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TNT SHOWTIME CC (Bullet pts by AZhombre) 7/8/19

·         TNT RayRen: “It’s a new week, expecting new data…new realities.

·         Tony’s Friday Highlights: …As of Wed, the major banks planned on doing what I’m about to give you.  Rates for Dinar supposed to start out at $3.65, $4.47, $6.00, $8.00.  Contract rate of $28.50.  Dong: everybody can get 47 cents, 57 cents, 87 cents, $2.27 and contract rate of $6.00.  Zim: 11 cents, 22 cents, contract rate of 35 cents!  Rupiah, $1.05, $1.08. $1.25.  Saying all the contract rates given out if you have humanitarian projects, even in US, give you the contract rates.  Could change.  We agreed a certain amount of people to get contract rate.  2 wks. ago was told all you had to do was ask for it.  Now being told all you have to do is have a humanitarian project!  Giving rates based on amount of currency.  People with least amount of currencies get highest rates!  All info from one bank from different people at different locations….Have a plan for what I shared with you.

·         Good afternoon TNT!  Left my notes in the other room….You guys want good or bad news.  I’ll start with the bad news.  Didn’t happen today.  Not expecting it today.  Good news is it’s going to happen, just don’t when.  And now we’ll get to the details.  Bankers were on Sat and Sun.  Divided themselves up today, some to exchange centers and some to their banks.  Bankers are the most frustrated, missed their 4th of July and weekend.  Some got info, memos, etc., telling them they’re at the end.  Actually, funding all banks globally to their max, another reason could have been issues with the Zim, trying to work out issues to see if it’s included with this batch.  Before they got off the call said they would do RV without the Zim if necessary and not hold up RV.  Updated codes every Monday and updated the monthly code also.  Got word it was already done.  Don’t know if that’s whey they sent their people home.  Still saying it could go at any minute.  Basically, waiting for Zim situation.  Banks saying, doing Zim, committee guy say’s not. 2nd basket info: 7 currencies, will have list, no details.  Closer than we thought, won’t be 4 months from now.   Ray/Rial?  T/bank says it’s going to revalue, Committee guy also, Treasury guy, etc. says it will.  Supposedly revalue it and then hold it up in their face and say, so what, you can’t use it anyway. Treasury made it so clear this was an economic war and going to beat them down and starve them out!  T/banks believe it’s this week once issues resolved.  Going to higher rates prior to Forex.  Then will go down.  It’s been going up everyday and higher than expected.  Go down, then back up.  We’re talking to bankers who are high up in the bank and tell you what they said.  Not the first time.  Watch the bankers, they are NOT your friends.  Their job is to see how much they can get from you.  That’s their job!  They have been authorized to offer up to 10% interest on your money.  

·         Q & A: 7/08/2019:

·         AceGrove: Did you say only tier one banks would offer the contract rate?  If we don’t live in a metropolitan area how do, we find a tier one bank and get an appt?  Ans: Nope, I didn’t say that.  Not just tier 1 banks.

·         Brokerman: With the anticipation this past week, have any of your intel sources shared a valid reason why the RV didn’t take place as they expected, other than “it was supposed to happen last week”?  Ans:

·         Vinterv: Would you give us advise on this scenario?  We call the 800#, they tell us to go to Bank A according to our zip code.  Can we ask for a specific bank?  We go to appt and are offered the lowest rate.  Do we say, “thank you we’ll consider this”, or do we say exchange some currency and move on?  How do we get an appt for Bank B?  Do we once again call the 800#?  How do we shop around?  Ans: T/I can’t give out advise to anybody.  That’s one thing they are trying you to get caught up in.  I can share with you what I’m doing.  When you call the 800# and give you the info they are giving you the best source to handle your money, what you have.  Unless you have someone at a certain bank that knows exactly what you have, I’d go to where they send you giving you the best possibility.  R/reason if depends.  I wouldn’t exchange any of it if it’s not the rate you want.  T/If a tow truck’s driving around the block looking for your car, signs posted on your front door, etc, I might exchange some.  Depends on how bad you need it.  Listen carefully.  Gave you a bunch of rates.  Said will give $ out at those rates.  Guy at bottom doesn’t know about the breakdown of rates, until the morning it goes live.  Once it goes on Forex, have to go with Forex bottom rate.  Most say they are going to go away.  After that it’s going to be strictly with the bank. You have to assume that on your own.  Take the chance or go in and get the highest rate right now.  We don’t know all the rules about the 800#.  Time frame may hurt.  It’s your money, nobody can make you do anything.  It’s always going to be your option.

·         dwhunt: Are the people who promised us the contract rate a few weeks ago the same people who are running this now?  Ans:

·         B-blessed: Were you able to complete the book/books of the letters we submitted during the “we are the people” campaign?  Will we be able to purchase any of them?   Ans: T/I have 3 books, about 3-4 inches each with the letters you sent.  Put these books together.  Have everything downloaded.  Going to present the books to Pres Bush and Obama.  Going to put leather bound covers on them to be put in their library.  Suppose to build a museum.  Restricting some of the things we were allowed to do.  Things could change, could be on Sunday news, etc.  One newspaper that did article on Tony in England will show them!  Never thought about selling a set to anybody.  Made a couple of copies.  If you guys would like them, think about re-doing it for more.  Letters from Senators, etc, know what they said.

·         7mmstw:  Weeks ago, the in-country rate was reported at 80 cents to $1.  The lower denoms are also reportedly being dispensed in ATM’s.  Are these prices the norm or just a few isolated cases?  Hard to understand how this is working.  Ans:

·         Seaurchin: Are the different rates to allow the bank to skim money off the top from people exchanging and get the higher rate from the US Treasury for themselves?  It would also appear that with all the different rates that were quoted on Friday’s call the bank is setting a lot more opportunities for conflict as to why someone couldn’t get the next higher rate and thus increasing people being blacklisted or put on the naughty list.   Ans:

·         BurbankLou: Have there been any more changes in Iraq like prices or more lower denoms or contractors being paid at a new rate?  Ans:

·         Buckles102: With all the rate changes we’ve had lately, how do we know how much money we are leaving on the table?  Ans: 

·         Rkb1: If they set us up into a structured payout will we be able to get a lump sum in the beginning, so maybe we can purchase a home or any large purchase and then get the rest into the structured payment if it in fact goes that way?  Ans:

·         Berthamaria:  Is there a limit on how many dinars, Dong, and Zim that you can exchange?  Ans:

·         Mocha2u: Could one of you provide some clarification on the differences in exchange procedures for dinar vs other currency.  I’m a little confused about waiting for the exchange rate to increase shortly after RV is released.  Is this for dinar only?  Also, sometimes I get confused when questions are asked about rates because I’m not sure if the question/answer is referring to exchange rate or rate of interest on my deposit.  Is there a different word for each or do I just have to try and follow the gist of the question/answer?  Ans: watch Forex and get more for up is an option.  Not for most of you.  80% aren’t going to disciplined to watch it in throughout the day every day.  Have to set up notifications, etc., have access to get you in that day.  You want to call the 800# and go in that day for that rate!  Will work for some people.  Opportunity will be there but requires you to do some work.  Questions on Rate, and Rates?  T/exchange rate.  Interest rate is like any finance.  What the Bank is going to give you.  Two separate scenarios, one has nothing to do with the other.

·         Speedy: We know they are exchanging people now, when are they going to exchange TNT?  Ans:

·         Compassionscup:  Repeated request for clarification.  Has the Dong been given a cap for exchanging at the Contract rate?  Have you received any clarification about the Humanitarian projects connected to the contract rate for the Dong?  Has there been an update on the rates showing on the bank screens?  Ans:

·         Tp40:  Have the auctions been slowed to 1 time per week, or still going everyday, or stopped all together?  Ans:

·         Bluelingo:  Since one of my investments is for security and not necessarily high interest income, namely a farming operation that will be run mainly by those in need from a homeless mother to a vet to a youth out of foster or orphanage and will basically breakeven, is the goal each year because of the low wages and planned hi benefits in order to give these individuals a roof,…Would it be as good to operate this farm as a charitable? Non-statutory trust or necessary to form it under a foundation 501-3-C?  Just your opinion.  Ans:

·         Highesthealer:  tony has mentioned his exchange will be a bit different from ours. If I don’t like what the bank has to offer and decide to walk away, how does that work?  Logistics wise?  Do I: 1) make more than one appt when calling the 800# so I can meet with more than one bank and decide?  Will they allow that?  2) Assuming I can only make one appt when first calling, and say I’m not happy w offer, then what?  Go back and call 800# for different appt with different bank?  What do you suggest?  What would you do if you were me?  Ans:

·         Big Daddy:  It was mentioned the banks would take all the Zim notes.  Is that true and does it include the 500 million notes?  Ans:

·         Nicole19:  I know there’s no tax on the RV.  What are the tax consequences for forming separate trusts for me, my brother, and my sister with my RV money?  Ans:

·         Roman4Freedom: I want the contract rate, but not on the Zim.  Not interested in providing a project to them.  Can I just get the other rate for it, or does it have to be all of them?  Ans:

·         Gwinston: With respect to the rates you mentioned on the last call, (1) have you been informed of the thresholds that allow you to negotiate the higher rates other than the “contract rate”?  (2) Same question for obtaining the “contract rate”. Ans:

·         Ganalou?  3 mo’s or 6 mo’s.  R/I’m asking for 10%.  T/they aren’t going to give you 10% for 3 months.  Would you give it to somebody?  Be reasonable.  I’m going to ask for as much as I can.  Negotiate.  Don’t know how much money you have.  Probably not going to give us “parameters” until it goes live.

·         Live Callers:

·         303/Denver, CO.  C/Pls go thru exchange at center vrs. bank.  T/Exchange center can do what a bank can do.  Rent out a bldg. and put all there people there.  Do everything the bank will do.  Just like if you were in a branch down the street, just more people there.  If they can’t bring your account up on their computer, you have a problem. Don’t be scared of exchange centers.  No difference in giving contract rates.  C/what’s the back wall now?  T/could happen any moment.  Don’t know what is.  All saying this week, again.  Sat the world came back, don’t worry about it (Zim), it’s going with or without it.

·         281/Former Houston, TX. C/ Is it still that same one bank saying you have to have a humanitarian project to get the contract?  T/Just that one bank.  C/won’t they have to go higher up to get approval?  T/Don’t know how they’re going to to do it.  Makes no sense.  C/have those who went before us gone “liquid yet”/ T/nope!  Don’t know why.  Pending every time, and now re-done and will have to do it again.  Don’t think they’re going to get paid until all go live. C/what money are we going to get until approval.

·         281/Houston, TX.  C/did you get any news about threshold of different currencies? T/no.  Don’t know if every bank is doing that or how long it will last.  C/be on Forex?  T/may not be on Forex for 3 or 4 days.  If it goes on Fri evening, it can’t get on Forex until Sunday afternoon.  C/Can we negotiate at the time it shows it high?  T/Tony you can always ask. During the first 10-12 days negotiating. After that time, it’s at the rate! T/don’t want “analysis by paralysis”.  We’re going to get it, do a call, send out info to help you get the best deal you can get.  80-90% this is the only shot you can get.  Nobody has ever said you can only exchange one note.  Can you only take one $25k Dinar note?  Doesn’t make sense!

·         336/Greensboro, NC.  C/appreciation!

·         931/ Nashville, TN.  C/2nd basket, would you like to share that?  T/no sir!  C/would like to help you set that up.  My partner would like to help you.  T/is she in Vegas?  C/no Boston.  Wants to help.

·         386/Palm Coast, FL (Chief).  C/If Zim doesn’t go in first basket, should we buy more?  R/depends whey it didn’t go.  Don’t see how they could prevent you from buying it.  C/if you exchanged Dinar and Dong, if we can find it we could buy it.  R/that’s right!

·         760/Oceanside, CA.  Thank you!

·         916/Sacramento, CA. C/? on rates.  T/an hour or two before stop selling.  Weekend before last, first time they said you should start looking for 800#’s, didn’t say that this weekend.  They could go back to their exchange tomorrow morning.  C/crazy they didn’t do it over the weekend.  Should I buy more?  T/if you can afford it, why not?  Most people could afford $50/wk and make yourself an extra ½ – million dollars.  C/Our region is #12.  Is Vegas close enough to be in the same?  R/you mean District?  Vegas is in same district as CA, AZ, UT, WA.  C/were you an AF recruiter in IN?  T/yes!

·         Final comments:  We’re still happy, excited.  No bad news but didn’t happen over the weekend.  I’ll send out a tweet if they’re all back to work.  Rates haven’t gone down.

·         Interesting Recent Comments & Questions (a few of AZhombre’s picks):

·         R/members created 21 pgs. booklet. http://tiny.cc/prep4xchange w worksheet.

·         R/Contract rate won’t be fluctuating

·         T/Still must dial 800# with a 5k note, can’t just walk into the bank to exchange it.

·         T/ Have a plan for what I shared with you

·         T/Heard you can get contract rates on all the currencies I’m going to try on mine!

·         T/You with millions are going to be able to negotiate. (it’s how you negotiate).

·         T/Iraqi Dinar will be higher than the Kuwait ($3.29) Dinar.  Within 15 cents range.

·         T/From another source we have 30m people with Dinar.  At least 5m new millionaires!

·         Former Rates; Dinar: $3.50, $3.63, $4.43, $28.50.  Dong: $0.47, $1.00, $1.37, $2.23.      Zim $0.22 – $0.33.  Afghani $2.39.  Rial $3.24.  Rupiah: $1.08-$1.30

·         Updated Rates (7/05/2019); Dianr: $3.65, $4.47, $6.00, $8.00.  Contract rate $28.50 Dong: everybody can get $0.47, $0.56, $0.87, $2.27 and contract rate of $6.00.

Zim: $0.11, $0.22, contract rate of $0.35 (35 cents), & Rupiah: $1.05, $1:08, $1.

my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas

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my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 08:09:47 AM »
My brother reconnected with a female friend from grade school about 9 months ago and they are going to get married in May 2018. She is a nice girl with a good heart. However, she is really excited about the Iraqi Dinar RV (re-evaluation) that is going to happen within the next 3-6 months (according to her). 

She pretty much brain washed my brother into buying into this idea. My brother has a 4 year degree in Business Entrepreneurship. He is all about the high risk and high reward type of thing. He tried and failed a few MLM businesses over the last 5-10 years. She graduated high school. They are both 36. 

However, this type of business scheme is a little bit of a stretch for my brother, but not entirely uncommon. 

My brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my birthday last June and for Christmas. He also bought it for my wife and 1 year old son. We have about 400,000 of Iraqi Dinar, which I think is about 325 US dollars. He is giving me a hard sell to buy some for myself or I could miss out on some big profits of 100 to 1, when it re-evaluates. 
 
The best article I could find out about it is below. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jayadkisson/2012/07/30/you-cant-fix-stupid-the-iraqi-dinar-scam-lives/#3f398ae3150b

1) Any chance that I could politely tell my brother to stop buying me this crap?

2) Any chance that I could politely tell my brother to stop buying it for himself? 

3) How do the sellers make money? Do they just give the buyer a poor exchange rate?

4) What is the best way to convert my Iraqi Dinar back into US currency? 

Thank you.
« [i]Last Edit: December 27, 2017, 01:35:31 PM by clarkfan1979[/i] »

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #1 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 12:32:17 PM »
Good luck getting him to change his mind...

As for converting them to US dollars, ask your bank/credit union. There is usually one bank in the area that specializes in currency. In my area (Salt Lake City) it is Zion’s Bank. Call first. 

Good Luck

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #2 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM »
Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?

That not being the case, here's my thinking, for what it's worth (which should be very little, since, as admitted above, I have zero familiarity with the topic): If there's even a small chance of the "100 to 1" valuation, why not hold onto the stuff for now, just for fun? 

As for your questions:

1) Good luck with that. Forbes is well-known and as far as I know has a good reputation; could you send him that article?

2) See (1) above.

3 & 4) No effing clue. 

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #3 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:22:33 PM »
So when the Iraqis lop off a couple of zeroes off the currency, you'll basically be left with monopoly money.

The old banknotes obviously cease to be legal tender, with new ones issued in replacement.

People are still falling for Zimbabwe money scams. Looks like the scammers are expanding their repertoire...

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #4 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:37:20 PM »
Quote from: Miss Piggy on December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM

Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?

That not being the case, here's my thinking, for what it's worth (which should be very little, since, as admitted above, I have zero familiarity with the topic): If there's even a small chance of the "100 to 1" valuation, why not hold onto the stuff for now, just for fun? 

As for your questions:

1) Good luck with that. Forbes is well-known and as far as I know has a good reputation; could you send him that article?

2) See (1) above.

3 & 4) No effing clue. 

I modified the topic. Thank you for the suggestion.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #5 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:59:24 PM »
On a side note, don't lend them money, and don't let them know how much you have. Just in case.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #6 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 02:07:08 PM »
Oh, the glorious Christmas gift of ENTERTAINMENT!   ClarkFan1979, so sorry you had to be the conduit for this pile of chuckles.  At least he is giving to you, not (so far) trying to get you to buy his wares, as so often happens in MLMs.  In my own mind, I will classify him as Kindhearted Bro until further notice.

Re your questions:
1. Of course you can tell him, but why rain on his parade?  He is not going to learn from you, only from experience, if at all.  He will, however, feel the love or disdain in your response.  Tell him you admire his bold spirit, and ask him if he's going to take you to Acapulco or Dubai when his dinars revalue.

2. See 1.  

3. I was wondering that myself.  I can only assume they sell above the exchange rate, or sell counterfeits, or sell the old notes that have been replaced by new ones when the Iraqi government lopped three zeroes off a few years ago (I read that Forbes article).  Best guess: selling the valueless old notes at the price of the new notes.  Great margins, plus they can appear to be giving zero markup.

4. Exchange it for Bitcoin!  Bwahaha, my whole response was just to make this one brief joke.  

Quiet times here, hope this offered a shred of amusement.  In all seriousness, I once had a friend whose financial schemes ranged from wild failure to just being broke on a regular basis.  The choice was to enjoy to his merry ways at the price of observing his failures, or block him off and wonder what was happening.  I chose to enjoy his merry ways.  Even more so, a relative is someone you don't want to block off unless staying connected is actively harmful.  Good luck getting rid of the bills or coins.  And having lost a relative or two in recent year, treasure your brother for who he is, even if it's not (fortunately!!) who you are.   Cheers.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #7 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 02:47:28 PM »
Quote from: Miss Piggy on December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM

Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?

Yes, huge disappointment. :p

+1 to exchange for Bitcoin.
+1 for being supportive to Kindhearted Bro, who sincerely thinks this will lead to mega riches and wants to share that prospect with you.

Answers to 1 & 2)
Explain that although you support him, you're a much more conservative investor and would prefer index funds instead... or traditional gifts such as clothes, gift cards, gadgets (even if you don't like them/need them it would still be preferable to his MLM stuff).

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #8 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 04:16:39 PM »
How does everyone NOT know this scam.  This is older than the Nigerian prince scam.  Go convert all that junk into real money.  Tell your brother that's what you did and if he gives you any more, you'll do it again.  Your brother should sell Amway.  Way better chance of making money than with this scam.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #9 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 02:48:45 AM »
I had some left over from Iraq deployments and eventually sold it all on Ebay. 

Ask your brother this... how can he explain the 100 to 1 value increase?  So you're saying an Iraqi could take his dinar and suddenly be 100x richer if he changes it to dollars (after the valuation)?  We're about to be flooded with Iraqi millionaires then. 

Secondly, if it was a real 'investment', then real rich folks would be buying every single dinar they could get their hands on.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #10 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 06:30:38 AM »
If your brother is anything like mine, tell him this is the best idea he’s ever had and you wished you thought of it. Tell him you support him 100% and you’d invest everything you have except you can’t but that he should right away. Cause if your brother is anything like mine, he’ll do the opposite of whatever you tell him and reject all of your advice.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #11 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 07:19:07 AM »
This scam has been going on for almost a decade. 

I have met quite a few people over the years who have tried to get me to "buy in". 

Good luck.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #12 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 08:32:11 AM »
Say thank you for the gift. Turn it into USD and invest it. Leave the issue alone. You are not going to solve your brother's problem.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #13 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 01:29:25 PM »
It's ironic that this is getting posted today. I was listening to NPR this morning and they had a segment on the Iraqi government's estimate on the cost to rebuild the destruction caused by ISIS. Unfortunately, no one is willing to help them finance the reconstruction effort and I imagine the Iraqi dinar will take a bigger hit when the government starts printing more money to rebuild. 

Zimbabwe Dollars though...those have value. I keep a few of those notes around around my MegaCorp office just in case we have a bad quarter in terms of revenue. For some reason my bosses don't seem to derive much comfort from the fact that if we're behind I can give them 10 BILLION DOLLARS!!!1!

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #14 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 01:47:20 PM »
Oh this brings back memories of a nutter I knew a few years ago. I think the north Korean currency is the other one these folks also say is set to explode.  

I suppose it could be entertaining reading.

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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #15 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 02:28:57 PM »
I bought some when I was deployed in 2004-2005. About $200 worth (250,000 dinar). Last time I checked it's gone up in value to about $210. I suppose that's better than if I had left it in a savings account but had it been in an index fund it would have doubled or tripled since then. I can't recall what the rate of return has been but it's something like 1-2% over 12-13 years.

It was neat to pull it out and show my kids as I had a mix of various bills. That's about it though. It's just a souvenir at this point. Maybe I should sell some of it to your brother?

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« [b]Reply #16 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 06:48:28 PM »
Sell it to your brother

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« [b]Reply #17 on:[/b] December 31, 2017, 08:53:21 AM »
Thank you for the help. I will continue to support my brother with his business adventures, but not contribute any of my own money. 
 
I'm going to try to exchange it within the next 2-3 days. Not all currency exchange businesses will exchange the Dinar. I'm guessing there is a higher risk of counterfeit. Hopefully my Dinar is not counterfeit.  I will find out soon. 

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« [b]Reply #18 on:[/b] January 06, 2018, 08:52:45 PM »
I exchanged the Iraqi Dinar currency today for US dollars. An internet search today claims that $400,000 Iraqi Dinar is worth $337 US dollars. I went to the currency exchange in Denver at the Cherry Creek mall. They gave me $230 US dollars, minus a $5 fee for a total of $225. I have heard that a currency exchange will change 20%. However, this was a 33% fee. 

Maybe the fee is higher because of a higher level chance of fraud? When I looked at their board of exchange rates it looks like they charged only 15% for more legitimate currencies.

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Quote from: clarkfan1979 on January 06, 2018, 08:52:45 PM

I exchanged the Iraqi Dinar currency today for US dollars. An internet search today claims that $400,000 Iraqi Dinar is worth $337 US dollars. I went to the currency exchange in Denver at the Cherry Creek mall. They gave me $230 US dollars, minus a $5 fee for a total of $225. I have heard that a currency exchange will change 20%. However, this was a 33% fee. 

Maybe the fee is higher because of a higher level chance of fraud? When I looked at their board of exchange rates it looks like they charged only 15% for more legitimate currencies.

They'll just be profiting on the currency spread. They might sell that 400,000 dinar to someone for $400 later on. The more common currencies that'll be easier for them to on-sell (and potentially less volatile) will probably have more competitive rates.

I've got some Sri Lankan rupees I've been meaning to sell from when I was there last year. They're valued at 120LKR to the Australian dollar at present (based on xe.com rates), but the currency conversion place will buy them at 140LKR to the AUD. I paid about 105-110 when I bought them

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« [b]Reply #20 on:[/b] January 07, 2018, 05:43:33 PM »
Wowza, the spread on Polish Zlote (PLN) is about .02-.03PLN per dollar, or about one cent. 

33% sounds insane, so does 15%. 

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« [b]Reply #21 on:[/b] January 07, 2018, 08:39:04 PM »
The thread reminded me that I have a butter tub of Saudi Riyals from Desert Storm.
I'll have to count it and see what it's worth.




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45 SECURITY TIPS: ARE YOUR ASSETS & FAMILY SAFE



The last few years have witnessed an all-out assault on your personal and financial privacy. Credit-reporting agencies, schools, Internet marketers, medical clearing-houses, and dozens of other private organizations, Government all now maintain detailed records on us. The worst offender has been the U.S. government.

PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS PERSONALLY! THIS IS STRICTLY PROTECTION MEASURES AND BUSINESS FOR ONE TO TAKE CARE OF NOW.

Herein are Great Ways To Protect Your Privacy:

#1. The first law of privacy is: TO STAY QUIET, particularly when one is in public, on the phone, or sending faxes or e-mail. DO NOT TAKE THIS PERSONAL; IT'S ALL ABOUT BUSINESS AND YOUR SECURITY! IT ONLY TAKES ONE PERSON TO 'UPSET YOUR APPLECART".

In fact, electronic communications are now so vulnerable to interception by government agencies, private investigators, and other snoops, that one shouldn't say anything in these communications you wouldn't want published on the front page of the New York Times or recorded by the IRS.

One can now get hacked into from your printer. Use separate computers and printers. One for on-line and one for off-line, IMHO.

# 2. Don't flaunt one's wealth, particularly if you have a lot of money. If you own a fancy home, make sure it looks as modest as possible from the outside. suggestion to buy cars under $75,000; Keep new homes/apartments/condo under 1 million. There is no need to advertise wealth.

The IRS regularly searches car-purchase and property records. If they suspect tax evasion – real or imagined – they can freeze your assets, and seize your car and home. When traveling overseas, you have to be even more careful.

Driving a fancy car or dressing like a "rich" American – i.e., the way you normally dress – can make you a target for robbers, kidnappers and anti-American terrorists. Also limit your credit card use. Every time you use your credit card, thieves could steal the number and rack up huge charges.

It could take months or even years to get it all sorted out. stick with a car no higher than a LEXUS, to 75k, or one's draws serious attention.

# 3. Shred or burn important documents. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that it's 100% legal for snoops to rummage through your curbside trash and keep any papers they find.

So never throw any important papers in the trash without shredding them – including bank and credit-card statements, utility bills, letters from Social Security or other government agencies, information from your stock broker, etc.

Make sure and use a cross-cut shredder ($100-$150) which reduces documents to confetti, rather than a less-expensive shredder that cuts paper into strips which can be pasted back together. For ultra-sensitive documents, nothing beats burning them.

# 4. Isolate sensitive computer files from snoops. As we use our computers more and more to keep sensitive records and correspondence, it becomes more important to protect them from snoops. The #1 threat to your sensitive files is your modem, fax, or DSL Internet connection – anything that electronically connects your computer to the outside world.

Thanks to cookies, e-mail wiretaps, and other techniques, when you're browsing the web or reading your e-mail, snoops at the other end can download files from your computer hard drive.

The only sure way to protect yourself is by keeping all sensitive information on a different computer (or at least a different hard drive with its own, separate operating system) than the computer you use for web browsing.

In other words, you use Computer #1 to browse the web and send e-mail; and you use Computer #2 for word processing, accounting, and storing important information. Computer #1 has no important files or sensitive information.

Computer #2 has no electronic connection to the outside world. To minimize expenses, your two computers can share the same keyboard and monitor, by the addition of a network hub (about $100). Warning; Now as of 11/11 printers can now be hacked into.!!

# 5. Keep your web browsing and e-mail private. Whenever you contact a company or organization on the Internet, the computer at the other end will often insert a "cookie" into your computer – enabling merchants and government agencies to keep track of your web browsing.

The information that can be collected about you in this way is absolutely mind-boggling and includes your name, address, phone number, detailed information on the type of computer you are using, your Social Security number, credit-card numbers, a list of your friends and business contacts, and much more.

To keep your web browsing private, use an anonymous connection service,

For further protection, encrypt your e-mail, using high-level, 1024-bit encryption software, such as Pretty Good Privacy (PGP). http:// www.pgp.comZero Knowledge Systems (ZKS) offers software called "Freedom" which also uses 1024-bit encryption and which: Allows you to use multi-pseudonyms that can't be traced to your real name Prevents the receipt of Internet cookies Provides multi-layers of encryption.

# 6. KEEP YOUR HOME ADDRESS & PHONE# PRIVATE! This is the single MOST IMPORTANT step you can take to protect your privacy though all items within this POST are urgent for your welfare. Government snoops can't nose around your home, bug your computer, or listen in on your calls, if they don't know where you live or your phone number..

To keep your home address private, rent or buy your home in the name of an out-of-state corporation (Delaware and Nevada corporations are best). Also put your utilities in the name of the corporation, as well as your phone, and magazine and newspaper subscriptions.

This is precisely what TV personalities, professional athletes, and film stars do to protect their privacy. And it's not expensive. A Delaware corporation can be set up for as little as $150 and maintained for $50 a year!

Take your names off your local country tax rolls and replace your name with "property Owner". this is crucial!!!

# 6 B: Receive all MAIL personally addressed to you at a nearby mail drop, such as Mail Boxes, Etc. (about $15 a month), or an Executive Office Service ($50 to $150 a month), or at the address of a friend who owns a nearby business (free). Then use this address for your driver's license and car registration.

Naturally, your car will also be registered in the name of your corporation. Properly set up, a Delaware or Nevada corporation can also dramatically lower your taxes, if you're an independent contractor. (Please consult your attorney.)

For a private home phone, use a company name when setting up a new phone account, rather than your own, and make sure and get caller ID, complete blocking. To add a further level of phone privacy, purchase a prepaid cell phone – such as those offered by Trac Fone through Blockbuster, WalMart, and Staples.

No name, address, credit check, etc. is required to set up an account, and you can buy phone cards for cash to add more time. As of 11/11 Wal-Mart sells i-phones for less than $100 and Unlimited internet, text and talk for $55 per month. This is a fabulous rate!!!

#7 A.) (TWO PARTS) . Keep your medical records more private. Information in your medical files can be used to deny you insurance, jobs, and legal benefits. It could be even used by a government just slightly more authoritarian than the one we now have, to take away your children or commit one elsewhere.

Unfortunately, each time you see a doctor or check into a hospital or clinic, they will usually demand your Social Security Number, which in turn will be used to file and locate your medical records.

You can protect yourself from unwanted snooping by getting an alternative Medical photo ID from ID Network (IDN). No SSN is required, and medical records are kept in your own handwriting. $9.95. Call 1-888-329-3686 or 314-416-7411, http://www.idnetwork.com.

#7 PART B: In the civilized society, we each have a crucial zone of privacy shielding us from outside snooping and control. Privacy is about keeping more of what you earn – protecting the sensitive information in your computer - avoiding being hassled by the IRS or police – protecting your children – and minimizing your chances of a 2 am visit by a machine-gun-toting SWAT team.

The battle for your privacy is the battle for your freedom. Ultimately it is a battle we will win. AMEN.

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#8. EXCHANGE TIME : these are suggestions to consider; you decide what IS BEST UNDER YOUR SITUATION. THERE ARE MANY OPTIONS HERE FOR PRECAUTIONARY MEASURES. The wolves inside and outside the bank can be few to many in different clothing. Your Life and Your Life Savings may be at RISK.

# 9. Do not park in the bank lot. Why show your car tags to others that will jot them down and trace u? A camera can take a photo of you and your tags for blocks away. Take a taxi or rental car to the banks.

# 10.. Go with someone to the bank; spouse, best friend who is a fellow Dinarian. Caps and glasses are nice. Make no new friends at the bank or locally who might discover your fortunes.

#11.. Make an appointment , if required, to make the 'exchange'.

#12. Know your rate before you go. Have a predetermined game plan. Shop your rates. Seek investment angles, advice also from maybe Smith Barney, Scottrade Inc, etc, various options.

# 13. Watch your body language, look and play the part of Investor. MANY maybe WATCHING. Use dressy attire but no jeans or T's.

#14.There is NO rush to cash in; supposedly many weeks and option days to have the possible 15% tax advantage with no audits (this is still a rumor; will be confirmed sooner or later next week). Seek competent tax and legal advice.
 
#15. If your deposit is in an acct "non interest bearing savings acct" this should be Dodd-Frank. check with your banker. NIB accts are usually unlimited in coverage.

#16. SMITH BARNEY or MORGAN STANLEY INC. OR SCOTTRADE INC ET and others can re-insure your accounts somewhere in the $600,000 TO ONE BILLION $$ range per account.

Seek legal advice and the broker / company policies. DO NOT LEAVE SIGNIFICANT LARGE SUMS IN INSTITUtIONS UNLESS ITS RE-INSURED; IE: LLOYDS IN


#17. AFTER MAKING YOUR INITIAL DEPOSIT; TRANSFER IT TO ANOTHER INTEREST FREE CHECKING ACCT WITHIN THE WEEK; SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. THIS PREVENTS WIRE TRANSFER AGENTS AND PAST BANK KNOWING YOUR NEW ACCT #!! (AGAIN, PLEASE FILTER ALL THIS DATA. YOU DECIDE WHICH WORKS FOR U, BUT TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE AND WAITING IS NOT HEALTHY FOR THESE ISSUES AND ACTIONS HEREIN "MAY SAVE YOUR LIFE".

# 18. ONLY USE YOUR PASSPORTS FOR IDS: IT DOES NOT HAVE YOUR HOME ADDRESS, SOCIAL SECURITY # TIED IN. Avoid using your Drivers License for anything but the cops and court when or if mandated!

#19. Use UPS postal drop for home address or your attorney's office work address until you get things squared away about physical addresses. Never use one's home address for anything, especially: mail, fed ex, UPS, !!! Have your bank statements go to a Po Box! Never let one's attorney know how much money you have.

#20. IMHO, "Irrevocable Business Trust" or a "Irrevocable Spendthrift Trust" saves your wealth, health and happiness from the tax man. . It's Worth every penny and more. Trusts are much more apt to protect large estates. Revocable Trust hold little or no water with the IRS & States.

#21: IMHO: Legalshield.com or in some states, PREPAID LEGAL INC.: for family, business, Wills, IRS audits, Citations, legal situations. 100's of legal help issues that may give legal piece of Mind and ease the pocketbook too. Attorneys are assigned within your State to handle your cases. Some situations are outsourced to qualified attorneys within your state and they contact you. Fees average $17-49 monthly.

#22: BEWARE/ ALERT: RFID )))) RADIO FREQUENCY ID. RADIO CHIPS MAYBE INSIDE YOUR CREDIT CARD. IT IS ELECTRONIC ‘PICK-POCKETING’ OF ANOTHER’S CREDIT CARD # AND EXPIRATION DATE. LOOK FOR SYMBOL)))) OR POSSIBLE OTHER SYMBOLS. ONE’S CARD # AND EXPIRATION DATE INFO CAN BE COPIED ONTO SOMEONE’S ‘HOTEL ROOM KEY’.

THEFT DEVICE CAN BE BOUGHT FOR $100. KEEP ALL CREDIT CARDS INSIDE ALUMINUM /METAL SLEEVE OR CASE.

HACKERS CAN GET YOUR CARD #S VERY EASILY. SEE THIS VIDEO AND BEWARE. ‘RFID’ CHIPS ARE IN 33% OF CREDIT CARDS MADE TODAY. TAKE CAUTION NOW. THESE CHIPS CAN ALSO BE IN YOUR SOON TO BE BANK “BLACK DEBIT CARDS”. THIS COULD GET COSTLY AND DANGEROUS AT THE SAME TIME. IT’S BEST NOT TO HAVE ‘RFID’ CREDIT CARDS.

CHECK WITH YOUR BANK ON ‘CASH-IN’ / ‘CURRENCY EXCHANGE’ TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT ISSUED ANY TYPE OF “ RADIO FREQUENCY RFID )))) “ CREDIT CARDS ON ANY OF YOUR CURRENT (AND FUTURE) ACCOUNTS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLAFhTjsQHw&sns=em

#23 (#23-36 WERE ADDED 7/16/12): Reduce Your Risk of Identity Theft: Traveling (for business or pleasure) can increase your exposure to financial risk. Here are some simple tips to protect yourself and reduce the risk of identity theft as you head out on your summer vacation.

#24: Clean out your wallet: Take only your essential documents, like your driver’s license and just 2 credit cards – one to carry and one to leave in the safe at the hotel in case your wallet is lost or stolen. Don’t carry your social security card in your wallet – ever. Leave your extra credit cards or identifications documents at home. Men – keep your wallet in a buttoned pocket, women – wear a purse with wide straps and locking clasps, and don’t hang it on the door when you use a public restroom.

#25: Leave your checkbook at home:  You shouldn’t need it if you have credit cards. Leave your bills and private papers at home, too.

#26: Make a copy of your travel documents: Copy your passport, driver’s license, airline confirmations, etc. Leave it with a trusted friend in case you need help, or keep a copy safely tucked inside a suitcase pocket in case the original gets lost or stolen. Make a list of what you have in your wallet, along with the phone numbers on the back of your cards.

#27: Stop your mail or have a neighbor pick it up: A full mailbox with bank statements and credit card bills is a sure sign for hackers and thieves that you are not at home. Also, stop the newspaper, and don’t broadcast your travel plans on social networking sites.

#28: Alert your credit and debit card issuers: Let them know where you are traveling, how you may be reached, and when you will return. This helps the fraud department stop charges that may not be yours, and reduces the risk that your cards will be “frozen” due to unusual activity when you are away from home and can’t be reached

#29: Keep an eye on your cell phone: Many people are storing user ID’s and passwords and other personal information on their cell phones. Secure your phone with a security code so that it can’t be accessed if it is lost or stolen.

#30: Consider a temporary credit freeze: A freeze will deny access to your credit history, so ID thieves can’t open accounts while you are away. Setting up a freeze through the three credit reporting bureaus – Transunion, Experian and Equifax – takes time and money, so this is the most beneficial if you are planning a period of prolonged travel.

#31: Look for safer ATMs: If you need cash withdrawals, ATMs in bank lobbies are less vulnerable to devices used to capture your information, and are usually better lit and safer in general. They are also more likely to have surveillance cameras.

#32: Be careful with computers in hotels and other public places: Don’t access your financial data on hotel or other public computers or public Wi-Fi networks. Public computers may have spy-ware or malware installed which could record everything you type. Be sure to log out of any sites that you may access before leaving the PC.

#33: Beware of front desk calls: If you receive a call from a “clerk” saying that they need to re-enter your credit card number, hang up and call the front desk yourself. You don’t now who is at the other end of that call.

#34: A few simple steps will go a long way in protecting you and your information and prevent your vacation or business trip from turning into a headache. If you have any concerns about your personal information, notice any suspicious account activity, or experience a customer information security-related event, contact your bank branch immediately so that they can assist you.

#35: ONLY PUT ONE'S PO BOX ADDRESS ON THEIR CHECKS. NEVER PLACE BIRTHDATE OR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS OR EVEN PHONE NUMBER ON YOUR CHECKS. MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR THE WOLVES/THIEVES IF THEY TAKE ONE'S CHECKBOOK.

#36: ACT IMMEDIATELY AND ACCORDINGLY TO PROTECT ONESELF, FAMILY, BUSINESS. ONE OR TWO MINUTES COULD SAVE : TIME, MONEY, GRIEF, UNTOLD PAPERWORK & CHAOS!

#37: Any major ideas or investments, always bounce it off someone you trust like your CPA, Attorney or Investment advisors. Many are ashamed to admit they've been taken advantage of or conned. Do not be over-trusting, nieve or gullible.. When or if someone tries to interest you in a venture involving money /investments, say, "I'll discuss this with my real estate agent, CPA or lawyer and get back to you." Then talk with someone you trust.

#38: further info on personal identity: Scam-proof your communications by taking control of your personal information. Put your phone numbers (home and cell) on the Do Not Call Registry. Opt out from the sale or sharing of your personal information by contacting the three credit bureaus, your state department of motor vehicles, the Direct Marketing Association and companies with which you do business. Thieves cull your information and use it to open bogus accounts that can ruin your credit scores, credit and make your life absolutely miserable.

For more information on how to remove yourself from these databases, see the Federal Trade Commission's Web page on sharing your personal information.

#39: Don’t Trust Your Caller ID: Never do business over the phone, unless you initiate the call. Here's why: No matter what your caller ID might say, you don't really know who's on the other end of the line. If you place the call yourself, divulging personal information isn't as risky. If you receive a call from someone who claims to be with your bank, insurance company or some other place where you do business -- unless you recognize the caller -- say you'll call back. That will give you time to make sure the number is legitimate. Simply call the company's published number and ask to speak to the individual who called you, or to someone in the appropriate department.

#40: Ways to make using a debit card safer include the following: Run your purchases as credit so you don't have to input your PIN. & Always double-check your card when a clerk, cashier or waiter hands it back to you and make certain it's the same card you handed over.

Be suspicious of people who want to stand too close to you when you're using your debit card, particularly when they are using a cellphone. They could be recording your debit card information with their camera

#41: Regard All Links With Suspicion: Social networking can be a great way to keep up with friends and family, but scammers have found the Internet a gold mine of opportunity. Most of us know not to click on links in emails from people we don't know or to acknowledge those silly get-rich-quick schemes from strangers, but you should never underestimate a con artist's creativity.

For instance, a recent scam on Facebook involves a fake game based on the "Twilight" series. Fans are prompted to click on the link, exposing their personal information to scammers.

Best rule of thumb: Be on your guard and never click on links of unknown origin. Check on them by running a search with the relevant keyword (in this case, "Twilight") and "complaint" or "scam."

42# Safeguard Online Activities: Don't join the thousands who fall victim to online identity theft schemes each year. Some are as simple as planting a keystroke logger on your computer to copy your private information, while others involve complicated email exchanges.

Here are some of the best strategies for avoiding online fraud:

Don't ever respond to emails asking for your account information since they are almost always fakes.

Never click on links embedded in emails (even a friend or relative can accidentally pass along a virus). If you must see that funny video, type the URL directly into your browser.

#43: When you decide to purchase from an online merchant, always make certain that you're dealing with a reputable site. Check for complaints and never click on a link; instead, as with email links, type the company's correct URL into your browser.

Make it a habit to double-check that order forms are secure before completing them. Instead of the standard "http," the URL will begin with "https," which indicates a secure transmission.

#44: DOUBLE REMINDER : Don't forget to maintain up-to-date, functioning security software and a firewall WITH latest up to date Online Protection.

#45: Guard your medical insurance information and ALL PERSONAL INFORMATION OF ANY NATURE with the same zeal as you do your financial data. the National Health Care Anti-Fraud Association says the fallout from medical fraud can damage your credit rating, open you to litigation and even result in your receiving improper medical care. "Always examine your explanation of benefits for treatments that you didn't have," he says.

THE LESS INFO there is out there about you, the harder you are to target. Make the con artists' jobs difficult by avoiding their scam tactics. They don't deserve to score off your hard work.

* #s 37-45 contributed in part by : Former policewoman Carole Moore,author of "The Last Place You'd Look: True Stories of Missing Persons and the People Who Search for Them."

Read more: 8 ways to avoid getting conned

http://www.bankrate.com/finance/personal-finance/8-ways-to-avoid-becoming-a-successful-mark-1.aspx#ixzz217YsBOtg

ALL CONTRIBUTORS, INFO, IDEAS ARE SINCERELY APPRECIATED TO HELP DINARIANS AROUND THE PLANET. I LOVE YOU ALL. BLESSINGS. LAST UPDATE 11/11/12.

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Samson » January 14th, 2018

Abdel-Mahdi offers French Foreign Minister a proposal to study twinning between Paris and Baghdad

2019/1/14 13:31

The Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi, the French Foreign Minister that France is a friend of Iraq and relations with them is very important for its position and strong role and distinguished, while presented a proposal to study twinning between Paris and Baghdad.

"We look forward to a greater contribution, presence and cooperation in the fields of economy, services, culture and education in continuation of France's position on Iraq's side in its war against Daqash," he said, quoting a statement issued by his office. And communicate on support for security and stability in the region."

He added that "the democratic experience in Iraq is strengthened and achieved progress for the benefit of all Iraqis, and that a supporter is not an Iraqi industry but a backward and extremist thinking industry, calling for building balances that support moderation, moderation and civic values. He stressed his keenness to develop partnership relations with France in the fight against terrorism and construction projects, He also expressed full readiness to overcome obstacles and legacies."

The Prime Minister thanked France's position on the cancellation of debts owed by Iraq through the Paris Club.

The Prime Minister put forward a proposal for a twinning study between the cities of Paris and Baghdad, and the French side welcomed it and promised to study it.

"We have come to declare our full support for Iraq and its government and to express France's will to expand relations with Iraq, and we will continue to stand by Iraq in building after our supporting position in defeating the support and support of Iraqi forces," he said.

He added that "Iraq has become a key player in stability and its policy is based on the exclusion of conflicts and the preservation of sovereignty and national decision, and France will go forward with the partnership and cooperation with Iraq and support the Iraqi government, which leads Iraq successfully," referring to "an upcoming visit to French President Macaron to Baghdad to confirm support And develop the friendly relations of cooperation and partnership between the two countries." LINK

Doodlebug » January 14th, 2018

FRANKIE FRANKIE... you told us so!

Frank26 » January 14th, 2018

AND ON TONIGHT'S M CC ..................…. TELL YOU MORE …

MilitiaMan » January 14th, 2018

The above can be referenced back in Nov 27th post #12 about french contracts in the coming months. I have seen data to support contract money has been paid into the UK and the "Baroness Nicholson" was in part to the payments in the UK ($billions).

If we look at the theme in the news today and of late, it is all about contracts. We have been told contracts are being paid. Also at 1:1. We have been told more contracts will be public and to watch close.

Well, if your seeing the meetings with USA, Jordan, UAE, SA, Turkey, etc., it is easy to see the foundation was laid months ago. Just look at this line up of companies, etc below. Keep in mind the Iraqi Trade Bank singed a deal with GE for power in Nov 27th real close, as well and was said to be more in the coming months.

Today, there is another article supporting the funds through the World bank from the KW conference in the billions is activated or in place and ready to go.

This is seriously the showing of the results from last year. The highest of Lands showing up in Iraq.. All about the money.. They know as well as we do.. It is going to flow! imo ~ MM "

The US Chamber of Commerce has since told us this about on their recent meetings~ MM:

KingofMLEZ » January 14th, 2018

Sorry to sound dumb but i don't remember what is TWINNING???

Chppy86 » January 14th, 2018

A process where banks exchange information and trade wires, exchanges transaction back and forth to ensure they communicate and processes, transactions are on the same page as the other. IMO

MilitiaMan » January 14th, 2018

Here is a report on the matter. It also is known as mirroring. "" ~ MM
http://siteresources.worldbank.....G04-85.pdf

Iggy » January 14th, 2018

The Paris Club is an informal group of official creditors whose role is to find coordinated and sustainable solutions to the payment difficulties experienced by debtor countries. As debtor countries undertake reforms to stabilize and restore their macroeconomic and financial situation, Paris Club creditors provide an appropriate debt treatment.

Clare » January 14th, 2018

Daytrader brought this link in chat...

http://siteresources.worldbank.....G04-85.pdf

Definitions and Practices

Twinning is perceived and practiced by aid organizations in a variety of ways. The World Bank, for example, defines twinning as a “process that pairs an organizational entity in a developing country with a similar but more mature entity in another country,” and recognizes the method as one of its four primary technical assistance delivery modes, along with long-term advisors, short-term advisors, and training.

The Bank uses twinning to transfer relevant operational knowledge between two organizations similar in function and structure. The European Community (EC) has employed numerous twinning projects since 1998 to facilitate the accession process for countries that wish to join the European Union (EU). Twinning takes the form of the secondment of EU experts for over a year, with a combination of other arrangements such as short-term missions, training, and specific technical services (computer and translation).

Main Features and Issues of Twinning

Distinctive features of twinning arrangements are that they:

(a) are an institution-to institution relationship, based on partnership between two organizations;

(b) achieve sustainable organizational capacity building;

(c) are based on long-term cooperation that continues after project completion;

(d) are highly flexible and can change according to need;

(e) use various modes of activity to ensure sustainability; and

(f) carry a notion of learning.

Key issues to consider when twinning is employed are:

(a) the selection of appropriate partners; and

(b) the design of the arrangement and relationship.

Twinning is more likely to be successful when the following elements exist:

(a) commitment of the parties;

(b) a high level of competence and flexibility on behalf of the supplier;

(c) feasibility of designated tasks;

(d) periodic follow-ups after project completion; and

(e) positive work relationships.

More reading:
https://ec.europa.eu/neighbourhood-enlargement/sites/near/files/twinning-manual-revision-2017-final-updated-09-08.pdf

KTFA CC w/ Frank26, DELTA Highlights by Clare 11/5/18

KTFA

Clare » November 6th, 2018

GREAT CC!!! THANKS FRANK, WALKINGSTICK, DELTA & TEAMS!!!!

Happy 10 YEAR Anniversary Frank & Tink!!! We love you!!!

--POTUS Punishing Iran & their currency to bring them into compliance ..to get into a ME Basket...

--This idea has been in process all of 2018...Crescendo now with the need of the RI ...

--Iraq Social Media Hot right now... Reassuring Citizens, still going to lift the 3 zeros ...

--Iran has Dinars...it looks like Iran is forcing Iraq to revalue their currency, with it's demand of payment for Electricity...either 1 trillion Dinar, or 1 Billion Dollars... just RI Iraq!!!!

--Interesting reason behind Paris Club Reduction...60% of Paris Club debt has been reduced...given reduction, for the RI of IQD!

--RI is fact occurring @ 1-1

--Reduction will help with RV next year, the same way the ME Basket solidly formed will help the RV in 2019...it's a precursor... they are telling Iraq, go ahead join the international community...

--Alak will be named Gov. of CBI...comes from powerful, influential family...but not popular...BUT.. the best of the worst...

--A lot of comments on CBI social media....would be nice to have official announcement of Alak, its a precursor, then ART 2 …

Art 2 is Coming!!! They are educating the citizens … looks good for November.

Don Article Post #12.."Thanks to Trump, the Entire Mideast Now Knows: You're Either With America, or Against Us" You and teams called it Frank!

Thanks Don, Samson & JJ and all Admins!

This CC is in Frank's opinion & this post is in my opinion.

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Monday Night KTFA CC 11-5-18

The first part is business Promo and the second part is Dinar/Iraq Intel

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Samson » November 6th, 2018

Designing Public Financial Management Reform in Iraq

5th November, 2018

Designing a Successful Approach to Public Financial Management Reform in Iraq

The path to recovery and reconstruction in post-conflict Iraq is fraught with pitfalls.

The new government will need to tread carefully if it is to maintain macroeconomic stability and fiscal discipline, while trying to address the urgent needs of citizens through improved service delivery, job creation and protecting security gains.

As a result, there is little doubt that the government will be forced to expand public spending on essential services, re-open the public sector job market to absorb rising unemployment, and continue to invest in the security sector to ensure that the Iraqi Security Forces are adequately trained and equipped to counter the resurgent threat of terrorism.

Indeed, these necessities will likely be reflected in the 2019 federal budget. The initial draft of the budget that was submitted to cabinet reveals a 23% rise in total spending compared to 2018, while total government revenues are projected to increase by 16% at approximately $90 billion.

The number of budgeted public sector employees will also expand by 46,000 people. Given the higher than expected rise in oil prices, it seems that austerity measures will be relaxed to some extent.

Iraq will likely end this year on a budget surplus. The country is now generating nearly $8 billion in oil revenues each month, compared to just over $2 billion in January 2016.According to Ministry of Finance data, a budget surplus of $12.6 billion was achieved by the end of July 2018 and if current trends continue, the surplus could exceed $24 billion by the end of the year LINK

Please click here to download full report - http://www.bayancenter.org/en/.....9899.pdf

Integrity returns to the state a property of seven billion dinars and adjust its false priorities

6th November, 2018

The Investigation Department of the Integrity Commission revealed on Tuesday that the staff of the Karbala investigation office in the Authority were able to detect fraud and fraud in the transfer of ownership of a property of 18 dunums and 1417 meters.

In a statement received by Mawazine News, the department said that the Karbala investigation team conducted extensive investigations and investigations, including the Property Claims Commission, the Agriculture Directorate, the State Real Estate Department and the Real Estate Registry in Karbala. Of the defendants who claimed to buy the property through a mock auction with a false letter allegedly issued by the Department of State Real Estate in the province.

She pointed out that "the estimated value of the property amounted to (6,905,500,000) billion dinars, and that the seizure was based on a judicial note."

The department added that "the Karbala investigation office in the Integrity Commission handed over the property to the State Property Department in the province; pursuant to the decision of the judge of the Karbala Investigation Court to consider the cases of integrity, indicating that the judicial decision ensures that the Chamber will initiate a cancellation action against the beneficiaries.

It is worth mentioning that the estimated value of properties that the Authority was able to re-state ownership in the province of Karbala during the current year amounted to more than (230 billion) billion dinars. LINK

US “to Grant Iraq Waiver over Iran Sanctions”

6th November, 2018

The United States has told Iraq that it will be allowed to keep importing crucial gas, energy supplies and food items from Iran after Washington reimposes sanctions on Tehran’s oil sector, three Iraqi officials said.

The waiver is conditional on Iraq not paying Iran for the imports in US dollars, said the officials, who included a member of Iraq’s ministerial committee that oversees energy activities, Reuters reported. The US sanctions take effect on Nov. 4.

The ministerial committee official said Iraq’s finance ministry had set up an account with a state-run bank where Baghdad would deposit in Iraqi dinars the amounts owed to Iran for the imports.

Central bank officials said in August that Iraq’s economy is so closely linked to Iran that Baghdad would ask Washington for permission to ignore some US sanctions. Iraq imports crucial supplies from its neighbor including gas for power stations. LINK

Oil prices fall due to Iran sanctions exceptions and economic concerns

6th November, 2018

Oil prices tumbled on Tuesday on the back of exceptions from sanctions Washington gave to allow Iran's biggest buyer to continue importing from Tehran as well as concerns about an economic slowdown that could curb fuel demand growth

At 0653 GMT, US crude futures at $ 62.90 a barrel were down 20 cents, or 0.3 percent, from the previous settlement

Brent crude fell 47 cents, or 0.6 percent, to $ 72.70 a barrel

Analysts said expectations of an economic slowdown in the coming months had a negative impact on fuel demand estimates as supply worries eased after Washington granted exemptions to eight Iranian oil importers to allow them to continue buying

"15 Reasons USN Stories Are Great News!" - One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. aka Swervy McGee

15 Reasons USN Stories Are GREAT NEWS!



[size=16]Re-posted (5-29-17) by request of One Who Knows[/size][size=16]/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. aka Swervy McGee

 I have been seeing some USN stories lately and it is a CLEAR sign to me that EVERYTHING we want is right on schedule. The USN is the new Gold Backed currency of the Republic. Here is the latest news on the USN:

"Bank intel, USN" by Geoffrey - 2.25.17

It is so interesting that we are looking for clues all over the place to verify that this top secret World Change over is both REAL and immanent, and yet one single item actually PROVES EVERYTHING! Yes, as the title of this post reveals, it is the USN that tells the whole story and is all the proof we need, that we are actually on track to everything we have been told and promised. Here is how...

#1) USN Means Gold Backed

The fact that the USN has been acknowledged by Banking personnel as well as many others, is PROOF that the New Gold Backed Money is really coming.

#2) Gold Backed Means The World

The fact that there really is new USA Gold Backed Money coming means that all the other countries of the World are going Gold Backed as well since there is no way that we would be the only ones changing.

#3) The World Going Gold Backed Means Equality

If all the countries of the World are Going Gold Backed as well, it only works if their currency values are adjusted to be on par with each other.

#4) World Currencies On Par With Each Other

Having all the World's currencies being adjusted to be on par with each other means that those countries who's currency values are greatly undervalued compared to everyone else are going to be adjusted up, WAY UP, to be on par with the other countries. That MEANS THE GCR IS REAL.

#5) If The GCR is REAL

If the GCR is Real, then anyone who happens to be holding currencies that are greatly undervalued, such as the first basket currencies, will realize a HUGE increase in value when said adjustment happens.

#6) No Double Dipping

Because there is an all go, or none go and a deliberate plan to prevent Double dipping, by reinvesting money from one currency revaluation on the next currency revaluation, they will all go at once. Since all the currencies will go at once, that means that THEY WILL ALL GO, and none of them will be left behind.

#7) Stories of The USN Means Treasury Money

Stories of the USN MEANS that it is our new Treasury that is issuing the money. This means that not only is the Fed Dead, but that the REPUBLIC is Alive!

#8) The Republic Alive Means NESARA

The fact that the Republic is alive and in the process of showing itself, means that NESARA, the new governmental structures are also in the Process as well, since the Republic is based on the new NESARA Principles.

#9) NESARA Means GESARA

The fact that NESARA is coming into action here in the Republic of the United States, means that soon the World will be changing over to GESARA, which is the global version of this same governmental structure and principles.

#10) GESARA Means World Peace

Since GESARA is Coming in to Power all over the World, that means that the World will be at peace from now on and War will no longer be permitted or tolerated by any country in the World.

#11) GESARA & World Peace

GESARA and World Peace also signals multiple trusts that will start paying out Trillions of dollars in many different forms to all the people of the World. These include huge trusts such as the St. Germaine Trust, The Lee Wanta Trust, and many others.

#12) NESARA & GESARA Means New Technologies Released

Another important aspect of the NESARA & GESARA implementation is the release of hidden technologies and health remedies that have been held back by the Cabal. This leads to such things as immediate cures for most medical problems and introduction of free energy devices and anti gravity craft to name a few.

#13) NESARA Means Top Level Arrests & Trials Begin

Another important aspect of the NESARA implementation is the immediate arrests of top Cabal operatives, resignation of all current political positions, and new elections for President and other positions. It also means the resignation from the BAR of all attorneys' and retraining them in Constitutional law.

#14) Bank Awareness Of The USN Means Immanent GCR

The fact that Bank employees are aware of, and acknowledge the USN, means that they have been trained on it, and will be available soon. Additionally, many claim it is in their vaults now and will be released soon.

#15) USN Availability Means CGR

There is no way that the GOLD Backed USN can be distributed, unless the GCR has already happened. If the USN is about to be available, that means the GCR is about to happen.


The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that while USN reports and stories seem to be of little value, they actually PROVE EVERYTHING IS TRUE AND ABOUT TO HAPPEN. The USN availability means World Gold Back GCR, NESARA/GESARA, World Peace, New Technologies and Health remedies, High Level Cabal Arrests and Trials, New Elections, and the Release of countless Trust to the people of the World. In short, when you have Proof of the USN, you have proof of EVERYTHING!

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams

Signed: One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. aka Swervy McGee
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Richard Lee McKim, Jr. (One Who Knows) 10 GCR Points To Remember 4/26/17

10 GCR Points To Remember

This post is a refresher of what to expect in the coming GCR.  There is a lot upon us and sometimes it gets confusing.

GCR

#1) First Basket Currencies will All Revalue at the same time.  When one revalues, they all revalue as well.  There will be no opportunity to exchange one and then buy more of the other.

#2) All Denominations of the first Basket Currencies will be Honored.  This means every size bill, will be exchangeable.  This is especially important to know for the ZIM.  Importantly, no zeros will be loped of any notes.  They will be accepted at face value for exchange, at the rate you agree on.

#3) The Zim "Bearer Checks" will be honored and exchanged even though they have expired.

#4) If you have Zim, you will have a DIFFERENT exchange Procedure that includes exchanging at offsite locations, Including military bases, but not limited to them.

#5) Yes, the zim has a special phone number/ account relationship, but don’t worry, your money is actually in Trusts for added protection and "Trusts" have names and not numbers.  The phone number you call to set the appointment, is part of your account info with the bank, but not directly associated with any particular money account.  In short it identifies you, like your name identifies you to the bank when you call.


#6) You will not be allowed to bring any electronic items into the exchange such as phone, tablet, computers, calculators, etc.  Therefore, have a sheet of paper (Master Sheet)  that has all your important information written on it, such as Trust names, address, questions you want to ask, etc.,  for easy reference.

#7)  Bring whatever ID you have, bills, passports, DL, ss card, Birth Certificate, photo IDs etc.  Some people will have all the IDs they need, and others may not, but all will be helped anyway.  Remember that this is a benevolent plan and they realize that some may not have the IDs they need.  The bank will work with you on that.

#8)  All countries will have exchanges and will have the "Privately Negotiated Rates" available as well, especially for humanitarian projects.

#9)  Banks are NOW the safest place in the World to keep your money.  Trust the banks, and trust the plan.

#10)  HSBC is the main GCR Bank and will eventually have retail branches everywhere.  Just because there is no branch near you now, doesn't mean you can't exchange with them and get an account with them.  They will be represented at the Exchange centers, especially for the ZIM.

Bonus:

#11) You should call as soon as possible for your appointment, but once you call, you can set an appointment at a time that works for you. You might have a delay due to travel, work, medical, etc.  Set the time to go IN for your appointment.  I expect that there will be several days or more to call the first number.

#12) Historical Bonds can be redeemed.  Tell the operator what you have (Not amount) when you call the first appointment contact number.

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams/Plans

Signed: One Who Knows

Dave Schmidt - Private Exchange Status

The update for December 14 was very brief.  Dave said nothing was happening in Reno, but in Hong Kong, some of the very top Elders did get paid.  This is a new one, so it becomes #12. 

1) stuff is moving (4 times)
2) we're very close (2 times)
2) funds are moving
4) something about paymasters
5) The cabal is not yet neutered
6) There is good news, but I am not at liberty to disclose it
7) The banks are not yet safe enough
8) The bank was hacked and codes were changed
9) The SWIFT system is still vulnerable
10) OOM lady messed it up
11) HSBC is taking over from Wells Fargo
12) Some of the very top Elders in Hong Kong did get paid

Round One of this private exchange has over 15,000 people in it and has now been in a holding pattern for over 18 months.  Dave is not the organizer of Round One, he is a participant.  Dave says it will take "scores of trillions" to fund Round One and the money will come from some very large trusts.

Dave reports that there are about 12,500 people on his private exchange list which he calls Round Two.  These folks are waiting for Round One to be funded before they will be able to submit their paperwork and currencies.

Intel highlights from The Big Call Thursday Night 5-19-16

Bruce/Sue - God is the light in everything that you create

Bruce - We are jumping into a new life this weekend. Adopt new habits

14- all is well, and thank you to all intel providers. a whole list of people that I want to shout out to...
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Bruce #14 - All is Well. Thank you intel providers. There are so many! Christopher Watkins (the actor?? - his voice sounds familiar)

josef--- if you don't think we have lost it after so many calls, I am going to go to the corner to sell bananas.... we have gone bonkers

Yosef - if they don't RV this weekend, I will sell bananas on the street. I'm also selling my currency!! LOL!!

Bruce tried to impersonate Marlon Brando and now Inspector Clouseau

josef- someone needs to pray us out, we are getting ridiculous

Bruce/Yosef - help as many people as you can. Do your part

Bruce - hope to celebrate on Tuesday

Bruce - looking forward to a great weekend

Bruce - Pastor Steven closing prayer

Chat From Generals64. Dinar Guru's still carry on the tradition?

The Generals64 Group claims that they don't do "Rates & Dates", but here is a thread that says otherwise. Do you see all the hype that the other Guru's are still using today?

Posted 22 March 2012 - 09:02 PM

[size=16][generals64] ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:...Hang on to your seats as you're going to get it all right here and now...CAn you REally Handle it??????



[generals64] #1. Wells Fargo America as agreed to work with the Iraqi Dinar when it happens...confirmations from all over the United States....

[generals64] #2....$6.38 has been on the screens at Chase bank for 2 Weeks...I wouldn't and I couldn't tell you guys as i want to make sure of what it is...it's is called a "Marker" number....Was there this morning at *;00 my time (CST)...then went 1`- 1 per the Programmer we talk with. every dang day.

[generals64] #3. Lady LeeLee is the same one that put a voice commanded typo on one of our sources and didn't tell him and we hadn't verified it and she said oh, I'm sorry I just told my friends...I... amd...NOT her friend and I got a copy of it...I was livid and asked to be quiet

[generals64] #4....This morning...TODAY...we talked to dinar UK and the CBi (before they closed....if you want the ladies name let me know....you can't handle it folks...They said it ain't a happeneing for some time...Iraq has NOT released it yet.

[generals64] #5.....The rates of 23.10 to 3.68 are everywhere and No a single Swinging soul knows it...No one as it has to be calculated through the asset division for their currency value....Go figure

[generals64] #6. I told someone everything I had heard two days ago (In Confidence) his story was my family is leaving me blah blah blah...Yesterday Hammerman Printed everything word for word....

[generals64] #7...Today...same person...same scenario....Folks...I don't tell all I hear cause it would make your life crumble. Our sources are real and not a bunch of old men scratching themselves in places they shouldn't....I have busted my Ass to make this be right but I', beginning to feel like SteveI when he got tired of being bashed on his own site.

[generals64] #8....Leave Studley alone...he is trying with all his heart...he too makes mistakes ...I know no one else does...But, if you keep listening to their "Junk"...you're going to be Broke...One of the providers has 17,000 emails attached to his IP address...wonder why????

[generals64] #9...this is so dang stupid...following puppy dogs...these people come on,. they tell you a good story and bam they are the messiah and then another comes and then Bam...I do not have to have this to make a living as I have already made mine....I want it to happen just like you do but come on....

[generals64] #10...No Whales cashing out anywhere...NOTICE NONE anywhere....I have been invited to go and have yet to even see the people...Names don't need to be told as they and you know who they are....

[generals64] #11. If you want story book rhymes...go to the library and throw the dinar in the trash....If you want to know the truth then study it...Don't count on ANYONE to handle your investments period...Never in Life....

[generals64] #12. This site and its owner has been the most level during this whole thing....I had a bad thing happen to me when the shout room was here...I then got my cell phone hacked (along with kcmana) but caught that fool...he is one of the gurus yopu all follow...Remember this,....i have so many friends from years past in the three letter agencies that you couldn't begin to imagine...Those giving me a hard time need to be careful with what they post as from now on all bets are off...and it will all be told straight up in this room unless Cool Clown Fish kicks me off and bans me...

[generals64] #13....Hammerman's Father asked me to cut him some slack as he was afraid it was afeecting him personally...Hammerman told me one night he had told some lies but he felt it was his responsibility to keep the rooms level and calm...

[generals64] #14....Now...when is theis going to happen...I was told this morning at 10:00 am...it didn't...I was told at 2:00 pm....it didn't...I was told whales all over the country had been called by Wells Fargo...they weren't...what else do you want to knwop cause tonight I'll tell you all I know and it is not pretty folks....

[generals64] The banking deal we have been working on is with Wells Fargo...We talk EVERY DAY...they are ready and are willing to make us a deal that will scald your grandkids....they want the business...My girls waNT NOTHING AND IF I were treated the way they have been I would have told everyone to kiss my backside......If you treat your friends (you know who I'm talking to) this way then I don't need you and you (you know who you are) will be the last person in the world to cash your dinar out...Promise...I have held my integrity to the highest until tonight...but tonight folks...ask your questions

[generals64] I am Generals64 and I approve this message.

[generals64] If you guys will stop the board and don't pm me...I am calming down but, I'll answer them all...and, i am a big boy...but I am really upset...Guys/Gals...we need to financially help CCF with this site....one way or the other..

[generals64] Fireproof:...Look...I have held the closet I can to keep from telling the BS...Even Bookings will tell you guys that....The truth is not known by anyone...I mean NO one...

[generals64] MAVERICK :...yes it would...some can do more...some can't do any....If we could actually stop the board one question at a time I'll really explain it all

Q & A Session:
[Cheesehead] generals64 SO from what you posted... It ain't happening for a while... because you said that you heard Iraq has not released... So when do you think sir?
[generals64] Cheesehead Cheesehead Cheesehead :...the CBI told us yesterday they were upset with the us as they (USA) were making their country look bad...and that they had nothing to do with it...WE Called the CBI FOLKS for you....then this morning we called a lady with dinar UK (Lori) and she said it was completely in the hands of the UST...She then told us that as long as there were auctions they would not be RV'ing....However...Lori (same lady ) said yesteday that they were expecting this to happen any time now.................Truth I'll give you their phone numbers...The guy at the CBI was put on a three way call

[mammat] ok....It was posted that Studley had already negotiated with WF at cbi +2. What happened
[generals64] mammat;...Studley is a good guy...I have already growled at him as he is talking too much ...there are people who expect everything said to be true....Actually, we (studley) 10%...he then said a dollar but He told me he was working for the entire Bank Spread....for Everyone....Everyone is EVERYONE in and on every site...There was a rumor about him a couple of days ago and I got on him pretty hard and he came back pretty hard...The guy who had him invetigated called and apologized...people make mistakes...The rate we heard today/tonite...23.10 govt. gets $5.00 and the bank gets $2.00 and we get the rest...I also heard $14.38 was showing on Chase bank Screen...No One knows so don't listen to it....I trust Studley until he proves me wrong...Anyone with a Great Dane named "FIfi" is OK in my books.

[joyjoyjoyjoy] Hi and THANK you! Can you tell me how cash-in groups work? Does everyone physically come to the bank at the same time? If so, what security measures would/should be taken? Sure appreciate your caring spirit!
[CoolClownFish] You will not be going to the bank with anyone else. you simply tell them who you are your with this group and your name and you can cash in at the predetermiled rate with that package.
8:33 PM [CoolClownFish] answered that one for ya

[MAVERICK] this is for General , my question is if your that connected then why cant you give us a proximate rate and day , or what is really going on
8:35 PM [generals64] Real Hold up????...I was told it was our Treasury department...First...no Gag orders anywhere...the Ust people laugh everytime I say that....as a matter of fact that's their standing joke.....The guy at Chase told us that everyday at 1:59 the 6.38 rate on the IQD goes back to Zero....Today he told us he was unable to even get to the screens until 3:00 pm...EST...Kinda Strange....The people in CHINA we are talking with said this should have been done 4 weeks ago....I can't figure it out and they can't figure it out...There were some Virus's found up to about 2 weeks ago but they are fixed

[gr8teth] What is the % possibility of the rv going to our elections in Nov?
8:35 PM [generals64] Rumor and Rumor only...We could see this tomorrow...Maybe with me blowing up something will be done.
8:36 PM [generals64] gr8th:...no way

[ZMAN2011] any truth to the statement that the U S is being punidhed for the hold up by being forced to pour in moneo from threasury to reach rate levels? ty
[generals64] ZMAN2011 :...I heard that but just before I found out I had been betrayed and I haven't check it out

[eleanor] generals64 I think the timing is more important to us all than the rate could you elaborate on your statement of it not happening for a while?
[generals64] Precious (elanor)....the entire thing should have happened this country seems to need the money...However, I was really told the whole thing was outta IRAQs hand...and in the hands of the IMF...The IMF has signed off and released it is what i was told...and folks this person is too wel connected...and he might see this so I can't say.

(bookings) generals can you confirm what I hjeard that the rv is happening tonight and the rate is $22.00

8:40 PM [generals64] bookings...i have heard the $22.00 and the 23.10 and the $6.38 and the 14.38 and teh $1236 rate for days...I told you that....But I don't know about it happeneing tomorrow..I sure hope so...YOU bookings know I talk with a Wealth mangement person with Wells Fargo almost everyday....and she is not seeing anything...Folks,...she is sharp as a tack

[beachdreaming] i would like to know if Geitner or Obama is truly holding it back.. who can force them to get it done?
[generals64] beachdreaming...I really think it is Roscoe cause he only got 7 milkbones to 1...No, I don't think it is O or Giethner....this is more than that.

[generals64] I'm not sure about the intent that has come forward and said We (I) are fluffing our feathers etc....just for the klnowledge in this room a...and i am going to be flogged by kcmand and 4th time...But, We have over 3 Tillion dinar to work with...do you think we carry a big enough stick...that is with a T folks...not aB orM


[eleanor] How can we help you, phone calls, moniterr sites, emails, whatever?
[generals64] dlenor...the people we deal with used to trust the other GURUS and other site leaders...they hav ebeen burned so bad they won't talk with anyone...this room has had a bad name of Bashers jumping on people andalso everything said comes in here and people think its true...Think about it...do you really believe some other GURU has a 747 on the Tarmac Idling?

[Javabean] If the rate is 22 and the gov gets 5 and banks get 2, then will we still have to pay taxes or will the gov's % be enough for them??

[generals64] javabean...i have heard so many reports on taxes...it cost $2,500.00 to gt a written ruling from the IRS on this...My personal Tax attorney is $850.00 an hour (he's good) and I don't want to spend the money yet

[LINDI] Is it possible that the Bush family is holding this back?
[generals64] no on the Bushes holding it back...

[Lojack6T] Isnt it possible its just being held up for maximum impact to benefit Iraq during the arab summit and the rest is just a conspiracy theory?
[generals64] Lojack6T;...I think we could see it quickly...I will never give a date or rate...but today so much Smoke was pumped out and everyone fell for it...EVEN I did...

[texanone67] question...does this mean no toaster?
[generals64] I am going to have more toasters tahn Wal-Mart

[Shabibi] How much of all this might just be a bunch of BS and smoke? Not really sure what started this rant and speaking of the truth but I like it!
[generals64] Shabiibi;..ther is NO BS in what I tell you or anyone else...You ahve come at me hard more than once and that is why I don't answer your foolish and mundane questions...By the way Thursday is my favorite day...Why because I met my wife on a Thursdy.Now Dude,...What have you got?...if nothing then sit back and joiin the team or leave the site...
[generals64] Shabibi :..i'm sorry..I am so upset over what has happened and what is being said to the people of this ivestment and please accept myy apology...i was out of line

[righteouswrath] Generals 64... Tex said that you were going to wear a speedo and Roscoe was wearing sunglasses to the barbeque... is that true?
[generals64] Precious :...if that will bring the RV fastr I'll do it..it ain't going to be pretty

[joyjoyjoyjoy] General Thank you for your caring spirit!! Wish you'd tell who betrayed you so we can get 'em for ya! Honestly I would like to know so I don't take stock in what they're saying if posted. Thx for all you share!! You're one of the good guys in my book.
[generals64] My phones are blowing up....I have taken my Blood pressure medicvine and Roscoe is sleeping right now....You guys ask who betrayed you....They know who they are as they are in the room right now....Aren't you dude/

[generals64] I was to have gone to Dallas and cash out cause I too am an Oklahoma SOONERFAN...but he today won't return my calls....Did you know Blaino and Hammerman were banned from other sites?...did you know Blaino Bragged about hacking Okies name...Did you know he laughed about hacking Foghorn's name...hmmm...I have a short call give me a second...hopefully it will answer some stuff...hold on

[generals64] and hey guys/Gals lojack6T is NOT lojak...He is a friend of the family.

[Shabibi] So of all the other "gurus" who share info who would you trust most and who the least to give us a bearing on how to look at their info
[generals64] shabibi:...I owe you this one....Gurus?hmmmm Hmmmm BWM/Tex/Cap1....Studley..Wileymorgan...(really)....Freeway Bill...and SteveI
[generals64] Shabibi:...Dan and Tony seem to be trying real hard now...i don't believe in conspiiracy theorys from anyone and hard to reacll is a good...good friend of mine...

[whitfi10] Was there a call earlier? Generals64 do you host calls? Just wondering if calls really accomish anything?
[generals64] whitfi10 :...calls don't do anything but add fodder to the fire...No one has been 100% right yet....

[generals64] Folks....the Thing that bothers me a lot is the is no one or any law that requires my two gitrls to do anything for anyone...


[generals64] real good call...
[generals64] Precious ;...could be even beter
[generals64] arabic is bad for me
[generals64] still on

[generals64] OK...Wiley morgan has some dude from Iraq who is so dang excited aboaut something neither one of us can understand him...He is trying to get a translator and will let me know if he does....Wiley did two or three tours over there remember that....

[generals64] Guys/Gals;;;;;Please fogive my antics...Drama is not much of my life and I apologize only to this room as this seems to be family...Some one just told me something I had told him and it hit me right between the eyes...."We can save em all and we can help only those that will let us..."...I hope you are one of them as my heart goes to all of you even the Jerk that used me....But, i want to apologize for my actions as they were uncalled for but, from now on you guys get it all up front...

[generals64] I thought I had more class and integrity than I showed tonight....

[FIREPROOF] generals64 we thank you... but be prepared for the rats to take it to recaps.... it will eventually end up there.
[generals64] FIREPROOF :..it will cause so much dissention...they can find me...I know where they are.

[generals64] the bank deal we have is a good one...Good enough johnny asked if he could be on it....HmmmmmmmOur bankers talk to us anytime we need tpo..

[Austin-Powers-For-PM] generals64 So if I understand you correctly, your CBI contact is saying to forget about an RV anytime soon. Correct?
[generals64] Austin-Powers-For-PM :...I don't have a contact at the CBI...We called them on the phone and one day it was ready the next day..no no...so who knows????

[generals64] if you guys get a chance...and he'll talk....live4the brand knows a lot also

[generals64] you guys...Betrayal and just from not verifying it cost me my sanity for a few minutes...maybe hours...i need a beer.

[Shabibi] generals64 Sanity is over rated..beer is rated MUCH higher!
[generals64] Shabibi :...yep...

[Mauiboy] generals64: Only one??? LOL!!!
[generals64] Mauiboy :I don't drink

[eleanor] generals64 btw what brand of beer do you drink?
[generals64] eleanor :...that is Kidney stone medicine but it is Bud Light

[generals64] If you can stop the site I'll explain what we have been doing on the banking situation...it's really very simple

[generals64] the banks want all your money...All...they really just want you and i to get a reasonable amount and they get the rest...Studley adn 4th time are working with Wells Fargo...Wells Fargo wants the numbers we have so, they seemed to desire to give us all they legally can...so what the names and such was for was to give the bank so they could logistically put things together and service us the best way possible...for instance No WF in Oklahoma....I was offered a free airplane ticket to a de larue machine...No, I'll go to Texas>...Studley and his business partner are and have been working on this for some time...they are financial people...me, I'm a dime Store Manager.....

[generals64] What should happen is (hypothetical only )...say it happened tonight...if you went to the bank right now you would get the tellers rate and a thank you very much....But, We have this so close to being finished...girls are real good and so is 4th time and OKCBulldog and .live 4the brand....that we can push our button and send them names etc.,,,they can in turn issue a code that you as a MIG Dinar Holder can go to the Private Wealth person and tell them what you waNT And who you are...they will recognize the code number and your name...If you give the code to your cousin Billy Bob and he is not on the list he will be sent over to the teller and get the teller rate....Now, the beter rate is within their Private banker division...there is a certain dollar (USD) value that you must deposit...probably everyone in here is qualified...Even Roscoe is....then they do the paperwork which you probably haven't done and send you to the teller with your code and an appointment to discuss your wealth management...

[generals64] Make the appointment folks and go to it....if you think you are smarter than these people in finances your probably wrong....they are licesenced adn avialbe...there are programs taht you can get involved with like the rich boys are and let your money work for you...so that you don't have to work for money...does that make sense???and, it's that simple...but, without your name and the code number you'll not get the extra...nothing big and EVERYONE should be treated the same..don't you think????and, me and my group of kids are not making anything on it period...but i sure would like a new toaster....ask the other sites to tell you what they have in store...Oh yeah the other banks will follow suit...they want your money ...study Fractional Banking and you'll see.

[generals64] Fractional banking...????? Google it...get a case of beer and start reading..you'll still not understand it but you'll have fun trying...

[wisegrysqrl1] generals64 when you say our name do you mean our screen name or our real name?
[generals64] wisegrysqrl1 ;...they won't take your screen name on a deposit slip...Promise you that...

[joyjoyjoyjoy] generals64 Are you saying we'll get the same rates Studley is working on? Are bank packages the same thing as group cash-ins? Still unclear on that. thx!
[generals64] joyjoyjoyjoy :...Studley is doing the stuff for us....I talk with him e

[king] Generals64 do u believe a14. Rate could exist IYO ?????????????????????
[generals64] king yes

[Florida] Shabibi Yup. But I thought fractional banking was going away with the new Basel III... anybody know?
[generals64] Florida Fracational Banking is a way of life....the banks are able to sell their deposits nightly with it...your money never stops being used...24 hours a day and 365 days a year

[generals64] I promise not to blow up like that agin folks...not my style....even embrssed to myself right now...When you get over 150 calls aday and about 35 of them daily are smart aleck pranks...your tension is developed

[wisegrysqrl1] generals64 were you saying no Rv anytime soon earlier?
[generals64] wisegrysqrl1 :...ask me that tomorrow night[/size]




[size=16][generals64] If you guys will do what I made texanone67 do you'll be a little less stressed.....take the dustiest book in your house (The Bible to some of you) and read and live John 19:20....you'll thank me many times as she has....Promise from the bottom and depth of my heart....I had a guy tell me to listen and find the darkest part of your heart and liten to what God says at that point.....I did, and I have....this same guy was a convicted Morderer and doing life....and from nowhere paroled...He died of cance a while bak...miss him a lot...[/size]

39 Signs the Global Elite’s Ship is Sinking

39 Signs the Global Elite’s Ship is Sinking

Let’s take a look at some of the major stories that have occurred in the last few months. Piecing the puzzle together, we see that the jig is up and the events surrounding it are growing in size and speed.




3rd October 2015

The Final Word

This revolution WILL NOT be televised.


http://wakeup-world.com/2015/10/03/39-signs-the-global-elites-ship-is-sinking/