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Judy Notes! (LOL) 5/5/20

[size=18]Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of 5 May, 2020[/size]

Compiled 5 May 2020 12:01 am EDT by Judy Byington, MSW, LCSW, Therapist ret, Journalist, Author, “Twenty Two Faces: inside the extraordinary life of Jenny Hill and her twenty two multiple personalities.”

[size=18]Divide They Try, Fail They Will, WWG1WGA to Support POTUS, Follow Q & Trust Plan[/size]

It’s not all about the money, it’s all about the children. Let us fast and pray for thousands of malnourished and traumatized children who were being rescued from underground torture chamber tunnels of the Cabal. And, for the Military Troops who were risking their lives to save them. The ancient doctrine of Fasting and Prayer was explained here at the 10:30:32 mark:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mb9gU6DmKs 

As we embarked on this great opportunity to do good in the world remember that you were a Child of God who was sent here to perform a special mission on this earth and only you could decide through consultation with your Heavenly Father, what that mission would be. 

If you wish to help save children from international sex trafficking, contact Tim Ballard at Operation Underground Railroad: https://ourrescue.org/about/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT4tmI8YxCU&feature=emb_rel_end 

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) regularly investigates more than 400 violations of criminal law, ranging from transnational gangs to child exploitation inside and outside the US. This included the rape, torture and murder of children by Satanic worshippers. Use this form to report suspected criminal activity: https://www.ice.gov/webform/hsi-tip-form 

Judy Note: Today Mon. 4 May President Trump was at Camp David with the President of Zimbabwe. 

Also on this Mon. 4 May at 3:02 pm EDT Fleming’s Military Intel Contact reported that the rest of the $1200 Economic Impact Payments would go out this week and Redemption/ Exchange appointments would also happen the first of this week. 

POTUS has done everything by the book to make all legally unassailable so that post-RV Deep State operatives could not unravel ZIM redemptions for us, or for the Restored Republic, or for any other GCR/RV GESARA / NESARA protocol. 

Timelines were not off by far, only hours. They had a hold up Mon. 4 May at the World Court in the Hague making modifications to contracts and agreements to get this out this week and were signed and received this sameMon 4 May. Audits passed today Mon. 4 May about 1-2 pm EDT and release given by the Department of Defense to proceed at 4pm EDT. 

Timing of the 800#s release was fluid and subject to a release algorithm, developments like a World Court response, progress of regular audits and modification by the Elders and POTUS (DoD security, UST, State Dept and White House teams) changing the timing for safety and security reasons. 

All was proceeding toward T4a,b 800# notifications and shotgun start release via 800#s from any moment to over the next 72 hours (intentionally vague for security reasons). 

The Admiral would be releasing liquidity from tomorrow Tues. 5 May onward. The expectation was for full payouts in Honk Kong & other centers tomorrow afternoon/evening Tues. 5 May for the historic bonds, including Yellow Dragon Bonds, Chinese Railroad Super Petchili Bonds, Mexican Gold Bonds and high valued (exotic) Treasuries. 

The banks were finalizing getting enough staff in the Redemption Centers and overcoming some hiccups from exchange staff reticent to serve because of potential Covid-19 infection (due to irrational Scamdemic fear mongering, though had enough alternate staff in place in the coming hours to be ready to start any time this week. 

On Mon. 4 May MarkZ’s Hong Kong Contact reported that he was expecting bond payouts on Tues. evening 5 May (Tues. morning EDT). Unless significant problems arose the 800s# release for Tier 4b was expected to begin by Tues. 5 May. 

The Department of Defense through the US Treasury, told HSBC and Wells Fargo that Wells Fargo was to send out the 500,000+ 800# notification emails by Tues. 5 May – the timing dependent upon agencies cooperating and barring unseen obstacles. 

There would be around twelve days of Tier 4b redemption-exchanges for Contract Rates in appointments at special Exchange Center locations obtained by calling the 800s#. 

According to Fleming’s Military Intel Contact they had to get the shotgun start done, including the bulk of Tier 4b redemptions, by Fri. 15 May so that the IMF could start General Public exchanging foreign currencies at the new international rates at local banks around 1 June. 

Tier 4a,b would go approximately at the same time (within hours). 

Department of Defense security teams determined that Iran and Saudi Arabia should still be in the redemption-exchange offering (1st basket) because Deep State control has been weakened enough in those countries. 

Restored Republic: As of 1 May, 2020 the US returned to Constitutional Law.

According to Fleming’s Military Intel Contact, over the past two months thousands of Deep State operatives have been arrested globally behind the scenes. The last thing Department of Defense and the security teams wanted was to make public some of the names of former Obama administration arrestees prematurely for Intel providers to put out to hundreds of thousands of listeners/readers, and thereby cause a public unrest firestorm. The evidence would be released shortly by the Department of Defense Security Teams working with the Department of Justice. 

Sealed indictments were unsealed and executed in behind-the-scenes arrests for Comey on Sun 3 May, Strzok & Page on Mon. 4 May, Lynch, Yates, Brennan, Clapper, McCabe, Ohr, Rice, Baker and Ciaramella (the anonymous "whistleblower" against POTUS in Ukraine call). The Department of Defense Security Teams were determining which of these should be made public this week and when. As of Mon. 4 May Attorney General William Barr appeared to have enough evidence to bring traitor charges against leaders of the Obama Administration including Obama and Biden. 

A. May 4 2020 Black Patriot: https://dinartube.com/black-conservative-patriot-123/ US Attorney General Barr, Durham and Jensen were reported to have enough evidence from General Flynn to make traitor charges against Obama, Biden, McCabe, Comey, Rosenstein, Clapper, Yates, Rice, Brennan, the CIA, FBI, National Intelligence, DOJ, National Security Advisors and the former US Attorney General’s office. All appeared involved in the Russian Collusion Hoax to take down duly elected President Trump. Flynn was former head of the Defense Intelligence under Obama and was believed prosecuted and sent to jail by the Obama Administration because he wanted to revise the intelligence community. 

B. Comey and Brennan Should Get the Death Penalty, Washington Examiner: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/former-cia-operative-people-like-comey-and-brennan-should-get-death-penalty 

C. Iran Ditching Real, Will Install Toman Currency:https://www.rferl.org/a/iran-announces-plan-make-toman-official-currency-ditching-real/28162810.html 

D. May 4 2020 RV Intel Alert: Operation Disclosure Intel Alert (5-4-20): "Proclamation" 
[size=18](Disclaimer: The following is an overview of the current situation of the world based on intelligence received from several sources which may or may not be accurate or truthful.)[/size]

1. The US returned to Constitutional Law as of May 1, 2020. The below were signs of progress in the restoration of the Republic.https://operationdisclosure1.blogspot.com/2020/05/reader-chuff-proclamation-on-law-day.html

2. This proclamation by President Trump checked off event #6 off the GESARA agenda list:
"(6.) Returns Constitutional Law to all courts and legal matters."
[size=18]https://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/20-answers-gesara-update-thursday.html[/size]

3. Events #1, #2, #3, #5, #13, and #18 were already in progress.

"(1.) Cancels all credit card, mortgage, and other bank debt due to illegal banking and government activities. Many refer to this as a “jubilee” or complete forgiveness of debt."

"(2.) Abolishes income tax."

"(3.) Abolishes the IRS, with employees of the IRS will be transferred into the US Treasury national sales tax area."

"(5.) Increases benefits to senior citizens."

"(13.) Eliminates the Federal Reserve System. During the transition period the Federal Reserve will be allowed to operate side by side of the U.S. treasury for one year in order to remove all Federal Reserve notes from the money supply."

"(18). Releases unprecedented prosperity with enormous sums of money for humanitarian purposes."

4. GESARA events #7, #11, #15 were now expected to occur in the coming months due to President Trump's proclamation:

"(7.) Reinstates the original Title of Nobility amendment."

"(11.) Forbids the sale of American birth certificate records as chattel property bonds by the US Department of Transportation."

"(15.) Retrains all judges and attorneys in Constitutional Law."

5. GESARA was happening in the US first and the rest of the world was expected to follow as agreed upon between world leaders and organizations working with the Alliance.

6. Meanwhile, progress toward transitioning to a new financial system continued.

7. Here's a word from Q and Q+ (President Trump):

Q Post 4076: For Democrats, COVID-19 Is All about Keeping the Country Closed and Winning the Upcoming Election.
What would have happened if POTUS challenged the COVID-19 narrative from the beginning?
Sometimes you can't TELL the public the truth.
YOU MUST SHOW THEM.
Who benefits the most?
WHY ARE [D]'S SOLELY FOCUSED ON CLOSURE [RETAINING] AND VOTE-BY-MAIL?
They do not care about your well-being.
You are simply in the way.
This is about regaining POWER.
Self-preservation.
Every asset deployed.
Win by any means necessary.
WIN OR DIE.
Q

Q Post 4095: 'STAY WITH ME DEPLORABLES. YOU'LL LOVE HOW THIS MOVIE ENDS.' Q+

[size=18]E. International Child Sex Trafficking:[/size]

Actor Jim Carrey Said Hollywood Elites Eat Babies for Christmas:https://jasperandsardine.wordpress.com/2018/12/13/jim-carrey-says-hollywood-elites-eat-whole-babies-for-christmas-the-more-they-suffer-the-better-they-taste/ https://newspunch.com/jim-carrey-hollywood-babies-christmas/ 

Two audios on the children being rescued from tunnels in Central Park NY:https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=military+rescues+children+underground+tunnels&docid=608044665893683357&mid=F0A799417BACF30E2D6FF0A799417BACF30E2D6F&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

Are children being rescued from underground tunnels?https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=military+rescues+children+underground+tunnels&&view=detail&mid=9125DFBB4A6F08E9C5A59125DFBB4A6F08E9C5A5&rvsmid=F0A799417BACF30E2D6FF0A799417BACF30E2D6F&FORM=VDQVAP

Ex-Banker Admits He Participated In Ritual Sacrifice Parties With The Elite 

Newly Christian Justin Bieber Claims ‘Evil Music Industry’ Killed His Unborn Child 

Adrenochrome: Evil Drug Of The Super-Elite, Harvested From Terrorized Children 

AFter Podesta’s Laptop Seized, File Titled ‘Life Insurance’ Allegedly Shows Hillary And Huma Sexually Abusing And Torturing A Little Girl 

Pizzagate: Pedophilia, Child Sex Trafficking & Those Who Participate 

Katy Perry’s New Video Suggestive Of Cannibalism And Pedophile Lingo 

Pizzagate, Spirit Cooking, Occult And Beyond 

Sacha Stone talks about Adrenochrome on Camelot TV Network:https://youtu.be/WcQmzu-_ZBk 

[size=18]F. Recent History of the GCR/RV Rollout:[/size]

The White Dragon and Chinese Elders would not tolerate any more delays. President Trump, the Alliance and their teams of about 40 (DoD, UST, WH, State Dept) were trying to expedite and speed up the release sequence tasks from the security, legal, administrative and political sides that would stop or delay the release timing. All were pressing for start by first half of next week so that contract dates did not have to be changed again. An attorney who works with the Admiral said: “The RV is done. The final release starts with Yellow Dragon Bond Notes, then Petchilli Bonds, then ZIM.” 

By Wed. 22 April Iraq, Zimbabwe, China and Vietnam were using their own asset/gold backed currencies and no longer accepting the fiat US dollar and using their own asset/gold backed currencies. 

On Thurs. 30 April Trump entered authorization codes for the RV/GCR release, which gave the Admiral a green light to process the new asset-backed US Note – now accepted for exchange internationally – and Paymasters became liquid. 

As of Fri. 1 May the new asset-backed digital dollar was on all trading platforms – that was highly important as all other countries would peg their RV rates to the USN rate. Intermediate accounts such as CMKX, Farm Claims, Native American settlements and sovereign accounts, were being paid out and Trump started formally reopening the country. The Department of Defense security teams confirmed that payouts began but there were some issues (among other things freezing and reversing Deep State currency holder funds transfers), but they said the problems were not major so all things should stay on schedule. 

Over the past week funds have been transferred by the Elders into the master accounts for disbursement. As of Fri. 1 May the financial, legal and political framework of the GCR/RV release had been established globally and the reset preparations were done. It would roll out slowly so that they could catch the bad guys. There would be a lot of disinformation to throw the bad guys off track. 

Over last weekend there were a series of audits and reviews moving forward. On Sat. at 12:30 pm 2 May security and other audits passed, allowing all to move forward. Historical Bonds were being paid out, creating liquidity for down line disbursement. 

Over last weekend they were trying to get all priority payments to intermediate accounts so by Mon. 4 May it could be firmly established when Tier 4b would start redemptions-exchanges and the shotgun start funds sequence initiated. 

Overnight Sun. night 3 May there was a RV rate lock-in. The current UST schedule called for 800# notification release as soon as the Intermediate Accounts priority payments were made. 

[size=18]G. Restored Republic:[/size]

By Sun. 26 April Trump’s podium no longer contained the Presidential Seal and he stood in front of seven US Flags with no gold trim on them – meaning the US Corporation was no longer in charge and we were back to functioning under the original Constitution. 

Those seven flags were believed to represent 7 trumpets, or the 7 broadcasts that would lay out information on the New Restored Republic. The first trumpet sounded with release of Wikileaks documents on the Internet. The second trumpet sounded with Trump’s announcement of the exoneration of General Flynn. Flynn had been falsely accused, tried and imprisoned by the Deep State it was believed, because he knew where all the bodies were buried. 

The Department of Defense security team had flagged over 1,000 Deep State Operatives currency and Zim holder accounts which were found to be money-laundering RV/GCR funds into Deep State front companies, or the personal accounts of Deep State bad actors like Soros, Pelosi, Obama, Holder, Dorsey (Twitter CEO), Zuckerberg (Facebook CEO), Bezos (Amazon CEO) or Brennan etc. 

The operatives were arrested, accounts frozen and fund transfers reversed. This past week behind the scenes, there were a series of high level arrests tied to both military courts and civilian Common Law courts. The Department of Defense security teams wanted to carefully choose which arrests would be made public this next week, but it would be on the level of Brennan, Comey, McCabe, Mueller, etc. The Department of Defense security teams, military and NSA Intel have been arresting over 12,000 of these types over the past couple of months, while over 184,000 federal indictments on global and political elites were being unsealed and served. 

On Thurs. 30 April President Trump signed an Executive order instigating Martial Law, and the next day on Fri. 1 May activated the International Emergency Economic Powers Act and the National Emergencies Act, and then left for Camp David. 

Globally GESARA was established and started legally & financially through debt forgiveness to African nations and other countries. GESARA / NESARA would be fully implemented over the next 3-6 months, through about Nov 2020.

H. Currency Exchange/Bond Redemption: Please treat the below as my guess. Official instructions would be available upon RV liquidity and 800# release. 

[size=18]WARNING: DO NOT give your foreign currency or Zim Bonds to anyone else to exchange or redeem for you. If a Group Leader was telling you that they could obtain better rates for you, or saying not to go to your appointment at an Exchange Center, they were not telling the truth.[/size]

Anyone could exchange and redeem their own currencies and would have the same ability to obtain the higher Contract Rates as anyone else, as long as they did it at a licensed Exchange Center as per appointment through the 800#s. 

I am not aware of how someone outside the US could redeem Zim Bonds. That question should be asked to the person who set your appointment. 

An hour or so prior to 800# release, Wells Fargo and HSBC Banks would send out over 508,000 emails to currency and Zim Bond holders worldwide, along with instructions on how to exchange and redeem within your own country. Those emails would include links to a secured website. Clicking on that website with your computer or phone would automatically generate a code that identified your individual exchange/redemption as you set your appointment. 

Exchange information would also be available on certain websites as below:

Dinar Chronicles: http://www.dinarchronicles.com/tetelestai.html
Dinar Recaps: https://www.dinarrecaps.com/our-blog
MarkZ: https://www.twitch.tv/theoriginalmarkz
MarkZ Twitter: m.twitter.com/originalmarkz
Bruce: http://bigcalluniverse.com/callarchive/
TNT Tony: https://twitter.com/the_tnt_team
Dinar Detectives: https://dinardetectives.com/ 

I. Currency and Zim Bond Redemption: This information applied to redeemers in the US. Different countries would have their own regulations and rules. Please treat as my opinion only: 

Fleming: They wanted currency holders, especially ZIM holders, to go in as quickly as possible to the first appointment that would last 20-25 minutes. 

The Elders wanted currency and Zim holders to get the highest rates for doing humanitarian projects. Every currency holder would get an equal chance at the highest Contract Rates for their project presentations. It would be a level playing field. 

First Appointment: You would receive a debit/credit card with millions on it to draw on between the first and second appointments. Over the first ten days after your first appointment your assigned Wealth Manager would help you choose one of the six vetted US Treasury-sanctioned trust companies (Abbott Downing & equivalent trust companies). 

Second Appointment: The Wealth Manager and private banking team you choose would assist you going forward with your humanitarian and job creation project outlines. They would be happy to take your project presentation to the US Treasury to get the higher rates for your ZIM and/or the highest Contract Rates for your currencies. They would have six months (180 days) after redeeming / exchanging to seek the higher rates for your project outlines from the US Treasury. 

MarkZ: The redemption process would be done in two parts. The banks already had one part of your package. The second part would be delivered to you. You then go to the bank to finish your redemption process. I have spoken to bankers that claim they have physically seen the banking part of the packages. 

On your first appointment at a Redemption Center you would exchange currencies at Contract Rates and redeem Zim at the default rate. Those monies would be put in your account. If you wanted higher rates than offered on your currency and/or Zim, you could ask for such at your second appointment with your Wealth Manager and banking team. 

We have been told that the default ZIM rate of $11 million per 100 T Zim Note would be offered at that first appointment. 

President Trump has given US banks a list of 250 humanitarian and job creation projects to invest in. Your Wealth Manager and banking team could explain the details at your second appointment. They would explain the international humanitarian projects you could invest in and you could present a Humanitarian Project. It was recommended that you go for those higher rates at your second appointment so you could help those in need. 

If you had any amount of Zim Bonds up to 9 100T Notes, didn’t have a Humanitarian Project and wanted a higher than default rate, then at your second appointment, your Wealth Manager and team would be happy to show you the list of 250 humanitarian and job creation projects to invest in for higher-than-default rates on the ZIM. 

If you had any amount of Zim Bonds up to 9 100T Notes and had a humanitarian project, and/or if you wanted to invest in the sanctioned international projects, then at your second appointment, your Wealth Manager and team would help you obtain a higher Zim rate. 

Many ZIM holders had 10 or more 100T ZIM Notes, so the default rate would be considered adequate without being awarded higher Contract or Zim rates. 

[size=18]J. “Twenty Two Faces: inside the extraordinary life of Jenny Hill and her twenty two multiple personalities,” Judy Byington[/size]

WARNING: Jenny gave a graphic description of being raped, tortured and forced to view a Child Sacrifice at the tender age of five – not unlike sordid experiences of thousands of other child victims of Satanic Worshippers. Such perpetrator-followers of Satan were organized from the US Inc’s CIA, Queen Elizabeth’s, Vatican’s Ninth Circle Child Sacrifice Cult on down to the Clintons, Hollywood, Pizzagate and local teenage covens. They appeared funded by this same Cabal that ran our global monetary system – the very organization that was in the process of being brought down by activation of the Global Currency Reset. It’s no wonder that President Trump has stated, “These people are sick.”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F626Lsrdwg4 

K. Judy Note: I do not now, nor have I ever, received monies for writing my Updates and articles. The compensation has been in having outlets to help Save the Children by exposing truths about the very secretive Satanic Ritual Abuse, Pedophilia and Child Sacrifice that was rampant in our international society. 

To inquire about our International Child Abuse Recovery, Trauma Survivors (CARTS) Humanitarian Program, email: info@22faces.com 

If you wish to help save children from international sex trafficking, contact Tim Ballard at Operation Underground Railroad: https://ourrescue.org/about/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT4tmI8YxCU&feature=emb_rel_end 

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) investigates more than 400 violations of criminal law, ranging from child exploitation to transnational gangs inside and outside the US. This would include the rape, torture and murder of children by Satanic worshippers. Use this form to report suspected criminal activity: https://www.ice.gov/webform/hsi-tip-form 

[size=18]The above was a summary of information from the Internet. It would be up to the reader to do their own research and decide whether or not it was valid. A Thank You to those dedicated and brave intel providers who wished to remain unknown; to humble Wildfirelady who is adept at exposing the truth; to Martha who works around the clock to discern what is real in the fake news; to Brad who does great research and Ken who uncovers almost unlimited intel on pedophilia to help us Save the Children.

Divide They Try, Fail They Will, WWG1WGA to Support POTUS, Follow Q & Trust Plan

Let us Thank Q that the reset has finally come to be. I wish you well in your humanitarian efforts and look forward to seeing you on the other side where together, we will make life better for all.

Patience is a Virtue. Having Virtue is a sign of a good moral being. Good moral beings have the power to overcome evil and change the world. Judy[/size]

WHNT's "Iraqi Dinar: Fact or Fiction?" (5/11/2014)

Iraqi Dinar Investment: Fact or Fiction?

POSTED 10:00 PM, MAY 9, 2014, BY MICHELLE STARK, UPDATED AT 08:05AM, MAY 13, 2014

[size=14]This is an archived article and the information in the article may be outdated. Please look at the time stamp on the story to see when it was last updated.

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(Video plays after News Station ad)

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. (WHNT) - Across the country and in the Tennessee Valley, people are buying Iraqi dinar.  They’ve been told it will one day rise sharply in value against the U.S. dollar, leading to a financial windfall for them.

Albertville resident Tim Jones is one of those who bought in, along with his pastor and several church members.

Years later, the payoff still hasn't come.  A WHNT News 19 investigation also uncovered warnings from state regulators, the Better Business Bureau and financial experts calling dinar investment a scam.

Despite the warnings, many people remain invested.  They continue to hold the physical currency - often purchased through private dealers at a markup - and point to specific claims as justification for buying in.

So are those claims, used to promote dinar as a good investment, fact or fiction?

WHNT News 19 took action to find out.  Here's what our investigation found:


[b]Claim #1: There will be a "revaluation" or "RV" of Iraqi dinar, raising its value against the U.S. dollar and leading to a payoff for the investor[/b]

Currency expert John Jagerson, of LearningMarkets.com, tells WHNT News 19 a "revaluation" of Iraqi dinar "could not happen" and "is not planned to happen."

Jagerson, who spent years researching the subject and authored an e-book called [i]The Iraqi Dinar Scam: Why Buying the Dinar is for Dummies[/i], adds that many of the "facts" dinar investors believe are actually false.

Jagerson thinks many dinar promoters are "perpetrating falsehoods" to increase the attractiveness of dinar; perhaps profiting off connections to dinar dealers, or exclusive website memberships and online advertising.  State regulators agree, warning dinar promoters will "misrepresent history" to try to prove profits are possible.

As Jagerson explains, it's not in Iraq's interest to allow the dinar's value to rise - even through a small appreciation - since it would make it harder for the country to pay off debts, more expensive for foreign companies to do business and limit Iraq's post-war growth.

"Why would Iraq want to do to their currency what no other country wants to do?" Jagerson emphasized.  "It would be like standing on your economic brakes with both feet.  No one does it because it makes no sense."

He points out that dinar speculators also often confuse the economic terms [i]revaluation[/i]and [i]redenomination.[/i]

In a redenomination, often done when inflation has reached untenable levels in a country, old bills of larger denominations are swapped for new bills of smaller denominations.  An old 25,000 dinar note could, for example, be exchanged for a new 25 dinar note.  Under this "dropping the zeros" scenario, the purchasing power (or value) of the new note is the same as the old note.  Nobody makes any money.

As Reuters reports, Iraq is on record as saying it eventually intends "to redenominate the Iraqi dinar to simplify financial transactions in an economy that is still heavily centralised."  WHNT News 19 could find no credible reports of a stated intent to "revalue."

The U.S. State Department was also quite clear on the possibility of a "revaluation" in Iraq when contacted for comment.  The State Department is sometimes blamed for holding up Iraq's "RV" along with various international bodies.  Spokesperson Noel Clay however, gave WHNT News 19 the following statement:

[i]"We are unaware of any plans by the Iraqi government to revalue the Iraqi Dinar.  Iraq is a sovereign nation and the U.S. government plays no role in determining Iraq's [/i][i]foreign exchange policies."[/i]
 

[b]Claim #2: There was a "revaluation" in Kuwait that shows something similar is possible in Iraq[/b]

Banking and financial experts confirm to WHNT News 19 that while market forces did cause Kuwait's currency to fluctuate in value during and after the 1990 Iraqi invasion, there was never a revaluation like many describe.

"Historically, a revaluation where your currency suddenly becomes worth many times what it used to be in the foreign exchange, that's never happened. Ever," Jagerson said firmly.

When Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, the Iraqi dinar replaced the Kuwaiti dinar as currency.  Kuwaiti dinar was essentially relegated to black market status.  As explained on the Kuwaiti government's own website, banking stopped inside the country and invading Iraqis stole huge amounts of Kuwaiti dinar and riches.

After liberation, Kuwait's dinar was restored as that country's official currency and new banknotes were issued to keep all the stolen monies from being used.  During this issuing, the pre-invasion rate was simply reestablished.

Iraq's history and circumstances are also very different from Kuwait.

A top executive at one of the nation's largest banks spoke on background to WHNT News 19.  The executive explained that while it's possible some people may have profited from holding Kuwaiti dinar during a market-led appreciation post-liberation, expecting anything similar in Iraq is totally unrealistic.

A March 2014 Wells Fargo "International Strategy" memo explains further.  It describes, in detail, why both 1960s West Germany and Kuwait are "poor precedent for Iraq."  The memo also warns of elevated risks of illiquidity and fraud for dinar buyers.


[b]Claim #3: President George W. Bush's Executive Order 13303 gives Americans special legal rights to hold or invest in Iraqi dinar[/b]


As you can see here, 13303 specifically protects the Development Fund for Iraq, as well as Iraqi oil products and interests - including ownership by U.S. persons - from any legal attachments or liens.  It does [i]not[/i] mention dinar, or investment in dinar, at all.

In this 2012 federal indictment against "BH Group" for fraud in the marketing and selling of Iraqi dinars, a grand jury also charges: "Any assertion that Executive Order 13303 promotes, protects, or regulates the sale of or investment in, Iraqi dinar is false." See page 5, charge 14.


[b]Claim #4: The U.S. Treasury holds a large position in Iraqi dinars[/b]


The same federal indictment against "BH Group" states that, in fact, the "U.S. Department of the Treasury does not hold any Iraqi dinar for investment purposes and holds only a nominal amount for use."


[b]Claim #5: I bought my dinar at a bank and it's a real currency, so it's clearly not a scam[/b]

Different U.S. banks appear to have purchased and sold dinar at various times in recent years.  At time of broadcast, WHNT News 19 could find no banks currently exchanging the currency, although they may exist.

Those with knowledge of the banking industry tell WHNT News 19 banks are under no "official" restriction when it comes to buying or selling Iraqi dinar and that some may have stopped due to concerns over dinar speculation.

Jay Lawrence, Southeast Communications Manager for Wells Fargo, provided the following statement to WHNT News 19, explaining why the bank does not deal in dinar:

[i]"Wells Fargo does not offer any consumer exchange for Iraqi dinar.  Wells Fargo provides a wide range of foreign currency banknote services, generally for travel-related purposes to meet the needs of our customers traveling abroad.  [/i][i]We do not, however, expect a high number of customers traveling to Iraq for business or leisure purposes in the near future.[/i]
[i]As a result, we do not trade Iraqi dinar and we have no plans to change this policy in the future.  [/i][i]We are aware that some websites or blogs promote the purchase of Iraqi dinar as an investment strategy.  We disagree with the view that holding Iraqi dinar banknotes is a sound investment strategy."[/i]

The statement directly contradicts claims from dinar promoters that "1-800" numbers are, or will be set up at Wells Fargo, to exchange dinar for customers.

Jagerson, along with state regulators, emphasize that it's not Iraqi dinar itself that's the problem.

 "It's the investment in the currency as a way to make profits that’s the scam," Jagerson said.


[b]Claim #6: There's a "Global Currency Reset" that banks, governments and global players like the World Bank or IMF are secretly coordinating and/or holding up[/b]

"That's probably one of the biggest fantasies in the scam - that there is some kind of government conspiracy behind it," Jagerson said.

A high-level executive at one of the nation's largest banks also laughed off the idea of a currency reset.  The executive told WHNT News 19 private banks do not play a role in sovereign countries' exchange rate management.

The creation of any new global economic framework would also almost certainly have coverage in the respected financial media.

The International Monetary Fund's mission chief for Iraq, Carlo Sdralevich, was even more blunt, sending WHNT News 19 the following statement:

[i]"No such a thing as a 'Global Currency Reset' exists. [/i][i]The IMF has no role in managing the Iraqi dinar or Iraq's exchange rate system.[/i]
 
[i]We work with the Iraqi government and central bank to provide policy advice and technical assistance as part of our ongoing dialogue with them. Decisions on the exchange rate are taken by the country authorities in full independence and sovereignty.[/i]
 
[i]There is no external constraint imposed preventing the Iraqi dinar's revaluation or devaluation. The stability of the dinar is the result of Iraq's own monetary and exchange rate policies."[/i]
 

Representatives from both the World Bank and U.S. State Department said the same, when asked by WHNT News 19 to clarify what operational powers they have in Iraq.

The State Department [url=http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB198/FOI Economy and Infrastructure.pdf]also addressed this document[/url] specifically, which some dinar supporters argue shows an official goal of a 1:1 exchange ratio of Iraqi dinar to U.S. dollars.

State Department spokesperson Noel Clay said of the document, "I am not familiar with it and cannot vouch for its validity.  Regardless, it is from June 2005 and Iraq has undergone significant change since then.  I would suggest that the document would hold little relevance to Iraq today."


[b]Claim #7: Iraqi dinar is still a good buy, even without a "revaluation"[/b]

Even without an "RV" or "Global Currency Reset," some investors believe Iraq's oil reserves and development potential make dinar a good purchase.  Some investors argue the market could drive a strong appreciation in the future.

In 2009, CNBC financial host Jim Cramer appeared to give dinar investment a green light, commenting on the nation's potential for growth post-war, especially with regard to oil companies.  "I'm always in favor of owning the currency as a play," Cramer said.  Click here to watch the clip.
Currencies don't behave like stocks though and as Jagerson points out, a rising GDP doesn't guarantee gains.  In fact, history shows that for countries like Iraq, "Having a growing economy and growing oil exports does not equal a growing currency.  Generally, it's exactly the opposite," Jagerson explained.

Jagerson started researching Iraqi dinar after a close friend invested, then turned to him for expert insight.  Jagerson said he spotted the red flags immediately and wants to use his currency acumen to keep others from falling victim.  He's produced several online videos to explain, in simple terms, why the arguments in favor of dinar investment don't add up. Click here to watch them.

After reading the findings above, some dinar investors may be feeling misled.  Concerned individuals can contact the Alabama Securities Commission, which recently issued a statewide "Investor Alert" addressing dinar.

If you purchased the currency and feel you were sold false claims about its potential to rise in value, call (334) 242-2984 or 1-800-222-1253.  You can also email asc@asc.alabama.gov.

To read the warnings WHNT News 19 uncovered about dinar investment from state regulators, the Better Business Bureau and financial experts, click here.

my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas

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my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 08:09:47 AM »
My brother reconnected with a female friend from grade school about 9 months ago and they are going to get married in May 2018. She is a nice girl with a good heart. However, she is really excited about the Iraqi Dinar RV (re-evaluation) that is going to happen within the next 3-6 months (according to her). 

She pretty much brain washed my brother into buying into this idea. My brother has a 4 year degree in Business Entrepreneurship. He is all about the high risk and high reward type of thing. He tried and failed a few MLM businesses over the last 5-10 years. She graduated high school. They are both 36. 

However, this type of business scheme is a little bit of a stretch for my brother, but not entirely uncommon. 

My brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my birthday last June and for Christmas. He also bought it for my wife and 1 year old son. We have about 400,000 of Iraqi Dinar, which I think is about 325 US dollars. He is giving me a hard sell to buy some for myself or I could miss out on some big profits of 100 to 1, when it re-evaluates. 
 
The best article I could find out about it is below. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jayadkisson/2012/07/30/you-cant-fix-stupid-the-iraqi-dinar-scam-lives/#3f398ae3150b

1) Any chance that I could politely tell my brother to stop buying me this crap?

2) Any chance that I could politely tell my brother to stop buying it for himself? 

3) How do the sellers make money? Do they just give the buyer a poor exchange rate?

4) What is the best way to convert my Iraqi Dinar back into US currency? 

Thank you.
« [i]Last Edit: December 27, 2017, 01:35:31 PM by clarkfan1979[/i] »

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #1 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 12:32:17 PM »
Good luck getting him to change his mind...

As for converting them to US dollars, ask your bank/credit union. There is usually one bank in the area that specializes in currency. In my area (Salt Lake City) it is Zion’s Bank. Call first. 

Good Luck

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« [b]Reply #2 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM »
Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?

That not being the case, here's my thinking, for what it's worth (which should be very little, since, as admitted above, I have zero familiarity with the topic): If there's even a small chance of the "100 to 1" valuation, why not hold onto the stuff for now, just for fun? 

As for your questions:

1) Good luck with that. Forbes is well-known and as far as I know has a good reputation; could you send him that article?

2) See (1) above.

3 & 4) No effing clue. 

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #3 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:22:33 PM »
So when the Iraqis lop off a couple of zeroes off the currency, you'll basically be left with monopoly money.

The old banknotes obviously cease to be legal tender, with new ones issued in replacement.

People are still falling for Zimbabwe money scams. Looks like the scammers are expanding their repertoire...

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« [b]Reply #4 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:37:20 PM »
Quote from: Miss Piggy on December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM

Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?

That not being the case, here's my thinking, for what it's worth (which should be very little, since, as admitted above, I have zero familiarity with the topic): If there's even a small chance of the "100 to 1" valuation, why not hold onto the stuff for now, just for fun? 

As for your questions:

1) Good luck with that. Forbes is well-known and as far as I know has a good reputation; could you send him that article?

2) See (1) above.

3 & 4) No effing clue. 

I modified the topic. Thank you for the suggestion.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #5 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:59:24 PM »
On a side note, don't lend them money, and don't let them know how much you have. Just in case.

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« [b]Reply #6 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 02:07:08 PM »
Oh, the glorious Christmas gift of ENTERTAINMENT!   ClarkFan1979, so sorry you had to be the conduit for this pile of chuckles.  At least he is giving to you, not (so far) trying to get you to buy his wares, as so often happens in MLMs.  In my own mind, I will classify him as Kindhearted Bro until further notice.

Re your questions:
1. Of course you can tell him, but why rain on his parade?  He is not going to learn from you, only from experience, if at all.  He will, however, feel the love or disdain in your response.  Tell him you admire his bold spirit, and ask him if he's going to take you to Acapulco or Dubai when his dinars revalue.

2. See 1.  

3. I was wondering that myself.  I can only assume they sell above the exchange rate, or sell counterfeits, or sell the old notes that have been replaced by new ones when the Iraqi government lopped three zeroes off a few years ago (I read that Forbes article).  Best guess: selling the valueless old notes at the price of the new notes.  Great margins, plus they can appear to be giving zero markup.

4. Exchange it for Bitcoin!  Bwahaha, my whole response was just to make this one brief joke.  

Quiet times here, hope this offered a shred of amusement.  In all seriousness, I once had a friend whose financial schemes ranged from wild failure to just being broke on a regular basis.  The choice was to enjoy to his merry ways at the price of observing his failures, or block him off and wonder what was happening.  I chose to enjoy his merry ways.  Even more so, a relative is someone you don't want to block off unless staying connected is actively harmful.  Good luck getting rid of the bills or coins.  And having lost a relative or two in recent year, treasure your brother for who he is, even if it's not (fortunately!!) who you are.   Cheers.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #7 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 02:47:28 PM »
Quote from: Miss Piggy on December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM

Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?

Yes, huge disappointment. :p

+1 to exchange for Bitcoin.
+1 for being supportive to Kindhearted Bro, who sincerely thinks this will lead to mega riches and wants to share that prospect with you.

Answers to 1 & 2)
Explain that although you support him, you're a much more conservative investor and would prefer index funds instead... or traditional gifts such as clothes, gift cards, gadgets (even if you don't like them/need them it would still be preferable to his MLM stuff).

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #8 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 04:16:39 PM »
How does everyone NOT know this scam.  This is older than the Nigerian prince scam.  Go convert all that junk into real money.  Tell your brother that's what you did and if he gives you any more, you'll do it again.  Your brother should sell Amway.  Way better chance of making money than with this scam.

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« [b]Reply #9 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 02:48:45 AM »
I had some left over from Iraq deployments and eventually sold it all on Ebay. 

Ask your brother this... how can he explain the 100 to 1 value increase?  So you're saying an Iraqi could take his dinar and suddenly be 100x richer if he changes it to dollars (after the valuation)?  We're about to be flooded with Iraqi millionaires then. 

Secondly, if it was a real 'investment', then real rich folks would be buying every single dinar they could get their hands on.

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« [b]Reply #10 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 06:30:38 AM »
If your brother is anything like mine, tell him this is the best idea he’s ever had and you wished you thought of it. Tell him you support him 100% and you’d invest everything you have except you can’t but that he should right away. Cause if your brother is anything like mine, he’ll do the opposite of whatever you tell him and reject all of your advice.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #11 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 07:19:07 AM »
This scam has been going on for almost a decade. 

I have met quite a few people over the years who have tried to get me to "buy in". 

Good luck.

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« [b]Reply #12 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 08:32:11 AM »
Say thank you for the gift. Turn it into USD and invest it. Leave the issue alone. You are not going to solve your brother's problem.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #13 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 01:29:25 PM »
It's ironic that this is getting posted today. I was listening to NPR this morning and they had a segment on the Iraqi government's estimate on the cost to rebuild the destruction caused by ISIS. Unfortunately, no one is willing to help them finance the reconstruction effort and I imagine the Iraqi dinar will take a bigger hit when the government starts printing more money to rebuild. 

Zimbabwe Dollars though...those have value. I keep a few of those notes around around my MegaCorp office just in case we have a bad quarter in terms of revenue. For some reason my bosses don't seem to derive much comfort from the fact that if we're behind I can give them 10 BILLION DOLLARS!!!1!

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« [b]Reply #14 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 01:47:20 PM »
Oh this brings back memories of a nutter I knew a few years ago. I think the north Korean currency is the other one these folks also say is set to explode.  

I suppose it could be entertaining reading.

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« [b]Reply #15 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 02:28:57 PM »
I bought some when I was deployed in 2004-2005. About $200 worth (250,000 dinar). Last time I checked it's gone up in value to about $210. I suppose that's better than if I had left it in a savings account but had it been in an index fund it would have doubled or tripled since then. I can't recall what the rate of return has been but it's something like 1-2% over 12-13 years.

It was neat to pull it out and show my kids as I had a mix of various bills. That's about it though. It's just a souvenir at this point. Maybe I should sell some of it to your brother?

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« [b]Reply #16 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 06:48:28 PM »
Sell it to your brother

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« [b]Reply #17 on:[/b] December 31, 2017, 08:53:21 AM »
Thank you for the help. I will continue to support my brother with his business adventures, but not contribute any of my own money. 
 
I'm going to try to exchange it within the next 2-3 days. Not all currency exchange businesses will exchange the Dinar. I'm guessing there is a higher risk of counterfeit. Hopefully my Dinar is not counterfeit.  I will find out soon. 

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« [b]Reply #18 on:[/b] January 06, 2018, 08:52:45 PM »
I exchanged the Iraqi Dinar currency today for US dollars. An internet search today claims that $400,000 Iraqi Dinar is worth $337 US dollars. I went to the currency exchange in Denver at the Cherry Creek mall. They gave me $230 US dollars, minus a $5 fee for a total of $225. I have heard that a currency exchange will change 20%. However, this was a 33% fee. 

Maybe the fee is higher because of a higher level chance of fraud? When I looked at their board of exchange rates it looks like they charged only 15% for more legitimate currencies.

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« [b]Reply #19 on:[/b] January 06, 2018, 10:52:03 PM »
Quote from: clarkfan1979 on January 06, 2018, 08:52:45 PM

I exchanged the Iraqi Dinar currency today for US dollars. An internet search today claims that $400,000 Iraqi Dinar is worth $337 US dollars. I went to the currency exchange in Denver at the Cherry Creek mall. They gave me $230 US dollars, minus a $5 fee for a total of $225. I have heard that a currency exchange will change 20%. However, this was a 33% fee. 

Maybe the fee is higher because of a higher level chance of fraud? When I looked at their board of exchange rates it looks like they charged only 15% for more legitimate currencies.

They'll just be profiting on the currency spread. They might sell that 400,000 dinar to someone for $400 later on. The more common currencies that'll be easier for them to on-sell (and potentially less volatile) will probably have more competitive rates.

I've got some Sri Lankan rupees I've been meaning to sell from when I was there last year. They're valued at 120LKR to the Australian dollar at present (based on xe.com rates), but the currency conversion place will buy them at 140LKR to the AUD. I paid about 105-110 when I bought them

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #20 on:[/b] January 07, 2018, 05:43:33 PM »
Wowza, the spread on Polish Zlote (PLN) is about .02-.03PLN per dollar, or about one cent. 

33% sounds insane, so does 15%. 

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The thread reminded me that I have a butter tub of Saudi Riyals from Desert Storm.
I'll have to count it and see what it's worth.




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[size=10]Iraq Dinar: true or scam?[/size]

I came across an ad in the newspaper today, a website sells Iraq dinars 1M Iraq dinar is around $1.5k. I tried to investigate more, I found many sites that sell the dinar and actually the price varies. Some other sites warn about old and new currency or fake dinars. They compare the situation to Kuwait although very different. I think 1 dinar = 1 USD is impossible!!! 
That is fishy. 

BBB Warns that Iraqi Dinar Investment is Creating Concerns and Complaints!!!! 
http://www.bbb.org/us/article/bbb-warns ... laints-690

Can we buy the dinars from a Canadian bank? 
Is there a tax obligation after buying them? 
Is there a tax obligation if I want to sell them?

Can anyone share his experience with us? 
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I suggest you restrict your forex trading to countries not on the verge of military and political collapse.



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Scam or not, even if it's a real dinar it won't be worth much anyway. And yes, you should be able to buy from any respectable forex place. Try bank or even Money Mart.
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Why the f*** would you want to buy Iraqi dinars?




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tasamy [OP]Deal Addict Dec 23, 2005 2644 posts 135 upvotes Calgary

Thalo wrote: ↑Why the f*** would you want to buy Iraqi dinars?

I don't know if it is true or scam but anyway it is like gambling

1M Iraq dinar -> $1.5k
If Iraq dinar went to $1 (half of its value before war)
Then the $1.5k will be $1M ... but will that happen? Nobody knows!
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tasamy wrote: ↑I don't know if it is true or scam but anyway it is like gambling

1M Iraq dinar -> $1.5k
If Iraq dinar went to $1 (half of its value before war)
Then the $1.5k will be $1M ... but will that happen? Nobody knows!

This thread made me do some wiki research.

Iraq of the 70's and early 80's is quite a different place than today. In the early 90's the value was much lower, like 4000 dinar to 1 USD.

But hey, its your money.



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tasamy wrote: ↑I don't know if it is true or scam but anyway it is like gambling

Yes, it is. So you might as well just go to a Casino. You'll probably have more fun there, and you'll be less tempted to think that you are investing.
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AllWheelDriftDeal Addict Feb 9, 2005 4167 posts 14 upvotes
You should also consider the Zimbabwean Dollar. If you buy it and it recovers you'll make even more money. Don't forget they already did a 10,000,000,000:1 reverse split so when you compare it to the historic exchange rate, you need to multiply your predicted gains by 10,000,000,000. That means if the currencey returns back to where it was, you will make $10 billion by buying just $1 worth of Zimbabwean Dollars. Heck, even if it only went to 1/1000th of it's original value, you'd still have made a million dollars from your $1 investment.


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Wed. Night CC (follow-up from Monday, unfinished) September 12, 2018

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Frank26: We now walk into part 2 of our Monday Conference Call.Well it’s Part 2 of our Monday Conference Call. I thought we were running very, very late and I decided to stop at 10:15 which was already late as it was, and I promised I would give you more of it tonight.

What we’re going to do is, probably I say 30 no more than 40 minutes. What I was going to do, I guess what I am going to do, is turn this camera over so that you can see this computer that I have on my Left side. And what we’re going to do is very quickly, walk over just a few thoughts. A few articles. And then I’ll bring you back and I’ll tell you just a few interesting things, and then were going to play a 4 minute recording with Delta. And that will be our Conference Call for tonight.

So let’s get ready! Turn this Laptop around and Tink if you could please have it up and let me know if you think it’s centered well or not.

Let me go over here to my word document. Ca you all see this okay?

**Post # 95 on computer screen (From Final Article thread)

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have what we call a Final Article thread. I’ve purposely come back here to what we are calling Final Article # 95. #95 is interesting. Cuz there’s a conversation where Abadi is talking to the Citizens. He’s talking to the government. He’s talking to a bunch of reporters. And in this long conversations that you see, there’s a part where you see (posted in RED):

“We welcome the existence of any cooperation between us and neighboring countries in the field of local currencies”

Now what was it that we shared with you? BTW Everything in this CC is in my opinion and I hope that I bring it to you in dignity.

Now…“We welcome the existence of any cooperation between us and neighboring countries in the field of local currencies” What was it we said to you last week on our Conference Call? Not this Monday.. but a week ago?

We told you that in our opinion, the lower denoms with a Specimen mark on them are leaving the borders of Iraq. What did we tell you this PAST Monday? On our LASTConference Call? That in our opinion, we see the physical lower denom, marked Specimen, from the East to the West in many banks why is it being sent to banks Frank?

Because this is the currency that will be used in buying and selling and trading on a Global scale. The small notes are going to stay INSIDE the country, because there will be a rate change; along with the coins. And those belong to the citizens. They do not belong to the Global Market.

And here you can as far back as post # 95.. because we are up to post 100 now in the Final Articles thread. Just a few weeks ago. Look what Abadi says. Exactly what we told you the dinar, that is marked Specimen, is leaving Iraq. And Abadi is telling all of these neighboring countries, we’re cool with your currency, if you’re cool with ours. Of course we are. We know what you are doing. Yes you do.

The article goes on. Abadi says the following:

“I will not insist on a specific site and insist to serve the country. We welcome the existence of any cooperation between us and neighboring countries in the field of local currencies, and we do not want global domination that controls the economies of countries.”

Now what does that mean? Yes we’re going to swap. And yes, we’re sending our currency out to you. And yes, we’re going through a reinstatement of our currency. You want our currency don’t you? Yes we do. Good! And accept it. We did. And listen, we promise we don’t want “global domination that controls the economies of countries.”

In other words: We can send you our currency. We can send you our currency. It’s about to be globally recognized. It’s about to enter Article 8. We’re going to introduce our lower denominations too. We’re not going to have just one controlling currency anymore, like the American dollar. No more. You see, that’s not how it’s going to work anymore. WOWW.

I mean it’s right here (pointing to the quote above). This is a simple. This is as obvious as it gets.

Now the next one is Final Article # 96:

And it also talks about the currency of Iraq, that is being backed by how much? What’s that say? 89 tonnes of gold in their reserves! Wow! No wonder you can talk the way you’re talking! No wonder you’re proud of your currency to leave the borders. No wonder you’re using your currency, no one elses. Are these not the rules of and demands and obligations from the IMF? For Article 8? Yes they are. Okay. That’s good.

Family.. this is powerful, what I’m trying to show you tonight. Please enjoy. So, as he’s talking that yeah, we can back it up and we’re going to be sending it out and going to use only our currency. Lookie here. What’s that say right there? (pointing to a specific paragraph): “… replace our local currency (dinar) in the US currency (dollar)”

Okay. Thank you very much. What about it. Well the purpose is that uh, and we want uh… and what does it say?:

“And the deletion of the three zeros of the Iraqi currency, he replied Dagher that ‘this issue purely technical (Frank interjected: yeah we can do it at the flip of a switch) and has nothing to do with the rise or fall of the prices (Frank interjected Of course they can’t see it), and we are in the form of coins in our future projects although it is high cost (Frank: of course it cost to mint coins) longer in circulation.

(Frank: Of course it’s going to last longer than the old 250 and 500 that you are trying to replace) The Central Bank will inject the paper currency category 250 and 500 dinars to the local market in quantities that eliminate the existing health to be within the reach of the citizens to trade.”

Okay. Okay. Okay. So post #95 and #96 are telling you what they are doing family. There’s no doubt about it.

Iran! Iran! Iran! The most troubled… the reason why we still wait (along with Obama), for the reinstatement of the Iraqi dinar… Iran! Is cooperating! Look at that title right there!

Iran cancels the currency of the dollar during its dealings with Iraq and the exchange of these currencies. (02/09/2018)

Yes! Because you were told to weren’t you Iran! Uh… yeah I guess so. (chuckling)

Abadi. What’s he stressing now? Well, ya know, we got the largest bloc. It’s resolved. yeah. We’re all set. Well you were a government. You are a government. And you will be a government and nothing changed. Nothing has changed. Yes you built the largest bloc and the government is set. What does that mean? Well, it means that the HCL is now ready to open accounts for every citizen in Iraq. Because this government is ready to approve it. Is ready to pass the HCL.

Now there are many other little things, but notice that, Iraq.. they have a stable government now
“Abadi calls on the new parliament to cooperate with the next government to complete the priority laws”

“Abadi: I call the new parliament to cooperate with the next government serving the citizens.”

“Abadi: We have received Iraq in a state of loss it a strong unified.”

The government again, look at this stable, security, the removal of terrorism. Front page news. So this says Abadi, the next government will receive a stable state, from both the political and the security aspects. Wow.. if I didn’t know any better, it would seem like you’re trying to tell us something. You’re preparing something for the month of September aren’t you?

All those that tried to remove Abadi? Sorry. Sorry. We told you that we are in charge. We told you that the United States of America is making all the calls.

“Iraqis were surprised by the size of the US involvement forming the government”

Well.. surprise! Surprise! Surprise! Gomer. We told ya. Look at that (pointing to the article)

“America is trying to form its largest bloc or go to the rescue government”

No! They’re not going to do no rescue government! No! They’re not going to amend their constitution!

Meanwhile, the price of war is going ridiculous. It’s called “timing” family. It’s called beautiful timing! Don’t miss all these little stepping stones. Where…

"EVERYTHING [is] RETURNING [back to Iraq]”

“ THE KEY TO [this whole thing is like we told you] THE HCL… [like we told you on Monday]”

Let’s get this government to sit down. Let’s get that HCL going into the QI cards. And if you do it opens up automatically… what? We know Frank… it opens up an account for every citizen. No. It opens up a “SUITABLE ENVIRONMENT”

“The government announces that Iraq is out of the gray zone within the international classification of money laundering”

You know we’ve seen this before? Why are we seeing it again? (chuckle) It’s for a very good reason. You see…

“Indicators of economy resilience and stability in the monetary system”

Was the byproduct because of this right here:

“ The government announces that Iraq is out of the gray zone within the international classification of money laundering”

“Indicators of economy resilience and stability in the monetary system”

Wait a minute… we have stability? Yeah. We have security in the government? Yup. We have stability and we have security in the monetary system? Yup. Isn’t that exactly what Alak said at the beginning of last year? We need security and stability to lift the three zeros.

“Indicators of economic resilience and stability in the monetary system” Are right in front of your face family.

“TY PRESIDENT TRUMP”

Anyways, I could go on and keep on showing you some more things here that might be of interest, but, that’s good enough. What I want to do now instead, is take you, if I can find it, bear with me.. right there.

You see this article? It’s in our new thread for today. Walkingstick brings it out, brings it forward once again. We really really want you to understand this family, because of what we are going to tell you tonight.. in our opinion. Once again…

This is post #6

“Indicators of economic resilience and stability in the monetary system”

IN THE MONETARY SYSTEM!

When you flip it down to Post # 11

Militia Man put a very very good report in his opinion behind it. Because inside the report of the body of what I just read to you there’s of information. I guess we could say a lot of clues. For example:

“Most notably, US Sanctions imposed on Iran and Turkey to be accelerated and non-critical analysis of the reality of monetary stability in Iraq.” [Frank: now that you have the stability what about it?]… and the effects of the new shock expected on the Iraqi dinar. The sanctions..”

Good God Almighty.. yeah. The sanctions that were put on the Iraqi dinar. The program rate. What about it? Well.. they’re telling you family. They’re expecting the exchange rate of the Iraqi dinar to be effected because of the resilience and the stability of the economic system. What more do you want family? What more is truly needed to feed the non-ending hunger to know when. To know the date. To know everything precisely the way you want it. Even though it’s right in front of your face.

“ In addition to the Iraqi dinar during the recovery during the past 7 months, [Let me see 1,2,3,4,5,6,7, huh.. the first quarter of 2018!!!!!!!???? Yeah. What about it?] the deal with the wisdom and responsibility and the independence by the Central Bank will prevent the impact of international conditions and sanctions on neighboring countries”

They don’t have a deficit! Their budget is ready to go! Their economy is in high gear! Their monetary system is secure! (chuckling).

So, we strongly suggest that you read post #6, on page 1. And then follow it up with post # 11 that Militia Man put together, because Walkingstick told Militia Man “Well done”

Unfortunately, you’ll have to look at my ugly face again. Here we go. In my opinion family, because WE the United States of America are calling the shots. And because you now have the evidence that we sure are aren’t we. We have all those good articles don’t we? You feel confident that we’re calling the shots. Right? Okay good.

Now because we are calling the shots and it can even be proven now, even still, in my opinion, when I read these articles I am led family the wording of “next month.” I will reiterate what I just said, because I’ve learned that sometimes it takes more than once to convince someone of something.

Because we are calling the shots… because we the United States of America are telling them to seat the government. Are telling them when to pass laws. Bringing in all the military that rescue that they need. Because all of this is right in front of us. I am led strongly to believe the wording of NEXT MONTH. Now you may say “What in the world is he talking about of next month? If you are a member of our Forum, go to the Final Article thread and look at post # 100. Our Final Article #100.

Here it is. You see a nice picture of the Central Bank there. You see a nice little conversation, but … inside of the body, it says:

“The governor of the bank Ali al-Alaq said in a press statement: "The Central Bank to develop a plan to compensate the market small categories of local currency, as will be next month large quantities of huge ones," noting that "these quantities will meet the need of the local market for those categories of currency.”

Family, once again, and this is the third time that I’m going to say this. Because we are in charge. Because we are calling the shots. I am led to strongly believe the wording of Next Month. Now many of you were questioning, even though we made it very clear on our Monday call.. I guess it’s impossible to go back and make sure you heard it right. And it’s extremely easy just to post questions. What did Delta say? Was it printed in August or was it September?… they’re talking about October!

So, when I play a 4 minute recording here, you better listen to every word. You better salivate over every word that Delta is about to share with you in just a little bit. A “huge amount of local currency is going to be released in large amounts” family.

And for those of you who say, well, no they’re talking about the 250 and 500’s that’s what they’re talking about. Yeah. There are also other articles that tell you they are going to replace the torn and worn out 250’s and 500’s that are used in the local markets. In the same breath they’re going to introduce the new small notes and the coins. Next month… is what the article says. And the translation is very very plain and very clear. Very simple and to the point.

It was about 3 weeks ago that I told you, in my opinion, there is something on Donald Trump’s desk. And about a week after that, we told you ah gee-whiz, there was a delegation that was coming from Iraq to Washington DC. And on that Saturday, we thought they were going to release Article 2. Now on Monday’s Conference Call, we told you that there’s a lot of parts of Article 2, that are already out there. And one of them, is this one (Final Article #100) in my opinion.

There’s a lot of stuff on the table of President Trump. And we told you this. And then you see that a delegation is going to visit President Donald Trump, in one more day, tomorrow. What do you think is on that desk? What do you think is on that desk of Donald Trump?

Imo Probably about the PM, Abadi. How’s the government going.

Imo Issues about Iran. Are they cooperating with you? Yes.. yes they are. They’re not messing at the borders anymore. No they’re not. They’re not stealing anymore? No they can’t.

Imo Maybe on Donald Trump’s table there is information about Maliki.

Imo, on Donald Trump’s desk is something about the government of Iraq itself forming with the largest block.

Imo, on Donald Trump’s desk is information about the monetary reform of their country. And the reason why is because it’s on our desk. It’s on your desk. And very easily explained.

Rouhani from Iran is going to be going to the UN. We want you to pay close attention to this. It should be happening in a few days as a matter of fact. It actually says that Trump plans to take aim at Iran at the UN session.

Well he’s actually going to attack Rouhani. Donald Trump is not going to pull any punches. But first, imo he’s going to meet maybe tomorrow, maybe with some people from Iraq. And on that table are some important subjects, and I gave you some for you to consider.

Will they talk about the budget? No. Why? Because the price of oil is going crazy. Because there is no deficit. Because their gold and assets are being returned. Because they’ve already announce they’re going to lift the 3 zeros from the exchange rate. They did? Yeah.

You see the article again that says that next month they’re going to do that? What is it that they are going to do? “The Governor of the Central Bank said: The banks plans are to modernize the currency in circulation and the deletion of the zeros.” Say that again.

(repeated). That’s what they’re going to do family. They are going to modernize the 250’s and 500’s that are worn and torn and at the same breath, they will lift the 3 zeros from the exchange rate, because they’ve lifted as much of the 3 zeros from the streets that they could, physically.

And they will introduce, along with the 250 and 500’s to modernize, small notes. And coins. There will be 4 different types of coins: There will be a 1, a 5, a 10, a 20, a 100. And don’t forget we’re going to replace the 250’s and the 500’s and when you lift the 3 zeros off the exchange rate. You see that’s what you need. The small notes. And no more than the 250 and the 500.

The math does not work if you lift the 3 zeros from the exchange rate, with any higher denomination. Now that I’ve bored you and I see that you are talking to each other and x’s and o’s to each other. I’m done. I hope that you’ve enjoyed this conference call. I hope you were able to understand what I was trying to tell you.

Now, I’m going to play you a recording. And in this recording, ooohhh buddy, is some very powerful information. I think that you should be very very attentive and pay close attention to what it is about to say to you. Please enjoy.

Telephone Recording with Delta:

DELTA
Hey Frankie, Frankie! How ya doing buddy? Actually, I’m calling right now just to give you my points on that article, actually, a very important point, about the Central Bank of Iraq introducing huge quantity of small groups. There’s a lot of confusing and a lot of people having so many questions about that article.

#1: We do believe that this article actually, (???) about Sadat (??) (inaudible sorry), the last month in August. Because another article came up, if you’ll remember, one of the Board of Directors was in August too. But the article came up late, which is in September, so a lot of people were confused. And so based on what we have right now, we do believe that, that was done in August, but either way, it’s going to happen in this month, or even if they take it to October, it’s not a problem.

But, here’s the most important question a lot of people are asking: Are the small notes the 250 to 500? We do believe no. I don’t believe that’s the case because, where’s the logic behind them printing AGAIN the 250, 500? I did bring this to you, and to the family’s attention that in 2016, I believe, they did reprint 250 and the 500 and they did reject all this currency at the Rashid Bank and the Private Bank.

In that case, why they making such a big deal this time? They’ve never had a big deal like this one, because I really do believe that the small group, they recently printed by the way, and a lot of them, because, remember, they did delete about 3, 4, 5 trillion dinars, and most of them are 3 zero notes, and this is how they are going to delete the zeros by introducing those.

We do believe this are the small groups, not the 250, and 500, and 5000. We do believe that they’re going to be the 50, the 100, the 200, that they did talk about. And it you go to the Final Article 75, which I added that to the family, Iraq is exactly telling us what they are going to do. That they have a plan to modernize the existing currency, the ones that they’ve got right now, and delete the zeros. So this is one event.

So they cannot introduce the lower denominations, unless the rate has to change. We do believe this is two events in one day. They might even show us a rate before they introduce all those lower denominations. And this is how the phase-out of the the 3 zeros will start. People will go to the shop or the bank, you give your 25,000 or 10,000 dinars, and they’ll get lower denominations, but those lower denominations, they’re going to have more value. And of course those 3 zero notes are gonna have more value, because they’re going to reinstate their currency.

I mean just think about it, this is a big deal. If this isn't the moment that the Central Bank told us, then why all this hype? Why all this advertisement for it? So this is what they’re talking about.

# 2 is, why would they print a lot of small group with no value? Even if you come up with new 250 and 500 we all know that the 1000 dinar is only worth 85 to 88-cents. So you got 40-cents on the 500, and probably 20-cents to 22-cents on the 250. But again, they did print them before. We’re really expecting them now, because now they’re overdue. The reinstatement of the Iraqi dinar is overdue and remember too, Iran did something about 2 weeks ago, they’re waiting on the Iraqi side to give them the prize of the Iraqi dinar, because people come in from the holy place to go basically, to they’re going to find out that they have received Article #2.

Thank you for joining us tonight. This call……. Is the one that you have been waiting for, for a long time. I’m not even sure that you understood it. I pray that you did.

Wed. KTFA CC Notes w/ Frank26, DELTA by Sunkissed 9/12/18

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Cinderella1906 » September 13th, 2018

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Wed. Night CC (follow-up from Monday, unfinished) September 12, 2018

(Frank26) We now walk into part 2 of our Monday Conference Call.Well it’s Part 2 of our Monday Conference Call. I thought we were running very, very late and I decided to stop at 10:15 which was already late as it was, and I promised I would give you more of it tonight.

What we’re going to do is, probably I say 30 no more than 40 minutes. What I was going to do, I guess what I am going to do, is turn this camera over so that you can see this computer that I have on my Left side.

And what we’re going to do is very quickly, walk over just a few thoughts. A few articles. And then I’ll bring you back and I’ll tell you just a few interesting things, and then were going to play a 4 minute recording with Delta. And that will be our Conference Call for tonight.

So let’s get ready! Turn this Laptop around and Tink if you could please have it up and let me know if you think it’s centered well or not.

Let me go over here to my word document. Ca you all see this okay?

**Post # 95 on computer screen (From Final Article thread)

Ladies and Gentlemen, we have what we call a Final Article thread. I’ve purposely come back here to what we are calling Final Article # 95. #95 is interesting. Cuz there’s a conversation where Abadi is talking to the Citizens. He’s talking to the government. He’s talking to a bunch of reporters. And in this long conversations that you see, there’s a part where you see (posted in RED):

“We welcome the existence of any cooperation between us and neighboring countries in the field of local currencies”

Now what was it that we shared with you? BTW Everything in this CC is in my opinion and I hope that I bring it to you in dignity.

Now…“We welcome the existence of any cooperation between us and neighboring countries in the field of local currencies” What was it we said to you last week on our Conference Call? Not this Monday.. but a week ago?

We told you that in our opinion, the lower denoms with a Specimen mark on them are leaving the borders of Iraq. What did we tell you this PAST Monday? On our LAST Conference Call? That in our opinion, we see the physical lower denom, marked Specimen, from the East to the West in many banks why is it being sent to banks Frank?

Because this is the currency that will be used in buying and selling and trading on a Global scale. The small notes are going to stay INSIDE the country, because there will be a rate change; along with the coins. And those belong to the citizens. They do not belong to the Global Market.

And here you can as far back as post # 95.. because we are up to post 100 now in the Final Articles thread. Just a few weeks ago. Look what Abadi says. Exactly what we told you the dinar, that is marked Specimen, is leaving Iraq. And Abadi is telling all of these neighboring countries, we’re cool with your currency, if you’re cool with ours. Of course we are. We know what you are doing. Yes you do.

The article goes on. Abadi says the following:

“I will not insist on a specific site and insist to serve the country. We welcome the existence of any cooperation between us and neighboring countries in the field of local currencies, and we do not want global domination that controls the economies of countries"

Now what does that mean? Yes we’re going to swap. And yes, we’re sending our currency out to you. And yes, we’re going through a reinstatement of our currency. You want our currency don’t you? Yes we do. Good! And accept it. We did. And listen, we promise we don’t want “global domination that controls the economies of countries.”

In other words: We can send you our currency. We can send you our currency. It’s about to be globally recognized. It’s about to enter Article 8. We’re going to introduce our lower denominations too. We’re not going to have just one controlling currency anymore, like the American dollar. No more. You see, that’s not how it’s going to work anymore. WOWW.

I mean it’s right here (pointing to the quote above). This is a simple. This is as obvious as it gets.

Now the next one is Final Article # 96:

And it also talks about the currency of Iraq, that is being backed by how much? What’s that say? 89 tonnes of gold in their reserves! Wow! No wonder you can talk the way you’re talking! No wonder you’re proud of your currency to leave the borders. No wonder you’re using your currency, no one elses. Are these not the rules of and demands and obligations from the IMF? For Article 8? Yes they are. Okay. That’s good.

Family.. this is powerful, what I’m trying to show you tonight. Please enjoy. So, as he’s talking that yeah, we can back it up and we’re going to be sending it out and going to use only our currency. Lookie here. What’s that say right there? (pointing to a specific paragraph):

“… replace our local currency (dinar) in the US currency (dollar)”

Okay. Thank you very much. What about it. Well the purpose is that uh, and we want uh… and what does it say?:

“And the deletion of the three zeros of the Iraqi currency, he replied Dagher that ‘this issue purely technical (Frank interjected: yeah we can do it at the flip of a switch) and has nothing to do with the rise or fall of the prices (Frank interjected Of course they can’t see it), and we are in the form of coins in our future projects although it is high cost (Frank: of course it cost to mint coins) longer in circulation. (Frank: Of course it’s going to last longer than the old 250 and 500 that you are trying to replace) The Central Bank will inject the paper currency category 250 and 500 dinars to the local market in quantities that eliminate the existing health to be within the reach of the citizens to trade.”

Okay. Okay. Okay. So post #95 and #96 are telling you what they are doing family. There’s no doubt about it.

Iran! Iran! Iran! The most troubled… the reason why we still wait (along with Obama), for the reinstatement of the Iraqi dinar… Iran! Is cooperating! Look at that title right there!

Iran cancels the currency of the dollar during its dealings with Iraq and the exchange of these currencies. (02/09/2018)

Yes! Because you were told to weren’t you Iran! Uh… yeah I guess so. (chuckling)

Abadi. What’s he stressing now? Well, ya know, we got the largest bloc. It’s resolved. yeah. We’re all set. Well you were a government. You are a government. And you will be a government and nothing changed. Nothing has changed. Yes you built the largest bloc and the government is set. What does that mean? Well, it means that the HCL is now ready to open accounts for every citizen in Iraq. Because this government is ready to approve it. Is ready to pass the HCL.

Now there are many other little things, but notice that, Iraq.. they have a stable government now.

“Abadi calls on the new parliament to cooperate with the next government to complete the priority laws”

“Abadi: I call the new parliament to cooperate with the next government serving the citizens.”

“Abadi: We have received Iraq in a state of loss it a strong unified.”

The government again, look at this stable, security, the removal of terrorism. Front page news. So this says Abadi, the next government will receive a stable state, from both the political and the security aspects. Wow.. if I didn’t know any better, it would seem like you’re trying to tell us something. You’re preparing something for the month of September aren’t you?

All those that tried to remove Abadi? Sorry. Sorry. We told you that we are in charge. We told you that the United States of America is making all the calls.

“Iraqis were surprised by the size of the US involvement forming the government”

Well.. surprise! Surprise! Surprise! Gomer. We told ya. Look at that (pointing to the article)

“America is trying to form its largest bloc or go to the rescue government”

No! They’re not going to do no rescue government! No! They’re not going to amend their constitution!

Meanwhile, the price of war is going ridiculous. It’s called “timing” family. It’s called beautiful timing! Don’t miss all these little stepping stones. Where…

"EVERYTHING [is] RETURNING [back to Iraq]”

Frank26: “ THE KEY TO [this whole thing is like we told you] THE HCL… [like we told you on Monday]”

Let’s get this government to sit down. Let’s get that HCL going into the QI cards. And if you do it opens up automatically… what? We know Frank… it opens up an account for every citizen. No. It opens up a “SUITABLE ENVIRONMENT”

“The government announces that Iraq is out of the gray zone within the international classification of money laundering”

You know we’ve seen this before? Why are we seeing it again? (chuckle) It’s for a very good reason. You see… “Indicators of economy resilience and stability in the monetary system” Was the byproduct because of this right here:“ The government announces that Iraq is out of the gray zone within the international classification of money laundering”

​“Indicators of economy resilience and stability in the monetary system”

Wait a minute… we have stability? Yeah. We have security in the government? Yup. We have stability and we have security in the monetary system? Yup. Isn’t that exactly what Alak said at the beginning of last year? We need security and stability to lift the three zeros.

“Indicators of economic resilience and stability in the monetary system” Are right in front of your face family.

“TY PRESIDENT TRUMP”

Anyways, I could go on and keep on showing you some more things here that might be of interest, but, that’s good enough. What I want to do now instead, is take you, if I can find it, bear with me.. right there.

You see this article? It’s in our new thread for today. Walkingstick brings it out, brings it forward once again. We really really want you to understand this family, because of what we are going to tell you tonight.. in our opinion. Once again…

This is post #6 “Indicators of economic resilience and stability in the monetary system”

Link to Full Article

IN THE MONETARY SYSTEM !!!

When you flip it down to Post # 11

Militia Man put a very very good report in his opinion behind it. Because inside the report of the body of what I just read to you there’s of information. I guess we could say a lot of clues. For example:

“Most notably, US Sanctions imposed on Iran and Turkey to be accelerated and non-critical analysis of the reality of monetary stability in Iraq.” [Frank: now that you have the stability what about it?]… and the effects of the new shock expected on the Iraqi dinar .... The sanctions"

Good God Almighty.. yeah. The sanctions that were put on the Iraqi dinar. The program rate. What about it? Well.. they’re telling you family.

They’re expecting the exchange rate of the Iraqi dinar to be effected because of the resilience and the stability of the economic system.

What more do you want family? What more is truly needed to feed the non-ending hunger to know when. To know the date. To know everything precisely the way you want it. Even though it’s right in front of your face.

“ In addition to the Iraqi dinar during the recovery during the past 7 months, [Let me see 1,2,3,4,5,6,7, huh.. the first quarter of 2018!!!!!!!???? Yeah. What about it?] the deal with the wisdom and responsibility and the independence by the Central Bank will prevent the impact of international conditions and sanctions on neighboring countries”

​They don’t have a deficit! Their budget is ready to go! Their economy is in high gear! Their monetary system is secure! (chuckling).

So, we strongly suggest that you read post #6, on page 1. And then follow it up with post # 11 that Militia Man put together, because Walkingstick told Militia Man “Well done”

Unfortunately, you’ll have to look at my ugly face again. Here we go. In my opinion family, because WE the United States of America are calling the shots. And because you now have the evidence that we sure are aren’t we. We have all those good articles don’t we? You feel confident that we’re calling the shots. Right? Okay good.

Now because we are calling the shots and it can even be proven now, even still, in my opinion, when I read these articles I am led family the wording of “next month.” I will reiterate what I just said, because I’ve learned that sometimes it takes more than once to convince someone of something.

Because we are calling the shots… because we the United States of America are telling them to seat the government. Are telling them when to pass laws. Bringing in all the military that rescue that they need. Because all of this is right in front of us. I am led strongly to believe the wording of NEXT MONTH. Now you may say “What in the world is he talking about of next month? If you are a member of our Forum, go to the Final Article thread and look at post # 100. Our Final Article #100.

Here it is. You see a nice picture of the Central Bank there. You see a nice little conversation, but … inside of the body, it says “The governor of the bank Ali al-Alaq said in a press statement: "The Central Bank to develop a plan to compensate the market small categories of local currency, as will be next month large quantities of huge ones," noting that "these quantities will meet the need of the local market for those categories of currency.”

Family, once again, and this is the third time that I’m going to say this. Because we are in charge. Because we are calling the shots. I am led to strongly believe the wording of Next Month. Now many of you were questioning, even though we made it very clear on our Monday call..

I guess it’s impossible to go back and make sure you heard it right. And it’s extremely easy just to post questions. What did Delta say? Was it printed in August or was it September?… they’re talking about October!

So, when I play a 4 minute recording here, you better listen to every word. You better salivate over every word that Delta is about to share with you in just a little bit. A “huge amount of local currency is going to be released in large amounts” family.

And for those of you who say, well, no they’re talking about the 250 and 500’s that’s what they’re talking about. Yeah. There are also other articles that tell you they are going to replace the torn and worn out 250’s and 500’s that are used in the local markets. In the same breath they’re going to introduce the new small notes and the coins. Next month… is what the article says. And the translation is very very plain and very clear. Very simple and to the point.

It was about 3 weeks ago that I told you, in my opinion, there is something on Donald Trump’s desk. And about a week after that, we told you ah gee-whiz, there was a delegation that was coming from Iraq to Washington DC. And on that Saturday, we thought they were going to release Article 2. Now on Monday’s Conference Call, we told you that there’s a lot of parts of Article 2, that are already out there. And one of them, is this one (Final Article #100) in my opinion.

There’s a lot of stuff on the table of President Trump. And we told you this. And then you see that a delegation is going to visit President Donald Trump, in one more day, tomorrow. What do you think is on that desk? What do you think is on that desk of Donald Trump?

Imo Probably about the PM, Abadi. How’s the government going.

Imo Issues about Iran. Are they cooperating with you? Yes.. yes they are. They’re not messing at the borders anymore. No they’re not. They’re not stealing anymore? No they can’t.

Imo Maybe on Donald Trump’s table there is information about Maliki.

Imo, on Donald Trump’s desk is something about the government of Iraq itself forming with the largest block.

Imo, on Donald Trump’s desk is information about the monetary reform of their country. And the reason why is because it’s on our desk. It’s on your desk. And very easily explained.

Rouhani from Iran is going to be going to the UN. We want you to pay close attention to this. It should be happening in a few days as a matter of fact. It actually says that Trump plans to take aim at Iran at the UN session. Well he’s actually going to attack Rouhani. Donald Trump is not going to pull any punches. But first, imo he’s going to meet maybe tomorrow, maybe with some people from Iraq. And on that table are some important subjects, and I gave you some for you to consider.

Will they talk about the budget? No. Why? Because the price of oil is going crazy. Because there is no deficit. Because their gold and assets are being returned. Because they’ve already announce they’re going to lift the 3 zeros from the exchange rate. They did? Yeah.

You see the article again that says that next month they’re going to do that? What is it that they are going to do?

“The Governor of the Central Bank said: The banks plans are to modernize the currency in circulation and the deletion of the zeros.”

Say that again. (repeated). That’s what they’re going to do family. They are going to modernize the 250’s and 500’s that are worn and torn and at the same breath, they will lift the 3 zeros from the exchange rate, because they’ve lifted as much of the 3 zeros from the streets that they could, physically.

And they will introduce, along with the 250 and 500’s to modernize, small notes. And coins. There will be 4 different types of coins: There will be a 1, a 5, a 10, a 20, a 100. And don’t forget we’re going to replace the 250’s and the 500’s and when you lift the 3 zeros off the exchange rate. You see that’s what you need. The small notes. And no more than the 250 and the 500.

The math does not work if you lift the 3 zeros from the exchange rate, with any higher denomination. Now that I’ve bored you and I see that you are talking to each other and x’s and o’s to each other. I’m done. I hope that you’ve enjoyed this conference call. I hope you were able to understand what I was trying to tell you.

Now, I’m going to play you a recording. And in this recording, ooohhh buddy, is some very powerful information. I think that you should be very very attentive and pay close attention to what it is about to say to you. Please enjoy.

Telephone Recording with Delta:

DELTA

Hey Frankie, Frankie! How ya doing buddy? Actually, I’m calling right now just to give you my points on that article, actually, a very important point, about the Central Bank of Iraq introducing huge quantity of small groups. There’s a lot of confusing and a lot of people having so many questions about that article.

#1: We do believe that this article actually, (???) about Sadat (??) (inaudible sorry), the last month in August. Because another article came up, if you’ll remember, one of the Board of Directors was in August too. But the article came up late, which is in September, so a lot of people were confused. And so based on what we have right now, we do believe that, that was done in August, but either way, it’s going to happen in this month, or even if they take it to October, it’s not a problem.

But, here’s the most important question a lot of people are asking: Are the small notes the 250 to 500? We do believe no. I don’t believe that’s the case because, where’s the logic behind them printing AGAIN the 250, 500? I did bring this to you, and to the family’s attention that in 2016, I believe, they did reprint 250 and the 500 and they did reject all this currency at the Rashid Bank and the Private Bank.

In that case, why they making such a big deal this time? They’ve never had a big deal like this one, because I really do believe that the small group, they recently printed by the way, and a lot of them, because, remember, they did delete about 3, 4, 5 trillion dinars, and most of them are 3 zero notes, and this is how they are going to delete the zeros by introducing those.

We do believe this are the small groups, not the 250, and 500, and 5000. We do believe that they’re going to be the 50, the 100, the 200, that they did talk about. And it you go to the Final Article 75, which I added that to the family, Iraq is exactly telling us what they are going to do. That they have a plan to modernize the existing currency, the ones that they’ve got right now, and delete the zeros. So this is one event.

So they cannot introduce the lower denominations, unless the rate has to change. We do believe this is two events in one day. They might even show us a rate before they introduce all those lower denominations.

And this is how the phase-out of the the 3 zeros will start. People will go to the shop or the bank, you give your 25,000 or 10,000 dinars, and they’ll get lower denominations, but those lower denominations, they’re going to have more value. And of course those 3 zero notes are gonna have more value, because they’re going to reinstate their currency.

I mean just think about it, this is a big deal. If this isn't the moment that the Central Bank told us, then why all this hype? Why all this advertisement for it? So this is what they’re talking about.

# 2 is, why would they print a lot of small group with no value? Even if you come up with new 250 and 500 we all know that the 1000 dinar is only worth 85 to 88-cents. So you got 40-cents on the 500, and probably 20-cents to 22-cents on the 250. But again, they did print them before.

We’re really expecting them now, because now they’re overdue. The reinstatement of the Iraqi dinar is overdue and remember too, Iran did something about 2 weeks ago, they’re waiting on the Iraqi side to give them the prize of the Iraqi dinar, because people come in from the holy place to go basically, to they’re going to find out that they have received Article #2.

Thank you for joining us tonight. This call……. Is the one that you have been waiting for, for a long time. I’m not even sure that you understood it. I pray that you did.

Yosef - "Togatherness" - GCR/RV Activity 8/16/17

"Togatherness"

A fundamental success factor of any sports franchise is the four-syllable fun word dubbed "togatherness​".
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The word conveys several messages in it various definitions, all of which speak to building overall team spirit.

"Togatherness" is an adverb indicating that people are physically gathering with common purpose​.

Other meanings include being and interacting with one another, by joint effort, becoming in contact, integrated coherent structure.

Simply put, "togetherness" means setting and unifying a mission to gather or attract people for a movement.

Think about it, a sports team may have any number of persons associated in their work or activity, but a successful and efficient team always demands that everyone be in harmony with the larger agenda of winning a championship.

Whereas the prime requirement of a productive philanthropic team is fostering a sense of family to gather enough service motivated Human Angels to accomplish a common purpose or mission for a specific humanitarian agenda.

By gathering in small groups or larger​ teams, we strengthen our individual and collective desire to safely co-exist in numbers as well as elevate our collaborative skills which will ultimately solve the most difficult problems facing humanity.

In nature, for instance, such collaboration is not always obvious (e.g., how the eagles need mountains to plant their nests and bees need the nectar of plants to make honey)... but in the something like the sporting or a philanthropic community, all team members function in a unique yet collaborative ecosystem.

One cannot exist therefore without another, and that shared truth is what protects and strengthens the tribe over generations.

When professional athletes gather to accomplish a common mission (win a championship), they do so with the expectation of payment… hence a bottom up approach.

However, when a group of philanthropists gather, each is compelled ​as a volunteer​ of their skills due to the greater good cause in service of a common objective.

That's a top down way of thinking.

Ex-athletes will tell you they cannot simulate this team "togatherness" in regular life, the corporate world or even in bottom up volunteer communities because money is always the key motivator--not the pure service of others.

But there are no ex-philantropists… once you join this team, you never go back to anything else because you understand lives are at stake.

And because we are an infinitely affluent top down philanthropic community, money is of no concern… only mission.

So how must we as new global top down philanthropists adapt just as professional athletes must adjust as the rules and conditions of the game change overnight?

As a philanthropic leader, you must constantly​ be ​s​eeking innovative ways to share your mission, build confidence, train ​a mercy ​staff, plan celebrations and apply new delivery techniques.

Committing to developing your own team's sense of "togetherness" is critical to building a successful philanthropy, just as it would be a successful sports team.

Thus, to use proven methods of how and why successful sports teams and franchises build for success year after year is worth your time.

Below are 7 activities which help said sports teams and franchises foster such "togatherness." It's wise we learn from ​sport's successes and failures, and apply all meaningful lessons to ​your own philanthropic team, mission or in some cases ministry.

#1 - Traveling Togather

Sports teams are required to travel to away venues to compete. In such times, the teams go togather in a coach or an airplane.

They meet at a single location and travel togather. It doesn’t matter if you’re a big star or a small star.

Everybody gets on the same bus!

This removes emotional fences that usual separate teams, as only a united philanthropic team can earn consistent victories in their respective causes.

Philanthropies need to travel frequently together on an equal emotional, physical and mental journey.

#2 - Rooming Togather

Team spirit is strengthened as individuals become personally and physically exposed to each other when traveling and sharing the same space.

Their vulnerabilities and physiques are known to each other which translate to covering for one another in the field of play especially if some are playing with injuries.

Although some philanthropies attempt to simulate rooming togather with open offices, it still does not have the same intimacy as sports players sharing hotel rooms.

#3 - Sharing Victory Togather

A point earned, a touchdown, a home run, a goal scored, a ball placed in the basketball net are all points of victory which members of the team share.

Which player earns the point matters less to the team members because victory and its benefits are shared experiences.

This might explain the joint celebration with a team mate who does the final act.

Philanthropies should learn how to share and reward victory across the board, more frequently and innovatively.

This will help eliminate the "ME" mentality and drive home the principal that "WE" rise and fall togather as a team.

#4 - Training Togather

No matter how good a player is, he or she cannot be isolated from the rest of the team while training.

Some players might need extra exercises to focus on particular objectives, but these will mostly be done in the presence of other players.

Philanthropic teams may not have the advantage of training togather, but they can engineer activities which give the semblance of training in a group be it web seminars, video conferring or group telephone/internet calls like this one.

Training courses, retreats, away-days, productive meetings and similar assemblies can be valuable tools for philanthropies that desire to replicate the closeness of successful sports teams.

#5 - Dressing Togather

Wearing uniforms is a non-negotiable part of being in sports teams. Even top players are never so good that they will be excluded from wearing team jerseys.

Jerseys are always the same colour for each person even though numbers and names may provide identification.

Dressing in similar fashions creates a sense of sameness which tears off many layers of human ego and infirm erodes bogus emotional barriers that keep man from helping man.

In the curate world they call this "swag," but in top down philanthropic world wearing similar shirts, hats, buttons or even using a common writing instrument reinforces to all that we're all on the same mission to serve.

#6 - Celebrating Togather

All sports teams celebrate togather.

They never exclude any member of the team from celebrations, even those that are not directly involved in games are invited to participate.

Celebrations reinforce performance as well as desired behaviour. Lack of celebration delivers the impression that all events are of equal significance.

Celebration doesn’t have to be ‘big bang," in fact most sports teams understand that celebration is not only about absolute victories but incremental progress or many small victories accumulated.

#7 - Losing Togather

Even the best sports teams lose games they are expected to win.

Sports people realise that although losing is painful, it does not bring an end to the team. Instead, it serves as a learning tool.

While emotions may run high and tears may drop from sporting eyes, the back pats and embraces convey messages of hope for future victories.

As in sports, philanthropic reality is that winning is not an everyday affair.

There will be down times, heartbreaking defeats, but they should be shared similarly to the victories.

Summary

These lessons from sports teams are more than just a list for top down philanthropers--they are historical facts of what motivates human beings to unite successfully for the achievement of a common cause.

They are actionable ideas which all greater good philanthropies can adapt to their internal operating mechanisms and culture.

The closer philanthropies mirror the traits of successful sports franchises, the more collaborative and productive their own Human Angels will become... and more importantly... the greater number of people in dire need that will be mercifully served.

Lord let's us dare to heal the soul of the world ... one soul at a time!

God is with us.

Poppy3 Returns to DinarLand??? 6/24/17

This reappearance of Poppy is rather curious.  Just some thoughts in no particular order:


#1  Is this really Poppy or just an imposter using his name?


#2  Since the Dinar Updates closed their chatroom, Dinar Recaps has been hurting for content.


#3  Dinar Recaps has replaced Dinar Updates chat with chat from Truth Call (IQD Calls).


#4  Out of the blue, Poppy shows up in the Truth Call chatroom and says he was invited. 



#5  Who "invited" Poppy?  Dinar Recaps????



#6  DebTarHeelGirl appeared last week to warn people about private exchange groups.


#7  Seems like when Dinarland finally seems to by fading away and all that's left are new age loons, mysteriously these old names show up.  Why?


It was almost a year ago when Poppy said his goodbyes.  What or who caused him to change his mind?

Poppy3 says(1:05 PM):DEAR RICH FRIENDS , FOR YEARS NOW I HAVE LOOKED FORWARD TO A TRUE CELEBRATION POST RV WITH GREAT TOP ENTERTAINERS AND GREAT FOOD WITH A MORTGAGE BURNING BOND FIRE ON SATURDAY EVENING.



A CELEBRATION OF LOVE AND REJOICING FOR US ALL. EARLY LAST WEEK A REPORT ON NASHVILLE LOCAL TV IT WAS REPORTED THAT ISIS HAD A KILL LIST FOR THE NASHVILLE AREA OF 50 PLUS CITIZENS.



 ON MONDAY A WEEK AGO I WAS CONTACTED BY PHONE AND INFORMED I WOULD BE CONTACTED IN PERSON THE NEXT WEEK AND IN FACT MET WITH THEM YESTERDAY.

WAS INFORMED HOW TO FUNCTION IN CAUTION FOR ME AND THE FAMILY. PRECAUTIONS TO TAKE.

I WAS TOLD TO ABSOLUTELY NOT HAVE A GATHERING OF DINAR INVESTORS .

I WAS ALSO TOLD THEY MAY NEVER ACT ON THE LIST BUT NO REASON TO INVITE THEM.

 THERE WAS MUCH MORE DISCUSSED BUT I WILL NOT BE DISCUSSING IT ANYWHERE.

MY FAMILY HAS BEEN MADE AWARE AND THATS AS FAR AS I AM GOING .

FOR THESE REASONS AND SOME OTHERS I WILL NOT POST IN CHAT ANYMORE OTHER THAN ANNOUNCING PRAYER RIDE PRAYER REQUEST. I PRAY ALL REMAIN SAFE AND ALL RECIEVE WHAT GOD HAS LAID UP FOR EACH OF YOU . IN ORDER TO RECIEVE YOU MUST REMAIN ELIGIBLE . THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS. GOD BLESS POPPY3



Poppy3 says(1:08 PM): IF YOU DON'T THINK WE ARE AND HAVE NOT BEEN MONITORED, THESE 2 GUYS ACTUALLY WALKED UP TO ME IN LOWES TO ENTERVIEW ME OUT OF THE CLEAR BLUE.



THEY SAID TO SHOW ME I COULD BE CONFRONTED ANYWHERE ANYTIME. BE ALERT MY FRIENDS. POPPY3


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"15 Reasons USN Stories Are Great News!" - One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. aka Swervy McGee

15 Reasons USN Stories Are GREAT NEWS!



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 I have been seeing some USN stories lately and it is a CLEAR sign to me that EVERYTHING we want is right on schedule. The USN is the new Gold Backed currency of the Republic. Here is the latest news on the USN:

"Bank intel, USN" by Geoffrey - 2.25.17

It is so interesting that we are looking for clues all over the place to verify that this top secret World Change over is both REAL and immanent, and yet one single item actually PROVES EVERYTHING! Yes, as the title of this post reveals, it is the USN that tells the whole story and is all the proof we need, that we are actually on track to everything we have been told and promised. Here is how...

#1) USN Means Gold Backed

The fact that the USN has been acknowledged by Banking personnel as well as many others, is PROOF that the New Gold Backed Money is really coming.

#2) Gold Backed Means The World

The fact that there really is new USA Gold Backed Money coming means that all the other countries of the World are going Gold Backed as well since there is no way that we would be the only ones changing.

#3) The World Going Gold Backed Means Equality

If all the countries of the World are Going Gold Backed as well, it only works if their currency values are adjusted to be on par with each other.

#4) World Currencies On Par With Each Other

Having all the World's currencies being adjusted to be on par with each other means that those countries who's currency values are greatly undervalued compared to everyone else are going to be adjusted up, WAY UP, to be on par with the other countries. That MEANS THE GCR IS REAL.

#5) If The GCR is REAL

If the GCR is Real, then anyone who happens to be holding currencies that are greatly undervalued, such as the first basket currencies, will realize a HUGE increase in value when said adjustment happens.

#6) No Double Dipping

Because there is an all go, or none go and a deliberate plan to prevent Double dipping, by reinvesting money from one currency revaluation on the next currency revaluation, they will all go at once. Since all the currencies will go at once, that means that THEY WILL ALL GO, and none of them will be left behind.

#7) Stories of The USN Means Treasury Money

Stories of the USN MEANS that it is our new Treasury that is issuing the money. This means that not only is the Fed Dead, but that the REPUBLIC is Alive!

#8) The Republic Alive Means NESARA

The fact that the Republic is alive and in the process of showing itself, means that NESARA, the new governmental structures are also in the Process as well, since the Republic is based on the new NESARA Principles.

#9) NESARA Means GESARA

The fact that NESARA is coming into action here in the Republic of the United States, means that soon the World will be changing over to GESARA, which is the global version of this same governmental structure and principles.

#10) GESARA Means World Peace

Since GESARA is Coming in to Power all over the World, that means that the World will be at peace from now on and War will no longer be permitted or tolerated by any country in the World.

#11) GESARA & World Peace

GESARA and World Peace also signals multiple trusts that will start paying out Trillions of dollars in many different forms to all the people of the World. These include huge trusts such as the St. Germaine Trust, The Lee Wanta Trust, and many others.

#12) NESARA & GESARA Means New Technologies Released

Another important aspect of the NESARA & GESARA implementation is the release of hidden technologies and health remedies that have been held back by the Cabal. This leads to such things as immediate cures for most medical problems and introduction of free energy devices and anti gravity craft to name a few.

#13) NESARA Means Top Level Arrests & Trials Begin

Another important aspect of the NESARA implementation is the immediate arrests of top Cabal operatives, resignation of all current political positions, and new elections for President and other positions. It also means the resignation from the BAR of all attorneys' and retraining them in Constitutional law.

#14) Bank Awareness Of The USN Means Immanent GCR

The fact that Bank employees are aware of, and acknowledge the USN, means that they have been trained on it, and will be available soon. Additionally, many claim it is in their vaults now and will be released soon.

#15) USN Availability Means CGR

There is no way that the GOLD Backed USN can be distributed, unless the GCR has already happened. If the USN is about to be available, that means the GCR is about to happen.


The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that while USN reports and stories seem to be of little value, they actually PROVE EVERYTHING IS TRUE AND ABOUT TO HAPPEN. The USN availability means World Gold Back GCR, NESARA/GESARA, World Peace, New Technologies and Health remedies, High Level Cabal Arrests and Trials, New Elections, and the Release of countless Trust to the people of the World. In short, when you have Proof of the USN, you have proof of EVERYTHING!

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams

Signed: One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. aka Swervy McGee
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"Question: Abandon Groups? YES!" - One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. 5/27/17

Question: Abandon Groups? YES!

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"Emergency Question for OWK"

Entry Submitted Anonymously at 12:35 AM EDT on May 27, 2017

Many thanks for all you do.

Question: we are members of a sub group of one of the better known groups. We still have our currency, though we are on this group's spread sheet. We are now being told that if we don't exchange with this group, we will not be allowed to exchange at all. Will we be shut out of exchanging if we choose not to exchange with this group?

Many thanks

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Answer:

The first thing I will say is "LUCKY YOU that you still have your currencies!" Here is a post I wrote when a Cabal Minion was trying to promote Groups:

"To: Witch Doctor, Re: Groups" - One Who Knows - 2.16.17

I don't care if they have you on their sheet, or whatever, so what! Having the currency in your hand makes you the owner and there is nothing they can do about it. Simply send them a note that says you have changed your mind!

Points To Consider:

#1) Can the Group get a Higher Rate than you? NO!

You can ask for the highest "Privately Negotiated Rates" there are as an individual. Most groups will exchange at VERY LOW RATES & charge you a fee as well.

#2) Will you get paid faster in a Group? NO!

When you exchange as an individual, you will walk out the door Liquid, cash in hand. The Group on the other hand, will have to arrange a pay master who will first get the money and will at some future date arrange to send it to you.

#3) Will The Group do this for Free? NO!

They will charge you from the exchange amount in fees, and whatever else they add on to take part of your money. That is the reason they are threatening you because they want to get part of your money if you are lucky, or get all of your money if you are not lucky.

#4) Can the Group threaten you to send them your currency? NO!

If you still have it in your hand, it is yours to exchange and there is nothing they can do about it. I have another case just like yours that I am following up on and the NPTB are going to take them down after the exchange. Frankly, please send your information and the group details on your case, to Patrick to forward to me and they will be "Dealt" with!

#5) If you have money in a group already, and buy more yourself, can they threaten you to send the rest you have to them to exchange? NO!

This is the EXACT situation I referred to above. The guy had already sent money to a group to buy-in on Zim, but now they want the other currencies he bought himself. THEY CAN NOT DO THAT. They made the same threat that he could not exchange twice, but that is a LIE. If you are in a group already, the group can exchange, as a group, and you can still exchange as an individual! Again, if you have a group that is threatening you, send the information to Patrick to get to me and I will get it dealt with. THIS IS A CRIME OF HUGE PROPORTIONS.

#6) If you sent you currency to a Group already, can you get it back? Yes, but likely no!

At this point for all those who already sent in your currency, the best thing you can do is get more currency to exchange yourself, and hope the group is legitimate and does exchange like they are supposed to. You should know that any "Groups" that do not perform as they said they would, will be shut down so fast, and locked up so fast, it will blow their little Cabal minds. I don't care where you are on this planet. We are in a new World where EVERY government in the World operates under the VERY SAME GESARA laws and Cabal activities will no longer be permitted.

The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that groups are not the way to go. Even if you are already in a group, you will want to have currency in your hands that you exchange yourself. #1) It saves you in case the group is a Fraudulent one, #2) You will likely get way more money on your own exchange than you get from the group, and #3) You will get your money way faster from your individual exchange than you will from the Group.

In short, groups were formed in the early days before we all knew what was going on. Many of them were Cabal inspired (NOT ALL), and as such were meant to limit your returns, control you money or just take it outright. Again, some groups were legitimate, but they still had SUPER LOW rates. You are way better off exchanging as an individual. Threats from these groups are NOT PERMITTED, and will be dealt with.

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams/Plans

Signed: One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr.

"Guilty of Financial Fraud on Zim?" - One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. 3/30/17

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I was reading some of the responses on my ZIM post and I became quite amused when I read that ZIM was worthless on one of the compilations. It was by WHJ, and here is the link so everyone can enjoy this with me:

"OWK’s:

Well you were almost on the right track with your comments regarding the Zim and it being a valuable piece of paper.

However I suggest you may also be totally off base and again, as always, misleading the bloggers with disinformation.

Here is how it is and here is what is going on: No NESARA. No GESARA. And no un earned fortunes waiting in the wings.

The narcissistic gurus are not gurus at all. They own or work for the currency dealers that sell Zim, IRD, VND etc. etc. Post absolute BS on DC and continue to sell what is actually worthless paper - and the only honesty involved is when the sellers state the truth that it is “collector’s items”!

An aside: I continue to post one question: Show me ONE, just one, item of verifiable truth regarding NESARA etc. that has been stated on DC.

Enjoy gullibility,
WHJ"

Now I am not an attorney, and frankly it wouldn't matter if I were because the laws are going to be changing from "Statute Law" (Made up laws), to Natural Law which is Constitutional Law. While I don’t know everything about the change what I do know is very interesting to say the least.

So as I was thinking about all of this, I began to ponder what might be happening to those people who have been trying their best to keep us from buying currency and/or getting a high rate for it. Here are some of my thoughts. ENJOY!

The Difference In The New Law

Basically, Statute Laws are rules made up and if you can beat the rules, you stay out of trouble. But with Constitutional Law, or Natural Law, the main test of guilt is doing harm to another. That is a BIG DEAL.

It used to be that "Grand Theft" (Or Fraud) was a crime of at least $1,000, thus the "Grand" in grand theft. I am not sure of what the limits are for Financial Crimes/Fraud are but, I can bet that A Trillion Dollar Crime is way up there. VERY BAD in these days when people are going to jail for a few thousand dollar crimes.

What Is A Crime?

The Crime, based on what I can figure, is when you cause harm to another in some way, and if that is Financial Harm, it is a Financial Crime. I am sure that intent to cause harm is also important to being convicted of the crime.

So in my example, if someone said that ZIM was no good, and that you were "gullible" if you bought it, that might be a crime of huge magnitude, or not. What is the difference? Intent to do harm of course.

Disclaimer:

Let me say right here, that this is not my job to figure out or prosecute. I am not the law and that is better left to those who are already assigned to cases like this one. I am just thinking out loud and speculating on what could happen in a case where someone was talked out of buying Zim, and it turned out to be due to a malicious act.

Before I go any further, it should also be noted, that of all the crimes that one could be guilty of, Financial Crimes are the main one that would keep you from being able to exchange these currencies. And a crime that involved the potential loss of trillions of dollars, would most likely give you a room at the gray bar hotel (Jail).

How Do We Judge Intent?

Again this is not my area of expertise but I could hazard a guess just for fun. Let's consider these points:

#1) I have been told by a VERY HIGH UP source that EVERYONE has already been Vetted. That means that everyone who bought currencies anywhere, is on record that they bought currencies, and which ones and how much of each. I am sure you all know that the government does not mess around on these kinds of things. This means that the person, well all persons, who have come on this website or any web site, and told people not to buy one currency or another are on record.

Note: Patrick DOES NOT have to reveal the email address that he has since EVERY SINGLE EMAIL EVER SENT is on record somewhere in some government data base.

#2) It is my guess, that IF these nay sayers, who are giving advise NOT to buy currencies, have not bought any themselves, they will most likely be OK. After all, they are giving their true feelings on the matter and not trying to harm others. Clearly they really believe what they have posted and therefore are NOT Intending harm.

#3) However, if these people who have posted on these websites and forums do have currency of their own, and my guess is they do, then they are truly trying to harm others by their misguided advice. And since that harm can run into the millions or trillions, and it is a Financial crime as well, that would mean that they would not only be barred from exchanging, but they most likely will be doing jail time also.

The argument is simple, if you really believed that these currencies are no good, then why do you own them yourself? Why are you at the exchange center trying to get big money with the very same currencies that you tried to keep others from getting?

I can see the shock on their faces now when they enter the exchange center and are hand cuffed and carted off instead of exchanging. WOW! I would love to see that.

#4) Importantly, EVERY SINGLE person in their life from family, friends, work associates and neighbors to name a few, will be tracked as well, in case they have tried to avoid getting in trouble by giving their currency to another to exchange. If there are others in their circle of contacts and they do exchange currency, they better NEVER, EVER give one penny to this nay sayer, because it might seem like that was the plan all along. Frankly, they not only make themselves suspect, they make everyone they know a suspect as well.

What is the Proof? Simple, there will be a record of the bad guys currency purchases and they will be waiting for him to exchange and if he does not try to exchange all the currencies he bought, that means he has given some or all to someone else. If that is the case and there is some sort of plan between them, they both go to jail and loose all their money.

#5) If they work for the CIA, or FBI, or whatever other agency, it will NOT SAVE THEM. You won't be able to say I was told to do this. That is like a murderer saying I was told to kill someone... You still committed the crime, financial or otherwise, and you still pay for the crime as well. Simple as that.

#6) In the new financial system, you can't hide money anymore. It tracks money movements 40 steps. No matter who gets the money or where they transfer it to, it is all transparent in the new system. No more drug money, or financial fraud, or hidden money sources. It is all in the open for the authorities to review.

It Is Too Late Now

What is a person to do, who owns currencies themselves, and still posted negative rants trying to persuade others not to buy currency? I guess they are screwed. After all, the authorities in this new benevolent system already know what each of us bought, and what we have been posting as well. At this point, if they made those type of posts, and they had the same currencies themselves, it is already too late. If they said the ZIM was no good and DO NOT Buy it, they better not have purchased zim themselves, much less try to exchange it. For these people it is already over.

To Be Clear

However, to be clear, if someone wrote posts saying the zim is no good for example, and they never bought ZIM themselves, and they are not caught at the exchange center trying to exchange it, I think they will be fine. They clearly did not intend harm since they were saying what they really believed and were not trying to mislead people and cause them harm.

BUT, if someone bought zim, or has zim, or tries to exchange zim, and they have tried to keep others from getting in on Zim,.... I can only think of one word: SCREWED! Remember, EVERYONE has already been vetted (Checked Out), and the NPTB already know who has what, and they know who is posting what as well. Don't worry though, they won't pick them up until after this has gone and the crime is thus completed. What I mean is that they did not retract their statements and at that point those who believed them no longer have a chance to get zim. (The Crime)

What Is A Bad guy To Do?

What can they do? I don’t know really. After all, even if they don't try to exchange the zim, they are still on record of buying it and still on record for what they posted. That proves intent all day long. If they give it to someone it does not change that they bought it. If they get to the exchange center and hand their zim to the exchanger, I am sure it will be processed, and then frozen right after wards as evidence. Frankly if they have done what I think they have done, they are already screwed, and there is nothing that can be done about it. Only one thing can save them.... If The Zim Is Really Worthless.

If The Zim Is Worthless

If the zim is worthless, then they gave good advice and did not harm others. This is the ONLY chance they have of not losing all their money (You can't exchange if you have committed a financial crime), and possibly doing jail time. I say chance because if they owned ZIM and told others not to get it, it still proved intent. But if it turns out the ZIM is no good, then they might be given a chance to not be arrested.

What About Those Who Say Buy Zim?

This is the category that I fall in. Remember the crime is based on intent. I have zim and I am recommending zim because I really believe in it and the proof is that I bought it myself. What about people who say buy zim and they don't have any? First, maybe they didn't have the money, which fails the intent part. But if they really had intent to harm buy talking people into buying zim and it does not revalue, then they could be considered guilty as well. But, it would be based on the money lost, such as $50, or a couple of hundred dollars. In contrast, those who tried to stop Zim purchases, and the zim goes into the Trillions, they caused a Multi-Trillion dollar loss as a result.

The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that I wouldn't want to be one of the naysayers who spoke against zim, or other currencies, when they purchased them as well. That is perfect evidence, the purchase of ZIM, and the posts against zim. That is a clear intent to harm, and based on the new Fraud free financial system, they will not get away with that. Interestingly and importantly, even if The New Powers That Be, didn't think of this, and I know they have, they are now alerted to it by this post.

Since everyone has already been vetted, the evidence is already in hand. I am sure that even if they do not go to exchange, the Zim naysayers, who hold zim themselves, will get a knock on the door, soon after this starts. Remember that this is a new world and any currency related crime, is most likely a multi-million dollar crime at the least, since the crime is measured by loss of potential. NO MORE CABAL TYPE CRIMES. No more tricking people, conning them, and ruining their lives. But, we won't know who is guilty of what until the GCR starts. However, if the Zim and the other currencies are worth big money, then I expect there will be a lot of Financial Fraud Arrests. There is a new sheriff in town, and he has got work to do.

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams/Plans

Signed: One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr.

"Who's Stage Is It Anyway?" - One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. 5/17/17

Who's Stage Is It Anyway?

I've been thinking about this question for a little while now, as nay-sayers demand their right to free speech, and to be on the IDC stage. But that begs the question "Who's stage is it anyway?" when you answer this question, you will clearly realize who has a right to it and who does not. It turns out that Free Speech is "By Invitation Only."

The Concert Promoter

I can't help but think about what a concert promoter goes through creating a "Show" that people will want to come and see and pay for. It has to be good and the audience is a VERY IMPORTANT part of the consideration. If the "Acts" (Posters) are not chosen well, the audience does not show up, and the advertising does not pay. So it makes sense that there are important considerations.

#1) The MIX Of Performers

Clearly, if you are putting on a Rock Music show, you have all Rock and Roll bands, or at least bands that are compatible with Rock and roll. Same is true of country music, or Jazz, or even classical. In any give show, the acts have to be "Congruent" or else it DOES NOT DRAW IN THE AUDIENCE.

Can you imagine a Rock and Roll show, after a high powered band leaves the stage, the next act is a classical pianist playing Beethoven? That doesn't work. Never did, never will. That is why TVs have channels, so that people can watch the types of shows or acts that they want to watch. The same is true of Websites. Some specialize in Cooking, others music, others pets, others, growing plants, but no matter the "Channel/Webpage" it has a certain specialty that draws in a certain audience.

Our site here on IDC is no different. We are a positive, enlightening, and informative site. NOT a satire, NOT a dissenters platform, and NOT an end of the World stories venue. It is just for the positive information an posts only.

#2) The Audience Is Earned & Cultivated

Any performer, self help Guru, speaker, etc, cultivates their audiences and over time builds a following. When they take the stage, it is their audience that shows up. It BELONGS TO THEM, AND THEM ALONE. No one else has any right or claim to that audience. How could they? Can you imagine a Rolling Stones Concert, with a packed stadium, or for our friend Heisenberg, a Bono Show. In the middle of the music set, a person runs up on the stage and grabs the mic and start telling that audience that Bono sucks and everything he is saying is wrong. Telling the Audience that he needs to prove himself and he has not done that yet.

Are you kidding me? Who's stage is this anyway? Bono goes to throw this person off his stage (Website) and the person claims the most pathetic argument that has ever been uttered "I have Free Speech!" And if that was not pathetic and telling enough, he says "I have a right to be on this stage and talk to your audience and say bad things about you!" Are you kidding me? But, as stupid as this argument is, we see that VERY SAME one being made here all the time.

#3) Who's Stage Is It Anyway?

To my pathetic and delusional misguided friends, you do have free speech to a point. You can't yell fire in a movie theater unless it is true. There is a big difference between having the right to speak your mind, and having the right to take over someone else's stage. You have the right to go and set up your own webpage, and cultivate and build your own audience and bitch and moan to your heart's delight on your own platform, and stage.

As far as this Platform stage and webpage that Patrick has spent years cultivating and perfecting, you have NO RIGHTS and NEVER DID. The right to speak on this stage comes by invitation only. I GUARANTEE YOU that the concert promoter (Webmaster) who invites Bono to perform (Post) on his stage, DOES NOT invite a heckler to come on stage next who is going to bash Bono. THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN IN THE REAL WORD AND IT IS TIME FOR YOU BASHERS TO GET REAL AS WELL.

To be clear, Free Speech does not mean you have a right to anyone else's stage/platform. It means that you can go and set up your own web page and spend you money and time developing it and then speak all you want.... Will you have an audience for your platform/stage? Who knows and frankly, I don’t care. I only care about this stage and who is invited to speak on it.

#4) Audiences (Funders) Are Fickle

If a concert promoter is not careful about the shows they produce (Put together) they will lose their audiences. You can't invite performers and hecklers to be in the same show, it doesn't work. After a while, the audience stops coming to see the show. That is not to say that there isn't an audience for that, clearly there is. There are plenty of other sites who specialize in ranting, bitching and moaning, whining and complaining. THAT IS WHERE YOU WILL NOT ONLY BE INVITED, BUT YOU WILL BE WELCOMED AS WELL. But, that type of posting, is not welcomed here on Patrick's stage. If Patrick allowed that to continue, the performers (Posters) would stop showing up.

(UP-DATE) By the way, I just got an update on other WebPages on the net. I have heard from my Top sources, that since the Republic's Operation Sand Paper, over 60 websites have come forward (So Far - More expected), turned over the information of their most troublesome posters to the authorities, and have now pledged to no longer allow Cabal Agenda type post on their sites. In fact, not only are they no longer accepting the negative posts, they are actively seeking more positive and informative posts. They have made it clear that they are wanting to support the incoming Republic, and their websites will now be more congruent with that philosophy and Reality. So to the ranters and naysayers, the places where your type of agenda are welcomed are shrinking by the day as the World moves into peace and prosperity.


#5) The Performers (Posters) Are Fickle

If You think the Audience is fickle, the performers are a million times more fickle. If they get heckled every time they show up (Post), they just stop showing up. I dare say that there is a lot of very important and powerful intel and content that we are NOT getting because they do not want to face the in house hecklers that we have here. I don't give a damn, I just run them over, but not everyone has a Whack-A-Troll mallet like I have.

#6) It Is A Balance

So, in the end, it is a balance between content (Posters) , and audience. You have to ask two questions and then strike a balance between them.

A) Who are the Audience?

B) Who are the Posters?

If you pick the posters, that determines the Audience you will attract, and if you decide on the audience, that determines the Posters you will feature. It is a balance. In this case, when running a web page that is paid for by advertising, the audience is a very important consideration. It all comes down to "Page Views" = income to live on and keep the blog going.

I know plenty of people who tell me that they have just a few people they follow and they read those and then close the IDC webpage. Clearly this is because the rest of the show is not worthy of attention, page views. It would be like a screwed up concert where people watch Bono perform, and then next on stage is a Bono heckler and basher. First that would never happen in real life, and second the audience would get up and walk out. What is the next act/post after that? Who knows the audience has left the house/stadium.

Twisted Logic

Don't even try me on this matter. No amount of twisted logic can validate that the nay-sayers and negative ranters have ANY RIGHTS TO THIS STAGE WHAT SO EVER. NONE! Don't even try.

Can you imagine a Willie Nelson Benefit Concert to help the farmers save their lands, allowing some negative ranter on stage to talk down to the audience and tell them that they don’t know what they are doing and everything that was said about the farmers losing their land was a lie? That would never happen. But that does bring up a very important point "Intent."

Intent

Rock Concerts don't normally have an intent except to have a good time with hard driving music. But if a platform or stage did have an intent, then clearly EVERY single performer (Poster) would need to be in line with that intent. RIGHT? Of course that is right, what else is there?

The intent of this IDC site is to bring important intel, enlightenment and encouragement to the Light Workers of this World, and help raise our vibrations as we head to ascension. IT IS NOT TO DISCOURAGE PEOPLE AND LOWER THEIR VIBRATIONS. Thus the intent of this stage, webpage, is of upmost importance. In that regard, Negative rants, bashers and those who spread fear and doubt, are NOT welcomed here. Clear?

The intent of this Venue, stage, platform website, is to serve the greater good and help humanity raise up in vibration, through wisdom, information, enlightenment, and encouragement. So Be It!

The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that this site had begun to lose its identity by letting negative posters have this stage to promote their own agenda which is incongruent with the intent of IDC. Those days are over. For those who want to rant, and those who want to read the rants, there are other places on the web for you to do so. You are "Free" to go there and speak.

The Free Speech argument? PLEASE! Are you kidding me? Try that one at the next rock concert that comes to town. Rush the stage and climb up on it, grab the mic and start bashing the band and claim free speech and see what happens. OUCH! To be clear YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS TO THIS STAGE. It is by invitation only, and ranters, complainers and their kind are NOT INVITED.

This is the line in the sand. It is a FIRST BIG STEP into the new World way of thinking. I hope that once the bashers and ranters, and those who have a Cabal agenda of gloom, doom, and doubt, are gone, that we will have new posters who come forth to share their wisdom, intel and encouragement. I dare say that the only posters of merit we have left are those who are tough enough to deal with the ranters and bashers, but why should they have to? That is over now.

People (Posters) are being blocked right now and have been. You know who you are. If your message/post, is congruent with the intent of this site and the audience that Patrick wants to attract, it will be posted, if not, it will be rejected without discussion. Both the performers (Posters) and the audience have to be considered when accepting or rejecting a post. Keep that in mind, if you want to be invited to post here. In the end, and MOST importantly, "Who's Stage Is This Anyway?" Patrick's. End of discussion.

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams/Plans

Signed: One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr.




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Richard must not be selling many books over at the Zorro website, as it's obvious that he has his sights set on taking over Dinar Chronicles.