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my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 08:09:47 AM »
My brother reconnected with a female friend from grade school about 9 months ago and they are going to get married in May 2018. She is a nice girl with a good heart. However, she is really excited about the Iraqi Dinar RV (re-evaluation) that is going to happen within the next 3-6 months (according to her). 

She pretty much brain washed my brother into buying into this idea. My brother has a 4 year degree in Business Entrepreneurship. He is all about the high risk and high reward type of thing. He tried and failed a few MLM businesses over the last 5-10 years. She graduated high school. They are both 36. 

However, this type of business scheme is a little bit of a stretch for my brother, but not entirely uncommon. 

My brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my birthday last June and for Christmas. He also bought it for my wife and 1 year old son. We have about 400,000 of Iraqi Dinar, which I think is about 325 US dollars. He is giving me a hard sell to buy some for myself or I could miss out on some big profits of 100 to 1, when it re-evaluates. 
 
The best article I could find out about it is below. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jayadkisson/2012/07/30/you-cant-fix-stupid-the-iraqi-dinar-scam-lives/#3f398ae3150b

1) Any chance that I could politely tell my brother to stop buying me this crap?

2) Any chance that I could politely tell my brother to stop buying it for himself? 

3) How do the sellers make money? Do they just give the buyer a poor exchange rate?

4) What is the best way to convert my Iraqi Dinar back into US currency? 

Thank you.
« [i]Last Edit: December 27, 2017, 01:35:31 PM by clarkfan1979[/i] »



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #1 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 12:32:17 PM »
Good luck getting him to change his mind...

As for converting them to US dollars, ask your bank/credit union. There is usually one bank in the area that specializes in currency. In my area (Salt Lake City) it is Zion’s Bank. Call first. 

Good Luck




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #2 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM »
Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?

That not being the case, here's my thinking, for what it's worth (which should be very little, since, as admitted above, I have zero familiarity with the topic): If there's even a small chance of the "100 to 1" valuation, why not hold onto the stuff for now, just for fun? 

As for your questions:

1) Good luck with that. Forbes is well-known and as far as I know has a good reputation; could you send him that article?

2) See (1) above.

3 & 4) No effing clue. 



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #3 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:22:33 PM »
So when the Iraqis lop off a couple of zeroes off the currency, you'll basically be left with monopoly money.

The old banknotes obviously cease to be legal tender, with new ones issued in replacement.

People are still falling for Zimbabwe money scams. Looks like the scammers are expanding their repertoire...



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #4 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:37:20 PM »
Quote from: Miss Piggy on December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM

Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?

That not being the case, here's my thinking, for what it's worth (which should be very little, since, as admitted above, I have zero familiarity with the topic): If there's even a small chance of the "100 to 1" valuation, why not hold onto the stuff for now, just for fun? 

As for your questions:

1) Good luck with that. Forbes is well-known and as far as I know has a good reputation; could you send him that article?

2) See (1) above.

3 & 4) No effing clue. 




I modified the topic. Thank you for the suggestion.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #5 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:59:24 PM »
On a side note, don't lend them money, and don't let them know how much you have. Just in case.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #6 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 02:07:08 PM »
Oh, the glorious Christmas gift of ENTERTAINMENT!   ClarkFan1979, so sorry you had to be the conduit for this pile of chuckles.  At least he is giving to you, not (so far) trying to get you to buy his wares, as so often happens in MLMs.  In my own mind, I will classify him as Kindhearted Bro until further notice.

Re your questions:
1. Of course you can tell him, but why rain on his parade?  He is not going to learn from you, only from experience, if at all.  He will, however, feel the love or disdain in your response.  Tell him you admire his bold spirit, and ask him if he's going to take you to Acapulco or Dubai when his dinars revalue.

2. See 1.  

3. I was wondering that myself.  I can only assume they sell above the exchange rate, or sell counterfeits, or sell the old notes that have been replaced by new ones when the Iraqi government lopped three zeroes off a few years ago (I read that Forbes article).  Best guess: selling the valueless old notes at the price of the new notes.  Great margins, plus they can appear to be giving zero markup.

4. Exchange it for Bitcoin!  Bwahaha, my whole response was just to make this one brief joke.  

Quiet times here, hope this offered a shred of amusement.  In all seriousness, I once had a friend whose financial schemes ranged from wild failure to just being broke on a regular basis.  The choice was to enjoy to his merry ways at the price of observing his failures, or block him off and wonder what was happening.  I chose to enjoy his merry ways.  Even more so, a relative is someone you don't want to block off unless staying connected is actively harmful.  Good luck getting rid of the bills or coins.  And having lost a relative or two in recent year, treasure your brother for who he is, even if it's not (fortunately!!) who you are.   Cheers.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #7 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 02:47:28 PM »
Quote from: Miss Piggy on December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM

Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?



Yes, huge disappointment. :p

+1 to exchange for Bitcoin.
+1 for being supportive to Kindhearted Bro, who sincerely thinks this will lead to mega riches and wants to share that prospect with you.

Answers to 1 & 2)
Explain that although you support him, you're a much more conservative investor and would prefer index funds instead... or traditional gifts such as clothes, gift cards, gadgets (even if you don't like them/need them it would still be preferable to his MLM stuff).




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #8 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 04:16:39 PM »
How does everyone NOT know this scam.  This is older than the Nigerian prince scam.  Go convert all that junk into real money.  Tell your brother that's what you did and if he gives you any more, you'll do it again.  Your brother should sell Amway.  Way better chance of making money than with this scam.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #9 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 02:48:45 AM »
I had some left over from Iraq deployments and eventually sold it all on Ebay. 

Ask your brother this... how can he explain the 100 to 1 value increase?  So you're saying an Iraqi could take his dinar and suddenly be 100x richer if he changes it to dollars (after the valuation)?  We're about to be flooded with Iraqi millionaires then. 

Secondly, if it was a real 'investment', then real rich folks would be buying every single dinar they could get their hands on.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #10 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 06:30:38 AM »
If your brother is anything like mine, tell him this is the best idea he’s ever had and you wished you thought of it. Tell him you support him 100% and you’d invest everything you have except you can’t but that he should right away. Cause if your brother is anything like mine, he’ll do the opposite of whatever you tell him and reject all of your advice.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #11 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 07:19:07 AM »
This scam has been going on for almost a decade. 

I have met quite a few people over the years who have tried to get me to "buy in". 

Good luck.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #12 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 08:32:11 AM »
Say thank you for the gift. Turn it into USD and invest it. Leave the issue alone. You are not going to solve your brother's problem.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #13 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 01:29:25 PM »
It's ironic that this is getting posted today. I was listening to NPR this morning and they had a segment on the Iraqi government's estimate on the cost to rebuild the destruction caused by ISIS. Unfortunately, no one is willing to help them finance the reconstruction effort and I imagine the Iraqi dinar will take a bigger hit when the government starts printing more money to rebuild. 

Zimbabwe Dollars though...those have value. I keep a few of those notes around around my MegaCorp office just in case we have a bad quarter in terms of revenue. For some reason my bosses don't seem to derive much comfort from the fact that if we're behind I can give them 10 BILLION DOLLARS!!!1!



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #14 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 01:47:20 PM »
Oh this brings back memories of a nutter I knew a few years ago. I think the north Korean currency is the other one these folks also say is set to explode.  

I suppose it could be entertaining reading.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #15 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 02:28:57 PM »
I bought some when I was deployed in 2004-2005. About $200 worth (250,000 dinar). Last time I checked it's gone up in value to about $210. I suppose that's better than if I had left it in a savings account but had it been in an index fund it would have doubled or tripled since then. I can't recall what the rate of return has been but it's something like 1-2% over 12-13 years.

It was neat to pull it out and show my kids as I had a mix of various bills. That's about it though. It's just a souvenir at this point. Maybe I should sell some of it to your brother?



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #16 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 06:48:28 PM »
Sell it to your brother Smile




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #17 on:[/b] December 31, 2017, 08:53:21 AM »
Thank you for the help. I will continue to support my brother with his business adventures, but not contribute any of my own money. 
 
I'm going to try to exchange it within the next 2-3 days. Not all currency exchange businesses will exchange the Dinar. I'm guessing there is a higher risk of counterfeit. Hopefully my Dinar is not counterfeit.  I will find out soon. 



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #18 on:[/b] January 06, 2018, 08:52:45 PM »
I exchanged the Iraqi Dinar currency today for US dollars. An internet search today claims that $400,000 Iraqi Dinar is worth $337 US dollars. I went to the currency exchange in Denver at the Cherry Creek mall. They gave me $230 US dollars, minus a $5 fee for a total of $225. I have heard that a currency exchange will change 20%. However, this was a 33% fee. 

Maybe the fee is higher because of a higher level chance of fraud? When I looked at their board of exchange rates it looks like they charged only 15% for more legitimate currencies.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #19 on:[/b] January 06, 2018, 10:52:03 PM »
Quote from: clarkfan1979 on January 06, 2018, 08:52:45 PM

I exchanged the Iraqi Dinar currency today for US dollars. An internet search today claims that $400,000 Iraqi Dinar is worth $337 US dollars. I went to the currency exchange in Denver at the Cherry Creek mall. They gave me $230 US dollars, minus a $5 fee for a total of $225. I have heard that a currency exchange will change 20%. However, this was a 33% fee. 

Maybe the fee is higher because of a higher level chance of fraud? When I looked at their board of exchange rates it looks like they charged only 15% for more legitimate currencies.



They'll just be profiting on the currency spread. They might sell that 400,000 dinar to someone for $400 later on. The more common currencies that'll be easier for them to on-sell (and potentially less volatile) will probably have more competitive rates. Smile

I've got some Sri Lankan rupees I've been meaning to sell from when I was there last year. They're valued at 120LKR to the Australian dollar at present (based on xe.com rates), but the currency conversion place will buy them at 140LKR to the AUD. I paid about 105-110 when I bought them Smile




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #20 on:[/b] January 07, 2018, 05:43:33 PM »
Wowza, the spread on Polish Zlote (PLN) is about .02-.03PLN per dollar, or about one cent. 

33% sounds insane, so does 15%. 




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #21 on:[/b] January 07, 2018, 08:39:04 PM »
The thread reminded me that I have a butter tub of Saudi Riyals from Desert Storm.
I'll have to count it and see what it's worth.




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For a private home phone, use a company name when setting up a new phone account, rather than your own, and make sure and get caller ID, complete blocking. To add a further level of phone privacy, purchase a prepaid cell phone – such as those offered by Trac Fone through Blockbuster, WalMart, and Staples.

No name, address, credit check, etc. is required to set up an account, and you can buy phone cards for cash to add more time. As of 11/11 Wal-Mart sells i-phones for less than $100 and Unlimited internet, text and talk for $55 per month. This is a fabulous rate!!!

#7 A.) (TWO PARTS) . Keep your medical records more private. Information in your medical files can be used to deny you insurance, jobs, and legal benefits. It could be even used by a government just slightly more authoritarian than the one we now have, to take away your children or commit one elsewhere.

Unfortunately, each time you see a doctor or check into a hospital or clinic, they will usually demand your Social Security Number, which in turn will be used to file and locate your medical records.

You can protect yourself from unwanted snooping by getting an alternative Medical photo ID from ID Network (IDN). No SSN is required, and medical records are kept in your own handwriting. $9.95. Call 1-888-329-3686 or 314-416-7411, http://www.idnetwork.com.

#7 PART B: In the civilized society, we each have a crucial zone of privacy shielding us from outside snooping and control. Privacy is about keeping more of what you earn – protecting the sensitive information in your computer - avoiding being hassled by the IRS or police – protecting your children – and minimizing your chances of a 2 am visit by a machine-gun-toting SWAT team.

The battle for your privacy is the battle for your freedom. Ultimately it is a battle we will win. AMEN.

**********

#8. EXCHANGE TIME : these are suggestions to consider; you decide what IS BEST UNDER YOUR SITUATION. THERE ARE MANY OPTIONS HERE FOR PRECAUTIONARY MEASURES. The wolves inside and outside the bank can be few to many in different clothing. Your Life and Your Life Savings may be at RISK.

# 9. Do not park in the bank lot. Why show your car tags to others that will jot them down and trace u? A camera can take a photo of you and your tags for blocks away. Take a taxi or rental car to the banks.

# 10.. Go with someone to the bank; spouse, best friend who is a fellow Dinarian. Caps and glasses are nice. Make no new friends at the bank or locally who might discover your fortunes.

#11.. Make an appointment , if required, to make the 'exchange'.

#12. Know your rate before you go. Have a predetermined game plan. Shop your rates. Seek investment angles, advice also from maybe Smith Barney, Scottrade Inc, etc, various options.

# 13. Watch your body language, look and play the part of Investor. MANY maybe WATCHING. Use dressy attire but no jeans or T's.

#14.There is NO rush to cash in; supposedly many weeks and option days to have the possible 15% tax advantage with no audits (this is still a rumor; will be confirmed sooner or later next week). Seek competent tax and legal advice.
 
#15. If your deposit is in an acct "non interest bearing savings acct" this should be Dodd-Frank. check with your banker. NIB accts are usually unlimited in coverage.

#16. SMITH BARNEY or MORGAN STANLEY INC. OR SCOTTRADE INC ET and others can re-insure your accounts somewhere in the $600,000 TO ONE BILLION $$ range per account.

Seek legal advice and the broker / company policies. DO NOT LEAVE SIGNIFICANT LARGE SUMS IN INSTITUtIONS UNLESS ITS RE-INSURED; IE: LLOYDS IN


#17. AFTER MAKING YOUR INITIAL DEPOSIT; TRANSFER IT TO ANOTHER INTEREST FREE CHECKING ACCT WITHIN THE WEEK; SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. THIS PREVENTS WIRE TRANSFER AGENTS AND PAST BANK KNOWING YOUR NEW ACCT #!! (AGAIN, PLEASE FILTER ALL THIS DATA. YOU DECIDE WHICH WORKS FOR U, BUT TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE AND WAITING IS NOT HEALTHY FOR THESE ISSUES AND ACTIONS HEREIN "MAY SAVE YOUR LIFE".

# 18. ONLY USE YOUR PASSPORTS FOR IDS: IT DOES NOT HAVE YOUR HOME ADDRESS, SOCIAL SECURITY # TIED IN. Avoid using your Drivers License for anything but the cops and court when or if mandated!

#19. Use UPS postal drop for home address or your attorney's office work address until you get things squared away about physical addresses. Never use one's home address for anything, especially: mail, fed ex, UPS, !!! Have your bank statements go to a Po Box! Never let one's attorney know how much money you have.

#20. IMHO, "Irrevocable Business Trust" or a "Irrevocable Spendthrift Trust" saves your wealth, health and happiness from the tax man. . It's Worth every penny and more. Trusts are much more apt to protect large estates. Revocable Trust hold little or no water with the IRS & States.

#21: IMHO: Legalshield.com or in some states, PREPAID LEGAL INC.: for family, business, Wills, IRS audits, Citations, legal situations. 100's of legal help issues that may give legal piece of Mind and ease the pocketbook too. Attorneys are assigned within your State to handle your cases. Some situations are outsourced to qualified attorneys within your state and they contact you. Fees average $17-49 monthly.

#22: BEWARE/ ALERT: RFID )))) RADIO FREQUENCY ID. RADIO CHIPS MAYBE INSIDE YOUR CREDIT CARD. IT IS ELECTRONIC ‘PICK-POCKETING’ OF ANOTHER’S CREDIT CARD # AND EXPIRATION DATE. LOOK FOR SYMBOL)))) OR POSSIBLE OTHER SYMBOLS. ONE’S CARD # AND EXPIRATION DATE INFO CAN BE COPIED ONTO SOMEONE’S ‘HOTEL ROOM KEY’.

THEFT DEVICE CAN BE BOUGHT FOR $100. KEEP ALL CREDIT CARDS INSIDE ALUMINUM /METAL SLEEVE OR CASE.

HACKERS CAN GET YOUR CARD #S VERY EASILY. SEE THIS VIDEO AND BEWARE. ‘RFID’ CHIPS ARE IN 33% OF CREDIT CARDS MADE TODAY. TAKE CAUTION NOW. THESE CHIPS CAN ALSO BE IN YOUR SOON TO BE BANK “BLACK DEBIT CARDS”. THIS COULD GET COSTLY AND DANGEROUS AT THE SAME TIME. IT’S BEST NOT TO HAVE ‘RFID’ CREDIT CARDS.

CHECK WITH YOUR BANK ON ‘CASH-IN’ / ‘CURRENCY EXCHANGE’ TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT ISSUED ANY TYPE OF “ RADIO FREQUENCY RFID )))) “ CREDIT CARDS ON ANY OF YOUR CURRENT (AND FUTURE) ACCOUNTS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLAFhTjsQHw&sns=em

#23 (#23-36 WERE ADDED 7/16/12): Reduce Your Risk of Identity Theft: Traveling (for business or pleasure) can increase your exposure to financial risk. Here are some simple tips to protect yourself and reduce the risk of identity theft as you head out on your summer vacation.

#24: Clean out your wallet: Take only your essential documents, like your driver’s license and just 2 credit cards – one to carry and one to leave in the safe at the hotel in case your wallet is lost or stolen. Don’t carry your social security card in your wallet – ever. Leave your extra credit cards or identifications documents at home. Men – keep your wallet in a buttoned pocket, women – wear a purse with wide straps and locking clasps, and don’t hang it on the door when you use a public restroom.

#25: Leave your checkbook at home:  You shouldn’t need it if you have credit cards. Leave your bills and private papers at home, too.

#26: Make a copy of your travel documents: Copy your passport, driver’s license, airline confirmations, etc. Leave it with a trusted friend in case you need help, or keep a copy safely tucked inside a suitcase pocket in case the original gets lost or stolen. Make a list of what you have in your wallet, along with the phone numbers on the back of your cards.

#27: Stop your mail or have a neighbor pick it up: A full mailbox with bank statements and credit card bills is a sure sign for hackers and thieves that you are not at home. Also, stop the newspaper, and don’t broadcast your travel plans on social networking sites.

#28: Alert your credit and debit card issuers: Let them know where you are traveling, how you may be reached, and when you will return. This helps the fraud department stop charges that may not be yours, and reduces the risk that your cards will be “frozen” due to unusual activity when you are away from home and can’t be reached

#29: Keep an eye on your cell phone: Many people are storing user ID’s and passwords and other personal information on their cell phones. Secure your phone with a security code so that it can’t be accessed if it is lost or stolen.

#30: Consider a temporary credit freeze: A freeze will deny access to your credit history, so ID thieves can’t open accounts while you are away. Setting up a freeze through the three credit reporting bureaus – Transunion, Experian and Equifax – takes time and money, so this is the most beneficial if you are planning a period of prolonged travel.

#31: Look for safer ATMs: If you need cash withdrawals, ATMs in bank lobbies are less vulnerable to devices used to capture your information, and are usually better lit and safer in general. They are also more likely to have surveillance cameras.

#32: Be careful with computers in hotels and other public places: Don’t access your financial data on hotel or other public computers or public Wi-Fi networks. Public computers may have spy-ware or malware installed which could record everything you type. Be sure to log out of any sites that you may access before leaving the PC.

#33: Beware of front desk calls: If you receive a call from a “clerk” saying that they need to re-enter your credit card number, hang up and call the front desk yourself. You don’t now who is at the other end of that call.

#34: A few simple steps will go a long way in protecting you and your information and prevent your vacation or business trip from turning into a headache. If you have any concerns about your personal information, notice any suspicious account activity, or experience a customer information security-related event, contact your bank branch immediately so that they can assist you.

#35: ONLY PUT ONE'S PO BOX ADDRESS ON THEIR CHECKS. NEVER PLACE BIRTHDATE OR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS OR EVEN PHONE NUMBER ON YOUR CHECKS. MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR THE WOLVES/THIEVES IF THEY TAKE ONE'S CHECKBOOK.

#36: ACT IMMEDIATELY AND ACCORDINGLY TO PROTECT ONESELF, FAMILY, BUSINESS. ONE OR TWO MINUTES COULD SAVE : TIME, MONEY, GRIEF, UNTOLD PAPERWORK & CHAOS!

#37: Any major ideas or investments, always bounce it off someone you trust like your CPA, Attorney or Investment advisors. Many are ashamed to admit they've been taken advantage of or conned. Do not be over-trusting, nieve or gullible.. When or if someone tries to interest you in a venture involving money /investments, say, "I'll discuss this with my real estate agent, CPA or lawyer and get back to you." Then talk with someone you trust.

#38: further info on personal identity: Scam-proof your communications by taking control of your personal information. Put your phone numbers (home and cell) on the Do Not Call Registry. Opt out from the sale or sharing of your personal information by contacting the three credit bureaus, your state department of motor vehicles, the Direct Marketing Association and companies with which you do business. Thieves cull your information and use it to open bogus accounts that can ruin your credit scores, credit and make your life absolutely miserable.

For more information on how to remove yourself from these databases, see the Federal Trade Commission's Web page on sharing your personal information.

#39: Don’t Trust Your Caller ID: Never do business over the phone, unless you initiate the call. Here's why: No matter what your caller ID might say, you don't really know who's on the other end of the line. If you place the call yourself, divulging personal information isn't as risky. If you receive a call from someone who claims to be with your bank, insurance company or some other place where you do business -- unless you recognize the caller -- say you'll call back. That will give you time to make sure the number is legitimate. Simply call the company's published number and ask to speak to the individual who called you, or to someone in the appropriate department.

#40: Ways to make using a debit card safer include the following: Run your purchases as credit so you don't have to input your PIN. & Always double-check your card when a clerk, cashier or waiter hands it back to you and make certain it's the same card you handed over.

Be suspicious of people who want to stand too close to you when you're using your debit card, particularly when they are using a cellphone. They could be recording your debit card information with their camera

#41: Regard All Links With Suspicion: Social networking can be a great way to keep up with friends and family, but scammers have found the Internet a gold mine of opportunity. Most of us know not to click on links in emails from people we don't know or to acknowledge those silly get-rich-quick schemes from strangers, but you should never underestimate a con artist's creativity.

For instance, a recent scam on Facebook involves a fake game based on the "Twilight" series. Fans are prompted to click on the link, exposing their personal information to scammers.

Best rule of thumb: Be on your guard and never click on links of unknown origin. Check on them by running a search with the relevant keyword (in this case, "Twilight") and "complaint" or "scam."

42# Safeguard Online Activities: Don't join the thousands who fall victim to online identity theft schemes each year. Some are as simple as planting a keystroke logger on your computer to copy your private information, while others involve complicated email exchanges.

Here are some of the best strategies for avoiding online fraud:

Don't ever respond to emails asking for your account information since they are almost always fakes.

Never click on links embedded in emails (even a friend or relative can accidentally pass along a virus). If you must see that funny video, type the URL directly into your browser.

#43: When you decide to purchase from an online merchant, always make certain that you're dealing with a reputable site. Check for complaints and never click on a link; instead, as with email links, type the company's correct URL into your browser.

Make it a habit to double-check that order forms are secure before completing them. Instead of the standard "http," the URL will begin with "https," which indicates a secure transmission.

#44: DOUBLE REMINDER : Don't forget to maintain up-to-date, functioning security software and a firewall WITH latest up to date Online Protection.

#45: Guard your medical insurance information and ALL PERSONAL INFORMATION OF ANY NATURE with the same zeal as you do your financial data. the National Health Care Anti-Fraud Association says the fallout from medical fraud can damage your credit rating, open you to litigation and even result in your receiving improper medical care. "Always examine your explanation of benefits for treatments that you didn't have," he says.

THE LESS INFO there is out there about you, the harder you are to target. Make the con artists' jobs difficult by avoiding their scam tactics. They don't deserve to score off your hard work.

* #s 37-45 contributed in part by : Former policewoman Carole Moore,author of "The Last Place You'd Look: True Stories of Missing Persons and the People Who Search for Them."

Read more: 8 ways to avoid getting conned

http://www.bankrate.com/finance/personal-finance/8-ways-to-avoid-becoming-a-successful-mark-1.aspx#ixzz217YsBOtg

ALL CONTRIBUTORS, INFO, IDEAS ARE SINCERELY APPRECIATED TO HELP DINARIANS AROUND THE PLANET. I LOVE YOU ALL. BLESSINGS. LAST UPDATE 11/11/12.
by Ssmith
on Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:58 am
 
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Frank26 Call Notes 12/4/17

(Part 3 of 3)



Ummm and it was three phases…yep yep and there was one phase, one week a second week and then a third week. Really. Would you call these “classes”? YOU SAW THE ARTICLE FAMILY! I’m not making this up. Word for word literally of what we’ve been telling you. All three classes defined in that little statement about the 60 trainees. It was over weeks ago!

Their media is just now catching up. How you all doing? Are we ok? You mind if I keep talking a little more? I’ll try to finish up to hurry up... I guess not.. there’s still too much!

So yea 60 trainees, 2000 employees trainees you know they talked about the meetings about the electronic dinars, they talked about the cc’s you know they talked about educating their bank employees you know they talked about the no paper issuing. You saw that in the article. You know they talked about the three zeros in the sense that they have not said they are not lifting them.

2000 trainees of private bank employees “Iraq private banks league association of private banks in Iraq has trained over 60 or more employees that are ready to go on the subject of risk management training. On the subject of laws. Really? You mean on the subject of new equipment electronic dinars of convertible currency. Yea this is all fantastic but yet ironically enough… These are old articles. Yea.

Every one of these things I’m giving you right now they are all old articles. Let me give you another example. I’m holding it up This is Post #11 that was brought to us by Delta about two hours ago on our Forum. I think page 1 and it says here that “Al Quattras Islamic bank live with new core banking system.” It’s called the BML Yea this is great. This is a start up the Al Quattras has gone with its core banking system the ICBS supplied by the Lebanon bank banking technical vendors.. Yep we’ve got this all set. Yesiree.

And by the way… What? The bank’s we embarked on this implement last year. And the article is just now coming out to you? You see in blue “implementation last year”. As exciting as this is, because it is part of the monetary reform and as exciting it is that Delta brought it to us. (Frank crumples up the article and throws it behind him) It goes in the fireplace because it’s over a year old and many of these articles we are talking about right now prove our June July August September October November and into the 4th of December . Remember—if it is in print, it’s happened already!

But you KTFA family you had the advantage. You had the advantage to know through our teams especially through Walkingstick before any of these things happened in June, July, August September, October, November and into December. We at KTFA are spoiled. Praise God! . With our study because monetary reform study comes to you too fast. And I have to time it. It comes to you before the media even brings it to you. And it makes me look like a liar.

Then you find yourself at a point of disadvantage because you are ahead of the curve in the study that we bring you. And you end up saying to me: “Well what happened, Frank?” I thought you said… “ hmm. Frank you lied”.

Ummm no. actually they have had the 1st 2nd & 3rd classes. They have all been certified. They’ve lifted three zeros. They are paying everybody in e-dinars. They are paying them in 100% dinars. There is a speech coming and this Saturday you are going to see what it’s going to do.

There are ATMs that are loaded, there are banks across the borders, there are laws ready to kick in the budget and their economic and monetary reform. The HCL is with a rider inside the budget waiting for the new calculations, the budget was recalculated at 1:1. Etc, etc, etc. We told you all these things. I asked you to take these conference calls to God in prayer so that you would understand these things.

We told you these things in the same manner that Abadi is now telling you that. You know it’s really important the concept of .teachers. it’s really important to educate. It’s really important to have propaganda. It’s really important to clarify, its really important to have licensed all of our private banks in Iraq. To the point where he comes out and he says quote; “ Prime Minister Abadi emphasizes the importance of the role of the teachers in society”. Because they are teaching them right now family. The next step of their lives.

How you all doing? Every body OK?. Still about 20 more pages. I don’t know what to do but I’m not going to stop. I’m going to continue. Are you Ok with this guys? And if you’re not you just go ahead and go home or turn me off and go to sleep and… it’s ok.

I told you that the intersection of the collision of four things that we have studied or that we suggested to you in my opinion are coming to a violent collision because it is Abadi’s timing. And you can see this collision that is coming about can’t you!

Now did we not also suggest to you, family, around the first quarter of next year oil prices are going to go up.
“No they’re not Frank”.
“Yea they might even reach about 100 dollars”.
“No they’re not Frank”
“Well, yea.. they are.
We said that oil prices will climb right after the RI. They will go up to about 70 or 80 dollars. Yea. They sure will. It’s called timing.

The American dollar will be asset backed sometime around my birthday. The United States of America has a kaka load! Sorry the United States of America has a lot of oil and they are now using our oil that we had for decade upon decades in storage we are now using it to calculate the asset back of the American dollar. Family that’s called “timing”!

The American dollar is being prepared not for an RI but for an RV basket. All of this is just in my opinion because I have no idea what I’m talking about.

Delta wanted to say hi to one of the members of our forum Iron Man. Hey Iron Man. I love your avatar of Iron man. Delta says if you’re going to be Iron Man he’s going to be “Dinar Man”! (Laughing) that’s OK with me.

Yes indeed family in my opinion there is a lot of leakage. A lot of spillage of information though the articles and through the videos. Now on the 9th of December—a speech louder than Krakatoa will go around the world and echo out into the Universe.

I mentioned to you our friend Tank. Not only did he bring that article I talked to you about. He also brought you articles about buying a car. Tank says “really. That kind of proves what Frank has been saying about the first second and third zero. I’m going to buy me a car”. Shoot! (laughing)

We have a member on our forum by the name of Big Jess says “There sure is a lot of evidence of the three zeros being lifted.” In my opinion and your Big Jess, indeed, indeed indeed!

Oh by the say I told you family, “it’s going to shine like a diamond. Because it will be more valuable than oil. Than diamonds and gold and anything. Water”! The war between the provinces the drought of the marshes is the most prominent manifestation thus it will raise the scarcity of water. And a new crisis in Iraq will begin.

But you know that don’t you family. How many articles have you seen in the last two weeks? Yea. Abadi said that after the speech that we are waiting for him to make that the economic and the monetary reform would literally just BOOM! EXPLODE!

Family, the speech is for Abadi to brag. I’ve told you that before. About security and stability because that’s how we were frozen. That’s how we were put on pause in Januray of 2017 by the Governor of the Central bank of Iraq.
“We need security and stability”.

Family we have it! And so so much more! For the monetary reform. All heck. All heck will break loose I think it’s too late I think it’s already breaking loose! But there’s going to be a whole lot more after this speech. The celebration of the liberation of Iraq.

Abadi said quote (and you don’t have this article by the way): “My speech is to release and to announce that we have released all territories of all terrorism.” When you read that article just smile.

So the United States Senate and the House have passed a tax bill. Family that’s called timing! Timing does Abadi good besides milk.

So we have some interesting things. I would really really strongly suggest that you go back. You go back family now and see how we started our conference call. We are headed towards the end. I can see people already falling asleep here all around me here. Hang in there! Trust me I want to go to sleep.

But the evidence of the lifting of the three zeros is all around us family. And the articles that Delta has brought in, that Tank has brought in. There is no doubt about it. Iraq’s banking system is ready to connect with international systems. I’m telling you if I hear anybody with a negative attitude I’m afraid I’m going to have to do something about that. Go outside and get me a stick! (Laughing) A big one! (Laughing) Because you need to shape up!

They no longer need a mediator. They no longer need the auctions. What they are telling you is they don’t need a program rate. But they can’t do any of this under Article 14. So let us pray to God that the ability to wire money directly outside means that they have dropped the three zeros and they are Article VIII! Because I cannot understand articles that are showing me trillions into billions into millions. I guess that was just meant confuse me. I don’t know.

But what they are doing right now is not at all confusing. No not at all. The long line… they know very well what is going on and they are not stupid the way I suggested. And they came to the International Fair inside of Iraq in preparation to listen to the speech that’s going to be held on the 9th by Abadi to tell them they are fully liberated. And the invitation to come into their country is not so lackadaisical or irresponsible.

They are prepared to go international.

In my opinion the interview and the words “convertible” whatever you want to say that Allak said to Bloomberg in that interview, it gave the Fair that is there right now a clue. And the clue started a long time ago with a lady by the name of Christine Legarde.

And finally, or at least close to the end here: FDIC. Allak, the governor of the central bank said that they have confirmed that the insurance is coming in. He said in fact Delta was talking about it. He used the Arabic words it called Grabi Jitman. Grabi Jitman means imminent. The FDIC soon, imminent, very quickly… you don’t need insurance for a program rate! Bozo!

They sure are explaining a lot aren’t they family without saying a lot. Because that is the road they walk on right now. It’s a rice paper road that can rip at any moment. They have to be careful what they are saying because they are doing.

Finally Walkingstick says to me,

“Frank, I told you. He has to say the country is fully liberated. And he’s gonna say it this Saturday. And I told you what would happen afterwards. And I told you I would say good bye.”

This is something that Walkingstick wanted me to tell you once again.

Do not mock us do not think it is so strange that we create things to entertain ourselves with you. When this speech is done, the economic and the monetary reform will do the same thing that I told you would happen once they gave you Mosul. I told you once they give you Mosul, the economic reform and the monetary reform would travel at a speed of light unknown to you.

The ICS for crying out loud. This is a financial system family that is only done for international transactions. Evidence after evidence after evidence that Walkingstick led us in the right direction.

I believe that we are going to see more about Maliki and people that need to be arrested. I believe that there was a reason that the indicative rate disappeared in March and has not come back. It had to empty its spots so that the second book accounting could fill in the gaps. Because they were studying the monetary reform possibilities. TAG came in and finished up the rest of their reserves and told them where they were at. Allak has been talking on as many news medias to tell them what’s going on.

And when you see someone like Jaafari that comes out and he says “I think that they owe us” I think that they should apply the Marshall plan.” I think he says that because he knows that he is about to be arrested.

“We don’t owe you anything”.
“You don’t owe us anything”.
“You owe the world a reinstatement of your currency”

This Marshall plan will come with profits this time around.

We are in the eye of a storm family. We’ve gone through a lot of noise haven’t we! And as soon as this speech is done, we will leave the eye of the storm, the quietness and we will re-enter the loud noises of the monetary and economic reform. We are down to our last 5 minutes.

As I told you on my birthday there will be a possibility of a new American dollar. It will be the lynch pin for the other currencies that are going to be in a basket eventually. The American dollar and the IQD will de-peg and they will enter a basket from the RI into the RV. And that is why the US Treasury right now has done all that it has for the American dollar to put it in a position that it’s in. Family that’s called “Timing”.

And we all know that they are going to release the cc’s the convertible currencies very soon and I would like to show you an example of an Iraqi currency with polymers.

“oh no Frank there’s no polymers right now. No there is no polymer Iraqi currency.”

This is a 25,000 dinar note family and as I get it up as close as possible that is plastic. (Frank shows the bill on Livestream and talks a bit about the plastic polymer parts and watermarks of the bill).

Do you know how hard that is to reproduce? He refers to the band in the bill and says because of the data on that band “they can trace every one of these dinars” Just like the US Treasury can trace every one of its dollars.

This currency has so many safety features. These were printed back in 2015. Actually 2013 the more I think about it. They wanted to make sure they had an accounting of everything. I told you those articles are really late! This is exactly what this country has been doing with its currency. Fascinating. I’m proud of them! Really advanced technology. For a used toilet paper currency? No I don’t think so!

Well family the last and final thing. I want to tell you the last and final thing Walkingstick said to me and here is what it is.

”When he called already about 10-15 minutes into our call I went into another room and he told me a few things and then he said:
“I’ll call you in two days.”
And I said “yes sir” and I said but that’s before Saturday!
“Yea, well I’ll call you in two days. I’ll have something for you.”
“What more could you have for me sir”?

“We are as water is to water” .

Let us pray.
by Ssmith
on Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:18 am
 
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Topic: Frank26 Call Notes 12/4/17
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Top Ten Reasons the Iraqi Dinar RV is a Scam

Reason #11:  Look at the people who are promoting the RV.  A bunch of salesmen with a MLM background.  Some with legal issues - including multiple felonies.  Then there is the Hollow Earth crowd.  



Where are all the people with a background in economics?  Why isn't Wall Street all over this?  Common sense people.......  Use your BRAIN!
by Ssmith
on Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:55 am
 
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Topic: Top Ten Reasons the Iraqi Dinar RV is a Scam
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"15 Reasons USN Stories Are Great News!" - One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. aka Swervy McGee

Topics tagged under 11 on Dinar Daily Richar45
Topics tagged under 11 on Dinar Daily Deadbe22


15 Reasons USN Stories Are GREAT NEWS!



[size=16]Re-posted (5-29-17) by request of One Who Knows
[/size][size=16]/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. aka Swervy McGee

 I have been seeing some USN stories lately and it is a CLEAR sign to me that EVERYTHING we want is right on schedule. The USN is the new Gold Backed currency of the Republic. Here is the latest news on the USN:

"Bank intel, USN" by Geoffrey - 2.25.17

It is so interesting that we are looking for clues all over the place to verify that this top secret World Change over is both REAL and immanent, and yet one single item actually PROVES EVERYTHING! Yes, as the title of this post reveals, it is the USN that tells the whole story and is all the proof we need, that we are actually on track to everything we have been told and promised. Here is how...

#1) USN Means Gold Backed

The fact that the USN has been acknowledged by Banking personnel as well as many others, is PROOF that the New Gold Backed Money is really coming.

#2) Gold Backed Means The World

The fact that there really is new USA Gold Backed Money coming means that all the other countries of the World are going Gold Backed as well since there is no way that we would be the only ones changing.

#3) The World Going Gold Backed Means Equality

If all the countries of the World are Going Gold Backed as well, it only works if their currency values are adjusted to be on par with each other.

#4) World Currencies On Par With Each Other

Having all the World's currencies being adjusted to be on par with each other means that those countries who's currency values are greatly undervalued compared to everyone else are going to be adjusted up, WAY UP, to be on par with the other countries. That MEANS THE GCR IS REAL.

#5) If The GCR is REAL

If the GCR is Real, then anyone who happens to be holding currencies that are greatly undervalued, such as the first basket currencies, will realize a HUGE increase in value when said adjustment happens.

#6) No Double Dipping

Because there is an all go, or none go and a deliberate plan to prevent Double dipping, by reinvesting money from one currency revaluation on the next currency revaluation, they will all go at once. Since all the currencies will go at once, that means that THEY WILL ALL GO, and none of them will be left behind.

#7) Stories of The USN Means Treasury Money

Stories of the USN MEANS that it is our new Treasury that is issuing the money. This means that not only is the Fed Dead, but that the REPUBLIC is Alive!

#8) The Republic Alive Means NESARA

The fact that the Republic is alive and in the process of showing itself, means that NESARA, the new governmental structures are also in the Process as well, since the Republic is based on the new NESARA Principles.

#9) NESARA Means GESARA

The fact that NESARA is coming into action here in the Republic of the United States, means that soon the World will be changing over to GESARA, which is the global version of this same governmental structure and principles.

#10) GESARA Means World Peace

Since GESARA is Coming in to Power all over the World, that means that the World will be at peace from now on and War will no longer be permitted or tolerated by any country in the World.

#11) GESARA & World Peace

GESARA and World Peace also signals multiple trusts that will start paying out Trillions of dollars in many different forms to all the people of the World. These include huge trusts such as the St. Germaine Trust, The Lee Wanta Trust, and many others.

#12) NESARA & GESARA Means New Technologies Released

Another important aspect of the NESARA & GESARA implementation is the release of hidden technologies and health remedies that have been held back by the Cabal. This leads to such things as immediate cures for most medical problems and introduction of free energy devices and anti gravity craft to name a few.

#13) NESARA Means Top Level Arrests & Trials Begin

Another important aspect of the NESARA implementation is the immediate arrests of top Cabal operatives, resignation of all current political positions, and new elections for President and other positions. It also means the resignation from the BAR of all attorneys' and retraining them in Constitutional law.

#14) Bank Awareness Of The USN Means Immanent GCR

The fact that Bank employees are aware of, and acknowledge the USN, means that they have been trained on it, and will be available soon. Additionally, many claim it is in their vaults now and will be released soon.

#15) USN Availability Means CGR

There is no way that the GOLD Backed USN can be distributed, unless the GCR has already happened. If the USN is about to be available, that means the GCR is about to happen.

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The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that while USN reports and stories seem to be of little value, they actually PROVE EVERYTHING IS TRUE AND ABOUT TO HAPPEN. The USN availability means World Gold Back GCR, NESARA/GESARA, World Peace, New Technologies and Health remedies, High Level Cabal Arrests and Trials, New Elections, and the Release of countless Trust to the people of the World. In short, when you have Proof of the USN, you have proof of EVERYTHING!

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams

Signed: One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. aka Swervy McGee
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by Ssmith
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"10 GCR Points to Remember" - One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. 5/14/17

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10 GCR Points To Remember


This post is a refresher of what to expect in the coming GCR. There is a lot upon us and sometimes it gets confusing.

GCR

#1) First Basket Currencies will All Revalue at the same time. When one revalues, they all revalue as well. There will be no opportunity to exchange one and then buy more of the other.

#2) All Denominations of the first Basket Currencies will be Honored. This means every size bill, will be exchangeable. This is especially important to know for the ZIM. Importantly, no zeros will be loped of any notes. They will be accepted at face value for exchange, at the rate you agree on.
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#3) The Zim "Bearer Checks" will be honored and exchanged even though they have expired.

#4) If you have Zim, you will have a DIFFERENT exchange Procedure that includes exchanging at offsite locations, Including military bases, but not limited to them.

#5) Yes, the zim has a special phone number/ account relationship, but don’t worry, your money is actually in Trusts for added protection and "Trusts" have names and not numbers. The phone number you call to set the appointment, is part of your account info with the bank, but not directly associated with any particular money account. In short it identifies you, like your name identifies you to the bank when you call.

#6) You will not be allowed to bring any electronic items into the exchange such as phone, tablet, computers, calculators, etc. Therefore, have a sheet of paper (Master Sheet) that has all your important information written on it, such as Trust names, address, questions you want to ask, etc., for easy reference.

#7) Bring whatever ID you have, bills, passports, DL, ss card, Birth Certificate, photo IDs etc. Some people will have all the IDs they need, and others may not, but all will be helped anyway. Remember that this is a benevolent plan and they realize that some may not have the IDs they need. The bank will work with you on that.

#8) All countries will have exchanges and will have the "Privately Negotiated Rates" available as well, especially for humanitarian projects.

#9) Banks are NOW the safest place in the World to keep your money. Trust the banks, and trust the plan.

#10) HSBC is the main GCR Bank and will eventually have retail branches everywhere. Just because there is no branch near you now, doesn't mean you can't exchange with them and get an account with them. They will be represented at the Exchange centers, especially for the ZIM.

Bonus:

#11) You should call as soon as possible for your appointment, but once you call, you can set an appointment at a time that works for you. You might have a delay due to travel, work, medical, etc. Set the time to go IN for your appointment. I expect that there will be several days or more to call the first number.

#12) Historical Bonds can be redeemed. Tell the operator what you have (Not amount) when you call the first appointment contact number.

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams/Plans

Signed: One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr.
by Ssmith
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Richard Lee McKim, Jr. (One Who Knows) 10 GCR Points To Remember 4/26/17

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10 GCR Points To Remember

This post is a refresher of what to expect in the coming GCR.  There is a lot upon us and sometimes it gets confusing.

GCR

#1) First Basket Currencies will All Revalue at the same time.  When one revalues, they all revalue as well.  There will be no opportunity to exchange one and then buy more of the other.

#2) All Denominations of the first Basket Currencies will be Honored.  This means every size bill, will be exchangeable.  This is especially important to know for the ZIM.  Importantly, no zeros will be loped of any notes.  They will be accepted at face value for exchange, at the rate you agree on.

#3) The Zim "Bearer Checks" will be honored and exchanged even though they have expired.

#4) If you have Zim, you will have a DIFFERENT exchange Procedure that includes exchanging at offsite locations, Including military bases, but not limited to them.

#5) Yes, the zim has a special phone number/ account relationship, but don’t worry, your money is actually in Trusts for added protection and "Trusts" have names and not numbers.  The phone number you call to set the appointment, is part of your account info with the bank, but not directly associated with any particular money account.  In short it identifies you, like your name identifies you to the bank when you call.


#6) You will not be allowed to bring any electronic items into the exchange such as phone, tablet, computers, calculators, etc.  Therefore, have a sheet of paper (Master Sheet)  that has all your important information written on it, such as Trust names, address, questions you want to ask, etc.,  for easy reference.

#7)  Bring whatever ID you have, bills, passports, DL, ss card, Birth Certificate, photo IDs etc.  Some people will have all the IDs they need, and others may not, but all will be helped anyway.  Remember that this is a benevolent plan and they realize that some may not have the IDs they need.  The bank will work with you on that.

#8)  All countries will have exchanges and will have the "Privately Negotiated Rates" available as well, especially for humanitarian projects.

#9)  Banks are NOW the safest place in the World to keep your money.  Trust the banks, and trust the plan.

#10)  HSBC is the main GCR Bank and will eventually have retail branches everywhere.  Just because there is no branch near you now, doesn't mean you can't exchange with them and get an account with them.  They will be represented at the Exchange centers, especially for the ZIM.

Bonus:

#11) You should call as soon as possible for your appointment, but once you call, you can set an appointment at a time that works for you. You might have a delay due to travel, work, medical, etc.  Set the time to go IN for your appointment.  I expect that there will be several days or more to call the first number.

#12) Historical Bonds can be redeemed.  Tell the operator what you have (Not amount) when you call the first appointment contact number.

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams/Plans

Signed: One Who Knows
by Ssmith
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Frank26 --.they are close because Abadi is telling the international world to come in...

Frank26



  I just gave you 10 reasons WHY Iraq is international...not counting eDinars.

  Here is #11:  

#11 – INTERNATIONAL AIR STRIKE on SYRIA...Iraq did an air raid across their borders...and we allowed it!  Baghdadi is running...where?  There is only one place...Syria.  Iraq wanted to bomb Baghdadi in Syria. 

THIS IS PERSONAL for IRAQ!  To strike Baghdadi outside of their borders is HUGE!   ...11 items of why Iraq is going to be international.  IMO...soon their currency will grow-up to become international. 

The military side is just not ready to tell you that they are done yet.  IMO...they are close because Abadi is telling the international world to come in...


2-28-2017  

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  10 things that prove Iraq is stepping on INTERNATIONAL ground:


#1 – IBAN...every bank has IBAN numbers – allows them to transfer money in/out

#2 – SWIFT CODES...these numbers...part of the international world

#3 – MASTERCARD...(and Visa)...they are all over the place in Iraq

#4 – CHAPTER VII...IMO...is 90% gone.  The other 10% is the RV of their currency.

#5 – NO PROGRAM RATE on CBI SPREADSHEET...for about 2 months now
#6 – AUCTIONS are CONTROLLING MCP’s …

#7 – IRAQI STOCK EXCHANGE...keeps proclaiming they are going international

#8 – WTO ASKED THEM TO JOIN...spells international

#9 – WAKRA...is finally catching up...(website finally updating)

#10 – BONDS...international bonds...two of them





 ...THIS FRIDAY...I believe that could be a good time-frame for the liberation of Mosul.

 Once we have Mosul...does that mean we have the RV?  No...this is a lava-flow process.  What does Mosul give you?

 SECURITY and STABILITY...IMO...Mosul is about to be announced to the world.  Iraq needs international investors...and I believe that is the big campaign now by Abadi.

  Come in and invest in our country!

  This airport...once it was captured...IMO...it opened the door...did you know that we are building 7 bases in Iraq? 

WE AIN’T GOING ANYWHERE...and the INTERNATIONAL WORLD KNOWS IT! 



  Another important thing...Dr. Shabibi came out and condemned Maliki...and you will start to see EVEN MORE!  That will help with the monetary reform...help with the lava-flow.

 Watch for more on Dr. Shabibi and Maliki.  In the end, Dr. Shabibi will make a speech to you.  Security is coming in many ways. 

We (USA) are planting a presence sooo deep! 

We told you...some articles would come out...about the new Iraqi dinar being used in-country...and they are coming.


2-28-2017 


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The IMF doesn’t want them to float...but IMO...I think they are going to float.

 There is a compression of a lot of DEAL going on as the fat lady gets out of the way to show the liberation of Mosul.

  Once you have Mosul...you’ll see the reason for the negotiations...which you wouldn’t see happening with a program rate.

 The DEALS are across the board...creating fairness in trade and currencies.  This is VERY historical.  I like how Abadi told everyone at the meeting in Germany...“we’re open for business...come on in!”  Germany did tell Abadi...“ok”...and they did...quickly. 

 Abadi received today a German delegation...Merkel says they are there to help with the economic reforms. Didn’t take them long to show up.

No country is in this for an 1186 program rate!



2-24-2017 


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 The reason why we don’t see the exchange rate of the IQD released yet...because there are a LOT of DEALS being made...   IMO…(about 2 weeks ago)…we have enough of Mosul to have the RV of the currency of Iraq now...that was MY OPINION…but apparently that is not President Trump’s opinion.  He wants to extinguish ISIS...That’s why many DEALS…IMO…are being born…combination of removing ISIS…“give me Mosul” and you’ll see the MR.  We’ve got like 30 articles now... evidence of what they are going to do.  It’s not that we want fully security by removing all of ISIS...while that is happening, Trump is making a lot of DEALS with Abadi. 

IMO…Iraq is being used as LEVERAGE to do a lot of DEALS around the world.  Has Abadi seen Trump yet? No…not until Abadi is done with this and that…but Trump has Abadi’s back!   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]  Dr. Shabibi…anything to say?  

Dr. Shabibi came out…and said that Maliki stopped everything.  Abadi asked…“Why did Maliki give up Mosul?”   Why did he remove 3 units of protection? Why Maliki? Obviously he was in coo hoots with ISIS.  They are now calling for high-treason… in Iraq and INTERNATIONAL COURTS!  TIME IS UP! TIME TO PAY MALIKI FOR YOUR CRIMES!  ...we told you there would be another speech from Dr. Shabibi…JUST BEFORE they were ready. TA-DA-FREAKIN’-DA!!

 The MR will…IMO…will blossom after Mosul is announced. Once Mosul is liberated…they will liberate the IQD from the program rate.  


2-23-2017 
by Ponee
on Thu Mar 02, 2017 7:45 pm
 
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Dave Schmidt - Private Exchange Status

Picking up where I left off, on December 6, Dave was on the beach in Mexico taking a break after hosting 4 workshops in 5 weeks.  Although Dave's contact, Jason, did not report that his contact was paid, Dave says, "we're very close", Reason #2

Dave added a new reason this week, "HSBC is taking over from Wells Fargo" which becomes #11.
Dave further reported that HSBC will have 60% ownership of Wells Fargo.  I have found no evidence this took place.  Anyone?

Dave says this takeover will delay things about a week to ten days.  This would put receipt of funds around mid December.  Dave was hoping for better news for his radio program on December 7, but he was ill and the program was reduced to a brief statement by his assistant, Blanca.

1) stuff is moving (4 times)
2) we're very close (2 times)
2) funds are moving
4) something about paymasters
5) The cabal is not yet neutered
6) There is good news, but I am not at liberty to disclose it
7) The banks are not yet safe enough
8) The bank was hacked and codes were changed
9) The SWIFT system is still vulnerable
10) OOM lady messed it up
11) HSBC is taking over from Wells Fargo
by Red Panda
on Mon Jan 23, 2017 2:28 pm
 
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Dave Schmidt - Private Exchange Status

:winky winky: 

Interesting addition #11. Smile
by Purpleskyz
on Thu Jan 12, 2017 11:56 am
 
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11/22/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

Guru OkieOilman:  "THE OVEN CONTINUES AT 440 DEGREES & THE TURKEY IS ON SLOW BAKE FOR ARRIVAL VERY SOON. CONTRACTORS HAVE BEEN PAID IN IRAQ AT AN "IN COUNTRY RV RATE" OF 3.75 AS OF NOW. WE ARE IN PROCESS OF THIS WORLD EVENT WHICH SHALL COME TO FRUITION. BULLDOG75 SPEAKS FOR US. NUFF SAID."


Guru ScottiG:
 
BELLS ON AND READY TO DANCE, WE HAVE SO MUCH TO BE THANKFUL FOR TO THE ONE THAT HAS GIVEN IT ALL. i SPOKE TO OKIE TODAY AND THE COMMUNICATION HAS NOT WORKED OUT FOR OKIE, 

FIRST WE ARE IN A GREAT PLACE...THE VERY BEST PLACE AND I KNWO FOR CERTAIN THAT THAT RV PROCESS HAS BEEN STARTED

WE HAE TALEN ALOT OF FLACK WE DON'T GET PAID FOR PUMPING. WE TRY TO BRING THE MOST CREDIBLE AND MOST ACCURATE AND THE RATE WILL BE CLOSE TO KUWAIT. i KNOW THAT 3.75 WAS PAID. CONFIRMED THAT THIS IS HAPPENED

I can't stay here but for a few minutes. I have had the phone stuck to my ear since very early this morning. I am digging in attempts to fine tune the information that came in yesterday. I promise you the last thing I wanted to do was share information that put our time frame further out. I am still confident that we will see the completion of the rate adjustment very soon. When I know more, I promise I will come here first and share. I had a good long visit with Okie this mornig and he felt bad about not being able to get through to be on the call last night. Please know that we are doing our very best for this site and for the Lord. When it comes right down to it....He is the one we all should please. Bear and I both will continue to bring only verifiable and credible information here. I do not do the rumor mill. If we share information that we stand upon, it is because it has been checked out. There are many things I am looking at and will compare notes with my sources later. Until then, please continue to be patient. Consider the encouragement Bear and I have shared with you. I hope you will just rest and relax for we are extremely close! Thanks and be back as soon as I am able


Guru FreewayBill:  No reported delays according to everyone I have talked to this evening.... looks like we may see this very soon... yes, you have heard this before, but that is because we are still in the moment... That's all I have for now...

Every single information gatherer is saying the same thing.


Guru Historian:  11/26/11 is the Islamic new year, a great timing for the "new phase" of Iraq.

Also there were some sanctions implemented on Iran yesterday, possibly to slow the RV money from/to Iran as a security measure, this is very significant


Guru AJ Anderson:  We are in a good window of opportunity for this RV thing to happen, but that does not mean it will happen, due to the negotiation’s that are now taking place with all countries hedging one another to find some balance. Some are not pleased and some are very happy.

Here's a piece of intel I am aware of that I have been holding back since yesterday. I was headed to town to take care of some business and on the radio international news was talking about Maliki being in China. The radio stated "China told Maliki that, we are not going to do business with you until you revalue your money". WOW, I said to myself, I need to check into this! I have known since last summer that BIG lumber mills in the Pacific Northwest has been selling lumber to China by the hundreds of millions of board feet. I know this because my brother in law is a big manager at one of these mills.

So, I call him yesterday and he told me they were still milling for China and the lumber was being loaded into ships at the docks in Portland Oregon at $856 per Thousand Board Feet and headed for Iraq. He told me, at this time, there is no end in sight to stop milling.

Me knowing China has the biggest housing deal in Iraq, they need the lumber. The start up money for those orders is coming from part of the DFI funds and so where's the rest coming from? There's only one answer to that question and I think you know that answer, from what the radio news broadcaster said, China told Maliki. I Know you know the rest of the story, We Are Getting Close! AJ



Guru Bear5642: ALL INFORMATION HAS BEEN VERIFIED AND VERIFIED MULTIPLE TIME AND WE UNDERSTAND YOUR FLUSTRATIONS 

WE COULDNT GO INTO DETAIL AS TO WHY WE WERE TOLD NOT BY THANKSGIVING, HOWEVER, IT WILL BE WITHIN A FEW DAYS AND IM STILL MAKING PLANS TO CASH OUT SOON. IT IS NOT “O”, PLEASE BELIEVE ME HE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS DELAY… we do have information as to what is actually going on…and its not political…it is a matter of simple economics if that helps… IT IS IN IRAQ AND IT IS SMALL ON…i hope and believe it will go now in just a few days and dont see this going past next friday, it can actually happen this friday…I DONT SE IT GOING PAST DECEMBER, ABSOLUTELY NOT, IT IS A PROBLEM THAT CAN BE SOLVED AND THEY ARE WORKING ON IT, CANT SAY MUCH MORE THOUGH…JUST BE PATIENT.


Guru TNT Tony: Got a call from someone who is not on the boards, who is involved in dinar, said on Fox news on Saturday, they said “Iraqi dinar was the highest currency in the world”, they just knew that the RV would be today/tomorrow. Still looking for this any minute, any hour. I’m excited. If you were paying attention, the Super Committie went away, that was the last hold up…if it was from Saturday night the 72 hours started…that’s what your window is…things are still processing…it’s being done, just be patient, you’re going to see it, that part has not changed. It’s going to be a great week, we are absolutely at the end.


Guru DinarWishes: we are digging to find what we can and the DAY IS STILL YOUNG!!! I will say that I truly believe we will have more than just turkey to be thankful for this week!!! Just know we are putting every effort into searching for this and getting the best information we can give out to you guys!!!


Guru Checkmate Dan: LETS NOT FORGET THAT THIS IS A WEEK OF THANKS FOR MANY REASONS, SOME BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAY, OTHERS BECAUSE THEY UNDERSATND THE MEANING OF LIFE, YET THE REST BECAUSE THE RIDE IT ABOUT TO BE OVER…THERE IS GOOD NEWS AND THERE IS A GREAT DAY IN FRONT OF US!!!!!


Guru Jonnywg:  WELL MY FRIENDS YET AGAIN WE COME TO THE FINISH LINE WITH NO RESULTS. I CANNOT EXPRESS HOW DISAPPOINTED I AM FOR WE HOLDERS OF DINAR. OUR SOURCES WERE POSITIVE THAT THIS WAS OUR TIME. GOVERNMENT SOURCES FELT THAT IT WAS THE END. MY FEELINGS AND SYSTEMS CHECKS ALL POINTED TO AN RV OVER THE PAST WEEK AS THERE LITERALLY IS NOTHING LEFT TO HOLD THIS UP.. I WILL PROMISE YOU THAT I WILL DO MY BEST TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT IF ANYTHING WENT WRONG. I THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND RESOLVE TO DO BETTER

[size=18]UST still in lockdown as of 4PM. Bank screens are still 00.000.  [/size][size=18]RV should be any time today or tomorrow.  [/size][size=18]China is influencing the RATE ... AND made it higher. [/size][size=18]All admins say we are FINISHED......BUT not released yet.[/size][size=18]It is hard for me to think that they can come up with more delays....all is done.  [/size][size=18]No commitment but 3.41 to 7 looks good.     [/size][size=18]done by end of day at latest.   [/size][size=18]China and Japan heavily invested in IQD .... leverage for them.  [/size][size=18]Do not listen to any talk of lopping the 3 zeroes .... period
this time there was no misinfo…all verified and still true…no answers…UST still in lockdown, RV in country confirmed, I think we are waiting for UST to end input…then RV…we have confirmed that govt employees and contracters have received an rv’d value for their dinar…LATE BREAKING NEWS: 72 hrs may not have started FRIDAY…we are researching.[/size]


Guru Kaperoni: 10 reasons why the IQD will not LOP:

1. Monetary policy was a success talking inflation from 35% or higher to around 7% currently.

2. Any type of currency devaluation (LOP) is considered a failure of monetary policy. Dr. Shabibi has not failed. 3. Lesser value notes in circulation such as 50, 250, 500. Devaluing the larger

3 zero notes would make them worth less than these lesser notes.

4. Iraq wants the dinar to be an international reserve currency. Cannot devalue the notes in reserve (25,000), circulate them as payment, or traded amongst countries.

5. Iraq holds arguable the second largest oil reserves and is mineral rich. They are too wealthy to not honor the value stated on the notes.

6. Iraq has stated. They want the “strongest currency in the Middle East” Any such type of LOP would be a devaluation and therefore not considered strong.

7. US holds dinar as a result if funding the CBI initial reserves. This dinar will eventually payoff the war debt.

8. One of the authors of the currency exchange plan – Assistant Professor Dr. Fadel states in his documentation, “We must emphasize the extremely important issue is that if you remove three zeroes from the currency should not affect the actual value thereof to be trading in the old currency…

9. In 2003 when the NID was introduced at it’s initial rate, the previous currency was in essence devalued taking all wealth from the country to prevent funding of terrorism. Raising the currencies value will in essence, return that wealth now that the GOI is stable and economic conditions have improved.

10. The CBI has stated “both currencies will co-exist” and the process will not change the “monetary value” of the dinar.


Guru BWM:  OK... it was relatively quiet today... nothing negative... the Super Committee was set up to fail, you have the most conservative Republicans and the most liberal Democrats...no way anything was getting done... just killing time... There is still a chance this could happen tonight... so don't get wound up by those already bailing on their latest guess and back wall that says it can't happen by this date or that... until there is a reason that it is being held up it can still go IMO


Guru Med: I PAY ATTENTION TO ONE PERSON, SHABIBI AND WHATEVER HE STATES IS WHAT IT IS TO BE AND THE LAST EXPLANATION THAT CAME TO US BY HIM IS: INCREASED PURCHASING POWER BY RAISING THE ZERO’S, ISSUING NEW DENOMS IN 3 LANGUAGES AND THEN OVER TIME RETIRING THE LARGE DENOMS OVER ABOUT A 2 YR PERIOD, THAT HE WANTS A RATE COMPARIBLE TO THE USD SO IT WILL BE AN EASY TRANSITION AND WILL MAKE THE IRAQI PEOPLE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IN USING IT IN TRANSACTIONS. IT WAS STATED THAT THIS WILL BE POSITIVE FOR THE POOR AND BE NEGATIVE FOR THE WEALTHY OR ENTITLED.

Guru Mailman17: THURSDAY, NOT ON THE DOCKET FOR SHABS BILL BUT WE SHALL SEE…THIS IS OF COURSE IRAQ WHAT THEY SAY AND WHAT THEY DO ARE MOST OF THE TIME 2 DIFFERENT THINGS. IF NOT THIS THURS…THEN WE WAIT TILL NEXT THURS. JUST BE PATIENT OUR TURN WILL COME


Guru Lawman (GET): It seems that ALL is imminent……..Yes, it looks that way!
If you were a Muslim and you are in the middle of a Religious Holiday ( banks and government buildings are closed until Thursday morning) Would you be happy if the rest of the world benefited from an RV 2 to 3 days BEFORE YOU?.

NO……me neither……….So, could we assume that should it RV this week, it would be better to wait until Thursday or Friday?.

Part of addressing the world imbalances……..Diplomacy is involved in this, too!  Is Friday Iraq’s favourite RV Day?.
What date is Friday?  Could the GBP and USD be revalued too? (A POINT USUALLY FORGOTTEN)

As of today…GBP=$1.60………Some of the calculations on these boards are…. well……diplomatically…..NOT VERY GOOD!

……Should GBP devalue down to £=$1.50…..and 1IQD=£4.44…………What would the $ rate be? (other mathematical variations work with this as well…simple multiplication) ….

Let me help….Should GBP devalue to 1£=$1.50…..and 1IQD=£4.44……the U.S. rate would be $6.66!!!!!….SHOCK AND AWE!!!!….just a thought..


OOM SECURITY MEASURES:
# 1 DO NOT PARK IN BANK PARKING LOTS. WOULD SHOW YOUR CAR TAGS.

#2 GO TO BANK WITH FELLOW DINARIAN, SOMEONE REALLY CLOSE TO YOU. WEAR CAP, SUNGLASSES. TAKE TAXI PARK 1-2 MILES AWAY, YOU CAN BE FOLLOWED OR TAILED

:#3 MAKE AN APPOINTMENTS KNOW THAT THEY ARE DEALING IN DINAR

#4 DO NOT CASH IN ALL AT ONE TIME AND SEEK ADVICE. KNOW YOUR RATES AND KNOW THAT THEY CAN FLUCTUATE AND THEY CAN COME IN LOW, MEDIUM AND HIGH

#5 HAVE A PRE-DETERMINED GAME PLAN: WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, WHY,
KNOW YOUR GAME PLAN

:#6 GET PROFESSIONAL ADVICE THROUGH BANKER OR DEALER. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CPA/ATTORNEY COMBINATION. USE ATTORNEY'S PHYSICAL ADDRESS FOR YOUR CORPORATION.

:# 7: WATCH BODY LANGUAGE AND OTHERS BODY LANGUAGE TELLERS ETC

#8: BE RELAXED AND READY

#9 NO RUSH TO CASH IN; KNOW YOUR RATES AND WHAT TO DO & BARGAIN. WE ARE NOT QUOTING RATES OR DATES

:# 10 MAKE SURE IN NON INTEREST BEARING CHECKING ACCOUNT AND THEN HAVE WIRED TO DIFFERENT ACCOUNT. SEEK PROFESSIONAL ADVICE.

#11 MANY INVESTMENTS INSURE UP TO 1 BILLION DOLLARS AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE AND MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THEIR CO. POLICIES.

# 12 HOME ADDRESS HOTTEST TOPIC: NEVER USE HOME ADDRESS THEN UPS KNOWS WHO LIVES THERE. THERE ARE TRACK RECORDS AND YOU MAY NEED TO MOVE. YOUR NAME WHEN WE CASH OUT NAME AND ADDRESS WILL BE SEEN BY MANY MANY TELLERS AND THEN TO IRS 5-10 PEOPLE WILL SEE YOU NAME AND BANK ACCOUNT HOME ADDRRSS, PHONE NUMBER SOC. SEC. IT IS LEGAL TO GET BOXES THAT YOU CAN USE AS HOME ADDRESS. MOST STATES ALLOW THAT. THEY ARE ABUNDANT.

#13: IF ANYBODY HAS RECEIVED PACKAGES OR BANK STATEMENTS THERE WILL BE TRACK RECORDS IN DATA BASE. WHEN YOU MAKE DEPOSIT MAKE SURE YOU TRANSFER SAME DAY OR WITHIN ONE WEEK. YOU DO NOT WANT A WIRE BACK IF YOU MOVE IMMEDIATELY

#14. MAKE MAIL TO P O, BOXES. USE PASSPORT FOR IDs; NOT DRIVERS LICENSE.

#15. USE PASSPORT ONLY. DRIVERS LICENSE MAY BE TIED TO SOCIAL SECURITY WITH THAT DATA CAN FIND OUT WHERE YOU LIVE. IF BANK ALREADY KNOWS ADDRESS HAVE THEM CHANGE IMMEDIATELY ONLY YOU CAN MAKE DECISION. DO NOT WANT ANYONE KNOWING HOME ADDRESS

#16: 2 COMPUTERS 1 FOR NON INTERNET BANK AND PRIVATE STUFF AND ONE FOR BANK, ID# , ACCTS, STORAGE FOR PERSONAL. 1 FOR EMAIL AND WEB STUFF AND ONE HIGHLY SECURED

#17. BULLDOG be careful with all your internet browsing AND SITES. TYVM.

be sure medical records are kept completely private home address and SS# are on those records...

#18: MEDICAL RECORDS KEEP COMPLETELY PRIVATE AND CHANGE ADDRESSES ETC ON OOM SITE THERE ARE MEANS AND WAYS TO PROTECT. WE WANT TO HELP YOU BE PROTECTED FROM THE WOLVES IN SHEEPS CLOTHING.



DV Member GoFast350Z:  11/18/11  Any of you who have read my previous few posts know how I came upon this investment. Kept my mouth shut so far but just received a phone call from my uncle stating that Wooten, head of the treasury under Bush called and said RV has been announced in Iraq and we should here about this by the weekend days rolling around. Let the soft words fly cause I guess I'm a guru now but I've got my armor on so no feelings hurt. Anyone else have anything to back up my rant?

You guys all rock like tube socks in a 70's porno!...I didn't hear anything about rates but I'm a little overwhelmed by the phone call myself. Staying grounded, gettin my bike ready to fly high at the track tomorrow and goin on about my business...but in case it is actually true, I get to thump my chest just a bit...haha. God bless every single one of you wonderful people! Hope all comes to fruition for us, we deserve it by now.

Uncle is a friend of the bush family. Has dinner with them regularly here in highland park north dallas. He's in IT for valvoline. He's just a simple farm hand, rodeod for a while, rode semi pro MX and just has been an honest hard worker like the rest of us...good guy just in the right place at the right time with the right people.

I don't know the back story about Tony but sounds like he beat you to that limb...actually sounds like he found the end of it and didn't quite touch the ground if you get what I mean...I hear a lot of bashing about that guy...none of which sounds good so I hope I don't fall into the same bucket come monday.

Not asked...was told about this. Matter of fact, if I'm not completely talkin out my butt here, I believe he said Wooten was at that dinner when it came up in conversation. I want to say there were only about 12 or so people there and...ummm...yeah, I think that's it. I want to stick to what I know to be factual and not shoot my mouth off.


I don't know whether to be offended or happy!...haha. Still haven't heard back from my uncle. I'm sure he'll call me this evening to chat so I'll be back as usual later this evening. Trust me, if I hear anything I'll be too damn giddy to stay away from here very long.
Blessings to all and GO RV!!!

I'm going to be calling my uncle again in the next hour so hold tight everybody and let's see what else is crackin in the wacky world of dinar BS today.


11/21/11  Well...not to be rude but that's the difference between you and I. I did call but got no answer, he's a busy guy and I refuse to blow someones phone up, especially on a weekend, common courtesy dictates you don't do those kind of things. He's family, not some jack wagon I found out had intel.
by Ssmith
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Iraqi Dinar Scam

Iraqi Dinar Scam

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Squirrel Pot Pie
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#1 Jun 13, 2013
It has just come to my attention that the "Iraqi Dinar Scam" is now alive and well in Carlsbad. All of my direct family lives there, and my very elderly (but fortunately, very well physically and mentally) mother may be a prime target for this scam, even if by otherwise well-meaning people who have been suckered themselves.

I believe this is simply another Ponzi scheme, a pyramid, where (maybe, but not guarantees) a very few "may" see a little of their money returned in the beginning, but virtually all will be dealt a sleight of hand that may very well ruin many of them for the rest of their lives.

This kind of fraud abounds everywhere, at all times and in many different disguises, but they're always the same. But what really gets me this time around is that (even if conducted by one of those well-intentioned suckers I mentioned above) is that it is involving people who are attending church and marketing this bogus BS to vulnerable people to people from THEIR VERY OWN CHURCH. I don't care if they are assuring people that their money is 100% refundable (which would be a surprise of the greatest magnitude even if THAT was true). I care about the fact that whether a scam artist is knowingly bilking the vulnerable or it's just a case of the person marketing the scam being one of those well-intentioned suckers who has himself or herself acting for the betterment of those who might just be as (I hate to say this) stupid as themself.

Have any of you heard of this (it's apparently been around a long, long time), or otherwise been solicited to participate in this charade?

I would like to know, and mainly want to alert ALL of you to the probability you're looking to get bilked. There is a lot of truth to that old adage "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is".
I've attached only one link of many that tells you more about this.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jayadkisson/2012/...

Meanwhile for those of you who are interested, I am selling shares in a grasshopper ranch that, for a mere $100.00 per share, is guaranteed to bring you a return of 1200% in just the first three months, with even greater returns assured afterward (and my guarantee to you is that your investment is 110% refundable if not satisfied). For those of you interested, kindly PM me so we can discuss this in a private, confidential environment. There is a per person limit of 1000 shares.





Really
Carlsbad, NM
#2 Jun 24, 2013
It is not a scam or Ponzi scheme to invest in another country's money, as long as you understand that the returns vary & may not be as big as one would like, as well as the risks of loosing all together. That one is taking the same chances as one would on Wall Street. Any investment is never, I repeat NEVER, a sure thing, it really is the same as gambling. The scam however comes in when the investors are promised a sure fire large return within x amount of time, guaranteeing they will become over night millionaires! If at anytime someone tries to get you to invest without thoroughly explaining the risks, & only promising return, STAY AWAY FROM IT! In short is getting folks to invest in Iraqi Dinar illegal? NO! Is it being done in an ethical & legal manor? If done as u are describing NO! If you are misunderstanding how its being done then you will feel guilty for slandering the one doing the selling, if you are right then thanks for the warning! And lastly befor doing any investing check with a qualified investment expert, NEVER take friends,family,(remember they are the worst as you never see it coming from them or want to believe they would do you wrong) or do gooders word for it if you do your only begging to be robbed!






Squirrel Pot Pie
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#3 Jul 1, 2013
Really wrote:
It is not a scam or Ponzi scheme to invest in another country's money, as long as you understand that the returns vary & may not be as big as one would like, as well as the risks of loosing all together. That one is taking the same chances as one would on Wall Street. Any investment is never, I repeat NEVER, a sure thing, it really is the same as gambling. The scam however comes in when the investors are promised a sure fire large return within x amount of time, guaranteeing they will become over night millionaires! If at anytime someone tries to get you to invest without thoroughly explaining the risks, & only promising return, STAY AWAY FROM IT! In short is getting folks to invest in Iraqi Dinar illegal? NO! Is it being done in an ethical & legal manor? If done as u are describing NO! If you are misunderstanding how its being done then you will feel guilty for slandering the one doing the selling, if you are right then thanks for the warning! And lastly befor doing any investing check with a qualified investment expert, NEVER take friends,family,(remember they are the worst as you never see it coming from them or want to believe they would do you wrong) or do gooders word for it if you do your only begging to be robbed!

I was very polite in suggesting that the person in question may very well have been duped into believing so completely in what he was selling (although I didn't say I doubt it is true, which I do).
No slander at all.

This week is when the "payoff" is due. Let's sit back and watch the money flow back into the hands of the "investors" at the sums reputed to be.

I do agree with this from your post above:

NEVER take friends,family,(remember they are the worst as you never see it coming from them or want to believe they would do you wrong) or do gooders word for it if you do your only begging to be robbed!
Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/city/carlsbad-nm/T...

Somebody is about to be fleeced.





Question
Casa Grande, AZ
#4 Jul 1, 2013
Can you name the church please? CCF? maybe?
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Really
Carlsbad, NM
#5 Jul 2, 2013
You mean rv? There can be no promise of any certainty of when a country's monetary system will rv. The advisors can look at what is going on and predict a possible date, but to make a promise of certainty, not possible. Especially with a country that is still in internal turmoil . I read the article you linked to. & it mentioned the investors relating the Iraqi dinar to Kuwaits dinar. The difference between the 2 was Kuwait was an invaded country that was more than willing to get back to peaceful times and rebuild its stability, so far Iragi shows no signs of even being willing to do so. This comparison is like milk & water. Milk has vitamins & calcium, water not so much. Ie if one is using this as a reason to believe in a substantial return, they may have to be prepared to wait a while.as with all investing patience is the key, you never sell of your shares while low you wait until they rebound! Common law of investing. Of course being wise enough to study your options and not jump at just anything is the main key. Never leap before looking you' ll end up regretting the out cone! Ie when investing use common sense not someone's word or that so called all knowing gut feeling!





bet my life
Tucumcari, NM
#6 Jul 2, 2013
My edlery parents are saying they bet there life that they are going to be millionairs..two weeks ago..they dont have alot of money but are waiting on pins and needles to cash in on their dinars!!They invested two years ago and still believe in it..They are sitting by there computer daily to watch for when they need to go cash in...they have their clothes packed and in the car and stopped doing much at all because they are waiting..anyday to be Rich!Now if they arent being scammed they sure are investing alot of their precious last years of their life waiting on this..It makes me angry that people pray on the elderly like this..yes im sure currency trading is legit..but these gurus are making them promises that has litterly put there lives on hold..It is sad and I cant seem to change there mind no matter what I tell them or show them warnings about this SCAM!!





NicolasKL
Lovelock, NV
#7 Jul 2, 2013
It's not a pyramid or ponzi scheme, but it's definitely a scam.

Buying the currency of a foreign country isn't a scam, but paying 20-50% plus premiums for it because someone (either a well meaning ignoramous, or an unscrupulous con man) told you a bunch of nonsense about it increasing in value by tens of thousands of percent most definitely IS a scam.

There's absolutely zero legitimate reasons the Iraqi currency would undergo a large increase in value. It's incredibly unlikely it'll even go up 50% over the next decade, let alone the 100,000% in the next week that most of these fools believe.

Iraq's currency is worth right about what it should be. There are two VERY simple ways to prove this:

1. Divide their foreign reserves (80 billion USD in value at most) by their money supply (M2, around 75 trillion dinar) and you get about 0.001. Right around what their currency is worth. That isn't a coincidence.

2. Take the TOTAL value of Iraqs currency (their 75 trillion M2 multiplied by the value of each dinar, 0.0086) and you come up with about 65 billion dollars. Now look at their GDP. It's around 120 billion dollars. That's about a .5 ratio of M2 to GDP. Now look at that same ratio for neighboring countries. They'll all be about the same, somewhere between .4 and .7 or so.

Iraqs country is worth right about what it should be. Sure, it could go up 10 or 15 or 20%. That will leave most people, that paid spreads of 20 or 30 or 50%+, high and dry. The chance of the dinar increasing in real value by even 100% in the short term is zero.





Money Maker
Carlsbad, NM
#8 Jul 3, 2013
I would give a week's pay to a hottie who tried to scam me.....in the nude!!!! Money well spent!






Squirrel Pot Pie
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#9 Jul 4, 2013
Question wrote:
Can you name the church please? CCF? maybe?

Out of respect for my family members and their opinions of the individual with whom they dealt, I am not at liberty to disclose the names of any parties.

I honestly don't know if this "investment opportunity" goes all the way to the top of the church in question, or how many church members have been approached or have "closed on a transaction". My family seems to have very long term ties to a particular party who has been transacting these exchanges, and appear to have an unshakable faith in him.

But I'm happy that, although slow, this thread has resulted in a few well-reasoned views - and helped expose something that everyone should think long and hard about before committing themselves should they find themselves approached with this "overnight millionaire" hustle.

It may prove very helpful to google "iraqi dinar guru" and such who are at least in part behind this/these scheme/s, and to google "iraqi dinar scams" and "Vietnamese dong scams".

There's some heartless people out there, folks!





curious
Fuquay Varina, NC
#10 Aug 21, 2013
a lot of people are going to be crushed by the hammer of liars and scammers...Don't invest more than you can afford to loose..I myself bought a few hundred dollars worth but everyday I wonder was I scammed by the dinargurus..If it happens all well and good if not so what I didn't rob the bank to get the money..lol





Youu
Lovington, NM
#11 Aug 22, 2013
curious wrote:
a lot of people are going to be crushed by the hammer of liars and scammers...Don't invest more than you can afford to loose..I myself bought a few hundred dollars worth but everyday I wonder was I scammed by the dinargurus..If it happens all well and good if not so what I didn't rob the bank to get the money..lol

Screw the dinar you need to invest in the Yuan.





Hussein Ali
Burton, TX
#13 Sep 4, 2013
I will not say it is or it is not, In 2008 was 1 USD exchange for 1260 ID / 2012 1 USD exchange for 116 ID in just four years,so it is not scame, and when they revaluate the ID they will not give just one month and any one can just take his IDs and go to the north of Iraq and exchange them ,The gold companies for sure they will not like invest in Iraqi dinar, no one gave good reason to not invest in Iraqi dinar, Iraq has the second oil reserve in the world sooner or later the Iraqi dinar gose back to 1ID exchange for 3.25 USD and don't tell me that it was because Saddam wanted that, because he was buying things like weapon for this exchange from the big economy contries like Russa and USA, it is slow but it gonna happen, ther is a lote reason they dont wanna people know about that like the gold people, rich people stay rich and other stay just money machine makers, if we compare why and why not we found the reasons for invest in Iraqi dinar really strong against why not who keep saying the Iraqi dinars dealers notregistered, Mean yes they are dealer and they go around stuff to make more money like cars dealers or big bank they do this in hidden ways, if somone ask why the big banks don't invest in ID it easy to find the answer.





Danny
San Jose, CA
#14 Sep 12, 2013
Exchange rate is 1166 dinar to 1 US dollar today 9/12/2013 it is a scam.
Hussein Ali wrote:
I will not say it is or it is not, In 2008 was 1 USD exchange for 1260 ID / 2012 1 USD exchange for 116 ID in just four years,so it is not scame, and when they revaluate the ID they will not give just one month and any one can just take his IDs and go to the north of Iraq and exchange them ,The gold companies for sure they will not like invest in Iraqi dinar, no one gave good reason to not invest in Iraqi dinar, Iraq has the second oil reserve in the world sooner or later the Iraqi dinar gose back to 1ID exchange for 3.25 USD and don't tell me that it was because Saddam wanted that, because he was buying things like weapon for this exchange from the big economy contries like Russa and USA, it is slow but it gonna happen, ther is a lote reason they dont wanna people know about that like the gold people, rich people stay rich and other stay just money machine makers, if we compare why and why not we found the reasons for invest in Iraqi dinar really strong against why not who keep saying the Iraqi dinars dealers notregistered, Mean yes they are dealer and they go around stuff to make more money like cars dealers or big bank they do this in hidden ways, if somone ask why the big banks don't invest in ID it easy to find the answer.







Danny
San Jose, CA
#15 Sep 12, 2013
It is a scam , exchange rate is 1166 Dinar to 1 US dollar according to the Central Bank of Iraq official website 9/12/2013






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Intel highlights from The Big Call Thursday Night 5-19-16

Intel highlights from The Big Call Thursday Night 5-19-16

Transcribers Artneto, LocoFelipe:

Bruce call starting.

Bruce, Ken , Yosef and Sue.

Bruce; it is now thrusday may 19th... glad everyone is here. and want to thank everyone for their coming in and listening to us.

Bruce; everyone is staying very occupied, but continue to move forward.... opening with prayer

Bruce - teaching ending. Now moving to the Praise Report, then Prayer Request, then intel at the end

Bruce; intel now

Bruce - the Blessing is at our door. No rates or dates, but rates are higher than we thought
....


Bruce; we don't rates and dates but I can tell you this blessing is far greater than anyone thought

Bruce - Let's first start to speak about general information that was learned today

Bruce; talk in general terms about what we learned today and the Sue will have some points that we will talk on tonight

Bruce - Bank redemption centers are ready and well staffed, ready for this to happen anytime now

Bruce; we know announcements were made in Iraq yesterday..... we know that the lower denoms are out

Bruce - announcement was made in Iraq yesterday - lower denoms are out and being used - Key cards are being used internationally, even in the USA - Iraq has been freed and they are ready to go with new dinar and new rates

Bruce; what this tells us is that Iraq is off and running and that is great, but we know it is more than iraq. so now we are seeing the world being levelled out and all currencies being asset backed

Bruce - we will be gold backed

Bruce; that makes the value of everything going up as well as our confidence in these countries

Bruce - our currency will be called USN - not USD - (notes are gold backed, dollars are fiat)

Bruce; joseph- thank you, it is an honor.... at this last and final stage... we certainly hope so

Bruce, you did an awesome job laying it out there

Bruce/Yosef - This is our last and final phase of the RV

Bruce/Yosef - so much has happened since last call on tuesday.

Bruce/Yosef - we are in a GO situation from banking , diplomatic, military, security, political positions. If we are not there, we are awfully close

Bruce; hard intel, I think it is best to understand that we are a 'go' in a banking persective, the diplomatic perspective, the govermantal perspective, and they have all been checked off

Bruce; it is lovely to have Sue and her beautiful voice to be on this call

Bruce; Sue- disclaimer.... no rates, no pay outs, not lawyers, bankers, or actors who play them on tv

bruce/Yosef - we want to tell you everything, but it would take too long. We have a list … we will not do the bank's job of discussing rates and structured payouts

Bruce; WF is the lead bank.... but there are other banks that are a great part of this as well

Bruce/Yosef - There are other banks besides WF, Chase - RBC, Scotia, TD Banks

Bruce not only here but banks in Canada as well.... and our brothers and sisters in
Mexico

Bruce/Yosef - Bruce says, in spanish, that he loves Mexico

Bruce; thanking the bank to make this a relationship thing.... not a us verses them scenario

Bruce/Yosef - we are partnering with the banks, we are being blessed and we will be good stewards

bruce; all the people and governments, banks, all the organizations who are participating in this event

Bruce/Yosef - we are more than dinar, dong and zim. We are a community of dinarians.

Bruce; we are all working together even the currency community. it is good taht we have community, where we can reach out and say 'well done'

Bruce/Yosef - Sue to bring list ..
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Bruce - 14 points - #1 - Per IT engineers working on Bric financial system. They are now comfortable with their control over CIPS mechanism

Bruce:  1- per IT engeneers they are now comfortable with the system, and ahve given the final release to go forward

Bruce/Yosef - this means all codes for every country in the world!!

josef-- all the people who have done all the work for this to happen... decades of work of strategy updates and programming

josef, these are the ones who are now happy with t he release..
..
Bruce #2 - over 20,000 service staff at 5,500 exchange centers - were still on duty as of Tuesday

2- over 20K office site have been deployed to sites to help out..... are still on site to help us transmission

Bruce - #3 - at 1:06am EST reset satellites, one for each hemisphere so that new system could be calibrated

3- 1:06 eastern on THursday two satilites were activated to coordinate the transactions

Bruce - The engineering portions are being worked out globally! This is historical and amazing

Bruce - that was 1:06 am on Thursday/today

4- some transactions will take 23 seconds to complete, and some will take 53 seconds..... the swift system would take up to 10 days to complete... and this system has now been unplugged

Bruce - #4 - Under the new CIPS system, some transactions may that 25 seconds to complete. But the SWIFT system, which took 10 days to complete a transaction, has been rendered non-functional

5- Thrusday mid morning.... the entire system was reset and all redemtion centers and banks have been reset

Bruce #5 - Thursday mid-morning (today) the entire banking system was re-set

Bruce #6 - Thursday afternoon WF sent memos to all redemption centers to be ready

7- partial glabla liquidity has already been realeased. in order to do final tests to the new financial system

Bruce #7 - Partial global liquidity has already been released including prosperity packages

Bruce/Yosef - this is like a soft opening of a business to ensure that everything works

Bruce #8- Cabal leadership are now being arrested, or sought out anywhere in the world for their crimes against humanity

Bruce/Yosef thanking special forces who are carrying out the arrests around the world

9- the globel rv has never been closer than it has been right now... as memos went out to tell all staff to be prepared.

Bruce #9 - global RV has never been closer than we are now. Memos have gone out to bank branches and redemption centers. We are just waiting for 800##

Bruce:  10- we know all necesary that alll military, and staff are ready and prepared to welcome over 30 million investor

Bruce #10 - military and security is staffed, trained and prepared to receive the currency redeemers. 30M redeemers around the world, not just USA

Bruce - we no longer have to worry about having a regular job. Our new job is learning to be a philanthropist

Bruce #11 - Prudent to look for RV after markets close Thursday evening and initiating by Monday

11- therefore it is prudent to look for the rv to roll out after markets are closed on Thursday evening and Monday morning

12- official hisorical bonds redemtion is scheduled to begin THursday 8p/m eastern

Bruce #12 - official historical bond redemptions scheduled for Friday morning China time, which is thursday evening in USA

13- be at peace because the rv is still happening and in real time. permanently and abundantly...

Bruce #13 - Be at Peace. This is permanent. Do not think that rug will be pulled out from under you after the RV

Bruce - Release bad habits, forgive people. this is an opportunity to be redeemed in Christ. This is a spiritual blessing. You have been released, so release other people and release bad habits. Go into bank asking God for guidance. God have been there when you had nothing. He will be there during and after RV

Bruce - be open to a whole-new-you to create the kind of life for yourself and for others, that you have always dreamed of

Bruce/Sue - God is the light in everything that you create

Bruce - We are jumping into a new life this weekend. Adopt new habits

14- all is well, and thank you to all intel providers. a whole list of people that I want to shout out to...
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Bruce #14 - All is Well. Thank you intel providers. There are so many! Christopher Watkins (the actor?? - his voice sounds familiar)

josef--- if you don't think we have lost it after so many calls, I am going to go to the corner to sell bananas.... we have gone bonkers

Yosef - if they don't RV this weekend, I will sell bananas on the street. I'm also selling my currency!! LOL!!

Bruce tried to impersonate Marlon Brando and now Inspector Clouseau

josef- someone needs to pray us out, we are getting ridiculous

Bruce/Yosef - help as many people as you can. Do your part

Bruce - hope to celebrate on Tuesday

Bruce - looking forward to a great weekend

Bruce - Pastor Steven closing prayer
by RamblerNash
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Bruce Call Notes via WingIt

( LADYB COPIED AND PASTED THE NOTES. THANK YOU LADYB.
PINKROSES TRANSCRIBED THEM ON TNT SITE)
Bruce The Big Call 4-19-16  Transcriber: pinkroses
Thank you to Irene for capturing the first few lines.
 

Bruce call: We need each other, love doing this call with others, we need you out there listening and being there for us, thank you each Tuesday and Thursday night.

 
Bruce call: Bruce opening call with prayer
 
Bruce: Bruce: Tonight special call with Guest speaker Sue, and guest speaker Bob, and Kent
 
Bruce call: Kent Lesson, then prayer request
 
Bruce call: Kent Lesson now 
 
 
 
Bruce call: Bruce opening call with prayer
 
Bruce: Bruce: Tonight special call with Guest speaker Sue, and guest speaker Bob, and Kent
 
Bruce call: Kent Lesson, then prayer requests
 
Bruce call: Bruce and Kent discussing teaching lesson
 
Bruce call: Praise reports and Prayer requests now
 
Bruce call: Bruce: Intel now
 
Southcomfort transcribed this comment:  Europe becoming liquid in morning their time, midnight eastern our time
 
Bruce call: Bruce: Tonight different how we do this, collection of intel from various sources. Put it in 20 points.
 
Bruce call: Sue: to be ethical, this is the best collection of intel we have worked hard to gather, Intel providers gave us is very connected, reputable, fortunate to have it. It is intel in the moment, it is fresh. best we can come up with at this moment.
 
Bruce call: Bruce: Realize this this collaboration is something that info is we have and we are putting out. Understand that we definitely try to use discretion, try to put out info without putting out things ultra-sensitive, or going over the line in certain areas.
 
Bruce: No rates or dates, try to be ethical. receive this info in that light.
 
Bruce call: Sue: We are giving dimension to it. Bruce: We are sort of in the moment. down to a close proximity. Take the info, apply as you see fit.
 
Bruce call: Intel 20 Points
 
Bruce: #1: China announce new gold price, #2 The Chinese Yuan went gold back same moment #3 Global oil price and ? were settled 3 hours later Monday night.
 
Bruce call; Expected tomorrow morning
 
Bruce call: High rates available first 5 days, off site redemption locations
 
Bruce: rates high limited time, nothing new. the people want us to get in, get exchanges done. WF lead bank, working very carefully with HSBC, and other International banks.
 
Bruce call: 800 numbers can come out anytime but expected wee hours of the evening to ease the flow of appt setting.
 
Bruce call: 800 numbers put out in form of emails, and judicially intel providers and sites
 
Bruce call: Sue: Are you one of those intel providers? Bruce: some people think, but I not been informed. If so send to our site, we put them on our website under our bank tab.
 
Bruce call: Sue: Are you one of those intel providers? Bruce: some people think, but I not been informed. If so send to our site, we put them on our website under our bank tab.
 
Bruce call: Bruce: If they want me to.
 
Bruce: #9, Zim very valuable, be given initially 36 hours preference. Bruce: If you have Zim let people know that this is one of your currencies. They put you head of the class. Put you in appt sooner than later. They want to get the zim more quickly
 
#10, Zim will have a longer structure payout period, and skeleton trust if you dont have a trust at time of exchange
 
Bruce: I am not an attorney, cpa. What we understand, banks are prepared to put together, a skeleton trust, basic trust, to keep funds secure until you come with your own, or add to, or a trust above this trust.
 
Bruce: You will get with your WM on, to put together, they will have the resources to put together. get done before walking out of redemption center.
 
#11: IQD-dinar VND-dong, IRR-rial,. IDR-Indonesian rupiah, AFA =afghan ZIM-zimbabwe
 
Bruce: possible minimum 2 year structure payout with other currency other than the zim
 
Bruce: Sue: no rates or dates, the value has gone up, this process going to be easy, feel safe, the banks going to provide you those more valuable rates.
 
Bruce: The rates very good, nobody needs to negotiate anything. going to be quite spectacular
 
Bruce call: if not want structure rate, can redeem later, there be a time frame for groups and others to set appt, period of time initially, after which time, the John Q public they be able to exchange after that with bank screen rates, or international rates
 
Bruce: appt time about 36 minutes. New us gold back system been established
 
#15, all public and private project leaders ready and completed for global release
 
#16, US dollar and federal bank notes no longer recognize last week. Bruce: that is referring to the fiat. They already made the transaction to the new dollar that is backed by gold and other assets
 
#17, all security forces in place currently in exchange centers, inside and outside and beyond
 
Redemption staff on lock down all week, all ready.
 
#19, performance time kept secret
 
#20, 16 million currency holders, no cap. All set, plenty of equity, funds in place, all set, all compete from equity stand point.
 
Bruce call: next thing on agenda? Sue: post RV reality
 
Pinkroses.  sorry if I missed some numbers
 
bruce call: Sue: talking about her book
 
Bruce call: Kent discussing his plans post Rv and giving suggestions how to have new mind set post RV
 
Bruce call: Sue discussing to have the mind set
 
 
Bruce: the exchange itself, the banks will make it as fun as a transition as for us. Best interest to work with us as partners. That is how I going to look at it. Enjoy, have fun, new world you going to walk into.
 
Bruce: Embrace the transformation you’re going to walk into. No fear, walk into with faith, confidence. I am sure all come out as fine on other side.
 
Bruce: Ask for guidance to ask right questions and hold you during whole experience. Look forward to Thursday night to go more into this.
 
Bruce call: Kent praying call out.
by Ssmith
on Tue Apr 19, 2016 10:50 pm
 
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Chat From Generals64. Dinar Guru's still carry on the tradition?

The Generals64 Group claims that they don't do "Rates & Dates", but here is a thread that says otherwise. Do you see all the hype that the other Guru's are still using today?

Posted 22 March 2012 - 09:02 PM


[size=16][generals64] ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:...Hang on to your seats as you're going to get it all right here and now...CAn you REally Handle it??????



[generals64] #1. Wells Fargo America as agreed to work with the Iraqi Dinar when it happens...confirmations from all over the United States....

[generals64] #2....$6.38 has been on the screens at Chase bank for 2 Weeks...I wouldn't and I couldn't tell you guys as i want to make sure of what it is...it's is called a "Marker" number....Was there this morning at *;00 my time (CST)...then went 1`- 1 per the Programmer we talk with. every dang day.

[generals64] #3. Lady LeeLee is the same one that put a voice commanded typo on one of our sources and didn't tell him and we hadn't verified it and she said oh, I'm sorry I just told my friends...I... amd...NOT her friend and I got a copy of it...I was livid and asked to be quiet

[generals64] #4....This morning...TODAY...we talked to dinar UK and the CBi (before they closed....if you want the ladies name let me know....you can't handle it folks...They said it ain't a happeneing for some time...Iraq has NOT released it yet.

[generals64] #5.....The rates of 23.10 to 3.68 are everywhere and No a single Swinging soul knows it...No one as it has to be calculated through the asset division for their currency value....Go figure

[generals64] #6. I told someone everything I had heard two days ago (In Confidence) his story was my family is leaving me blah blah blah...Yesterday Hammerman Printed everything word for word....

[generals64] #7...Today...same person...same scenario....Folks...I don't tell all I hear cause it would make your life crumble. Our sources are real and not a bunch of old men scratching themselves in places they shouldn't....I have busted my Ass to make this be right but I', beginning to feel like SteveI when he got tired of being bashed on his own site.

[generals64] #8....Leave Studley alone...he is trying with all his heart...he too makes mistakes ...I know no one else does...But, if you keep listening to their "Junk"...you're going to be Broke...One of the providers has 17,000 emails attached to his IP address...wonder why????

[generals64] #9...this is so dang stupid...following puppy dogs...these people come on,. they tell you a good story and bam they are the messiah and then another comes and then Bam...I do not have to have this to make a living as I have already made mine....I want it to happen just like you do but come on....

[generals64] #10...No Whales cashing out anywhere...NOTICE NONE anywhere....I have been invited to go and have yet to even see the people...Names don't need to be told as they and you know who they are....

[generals64] #11. If you want story book rhymes...go to the library and throw the dinar in the trash....If you want to know the truth then study it...Don't count on ANYONE to handle your investments period...Never in Life....

[generals64] #12. This site and its owner has been the most level during this whole thing....I had a bad thing happen to me when the shout room was here...I then got my cell phone hacked (along with kcmana) but caught that fool...he is one of the gurus yopu all follow...Remember this,....i have so many friends from years past in the three letter agencies that you couldn't begin to imagine...Those giving me a hard time need to be careful with what they post as from now on all bets are off...and it will all be told straight up in this room unless Cool Clown Fish kicks me off and bans me...

[generals64] #13....Hammerman's Father asked me to cut him some slack as he was afraid it was afeecting him personally...Hammerman told me one night he had told some lies but he felt it was his responsibility to keep the rooms level and calm...

[generals64] #14....Now...when is theis going to happen...I was told this morning at 10:00 am...it didn't...I was told at 2:00 pm....it didn't...I was told whales all over the country had been called by Wells Fargo...they weren't...what else do you want to knwop cause tonight I'll tell you all I know and it is not pretty folks....

[generals64] The banking deal we have been working on is with Wells Fargo...We talk EVERY DAY...they are ready and are willing to make us a deal that will scald your grandkids....they want the business...My girls waNT NOTHING AND IF I were treated the way they have been I would have told everyone to kiss my backside......If you treat your friends (you know who I'm talking to) this way then I don't need you and you (you know who you are) will be the last person in the world to cash your dinar out...Promise...I have held my integrity to the highest until tonight...but tonight folks...ask your questions

[generals64] I am Generals64 and I approve this message.

[generals64] If you guys will stop the board and don't pm me...I am calming down but, I'll answer them all...and, i am a big boy...but I am really upset...Guys/Gals...we need to financially help CCF with this site....one way or the other..

[generals64] Fireproof:...Look...I have held the closet I can to keep from telling the BS...Even Bookings will tell you guys that....The truth is not known by anyone...I mean NO one...

[generals64] MAVERICK :...yes it would...some can do more...some can't do any....If we could actually stop the board one question at a time I'll really explain it all

Q & A Session:
[Cheesehead] generals64 SO from what you posted... It ain't happening for a while... because you said that you heard Iraq has not released... So when do you think sir?
[generals64] Cheesehead Cheesehead Cheesehead :...the CBI told us yesterday they were upset with the us as they (USA) were making their country look bad...and that they had nothing to do with it...WE Called the CBI FOLKS for you....then this morning we called a lady with dinar UK (Lori) and she said it was completely in the hands of the UST...She then told us that as long as there were auctions they would not be RV'ing....However...Lori (same lady ) said yesteday that they were expecting this to happen any time now.................Truth I'll give you their phone numbers...The guy at the CBI was put on a three way call

[mammat] ok....It was posted that Studley had already negotiated with WF at cbi +2. What happened
[generals64] mammat;...Studley is a good guy...I have already growled at him as he is talking too much ...there are people who expect everything said to be true....Actually, we (studley) 10%...he then said a dollar but He told me he was working for the entire Bank Spread....for Everyone....Everyone is EVERYONE in and on every site...There was a rumor about him a couple of days ago and I got on him pretty hard and he came back pretty hard...The guy who had him invetigated called and apologized...people make mistakes...The rate we heard today/tonite...23.10 govt. gets $5.00 and the bank gets $2.00 and we get the rest...I also heard $14.38 was showing on Chase bank Screen...No One knows so don't listen to it....I trust Studley until he proves me wrong...Anyone with a Great Dane named "FIfi" is OK in my books.

[joyjoyjoyjoy] Hi and THANK you! Can you tell me how cash-in groups work? Does everyone physically come to the bank at the same time? If so, what security measures would/should be taken? Sure appreciate your caring spirit!
[CoolClownFish] You will not be going to the bank with anyone else. you simply tell them who you are your with this group and your name and you can cash in at the predetermiled rate with that package.
8:33 PM [CoolClownFish] answered that one for ya

[MAVERICK] this is for General , my question is if your that connected then why cant you give us a proximate rate and day , or what is really going on
8:35 PM [generals64] Real Hold up????...I was told it was our Treasury department...First...no Gag orders anywhere...the Ust people laugh everytime I say that....as a matter of fact that's their standing joke.....The guy at Chase told us that everyday at 1:59 the 6.38 rate on the IQD goes back to Zero....Today he told us he was unable to even get to the screens until 3:00 pm...EST...Kinda Strange....The people in CHINA we are talking with said this should have been done 4 weeks ago....I can't figure it out and they can't figure it out...There were some Virus's found up to about 2 weeks ago but they are fixed

[gr8teth] What is the % possibility of the rv going to our elections in Nov?
8:35 PM [generals64] Rumor and Rumor only...We could see this tomorrow...Maybe with me blowing up something will be done.
8:36 PM [generals64] gr8th:...no way

[ZMAN2011] any truth to the statement that the U S is being punidhed for the hold up by being forced to pour in moneo from threasury to reach rate levels? ty
[generals64] ZMAN2011 :...I heard that but just before I found out I had been betrayed and I haven't check it out

[eleanor] generals64 I think the timing is more important to us all than the rate could you elaborate on your statement of it not happening for a while?
[generals64] Precious (elanor)....the entire thing should have happened this country seems to need the money...However, I was really told the whole thing was outta IRAQs hand...and in the hands of the IMF...The IMF has signed off and released it is what i was told...and folks this person is too wel connected...and he might see this so I can't say.

(bookings) generals can you confirm what I hjeard that the rv is happening tonight and the rate is $22.00

8:40 PM [generals64] bookings...i have heard the $22.00 and the 23.10 and the $6.38 and the 14.38 and teh $1236 rate for days...I told you that....But I don't know about it happeneing tomorrow..I sure hope so...YOU bookings know I talk with a Wealth mangement person with Wells Fargo almost everyday....and she is not seeing anything...Folks,...she is sharp as a tack

[beachdreaming] i would like to know if Geitner or Obama is truly holding it back.. who can force them to get it done?
[generals64] beachdreaming...I really think it is Roscoe cause he only got 7 milkbones to 1...No, I don't think it is O or Giethner....this is more than that.

[generals64] I'm not sure about the intent that has come forward and said We (I) are fluffing our feathers etc....just for the klnowledge in this room a...and i am going to be flogged by kcmand and 4th time...But, We have over 3 Tillion dinar to work with...do you think we carry a big enough stick...that is with a T folks...not aB orM


[eleanor] How can we help you, phone calls, moniterr sites, emails, whatever?
[generals64] dlenor...the people we deal with used to trust the other GURUS and other site leaders...they hav ebeen burned so bad they won't talk with anyone...this room has had a bad name of Bashers jumping on people andalso everything said comes in here and people think its true...Think about it...do you really believe some other GURU has a 747 on the Tarmac Idling?

[Javabean] If the rate is 22 and the gov gets 5 and banks get 2, then will we still have to pay taxes or will the gov's % be enough for them??

[generals64] javabean...i have heard so many reports on taxes...it cost $2,500.00 to gt a written ruling from the IRS on this...My personal Tax attorney is $850.00 an hour (he's good) and I don't want to spend the money yet

[LINDI] Is it possible that the Bush family is holding this back?
[generals64] no on the Bushes holding it back...

[Lojack6T] Isnt it possible its just being held up for maximum impact to benefit Iraq during the arab summit and the rest is just a conspiracy theory?
[generals64] Lojack6T;...I think we could see it quickly...I will never give a date or rate...but today so much Smoke was pumped out and everyone fell for it...EVEN I did...

[texanone67] question...does this mean no toaster?
[generals64] I am going to have more toasters tahn Wal-Mart

[Shabibi] How much of all this might just be a bunch of BS and smoke? Not really sure what started this rant and speaking of the truth but I like it!
[generals64] Shabiibi;..ther is NO BS in what I tell you or anyone else...You ahve come at me hard more than once and that is why I don't answer your foolish and mundane questions...By the way Thursday is my favorite day...Why because I met my wife on a Thursdy.Now Dude,...What have you got?...if nothing then sit back and joiin the team or leave the site...
[generals64] Shabibi :..i'm sorry..I am so upset over what has happened and what is being said to the people of this ivestment and please accept myy apology...i was out of line

[righteouswrath] Generals 64... Tex said that you were going to wear a speedo and Roscoe was wearing sunglasses to the barbeque... is that true?
[generals64] Precious :...if that will bring the RV fastr I'll do it..it ain't going to be pretty

[joyjoyjoyjoy] General Thank you for your caring spirit!! Wish you'd tell who betrayed you so we can get 'em for ya! Honestly I would like to know so I don't take stock in what they're saying if posted. Thx for all you share!! You're one of the good guys in my book.
[generals64] My phones are blowing up....I have taken my Blood pressure medicvine and Roscoe is sleeping right now....You guys ask who betrayed you....They know who they are as they are in the room right now....Aren't you dude/

[generals64] I was to have gone to Dallas and cash out cause I too am an Oklahoma SOONERFAN...but he today won't return my calls....Did you know Blaino and Hammerman were banned from other sites?...did you know Blaino Bragged about hacking Okies name...Did you know he laughed about hacking Foghorn's name...hmmm...I have a short call give me a second...hopefully it will answer some stuff...hold on

[generals64] and hey guys/Gals lojack6T is NOT lojak...He is a friend of the family.

[Shabibi] So of all the other "gurus" who share info who would you trust most and who the least to give us a bearing on how to look at their info
[generals64] shabibi:...I owe you this one....Gurus?hmmmm Hmmmm BWM/Tex/Cap1....Studley..Wileymorgan...(really)....Freeway Bill...and SteveI
[generals64] Shabibi:...Dan and Tony seem to be trying real hard now...i don't believe in conspiiracy theorys from anyone and hard to reacll is a good...good friend of mine...

[whitfi10] Was there a call earlier? Generals64 do you host calls? Just wondering if calls really accomish anything?
[generals64] whitfi10 :...calls don't do anything but add fodder to the fire...No one has been 100% right yet....

[generals64] Folks....the Thing that bothers me a lot is the is no one or any law that requires my two gitrls to do anything for anyone...


[generals64] real good call...
[generals64] Precious ;...could be even beter
[generals64] arabic is bad for me
[generals64] still on

[generals64] OK...Wiley morgan has some dude from Iraq who is so dang excited aboaut something neither one of us can understand him...He is trying to get a translator and will let me know if he does....Wiley did two or three tours over there remember that....

[generals64] Guys/Gals;;;;;Please fogive my antics...Drama is not much of my life and I apologize only to this room as this seems to be family...Some one just told me something I had told him and it hit me right between the eyes...."We can save em all and we can help only those that will let us..."...I hope you are one of them as my heart goes to all of you even the Jerk that used me....But, i want to apologize for my actions as they were uncalled for but, from now on you guys get it all up front...

[generals64] I thought I had more class and integrity than I showed tonight....

[FIREPROOF] generals64 we thank you... but be prepared for the rats to take it to recaps.... it will eventually end up there.
[generals64] FIREPROOF :..it will cause so much dissention...they can find me...I know where they are.

[generals64] the bank deal we have is a good one...Good enough johnny asked if he could be on it....HmmmmmmmOur bankers talk to us anytime we need tpo..

[Austin-Powers-For-PM] generals64 So if I understand you correctly, your CBI contact is saying to forget about an RV anytime soon. Correct?
[generals64] Austin-Powers-For-PM :...I don't have a contact at the CBI...We called them on the phone and one day it was ready the next day..no no...so who knows????

[generals64] if you guys get a chance...and he'll talk....live4the brand knows a lot also

[generals64] you guys...Betrayal and just from not verifying it cost me my sanity for a few minutes...maybe hours...i need a beer.

[Shabibi] generals64 Sanity is over rated..beer is rated MUCH higher!
[generals64] Shabibi :...yep...

[Mauiboy] generals64: Only one??? LOL!!!
[generals64] Mauiboy :I don't drink

[eleanor] generals64 btw what brand of beer do you drink?
[generals64] eleanor :...that is Kidney stone medicine but it is Bud Light

[generals64] If you can stop the site I'll explain what we have been doing on the banking situation...it's really very simple

[generals64] the banks want all your money...All...they really just want you and i to get a reasonable amount and they get the rest...Studley adn 4th time are working with Wells Fargo...Wells Fargo wants the numbers we have so, they seemed to desire to give us all they legally can...so what the names and such was for was to give the bank so they could logistically put things together and service us the best way possible...for instance No WF in Oklahoma....I was offered a free airplane ticket to a de larue machine...No, I'll go to Texas>...Studley and his business partner are and have been working on this for some time...they are financial people...me, I'm a dime Store Manager.....

[generals64] What should happen is (hypothetical only )...say it happened tonight...if you went to the bank right now you would get the tellers rate and a thank you very much....But, We have this so close to being finished...girls are real good and so is 4th time and OKCBulldog and .live 4the brand....that we can push our button and send them names etc.,,,they can in turn issue a code that you as a MIG Dinar Holder can go to the Private Wealth person and tell them what you waNT And who you are...they will recognize the code number and your name...If you give the code to your cousin Billy Bob and he is not on the list he will be sent over to the teller and get the teller rate....Now, the beter rate is within their Private banker division...there is a certain dollar (USD) value that you must deposit...probably everyone in here is qualified...Even Roscoe is....then they do the paperwork which you probably haven't done and send you to the teller with your code and an appointment to discuss your wealth management...

[generals64] Make the appointment folks and go to it....if you think you are smarter than these people in finances your probably wrong....they are licesenced adn avialbe...there are programs taht you can get involved with like the rich boys are and let your money work for you...so that you don't have to work for money...does that make sense???and, it's that simple...but, without your name and the code number you'll not get the extra...nothing big and EVERYONE should be treated the same..don't you think????and, me and my group of kids are not making anything on it period...but i sure would like a new toaster....ask the other sites to tell you what they have in store...Oh yeah the other banks will follow suit...they want your money ...study Fractional Banking and you'll see.

[generals64] Fractional banking...????? Google it...get a case of beer and start reading..you'll still not understand it but you'll have fun trying...

[wisegrysqrl1] generals64 when you say our name do you mean our screen name or our real name?
[generals64] wisegrysqrl1 ;...they won't take your screen name on a deposit slip...Promise you that...

[joyjoyjoyjoy] generals64 Are you saying we'll get the same rates Studley is working on? Are bank packages the same thing as group cash-ins? Still unclear on that. thx!
[generals64] joyjoyjoyjoy :...Studley is doing the stuff for us....I talk with him e

[king] Generals64 do u believe a14. Rate could exist IYO ?????????????????????
[generals64] king yes

[Florida] Shabibi Yup. But I thought fractional banking was going away with the new Basel III... anybody know?
[generals64] Florida Fracational Banking is a way of life....the banks are able to sell their deposits nightly with it...your money never stops being used...24 hours a day and 365 days a year

[generals64] I promise not to blow up like that agin folks...not my style....even embrssed to myself right now...When you get over 150 calls aday and about 35 of them daily are smart aleck pranks...your tension is developed

[wisegrysqrl1] generals64 were you saying no Rv anytime soon earlier?
[generals64] wisegrysqrl1 :...ask me that tomorrow night
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[size=16][generals64] If you guys will do what I made texanone67 do you'll be a little less stressed.....take the dustiest book in your house (The Bible to some of you) and read and live John 19:20....you'll thank me many times as she has....Promise from the bottom and depth of my heart....I had a guy tell me to listen and find the darkest part of your heart and liten to what God says at that point.....I did, and I have....this same guy was a convicted Morderer and doing life....and from nowhere paroled...He died of cance a while bak...miss him a lot...[/size]
by RamblerNash
on Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:38 pm
 
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Topic: Chat From Generals64. Dinar Guru's still carry on the tradition?
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Iraqi Dinar Lawsuits Reviewed

Iraqi Dinar Lawsuits Reviewed


Cases and Lawsuits Related to the Dinar

There have been a number of lawsuits involving iraqi dinar, we cover those and related complaints below. We will research each as time permits.

* IF you have not read our page on the 5 Stages of Hype used to sell you on the Dinar, you should check it out!

Topics tagged under 11 on Dinar Daily Lawsuit-notice-pin-smallNOTICE: The FBI asks that you call 877-236-8947 if you feel you’ve been mislead into buying Iraqi Dinar. They want to hear your story! Letters have been sent to the court asking the court to give back money that was acquired in the raid – the feds can tell you more about this!

Case #1USA vs Sterling Currency Group, Ty Rhame, James Shaw, Carole Laurette Shaw, Frank Bell. The complaint, concerning Money Laundering, also mentions Sterling Funder (owned by Sterling’s attorney David Lilenfeld with Tyson Rhame and James Shaw), GID Partners, Isolveit.Com (registered to Sterling Funder’s VP of Product Management), and many more. This lawsuit was filed after Husam Tayeh brought up Money Laundering in their amended complaint against Sterling Currency Group.

Case #2USA vs Dinar Corp Inc, Husam Tayeh and MyMonex – This complaint was filed after Sterling discussed registration in their response to Husam’s lawsuit.

Case #3: Dinar Corp Inc Lawsuit Complaint Review – Husam Tayeh is a Dinar Dealer who owns Dinar Corp, Inc. (DCI) and filed a lawsuit against Sterling Currency Group.

Case #4: Sterling Currency Group Lawsuit Complaint Review – Sterling sued me for $5 million and I counter-sued them for $20 million. Check out my adbusive litigation letter to Sterling’s attorney David Michael Lilenfeld and look at the exhibts I provided the court. Also, check out my email to Tyson Rhame and his hostile response!

Case #5: Virginia A. Burdette – complaint to avoid and recover fraudulent transfer.

Case #6: This is a Defamation Complaint / Lawsuit filed against Tamer Deniz and was dismissed shortly after.

Case #7: Stefano Grossi Consulting – Stefano Grossi was hired to create the website to sell iraqi dinar to investors. In court, he told the Judge “I didn’t lie, I told the truth but at times I didn’t tell the truth”. He committed misconduct in court and lost the case!

Case #8: Pigott Law vs BH Group and BH Group Indictment

Case #9: This U.S. Army Major was charged with Smuggling Iraqi Dinar out of Iraq.

Case #10: USA vs Anthony Renfrow Plea Agreement – and learn why he ran with the Plea agreement.

Case #11: FBI Seized these assets from Tyson Rhame’s home and Sterling Currency Group – additional case

Do you know of a case / lawsuit that is related to dinar dealers or dinar itself? If so, please leave a comment and let us know!

Cease and Desist Orders and more…

State of Alaska Order 15-1449-C Final Cease and Desist Order Imposing a Civil Penalty against Sterling Currency Group, LLC.

7. In the course of the same examination, the Department determined that Respondent acquired GID Associates, Inc. (“GID”) (gidassociates.com) on September 20, 2013, but failed to disclose this acquisition to the Department and register GID.

Emergency Order 2015-014 to Cease and Desist Activity and to Suspend License of Sterling Currency Group, LLC

2. On June 3, 2015, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) executed a search warrant against Sterling and Ty Rhame (Rhame), Sterling’s founder. While executing the search warrants, FBI agents raided both Sterling’s offices and Rhame’s home.




https://www.iraqidinar.org/iraqi-dinar-lawsuits-reviewed/
by RamblerNash
on Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:42 am
 
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Topic: Iraqi Dinar Lawsuits Reviewed
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James Shaw vacations to the Bahamas on Dinarians money.

@RamblerNash wrote:Iraqi Dinar Lawsuits Reviewed




Cases and Lawsuits Related to the Dinar

There have been a number of lawsuits involving iraqi dinar, we cover those and related complaints below. We will research each as time permits.

* IF you have not read our page on the 5 Stages of Hype used to sell you on the Dinar, you should check it out!

Topics tagged under 11 on Dinar Daily Lawsuit-notice-pin-smallNOTICE: The FBI asks that you call 877-236-8947 if you feel you’ve been mislead into buying Iraqi Dinar. They want to hear your story! Letters have been sent to the court asking the court to give back money that was acquired in the raid – the feds can tell you more about this!

Case #1USA vs Sterling Currency Group, Ty Rhame, James Shaw, Carole Laurette Shaw, Frank Bell. The complaint, concerning Money Laundering, also mentions Sterling Funder (owned by Sterling’s attorney David Lilenfeld with Tyson Rhame and James Shaw), GID Partners, Isolveit.Com (registered to Sterling Funder’s VP of Product Management), and many more. This lawsuit was filed after Husam Tayeh brought up Money Laundering in their amended complaint against Sterling Currency Group.

Case #2USA vs Dinar Corp Inc, Husam Tayeh and MyMonex – This complaint was filed after Sterling discussed registration in their response to Husam’s lawsuit.

Case #3: Dinar Corp Inc Lawsuit Complaint Review – Husam Tayeh is a Dinar Dealer who owns Dinar Corp, Inc. (DCI) and filed a lawsuit against Sterling Currency Group.

Case #4: Sterling Currency Group Lawsuit Complaint Review – Sterling sued me for $5 million and I counter-sued them for $20 million. Check out my adbusive litigation letter to Sterling’s attorney David Michael Lilenfeld and look at the exhibts I provided the court. Also, check out my email to Tyson Rhame and his hostile response!

Case #5: Virginia A. Burdette – complaint to avoid and recover fraudulent transfer.

Case #6: This is a Defamation Complaint / Lawsuit filed against Tamer Deniz and was dismissed shortly after.

Case #7: Stefano Grossi Consulting – Stefano Grossi was hired to create the website to sell iraqi dinar to investors. In court, he told the Judge “I didn’t lie, I told the truth but at times I didn’t tell the truth”. He committed misconduct in court and lost the case!

Case #8: Pigott Law vs BH Group and BH Group Indictment

Case #9: This U.S. Army Major was charged with Smuggling Iraqi Dinar out of Iraq.

Case #10: USA vs Anthony Renfrow Plea Agreement – and learn why he ran with the Plea agreement.

Case #11: FBI Seized these assets from Tyson Rhame’s home and Sterling Currency Group – additional case

Do you know of a case / lawsuit that is related to dinar dealers or dinar itself? If so, please leave a comment and let us know!

Cease and Desist Orders and more…

State of Alaska Order 15-1449-C Final Cease and Desist Order Imposing a Civil Penalty against Sterling Currency Group, LLC.

7. In the course of the same examination, the Department determined that Respondent acquired GID Associates, Inc. (“GID”) (gidassociates.com) on September 20, 2013, but failed to disclose this acquisition to the Department and register GID.

Emergency Order 2015-014 to Cease and Desist Activity and to Suspend License of Sterling Currency Group, LLC

2. On June 3, 2015, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) executed a search warrant against Sterling and Ty Rhame (Rhame), Sterling’s founder. While executing the search warrants, FBI agents raided both Sterling’s offices and Rhame’s home.



https://www.iraqidinar.org/iraqi-dinar-lawsuits-reviewed/



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by chilimama
on Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:36 am
 
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Topic: James Shaw vacations to the Bahamas on Dinarians money.
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James Shaw vacations to the Bahamas on Dinarians money.

Iraqi Dinar Lawsuits Reviewed




Cases and Lawsuits Related to the Dinar

There have been a number of lawsuits involving iraqi dinar, we cover those and related complaints below. We will research each as time permits.

* IF you have not read our page on the 5 Stages of Hype used to sell you on the Dinar, you should check it out!

Topics tagged under 11 on Dinar Daily Lawsuit-notice-pin-smallNOTICE: The FBI asks that you call 877-236-8947 if you feel you’ve been mislead into buying Iraqi Dinar. They want to hear your story! Letters have been sent to the court asking the court to give back money that was acquired in the raid – the feds can tell you more about this!

Case #1USA vs Sterling Currency Group, Ty Rhame, James Shaw, Carole Laurette Shaw, Frank Bell. The complaint, concerning Money Laundering, also mentions Sterling Funder (owned by Sterling’s attorney David Lilenfeld with Tyson Rhame and James Shaw), GID Partners, Isolveit.Com (registered to Sterling Funder’s VP of Product Management), and many more. This lawsuit was filed after Husam Tayeh brought up Money Laundering in their amended complaint against Sterling Currency Group.

Case #2USA vs Dinar Corp Inc, Husam Tayeh and MyMonex – This complaint was filed after Sterling discussed registration in their response to Husam’s lawsuit.

Case #3: Dinar Corp Inc Lawsuit Complaint Review – Husam Tayeh is a Dinar Dealer who owns Dinar Corp, Inc. (DCI) and filed a lawsuit against Sterling Currency Group.

Case #4: Sterling Currency Group Lawsuit Complaint Review – Sterling sued me for $5 million and I counter-sued them for $20 million. Check out my adbusive litigation letter to Sterling’s attorney David Michael Lilenfeld and look at the exhibts I provided the court. Also, check out my email to Tyson Rhame and his hostile response!

Case #5: Virginia A. Burdette – complaint to avoid and recover fraudulent transfer.

Case #6: This is a Defamation Complaint / Lawsuit filed against Tamer Deniz and was dismissed shortly after.

Case #7: Stefano Grossi Consulting – Stefano Grossi was hired to create the website to sell iraqi dinar to investors. In court, he told the Judge “I didn’t lie, I told the truth but at times I didn’t tell the truth”. He committed misconduct in court and lost the case!

Case #8: Pigott Law vs BH Group and BH Group Indictment

Case #9: This U.S. Army Major was charged with Smuggling Iraqi Dinar out of Iraq.

Case #10: USA vs Anthony Renfrow Plea Agreement – and learn why he ran with the Plea agreement.

Case #11: FBI Seized these assets from Tyson Rhame’s home and Sterling Currency Group – additional case

Do you know of a case / lawsuit that is related to dinar dealers or dinar itself? If so, please leave a comment and let us know!

Cease and Desist Orders and more…

State of Alaska Order 15-1449-C Final Cease and Desist Order Imposing a Civil Penalty against Sterling Currency Group, LLC.

7. In the course of the same examination, the Department determined that Respondent acquired GID Associates, Inc. (“GID”) (gidassociates.com) on September 20, 2013, but failed to disclose this acquisition to the Department and register GID.

Emergency Order 2015-014 to Cease and Desist Activity and to Suspend License of Sterling Currency Group, LLC

2. On June 3, 2015, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) executed a search warrant against Sterling and Ty Rhame (Rhame), Sterling’s founder. While executing the search warrants, FBI agents raided both Sterling’s offices and Rhame’s home.



https://www.iraqidinar.org/iraqi-dinar-lawsuits-reviewed/
by RamblerNash
on Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:27 am
 
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James Shaw vacations to the Bahamas on Dinarians money.

Review Sterling Currency Group Complaints & Counter Lawsuit



I wrote Tyson Allen Rhame (owner of Sterling Currency Group) predicting Government intervention back in 2013:

If you figure out how many people have to be suckered into buying Iraqi dinar to make your $20+ million dollars monthly and multiply that by years upon years of deception, it equates to TENS OF THOUSANDS of upset investors. Your arrogance will meet all those people reading this case along with Google, search engine forums, lawsuit review forums, and news agencies all around the world. Most importantly, you’ll see the Government reviewing this information and starting their own investigation. – You can read the ENTIRE EMAIL where I explain it all to Rhame. Case 1:13-cv-00878-RHB Doc #32-2


In 2015, the FBI and US Marshall’s office raided Sterling Currency Group and Tyson Rhame’s home. The United States Attorney filed a lawsuit against Sterling Currency and issued warrants to seize assets of Tyson Allen Rhame, James S Shaw, Carole Laurette Shaw, Frank Miller Bell, Sterling Currency group and many, many others! Sterling’s Attorney David Lilenfeld is partners with Rhame and Shaw in Sterling Funder LLC, also mentioned in the Federal complaint.

As of 2016, the Federal CIVIL case against Sterling Currency Group has been put on hold pending the outcome of a related CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.


Sterling Currency Group LLC (DinarBanker.com / SterlingCurrencyGroup.com) filed a lawsuit against us and we fought back with a counter-lawsuit containing information about their online operation that I’m sure you’ll find interesting!

Sterling Currency is a company that sells Iraqi Dinar (Iraq’s currency) and Vietnamese Dong (Vietnam’s currency) to people online. It’s owned by Ty Rhame and James Shaw (United States Attorney claims Carole Laurette Shaw is also an owner) and David Lilenfeld (Lilenfeld PC) is their full time salaried attorney. He is also Rhame and Shaw’s business partner in Sterling Funder LLC, a Crowd Funding website – Lilenfeld refers to his “partners” as his “client”.
The online sales of Iraqi Dinar has been extremely profitable for Sterling; how profitable? Attorney Navneet S. Chugh gives us an idea by stating in a closing argument that Sterling Currency Group’s sales for the first 3.5 months in 2011 were 65 million dollars.
Mr. Chugh also made mention of Sterling’s operation in his opening statement of Civil Action File No. 2011Cv197363 as:

Mr. Rhame and Mr. Shaw had just started an iraqi dinar – selling business in the United States. And I know it’s kind of unique, that why somebody in the United States buying iraqi dinars, but, believe it or not, these people would actually fly to Iraq, pick up actual dinars, which is their dollar, pack it up in suitcases, and bring it to the United States and tell folks in the United States that this piece of paper is going to appreciate.


The United States Attorney states that “Sterling’s revenues have been considerable, for since 2004, Sterling has earned over $600 million in gross sales or receipts”.
Before I summarize my Lawsuit involving Sterling, let me first share statements we discovered promoting the Iraqi Dinar on Ty Rhame and SterlingCG websites, which we submitted to the court.

Why would someone in the United States Buy Iraqi Dinars?


Topics tagged under 11 on Dinar Daily Large-returns-on-dinar-investments-by-sterlingcg

Below are statements telling folks that the Iraqi Dinar is going to appreciate, one going as far as calling those that don’t invest, fools. These statements, promoting Sterling Currency Group, claim that Iraq’s currency is an investment of a lifetime, a jackpot for investors and that your investment can only go up in value and guaranteed to never fall.

[Note: when you follow the links below, you’ll be taken to Internet Archive’s digitally preserved copy of the webpage where the statement is found; this Archive takes historical snapshots of websites at a point in time and used in many court cases; because of its popularity it may be slow loading but worth the wait]:





  • Topics tagged under 11 on Dinar Daily Ty-rhame-on-purevolume



These are some of the statements promoting Sterling Currency Group / Dinarbanker that we discovered and included in our court exhibits when we counter-sued Sterling. Statements like these spread throughout the internet are what gave me a false sense of urgency to buy dinar. That was a long time ago, and yet, even with all the warnings now sweeping the internet, people still rely upon statements like those above without verifying such claims.
The State of Oklahoma warns people considering buying Iraqi Dinar, be it from a dealer or individual:

Oklahoma residents are seeing an increase in solicitation for investment opportunities in Iraqi Dinars, the currency of Iraq. The Oklahoma Securities Commission (Commission) and Oklahoma Bankers Association caution Oklahoma investors against making uniformed decisions regarding Iraqi Dinar currency exchange investments.
Oklahoma residents have been offered unsubstantiated claims for extraordinary returns on Iraqi Dinar investments. High pressure sales techniques are used when offering the investment including stating this is a time sensitive investment that requires immediate action. The majority of these investments result in the Oklahoma investor’s complete loss of principal.
These investment offerings require careful research. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is not true, nor will it be profitable to anyone but the promoter. Investors should do business only with registered brokers* and investment advisers. Investors should report any suspicion of investment fraud to the Commission.
*a registered Broker is NOT the same as a dealer who has registered with the U.S. Treasury as a Money Service Business (MSB). Registering as an MSB is something that dinar dealers are required to do by law and often use to give the appearance of being a registered Broker.
– read the entire warning from the State of Oklahoma.
*Note: The quotations by Sterling and the statements made by the Oklahoma Securities Commission and Oklahoma Bankers Association are not to imply that Sterling is being referenced by the Oklahoma warnings or that the Oklahoma Securities Commission is aware of any statements Sterling may have made.
Update – the United States Attorney has since filed a lawsuit against Sterling Currency Group, see link to read more.

Forbes: “Throwing good money at a very bad idea”, as stated by Forbes writer Robert Laura:
In my opinion, they don’t fit anywhere! Let me reiterate that; the Iraqi dinar and the Vietnamese dong do not fit into a retirement portfolio in any way, shape, or form. Both monetary units are often referred to as “scam” currencies for good reason. Countless warnings and blood soaked war stories are prevalent online, but to my surprise investors continue to fall for it, throwing good money at a very bad idea.
As it turns out, the scams success is based on a powerful combination of greed, apparent inside information, and the ability to see, feel, and touch the currency. In fact, the most compelling part of situation is that both the Iraqi and Vietnamese currencies are legitimate and tangible. Investors can not only hold them, but also show their spouse, friends and even fold them up and put them in their wallets. Furthermore, they are part of a regulated industry and available for purchase at a few major US Banks. All factors that seem to make investing in either of them a very credible and enticing opportunity to outsmart Wall Street, best fellow investors, and get rich quick by uncovering secrets the government doesn’t want us to know.
Yet, as you already know, if it sounds too good to be true…investors should run like heck. I reached out to several currency exerts to help me explain the ins and outs of this ridiculous business in an effort to help retirees and other investors avoid falling victim to this and similar currency scams going forward.
– read the full article on Forbes!

Want to find out what we presented to the court? Then read on!

Review of Sterling Currency Group Lawsuit

Topics tagged under 11 on Dinar Daily Sterling-curency-group-llc-complaint-summary
Sterling Currency Group tried to sue us in Georgia for alleged hyperlinks they considered bad; they claimed the links were a form of Google Bowling which harmed Sterling’s rankings and that because their domain is trademarked, the hyperlink is a form of trademark infringement. Sterling sued us using Trademark Law and allegedly provided a copy of the lawsuit to Google to restore their ranking.

We denied the allegations and filed an abusive litigation notice against their attorney David Lilenfeld PC. Sterling lost the case on jurisdiction and filed again in Michigan. Having performed our own electronic discovery (not ordered by the court), we counter-sued Sterling for $20 million claiming in part:

28) For years, Sterling Currency Group d.b.a. dinarbanker.com / sterlingcurrencygroup.com tried to beat Iraqidinar.org’s ranking.

31) Unable to beat Iraqidinar.org’s ranking and not wanting its message to prevail, Sterling offered to purchase Iraqidinar.org, however, the offer was rejected.
See Case 1:13-cv-00878-RHB Doc #11 Filed 09/18/13 Page 31 of 72 Page ID#78

34) The overwhelming evidence uncovered to date reveals that Sterling’s true purpose in filing its Complaint is: a. To answer to Google with a cover up that involves intentionally and wrongfully blaming Counter-Plaintiffs for Sterling’s own violations of Google, Microsoft’s Bing, and other search engine policies for legitimately ranking in search engine results; (a) As Sterling’s agent explains, he has been penalized many times in the past and needs a way to cover their tracks (Exhibit B, pp. 36-39, 42). and at the same time, b. To silence Iraqidinar.org’s warnings about buying Iraqi dinar. (a) Using Counter-Plaintiffs as Sterling’s fall guy also serves to silence protected free speech including warnings about the Iraqi dinar scheme and damage Iraqidinar.org’s search engine rankings so that people searching for information about the Iraqi dinar scheme will never find it.
See Case 1:13-cv-00878-RHB Doc #11 Filed 09/18/13 Page 32 of 72 Page ID#79

80) There are at least 70 separate unlawful uses (each constituting numerous violations of law) of Counter-Plaintiffs’ copyrights and trademark since July 2011 as outlined in the Infringement Reports of Exhibit F. a. Sterling unlawfully used these copyrights and trademarks in blatant disregard of conspicuous notices of copyright / trademark; (a) Despite the conspicuous notice, the stolen property is then used in a deceptive network of webspam and illegal marketing.
See Case 1:13-cv-00878-RHB Doc #11 Filed 09/18/13 Page 49 of 72 Page ID#96

We presented 70 copyright infringement reports many of which were used on websites registered by Sterling’s marketing agent “Youssef El Hodaigui” to promote Sterling more than a year before the initial lawsuit.

*see document 11 page 34, 35
Only one exhibit of an alleged bad link was presented in support of Sterling’s case, it was a single page pdf of the term “dinar”; that term was located in the footer of a website about animals and claimed to be hyperlinked to Sterling’s website, which they called a “bad link”, in part because it was on an off topic website (animals rather than dinar); the website was not owned or controlled by us and the alleged hyperlink was said to point to a website address that didn’t exist stating that “the url is HTTP not HTTPS even our site has been SSL since day one!”.
[You’ll notice however the user Ty Rhame on purevolume links to that very same website address (http rather than https) below his statement “if you are looking for the best profit out of your currency investment, you must invest in Iraqi dinar”].
During our own discovery, the same “bad link” was found on numerous websites containing our copyrighted images taken without our permission and surrounded by webspam with links pointing to Sterling’s website, such as Charlotte SEO, an animal website and the footer link on Moroccan Cuisine, all websites actually registered by Sterling’s marketing agent Youssef El Hodaigui (who was listed as Marketing Director for David Lilenfeld (Sterling’s attorney and business partner in Sterling Funder)); there are many such sites, not including free hosting sites, such as Youssef’s Myspace blogs.

Forbes mentioned Sterling Currency Group’s Ty Rhame and Youssef El Hodaigui in their article titled “Iraqi Dinar Soars Again?”.

There were 14 counts listed in our complaint against Sterling Currency Group, shown below:

  • Count One: Copyright Infringement
  • Count Two: Circumvention of Copyright Management Information in Violation of 17 U.S.C. § 1201 et seq.
  • Count Three: Federal Trademark Infringement in Violation of 15 U.S.C. § 1114
  • Count Four: False Designation of Origin/False Advertising/Unfair Competition in Violation of 15 U.S.C. §1125(a)
  • Count Five: Federal Trademark Dilution in Violation of 15 U.S.C. § 1125(c)
  • Count Six: Common Law Trademark Infringement
  • Count Seven: Common Law Unfair Competition
  • Count Eight: Violation of Michigan Consumer Protection Act (MCL§§ 445.901 – 445.902; § 445.903)
  • Count Nine: Violation of Michigan Trademark Act (MCL §§ 429.31 – 429.36; § 429.42)
  • Count Ten: Common Law Tortious Interference
  • Count Eleven: Common Law Civil Conspiracy
  • Count Twelve: Respondeat Superior
  • Count Thirteen: Abuse of Process
  • Count Fourteen: Frivolous Lawsuit

In all, we presented hundreds of pages in our exhibits that included a variety of topics such as Black Hat SEO techniques and content spinning allegedly used by Sterling’s agent Youssef (aka “Khidma”) to promote Sterling’s lucrative dinar sales business. For example, websites mentioned in Exhibit A page 13; another example of content spinning can be found in an article published by a user named Ty Rhame on scribd.
Sterling Currency Group answered the counterclaim denying all liability.
Toward the end, I emailed Tyson Rhame trying to explain what was in the exhibits but Rhame responded with threats of financial ruin for the rest of my life and stated he never read a word of the lawsuit and never will. I sent him another email expressing my concern about the threats and received an offer to settle; the case was settled shortly after.
This is a relationship diagram to help you understand the companies mentioned in the lawsuit.
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And this is Page 2 of Exhibit A showing the people involved in each company mentioned in the lawsuit. Listed are Tyson Allen Rhame, James Shaw, David M Lilenfeld, Youssef El Hodaigui and Frank Bell.
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Timeline of Events and Lawsuit
“Khidma” is an online alias used by Sterling’s marketing agent Youssef El Hodaigui.
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Sterling’s attempt to buy IraqiDinar.org:
Sterling Currency Group tried to buy this website in 2009 but Sterling’s marketing agent (Stefano Grossi) was turned away. Then, in 2011, Grossi again offered to buy my website, this time for a million dollars and claimed more could be made per month selling Dinar. For reasons I’ll explain later, the offer was refused.

In 2011, my copyrighted images were taken without permission and used on websites registered by Sterling’s marketing agent Youssef El Hodaigui’s (aka “Khidma”). These images were surrounded by webspam and used to promote Sterling Currency Group, Youssef’s employer.

A year later attorney David Lilenfeld (Lilenfeldpc – Georgia Bar No: 452399) called my wife explaining that he needed to talk with me and that it was nothing to worry about. As we stated in our Abusive Litigation Letter to David Lilenfeld:

Mr. Maurer called you back and answered your questions about whether he had ever bought currency from Sterling (no), whether he worked for Mr. Grossi (no), and whether he had posted bad links (no). When speaking with Mr. Maurer, you also told him that he “needed to come clean” or else a lawsuit will be filed. We know, of course, that your threat was fulfilled in that the Lawsuit was subsequently filed. And you told Ms. Walsh, when you spoke by phone with her on October 24, 2012, that “unless your client cooperates,“ there will be trouble with his employer. These threats were not well received by Mr. Maurer or Ms. Walsh, and to me, they are highly unprofessional. If my clients have to proceed with claims for abusive litigation, these threats will be relevant as to Sterling’s vexatious intentions with the Lawsuit.


My attorney advised that a settlement (fair or not) may be better than a costly and emotional court battle (although Jim’s a tough trial attorney, he also believes in presenting you with all the options). Looking back, I’m glad I didn’t cave in to the pressure! Had a settlement agreement been reached in Georgia, I would not have discovered those images infringed upon by Sterling’s agent Youssef, the elaborate network of webspam, Black Hat forum discussions and other material that formed the basis of my counterclaims.


In my letter to Tyson Rhame shown in Exhibit A Page 2, I refer to a request made by Lilenfeld. That request prompted us to analyze Sterling Currency Group’s online operation which eventually led to us filing exhibits containing hundreds of pages in the 14 count counter complaint against Sterling for $20 million dollars. Excerpt of our allegations presented to the Court from our Counter Lawsuit, page 30 of 72 shown below:

24. The evidence reveals that Sterling Currency Group, and its principals, employees, officers, managers, members, directors, owners, agents or associates utilize and benefit from unethical and unfair trade practices delineated in Exhibits A- K, such as: Webspam; tier networks; false advertising; deceptive and misleading statements; fake websites, review sites social profiles of endorsers, and endorsements; stealing and spinning the content of others; stealing others copyrights and trademarks; and filing frivolous and abusive lawsuits. The enormous number of bad acts prevent their enumeration. A few specific examples are referenced as follows and in the pages below:

  1. Webspam: e.g. Exhibit B, p. 16; Exhibit D, p. 13; Exhibit G, pp. 20, 38, 44;
  2. Tier networks: e.g. Exhibit A, p. 3; Exhibit D, pp. 2, 13; Exhibit J, p. 23;
  3. False advertising / deceptive and misleading statements: e.g. Exhibit A, pp. 10-14; Exhibit B, pp. 5-8, 12; Exhibit K, p. 18;
  4. Fake websites, review sites and social profiles: e.g. Exhibit A, p. 14; Exhibit B, p. 7-15; e.g. Exhibit B, pp. 30, 37, 40;
  5. Deceptively using agent websites to build links and promote Sterling Currency Group: e.g. Exhibit D, pp. 1, 13; Exhibit G, pp. 20, 38;
  6. Stealing content, copyright and trademark e.g. Exhibit B, pp. 26-27; Exhibit F; and
  7. Filing frivolous and abusive lawsuit to silence protected speech: e.g. Within Complaint; Exhibit B, pp. 19, 34, 43; Local Civil Rule 83; State Bar of Michigan Rules of Ethics; State Bar of Georgia Rules of Ethics.

25. The evidence reveals Sterling Currency Group and its principals, employees, officers, managers, members, directors, owners, agents or associates, utilize the same Internet marketing agent, Youssef El Hodaigui, who utilizes on their behalf, “black hat” or negative, search engine optimization techniques to promote their businesses. The evidence in the attached Exhibits of the black hat activity and unethical and unfair trade practices is overwhelming.
26. The overwhelming evidence attached shows a total disregard for the law, fair trade and commerce, the public, and the individual by Sterling and its principals, employees, officers, managers, members, directors, owners, agents or associates.

Take Exhibit A page 13 below for example, showing websites containing my copyrighted images taken without permission and used in an elaborate network of webspam to promote Sterling’s online operation. Note that all these websites, registration information and more are listed in Exhibit F Part 1,2,3,4 and 5 titled “Infringement Reports”:
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In the exhibit we presented to the court above, you’ll see a number of websites. You can click on the link below to take you to the digitally preserved site where you can view materiel promoting Sterling Currency Group. You’ll also see work performed on Tyson Rhame’s Sterling Funder, Online Art Group and others.



David Lilenfeld’s connection to Sterling and Youssef El Hodaigui Discovered
Sterling Currency Group’s Attorney, David Lilenfeld, was discovered to be Sterling’s salaried employee, owner and business partner of Sterling Funder with Tyson Rhame, James Shaw, and also manager of Youssef El Hodaigui (‘Khidma’) who we claim worked at manipulating Google for James Shaw, Tyson Rhame and David Lilenfeld, such as LilenfeldPC.com,


SterlingFunder.com, OnlineArtGroup.com, SterlingCurrencyGroup.com, DinarBanker.com, FairfieldFunding.com and more. On a website about John Thomas Shaw you can see use of a hidden link by Youssef’s Web Stromz.

As you read the case, the topic of “Content Spinning” is mentioned repeatedly, an example of Content Spinning can be found in Exhibit A of the “Motion for Protective Order Preventing Sterling from deleting evidence”, page 14 of 26 (27) titled “Stolen Content from Atlanta Attorneys Used to Promote David Lilenfeld’s Atlanta Law Practice, LilenfeldPC.com“.
In Exhibit A page 9 Section V we alleged:
V. Additional evidence of Collusion / Conspiracy lies in that you, David Lilenfeld, with your employee, Youssef El Hodaigui, are stealing the copyrighted articles of other Atlanta attorneys, removing copyright ownership identification and/or credits, taking claim to their material, spinning it, and accordingly causing a reduction in their rank to boost your legal website rank, representing a pattern attributable to your employer, Sterling Currency Group.“

See our page showing a number of articles promoting LilenfeldPC.com and associated author information that led us to make these allegations to the court.


“Sterling Currency Group’s True Purpose” – Page 30


The Sterling Currency Group complaint was filed against IraqiDinar.org AFTER I rejected Sterling’s offer to buy my website and AFTER sites registered by Sterling’s agent Youssef began using my images from IraqiDinar.org for Sterling’s benefit WITHOUT my permission. Exhibits claim that David Lilenfeld gave Google a copy of the lawsuit to remove a Google penalty and restore sterlingcurrencygroup.com’s ranking. In our countersuit, on page 30 titled “Sterling Currency Group’s True Purpose in filing its Complaint against IraqiDinar.org”, it’s explained why we believe the Federal Court was used as a tool to remove a Google Penalty:

28. For years, Iraqidinar.org ‘s message was loud and clear with the website naturally ranking #1 in the search engines for the terms “IRAQI DINAR” and in 2011, the website having achieved a business value of twenty million dollars ($20,000,000.00).
29. For years, Sterling Currency Group d.b.a. dinarbanker.com / https:// sterlingcurrencygroup.com tried to beat Iraqidinar.org ‘s ranking.
30. Sterling tried to beat the rank by utilizing illegal marketing and “black hat” search engine optimization (“SEO”) efforts which did unnaturally increase their website rankings, but prevented them from rising to Iraqidinar.org ‘s #1 natural rank.
31. Unable to beat Iraqidinar.org ‘s ranking and not wanting its message to prevail, Sterling offered to purchase Iraqidinar.org, however, the offer was rejected.
32. Google was catching on to Sterling ‘s bad SEO activities and notified them of their awareness of Sterling ‘s unnatural links. Having learned about some of their black hat search engine activity, Google notified Sterling Currency Group ‘s websites that they may lose any value given to them from unnatural links. Exhibit B, pp. 38-39. See also Exhibit K, a Case Study of a company using the same practices as Sterling Currency Group and Google ‘s response.
33. Thereafter, Sterling hatched a plan to ruin Iraqidinar.org and save face with Google.
34. The overwhelming evidence uncovered to date reveals that Sterling ‘s true purpose in filing its Complaint is:

  • To answer to Google with a cover up that involves intentionally and wrongfully blaming Counter-Plaintiffs for Sterling’s own violations of Google, Microsoft’s Bing, and other search engine policies for legitimately ranking in search engine results;
  • As Sterling’s agent explains, he has been penalized many times in the past and needs a way to cover their tracks (Exhibit B, pp. 36-39, 42). and at the same time,
  • To silence Iraqidinar.org’s warnings about buying Iraqi dinar.
  • Using Counter-Plaintiffs as Sterling’s fall guy also serves to silence protected free speech including warnings about the Iraqi dinar scheme and damage Iraqidinar.org’s search engine rankings so that people searching for information about the Iraqi dinar scheme will never find it.

35. Sterling accomplished its purpose by entwining the Counter-Plaintiffs in its massive world-wide “black hat” SEO and illegal marketing scheme originated to promote its websites and to induce investor consumers to buy its Iraqi dinar.

  • Sterling entwined Counter-Plaintiffs by smearing their copyrights and trademarks throughout the Internet in its world-wide, massive, and intense negative linking campaign.
  • In spite of their own bad acts, Sterling Currency Group responded to Google, by pointing the blame to Counter-Plaintiffs, filing the Georgia lawsuit, and sending notice of the lawsuit to Google, which then returned Sterling’s rank and penalized the falsely accused, Iraqidinar.org, causing over twenty million dollars ($20,000,000.00) in damage.

36. Google fell for Sterling’s ruse and the Counter-Plaintiffs took the blame with Iraqidinar.org falling drastically in the search engine results such that the their message has been silenced, while Sterling maintains its illegitimate ranking.

  • Sterling Currency Group now enjoys the top position for people searching for “Buy Iraqi Dinar” while Iraqidinar.org which ranked #1 for years for the term “IRAQI DINAR”, is now buried 100s of results below, effectively removing it and its important public message from the search results.

37. The hundreds of pages of evidence and the within Complaint filed by Sterling Currency Group reveal that Sterling and its principals, employees, officers, managers, members, directors, owners, agents or associates, obviously will stop at nothing to rank at the top in search engines results for their desired keywords and to continue making hundreds of millions per year (twenty million per month ($20,000,000.00) as per court transcript except, Exhibit M) off unwary investors in unregulated markets and schemes over the Internet such as Iraqi dinar sales, crowdfunding, and structured settlement buyouts.
38. Sterling Currency Group intentionally and wrongfully acted against James Maurer, Monetizers, LLC and IRAQIDINAR.ORG, to promote Sterling ‘s businesses in its scheme, including its massive world-wide internet “black hat” SEO illegal marketing to induce investor to buy their Iraqi dinar while at the same time falsely accusing Counter-Plaintiffs in order to destroy them and deflect the attention of Google, Microsoft’s Bing and other search engines away from Sterling’s own violations of search engine policies created for legitimately ranking in results.

 

Protective Order Preserving Evidence against Sterling

On September 18, we also filed Exhibit A Titled “Defendants / Counter – Plaintiffs’ Motion And Brief In Support Of Protective Order Preserving Evidence” over concern about items such as the one below being deleted. Sterling denied this. In our Motion we claimed that:

14. A photograph relevant to my clients’ Answer, Affirmative Defenses and Counterclaims has been deleted. A screen-shot of the webpage on which the photograph was present, was included in the Answer, Affirmative Defenses and Counterclaims (see Doc #11, Exhibit B, page 36). It is claimed that this is a photograph used to identify marketing director Youssef El Hodaigui.


In response to our claim, Sterling Currency Group filed a signed Affidavit Declaration of Youssef Hodaigui as an attachment opposing our MOTION for protective order #34. In that affidavit, Youssef swears to the court that:

I state that my last edit to this profile (including deletion of my profile photograph) was on March 17, 2012, well before this lawsuit was commenced.

This is interesting for two reasons.

  1. Youssef confirms his trafficplanet.com profile picture and account (see Exhibit B part1 and 2 – amazing stuff!)
  2. His profile picture (alias “Khidma”) was not deleted and still active as of 3/8/2013, well after the lawsuit started (which was in 2012) as the dates on the images below show.

You’ll notice that the Gravatar (which Youssef calls a profile picture) used for Sterling’s marketing agent Youssef existed in 2013 and was then removed. The Gravatar is unique and ties into Black Hat World forum discussions where methods to fool Google are discussed along with purchase and transaction ID information:

[img(880.5px,389.5px)]https://www.iraqidinar.org/wp-content/uploads/sterling-currency-group-lawsuit-evidence-delete-motion.png[/img]

In a lawsuit against Sterling Currency Group by Dinar Corp Inc., a motion was filed to disqualify David Lilenfeld PC – see section C titled “D. Counsel’s alteration of evidence.

What Happened when we Filed our Counter-Lawsuit against Sterling Currency Group?


Sterling Currency Group answered the counterclaim denying all liability.

“Financial Ruin for the Rest of Your Life”
I sent an email trying to reason with Tyson Rhame and get him to look at the evidence we found but his response was nothing like I expected! Rhame responded by threatening financial ruin for the rest of my life and letting me know that he didn’t read one word of the lawsuit because he just doesn’t care. (bold added for clarity)

“I didn’t read the lawsuit (not 1 page or 1 word) and won’t because I don’t care what’s in it” – Exhibit A Page 4 of 25

and then goes on to issue the threats shown below:
We know you have very few assets and we know we could drive you into financial ruin for the rest of your life. – Exhibit A Page 6 of 25

We hire lawyers to handle issues like this. If David gets overwhelmed, we’ll pass it on to King and Spalding, etc until we get the resolution we think is appropriate — David will coordinate all legal activities — he works for us fulltime on salary. – Exhibit A Page 4 of 25

It’s not a worry to us, because you will run out of resources before we do. We don’t mind coming up to your neck of the woods for court or whatever else — we’re not worried and it’s not a hardship. Lawsuits are just a normal course of business and we don’t think about them for more than a minute when we know we’re in the right and will win. – Exhibit A Page 5 of 25

we’ll hire a firm to pursue any judgment for the rest of your life bankruptcy won’t protect you —hiding assets won’t protect you. – Exhibit A Page 4 of 25

Please take a moment to read the entire email, including others sent by Rhame found in Exhibit A.

On October 18th, I responded to Rhame’s emails expressing my concerns about his threats. Rhame responded, but this time a completely different tone and willing to settle.
LAWSUIT SETTLED


After a year long battle in Georgia and getting the case dismissed on jurisdiction, Sterling Currency Group tried again in Michigan. Only a few months after we filed our counterlawsuit, the case was settled on December 17th.

This is only a small part of what was presented in the lawsuits. Take time and read the court exhibits, there is a lot of information in there.

Lilenfeld P.C. Offers Me a Consulting Job

In December of 2015, after numerous threats of a lawsuit by David Lilenfeld, Lilenfeld bypassed my attorney and contacted me directly, something attorneys are not allowed to do when that person is represented by an attorney. I didn’t respond and instead, forwarded the email to my attorney who then called Lilenfeld P.C.

David Lilenfeld told my attorney that he forgot my attorney represented me; he then went on to offer me a consulting job working for Sterling Currency Group. We rejected that offer and explained that I have no interest in working for Sterling Currency Group or anyone related to the company.

Follow the Federal Case Against Sterling Currency Group!
What’s next? Follow the Federal Case the United States Attorney has filed against Sterling Currency Group, Tyson Allen Rhame, James S Shaw, Carole Laurette Shaw, Frank Bell and others.

I’ll cover events as they happen so check back often. I’ll also be writing a book about my ordeal, so if you would like to be the first to read it, let me know and I’ll send you a purchase link when it’s completed – simply drop me an email to author@iraqidinar.org with your name and email address.



https://www.iraqidinar.org/sterling-currency-group-lawsuit-review/
by Ponee
on Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:25 am
 
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Latest from MARTHA

I haven't read anything today but I do have the same group that was told last Wednesday that the window is 10/10 -10/15 for them. Again treat as rumor.

This continues to keep in line with Tony, Bruce, and even Frank! You all have to admit that this is the longest route to a RV. Tonight, the markets go down all around the world .

Tomorrow the 11th would really be a perfect day for the release.

Monday, the 12th is a holiday and markets are open. Some banks like Wells Fargo are open and some are closed.

The 15th will be the UN operational rates if there are changes.

I won't discuss numbers or moons but the #11,dates 10/12 -10/13 in the Hebrew calender are the 29th and 30th and there is a new moon.

And there you have it.
by Ssmith
on Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:55 am
 
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39 Signs the Global Elite’s Ship is Sinking

39 Signs the Global Elite’s Ship is Sinking

Make no mistake about it. The tide has turned on the global elite and there will be no going back. A new day is rising for humanity as those who have planned for complete control are now being exposed, cornered and investigated from many different angles. There is no need to buy into the fear-based propaganda the major media and even several alternative media outlets dispense. Very good things are happening and even better things are coming.
Let’s take a look at some of the major stories that have occurred in the last few months. Piecing the puzzle together, we see that the jig is up and the events surrounding it are growing in size and speed.



Topics tagged under 11 on Dinar Daily 39-Signs-the-Global-Elite%E2%80%99s-Ship-is-Sinking-Lance-Schuttler-330x202
3rd October 2015
By Lance Schuttler
Guest Writer for Wake Up World


39 Signs the Global Elite’s Ship is Sinking






#1: 57 Nations approved as founding members of the China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank. Notable countries who signed on June 29th, 2015 include Russia, India, Iran, Switzerland, Germany, France, Saudi Arabia, Australia, Indonesia, the UK, Italy and Austria. Notables who did not join are the U.S. and Japan.

#2:
May 12th, 2015: Russia asks Greece to join the BRICS Alliance. Notice the BRICS trend in the stories to follow.

#3:
May 24th, 2015: The Pentagon released documents to Judicial Watch, a government watchdog law firm, proving that the US Government played a central role in creating ISIS. Interestingly, the mainstream media failed to cover this story. A few weeks later, ex US Intelligence officials confirm the report.

#4:
May 31st, 2015: Greece’s Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras writes an open letter, warns European leaders they are “making a grave mistake,” and suggests they re-read Hemingways’ “For Whom The Bell Tolls”.

#5:
June 2nd, 2015: The U.S. Federal Government was hacked as the personal data of 4 million current, former and prospective employees believed to have been breached. 3 weeks later FBI Director James Comey told US Senators the actual number could be 18 million. Some believe the hack was coordinated to gather further evidence of crimes by certain government officials. More on that further down.

#6:
June 2nd, 2015: Kentucky Senator Rand Paul calls for the U.S. Government to declassify 28 pages in the 9/11 attack report that the Bush Administration blacked out.

#7:
June 3rd, 2015: Famous musician Akon announces his Solar Academy will bring solar power to over 600 million people in Africa. A major victory for clean energy and humanity.

#8:
June 4th, 2015: Whistle-blower Edward Snowden says a “profound difference” had occurred since releasing the NSA documents and that the balance of power has shifted in our world. Is he referring to the BRICS Alliance?

#9:
June 5th, 2015: “There Will Be A Reset of The Financial Industry.” The International Monetary Fund says the Chinese Yuan is no longer undervalued. This sets the stage for the Yuan to be recognized as a global reserve currency, something the U.S. Dollar (which is backed by war and oil) does not like.

#10:
June 7, 2015: Deutsche Bank, one of the world’s largest banks, Co-CEO’s Jain and Fitschen resign. Two days later, German prosecutors raided the Bank’s headquarters in a criminal tax-fraud probe.

#11:
June 15, 2015: China says the G-7 Summit in Germany was a “gathering of debtors.” They mean this literally as the Bretton Woods western financial system is based on debt. And in fact, the entire western financial system has been running illegally and is technically bankrupt. For more on the real history of Bretton Woods and its connection to JFK, The Global Collateral Accounts and the gold standard, read here.

#12:
June 17th, 2015 is quite the day with the next four stories all being reported at that time. First, JP Morgan’s number 2, the Vice Chairman Jimmy Lee, suddenly and unexpectedly passes over. Since late 2013, the list of high-level banking officials to have passed over has grown to 70. Clearly, something is happening.

#13:
June 17, 2015: Russia and China announced that all natural gas and crude oil sales between the two countries will now be done in Chinese Yuan (formerly the U.S. Dollar) and will be convertible into Russian Rubles. The U.S. Dollar hegemony is waning.

#14:
June 17, 2015: The State of Texas has signed a bill that calls for the repatriation of their gold from the Federal Government. When asked what would happen if the government tried to steal back the gold, State Representative Giovanni Capriglione said this: There is a motto in the office of almost every state legislator in Texas, and it’s a flag that we have [from the Texas Revolution], it’s below a cannon and what the motto says is, “Come and Take it.”

#15:
June 17, 2015: Greece’s Hellenic Parliament’s Debt Truth Committee released a report stating that the debt Greece “owes” is illegal, illegitimate and odious, according to international law. Further, they stated the IMF and ECB (European Central Bank) having illegally and knowingly imposed these illegitimate debts upon Greece and other nations. A direct call out to the global banking cartel.

#16:
June 18th, 2015: Baron David de Rothschild has been indicted by a French court over financial fraud. French police have been ordered by the court to track down Baron. The Rothschild family has long been viewed as the family sitting atop the global financial ponzi scheme. Lawyer Antonio Flores told reporters, “it’s a real breakthrough moment for everyone involved.”

#17:
June 18, 2015: In a 2-1 ruling, the 2nd Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals says Bush era officials can be held liable for detaining innocent people after the 9/11 attack. Will this lead to some major arrests?

#18:
June 19, 2015: While European leaders try to save face on the debt crisis, Greek PM Alexis Tsipras was in Russia and gave a speech at the St. Petersburg Economic Forum, stating that “the economic center of the planet has already shifted” and that new powers are playing an “important role on an economic and geopolitical level.” Now re-read story header number 8… BRICS, anyone? Oh, and Greece and Russia signed a €2 billion gas pipeline deal that day too, a strategic economic and geopolitical game-changer.

#19:
July 5th, 2015: Greece votes “NO” to the creditors’ bailout offer. This is a massive stance for humanity that Greece just took against the banking elite. As of this writing, a “deal” has been reached but is expected to fall apart in the coming days. Kicking the can down the road does not solve the issue, but rather speeds up the revolution mindset of many frustrated Greek citizens. October is when many financial experts are saying that some fireworks are to be expected.

#21:
July 8th, 2015: On this day, several strange events occurred. The NYSE was taken down for multiple hours, the Wall Street Journal was taken offline just after the stock exchange went down, United Airlines was forced to ground all of its flights nationwide due to computer “issues,” and 2,500 people losing power in Washington D.C. This whistle-blower journalist just wrote that his Pentagon sources said the Pentagon/BRICS Alliance took it down as a “dry run.”

Topics tagged under 11 on Dinar Daily 39-Signs-the-Global-Elite%E2%80%99s-Ship-is-Sinking-3


#22:
July 7th, 2015: Backing up one day we see that the hacking group Anonymous tweeted this on the evening prior to the stock exchange hack: Wonder if tomorrow is going to be bad for Wall Street… we can only hope. David Wilcock has previously written a detailed document stating that Anonymous is working with certain patriotic US Military forces to legally take down the banking elite. This aligns nicely with what the whistle-blower journalist, Benjamin Fulford, just wrote this week about the Pentagon and BRICS Alliance in the previous story.

#23:
July 14th, 2015: Iran, China, Russia, France, Germany, the U.K. and the U.S. reach a historic deal on Iran’s nuclear program. Entire books could be written on the geopolitical, financial and technological implications of this move. There are also reports that the reality of this situation is that Iran has free energy technology and will be using this to help bring down the banking/political/oil industry elite. This would make sense as the strongest opponents to this deal have been Israel and its Prime Minister and several American politicians like the Bushes, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz.

#24:
July 15th, 2015: Santa Cruz County votes to stop doing business with 5 major banks, including JP Morgan Chase, Barclays, Citigroup, Royal Bank of Scotland and UBS. Watch this set off a chain reaction in those who will follow suit.

#25:
August 11th, 2015: China (a very influential BRICS member) shocks the markets and the Wall Street banking cartel by devaluing the Yuan by 2%.

#26:
August 12th, 2015: China throws a second punch and devalues the Yuan by another 1.6 %. Two explosions, which are being labeled as nuclear by some, went off in Tianjin, China just 1 day after the bold currency move. As of this writing, 4 explosions have taken place and are suspected as retaliation against the Chinese by the Wall Street banking cartel.

#27:
August 13th, 2015: China devalues the Yuan for the 3rd consecutive day, down a total of 4.65%. As one financial expert wrote, this was “the haymaker.” In layman’s terms, China erased almost 5 years worth of “controlled appreciations” in 3 days. Thus, China (and the BRICS Alliance) just told Wall Street and Washington D.C./London, “we are in full control here and you will play ball by the rules.”

#28:
August 14th, 2015: China once again shocked the world by announcing an updated total of the gold reserves, just 29 days after their last update. In the past, they have updated their reserve total only every 5 or 6 years. Clearly, a transition to the gold standard is at hand. This is the last thing the fiat-based U.S. Dollar and central banking cabal wants and can afford.

#29:
August 24th, 2015: David Wilcock releases a new update stating that his inside sources are telling him the geopolitical situation playing out between the banking cabal and the BRICS alliance is reaching a crescendo.

#30:
August 28th, 2015: North Korea and South Korea agree to hold peace talks as North Korea’s Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un said the agreement is a “landmark occasion” in the road to “reconciliation” and “trust.” Is the banking cabal’s influence over South Korea being dismantled? Its well known they have long controlled South Korea and have infiltrated their governance as a means to keep the two Koreas divided. Secondly, the more that unity and peace spreads, the quicker the cabal falls…and they know this.

#31:
August 31st, 2015: In an article that I highly recommend, the author perfectly describes what China, Russia and the BRICS alliance are doing to the U.S. Dollar and thus to the banking cabal by China dumping billions of Dollars worth of U.S. Treasuries. I’ll leave you with this quote from the article: “China, Russia and much of the international community is signaling that they’re prepared and strapped in… they’re in the cockpit, and have punched their ‘hyper-drive.’ De-dollarization will quicken to warp speed. Eurasia is ready for this rocket ride to begin… and to benefit, on their balance sheets, from the gold (and silver) revaluations shortly to take place.”

#32:
September 1st, 2015: Vladamir Putin drafts a bill aimed at eliminating, yes eliminating, the U.S. Dollar and Euro from trade between CIS countries, which includes Russia, Belarus, Armenia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and other countries of the former Soviet Union.

#33:
September 3rd, 2015: Guatemala erupts in protests calling for the resignation of their President. He does resign and is jailed in connection to a corruption scandal.

#34:
September 3rd, 2015: 34 Senators have committed to support the Iran nuclear deal, which again, is a huge blow to the cabal’s plans. In addition, Saudi Arabia’s King Salman visited Washington over the weekend and has given support to the deal as well. Saudi Arabia, who was once a strong ally to the Bush/Clinton/Israeli syndicate, has essentially turned its back on them.

#35:
September 3rd, 2015: The Japan Bank for International Cooperation announced that it is in the process of turning to currency swaps in rubles (and NOT U.S. Dollars) with several large Russian banks. Remember that Japan was of the two (the U.S. was the other) notable nations that did not join the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank in late June. It seems as though major regime changes are taking place behind closed doors in Japan. Stay tuned.

#37:
September 6th, 2015: Over 105,000 people, including union leaders and Labour Members of Parliament, have signed the petition to arrest Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu for war crimes. Since the petition has reached over 100,000 signatures, the British Parliament must officially consider a debate on the situation.

#38:
September 6th, 2015: Neil Keenan released a new update regarding the global collateral accounts and the stage of the game he and his team are at in legally bringing down multiple very large banks and bankers. For those that don’t know, the global collateral accounts are the single largest financial cover-up in the world to date and have been illegally used and abused by many different banking institutions, governments and corporations. These accounts have strong ties to the assassination of JFK and to 9/11. I cannot over-emphasize the importance of learning about the global collateral accounts and passing that information on to others. Neil has said that it is expected to be around and possibly before January 2016 that very large fireworks (a positive for humanity) take place involving, all the big banks and several governments and corporations. The wait is coming to an end.

#39:
Now: You are here on the planet at this time to make a wonderful contribution. Please continue playing your role for the benefit of us all.

The Final Word

It is clear that something big is happening. Use this information to move forward with optimism and hope. Share with your friends. Discuss with your friends. Continue to search and dig for the truth. Two people I strongly suggest the reader looking into are Benjamin Fulford, the whistleblower who was the Asia Pacific Bureau Chief for Forbes Magazine and is listed in stories number 21 and 22, and Neil Keenan, who is working with many well-connected sources to open up the global collateral accounts. These accounts are what President Kennedy was reportedly assassinated over and are what the banking elite does not want the public to know exists.
This revolution WILL NOT be televised.


http://wakeup-world.com/2015/10/03/39-signs-the-global-elites-ship-is-sinking/
by RamblerNash
on Sun Oct 04, 2015 2:44 pm
 
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Dinar Douchebags Top Ten Reasons the RV is a Scam

REASON #11



TONY RENFROW Promotes it!!!!!
by Ssmith
on Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:13 pm
 
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Questions for TNT Tony

I'd love to post it over at TNT, but neither the list or myself would last very long! 

Question #11 is being discussed in TNT Chat now:

bearfoot wrote
3m ago

Bit puzzling how 404 changes to 865 for one call and is first to get on yet others try for months. Makes you go hmmm?? I see a book deal coming from this "Dialing Secrets of the Dinarians"

cj101 wrote
1m ago

bearfoot. If you call 10-15 hours ahead of time, you can get on. The only problem is if your phone system cuts you off after awhile as mine does. 404 apparently calls hours and hours before.


cj101 wrote
57s ago

Bearfoot. Also, some call TNT early but forget to put their hand up so they think they're in line when they are not
by Ssmith
on Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:36 pm
 
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Topic: Questions for TNT Tony
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WHAT IS THE TRUTH?

Aside from the fact that there is evidence that the gurus are being paid by currency dealers (recent Sterling raid), why would a country revalue their currency that would make so many outside of that county multi-millionaires?  How did that much hard currency leave the country in the first place?

Gurus talk about Iraq is going to have the most valuable currency in the middle east.  You can't compare apples to oranges.  All things need to be equal.....like the amount of currency, i.e., M0, M1, M2, etc.

Iraq sits at the #9 oil producer.   Kuwait is #11   http://www.indexmundi.com/g/r.aspx?v=88&t=20   Gurus say Iraq's currency will RV to be on par w/Kuwaits.  Well, then the amount of currency would have to be in the same range.  It's not even close.  People argue that CBI doesn't have accurate numbers.  But would they be that far off?

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/iraq/money-supply-m2

Money Supply M2 in Iraq increased to 91704 IQD Billion in December of 2014 from 88007 IQD Billion in November of 2014.



http://www.tradingeconomics.com/kuwait/money-supply-m2

Money Supply M2 in Kuwait increased to 35385.10 KWD Million in April of 2015 from 35002.50 KWD Million in March of 2015


Sterling admits there is no Iraqi RV on the horizon and also that they paid 'gurus' to promote it.  http://www.docdroid.net/132iq/doc-2-6-9-2015-amended-complaint.pdf.html

This video breaks things down well:  http://www.learningmarkets.com/the-iraqi-dinar-scam/

Bottom line....If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.  Life is full of lessons.  Learn from them.

And one more thing.  A large section of Iraq is controlled by ISIS and it is looking more and more likely that the country could very well split along Sunni, Shiite, Kurdish lines.
by Ssmith
on Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:27 pm
 
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Topic: WHAT IS THE TRUTH?
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COURT DOCS-DAN ATKINSON PAID BY DINAR CORP AND STERLING

This discussion is only about the civil case between 2 dinar sales company. Ty bullied Dan. Ty has in house counsel and according to #11 loves the lawsuit. Very routine turf war lawsuit. Often, these cases waste the court's time and they get thrown out of court or settled before going to court. loser pays the lawyer and any court fees. Pretty standard stuff. ( The 14 courts were mainly trademark, copyright infringement issues) It's not about advertising on a dinar site. Dan was  just testifying against Ty's character. One of many witnesses, I am sure.
The real case will come up in about 2 years. I wonder what the feds will charge Ty with. maybe fraud of some sort. good he has in house counsel.
by Toby1
on Mon Jun 08, 2015 2:33 pm
 
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Topic: COURT DOCS-DAN ATKINSON PAID BY DINAR CORP AND STERLING
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