HAVE ALL THE BANKS IN IRAQ SAYING YES.  THEY VOTE EARLY ON THE DRAFT TO PRINT, SAY BETWEEN THE 10TH AND 15TH, EXECT THE RV WITHIN WEEKS, EXPECT BEFORE THEIR XMAS.

  LETS DO A RUNDOWN OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST 90 DAYS OR ABOUT.    #1  CBI SUBMITS DRAFT LAW TO PRINT TO COUNSEL OF MINISTERS. #2  COUNSEL OF MINISTERS APPROVES THE CBI DRAFT TO PRINT.  #3 PARLIAMENT DOES THE FIRST READING OF THE DRAFT TO PRINT.  #4 PARLIAMENT DOES THE 2ND READING OF THE DRAFT TO PRINT.#5 PARLIAMENTS FINANCE COMMITTEE ENDORSES THE REMOVAL OF THE ZEROS FROM THE IQD.  #6 BANKS OF IRAQ JOINTLY SUPPORT CBI'S DECISION TO DELETE 3 ZERO'S FROM THE NOMINAL VALUE. #7CBI ORDERS 10 DE LA RUE MACHINES AT A COST OF $15 MILLION PLUS.  #8 WE ARE WAITING FOR PARLIAMENTS RETURN SO THEY CAN VOTE ON THE FINAL APPROVALOF THE DRAFT TO PRINT.  SO THAT IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED BRIEFLY THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS.  WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT IN THAT WAY IT DOESNT SEEM LIKE THEY DRAG THEIR FEET, BUT THEY DO.


Guru Jonnywg:   We are in expectation of the illusive...it should happen between right now and NOV 1ST.   I HAVE NO NEGATIVE INFO, ALL IS POSITIVE...HAVE NO COMMENT ON RATE...I THINK BANKS FIRST.... BUT WHO CARES.... LET IT SHOW SOMEWHERE...AS THEY SAY...JUST DO IT.


Guru Vic1:  Thank you all, OOM FAMILY, All the Administration and Mod's, Ghost and Last but not Least My Brother OKIE! When We see the Brothers KUWAIT and IRAQ... All the TALK about The PORTS... Mubarak PORT... UMM QASR, Port FAW... The NEED for DEEP WATER PORTS!!!! I ask you all a QUESTION? How many of YOU have been to an OPEN HOUSE on A US Navy AIRCRAFT-CARRIER??? The Strait of HORMUZ.... The IRANIAN Navy has Patrolled... KHARQ ISLAND and Others that Iran TOOK from Neighboring countries in 1975!!! When a US AIRCRAFT-CARRIER ROLLS IN ...MAN EVEYONE PAYS ATTENTION!!! The Persian GULF is OURS(USA)! Do not think so... rermember an Article 5 months ago...When 2 Iranian Naval Ships ...went up the SUEZ canal to the MED., SEA? WHO followed them within 2 DAYS? Kuwaiti Navy?, Saudi Arabian Navy?, UK Navy? French, Chinese, RUSSIAN NAVIES??? NO!!! The Biggest and BADDEST of THEM ALL!!! THE US of A... Baby!!! When where in the MED.SEA... KEEPING a GOOD EYE on TEHRAN... TRYING to HELP THE MAD MAN from TRIPOLI!!! That is WHY .... I chose MY CITIZENSHIP at 18 ... to be and REMAIN... AMERICAN!!! THE RED,WHITE and BLUE!!! So... OUR TROOPS are LEAVING...HUH!!! IS THAT ENOUGH SAID... OR WHAT! GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!! FLY FOREVER...OLD GLORY!!! 


Guru TNT Tony:   In keeping with Dan’s analogy on our Friday call…We are EXPECTING the CBI to send out our announcements within the next 12 hours – Live Presentation of the new baby should be sometime in the next 24 hours –..... .... REMEMBER…Babies come on their own schedule so NO GUARANTEES – If the baby is not delivered by Thursday…expect a C-Section – Have a GREAT DAY – I am out buying stuff for the nursery!


Guru Bear5642:   WELL I JUST CAME IN TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE AND BELIEVE WE SHOULD SEE THIS COME TO FUITION THIS WEEK, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY.   I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING NEW SINCE FRIDAY AND IT IS EXTREMELY QUIET RIGHT NOW THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM.  I JUST KNOW THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN WHEN ALL BANKS ARE OPEN AND THE LATEST SEEMS TO POINT TO FOREX FIRST, MY GUESS IS THIS COULD POP EITHER CBI, FOREX OR ALL BANKS AT ONE TIME.  WE WILL KNOW THE MINUTE IT HAPPENS.  THIS RIDE IS DEFINATELY COMING TO AN END.

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND WHEN WE FIRST CAME IN WITH THE NEWS OF A 30 DAY DELAY WE ACTUALLY SAID ORIGINALLY IT COULD GO TO THANKSGIVING HOWEVER WE WERE TOLD IT WASH BEING PROCESSED A LOT MORE QUICKLY NAD THATS WHY WE ARE LOOKING INTO THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER

OK I HOPE I HAVE BROUGHT SOME GOOD NEWS TO EVERYONE AND I MUST BE GOING. WE DO EXPECT TO GET SOME CALLS OUT OF IRAQ TODAY OR TOMORROW AND AS ALWAYS YOU WILL HEAR IT IN OKIES HOUSE FIRST


Guru BWM:   my biggest struggle with this has been the idea that this is all iraq now... it's not and the fate of the economical balance hangs in the future of this going on... so while it should/could have been resolved months ago understand that every country has pinned their hopes on this helping them IMO.  some may want to point to that date based on the G20 meetings and some other factors... there are several other issues that need to be resolved before then that should lead to us seeing it before then... I still believe we are anytime...attitude has not changed about that with what I have heard

 
Guru OkieOilman (via Ghost):   JUST A SHORT STOP OVER RE-FUELING OKIE'S PLANE--HIS REPORT STILL STANDS ABOUT THE TIMING OF THIS EVENT--IT SHOULDN'T BE LONG NOW. HE HAS BEEN IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THE M.E. AND THE NECESSITIES ARE ACCOMPLISHED--THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO SAY

OKIE TOLD ME TO POST HE WILL BE OUT OF THE STATES FROM NOV7 THRU NOV 30TH AND PROBABLY OUT OF COMMUNICATION LOCALLY

THIS BOARD HAS PROGRESSED TO THE POINT THAT OKIE HAD HOPED IT WOULD. WITHOUT A DOUBT THE MOST INFORMED INTEL ACQUIRING PEOPLE ARE ALL ASSEMBLED ON THIS ONE SITE. THIS HAS REALLY TAKEN A BURDEN OFF HIM. HE IS ABLE TO GET SOME SLEEP INSTEAD OF BEING ON THE PHONE ALL NIGHT TO THE M.E. ACQUIRING INFO TO FURNISH YOU. HE SAID THIS SITE HAD FINALLY GROWN UP ENOUGH THAT HIS CONSTANT PRESENCE IS NO LONGER REQUIRED. HE SAID HE WOULD ONLY POST OCCASIONALLY FROM NOW ON. BUT---HE WILL BE HERE AFTER THE R/V FOR THE PURPOSE OF HELPING SOME NEWBYS NAVIGATE THE PROCESS THEY WILL FACE AFTER THE R/V--HE SAID TO TELL EVERYONE HE LOVED THEM AND HOPED GOD WOULD BLESS YOU ALL BEYOND MEASURE.-----

OKIE AND MYSELF WILL BE LOCATED IN ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACES ON EARTH---BUT ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS PLACES TO POSSIBLY BE----PRAY FOR US BOTH PLEASE


Guru Poppy3:   I am so pumped after the calls I got today all three within 45 min of each other and all had the same details from all different sources and said be ready between sunday and monday night to hear the rv and should be cashing in on tuesday the 1st of nov. awesome people honest and very sincere about the investment.  I belive it completely these guys don't play. one group information direct from bagdad, the other direct fro isreal, the other from a member of the federal reserve.


DV Member 'Dinar Buddy':  The gurus are stating Dealers are going to be required to stop selling and be on alert this coming week. TOTAL LIE!!
The dealers are not in contact with any federal alerts or communications. The government agencies only track purchases of any currency in large quantities. I have the cell phone of two local dealers, and chatted with both of them an hour ago. Both have plenty of dinar and are never restricted to sell. The only time they are not able to sell if they are out of Dinar from their local wholesalers.

The next we will hear the government is blocking out all dinar sites. This was tried in march and was deemed a joke by all.
The games the gurus do to create sales of the Dinar...

** I am not a pumper so don't ask me for the dealer contacts. You most likely are over spent to this point any way...
Go RV

Frank - Highlights From Monday Night KTFA CC 10-24-16 with play back link

KTFA Conference Call  MONDAY, OCTOBER 24, 2016

FrostyTheSnowman:  Here’s tonight’s HIGHLIGHTS ...

*** The comments made by Frank26, Delta and others are their sole OPINIONS and cannot and should not be used as any form of financial, tax, banking or investment advice!  We offer NO DATE, NO RATE on this forum!!! ***
 
Tonight’s call began by playing three Christmas Carols:
 
#1 – “White Christmas”
 
#2 - “It’s Beginning to Look a lot like Christmas”
 
#3 – “Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire”
 
Frank26:  What is the CBI doing?  Can you keep a secret?  It seems to me, that those inside of the CBI are keeping good secrets – (the best that they can).
....



There are things occurring behind the scenes with the Monetary Reform.  There is movement of “stuff” that Iraqi citizens need … hammers, computer, rice & beans.
 
IMO … countries are interested in doing business with Iraq … and Iraq is paying them … maybe the IMF is paying them … the international world is doing business with Iraq … and they are paying for their goods.  WHOA!  Do you understand that?  Are you with me?  Are you listening?  IMO -- if that is true … if the international world is gaining confidence with Iraq and the new ministers working with Abadi.  Do you think the WTO and World Bank is watching?  Are they impressed?  Can they pay their own bills? Humm.
 
A week ago, Sunday at 3:03 am Iraqi time … there was the “start” of the operations of Mosul … but I would say it was also the start of international business because they were put on a WHITE LIST.
 
I believe that this TRANSITIONAL RATE that is being used … (not in front of our eyes, nor the CBI … because by law, they would have to tell you they are) … is being used … to bring in these goods.
 
Remember … within 10 business … (normally 30) … there would be some needed info passed to the IMF or in increase in the rate to qualify with what they are doing within their budget.
 
May I suggest … there may be a SWAP … not of currency … but of an EXCHANGE RATE … within the SwiftNet system.
 
IMO -- the SwiftNet is a using a derivative … (we think) … within the next 10 days … to do a CURRENCY SWAP with the rate of the IQD against … (possibly) a basket of currencies.
 
And that’s the end of our conference call … thank you very much for coming … because that in itself would be more than enough to share with you. (just kidding)
 
Please take these “suggestions” to God in prayer.
 
Watch them.
 
Watch them possibly become real.
 
The citizens needed to trust the banks … but the international banks need to trust Iraq and their government. 
 
From black, to gray, to white … (the list) … it means they are UNRESTRICTED!!!  We told you this!  This is the freedom of movement and possibly within their capital … all IMF requirements.
 
    The Credit Rating
    Security of Corruption
    Money Laundering
    Financial Terrorists
    Legalities, Laws, ICC
    Banking Structures & Standards
 
These are NOT just movements so they can just play Tittle-De-Winks!
 
This is the Monetary Reform begin born in front of your eyes!
 
I believe that a countdown with the IMF started around that time.
 
We (non-Iraqi citizens) will probably never see a 1 to 1 rate … because a Transitional Rate (TR) may take it well past it!!!
 
The CBI and our CC Notes … are finding commonality.
 
Please remember … the CBI … does NOT have to tell you anything.  They do NOT owe you an explanation whatsoever.  It should be so.
 
Delta sends his regards and love.  He sends his patience.  He studies the CBI website for us … reads every article … interrupts them.  He pays attention to the spreadsheet … shows key numbers … projected rates … but some fields are blank.  Projected rates show 14 to 15 cents … but the 2016 is blank.  Now, some are no longer variables … they are now derivatives.  So many things … and all before November.
 
We believe the Abadi and Saleh are sending confirmations/documentations to the IMF within the 10 days that we talked about --- which are coming to a close … all BEFORE November.  IMO --- all an indication of their financial reform.

IMO -- each member of the IMF needs verification … before any change in rate … to be completed before November.

IMO – that includes a rate change … that deals with contract goods.

The letter to the IMF lets each member within the IMF knows of the rate.  The IMF cannot finalize the agreement with Iraq until they see documentation.

I told you, I don’t think we’ll ever see 1 to 1.  They might surprise us all with the international rate when it does come out.  In the ‘70’s and ‘80’s, it used to be around $2.80.  When Saddam took over, it was over $3 … and the Gulf Currency is launching around $2.60 to $2.70 … which is a fair number to start at.

We believe that the IMF may meet on the 7th of November to see if Iraq completed all they needed to do … but IMO … meetings are ongoing now.   The CBI will not be involved in any of this because they can keep a secret.

Please understand derivatives I’m not going to be your math teacher.  IMO -- variables that are now derivatives.

Mosul is still with/without the liberation … but the IMF does not care about Mosul. 

The IMF is in business to make money with Iraq.  There is no profit at a program rate.
 
The IMF does not care about 2017. 

IMO – the MR consists of the RI … and that is for the IMF.

The international world which consists of the Economic Reforms … which is the RV --- (which is not a part of the IMF).

I believe that the RI is for the IMF which is part of the MR. 

The RV is for the international investors.

This will be the FINAL letter to the IMF within these 10 days. 

It will give the IMF a good idea of when Iraq will raise the value of their currency.

Give us Fallujah … and you have the ECONOMIC REFORMS.

Give us Mosul … and you have the MONETARY REFORMS.

IMO -- I believe that we are within 1 to 2 clicks outside of Mosul. 

Therefore, we are very close to the center. 

Right now it is the Kurds Army that surrounds Mosul … that is exactly the way it should be.

The most important thing about Mosul right now is … the “CENTER.”

The CENTER … if all of Iraq was like a bulls-eye … I believe that the center of Mosul is the bulls-eye itself.

The bulls-eye of Mosul … contains the MR and the ER.  (Monetary Reform and the Economic Reform).

Do you remember that the CBI website told ALL of the banks in Iraq to prepare themselves – to stop using the USD in the first part of next year (2017) … remember that?
 
The CBI doesn’t talk that often … but when they do … especially now … they are passing along some amazing information … IMO.

The Rasheed Bank stated last week that they are adopting a new system to transfer money inside and outside of Iraq. 

Well … a country that is slapped with charters that restricts them … does not have the privileged to send their worthless money into an international environment – that’s why they are in sanctions. 

Chapter VII … has been a slow evolution.

Now the Rasheed says they are going to adopt a new system. 

Do you know what that system is? 

It’s called the IBAN (IBN) International Banking Network … which are codes … that you can’t read … codes that are necessary for Iraq’s currency to go into the international theatre. 

These are codes/routing numbers … will be used by Iraqi banks … works hand in hand with the SwiftNet system. 

Do you think Iraq qualifies for something this? 

Well, behind closed doors … I guess they do.  

They haven’t done it yet, but they have been telling the citizens this in the news. 
   
The Transitional Rate is bringing in the number … the variables … the derivatives … of their budget … IMO.

Iraq asked for the budget, didn’t they?

Mosul is about 80-90% done.
 
There is NO STOPPING the Monetary Reform.  

The timing may frustrate you, but I think the timing is brilliant.

I believe that you know that the IMF is going to give them the 2nd loan … and IMO … there is something that is coming with it.   And all before November, huh?

I believe that the evidence of this documentation, along with the derivatives … along with the currency swap … along with the SDR … have all been delivered … and all on time.

IMO – they are doing everything on time.

IMO – the IMF has received the letters from Iraq, and now the IMF knows what Iraq is going to do with their Transitional Rate.  I believe we will need this final week to be introduced to Mosul. 

The CENTER of Mosul … to me … is like the bulls-eye target!

In effect … pushing the terrorists into the center.

The Citizens have been an amazing help … flags on homes … flyers … scared ISIS.

ISIS is killing their own commanders … and these “squeeze plays” were used on them in the center of Mosul. 

Yesterday the Iraq leaders didn’t even talk about Mosul … but today, they did. 

We believe that this “pattern” … which will back-up what I’m trying to tell you about the center of Mosul.

IMO … the CENTER of MOSUL is the MONETARY REFORM!

ALL OF THESE ARE FROM ARTICLES …

#1 – “Intense artillery bombardment on DAASH sites … near the CENTER of Mosul.”

#2 – “Within 1 week … troops captured 74 towns … restored to the CENTER of Mosul.”

#3 – “It’s time for the Iraqi Army to proceed with the 2nd phase … advance to the CENTER of the city.”

#4 – “Peshmerga fulfilled their duties … declared victory on the outskirts.”

#5 – “Abadi … only Iraqi Army will be allowed to step into the CENTRAL part of Mosul.”

#6 – “Counterterrorism entered the village … within 15km of the CENTER of Mosul.”

All of these articles from TODAY … is not a coincidence family.  It’s a pattern.

#7 – “Coinciding the victories of the CENTRAL area of Mosul.”  -- (this is the article that was running around the Internet).

#8 – “… Chairman announced an ENCIRCLEMENT of Mosul.”

#9 – “… advance to the city CENTER.”

#10 – “the intelligent grounds on the bridges and streets are saying the organization withdrew … approached the liberation of the CENTER of the city of Mosul.”

Who talks like this?  Your conference calls.

It’s important that we (USA) doesn’t go in there (Mosul).
 
The Peshmerga gets the credit.   (Arab victory)

With ISIS killing itself … this last week of October … is going to be very interesting.

IMO – planting the Iraqi flag in the CENTER of Mosul … would coincide with the monetary reform.

Meanwhile, parliament finance says they have read the budget.

Do they have to read it a 2nd and 3rd time?  See what happens next week.

Oil prices have paused temporarily in lieu of the budget.

Elder88 made a post #157 … he said “WOW!  I just wanted to relay it this way … this is what we have already been hearing from F26, but in less words.”

What is he talking about?  The article that came out … a lot of us were shocked … but the words were just what we wanted to hear.

May I suggest that we have been expecting this, haven’t we family?

Delta … I called him … told him about the article … and WS and I saw it late last night … but WS said “no.”

We had Delta investigate it … Delta found it in Arabic … and said it’s was a legit source.  It was actually from a newspaper that a lot of journalists that live outside of Iraq send their articles too.  They don’t really live inside of Iraq.  They live in the US and throughout Europe.  The site itself is legit according to Delta. 

The article had been put together … kinda like Frankenstein (one piece at a time) … but it contains 2 separate things – that were not Frankenstein.  If you go back to 2003, you will see some of the words that were used in articles – you know, like they were getting ready to raise the value of the IQD. 

#1 – the articles is saying there is an independent source in the CBI that is telling them this.  (info leaked).  Can you keep a secret family?  Sometimes it’s hard.  Perhaps the CBI talked to this journalist .  The article also talked about Chapter VII.  We continued to study it.  It basically what Dr. Shabibi said before he was kicked out by Maliki and Obama.  Just because it has parts from 2003, does NOT make it any less viable.

The RECENT LIFTING?  (That’s what the IMF wanted them to do with the auctions, etc.)

WS and I didn’t want to put this article out because it was being abused by other guru’s.  We wanted to study it further … and it was treated well on our forum in thought/opinions.

This article cannot be dismissed.

Caution upon caution … I pray that you are now satisfied with it.

We will probably not see any more information presented next week … only meetings to sign-off the monetary reform.

Thank you kindly for allowing me to share our studies with you.

Let’s see if they give you Mosul within the next 7 days.

Let’s see what the elections hold on November the 8th. 

There is a pattern.

CC ended with prayer.

PLAYBACK LINK:  https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback_rudd/?n=OTQCw/uwgOv

Dr. Clarke Responds 10/11/16

Questions that Dr. Clarke answers:

Paul
10/10/2016 08:17:33 pm
Oh dear...
First it's March of 16, then June, then Sept then Oct 3 then the 10th and then maybe Dec 1 and now April of 17....

I have no problem when gurus come out with their predictions. We all listen and use our discernment to figure out what to believe.

My disappointment in Dr. Clarke stems from the fact that came out so definitive, so authoritative, like he had some kind of inside track to the plan and actually had knowledge of the inner workings of the decisions being made at the top.

Clearly I was one of the people who "fell" for this and I believed everything that he said.

I'm just so tired of all the BS and hype surrounding this. We have all had stress introduced into our lives because of no RV. Our credibility with loved ones is just one in a sting of casualties related to this investment.

I for one am going to take a break from the boards and check in once in a while to see what's up. I love all you people. The rooms and the conversations show how wonderful you all are. But I gotta focus my energies into something that will pay off for me and my family in the SHORT term.

God bless you all. GO RV
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joe
10/10/2016 09:48:03 pm
Here Here Paul......Well said.!!!!!!!
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Ash
10/10/2016 10:16:17 pm
Paul, it's like he said you, me, all of us are GAMBLERS. Paul have you personally met any of these guru's NOPE I bet. As my finance teacher in college taught , you want really big returns take really big risks that's why it's gambling, Clark is giving the best opinionated data he has. Time to come back say mid March, go relax an enjoy....
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Jayne rhodes
10/10/2016 08:22:54 pm
Dr Clark, what site are you on. I love reading your articles but do no know what site you are on. Jayne in Dallas
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BRENDA
10/10/2016 08:24:33 pm
DR CLARKE!

THANK YOU!

IN SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, YOU HAVE BEEN A GODSEND! YOU CAME WITHOUT FANFARE OR EGO, AND TRIED TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THIS BEAST OF A REVALUATION. NO HYPE, NO CONFERENCE CALLS, YOUTUBE VIDEOS, ETC ETC ETC.

I FEEL THAT THIS EMAIL OF YOUR THIS EVENING IS ONE OF YOUR BEST!!

PLEASE DONT LET THE HATERS/BASHERS WIN, BY NOT POSTING THEY WILL WIN!

YOU HAVE SOOTHED AND HELPED SO SO MANY LIVES ON THIS RIDE THIS PAST YEAR, AND ITD BE A SHAME FOR YOU TO CEASE WHAT YOU STARTED.

REMEBER THE REASON WHY YOU CAME!!!

THANK YOU & GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!!!

BRENDA
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Sandy
10/11/2016 04:10:07 pm
I second Brenda's comment. Don't go away. You are like the fresh breath of air after being in a stifling room for hours on end!!!
Beside that I love the scarcastic comments too much to loose the laughter I get from them!
Besides that I enjoy reading what you say because it is all original not Copied or saying the same thing everyone else says or prints.
Thank. You for being you and Up-Front with everyone!
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Compassion Ministries
10/10/2016 08:28:02 pm
Thanks, Dr. Clarke!

Blessings, Larry
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blazer
10/10/2016 08:29:43 pm
ISIS Forces People of Mosul to Use its Currency, Confiscates Iraqi Dinars

http://www.iraqinews.com/iraq-war/isis-collects-iraqi-currency-replace-currency-mosul/
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Brian Okajima link
10/10/2016 08:32:10 pm
Dr. Clarke, this is not funny you got everyone confused. We don't need another person to create a chaos situation inside of each individual. You said - ' DO IT TODAY! GET ON IT!……..your currency will still be there. Just because it hasn’t happened before, doesn’t mean it can’t happen TODAY!……..no matter what your age is.' Tell us the truth, because we know how is the situation all over the world. Everyday we read the news and we see the problems that people are going through. So tell us, it can happen today or just april...this thing is killing our faith and hope, because has changed so many times that some people cannot handle another delay. Don't get angry about someone else comment but keep informing us with those details that no one else knows. Thanks for everything
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joe
10/10/2016 08:32:53 pm
thank u Dr Clarke
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PDGOD
10/10/2016 08:33:08 pm
Dr. Clark, you are right it is your opinion only, USA banks have no liquidity now to wait till April 2017. LOL Your focus in not in the Banking industry or financial world. In total disagreement with your opinion.
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Keith
10/10/2016 08:33:45 pm
In your first Post you said you were a "Whale" and that you were privy to the timeline of events because you were close to the process.
You certainly led everyone to believe that you truly new the Timeline of events in everyone of your posts.
Your timeline of events fell apart and now you seem to have an attitude towards your readers.
Now you say everything shared from this point on is Your Opinion.
Just come clean and admit that you are just another Guru that has shared your Opinions just like all the others.
You do not have to get Critical of everyone simply because you were wrong.
You seem to be implying that those of us that have Eagerly followed your postings simply MisRead into what you were posting. Nope! You led us to believe that you had info no one else had.
Now I question your Integrity.
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Robin
10/10/2016 09:48:20 pm
You are absolutely correct in every thing you said. Thank you!!
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Gman
10/10/2016 10:21:21 pm
Couldn 't have said it better myself Keith. You wrote into words the exact thoughts I had reading this from Dr. Clarke.
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Red
10/10/2016 11:45:51 pm
Great comments, Keith. I think the person behind "Dr. Clarke" thinks that we have forgotten past writings. We haven't. This has become a farce.
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Jeremy
10/10/2016 08:34:12 pm
Awesome, finally the truth.
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DUTCHIE
10/10/2016 08:37:42 pm
Thanks for coming back to us as you promised that you would stay with us through our journey. Yes you were 100% wrong but I still believe you are THE best one out there guessing! And what I do respect the most is that you do not bash others in order to make yourself look better which is a total sign of weakness! The only mistake you made was that you told us for sure it was happening! That is what got us down and angry and disappointed etc....! But we learned again that nobody knows and it is just a guessing game trying to connect the pieces of the puzzle! We need to do our own research too and with the info you give us stairs us in the right direction to do so! I value your knowledge and definitely would like you to keep giving us your info! You are forgiven and letz have a new improved start. Out with the old, in with the new! Welcome back! Let us all look at the glass half full vs half empty and all of us Dinarians should give good energy to this TV happening. GO RV! Proost
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Naplesnurse  
10/10/2016 08:39:49 pm
Dr. Clarke,

I am speechless. Sounds like I need to brace myself as our world continues in a steady downward decline.

Thank YOU, Dr. Clarke, for all you do.
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Gia
10/11/2016 12:39:45 pm

Hi!!

My posts are never mean I have no idea why I'm not getting through? I wanted to tell you hello and thanks for posting yesterday always happy to see you around.

Take Care:)
Gia~
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Aclogan
10/10/2016 08:40:53 pm
Is it still okay for us to purchase uncirculated dinar? I'd like to buy more but not really sure where to buy from now. I bought mine from sterling.
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Diana  
10/10/2016 10:35:35 pm
Dinarinc, or safedinar. Only 2 credible sites that I personally know of.
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Max Jean-Baptiste
10/11/2016 03:50:48 am
XchangeofAmerica.

Shirley  
10/11/2016 09:00:05 am
Aclogan, I would suggest you don't purchase any more Dinar since it has been so overly produces. I would suggest you purchase Dong you will get a far better return on the Dong then the Dinar and the Dong is a recognized international currency already. If anything goes wrong with this RV you can still cash out your Dong and not take a loss on what you paid not so with the Dinar. You can also purchase Dong from your bank.
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WB-LD
10/10/2016 08:41:15 pm
Dr. Clarke thank you for your time and INTEL... it is greatly appreciated. Your willingness to assist us is much more than is required or expected by anyone... You have GONE WAY BEYOND the call of duty... I remember you saying something... this investment is not logical... I will stick with that statement realizing that this transaction has a ""HIGH PROBABILITY"" of occurring ANYTIME!!!
Which could mean this MONTH or even by the end of 2016... BUT LOGICAL THINKING SAYS, no way but... this entire investment is SPECULATION AND NOT LOGICAL... RIGHT??? Thank you for your response to my comment.
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[url=http://Dinar Recaps]Bill[/url] [url=http://Dinar Recaps]link[/url]
10/10/2016 08:47:50 pm
Dr. Clarke,

Thank you for your honesty and explanation of all.

Sometimes truth hurts but it is still 'truth'.

God bless you.
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Ruby
10/10/2016 08:56:30 pm
Dr. Clarke,

Thank you for coming back - but not so happy to hear about such a long delay.

PLEASE CLARIFY: Are you saying that the VND is ready and can go at any time -- and DOES NOT NEED TO GO AT THE SAME TIME AS THE DINAR?

Thank you for clarifying.

Ruby


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Jodie
10/10/2016 09:32:33 pm
This is my question also. I was of the thought that the Dong would go with the Dinar?
Thank you, Dr. Clark
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Dave
10/10/2016 10:44:15 pm
Agree,

If the Dong is ready let us exchange. Something is better than nothing.

Jeanne
10/10/2016 08:59:16 pm
Touche' Clarke! I wondered how you would handle the "whiners", now I know. I do wonder, however, why you would want to be involved with any of us "dreamers" in the first place? On the other hand, perhaps on your part, you are providing a wake up call for us...a dose of reality? Yes, I watched the name calling debates; yes, I see Russia on a storm path; yes I am aware of those things that you mentioned and I am sure there are more of which we have no knowledge so I will thank you for your forthrightness. I will also add, at 81 years of age, living on a very meager monthly income, I must continue to BELIEVE. I have goals to accomplish; I have gifts to give and " many miles to keep before I sleep".i was only able to invest in a very small amount of Dong; I continue to pray to The One, whose Name is above all names, and I believe!
Thank you, Jeanne
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Choo Choo
10/10/2016 11:31:54 pm
Jeanne...

May God bless you and keep you...and all of us...to see this change come. If not, may we find a fish with what we need in it's mouth...for we know he is able!! AMEN! Thanks to Dr. Clark also.
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[url=http://Dinar Recaps]Louise[/url] [url=http://Dinar Recaps]link[/url]
10/10/2016 09:00:46 pm
Thanks, once again, for donating your time to provide us with your valuable insight. It is very much appreciated, as always. God Bless!
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Carguy link
10/10/2016 09:04:55 pm
Why when a Guru is soooo certain of a date, that ultimately sails right on by without a blip suddenly sees the clarity the "real" date is 6 months away? Did you not know Mosul was a mess, HCL not passed, Iraq still corrupt or US elections take place this Nov. on Sept 30??

Dr.'s April prediction shows he really has no idea when this will happen. April or September have always been the fall-back months as those months are traditionally/ historically when IQD changes value.

If I proclaimed in 2013 we would be RV-less in late 2016 nobody would have believed it. If you think all the crap Iraq has to do will be done in 6 months just look at history. If HRC wins I don't think it will happen during her reign at all so everybody better get used to thinking 2021. Sounds crazy but a 2016 RV back in 2012 would have sounded equally crazy.

Dr. - just for "Entertainment" as you say - I and many others would like to know what made you so certain of your past dates.

This is hardly "Entertainment" for many who hung their hopes on your words for the last 10 months.
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Gman
10/10/2016 10:23:50 pm
Bingo!
Well said CARGUY.
Gman
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Gary
10/10/2016 10:48:21 pm
Carguy you took the words right out of my mouth. Especially after my real words didn't get posted by recaps earlier!
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[url=http://Peoples Dinar]Muecke[/url] [url=http://Peoples Dinar]link[/url]
10/11/2016 07:09:23 am
I agree 1000%.
Nuff said......
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killakid
10/10/2016 09:16:25 pm
Finally we have an Honest post.
Entertainment Purposes Only
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John F
10/10/2016 09:19:13 pm
Thank you Dr Clarke
Always great to see you in the que, ALWAYS! Solid, consistent information, per usual, and more than confirms what's I've been feeling. Makes good sense. This is such a massive transition, which I think of more as a GFR versus a GCR - a Global Financial Restructuring - regarding the BRICS alliance, AIIB and China now within the IMF ranks, just to name a few.... These are huge aspects of this financial restructuring process, and somehow connected to Iraq's coming back to full international status. - truly an amazing time to experience, especially with our front row seats.

I don't have any questions right now - just wanted to chime in and say thanks again. All of a sudden, it will be April

Love to you and yours
John F
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[url=http://recaps dr clarke oct 10]wanderer[/url] [url=http://recaps dr clarke oct 10]link[/url]
10/10/2016 09:37:50 pm
Thanks Dr. Clarke for your time and efforts. Sorry for all the know it all's in dinar land. This post hits it square on the head. So many focused on you and they are following others of the cliff continually, to afraid to see the truth of life for what it is. They need to be led... unfortunately the blind leading the blind. Shine some light and they do not recognize it. They seem to have a form of godliness but deny the power... love. For them eventually easy come easy go. Love to you and yours and recaps who has to put the highwaters on to wade thru it...
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Debra
10/10/2016 09:42:10 pm
Dear Dr. Clarke,

Thank you for sharing the latest information, although it is not what any of us wanted to see.

Is the April date based on logic or was it a date which was discussed during the meetings? Do you personally feel that it will take this long or do you think they will come back with a different plan?
Do you feel that Vietnam will have a new rate earlier than April, and, if so, what is your best guess as to that date.

Please don't leave us. There are many of us who respect you and look forward to hearing from you.
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Far North
10/10/2016 09:43:26 pm
While I am usually a "proofer," your "opinions" line up almost identically with a friend of mine who has proven extremely wise in these matters. She told me that everything will "lock into place" around election time but things wouldn't be quite done until spring time due to volatility in the area and that the rates would not be the kind that makes *everyone* instant millionaires. While she didn't give me any proof either, she has never been wrong in these kinds of things in the 9-10 years I've known her.

While I normally would've passed your info by since it didn't have "proof" (just being honest), this made me take another look. Two of your posts on schedule updates have lined up with hers (which I heard before reading yours) and even the outside factors did. I am positive you are not her and that she does NOT read DU, so I feel there is something to this. So keep in touch with everyone. I'm truly curious if there is something to this alignment of ideas.
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[url=http://Sedona Connection]Gunther[/url] [url=http://Sedona Connection]link[/url]
10/10/2016 09:45:54 pm
Amen, Amen, and Amen!!! This is the post I have been waiting to read to set my spirit free. There really should not be anymore debate period regarding where we stand in this venture, because we all have been blessed with sound reason, and this fantastic post should be as plain as can be. God I love this man and thank Dinar Recaps for allowing the truth to hit this site. Folks everyone take heed of all the good advice in this post, and do not count on this "speculation of re-valuation" to turn you into a millionare, but maybe it will be a nice return on investment. Get busy looking elsewhere for income, plain and simple!!!!!
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repguy link
10/10/2016 10:53:12 pm
Recaps, you don't typically post my comments, but please post this:
You know, lost in the shuffle, speculation and hype is that some of us are very sick. There will be no other source of income, no other potential (apart from the miraculous intervention of God) for desperately needed medical care. In such instances, one does wind up inordinately searching for hope. Pathetic, huh?
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Sean link
10/10/2016 10:59:19 pm
I agree that very few will become millionaires with the dinar, but might make a nice profit. If you are looking for the dinar to solve your financial issues you may be disappointed. You need to diversify and quit reading the blogs everyday. Get out and enjoy life.
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Ellie link
10/10/2016 11:57:50 pm
Ditto!
Thanks Dr. Clarke. I do believe that you intend the best for all.
I now try to go throughout each and everyday with that intention as well. It sure does make for a happy day! Thank you for your time.
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Herewego
10/10/2016 09:52:09 pm
Ok Dr. Clarke, here are my questions (as D.R. didn't post my other one)
1. Can we go to Iraq and exchange? As there seems to already be an in country rate change.

2. Before, when they have pulled the wool over our eyes, then pulled out the rug, we had the twitter campaign, which was the only thing that seemed to work against them, now Obama has given away the internet to the UN, so will we be able to do the tweeting again? And did they make us think the rv was coming to smooth us over until after Oct. 1?

3. Are the corrupt politicians trying to get out of office before they let this go and they get found out?
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steve link
10/10/2016 09:54:37 pm
so the Dong could go anytime? Is there any intel coming out of reliable sources that the Dong is ready to go? If so what would trigger? You said they are ready. Who gets to say ok you can revalue? (Vietnam)
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Montana
10/10/2016 09:54:50 pm
I think Dr. Clarke just needed to vent a bit for our entertainment! This is great news. If we can get everyone else to agree it's going to be an April RV we may have a chance for it to happen this week.
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Cortez
10/10/2016 10:09:31 pm
Thank you for your lengthy post, Dr. Clarke. It's always good to hear from you. Could you please elaborate on the "hints" you gave -- Russia, Trump and Iran, and how they might impact the dinar RV timeline? Thank you.
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Jeannie  
10/10/2016 10:18:12 pm
Hey thanks for your posts... it's appreciated just in case nobody ever tells you. there's people who don't understand and never will you don't have to worry about them.

Nearly every Intel provider has called it daily for years I don't think anyone has ever put you in the same boat. And if anyone Compares you to any other Intel provider than they're just an idiot.

Even Billy has called it many times throughout the years.

Take care and know that there's people out there who support you and hope to continue to read your posts.
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Beverly
10/10/2016 10:19:02 pm
Dear Dr. Clarke, to be honest I was not surprised with your blog post today. After taking the blame for people dying, buying currency they could not afford, and just about every other BLAME the Dr. method.

I will also just add that I have wondered WHY anyone would want to provide intel to the masses. Yes, there are far more wonderful people in the world than the negative nellies.

So, taking you for your word that you only meant to help, and provide information that you (they) may have as a whale (group), I would like to THANK YOU.

Second, I see that you have posted from today on for ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY.

QUESTION: If you are posting for entertainment purposes only, are you saying that everything you say is rhetorical? Of no purpose?

Third, you stated that the Vietnamese Dong is READY.

QUESTION: If the Vietnamese Dong is ready, is it your understanding that the only thing that is holding it up is for it to go at or close to the same time as the Iraq Dinar?

Fourth, at appears that a lot of your focus is from the political (USA, Iran, Russia, etc.) standpoint.

QUESTION: Is it your opinion that the TRIGGER for the release of the Dinar and/or Dong is based on everyone and all countries being stable (i.e., the ones you listed and a few more).

QUESTION: If we are waiting for STABLE political position with the USA and some foreign nations, are you alluding in your April time frame that a NEW PRESIDENT for the USA is required of this?

Dr. Clarke, you state you and your friends are whales and there are some WHALES who are stating they are liquid, and have exchanged fully.

QUESTION: Recognizing that their are many players in this currency exchange (countries, foundations, governments, churches, not for profits, etc.), is it your opinion that their is a TIER system, and if so what is the TIER system for rollout that you have heard?

You explain the steps that many are looking for with Iraq (i.e., Mosul, HCL, budget, etc.) and in your timeframe you suggest that December 2016 should see resolution to all of these issues.

QUESTION: If Iraq has Mosul, budget is published, and HCL implemented in December do you see the potential for Iraq to also move into the ANYTIME and ANY MINUTE as of completion of those steps? Or, are you leaning more to the side of the political unrest to be stabilized and the New President of the USA to be seated in the White House before?

I know, a lot of questions and thoughts and ultimately I do thank you and send you my condolences on the treatment you received at the hands of many. If there is one thing each of us needs to remember, it is: WE are responsible for our own actions, and the BLAME game just never cuts it.

Dr. Clarke, I do not know you and you are reading a long winded post from a Canadian. I do however understand that you have been treated poorly by many.

With respect, and sending YOU and all you work with gratitude and I wish only the best for you too.

b.
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Charles Reese
10/10/2016 10:28:01 pm
I'm just listening and reading, waiting my time! I know this is soon to happen, at least I hope. My faith is not in the RV but in the Resurrection so it doesn't matter if this thing goes or not. Some people have already gone to rest, hopefully in the Lord. This is all that is important. If this RV happens in our lifetime then so be it. It may make life easy or not. It may become more complicated than any of us expected. So be careful what you wish for, it could come to past. Thanks Dr. Clark for you "logic" and input. I've been at this now for 11 years, so what will 6 months matter?
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john
10/10/2016 10:33:40 pm
Dr. Clarke,

Many, many, many thanks for your posts!

You have given us your logical approximate RV date of April 2017. Now would you give us your ILLOGICAL date or month?

We need your "illlogic", the logic maybe found everywhere else.

Blessings my friend.

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bobby
10/10/2016 10:34:20 pm
Dr. Clarke, short and sweet. I know thus frustration u displayed came from the Mtn Goat post. Pls pay no attention to her. She is FOS. Just read her carefully. She has had as many "windows" as anybody. She says "read the articles carefully", then says she pays little attention to articles. She sounds like a lunatic to met. Pay no attention to her and keep up what u are doing. Thanks. Bobby
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Ash
10/10/2016 10:36:59 pm
Folks it's time we all put on our big boy an big girl panties an call this like the good Dr. said this is an educated gamble but still a gamble. No one forced us to get into this but who , yep each one of us is accountable for own decisions.... It's time to get over it an stop whining, come on folks it's not Clark, goat, Frank, bluwolf, bgg, Tony, or whoevers fault it has not RVd. As of this moment I think we are all on the right side of the ground go live your life as if today was your last an then the next day and then the next. I promise everything will fall into place.
Ash. In Dallas
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Stan  
10/10/2016 10:41:12 pm
Dr. Clarke,

Thank you for your time, input and your heart felt advice. But for now I will stick with this:
DOUBT & EVIDENCE, will tell you maybe much later in 2017, or Never at ALL.
Your HEART & GUT, might tell you something different……
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dale
10/10/2016 10:53:30 pm
Well, thanks Doc, honesty, 10.6 years what's another 6 mo. Like you said a gamble. We all are sick of the spin in dinarland.Your opening sounds better than all the rest. As we wait, please share , and prognosticate as often as you can we are all ears. Your opening on the rate would be interesting to here, purely for intertainment purposes of course. Until next time, be blessed and walk upright, in faith....dale
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john
10/10/2016 10:54:21 pm
Dr. Clarke,

When you say "Also, the Price of Oil, must raise significantly over $50, which has happened, and will continue upwards to just under $100, when Iraq announces…."

Is this a way of saying when the price of oil is just under $100, is when Iraq will RV?

Blessings.
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Helenna Kohl link
10/10/2016 10:56:15 pm
Dr. Clarke, if you would be so kind, please elaborate as much as possible on the dong and it's timing. Will there be any notification or do we just wing it doing our own research watching for a rate. Some are simply not able to hold on another six months.
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[url=http://none at this time]capt wayne willis[/url] [url=http://none at this time]link[/url]
10/10/2016 11:03:56 pm
Except for the exclusion of rate and date, what of a positive nature can you say about the near future of our DONG?
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Christyluv
10/10/2016 11:05:37 pm
Dear Dr. Clarke

Thank you for all you do for us.

To Naysayers I understand it hurts to wait but I don't remember ever when Dr. Clarke said he will push the button for Iraqi Dinar revaluation. It is obvious that based on his speculation, he assumed on certain dates. Let's be grateful to his effort to give us updates even after some bad comments that was posted. This is international matter and things change.
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Candi
10/10/2016 11:09:31 pm
My mom and I luv that u are so honest and just say it like it is....please please please dont stay away too long....I had a premonition 5 years ago that it was going to be after election...and here we are... .I tell u what those gurus that put u down are wrong all the time too!! They have no class and their mother never taught them any manners...they are jealous. ..the only thing that really chaps my hide is I want to know why...why.it is taking so dang long? Then I will be ok...please in simple words and no innuendos please I beg you tell us why...I am sooooo grateful to you...please dont stay away...please I need everyone needs your brilliant breakdown of this insanity. ..ignore all negative and help us please and tanky
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Candi
10/10/2016 11:51:34 pm
I accidentally pushed send before I was finished....thankyou so much for your continued bravery in helping us survive this insane journey. ..I know I speak for everyone.....is there a real truth a real reason why its not going to happen till april? Please that is my question...god bless u for helping us... candi
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applepie
10/10/2016 11:11:23 pm
Dear Dr. Clarke,

I REALLY hope you read my post. I have followed you since day one. I've read and re-read all of your posts and STILL regard you as the ONLY credible source of "information" regarding what seems to some a never ending saga. I want you to know that "I" get you - I "understand you" perfectly and probably more clearly than most.

I also want you to know that I read all 180 comments from your previous post. I also calculated positive vs. negative comments and the positive comments BY FAR exceed the negative. It's just a shame that SO many people can read but not understand or comprehend what hey read. I know as most others know that you never "promised" a September date. You simply said that there were 2 "probabilities", September and December. At the time you felt the September date was more "probable". You also clearly stated that it was contingent upon "other" factors.

Well obviously the "other factors" occurred and that's CERTAINLY not your fault. The bashing that occurred really was quite horrible and absolute evidence that some people just don't get it. It was TOTALLY uncalled for as well a comment by a certain guru/non guru/turned article reporter/constant basher/constant back patter - yeah YOU know who I'm talking about. Shame on you ! ! !

I also understand todays post clear as a bell. I say let the lemmings follow the "logical" path. I choose to follow and believe in your "illogical" approach and always will. I've been involved in this endeavor since 2008 and KNOW just how far "logic" gets you. There is NOTHING logical about this.

I will probably be bashed by certain people too but it's ok as I KNOW there are many MANY more who get it - who understand and who can actually comprehend what you have written. I also feel your apology was totally unnecessary and unfortunately opened the gates for all of the bashers out there.

Wake up people - Mr. Clarke IS the best source of information out there.

Shame on ALL of you bashers ! ! ! You got your 15 minutes of fame. I hope you enjoyed it because when this thing goes down it is YOU who will have egg on your faces.

May God bless you and yours Dr. Clarke. Hang in there - I "Get it" as do SO many more that just don't.

OK - ready......set.......GO ! ! !

FIRE AWAY BASHERS - I too can take it too ! ! ! The only difference between me and the honorable Dr. Clarke is that HE actually replies and I won't. By the way - who else does this or has every done this - quick answer? No one EXCEPT Dr. Clarke. It's called accountability.

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texcat
10/11/2016 11:33:09 am
My exact thoughts, Applepie. Thanks.
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SissyBear
10/11/2016 03:46:33 pm
Very good post Appliepie!
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Francis Albert
10/10/2016 11:53:43 pm
The people that tell you that they have no agenda and are just here to help...have one agenda, to be needed, wanted and admired for their opinion.This has been and is the driving force for all so called "gurus" from the beginning.

Clarke, probably not a doctor, has no more a clue when Iraq will RV than anyone.

If I had to choose one who makes the most sense of all of it is Frank26.
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Radiant Self
10/11/2016 01:00:04 am
I agree. Until now, Frank is the best.
God bless us, each and the whole world!
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Doug
10/10/2016 11:56:47 pm
Dr. Clarke thank you for taking responsibility for your past projections and time !ines. Your the best so far to grace the pages of Dinar recaps. Keep up the good work.
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Mark
10/11/2016 12:28:26 am
Dr Clarke, I am also one that is glad to see whenever you post. Many are quick to complain if they are not told what they would like to hear. Although it is disappointing to have gone past our day or week that just passed we must hang in there. Entertainment or otherwise please keep coming around.

One question that perplexes me is whether or not this is up to Iraq or some outside source. Also, if things were to speed up could it happen sooner than April?

Aloha and Mahalo from Hawaii,

Mark
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Eleven11
10/11/2016 12:40:21 am
Dr Clarke

Thank you for your thoughtful and insightful big picture update.

Okay then ... it seems we continue our dinar/dong land dance with good odds and a high probability of the successful gamble paying off sometime into the near to mid term future. Goodo.

In the meantime I'll continue living each day in the middle of the mystery allowing for all potentials, all possibilities and all time lines.

Heartfelt gratitude for your honest appraisal.



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Kerwin
10/11/2016 12:44:59 am
As a young boy, my sister took my mother’s check book and bought me and my other brothers and sister candy from the corner store. My mother punished all of us and I still remember the punishment over 40 years later. Dr. Clark I don’t know you, but I enjoyed your Intel. It seems to me that you have allowed the people that really didn’t appreciate your sacrifice make it bad for the people that did. As a senior pastor, I answer my critics by helping the ones that need me the most. I can’t afford to punish the ones that need hope and my help. Dr. Clark, when you have people that are hanging on to your every word, sometimes things don’t turn out the way they should; but giving up on people that trust you is not the answer. I apologize for every person that caused you pain by their hurtful words. We need you and hope you can find it in your heart to do what’s right for the people that hoped in your every word.
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tom wiseman link
10/11/2016 01:04:20 am
I AGREE WITH YOU DR.CLARK, WE ARE ALL GAMBLERS THINKING THE NEXT POT WILL BE OURS. BUT SMART GAMBLERS BET NO MORE THAN THEY CAN AFFORD TO LOSE BUT AS IT IS, WE ARE THE FEW.THAT HAS TIME TO WAIT AND CAN STILL LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS AND CAN SLEEP OK HOWEVER IT TURNS OUT. GOD BLESS THOSE THAT HAVE THAT HAVE PUT IN EVERYTHING. I WISSH THEM THE BEST.
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Dee  
10/11/2016 01:07:18 am
Hi Dr Clarke,

I choose to follow your illogical path as you referenced previously. I got it I read between the lines. God bless

Dee
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Ken
10/11/2016 01:14:23 am
Dr Clarke, I want you to know that most of us appreciate your insight and behind the scenes information. I apologize for the actions of some of these people and can guarantee that all the ones bashing you have never been to, or dealt with, a third world country and do not understand that their mindset is totally different from western populations.

I hope you visit here every week or two to let us know what the current environment looks like at the time.

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[url=http://Dinar Recaps]The Doc[/url] [url=http://Dinar Recaps]link[/url]
10/11/2016 04:10:22 am
We now seem to have 3 large players in this plethora of blogs:
1.Mt Goat - follow the articles but only the "reliable" ones!. Time line - now till early 2017. Concedes Iranian Rial will RV but not talking about Dong
2. Dr Clark - "the man" until recently. He laughed at "those" that said probably by April 2017 but has now joined them - ie all laws etc must be done. He does , however, feel, Dong will go this year ( as does Vietnam, if you care to recall what the Finance Minister said). he doesn't like Iran or their currency.
3. Frank26 & KTFA - poor guy gets basically no comments yet his posts are well constructed & he has real intel. He feels by end 2016 & gives good reasons why. He knows the Dong is "hot" but not when it will go.
The rest are really simply musing & could be removed from the sites as they contribute nothing. Sorry but these guys above are really neck & neck in the race to see who will be remembered for the 15 minutes after the currencies revalue. Wouldn't it be wonderful if these 3 could have a "presidential" debate on why they are right!
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john
10/11/2016 04:58:56 am
Dr. Clarke,

You pack a lot of good information in a few words. I read your post several times and had more of an understanding each time. May I suggest that you remind the readers to go back and read your posts several times slowly? I think you use to do that.

Best regards.
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Dillon link
10/11/2016 08:55:21 am
Great layout of the facts as they are known to date, Dr. Clarke.
The takeaway from this dinar debacle is that this is NOT an investment. Dinar is a pure speculation but with a limited downside.
Could you lose money on the dinar you've purchased? Sure, but it isn't likely you would lose very much. Unlike the worthless ZIM. The ZIM smelled like a con from day one and I've avoided buying any.

The second takeaway is that there are far more reliable ways to "earn" a fortune. And, buying dinar is not in the same category of earning money by dint of hard work and smart thinking.

Just for example, I've easily invested 10X the cash I spent on dinar inventing a device that produces crystalline healing water. Besides restoring health the hydrogenated water accelerates the growth of plants by three to five times.

So, the takeaway for me is to GET A LIFE AND DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE with your time and money.
For me, the satisfaction of inventing something that produces unlimited clean energy with life-changing health benefits far outweighs dabbling in dinar. Dillon
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texcat
10/11/2016 11:29:40 am
Dillon, well sai. Congratulations on your crystaline water device & would love to hear more about it, as a follower of Dr. Emoto & others work with water, it's properties & importance to all life.
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Kim
10/11/2016 08:57:02 am
Good Morning Dr. Clarke,

I had sent you a simple "Thank You," but it didn't get published. So now in reviewing others' comments I feel my questions & personal leanings are best described by both Beverly from Canada & Dee who is still recalling your "illogical" investment & timing post. Would you please answer Beverly's questions? And, are you still of the opinion that we should view this investment's release & timing with an "illogical" perspective -- although perhaps now moved farther into the future? It wouldn't make sense to me that anyone would announce when any country's "revalue" is going to happen as doing so would cause major chaos in the currency markets. What's "logical" about that???

Thank you for your kindness & well wishes for us all. Many of us extend the very same back to you,
~Kim
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Dave
10/11/2016 09:33:44 am
Dinar Community,

Stop whining and complaining. What did you expect Dr Clarke to say? First off, he had the guts to come out and say that he and his group were WRONG! Gut check #1.

That's not easy to do. Admit to the general public that you are wrong. Men of honor will always admit when they are wrong or made a mistake.

Buying foreign currency is a gamble...period! You all knew that from the start. If you believe that Iraq is in full control of their currency reevaluation; then you are clueless. Iraq and
Kuwait are completely different animals for different reasons in relation to their currency evaluations.

The Truth 1:

The Dinar Community always talks about the truth. The truth, just give us the truth. The truth is this:

Look at the history of Iraq. You all know the story. Now, Iraq is trying to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and get back into the international community with no restrictions. And, to date, they have done a pretty good job. Abadi has done a great job of moving them forward while Maliki took them backwards.

Bottom line...the IMF, UN along with other 3 letter communities will NOT allow Iraq back into the community until EVERYTHING is done! And you can bet you butt, that the committee responsible for overseeing this aspect will NOT give the final permission until everything is complete and the situation in the ME is right. You see, these folks are immune to the pressure of pushing that permission button. They don't care about you are me. They don't care about pressure from other governments. Their job is to ensure it's done right and that it will be a success and NOT a failure. Their is too much riding for a country (like Iraq) to fail. They won't let it happen. And they will wait as long as it takes for everything to be absolutely right.
That means that if April doesn't show many improvements, they will continue to extend the timeline. Gut check #2.

This is probably why Dr Clarke ended up being wrong on the September date. The committee simply reviewed everything and determined that Iraq is not ready yet and the political climate is not conducive for a reevaluation just yet. So, they changed the timeline and extended it.

The Truth 2:

The articles you read do NOT tell the complete story. And, they never will. Make no mistake about it. Countries DO NOT
advertise their monetary moves. Not Kuwait, Swiss, French or Japan. None of them. Neither will Vietnam; and they are international and can revalue anytime they want.

Articles are designed to give you some BASIC knowledge. While others are there to deceive you and throw you off track.

Why you ask? Again, countries do NOT advertise their monetary moves. Way, way too much money could be lost if a government let the community know in advance. It could and would cost a country billions and trillions of dollars as corporations, companies, citizens, foreign entities and investment houses were to hedge their "bets" on these currencies. When the Dinar reevaluates, it will be with no notice and the world will be expecting it. No one article will show you the way on this. It's going to be secret. It MUST be secret down to the point when the decision is made and it shows up on the currency screens. People who shove articles down your throat will get caught by surprise just as YOU will. Gut check #3.

The Dinar Community has taken on a life of it's own along with these groups. They want your money, your time, your "hits" on their sites. Make your own deal and figure it out. There is enough information out there. I will say right now that there are a few dinar gurus (FEW) that are out there to help. Figure it out who they are. It's not hard.

Alternate realities like NASARA and the Cabal are just a lot of BS. Ya all need to figure this out! If you are hanging on every article, every call and every blog chat, you will loose your sanity. Get a life! You deserve it. Gut check #4

To Dr Clarke,

Thanks for your writings. Honestly, I did not believe your September prediction. I just thought that Iraq was not ready and they still has more to get done before "they" would give them permission to pull the trigger.

I like your writings. They are straight up and mostly to the point. Please keep it up.

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texcat
10/11/2016 11:35:12 am
Well said.
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Diana
10/11/2016 11:11:25 am
Dr. Clarke sir,
You said you were expecting the rate to be lower than everyone else. Does that include those who say one dollar to one dinar?
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EdoBini
10/11/2016 11:34:33 am
Dr Clarke, l thank you for all your efforts. You have tried. l also appreciates what Frank 29, Delta and BGG have to say. Anyone who boost Zim as a currency worthy of RV is a fraud and they it.
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texcat
10/11/2016 11:46:52 am
Dr. Clarke.

Much gratitude & thanks for sharing your insight & opinions with us. I enjoy & look forward to every post, as do the majority, from the responses. The information you share resonates with those looking for truth in this gamble & life.

Until next time, thanks again & all my best.
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Lifeisgood
10/11/2016 11:56:35 am
My first post didn´t get published so here I go again:
Thank you so much again for useful information, Dr. Clarke! I have some questions:
Will the decisions at the Opec-meeting in end November drive the oilprice towards 100 US?
I understand the Rv needs funding, but how is Vietnam funding since "it´s ready to go anytime"?
Who is deciding when Vietnam can go? US, IMF, UN, China?
Please come back soon and let your insights shine upon us all.
Take care and thank´s for everything so far.
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GeoworldGeorgewest link
10/11/2016 12:52:35 pm
Dr Clarke God Bless U and your Family. Stick with us we like your info. Some people don't understand this deal. That's ok. Please stick with us till we get over this fence. lol Hopefully 2017 we will be Smiling. XOX
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Gia
10/11/2016 01:41:10 pm

Dear Dr. Clarke,

Thank you for posting, FINALLY the one I was waiting for.

I have lots of questions. Lets gamble shall we.. I am giving Recaps permission to pass along my email address.

If you so choose. If not THANK YOU for everything from this very second way back to January. You brought excitement back to the ride can't ask for more.

Take Care of Yourself.
Gia~
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Tom
10/11/2016 03:12:35 pm
Hi Dr Clark,
Thank you for being truthful. We like your post.
It is just so many people have different motives for posting
different info. It is all just speculation like our investment.
The last revaluation took place in late January. I believe
most speculative investments happen in the winter months.

Tom
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[url=http://Dinar Recaps]Louise[/url] [url=http://Dinar Recaps]link[/url]
10/11/2016 05:11:24 pm
Again, thanks so much for the time you (all) pour into giving a slew of strangers a treasure trove of much-desired insight (not to mention inspiration).

As I ponder it all I wonder thusly: If major problem(s) defeat the planned "window" each and every time the IQD value is to be substantially increased, how is it to be done? At what point, if any, will the desired outcome outweigh the difficulties/tragedies at hand? Putting natural disasters to the side, is it realistic to believe there will ever be a sufficiently untroubled time frame where there is a "plan?"

Perhaps this question is nonsensical, but in your opinion is it possible to make a virtually lightning-fast change that would preempt opposition? And if so, do you think it would ever be attempted?
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RayRat Call 10/7/16

RayRen:  Good afternoon, superfantastic TNT family!  Today is Friday, October 7, 2016, yours truly RayRen98 here.  This call should be even shorter than the last one!  There is no brand new intel to give you;  we are still on schedule so far as I know.  Everything should be done by Wednesday of next week, although we can see it any time up to that day.  Iraqi cards should be funded.

Banks thought they would see us yesterday;  some folks had appointments and attempted to exchange but it would not grow through. They are going back the first of the week.  Some with appointments today, but we haven’t heard from them yet.  Supposedly some private exchanges have taken place – haven’t confirmed those.  We should be realizing some of that activity based on where we are in the grand scheme of things.  I had expected to be hearing about private exchanges, so I’m not surprised to be hearing that.  I know the banks were expecting to see a LOT of us yesterday.  Some banks are bringing people in to talk, and suggesting they bring in their currency to exchange.

One or two of my sources have dried up, and I’m assuming that they have concluded their business and now have to keep quiet.  You can infer a lot from what a person doesn’t say.  If they say they will report back after their exchange, and they don’t report back, what with NDAs… that may be an indicator.  I’m okay with just knowing we are in the window still.

Questions from the TNT forum:

Q:  Last night on the National News it was reported Rothschild was banned from entering Russia.?  A:

Q:  Can you please tell us how many zeros will be taken off the dinar or dong – at least a guess??  A:  I have not heard of any zeros being taken of either one of those… never.

Q:  I am having trouble getting on the conference calls on my cell phone.  A:  I suggest going to the internet or try 805-360-1075.

Q:  Is the time frame showing down?  A:  I think it just feels like that.

Live questions:

865/404 caller:  What impact, if any, are the issues at Deutsche Bank and the GBP affecting this RV/GCR.

RayRen:  I don’t think there is enough information out there to answer that. \

Caller:  Do you think it is all a distraction, or just another issue out there?  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas, and I’m looking forward to RV day ten days later to help humanity.

210 caller:  [Appreciation]  Is it wise to ask if there is a contract rate for the dong?

RayRen:  We’ve always heard that there would be.  I’m expecting a contract rate for ever currency being exchanged!

Caller:  I had a conversation with branch managers this morning to see if the bank rate had evolved;  they hadn’t but the managers agreed to phone me when it does.  Any chance of getting onto OpenMic?

RayRen:  Lately we’ve had a few people drop off, which opens up the room for new people to come in.  OM was full, and that’s why we never promoted it.  Are you on your cell phone?  Do you have my email address?  I will text it to you;  we have room for one more, so I’ll get you into OpenMic.  Hopefully there will still be a need for OM!  In the next chapter, OM won’t play that heavily, but it will still be a good tool to tie up loose ends.  We’ll be heading on a different level of education and information.

Caller:  I look forward to receiving the contact information.  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!

619 caller:  All this currency is controlled by the US government, right?  If so, and if the government has given this task to the banks, then I’m guessing that the movement of monies after exchange may not be in concert with constitutional principles.  [??]

RayRen:  I don’t have the detailed information to answer your question intelligently.

610 caller:  Please go to www.tntsuperfantastic.com;  click on the DONATE button, etc.  [You can also send a check to Ray Renfrow P.O. Box 1748, Elm City, NC 27822.]

386 caller:  If people are exchanging, how is double-dipping prevented.

RayRen:  It probably isn’t.  Some people have signed agreements that they won’t buy more currency, but some have not.  I’m hearing both sides of that.

Caller:  What if there is a busy signal for 24 hours on the 800 numbers – do you stay on the line?  Or do you keep on calling in until someone answers?

RayRen:  I would keep trying until I’m successful.

Caller:  Can I get on the OpenMic as well, please?  [Appreciation]

RayRen:  I will text you with the details – I can squeeze in two.

406 caller:  I wonder if I could be #3 to get on OpenMic?

RayRen:  I could have sworn I heard your voice on OM!  I’ll make you #3…

Caller:  Where can I find the list of Ten Things to remember?  I know I have to change my number before going to the bank…

RayRen:  It’s not a hard and fast rule, but if you want to avoid being solicited…

609 caller:  You said on the call last week that people you know with SKRs were to be paid – anything on that?

RayRen:  That didn’t happen, to the best of my knowledge… or at least not yet. They were not given any reasons, but that might not matter after today.

601 caller:  Did you say something about ‘next week’?

RayRen:  I said the same thing on Wednesday, that it will go any time from now until next Wednesday, according to the information I have.   It’s not an exact science.

Caller:  How are people exchanging without rates?

RayRen:  Banks have the rates on their screens, and some have accepted lower rates in order to have earlier exchanges… or that is what I believe.

601 caller:  I’ve been sending you emails for 3-4 weeks.  I bought currency without my spouse’s knowledge, and we are thinking of divorce.  I think you told one lady that you have information hat might help her with that situation. Can you give me the same?

RayRen:  I guess we can work that out.  I didn’t realize there were so many potential breakups – lots of people sending me emails.  I missed yours or didn’t have time to respond.  How about you call me when it’s convenient to you.  I’ll send you my number.

517 caller:  If you still have a spot open, I’d love to join OpenMic, too.

RayRen:  You would be #4 then.

409 caller:   We are 85 miles east of Houston;  do you know of any exchange places betwwen Beaumont and Houston?

RayRen: Any bank that is exchanging foreign currency will (at the proper time) probably exchange your currency.  If/when we put out the 800 numbers, they will tell you where to go.  In any case, call the banks in your area to find out if they do foreign currency exchange, without mentioning dinar or dong. If they do, they’ll probably exchange you once this pops.  Also ask if they verify it on site.  The banks that say Yes will be the bans that you start with, even if you call the 800 number.  “You better shop around…” This is your financial future!

Caller:  [Appreciation]

RayRen:  As long as your mentality is ‘pay it forward’, that’s pay enough for me.  Provide the opportunity for others to learn what you have learned here.  I heard from a person the other day who went into the bank, and ‘based on what you guys have been teaching us, I felt 100% in control the whole hour and a half I was there.”  They didn’t get the exchange done, but made a further appointment. This story tells me that this person will be ready when RV time comes.  We are talking, sharing and teaching;  when it happens, we will have that information  but until then we work on getting the pertinent information so you can be prepared and be in control when it goes.

909 caller:  In the past, we listened to Tony and DC, and there was a lot of discussion about documentation from meetings about the RV here and in Iraq, both hard copies of deposit slips, and audio recordings;  they said that if the government tried to squeeze us out, they would use that evidence to make sure we are taken care of  Is that still a fact?

RayRen:  Yes, and they intend to keep their end of the bargain.  As long as we are still hearing about contract rates, we continue to play the game as designed.

305 caller:  I was hoping to join OpenMic – could you put me on the list, please?  Also, I am still waiting for the information for the meet-and-greet in Miami!

RayRen:  Why didn’t you remind me?!  You don’t have access to the TNT site?  Oh, man… a few more people will probably leave and create some more openings.  I will make a note of your number and send you the information.  I’m sorry we missed you!

313 caller:  I was also trying for a spot on OM…

RayRen:  There were only four spots that I know about.  Now I’m probably going to get hit with a bunch of emails.  You’re in Detroit, right?  Why didn’t I see you while I was there?

310 caller:  I would also like to join OpenMic.

RayRen:  I will see what I can do.

[I had to leave the call here; for the closing statement, check Sunny’s Cliff Notes.]

RayRen played I Believe:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DYrqOUKLtA

Frank26 says there should be a change currency THIS YEAR

 Frank26  

[size=18]ARTICLE: “The catastrophic corruption between banks and companies in the sale of the American Dollar is coming to an end.” 

NINE EXAMPLES that CORRUPTION in IRAQ is being killed:

#1 -- The policing of the United Nation groups, new laws, new banking systems being implemented.
#2 -- The currency auctions are being monitored. That was the hole in the bottom of the ship.
#3 – No more false names / dead people / false companies, etc.
#4 – The USD needs to stop being used (MCP) – which has been used at the borders
#5 – No more false bills / PO’s.
#6 – No false accounts...
#7 – No more diffusion of payments to false areas (building fake parks, etc).
#8 – The antiquated banking systems had to stop
#9 – No more false passports to transport IQD out of country.
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  Bagdad, Basrah, Mosul, Erbil, Sulaimaniyah...These 5 cities are where the five Central Banks of Iraq are.  We have 4 out of 5...secured...all that is missing is Mosul.  In other words...the catastrophic corruption (think GOI/CBI) between banks (think Auctions) and companies in the sale of the American Dollar is coming to an end.”  So, they are following the IMF’s instructions...inventorying their product (currency).

  IMO … I believe we are going to see a budget...by the 3rd week of this month...and see a change in their monetary policy and a change in their currency...THIS YEAR! I’m not giving you a date...but before the end of this year...we are going to see a change.

~~~~~~~~~~~

BONDS...in my opinion, it does appear that the USA will not back up the BONDS that the GOI wants to sell. Remember, back in December, the IMF told the GOI that they were going to help them – if they raised the value of their currency.  Well, here we are...upon the prepuces of the monetary reform...and Abadi saying they have done everything...well...IF... you have done everything...they get LOANS don’t they?

 I have not seen the CBI website show me a new rate for the IQD.  They have not changed it officially.  DO THEY WANT THE LOANS...the 640 Million Dollar Loan.

 They will get that WHEN they raise the value of their currency...and if they don’t...they won’t get the BONDS.  This is not bad news.

 This is fantastic news!

10.05.2016

The Big Fat Yuan

25 Jul 2015  




Most people in the USA and the world for that matter do not understand the world currency market, nor do they care. We move along with our life, bitch about the price of gas and the ever increasing price of goods and services due to inflation. Life is good and we dabble a little here and there in investments in the stock markets and occasionally glance at our 401k.



So why should I care about the foreign exchange market Forex?

The foreign exchange trading  is some 60 times larger than annual world trade. A lot of money is won or lost in the foreign exchange market!

OK, so why do I care again? It’s not like I’m going to trade currencies or get involved in that crazy Forex stuff.

We have all heard one time or another that the US dollar is the reserve currency.

What does that mean, RESERVE CURRENCY?

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_currency

A reserve currency (or anchor currency) is a currency that is held in significant quantities by governments and institutions as part of their foreign exchange reserves. The reserve currency is commonly used in international transactions and often considered a hard currency or safe-haven currency. People who live in a country that issues a reserve currency can purchase imports and borrow across borders more cheaply than people in other nations because they don’t need to exchange their currency to do so.



So that is why we get stuff so cheap and control the world economy by profiting on the fact that other countries have to pay an exchange rate to convert their money into dollars to buy something.



US Dollar accounts for over 62% of the trade and the Euro about 22%.

This is why we can lean on other nations and prevent money laundering throughout the world.



Well, not so fast!

Somebody has been making a concerned effort to change the scope of reserve currencies.

Any guesses?

That’s right China.

China has been lobbying the IMF to become a reserve currency. The expected date is somewhere in October, 2015.

Yeah so what?



So consider steps already taken by China.

1. China has established Yuan Exchanges World Wide
   
   
2. Countries are bypassing the US Dollar by using these Yuan Exchanges like Russia. Even Canada is bypassing the US dollar which is why their currency is worth more than ours now.
   
   
3. China has a massive Gold reserve.
   
   
4. China’s Executive Order NCO1 – also known as the New Currency Order
   

OK, I get the first 2 on the list, China is bypassing the US dollar and we are losing billions a year in exchange rates, but what do I care about #3 (Gold) or #4 (NCO1)?

#3 – We all know that our currency (US Dollar) was once backed by gold and that Nixon took us off the Gold Standard. Most people don’t remember though that FDR (Franklin Roosevelt) also took us off the Gold Standard. To save a lot of time and make the story short, because I really don’t want to go into a lot of detail about the Gold Standard, you can read about it here: http://useconomy.about.com/od/monetarypolicy/p/gold_history.htm

Basically the gold reserve got so depleted, Nixon took us off the Gold Standard and the economy and everything else started to “go to hell in a hand basket“. Nixon had to freeze wages and prices to prevent an economic collapse. Hence the reason for Executive Order 11615.

Silver rose almost 700% in value during that period. If you don’t have some physical silver, the time is now to buy it while it’s still really cheap.

It is argued that we have little or no gold left. Ron Paul has questioned this issue and has repeatedly called for an audit of Fort Knox.

Source: http://www.wallstreetdaily.com/2013/07/16/fort-knox-gold/



Remember old cliches like “The Golden Rule” or “He who has the Gold, makes the rules”? Well folks, if we really don’t have a substantial cache of gold, we will not be making the rules.



#4 – China’s Executive Order NCO1



China is already bypassing the US Dollar with the Yuan Exchanges. The extent of which threatens the US Dollar as the primary reserve currency. It is predicted that if the Yuan becomes the primary reserve currency (over 50%) and replaces the US Dollar, your savings, stocks and bonds will be dramatically devalued against the Yuan the new primary reserve currency because the US Dollar will no longer be needed for trade and the Petro Dollar which I have discussed before, will cease to exist.



Besides buying silver, gold and other commodities and precious metals, many individuals and banks have been buying what is called A-Shares and B-Shares.

So what are those?



A shares are shares of the Renminbi currency that are purchased and traded on the Shanghai and Shenzhen stock exchanges. This is contrast to Renminbi B shares which are owned by foreigners who cannot purchase A-shares due to Chinese government restrictions.



Source: http://lexicon.ft.com/Term?term=A_share%2FB_share-markets

But in the end, the Chinese control these markets, so do you really think they will play fair even if you hedge your bet with A/B Shares? The Chinese could literally wipe out foreign investments, taking your money and pocketing a lot of your cash.

I think Obama would have his excuse to declare martial law and take your guns suspending all elections and declaring himself King.

Welcome to the age of: “The Big Fat Yuan”

Update: Well as I have mentioned folks

RE: But in the end, the Chinese control these markets, so do you really think they will play fair even if you hedge your bet with A/B Shares? The Chinese could literally wipe out foreign investments, taking your money and pocketing a lot of your cash.

Response: The Chinese devaluation of the Yuan twice from 6.0 to 6.4 Yuan for each USD by 8/12/2015 has of course had investors, especially in the A/B shares shirking. Plus the Chinese have banned large share holders from selling their shares for 6 months. What do you think the Chinese have in store for everyone in the next six months from July 2015 to Christmas? I don’t think they will give everyone the present they expect. China just made a bunch of money at the large banks that invested their future in these shares. Who do you think the big banks are going to look too, to recover their loses? That’s right. YOU!



Banks include and are also own oil companies are taking a major hit. Chances are they also own your mortgage.

IMF just announced that the Yuan is now a recognized reserve currency as of 10-23-2016 and has over taken the Euro. Euro was 22%, USA dollar 62%. So now the Yuan is over 22%? Somebody is losing the currency market and you want to bet who it is? That’s right, the USA dollar.

Expect around Feb-April area to have your retirement accounts to shrink to 20-30% of what they are worth. You ready for that?



Who is heavily invested in the oil companies and why you should care if the banks fail? This article may open up your eyes: http://www.api.org/~/media/Files/Statistics/Who-Owns-US-Oil-and-Natural-Gas-Companies-Shapiro-Pham-study.pdf

http://dickrundell.com/the-big-fat-yuan/

You Are Being “Played”

You Are Being “Played”

September 27, 2016 by Dane Arr

Even though we in Dinarland think we are helping the RV go, we are being Played by CABAL tricks to keep it from going. You are being used and you don’t even know it. Here is how they are “Playing You” to keep the RV from happening. There are two main groups that are being manipulated, the Un-Aware General Public, and the Aware Dinarland.

How Negative or Positive Vibration Influence Events

The whole point is that there has to be a high Vibration of Working Out, to support and Cause the High Vibration Working Out RV Event. Simply stated: High Working Out Vibrations Create Working Out Events. On the other hand, increased NOT Working Out Vibrations prevent good things from happening (Not Supported) and instead create/cause bad (not working out) things to happen.

How “They” Play The Un-Aware General Public

Of course, the General Public has no Idea about the RV/NESARA that will change their lives for the better. This is a GREAT (Working Out) event that is “Pending” in their future. When will it happen for them? Simple, when the vibration of working out is strong enough to tip the scales toward starting the (Working Out) RV/NESARA event.
So, what do the CABAL do to keep the General Public’s Vibrations low? They have shootings which scare people into worrying. They bring in immigrants to take their jobs so that the general public stress over that issue. They put lead in their water, pollute the environment, threaten Martial Law, offer unsuitable candidates for president. They do everything they can to scare people into worry and fear to keep the vibration low preventing “Good – Working Out” things from happening.
The Un-Aware General Public is being played just like a fiddle. Pluck this string and they are mad, pluck another string and they are afraid, and pluck another string and they worry that there will be war, or martial law or some other catastrophe.
However, there is a VERY HUGE benefit of all this manipulation of the General Public, for every pain, worry and sorrow, they wish for and hope for things to get better. This is creating a HUGE “Potential” working out vibration waiting to be activated. That is, when the RV/NESARA does happen, and they will realize that everything they ever hoped for is coming true, they will swing their vibrations to the working outside so fast and hard that everything good can start happening all at once. At that point, when you have the entire General Public move their vibration to the Working out, high vibration side, the CABAL are finished. there will be NO vibration support for their agenda.

How “They” Play Dinarland

It is easy to Play the General Public because they have no idea they are being played. They think that all these false flag events are real and everything on TV and in the news is real. But we in Dinarland know better. We know the game the CABAL plays with the sleeping Public, but, we are being played in a different way, and don’t even know it. Here is how.
Remember that the “Dividing Line” is between Working Out and NOT Working Out. They Play the sleeping public by using false flag events, for example, to get the General Public to believe things are not working out (Low Vibration). However, we think that we are smarter than that because we know that those events are staged and so we are not tricked or influenced to the Not Working Out Vibrations side.
Guess What? They know that play doesn’t work on you, so they use one that does. They infiltrate Dinarland with fake Dinarland members and they get you to think that things are not working out for you. They keep telling you that the RV/NESARA will not happen, or that it will be much later, or that the rates will be very low. That has kept you worried and stressed for a long time…. But times are changing.
While these “Plays” have been effective for a long time to keep Dinarland down in a not working out state of mind, their effectiveness is now dropping. We know the RV/NESARA is going to happen, and now we can tell that it will be happening very soon, and Dinarland knows to ask for the higher rates no matter what they have been told. This is causing the Working Out Vibration to rise up and get stronger and stronger. Frankly it is just about to go…. But, it hasn’t. Why not?

The “Plays” That No Longer Work In Dinarland

They lost the “It will never RV” play because everyone knows it will. They lost the “You have to be in a group” play because everyone knows that it not true, in fact you are probably better off exchanging individually. They lost the “no such thing as NESARA” play because clearly there is, and it is way bigger and way better than we ever knew. They lost the “ZIM won’t revalue or is worthless” play because as it turns out, it is the most valuable currency on the Planet. What does this mean? It means that you aren’t going to feel bad about the RV, NESARA, Exchanging Individually, or the Value on ZIM and the other currencies. In short you feel strongly that it is working out, and you should, which means you are bringing in RV/NESARA even Faster!!!!

The Newest “Play” Being Used Against Dinarland

They have a new way to make you mad, feel like things are not working out and to keep you upset generally. That play is the “Blame The GURUs” Play. This is a genius Play by the CABAL. The way it works is if they can get you to distrust and be upset with the very people who are bringing you the most information, they not only keep you upset, but they can also keep the truth from you.
Think about it for a minute. Who are the GURUs that are getting the most heat? That’s right, the ones who are bringing you the most behind the scenes info on the defeat of the CABAL. How they are being arrested, and all the other things that are being done to them and what they are losing etc. Don’t you know that is PSY-OPS 101? Infiltrate their group and get people in that group to distrust and hate the very people who are helping them. STOP IT WITH THIS GURU HATING ALREADY!!

We Are The Key That Unlocks The RV/NESARA Event

People who are “Un-Aware” have very little influence on the World. They just go with the flow no matter which way it is going. It is not to say that their vibration doesn’t count, because it does, but, they are not voting for themselves, but we are. Since we know and are Aware, we DECIDE our thoughts and that makes us thousands of times more powerful than those who do not. So, how do we get the General Public to change their mind about how bad the World is, and get them on our side of “Working out?”
VERY SIMPLY BY HOLDING OUR OWN VIBRATION ON WORKING OUT. How can we expect the public, who has nothing to believe in, to think that things are working out, when we, holding Millions, Billions and Trillions of dollars worth of currency in our hands, knowing we are about to be living the life of our dreams, can’t think that it is working out?
If this were a corporation, we would be the voting members and the general public votes would be decided for them by us. WE MUST VOTE WORKING OUT AT ALL TIMES BECAUSE OUR VOTES COUNT!!!!!
Re-Think Where You Are (Right Now)
I mean RIGHT NOW, throw everything out the window and reset your mind.
Ready?
#1) You are holding currencies that are worth at least Millions of Dollars, if not Billions and even Trillions. Think about that…
#2) You know that means that for the first time in your life you will really be able to do what you want to do and live your dream life. Think about that…
#3) You know that good times are coming which allows you to feel confident in the future which most of the world doesn’t get to feel. Think about that…
#4) You know that the Bad guys in the World are being eliminated and that this World will be at peace and you will be SAFE forever more. Think about that…
#5) You know that there will be a change in our government and governments around the World that will benefit mankind for once. Think about that…
#6) Speaking for the U.S., IRS and the Fed will be abolished forever and a much better and safer financial system will soon take its place. Think about that…
#7) You know that this is an unstoppable World event that is just about to happen. Think about that…
Now, take a moment and reflect on just how good things really are for you and for the World. Are you feeling just how good it is for you? Would you say that things are REALLY WORKING OUT FOR YOU? Good! Now stay there.
Does it really matter, in the big picture, if a GURU gets the date right or not? Will that stop you from getting everything that is coming to you or change all the good that is happening in the World? No! You know the answer is no. You cannot make a case for hating the very people who are trying their best to bring you all the info they can, at their own expense of time, and criticism they suffer.
How Pathetic of Us
How pathetic of us to be talked into hating our own? You know that other people are working and dying to bring this magnificent change to the World for our Benefit. Are we really going to let the infiltrators keep our hopes down and talk us into turning on our OWN INTEL PROVIDERS? That is a SICK CABAL PLAY.
I can easily imagine the CABAL Planning session, One evil doer says to the others:
“Those people in Dinarland are finding out to much about what is going on. Their Intel Providers are saying to much about us and the RV!!!! They are feeling great about the RV/NESARA no matter what we do!!!!”
Then they complain “What can we do about it?”
Then they hatch a their evil plan: “Let’s get them to turn against their own Intel providers, that way they will distrust everything they are bringing into Dinarland!!!”
Then they complain “How can we do that when everything they are saying is true?”
They figure out the way: “That is simple. Since most of what they are telling can’t be proved yet, we can say that it is all lies, and we can also say that they never get the dates right!!!! If we can get them to distrust their own Intel providers, they will fight among themselves and lower their own vibrations.”
Did this meeting actually happen? Maybe. We know that there are Trolls, moles, and nay-sayers in our midst. They all want to bring us down. Will they succeed? That is up to you.

Know This: You Already Have It Made!

• You are holding Valuable Currency in a World that is changing for the good. You already have it made.
  
• You will soon be living the life of your dreams. You already have it made.
  
• The environment will soon be pollution free and our food will be good to eat. You already have it made.
  
• You will be living in a World that is Safe in every way. You already have it made.
  
• Bla, Bla, Bla… No Matter What… You already have it made.
  
• The Guru quotes a Date that does not happen… So What, You already have it made.
  
• The Guru says something that is unproven… So What, You already have it made.
  
• The Guru says something that is improvable… So What, You already have it made.
  
• The Guru says something that sounds crazy… So What, You already have it made.
  
• Something happens, or doesn’t happen… So What, You already have it made.
  

The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that “You Already Have It Made.” Nothing else matters. The only question now is will it happen sooner or later? That my friend, lies in your hands. Will you stay in the hopeful, working out place of a high Vibration making it happen NOW, or will you fall for the Not working out tricks of the CABAL, causing your vibration to be very low forcing the RV/NESARA to wait a bit longer?
In Short: High Vibration of Happy, Working Out states of mind Speeds it up, while the Low Vibration of being unhappy, not working out, slows it way down.
As for me, I am staying very excited, expectant, and happy for whatever information I am offered. I know that it doesn’t matter whether it is accurate or not, so what! I am still holding valuable currency in a World changing for the good, meaning I already have it made. That is my Vibration and I am sticking with it no matter what!!!!!!
How about you?
May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams
 
Signed: One Who Believes


http://prepareforchange.net

9/21/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

[b]Guru JohnnyWG:  [/b]QUOTE UN QUOTE "GOVERNOR SHABIBI STATES THEIR INTENTION IS TO HAVE THE STRONGEST RESERVE CURRENCY.  YOU CANNOT DO THAT WITH OUT AN RV


Guru Adam Montana:   the Chapter 7 sanctions CAN be lifted independently, and they have been lifting them regularly for some time now. There are only a few left, and they are the big ones.  the final sanctions remaining prohibit Iraq from possessing any kind of WMD[weapons of mass destruction].  to allow the value of the Dinar to rise at this point in time, when Iraq basically has a hand tied behind it's back, would be foolish and irresponsible.  I believe there is a push to get Chapter 7 done ASAP. it's a steady progression and a calculated series of moves between Iraq and the world, in particular the IMF and the UN.  once the UN agrees to lift those chapter 7 sanctions, I don't see how the IMF can or would stop the rate from rising.

This is my opinion,  to sum it up: "If Iraq RVs too low, the big investors will come in strong and make all the profit." This is an understandable assumption, but it is WRONG.  yes, the big investors will come in and buy it up if they feel it is going to continue to rise and if the rate SHOULD be $1, but it comes out at .10  then of COURSE they will come in and buy it up!  but at that point, no more large denoms will be being printed.  the CBI has already accounted for the currency in circulation at that point.   follow closely here, I know many people want to hear it will RV to $3 or $4.   I think it will come out much lower, then climb up to that range because if they come out high, then they have an IMMEDIATE LIABILITY - a LOT of money owed to cash in the dinar currently in circulation but if they come out low, like at .10 - then they can grab up a bunch of the quick sellers, and resell at a higher rate,  remember, the CBI makes money on every transaction,  so the more times they can get people to buy and cash in, the more money they make. if they come out at .10, then raise to .15, then raise to .20. all the way to $3.00... they make MUCH more than if they do a straight RV to $3.   HOPEFULLY we will be able to hold our currency and...just wait until it hits $3 to sell.  if they place a limit on time to cash in the big notes, then we just take our profit and be happy.  I hope I'm wrong!

my opinion of it EVER rv'ing is absolutely yes.  in my opinion
Thanksgiving is PLENTY of time to get this thing done. So the surrounding months are close too.   HCL was not passed today. The agreements are in place but it is not officially lifted...don't buy into the hype unless you see it on a legitimate news site.  if you are a dinar investor, you will hear a lot of crazy things from bank rumors to alien takeovers, all of them claiming the RV is done...if you hear it on the street or on another site... I'm sorry, but most of the time those turn out to be 100% false.


Guru BGG:   all that crap about Maliki "having to" step down is just not the truth....It is a far easier and quicker solution for them to put a "muzzle" on him some other way and leave him in power (by 1/3 anyway).  him stepping down is obviously one scenario, not the one they have opted for.  Dr Shabibi doesn't "ask" anyone - he can pull the trigger right this second if he so desires.   It very well can happen soon.


Guru Med:   SHABIBI WAS TOLD BY PARLIAMENTS FINANCE COMMITTEE TO PLEASE DO A REPORT ON THE IMPACT ETC...HE SAID ALL WAS ALREADY DONE AND THE ENTIRE DRAFT WAS IN THERE ALSO.  LETS LOOK AT THE REASONS FOR THEM DOING THIS #1   HYPERINFLATION #2  INCREASED CORE INFLATION INDEX  #3  JUMP START THE ECONOMY  #4  ATTRACT INVESTORS.  SHABIBI SAID THAT THEY ARE CLOSING IN ON REDLINE AND HE WOULD DO IT HIMSELF.  HE DIDNT SAY A YEAR FROM NOW.  HE IS THE MAN, HE PULLS THE TRIGGER

I CAN JUST SEE THE CONVERSATION WITH MOON - MOON: STOP THREATENING COUNTRIES IN YOUR REGION.  MALIKI: NO.  MOON: SETTLE YOUR DEBTS WITH KUWAIT.  MALIKI: NO.  MOON: HONOR THE AGREEMENT YOU SIGNED WITH THE KURDS AND LIST.  MALIKI: NO.  MALIKI: BY THE WAY CAN YOU REALEASE US FROM CHAPTER VII, I THINK WE COMPLIED.  IF HE THINKS REVERSING HIS STAND ON SYRIA MAKES A DIFFERENCE WITH THE UN, IT DOESNT.  IT IS THE KUWAITI FILES STUPID, SETTLE THEM. 


Guru DonnieR:    ScottiG asked me to jump on my camel Harvey and travel to Baghdad to slap the crap out of Shabibi and tell him to pull the trigger and get this done as we are sick and tired of waiting. I told Shabibi I'm here to assist in making sure we have an RV before Friday and perhaps as soon as tomorrow. So far he has agreed with my terms, everything is going well and is on schedule.


Guru Okie Oilman:  IT IS A LITTLE HARD TO MAKE HEADS OR TAILS OUT OF INFORMATION RECEIVED TODAY BUT----TOMORROW MAY BE AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE R/V. IF NOT IT MAY GO INTO NEXT TUES WED OR THURS---RIGHT NOW AT THIS MOMENT THINGS LOOKS VERY GOOD

THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT THIS EXACT MOMENT IN TIME AS PER OKIE--THE ERBIL AGREEMENT HAS BEEN RATIFIED--THE HCL LAW HAS BEEN PASSED AND PUBLISHED--MOST OF CHAPTER 7 (EXCLUDING A MINOR ISSUE WITH KUWAIT) HAS BEEN RELEASED. SHABBI LAST WEEKEND MADE A SPEECH ENCOMPASSING THE FACT THE DINAR WILL BE R/V'D BY OCT 1 OR BEFORE. SHABBI STATED THE IQD WILL BE THE MOST VALUABLE CURRENCY IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND SOON WOULD BE CONSIDERED AS 1 OF THE WORLDS RESERVE CURRENCY. BANKS INTERNATIONALLY HAS BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE IMMINENCE OF THE R/V. MANY BANKS HAVE AND ARE SETTING UP ACCOUNTS FOR DINAR HOLDERS. THE IMF IS COUNTING HEAVILY ON THE R/V TO HELP THE ENTIRE WORLD’S ECONOMY TO RE-SET---OKIE SAID HE COULD GO ON AND ON BUT THIS SHOULD ALLEVIATE ANY CONCERNS OVER THE INEVITABILITY OR IMMINENCE OF THIS OCCURRING VERY SOON----THAT SHOULD SATISFY ALL WHO ARE CONCERNED OVER THEIR INVESTMENT AT THIS TIME----SIT BACK AND LET IT COME TO YOU----YOU CAN'T GO TO IT

MALIKI WAS FORCED INTO AGREEMENT ABOUT THE ERBIL AGREEMENT---HE HAD NO CHOICE. THE STOCK EXCHANGE IN BAGHDAD GOING GLOBAL HAS MORE FAR REACHING IMPLICATIONS THAN MOST CAN COMPREHEND. THERE ARE FAR TOO MANY ON THIS SITE POSTING THEIR OWN OPINIONS THAT HAS ENTIRELY NO RELEVANCE TO THE SITUATION THAT IS NOW UNFOLDING RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYES----YOUR PERSONAL OPINIONS MEAN NOTHING IN THE OVER ALL SCHEME OF THINGS


Guru Bulldog75:   THIS RATE SHOULD POST BETWEEN NOW WED AND BEFORE 2AM FRIDAY. THURSDAY LOOKS TO BE THE BEST DAY. IRAQ IS READY. THE BIG 3 BANKS ARE READY. SOME BANKS BEING DELIVERED DELA RUE MACHINES TODAY. MANAGERS AND PRES ARE ON ALERT. WE HAVE SOLID INFO THIS IS ABOUT TO DOMINO; AND ITS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. THURSDAY IS MORE THE "TARGET TIME".

WE ARE NOW IN A "48 HOUR COUNTDOWN WINDOW"; THIS SHOULD POST BETWEEN 2AM NOW WED AND BEFORE 2AM FRIDAY; MOST LIKELY SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

OKIE DISCLOSED MANY HINTS EARLIER TONITE BUT I WAS SO SURPRISED THAT MANY EITHER MISSED IT OR WAS DISTRACTED BY THE OTHER EVENTS ON THE SITE. HE GAVE YOU EVERY HINT IN THE WORLD. WE HAVE MORE THAN AMPLE EVIDENCE THIS IS ABOUT TO DOMINO; AND ITS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

THURSDAY IS MORE THE "TARGET TIME". THANKS FOR YOUR PRAYERS, LOVE, HAPPINESS THAT WE ALL SHARE WITH ONE ANOTHER. REMEMBER THAT ISX OPENS THURSDAY; THEY GOTTA HAVE 'MOOLA' TO OPERATE A WORLD CURRENCY.

THIS WILL PROBABLY IGNITE PRETTY MUCH NEAR SAME SEQUENCE FOR EVERYONE; DONT FEEL THERE WILL BE ANY MAJOR LAG TIME BETWEEN TIME ZONES. WE ARE IN GREAT SHAPE; THANKS FOR EVERYONE'S HELP. WE HAVE BEEN A GREAT TEAM TOGETHER; ALL OF YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTED IMMENSELY. THIS HAS BEEN FUN AND ADVENTURESOME.

THE GOOD LORD BRINGS HIS GIFTS OF LOVE AND CURRENCY TO US. BELIEVE AND KNOW. WE ARE CHOSEN TO BE HERE. WE ARE BLESSED AND HIGHLY FAVORED. SLEEP WELL. WE KNOW THERE IS MUCH TO DO FOR OUR FAMILIES.

WE ARE ALL A BLESSING AND LOVE FOR ONE ANOTHER. SUPER TEAM. THANK YOU ALL. WE ARE HERE AND ONE

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


Guru Bear5642:   ARE WE READY FOR AN RV???? AMAZING HOW EVERYTHING IS LINING UP. I AM WAITING ON A CALL FROM THE ASSISTANT MANAGER AT A FOREIGN CURRENCY EXCHANGE OFFICE AT A VERY LARGE BANK. NO ITS NOT ME ITS THE PEOPLE WHO TRUST ME AND THAT I HAVE FAVOR WITH GOT ANOTHER SOURCE COMING ON LINE SOMETIME THIS EVENING AND IT WILL BE A DOZY

I HAVE RECEIVED A RATE AND THEY ARE ALL THE SAME AND OKIE TOLD ME TO NOT PUT A RATE OUT UNTIL I SPEAK WITH HIM SORRY BUT IT IS A LOT HIGHER THAN 1.78 LOL.  I WILL CALL OKIE AFTER I GET MY SOURCE TO CALL ME I HAVE SOMEONE HELPING ME WHO I COMPLETELY TRUST AND I WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS RATE.  FROM WHATS COMING IN THE RATE IS SWEET.  OVER $3


Guru Randy Koonce:   Tomorrow should be a big day announcing GOI, and Erbil lets hope nothing gets in the way.


Guru Gary:  Each day we have gotten further confirmations…just waiting to see it in writing… had a call last night that said the HCL was completed and would be published and that the political situation was coming to a head over there and would be published…don’t know how long it takes to be published…the process of releasing this has not been aborted….Was just on hold...everyone just waiting for the light to change and everyone to be able to cash in…that meeting in the UN to take the final pieces of Ch. 7 away…. Caught us off guard cause we thought that was all done.


Guru TNT Tony:  TONY says it is good news – confirmed and make extra calls we are very close – we got HCL approved again and I got the article again as we saw this 3 weeks ago and again today the difference is this will show up in the gazette or its already there in the gazette….

We saw the TV explanations of the lower denoms this weekend too – we got confirmation about lower denoms being out now and the HCL and this is coming from inside sources in Bagdad who work and live in Baghdad and they are a part of this that’s all I can tell you….

Lower Denoms, HCL, Erbil Agreement DONE – and one thing left to do ………. Banks were changing on the screens today and extra people will be coming in this week based on the info we are getting, FOREX see things happening on their boards and received memos to get ready for transformation…We are hearing good news and I see it happening by Friday but I think sooner we will NOT make it by Friday…

TONY STATES we are almost done and the last 10 days we had ridiculous reports, smoke and bad info and other places we could not believe the uproar we saw this past weekend on other sites…… BUT today the news is coming out so HIGH I can’t even say it..


Guru Checkmate Dan:   Dan says good news going round to verify this and confirmations are coming out of everywhere – not pump this up or hype this up or get too excited and we heard the wolf cry but it looks really good – nothing is happening but MORE confirmation of things moving forward…

Dan states some are looking for this tonight – He feels that this is something he can’t dispute and if it happens it has to happen quick – if he does not happen by Friday it has to wait till after the weekend… But this could happen tonight in their morning… but if not by Friday it will be after…  an states we are extremely close and it could take place before the morning or it could push this off or not before Friday so we are really close – this should be a good night…

 
Guru Poppy2:   THERE ARE LESS THAN 1MILLION OF US DINARIANS INCLUDING THE CORPS THAT HOLD DINAR. WE HOLD JUST OVER 8 BILLION DINARS INCLUDING ALL CORPORATIONS. BUT OUR TREASURY BACK IN 2004 HAD 4.2 TRILLION DELIVERED TO THE FRONT DOOR ACCORDING TO THE COL. THAT DELIVERED IT DOOR TO DOOR FROM THE CBI TO THE UST. THINGS AARE LOOKING VERY GOOD FOR THIS WEEK OR BEFORE THE FIRST DAY OF OCT. KEEP YOUR FAILTH LIFTED UP AND I CONGRADULATE THE DEWEY ROUND TABLE GROUP THERE INTEL LAST EVENINGS CC WAS ALL CONFIRMED TO THE LETTER TODAY THROUGH THE MEDIA. RIGHT NOW THE KURDISTAND LEADERS ARE SURELY OUR FRIENDS AND ARE PUSHING FOR COMPLETION. I APPLAUDE ALL THE MODS ON THIS ROOM FOR THEIR SERVICE AND AM GLAD TO HAVE SERVED THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WITH ALL OF YOU BLESS WEVERYONE HE POPPY2

I AM RESERVING MY DECISION ABOUT COUNTING mALIKI OUT OF THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS AS LONG AS HE IS IN THE PM OFFICE WE CAN'T DEPEND ON ANY INFORMATION ABOUT HIS EFFECTIVENESS. POPPY2

AS BAD AS I HATE TO SAY IT AT THIS STAGE WE ACTUALLY NEED HIM TO STAY IN OFFICE TILL THE RV IS COMPLETE. OTHERWISE THEY WILL BE A LONG TIME REPLACING HIM AND GETTING ALL DOCUMENTATION COMPLETED AGAIN AND THROUGH PARLIMENT ALL OVER. POPPY2

WingIt Call Notes 9/6/16

GARRY: Welcome to the Wing-It call. Who would have thought we'd be here now? Reads disclaimer.

ART: Has to remind Garry to pray.

GARRY: Prays

ART: Good Afternoon everyone in currency land. Hope you had a great Labor Day weekend. I know I did. We had a family dinner and it was kinda nice to do that. I'm sure you all got footballed out like I did. There were a lot of good games on and now we start a new week.

I do have a few things though. We've heard every day we're going to get the numbers and we're hearing that again today. So who knows? We just kind of accept the fact that we hear it every day. This is called “Pray Hard” and it's about the G20. https://www.dinardaily.net/t57168-gcr-rv-meeting-g20-it-is-reported-by-credible-sources-this-is-the-end-of-this-ride

This is a different one. The IEX connected with trading platforms all over the world last night at 2:03am. Were instituted. It took 37 minutes to connect and this means the Iraq Exchange is live now. Trading commences today. 7:50pm tonight is the expected time frame. Meetings are occurring right now in Atlanta with WF and AD leadership. We should be in the bank exchanging tomorrow. 656 WF branches are open tomorrow. We're looking good for tonight. Tomorrow morning is our back wall date. Legally Wells group were told funds would be released last night and they must be liquid by Tuesday. They were told they were exchanging some large humanitarian groups now and we'll go when they finish. Saying that the process continues. As of September 4^th in Asia 187 countries turned in PA commitments to UN with signatures, Together they constitute 97% of the world GDP/Carbon emissions. They claim the Galactics are participating in the new treaties and agreements to help humanity to move forward. They did the same when writing and approving the US Constitution. Disclosure is the hot topic. To be finalized September 5^th. Once completed, the RV will be released globally. They talked about no planes leaving.... that was yesterday, etc., etc. https://www.dinardaily.net/t57139-fisher-says-galactics-are-participating-with-new-treaties-agreements-to-help-humanity-move-forward#290256

Obama vs Philippine President (Obama is a SOB) Obama vs Putin (Putin wrestles bears) etc., etc., etc., etc. Art says all this stuff is uncalled for, even if Obama isn't making decisions.

So I read a bunch of stuff and take it for what it is. Hopefully it's all true about today. All we're waiting on is the 800#'s and that's all we need really to get in there and do our thing. So, that's all I got.

GARRY: Thanks Art. Got a question and it kinda goes into what we want to talk about today. You know, the little email issue. The one that happened to you.

ART: Oh yeah. I was hacked. Two accounts. My Gmail and my AOL. I had to change passwords on both of them. Etc., etc.

GARRY: Thank you, Art. Wingman.... Do you have anything to add to the intel portion of this call?

IKO: Hogwash

GARRY: Before you say anything.... Since last Friday's call, it's been a roller coaster ride of information and if you've ever heard Tony say “if I updated you or tweeted out every time something changed, it would make you head spin”.

ART: Garry. By the way. Okie is still getting calls and the other night he said the other night his phone just rang off the hook until he finally turned it off about one or two in the morning. People keep calling for 800#'s. People keep doing this to him. I wish they would stop.

GARRY: Art, let me tell you what the problem is. It's those yahoos over on Twitter that started up a Twitter account that says Okie @OkieOilman something. I've had to block all this stuff from my Twitter page and they've posted his personal phone number, his cell phone number and posted Admin Bills and they did it again just recently. And if somebody would like to help Okie or AdminBill out and report those people. I've done my best with Twitter and Twitter really doesn't give a crap and it's going to have to be a mass campaign. Hold on here and I will tell you exactly what the name of that site is, or the Twitter. I've got to go to my list. Hold on a second and I'll tell you what it is. I have a long list of people I've blocked, so give me just a second. Let's see. Nope, nope, nope, nope. Well. Such a long... Oh. There it is! I don't know why they have it like that, but it's off@okieoilman@okieoilman. That's the Twitter, how they have it listed. And it's probably KENNY & MICHELE DISTON that's doing all this along with, what's that.... you know it doesn't even make any difference. Bless their little hearts. So, when I get another one I'll try to Tweet out what the issues are. But anyway, those are the people that are doing that and that's why Okie is getting those problems. Eventually light will be shined on the offending individuals and then from there let the authorities take it over.

I've been on a roller coaster since Friday. If I was to notify you every time something changed it would be a phone call... hang up. Wait five minutes and another one. Up and down, up and down. Back in July I made an observation that we could make it until October 1^st when the Chinese go asset backed. To wait that long. I hope not, but look where were at. First full week in September and we have three full weeks in September before October 1^st. So if it doesn't go until October 1^st, my prediction is that it'll the middle or the 4, 5 or 6^th of October before we may see any action. That's just me. I'm not calling it. I'm not giving a date. I'm making an observation. Wingman, what do you think?

IKO: I'm in the car. Are you there?

GARRY: Huh, Oh. Anyhow.... *2 to ask a question. We're getting a lot of ups and downs. A lot of people are getting frustrated. I'm almost ready to cut this back to one call a week, but we still need to know what's going on. I'd like to cut it back to one call a week.

IKO: Not to be too cynical about it, basically the way I run my life right now is that if it shows up on Dinar Recaps, I completely ignore it. That's how I see this. Any information that shows up on Recaps can't be valid because anybody who really knows anything about this has their mouth shut tighter than a you know what. It's makes no sense and all these.... And now what they're doing with the intel... Let's be precise about this - it had happened at three minutes after two... Get the hell outta here. I'm just so frustrated with this whole thing and quite frankly if people are going to believe it at this point, they're just going to believe it. There's no education at this point. You either understand what happening with this deal or you don't. That's just the way it is. You know. People are going to be worth millions pretty soon if not billions, and they gotta start thinking like millionaires and billionaires... not like gullible people on the internet. You know, that play the lottery. So, that's it.

GARRY: That's OK. Where everybody is frustrated and I do my best not to let my frustrations spill over onto the call because I would like to tell it like it is, with a few choice words, but I'm trying to be better than that. I've been schooled that sometimes flavorful words aren't always the best choice, but I've always said that, yeah, but it fits the moment and tells it exactly like it is. So, with that being said, let's get to Iraq. I've heard all the stories, I've got the phone calls, I've got the texts and emails about what's going on over there. Again, it is NOT all about Iraq. They are the center of attention. That's where they want people to look at, but as this process goes along, you can use Iraq and what's coming out of there as an indicator of how we are in the process. Iraq is not the end all. They are being told when to do something. When to make a couple steps forward, when to make a couple steps backwards. You can't look strictly at Iraq and say oh yes, this is where we're at. Hold on. OK. I would like to say that's where we're at by saying “watch Iraq”, but you can't. Use it as part of the show, of the play, we're in the final act, but there are a lot of sub-acts in the acts, as we watch it play out. We're right there. It's just when are they going to pull the curtain back and say it's show time.

ART: You can almost reverse the maxim. When Iraq goes, we go, because everybody is going to go together. Or it's going to happen all at once. Everything else is pure conjecture. I know that doesn't help people feel good about this, but quite frankly, it's not about feeling good. We're in an investment. We're in a business deal. An extremely complex financial transaction and that's how it's being treated by the people that's actually doing it. If you have an emotional problem, just get out of the boardroom because you don't' belong there. That's really what it boils down to. That's cold, but that's the truth. We're talking about trillions and trillions of dollars and nobody that's in control of this thing gives a gosh darn about if feelings are hurt. Just get over it! And that's how it's going to be, guys, post RV. No body is going to feel sorry for you. If anything they are going to be angry, they're going to be jealous. That's going to be a daily occurance.

GARRY: Talking about Art getting his email hacked. Get cybersecurity, blah, blah, blah.

Murphysboro, TN: Comment for Iko. I called in last week about Chinese Yuan going asset backed or being part of the reserve currency. I've done some research and think I've figured it out. On October 1^st the Yuan is going to be part of the reserve currency. In June they actually priced that currency towards the gold index. Therefore it's asset backed for all intensive purposes. Agree?

GARRY: Yes

TN: So we thought we had a fail safe date, or we thought we did September 1^st, to get all of this currency out of the marketplace - USD. In the meantime, we've got how many other countries, 148, 200 and whatever, whose central banks are holding USD. So come October 1^st, their choices are the Yuan or USD. Agree?

GARRY: Yes

TN: So they way I see this is, we should be out of this roller coaster ride by October 1^st. However, I can sure see the US spending the next 25 days negotiating away to slowly take this USD back in and prolong this even longer. That's my opinion.

GARRY: Well, we're also waiting for the USN to come out. Because everybody is going to an asset backed currency and it's only a matter of time. This is my viewpoint. They are trying to delay this as long as possible. Hell, I''ll tell ya. Within the last three days I've got I don't know how many texts saying that Obama wants to hold this off until 2017. You know? Specifically January 20^th. Well, and then on the other side of the horse, people are saying it's not Obama, it's Valarie Jarrett. She's made the statement that as long as she's in the White House it'll never RV. Well, she's Iranian. They don't get along with Iraq but they have to. They are trading partners. I mean, there are so many scenarios, subterfuge behind everything, it's absolutely mind blowing. To keep from having your head spinning like Chuckie, do like I do. Listen, separate the wheat from the chaff and breathe.

TN: I agree 100%. That's why I think through this the way I have. I agree with Iko. Whoever posts this stuff on Recaps. I mean, Obama makes the announcement that the GCR has happened. He doesn't care about us. Who's he going to announce it to? It doesn't matter. There's no point in it. Everybody be patient. It's gonna happen. Look for triggers. September 1^st – it didn't happen. That's just my opinion. Not yours, Garry. It's mine. One other quick question.

This IEX that everybody keeps talking about and they want to tie it to this new exchange that's coming out. How does anybody know that the currency is going to be traded on IEX. From what I see, it's just companies that don't want to trade on Nasdaq or the stock exchange. Where did this whole idea of currency being traded on the IEX come from?

GARRY: I think it's the Iraqi stock exchange.

TN: So it's not the IEX you see everybody tying it to that is starting trade on September 15^th in the US.

GARRY: I don't know. I haven't even. Like I said Iraq is look over here, look over there. They are doing things. Yes, but just watch them and you can see where we are in the process. They are not in control of the GCR.

TN: Iraq is part of the process, those things have to happen for them to catch up to the GCR. Anyone who wants to point to Iraq and say this thing is based on them. Mosel is going to be free, this car bombing in Baghdad that killed 10 people that is going to hold this up is ridiculous. Iraq is going to go as the GCR goes. It's just part of the process. Like Vietnam. Like any of them. So I couldn't figure out the IEX because their stock exchange was called ISX or something, wasn't it?

GARRY: I think so. I don't know.

TN: I wasn't actually talking about the Iraq stock exchange, I was talking about the new exchange that's opening September 15^th in New York that's everybody wants to tie the new asset backed currencies are going to be traded there and not on the Forex. I can't find any proof of that anywhere.

GARRY: Like anything else, they are going to keep it hidden until then. Thank you sir. Beverly Hills, come on down.

CA: Good morning. Good afternoon. My issue is this. I just want an opinion. I know you can't give me legal advice or anything like that. My attorney went on vacation. I need a piece of paper from him to send to my husband so that he could sign it so we could go our separate ways. But this may happen before... the RV may happen before I get the papers I need. If I go down.... I'm going to fly down to TX, because my brother, he's in Texas, and we are doing this together. I have some ZIM. Can I just put that into a non-interest bearing account and leave it there? I'm just looking for a safe place to put my money and leave it there until I get my Master's Trust and then push into....

GARRY: Are you talking about after you exchange?

CA: Right. If I put in into an non-interest bearing account?

GARRY: The bank. Yes. The bank is going to give you. Don't put anything into your name because then you have an asset tied to you which somebody could take it from you. If you got in a, some type of bank vehicle and I'm sure they'll have that type of vehicle there, you'll be OK and then you can do with what you wish after the exchange.

CA: OK. I'm just going to live on what I got until everything goes. All the legal issues and everything else go away. So, I'm mean even one of their trusts. I could put it into one of their trusts and not touch it. I just want my money to be safe.

GARRY: Right and those questions you can ask at the exchange and the bank will say. They'll explain it to you.

CA: OK. Great. Love you. Love what you do, etc., etc.

GARRY: Where are you flying to in TX?

CA: Dallas/Ft. Worth

GARRY: Is that where you brother lives?

CA: Yes. I'm going to be moving down there. Who needs Rodeo Drive when you can have a Rodeo in TX?

GARRY: At least you kept your sanity and your morals. Windy City.

IL: How are ya? Conversation on Art's emails getting hacked.
 

GARRY: Port St. Lucie, FL

FL: I was reading the very good email that came out a couple days ago about the sequences and the new information regarding the exchange and the flexibility or lack thereof that the people with ZIM will have 48 hr requirement to make a call and get an appointment.

GARRY: Letr me address that one first. Nobody knows the rules. I think some people are taking shots in the dark. I'm not saying it's right or saying it's wrong, but we all know that when this goes down, we're all going to call and make an appointment within the first day or two.

FL: OK. The reason for my question is not only the 48 hrs for myself and my wife. We're here in Fla nd our daughter is up in NY. Our daughter doesn't have any idea other that she's got ZIM and a little additional currency. One of us needs to go to NY to be with her during the exchange. She's going to be required, I believe, the way I read that memo, she'd be required to make the call within the first 48 hours and then explain to the person she connects with that she would have to have a travel allowance for someone who is going to be with her at her exchange up to a week later. Or two weeks later.

GARRY: Again, we just all need to be flexible when... you're going to go in first and you're going to have money, so no one is going to need any travel voucher. You're going to say I need a plane flight. Say you go in and it happens on a Monday. You're in on a Tuesday. You're got money Tuesday, even walk out money your hand. You're going to walk. I need airplane tickets. Within 24 hrs or no more than 36 you're going to be in NY with your daughter. So if she delays her appointment a little bit. Say if she calls in on a Monday and says “can I have an appointment on a Wednesday”, I think you can make that.

FL: Yeah. OK. It's a push, but we'll see. Etc., etc.,

GARRY: You're going to have time to do what you need to do after you exchange. Etc., etc.

FL: Is it possible to get a transcript of Art's presentation today? I thought it was excellent.

GARRY: The replay. I tweet out the replay out and I also put it on my website so the general public would be able to find it on the home page and it'll also be in the form.

FL: So it won't be in print?

GARRY: No. There won't be a transcript. Sedona.

AZ: Are we just poo pooing what Art's message was earlier?

GARRY: I have no opinion either way. I'm just a host. I can't have an opinion.

AZ: You can't? Of course you can.

GARRY: The redneck can have an opinion, but the host can't.

AZ: Let's talk to the redneck. Hi. Redneck, this is Taylor in Sedona and I wanted to see what you're opinion on Art's message this morning/this afternoon. I thought it was great.

GARRY: I've got my fingers crossed. I'll say this. If we think that we're the only beings in this universe, of this magnitude, I think we have our head stuck in the sand. How's that?

AZ: That's not exactly what I wanted to hear. I think I'm going to have my own opinion. I like what Art said, so I'm going to keep that. OK?

GARRY: OK. Bye. Wingman. What's your opinion. The redneck got one.

IKO: I'll give you NE philosophy. First off. I don't want anybody to ever think that if I disagree with something Art said it any way affects my relationship with him or my admiration for him. Art does a great job of collecting data and relating it. And he's been doing that now for at least a couple of years, maybe longer.

GARRY: What Iko says is what I'm talking about. I give short answers. I should have expounded. I agree with Iko.

IKO: What I have a problems with. Again, I've made this is a full time occupation. Figuring out what the heck is going on with this investment. What I've come to realize is that anybody who actually knows what going on isn't breathing a word about it. Not even a hint. Not even a whisper. Anybody who claims that they've got a contact high up that calls them, a, b or c, as far as I'm concerned, is lying. Plain and simple. What you can do is you can take all of the intel that is out there and put together a story around it that's very believable and makes sense in light of what the total intel package is being fed to Dinarland. Inside there, there are reasonable conclusions, but what we see is, we see black and white evidence of this happening. Not from intel groups, we see it coming from black and white sources. We see it coming from people inside the banks. We see it from people inside the bond market. We see it from articles on Bloomberg. It's a mosaic, a jigsaw puzzle and there have emerged in the past year some very clever people who know who to spin a good yarn. But that's, to me, that's all it is. It's logical conclusions, it's reasonable deductions as to what is happening. But the fact of the matter is, nobody and I repeat, nobody except the people controlling this know exactly what the deal is. That goes for dates, rates, that goes for participants.

GARRY: No, we don't know who's controlling this, so don't ask.

IKO: We don't. I love the Nesara philosophy. I hate the narrative that has came out. It's like a 14 yr old writing a graphic novel or comic book in his parents basement. All this stuff about Obama being fired, all the stuff.... it's wishful thinking. Hey, I'm right there with that wish, OK. That's what it is. The world doesn't work that way. The world is immensely complex and there are deals out there we haven't got a clue about. All we're getting is the stuff manufactured for digestion of the general public. And in this case a specific audience that is bent towards specific philosophies. For the most part Dinarians are conservative Christians, or candle lighters (? - garbled) that's a popular saying. It's people who believe in a galactic presence, it's people who believe even in energetic vs. spiritual transformation. And I'm one of those. But, by the same token, I wear my seat beat whenever I get in the car. That's what I'm talking about, trying to hammer home. It's not well put, but it is what I believe the reality and I liken it to my initiation union construction in NYC. I got chewed and spit out the first few jobs I literally I was a babe in the woods until I realized who I was dealing with and how to deal back with them. That wasn't doing any dishonest, immoral, that was being somebody who believe in truth and fair dealing. But you have to understand the complexity and the enormity of this transaction, so what Art put out today, which is a conglomeration of this weekends intel. It sounds wonderful, it does, and I would love for it to be 90% true, because it's a narrative that I have, but that's all it does. It just... it's the latest story and I mean story as in fiction around our exchange. Our exchange is a financial business transaction on a global stage. It's got nothing to do with us. Nothing to do with Iraq. Iraq is a puppet. Pure & simple. Anything you hear. Again, where is the bibliography? These people said a lot of things this weekend. What are their sources? “Well, I can't reveal my sources” Well, you can't reveal your sources, because your sources are made up! And that's just the way it is, as far as I'm concerned. And by the same token, I know we're really close. But I know it, from what I would call disinterested intel. Not people who have currency..... bond people, financial people, bankers, people who are totally outside of the rumor mill that we're exposed to on a daily basis. All I have to do is point to how many times they cry wolf. Before you cry werewolf, before you cry zombie apocalypse.... it's just ridiculous, the level of intel that has been coming our way. If you think you're going to walk into the bank and walk out 20 minutes later with a trillion dollars; guess what? You better (garbled) It's not going to be a 20 minute meeting. There's going to be negotiations, there's going to be contracts, there's going to be vetting. People like Homeland Security, FBI, IRS, they're all going to be in on it. Don't kid yourself. You gotta be ready to stand on your own two feet and cut to the chase. Forgive my lecturing mood today, but it's time. That's how close we are and we gotta hit the ground, not just running, we gotta hit the ground at full throttle or we're gonna make huge mistakes and mess up this blessing. This wonderful, wonderful blame that we accidentally came apart of. We're here by accident. We're here because the PTB screwed up. That the only reason we're here.

GARRY: Bless their hearts.

IKO: Yes, bless their hearts. Tony & DC, even though they were being handled, they figured out a way to get us to the table with that Twitter campaign. So, I'm forever in their debt, even though I know all the background behind it. You know, there's no such thing as a pure angel in this deal.... there just isn't. But there are people you have acted angelic on occasion and got us to where we are now. So let us....

GARRY: Let us take... from your neck of the woods those insurance executives.

IKO: Not them again.

GARRY: Yeah, them again.

INS EXEC: Thanks for that intro, Garry. Since we're trashing some of this info that's been out there. I was wondering, by any chance, this misinformation, your name was brought up in this misinformation and it said you had cashed in along with Bruce, RayRay and a couple of others. Is there any truth to that at all?

GARRY: No, I wish


IKO: You talking to me? No, I wish.

INS EXEC: OK, let's go for it. Iko, I can't believe you're a babe in the woods. I can't visualize that.


IKO: I was when I was 30 yrs old. Not now.

GARRY: Let me address this. There's a Twitter campaign out there from them, bless their hearts, Dinar Daily, the Kenny(s), Nick G and all that. They've have a picture of Garry McGuire. Ain't I pretty??? They even have a picture of my house up there. I hope somebody comes by there and teepees my house. Because if anything happens to my by house... (laughter) They're in big trouble.

IKO: (laughter) That's good. You know who to get out there?

GARRY: Absolutely.

ISN EXEC: Now you haven't answered yes or no. I don't know if you're being a politician. That you've cashed in w/that email address thst came out.

GARRY: Nope. What email address?

INS EXEC: That tele..... Some tele something.

GARRY: No, I know what you mean. I haven't cashed out. I'm still broke and I have the bills to prove it and the bank acct to back it up.


INS EXEC: I'm just going to ask you some quick questions so I know where you stand. So you don't believe in that Joseph Dunsford. Do we believe in any of that?

GARRY: You know how Iko put it? I agree with Iko. I'm hoping for the best. All the stuff that out's there I can only hope and then reality sets in. Until we see something publicily, we have what we have. Until we see a public exchange. OK?

INS EXEC: That's fair, because it's driving me absolutely crazy.

GARRY: Oh... Oh... You seem to follow me pretty close, so I got a question for you. Am I running some type of scam? Am I selling Dinar, am I....

INS EXEC: Not even, not even close. Iko hit it on the head with DC and what's his name? The big guy... Tony No, not at all. In fact you're the farthest person I've seen yet that just eliminates themselves and just provides information.... solely information. Now that's me.

GARRY: I was taking donations for Okie and some other destitute people and they think I've kept it all

INS EXEC: Oh no, I think that passe. I think that's.. I think everybody understands. Once you put it out there like that... There's no way, you'd be hanging yourself if that was not what you were saying with what you're doing with that money. So I totally believe that you did the right things for Okie and I've been following him also, so I do understand that and that guy has came on with so many misfortunes. So, OK, all right. By the way, do you guys take any, put any credence to the collapse of 50%, and the crash. I don't want to bum you out because I know you guys are trying to ride this wave and I want to be on the upside of it. I want to keep myself up, I try to. I hear this trash about some kind of crash and I see Obama outside the country for two weeks being lambasted. Even the reporters, other countries…..etc., etc., Do other politicians outside the world understand that maybe someone else is in charge?

GARRY: You Know. Let me say this, then I'm going to mute you. I'll answer, anyway. I would like to think so, but also I'd like to say that they're been a lot of decisions made by this administration, a lot of alienation from some of the NATO people. There's a lot, so there's a war that's started. All wars are bankers wars. Biggest arms dealers in the world. Are you ready for this? The USA, Russia, France, Great Britain, somebody else.... Those are those biggest arms dealers in the world. I don't care what they say. The war dogs in that movie with Nicolas Cage, I can't remember the name of it. Why was the Syrian war started, who created ISIS? They're a lot of things that are fabricated. We all know about the CIA. Let's not talk about them, but I do, because it's common knowledge about, you know... they do things, start a war over hear, fund these guys over here and I think it's reached a pinnacle point with this administration that they have . Here we go, I'm gonna get in big trouble for this. They've peed in a lot of the peoples' Post Toasties and they're tired and a lot things have reveled themselves worldwide and they're not happy. So, there's my answer. Thanks you Insurance Salesmens. Lady Justice...

LADY JUSTICE: I've told you before. Don't put my name out there.

GARRY: That, ma'am, is like Gerry McGuire. (laughter)

LJ: #1 Two thumbs up for the Iko commentary... Excellent and right to the point. #2. Deacon, sometime you feed into the foolishness... just let it go. There's power in the tongue. Stop rehearsing and cursing what someone said, because as long as they're saying something, you're doing good. It's when you keep replying to it. #3 Whenever you're not gonna have a call like last Friday, put a notice up and say “NO CALL TODAY”.

GARRY: Sweetie, it was a last minute... It was un... I had no idea. It happened, but I did have a call that evening. I did Tweet out that there was a call as 9 EST that evening.

LJ: Well, I was one of those that got deleted from the board (garbled), so now I just call in.

GARRY: You can follow me on Twitter and you don't have to have a Twitter account.

LJ: I have a Twitter account, so I'll do that. But I know a lot of people didn't know what was going on.

GARRY: I had a personal emergency that I had to attend to.

LJ: Chit Chat

GARRY: Wingman, you still there? Baltimore, MD

MD: How are you? I wanted to know... I've been in this several years and all I've every done... I've listened since you started, listened to Tony. I have to deal with family. Is there any proof out there, that you know of, that this thing is truly real?

GARRY: YES.

MD: Is it something you can share?

GARRY: NO.

MD: OK, I'll take you word for it. I trust you and...

GARRY: I've been it 6.5 yrs and I'm not going anywhere and, just like you, I'm waiting. But yes, it's real.

MD: OK. God Bless you, Iko and Art.

GARRY: Wingman....

IKO: I'm back.

GARRY: You got a little extra time? Let's take a couple more callers.

FL: Hi Garry. I had the same question the woman that just called. Since we don't know anything for real, if anyone has really cashed out or is there actual places where we can transfer our money. How do we really know that this thing is for real? There's been no proof of anything. It's kind of disgusting.

IKO: That's not true. There's plenty of proof. What you have to separate is the sensational narrative that we're getting fed these days. Exec 13303 is a real thing. We own legitimate currency. Dinar, dong, rupiah. That's all legitimate currency, that is going to revalue and we're going to make a killing because we were able to buy it so inexpensively. The one wild card here is the ZIM. OK? Nobody really knows the entire, even the baseline story on the ZIM. We know that it's a Bond. We know that's it's going to be valued at something and we're pretty sure, pretty sure that WF is going to handle those exchanges, but everything else about it... Yeah, that's kinda up in the air, but I wouldn't go so far as to say that this whole thing isn't real. It's very real.

GARRY: I want to say this. There, as the more they hold this off or put our disinformation, hello???

FL: Yeah

GARRY: OK, for a minute I though I went away. They're trying, it's the beat down, the more they hammer away and hold this off, the more discouraged you get and the more people will opt out of it or just give up on it or just ignore it. So when it does happen you get just a percentage of what you really should have got if you had been paying attention. So don't loose hope. I've been there a couple of times myself going... I'm thinking, what in the heck am I doing? (Yes, Miss Justice, I'm trying to do better.) If you have one of those moments, just relax and breathe. Let me take the pressure and I'm dealing with it and I'll just telling you it's gonna be OK.

FL: Can I ask one more question? Have you connected any relevance to the G20 with this thing? What's the relationship between those two?

GARRY: They say that within the Paris Treaty is the RV, hidden in political language. I've read that thing frontwards and backwards and other people have. I'm trying to find it in there. I haven't found it yet, but I'm not gonna stop looking. There's a great possibility that they didn't publish it or post it. OK? Let's see..... Bye.

Can ya hear me now? Come on down... Houston...

TX: Good afternoon, Garry. Just kinda, everybody is kinda in the same boat, we're all thinking the same thing. I've got a personal contact with a a paymaster and they've instructed everything is real and nothing has happened yet, and I know that from hearing you and Iko that you guys are speaking from your heart and are people of honor and the last couple guys have been asking the questions because, in essence, I've been on this road for 5 yrs and truthfully, listened to Tony every other day, saying it's going, it's going, it's going, it's going, it's going and we can now look back and see a lot of the reasoning behind this start/go, start/go and how the weeding out some of the bad players and stuff like that which we understand. And in addition to that, the other night, I got information that after the G20 they had made an agreement that it would be 48 hours before they would make any announcement and was kind of expecting something to be announced last night. So, in essence, all we have had for probably 99.9% of the people on this phone call is listening to Tony and RayRen and others, speaking of others who have already gone through. Which, going back to Tony, I believe that the politicians went through and then they closed the doors on this. Then we did the Tweeter campaign, which was a fantastic experience. Here is my question of you - two or three men of honor, my one question is this: To listen to RayRen always announcing that he knows somebody or knows someone... I personally don't know one soul, that knows one soul that has actually gone in and exchanged and received an SKR or cash or anything whatsoever. So my question to any of the three of you is this: As men of honor... Do you truly, 100%, know a true real person, that you know personally, that has exchanged either for a SKR, or for cash. Do you know anybody?

GARRY: I know and individual who has a SKR.

TX: OK. And it's not liquid?

GARRY: Nope

TX: Or is it liquid?

GARRY: Nope.

TX: OK, so you do know personally, one of your friends that has an SKR and that gives you the true benefit of hope, as well as other people that are contacting you for other information as a leader to us all. So in all truth and your heart that you know truthfully that you know one person who has an SKR?

GARRY: That is what I just said.

TX: Ok. I really thank you so much for what you are doing and we all appreciate any person that can bring us a tidbit of information, but the tidbit that I bring is minor in being my connection to the Paymaster saying that it's 48 hours after the G20 that we would have notifications put out so it's quite possible that we get some notifications sometime tonight. God willing, but you know, we keep on going down this choo-choo train. Thank you very much.

GARRY: Orange, TX


TX #2: How ya doing? This is an answer for that fellow who just hung up. If you remember I told you about a week or maybe a couple weeks ago that I know a fellow that had signed an NDA and, yeah, he got what he wanted. So it does happen and it is happening. It's not going away. We just have to be patient.

GARRY: It's also who you know and privileged people have always went first.

TX#2: Absolutely. Anybody who thinks that's not right... is nuts. You're totally stone cold true about that. That guy is about 78 miles from me.

GARRY: It's been like that since biblical times.

TX#2: I believe what you guys said. You've already said this before... We weren't supposed to find out about this. We weren't supposed to know about this., but guess what? Because of the new technology world we live in, we found out.

GARRY: What can I say? As George Bush would say, “Damn the bad luck”.

TX #2: I always wanted to tell that fellow, in case he missed that call what I told you a couple weeks ago. It happened, so it's gonna happen, so just sit back like you guys say “be patient, it's coming, don't get upset and I think we're way close. Have a good day.

GARRY: Seattle, WA

WA: A round of Blue Moon for everybody.

GARRY: Absolutely.

WA: About 2012, I had a contractor come in to work on my house and he was an Iraqi and he brought along a helper who helped the US rat on the rotten ones over there. The US brought him and his family over here – gave him a salary, bought him a house. Whatever. He was sympathizer for the US. At that time, I was told that until Maliki goes away, this would never, never happen. Isn't it a little bit strange that we are all now, with the amnesty law, Zebari blows the whistle on 47 MPs and Maliki is one of them and they are going to crush down on these people real quick and hard. Do you think that situation is helping our cause?

GARRY: Yeah, they were told to go ahead and get those laws passed because everybody watches everything. We have people over with a microscope that can can tell the sex of that mosquito on that camel's butt about what Iraq is doing over there. They were told you can do this now, but you can take it up to this point. It was what I talked about earlier. So it's part of the show.

WA: Do you think that the holdup? (garbled)

GARRY: No, it's not. This can go at any time. They want you to watch, look over here, on the right hand side of the road, - Iraq, what's going on, but don't look over at the left because that is what is truly going on. It's not a bad thing, but that how they want you to perceive things.

WA: So with so you think October 1^st is viable thing?

GARRY: I said back in July that I thought October 1^st as a back wall because of China coming out with an asset backed currency and everybody will want that money instead of something that's an IOU piece of paper.

WA: Hope that happens because, if not will be waiting until January 1^st, because there is not going to be anything between October 1^st and January 1^st. Thanks and bye.

IKO: I said it all earlier in my diatribe. All we are is witnesses to this. Again, as far as I'm concerned, I don't want to say it's my opinion, because opinion is too weak a statement. All my research tells me that everything we are hearing in Dinarland is engineered crap to keep us off balance and this thing is absolutely moving forward in a concrete way. What happened over in Iraq last week was simply part of the systematic implementation of various agreements among the international community. So, we just gotta wait. That's it. It could be tonight, it could be next week, my personal opinion is that if the Chinese are going to follow through, and they always follow through, with the October 1^st declaration of asset currency, then the GCR must be in place before that, because it will create havoc in the financial systems around the planet. If the GCR is in place, that means the RV is in place One can't happen without the other. So when it does happen, everyone is going to get notified pretty much at the same time. There may be a little bit of an order to it, but not much. We don't have to worry because we are so tuned into this thing now, we'll know when the 800#'s come up. We'll be able to set our appointments. If you make a decision that you want to delay you appointment for your convenience. You lose. It's not about your convenience, OK? This is a business transaction. You want to come to the table and make a deal. Here's the deal, here's the day we're going to do it. If you miss that meeting, as my dear Irish (? garbled) would say, “Tough Shit, Paddy”. That's all I gotta say.

GARRY: Lord, thank you for allowing Iko and myself to have another call and bring information to the people. Whether it's educational or informative, only they know. And the people that are listening, thank you very much - you are the ones that make this call.


Notes Courtesy of Ssmith (Guru Hunter)

Is Garry Mcguire Going To Threaten Google With Legal Action Too?

It seems that Garry has an issue with the publicly available Wing-it call and notes being transcribed, but not for other publicly available calls.

How much more two-faced can you get?

Here's the publicly available notes that Google has as of the time of this posting:

WingIT Tuesday CC Notes and Replay 8-16-16 Emailed to Recaps 

8/17/2016  
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Thanks Ssmith for sending these to us today

Wing-It Call Notes 8/16/16

Gerry leads the kids in prayer – asking for protection & guidance, etc., etc.

Disclaimer time. Gerry says we 're not attorneys, financial advisers, or CPAs. This is just our opinion and not to be taken as legal advice.

Gerry now starts the intel portion . OK. Here we go.

Art: Is expecting the temperatures in his area to moderate and says fall is in the air. He didn't say if there is any chance of precipitation in the forecast. Last night one of his sources was 1,000% assured that last night was the night. Now they aren't quite 1,000% assured, but think the numbers will be here today or tomorrow.
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He suggests reading the new SitRep that just came out at DinarChronicles. (it's also available at Dinar Daily) Yosef had talked about Abbott Downing and this is equally as good. Art says that's all we know and there really isn't any more intel. He says it's all done, it's ready and they are just taking care of some lose ends. He also think that the people have have been delaying this have been taken care of. Go read SitRep.

Gerry: Wingman is under the weather. Gary says there isn't a lot of intel out there, so what we really need to do is prepare ourselves.

Gerry's List:

First concern is the FinCin report. FinCin112. The box on line 31 or 32 that says “exchange”. You want to check that and get a copy of that.

Oh yeah. The first thing is that they want to speak with you and see what type of person you are. What are you going to do? Are you just going to take you money and run? Go be a playboy/girl/or something? If so, they are going to put you in that category.

Or are you going to be in Category #2? You want to fund some projects, but don't want to take part in the day to day operations. That's Great! That means that the rate you get is going to be higher than the people in Category #1. You'll be a partner with the bank and that is what they want because that is how they make money. You want to be a good steward, you want to grow it.

Category #3 is you want to do humanitarian projects and want to be involved. You will get an even better rate for that because now you are a “Really Preferred Customer”.

Next question. If I have to fund all of my projects out of my portion, I'd like a little more percentage. Let's see. Who did I get this from? Part 2 of the form, line 25e was what I was just told. Anyway. Oh look! It's my buddy from Austin. He's going help since Wingman is under the weather.

So when you ask them if you have to fund the projects out of your portion, if they say “yes” you need to ask them for a high percentage. If they say “no”, it's because the banker wants to see what you are doing and be involved in the process. It like a loan to build a house.

Be respectful and ask if this is the best you have to offer for what I'm bringing to the table. Cashier's Checks. Think about what you are going to be asking for. Write them down in advance. Some of the checks I'm going to be asking for are pretty sizable. I have to pay off my trust, my financial adviser. If I want a private jet, I'm going to need a check for the jet company. That way I can travel and just pick up the phone and they'll meet me there.

Gerry's buddy from Austin: Most of this is common sense. Banks are going to be respectful of you because they know what you are bringing to the table. Take your notes with you Even Iko needs notes. Just be respectful. You want to review you previous notes. You want to condense them down and take them with you. Realize what you have is what they want. If you don't ask, you don't get it.

Gerry: That was it? I though you'd go a little longer.

Austin: Exciting times. Best thing I can say is don't get down on yourself. Just be glad you have something others don't. People have ridiculed you for this. I'm excited!

Gerry: Well, I'm.. Well, I think I made a fox pass Be calm, Louisiana people – Please, please find high ground. More water is coming. I'm praying for you.

Question #1. Thank you, etc., etc. Post exchange question.

Gerry: Well, I'm in deep trouble there.  I'm not sure. I'm going to looking to buy property and a house pretty quick. So I can move away from where I'm at to where no one knows me

Austin: Say you move from the suburbs to a higher end neighborhood by the lake, people aren't going to know you out there. Everybody has a Mercedes. Everyone has a big house. You're off the radar. You may want to keep a reasonable car if you go to the same church. I tell people I just got a job with a trust. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. What do you think?

Gerry: Stay below the radar. Zip your lip. .There's a fine art to that. People in the oil business are good at that.

Question #2: I've been thinking about outrageous rates. Maybe outrageous by fiat standards, but not by asset backed standards – wealth of the whole world. Example Zimbabwe.

Gerry: It seems that Zimbabwe and the whole country of Africa is all tied together. But Zimbabwe seems to be sitting on the hefty portion of minerals we need for technology. I'm reading these questions cold. Let's see. We have a guest coming on. Hello wingman!

IKO: Hello. Did I miss anything? Joking about missing RV & 800#'s with Gary.

Gerry: Remember we talked about what to do at the bank & our checklist? You weren't here, so I went without you. Your reply, “is the best you can offer”. I'm getting a check for $400,00. Be prepared to tell them where these are going. I'm going to pay my car off and pay my property taxes. If they offer you a credit card. Take it, but ask the limit be set at $500,000.

IKO: Ask for a Platinum Card and not a Black Card, so you don't advertise your wealth. If the bank gives you a card, have the limit set rather low, in case it's stolen. If you anticipate a big charge, call the bank and tell them raise the limit. I've done this.

Gerry: If you are going to have a relationship with your banker, get a banker you have access to 24/7 so we can communicate.

IKO: When I went in to Wells a few years ago, I had just closed down my business and didn't have a lot of money. But I got his cell # and we've had email exchanges at 11 pm at night. They're here to help us.

Gerry: I'm going to write this down. Ask them what kind of perks can you offer me?

IKO: If I need to fly to Dallas, they need to have their plane ready for me. I want to go to a SuperBowl, even though I don't follow football. I've been to the World Series. It was a trip and I don't even care about the game. Perks. Don't forget!

General things. We got some more info this week from a guy who went through the training at Wells Fargo for the exchange. Don't worry. I'm not going too far with this. One thing they are looking for, is that they want to feel comfortable with you. Especially if they are giving you something over the international rate.

You have the wherewithal to manage this kind of money. It's OK to be a beginner. You don't want to be something you're not. You want to demonstrate you can make decisions, listen, take in information. All those things. It took me years to learn all these things and how to negotiate. But I did learn.

Bankers want to know you can handle your wealth and that influences what they offer. From experience, don't try to be something you aren't. Be honest. Say you need to think about it. If you need a break – take one. You shouldn't have to worry about getting in there the first couple days. You might have to wait a week in a highly populated area. Don't panic. You're in the system when you make the call. They are there to help, etc., etc. Enough said for now. Sounds like you got all the basics.

Question #3. It's not all about Iraq. What are we waiting for?

Gerry: Rumbling that Iran will be floating their currency. That will poop in the punch bowl.

IKO: They won't do that. Iran won't go along. They depend on the region. Mainstay of the GCR is all the Arab states cooperating – not price fixing. So far there's been no evidence. There hasn't even been evidence that the US is holding it up. May just be paranoid thinking. It may just wind down. I heard a rumor this am they are waiting for January because they want the market to crash.

That doesn't make good sense. As soon as it doesn't happen when people says it should, we look for excuses. Maybe it's not quite ready. The thing is full of human mistakes, human error and you have 208 countries all trying to pull together on the biggest agreement in the history of the civilized world. That's probably what's happening. Not all the paranoid stuff.

Gerry: Have you heard about Deutsch bank?

IKO: Perfect example. We knew they were in trouble and any moment they would cry uncle, do back deals. None of that has worked. Now it's public. Slow, slow. Let's not panic Europe because they are having issues.

Gerry: Where are most of the derivatives housed at?

IKO: Yes, Deutsche bank. 160 Trillion that we know about. There are even more hidden. Did you hear anything about used car credit bubble?

Gerry: No, I haven't

IKO: They found another avenue. I just got a great deal on a 2 yr old car. I was talking to guy about credit ratings. If you can fog a mirror, you can get a car loan. Same thing with easy credit for housing, now there are so many cars, they are doing it for them. They form a cooperative and move the vehicles and we'll still make money on the repos. Dirty thing they're doing.

Gerry: Derivatives are housed in one bank. In my opinion. Tied to the top 4 banks. WF has gotten rid of most of theirs. When China goes asset backed on October 1st, with the stroke of a pen, life is good again. The pen is mightier than the sword. It's not about Iraq. We're in the closing act. Waiting for them to raise or drop the curtain.

Question #4: How are you going to diversify your money post RV? You've said using more than one bank and you've mentioned getting it offshore. (let's remember the disclaimer! LOL)

Gerry: When I said that.... That's legally offshore, otherwise you'll incur the wrath

IKO: You're doing that to protect you money, not to avoid taxes. Put some of your money into other foreign currencies that appear to have a lot of growth potential, but make sure they're safe. Seek professional advice.

Surround yourself with good info and apply the filter we've been learning about for the past few years.

There are people out there, but they're not cheap.

Caller from CA: Bank individual training mentioned in chat. Could IKO elaborate? 4th quarter window?

IKO: We'll RV before 4th qtr. We've been coached, Gary & I, we want to focus on parking our money and not making it work for us. See what develops. I'm not going to be doing any kind of investments.

Safe, vanilla – savings, CD's, fixed interest rates. I'm not doing anything in the market for at least a year. I want the economy to give a solid indication of where it's going before I do any trading, purchase foreign bonds, etc. Want to see what the GCR gives.

Don't know what the rules to the game are. Don't worry about the 4th qtr. Let you money sit in the trust, NIB account. Watch & learn.

I'm not going to set myself up for a fall, so I'm going to focus on the 4th qtr. Market crisis will trigger GCR. Hopes Deutsche bank creates a ripple effect that forces their backs up against a wall. We can wait, but the world can't. I think Europe is completely in chaos now. Italian banks two weeks ago. I think that's going to cave in before we got what we got.

Gerry: That was a great politician's answer.

IKO: Seems they really have done a good job setting this up. It is my understanding that Wells has set up an entirely separate corporation to do the exchange. Not a division, an entirely separate corporation.

Gerry: So what's on their call is absolutely right. Wells Fargo will never ever have anything to do with the Dinar and that is totally correct. It's a separate division/corporation. We just didn't think outside the box..

IKO: They are telling the truth, but they're not telling the truth.

Caller WA: I've been reviewing my notes and you said to put my money in a State Bank or a Republic bank.

Gerry: No, a State Bank. The one I'm looking at gave up their Federal charter and went back to a state bank charter. I feel they are in a little bit better shape. All banks are tied into the federal government – they have government regulation. You can also put your money in a credit union, but I've heard the limits are $10,000,000.

Caller: I struggle with the conversation about moving my money off shore legally. Won't WF be extremely unhappy when you move you money offshore? Obviously you don't tell them before the fact. When the money is in your account, you quietly move it off shore.

Gerry: I believe that we've heard rumors that the Chinese own a great portion of WF like HSBC and it's still going to be within their banking system. It's just going to be offshore. It's a legal way to protect it in these economic times that might take a downturn here. How's that for a politician's statement? WF is tied in w/foreign banks and they'll be happy w/that.

Caller: So you can freely talk to them about that?

Gerry: I believe so.

LV Caller: Wants to buy a house, but doesn't have money to get a trust now. Pay cash and then move it into trust?

Gerry: Move it into trust after RV and let the trust pay it off.

IKO: Interest rates on a mortgage are 3% right now. If you can make 9-10%, you don't want to spend that capital. Let your money work for you and make mortgage payments instead. You don't have to be a multi-millionaire to have a trust. You just have to hire the expertise to manage it for you.

Caller MN: Go into all cash for end of world scenario after RV per other gurus. Get other currencies or go offshore to hedge against all this?

IKO: I would say, not quite in that fashion. But you do want to protect against some hyper-inflation and it looks like more than a couple months. Be careful of what you hear in a chat room.

Gerry: Let you financial adviser advise you.

Gerry: Praying the call out.


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