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my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 08:09:47 AM »
My brother reconnected with a female friend from grade school about 9 months ago and they are going to get married in May 2018. She is a nice girl with a good heart. However, she is really excited about the Iraqi Dinar RV (re-evaluation) that is going to happen within the next 3-6 months (according to her). 

She pretty much brain washed my brother into buying into this idea. My brother has a 4 year degree in Business Entrepreneurship. He is all about the high risk and high reward type of thing. He tried and failed a few MLM businesses over the last 5-10 years. She graduated high school. They are both 36. 

However, this type of business scheme is a little bit of a stretch for my brother, but not entirely uncommon. 

My brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my birthday last June and for Christmas. He also bought it for my wife and 1 year old son. We have about 400,000 of Iraqi Dinar, which I think is about 325 US dollars. He is giving me a hard sell to buy some for myself or I could miss out on some big profits of 100 to 1, when it re-evaluates. 
 
The best article I could find out about it is below. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jayadkisson/2012/07/30/you-cant-fix-stupid-the-iraqi-dinar-scam-lives/#3f398ae3150b

1) Any chance that I could politely tell my brother to stop buying me this crap?

2) Any chance that I could politely tell my brother to stop buying it for himself? 

3) How do the sellers make money? Do they just give the buyer a poor exchange rate?

4) What is the best way to convert my Iraqi Dinar back into US currency? 

Thank you.
« [i]Last Edit: December 27, 2017, 01:35:31 PM by clarkfan1979[/i] »



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #1 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 12:32:17 PM »
Good luck getting him to change his mind...

As for converting them to US dollars, ask your bank/credit union. There is usually one bank in the area that specializes in currency. In my area (Salt Lake City) it is Zion’s Bank. Call first. 

Good Luck




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #2 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM »
Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?

That not being the case, here's my thinking, for what it's worth (which should be very little, since, as admitted above, I have zero familiarity with the topic): If there's even a small chance of the "100 to 1" valuation, why not hold onto the stuff for now, just for fun? 

As for your questions:

1) Good luck with that. Forbes is well-known and as far as I know has a good reputation; could you send him that article?

2) See (1) above.

3 & 4) No effing clue. 



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #3 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:22:33 PM »
So when the Iraqis lop off a couple of zeroes off the currency, you'll basically be left with monopoly money.

The old banknotes obviously cease to be legal tender, with new ones issued in replacement.

People are still falling for Zimbabwe money scams. Looks like the scammers are expanding their repertoire...



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #4 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:37:20 PM »
Quote from: Miss Piggy on December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM

Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?

That not being the case, here's my thinking, for what it's worth (which should be very little, since, as admitted above, I have zero familiarity with the topic): If there's even a small chance of the "100 to 1" valuation, why not hold onto the stuff for now, just for fun? 

As for your questions:

1) Good luck with that. Forbes is well-known and as far as I know has a good reputation; could you send him that article?

2) See (1) above.

3 & 4) No effing clue. 




I modified the topic. Thank you for the suggestion.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #5 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:59:24 PM »
On a side note, don't lend them money, and don't let them know how much you have. Just in case.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #6 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 02:07:08 PM »
Oh, the glorious Christmas gift of ENTERTAINMENT!   ClarkFan1979, so sorry you had to be the conduit for this pile of chuckles.  At least he is giving to you, not (so far) trying to get you to buy his wares, as so often happens in MLMs.  In my own mind, I will classify him as Kindhearted Bro until further notice.

Re your questions:
1. Of course you can tell him, but why rain on his parade?  He is not going to learn from you, only from experience, if at all.  He will, however, feel the love or disdain in your response.  Tell him you admire his bold spirit, and ask him if he's going to take you to Acapulco or Dubai when his dinars revalue.

2. See 1.  

3. I was wondering that myself.  I can only assume they sell above the exchange rate, or sell counterfeits, or sell the old notes that have been replaced by new ones when the Iraqi government lopped three zeroes off a few years ago (I read that Forbes article).  Best guess: selling the valueless old notes at the price of the new notes.  Great margins, plus they can appear to be giving zero markup.

4. Exchange it for Bitcoin!  Bwahaha, my whole response was just to make this one brief joke.  

Quiet times here, hope this offered a shred of amusement.  In all seriousness, I once had a friend whose financial schemes ranged from wild failure to just being broke on a regular basis.  The choice was to enjoy to his merry ways at the price of observing his failures, or block him off and wonder what was happening.  I chose to enjoy his merry ways.  Even more so, a relative is someone you don't want to block off unless staying connected is actively harmful.  Good luck getting rid of the bills or coins.  And having lost a relative or two in recent year, treasure your brother for who he is, even if it's not (fortunately!!) who you are.   Cheers.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #7 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 02:47:28 PM »
Quote from: Miss Piggy on December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM

Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?



Yes, huge disappointment. :p

+1 to exchange for Bitcoin.
+1 for being supportive to Kindhearted Bro, who sincerely thinks this will lead to mega riches and wants to share that prospect with you.

Answers to 1 & 2)
Explain that although you support him, you're a much more conservative investor and would prefer index funds instead... or traditional gifts such as clothes, gift cards, gadgets (even if you don't like them/need them it would still be preferable to his MLM stuff).




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #8 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 04:16:39 PM »
How does everyone NOT know this scam.  This is older than the Nigerian prince scam.  Go convert all that junk into real money.  Tell your brother that's what you did and if he gives you any more, you'll do it again.  Your brother should sell Amway.  Way better chance of making money than with this scam.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #9 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 02:48:45 AM »
I had some left over from Iraq deployments and eventually sold it all on Ebay. 

Ask your brother this... how can he explain the 100 to 1 value increase?  So you're saying an Iraqi could take his dinar and suddenly be 100x richer if he changes it to dollars (after the valuation)?  We're about to be flooded with Iraqi millionaires then. 

Secondly, if it was a real 'investment', then real rich folks would be buying every single dinar they could get their hands on.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #10 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 06:30:38 AM »
If your brother is anything like mine, tell him this is the best idea he’s ever had and you wished you thought of it. Tell him you support him 100% and you’d invest everything you have except you can’t but that he should right away. Cause if your brother is anything like mine, he’ll do the opposite of whatever you tell him and reject all of your advice.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #11 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 07:19:07 AM »
This scam has been going on for almost a decade. 

I have met quite a few people over the years who have tried to get me to "buy in". 

Good luck.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #12 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 08:32:11 AM »
Say thank you for the gift. Turn it into USD and invest it. Leave the issue alone. You are not going to solve your brother's problem.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #13 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 01:29:25 PM »
It's ironic that this is getting posted today. I was listening to NPR this morning and they had a segment on the Iraqi government's estimate on the cost to rebuild the destruction caused by ISIS. Unfortunately, no one is willing to help them finance the reconstruction effort and I imagine the Iraqi dinar will take a bigger hit when the government starts printing more money to rebuild. 

Zimbabwe Dollars though...those have value. I keep a few of those notes around around my MegaCorp office just in case we have a bad quarter in terms of revenue. For some reason my bosses don't seem to derive much comfort from the fact that if we're behind I can give them 10 BILLION DOLLARS!!!1!



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #14 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 01:47:20 PM »
Oh this brings back memories of a nutter I knew a few years ago. I think the north Korean currency is the other one these folks also say is set to explode.  

I suppose it could be entertaining reading.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #15 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 02:28:57 PM »
I bought some when I was deployed in 2004-2005. About $200 worth (250,000 dinar). Last time I checked it's gone up in value to about $210. I suppose that's better than if I had left it in a savings account but had it been in an index fund it would have doubled or tripled since then. I can't recall what the rate of return has been but it's something like 1-2% over 12-13 years.

It was neat to pull it out and show my kids as I had a mix of various bills. That's about it though. It's just a souvenir at this point. Maybe I should sell some of it to your brother?



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #16 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 06:48:28 PM »
Sell it to your brother Smile




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #17 on:[/b] December 31, 2017, 08:53:21 AM »
Thank you for the help. I will continue to support my brother with his business adventures, but not contribute any of my own money. 
 
I'm going to try to exchange it within the next 2-3 days. Not all currency exchange businesses will exchange the Dinar. I'm guessing there is a higher risk of counterfeit. Hopefully my Dinar is not counterfeit.  I will find out soon. 



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #18 on:[/b] January 06, 2018, 08:52:45 PM »
I exchanged the Iraqi Dinar currency today for US dollars. An internet search today claims that $400,000 Iraqi Dinar is worth $337 US dollars. I went to the currency exchange in Denver at the Cherry Creek mall. They gave me $230 US dollars, minus a $5 fee for a total of $225. I have heard that a currency exchange will change 20%. However, this was a 33% fee. 

Maybe the fee is higher because of a higher level chance of fraud? When I looked at their board of exchange rates it looks like they charged only 15% for more legitimate currencies.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #19 on:[/b] January 06, 2018, 10:52:03 PM »
Quote from: clarkfan1979 on January 06, 2018, 08:52:45 PM

I exchanged the Iraqi Dinar currency today for US dollars. An internet search today claims that $400,000 Iraqi Dinar is worth $337 US dollars. I went to the currency exchange in Denver at the Cherry Creek mall. They gave me $230 US dollars, minus a $5 fee for a total of $225. I have heard that a currency exchange will change 20%. However, this was a 33% fee. 

Maybe the fee is higher because of a higher level chance of fraud? When I looked at their board of exchange rates it looks like they charged only 15% for more legitimate currencies.



They'll just be profiting on the currency spread. They might sell that 400,000 dinar to someone for $400 later on. The more common currencies that'll be easier for them to on-sell (and potentially less volatile) will probably have more competitive rates. Smile

I've got some Sri Lankan rupees I've been meaning to sell from when I was there last year. They're valued at 120LKR to the Australian dollar at present (based on xe.com rates), but the currency conversion place will buy them at 140LKR to the AUD. I paid about 105-110 when I bought them Smile




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #20 on:[/b] January 07, 2018, 05:43:33 PM »
Wowza, the spread on Polish Zlote (PLN) is about .02-.03PLN per dollar, or about one cent. 

33% sounds insane, so does 15%. 




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #21 on:[/b] January 07, 2018, 08:39:04 PM »
The thread reminded me that I have a butter tub of Saudi Riyals from Desert Storm.
I'll have to count it and see what it's worth.




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 I have been seeing some USN stories lately and it is a CLEAR sign to me that EVERYTHING we want is right on schedule. The USN is the new Gold Backed currency of the Republic. Here is the latest news on the USN:

"Bank intel, USN" by Geoffrey - 2.25.17

It is so interesting that we are looking for clues all over the place to verify that this top secret World Change over is both REAL and immanent, and yet one single item actually PROVES EVERYTHING! Yes, as the title of this post reveals, it is the USN that tells the whole story and is all the proof we need, that we are actually on track to everything we have been told and promised. Here is how...

#1) USN Means Gold Backed

The fact that the USN has been acknowledged by Banking personnel as well as many others, is PROOF that the New Gold Backed Money is really coming.

#2) Gold Backed Means The World

The fact that there really is new USA Gold Backed Money coming means that all the other countries of the World are going Gold Backed as well since there is no way that we would be the only ones changing.

#3) The World Going Gold Backed Means Equality

If all the countries of the World are Going Gold Backed as well, it only works if their currency values are adjusted to be on par with each other.

#4) World Currencies On Par With Each Other

Having all the World's currencies being adjusted to be on par with each other means that those countries who's currency values are greatly undervalued compared to everyone else are going to be adjusted up, WAY UP, to be on par with the other countries. That MEANS THE GCR IS REAL.

#5) If The GCR is REAL

If the GCR is Real, then anyone who happens to be holding currencies that are greatly undervalued, such as the first basket currencies, will realize a HUGE increase in value when said adjustment happens.

#6) No Double Dipping

Because there is an all go, or none go and a deliberate plan to prevent Double dipping, by reinvesting money from one currency revaluation on the next currency revaluation, they will all go at once. Since all the currencies will go at once, that means that THEY WILL ALL GO, and none of them will be left behind.

#7) Stories of The USN Means Treasury Money

Stories of the USN MEANS that it is our new Treasury that is issuing the money. This means that not only is the Fed Dead, but that the REPUBLIC is Alive!

#8) The Republic Alive Means NESARA

The fact that the Republic is alive and in the process of showing itself, means that NESARA, the new governmental structures are also in the Process as well, since the Republic is based on the new NESARA Principles.

#9) NESARA Means GESARA

The fact that NESARA is coming into action here in the Republic of the United States, means that soon the World will be changing over to GESARA, which is the global version of this same governmental structure and principles.

#10) GESARA Means World Peace

Since GESARA is Coming in to Power all over the World, that means that the World will be at peace from now on and War will no longer be permitted or tolerated by any country in the World.

#11) GESARA & World Peace

GESARA and World Peace also signals multiple trusts that will start paying out Trillions of dollars in many different forms to all the people of the World. These include huge trusts such as the St. Germaine Trust, The Lee Wanta Trust, and many others.

#12) NESARA & GESARA Means New Technologies Released

Another important aspect of the NESARA & GESARA implementation is the release of hidden technologies and health remedies that have been held back by the Cabal. This leads to such things as immediate cures for most medical problems and introduction of free energy devices and anti gravity craft to name a few.

#13) NESARA Means Top Level Arrests & Trials Begin

Another important aspect of the NESARA implementation is the immediate arrests of top Cabal operatives, resignation of all current political positions, and new elections for President and other positions. It also means the resignation from the BAR of all attorneys' and retraining them in Constitutional law.

#14) Bank Awareness Of The USN Means Immanent GCR

The fact that Bank employees are aware of, and acknowledge the USN, means that they have been trained on it, and will be available soon. Additionally, many claim it is in their vaults now and will be released soon.

#15) USN Availability Means CGR

There is no way that the GOLD Backed USN can be distributed, unless the GCR has already happened. If the USN is about to be available, that means the GCR is about to happen.

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The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that while USN reports and stories seem to be of little value, they actually PROVE EVERYTHING IS TRUE AND ABOUT TO HAPPEN. The USN availability means World Gold Back GCR, NESARA/GESARA, World Peace, New Technologies and Health remedies, High Level Cabal Arrests and Trials, New Elections, and the Release of countless Trust to the people of the World. In short, when you have Proof of the USN, you have proof of EVERYTHING!

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams

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I sent an email to Mr. Cottrell asking about his connection to our trust and payments to the shareholders. After the first response below, I sent another email asking for a clarification about an initial payment.

As stated in his responses, there is no direct connection between CMKX and his action regarding the codes he will receive.

Date: 13 March 2017

To: Ms. Jessup (Linda)

Ref: (A) Michael C. Cottrell Affirmation (#1)
dated 20 December 2014
Items: #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, and #9

(B) Michael C. Cottrell Affirmation (#2)
dated 6 January 2015
Item: #6

(C) Michael C. Cottrell Affirmation (#3)
dated 9 January 2015
Item: #13

(D) Michael C. Cottrell Affirmation (#4)
dated 18 January 2015
Item: #28

(E) CapnGriff and Response by Michael Cottrell
dated 15 April 2016


Dear Ms. Jessup (Linda),

Thank you for your email regarding the CMKX issue. Although I am NOT a shareholder, the circumstance regarding the confusion over my role, the payment of the FINES, INTEREST, AND PENALTIES (FIPs), and the remittance of the CMKX funds from the "Mahue Trust", per Al Hodges, Attorney-at-Law.

My involvement with Al Hodges began as the result of Chris Story, FRSA, contacting me for permission to release an article to Al Hodges regarding the CMKX $12.5 Billion dollar theft, by Bush Sr.. After several conversations, between the three of us, Chris and I decided that we needed an alternative method of evidencing my Affidavits (of 2008, etal.), to Her Majesty the Queen of the United Kingdom. We had reason to believe the previous method had been re-routed to 10 DOWNING STREET without our knowledge. Al Hodges provided a successful method to deliver the packages to Her Majesty, without problems.

Per the above Referenced items, on 21 March 2013, approximately 200+ countries signed a "Gold Treaty" that designated a loan, enmass, that would satisfy the BASEL III LIST, of which I was a named participant. This Treaty will eliminate the Fiat monies and derivative system once and for all.

Within the GOLD TREATY I am named as the Primary Designee to receive the CODES that will FUND THE NEW REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TREASURY, and release the GOLD-BACKED UNITED STATES NOTES (USNs) ---- WHICH INCLUDES THE GOLD-BACKED FUNDS FOR CMKX.

That is the extent of my involvement with CMKX.

Now, as to when this will happen.....I DO NOT KNOW. It is determined by "THE GOLDEN DRAGON" who signed for the massive Gold amounts which will be distributed via the GOLD TREATY. I am in the dark as much as all of the CMKX shareholders.

I hope this answers your question, but if you have any more, please call or email.

Respectfully,

Michael C. Cottrell, B.A., M.S.
President & CEO
Pennsylvania Investments, Inc.
Erie, PA

His second response:

Date: 14 March 2017
To: Ms. Jessup (Linda);
Re: Payment process for CMKX


Dear Ms. Jessup (Linda),

I appreciate your inquiry regarding the payment of the CMKX funds; however, as far as I have been advised --- thus far, I will have NO FURTHER involvement with the payment or the payment process --- once I have entered the CODES into the NEW REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED STATES TREASURY that will unlock the Gold-Backed USNs.

The question of the payment process should be directed to Al Hodges. Since I am not a shareholder of CMKX and have no standing in the matter, I do not have any information relating to how or what process has been setup.

This response and the earlier reply may be posted at your convenience. However, upon advice from the International Authorities, I am not permitted to access any "boards" (Ref: Michael C. Cottrell Affirmation dated 20 December 2014).

If you have any further questions, feel free to email them.

Respectfully,

Michael C. Cottrell, B.A., M.S.
President & CEO
Pennsylvania Investments, Inc.
Erie, PA

Although this does not provide us with information about any payments, it does IMO eliminate the possibility that they will come directly from Mr. Cottrell.

Mrs. Redcat
by Ssmith
on Fri Mar 17, 2017 9:51 am
 
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Topic: Iko Ward 3/17/17
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Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of February 15, 2017

#13 ; I wish the gurus where taken care of, nevertheless it to bad that I can't leave comments on dinar chronicles, blog, I know there is a real good reason why, so you leave all these guru's posts & sites to go to, but they have been wrong a 100% for years, but I have not heard anything on any alternative news agencies, about what you have stated, you have all this Intel but no legitimate news media has not released one sentence that you have quoted here , can you explain that? Well I can . At least there are two truths in your post, we have now a new Secretary of Treasury, & about mind control there is some truth in that too, you gurus have done a pretty good job of brainwashing techniques on people. So I can't really say your whole post was not completely fake news.
by Chaz
on Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:34 am
 
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Topic: Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of February 15, 2017
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11/22/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

Guru OkieOilman:  "THE OVEN CONTINUES AT 440 DEGREES & THE TURKEY IS ON SLOW BAKE FOR ARRIVAL VERY SOON. CONTRACTORS HAVE BEEN PAID IN IRAQ AT AN "IN COUNTRY RV RATE" OF 3.75 AS OF NOW. WE ARE IN PROCESS OF THIS WORLD EVENT WHICH SHALL COME TO FRUITION. BULLDOG75 SPEAKS FOR US. NUFF SAID."


Guru ScottiG:
 
BELLS ON AND READY TO DANCE, WE HAVE SO MUCH TO BE THANKFUL FOR TO THE ONE THAT HAS GIVEN IT ALL. i SPOKE TO OKIE TODAY AND THE COMMUNICATION HAS NOT WORKED OUT FOR OKIE, 

FIRST WE ARE IN A GREAT PLACE...THE VERY BEST PLACE AND I KNWO FOR CERTAIN THAT THAT RV PROCESS HAS BEEN STARTED

WE HAE TALEN ALOT OF FLACK WE DON'T GET PAID FOR PUMPING. WE TRY TO BRING THE MOST CREDIBLE AND MOST ACCURATE AND THE RATE WILL BE CLOSE TO KUWAIT. i KNOW THAT 3.75 WAS PAID. CONFIRMED THAT THIS IS HAPPENED

I can't stay here but for a few minutes. I have had the phone stuck to my ear since very early this morning. I am digging in attempts to fine tune the information that came in yesterday. I promise you the last thing I wanted to do was share information that put our time frame further out. I am still confident that we will see the completion of the rate adjustment very soon. When I know more, I promise I will come here first and share. I had a good long visit with Okie this mornig and he felt bad about not being able to get through to be on the call last night. Please know that we are doing our very best for this site and for the Lord. When it comes right down to it....He is the one we all should please. Bear and I both will continue to bring only verifiable and credible information here. I do not do the rumor mill. If we share information that we stand upon, it is because it has been checked out. There are many things I am looking at and will compare notes with my sources later. Until then, please continue to be patient. Consider the encouragement Bear and I have shared with you. I hope you will just rest and relax for we are extremely close! Thanks and be back as soon as I am able


Guru FreewayBill:  No reported delays according to everyone I have talked to this evening.... looks like we may see this very soon... yes, you have heard this before, but that is because we are still in the moment... That's all I have for now...

Every single information gatherer is saying the same thing.


Guru Historian:  11/26/11 is the Islamic new year, a great timing for the "new phase" of Iraq.

Also there were some sanctions implemented on Iran yesterday, possibly to slow the RV money from/to Iran as a security measure, this is very significant


Guru AJ Anderson:  We are in a good window of opportunity for this RV thing to happen, but that does not mean it will happen, due to the negotiation’s that are now taking place with all countries hedging one another to find some balance. Some are not pleased and some are very happy.

Here's a piece of intel I am aware of that I have been holding back since yesterday. I was headed to town to take care of some business and on the radio international news was talking about Maliki being in China. The radio stated "China told Maliki that, we are not going to do business with you until you revalue your money". WOW, I said to myself, I need to check into this! I have known since last summer that BIG lumber mills in the Pacific Northwest has been selling lumber to China by the hundreds of millions of board feet. I know this because my brother in law is a big manager at one of these mills.

So, I call him yesterday and he told me they were still milling for China and the lumber was being loaded into ships at the docks in Portland Oregon at $856 per Thousand Board Feet and headed for Iraq. He told me, at this time, there is no end in sight to stop milling.

Me knowing China has the biggest housing deal in Iraq, they need the lumber. The start up money for those orders is coming from part of the DFI funds and so where's the rest coming from? There's only one answer to that question and I think you know that answer, from what the radio news broadcaster said, China told Maliki. I Know you know the rest of the story, We Are Getting Close! AJ



Guru Bear5642: ALL INFORMATION HAS BEEN VERIFIED AND VERIFIED MULTIPLE TIME AND WE UNDERSTAND YOUR FLUSTRATIONS 

WE COULDNT GO INTO DETAIL AS TO WHY WE WERE TOLD NOT BY THANKSGIVING, HOWEVER, IT WILL BE WITHIN A FEW DAYS AND IM STILL MAKING PLANS TO CASH OUT SOON. IT IS NOT “O”, PLEASE BELIEVE ME HE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS DELAY… we do have information as to what is actually going on…and its not political…it is a matter of simple economics if that helps… IT IS IN IRAQ AND IT IS SMALL ON…i hope and believe it will go now in just a few days and dont see this going past next friday, it can actually happen this friday…I DONT SE IT GOING PAST DECEMBER, ABSOLUTELY NOT, IT IS A PROBLEM THAT CAN BE SOLVED AND THEY ARE WORKING ON IT, CANT SAY MUCH MORE THOUGH…JUST BE PATIENT.


Guru TNT Tony: Got a call from someone who is not on the boards, who is involved in dinar, said on Fox news on Saturday, they said “Iraqi dinar was the highest currency in the world”, they just knew that the RV would be today/tomorrow. Still looking for this any minute, any hour. I’m excited. If you were paying attention, the Super Committie went away, that was the last hold up…if it was from Saturday night the 72 hours started…that’s what your window is…things are still processing…it’s being done, just be patient, you’re going to see it, that part has not changed. It’s going to be a great week, we are absolutely at the end.


Guru DinarWishes: we are digging to find what we can and the DAY IS STILL YOUNG!!! I will say that I truly believe we will have more than just turkey to be thankful for this week!!! Just know we are putting every effort into searching for this and getting the best information we can give out to you guys!!!


Guru Checkmate Dan: LETS NOT FORGET THAT THIS IS A WEEK OF THANKS FOR MANY REASONS, SOME BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAY, OTHERS BECAUSE THEY UNDERSATND THE MEANING OF LIFE, YET THE REST BECAUSE THE RIDE IT ABOUT TO BE OVER…THERE IS GOOD NEWS AND THERE IS A GREAT DAY IN FRONT OF US!!!!!


Guru Jonnywg:  WELL MY FRIENDS YET AGAIN WE COME TO THE FINISH LINE WITH NO RESULTS. I CANNOT EXPRESS HOW DISAPPOINTED I AM FOR WE HOLDERS OF DINAR. OUR SOURCES WERE POSITIVE THAT THIS WAS OUR TIME. GOVERNMENT SOURCES FELT THAT IT WAS THE END. MY FEELINGS AND SYSTEMS CHECKS ALL POINTED TO AN RV OVER THE PAST WEEK AS THERE LITERALLY IS NOTHING LEFT TO HOLD THIS UP.. I WILL PROMISE YOU THAT I WILL DO MY BEST TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT IF ANYTHING WENT WRONG. I THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND RESOLVE TO DO BETTER

[size=18]UST still in lockdown as of 4PM. Bank screens are still 00.000.  [/size][size=18]RV should be any time today or tomorrow.  [/size][size=18]China is influencing the RATE ... AND made it higher. [/size][size=18]All admins say we are FINISHED......BUT not released yet.[/size][size=18]It is hard for me to think that they can come up with more delays....all is done.  [/size][size=18]No commitment but 3.41 to 7 looks good.     [/size][size=18]done by end of day at latest.   [/size][size=18]China and Japan heavily invested in IQD .... leverage for them.  [/size][size=18]Do not listen to any talk of lopping the 3 zeroes .... period
this time there was no misinfo…all verified and still true…no answers…UST still in lockdown, RV in country confirmed, I think we are waiting for UST to end input…then RV…we have confirmed that govt employees and contracters have received an rv’d value for their dinar…LATE BREAKING NEWS: 72 hrs may not have started FRIDAY…we are researching.[/size]


Guru Kaperoni: 10 reasons why the IQD will not LOP:

1. Monetary policy was a success talking inflation from 35% or higher to around 7% currently.

2. Any type of currency devaluation (LOP) is considered a failure of monetary policy. Dr. Shabibi has not failed. 3. Lesser value notes in circulation such as 50, 250, 500. Devaluing the larger

3 zero notes would make them worth less than these lesser notes.

4. Iraq wants the dinar to be an international reserve currency. Cannot devalue the notes in reserve (25,000), circulate them as payment, or traded amongst countries.

5. Iraq holds arguable the second largest oil reserves and is mineral rich. They are too wealthy to not honor the value stated on the notes.

6. Iraq has stated. They want the “strongest currency in the Middle East” Any such type of LOP would be a devaluation and therefore not considered strong.

7. US holds dinar as a result if funding the CBI initial reserves. This dinar will eventually payoff the war debt.

8. One of the authors of the currency exchange plan – Assistant Professor Dr. Fadel states in his documentation, “We must emphasize the extremely important issue is that if you remove three zeroes from the currency should not affect the actual value thereof to be trading in the old currency…

9. In 2003 when the NID was introduced at it’s initial rate, the previous currency was in essence devalued taking all wealth from the country to prevent funding of terrorism. Raising the currencies value will in essence, return that wealth now that the GOI is stable and economic conditions have improved.

10. The CBI has stated “both currencies will co-exist” and the process will not change the “monetary value” of the dinar.


Guru BWM:  OK... it was relatively quiet today... nothing negative... the Super Committee was set up to fail, you have the most conservative Republicans and the most liberal Democrats...no way anything was getting done... just killing time... There is still a chance this could happen tonight... so don't get wound up by those already bailing on their latest guess and back wall that says it can't happen by this date or that... until there is a reason that it is being held up it can still go IMO


Guru Med: I PAY ATTENTION TO ONE PERSON, SHABIBI AND WHATEVER HE STATES IS WHAT IT IS TO BE AND THE LAST EXPLANATION THAT CAME TO US BY HIM IS: INCREASED PURCHASING POWER BY RAISING THE ZERO’S, ISSUING NEW DENOMS IN 3 LANGUAGES AND THEN OVER TIME RETIRING THE LARGE DENOMS OVER ABOUT A 2 YR PERIOD, THAT HE WANTS A RATE COMPARIBLE TO THE USD SO IT WILL BE AN EASY TRANSITION AND WILL MAKE THE IRAQI PEOPLE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IN USING IT IN TRANSACTIONS. IT WAS STATED THAT THIS WILL BE POSITIVE FOR THE POOR AND BE NEGATIVE FOR THE WEALTHY OR ENTITLED.

Guru Mailman17: THURSDAY, NOT ON THE DOCKET FOR SHABS BILL BUT WE SHALL SEE…THIS IS OF COURSE IRAQ WHAT THEY SAY AND WHAT THEY DO ARE MOST OF THE TIME 2 DIFFERENT THINGS. IF NOT THIS THURS…THEN WE WAIT TILL NEXT THURS. JUST BE PATIENT OUR TURN WILL COME


Guru Lawman (GET): It seems that ALL is imminent……..Yes, it looks that way!
If you were a Muslim and you are in the middle of a Religious Holiday ( banks and government buildings are closed until Thursday morning) Would you be happy if the rest of the world benefited from an RV 2 to 3 days BEFORE YOU?.

NO……me neither……….So, could we assume that should it RV this week, it would be better to wait until Thursday or Friday?.

Part of addressing the world imbalances……..Diplomacy is involved in this, too!  Is Friday Iraq’s favourite RV Day?.
What date is Friday?  Could the GBP and USD be revalued too? (A POINT USUALLY FORGOTTEN)

As of today…GBP=$1.60………Some of the calculations on these boards are…. well……diplomatically…..NOT VERY GOOD!

……Should GBP devalue down to £=$1.50…..and 1IQD=£4.44…………What would the $ rate be? (other mathematical variations work with this as well…simple multiplication) ….

Let me help….Should GBP devalue to 1£=$1.50…..and 1IQD=£4.44……the U.S. rate would be $6.66!!!!!….SHOCK AND AWE!!!!….just a thought..


OOM SECURITY MEASURES:
# 1 DO NOT PARK IN BANK PARKING LOTS. WOULD SHOW YOUR CAR TAGS.

#2 GO TO BANK WITH FELLOW DINARIAN, SOMEONE REALLY CLOSE TO YOU. WEAR CAP, SUNGLASSES. TAKE TAXI PARK 1-2 MILES AWAY, YOU CAN BE FOLLOWED OR TAILED

:#3 MAKE AN APPOINTMENTS KNOW THAT THEY ARE DEALING IN DINAR

#4 DO NOT CASH IN ALL AT ONE TIME AND SEEK ADVICE. KNOW YOUR RATES AND KNOW THAT THEY CAN FLUCTUATE AND THEY CAN COME IN LOW, MEDIUM AND HIGH

#5 HAVE A PRE-DETERMINED GAME PLAN: WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, WHY,
KNOW YOUR GAME PLAN

:#6 GET PROFESSIONAL ADVICE THROUGH BANKER OR DEALER. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CPA/ATTORNEY COMBINATION. USE ATTORNEY'S PHYSICAL ADDRESS FOR YOUR CORPORATION.

:# 7: WATCH BODY LANGUAGE AND OTHERS BODY LANGUAGE TELLERS ETC

#8: BE RELAXED AND READY

#9 NO RUSH TO CASH IN; KNOW YOUR RATES AND WHAT TO DO & BARGAIN. WE ARE NOT QUOTING RATES OR DATES

:# 10 MAKE SURE IN NON INTEREST BEARING CHECKING ACCOUNT AND THEN HAVE WIRED TO DIFFERENT ACCOUNT. SEEK PROFESSIONAL ADVICE.

#11 MANY INVESTMENTS INSURE UP TO 1 BILLION DOLLARS AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE AND MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THEIR CO. POLICIES.

# 12 HOME ADDRESS HOTTEST TOPIC: NEVER USE HOME ADDRESS THEN UPS KNOWS WHO LIVES THERE. THERE ARE TRACK RECORDS AND YOU MAY NEED TO MOVE. YOUR NAME WHEN WE CASH OUT NAME AND ADDRESS WILL BE SEEN BY MANY MANY TELLERS AND THEN TO IRS 5-10 PEOPLE WILL SEE YOU NAME AND BANK ACCOUNT HOME ADDRRSS, PHONE NUMBER SOC. SEC. IT IS LEGAL TO GET BOXES THAT YOU CAN USE AS HOME ADDRESS. MOST STATES ALLOW THAT. THEY ARE ABUNDANT.

#13: IF ANYBODY HAS RECEIVED PACKAGES OR BANK STATEMENTS THERE WILL BE TRACK RECORDS IN DATA BASE. WHEN YOU MAKE DEPOSIT MAKE SURE YOU TRANSFER SAME DAY OR WITHIN ONE WEEK. YOU DO NOT WANT A WIRE BACK IF YOU MOVE IMMEDIATELY

#14. MAKE MAIL TO P O, BOXES. USE PASSPORT FOR IDs; NOT DRIVERS LICENSE.

#15. USE PASSPORT ONLY. DRIVERS LICENSE MAY BE TIED TO SOCIAL SECURITY WITH THAT DATA CAN FIND OUT WHERE YOU LIVE. IF BANK ALREADY KNOWS ADDRESS HAVE THEM CHANGE IMMEDIATELY ONLY YOU CAN MAKE DECISION. DO NOT WANT ANYONE KNOWING HOME ADDRESS

#16: 2 COMPUTERS 1 FOR NON INTERNET BANK AND PRIVATE STUFF AND ONE FOR BANK, ID# , ACCTS, STORAGE FOR PERSONAL. 1 FOR EMAIL AND WEB STUFF AND ONE HIGHLY SECURED

#17. BULLDOG be careful with all your internet browsing AND SITES. TYVM.

be sure medical records are kept completely private home address and SS# are on those records...

#18: MEDICAL RECORDS KEEP COMPLETELY PRIVATE AND CHANGE ADDRESSES ETC ON OOM SITE THERE ARE MEANS AND WAYS TO PROTECT. WE WANT TO HELP YOU BE PROTECTED FROM THE WOLVES IN SHEEPS CLOTHING.



DV Member GoFast350Z:  11/18/11  Any of you who have read my previous few posts know how I came upon this investment. Kept my mouth shut so far but just received a phone call from my uncle stating that Wooten, head of the treasury under Bush called and said RV has been announced in Iraq and we should here about this by the weekend days rolling around. Let the soft words fly cause I guess I'm a guru now but I've got my armor on so no feelings hurt. Anyone else have anything to back up my rant?

You guys all rock like tube socks in a 70's porno!...I didn't hear anything about rates but I'm a little overwhelmed by the phone call myself. Staying grounded, gettin my bike ready to fly high at the track tomorrow and goin on about my business...but in case it is actually true, I get to thump my chest just a bit...haha. God bless every single one of you wonderful people! Hope all comes to fruition for us, we deserve it by now.

Uncle is a friend of the bush family. Has dinner with them regularly here in highland park north dallas. He's in IT for valvoline. He's just a simple farm hand, rodeod for a while, rode semi pro MX and just has been an honest hard worker like the rest of us...good guy just in the right place at the right time with the right people.

I don't know the back story about Tony but sounds like he beat you to that limb...actually sounds like he found the end of it and didn't quite touch the ground if you get what I mean...I hear a lot of bashing about that guy...none of which sounds good so I hope I don't fall into the same bucket come monday.

Not asked...was told about this. Matter of fact, if I'm not completely talkin out my butt here, I believe he said Wooten was at that dinner when it came up in conversation. I want to say there were only about 12 or so people there and...ummm...yeah, I think that's it. I want to stick to what I know to be factual and not shoot my mouth off.


I don't know whether to be offended or happy!...haha. Still haven't heard back from my uncle. I'm sure he'll call me this evening to chat so I'll be back as usual later this evening. Trust me, if I hear anything I'll be too damn giddy to stay away from here very long.
Blessings to all and GO RV!!!

I'm going to be calling my uncle again in the next hour so hold tight everybody and let's see what else is crackin in the wacky world of dinar BS today.


11/21/11  Well...not to be rude but that's the difference between you and I. I did call but got no answer, he's a busy guy and I refuse to blow someones phone up, especially on a weekend, common courtesy dictates you don't do those kind of things. He's family, not some jack wagon I found out had intel.
by Ssmith
on Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:33 am
 
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More KTFA Highlights and Excerpts w/ Frank26 for 10-5-16

More KTFA Highlights and Excerpts w/ Frank26 for 10-5-16

9:18:00 AM  KTFA, News, Thoughts  
KTFA

Circuitrider » October 5th, 2016



The IMF currency basket that sets the value of the Special Drawing Rights (SDR) is determined as follows:

"The 2015 Review—Currency weights

The IMF also adopted a new formula for determining currency weights in the SDR basket to address long-recognized issues with the formula that had been in place since 1978. The adopted formula assigns equal shares to the currency issuer’s exports and a composite financial indicator.

The financial indicator comprises, in equal shares, official reserves denominated in the member’s (or monetary union’s) currency that are held by other monetary authorities that are not issuers of the relevant currency, foreign exchange turnover in the currency, and the sum of outstanding international bank liabilities and international debt securities denominated in the currency.

The weights of the five currencies in the new SDR basket based on the new formula are listed below:

U.S. dollar 41.73 percent (compared with 41.9 percent at the 2010 Review)

Euro 30.93 percent (compared with 37.4 percent at the 2010 Review)

Chinese renminbi 10.92 percent

Japanese yen 8.33 percent (compared with 9.4 percent at the 2010 Review)

Pound sterling 8.09 percent (compared with 11.3 percent at the 2010 Review)

The amounts of each currency in the revised basket, effective on October 1, 2016, were calculated in accordance with the above-listed weights on September 30, 2016.

The calculation was made on the basis of the average exchange rates for these currencies over the three months ending on that date, in a manner that ensures that the value of the SDR in terms of the U.S. dollar will be the same on September 30, 2016 under the current and revised valuation baskets.

The new currency amounts will remain fixed over the next five-year SDR valuation period. Since currency amounts are fixed, the relative weight of currencies in the SDR basket can change during a valuation period, with weights rising (falling) for the currencies that appreciate (depreciate) relative to other currencies over time."
Taken from the IMF website. For your information

How are international exchange rates set? (for the newbie)

A: "International currency exchange rates display how much one unit of a currency can be exchanged for another currency. Currency exchange rates can be floating, in which case they change continually based on a multitude of factors, or they can be pegged (or fixed) to another currency, in which case they still float, but they move in tandem with the currency to which they are pegged.

Knowing the value of your home currency in relation to different foreign currencies helps investors to analyze investments priced in foreign dollars. For example, for a U.S. investor, knowing the dollar to euro exchange rate is valuable when selecting European investments. A declining U.S. dollar could increase the value of foreign investments, just as an increasing U.S. dollar value could hurt the value of your foreign investments.

Factors That Influence Exchange Rates

Floating rates are determined by the market forces of supply and demand. How much demand there is in relation to supply of a currency will determine that currency's value in relation to another currency. For example, if the demand for U.S. dollars by Europeans increases, the supply-demand relationship will cause an increase in price of the U.S. dollar in relation to the euro.

There are countless geopolitical and economic announcements that affect the exchange rates between two countries, but a few of the most popular include: interest rate decisions, unemployment rates, inflation reports, gross domestic product numbers and manufacturing information.

Some countries may decide to use a pegged exchange rate that is set and maintained artificially by the government. This rate will not fluctuate intraday, and may be reset on particular dates known as revaluation dates. Governments of emerging market countries often do this to create stability in the value of their currencies.

In order to keep the pegged foreign exchange rate stable, the government of the country must hold large reserves of the currency to which its currency is pegged in order to control changes in supply and demand." Taken from INVESTOPEDIA website. For your information...

Walkingstick » October 5th, 2016


BR/ FRANK.............SOURCE ?????

Deletion of zeros from the currency adds a monetary value

The Alojdrb (Bremer) , head of the Iraqi destruction authority when hecanceled the Iraqi currency of the former regime end of 2003 to find a coin which reduces the presence of zeros, the fact that the Iraqi economy , the traditional inflation phases exceeded until he reached the edge of collapse,

and this procedure is one of the means at hand to handle twice the value of the Iraqi dinar, according to the monetary and banking law,

we have to go back to the basic sources which constitutes a strong factor in restoring confidence to our national currency, which deleted three zeros from Almtadolh currency now put coins and paper dinar parts, including (5, 10, 25, 50, 100, 250 and 500 fils) .. which will achieve the following benefits:

1. Ease of circulation and clarity and knowledge of monetary value so easily to foreigners and Hmaaaml assistant on the purchase and deal with and trust the other hand it raises the monetary value against other currencies ..

2. Altfelicat paper perishable and damage, in contrast, the coin is not affected trade and the use and therefore can be manufactured again.

3 for sale . Reduces the cost of Tabaha.az be printed (25) dinars , which will replace the 25 thousand dinars Alnaamhalmtdoualh currency is currently theeasiest and quality will be high

4. Strengthen and improve the texture by adding elements of the global currency that is not affected by natural factors such as water, and bear scrubs and tear resistance and decay. .

5. Reduce the cost of storage in the banks, because we need to Qasat less and less effort and also the smaller the number of employees by the more control and insurance prohibitively high.

6. Easily transported over long distances and easily provide a high proportion of them safely.

7. . Strong cash currency contribute to strengthening the elements of thenational economy.

8. It provides speed and accuracy in trading in settling accounts.

9. gives theworkers , giving them greater self - confidence.

10. Is the risk of error in the calculation of its simplicity and clarity.

11. This will rebuild global confidence in the banks and increases traded.

12 for sale . Also it provides cash to expand its value against the US dollar, theeuro and the EU.

13. The printed specifications make them immune to fraud. There are a lot of countries that embarked on this procedure, including the Turkey even scrapped term ppm to be replaced by a thousand, and can set up amechanism to withdraw the old currency by subtracting the new currency with them and set a time limit to suspend trading Balkadimh record for aperiod of Omayorasth months, in light of that holds the government banks did not place them again in handle even the decay within the period specified ..

* Fahd Antar Dokhi member of the Iraqi economists Association LINK

Frank26 » October 5th, 2016


Roger ................... i will call DELTA tonight to see if he will read it in Arabic. Tell me if You seek more than that.

Frank26 » October 5th, 2016


WS .................. DELTA is with me on phone ............. do You want to join us?

Walkingstick » October 5th, 2016


Frank, I am among others

Delta » October 5th, 2016


WS......THANK YOU FOR THE ARTICLE ....I HAVE TALKED WITH FRANKIE. DELTA

Frank26 » October 5th, 2016


Roger ................ Will call You tomorrow.......... All looks very Good.

Alragrossman said (Post #31) Sounds exiting! bless you guys

Frank26
 » October 5th, 2016


Alragrossman, You posted at 1111................ Now that's exciting !!! What WS put out is what they WERE going to do ............. It is what they ARE doing...... IMO.

Vipor said (Post #33) Frank, you're killing us here... what's with the "go red"?

Frank26 » October 5th, 2016


Once in awhile a cluster of info lands in front of us. Right now .......... Things are interesting.

For example i did not SHARE tonight that the WHITELIST was scheduled to go into affect in first qt of 2017.

But it went three months ahead of plans. Why?

Take tonight's CC NOTES and combine them with this extra DESSERT ............. Then ............ Think.

Tonight's CC was Nitro ........... But it looks like my message was not as assimilated as i wanted to accomplish. No matter ............... Time will stand for us.


Walkingstick said (Post #13) BFBR.................. Statement at the End of an IMF Mission on Iraq

The Iraqi authorities and the staff of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) held discussions in Amman from August 28–September 10, 2016 on the first review of Iraq’s 36-month Stand-By Arrangement (SBA) approved by the IMF Executive Board on July 7, 2016. (See Press Release No. 16/321).

Mr. Christian Josz, Mission Chief for Iraq, issued the following statement:

“The Iraqi authorities and IMF staff started discussions on the first review of the SBA. These discussions will continue during the upcoming IMF and World Bank Annual Meetings from October 7–9, 2016 in Washington, DC.

“During the mission, the team met with the Minister of Finance Hoshyar Zebari, Acting Governor of the Central Bank of Iraq (CBI), Dr. Ali Allaq, the Financial Adviser to the Prime Minister Dr. Mudher Saleh, and officials from the ministries of finance, oil, planning, electricity, the CBI, and representatives from the Kurdistan Regional Government, Board of Supreme Audit, and pension commission. The team would like to thank the Iraqi authorities for their cooperation and the open and productive discussions.”

https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2016/09/12/PR16401-Iraq-Statement-at-the-End-of-an-IMF-Mission

Baker » October 5th, 2016


WALKINGSTICK THANK YOU FOR YOUR POST! THIS IS GREAT NEWS! BLESSINGS TO YOU BAKER!

Purifiers
 » October 5th, 2016


What Is A White Listed Country?

The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development’s (OECD) Global Forum on Transparency and Exchange of Information has developed standards of transparency and exchange of information together with the cooperation of non-OECD countries.

These standards are perceived as the international norm for tax cooperation and are part of the ongoing attack on uncooperative tax havens.

Tax Havens

The OECD identifies four key factors in considering whether a jurisdiction is a tax haven:

Nil or only nominal taxes are imposed to attract non-residents who wish to escape high taxes in their country of residence;

There are no substantial activities of the tax payer in that jurisdiction;

There is protection of personal financial information against scrutiny by foreign tax authorities; and

There is a lack of transparency in the operation of the legislative, legal or administrative provisions.

A jurisdiction is said to be a tax haven if some, but not necessarily all, of the above features are present. However, there is no specific or confirmed definition of a tax haven.

White, Grey and Black Lists


Based on the internationally agreed tax standard, the OECD has formulated “white”, “grey” and “black” lists.

White List – jurisdictions that have implemented the internationally agreed tax standard – i.e. not considered to be a tax haven by the OECD.

Grey List – jurisdictions that are committed to the internationally agreed tax standard but have not yet substantially implemented this standard – i.e. may meet some of the above mentioned tax haven criteria.

Black List – jurisdictions that have not committed to the internationally agreed tax standard – i.e. no steps have been taken by the jurisdiction to cooperate with the OECD to implement the standard.

The OECD published a report on 18 May 2012 on the progress made in relation to jurisdictions implementing the internationally agreed tax standard; the report lists all white, and grey listed jurisdictions. There were no black listed countries on this date.

Tax Inspectors Without Borders

In May 2012, the OECD indicated that the Task Force on Tax and Development had launched a new initiative, namely Tax Inspectors Without Borders / Inspecteurs des impôts sans frontiers, to help developing countries strengthen their domestic revenues by making their tax systems fairer and more effective.

The OECD have also indicated their intention to establish an independent foundation that will provide international auditing expertise and advice to help developing countries address tax base erosion, including tax evasion and avoidance.

http://www.pearse-trust.ie/blog/bid/91500/What-Is-A-White-Listed-Country

Frank26 » October 5th, 2016


Bravo PURIFIERS ........ NOW ....... IMPLEMENTED !!! I fear tonight's CC may go to waste.

Naphtali » October 5th, 2016


Frank.... I will speak straight forward my thoughts.

Many of the articles seem to be written PAST Tense to me. Therefore it appears to me that there is COMPLETION.

I am looking for evidence of when the revelation of the truth is to be given.

I have a time frame that I believe things will come to Light. I am excited; yet calm. The Event Horizon I believe you called it..... Makes Me Smile Kind Regards, Naphtali

Frank26 » October 5th, 2016


Naphtali, I believe You meant ......... The Truth of the Revaluation ......... LOL.

Of course they are in the past tense......... it is what we teach You. I too have a time frame ...... Framed on the 7th of July of this 2016.

IMO ............ We are in the Event Horizon spitting Out un-needed X-Ray energy in the form of Red Heat. It is The Point of Singularity that we NOW seek. And yes ........ I am Excited to eat Clams in Hawaii


Justinanddeb said (Post #36) FRANKIE, FRANKIE: VERY SOOM. fireworkes_gif WE GET IT...J&D

Frank26 » October 5th, 2016


Ahhhhhhhh ? ............. IMO ............ Yes. Corruption is about to become apoplectic in Iraq................ Good.

Naphtali » October 5th, 2016


What is the best definition of Singularity? The term Singularity has many definitions.

The everyday English definition of Singularity is a noun that designates the quality of being one of a kind, strange, unique, remarkable or unusual.

​For a more specific definition of Singularity we can search The Wiktionary where we get the following five Singularity definitions:

1. the state of being singular, distinct, peculiar, uncommon or unusual

2. a point where all parallel lines meet

3. a point where a measured variable reaches unmeasurable or infinite value

4. (mathematics) the value or range of values of a function for which a derivative does not exist

5. (physics) a point or region in spacetime in which gravitational forces cause matter to have an infinite density; associated with Black Holes

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What we are most interested in, however, is the definition of Singularity as a technological phenomenon -- i.e. the Technological Singularity. Here we can also find a variety of subtly different interpretations of the definition of Singularity.

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John von Neumann was quoted as saying that "the ever accelerating progress of technology ... gives the appearance of approaching some essential singularity in the history of the race beyond which human affairs, as we know them, could not continue." His definition of the Singularity was that the Singularity is the moment beyond which "technological progress will become incomprehensively rapid and complicated."

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http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com
by Purpleskyz
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Iraqi Dinar Scam

Iraqi Dinar Scam

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Squirrel Pot Pie
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undisclosed USA
#1 Jun 13, 2013
It has just come to my attention that the "Iraqi Dinar Scam" is now alive and well in Carlsbad. All of my direct family lives there, and my very elderly (but fortunately, very well physically and mentally) mother may be a prime target for this scam, even if by otherwise well-meaning people who have been suckered themselves.

I believe this is simply another Ponzi scheme, a pyramid, where (maybe, but not guarantees) a very few "may" see a little of their money returned in the beginning, but virtually all will be dealt a sleight of hand that may very well ruin many of them for the rest of their lives.

This kind of fraud abounds everywhere, at all times and in many different disguises, but they're always the same. But what really gets me this time around is that (even if conducted by one of those well-intentioned suckers I mentioned above) is that it is involving people who are attending church and marketing this bogus BS to vulnerable people to people from THEIR VERY OWN CHURCH. I don't care if they are assuring people that their money is 100% refundable (which would be a surprise of the greatest magnitude even if THAT was true). I care about the fact that whether a scam artist is knowingly bilking the vulnerable or it's just a case of the person marketing the scam being one of those well-intentioned suckers who has himself or herself acting for the betterment of those who might just be as (I hate to say this) stupid as themself.

Have any of you heard of this (it's apparently been around a long, long time), or otherwise been solicited to participate in this charade?

I would like to know, and mainly want to alert ALL of you to the probability you're looking to get bilked. There is a lot of truth to that old adage "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is".
I've attached only one link of many that tells you more about this.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jayadkisson/2012/...

Meanwhile for those of you who are interested, I am selling shares in a grasshopper ranch that, for a mere $100.00 per share, is guaranteed to bring you a return of 1200% in just the first three months, with even greater returns assured afterward (and my guarantee to you is that your investment is 110% refundable if not satisfied). For those of you interested, kindly PM me so we can discuss this in a private, confidential environment. There is a per person limit of 1000 shares.





Really
Carlsbad, NM
#2 Jun 24, 2013
It is not a scam or Ponzi scheme to invest in another country's money, as long as you understand that the returns vary & may not be as big as one would like, as well as the risks of loosing all together. That one is taking the same chances as one would on Wall Street. Any investment is never, I repeat NEVER, a sure thing, it really is the same as gambling. The scam however comes in when the investors are promised a sure fire large return within x amount of time, guaranteeing they will become over night millionaires! If at anytime someone tries to get you to invest without thoroughly explaining the risks, & only promising return, STAY AWAY FROM IT! In short is getting folks to invest in Iraqi Dinar illegal? NO! Is it being done in an ethical & legal manor? If done as u are describing NO! If you are misunderstanding how its being done then you will feel guilty for slandering the one doing the selling, if you are right then thanks for the warning! And lastly befor doing any investing check with a qualified investment expert, NEVER take friends,family,(remember they are the worst as you never see it coming from them or want to believe they would do you wrong) or do gooders word for it if you do your only begging to be robbed!






Squirrel Pot Pie
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#3 Jul 1, 2013
Really wrote:
It is not a scam or Ponzi scheme to invest in another country's money, as long as you understand that the returns vary & may not be as big as one would like, as well as the risks of loosing all together. That one is taking the same chances as one would on Wall Street. Any investment is never, I repeat NEVER, a sure thing, it really is the same as gambling. The scam however comes in when the investors are promised a sure fire large return within x amount of time, guaranteeing they will become over night millionaires! If at anytime someone tries to get you to invest without thoroughly explaining the risks, & only promising return, STAY AWAY FROM IT! In short is getting folks to invest in Iraqi Dinar illegal? NO! Is it being done in an ethical & legal manor? If done as u are describing NO! If you are misunderstanding how its being done then you will feel guilty for slandering the one doing the selling, if you are right then thanks for the warning! And lastly befor doing any investing check with a qualified investment expert, NEVER take friends,family,(remember they are the worst as you never see it coming from them or want to believe they would do you wrong) or do gooders word for it if you do your only begging to be robbed!

I was very polite in suggesting that the person in question may very well have been duped into believing so completely in what he was selling (although I didn't say I doubt it is true, which I do).
No slander at all.

This week is when the "payoff" is due. Let's sit back and watch the money flow back into the hands of the "investors" at the sums reputed to be.

I do agree with this from your post above:

NEVER take friends,family,(remember they are the worst as you never see it coming from them or want to believe they would do you wrong) or do gooders word for it if you do your only begging to be robbed!
Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/city/carlsbad-nm/T...

Somebody is about to be fleeced.





Question
Casa Grande, AZ
#4 Jul 1, 2013
Can you name the church please? CCF? maybe?
Judged:
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Really
Carlsbad, NM
#5 Jul 2, 2013
You mean rv? There can be no promise of any certainty of when a country's monetary system will rv. The advisors can look at what is going on and predict a possible date, but to make a promise of certainty, not possible. Especially with a country that is still in internal turmoil . I read the article you linked to. & it mentioned the investors relating the Iraqi dinar to Kuwaits dinar. The difference between the 2 was Kuwait was an invaded country that was more than willing to get back to peaceful times and rebuild its stability, so far Iragi shows no signs of even being willing to do so. This comparison is like milk & water. Milk has vitamins & calcium, water not so much. Ie if one is using this as a reason to believe in a substantial return, they may have to be prepared to wait a while.as with all investing patience is the key, you never sell of your shares while low you wait until they rebound! Common law of investing. Of course being wise enough to study your options and not jump at just anything is the main key. Never leap before looking you' ll end up regretting the out cone! Ie when investing use common sense not someone's word or that so called all knowing gut feeling!





bet my life
Tucumcari, NM
#6 Jul 2, 2013
My edlery parents are saying they bet there life that they are going to be millionairs..two weeks ago..they dont have alot of money but are waiting on pins and needles to cash in on their dinars!!They invested two years ago and still believe in it..They are sitting by there computer daily to watch for when they need to go cash in...they have their clothes packed and in the car and stopped doing much at all because they are waiting..anyday to be Rich!Now if they arent being scammed they sure are investing alot of their precious last years of their life waiting on this..It makes me angry that people pray on the elderly like this..yes im sure currency trading is legit..but these gurus are making them promises that has litterly put there lives on hold..It is sad and I cant seem to change there mind no matter what I tell them or show them warnings about this SCAM!!





NicolasKL
Lovelock, NV
#7 Jul 2, 2013
It's not a pyramid or ponzi scheme, but it's definitely a scam.

Buying the currency of a foreign country isn't a scam, but paying 20-50% plus premiums for it because someone (either a well meaning ignoramous, or an unscrupulous con man) told you a bunch of nonsense about it increasing in value by tens of thousands of percent most definitely IS a scam.

There's absolutely zero legitimate reasons the Iraqi currency would undergo a large increase in value. It's incredibly unlikely it'll even go up 50% over the next decade, let alone the 100,000% in the next week that most of these fools believe.

Iraq's currency is worth right about what it should be. There are two VERY simple ways to prove this:

1. Divide their foreign reserves (80 billion USD in value at most) by their money supply (M2, around 75 trillion dinar) and you get about 0.001. Right around what their currency is worth. That isn't a coincidence.

2. Take the TOTAL value of Iraqs currency (their 75 trillion M2 multiplied by the value of each dinar, 0.0086) and you come up with about 65 billion dollars. Now look at their GDP. It's around 120 billion dollars. That's about a .5 ratio of M2 to GDP. Now look at that same ratio for neighboring countries. They'll all be about the same, somewhere between .4 and .7 or so.

Iraqs country is worth right about what it should be. Sure, it could go up 10 or 15 or 20%. That will leave most people, that paid spreads of 20 or 30 or 50%+, high and dry. The chance of the dinar increasing in real value by even 100% in the short term is zero.





Money Maker
Carlsbad, NM
#8 Jul 3, 2013
I would give a week's pay to a hottie who tried to scam me.....in the nude!!!! Money well spent!






Squirrel Pot Pie
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#9 Jul 4, 2013
Question wrote:
Can you name the church please? CCF? maybe?

Out of respect for my family members and their opinions of the individual with whom they dealt, I am not at liberty to disclose the names of any parties.

I honestly don't know if this "investment opportunity" goes all the way to the top of the church in question, or how many church members have been approached or have "closed on a transaction". My family seems to have very long term ties to a particular party who has been transacting these exchanges, and appear to have an unshakable faith in him.

But I'm happy that, although slow, this thread has resulted in a few well-reasoned views - and helped expose something that everyone should think long and hard about before committing themselves should they find themselves approached with this "overnight millionaire" hustle.

It may prove very helpful to google "iraqi dinar guru" and such who are at least in part behind this/these scheme/s, and to google "iraqi dinar scams" and "Vietnamese dong scams".

There's some heartless people out there, folks!





curious
Fuquay Varina, NC
#10 Aug 21, 2013
a lot of people are going to be crushed by the hammer of liars and scammers...Don't invest more than you can afford to loose..I myself bought a few hundred dollars worth but everyday I wonder was I scammed by the dinargurus..If it happens all well and good if not so what I didn't rob the bank to get the money..lol





Youu
Lovington, NM
#11 Aug 22, 2013
curious wrote:
a lot of people are going to be crushed by the hammer of liars and scammers...Don't invest more than you can afford to loose..I myself bought a few hundred dollars worth but everyday I wonder was I scammed by the dinargurus..If it happens all well and good if not so what I didn't rob the bank to get the money..lol

Screw the dinar you need to invest in the Yuan.





Hussein Ali
Burton, TX
#13 Sep 4, 2013
I will not say it is or it is not, In 2008 was 1 USD exchange for 1260 ID / 2012 1 USD exchange for 116 ID in just four years,so it is not scame, and when they revaluate the ID they will not give just one month and any one can just take his IDs and go to the north of Iraq and exchange them ,The gold companies for sure they will not like invest in Iraqi dinar, no one gave good reason to not invest in Iraqi dinar, Iraq has the second oil reserve in the world sooner or later the Iraqi dinar gose back to 1ID exchange for 3.25 USD and don't tell me that it was because Saddam wanted that, because he was buying things like weapon for this exchange from the big economy contries like Russa and USA, it is slow but it gonna happen, ther is a lote reason they dont wanna people know about that like the gold people, rich people stay rich and other stay just money machine makers, if we compare why and why not we found the reasons for invest in Iraqi dinar really strong against why not who keep saying the Iraqi dinars dealers notregistered, Mean yes they are dealer and they go around stuff to make more money like cars dealers or big bank they do this in hidden ways, if somone ask why the big banks don't invest in ID it easy to find the answer.





Danny
San Jose, CA
#14 Sep 12, 2013
Exchange rate is 1166 dinar to 1 US dollar today 9/12/2013 it is a scam.
Hussein Ali wrote:
I will not say it is or it is not, In 2008 was 1 USD exchange for 1260 ID / 2012 1 USD exchange for 116 ID in just four years,so it is not scame, and when they revaluate the ID they will not give just one month and any one can just take his IDs and go to the north of Iraq and exchange them ,The gold companies for sure they will not like invest in Iraqi dinar, no one gave good reason to not invest in Iraqi dinar, Iraq has the second oil reserve in the world sooner or later the Iraqi dinar gose back to 1ID exchange for 3.25 USD and don't tell me that it was because Saddam wanted that, because he was buying things like weapon for this exchange from the big economy contries like Russa and USA, it is slow but it gonna happen, ther is a lote reason they dont wanna people know about that like the gold people, rich people stay rich and other stay just money machine makers, if we compare why and why not we found the reasons for invest in Iraqi dinar really strong against why not who keep saying the Iraqi dinars dealers notregistered, Mean yes they are dealer and they go around stuff to make more money like cars dealers or big bank they do this in hidden ways, if somone ask why the big banks don't invest in ID it easy to find the answer.







Danny
San Jose, CA
#15 Sep 12, 2013
It is a scam , exchange rate is 1166 Dinar to 1 US dollar according to the Central Bank of Iraq official website 9/12/2013






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http://www.topix.com/forum/city/carlsbad-nm/TV6H11LE93IP1EJT9
by RamblerNash
on Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:44 pm
 
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by nickgiammarino
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Intel highlights from The Big Call Thursday Night 5-19-16

Intel highlights from The Big Call Thursday Night 5-19-16

Transcribers Artneto, LocoFelipe:

Bruce call starting.

Bruce, Ken , Yosef and Sue.

Bruce; it is now thrusday may 19th... glad everyone is here. and want to thank everyone for their coming in and listening to us.

Bruce; everyone is staying very occupied, but continue to move forward.... opening with prayer

Bruce - teaching ending. Now moving to the Praise Report, then Prayer Request, then intel at the end

Bruce; intel now

Bruce - the Blessing is at our door. No rates or dates, but rates are higher than we thought
....


Bruce; we don't rates and dates but I can tell you this blessing is far greater than anyone thought

Bruce - Let's first start to speak about general information that was learned today

Bruce; talk in general terms about what we learned today and the Sue will have some points that we will talk on tonight

Bruce - Bank redemption centers are ready and well staffed, ready for this to happen anytime now

Bruce; we know announcements were made in Iraq yesterday..... we know that the lower denoms are out

Bruce - announcement was made in Iraq yesterday - lower denoms are out and being used - Key cards are being used internationally, even in the USA - Iraq has been freed and they are ready to go with new dinar and new rates

Bruce; what this tells us is that Iraq is off and running and that is great, but we know it is more than iraq. so now we are seeing the world being levelled out and all currencies being asset backed

Bruce - we will be gold backed

Bruce; that makes the value of everything going up as well as our confidence in these countries

Bruce - our currency will be called USN - not USD - (notes are gold backed, dollars are fiat)

Bruce; joseph- thank you, it is an honor.... at this last and final stage... we certainly hope so

Bruce, you did an awesome job laying it out there

Bruce/Yosef - This is our last and final phase of the RV

Bruce/Yosef - so much has happened since last call on tuesday.

Bruce/Yosef - we are in a GO situation from banking , diplomatic, military, security, political positions. If we are not there, we are awfully close

Bruce; hard intel, I think it is best to understand that we are a 'go' in a banking persective, the diplomatic perspective, the govermantal perspective, and they have all been checked off

Bruce; it is lovely to have Sue and her beautiful voice to be on this call

Bruce; Sue- disclaimer.... no rates, no pay outs, not lawyers, bankers, or actors who play them on tv

bruce/Yosef - we want to tell you everything, but it would take too long. We have a list … we will not do the bank's job of discussing rates and structured payouts

Bruce; WF is the lead bank.... but there are other banks that are a great part of this as well

Bruce/Yosef - There are other banks besides WF, Chase - RBC, Scotia, TD Banks

Bruce not only here but banks in Canada as well.... and our brothers and sisters in
Mexico

Bruce/Yosef - Bruce says, in spanish, that he loves Mexico

Bruce; thanking the bank to make this a relationship thing.... not a us verses them scenario

Bruce/Yosef - we are partnering with the banks, we are being blessed and we will be good stewards

bruce; all the people and governments, banks, all the organizations who are participating in this event

Bruce/Yosef - we are more than dinar, dong and zim. We are a community of dinarians.

Bruce; we are all working together even the currency community. it is good taht we have community, where we can reach out and say 'well done'

Bruce/Yosef - Sue to bring list ..
.
Bruce - 14 points - #1 - Per IT engineers working on Bric financial system. They are now comfortable with their control over CIPS mechanism

Bruce:  1- per IT engeneers they are now comfortable with the system, and ahve given the final release to go forward

Bruce/Yosef - this means all codes for every country in the world!!

josef-- all the people who have done all the work for this to happen... decades of work of strategy updates and programming

josef, these are the ones who are now happy with t he release..
..
Bruce #2 - over 20,000 service staff at 5,500 exchange centers - were still on duty as of Tuesday

2- over 20K office site have been deployed to sites to help out..... are still on site to help us transmission

Bruce - #3 - at 1:06am EST reset satellites, one for each hemisphere so that new system could be calibrated

3- 1:06 eastern on THursday two satilites were activated to coordinate the transactions

Bruce - The engineering portions are being worked out globally! This is historical and amazing

Bruce - that was 1:06 am on Thursday/today

4- some transactions will take 23 seconds to complete, and some will take 53 seconds..... the swift system would take up to 10 days to complete... and this system has now been unplugged

Bruce - #4 - Under the new CIPS system, some transactions may that 25 seconds to complete. But the SWIFT system, which took 10 days to complete a transaction, has been rendered non-functional

5- Thrusday mid morning.... the entire system was reset and all redemtion centers and banks have been reset

Bruce #5 - Thursday mid-morning (today) the entire banking system was re-set

Bruce #6 - Thursday afternoon WF sent memos to all redemption centers to be ready

7- partial glabla liquidity has already been realeased. in order to do final tests to the new financial system

Bruce #7 - Partial global liquidity has already been released including prosperity packages

Bruce/Yosef - this is like a soft opening of a business to ensure that everything works

Bruce #8- Cabal leadership are now being arrested, or sought out anywhere in the world for their crimes against humanity

Bruce/Yosef thanking special forces who are carrying out the arrests around the world

9- the globel rv has never been closer than it has been right now... as memos went out to tell all staff to be prepared.

Bruce #9 - global RV has never been closer than we are now. Memos have gone out to bank branches and redemption centers. We are just waiting for 800##

Bruce:  10- we know all necesary that alll military, and staff are ready and prepared to welcome over 30 million investor

Bruce #10 - military and security is staffed, trained and prepared to receive the currency redeemers. 30M redeemers around the world, not just USA

Bruce - we no longer have to worry about having a regular job. Our new job is learning to be a philanthropist

Bruce #11 - Prudent to look for RV after markets close Thursday evening and initiating by Monday

11- therefore it is prudent to look for the rv to roll out after markets are closed on Thursday evening and Monday morning

12- official hisorical bonds redemtion is scheduled to begin THursday 8p/m eastern

Bruce #12 - official historical bond redemptions scheduled for Friday morning China time, which is thursday evening in USA

13- be at peace because the rv is still happening and in real time. permanently and abundantly...

Bruce #13 - Be at Peace. This is permanent. Do not think that rug will be pulled out from under you after the RV

Bruce - Release bad habits, forgive people. this is an opportunity to be redeemed in Christ. This is a spiritual blessing. You have been released, so release other people and release bad habits. Go into bank asking God for guidance. God have been there when you had nothing. He will be there during and after RV

Bruce - be open to a whole-new-you to create the kind of life for yourself and for others, that you have always dreamed of

Bruce/Sue - God is the light in everything that you create

Bruce - We are jumping into a new life this weekend. Adopt new habits

14- all is well, and thank you to all intel providers. a whole list of people that I want to shout out to...
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Bruce #14 - All is Well. Thank you intel providers. There are so many! Christopher Watkins (the actor?? - his voice sounds familiar)

josef--- if you don't think we have lost it after so many calls, I am going to go to the corner to sell bananas.... we have gone bonkers

Yosef - if they don't RV this weekend, I will sell bananas on the street. I'm also selling my currency!! LOL!!

Bruce tried to impersonate Marlon Brando and now Inspector Clouseau

josef- someone needs to pray us out, we are getting ridiculous

Bruce/Yosef - help as many people as you can. Do your part

Bruce - hope to celebrate on Tuesday

Bruce - looking forward to a great weekend

Bruce - Pastor Steven closing prayer
by RamblerNash
on Thu May 19, 2016 11:46 pm
 
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Topic: Intel highlights from The Big Call Thursday Night 5-19-16
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Chat From Generals64. Dinar Guru's still carry on the tradition?

The Generals64 Group claims that they don't do "Rates & Dates", but here is a thread that says otherwise. Do you see all the hype that the other Guru's are still using today?

Posted 22 March 2012 - 09:02 PM


[size=16][generals64] ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:...Hang on to your seats as you're going to get it all right here and now...CAn you REally Handle it??????



[generals64] #1. Wells Fargo America as agreed to work with the Iraqi Dinar when it happens...confirmations from all over the United States....

[generals64] #2....$6.38 has been on the screens at Chase bank for 2 Weeks...I wouldn't and I couldn't tell you guys as i want to make sure of what it is...it's is called a "Marker" number....Was there this morning at *;00 my time (CST)...then went 1`- 1 per the Programmer we talk with. every dang day.

[generals64] #3. Lady LeeLee is the same one that put a voice commanded typo on one of our sources and didn't tell him and we hadn't verified it and she said oh, I'm sorry I just told my friends...I... amd...NOT her friend and I got a copy of it...I was livid and asked to be quiet

[generals64] #4....This morning...TODAY...we talked to dinar UK and the CBi (before they closed....if you want the ladies name let me know....you can't handle it folks...They said it ain't a happeneing for some time...Iraq has NOT released it yet.

[generals64] #5.....The rates of 23.10 to 3.68 are everywhere and No a single Swinging soul knows it...No one as it has to be calculated through the asset division for their currency value....Go figure

[generals64] #6. I told someone everything I had heard two days ago (In Confidence) his story was my family is leaving me blah blah blah...Yesterday Hammerman Printed everything word for word....

[generals64] #7...Today...same person...same scenario....Folks...I don't tell all I hear cause it would make your life crumble. Our sources are real and not a bunch of old men scratching themselves in places they shouldn't....I have busted my Ass to make this be right but I', beginning to feel like SteveI when he got tired of being bashed on his own site.

[generals64] #8....Leave Studley alone...he is trying with all his heart...he too makes mistakes ...I know no one else does...But, if you keep listening to their "Junk"...you're going to be Broke...One of the providers has 17,000 emails attached to his IP address...wonder why????

[generals64] #9...this is so dang stupid...following puppy dogs...these people come on,. they tell you a good story and bam they are the messiah and then another comes and then Bam...I do not have to have this to make a living as I have already made mine....I want it to happen just like you do but come on....

[generals64] #10...No Whales cashing out anywhere...NOTICE NONE anywhere....I have been invited to go and have yet to even see the people...Names don't need to be told as they and you know who they are....

[generals64] #11. If you want story book rhymes...go to the library and throw the dinar in the trash....If you want to know the truth then study it...Don't count on ANYONE to handle your investments period...Never in Life....

[generals64] #12. This site and its owner has been the most level during this whole thing....I had a bad thing happen to me when the shout room was here...I then got my cell phone hacked (along with kcmana) but caught that fool...he is one of the gurus yopu all follow...Remember this,....i have so many friends from years past in the three letter agencies that you couldn't begin to imagine...Those giving me a hard time need to be careful with what they post as from now on all bets are off...and it will all be told straight up in this room unless Cool Clown Fish kicks me off and bans me...

[generals64] #13....Hammerman's Father asked me to cut him some slack as he was afraid it was afeecting him personally...Hammerman told me one night he had told some lies but he felt it was his responsibility to keep the rooms level and calm...

[generals64] #14....Now...when is theis going to happen...I was told this morning at 10:00 am...it didn't...I was told at 2:00 pm....it didn't...I was told whales all over the country had been called by Wells Fargo...they weren't...what else do you want to knwop cause tonight I'll tell you all I know and it is not pretty folks....

[generals64] The banking deal we have been working on is with Wells Fargo...We talk EVERY DAY...they are ready and are willing to make us a deal that will scald your grandkids....they want the business...My girls waNT NOTHING AND IF I were treated the way they have been I would have told everyone to kiss my backside......If you treat your friends (you know who I'm talking to) this way then I don't need you and you (you know who you are) will be the last person in the world to cash your dinar out...Promise...I have held my integrity to the highest until tonight...but tonight folks...ask your questions

[generals64] I am Generals64 and I approve this message.

[generals64] If you guys will stop the board and don't pm me...I am calming down but, I'll answer them all...and, i am a big boy...but I am really upset...Guys/Gals...we need to financially help CCF with this site....one way or the other..

[generals64] Fireproof:...Look...I have held the closet I can to keep from telling the BS...Even Bookings will tell you guys that....The truth is not known by anyone...I mean NO one...

[generals64] MAVERICK :...yes it would...some can do more...some can't do any....If we could actually stop the board one question at a time I'll really explain it all

Q & A Session:
[Cheesehead] generals64 SO from what you posted... It ain't happening for a while... because you said that you heard Iraq has not released... So when do you think sir?
[generals64] Cheesehead Cheesehead Cheesehead :...the CBI told us yesterday they were upset with the us as they (USA) were making their country look bad...and that they had nothing to do with it...WE Called the CBI FOLKS for you....then this morning we called a lady with dinar UK (Lori) and she said it was completely in the hands of the UST...She then told us that as long as there were auctions they would not be RV'ing....However...Lori (same lady ) said yesteday that they were expecting this to happen any time now.................Truth I'll give you their phone numbers...The guy at the CBI was put on a three way call

[mammat] ok....It was posted that Studley had already negotiated with WF at cbi +2. What happened
[generals64] mammat;...Studley is a good guy...I have already growled at him as he is talking too much ...there are people who expect everything said to be true....Actually, we (studley) 10%...he then said a dollar but He told me he was working for the entire Bank Spread....for Everyone....Everyone is EVERYONE in and on every site...There was a rumor about him a couple of days ago and I got on him pretty hard and he came back pretty hard...The guy who had him invetigated called and apologized...people make mistakes...The rate we heard today/tonite...23.10 govt. gets $5.00 and the bank gets $2.00 and we get the rest...I also heard $14.38 was showing on Chase bank Screen...No One knows so don't listen to it....I trust Studley until he proves me wrong...Anyone with a Great Dane named "FIfi" is OK in my books.

[joyjoyjoyjoy] Hi and THANK you! Can you tell me how cash-in groups work? Does everyone physically come to the bank at the same time? If so, what security measures would/should be taken? Sure appreciate your caring spirit!
[CoolClownFish] You will not be going to the bank with anyone else. you simply tell them who you are your with this group and your name and you can cash in at the predetermiled rate with that package.
8:33 PM [CoolClownFish] answered that one for ya

[MAVERICK] this is for General , my question is if your that connected then why cant you give us a proximate rate and day , or what is really going on
8:35 PM [generals64] Real Hold up????...I was told it was our Treasury department...First...no Gag orders anywhere...the Ust people laugh everytime I say that....as a matter of fact that's their standing joke.....The guy at Chase told us that everyday at 1:59 the 6.38 rate on the IQD goes back to Zero....Today he told us he was unable to even get to the screens until 3:00 pm...EST...Kinda Strange....The people in CHINA we are talking with said this should have been done 4 weeks ago....I can't figure it out and they can't figure it out...There were some Virus's found up to about 2 weeks ago but they are fixed

[gr8teth] What is the % possibility of the rv going to our elections in Nov?
8:35 PM [generals64] Rumor and Rumor only...We could see this tomorrow...Maybe with me blowing up something will be done.
8:36 PM [generals64] gr8th:...no way

[ZMAN2011] any truth to the statement that the U S is being punidhed for the hold up by being forced to pour in moneo from threasury to reach rate levels? ty
[generals64] ZMAN2011 :...I heard that but just before I found out I had been betrayed and I haven't check it out

[eleanor] generals64 I think the timing is more important to us all than the rate could you elaborate on your statement of it not happening for a while?
[generals64] Precious (elanor)....the entire thing should have happened this country seems to need the money...However, I was really told the whole thing was outta IRAQs hand...and in the hands of the IMF...The IMF has signed off and released it is what i was told...and folks this person is too wel connected...and he might see this so I can't say.

(bookings) generals can you confirm what I hjeard that the rv is happening tonight and the rate is $22.00

8:40 PM [generals64] bookings...i have heard the $22.00 and the 23.10 and the $6.38 and the 14.38 and teh $1236 rate for days...I told you that....But I don't know about it happeneing tomorrow..I sure hope so...YOU bookings know I talk with a Wealth mangement person with Wells Fargo almost everyday....and she is not seeing anything...Folks,...she is sharp as a tack

[beachdreaming] i would like to know if Geitner or Obama is truly holding it back.. who can force them to get it done?
[generals64] beachdreaming...I really think it is Roscoe cause he only got 7 milkbones to 1...No, I don't think it is O or Giethner....this is more than that.

[generals64] I'm not sure about the intent that has come forward and said We (I) are fluffing our feathers etc....just for the klnowledge in this room a...and i am going to be flogged by kcmand and 4th time...But, We have over 3 Tillion dinar to work with...do you think we carry a big enough stick...that is with a T folks...not aB orM


[eleanor] How can we help you, phone calls, moniterr sites, emails, whatever?
[generals64] dlenor...the people we deal with used to trust the other GURUS and other site leaders...they hav ebeen burned so bad they won't talk with anyone...this room has had a bad name of Bashers jumping on people andalso everything said comes in here and people think its true...Think about it...do you really believe some other GURU has a 747 on the Tarmac Idling?

[Javabean] If the rate is 22 and the gov gets 5 and banks get 2, then will we still have to pay taxes or will the gov's % be enough for them??

[generals64] javabean...i have heard so many reports on taxes...it cost $2,500.00 to gt a written ruling from the IRS on this...My personal Tax attorney is $850.00 an hour (he's good) and I don't want to spend the money yet

[LINDI] Is it possible that the Bush family is holding this back?
[generals64] no on the Bushes holding it back...

[Lojack6T] Isnt it possible its just being held up for maximum impact to benefit Iraq during the arab summit and the rest is just a conspiracy theory?
[generals64] Lojack6T;...I think we could see it quickly...I will never give a date or rate...but today so much Smoke was pumped out and everyone fell for it...EVEN I did...

[texanone67] question...does this mean no toaster?
[generals64] I am going to have more toasters tahn Wal-Mart

[Shabibi] How much of all this might just be a bunch of BS and smoke? Not really sure what started this rant and speaking of the truth but I like it!
[generals64] Shabiibi;..ther is NO BS in what I tell you or anyone else...You ahve come at me hard more than once and that is why I don't answer your foolish and mundane questions...By the way Thursday is my favorite day...Why because I met my wife on a Thursdy.Now Dude,...What have you got?...if nothing then sit back and joiin the team or leave the site...
[generals64] Shabibi :..i'm sorry..I am so upset over what has happened and what is being said to the people of this ivestment and please accept myy apology...i was out of line

[righteouswrath] Generals 64... Tex said that you were going to wear a speedo and Roscoe was wearing sunglasses to the barbeque... is that true?
[generals64] Precious :...if that will bring the RV fastr I'll do it..it ain't going to be pretty

[joyjoyjoyjoy] General Thank you for your caring spirit!! Wish you'd tell who betrayed you so we can get 'em for ya! Honestly I would like to know so I don't take stock in what they're saying if posted. Thx for all you share!! You're one of the good guys in my book.
[generals64] My phones are blowing up....I have taken my Blood pressure medicvine and Roscoe is sleeping right now....You guys ask who betrayed you....They know who they are as they are in the room right now....Aren't you dude/

[generals64] I was to have gone to Dallas and cash out cause I too am an Oklahoma SOONERFAN...but he today won't return my calls....Did you know Blaino and Hammerman were banned from other sites?...did you know Blaino Bragged about hacking Okies name...Did you know he laughed about hacking Foghorn's name...hmmm...I have a short call give me a second...hopefully it will answer some stuff...hold on

[generals64] and hey guys/Gals lojack6T is NOT lojak...He is a friend of the family.

[Shabibi] So of all the other "gurus" who share info who would you trust most and who the least to give us a bearing on how to look at their info
[generals64] shabibi:...I owe you this one....Gurus?hmmmm Hmmmm BWM/Tex/Cap1....Studley..Wileymorgan...(really)....Freeway Bill...and SteveI
[generals64] Shabibi:...Dan and Tony seem to be trying real hard now...i don't believe in conspiiracy theorys from anyone and hard to reacll is a good...good friend of mine...

[whitfi10] Was there a call earlier? Generals64 do you host calls? Just wondering if calls really accomish anything?
[generals64] whitfi10 :...calls don't do anything but add fodder to the fire...No one has been 100% right yet....

[generals64] Folks....the Thing that bothers me a lot is the is no one or any law that requires my two gitrls to do anything for anyone...


[generals64] real good call...
[generals64] Precious ;...could be even beter
[generals64] arabic is bad for me
[generals64] still on

[generals64] OK...Wiley morgan has some dude from Iraq who is so dang excited aboaut something neither one of us can understand him...He is trying to get a translator and will let me know if he does....Wiley did two or three tours over there remember that....

[generals64] Guys/Gals;;;;;Please fogive my antics...Drama is not much of my life and I apologize only to this room as this seems to be family...Some one just told me something I had told him and it hit me right between the eyes...."We can save em all and we can help only those that will let us..."...I hope you are one of them as my heart goes to all of you even the Jerk that used me....But, i want to apologize for my actions as they were uncalled for but, from now on you guys get it all up front...

[generals64] I thought I had more class and integrity than I showed tonight....

[FIREPROOF] generals64 we thank you... but be prepared for the rats to take it to recaps.... it will eventually end up there.
[generals64] FIREPROOF :..it will cause so much dissention...they can find me...I know where they are.

[generals64] the bank deal we have is a good one...Good enough johnny asked if he could be on it....HmmmmmmmOur bankers talk to us anytime we need tpo..

[Austin-Powers-For-PM] generals64 So if I understand you correctly, your CBI contact is saying to forget about an RV anytime soon. Correct?
[generals64] Austin-Powers-For-PM :...I don't have a contact at the CBI...We called them on the phone and one day it was ready the next day..no no...so who knows????

[generals64] if you guys get a chance...and he'll talk....live4the brand knows a lot also

[generals64] you guys...Betrayal and just from not verifying it cost me my sanity for a few minutes...maybe hours...i need a beer.

[Shabibi] generals64 Sanity is over rated..beer is rated MUCH higher!
[generals64] Shabibi :...yep...

[Mauiboy] generals64: Only one??? LOL!!!
[generals64] Mauiboy :I don't drink

[eleanor] generals64 btw what brand of beer do you drink?
[generals64] eleanor :...that is Kidney stone medicine but it is Bud Light

[generals64] If you can stop the site I'll explain what we have been doing on the banking situation...it's really very simple

[generals64] the banks want all your money...All...they really just want you and i to get a reasonable amount and they get the rest...Studley adn 4th time are working with Wells Fargo...Wells Fargo wants the numbers we have so, they seemed to desire to give us all they legally can...so what the names and such was for was to give the bank so they could logistically put things together and service us the best way possible...for instance No WF in Oklahoma....I was offered a free airplane ticket to a de larue machine...No, I'll go to Texas>...Studley and his business partner are and have been working on this for some time...they are financial people...me, I'm a dime Store Manager.....

[generals64] What should happen is (hypothetical only )...say it happened tonight...if you went to the bank right now you would get the tellers rate and a thank you very much....But, We have this so close to being finished...girls are real good and so is 4th time and OKCBulldog and .live 4the brand....that we can push our button and send them names etc.,,,they can in turn issue a code that you as a MIG Dinar Holder can go to the Private Wealth person and tell them what you waNT And who you are...they will recognize the code number and your name...If you give the code to your cousin Billy Bob and he is not on the list he will be sent over to the teller and get the teller rate....Now, the beter rate is within their Private banker division...there is a certain dollar (USD) value that you must deposit...probably everyone in here is qualified...Even Roscoe is....then they do the paperwork which you probably haven't done and send you to the teller with your code and an appointment to discuss your wealth management...

[generals64] Make the appointment folks and go to it....if you think you are smarter than these people in finances your probably wrong....they are licesenced adn avialbe...there are programs taht you can get involved with like the rich boys are and let your money work for you...so that you don't have to work for money...does that make sense???and, it's that simple...but, without your name and the code number you'll not get the extra...nothing big and EVERYONE should be treated the same..don't you think????and, me and my group of kids are not making anything on it period...but i sure would like a new toaster....ask the other sites to tell you what they have in store...Oh yeah the other banks will follow suit...they want your money ...study Fractional Banking and you'll see.

[generals64] Fractional banking...????? Google it...get a case of beer and start reading..you'll still not understand it but you'll have fun trying...

[wisegrysqrl1] generals64 when you say our name do you mean our screen name or our real name?
[generals64] wisegrysqrl1 ;...they won't take your screen name on a deposit slip...Promise you that...

[joyjoyjoyjoy] generals64 Are you saying we'll get the same rates Studley is working on? Are bank packages the same thing as group cash-ins? Still unclear on that. thx!
[generals64] joyjoyjoyjoy :...Studley is doing the stuff for us....I talk with him e

[king] Generals64 do u believe a14. Rate could exist IYO ?????????????????????
[generals64] king yes

[Florida] Shabibi Yup. But I thought fractional banking was going away with the new Basel III... anybody know?
[generals64] Florida Fracational Banking is a way of life....the banks are able to sell their deposits nightly with it...your money never stops being used...24 hours a day and 365 days a year

[generals64] I promise not to blow up like that agin folks...not my style....even embrssed to myself right now...When you get over 150 calls aday and about 35 of them daily are smart aleck pranks...your tension is developed

[wisegrysqrl1] generals64 were you saying no Rv anytime soon earlier?
[generals64] wisegrysqrl1 :...ask me that tomorrow night
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[size=16][generals64] If you guys will do what I made texanone67 do you'll be a little less stressed.....take the dustiest book in your house (The Bible to some of you) and read and live John 19:20....you'll thank me many times as she has....Promise from the bottom and depth of my heart....I had a guy tell me to listen and find the darkest part of your heart and liten to what God says at that point.....I did, and I have....this same guy was a convicted Morderer and doing life....and from nowhere paroled...He died of cance a while bak...miss him a lot...[/size]
by RamblerNash
on Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:38 pm
 
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Topic: Chat From Generals64. Dinar Guru's still carry on the tradition?
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39 Signs the Global Elite’s Ship is Sinking

39 Signs the Global Elite’s Ship is Sinking

Make no mistake about it. The tide has turned on the global elite and there will be no going back. A new day is rising for humanity as those who have planned for complete control are now being exposed, cornered and investigated from many different angles. There is no need to buy into the fear-based propaganda the major media and even several alternative media outlets dispense. Very good things are happening and even better things are coming.
Let’s take a look at some of the major stories that have occurred in the last few months. Piecing the puzzle together, we see that the jig is up and the events surrounding it are growing in size and speed.



Topics tagged under 13 on Dinar Daily 39-Signs-the-Global-Elite%E2%80%99s-Ship-is-Sinking-Lance-Schuttler-330x202
3rd October 2015
By Lance Schuttler
Guest Writer for Wake Up World


39 Signs the Global Elite’s Ship is Sinking






#1: 57 Nations approved as founding members of the China-led Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank. Notable countries who signed on June 29th, 2015 include Russia, India, Iran, Switzerland, Germany, France, Saudi Arabia, Australia, Indonesia, the UK, Italy and Austria. Notables who did not join are the U.S. and Japan.

#2:
May 12th, 2015: Russia asks Greece to join the BRICS Alliance. Notice the BRICS trend in the stories to follow.

#3:
May 24th, 2015: The Pentagon released documents to Judicial Watch, a government watchdog law firm, proving that the US Government played a central role in creating ISIS. Interestingly, the mainstream media failed to cover this story. A few weeks later, ex US Intelligence officials confirm the report.

#4:
May 31st, 2015: Greece’s Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras writes an open letter, warns European leaders they are “making a grave mistake,” and suggests they re-read Hemingways’ “For Whom The Bell Tolls”.

#5:
June 2nd, 2015: The U.S. Federal Government was hacked as the personal data of 4 million current, former and prospective employees believed to have been breached. 3 weeks later FBI Director James Comey told US Senators the actual number could be 18 million. Some believe the hack was coordinated to gather further evidence of crimes by certain government officials. More on that further down.

#6:
June 2nd, 2015: Kentucky Senator Rand Paul calls for the U.S. Government to declassify 28 pages in the 9/11 attack report that the Bush Administration blacked out.

#7:
June 3rd, 2015: Famous musician Akon announces his Solar Academy will bring solar power to over 600 million people in Africa. A major victory for clean energy and humanity.

#8:
June 4th, 2015: Whistle-blower Edward Snowden says a “profound difference” had occurred since releasing the NSA documents and that the balance of power has shifted in our world. Is he referring to the BRICS Alliance?

#9:
June 5th, 2015: “There Will Be A Reset of The Financial Industry.” The International Monetary Fund says the Chinese Yuan is no longer undervalued. This sets the stage for the Yuan to be recognized as a global reserve currency, something the U.S. Dollar (which is backed by war and oil) does not like.

#10:
June 7, 2015: Deutsche Bank, one of the world’s largest banks, Co-CEO’s Jain and Fitschen resign. Two days later, German prosecutors raided the Bank’s headquarters in a criminal tax-fraud probe.

#11:
June 15, 2015: China says the G-7 Summit in Germany was a “gathering of debtors.” They mean this literally as the Bretton Woods western financial system is based on debt. And in fact, the entire western financial system has been running illegally and is technically bankrupt. For more on the real history of Bretton Woods and its connection to JFK, The Global Collateral Accounts and the gold standard, read here.

#12:
June 17th, 2015 is quite the day with the next four stories all being reported at that time. First, JP Morgan’s number 2, the Vice Chairman Jimmy Lee, suddenly and unexpectedly passes over. Since late 2013, the list of high-level banking officials to have passed over has grown to 70. Clearly, something is happening.

#13:
June 17, 2015: Russia and China announced that all natural gas and crude oil sales between the two countries will now be done in Chinese Yuan (formerly the U.S. Dollar) and will be convertible into Russian Rubles. The U.S. Dollar hegemony is waning.

#14:
June 17, 2015: The State of Texas has signed a bill that calls for the repatriation of their gold from the Federal Government. When asked what would happen if the government tried to steal back the gold, State Representative Giovanni Capriglione said this: There is a motto in the office of almost every state legislator in Texas, and it’s a flag that we have [from the Texas Revolution], it’s below a cannon and what the motto says is, “Come and Take it.”

#15:
June 17, 2015: Greece’s Hellenic Parliament’s Debt Truth Committee released a report stating that the debt Greece “owes” is illegal, illegitimate and odious, according to international law. Further, they stated the IMF and ECB (European Central Bank) having illegally and knowingly imposed these illegitimate debts upon Greece and other nations. A direct call out to the global banking cartel.

#16:
June 18th, 2015: Baron David de Rothschild has been indicted by a French court over financial fraud. French police have been ordered by the court to track down Baron. The Rothschild family has long been viewed as the family sitting atop the global financial ponzi scheme. Lawyer Antonio Flores told reporters, “it’s a real breakthrough moment for everyone involved.”

#17:
June 18, 2015: In a 2-1 ruling, the 2nd Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals says Bush era officials can be held liable for detaining innocent people after the 9/11 attack. Will this lead to some major arrests?

#18:
June 19, 2015: While European leaders try to save face on the debt crisis, Greek PM Alexis Tsipras was in Russia and gave a speech at the St. Petersburg Economic Forum, stating that “the economic center of the planet has already shifted” and that new powers are playing an “important role on an economic and geopolitical level.” Now re-read story header number 8… BRICS, anyone? Oh, and Greece and Russia signed a €2 billion gas pipeline deal that day too, a strategic economic and geopolitical game-changer.

#19:
July 5th, 2015: Greece votes “NO” to the creditors’ bailout offer. This is a massive stance for humanity that Greece just took against the banking elite. As of this writing, a “deal” has been reached but is expected to fall apart in the coming days. Kicking the can down the road does not solve the issue, but rather speeds up the revolution mindset of many frustrated Greek citizens. October is when many financial experts are saying that some fireworks are to be expected.

#21:
July 8th, 2015: On this day, several strange events occurred. The NYSE was taken down for multiple hours, the Wall Street Journal was taken offline just after the stock exchange went down, United Airlines was forced to ground all of its flights nationwide due to computer “issues,” and 2,500 people losing power in Washington D.C. This whistle-blower journalist just wrote that his Pentagon sources said the Pentagon/BRICS Alliance took it down as a “dry run.”

Topics tagged under 13 on Dinar Daily 39-Signs-the-Global-Elite%E2%80%99s-Ship-is-Sinking-3


#22:
July 7th, 2015: Backing up one day we see that the hacking group Anonymous tweeted this on the evening prior to the stock exchange hack: Wonder if tomorrow is going to be bad for Wall Street… we can only hope. David Wilcock has previously written a detailed document stating that Anonymous is working with certain patriotic US Military forces to legally take down the banking elite. This aligns nicely with what the whistle-blower journalist, Benjamin Fulford, just wrote this week about the Pentagon and BRICS Alliance in the previous story.

#23:
July 14th, 2015: Iran, China, Russia, France, Germany, the U.K. and the U.S. reach a historic deal on Iran’s nuclear program. Entire books could be written on the geopolitical, financial and technological implications of this move. There are also reports that the reality of this situation is that Iran has free energy technology and will be using this to help bring down the banking/political/oil industry elite. This would make sense as the strongest opponents to this deal have been Israel and its Prime Minister and several American politicians like the Bushes, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz.

#24:
July 15th, 2015: Santa Cruz County votes to stop doing business with 5 major banks, including JP Morgan Chase, Barclays, Citigroup, Royal Bank of Scotland and UBS. Watch this set off a chain reaction in those who will follow suit.

#25:
August 11th, 2015: China (a very influential BRICS member) shocks the markets and the Wall Street banking cartel by devaluing the Yuan by 2%.

#26:
August 12th, 2015: China throws a second punch and devalues the Yuan by another 1.6 %. Two explosions, which are being labeled as nuclear by some, went off in Tianjin, China just 1 day after the bold currency move. As of this writing, 4 explosions have taken place and are suspected as retaliation against the Chinese by the Wall Street banking cartel.

#27:
August 13th, 2015: China devalues the Yuan for the 3rd consecutive day, down a total of 4.65%. As one financial expert wrote, this was “the haymaker.” In layman’s terms, China erased almost 5 years worth of “controlled appreciations” in 3 days. Thus, China (and the BRICS Alliance) just told Wall Street and Washington D.C./London, “we are in full control here and you will play ball by the rules.”

#28:
August 14th, 2015: China once again shocked the world by announcing an updated total of the gold reserves, just 29 days after their last update. In the past, they have updated their reserve total only every 5 or 6 years. Clearly, a transition to the gold standard is at hand. This is the last thing the fiat-based U.S. Dollar and central banking cabal wants and can afford.

#29:
August 24th, 2015: David Wilcock releases a new update stating that his inside sources are telling him the geopolitical situation playing out between the banking cabal and the BRICS alliance is reaching a crescendo.

#30:
August 28th, 2015: North Korea and South Korea agree to hold peace talks as North Korea’s Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un said the agreement is a “landmark occasion” in the road to “reconciliation” and “trust.” Is the banking cabal’s influence over South Korea being dismantled? Its well known they have long controlled South Korea and have infiltrated their governance as a means to keep the two Koreas divided. Secondly, the more that unity and peace spreads, the quicker the cabal falls…and they know this.

#31:
August 31st, 2015: In an article that I highly recommend, the author perfectly describes what China, Russia and the BRICS alliance are doing to the U.S. Dollar and thus to the banking cabal by China dumping billions of Dollars worth of U.S. Treasuries. I’ll leave you with this quote from the article: “China, Russia and much of the international community is signaling that they’re prepared and strapped in… they’re in the cockpit, and have punched their ‘hyper-drive.’ De-dollarization will quicken to warp speed. Eurasia is ready for this rocket ride to begin… and to benefit, on their balance sheets, from the gold (and silver) revaluations shortly to take place.”

#32:
September 1st, 2015: Vladamir Putin drafts a bill aimed at eliminating, yes eliminating, the U.S. Dollar and Euro from trade between CIS countries, which includes Russia, Belarus, Armenia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and other countries of the former Soviet Union.

#33:
September 3rd, 2015: Guatemala erupts in protests calling for the resignation of their President. He does resign and is jailed in connection to a corruption scandal.

#34:
September 3rd, 2015: 34 Senators have committed to support the Iran nuclear deal, which again, is a huge blow to the cabal’s plans. In addition, Saudi Arabia’s King Salman visited Washington over the weekend and has given support to the deal as well. Saudi Arabia, who was once a strong ally to the Bush/Clinton/Israeli syndicate, has essentially turned its back on them.

#35:
September 3rd, 2015: The Japan Bank for International Cooperation announced that it is in the process of turning to currency swaps in rubles (and NOT U.S. Dollars) with several large Russian banks. Remember that Japan was of the two (the U.S. was the other) notable nations that did not join the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank in late June. It seems as though major regime changes are taking place behind closed doors in Japan. Stay tuned.

#37:
September 6th, 2015: Over 105,000 people, including union leaders and Labour Members of Parliament, have signed the petition to arrest Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu for war crimes. Since the petition has reached over 100,000 signatures, the British Parliament must officially consider a debate on the situation.

#38:
September 6th, 2015: Neil Keenan released a new update regarding the global collateral accounts and the stage of the game he and his team are at in legally bringing down multiple very large banks and bankers. For those that don’t know, the global collateral accounts are the single largest financial cover-up in the world to date and have been illegally used and abused by many different banking institutions, governments and corporations. These accounts have strong ties to the assassination of JFK and to 9/11. I cannot over-emphasize the importance of learning about the global collateral accounts and passing that information on to others. Neil has said that it is expected to be around and possibly before January 2016 that very large fireworks (a positive for humanity) take place involving, all the big banks and several governments and corporations. The wait is coming to an end.

#39:
Now: You are here on the planet at this time to make a wonderful contribution. Please continue playing your role for the benefit of us all.

The Final Word

It is clear that something big is happening. Use this information to move forward with optimism and hope. Share with your friends. Discuss with your friends. Continue to search and dig for the truth. Two people I strongly suggest the reader looking into are Benjamin Fulford, the whistleblower who was the Asia Pacific Bureau Chief for Forbes Magazine and is listed in stories number 21 and 22, and Neil Keenan, who is working with many well-connected sources to open up the global collateral accounts. These accounts are what President Kennedy was reportedly assassinated over and are what the banking elite does not want the public to know exists.
This revolution WILL NOT be televised.


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by RamblerNash
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