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"Operational" - KTFA Thoughts, News w/ Frank26 4/17/19

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DELTA » April 17th, 2019

The Finance Committee holds a workshop to review the draft Federal Financial Management Act

April 16, 2019

Under the patronage of the Finance Committee and with the support of the Canadian Governance Institute, the third workshop was held on Tuesday 16/4/2019 at the Kalgamesh Hall in Babel Hotel in Baghdad to review the draft Federal Financial Management Law, in the presence of the delegation of the Canadian Governance Institute and the Undersecretary of the Ministry of Planning.

The workshop was opened by MP Faleh al-Sari, a member of the committee, in which he praised the role of the institute in establishing courses and workshops on the laws in the House of Representatives with a view to maturing them and involving governmental institutions and non-governmental organizations in the discussions to make amendments to the laws and make opinions and suggestions thereon.

First and second and pending vote on it.

Al-Sari stressed the importance of the law in the formulation of fiscal policies in Iraq, and the provinces can benefit from the law significantly, expressing the hope that the workshop comes out with a clear vision of the law and is maturing at a level that meets ambition.

For his part, Mr. Silvan Dibwa, deputy director of the Institute, expressed satisfaction at the holding of the third workshop on the law, stressing that the institute held two workshops in the previous parliamentary session on the same law. He stressed the Institute's support to the House of Representatives in providing advice and holding courses and workshops.

Deboa expressed his hope that this workshop will come up with proposals and opinions that will help in coming up with an appropriate law for fiscal policy in Iraq.

The workshop discussed the articles and paragraphs of the law with a view to reviewing them and soliciting the proposals and opinions of the representatives of the ministries of planning, finance, economy and finance experts to attend.

The Commission promised to study these proposals

And take them into account and discuss them within the Committee before the law is submitted to the vote.

Department of Information
Parliament
16/4/2019

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[size=18]Frank26 » April 17th, 2019[/size]

[size=18]GOI ........ ALSO WANTS THE RI ......[/size]

[size=18]MilitiaMan » April 17th, 2019[/size]

Thanks Samson! Frank told me this one is like they put their foot on it and to the floor!! .. lol ~ MM

[size=18]Samson » April 17th, 2019[/size]

Trade Bank of Iraq to open first Saudi Branch

17th April, 2019

The state-owned Trade Bank of Iraq (TBI) will reportedly open its first operational branch outside Iraq on Thursday.

Chairman and President Faisal Al-Haimus told Arab News that the new branch in Saudi capital Riyadh will also be the only active Iraqi bank in the Kingdom.LINK

[size=18]Trade Bank of Iraq to open first Saudi branch[/size]

17th April, 2019

The Trade Bank of Iraq (TBI) is entering the Saudi market with the opening of a branch in Riyadh on Thursday. It will be the bank’s first operational branch outside Iraq, and the TBI will be the only active Iraqi bank in the Kingdom, TBI Chairman and President Faisal Al-Haimus told Arab News on Tuesday.

On Thursday, a ribbon-cutting event will be held at the Riyadh branch in Al-Olayya district. Attendees on the Iraqi side will include Al-Haimus, the prime minister, the finance minister and the Central Bank’s governor. Saudi officials will also attend. LINK

[size=18]MilitiaMan » April 17th, 2019[/size]

The TBI’s board of directors has also expressed plans to expand to Turkey. 

TBI was ranked No. 1 in the cost to income category in the Middle East by The Banker.

As we all know that this bank is going to be helping facilitate exchange trade for Iraq and Saudi Arabia. They are opening the first, only active and operational branch inside the SA kingdom. The key point is it is an operational bank.

For that to have or be the case, then they will be needing an international rate to go with it's operations into the future, ioo.

So for the Prime Minister, the Finance Minister and Central Bank Governor are to show up tomorrow all together, is imo huge! 

If this was to be an ordinary bank opening, they would not be attending all at the same time, imo.

The curious part to me is or will be when they actually do the ribbon cutting.. I imagine it will be in the after noon. Thereby, getting the ceremony done on or around close of business, as it is possibly more of an opening and ceremonial process in nature, more so than come on in and open an account, imo.

It could also be a signal for those the have a need to know what Iraq is doing and the implications of the opening of an operational bank. (BIS)?

Those operations will be most likely starting once back from holiday next week. It could also be since the word operational is being used, they clearly mean something different than before.

This to me is saying they are ready for operations and those that have the need to know what operations are going to go into effect will be on hand at the ceremony to make sure that all who attend have agreed that this bank is to operate by their standards in place with the associated mechanisms. Tools of the trade if you will.

I believe they timed this one very nicely! It also precedes the Parliamentary blocks arriving to Iraq Saturday. Lets not forget the ISX / NASDAQ were also scheduled to celebrate a 10 year anniversary on Friday.

Lets look at what they have told us of late. They told us they were paying citizens electronically starting 04/08/2019 thru 04/18/2019 which is tomorrow. Just as the ITB gets a ribbon cutting ceremony.

Then the next day "Good Friday" if they stick to it the ISX / Nasdaq gets celebrated ahead of markets opening Monday. Again, wondering how that fits, as banks are open Friday, but, markets are closed.. Anyway, the next day is the parliamentary blocks from surrounding Countries throughout the region are to be in for the festivities.

They are calling for Holiday's for Sunday and possibly Monday. So, the timing of this all is just before FINANCIAL INCLUSION day that for some reason has become a time frame of 04/25/2019 - 04/30/2019. 

My view on that time frame is not terribly important, as they will be teaching about the new products for some time to come.

My main focus is on the activities they are openly telling the world by what they are saying and doing now. Mahdi told us they were going to raise the exchange rate prior to June. Well with this above it looks like they will meet that by far. ~ Imo.

So lets see how this all shakes out. Like Frank26 told me effectively. "The out of country opening of the first operational bank in SA and by one that is to facilitate exchange trade shows they have put their foot to the floor now.." Way cool!! imo ~ MM

By the way, Kuwait is also in line just as Saudi Arabia.. They will facilitate trade. The article in post #14 says Turkey is too..~ So lets watch and see what Rafiadain Bank and the Iraq Trade Banks too with the new mechanisms.. Walking Stick and Frank told us months ago to watch for what they do.. Well they are becoming operational. They all need to be on the same page! imo.. ~ MM

[size=18]Frank26 » April 17th, 2019[/size]

[size=18]Excellent analysis MM !!! KTFA .............. please do not miss the word .......... “ OPERATIONAL”[/size]

my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas

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my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 08:09:47 AM »
My brother reconnected with a female friend from grade school about 9 months ago and they are going to get married in May 2018. She is a nice girl with a good heart. However, she is really excited about the Iraqi Dinar RV (re-evaluation) that is going to happen within the next 3-6 months (according to her). 

She pretty much brain washed my brother into buying into this idea. My brother has a 4 year degree in Business Entrepreneurship. He is all about the high risk and high reward type of thing. He tried and failed a few MLM businesses over the last 5-10 years. She graduated high school. They are both 36. 

However, this type of business scheme is a little bit of a stretch for my brother, but not entirely uncommon. 

My brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my birthday last June and for Christmas. He also bought it for my wife and 1 year old son. We have about 400,000 of Iraqi Dinar, which I think is about 325 US dollars. He is giving me a hard sell to buy some for myself or I could miss out on some big profits of 100 to 1, when it re-evaluates. 
 
The best article I could find out about it is below. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jayadkisson/2012/07/30/you-cant-fix-stupid-the-iraqi-dinar-scam-lives/#3f398ae3150b

1) Any chance that I could politely tell my brother to stop buying me this crap?

2) Any chance that I could politely tell my brother to stop buying it for himself? 

3) How do the sellers make money? Do they just give the buyer a poor exchange rate?

4) What is the best way to convert my Iraqi Dinar back into US currency? 

Thank you.
« [i]Last Edit: December 27, 2017, 01:35:31 PM by clarkfan1979[/i] »

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #1 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 12:32:17 PM »
Good luck getting him to change his mind...

As for converting them to US dollars, ask your bank/credit union. There is usually one bank in the area that specializes in currency. In my area (Salt Lake City) it is Zion’s Bank. Call first. 

Good Luck

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #2 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM »
Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?

That not being the case, here's my thinking, for what it's worth (which should be very little, since, as admitted above, I have zero familiarity with the topic): If there's even a small chance of the "100 to 1" valuation, why not hold onto the stuff for now, just for fun? 

As for your questions:

1) Good luck with that. Forbes is well-known and as far as I know has a good reputation; could you send him that article?

2) See (1) above.

3 & 4) No effing clue. 

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #3 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:22:33 PM »
So when the Iraqis lop off a couple of zeroes off the currency, you'll basically be left with monopoly money.

The old banknotes obviously cease to be legal tender, with new ones issued in replacement.

People are still falling for Zimbabwe money scams. Looks like the scammers are expanding their repertoire...

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #4 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:37:20 PM »
Quote from: Miss Piggy on December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM

Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?

That not being the case, here's my thinking, for what it's worth (which should be very little, since, as admitted above, I have zero familiarity with the topic): If there's even a small chance of the "100 to 1" valuation, why not hold onto the stuff for now, just for fun? 

As for your questions:

1) Good luck with that. Forbes is well-known and as far as I know has a good reputation; could you send him that article?

2) See (1) above.

3 & 4) No effing clue. 

I modified the topic. Thank you for the suggestion.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #5 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:59:24 PM »
On a side note, don't lend them money, and don't let them know how much you have. Just in case.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #6 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 02:07:08 PM »
Oh, the glorious Christmas gift of ENTERTAINMENT!   ClarkFan1979, so sorry you had to be the conduit for this pile of chuckles.  At least he is giving to you, not (so far) trying to get you to buy his wares, as so often happens in MLMs.  In my own mind, I will classify him as Kindhearted Bro until further notice.

Re your questions:
1. Of course you can tell him, but why rain on his parade?  He is not going to learn from you, only from experience, if at all.  He will, however, feel the love or disdain in your response.  Tell him you admire his bold spirit, and ask him if he's going to take you to Acapulco or Dubai when his dinars revalue.

2. See 1.  

3. I was wondering that myself.  I can only assume they sell above the exchange rate, or sell counterfeits, or sell the old notes that have been replaced by new ones when the Iraqi government lopped three zeroes off a few years ago (I read that Forbes article).  Best guess: selling the valueless old notes at the price of the new notes.  Great margins, plus they can appear to be giving zero markup.

4. Exchange it for Bitcoin!  Bwahaha, my whole response was just to make this one brief joke.  

Quiet times here, hope this offered a shred of amusement.  In all seriousness, I once had a friend whose financial schemes ranged from wild failure to just being broke on a regular basis.  The choice was to enjoy to his merry ways at the price of observing his failures, or block him off and wonder what was happening.  I chose to enjoy his merry ways.  Even more so, a relative is someone you don't want to block off unless staying connected is actively harmful.  Good luck getting rid of the bills or coins.  And having lost a relative or two in recent year, treasure your brother for who he is, even if it's not (fortunately!!) who you are.   Cheers.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #7 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 02:47:28 PM »
Quote from: Miss Piggy on December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM

Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?

Yes, huge disappointment. :p

+1 to exchange for Bitcoin.
+1 for being supportive to Kindhearted Bro, who sincerely thinks this will lead to mega riches and wants to share that prospect with you.

Answers to 1 & 2)
Explain that although you support him, you're a much more conservative investor and would prefer index funds instead... or traditional gifts such as clothes, gift cards, gadgets (even if you don't like them/need them it would still be preferable to his MLM stuff).

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #8 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 04:16:39 PM »
How does everyone NOT know this scam.  This is older than the Nigerian prince scam.  Go convert all that junk into real money.  Tell your brother that's what you did and if he gives you any more, you'll do it again.  Your brother should sell Amway.  Way better chance of making money than with this scam.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #9 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 02:48:45 AM »
I had some left over from Iraq deployments and eventually sold it all on Ebay. 

Ask your brother this... how can he explain the 100 to 1 value increase?  So you're saying an Iraqi could take his dinar and suddenly be 100x richer if he changes it to dollars (after the valuation)?  We're about to be flooded with Iraqi millionaires then. 

Secondly, if it was a real 'investment', then real rich folks would be buying every single dinar they could get their hands on.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #10 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 06:30:38 AM »
If your brother is anything like mine, tell him this is the best idea he’s ever had and you wished you thought of it. Tell him you support him 100% and you’d invest everything you have except you can’t but that he should right away. Cause if your brother is anything like mine, he’ll do the opposite of whatever you tell him and reject all of your advice.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #11 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 07:19:07 AM »
This scam has been going on for almost a decade. 

I have met quite a few people over the years who have tried to get me to "buy in". 

Good luck.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #12 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 08:32:11 AM »
Say thank you for the gift. Turn it into USD and invest it. Leave the issue alone. You are not going to solve your brother's problem.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #13 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 01:29:25 PM »
It's ironic that this is getting posted today. I was listening to NPR this morning and they had a segment on the Iraqi government's estimate on the cost to rebuild the destruction caused by ISIS. Unfortunately, no one is willing to help them finance the reconstruction effort and I imagine the Iraqi dinar will take a bigger hit when the government starts printing more money to rebuild. 

Zimbabwe Dollars though...those have value. I keep a few of those notes around around my MegaCorp office just in case we have a bad quarter in terms of revenue. For some reason my bosses don't seem to derive much comfort from the fact that if we're behind I can give them 10 BILLION DOLLARS!!!1!

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #14 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 01:47:20 PM »
Oh this brings back memories of a nutter I knew a few years ago. I think the north Korean currency is the other one these folks also say is set to explode.  

I suppose it could be entertaining reading.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #15 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 02:28:57 PM »
I bought some when I was deployed in 2004-2005. About $200 worth (250,000 dinar). Last time I checked it's gone up in value to about $210. I suppose that's better than if I had left it in a savings account but had it been in an index fund it would have doubled or tripled since then. I can't recall what the rate of return has been but it's something like 1-2% over 12-13 years.

It was neat to pull it out and show my kids as I had a mix of various bills. That's about it though. It's just a souvenir at this point. Maybe I should sell some of it to your brother?

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #16 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 06:48:28 PM »
Sell it to your brother

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #17 on:[/b] December 31, 2017, 08:53:21 AM »
Thank you for the help. I will continue to support my brother with his business adventures, but not contribute any of my own money. 
 
I'm going to try to exchange it within the next 2-3 days. Not all currency exchange businesses will exchange the Dinar. I'm guessing there is a higher risk of counterfeit. Hopefully my Dinar is not counterfeit.  I will find out soon. 

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #18 on:[/b] January 06, 2018, 08:52:45 PM »
I exchanged the Iraqi Dinar currency today for US dollars. An internet search today claims that $400,000 Iraqi Dinar is worth $337 US dollars. I went to the currency exchange in Denver at the Cherry Creek mall. They gave me $230 US dollars, minus a $5 fee for a total of $225. I have heard that a currency exchange will change 20%. However, this was a 33% fee. 

Maybe the fee is higher because of a higher level chance of fraud? When I looked at their board of exchange rates it looks like they charged only 15% for more legitimate currencies.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #19 on:[/b] January 06, 2018, 10:52:03 PM »
Quote from: clarkfan1979 on January 06, 2018, 08:52:45 PM

I exchanged the Iraqi Dinar currency today for US dollars. An internet search today claims that $400,000 Iraqi Dinar is worth $337 US dollars. I went to the currency exchange in Denver at the Cherry Creek mall. They gave me $230 US dollars, minus a $5 fee for a total of $225. I have heard that a currency exchange will change 20%. However, this was a 33% fee. 

Maybe the fee is higher because of a higher level chance of fraud? When I looked at their board of exchange rates it looks like they charged only 15% for more legitimate currencies.

They'll just be profiting on the currency spread. They might sell that 400,000 dinar to someone for $400 later on. The more common currencies that'll be easier for them to on-sell (and potentially less volatile) will probably have more competitive rates.

I've got some Sri Lankan rupees I've been meaning to sell from when I was there last year. They're valued at 120LKR to the Australian dollar at present (based on xe.com rates), but the currency conversion place will buy them at 140LKR to the AUD. I paid about 105-110 when I bought them

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #20 on:[/b] January 07, 2018, 05:43:33 PM »
Wowza, the spread on Polish Zlote (PLN) is about .02-.03PLN per dollar, or about one cent. 

33% sounds insane, so does 15%. 

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #21 on:[/b] January 07, 2018, 08:39:04 PM »
The thread reminded me that I have a butter tub of Saudi Riyals from Desert Storm.
I'll have to count it and see what it's worth.




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# 5. Keep your web browsing and e-mail private. Whenever you contact a company or organization on the Internet, the computer at the other end will often insert a "cookie" into your computer – enabling merchants and government agencies to keep track of your web browsing.

The information that can be collected about you in this way is absolutely mind-boggling and includes your name, address, phone number, detailed information on the type of computer you are using, your Social Security number, credit-card numbers, a list of your friends and business contacts, and much more.

To keep your web browsing private, use an anonymous connection service,

For further protection, encrypt your e-mail, using high-level, 1024-bit encryption software, such as Pretty Good Privacy (PGP). http:// www.pgp.comZero Knowledge Systems (ZKS) offers software called "Freedom" which also uses 1024-bit encryption and which: Allows you to use multi-pseudonyms that can't be traced to your real name Prevents the receipt of Internet cookies Provides multi-layers of encryption.

# 6. KEEP YOUR HOME ADDRESS & PHONE# PRIVATE! This is the single MOST IMPORTANT step you can take to protect your privacy though all items within this POST are urgent for your welfare. Government snoops can't nose around your home, bug your computer, or listen in on your calls, if they don't know where you live or your phone number..

To keep your home address private, rent or buy your home in the name of an out-of-state corporation (Delaware and Nevada corporations are best). Also put your utilities in the name of the corporation, as well as your phone, and magazine and newspaper subscriptions.

This is precisely what TV personalities, professional athletes, and film stars do to protect their privacy. And it's not expensive. A Delaware corporation can be set up for as little as $150 and maintained for $50 a year!

Take your names off your local country tax rolls and replace your name with "property Owner". this is crucial!!!

# 6 B: Receive all MAIL personally addressed to you at a nearby mail drop, such as Mail Boxes, Etc. (about $15 a month), or an Executive Office Service ($50 to $150 a month), or at the address of a friend who owns a nearby business (free). Then use this address for your driver's license and car registration.

Naturally, your car will also be registered in the name of your corporation. Properly set up, a Delaware or Nevada corporation can also dramatically lower your taxes, if you're an independent contractor. (Please consult your attorney.)

For a private home phone, use a company name when setting up a new phone account, rather than your own, and make sure and get caller ID, complete blocking. To add a further level of phone privacy, purchase a prepaid cell phone – such as those offered by Trac Fone through Blockbuster, WalMart, and Staples.

No name, address, credit check, etc. is required to set up an account, and you can buy phone cards for cash to add more time. As of 11/11 Wal-Mart sells i-phones for less than $100 and Unlimited internet, text and talk for $55 per month. This is a fabulous rate!!!

#7 A.) (TWO PARTS) . Keep your medical records more private. Information in your medical files can be used to deny you insurance, jobs, and legal benefits. It could be even used by a government just slightly more authoritarian than the one we now have, to take away your children or commit one elsewhere.

Unfortunately, each time you see a doctor or check into a hospital or clinic, they will usually demand your Social Security Number, which in turn will be used to file and locate your medical records.

You can protect yourself from unwanted snooping by getting an alternative Medical photo ID from ID Network (IDN). No SSN is required, and medical records are kept in your own handwriting. $9.95. Call 1-888-329-3686 or 314-416-7411, http://www.idnetwork.com.

#7 PART B: In the civilized society, we each have a crucial zone of privacy shielding us from outside snooping and control. Privacy is about keeping more of what you earn – protecting the sensitive information in your computer - avoiding being hassled by the IRS or police – protecting your children – and minimizing your chances of a 2 am visit by a machine-gun-toting SWAT team.

The battle for your privacy is the battle for your freedom. Ultimately it is a battle we will win. AMEN.

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#8. EXCHANGE TIME : these are suggestions to consider; you decide what IS BEST UNDER YOUR SITUATION. THERE ARE MANY OPTIONS HERE FOR PRECAUTIONARY MEASURES. The wolves inside and outside the bank can be few to many in different clothing. Your Life and Your Life Savings may be at RISK.

# 9. Do not park in the bank lot. Why show your car tags to others that will jot them down and trace u? A camera can take a photo of you and your tags for blocks away. Take a taxi or rental car to the banks.

# 10.. Go with someone to the bank; spouse, best friend who is a fellow Dinarian. Caps and glasses are nice. Make no new friends at the bank or locally who might discover your fortunes.

#11.. Make an appointment , if required, to make the 'exchange'.

#12. Know your rate before you go. Have a predetermined game plan. Shop your rates. Seek investment angles, advice also from maybe Smith Barney, Scottrade Inc, etc, various options.

# 13. Watch your body language, look and play the part of Investor. MANY maybe WATCHING. Use dressy attire but no jeans or T's.

#14.There is NO rush to cash in; supposedly many weeks and option days to have the possible 15% tax advantage with no audits (this is still a rumor; will be confirmed sooner or later next week). Seek competent tax and legal advice.
 
#15. If your deposit is in an acct "non interest bearing savings acct" this should be Dodd-Frank. check with your banker. NIB accts are usually unlimited in coverage.

#16. SMITH BARNEY or MORGAN STANLEY INC. OR SCOTTRADE INC ET and others can re-insure your accounts somewhere in the $600,000 TO ONE BILLION $$ range per account.

Seek legal advice and the broker / company policies. DO NOT LEAVE SIGNIFICANT LARGE SUMS IN INSTITUtIONS UNLESS ITS RE-INSURED; IE: LLOYDS IN


#17. AFTER MAKING YOUR INITIAL DEPOSIT; TRANSFER IT TO ANOTHER INTEREST FREE CHECKING ACCT WITHIN THE WEEK; SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. THIS PREVENTS WIRE TRANSFER AGENTS AND PAST BANK KNOWING YOUR NEW ACCT #!! (AGAIN, PLEASE FILTER ALL THIS DATA. YOU DECIDE WHICH WORKS FOR U, BUT TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE AND WAITING IS NOT HEALTHY FOR THESE ISSUES AND ACTIONS HEREIN "MAY SAVE YOUR LIFE".

# 18. ONLY USE YOUR PASSPORTS FOR IDS: IT DOES NOT HAVE YOUR HOME ADDRESS, SOCIAL SECURITY # TIED IN. Avoid using your Drivers License for anything but the cops and court when or if mandated!

#19. Use UPS postal drop for home address or your attorney's office work address until you get things squared away about physical addresses. Never use one's home address for anything, especially: mail, fed ex, UPS, !!! Have your bank statements go to a Po Box! Never let one's attorney know how much money you have.

#20. IMHO, "Irrevocable Business Trust" or a "Irrevocable Spendthrift Trust" saves your wealth, health and happiness from the tax man. . It's Worth every penny and more. Trusts are much more apt to protect large estates. Revocable Trust hold little or no water with the IRS & States.

#21: IMHO: Legalshield.com or in some states, PREPAID LEGAL INC.: for family, business, Wills, IRS audits, Citations, legal situations. 100's of legal help issues that may give legal piece of Mind and ease the pocketbook too. Attorneys are assigned within your State to handle your cases. Some situations are outsourced to qualified attorneys within your state and they contact you. Fees average $17-49 monthly.

#22: BEWARE/ ALERT: RFID )))) RADIO FREQUENCY ID. RADIO CHIPS MAYBE INSIDE YOUR CREDIT CARD. IT IS ELECTRONIC ‘PICK-POCKETING’ OF ANOTHER’S CREDIT CARD # AND EXPIRATION DATE. LOOK FOR SYMBOL)))) OR POSSIBLE OTHER SYMBOLS. ONE’S CARD # AND EXPIRATION DATE INFO CAN BE COPIED ONTO SOMEONE’S ‘HOTEL ROOM KEY’.

THEFT DEVICE CAN BE BOUGHT FOR $100. KEEP ALL CREDIT CARDS INSIDE ALUMINUM /METAL SLEEVE OR CASE.

HACKERS CAN GET YOUR CARD #S VERY EASILY. SEE THIS VIDEO AND BEWARE. ‘RFID’ CHIPS ARE IN 33% OF CREDIT CARDS MADE TODAY. TAKE CAUTION NOW. THESE CHIPS CAN ALSO BE IN YOUR SOON TO BE BANK “BLACK DEBIT CARDS”. THIS COULD GET COSTLY AND DANGEROUS AT THE SAME TIME. IT’S BEST NOT TO HAVE ‘RFID’ CREDIT CARDS.

CHECK WITH YOUR BANK ON ‘CASH-IN’ / ‘CURRENCY EXCHANGE’ TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT ISSUED ANY TYPE OF “ RADIO FREQUENCY RFID )))) “ CREDIT CARDS ON ANY OF YOUR CURRENT (AND FUTURE) ACCOUNTS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLAFhTjsQHw&sns=em

#23 (#23-36 WERE ADDED 7/16/12): Reduce Your Risk of Identity Theft: Traveling (for business or pleasure) can increase your exposure to financial risk. Here are some simple tips to protect yourself and reduce the risk of identity theft as you head out on your summer vacation.

#24: Clean out your wallet: Take only your essential documents, like your driver’s license and just 2 credit cards – one to carry and one to leave in the safe at the hotel in case your wallet is lost or stolen. Don’t carry your social security card in your wallet – ever. Leave your extra credit cards or identifications documents at home. Men – keep your wallet in a buttoned pocket, women – wear a purse with wide straps and locking clasps, and don’t hang it on the door when you use a public restroom.

#25: Leave your checkbook at home:  You shouldn’t need it if you have credit cards. Leave your bills and private papers at home, too.

#26: Make a copy of your travel documents: Copy your passport, driver’s license, airline confirmations, etc. Leave it with a trusted friend in case you need help, or keep a copy safely tucked inside a suitcase pocket in case the original gets lost or stolen. Make a list of what you have in your wallet, along with the phone numbers on the back of your cards.

#27: Stop your mail or have a neighbor pick it up: A full mailbox with bank statements and credit card bills is a sure sign for hackers and thieves that you are not at home. Also, stop the newspaper, and don’t broadcast your travel plans on social networking sites.

#28: Alert your credit and debit card issuers: Let them know where you are traveling, how you may be reached, and when you will return. This helps the fraud department stop charges that may not be yours, and reduces the risk that your cards will be “frozen” due to unusual activity when you are away from home and can’t be reached

#29: Keep an eye on your cell phone: Many people are storing user ID’s and passwords and other personal information on their cell phones. Secure your phone with a security code so that it can’t be accessed if it is lost or stolen.

#30: Consider a temporary credit freeze: A freeze will deny access to your credit history, so ID thieves can’t open accounts while you are away. Setting up a freeze through the three credit reporting bureaus – Transunion, Experian and Equifax – takes time and money, so this is the most beneficial if you are planning a period of prolonged travel.

#31: Look for safer ATMs: If you need cash withdrawals, ATMs in bank lobbies are less vulnerable to devices used to capture your information, and are usually better lit and safer in general. They are also more likely to have surveillance cameras.

#32: Be careful with computers in hotels and other public places: Don’t access your financial data on hotel or other public computers or public Wi-Fi networks. Public computers may have spy-ware or malware installed which could record everything you type. Be sure to log out of any sites that you may access before leaving the PC.

#33: Beware of front desk calls: If you receive a call from a “clerk” saying that they need to re-enter your credit card number, hang up and call the front desk yourself. You don’t now who is at the other end of that call.

#34: A few simple steps will go a long way in protecting you and your information and prevent your vacation or business trip from turning into a headache. If you have any concerns about your personal information, notice any suspicious account activity, or experience a customer information security-related event, contact your bank branch immediately so that they can assist you.

#35: ONLY PUT ONE'S PO BOX ADDRESS ON THEIR CHECKS. NEVER PLACE BIRTHDATE OR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS OR EVEN PHONE NUMBER ON YOUR CHECKS. MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR THE WOLVES/THIEVES IF THEY TAKE ONE'S CHECKBOOK.

#36: ACT IMMEDIATELY AND ACCORDINGLY TO PROTECT ONESELF, FAMILY, BUSINESS. ONE OR TWO MINUTES COULD SAVE : TIME, MONEY, GRIEF, UNTOLD PAPERWORK & CHAOS!

#37: Any major ideas or investments, always bounce it off someone you trust like your CPA, Attorney or Investment advisors. Many are ashamed to admit they've been taken advantage of or conned. Do not be over-trusting, nieve or gullible.. When or if someone tries to interest you in a venture involving money /investments, say, "I'll discuss this with my real estate agent, CPA or lawyer and get back to you." Then talk with someone you trust.

#38: further info on personal identity: Scam-proof your communications by taking control of your personal information. Put your phone numbers (home and cell) on the Do Not Call Registry. Opt out from the sale or sharing of your personal information by contacting the three credit bureaus, your state department of motor vehicles, the Direct Marketing Association and companies with which you do business. Thieves cull your information and use it to open bogus accounts that can ruin your credit scores, credit and make your life absolutely miserable.

For more information on how to remove yourself from these databases, see the Federal Trade Commission's Web page on sharing your personal information.

#39: Don’t Trust Your Caller ID: Never do business over the phone, unless you initiate the call. Here's why: No matter what your caller ID might say, you don't really know who's on the other end of the line. If you place the call yourself, divulging personal information isn't as risky. If you receive a call from someone who claims to be with your bank, insurance company or some other place where you do business -- unless you recognize the caller -- say you'll call back. That will give you time to make sure the number is legitimate. Simply call the company's published number and ask to speak to the individual who called you, or to someone in the appropriate department.

#40: Ways to make using a debit card safer include the following: Run your purchases as credit so you don't have to input your PIN. & Always double-check your card when a clerk, cashier or waiter hands it back to you and make certain it's the same card you handed over.

Be suspicious of people who want to stand too close to you when you're using your debit card, particularly when they are using a cellphone. They could be recording your debit card information with their camera

#41: Regard All Links With Suspicion: Social networking can be a great way to keep up with friends and family, but scammers have found the Internet a gold mine of opportunity. Most of us know not to click on links in emails from people we don't know or to acknowledge those silly get-rich-quick schemes from strangers, but you should never underestimate a con artist's creativity.

For instance, a recent scam on Facebook involves a fake game based on the "Twilight" series. Fans are prompted to click on the link, exposing their personal information to scammers.

Best rule of thumb: Be on your guard and never click on links of unknown origin. Check on them by running a search with the relevant keyword (in this case, "Twilight") and "complaint" or "scam."

42# Safeguard Online Activities: Don't join the thousands who fall victim to online identity theft schemes each year. Some are as simple as planting a keystroke logger on your computer to copy your private information, while others involve complicated email exchanges.

Here are some of the best strategies for avoiding online fraud:

Don't ever respond to emails asking for your account information since they are almost always fakes.

Never click on links embedded in emails (even a friend or relative can accidentally pass along a virus). If you must see that funny video, type the URL directly into your browser.

#43: When you decide to purchase from an online merchant, always make certain that you're dealing with a reputable site. Check for complaints and never click on a link; instead, as with email links, type the company's correct URL into your browser.

Make it a habit to double-check that order forms are secure before completing them. Instead of the standard "http," the URL will begin with "https," which indicates a secure transmission.

#44: DOUBLE REMINDER : Don't forget to maintain up-to-date, functioning security software and a firewall WITH latest up to date Online Protection.

#45: Guard your medical insurance information and ALL PERSONAL INFORMATION OF ANY NATURE with the same zeal as you do your financial data. the National Health Care Anti-Fraud Association says the fallout from medical fraud can damage your credit rating, open you to litigation and even result in your receiving improper medical care. "Always examine your explanation of benefits for treatments that you didn't have," he says.

THE LESS INFO there is out there about you, the harder you are to target. Make the con artists' jobs difficult by avoiding their scam tactics. They don't deserve to score off your hard work.

* #s 37-45 contributed in part by : Former policewoman Carole Moore,author of "The Last Place You'd Look: True Stories of Missing Persons and the People Who Search for Them."

Read more: 8 ways to avoid getting conned

http://www.bankrate.com/finance/personal-finance/8-ways-to-avoid-becoming-a-successful-mark-1.aspx#ixzz217YsBOtg

ALL CONTRIBUTORS, INFO, IDEAS ARE SINCERELY APPRECIATED TO HELP DINARIANS AROUND THE PLANET. I LOVE YOU ALL. BLESSINGS. LAST UPDATE 11/11/12.

"Something on Trump's Desk" - Sun. AM KTFA Thoughts, News w/ Frank26 9/9/18

KTFA

Frank26 » September 9th, 2018

WITH ALL THE GARBAGE THROWN IN MY FACE ......... ALLOW ME TO VENT KTFA KONA:

Don961 » September 9th, 2018

A "meeting" is expected between "Abadi and Trump" on the 13th of this month

The political scene Saturday, September 08, 2018 at 20:55 pm

Follow-up / Sky Press

Informed sources revealed that Prime Minister Haider Abadi will meet with US President Donald Trump on the 13th of this month.

The source said that "Abadi and Trump, will gather a meeting, on the 13th of this month, to form a government, after the failure of efforts, to form the largest bloc," adding that "Abadi will meet with senior officials in Washington."

The Council of Nub had held an urgent meeting today, and held its meeting in the presence of 172 deputies, and in the presence of Abadi, to discuss the crisis in Basra, did not result from the meeting any solutions or decisions are clear and effective. link

Frank26 » September 9th, 2018

I TOLD YOU !!! !!! !!! LOOK AT YOUR NOTES ............. IMO ............. THERE IS SOMETHING ON TRUMPS DESK ........... REMEMBER??? .............

Salamon69 » September 9th, 2018

Kim Clement prophesied that when things seem at their worst that is when Iraq will EMERGE strong and their will be a shaking in the financial system of the Middle East with the dinar. That seems to be a now moment. Amidst the chaos, the dust will settle, and we will see Iraq shine... As it is the,Lord's plan.

Tinman54 » September 9th, 2018

Could someone help me about what's on Trumps desk? I'm evidently a poor student and note taker. Thanks in advance.

StephenMac63 » September 9th, 2018

Not a poor student at all, just inquisitive and thats good.

We know of the monetary reforms that have been going on in Iraq, we have seen many articles about the IMF and UST assisting Iraq in reconnecting with the world, it is safe to think that what Abadi is getting from Trump are the Keys to the World, approval from UST, WB, IMF, and from Trump himself. In many opinions, Abadi is receiving documentation that allows Iraq to run on its own, in other words, Article 8, which allows lifting of the program rate....which in turns readjusts our rate of 1190 dinar to the dollar to whatever the initial entry rate will be.

At least thats what Im hoping for. IMO, of course

Rich4hyip » September 9th, 2018

that make sense and I like the key from the fabulous four, and Abadi has to come to Washington to have a final talk with trump or get the approval before pushing the button… this could be the fabulous four finally agreed and handing over the key, to the right person, Mr.Abadi…..thank your intelligent mind Stephen.

TSM » September 9th, 2018

From where I sit.... it looks just like the reports say... total confusion... they seem to be ungovernable and don't care a whit about the people they have been elected to represent... This can easily destroy Iraq and our investment... IMO

Leb » September 9th, 2018

I couldn’t disagree more, in my humble opinion. A emergency government can get things done without having to worry about the shenanigans from Parliament. This is a fast track to what we seek.

KBC123 » September 9th, 2018

I agree that in the past few, if any, cared for the people, but I do believe Abadi and Sadr care. Just like here in our own Country, things are changing for the better.

Samson » September 9th, 2018

Abadi: We regret the exploitation of the parliament session for other purposes

8th September, 2018

Prime Minister Haidar al-Abadi said on Saturday that the parliamentary session was exploited for political purposes.

"In spite of clarifying the facts and figures and presenting the decisions of the Council of Ministers before the House of Representatives, which will be reflected positively on the status of the province of Basra and start work," Abadi said in a statement.

He added, "We express our deep regret" to exploit the extraordinary session of the House of Representatives held today, other than the objective that was held for it is to discuss the problem of Basra and government services and measures taken and find solutions in light of our response to the call of His Eminence Mr. Moqtada al-Sadr.

He pointed out that "the session was taken openly as an opportunity to drip and provide new conditions for alliances that form the basis of the next government, despite our appeal to all parties to remove the problem of services to our citizens in Basra on political employment and achieve special political gains and benefits at the expense of the interest of the people."

It is noteworthy that the House of Representatives held an extraordinary session, earlier in the day, on the conditions of the province of Basra in the presence of Prime Minister Haider Abadi and a number of ministers concerned on the crisis. LINK

6 Years imprisonment for the Deputy Secretary General of the Ministry of Defense

9th September, 2018

The Criminal Court for Integrity Cases in Rasafa on Sunday sentenced a six-year prison sentence to three sentences against the former defense minister's former deputy defense minister Ziad al-Qattan, two years after each successive sentence, causing damage to public money.

"The Criminal Court of Integrity considered 3 cases of former Deputy Secretary General of the Ministry of Defense Ziad al-Qattan convicted of irregularities in contracts with companies contracted with the ministry during his tenure," Judge Abdul Sattar Birqdar, spokesman of the Supreme Judicial Council, said in a statement. "He said.

"The violations included three contracts with companies to equip the ministry with light equipment, as well as another contract for military equipment. The third contract included a violation of $ 8 million, 3, 300 and 46 US dollars, including the establishment of a temporary camp for rapid reaction forces in Fallujah."

He added that "the court issued three sentences of imprisonment for two years carried out in succession," noting that "the sentences were issued against the accused in accordance with the provisions of Article 340 of the Penal Code." LINK

WCM » September 9th, 2018

Question in reference to Don's repost #14 it says:

Swift Network

"The Central Bank of Iraq is the first in the Middle East to apply self-recognition to all users of SWIFT network, and the first banks in the region submitted this acknowledgment and received a letter of thanks from SWIFT International and valued the efforts of the Central Bank to secure the environment of foreign remittances and comply with all international standards in remittances"The Central Bank of Iraq works and implements the latest systems and advanced software and surpasses most of the banks in the region a lot of things, and this came with the support of the leadership of the bank and urge the contract with the best international companies that contribute to the development of work mechanisms.

So my question is....I thought the SWIFT SYSTEM was supposed to be on it's way out, that we were all to be moving to the CIPS system...?

Frank, militia man, WS? Anyone have info on this? Thank you!

StephenMac63 » September 9th, 2018

The CIPS service is using SWIFT as per Wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-Border_Inter-Bank_Payments_System

"15 Reasons USN Stories Are Great News!" - One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. aka Swervy McGee

15 Reasons USN Stories Are GREAT NEWS!



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 I have been seeing some USN stories lately and it is a CLEAR sign to me that EVERYTHING we want is right on schedule. The USN is the new Gold Backed currency of the Republic. Here is the latest news on the USN:

"Bank intel, USN" by Geoffrey - 2.25.17

It is so interesting that we are looking for clues all over the place to verify that this top secret World Change over is both REAL and immanent, and yet one single item actually PROVES EVERYTHING! Yes, as the title of this post reveals, it is the USN that tells the whole story and is all the proof we need, that we are actually on track to everything we have been told and promised. Here is how...

#1) USN Means Gold Backed

The fact that the USN has been acknowledged by Banking personnel as well as many others, is PROOF that the New Gold Backed Money is really coming.

#2) Gold Backed Means The World

The fact that there really is new USA Gold Backed Money coming means that all the other countries of the World are going Gold Backed as well since there is no way that we would be the only ones changing.

#3) The World Going Gold Backed Means Equality

If all the countries of the World are Going Gold Backed as well, it only works if their currency values are adjusted to be on par with each other.

#4) World Currencies On Par With Each Other

Having all the World's currencies being adjusted to be on par with each other means that those countries who's currency values are greatly undervalued compared to everyone else are going to be adjusted up, WAY UP, to be on par with the other countries. That MEANS THE GCR IS REAL.

#5) If The GCR is REAL

If the GCR is Real, then anyone who happens to be holding currencies that are greatly undervalued, such as the first basket currencies, will realize a HUGE increase in value when said adjustment happens.

#6) No Double Dipping

Because there is an all go, or none go and a deliberate plan to prevent Double dipping, by reinvesting money from one currency revaluation on the next currency revaluation, they will all go at once. Since all the currencies will go at once, that means that THEY WILL ALL GO, and none of them will be left behind.

#7) Stories of The USN Means Treasury Money

Stories of the USN MEANS that it is our new Treasury that is issuing the money. This means that not only is the Fed Dead, but that the REPUBLIC is Alive!

#8) The Republic Alive Means NESARA

The fact that the Republic is alive and in the process of showing itself, means that NESARA, the new governmental structures are also in the Process as well, since the Republic is based on the new NESARA Principles.

#9) NESARA Means GESARA

The fact that NESARA is coming into action here in the Republic of the United States, means that soon the World will be changing over to GESARA, which is the global version of this same governmental structure and principles.

#10) GESARA Means World Peace

Since GESARA is Coming in to Power all over the World, that means that the World will be at peace from now on and War will no longer be permitted or tolerated by any country in the World.

#11) GESARA & World Peace

GESARA and World Peace also signals multiple trusts that will start paying out Trillions of dollars in many different forms to all the people of the World. These include huge trusts such as the St. Germaine Trust, The Lee Wanta Trust, and many others.

#12) NESARA & GESARA Means New Technologies Released

Another important aspect of the NESARA & GESARA implementation is the release of hidden technologies and health remedies that have been held back by the Cabal. This leads to such things as immediate cures for most medical problems and introduction of free energy devices and anti gravity craft to name a few.

#13) NESARA Means Top Level Arrests & Trials Begin

Another important aspect of the NESARA implementation is the immediate arrests of top Cabal operatives, resignation of all current political positions, and new elections for President and other positions. It also means the resignation from the BAR of all attorneys' and retraining them in Constitutional law.

#14) Bank Awareness Of The USN Means Immanent GCR

The fact that Bank employees are aware of, and acknowledge the USN, means that they have been trained on it, and will be available soon. Additionally, many claim it is in their vaults now and will be released soon.

#15) USN Availability Means CGR

There is no way that the GOLD Backed USN can be distributed, unless the GCR has already happened. If the USN is about to be available, that means the GCR is about to happen.


The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that while USN reports and stories seem to be of little value, they actually PROVE EVERYTHING IS TRUE AND ABOUT TO HAPPEN. The USN availability means World Gold Back GCR, NESARA/GESARA, World Peace, New Technologies and Health remedies, High Level Cabal Arrests and Trials, New Elections, and the Release of countless Trust to the people of the World. In short, when you have Proof of the USN, you have proof of EVERYTHING!

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams

Signed: One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. aka Swervy McGee
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Iraqi Dinar Scam

Iraqi Dinar Scam

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Squirrel Pot Pie Since: Feb 12 414 undisclosed USA	#1 Jun 13, 2013 It has just come to my attention that the "Iraqi Dinar Scam" is now alive and well in Carlsbad. All of my direct family lives there, and my very elderly (but fortunately, very well physically and mentally) mother may be a prime target for this scam, even if by otherwise well-meaning people who have been suckered themselves. I believe this is simply another Ponzi scheme, a pyramid, where (maybe, but not guarantees) a very few "may" see a little of their money returned in the beginning, but virtually all will be dealt a sleight of hand that may very well ruin many of them for the rest of their lives. This kind of fraud abounds everywhere, at all times and in many different disguises, but they're always the same. But what really gets me this time around is that (even if conducted by one of those well-intentioned suckers I mentioned above) is that it is involving people who are attending church and marketing this bogus BS to vulnerable people to people from THEIR VERY OWN CHURCH. I don't care if they are assuring people that their money is 100% refundable (which would be a surprise of the greatest magnitude even if THAT was true). I care about the fact that whether a scam artist is knowingly bilking the vulnerable or it's just a case of the person marketing the scam being one of those well-intentioned suckers who has himself or herself acting for the betterment of those who might just be as (I hate to say this) stupid as themself. Have any of you heard of this (it's apparently been around a long, long time), or otherwise been solicited to participate in this charade? I would like to know, and mainly want to alert ALL of you to the probability you're looking to get bilked. There is a lot of truth to that old adage "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is". I've attached only one link of many that tells you more about this. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jayadkisson/2012/... Meanwhile for those of you who are interested, I am selling shares in a grasshopper ranch that, for a mere $100.00 per share, is guaranteed to bring you a return of 1200% in just the first three months, with even greater returns assured afterward (and my guarantee to you is that your investment is 110% refundable if not satisfied). For those of you interested, kindly PM me so we can discuss this in a private, confidential environment. There is a per person limit of 1000 shares.
Really Carlsbad, NM	#2 Jun 24, 2013 It is not a scam or Ponzi scheme to invest in another country's money, as long as you understand that the returns vary & may not be as big as one would like, as well as the risks of loosing all together. That one is taking the same chances as one would on Wall Street. Any investment is never, I repeat NEVER, a sure thing, it really is the same as gambling. The scam however comes in when the investors are promised a sure fire large return within x amount of time, guaranteeing they will become over night millionaires! If at anytime someone tries to get you to invest without thoroughly explaining the risks, & only promising return, STAY AWAY FROM IT! In short is getting folks to invest in Iraqi Dinar illegal? NO! Is it being done in an ethical & legal manor? If done as u are describing NO! If you are misunderstanding how its being done then you will feel guilty for slandering the one doing the selling, if you are right then thanks for the warning! And lastly befor doing any investing check with a qualified investment expert, NEVER take friends,family,(remember they are the worst as you never see it coming from them or want to believe they would do you wrong) or do gooders word for it if you do your only begging to be robbed!
Squirrel Pot Pie Since: Feb 12 414 undisclosed USA	#3 Jul 1, 2013 Really wrote: It is not a scam or Ponzi scheme to invest in another country's money, as long as you understand that the returns vary & may not be as big as one would like, as well as the risks of loosing all together. That one is taking the same chances as one would on Wall Street. Any investment is never, I repeat NEVER, a sure thing, it really is the same as gambling. The scam however comes in when the investors are promised a sure fire large return within x amount of time, guaranteeing they will become over night millionaires! If at anytime someone tries to get you to invest without thoroughly explaining the risks, & only promising return, STAY AWAY FROM IT! In short is getting folks to invest in Iraqi Dinar illegal? NO! Is it being done in an ethical & legal manor? If done as u are describing NO! If you are misunderstanding how its being done then you will feel guilty for slandering the one doing the selling, if you are right then thanks for the warning! And lastly befor doing any investing check with a qualified investment expert, NEVER take friends,family,(remember they are the worst as you never see it coming from them or want to believe they would do you wrong) or do gooders word for it if you do your only begging to be robbed! I was very polite in suggesting that the person in question may very well have been duped into believing so completely in what he was selling (although I didn't say I doubt it is true, which I do). No slander at all. This week is when the "payoff" is due. Let's sit back and watch the money flow back into the hands of the "investors" at the sums reputed to be. I do agree with this from your post above: NEVER take friends,family,(remember they are the worst as you never see it coming from them or want to believe they would do you wrong) or do gooders word for it if you do your only begging to be robbed! Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/city/carlsbad-nm/T... Somebody is about to be fleeced.
Question Casa Grande, AZ	#4 Jul 1, 2013 Can you name the church please? CCF? maybe? Judged:
Really Carlsbad, NM	#5 Jul 2, 2013 You mean rv? There can be no promise of any certainty of when a country's monetary system will rv. The advisors can look at what is going on and predict a possible date, but to make a promise of certainty, not possible. Especially with a country that is still in internal turmoil . I read the article you linked to. & it mentioned the investors relating the Iraqi dinar to Kuwaits dinar. The difference between the 2 was Kuwait was an invaded country that was more than willing to get back to peaceful times and rebuild its stability, so far Iragi shows no signs of even being willing to do so. This comparison is like milk & water. Milk has vitamins & calcium, water not so much. Ie if one is using this as a reason to believe in a substantial return, they may have to be prepared to wait a while.as with all investing patience is the key, you never sell of your shares while low you wait until they rebound! Common law of investing. Of course being wise enough to study your options and not jump at just anything is the main key. Never leap before looking you' ll end up regretting the out cone! Ie when investing use common sense not someone's word or that so called all knowing gut feeling!
bet my life Tucumcari, NM	#6 Jul 2, 2013 My edlery parents are saying they bet there life that they are going to be millionairs..two weeks ago..they dont have alot of money but are waiting on pins and needles to cash in on their dinars!!They invested two years ago and still believe in it..They are sitting by there computer daily to watch for when they need to go cash in...they have their clothes packed and in the car and stopped doing much at all because they are waiting..anyday to be Rich!Now if they arent being scammed they sure are investing alot of their precious last years of their life waiting on this..It makes me angry that people pray on the elderly like this..yes im sure currency trading is legit..but these gurus are making them promises that has litterly put there lives on hold..It is sad and I cant seem to change there mind no matter what I tell them or show them warnings about this SCAM!!
NicolasKL Lovelock, NV	#7 Jul 2, 2013 It's not a pyramid or ponzi scheme, but it's definitely a scam. Buying the currency of a foreign country isn't a scam, but paying 20-50% plus premiums for it because someone (either a well meaning ignoramous, or an unscrupulous con man) told you a bunch of nonsense about it increasing in value by tens of thousands of percent most definitely IS a scam. There's absolutely zero legitimate reasons the Iraqi currency would undergo a large increase in value. It's incredibly unlikely it'll even go up 50% over the next decade, let alone the 100,000% in the next week that most of these fools believe. Iraq's currency is worth right about what it should be. There are two VERY simple ways to prove this: 1. Divide their foreign reserves (80 billion USD in value at most) by their money supply (M2, around 75 trillion dinar) and you get about 0.001. Right around what their currency is worth. That isn't a coincidence. 2. Take the TOTAL value of Iraqs currency (their 75 trillion M2 multiplied by the value of each dinar, 0.0086) and you come up with about 65 billion dollars. Now look at their GDP. It's around 120 billion dollars. That's about a .5 ratio of M2 to GDP. Now look at that same ratio for neighboring countries. They'll all be about the same, somewhere between .4 and .7 or so. Iraqs country is worth right about what it should be. Sure, it could go up 10 or 15 or 20%. That will leave most people, that paid spreads of 20 or 30 or 50%+, high and dry. The chance of the dinar increasing in real value by even 100% in the short term is zero.
Money Maker Carlsbad, NM	#8 Jul 3, 2013 I would give a week's pay to a hottie who tried to scam me.....in the nude!!!! Money well spent!
Squirrel Pot Pie Since: Feb 12 414 undisclosed USA	#9 Jul 4, 2013 Question wrote: Can you name the church please? CCF? maybe? Out of respect for my family members and their opinions of the individual with whom they dealt, I am not at liberty to disclose the names of any parties. I honestly don't know if this "investment opportunity" goes all the way to the top of the church in question, or how many church members have been approached or have "closed on a transaction". My family seems to have very long term ties to a particular party who has been transacting these exchanges, and appear to have an unshakable faith in him. But I'm happy that, although slow, this thread has resulted in a few well-reasoned views - and helped expose something that everyone should think long and hard about before committing themselves should they find themselves approached with this "overnight millionaire" hustle. It may prove very helpful to google "iraqi dinar guru" and such who are at least in part behind this/these scheme/s, and to google "iraqi dinar scams" and "Vietnamese dong scams". There's some heartless people out there, folks!
curious Fuquay Varina, NC	#10 Aug 21, 2013 a lot of people are going to be crushed by the hammer of liars and scammers...Don't invest more than you can afford to loose..I myself bought a few hundred dollars worth but everyday I wonder was I scammed by the dinargurus..If it happens all well and good if not so what I didn't rob the bank to get the money..lol
Youu Lovington, NM	#11 Aug 22, 2013 curious wrote: a lot of people are going to be crushed by the hammer of liars and scammers...Don't invest more than you can afford to loose..I myself bought a few hundred dollars worth but everyday I wonder was I scammed by the dinargurus..If it happens all well and good if not so what I didn't rob the bank to get the money..lol Screw the dinar you need to invest in the Yuan.
Hussein Ali Burton, TX	#13 Sep 4, 2013 I will not say it is or it is not, In 2008 was 1 USD exchange for 1260 ID / 2012 1 USD exchange for 116 ID in just four years,so it is not scame, and when they revaluate the ID they will not give just one month and any one can just take his IDs and go to the north of Iraq and exchange them ,The gold companies for sure they will not like invest in Iraqi dinar, no one gave good reason to not invest in Iraqi dinar, Iraq has the second oil reserve in the world sooner or later the Iraqi dinar gose back to 1ID exchange for 3.25 USD and don't tell me that it was because Saddam wanted that, because he was buying things like weapon for this exchange from the big economy contries like Russa and USA, it is slow but it gonna happen, ther is a lote reason they dont wanna people know about that like the gold people, rich people stay rich and other stay just money machine makers, if we compare why and why not we found the reasons for invest in Iraqi dinar really strong against why not who keep saying the Iraqi dinars dealers notregistered, Mean yes they are dealer and they go around stuff to make more money like cars dealers or big bank they do this in hidden ways, if somone ask why the big banks don't invest in ID it easy to find the answer.
Danny San Jose, CA	#14 Sep 12, 2013 Exchange rate is 1166 dinar to 1 US dollar today 9/12/2013 it is a scam. Hussein Ali wrote: I will not say it is or it is not, In 2008 was 1 USD exchange for 1260 ID / 2012 1 USD exchange for 116 ID in just four years,so it is not scame, and when they revaluate the ID they will not give just one month and any one can just take his IDs and go to the north of Iraq and exchange them ,The gold companies for sure they will not like invest in Iraqi dinar, no one gave good reason to not invest in Iraqi dinar, Iraq has the second oil reserve in the world sooner or later the Iraqi dinar gose back to 1ID exchange for 3.25 USD and don't tell me that it was because Saddam wanted that, because he was buying things like weapon for this exchange from the big economy contries like Russa and USA, it is slow but it gonna happen, ther is a lote reason they dont wanna people know about that like the gold people, rich people stay rich and other stay just money machine makers, if we compare why and why not we found the reasons for invest in Iraqi dinar really strong against why not who keep saying the Iraqi dinars dealers notregistered, Mean yes they are dealer and they go around stuff to make more money like cars dealers or big bank they do this in hidden ways, if somone ask why the big banks don't invest in ID it easy to find the answer.
Danny San Jose, CA	#15 Sep 12, 2013 It is a scam , exchange rate is 1166 Dinar to 1 US dollar according to the Central Bank of Iraq official website 9/12/2013

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/carlsbad-nm/TV6H11LE93IP1EJT9

Bruce D Call Notes 5/24/16

PinkRoses:  Bruce call starting

Bruce: Doing roll call Sue, Steven, Josef, Robert, Bob, Kent

Bruce call: Bruce: Big stands for Bless Ideas Group, came up with it 4 1/2 years ago. We are in a good place to take off and run with this blessing I think. We going to be in a very expectant mood for possible things to happen.

Bruce call: Call being opened up in prayer

Bruce: We dont do dates and rates on the call. Just preparing folks to expect more than what they thought. I am highly expectant.



Mangelo:  YOSEF: LOTS OF FALSE INFO. - YOU WILL SEE RATE ON SCREEN AND IF THAT IS ENOUGH THAT IS FINE - HOWEVER IF LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING IN COMMM. - HEART TO HELP PEOPLE -

THERE ARE PROGRAMS AND RATES HIGHER AND AT THAT TIME IT IS GOOD TO PRESENT GOALS THINGS TO ACCOMPLISH DOWN THE ROAD - 20 YEARS, 30 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD - THEY WILL LOOK INTO YOUR HEART AND SEE IF YOU SEEK SERVICE - THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO MOVE UP WITH WHAT THEY ARE OFFERING

Mangelo:  YOSEF: OPEN YOUR HEART TO THAT REALITY - WE ARE SPEAKING TODAY - REALLY IMPORTANT - BE OPEN TO THE GIFT OF THESE RATES WHICH ARE TO FUND HUMANITY - NOT JUST A TRANSACTION - IF THAT IS ALL YOU WANT TAKE THE SCREEN RATE AND GO

BJ: #14 just under 6000 ctrs ready and open till end of May… Now till the end of May satisfies the timeline. We've broken lots of windows so far.

BJ: #15 all military assets are deployed for your protection. Yosef: concerns for security so systems have been put inside for security.

BJ: #16 Local police and Natl Guard to protect redeemers

BJ: #17 Expect exchanges to begin in brick & mortar branches (public) first week of June. Redemp. Ctrs for groups

BJ:  Bruce: internet group about 200k; public may be 30m

intel is done

BJ: Yosef says it will come when it comes. What you hold is real. The GCR and commitment is real. It's when not IF

Intel highlights from The Big Call Thursday Night 5-19-16

Bruce/Sue - God is the light in everything that you create

Bruce - We are jumping into a new life this weekend. Adopt new habits

14- all is well, and thank you to all intel providers. a whole list of people that I want to shout out to...
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Bruce #14 - All is Well. Thank you intel providers. There are so many! Christopher Watkins (the actor?? - his voice sounds familiar)

josef--- if you don't think we have lost it after so many calls, I am going to go to the corner to sell bananas.... we have gone bonkers

Yosef - if they don't RV this weekend, I will sell bananas on the street. I'm also selling my currency!! LOL!!

Bruce tried to impersonate Marlon Brando and now Inspector Clouseau

josef- someone needs to pray us out, we are getting ridiculous

Bruce/Yosef - help as many people as you can. Do your part

Bruce - hope to celebrate on Tuesday

Bruce - looking forward to a great weekend

Bruce - Pastor Steven closing prayer

Chat From Generals64. Dinar Guru's still carry on the tradition?

The Generals64 Group claims that they don't do "Rates & Dates", but here is a thread that says otherwise. Do you see all the hype that the other Guru's are still using today?

Posted 22 March 2012 - 09:02 PM

[size=16][generals64] ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:...Hang on to your seats as you're going to get it all right here and now...CAn you REally Handle it??????



[generals64] #1. Wells Fargo America as agreed to work with the Iraqi Dinar when it happens...confirmations from all over the United States....

[generals64] #2....$6.38 has been on the screens at Chase bank for 2 Weeks...I wouldn't and I couldn't tell you guys as i want to make sure of what it is...it's is called a "Marker" number....Was there this morning at *;00 my time (CST)...then went 1`- 1 per the Programmer we talk with. every dang day.

[generals64] #3. Lady LeeLee is the same one that put a voice commanded typo on one of our sources and didn't tell him and we hadn't verified it and she said oh, I'm sorry I just told my friends...I... amd...NOT her friend and I got a copy of it...I was livid and asked to be quiet

[generals64] #4....This morning...TODAY...we talked to dinar UK and the CBi (before they closed....if you want the ladies name let me know....you can't handle it folks...They said it ain't a happeneing for some time...Iraq has NOT released it yet.

[generals64] #5.....The rates of 23.10 to 3.68 are everywhere and No a single Swinging soul knows it...No one as it has to be calculated through the asset division for their currency value....Go figure

[generals64] #6. I told someone everything I had heard two days ago (In Confidence) his story was my family is leaving me blah blah blah...Yesterday Hammerman Printed everything word for word....

[generals64] #7...Today...same person...same scenario....Folks...I don't tell all I hear cause it would make your life crumble. Our sources are real and not a bunch of old men scratching themselves in places they shouldn't....I have busted my Ass to make this be right but I', beginning to feel like SteveI when he got tired of being bashed on his own site.

[generals64] #8....Leave Studley alone...he is trying with all his heart...he too makes mistakes ...I know no one else does...But, if you keep listening to their "Junk"...you're going to be Broke...One of the providers has 17,000 emails attached to his IP address...wonder why????

[generals64] #9...this is so dang stupid...following puppy dogs...these people come on,. they tell you a good story and bam they are the messiah and then another comes and then Bam...I do not have to have this to make a living as I have already made mine....I want it to happen just like you do but come on....

[generals64] #10...No Whales cashing out anywhere...NOTICE NONE anywhere....I have been invited to go and have yet to even see the people...Names don't need to be told as they and you know who they are....

[generals64] #11. If you want story book rhymes...go to the library and throw the dinar in the trash....If you want to know the truth then study it...Don't count on ANYONE to handle your investments period...Never in Life....

[generals64] #12. This site and its owner has been the most level during this whole thing....I had a bad thing happen to me when the shout room was here...I then got my cell phone hacked (along with kcmana) but caught that fool...he is one of the gurus yopu all follow...Remember this,....i have so many friends from years past in the three letter agencies that you couldn't begin to imagine...Those giving me a hard time need to be careful with what they post as from now on all bets are off...and it will all be told straight up in this room unless Cool Clown Fish kicks me off and bans me...

[generals64] #13....Hammerman's Father asked me to cut him some slack as he was afraid it was afeecting him personally...Hammerman told me one night he had told some lies but he felt it was his responsibility to keep the rooms level and calm...

[generals64] #14....Now...when is theis going to happen...I was told this morning at 10:00 am...it didn't...I was told at 2:00 pm....it didn't...I was told whales all over the country had been called by Wells Fargo...they weren't...what else do you want to knwop cause tonight I'll tell you all I know and it is not pretty folks....

[generals64] The banking deal we have been working on is with Wells Fargo...We talk EVERY DAY...they are ready and are willing to make us a deal that will scald your grandkids....they want the business...My girls waNT NOTHING AND IF I were treated the way they have been I would have told everyone to kiss my backside......If you treat your friends (you know who I'm talking to) this way then I don't need you and you (you know who you are) will be the last person in the world to cash your dinar out...Promise...I have held my integrity to the highest until tonight...but tonight folks...ask your questions

[generals64] I am Generals64 and I approve this message.

[generals64] If you guys will stop the board and don't pm me...I am calming down but, I'll answer them all...and, i am a big boy...but I am really upset...Guys/Gals...we need to financially help CCF with this site....one way or the other..

[generals64] Fireproof:...Look...I have held the closet I can to keep from telling the BS...Even Bookings will tell you guys that....The truth is not known by anyone...I mean NO one...

[generals64] MAVERICK :...yes it would...some can do more...some can't do any....If we could actually stop the board one question at a time I'll really explain it all

Q & A Session:
[Cheesehead] generals64 SO from what you posted... It ain't happening for a while... because you said that you heard Iraq has not released... So when do you think sir?
[generals64] Cheesehead Cheesehead Cheesehead :...the CBI told us yesterday they were upset with the us as they (USA) were making their country look bad...and that they had nothing to do with it...WE Called the CBI FOLKS for you....then this morning we called a lady with dinar UK (Lori) and she said it was completely in the hands of the UST...She then told us that as long as there were auctions they would not be RV'ing....However...Lori (same lady ) said yesteday that they were expecting this to happen any time now.................Truth I'll give you their phone numbers...The guy at the CBI was put on a three way call

[mammat] ok....It was posted that Studley had already negotiated with WF at cbi +2. What happened
[generals64] mammat;...Studley is a good guy...I have already growled at him as he is talking too much ...there are people who expect everything said to be true....Actually, we (studley) 10%...he then said a dollar but He told me he was working for the entire Bank Spread....for Everyone....Everyone is EVERYONE in and on every site...There was a rumor about him a couple of days ago and I got on him pretty hard and he came back pretty hard...The guy who had him invetigated called and apologized...people make mistakes...The rate we heard today/tonite...23.10 govt. gets $5.00 and the bank gets $2.00 and we get the rest...I also heard $14.38 was showing on Chase bank Screen...No One knows so don't listen to it....I trust Studley until he proves me wrong...Anyone with a Great Dane named "FIfi" is OK in my books.

[joyjoyjoyjoy] Hi and THANK you! Can you tell me how cash-in groups work? Does everyone physically come to the bank at the same time? If so, what security measures would/should be taken? Sure appreciate your caring spirit!
[CoolClownFish] You will not be going to the bank with anyone else. you simply tell them who you are your with this group and your name and you can cash in at the predetermiled rate with that package.
8:33 PM [CoolClownFish] answered that one for ya

[MAVERICK] this is for General , my question is if your that connected then why cant you give us a proximate rate and day , or what is really going on
8:35 PM [generals64] Real Hold up????...I was told it was our Treasury department...First...no Gag orders anywhere...the Ust people laugh everytime I say that....as a matter of fact that's their standing joke.....The guy at Chase told us that everyday at 1:59 the 6.38 rate on the IQD goes back to Zero....Today he told us he was unable to even get to the screens until 3:00 pm...EST...Kinda Strange....The people in CHINA we are talking with said this should have been done 4 weeks ago....I can't figure it out and they can't figure it out...There were some Virus's found up to about 2 weeks ago but they are fixed

[gr8teth] What is the % possibility of the rv going to our elections in Nov?
8:35 PM [generals64] Rumor and Rumor only...We could see this tomorrow...Maybe with me blowing up something will be done.
8:36 PM [generals64] gr8th:...no way

[ZMAN2011] any truth to the statement that the U S is being punidhed for the hold up by being forced to pour in moneo from threasury to reach rate levels? ty
[generals64] ZMAN2011 :...I heard that but just before I found out I had been betrayed and I haven't check it out

[eleanor] generals64 I think the timing is more important to us all than the rate could you elaborate on your statement of it not happening for a while?
[generals64] Precious (elanor)....the entire thing should have happened this country seems to need the money...However, I was really told the whole thing was outta IRAQs hand...and in the hands of the IMF...The IMF has signed off and released it is what i was told...and folks this person is too wel connected...and he might see this so I can't say.

(bookings) generals can you confirm what I hjeard that the rv is happening tonight and the rate is $22.00

8:40 PM [generals64] bookings...i have heard the $22.00 and the 23.10 and the $6.38 and the 14.38 and teh $1236 rate for days...I told you that....But I don't know about it happeneing tomorrow..I sure hope so...YOU bookings know I talk with a Wealth mangement person with Wells Fargo almost everyday....and she is not seeing anything...Folks,...she is sharp as a tack

[beachdreaming] i would like to know if Geitner or Obama is truly holding it back.. who can force them to get it done?
[generals64] beachdreaming...I really think it is Roscoe cause he only got 7 milkbones to 1...No, I don't think it is O or Giethner....this is more than that.

[generals64] I'm not sure about the intent that has come forward and said We (I) are fluffing our feathers etc....just for the klnowledge in this room a...and i am going to be flogged by kcmand and 4th time...But, We have over 3 Tillion dinar to work with...do you think we carry a big enough stick...that is with a T folks...not aB orM


[eleanor] How can we help you, phone calls, moniterr sites, emails, whatever?
[generals64] dlenor...the people we deal with used to trust the other GURUS and other site leaders...they hav ebeen burned so bad they won't talk with anyone...this room has had a bad name of Bashers jumping on people andalso everything said comes in here and people think its true...Think about it...do you really believe some other GURU has a 747 on the Tarmac Idling?

[Javabean] If the rate is 22 and the gov gets 5 and banks get 2, then will we still have to pay taxes or will the gov's % be enough for them??

[generals64] javabean...i have heard so many reports on taxes...it cost $2,500.00 to gt a written ruling from the IRS on this...My personal Tax attorney is $850.00 an hour (he's good) and I don't want to spend the money yet

[LINDI] Is it possible that the Bush family is holding this back?
[generals64] no on the Bushes holding it back...

[Lojack6T] Isnt it possible its just being held up for maximum impact to benefit Iraq during the arab summit and the rest is just a conspiracy theory?
[generals64] Lojack6T;...I think we could see it quickly...I will never give a date or rate...but today so much Smoke was pumped out and everyone fell for it...EVEN I did...

[texanone67] question...does this mean no toaster?
[generals64] I am going to have more toasters tahn Wal-Mart

[Shabibi] How much of all this might just be a bunch of BS and smoke? Not really sure what started this rant and speaking of the truth but I like it!
[generals64] Shabiibi;..ther is NO BS in what I tell you or anyone else...You ahve come at me hard more than once and that is why I don't answer your foolish and mundane questions...By the way Thursday is my favorite day...Why because I met my wife on a Thursdy.Now Dude,...What have you got?...if nothing then sit back and joiin the team or leave the site...
[generals64] Shabibi :..i'm sorry..I am so upset over what has happened and what is being said to the people of this ivestment and please accept myy apology...i was out of line

[righteouswrath] Generals 64... Tex said that you were going to wear a speedo and Roscoe was wearing sunglasses to the barbeque... is that true?
[generals64] Precious :...if that will bring the RV fastr I'll do it..it ain't going to be pretty

[joyjoyjoyjoy] General Thank you for your caring spirit!! Wish you'd tell who betrayed you so we can get 'em for ya! Honestly I would like to know so I don't take stock in what they're saying if posted. Thx for all you share!! You're one of the good guys in my book.
[generals64] My phones are blowing up....I have taken my Blood pressure medicvine and Roscoe is sleeping right now....You guys ask who betrayed you....They know who they are as they are in the room right now....Aren't you dude/

[generals64] I was to have gone to Dallas and cash out cause I too am an Oklahoma SOONERFAN...but he today won't return my calls....Did you know Blaino and Hammerman were banned from other sites?...did you know Blaino Bragged about hacking Okies name...Did you know he laughed about hacking Foghorn's name...hmmm...I have a short call give me a second...hopefully it will answer some stuff...hold on

[generals64] and hey guys/Gals lojack6T is NOT lojak...He is a friend of the family.

[Shabibi] So of all the other "gurus" who share info who would you trust most and who the least to give us a bearing on how to look at their info
[generals64] shabibi:...I owe you this one....Gurus?hmmmm Hmmmm BWM/Tex/Cap1....Studley..Wileymorgan...(really)....Freeway Bill...and SteveI
[generals64] Shabibi:...Dan and Tony seem to be trying real hard now...i don't believe in conspiiracy theorys from anyone and hard to reacll is a good...good friend of mine...

[whitfi10] Was there a call earlier? Generals64 do you host calls? Just wondering if calls really accomish anything?
[generals64] whitfi10 :...calls don't do anything but add fodder to the fire...No one has been 100% right yet....

[generals64] Folks....the Thing that bothers me a lot is the is no one or any law that requires my two gitrls to do anything for anyone...


[generals64] real good call...
[generals64] Precious ;...could be even beter
[generals64] arabic is bad for me
[generals64] still on

[generals64] OK...Wiley morgan has some dude from Iraq who is so dang excited aboaut something neither one of us can understand him...He is trying to get a translator and will let me know if he does....Wiley did two or three tours over there remember that....

[generals64] Guys/Gals;;;;;Please fogive my antics...Drama is not much of my life and I apologize only to this room as this seems to be family...Some one just told me something I had told him and it hit me right between the eyes...."We can save em all and we can help only those that will let us..."...I hope you are one of them as my heart goes to all of you even the Jerk that used me....But, i want to apologize for my actions as they were uncalled for but, from now on you guys get it all up front...

[generals64] I thought I had more class and integrity than I showed tonight....

[FIREPROOF] generals64 we thank you... but be prepared for the rats to take it to recaps.... it will eventually end up there.
[generals64] FIREPROOF :..it will cause so much dissention...they can find me...I know where they are.

[generals64] the bank deal we have is a good one...Good enough johnny asked if he could be on it....HmmmmmmmOur bankers talk to us anytime we need tpo..

[Austin-Powers-For-PM] generals64 So if I understand you correctly, your CBI contact is saying to forget about an RV anytime soon. Correct?
[generals64] Austin-Powers-For-PM :...I don't have a contact at the CBI...We called them on the phone and one day it was ready the next day..no no...so who knows????

[generals64] if you guys get a chance...and he'll talk....live4the brand knows a lot also

[generals64] you guys...Betrayal and just from not verifying it cost me my sanity for a few minutes...maybe hours...i need a beer.

[Shabibi] generals64 Sanity is over rated..beer is rated MUCH higher!
[generals64] Shabibi :...yep...

[Mauiboy] generals64: Only one??? LOL!!!
[generals64] Mauiboy :I don't drink

[eleanor] generals64 btw what brand of beer do you drink?
[generals64] eleanor :...that is Kidney stone medicine but it is Bud Light

[generals64] If you can stop the site I'll explain what we have been doing on the banking situation...it's really very simple

[generals64] the banks want all your money...All...they really just want you and i to get a reasonable amount and they get the rest...Studley adn 4th time are working with Wells Fargo...Wells Fargo wants the numbers we have so, they seemed to desire to give us all they legally can...so what the names and such was for was to give the bank so they could logistically put things together and service us the best way possible...for instance No WF in Oklahoma....I was offered a free airplane ticket to a de larue machine...No, I'll go to Texas>...Studley and his business partner are and have been working on this for some time...they are financial people...me, I'm a dime Store Manager.....

[generals64] What should happen is (hypothetical only )...say it happened tonight...if you went to the bank right now you would get the tellers rate and a thank you very much....But, We have this so close to being finished...girls are real good and so is 4th time and OKCBulldog and .live 4the brand....that we can push our button and send them names etc.,,,they can in turn issue a code that you as a MIG Dinar Holder can go to the Private Wealth person and tell them what you waNT And who you are...they will recognize the code number and your name...If you give the code to your cousin Billy Bob and he is not on the list he will be sent over to the teller and get the teller rate....Now, the beter rate is within their Private banker division...there is a certain dollar (USD) value that you must deposit...probably everyone in here is qualified...Even Roscoe is....then they do the paperwork which you probably haven't done and send you to the teller with your code and an appointment to discuss your wealth management...

[generals64] Make the appointment folks and go to it....if you think you are smarter than these people in finances your probably wrong....they are licesenced adn avialbe...there are programs taht you can get involved with like the rich boys are and let your money work for you...so that you don't have to work for money...does that make sense???and, it's that simple...but, without your name and the code number you'll not get the extra...nothing big and EVERYONE should be treated the same..don't you think????and, me and my group of kids are not making anything on it period...but i sure would like a new toaster....ask the other sites to tell you what they have in store...Oh yeah the other banks will follow suit...they want your money ...study Fractional Banking and you'll see.

[generals64] Fractional banking...????? Google it...get a case of beer and start reading..you'll still not understand it but you'll have fun trying...

[wisegrysqrl1] generals64 when you say our name do you mean our screen name or our real name?
[generals64] wisegrysqrl1 ;...they won't take your screen name on a deposit slip...Promise you that...

[joyjoyjoyjoy] generals64 Are you saying we'll get the same rates Studley is working on? Are bank packages the same thing as group cash-ins? Still unclear on that. thx!
[generals64] joyjoyjoyjoy :...Studley is doing the stuff for us....I talk with him e

[king] Generals64 do u believe a14. Rate could exist IYO ?????????????????????
[generals64] king yes

[Florida] Shabibi Yup. But I thought fractional banking was going away with the new Basel III... anybody know?
[generals64] Florida Fracational Banking is a way of life....the banks are able to sell their deposits nightly with it...your money never stops being used...24 hours a day and 365 days a year

[generals64] I promise not to blow up like that agin folks...not my style....even embrssed to myself right now...When you get over 150 calls aday and about 35 of them daily are smart aleck pranks...your tension is developed

[wisegrysqrl1] generals64 were you saying no Rv anytime soon earlier?
[generals64] wisegrysqrl1 :...ask me that tomorrow night[/size]




[size=16][generals64] If you guys will do what I made texanone67 do you'll be a little less stressed.....take the dustiest book in your house (The Bible to some of you) and read and live John 19:20....you'll thank me many times as she has....Promise from the bottom and depth of my heart....I had a guy tell me to listen and find the darkest part of your heart and liten to what God says at that point.....I did, and I have....this same guy was a convicted Morderer and doing life....and from nowhere paroled...He died of cance a while bak...miss him a lot...[/size]

39 Signs the Global Elite’s Ship is Sinking

39 Signs the Global Elite’s Ship is Sinking

Let’s take a look at some of the major stories that have occurred in the last few months. Piecing the puzzle together, we see that the jig is up and the events surrounding it are growing in size and speed.




3rd October 2015

The Final Word

This revolution WILL NOT be televised.


http://wakeup-world.com/2015/10/03/39-signs-the-global-elites-ship-is-sinking/

Kim Clement on Dinar-- Watch - Out of the Bitter, Something Sweet

I'm surprised this hasn't been taken down, as it's in violation of TNT rule #2[b].[/b]

Joejaboah

For some encouragement, watch Kim Clement's prophecy given on July 18th. Go to KimClement.com; select the July 18th broadcast; at minute #14, he talks about the dinar. At minute #37, he delivers the prophecy. It's just a few minutes.....well worth your time!

Here is the LINK to KIM CLEMENTS latest http://kimclement.com/watch.php?id=071815Den1500b

Bank Story #84

How can they know exactly how many people are exchanging every day?  What happens if your banker is slow and #14,000 comes in to their respective bank and finishes their exchange before you do? And is it 14,000 per bank brand or is it total across all major banks??   

As usual Tonys stupid revelations create more questions, for those of us that use our brain, than it answers.