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my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 08:09:47 AM »
My brother reconnected with a female friend from grade school about 9 months ago and they are going to get married in May 2018. She is a nice girl with a good heart. However, she is really excited about the Iraqi Dinar RV (re-evaluation) that is going to happen within the next 3-6 months (according to her). 

She pretty much brain washed my brother into buying into this idea. My brother has a 4 year degree in Business Entrepreneurship. He is all about the high risk and high reward type of thing. He tried and failed a few MLM businesses over the last 5-10 years. She graduated high school. They are both 36. 

However, this type of business scheme is a little bit of a stretch for my brother, but not entirely uncommon. 

My brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my birthday last June and for Christmas. He also bought it for my wife and 1 year old son. We have about 400,000 of Iraqi Dinar, which I think is about 325 US dollars. He is giving me a hard sell to buy some for myself or I could miss out on some big profits of 100 to 1, when it re-evaluates. 
 
The best article I could find out about it is below. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jayadkisson/2012/07/30/you-cant-fix-stupid-the-iraqi-dinar-scam-lives/#3f398ae3150b

1) Any chance that I could politely tell my brother to stop buying me this crap?

2) Any chance that I could politely tell my brother to stop buying it for himself? 

3) How do the sellers make money? Do they just give the buyer a poor exchange rate?

4) What is the best way to convert my Iraqi Dinar back into US currency? 

Thank you.
« [i]Last Edit: December 27, 2017, 01:35:31 PM by clarkfan1979[/i] »



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #1 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 12:32:17 PM »
Good luck getting him to change his mind...

As for converting them to US dollars, ask your bank/credit union. There is usually one bank in the area that specializes in currency. In my area (Salt Lake City) it is Zion’s Bank. Call first. 

Good Luck




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #2 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM »
Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?

That not being the case, here's my thinking, for what it's worth (which should be very little, since, as admitted above, I have zero familiarity with the topic): If there's even a small chance of the "100 to 1" valuation, why not hold onto the stuff for now, just for fun? 

As for your questions:

1) Good luck with that. Forbes is well-known and as far as I know has a good reputation; could you send him that article?

2) See (1) above.

3 & 4) No effing clue. 



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #3 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:22:33 PM »
So when the Iraqis lop off a couple of zeroes off the currency, you'll basically be left with monopoly money.

The old banknotes obviously cease to be legal tender, with new ones issued in replacement.

People are still falling for Zimbabwe money scams. Looks like the scammers are expanding their repertoire...



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #4 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:37:20 PM »
Quote from: Miss Piggy on December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM

Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?

That not being the case, here's my thinking, for what it's worth (which should be very little, since, as admitted above, I have zero familiarity with the topic): If there's even a small chance of the "100 to 1" valuation, why not hold onto the stuff for now, just for fun? 

As for your questions:

1) Good luck with that. Forbes is well-known and as far as I know has a good reputation; could you send him that article?

2) See (1) above.

3 & 4) No effing clue. 




I modified the topic. Thank you for the suggestion.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #5 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:59:24 PM »
On a side note, don't lend them money, and don't let them know how much you have. Just in case.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #6 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 02:07:08 PM »
Oh, the glorious Christmas gift of ENTERTAINMENT!   ClarkFan1979, so sorry you had to be the conduit for this pile of chuckles.  At least he is giving to you, not (so far) trying to get you to buy his wares, as so often happens in MLMs.  In my own mind, I will classify him as Kindhearted Bro until further notice.

Re your questions:
1. Of course you can tell him, but why rain on his parade?  He is not going to learn from you, only from experience, if at all.  He will, however, feel the love or disdain in your response.  Tell him you admire his bold spirit, and ask him if he's going to take you to Acapulco or Dubai when his dinars revalue.

2. See 1.  

3. I was wondering that myself.  I can only assume they sell above the exchange rate, or sell counterfeits, or sell the old notes that have been replaced by new ones when the Iraqi government lopped three zeroes off a few years ago (I read that Forbes article).  Best guess: selling the valueless old notes at the price of the new notes.  Great margins, plus they can appear to be giving zero markup.

4. Exchange it for Bitcoin!  Bwahaha, my whole response was just to make this one brief joke.  

Quiet times here, hope this offered a shred of amusement.  In all seriousness, I once had a friend whose financial schemes ranged from wild failure to just being broke on a regular basis.  The choice was to enjoy to his merry ways at the price of observing his failures, or block him off and wonder what was happening.  I chose to enjoy his merry ways.  Even more so, a relative is someone you don't want to block off unless staying connected is actively harmful.  Good luck getting rid of the bills or coins.  And having lost a relative or two in recent year, treasure your brother for who he is, even if it's not (fortunately!!) who you are.   Cheers.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #7 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 02:47:28 PM »
Quote from: Miss Piggy on December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM

Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?



Yes, huge disappointment. :p

+1 to exchange for Bitcoin.
+1 for being supportive to Kindhearted Bro, who sincerely thinks this will lead to mega riches and wants to share that prospect with you.

Answers to 1 & 2)
Explain that although you support him, you're a much more conservative investor and would prefer index funds instead... or traditional gifts such as clothes, gift cards, gadgets (even if you don't like them/need them it would still be preferable to his MLM stuff).




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #8 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 04:16:39 PM »
How does everyone NOT know this scam.  This is older than the Nigerian prince scam.  Go convert all that junk into real money.  Tell your brother that's what you did and if he gives you any more, you'll do it again.  Your brother should sell Amway.  Way better chance of making money than with this scam.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #9 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 02:48:45 AM »
I had some left over from Iraq deployments and eventually sold it all on Ebay. 

Ask your brother this... how can he explain the 100 to 1 value increase?  So you're saying an Iraqi could take his dinar and suddenly be 100x richer if he changes it to dollars (after the valuation)?  We're about to be flooded with Iraqi millionaires then. 

Secondly, if it was a real 'investment', then real rich folks would be buying every single dinar they could get their hands on.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #10 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 06:30:38 AM »
If your brother is anything like mine, tell him this is the best idea he’s ever had and you wished you thought of it. Tell him you support him 100% and you’d invest everything you have except you can’t but that he should right away. Cause if your brother is anything like mine, he’ll do the opposite of whatever you tell him and reject all of your advice.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #11 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 07:19:07 AM »
This scam has been going on for almost a decade. 

I have met quite a few people over the years who have tried to get me to "buy in". 

Good luck.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #12 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 08:32:11 AM »
Say thank you for the gift. Turn it into USD and invest it. Leave the issue alone. You are not going to solve your brother's problem.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #13 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 01:29:25 PM »
It's ironic that this is getting posted today. I was listening to NPR this morning and they had a segment on the Iraqi government's estimate on the cost to rebuild the destruction caused by ISIS. Unfortunately, no one is willing to help them finance the reconstruction effort and I imagine the Iraqi dinar will take a bigger hit when the government starts printing more money to rebuild. 

Zimbabwe Dollars though...those have value. I keep a few of those notes around around my MegaCorp office just in case we have a bad quarter in terms of revenue. For some reason my bosses don't seem to derive much comfort from the fact that if we're behind I can give them 10 BILLION DOLLARS!!!1!



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #14 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 01:47:20 PM »
Oh this brings back memories of a nutter I knew a few years ago. I think the north Korean currency is the other one these folks also say is set to explode.  

I suppose it could be entertaining reading.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #15 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 02:28:57 PM »
I bought some when I was deployed in 2004-2005. About $200 worth (250,000 dinar). Last time I checked it's gone up in value to about $210. I suppose that's better than if I had left it in a savings account but had it been in an index fund it would have doubled or tripled since then. I can't recall what the rate of return has been but it's something like 1-2% over 12-13 years.

It was neat to pull it out and show my kids as I had a mix of various bills. That's about it though. It's just a souvenir at this point. Maybe I should sell some of it to your brother?



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #16 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 06:48:28 PM »
Sell it to your brother Smile




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #17 on:[/b] December 31, 2017, 08:53:21 AM »
Thank you for the help. I will continue to support my brother with his business adventures, but not contribute any of my own money. 
 
I'm going to try to exchange it within the next 2-3 days. Not all currency exchange businesses will exchange the Dinar. I'm guessing there is a higher risk of counterfeit. Hopefully my Dinar is not counterfeit.  I will find out soon. 



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #18 on:[/b] January 06, 2018, 08:52:45 PM »
I exchanged the Iraqi Dinar currency today for US dollars. An internet search today claims that $400,000 Iraqi Dinar is worth $337 US dollars. I went to the currency exchange in Denver at the Cherry Creek mall. They gave me $230 US dollars, minus a $5 fee for a total of $225. I have heard that a currency exchange will change 20%. However, this was a 33% fee. 

Maybe the fee is higher because of a higher level chance of fraud? When I looked at their board of exchange rates it looks like they charged only 15% for more legitimate currencies.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #19 on:[/b] January 06, 2018, 10:52:03 PM »
Quote from: clarkfan1979 on January 06, 2018, 08:52:45 PM

I exchanged the Iraqi Dinar currency today for US dollars. An internet search today claims that $400,000 Iraqi Dinar is worth $337 US dollars. I went to the currency exchange in Denver at the Cherry Creek mall. They gave me $230 US dollars, minus a $5 fee for a total of $225. I have heard that a currency exchange will change 20%. However, this was a 33% fee. 

Maybe the fee is higher because of a higher level chance of fraud? When I looked at their board of exchange rates it looks like they charged only 15% for more legitimate currencies.



They'll just be profiting on the currency spread. They might sell that 400,000 dinar to someone for $400 later on. The more common currencies that'll be easier for them to on-sell (and potentially less volatile) will probably have more competitive rates. Smile

I've got some Sri Lankan rupees I've been meaning to sell from when I was there last year. They're valued at 120LKR to the Australian dollar at present (based on xe.com rates), but the currency conversion place will buy them at 140LKR to the AUD. I paid about 105-110 when I bought them Smile




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #20 on:[/b] January 07, 2018, 05:43:33 PM »
Wowza, the spread on Polish Zlote (PLN) is about .02-.03PLN per dollar, or about one cent. 

33% sounds insane, so does 15%. 




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #21 on:[/b] January 07, 2018, 08:39:04 PM »
The thread reminded me that I have a butter tub of Saudi Riyals from Desert Storm.
I'll have to count it and see what it's worth.




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For a private home phone, use a company name when setting up a new phone account, rather than your own, and make sure and get caller ID, complete blocking. To add a further level of phone privacy, purchase a prepaid cell phone – such as those offered by Trac Fone through Blockbuster, WalMart, and Staples.

No name, address, credit check, etc. is required to set up an account, and you can buy phone cards for cash to add more time. As of 11/11 Wal-Mart sells i-phones for less than $100 and Unlimited internet, text and talk for $55 per month. This is a fabulous rate!!!

#7 A.) (TWO PARTS) . Keep your medical records more private. Information in your medical files can be used to deny you insurance, jobs, and legal benefits. It could be even used by a government just slightly more authoritarian than the one we now have, to take away your children or commit one elsewhere.

Unfortunately, each time you see a doctor or check into a hospital or clinic, they will usually demand your Social Security Number, which in turn will be used to file and locate your medical records.

You can protect yourself from unwanted snooping by getting an alternative Medical photo ID from ID Network (IDN). No SSN is required, and medical records are kept in your own handwriting. $9.95. Call 1-888-329-3686 or 314-416-7411, http://www.idnetwork.com.

#7 PART B: In the civilized society, we each have a crucial zone of privacy shielding us from outside snooping and control. Privacy is about keeping more of what you earn – protecting the sensitive information in your computer - avoiding being hassled by the IRS or police – protecting your children – and minimizing your chances of a 2 am visit by a machine-gun-toting SWAT team.

The battle for your privacy is the battle for your freedom. Ultimately it is a battle we will win. AMEN.

**********

#8. EXCHANGE TIME : these are suggestions to consider; you decide what IS BEST UNDER YOUR SITUATION. THERE ARE MANY OPTIONS HERE FOR PRECAUTIONARY MEASURES. The wolves inside and outside the bank can be few to many in different clothing. Your Life and Your Life Savings may be at RISK.

# 9. Do not park in the bank lot. Why show your car tags to others that will jot them down and trace u? A camera can take a photo of you and your tags for blocks away. Take a taxi or rental car to the banks.

# 10.. Go with someone to the bank; spouse, best friend who is a fellow Dinarian. Caps and glasses are nice. Make no new friends at the bank or locally who might discover your fortunes.

#11.. Make an appointment , if required, to make the 'exchange'.

#12. Know your rate before you go. Have a predetermined game plan. Shop your rates. Seek investment angles, advice also from maybe Smith Barney, Scottrade Inc, etc, various options.

# 13. Watch your body language, look and play the part of Investor. MANY maybe WATCHING. Use dressy attire but no jeans or T's.

#14.There is NO rush to cash in; supposedly many weeks and option days to have the possible 15% tax advantage with no audits (this is still a rumor; will be confirmed sooner or later next week). Seek competent tax and legal advice.
 
#15. If your deposit is in an acct "non interest bearing savings acct" this should be Dodd-Frank. check with your banker. NIB accts are usually unlimited in coverage.

#16. SMITH BARNEY or MORGAN STANLEY INC. OR SCOTTRADE INC ET and others can re-insure your accounts somewhere in the $600,000 TO ONE BILLION $$ range per account.

Seek legal advice and the broker / company policies. DO NOT LEAVE SIGNIFICANT LARGE SUMS IN INSTITUtIONS UNLESS ITS RE-INSURED; IE: LLOYDS IN


#17. AFTER MAKING YOUR INITIAL DEPOSIT; TRANSFER IT TO ANOTHER INTEREST FREE CHECKING ACCT WITHIN THE WEEK; SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. THIS PREVENTS WIRE TRANSFER AGENTS AND PAST BANK KNOWING YOUR NEW ACCT #!! (AGAIN, PLEASE FILTER ALL THIS DATA. YOU DECIDE WHICH WORKS FOR U, BUT TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE AND WAITING IS NOT HEALTHY FOR THESE ISSUES AND ACTIONS HEREIN "MAY SAVE YOUR LIFE".

# 18. ONLY USE YOUR PASSPORTS FOR IDS: IT DOES NOT HAVE YOUR HOME ADDRESS, SOCIAL SECURITY # TIED IN. Avoid using your Drivers License for anything but the cops and court when or if mandated!

#19. Use UPS postal drop for home address or your attorney's office work address until you get things squared away about physical addresses. Never use one's home address for anything, especially: mail, fed ex, UPS, !!! Have your bank statements go to a Po Box! Never let one's attorney know how much money you have.

#20. IMHO, "Irrevocable Business Trust" or a "Irrevocable Spendthrift Trust" saves your wealth, health and happiness from the tax man. . It's Worth every penny and more. Trusts are much more apt to protect large estates. Revocable Trust hold little or no water with the IRS & States.

#21: IMHO: Legalshield.com or in some states, PREPAID LEGAL INC.: for family, business, Wills, IRS audits, Citations, legal situations. 100's of legal help issues that may give legal piece of Mind and ease the pocketbook too. Attorneys are assigned within your State to handle your cases. Some situations are outsourced to qualified attorneys within your state and they contact you. Fees average $17-49 monthly.

#22: BEWARE/ ALERT: RFID )))) RADIO FREQUENCY ID. RADIO CHIPS MAYBE INSIDE YOUR CREDIT CARD. IT IS ELECTRONIC ‘PICK-POCKETING’ OF ANOTHER’S CREDIT CARD # AND EXPIRATION DATE. LOOK FOR SYMBOL)))) OR POSSIBLE OTHER SYMBOLS. ONE’S CARD # AND EXPIRATION DATE INFO CAN BE COPIED ONTO SOMEONE’S ‘HOTEL ROOM KEY’.

THEFT DEVICE CAN BE BOUGHT FOR $100. KEEP ALL CREDIT CARDS INSIDE ALUMINUM /METAL SLEEVE OR CASE.

HACKERS CAN GET YOUR CARD #S VERY EASILY. SEE THIS VIDEO AND BEWARE. ‘RFID’ CHIPS ARE IN 33% OF CREDIT CARDS MADE TODAY. TAKE CAUTION NOW. THESE CHIPS CAN ALSO BE IN YOUR SOON TO BE BANK “BLACK DEBIT CARDS”. THIS COULD GET COSTLY AND DANGEROUS AT THE SAME TIME. IT’S BEST NOT TO HAVE ‘RFID’ CREDIT CARDS.

CHECK WITH YOUR BANK ON ‘CASH-IN’ / ‘CURRENCY EXCHANGE’ TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT ISSUED ANY TYPE OF “ RADIO FREQUENCY RFID )))) “ CREDIT CARDS ON ANY OF YOUR CURRENT (AND FUTURE) ACCOUNTS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLAFhTjsQHw&sns=em

#23 (#23-36 WERE ADDED 7/16/12): Reduce Your Risk of Identity Theft: Traveling (for business or pleasure) can increase your exposure to financial risk. Here are some simple tips to protect yourself and reduce the risk of identity theft as you head out on your summer vacation.

#24: Clean out your wallet: Take only your essential documents, like your driver’s license and just 2 credit cards – one to carry and one to leave in the safe at the hotel in case your wallet is lost or stolen. Don’t carry your social security card in your wallet – ever. Leave your extra credit cards or identifications documents at home. Men – keep your wallet in a buttoned pocket, women – wear a purse with wide straps and locking clasps, and don’t hang it on the door when you use a public restroom.

#25: Leave your checkbook at home:  You shouldn’t need it if you have credit cards. Leave your bills and private papers at home, too.

#26: Make a copy of your travel documents: Copy your passport, driver’s license, airline confirmations, etc. Leave it with a trusted friend in case you need help, or keep a copy safely tucked inside a suitcase pocket in case the original gets lost or stolen. Make a list of what you have in your wallet, along with the phone numbers on the back of your cards.

#27: Stop your mail or have a neighbor pick it up: A full mailbox with bank statements and credit card bills is a sure sign for hackers and thieves that you are not at home. Also, stop the newspaper, and don’t broadcast your travel plans on social networking sites.

#28: Alert your credit and debit card issuers: Let them know where you are traveling, how you may be reached, and when you will return. This helps the fraud department stop charges that may not be yours, and reduces the risk that your cards will be “frozen” due to unusual activity when you are away from home and can’t be reached

#29: Keep an eye on your cell phone: Many people are storing user ID’s and passwords and other personal information on their cell phones. Secure your phone with a security code so that it can’t be accessed if it is lost or stolen.

#30: Consider a temporary credit freeze: A freeze will deny access to your credit history, so ID thieves can’t open accounts while you are away. Setting up a freeze through the three credit reporting bureaus – Transunion, Experian and Equifax – takes time and money, so this is the most beneficial if you are planning a period of prolonged travel.

#31: Look for safer ATMs: If you need cash withdrawals, ATMs in bank lobbies are less vulnerable to devices used to capture your information, and are usually better lit and safer in general. They are also more likely to have surveillance cameras.

#32: Be careful with computers in hotels and other public places: Don’t access your financial data on hotel or other public computers or public Wi-Fi networks. Public computers may have spy-ware or malware installed which could record everything you type. Be sure to log out of any sites that you may access before leaving the PC.

#33: Beware of front desk calls: If you receive a call from a “clerk” saying that they need to re-enter your credit card number, hang up and call the front desk yourself. You don’t now who is at the other end of that call.

#34: A few simple steps will go a long way in protecting you and your information and prevent your vacation or business trip from turning into a headache. If you have any concerns about your personal information, notice any suspicious account activity, or experience a customer information security-related event, contact your bank branch immediately so that they can assist you.

#35: ONLY PUT ONE'S PO BOX ADDRESS ON THEIR CHECKS. NEVER PLACE BIRTHDATE OR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS OR EVEN PHONE NUMBER ON YOUR CHECKS. MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR THE WOLVES/THIEVES IF THEY TAKE ONE'S CHECKBOOK.

#36: ACT IMMEDIATELY AND ACCORDINGLY TO PROTECT ONESELF, FAMILY, BUSINESS. ONE OR TWO MINUTES COULD SAVE : TIME, MONEY, GRIEF, UNTOLD PAPERWORK & CHAOS!

#37: Any major ideas or investments, always bounce it off someone you trust like your CPA, Attorney or Investment advisors. Many are ashamed to admit they've been taken advantage of or conned. Do not be over-trusting, nieve or gullible.. When or if someone tries to interest you in a venture involving money /investments, say, "I'll discuss this with my real estate agent, CPA or lawyer and get back to you." Then talk with someone you trust.

#38: further info on personal identity: Scam-proof your communications by taking control of your personal information. Put your phone numbers (home and cell) on the Do Not Call Registry. Opt out from the sale or sharing of your personal information by contacting the three credit bureaus, your state department of motor vehicles, the Direct Marketing Association and companies with which you do business. Thieves cull your information and use it to open bogus accounts that can ruin your credit scores, credit and make your life absolutely miserable.

For more information on how to remove yourself from these databases, see the Federal Trade Commission's Web page on sharing your personal information.

#39: Don’t Trust Your Caller ID: Never do business over the phone, unless you initiate the call. Here's why: No matter what your caller ID might say, you don't really know who's on the other end of the line. If you place the call yourself, divulging personal information isn't as risky. If you receive a call from someone who claims to be with your bank, insurance company or some other place where you do business -- unless you recognize the caller -- say you'll call back. That will give you time to make sure the number is legitimate. Simply call the company's published number and ask to speak to the individual who called you, or to someone in the appropriate department.

#40: Ways to make using a debit card safer include the following: Run your purchases as credit so you don't have to input your PIN. & Always double-check your card when a clerk, cashier or waiter hands it back to you and make certain it's the same card you handed over.

Be suspicious of people who want to stand too close to you when you're using your debit card, particularly when they are using a cellphone. They could be recording your debit card information with their camera

#41: Regard All Links With Suspicion: Social networking can be a great way to keep up with friends and family, but scammers have found the Internet a gold mine of opportunity. Most of us know not to click on links in emails from people we don't know or to acknowledge those silly get-rich-quick schemes from strangers, but you should never underestimate a con artist's creativity.

For instance, a recent scam on Facebook involves a fake game based on the "Twilight" series. Fans are prompted to click on the link, exposing their personal information to scammers.

Best rule of thumb: Be on your guard and never click on links of unknown origin. Check on them by running a search with the relevant keyword (in this case, "Twilight") and "complaint" or "scam."

42# Safeguard Online Activities: Don't join the thousands who fall victim to online identity theft schemes each year. Some are as simple as planting a keystroke logger on your computer to copy your private information, while others involve complicated email exchanges.

Here are some of the best strategies for avoiding online fraud:

Don't ever respond to emails asking for your account information since they are almost always fakes.

Never click on links embedded in emails (even a friend or relative can accidentally pass along a virus). If you must see that funny video, type the URL directly into your browser.

#43: When you decide to purchase from an online merchant, always make certain that you're dealing with a reputable site. Check for complaints and never click on a link; instead, as with email links, type the company's correct URL into your browser.

Make it a habit to double-check that order forms are secure before completing them. Instead of the standard "http," the URL will begin with "https," which indicates a secure transmission.

#44: DOUBLE REMINDER : Don't forget to maintain up-to-date, functioning security software and a firewall WITH latest up to date Online Protection.

#45: Guard your medical insurance information and ALL PERSONAL INFORMATION OF ANY NATURE with the same zeal as you do your financial data. the National Health Care Anti-Fraud Association says the fallout from medical fraud can damage your credit rating, open you to litigation and even result in your receiving improper medical care. "Always examine your explanation of benefits for treatments that you didn't have," he says.

THE LESS INFO there is out there about you, the harder you are to target. Make the con artists' jobs difficult by avoiding their scam tactics. They don't deserve to score off your hard work.

* #s 37-45 contributed in part by : Former policewoman Carole Moore,author of "The Last Place You'd Look: True Stories of Missing Persons and the People Who Search for Them."

Read more: 8 ways to avoid getting conned

http://www.bankrate.com/finance/personal-finance/8-ways-to-avoid-becoming-a-successful-mark-1.aspx#ixzz217YsBOtg

ALL CONTRIBUTORS, INFO, IDEAS ARE SINCERELY APPRECIATED TO HELP DINARIANS AROUND THE PLANET. I LOVE YOU ALL. BLESSINGS. LAST UPDATE 11/11/12.
by Ssmith
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HAS Flashtel Call "State of Readiness" w/ Yosef-Alexander Gagin Tonight at 9 PM EST 1/5/18

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"15 Reasons USN Stories Are Great News!" - One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. aka Swervy McGee

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15 Reasons USN Stories Are GREAT NEWS!



[size=16]Re-posted (5-29-17) by request of One Who Knows
[/size][size=16]/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. aka Swervy McGee

 I have been seeing some USN stories lately and it is a CLEAR sign to me that EVERYTHING we want is right on schedule. The USN is the new Gold Backed currency of the Republic. Here is the latest news on the USN:

"Bank intel, USN" by Geoffrey - 2.25.17

It is so interesting that we are looking for clues all over the place to verify that this top secret World Change over is both REAL and immanent, and yet one single item actually PROVES EVERYTHING! Yes, as the title of this post reveals, it is the USN that tells the whole story and is all the proof we need, that we are actually on track to everything we have been told and promised. Here is how...

#1) USN Means Gold Backed

The fact that the USN has been acknowledged by Banking personnel as well as many others, is PROOF that the New Gold Backed Money is really coming.

#2) Gold Backed Means The World

The fact that there really is new USA Gold Backed Money coming means that all the other countries of the World are going Gold Backed as well since there is no way that we would be the only ones changing.

#3) The World Going Gold Backed Means Equality

If all the countries of the World are Going Gold Backed as well, it only works if their currency values are adjusted to be on par with each other.

#4) World Currencies On Par With Each Other

Having all the World's currencies being adjusted to be on par with each other means that those countries who's currency values are greatly undervalued compared to everyone else are going to be adjusted up, WAY UP, to be on par with the other countries. That MEANS THE GCR IS REAL.

#5) If The GCR is REAL

If the GCR is Real, then anyone who happens to be holding currencies that are greatly undervalued, such as the first basket currencies, will realize a HUGE increase in value when said adjustment happens.

#6) No Double Dipping

Because there is an all go, or none go and a deliberate plan to prevent Double dipping, by reinvesting money from one currency revaluation on the next currency revaluation, they will all go at once. Since all the currencies will go at once, that means that THEY WILL ALL GO, and none of them will be left behind.

#7) Stories of The USN Means Treasury Money

Stories of the USN MEANS that it is our new Treasury that is issuing the money. This means that not only is the Fed Dead, but that the REPUBLIC is Alive!

#8) The Republic Alive Means NESARA

The fact that the Republic is alive and in the process of showing itself, means that NESARA, the new governmental structures are also in the Process as well, since the Republic is based on the new NESARA Principles.

#9) NESARA Means GESARA

The fact that NESARA is coming into action here in the Republic of the United States, means that soon the World will be changing over to GESARA, which is the global version of this same governmental structure and principles.

#10) GESARA Means World Peace

Since GESARA is Coming in to Power all over the World, that means that the World will be at peace from now on and War will no longer be permitted or tolerated by any country in the World.

#11) GESARA & World Peace

GESARA and World Peace also signals multiple trusts that will start paying out Trillions of dollars in many different forms to all the people of the World. These include huge trusts such as the St. Germaine Trust, The Lee Wanta Trust, and many others.

#12) NESARA & GESARA Means New Technologies Released

Another important aspect of the NESARA & GESARA implementation is the release of hidden technologies and health remedies that have been held back by the Cabal. This leads to such things as immediate cures for most medical problems and introduction of free energy devices and anti gravity craft to name a few.

#13) NESARA Means Top Level Arrests & Trials Begin

Another important aspect of the NESARA implementation is the immediate arrests of top Cabal operatives, resignation of all current political positions, and new elections for President and other positions. It also means the resignation from the BAR of all attorneys' and retraining them in Constitutional law.

#14) Bank Awareness Of The USN Means Immanent GCR

The fact that Bank employees are aware of, and acknowledge the USN, means that they have been trained on it, and will be available soon. Additionally, many claim it is in their vaults now and will be released soon.

#15) USN Availability Means CGR

There is no way that the GOLD Backed USN can be distributed, unless the GCR has already happened. If the USN is about to be available, that means the GCR is about to happen.

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The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that while USN reports and stories seem to be of little value, they actually PROVE EVERYTHING IS TRUE AND ABOUT TO HAPPEN. The USN availability means World Gold Back GCR, NESARA/GESARA, World Peace, New Technologies and Health remedies, High Level Cabal Arrests and Trials, New Elections, and the Release of countless Trust to the people of the World. In short, when you have Proof of the USN, you have proof of EVERYTHING!

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams

Signed: One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. aka Swervy McGee
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by Ssmith
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Frank26says they are ready to go INTERNATIONAL.

I guess it depends on what you mean by "go international".  I agree that the current rate isn't the holdup.  After all, the S. Korean won is about 1/10 of a penny and it's #15 on Forex.  When I hear the expression "go international" I take it to mean that the currency will be traded on Forex and held in reserves of countries around the globe so as to expedite trade with companies from that country.  That doesn't describe any currency from the region around Iraq because they're all oil based economies, and their oil is sold for USD per the petrodollar agreement.  That creates very little demand for the currencies.  In the dinar community Iraq was thought to be in line to go the way of Germany and Japan post-WWII as a western-style democracy and market economy, but that is clearly not going to happen any time soon.
by Sam I Am
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11/22/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

Guru OkieOilman:  "THE OVEN CONTINUES AT 440 DEGREES & THE TURKEY IS ON SLOW BAKE FOR ARRIVAL VERY SOON. CONTRACTORS HAVE BEEN PAID IN IRAQ AT AN "IN COUNTRY RV RATE" OF 3.75 AS OF NOW. WE ARE IN PROCESS OF THIS WORLD EVENT WHICH SHALL COME TO FRUITION. BULLDOG75 SPEAKS FOR US. NUFF SAID."


Guru ScottiG:
 
BELLS ON AND READY TO DANCE, WE HAVE SO MUCH TO BE THANKFUL FOR TO THE ONE THAT HAS GIVEN IT ALL. i SPOKE TO OKIE TODAY AND THE COMMUNICATION HAS NOT WORKED OUT FOR OKIE, 

FIRST WE ARE IN A GREAT PLACE...THE VERY BEST PLACE AND I KNWO FOR CERTAIN THAT THAT RV PROCESS HAS BEEN STARTED

WE HAE TALEN ALOT OF FLACK WE DON'T GET PAID FOR PUMPING. WE TRY TO BRING THE MOST CREDIBLE AND MOST ACCURATE AND THE RATE WILL BE CLOSE TO KUWAIT. i KNOW THAT 3.75 WAS PAID. CONFIRMED THAT THIS IS HAPPENED

I can't stay here but for a few minutes. I have had the phone stuck to my ear since very early this morning. I am digging in attempts to fine tune the information that came in yesterday. I promise you the last thing I wanted to do was share information that put our time frame further out. I am still confident that we will see the completion of the rate adjustment very soon. When I know more, I promise I will come here first and share. I had a good long visit with Okie this mornig and he felt bad about not being able to get through to be on the call last night. Please know that we are doing our very best for this site and for the Lord. When it comes right down to it....He is the one we all should please. Bear and I both will continue to bring only verifiable and credible information here. I do not do the rumor mill. If we share information that we stand upon, it is because it has been checked out. There are many things I am looking at and will compare notes with my sources later. Until then, please continue to be patient. Consider the encouragement Bear and I have shared with you. I hope you will just rest and relax for we are extremely close! Thanks and be back as soon as I am able


Guru FreewayBill:  No reported delays according to everyone I have talked to this evening.... looks like we may see this very soon... yes, you have heard this before, but that is because we are still in the moment... That's all I have for now...

Every single information gatherer is saying the same thing.


Guru Historian:  11/26/11 is the Islamic new year, a great timing for the "new phase" of Iraq.

Also there were some sanctions implemented on Iran yesterday, possibly to slow the RV money from/to Iran as a security measure, this is very significant


Guru AJ Anderson:  We are in a good window of opportunity for this RV thing to happen, but that does not mean it will happen, due to the negotiation’s that are now taking place with all countries hedging one another to find some balance. Some are not pleased and some are very happy.

Here's a piece of intel I am aware of that I have been holding back since yesterday. I was headed to town to take care of some business and on the radio international news was talking about Maliki being in China. The radio stated "China told Maliki that, we are not going to do business with you until you revalue your money". WOW, I said to myself, I need to check into this! I have known since last summer that BIG lumber mills in the Pacific Northwest has been selling lumber to China by the hundreds of millions of board feet. I know this because my brother in law is a big manager at one of these mills.

So, I call him yesterday and he told me they were still milling for China and the lumber was being loaded into ships at the docks in Portland Oregon at $856 per Thousand Board Feet and headed for Iraq. He told me, at this time, there is no end in sight to stop milling.

Me knowing China has the biggest housing deal in Iraq, they need the lumber. The start up money for those orders is coming from part of the DFI funds and so where's the rest coming from? There's only one answer to that question and I think you know that answer, from what the radio news broadcaster said, China told Maliki. I Know you know the rest of the story, We Are Getting Close! AJ



Guru Bear5642: ALL INFORMATION HAS BEEN VERIFIED AND VERIFIED MULTIPLE TIME AND WE UNDERSTAND YOUR FLUSTRATIONS 

WE COULDNT GO INTO DETAIL AS TO WHY WE WERE TOLD NOT BY THANKSGIVING, HOWEVER, IT WILL BE WITHIN A FEW DAYS AND IM STILL MAKING PLANS TO CASH OUT SOON. IT IS NOT “O”, PLEASE BELIEVE ME HE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS DELAY… we do have information as to what is actually going on…and its not political…it is a matter of simple economics if that helps… IT IS IN IRAQ AND IT IS SMALL ON…i hope and believe it will go now in just a few days and dont see this going past next friday, it can actually happen this friday…I DONT SE IT GOING PAST DECEMBER, ABSOLUTELY NOT, IT IS A PROBLEM THAT CAN BE SOLVED AND THEY ARE WORKING ON IT, CANT SAY MUCH MORE THOUGH…JUST BE PATIENT.


Guru TNT Tony: Got a call from someone who is not on the boards, who is involved in dinar, said on Fox news on Saturday, they said “Iraqi dinar was the highest currency in the world”, they just knew that the RV would be today/tomorrow. Still looking for this any minute, any hour. I’m excited. If you were paying attention, the Super Committie went away, that was the last hold up…if it was from Saturday night the 72 hours started…that’s what your window is…things are still processing…it’s being done, just be patient, you’re going to see it, that part has not changed. It’s going to be a great week, we are absolutely at the end.


Guru DinarWishes: we are digging to find what we can and the DAY IS STILL YOUNG!!! I will say that I truly believe we will have more than just turkey to be thankful for this week!!! Just know we are putting every effort into searching for this and getting the best information we can give out to you guys!!!


Guru Checkmate Dan: LETS NOT FORGET THAT THIS IS A WEEK OF THANKS FOR MANY REASONS, SOME BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAY, OTHERS BECAUSE THEY UNDERSATND THE MEANING OF LIFE, YET THE REST BECAUSE THE RIDE IT ABOUT TO BE OVER…THERE IS GOOD NEWS AND THERE IS A GREAT DAY IN FRONT OF US!!!!!


Guru Jonnywg:  WELL MY FRIENDS YET AGAIN WE COME TO THE FINISH LINE WITH NO RESULTS. I CANNOT EXPRESS HOW DISAPPOINTED I AM FOR WE HOLDERS OF DINAR. OUR SOURCES WERE POSITIVE THAT THIS WAS OUR TIME. GOVERNMENT SOURCES FELT THAT IT WAS THE END. MY FEELINGS AND SYSTEMS CHECKS ALL POINTED TO AN RV OVER THE PAST WEEK AS THERE LITERALLY IS NOTHING LEFT TO HOLD THIS UP.. I WILL PROMISE YOU THAT I WILL DO MY BEST TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT IF ANYTHING WENT WRONG. I THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND RESOLVE TO DO BETTER

[size=18]UST still in lockdown as of 4PM. Bank screens are still 00.000.  [/size][size=18]RV should be any time today or tomorrow.  [/size][size=18]China is influencing the RATE ... AND made it higher. [/size][size=18]All admins say we are FINISHED......BUT not released yet.[/size][size=18]It is hard for me to think that they can come up with more delays....all is done.  [/size][size=18]No commitment but 3.41 to 7 looks good.     [/size][size=18]done by end of day at latest.   [/size][size=18]China and Japan heavily invested in IQD .... leverage for them.  [/size][size=18]Do not listen to any talk of lopping the 3 zeroes .... period
this time there was no misinfo…all verified and still true…no answers…UST still in lockdown, RV in country confirmed, I think we are waiting for UST to end input…then RV…we have confirmed that govt employees and contracters have received an rv’d value for their dinar…LATE BREAKING NEWS: 72 hrs may not have started FRIDAY…we are researching.[/size]


Guru Kaperoni: 10 reasons why the IQD will not LOP:

1. Monetary policy was a success talking inflation from 35% or higher to around 7% currently.

2. Any type of currency devaluation (LOP) is considered a failure of monetary policy. Dr. Shabibi has not failed. 3. Lesser value notes in circulation such as 50, 250, 500. Devaluing the larger

3 zero notes would make them worth less than these lesser notes.

4. Iraq wants the dinar to be an international reserve currency. Cannot devalue the notes in reserve (25,000), circulate them as payment, or traded amongst countries.

5. Iraq holds arguable the second largest oil reserves and is mineral rich. They are too wealthy to not honor the value stated on the notes.

6. Iraq has stated. They want the “strongest currency in the Middle East” Any such type of LOP would be a devaluation and therefore not considered strong.

7. US holds dinar as a result if funding the CBI initial reserves. This dinar will eventually payoff the war debt.

8. One of the authors of the currency exchange plan – Assistant Professor Dr. Fadel states in his documentation, “We must emphasize the extremely important issue is that if you remove three zeroes from the currency should not affect the actual value thereof to be trading in the old currency…

9. In 2003 when the NID was introduced at it’s initial rate, the previous currency was in essence devalued taking all wealth from the country to prevent funding of terrorism. Raising the currencies value will in essence, return that wealth now that the GOI is stable and economic conditions have improved.

10. The CBI has stated “both currencies will co-exist” and the process will not change the “monetary value” of the dinar.


Guru BWM:  OK... it was relatively quiet today... nothing negative... the Super Committee was set up to fail, you have the most conservative Republicans and the most liberal Democrats...no way anything was getting done... just killing time... There is still a chance this could happen tonight... so don't get wound up by those already bailing on their latest guess and back wall that says it can't happen by this date or that... until there is a reason that it is being held up it can still go IMO


Guru Med: I PAY ATTENTION TO ONE PERSON, SHABIBI AND WHATEVER HE STATES IS WHAT IT IS TO BE AND THE LAST EXPLANATION THAT CAME TO US BY HIM IS: INCREASED PURCHASING POWER BY RAISING THE ZERO’S, ISSUING NEW DENOMS IN 3 LANGUAGES AND THEN OVER TIME RETIRING THE LARGE DENOMS OVER ABOUT A 2 YR PERIOD, THAT HE WANTS A RATE COMPARIBLE TO THE USD SO IT WILL BE AN EASY TRANSITION AND WILL MAKE THE IRAQI PEOPLE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IN USING IT IN TRANSACTIONS. IT WAS STATED THAT THIS WILL BE POSITIVE FOR THE POOR AND BE NEGATIVE FOR THE WEALTHY OR ENTITLED.

Guru Mailman17: THURSDAY, NOT ON THE DOCKET FOR SHABS BILL BUT WE SHALL SEE…THIS IS OF COURSE IRAQ WHAT THEY SAY AND WHAT THEY DO ARE MOST OF THE TIME 2 DIFFERENT THINGS. IF NOT THIS THURS…THEN WE WAIT TILL NEXT THURS. JUST BE PATIENT OUR TURN WILL COME


Guru Lawman (GET): It seems that ALL is imminent……..Yes, it looks that way!
If you were a Muslim and you are in the middle of a Religious Holiday ( banks and government buildings are closed until Thursday morning) Would you be happy if the rest of the world benefited from an RV 2 to 3 days BEFORE YOU?.

NO……me neither……….So, could we assume that should it RV this week, it would be better to wait until Thursday or Friday?.

Part of addressing the world imbalances……..Diplomacy is involved in this, too!  Is Friday Iraq’s favourite RV Day?.
What date is Friday?  Could the GBP and USD be revalued too? (A POINT USUALLY FORGOTTEN)

As of today…GBP=$1.60………Some of the calculations on these boards are…. well……diplomatically…..NOT VERY GOOD!

……Should GBP devalue down to £=$1.50…..and 1IQD=£4.44…………What would the $ rate be? (other mathematical variations work with this as well…simple multiplication) ….

Let me help….Should GBP devalue to 1£=$1.50…..and 1IQD=£4.44……the U.S. rate would be $6.66!!!!!….SHOCK AND AWE!!!!….just a thought..


OOM SECURITY MEASURES:
# 1 DO NOT PARK IN BANK PARKING LOTS. WOULD SHOW YOUR CAR TAGS.

#2 GO TO BANK WITH FELLOW DINARIAN, SOMEONE REALLY CLOSE TO YOU. WEAR CAP, SUNGLASSES. TAKE TAXI PARK 1-2 MILES AWAY, YOU CAN BE FOLLOWED OR TAILED

:#3 MAKE AN APPOINTMENTS KNOW THAT THEY ARE DEALING IN DINAR

#4 DO NOT CASH IN ALL AT ONE TIME AND SEEK ADVICE. KNOW YOUR RATES AND KNOW THAT THEY CAN FLUCTUATE AND THEY CAN COME IN LOW, MEDIUM AND HIGH

#5 HAVE A PRE-DETERMINED GAME PLAN: WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, WHY,
KNOW YOUR GAME PLAN

:#6 GET PROFESSIONAL ADVICE THROUGH BANKER OR DEALER. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CPA/ATTORNEY COMBINATION. USE ATTORNEY'S PHYSICAL ADDRESS FOR YOUR CORPORATION.

:# 7: WATCH BODY LANGUAGE AND OTHERS BODY LANGUAGE TELLERS ETC

#8: BE RELAXED AND READY

#9 NO RUSH TO CASH IN; KNOW YOUR RATES AND WHAT TO DO & BARGAIN. WE ARE NOT QUOTING RATES OR DATES

:# 10 MAKE SURE IN NON INTEREST BEARING CHECKING ACCOUNT AND THEN HAVE WIRED TO DIFFERENT ACCOUNT. SEEK PROFESSIONAL ADVICE.

#11 MANY INVESTMENTS INSURE UP TO 1 BILLION DOLLARS AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE AND MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THEIR CO. POLICIES.

# 12 HOME ADDRESS HOTTEST TOPIC: NEVER USE HOME ADDRESS THEN UPS KNOWS WHO LIVES THERE. THERE ARE TRACK RECORDS AND YOU MAY NEED TO MOVE. YOUR NAME WHEN WE CASH OUT NAME AND ADDRESS WILL BE SEEN BY MANY MANY TELLERS AND THEN TO IRS 5-10 PEOPLE WILL SEE YOU NAME AND BANK ACCOUNT HOME ADDRRSS, PHONE NUMBER SOC. SEC. IT IS LEGAL TO GET BOXES THAT YOU CAN USE AS HOME ADDRESS. MOST STATES ALLOW THAT. THEY ARE ABUNDANT.

#13: IF ANYBODY HAS RECEIVED PACKAGES OR BANK STATEMENTS THERE WILL BE TRACK RECORDS IN DATA BASE. WHEN YOU MAKE DEPOSIT MAKE SURE YOU TRANSFER SAME DAY OR WITHIN ONE WEEK. YOU DO NOT WANT A WIRE BACK IF YOU MOVE IMMEDIATELY

#14. MAKE MAIL TO P O, BOXES. USE PASSPORT FOR IDs; NOT DRIVERS LICENSE.

#15. USE PASSPORT ONLY. DRIVERS LICENSE MAY BE TIED TO SOCIAL SECURITY WITH THAT DATA CAN FIND OUT WHERE YOU LIVE. IF BANK ALREADY KNOWS ADDRESS HAVE THEM CHANGE IMMEDIATELY ONLY YOU CAN MAKE DECISION. DO NOT WANT ANYONE KNOWING HOME ADDRESS

#16: 2 COMPUTERS 1 FOR NON INTERNET BANK AND PRIVATE STUFF AND ONE FOR BANK, ID# , ACCTS, STORAGE FOR PERSONAL. 1 FOR EMAIL AND WEB STUFF AND ONE HIGHLY SECURED

#17. BULLDOG be careful with all your internet browsing AND SITES. TYVM.

be sure medical records are kept completely private home address and SS# are on those records...

#18: MEDICAL RECORDS KEEP COMPLETELY PRIVATE AND CHANGE ADDRESSES ETC ON OOM SITE THERE ARE MEANS AND WAYS TO PROTECT. WE WANT TO HELP YOU BE PROTECTED FROM THE WOLVES IN SHEEPS CLOTHING.



DV Member GoFast350Z:  11/18/11  Any of you who have read my previous few posts know how I came upon this investment. Kept my mouth shut so far but just received a phone call from my uncle stating that Wooten, head of the treasury under Bush called and said RV has been announced in Iraq and we should here about this by the weekend days rolling around. Let the soft words fly cause I guess I'm a guru now but I've got my armor on so no feelings hurt. Anyone else have anything to back up my rant?

You guys all rock like tube socks in a 70's porno!...I didn't hear anything about rates but I'm a little overwhelmed by the phone call myself. Staying grounded, gettin my bike ready to fly high at the track tomorrow and goin on about my business...but in case it is actually true, I get to thump my chest just a bit...haha. God bless every single one of you wonderful people! Hope all comes to fruition for us, we deserve it by now.

Uncle is a friend of the bush family. Has dinner with them regularly here in highland park north dallas. He's in IT for valvoline. He's just a simple farm hand, rodeod for a while, rode semi pro MX and just has been an honest hard worker like the rest of us...good guy just in the right place at the right time with the right people.

I don't know the back story about Tony but sounds like he beat you to that limb...actually sounds like he found the end of it and didn't quite touch the ground if you get what I mean...I hear a lot of bashing about that guy...none of which sounds good so I hope I don't fall into the same bucket come monday.

Not asked...was told about this. Matter of fact, if I'm not completely talkin out my butt here, I believe he said Wooten was at that dinner when it came up in conversation. I want to say there were only about 12 or so people there and...ummm...yeah, I think that's it. I want to stick to what I know to be factual and not shoot my mouth off.


I don't know whether to be offended or happy!...haha. Still haven't heard back from my uncle. I'm sure he'll call me this evening to chat so I'll be back as usual later this evening. Trust me, if I hear anything I'll be too damn giddy to stay away from here very long.
Blessings to all and GO RV!!!

I'm going to be calling my uncle again in the next hour so hold tight everybody and let's see what else is crackin in the wacky world of dinar BS today.


11/21/11  Well...not to be rude but that's the difference between you and I. I did call but got no answer, he's a busy guy and I refuse to blow someones phone up, especially on a weekend, common courtesy dictates you don't do those kind of things. He's family, not some jack wagon I found out had intel.
by Ssmith
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Iraqi Dinar Scam

Iraqi Dinar Scam

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Squirrel Pot Pie
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undisclosed USA
#1 Jun 13, 2013
It has just come to my attention that the "Iraqi Dinar Scam" is now alive and well in Carlsbad. All of my direct family lives there, and my very elderly (but fortunately, very well physically and mentally) mother may be a prime target for this scam, even if by otherwise well-meaning people who have been suckered themselves.

I believe this is simply another Ponzi scheme, a pyramid, where (maybe, but not guarantees) a very few "may" see a little of their money returned in the beginning, but virtually all will be dealt a sleight of hand that may very well ruin many of them for the rest of their lives.

This kind of fraud abounds everywhere, at all times and in many different disguises, but they're always the same. But what really gets me this time around is that (even if conducted by one of those well-intentioned suckers I mentioned above) is that it is involving people who are attending church and marketing this bogus BS to vulnerable people to people from THEIR VERY OWN CHURCH. I don't care if they are assuring people that their money is 100% refundable (which would be a surprise of the greatest magnitude even if THAT was true). I care about the fact that whether a scam artist is knowingly bilking the vulnerable or it's just a case of the person marketing the scam being one of those well-intentioned suckers who has himself or herself acting for the betterment of those who might just be as (I hate to say this) stupid as themself.

Have any of you heard of this (it's apparently been around a long, long time), or otherwise been solicited to participate in this charade?

I would like to know, and mainly want to alert ALL of you to the probability you're looking to get bilked. There is a lot of truth to that old adage "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is".
I've attached only one link of many that tells you more about this.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jayadkisson/2012/...

Meanwhile for those of you who are interested, I am selling shares in a grasshopper ranch that, for a mere $100.00 per share, is guaranteed to bring you a return of 1200% in just the first three months, with even greater returns assured afterward (and my guarantee to you is that your investment is 110% refundable if not satisfied). For those of you interested, kindly PM me so we can discuss this in a private, confidential environment. There is a per person limit of 1000 shares.





Really
Carlsbad, NM
#2 Jun 24, 2013
It is not a scam or Ponzi scheme to invest in another country's money, as long as you understand that the returns vary & may not be as big as one would like, as well as the risks of loosing all together. That one is taking the same chances as one would on Wall Street. Any investment is never, I repeat NEVER, a sure thing, it really is the same as gambling. The scam however comes in when the investors are promised a sure fire large return within x amount of time, guaranteeing they will become over night millionaires! If at anytime someone tries to get you to invest without thoroughly explaining the risks, & only promising return, STAY AWAY FROM IT! In short is getting folks to invest in Iraqi Dinar illegal? NO! Is it being done in an ethical & legal manor? If done as u are describing NO! If you are misunderstanding how its being done then you will feel guilty for slandering the one doing the selling, if you are right then thanks for the warning! And lastly befor doing any investing check with a qualified investment expert, NEVER take friends,family,(remember they are the worst as you never see it coming from them or want to believe they would do you wrong) or do gooders word for it if you do your only begging to be robbed!






Squirrel Pot Pie
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#3 Jul 1, 2013
Really wrote:
It is not a scam or Ponzi scheme to invest in another country's money, as long as you understand that the returns vary & may not be as big as one would like, as well as the risks of loosing all together. That one is taking the same chances as one would on Wall Street. Any investment is never, I repeat NEVER, a sure thing, it really is the same as gambling. The scam however comes in when the investors are promised a sure fire large return within x amount of time, guaranteeing they will become over night millionaires! If at anytime someone tries to get you to invest without thoroughly explaining the risks, & only promising return, STAY AWAY FROM IT! In short is getting folks to invest in Iraqi Dinar illegal? NO! Is it being done in an ethical & legal manor? If done as u are describing NO! If you are misunderstanding how its being done then you will feel guilty for slandering the one doing the selling, if you are right then thanks for the warning! And lastly befor doing any investing check with a qualified investment expert, NEVER take friends,family,(remember they are the worst as you never see it coming from them or want to believe they would do you wrong) or do gooders word for it if you do your only begging to be robbed!

I was very polite in suggesting that the person in question may very well have been duped into believing so completely in what he was selling (although I didn't say I doubt it is true, which I do).
No slander at all.

This week is when the "payoff" is due. Let's sit back and watch the money flow back into the hands of the "investors" at the sums reputed to be.

I do agree with this from your post above:

NEVER take friends,family,(remember they are the worst as you never see it coming from them or want to believe they would do you wrong) or do gooders word for it if you do your only begging to be robbed!
Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/city/carlsbad-nm/T...

Somebody is about to be fleeced.





Question
Casa Grande, AZ
#4 Jul 1, 2013
Can you name the church please? CCF? maybe?
Judged:
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Really
Carlsbad, NM
#5 Jul 2, 2013
You mean rv? There can be no promise of any certainty of when a country's monetary system will rv. The advisors can look at what is going on and predict a possible date, but to make a promise of certainty, not possible. Especially with a country that is still in internal turmoil . I read the article you linked to. & it mentioned the investors relating the Iraqi dinar to Kuwaits dinar. The difference between the 2 was Kuwait was an invaded country that was more than willing to get back to peaceful times and rebuild its stability, so far Iragi shows no signs of even being willing to do so. This comparison is like milk & water. Milk has vitamins & calcium, water not so much. Ie if one is using this as a reason to believe in a substantial return, they may have to be prepared to wait a while.as with all investing patience is the key, you never sell of your shares while low you wait until they rebound! Common law of investing. Of course being wise enough to study your options and not jump at just anything is the main key. Never leap before looking you' ll end up regretting the out cone! Ie when investing use common sense not someone's word or that so called all knowing gut feeling!





bet my life
Tucumcari, NM
#6 Jul 2, 2013
My edlery parents are saying they bet there life that they are going to be millionairs..two weeks ago..they dont have alot of money but are waiting on pins and needles to cash in on their dinars!!They invested two years ago and still believe in it..They are sitting by there computer daily to watch for when they need to go cash in...they have their clothes packed and in the car and stopped doing much at all because they are waiting..anyday to be Rich!Now if they arent being scammed they sure are investing alot of their precious last years of their life waiting on this..It makes me angry that people pray on the elderly like this..yes im sure currency trading is legit..but these gurus are making them promises that has litterly put there lives on hold..It is sad and I cant seem to change there mind no matter what I tell them or show them warnings about this SCAM!!





NicolasKL
Lovelock, NV
#7 Jul 2, 2013
It's not a pyramid or ponzi scheme, but it's definitely a scam.

Buying the currency of a foreign country isn't a scam, but paying 20-50% plus premiums for it because someone (either a well meaning ignoramous, or an unscrupulous con man) told you a bunch of nonsense about it increasing in value by tens of thousands of percent most definitely IS a scam.

There's absolutely zero legitimate reasons the Iraqi currency would undergo a large increase in value. It's incredibly unlikely it'll even go up 50% over the next decade, let alone the 100,000% in the next week that most of these fools believe.

Iraq's currency is worth right about what it should be. There are two VERY simple ways to prove this:

1. Divide their foreign reserves (80 billion USD in value at most) by their money supply (M2, around 75 trillion dinar) and you get about 0.001. Right around what their currency is worth. That isn't a coincidence.

2. Take the TOTAL value of Iraqs currency (their 75 trillion M2 multiplied by the value of each dinar, 0.0086) and you come up with about 65 billion dollars. Now look at their GDP. It's around 120 billion dollars. That's about a .5 ratio of M2 to GDP. Now look at that same ratio for neighboring countries. They'll all be about the same, somewhere between .4 and .7 or so.

Iraqs country is worth right about what it should be. Sure, it could go up 10 or 15 or 20%. That will leave most people, that paid spreads of 20 or 30 or 50%+, high and dry. The chance of the dinar increasing in real value by even 100% in the short term is zero.





Money Maker
Carlsbad, NM
#8 Jul 3, 2013
I would give a week's pay to a hottie who tried to scam me.....in the nude!!!! Money well spent!






Squirrel Pot Pie
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#9 Jul 4, 2013
Question wrote:
Can you name the church please? CCF? maybe?

Out of respect for my family members and their opinions of the individual with whom they dealt, I am not at liberty to disclose the names of any parties.

I honestly don't know if this "investment opportunity" goes all the way to the top of the church in question, or how many church members have been approached or have "closed on a transaction". My family seems to have very long term ties to a particular party who has been transacting these exchanges, and appear to have an unshakable faith in him.

But I'm happy that, although slow, this thread has resulted in a few well-reasoned views - and helped expose something that everyone should think long and hard about before committing themselves should they find themselves approached with this "overnight millionaire" hustle.

It may prove very helpful to google "iraqi dinar guru" and such who are at least in part behind this/these scheme/s, and to google "iraqi dinar scams" and "Vietnamese dong scams".

There's some heartless people out there, folks!





curious
Fuquay Varina, NC
#10 Aug 21, 2013
a lot of people are going to be crushed by the hammer of liars and scammers...Don't invest more than you can afford to loose..I myself bought a few hundred dollars worth but everyday I wonder was I scammed by the dinargurus..If it happens all well and good if not so what I didn't rob the bank to get the money..lol





Youu
Lovington, NM
#11 Aug 22, 2013
curious wrote:
a lot of people are going to be crushed by the hammer of liars and scammers...Don't invest more than you can afford to loose..I myself bought a few hundred dollars worth but everyday I wonder was I scammed by the dinargurus..If it happens all well and good if not so what I didn't rob the bank to get the money..lol

Screw the dinar you need to invest in the Yuan.





Hussein Ali
Burton, TX
#13 Sep 4, 2013
I will not say it is or it is not, In 2008 was 1 USD exchange for 1260 ID / 2012 1 USD exchange for 116 ID in just four years,so it is not scame, and when they revaluate the ID they will not give just one month and any one can just take his IDs and go to the north of Iraq and exchange them ,The gold companies for sure they will not like invest in Iraqi dinar, no one gave good reason to not invest in Iraqi dinar, Iraq has the second oil reserve in the world sooner or later the Iraqi dinar gose back to 1ID exchange for 3.25 USD and don't tell me that it was because Saddam wanted that, because he was buying things like weapon for this exchange from the big economy contries like Russa and USA, it is slow but it gonna happen, ther is a lote reason they dont wanna people know about that like the gold people, rich people stay rich and other stay just money machine makers, if we compare why and why not we found the reasons for invest in Iraqi dinar really strong against why not who keep saying the Iraqi dinars dealers notregistered, Mean yes they are dealer and they go around stuff to make more money like cars dealers or big bank they do this in hidden ways, if somone ask why the big banks don't invest in ID it easy to find the answer.





Danny
San Jose, CA
#14 Sep 12, 2013
Exchange rate is 1166 dinar to 1 US dollar today 9/12/2013 it is a scam.
Hussein Ali wrote:
I will not say it is or it is not, In 2008 was 1 USD exchange for 1260 ID / 2012 1 USD exchange for 116 ID in just four years,so it is not scame, and when they revaluate the ID they will not give just one month and any one can just take his IDs and go to the north of Iraq and exchange them ,The gold companies for sure they will not like invest in Iraqi dinar, no one gave good reason to not invest in Iraqi dinar, Iraq has the second oil reserve in the world sooner or later the Iraqi dinar gose back to 1ID exchange for 3.25 USD and don't tell me that it was because Saddam wanted that, because he was buying things like weapon for this exchange from the big economy contries like Russa and USA, it is slow but it gonna happen, ther is a lote reason they dont wanna people know about that like the gold people, rich people stay rich and other stay just money machine makers, if we compare why and why not we found the reasons for invest in Iraqi dinar really strong against why not who keep saying the Iraqi dinars dealers notregistered, Mean yes they are dealer and they go around stuff to make more money like cars dealers or big bank they do this in hidden ways, if somone ask why the big banks don't invest in ID it easy to find the answer.







Danny
San Jose, CA
#15 Sep 12, 2013
It is a scam , exchange rate is 1166 Dinar to 1 US dollar according to the Central Bank of Iraq official website 9/12/2013






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Bruce D Call Notes 5/24/16

PinkRoses:  Bruce call starting

Bruce: Doing roll call Sue, Steven, Josef, Robert, Bob, Kent

Bruce call: Bruce: Big stands for Bless Ideas Group, came up with it 4 1/2 years ago. We are in a good place to take off and run with this blessing I think. We going to be in a very expectant mood for possible things to happen.

Bruce call: Call being opened up in prayer

Bruce: We dont do dates and rates on the call. Just preparing folks to expect more than what they thought. I am highly expectant.


Bruce: Those on this call who want to do humanitarian projects farming, food projects, veterans, all these projects and then some, housing going to have a team. We know we have the heart to go forward to help others. We will share freely.

Bruce call: Bob speaking on health

Bruce call: Intel now

Bruce: Sovereignty was given back to Vietnam yesterday so that they can revalue with all of the other countries…That was the soverignty given back to Vietnam. So they can revalue their currency by being a sovereign nation again.

Yosef: We are a family of countries. The Vietnam process playout it went alot about finance, military, a very good process. not that was completed, not only could Vietnam could revalue, but US can come forward in as a finacial force. Everybody going to get a fair shake on this new system.

Bruce: Countries behind this to make this happen, affecting the rate changes we know about. Makes me appreciate the people behind it. Starting with chinese elders, Peoples bank of cChina, Biib, Lead banks in this country

Bruce: We have a lineage of banks that are really helping to put this together to bring this to us. I am very thankful to them. Thankful WF the lead bank working so closely with the other banks. Canada and Mexico.

We have a full NOrth America effort. WE have a partner type relationship wtih these banks when we exchange. We will be welcome into a long lasting future business banking relationship

Yosef: The batton is passed to us on this call. To spread the wealth, grow into blessing that is why the rates have gone up, not to make you rich, but to empower you, to come phila. leaders in your community.

Yosef: It is your time to step up. The banks are expecting that.

Bruce: WE need to take our communities back. We need to bring them up, level that playing field. A lot of this currency rebalancing taking place. Adopt a community, a city, to make changes that need to be made
.
Bruce: Branch out, veterans, communities, families, build up the middle class, provide jobs, manufacturing, we need business back in the US. We are the core to do this.

Bruce: Even us on this call will make an incredible difference.

Bruce: Time to get the info intel points from Sue

#1)The world is in the midst publicly global reset

#2) media announcement in New Zealand, Australia, etc. but not here.

Yosef: it is not shared here because of safety issue. Dont want to over stimulate the audience. teaching patience approach. Financial changes could excite the population, could influence finacial markets, hurt physically, create hot spots that dont benefit the greater good.

Yosef: A matter of time.

3) All markets, bonds, gold backed…. All assets, finacial instruments are all gold backed now

4)US markets were allowed to collapse, replaced with new gold digital assets

5) Now is the time to be very proud of those who protected our country, we offer a great thank you and gratitude.

6) It is also good time to thank you Chinese and European sovereign families to contribuite 58 quadrillion dollars which will be used for the redemption

PinkRoses:  I am sorry, family emergency

Dedar:  7): before noon tuesday admin hold came off hsbc accounts so wf could restart ping process

Network "Ping Process" actuated by Wells Fargo yesterday and early this morning -- Bruce's Call

BJ:  Bruce: big job is be creative philathropist. Sue has ideas later. We're training for that even tho we didn't realize it.

BJ: # 9 Expect skeleton trust & ?? Robert talking… Robert: you'll see a very healthy rate on screen

Dedar:  Greater rates (sovereign) are available to anyone who is planning to make jobs and build communities. -- Bruce's call



Mangelo:  YOSEF: LOTS OF FALSE INFO. - YOU WILL SEE RATE ON SCREEN AND IF THAT IS ENOUGH THAT IS FINE - HOWEVER IF LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING IN COMMM. - HEART TO HELP PEOPLE -

THERE ARE PROGRAMS AND RATES HIGHER AND AT THAT TIME IT IS GOOD TO PRESENT GOALS THINGS TO ACCOMPLISH DOWN THE ROAD - 20 YEARS, 30 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD - THEY WILL LOOK INTO YOUR HEART AND SEE IF YOU SEEK SERVICE - THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO MOVE UP WITH WHAT THEY ARE OFFERING

Mangelo:  YOSEF: OPEN YOUR HEART TO THAT REALITY - WE ARE SPEAKING TODAY - REALLY IMPORTANT - BE OPEN TO THE GIFT OF THESE RATES WHICH ARE TO FUND HUMANITY - NOT JUST A TRANSACTION - IF THAT IS ALL YOU WANT TAKE THE SCREEN RATE AND GO

BJ: #14 just under 6000 ctrs ready and open till end of May… Now till the end of May satisfies the timeline. We've broken lots of windows so far.

BJ: #15 all military assets are deployed for your protection. Yosef: concerns for security so systems have been put inside for security.

BJ: #16 Local police and Natl Guard to protect redeemers

BJ: #17 Expect exchanges to begin in brick & mortar branches (public) first week of June. Redemp. Ctrs for groups

BJ:  Bruce: internet group about 200k; public may be 30m

intel is done

BJ: Yosef says it will come when it comes. What you hold is real. The GCR and commitment is real. It's when not IF
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Bruce Call Notes via WingIt

( LADYB COPIED AND PASTED THE NOTES. THANK YOU LADYB.
PINKROSES TRANSCRIBED THEM ON TNT SITE)
Bruce The Big Call 4-19-16  Transcriber: pinkroses
Thank you to Irene for capturing the first few lines.
 

Bruce call: We need each other, love doing this call with others, we need you out there listening and being there for us, thank you each Tuesday and Thursday night.

 
Bruce call: Bruce opening call with prayer
 
Bruce: Bruce: Tonight special call with Guest speaker Sue, and guest speaker Bob, and Kent
 
Bruce call: Kent Lesson, then prayer request
 
Bruce call: Kent Lesson now 
 
 
 
Bruce call: Bruce opening call with prayer
 
Bruce: Bruce: Tonight special call with Guest speaker Sue, and guest speaker Bob, and Kent
 
Bruce call: Kent Lesson, then prayer requests
 
Bruce call: Bruce and Kent discussing teaching lesson
 
Bruce call: Praise reports and Prayer requests now
 
Bruce call: Bruce: Intel now
 
Southcomfort transcribed this comment:  Europe becoming liquid in morning their time, midnight eastern our time
 
Bruce call: Bruce: Tonight different how we do this, collection of intel from various sources. Put it in 20 points.
 
Bruce call: Sue: to be ethical, this is the best collection of intel we have worked hard to gather, Intel providers gave us is very connected, reputable, fortunate to have it. It is intel in the moment, it is fresh. best we can come up with at this moment.
 
Bruce call: Bruce: Realize this this collaboration is something that info is we have and we are putting out. Understand that we definitely try to use discretion, try to put out info without putting out things ultra-sensitive, or going over the line in certain areas.
 
Bruce: No rates or dates, try to be ethical. receive this info in that light.
 
Bruce call: Sue: We are giving dimension to it. Bruce: We are sort of in the moment. down to a close proximity. Take the info, apply as you see fit.
 
Bruce call: Intel 20 Points
 
Bruce: #1: China announce new gold price, #2 The Chinese Yuan went gold back same moment #3 Global oil price and ? were settled 3 hours later Monday night.
 
Bruce call; Expected tomorrow morning
 
Bruce call: High rates available first 5 days, off site redemption locations
 
Bruce: rates high limited time, nothing new. the people want us to get in, get exchanges done. WF lead bank, working very carefully with HSBC, and other International banks.
 
Bruce call: 800 numbers can come out anytime but expected wee hours of the evening to ease the flow of appt setting.
 
Bruce call: 800 numbers put out in form of emails, and judicially intel providers and sites
 
Bruce call: Sue: Are you one of those intel providers? Bruce: some people think, but I not been informed. If so send to our site, we put them on our website under our bank tab.
 
Bruce call: Sue: Are you one of those intel providers? Bruce: some people think, but I not been informed. If so send to our site, we put them on our website under our bank tab.
 
Bruce call: Bruce: If they want me to.
 
Bruce: #9, Zim very valuable, be given initially 36 hours preference. Bruce: If you have Zim let people know that this is one of your currencies. They put you head of the class. Put you in appt sooner than later. They want to get the zim more quickly
 
#10, Zim will have a longer structure payout period, and skeleton trust if you dont have a trust at time of exchange
 
Bruce: I am not an attorney, cpa. What we understand, banks are prepared to put together, a skeleton trust, basic trust, to keep funds secure until you come with your own, or add to, or a trust above this trust.
 
Bruce: You will get with your WM on, to put together, they will have the resources to put together. get done before walking out of redemption center.
 
#11: IQD-dinar VND-dong, IRR-rial,. IDR-Indonesian rupiah, AFA =afghan ZIM-zimbabwe
 
Bruce: possible minimum 2 year structure payout with other currency other than the zim
 
Bruce: Sue: no rates or dates, the value has gone up, this process going to be easy, feel safe, the banks going to provide you those more valuable rates.
 
Bruce: The rates very good, nobody needs to negotiate anything. going to be quite spectacular
 
Bruce call: if not want structure rate, can redeem later, there be a time frame for groups and others to set appt, period of time initially, after which time, the John Q public they be able to exchange after that with bank screen rates, or international rates
 
Bruce: appt time about 36 minutes. New us gold back system been established
 
#15, all public and private project leaders ready and completed for global release
 
#16, US dollar and federal bank notes no longer recognize last week. Bruce: that is referring to the fiat. They already made the transaction to the new dollar that is backed by gold and other assets
 
#17, all security forces in place currently in exchange centers, inside and outside and beyond
 
Redemption staff on lock down all week, all ready.
 
#19, performance time kept secret
 
#20, 16 million currency holders, no cap. All set, plenty of equity, funds in place, all set, all compete from equity stand point.
 
Bruce call: next thing on agenda? Sue: post RV reality
 
Pinkroses.  sorry if I missed some numbers
 
bruce call: Sue: talking about her book
 
Bruce call: Kent discussing his plans post Rv and giving suggestions how to have new mind set post RV
 
Bruce call: Sue discussing to have the mind set
 
 
Bruce: the exchange itself, the banks will make it as fun as a transition as for us. Best interest to work with us as partners. That is how I going to look at it. Enjoy, have fun, new world you going to walk into.
 
Bruce: Embrace the transformation you’re going to walk into. No fear, walk into with faith, confidence. I am sure all come out as fine on other side.
 
Bruce: Ask for guidance to ask right questions and hold you during whole experience. Look forward to Thursday night to go more into this.
 
Bruce call: Kent praying call out.
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39 Signs the Global Elite’s Ship is Sinking

39 Signs the Global Elite’s Ship is Sinking

Make no mistake about it. The tide has turned on the global elite and there will be no going back. A new day is rising for humanity as those who have planned for complete control are now being exposed, cornered and investigated from many different angles. There is no need to buy into the fear-based propaganda the major media and even several alternative media outlets dispense. Very good things are happening and even better things are coming.
Let’s take a look at some of the major stories that have occurred in the last few months. Piecing the puzzle together, we see that the jig is up and the events surrounding it are growing in size and speed.



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3rd October 2015
By Lance Schuttler
Guest Writer for Wake Up World


39 Signs the Global Elite’s Ship is Sinking






#1: 57 Nations approved as founding members of the China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank. Notable countries who signed on June 29th, 2015 include Russia, India, Iran, Switzerland, Germany, France, Saudi Arabia, Australia, Indonesia, the UK, Italy and Austria. Notables who did not join are the U.S. and Japan.

#2:
May 12th, 2015: Russia asks Greece to join the BRICS Alliance. Notice the BRICS trend in the stories to follow.

#3:
May 24th, 2015: The Pentagon released documents to Judicial Watch, a government watchdog law firm, proving that the US Government played a central role in creating ISIS. Interestingly, the mainstream media failed to cover this story. A few weeks later, ex US Intelligence officials confirm the report.

#4:
May 31st, 2015: Greece’s Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras writes an open letter, warns European leaders they are “making a grave mistake,” and suggests they re-read Hemingways’ “For Whom The Bell Tolls”.

#5:
June 2nd, 2015: The U.S. Federal Government was hacked as the personal data of 4 million current, former and prospective employees believed to have been breached. 3 weeks later FBI Director James Comey told US Senators the actual number could be 18 million. Some believe the hack was coordinated to gather further evidence of crimes by certain government officials. More on that further down.

#6:
June 2nd, 2015: Kentucky Senator Rand Paul calls for the U.S. Government to declassify 28 pages in the 9/11 attack report that the Bush Administration blacked out.

#7:
June 3rd, 2015: Famous musician Akon announces his Solar Academy will bring solar power to over 600 million people in Africa. A major victory for clean energy and humanity.

#8:
June 4th, 2015: Whistle-blower Edward Snowden says a “profound difference” had occurred since releasing the NSA documents and that the balance of power has shifted in our world. Is he referring to the BRICS Alliance?

#9:
June 5th, 2015: “There Will Be A Reset of The Financial Industry.” The International Monetary Fund says the Chinese Yuan is no longer undervalued. This sets the stage for the Yuan to be recognized as a global reserve currency, something the U.S. Dollar (which is backed by war and oil) does not like.

#10:
June 7, 2015: Deutsche Bank, one of the world’s largest banks, Co-CEO’s Jain and Fitschen resign. Two days later, German prosecutors raided the Bank’s headquarters in a criminal tax-fraud probe.

#11:
June 15, 2015: China says the G-7 Summit in Germany was a “gathering of debtors.” They mean this literally as the Bretton Woods western financial system is based on debt. And in fact, the entire western financial system has been running illegally and is technically bankrupt. For more on the real history of Bretton Woods and its connection to JFK, The Global Collateral Accounts and the gold standard, read here.

#12:
June 17th, 2015 is quite the day with the next four stories all being reported at that time. First, JP Morgan’s number 2, the Vice Chairman Jimmy Lee, suddenly and unexpectedly passes over. Since late 2013, the list of high-level banking officials to have passed over has grown to 70. Clearly, something is happening.

#13:
June 17, 2015: Russia and China announced that all natural gas and crude oil sales between the two countries will now be done in Chinese Yuan (formerly the U.S. Dollar) and will be convertible into Russian Rubles. The U.S. Dollar hegemony is waning.

#14:
June 17, 2015: The State of Texas has signed a bill that calls for the repatriation of their gold from the Federal Government. When asked what would happen if the government tried to steal back the gold, State Representative Giovanni Capriglione said this: There is a motto in the office of almost every state legislator in Texas, and it’s a flag that we have [from the Texas Revolution], it’s below a cannon and what the motto says is, “Come and Take it.”

#15:
June 17, 2015: Greece’s Hellenic Parliament’s Debt Truth Committee released a report stating that the debt Greece “owes” is illegal, illegitimate and odious, according to international law. Further, they stated the IMF and ECB (European Central Bank) having illegally and knowingly imposed these illegitimate debts upon Greece and other nations. A direct call out to the global banking cartel.

#16:
June 18th, 2015: Baron David de Rothschild has been indicted by a French court over financial fraud. French police have been ordered by the court to track down Baron. The Rothschild family has long been viewed as the family sitting atop the global financial ponzi scheme. Lawyer Antonio Flores told reporters, “it’s a real breakthrough moment for everyone involved.”

#17:
June 18, 2015: In a 2-1 ruling, the 2nd Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals says Bush era officials can be held liable for detaining innocent people after the 9/11 attack. Will this lead to some major arrests?

#18:
June 19, 2015: While European leaders try to save face on the debt crisis, Greek PM Alexis Tsipras was in Russia and gave a speech at the St. Petersburg Economic Forum, stating that “the economic center of the planet has already shifted” and that new powers are playing an “important role on an economic and geopolitical level.” Now re-read story header number 8… BRICS, anyone? Oh, and Greece and Russia signed a €2 billion gas pipeline deal that day too, a strategic economic and geopolitical game-changer.

#19:
July 5th, 2015: Greece votes “NO” to the creditors’ bailout offer. This is a massive stance for humanity that Greece just took against the banking elite. As of this writing, a “deal” has been reached but is expected to fall apart in the coming days. Kicking the can down the road does not solve the issue, but rather speeds up the revolution mindset of many frustrated Greek citizens. October is when many financial experts are saying that some fireworks are to be expected.

#21:
July 8th, 2015: On this day, several strange events occurred. The NYSE was taken down for multiple hours, the Wall Street Journal was taken offline just after the stock exchange went down, United Airlines was forced to ground all of its flights nationwide due to computer “issues,” and 2,500 people losing power in Washington D.C. This whistle-blower journalist just wrote that his Pentagon sources said the Pentagon/BRICS Alliance took it down as a “dry run.”

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#22:
July 7th, 2015: Backing up one day we see that the hacking group Anonymous tweeted this on the evening prior to the stock exchange hack: Wonder if tomorrow is going to be bad for Wall Street… we can only hope. David Wilcock has previously written a detailed document stating that Anonymous is working with certain patriotic US Military forces to legally take down the banking elite. This aligns nicely with what the whistle-blower journalist, Benjamin Fulford, just wrote this week about the Pentagon and BRICS Alliance in the previous story.

#23:
July 14th, 2015: Iran, China, Russia, France, Germany, the U.K. and the U.S. reach a historic deal on Iran’s nuclear program. Entire books could be written on the geopolitical, financial and technological implications of this move. There are also reports that the reality of this situation is that Iran has free energy technology and will be using this to help bring down the banking/political/oil industry elite. This would make sense as the strongest opponents to this deal have been Israel and its Prime Minister and several American politicians like the Bushes, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz.

#24:
July 15th, 2015: Santa Cruz County votes to stop doing business with 5 major banks, including JP Morgan Chase, Barclays, Citigroup, Royal Bank of Scotland and UBS. Watch this set off a chain reaction in those who will follow suit.

#25:
August 11th, 2015: China (a very influential BRICS member) shocks the markets and the Wall Street banking cartel by devaluing the Yuan by 2%.

#26:
August 12th, 2015: China throws a second punch and devalues the Yuan by another 1.6 %. Two explosions, which are being labeled as nuclear by some, went off in Tianjin, China just 1 day after the bold currency move. As of this writing, 4 explosions have taken place and are suspected as retaliation against the Chinese by the Wall Street banking cartel.

#27:
August 13th, 2015: China devalues the Yuan for the 3rd consecutive day, down a total of 4.65%. As one financial expert wrote, this was “the haymaker.” In layman’s terms, China erased almost 5 years worth of “controlled appreciations” in 3 days. Thus, China (and the BRICS Alliance) just told Wall Street and Washington D.C./London, “we are in full control here and you will play ball by the rules.”

#28:
August 14th, 2015: China once again shocked the world by announcing an updated total of the gold reserves, just 29 days after their last update. In the past, they have updated their reserve total only every 5 or 6 years. Clearly, a transition to the gold standard is at hand. This is the last thing the fiat-based U.S. Dollar and central banking cabal wants and can afford.

#29:
August 24th, 2015: David Wilcock releases a new update stating that his inside sources are telling him the geopolitical situation playing out between the banking cabal and the BRICS alliance is reaching a crescendo.

#30:
August 28th, 2015: North Korea and South Korea agree to hold peace talks as North Korea’s Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un said the agreement is a “landmark occasion” in the road to “reconciliation” and “trust.” Is the banking cabal’s influence over South Korea being dismantled? Its well known they have long controlled South Korea and have infiltrated their governance as a means to keep the two Koreas divided. Secondly, the more that unity and peace spreads, the quicker the cabal falls…and they know this.

#31:
August 31st, 2015: In an article that I highly recommend, the author perfectly describes what China, Russia and the BRICS alliance are doing to the U.S. Dollar and thus to the banking cabal by China dumping billions of Dollars worth of U.S. Treasuries. I’ll leave you with this quote from the article: “China, Russia and much of the international community is signaling that they’re prepared and strapped in… they’re in the cockpit, and have punched their ‘hyper-drive.’ De-dollarization will quicken to warp speed. Eurasia is ready for this rocket ride to begin… and to benefit, on their balance sheets, from the gold (and silver) revaluations shortly to take place.”

#32:
September 1st, 2015: Vladamir Putin drafts a bill aimed at eliminating, yes eliminating, the U.S. Dollar and Euro from trade between CIS countries, which includes Russia, Belarus, Armenia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and other countries of the former Soviet Union.

#33:
September 3rd, 2015: Guatemala erupts in protests calling for the resignation of their President. He does resign and is jailed in connection to a corruption scandal.

#34:
September 3rd, 2015: 34 Senators have committed to support the Iran nuclear deal, which again, is a huge blow to the cabal’s plans. In addition, Saudi Arabia’s King Salman visited Washington over the weekend and has given support to the deal as well. Saudi Arabia, who was once a strong ally to the Bush/Clinton/Israeli syndicate, has essentially turned its back on them.

#35:
September 3rd, 2015: The Japan Bank for International Cooperation announced that it is in the process of turning to currency swaps in rubles (and NOT U.S. Dollars) with several large Russian banks. Remember that Japan was of the two (the U.S. was the other) notable nations that did not join the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank in late June. It seems as though major regime changes are taking place behind closed doors in Japan. Stay tuned.

#37:
September 6th, 2015: Over 105,000 people, including union leaders and Labour Members of Parliament, have signed the petition to arrest Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu for war crimes. Since the petition has reached over 100,000 signatures, the British Parliament must officially consider a debate on the situation.

#38:
September 6th, 2015: Neil Keenan released a new update regarding the global collateral accounts and the stage of the game he and his team are at in legally bringing down multiple very large banks and bankers. For those that don’t know, the global collateral accounts are the single largest financial cover-up in the world to date and have been illegally used and abused by many different banking institutions, governments and corporations. These accounts have strong ties to the assassination of JFK and to 9/11. I cannot over-emphasize the importance of learning about the global collateral accounts and passing that information on to others. Neil has said that it is expected to be around and possibly before January 2016 that very large fireworks (a positive for humanity) take place involving, all the big banks and several governments and corporations. The wait is coming to an end.

#39:
Now: You are here on the planet at this time to make a wonderful contribution. Please continue playing your role for the benefit of us all.

The Final Word

It is clear that something big is happening. Use this information to move forward with optimism and hope. Share with your friends. Discuss with your friends. Continue to search and dig for the truth. Two people I strongly suggest the reader looking into are Benjamin Fulford, the whistleblower who was the Asia Pacific Bureau Chief for Forbes Magazine and is listed in stories number 21 and 22, and Neil Keenan, who is working with many well-connected sources to open up the global collateral accounts. These accounts are what President Kennedy was reportedly assassinated over and are what the banking elite does not want the public to know exists.
This revolution WILL NOT be televised.


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by RamblerNash
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