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my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 08:09:47 AM »
My brother reconnected with a female friend from grade school about 9 months ago and they are going to get married in May 2018. She is a nice girl with a good heart. However, she is really excited about the Iraqi Dinar RV (re-evaluation) that is going to happen within the next 3-6 months (according to her). 

She pretty much brain washed my brother into buying into this idea. My brother has a 4 year degree in Business Entrepreneurship. He is all about the high risk and high reward type of thing. He tried and failed a few MLM businesses over the last 5-10 years. She graduated high school. They are both 36. 

However, this type of business scheme is a little bit of a stretch for my brother, but not entirely uncommon. 

My brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my birthday last June and for Christmas. He also bought it for my wife and 1 year old son. We have about 400,000 of Iraqi Dinar, which I think is about 325 US dollars. He is giving me a hard sell to buy some for myself or I could miss out on some big profits of 100 to 1, when it re-evaluates. 
 
The best article I could find out about it is below. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jayadkisson/2012/07/30/you-cant-fix-stupid-the-iraqi-dinar-scam-lives/#3f398ae3150b

1) Any chance that I could politely tell my brother to stop buying me this crap?

2) Any chance that I could politely tell my brother to stop buying it for himself? 

3) How do the sellers make money? Do they just give the buyer a poor exchange rate?

4) What is the best way to convert my Iraqi Dinar back into US currency? 

Thank you.
« [i]Last Edit: December 27, 2017, 01:35:31 PM by clarkfan1979[/i] »



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #1 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 12:32:17 PM »
Good luck getting him to change his mind...

As for converting them to US dollars, ask your bank/credit union. There is usually one bank in the area that specializes in currency. In my area (Salt Lake City) it is Zion’s Bank. Call first. 

Good Luck




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #2 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM »
Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?

That not being the case, here's my thinking, for what it's worth (which should be very little, since, as admitted above, I have zero familiarity with the topic): If there's even a small chance of the "100 to 1" valuation, why not hold onto the stuff for now, just for fun? 

As for your questions:

1) Good luck with that. Forbes is well-known and as far as I know has a good reputation; could you send him that article?

2) See (1) above.

3 & 4) No effing clue. 



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #3 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:22:33 PM »
So when the Iraqis lop off a couple of zeroes off the currency, you'll basically be left with monopoly money.

The old banknotes obviously cease to be legal tender, with new ones issued in replacement.

People are still falling for Zimbabwe money scams. Looks like the scammers are expanding their repertoire...



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #4 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:37:20 PM »
Quote from: Miss Piggy on December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM

Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?

That not being the case, here's my thinking, for what it's worth (which should be very little, since, as admitted above, I have zero familiarity with the topic): If there's even a small chance of the "100 to 1" valuation, why not hold onto the stuff for now, just for fun? 

As for your questions:

1) Good luck with that. Forbes is well-known and as far as I know has a good reputation; could you send him that article?

2) See (1) above.

3 & 4) No effing clue. 




I modified the topic. Thank you for the suggestion.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #5 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 01:59:24 PM »
On a side note, don't lend them money, and don't let them know how much you have. Just in case.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #6 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 02:07:08 PM »
Oh, the glorious Christmas gift of ENTERTAINMENT!   ClarkFan1979, so sorry you had to be the conduit for this pile of chuckles.  At least he is giving to you, not (so far) trying to get you to buy his wares, as so often happens in MLMs.  In my own mind, I will classify him as Kindhearted Bro until further notice.

Re your questions:
1. Of course you can tell him, but why rain on his parade?  He is not going to learn from you, only from experience, if at all.  He will, however, feel the love or disdain in your response.  Tell him you admire his bold spirit, and ask him if he's going to take you to Acapulco or Dubai when his dinars revalue.

2. See 1.  

3. I was wondering that myself.  I can only assume they sell above the exchange rate, or sell counterfeits, or sell the old notes that have been replaced by new ones when the Iraqi government lopped three zeroes off a few years ago (I read that Forbes article).  Best guess: selling the valueless old notes at the price of the new notes.  Great margins, plus they can appear to be giving zero markup.

4. Exchange it for Bitcoin!  Bwahaha, my whole response was just to make this one brief joke.  

Quiet times here, hope this offered a shred of amusement.  In all seriousness, I once had a friend whose financial schemes ranged from wild failure to just being broke on a regular basis.  The choice was to enjoy to his merry ways at the price of observing his failures, or block him off and wonder what was happening.  I chose to enjoy his merry ways.  Even more so, a relative is someone you don't want to block off unless staying connected is actively harmful.  Good luck getting rid of the bills or coins.  And having lost a relative or two in recent year, treasure your brother for who he is, even if it's not (fortunately!!) who you are.   Cheers.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Dinar for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #7 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 02:47:28 PM »
Quote from: Miss Piggy on December 27, 2017, 01:11:14 PM

Did anybody else click this thread thinking the Iraqi Dinar might be some kind of cool foreign kitchen gadget or something else to get excited about?



Yes, huge disappointment. :p

+1 to exchange for Bitcoin.
+1 for being supportive to Kindhearted Bro, who sincerely thinks this will lead to mega riches and wants to share that prospect with you.

Answers to 1 & 2)
Explain that although you support him, you're a much more conservative investor and would prefer index funds instead... or traditional gifts such as clothes, gift cards, gadgets (even if you don't like them/need them it would still be preferable to his MLM stuff).




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #8 on:[/b] December 27, 2017, 04:16:39 PM »
How does everyone NOT know this scam.  This is older than the Nigerian prince scam.  Go convert all that junk into real money.  Tell your brother that's what you did and if he gives you any more, you'll do it again.  Your brother should sell Amway.  Way better chance of making money than with this scam.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #9 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 02:48:45 AM »
I had some left over from Iraq deployments and eventually sold it all on Ebay. 

Ask your brother this... how can he explain the 100 to 1 value increase?  So you're saying an Iraqi could take his dinar and suddenly be 100x richer if he changes it to dollars (after the valuation)?  We're about to be flooded with Iraqi millionaires then. 

Secondly, if it was a real 'investment', then real rich folks would be buying every single dinar they could get their hands on.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #10 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 06:30:38 AM »
If your brother is anything like mine, tell him this is the best idea he’s ever had and you wished you thought of it. Tell him you support him 100% and you’d invest everything you have except you can’t but that he should right away. Cause if your brother is anything like mine, he’ll do the opposite of whatever you tell him and reject all of your advice.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #11 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 07:19:07 AM »
This scam has been going on for almost a decade. 

I have met quite a few people over the years who have tried to get me to "buy in". 

Good luck.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #12 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 08:32:11 AM »
Say thank you for the gift. Turn it into USD and invest it. Leave the issue alone. You are not going to solve your brother's problem.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #13 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 01:29:25 PM »
It's ironic that this is getting posted today. I was listening to NPR this morning and they had a segment on the Iraqi government's estimate on the cost to rebuild the destruction caused by ISIS. Unfortunately, no one is willing to help them finance the reconstruction effort and I imagine the Iraqi dinar will take a bigger hit when the government starts printing more money to rebuild. 

Zimbabwe Dollars though...those have value. I keep a few of those notes around around my MegaCorp office just in case we have a bad quarter in terms of revenue. For some reason my bosses don't seem to derive much comfort from the fact that if we're behind I can give them 10 BILLION DOLLARS!!!1!



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #14 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 01:47:20 PM »
Oh this brings back memories of a nutter I knew a few years ago. I think the north Korean currency is the other one these folks also say is set to explode.  

I suppose it could be entertaining reading.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #15 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 02:28:57 PM »
I bought some when I was deployed in 2004-2005. About $200 worth (250,000 dinar). Last time I checked it's gone up in value to about $210. I suppose that's better than if I had left it in a savings account but had it been in an index fund it would have doubled or tripled since then. I can't recall what the rate of return has been but it's something like 1-2% over 12-13 years.

It was neat to pull it out and show my kids as I had a mix of various bills. That's about it though. It's just a souvenir at this point. Maybe I should sell some of it to your brother?



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #16 on:[/b] December 28, 2017, 06:48:28 PM »
Sell it to your brother Smile




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #17 on:[/b] December 31, 2017, 08:53:21 AM »
Thank you for the help. I will continue to support my brother with his business adventures, but not contribute any of my own money. 
 
I'm going to try to exchange it within the next 2-3 days. Not all currency exchange businesses will exchange the Dinar. I'm guessing there is a higher risk of counterfeit. Hopefully my Dinar is not counterfeit.  I will find out soon. 



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #18 on:[/b] January 06, 2018, 08:52:45 PM »
I exchanged the Iraqi Dinar currency today for US dollars. An internet search today claims that $400,000 Iraqi Dinar is worth $337 US dollars. I went to the currency exchange in Denver at the Cherry Creek mall. They gave me $230 US dollars, minus a $5 fee for a total of $225. I have heard that a currency exchange will change 20%. However, this was a 33% fee. 

Maybe the fee is higher because of a higher level chance of fraud? When I looked at their board of exchange rates it looks like they charged only 15% for more legitimate currencies.



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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #19 on:[/b] January 06, 2018, 10:52:03 PM »
Quote from: clarkfan1979 on January 06, 2018, 08:52:45 PM

I exchanged the Iraqi Dinar currency today for US dollars. An internet search today claims that $400,000 Iraqi Dinar is worth $337 US dollars. I went to the currency exchange in Denver at the Cherry Creek mall. They gave me $230 US dollars, minus a $5 fee for a total of $225. I have heard that a currency exchange will change 20%. However, this was a 33% fee. 

Maybe the fee is higher because of a higher level chance of fraud? When I looked at their board of exchange rates it looks like they charged only 15% for more legitimate currencies.



They'll just be profiting on the currency spread. They might sell that 400,000 dinar to someone for $400 later on. The more common currencies that'll be easier for them to on-sell (and potentially less volatile) will probably have more competitive rates. Smile

I've got some Sri Lankan rupees I've been meaning to sell from when I was there last year. They're valued at 120LKR to the Australian dollar at present (based on xe.com rates), but the currency conversion place will buy them at 140LKR to the AUD. I paid about 105-110 when I bought them Smile




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #20 on:[/b] January 07, 2018, 05:43:33 PM »
Wowza, the spread on Polish Zlote (PLN) is about .02-.03PLN per dollar, or about one cent. 

33% sounds insane, so does 15%. 




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Re: my brother bought me Iraqi Currency (Dinar) for my Birthday and Christmas
« [b]Reply #21 on:[/b] January 07, 2018, 08:39:04 PM »
The thread reminded me that I have a butter tub of Saudi Riyals from Desert Storm.
I'll have to count it and see what it's worth.




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I came across an ad in the newspaper today, a website sells Iraq dinars 1M Iraq dinar is around $1.5k. I tried to investigate more, I found many sites that sell the dinar and actually the price varies. Some other sites warn about old and new currency or fake dinars. They compare the situation to Kuwait although very different. I think 1 dinar = 1 USD is impossible!!! 
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BBB Warns that Iraqi Dinar Investment is Creating Concerns and Complaints!!!! 
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Can we buy the dinars from a Canadian bank? 
Is there a tax obligation after buying them? 
Is there a tax obligation if I want to sell them?

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Scam or not, even if it's a real dinar it won't be worth much anyway. And yes, you should be able to buy from any respectable forex place. Try bank or even Money Mart.
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Why the f*** would you want to buy Iraqi dinars?




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tasamy [OP]Deal AddictTopics tagged under 8 on Dinar Daily 36631_1470311364 Dec 23, 2005 2644 posts 135 upvotes Calgary
Thalo wrote: Why the f*** would you want to buy Iraqi dinars?


I don't know if it is true or scam but anyway it is like gambling

1M Iraq dinar -> $1.5k
If Iraq dinar went to $1 (half of its value before war)
Then the $1.5k will be $1M ... but will that happen? Nobody knows!
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ImpossiblesDeal Addict Jun 7, 2005 4276 posts 66 upvotes
tasamy wrote: I don't know if it is true or scam but anyway it is like gambling

1M Iraq dinar -> $1.5k
If Iraq dinar went to $1 (half of its value before war)
Then the $1.5k will be $1M ... but will that happen? Nobody knows!


This thread made me do some wiki research.

Iraq of the 70's and early 80's is quite a different place than today. In the early 90's the value was much lower, like 4000 dinar to 1 USD.

But hey, its your money.




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tasamy wrote: I don't know if it is true or scam but anyway it is like gambling


Yes, it is. So you might as well just go to a Casino. You'll probably have more fun there, and you'll be less tempted to think that you are investing.
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AllWheelDriftDeal Addict Feb 9, 2005 4167 posts 14 upvotes
You should also consider the Zimbabwean Dollar. If you buy it and it recovers you'll make even more money. Don't forget they already did a 10,000,000,000:1 reverse split so when you compare it to the historic exchange rate, you need to multiply your predicted gains by 10,000,000,000. That means if the currencey returns back to where it was, you will make $10 billion by buying just $1 worth of Zimbabwean Dollars. Heck, even if it only went to 1/1000th of it's original value, you'd still have made a million dollars from your $1 investment.


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Bulldog75 "45 Security Tips" from OOM&F Forum Part 1

06/05/2013


45 SECURITY TIPS: ARE YOUR ASSETS & FAMILY SAFE



The last few years have witnessed an all-out assault on your personal and financial privacy. Credit-reporting agencies, schools, Internet marketers, medical clearing-houses, and dozens of other private organizations, Government all now maintain detailed records on us. The worst offender has been the U.S. government.

PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS PERSONALLY! THIS IS STRICTLY PROTECTION MEASURES AND BUSINESS FOR ONE TO TAKE CARE OF NOW.

Herein are Great Ways To Protect Your Privacy:

#1. The first law of privacy is: TO STAY QUIET, particularly when one is in public, on the phone, or sending faxes or e-mail. DO NOT TAKE THIS PERSONAL; IT'S ALL ABOUT BUSINESS AND YOUR SECURITY! IT ONLY TAKES ONE PERSON TO 'UPSET YOUR APPLECART".

In fact, electronic communications are now so vulnerable to interception by government agencies, private investigators, and other snoops, that one shouldn't say anything in these communications you wouldn't want published on the front page of the New York Times or recorded by the IRS.

One can now get hacked into from your printer. Use separate computers and printers. One for on-line and one for off-line, IMHO.

# 2. Don't flaunt one's wealth, particularly if you have a lot of money. If you own a fancy home, make sure it looks as modest as possible from the outside. suggestion to buy cars under $75,000; Keep new homes/apartments/condo under 1 million. There is no need to advertise wealth.

The IRS regularly searches car-purchase and property records. If they suspect tax evasion – real or imagined – they can freeze your assets, and seize your car and home. When traveling overseas, you have to be even more careful.

Driving a fancy car or dressing like a "rich" American – i.e., the way you normally dress – can make you a target for robbers, kidnappers and anti-American terrorists. Also limit your credit card use. Every time you use your credit card, thieves could steal the number and rack up huge charges.

It could take months or even years to get it all sorted out. stick with a car no higher than a LEXUS, to 75k, or one's draws serious attention.

# 3. Shred or burn important documents. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that it's 100% legal for snoops to rummage through your curbside trash and keep any papers they find.

So never throw any important papers in the trash without shredding them – including bank and credit-card statements, utility bills, letters from Social Security or other government agencies, information from your stock broker, etc.

Make sure and use a cross-cut shredder ($100-$150) which reduces documents to confetti, rather than a less-expensive shredder that cuts paper into strips which can be pasted back together. For ultra-sensitive documents, nothing beats burning them.

# 4. Isolate sensitive computer files from snoops. As we use our computers more and more to keep sensitive records and correspondence, it becomes more important to protect them from snoops. The #1 threat to your sensitive files is your modem, fax, or DSL Internet connection – anything that electronically connects your computer to the outside world.

Thanks to cookies, e-mail wiretaps, and other techniques, when you're browsing the web or reading your e-mail, snoops at the other end can download files from your computer hard drive.

The only sure way to protect yourself is by keeping all sensitive information on a different computer (or at least a different hard drive with its own, separate operating system) than the computer you use for web browsing.

In other words, you use Computer #1 to browse the web and send e-mail; and you use Computer #2 for word processing, accounting, and storing important information. Computer #1 has no important files or sensitive information.

Computer #2 has no electronic connection to the outside world. To minimize expenses, your two computers can share the same keyboard and monitor, by the addition of a network hub (about $100). Warning; Now as of 11/11 printers can now be hacked into.!!

# 5. Keep your web browsing and e-mail private. Whenever you contact a company or organization on the Internet, the computer at the other end will often insert a "cookie" into your computer – enabling merchants and government agencies to keep track of your web browsing.

The information that can be collected about you in this way is absolutely mind-boggling and includes your name, address, phone number, detailed information on the type of computer you are using, your Social Security number, credit-card numbers, a list of your friends and business contacts, and much more.

To keep your web browsing private, use an anonymous connection service,

For further protection, encrypt your e-mail, using high-level, 1024-bit encryption software, such as Pretty Good Privacy (PGP). http:// www.pgp.comZero Knowledge Systems (ZKS) offers software called "Freedom" which also uses 1024-bit encryption and which: Allows you to use multi-pseudonyms that can't be traced to your real name Prevents the receipt of Internet cookies Provides multi-layers of encryption.

# 6. KEEP YOUR HOME ADDRESS & PHONE# PRIVATE! This is the single MOST IMPORTANT step you can take to protect your privacy though all items within this POST are urgent for your welfare. Government snoops can't nose around your home, bug your computer, or listen in on your calls, if they don't know where you live or your phone number..

To keep your home address private, rent or buy your home in the name of an out-of-state corporation (Delaware and Nevada corporations are best). Also put your utilities in the name of the corporation, as well as your phone, and magazine and newspaper subscriptions.

This is precisely what TV personalities, professional athletes, and film stars do to protect their privacy. And it's not expensive. A Delaware corporation can be set up for as little as $150 and maintained for $50 a year!

Take your names off your local country tax rolls and replace your name with "property Owner". this is crucial!!!

# 6 B: Receive all MAIL personally addressed to you at a nearby mail drop, such as Mail Boxes, Etc. (about $15 a month), or an Executive Office Service ($50 to $150 a month), or at the address of a friend who owns a nearby business (free). Then use this address for your driver's license and car registration.

Naturally, your car will also be registered in the name of your corporation. Properly set up, a Delaware or Nevada corporation can also dramatically lower your taxes, if you're an independent contractor. (Please consult your attorney.)

For a private home phone, use a company name when setting up a new phone account, rather than your own, and make sure and get caller ID, complete blocking. To add a further level of phone privacy, purchase a prepaid cell phone – such as those offered by Trac Fone through Blockbuster, WalMart, and Staples.

No name, address, credit check, etc. is required to set up an account, and you can buy phone cards for cash to add more time. As of 11/11 Wal-Mart sells i-phones for less than $100 and Unlimited internet, text and talk for $55 per month. This is a fabulous rate!!!

#7 A.) (TWO PARTS) . Keep your medical records more private. Information in your medical files can be used to deny you insurance, jobs, and legal benefits. It could be even used by a government just slightly more authoritarian than the one we now have, to take away your children or commit one elsewhere.

Unfortunately, each time you see a doctor or check into a hospital or clinic, they will usually demand your Social Security Number, which in turn will be used to file and locate your medical records.

You can protect yourself from unwanted snooping by getting an alternative Medical photo ID from ID Network (IDN). No SSN is required, and medical records are kept in your own handwriting. $9.95. Call 1-888-329-3686 or 314-416-7411, http://www.idnetwork.com.

#7 PART B: In the civilized society, we each have a crucial zone of privacy shielding us from outside snooping and control. Privacy is about keeping more of what you earn – protecting the sensitive information in your computer - avoiding being hassled by the IRS or police – protecting your children – and minimizing your chances of a 2 am visit by a machine-gun-toting SWAT team.

The battle for your privacy is the battle for your freedom. Ultimately it is a battle we will win. AMEN.

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#8. EXCHANGE TIME : these are suggestions to consider; you decide what IS BEST UNDER YOUR SITUATION. THERE ARE MANY OPTIONS HERE FOR PRECAUTIONARY MEASURES. The wolves inside and outside the bank can be few to many in different clothing. Your Life and Your Life Savings may be at RISK.

# 9. Do not park in the bank lot. Why show your car tags to others that will jot them down and trace u? A camera can take a photo of you and your tags for blocks away. Take a taxi or rental car to the banks.

# 10.. Go with someone to the bank; spouse, best friend who is a fellow Dinarian. Caps and glasses are nice. Make no new friends at the bank or locally who might discover your fortunes.

#11.. Make an appointment , if required, to make the 'exchange'.

#12. Know your rate before you go. Have a predetermined game plan. Shop your rates. Seek investment angles, advice also from maybe Smith Barney, Scottrade Inc, etc, various options.

# 13. Watch your body language, look and play the part of Investor. MANY maybe WATCHING. Use dressy attire but no jeans or T's.

#14.There is NO rush to cash in; supposedly many weeks and option days to have the possible 15% tax advantage with no audits (this is still a rumor; will be confirmed sooner or later next week). Seek competent tax and legal advice.
 
#15. If your deposit is in an acct "non interest bearing savings acct" this should be Dodd-Frank. check with your banker. NIB accts are usually unlimited in coverage.

#16. SMITH BARNEY or MORGAN STANLEY INC. OR SCOTTRADE INC ET and others can re-insure your accounts somewhere in the $600,000 TO ONE BILLION $$ range per account.

Seek legal advice and the broker / company policies. DO NOT LEAVE SIGNIFICANT LARGE SUMS IN INSTITUtIONS UNLESS ITS RE-INSURED; IE: LLOYDS IN


#17. AFTER MAKING YOUR INITIAL DEPOSIT; TRANSFER IT TO ANOTHER INTEREST FREE CHECKING ACCT WITHIN THE WEEK; SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. THIS PREVENTS WIRE TRANSFER AGENTS AND PAST BANK KNOWING YOUR NEW ACCT #!! (AGAIN, PLEASE FILTER ALL THIS DATA. YOU DECIDE WHICH WORKS FOR U, BUT TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE AND WAITING IS NOT HEALTHY FOR THESE ISSUES AND ACTIONS HEREIN "MAY SAVE YOUR LIFE".

# 18. ONLY USE YOUR PASSPORTS FOR IDS: IT DOES NOT HAVE YOUR HOME ADDRESS, SOCIAL SECURITY # TIED IN. Avoid using your Drivers License for anything but the cops and court when or if mandated!

#19. Use UPS postal drop for home address or your attorney's office work address until you get things squared away about physical addresses. Never use one's home address for anything, especially: mail, fed ex, UPS, !!! Have your bank statements go to a Po Box! Never let one's attorney know how much money you have.

#20. IMHO, "Irrevocable Business Trust" or a "Irrevocable Spendthrift Trust" saves your wealth, health and happiness from the tax man. . It's Worth every penny and more. Trusts are much more apt to protect large estates. Revocable Trust hold little or no water with the IRS & States.

#21: IMHO: Legalshield.com or in some states, PREPAID LEGAL INC.: for family, business, Wills, IRS audits, Citations, legal situations. 100's of legal help issues that may give legal piece of Mind and ease the pocketbook too. Attorneys are assigned within your State to handle your cases. Some situations are outsourced to qualified attorneys within your state and they contact you. Fees average $17-49 monthly.

#22: BEWARE/ ALERT: RFID )))) RADIO FREQUENCY ID. RADIO CHIPS MAYBE INSIDE YOUR CREDIT CARD. IT IS ELECTRONIC ‘PICK-POCKETING’ OF ANOTHER’S CREDIT CARD # AND EXPIRATION DATE. LOOK FOR SYMBOL)))) OR POSSIBLE OTHER SYMBOLS. ONE’S CARD # AND EXPIRATION DATE INFO CAN BE COPIED ONTO SOMEONE’S ‘HOTEL ROOM KEY’.

THEFT DEVICE CAN BE BOUGHT FOR $100. KEEP ALL CREDIT CARDS INSIDE ALUMINUM /METAL SLEEVE OR CASE.

HACKERS CAN GET YOUR CARD #S VERY EASILY. SEE THIS VIDEO AND BEWARE. ‘RFID’ CHIPS ARE IN 33% OF CREDIT CARDS MADE TODAY. TAKE CAUTION NOW. THESE CHIPS CAN ALSO BE IN YOUR SOON TO BE BANK “BLACK DEBIT CARDS”. THIS COULD GET COSTLY AND DANGEROUS AT THE SAME TIME. IT’S BEST NOT TO HAVE ‘RFID’ CREDIT CARDS.

CHECK WITH YOUR BANK ON ‘CASH-IN’ / ‘CURRENCY EXCHANGE’ TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE NOT ISSUED ANY TYPE OF “ RADIO FREQUENCY RFID )))) “ CREDIT CARDS ON ANY OF YOUR CURRENT (AND FUTURE) ACCOUNTS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLAFhTjsQHw&sns=em

#23 (#23-36 WERE ADDED 7/16/12): Reduce Your Risk of Identity Theft: Traveling (for business or pleasure) can increase your exposure to financial risk. Here are some simple tips to protect yourself and reduce the risk of identity theft as you head out on your summer vacation.

#24: Clean out your wallet: Take only your essential documents, like your driver’s license and just 2 credit cards – one to carry and one to leave in the safe at the hotel in case your wallet is lost or stolen. Don’t carry your social security card in your wallet – ever. Leave your extra credit cards or identifications documents at home. Men – keep your wallet in a buttoned pocket, women – wear a purse with wide straps and locking clasps, and don’t hang it on the door when you use a public restroom.

#25: Leave your checkbook at home:  You shouldn’t need it if you have credit cards. Leave your bills and private papers at home, too.

#26: Make a copy of your travel documents: Copy your passport, driver’s license, airline confirmations, etc. Leave it with a trusted friend in case you need help, or keep a copy safely tucked inside a suitcase pocket in case the original gets lost or stolen. Make a list of what you have in your wallet, along with the phone numbers on the back of your cards.

#27: Stop your mail or have a neighbor pick it up: A full mailbox with bank statements and credit card bills is a sure sign for hackers and thieves that you are not at home. Also, stop the newspaper, and don’t broadcast your travel plans on social networking sites.

#28: Alert your credit and debit card issuers: Let them know where you are traveling, how you may be reached, and when you will return. This helps the fraud department stop charges that may not be yours, and reduces the risk that your cards will be “frozen” due to unusual activity when you are away from home and can’t be reached

#29: Keep an eye on your cell phone: Many people are storing user ID’s and passwords and other personal information on their cell phones. Secure your phone with a security code so that it can’t be accessed if it is lost or stolen.

#30: Consider a temporary credit freeze: A freeze will deny access to your credit history, so ID thieves can’t open accounts while you are away. Setting up a freeze through the three credit reporting bureaus – Transunion, Experian and Equifax – takes time and money, so this is the most beneficial if you are planning a period of prolonged travel.

#31: Look for safer ATMs: If you need cash withdrawals, ATMs in bank lobbies are less vulnerable to devices used to capture your information, and are usually better lit and safer in general. They are also more likely to have surveillance cameras.

#32: Be careful with computers in hotels and other public places: Don’t access your financial data on hotel or other public computers or public Wi-Fi networks. Public computers may have spy-ware or malware installed which could record everything you type. Be sure to log out of any sites that you may access before leaving the PC.

#33: Beware of front desk calls: If you receive a call from a “clerk” saying that they need to re-enter your credit card number, hang up and call the front desk yourself. You don’t now who is at the other end of that call.

#34: A few simple steps will go a long way in protecting you and your information and prevent your vacation or business trip from turning into a headache. If you have any concerns about your personal information, notice any suspicious account activity, or experience a customer information security-related event, contact your bank branch immediately so that they can assist you.

#35: ONLY PUT ONE'S PO BOX ADDRESS ON THEIR CHECKS. NEVER PLACE BIRTHDATE OR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS OR EVEN PHONE NUMBER ON YOUR CHECKS. MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR THE WOLVES/THIEVES IF THEY TAKE ONE'S CHECKBOOK.

#36: ACT IMMEDIATELY AND ACCORDINGLY TO PROTECT ONESELF, FAMILY, BUSINESS. ONE OR TWO MINUTES COULD SAVE : TIME, MONEY, GRIEF, UNTOLD PAPERWORK & CHAOS!

#37: Any major ideas or investments, always bounce it off someone you trust like your CPA, Attorney or Investment advisors. Many are ashamed to admit they've been taken advantage of or conned. Do not be over-trusting, nieve or gullible.. When or if someone tries to interest you in a venture involving money /investments, say, "I'll discuss this with my real estate agent, CPA or lawyer and get back to you." Then talk with someone you trust.

#38: further info on personal identity: Scam-proof your communications by taking control of your personal information. Put your phone numbers (home and cell) on the Do Not Call Registry. Opt out from the sale or sharing of your personal information by contacting the three credit bureaus, your state department of motor vehicles, the Direct Marketing Association and companies with which you do business. Thieves cull your information and use it to open bogus accounts that can ruin your credit scores, credit and make your life absolutely miserable.

For more information on how to remove yourself from these databases, see the Federal Trade Commission's Web page on sharing your personal information.

#39: Don’t Trust Your Caller ID: Never do business over the phone, unless you initiate the call. Here's why: No matter what your caller ID might say, you don't really know who's on the other end of the line. If you place the call yourself, divulging personal information isn't as risky. If you receive a call from someone who claims to be with your bank, insurance company or some other place where you do business -- unless you recognize the caller -- say you'll call back. That will give you time to make sure the number is legitimate. Simply call the company's published number and ask to speak to the individual who called you, or to someone in the appropriate department.

#40: Ways to make using a debit card safer include the following: Run your purchases as credit so you don't have to input your PIN. & Always double-check your card when a clerk, cashier or waiter hands it back to you and make certain it's the same card you handed over.

Be suspicious of people who want to stand too close to you when you're using your debit card, particularly when they are using a cellphone. They could be recording your debit card information with their camera

#41: Regard All Links With Suspicion: Social networking can be a great way to keep up with friends and family, but scammers have found the Internet a gold mine of opportunity. Most of us know not to click on links in emails from people we don't know or to acknowledge those silly get-rich-quick schemes from strangers, but you should never underestimate a con artist's creativity.

For instance, a recent scam on Facebook involves a fake game based on the "Twilight" series. Fans are prompted to click on the link, exposing their personal information to scammers.

Best rule of thumb: Be on your guard and never click on links of unknown origin. Check on them by running a search with the relevant keyword (in this case, "Twilight") and "complaint" or "scam."

42# Safeguard Online Activities: Don't join the thousands who fall victim to online identity theft schemes each year. Some are as simple as planting a keystroke logger on your computer to copy your private information, while others involve complicated email exchanges.

Here are some of the best strategies for avoiding online fraud:

Don't ever respond to emails asking for your account information since they are almost always fakes.

Never click on links embedded in emails (even a friend or relative can accidentally pass along a virus). If you must see that funny video, type the URL directly into your browser.

#43: When you decide to purchase from an online merchant, always make certain that you're dealing with a reputable site. Check for complaints and never click on a link; instead, as with email links, type the company's correct URL into your browser.

Make it a habit to double-check that order forms are secure before completing them. Instead of the standard "http," the URL will begin with "https," which indicates a secure transmission.

#44: DOUBLE REMINDER : Don't forget to maintain up-to-date, functioning security software and a firewall WITH latest up to date Online Protection.

#45: Guard your medical insurance information and ALL PERSONAL INFORMATION OF ANY NATURE with the same zeal as you do your financial data. the National Health Care Anti-Fraud Association says the fallout from medical fraud can damage your credit rating, open you to litigation and even result in your receiving improper medical care. "Always examine your explanation of benefits for treatments that you didn't have," he says.

THE LESS INFO there is out there about you, the harder you are to target. Make the con artists' jobs difficult by avoiding their scam tactics. They don't deserve to score off your hard work.

* #s 37-45 contributed in part by : Former policewoman Carole Moore,author of "The Last Place You'd Look: True Stories of Missing Persons and the People Who Search for Them."

Read more: 8 ways to avoid getting conned

http://www.bankrate.com/finance/personal-finance/8-ways-to-avoid-becoming-a-successful-mark-1.aspx#ixzz217YsBOtg

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Samson » November 19th, 2018

Trump plans to visit Iraq


19th November, 2018

US President Donald Trump said on Monday he plans to visit Iraq and Afghanistan in the future.

"I have several plans, including the visit of US soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan," Trump said in an interview with FoxNews television and its Mawazine News.

The US president declined to disclose the timing of his visit for security reasons. Trump has not visited Iraq since he took office two years ago. LINK

Don961 » November 19th, 2018

Which comes 1st Iraq ? ... you come here ?? .. or do I have to come there ?? .. either way , or both , it's time ... imo

Frank26 » November 19th, 2018

ON LAST MONDAY CC A WEEK AGO .............. WE WERE THE ONLY ONES ON THE INTERNET THAT SUGGESTED IMO ................ THAT THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN. TA DA FREAKEN DA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Notleftbehind » November 19th, 2018

IMO...........Looks like they are requesting the US agree to allow them to RI/RV !!! We are very close!!

Samson » November 19th, 2018

The Iraqi parliament is calling on the US Congress to make serious efforts to support Iraq and enable it to go beyond an encouraging stage


19th November, 2018

The Iraqi delegation representing the Iraqi Council of Representatives on Monday called on the US Congress to take serious action to support Iraq and enable it to move beyond an encouraging stage.

A statement issued by the head of the delegation, second deputy speaker Bashir Haddad, and received a copy of it, "Mawazin News," a copy of it, "among the meetings and open meetings of the Parliamentary Assembly of the members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NANO), and on the last day met with the Iraqi delegation headed by mourning members of the US Congress Jim Custer and Susan David of California. "

"The Iraqi delegation expressed regret and sympathy with the American people for the painful events caused by the fires that swept through the state of California and led to significant human and material losses to the population," noting that "was discussed during the Lalka discussed developments in the region and ways to strengthen bilateral relations and develop between parliament Iraqi and Congress in the field of parliamentary work and in the interests of common between the two peoples. "

The statement added that "Al-Haddad called for serious action to provide the necessary support to Iraq for stability and provide a safe environment for all components of the people and enable them to overcome the stage of urging, and building institutions and reconstruction of infrastructure and help the displaced to return and reconstruction of cities destroyed by terrorist operations, Kurdistan continues to house more than two million displaced people since 2014. "

He stressed that "the House of Representatives in its fourth session, in cooperation with the government of Adel Abdul Mahdi, is determined to fight all kinds of corruption and hold accountable those who are in default, because we are in front of a new stage in the reconstruction and provision of services on the ground to the affected provinces that suffer from poor services, primarily Basra Al Fayhaa. LINK

Why mix papers? The central bank is targeted

19th November, 2018 by Economic Adviser Samir Nusairi

The reason is to turn the attention away from corruption and real spoilers and draw attention to the central bank, which has achieved great achievements at the local and international level, which explained by the governor in detail last week when he was hosted in the House of Representatives.

At the time that our people are looking to complete the cabinet cabin for Prime Minister Dr. Adel Abdul Mahdi for the purpose of direct government to implement its government program, which outlines the road map to provide services and meet the basic needs of the people and the elimination of financial and administrative corruption, making the accused corruption and those well known by the people who stole the money of Iraq To raise a whirlwind sinking seven billion dinars in 2013 in the safe of the Rafidain Bank has been mixing the papers and directed charges to the Central Bank and try to undermine his administration and his portfolio on the real estate and they are not responsible for the sinking of the money

The other objective is to privatize the subject and to divide the administrations that have played a distinguished role in supporting the national economy and protecting the economic and banking system from the collapse of the circumstances under which Iraq is going to face the economic and security shocks and the construction of international financial and banking relations and the transition of financial and monetary works from the 20th century to the one century Twenty

In order to minimize the rights of state cadres responsible for the management of monetary policy applications and who have achieved qualitative achievements locally and internationally, we include below the administrative, technical and technical developments carried out by the Central Bank in the Iraqi banking sector under the responsibility of the current administration of the Central Bank of Iraq

According to the following

Developments in the Iraqi Banking Sector (2015-2018)

I. Commitment and action in accordance with the regulations issued by the Central Bank of Iraq regarding the combating of money laundering and financing of terrorism derived from FATF recommendations and in light of the principles derived from the Anti-Money Laundering Law No. 39 of 2015

II - Compliance with regulatory instructions that have been developed by the Central Bank in collaboration with MiTAC Center of the International Fund and make them live up to international standards and the requirements of the Basel III III

Third: The transition in the preparation of final and interim statements to international standards ( IFRS ), which ensures transparency of data and dealing with it by all parties responsible for financial reporting

Fourth: To encourage and stimulate the processes of financial inclusion and the attempt to increase its proportion in Iraq through the adoption of the project to settle salaries is a step to reduce the use of cash and the direction of growth of the non-monetary society

V. Work on the implementation of the plans of the Central Bank to revitalize the economic cycle and achieve economic stability and increase bank financing granted to small and medium enterprises

Sixth: The use of all methods and procedures required to be approved to verify the sources of funds of applicants for the purchase of foreign currency for the purpose of preserving the foreign currency of the detrimental behavior of the national economy

7. Take the necessary measures to adopt the risk criteria and adopt a precautionary policy to contribute to the perception of risks and then to take appropriate measures to address any risk

Eighth: Adoption of the unified banking number ( IBAN ) which contributes to improving the level of banking services and clearing services and settling payments locally and internationally.

IX Establishment of a deposit guarantee company to maintain the insurance of customers' deposits in circumstances that expose banks to financial collapses, which is a state of reassurance among customers to go to deal with the banking system

X. Commitment and action In accordance with the policies and procedures of the Governance Guide, which provides for transparency, disclosure and separation of management from ownership LINK

MilitiaMan » November 19th, 2018

What is interesting is this is the CENTRAL BANKS 10 (X) General Orders, imo. They are going to be adhered to and they are telling the world we are strong, in compliance and ready to do business internationally. Look at #8. IBAN.. Payments and Settlements through the use of having an IBAN number,. "IBAN stands for International Bank Account Number". This is coming from a very trusted source directly close to the CBI.

Now I am not sure everyone paid attention to Alak's Background or not. But he has a very good biography. Mr. Nusairi points that out above too in effect. If you read Alak's BIO and think about the corruption files that are out on Chalabi, under the Maliki and Turki CBI time frame and about not only the 2013 7 Billion Dinar debacle and the 393+ million Dollar Illegal Currency Auction for just one day in question back in 2013, sheds light on why there is BS news going after Alak.

The man is known for fighting terrorism, money laundering, etc. He has awards from his peers too support that. So, I agree that Alak should skate through the BS easily and Swiftly, as he already pointed out above.

Now to Prime Minsiter Mahdi in brief. Mahdi has his expertise and many years of it and include Oil Minsiter and Finance Minster and now Prime Minister of Iraq. He has been around since the origination of the Paris Club, and had good relationship with the Kurds.

Now we see the Kurds are happy, as they turned the oil back on through Ceyan Port to Turkey, not back up to the 250k barrels a day from a recent 100k, (turned down during the referendum failure by Abadi) but back up to 500k barrels a day, as of this weekend.. Why do I bring that up?

Well the HCL of course not to mention the citizens getting paid and possibly on International Master Cards, but, the money from all sales through the country will need a safe and secure way to settle payments.. Not just from the retail side of things but for very large payments by Oil Sales, and that the IBAN account will apparently be used in that process of clearing payments.

So when they TURKMENISTAN Model says the process of Monetary Reforms is Complex, sit back and think about all we know now, that we may have assumed to be as a simple flip of a switch.. Scary ungh? We all should sit back and actually be amazed at where we are and not have one negative bone in our bodies.. They are methodically playing this hand to the T.. Which by the President Trump may / will visit Iraq and Afghanistan shorty.

One more thing I would like to mention.. Is they are showing that they have in place mechanisms now to cease the Auctions, as we know them. So this is all looking so very sweet. Wednesday this week is a powerful day for imo. Mahdi seating Cab, possibly 2019 Budget and Alak in Parliment again.. IF those are correct, they should be somethings to watch for.. imo ~ MM

Purifiers » November 19th, 2018

IMO, NO ONE... NOTHING... CAN "UNDERMINE" THE GOALS OF THE CENTRAL BANK OF IRAQ... THE WORLD IS WATCHING THIS PROPAGANDA, AND IT WILL COME TO "NOT"

"IMO TRUMP HAS PLAYED HIS HAND" AND MORE FROM "T" IS TO COME...
IMO, THE MONETARY REFORM OF IRAQ, CANNOT, MUST NOT, AND WILL NOT... "FAIL"

(WE HAVE LEARNED MUCH OF THIS FROM FRANK AND WALKINGSTICK)

Doc.K » November 19th, 2018

Hopefully we see the 2nd article before the LAST WEEK OF DECEMBER.........
If they follow the Turkmenistan model, they changed January 1.

KBC123 » November 19th, 2018

I'm still hoping much sooner! In the Turkmenistan Model they announced the forthcoming change in August to be implemented the following January.

So yes, "hopefully before the LAST WEEK OF DECEMBER," but I'm hoping before Thanksgiving! Lol!

Samson » November 19th, 2018

Abdul Mahdi, the US Treasury Secretary: the importance of continuing international support for Iraq


19th November, 2018

Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi on Monday assured US Treasury Secretary Stephen Mnuchin of the importance of continuing international support for Iraq.

"The Prime Minister, Adel Abdul Mahdi, received today a telephone call from US Treasury Secretary Stephen Mnuchin," Abdulmahdi said in a statement received by Mawazine News. "During the meeting, the two sides discussed enhancing cooperation between the two countries in various fields," the office said. The Prime Minister, according to the statement, "the importance of continued international support for Iraq."

For his part, Stephen Mnuchin expressed his desire to "Adel Abdul Mahdi," stressing "the commitment of the United States and the Treasury to support Iraq and strengthen bilateral relations." LINK

The Cabinet announces the suspension of official working hours next Tuesday

19th November, 2018

The Secretariat General of the Council of Ministers announced on Monday, November 19, 2018, to disrupt the official working day on Tuesday.

The Secretariat said in a statement followed by the obelisk, that "it was decided to disrupt the official working day tomorrow Tuesday, 20/11/2018."

"This came on the occasion of the birth of the master of beings and the Prophet of Mercy Prophet Muhammad." LINK
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Mountain Goat 4/18/18

April 18, 2018 Mnt Goat News Brief

Hi Everyone,

I bring you much news today.

Since my December Newsletters on FaceBook Page, I have presented many amazing articles to everyone on the progress that Iraq has made in just the last 4 ½ months. Did you read my newsletters? Not my fault if you don’t understand what is now going on since I have been bringing the news to you.

Many still keep focusing around one event, then when it doesn’t happen they jump around and find yet another event remaining to trigger the RV. They keep moving from one event to the next. They say we need to just get through this event and the RV will happen. Really?

This approach to finding the TRUTH is chaos, stressful and not an overall intelligent approach. Instead you must get to know the people of Iraq, the politics and the necessity to change over the currency.

So in the past first we had to deal with these intel guru idiots making you believe once Iraq becomes a sovereign nation the RV will happen.

Then in June 2013 Iraq was moved to a new level sovereignty. But still no RV. Why? They still needed to be relieved from Chapter VII. I told everyone then that this still needed to be done to get “full” Sovereignty. But I did not say when they got out of Chapter VII then automatically they would RV. I simply said it has to be done prior.

Then in December 2017, Iraq moved “fully” out of Chapter VII. Oh – the RV is happening,…the RV is happening,…screamed all the gurus. Remember?

Then then these gurus moved to telling you all they needed was to get the banking reforms completed. Well that didn’t work either cause they announced over a month ago these reforms are completed. Still no RV.

Then there are the idiots that monitor the currency auctions daily thinking that someday they will end and this too will trigger the RV. So what comes first the horse or the cart. Like we are not going to know the RV happened unless we watch the currency auctions? Really?

Or many still believe the auctions are going to slowly taper off and then by magic, one day, they will get low enough, the RV will happen. Really?

Then there’s the madness moved on to the passing of the 2018 Budget. Oh – but the new rate is in the budget…really? They said all they need to do is pass the budget and get it public (in the gazette) and they will have to RV thus work off the new rate in the budget. Really?

Well the budget is now published in the gazette and still no RV. As I told everyone we go through this foolish, stupid mentality every year by these idiotic gurus when they are trying to pass the budget. I said stay away from this stupidity.

So now it’s all about an article about the CBI and the GOI saying the “project to delete the zeros” is all done and so everyone thinks the RV is eminent. Really?

Again just another event everyone is now flocking to thinking this is going to trigger the RV. Even though both the CBI and the GOI just flat out also told us (in fact in the same article) there are still concerns with “Fraud” and “Manipulation” they need to be addressed first. So do you gurus all have selective hearing or what? You idiots only hear what you want to hear.

So now we sit, these gurus still can’t accept the FACTS and REALITY and must still push their agenda of imminent/any day/every day. They will continue to push this agenda until the elections happen. Then what?

At election time (which began this already, by the way!) only now they are beginning to change their tune. Why must you string people along? Why can’t you just report the FACTS and stop giving your “opinion”? Who cares about your opinion? Many of you idiots who pretend to be so smart are just that idiots and so why should anyone even listen to you?

But they still persist even now that elections starting, they claim there is still hope for an RV in April. Really?

So now the latest lie is they tell you the new FAKE crisis in Syria is in the plan for RV. It is the coverup or a distraction for the RV and designed for the rollout. Really? How dumb is this?

I will say this again – these idiot gurus just feed off each other’s rumors. Someone idiot comes up with a theory or idea and spreads it around. That is all this so called “intel” is by most of these idiots.

So what about all of these issues combined can create an overall sense of Security and Stability in Iraq that they are looking for? Oh – did I mention the corruption too prohibiting the CBI from going forward with the implementation of the project to delete the zeros?

Add to that maybe some mandated items too like getting their new constitution “fully” implemented. After all, if you have been following this RV saga as long as I have, you should know that evidence is overwhelming that this must be accomplished first before the are going to join the rest of the world again. So what does joining the rest of the world mean anyhow? What else do they have left to join it? Their currency of course….

Aren’t you sick and tired of all this bullshit. How many gurus have told you

statements like – “the RV is all done” or “cards are loaded with the new rate” or “Iraq is using the new rate” or “tiers 1,2,3 already paid out” or “we are just waiting our turn” ….etc..etc.. and I didn’t even mention this absolute bullshit about China, Sovereign funds or the other Nesara/Gesara lies. We hear this crap over and over again as it gets recycled each year.

But are you at the bank yet?

So today as usual in my Newsletter,, let’s take a step back and look at many of the issues that Iraq has worked on and is working on. Do these make any difference? I am using my March 16th newsletter as a starting point. This is not the first time I am bringing these items to your attention.

Taken from my March 16th Newsletter:

“So what popped out in this week’s news media channels in Iraq:

1) Budget of 2018 (connected to all the other laws) president Fuad Masum announced he will back down from his position and ratify the law. The budget saga is finally over;

(Mnt Goat - We now know the budget is now in the gazette and enforceable. Besides paying on salaries they have not yet begun to spend much of it yet.)

2) Oil and Gas Law (Hydrogen Carbon Law - HCL) – This law was first drafted in 2007 and has had many iterations but never passed “officially” in parliament to make it a law. The importance of the law of oil and gas for its economic importance and the revenues of the state and how to deal with it. Clearly states in the constitution is must be implemented and this means legislation in order to do this;

(Mnt Goat - We know that on 3/5 parliament finally passed the oil land gas law. It is done. Reference the article in my 3/19 and 3/21 Newsletters. So the news only came out two weeks later. I quote – “ON MARCH 5, IRAQI MINISTER OF OIL JABBAR AL-LUAIBI DESCRIBED THE VOTE ON THE DRAFT LAW AS “A HISTORIC DECISION.”

Today I present another article on it so it’s confirmed twice now. It’s done! They are telling us there were 5 iterations of the law. They are also telling us why the law was held up so long. I quote from the today’s article - “THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FAILED TO EXPLAIN ARTICLE 112 AND 111 OF THE CONSTITUTION, WHICH CAUSED THE DISRUPTION OF PASSAGE OF THE LAW, despite its importance”. I also have to tell everyone “I told you so”. I said nothing could go forward without this law in a piece of legal legislation. I also said prior to 3/26 that the law was not yet done and why it was mamdated. Now we know this is all done for sure. Check this one off your list..lol..lol..)

3) Article 140 – who will govern the disputed areas of DOHUK, ERBIL, SULAYMANIYAH, KIRKUK, DIYALA AND NINEVEH; federal supreme court confirms a binding decision that ARTICLE 140 of the constitution is a living substance in force.". Now they can move forward with the needed referendum. Clearly states in the constitution is must be implemented and this means legislation in order to do this;

(Mnt Goat – So in my 3/16 and 3/21 Newsletters I bring proof that Article 140 does matter and that they can move forward with it now. Then later in my 3/19 Newsletter again they tell us that Article 140 is “THE MOST OUTSTANDING ISSUES BETWEEN BAGHDAD AND ERBIL”.

So is Article 140 important for Stability (between the KRG and GOI) thus needed for the RV? You tell me Mr Guru who denies this is needed…lol..lol.. Again “You Can’t Have Your Cake and Eat It Too”. Either it is or it isn’t. So instead of putting confusion in the mix then keep your mouth shut until you truly know all the FACTS. So is this item that many gurus said were not important for the RV is in fact VERY IMPORTANT and that’s my point here.)

So in my 3/16 Newsletter the article tells us that the courts have decided this is still applicable even though it was NOT implemented two (2) years from the signing of the new Iraqi constitution. We still wait for this law. Could this be one of the laws still pending in the basket of 23-69 laws Jubouri keeps talking about? Could this be holding up the RV? I strongly believe it is! )

4) CBI -Mandated electronic banking, to spread advanced payment technologies in all areas of Iraq without exception, including all transactions for the public and private sectors;

(Mtn Goat – So later on yet two more articles came on this topic as the CBI keeps telling the citizens they are ready. Ready for what? Then they even tied the completion of these banking reforms to the “project to delete the zerps” so we got confirmation that they are interconnected. So this proved we needed these reforms prior to the RV too)

5) KRG had voluntarily surrendered its right to operate, regulate and supervise local banks to the central government in BAGHDAD (CBI now has control over all the banking practices throughout Iraq). We know that the KRG has been a BIG holdup in instituting many of the new CBI needed banking reforms;

(Mnt Goat – I told everyone many times already that the KRG has too much power and the GOI over time has a goal to break the KRG apart into separate provinces like the rest of Iraq. So here it is, yet another indicator of this taking place. Will this hold up the RV to complete it? I do not think so. For the RV, the CBI just needed control over the banks for obvious reasons. But its done and that’s the important part.)

6) World Bank soon to begin releasing some of the funds from the Donor Conference in Kuwait (pledges to Iraq to lend $ 6 billion over the next three years). The World Bank is noted as saying that they will not move ahead with releasing these funds unless Iraq moves ahead with completing their financial reforms. Does this mean completing the currency reforms (reinstating their currency)?;

(Mnt Goat – So this one we still have an issue with. Since the CBI probably under advice of the GOI, is still holding back on the reinstatement of the currency rollout, many of the donors came out and recently told Iraq they had 2-3 months to do what they said they would do. This was for not only a threat since it has been only 2 months. When they heard they would wait until after the elections to complete the final stage of project to delete the zeros (the reinstatement), they got upset and so we saw a series of articles about them complaining and threatening to pull out. Yet more proof they intend to wait until after the elections to RV. Could this all change now due to these threats from the donors? Yes, it could)

7) New today #7. (Mnt Goat – monitoring of the Multiple Currency Practices (MCP). Simply controlling the MCP. We know this is accomplished and we read many recent articles this is the case. From Jan – March the IMF monitored the program rate. This is now completed and satisfactory.

8) New today #8. (Mnt Goat -I want today to add 8) item to the list. This one is for joining the WTO. We recently read two articles on this topic. Iraq is still progressing forward with the reviews and relationship with the World Bankk to join the WTO. They will, however, need a tradable currency at some point. So we wait for this too to give pressure to RV)

9) New today #9. (Mnt Goat -I want today to add also 9) item to the list. This one is for ending the Currency Auctions. I strongly believe that the corruption involved in these auctions and billions being made by the politicians being involved with their fictitious companies may be one of the reason for delaying this RV for so long. Why stop sucking off the tit when you can stretch it out and keep doing it as long as you can. I quote from the article in my 3/28 Newsletter – “"The CENTRAL BANK'S AUCTION IS SUPPOSED TO BE TEMPORARY FOR A SITUATION THAT THE IRAQI ECONOMY HAS LIVED UNDER IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES AND IT MUST STOP AFTER THAT, BUT IT HAS CONTINUED FOR MANY YEARS”.

There has not been a very strong political will even though the CBI keeps saying it must be done, it must be done for the the economy. But greed does not always work that way for long term benefits when you are power. See the articles I present on this topic in my 3/28 and 4/2 Newsletters. I quote – “IT SEEMS THAT THE AUCTION OF THE CURRENCY, IS STILL TAINTED BY CORRUPTION BECAUSE OF SOME PRIVATE BANKS CONTINUE TO PROVIDE FALSE DOCUMENTS AND INVOICES FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE IMPORT OF GOODS, WHICH ARE OFTEN FAKE,” then in an article jus the day prior they also talk about the project to delete the zeros so we know they are inter-connected and this corruption in part what is holding up the RV. I quote – “THE SUBJECT OF DELETING ZEROS FROM THE CURRENCY IS READY BUT NEEDS A SUITABLE ENVIRONMENT TO BE APPLIED TO PREVENT MANIPULATION”.

So do I don’t care of the clean up the corruption with auctions. In fact if they did, it might only expand them out even longer. So what we want is for them to discontinue them. So if you read the article I present in my 4/2 newsletter we see that maybe they will not be able to EVER resolve this corruption issue with the currency auctions. I say good, good…lol..lol… I quote from the this article – “A MEMBER OF THE PARLIAMENTARY INTEGRITY COMMITTEE MP MISHAN JUBOURI, ON SATURDAY, THAT "NO ONE" CAN PREVENT THE SALE OF CURRENCY AUCTION, WHILE STRESSED THAT POLITICIANS ARE "OWNERS" OF THE PHANTOM BANKS.”

More news….

Just in late Monday-

The parliamentary legal committee expected on Monday that the parliament will be able to hold its meeting tomorrow with a full quorum of 90%, indicating that the continuation of the sessions or not will be determined by the presidency tomorrow. He hopes to pass some of the disputed laws." It is expected "the preoccupation of members after tomorrow's election campaign may be an obstacle instead of attending. So we are seeing a schedules session outside of the normal session schedule. Are these laws important going further into the short term future?

Just in Tuesday Morning-

The House of Representatives, held its meeting scheduled on Tuesday, to another notice of non-quorum.

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Formal Articles are below. Due to FACEBOOK limitations they do not print my RED colored fonts or italics, so my comments are in brackets ( ) throughout the articles. I will preface my comments with “Mnt Goat” so you know I am jumping in with observations. Also, I separated the articles with asterisks.

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ADOPTION OF THE LAW OF OIL AND GAS CONTRIBUTE TO ENDING THE ETERNAL DISPUTE BETWEEN BAGHDAD AND ERBIL

(Mnt Goat – so here it is in writing – HCL is done! Also I have been telling everyone the contention between the GOI and KRG and that is was all about getting a formal, legal law passed in parliament for how the oil and gas (95% of the wealth of Iraq) is to be managed.)

Information / Baghdad ..

The head of the parliamentary legal committee Mohsen al-Saadoun said on Saturday that the adoption of the law of oil and gas contribute to ending the eternal dispute between Baghdad and Erbil, REFERRING TO THE PARLIAMENT RECEIVED MORE THAN FIVE DRAFTS OF THE LAW DURING THE PREVIOUS TWO SESSIONS.

"The APPROVAL OF THE OIL AND GAS LAW CONTRIBUTES TO ENDING THE ETERNAL DISPUTE BETWEEN BAGHDAD AND ERBIL and determines the responsibility of each party to manage natural resources," Al-Saadoun said in a statement to Al-Mawdhara. "The oil and gas committee received more than five different drafts of the oil and gas law during the previous two sessions, .

He added that "THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES FAILED TO EXPLAIN ARTICLE 112 AND 111 OF THE CONSTITUTION, WHICH CAUSED THE DISRUPTION OF PASSAGE OF THE LAW, despite its importance," ruling out "finding a final version because of differences solutions to the eligibility of the parties to the conflict."

"The disruption of the law of oil and gas caused a major crisis between Baghdad and Erbil has reached the threat of wars between them, while the adoption of the law will ensure the legal and constitutional right to each party, whether the province."

(Mnt Goat – so what is in Article 111 and 112 of the Iraqi constitution?

https://www.constituteproject.org/constituti…/Iraq_2005.pdf…

Article 111• Ownership of natural resources

Oil and gas are owned by all the people of Iraq in all the regions and governorates. (not just the Kurdistan people)

Article 112• Ownership of natural resources

First

The federal government, with the producing governorates and regional governments, shall undertake the management of oil and gas extracted from present fields, provided that it distributes its revenues in a fair manner in proportion to the population distribution in all parts of the country, specifying an allotment for a specified period for the damaged regions which were unjustly deprived of them by the former regime, and the regions that were damaged afterwards in a way that ensures balanced development in different areas of the country, and this shall be regulated by a law.

Second

The federal government, with the producing regional and governorate governments, shall together formulate the necessary strategic policies to develop the oil and gas wealth in a way that achieves the highest benefit to the Iraqi people using the most advanced techniques of the market principles and encouraging investment.

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CORRUPTION IN THE ELECTION CAMPAIGNING HAS BEGUN

Al-Ghad Press:

Days ago, Diyala province is witnessing the fall of billions of dinars of political money distributed to citizens, personalities and dignitaries as election propaganda with the near parliamentary elections, not to mention gifts such as mobile phones and expensive devices, although some of those figures who have allocated billions for their campaigns at the moment did not even own houses Her families are housed years ago.

According to a member of the Diyala Provincial Council, Najat al-Taei, "the future of the press," that "the street in Diyala province is witnessing the current time the arrival of funds in unprecedented quantities through the electoral campaigns initiated by some candidates for the parliamentary elections."

"There are candidates who were politicians during the previous sessions or renewed but they were contractors, they lived in rented houses years ago, but they have now allocated billions of dinars for their electoral campaigns, where the situation reached the roads and the construction of schools and infrastructure as well as the distribution of funds encapsulated in circumstances Electronic boxes and expensive iPhone phones as gifts to community figures, dignitaries and opinion leaders to win votes. "

"The money that is distributed to the citizen at the present time is the origin stolen from his rights," asserting that "what will affect negatively affect the political process in general as a result of the inability of qualified people actually to access power to serve the citizen, as a result of the overthrow by the money".

In a related context, a source familiar with "Al-Gharab Press," that "there are new candidates in the province of Diyala, the budget of their campaigns amounted to two billion dinars and some billion dinars, not to mention the integrated media institutions that opened before the elections," noting that " It has funds but lacks immunity and nominated candidates for parliamentary elections with the aim of serving them later, which will turn the parliament as investment companies. "

Activist and observer Mehdi Shaunon confirmed to "Al-Ghad Press" that "what is being spent during the current electoral campaigns in Diyala province now does not exceed 5% of the total sum of more than one trillion dinars allocated to the province during the past years after 2003 And disappeared without any projects on the ground. "

"There is almost no opportunity for many of the new candidates to whales who owned only their salaries while now spending money here and there to win votes," he said, adding that "there were no options for new candidates except to enter strong lists to collect votes To its leaders or civil lists, which will have few chances during the upcoming elections. "

"Is it possible to have a joint committee between the Commission and the regulatory bodies to verify the sources of funds used in the current campaigns," he said, adding that "UNHCR has a role in setting a time limit for campaign funds as is the case in some developed countries, to ensure Parity between all candidates ".

Al-Ghad Press has revealed in a report in recent weeks that most of the candidates in Diyala province used tribal mobilization to secure the largest possible number of votes during parliamentary elections scheduled for May 12.

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ADVANCED INTERNATIONAL EFFORTS TO MAKE IRAQ AN EIGHTH ECONOMIC TIGER

17/4/2018

Haidar Kazem al-Baghdadi

Waiting and anticipation of the economic circles to find out the new, which will take place on the reality of the Iraqi market after the elections, which must be carrying an economic program able to change the reality of the economy towards a better stage.

The Iraqi economy is a major utility portal locally, regionally and internationally. It requires sound economic programs by the responsible figures. An economic program is urgently needed to move the country towards safety by moving the productive and service sectors that must be supported by a solid banking sector.

It is hoped that the next economic program will carry solid plans that promote the actual transition to an open market economy, which depends on the private sector to manage the local economy and take its actual role in enhancing the economic capabilities of the country by activating the investment aspects.

In the midst of domestic and international desires to invest in employment opportunities, we must identify the reasons that hindered the arrival of investments in Iraq and contain them as quickly as possible. The international effort recognizes the importance of the country's economic capabilities. This requires us to recognize this interest and employ it to achieve the highest economic feasibility.

Economists and interested in it and in various disciplines and through accumulated experience in the field and theory are working to intensify the proposals, which represent solutions to many economic problems suffered by the country in a chronic manner.

Making use of the experts' opinions is very important and can be the main pillars of a new economic program that will take the sectors to safety and start operating the productive and service sectors. It can draw up plans to produce production in a phased manner and from the right place to take the development of all work joints and feed the local market.

Though relatively first.

Economic programs must be present in the electoral forum so that the candidate is closer to the economic reality of a country described as rich and suffers from chronic problems in need of successful solutions where the economic and political meet to paint both new courses of action. It requires the politician to create requirements that contribute to improving the work environment. The role of the economic executive or directed to the executive effort, which must be adopted to start the development work sought by Iraq.

Available resources and expertise support any development process that promotes the national economy and change its shape. The need for an ideal working environment will only move all efforts and invest the natural and human resources as well as the advanced international effort to advance Iraq and make it an eighth economic tiger.

Articles End

Their words not mine…..No Rumors, No Hype, No Opinions ,,,,,

Just the FACTS!

Disclaimer: All information in this newsletter is not intended for investment decisions / purposes. Mnt Goat is not a financial analyst, planner, banker, attorney or associated in any role with giving out professional investment advice.

In ending I want everyone to know your constant prayers in the fight against evil (ISIS) in Iraq have worked. God has guided these young men and women on the battle field. Let us all now know that there is a new battle now to fight. A battle to save our homelands from the corrupt politicians who are bent on taking what they want from our current wealth and from future generations without our permission. We must keep praying for the end to the rapid corruption in Iraq and in the United States. We must pray for our leaders when they are being guided by the Holy Spirit. We must stand by them and let them know we are still there to support them, even after the election is over. I have composed a prayer maybe we can all pray today in our own way and until the revaluation of the Iraq dinar occurs.

PRAYER

“For the Iraqi Prime Minister and the President of the United States, that all their cabinet members, and deputies may be anointed by the Holy Spirit to do God’s will and bring the free democracies of the Republic of Iraq and the United States of America to the much-deserved prosperity and abundance thru justice and freedom from oppression and corruption. That they may be a shining example for the rest of the middle east and to rest of the world to follow.

In the name of Jesus Christ our King and Savior, Amen”

Auf Wiedersehen

Much love to ya all,

Mnt Goat

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Mountain Goat 10/30/17

October 30, 2017 Mnt Goat News Brief



Hi Everyone,

I bring you much news today.

“So here I sit, broken hearted (end of October), came to exchange but only listened to the retarded (idiots)”.

When I was composing this newsletter, and researching the known sites for articles and news, I could not help but think that the news is all mainly once again emphasizing economic growth in Iraq and the difficulties it is having attracting investors. It is having a hard time taking its place on the international stage.

Banks simply do not want to do business within Iraq due to antiquated investment laws and red tape. Corporations do not want to come into Iraq due the INSTABILITY and RISKS involved with these bombing episodes. Also ISIS is not yet fully gone. Sectarianism is still also a major factor and it causes a dysfunctional society that is hard and risky to do business in.

Many ask me why does Iraq not just RV and it will solve all their problems. I have to tell you it will not. In fact it may even make worst problems if they were to RV now. Let me give you an analogy to help you understand.

Example:

You are a business in Germany. You manufacture beer steins. An Iraqi merchant puts in an order for 5,000 steins. You ship the steins and expect to get paid. The merchant sends you dinar.

What in hell are you, in Germany, going to do with dinar? You go to the bank of Deutschland and they tell you they do not handle the dinar.

You try many other banks, unsuccessfully. You even ask you employees if they will accept dinar for their wages. They of course say no!

What will anybody in Germany do with it? They can’t use it since they have no demands for it and can’t make any money off exchanging it (the spread). There is not even a tourist demand for it, since many from Germany don’t want to go the middle east due to SECURITY reasons for their own safety.

So this German business owner say he cannot take dinar. The Iraqi merchant then must go to the bank currency auction window in Iraq and exchange the dinar for US dollars or maybe even get Euros to pay for the steins. Do you see the problems here?

This is why during the sanctions within Iraq the IMF imposed the US dollar as the currency to pay the outside world. It is the most acceptable and most widely tradable currency.

So it is not a matter of wanting to RV and delaying the RV (for some reason that is hidden from us) instead it’s a matter of who the hell wants the dinar since they can’t do a damned thing with it when they get it? So, if the CBI did increase the RATE on the dinar without first increasing the VALUE, it would even be that much more impossible to use it globally. Get it?

Can you see the job laid out ahead before the CBI?

Can you see why they can’t significantly increase the value of the dinar until there is a positive demand for it, thus the “value” of it must increase. The rate will just change accordingly. Remember the dinar RATE and VALUE and two different entities.

Oh- but many will tell you the VALUE is the assets in the ground and they would be partially correct. Yes – these assets do matter but they are not the sole determining factor to the VALUE of a currency. Much of the VALUE comes from a level of speculation, perception and tradability. Remember what currency really is. It is a piece of paper that is a placeholder for the goods and services rendered. Instead of paying the like valued goods and services or gold, you pay in currency, which must be as VALUED as the goods and services rendered. So does the Iraqi dinar now fit this definition of currency? No- and that is why they must change the perception first.

I hope everyone reads this today and shares this with others who are confused about why the dinar has not yet revalued. I know why these attitudes persists and it is because of many (not all) of these so called intel “gurus” out there who set themselves up as egocentric gods of intel and fully take on the responsibility to keep you informed without much knowhow. They pretend and lie to you. Did I also mention many of them barely passed first grade…lol….lol….

More news….

Yes -there is still some waves from the Kurdistan referendum and the ongoing last stages of ISIS and Deash cleanup.

But its all here today in black and white for you to read. I presented some really amazing news and articles. Talk about being optimistic in this investment? WOW!

Those that sold their dinar for ZIM, Rial or whatever will be sorry. I want you to know “I told you so”. Stop listening to all these idiotic so called intel “gurus” who mislead you and pump you to buy these other highly speculative currencies with your dinar money. It is a game and a scam.

There is no GCR! Yes – these other currencies are very cheap. But why buy them? There is only ONE (1) one, one, one, (did I say one) currency we know for certainty that will increase substantially in value shortly. This is the Iraqi dinar. I base this on the FACTS and I believe they are building up yet more evidence today that they are heading for a window timeframe of EARLY January 2018.

Oh – many might say “we heard all this before” and I say you would be right. But remember in each of the last 4 attempts to revalue it was planned for early January timeframes. So why would we think they would change this pattern? If we listen and I mean really listen to the news coming out of Iraq it all moves in this direction. But to really listen and get the full jolt of what I am telling you today, you must take off your every day / any day intel bullshit and come down to reality. In other words stop listening to these idiots telling you they think we will see the RV today or next week.

No one, and I mean no one knows the exact date or even a certainty of a short timeframe for the RV. But what I can tell you with the UTMOST CERTAINTY is when they WILL NOT RV. This is not hard to know since they have told us many times already when they will not RV. They told us they need POLTICAL STABILITY AND SECURITY in Iraq. Later, as we read many articles they defined just what they meant by STABILITY AND SECURITY so now we don’t have to guess anymore. I can assure you there are still items to correct and fix (work to be done) prior an RV. So relax. It is coming shortly, but just not today or this week.

More news….

When the Central Bank of Iraq talks, I listen.

October 27, 2017 in Iraq Banking & Finance News

The Central Bank of Iraq (CBI) has directed all Iraqi banks to adopt user protection standards approved by SWIFT before the end of 2017.

The bank explained that the standards of the 16-user protection network can be summed up by the need to restrict access to the Internet, separate sensitive systems from the overall IT environment, and mitigate cyber-attacks and vulnerabilities.

Other security measures include security intuition to protect against access to Internet sites, storage and prevention of safe password detection, management of bank identification numbers, separation of privileges, detection of suspicious activities within the system, registration of operations and plans to respond to various situations (errors and incidents) and information sharing.

(Source: Central Bank of Iraq)

This article is great but does everyone truly understand the impact of this news. To understand you must know what SWIFT is.

The Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT) provides a network that enables financial institutions worldwide to send and receive information about financial transactions in a secure, standardized and reliable environment. SWIFT also sells software and services to financial institutions, much of it for use on the SWIFTNet Network, and ISO 9362. Business Identifier Codes (BICs, previously Bank Identifier Codes) are popularly known as "SWIFT codes".

The majority of international interbank messages use the SWIFT network. As of 2015, SWIFT linked more than 11,000 financial institutions in more than 200 countries and territories, who were exchanging an average of over 15 million messages per day (compared to an average of 2.4 million daily messages in 1995).

The key to SWIFT is and I quote – “The majority of international interbank messages use the SWIFT network”.

More news….

Article 25 of the new Iraqi Constitution stipulates that the State shall ensure the reform of the Iraqi economy according to modern economic bases, in a manner that ensures the full investment of its resources, diversifying its sources and encouraging and developing the private sector.

Article 26 also stipulates that the State shall encourage investments in the various sectors and shall be regulated by a law. These articles shall lay down the general principles of investment and the state's entitlements to develop formulas for the advancement of the economy through investment.

It is necessary to support and encourage investment and the private sector, since the investment must be a law that regulates and sets the foundations for its success.

In fact, in 2006 Abadi’s cabinet legislated the Investment Law No. 13 of 2006 and its amendments, but this law needs to stand at some of its full implementation to establish a successful investment process in the country.

More news….

Here is an interview with prime minister Abadi of Iraq. It was conducted a few days ago. The link follows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uRlp-mAmLY

I HIGHLY recommend everyone to listen to it and get the direction Abadi wants to take Iraq. He is the good guy!

So, who are you going to listen to it is your choice. You can listen to the prime minister Abadi himself or you can continue down this road of nonsense and listen to these idiotic so called intel “gurus”. Abadi covers some very interesting topics, all of which we are concerned about the re-building their economy, POLITICAL STABILITY and SECURITY. He comes right out and tells us what are the issues still pending.

He talks about the impact of ISIS and Daesh and the Kurdish referendum.

He talks about the current problems and direction of Iraq. Folks thru this video you can get a very good idea on the personality of Abadi and how he thinks and wants to move the country of Iraq. This is so much different than Nori al-Maliki (the peanut head idiot).

Remember I said that when we are trying to figure out a timeframe for the RV, it is not the rate of the dinar that we should be so concerned about. Don’t get all hung up on this. But rather the VALUE of the currency based on the economics and status of the region. The new rate (whatever it will be) will be a direct result of this increase in VALUE. It will reflect a true value. Then the speculators will join in and drive it up for a while. Then it will settle back down. Yes – it will be a feast at first, but once they have their bellies full it will settle down.

So, you want to know when the rate will change? Listen to Abadi he is giving a status of the nation like speech.

Abadi talks about crises and events that could lead the country back to a dictatorship, if not handled correctly. He still has concerns about some of these political parties within Iraq. So, we can see there is still turmoil not the level of STABILITY needed. He talks about the Kurdistan referendum and how they are trying to drive POLICIAL INSTABILIY and yet another crisis. Abadi is tired of these constant crises and he says so. He wants desperately to get Iraq out of this mode. He is not going to play into the hands of these infiltrators and instigators.

I say this because this is not my OPINION but rather Abadi talking and telling us this first hand. Get it. No rumors, No hype, just the FACTS. He says it himself. He does say there are still some very dangerous political parties but the trend is towards UNITY. There is a positive change.

Abadi refers to a shadow entity working behind the scenes to give democracy a bad name and to introduce mistrust between politicians and the people. He is very alarmed by this. He says this needs a solution. He is working on it.

So just remember there is still work to be done and so let’s not count our chicks until the eggs are hatched.

Do you know what this statement means? It is one thing to be optimistic but optimism is not exactly always reality and acting crazy, stupid and highly speculative. We all must learn to relax and really, really think about what is happening in Iraq.

More news….

U.S. crude oil imports from Iraq have exceeded those from Saudi Arabia in 3 of the past 4 weeks. That would have seemed unthinkable as recently as last year. At that time, flows from Saudi Arabia were exceeding those from Iraq by somewhere between half and one million barrels a day.

More news….

Wow! This is WOW! news. Please read the full article below. Here is a summary. What do they mean that Iraq will become the “eighth tiger”?

In the article they are using an analogy, but the term “TIGER” economy is actually a known term used by economists.

A “tiger economy” is the economy of a country which undergoes rapid economic growth, usually accompanied by an increase in the standard of living.

Collectively this term refers to the economies of Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, and Thailand, the four dominant countries in Southeast Asia. Tiger Cub Economies are so named because they follow the same export-driven model of economic development pursued by Hong Kong, Singapore, South Korea and Taiwan, which are collectively referred to as the Four Asian.

So, what the article is telling us is that Iraq will outpace #8 place from 2017 rankings and move into this ranking in 2018. I am not sure where the other tigers will end up ranked but we do know Iraq will take its place in the rankings as a TIGER. Urrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr…..

Folks do you know just how amazing this news is? This is one of those WOW! articles. No middle eastern country has EVER ranked in this category of TIGER economies, NEVER, EVER! Can they do this without a currency being internationally traded? I don’t think so….lol … lol …

Today, the visit of the Prime Minister to Saudi Arabia has achieved great successes and culminated in the founding of the Constituent Council for Economic Cooperation between Iraq and Saudi Arabia and the signing of

economic agreements.

This move WILL BRING IRAQ BACK TO THE RANKS OF THE DEVELOPED COUNTRIES, WHICH BRINGS US BACK TO THE GLOBAL EXPECTATIONS THAT IRAQ WILL BE THE EIGHTH TIGER AMONG THE SEVEN TIGERS after his salvation from the challenges he faced

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Articles are below. Due to FACEBOOK limitations my comments are in brackets ( ) throughout the articles. I also separated the articles with asterisks.

Articles Begin

IRAQI KURDISTAN LEADER BARZANI WILL HAND OVER PRESIDENTIAL POWERS ON NOVEMBER 1

SULAIMANIYA, Iraq (Reuters) - Iraqi Kurdistan’s veteran leader Masoud Barzani will not extend his presidential term beyond Nov. 1, a Kurdish government official said on Saturday.

His decision came just weeks after a referendum on Kurdish independence backfired and triggered a crisis for Iraq’s Kurds who had been enjoying a period of unprecedented autonomy.

A plan to divide up the president’s powers was outlined in a letter Barzani sent to the Kurdish parliament on Saturday, the official told Reuters. The plan asks parliament to distribute the president’s powers among the government, parliament and judiciary.

Barzani’s current term was set to expire in four days, the same date that presidential and parliamentary elections were due to be held. However, those elections were delayed indefinitely last week, amidst an escalating regional crisis.

Critics say the Sept. 25 independence referendum, orchestrated and championed by the 71-year-old Barzani, has left a bleak outlook for Iraq’s Kurds.

Less than four weeks after Kurds in the region voted overwhelmingly to break away from Iraq, the central government launched a military offensive to wrest back the oil-rich city of Kirkuk, which the Kurds regard as both their spiritual homeland, and a key source of revenue for their would-be independent state. It was one of several retaliatory measures taken by Baghdad, which vehemently opposed the referendum.

In a matter of days the Iraqi government has transformed the balance of power in the north of the country, exerting tremendous pressure on Barzani to step aside and wrecking decades-old dreams of Kurdish independence. Iraqi forces have continued to advance on all Kurdish-held territory outside the autonomous region’s borders.

Iraq’s prime minister demanded on Thursday that Kurds declare their independence referendum void, rejecting the Kurdish autonomous region’s offer to suspend its independence push to resolve a crisis through talks.

Earlier this year, Barzani said he did not intend to stand in the November elections. However, prior to the referendum, few expected he would stick to his promise.

Barzani has held the office of the presidency since 2005. The region last held a presidential election in 2009, in which Barzani won. His term of office expired in 2013 and was extended twice. The president is expected to address his people before his term formally expires, marking the end of a storied career.

Barzani was born in 1946, soon after his legendary father, Mulla Mustafa, founded a party to fight for the rights of Iraq’s Kurds. After decades spent fighting with the Peshmerga, Barzani became a central figure in the drive to create an autonomous Kurdish state in northern Iraq, after Saddam Hussein was toppled in the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

Barzani’s letter will be discussed by parliament on Sunday, though the government official said it was unclear whether ministers would need to vote the plan into action during the session.

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IRAQ - BEST ARMY IN THE WORLD IN 2017

Baghdad Mawazine News

Lieutenant General Abdul Wahab al-Saadi won the award of the best military commander in the world in 2017, while the Iraqi army won the title of the best army in the world this year.

Retired General Taosend Rushford, general supervisor of the 2017 Festival of the Best, to be held by Jane's, a British military, defense, armament, warfare and manufacturing magazine for the English-language channel, said the British military magazine Jeans will hold its World Festival on Dec. 21 in the capital. British and London and allocated 20 awards in different military specialties of the most prominent military invention and the most prominent manufacture and most prominent innovation and the best manufacturer and the best buyer country and the best army in the world and the best military commander in the world and other awards.

"So far, only three awards have been made, the title of the best arms purchaser who went to Saudi Arabia undisputedly, and the IRAQI ARMY WON THE TITLE OF THE BEST ARMY IN THE WORLD FOR 2017 UNDISPUTEDLY for the great achievements he made, the vast distances he liberated and the quality of the battles he won, Military in the world for 2017 went to the Iraqi Marshall Marshall Abdul Wahab al-Saadi, who liberated Falluja and Mosul and dropped a state called ".

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IRAQS ECONOMIC RECOVERY

The signs of economic dislocation in Iraq are looming after an important page of disability has ended with a "da'ash" strike.

Yesterday, Iraq signed several economic agreements with France during the recent visit of Abadi, an economically advanced country.

Today, the visit of the Prime Minister to Saudi Arabia has achieved great successes and culminated in the founding of the Constituent Council for Economic Cooperation between Iraq and Saudi Arabia and the signing of

economic agreements.

This move WILL BRING IRAQ BACK TO THE RANKS OF THE DEVELOPED COUNTRIES, WHICH BRINGS US BACK TO THE GLOBAL EXPECTATIONS THAT IRAQ WILL BE THE EIGHTH TIGER AMONG THE SEVEN TIGERS after his salvation from the challenges he faced.

Based on Iraq's assets and wealth qualify for it, but was disabled because of his preoccupation with the war, "dashing" and address the effects of the financial crisis because of the decline of its financial resources due to low oil prices and fluctuation.

Perhaps the return of Iraq strongly to the Arab and regional environment and the use of all with one space will enable him to economic recovery again.

It is true that Iraq has been subjected to great destruction in the areas occupied by "Dahesh" but will overcome this stage by international support and the regional environment in this regard.

THE MERE START OF THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE LIBERATED AREAS WILL CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE RECOVERY OF THE LABOR MARKET AND THE REPERCUSSIONS OF THIS WILL CORRECT THE DISTORTIONS EXPERIENCED BY THE ECONOMY represented by high rates of unemployment and poverty and will contribute significantly to the decline of these percentages.

In addition to this, the reform steps taken by the government in all parts of the state to reformulate the institutional system to carry out its activities aimed at implementing sustainable development programs, and these steps will have their effect and positive results in achieving the desired goals.

We hope that development progress will be achieved at this stage as long as the Government's steps are consistent with the requirements of development and are accompanied by the understanding and interaction of most ministries with the right measures that lead to achieving the desired economic reform. The first step in this direction is the

next economic breakthrough.

THE RESULTS ARE EXPECTED TO GO TOWARDS ECONOMIC SUCCESS, AS THE REGIONAL INTERNATIONAL CONVERGENCE FROM IRAQ HOLDS THE KEY DEVELOPMENT CATALYSTS.

(Can it get any better?)

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THE UNTHINKABLE - U.S. CRUDE OIL IMPORTS FROM IRAQ HAVE EXCEEDED THOSE FROM SAUDI ARABIA IN 3 OF THE PAST 4 WEEKS

(folks – they are shifting the oil sales to Iraq. They need to compensate Iraq to help stabilize their economy. This is not coincidental!

Circa 2014 - Remember first they chopped oil prices and brought in ISIS. Then the economy almost collapsed. This was a price they had to pay for Maliki policies. You don’t want cooperate with us? Then we will replace you and show you just who is in control.

So either you now play ball or continue to suffer. Which is it? Maliki resigns reluctantly in 2014. They put Abadi in his place. They final get cooperation over the SBA (almost the exact same goals as for the 2010 SBA but this time its different. Abadi is cooperating and the reforms get in place, as needed.) Yes – the World Bank, IMF, WTO do have enormous power over which way a country’s economy can go.

So, these events are all intentional and well orchestrated and certainly NOT coincidental. They will drive the price of oil up by January. Just wait and see that I am correct, as I almost always are ..lol…lol…)

U.S. refiners are buying the stuff, rather than "taking" it -- whatever that might mean -- but the volume of Iraqi oil entering the U.S. has been on the rise since the middle of 2015 and has continued to increase this year, despite OPEC's output cuts.

Imports of Iraqi crude have averaged 600,000 barrels a day so far this year, according to data from the the Energy Information Administration at the Department of Energy. That's up by 50 percent from 2016 and is almost three times as much as U.S. refiners bought from Iraq in 2015. The flow through American ports has exceeded 1 million barrels a day three times since the start of June in weekly EIA data.

Iraq ascending no impact from OPEC cuts on U.S. oil imports from Iraq - on the rise since mid-2015.

MEANWHILE, PURCHASES OF CRUDE FROM SAUDI ARABIA, HAVE BEEN GOING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION. The Saudis have made good on the promise oil minister Khalid Al Falih made after the May OPEC meeting to "markedly" reduce deliveries to the world’s biggest consumer. "Exports to the U.S. will drop measurably," he told reporters after chairing a meeting between the group and other major producers in Vienna on May 25.

And they have. After averaging close to 1.2 million barrels a day in the first six months of 2017, they have fallen to around half that level since the start of September. True, a couple of big storms in the Gulf of Mexico have hit individual weekly numbers, but they bounced back after the storms passed and delayed cargoes were able to discharge.

U.S. crude oil imports from Iraq have exceeded those from Saudi Arabia in 3 of the past 4 weeks. That would have seemed unthinkable as recently as last year. At that time, flows from Saudi Arabia were exceeding those from Iraq by somewhere between half and one million barrels a day.

BEIJING - BAGHDAD IS TO SIGN A RECONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT AND ANNOUNCE 2018 THE YEAR OF STABILITY

(Opps, these is that term again – the needed STABILITY! When? They are saying 2018, but not now. First they need to complete the liberation of the last of the ISIS held regions. Then they need to reconstruct the regions. Yes more evidence for us to be looking for an EARLY 2018 timeframe for the RV, but not now. You can see there is still more work to be done.)

Economy News _ Baghdad

China on Sunday offered to sign an agreement on Iraq to contribute to the reconstruction and delivery of aid, while the Iraqi government confirmed that the year 2018 will be a "year of stability" in the liberated areas.

"Secretary-General of the Council of Ministers Mehdi Al-Aalak received Chinese Ambassador to Iraq Chen Wei Qin to see the level of cooperation in the areas of humanitarian relief and stability in the liberated areas," said a statement by the Secretariat General of the Council of Ministers.

"The role of the Iraqi government in eradicating terrorism and the Chinese government's interest in the rehabilitation of schools and universities by providing assistance to improve the educational reality in areas that have suffered the control of terrorist gangs," the Chinese ambassador said.

"The need to coordinate the delivery of aid, contribute to reconstruction, and the possibility of signing an agreement between the parties in this regard," Chen stressed.

For his part, Al-Aalak welcomed the Chinese government's initiative, wishing it "a bigger and more secure role in participating in the Kuwait conference which will be held next year in cooperation with the State of Kuwait and the World Bank and with the broad participation of the countries of the world."

He added that "the Kuwait conference will discuss investment opportunities for the participation of major reconstruction companies after assessing the cost of war damage and the cost of rehabilitation of infrastructure, factories and companies."

He stressed that the year 2018 will be a year to support the stability in the liberated areas, "noting that" the current trend will be towards the completion of quick projects with the low cost of returning the displaced as soon as possible.

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Articles End

Their words not mine…..No Rumors, No Hype, No Opinions ,,,,,

Just the FACTS!

Auf Wiedersehen

Much love to ya all,

Mnt Goat

by Mountain Goatee
on Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:59 am
 
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Dinar Indictments (9/20/2012)


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"Removing Three Zeros"
Brad Huebner, Charlie Emmenecker, and
Michael Teadt doing the perp walk


Kudos to MrIQD for staying on top of this story for four months now.  Seems that three of the guys featured on my blog's banner have new photos on the internet, courtesy of law enforcement.  Brad Huebner, Charlie Emmenecker, and Rudolph Coenen have all been indicted on dinar-related charges.  Hopefully there are more indictments to come.  Today BGG dismissed this as "no big deal", "a little trouble", "a goofy article", and "tax trouble".  Folks these guys were charged with defrauding investors out of $23.8 million dollars in dinar sales and $700,000 from non-existent hedge fund seats.  I'd say that qualifies as a big deal.  Breitling said that it was about structuring, but there's a little more to it than that.  The article says they repeatedly made false statements to sell dinar.   If making false statements to sell dinar is a federal offense I have to assume there are more arrests coming.  And what Breitling failed to mention is that according to Brad Huebner, Breitling was part of their marketing team for LDHL (24 minutes in). 

I've been telling you for a year now that the dinar world is full of crooks.  This is just the latest example.  Of course they're all presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law by a jury of their peers.  Nobody wants to deny them their rights.  But this is the biggest development in the history of this blog, and will no doubt send reverberations throughout the dinar world.  Read the indictment in the pdf file below to see how a federal document completely debunks what gurus are saying about the dinar.

Topics tagged under 8 on Dinar Daily COENEN,%2520RUDOLPH%2520MARTIN

Rudy Coenen mug shot
http://www.realscam.com/attachments/f12/1576d1348185792-bayshore-capital-investments-bh-group-bhgroup_indictment.pdf (Thanks to Real Scam for providing this.  I addressed some of the lies listed in the indictment in my post "Dinar 101 - From the BH Group")

http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2012/09/21/3-local-men-face-chargesof-defrauding-investors.html

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-09-20/story/ohio-indicts-jacksonville-man-iraqi-dinar-fraud-scheme#ixzz273uElQdC

http://www.13abc.com/story/19594414/local-men-charged-with-fraud-in-multi-million-dollar-scheme-to-sell-iraqi-currency

http://mriqd.com/2012/09/20/breaking-bh-group-brad-huebner-bayshore-capital-rudy-coehen-indicted-by-a-federal-grand-jury-for-fraud-schemes/#comment-89



9/21/12 UPDATE!!!   I've read through the indictment now and have had a day or so to reflect on this story.  Here are my observations.

The indictment states that the CBI has expressed their intent to redenominate, not revalue.  Printing new currency and removing three zeros will be done for the sake of convenience, and won't change the value of the dinar.  (Just like we've been saying.)  Therefore promoting the dinar investment based on the presumed upcoming revaluation (#8) is fraudulent. 
The indictment addresses the non-existent hedge funds.  This raises the question regarding other dinar gurus and dealers.  Does the post-RV product that they offer exist?  Is the post-RV service that they offer legit?  If the RV itself isn't legit as stated in the indictment it would be hard to imagine a post-RV product or service being legit.  So anybody using a special cash-in deal as incentive to buy into anything has to be rethinking that idea right about now.  Or any tax avoidance plan or any scheme to move revalued IQD out of the country to avoid taxes.  It will be interesting to see these guys revamp their dog and pony shows now. 
The indictment states that EO13303 says nothing about the right to invest in the dinar, but refers to protection of the DFI.  This is also a point that many of us have been making for some time, and we now have official confirmation. 
The indictment states that the US Treasury only holds a nominal amount of IQD for daily transactions.  Now we have evidence that they hold no IQD for investment purposes.  We've been saying all along that there is no evidence that the UST holds any dinar for any upcoming RV, but for some reason we were never quoted on Dinar Recaps, Dinar Guru, or Dinar Daddy.  Wonder why? 
The indictment addresses Rudy's false claims about his background.  This raises the issue of gurus/dealers lying about their backgrounds in order to sell dinar, dinar services, dinar related products, or any other investment related product.
The indictment mentions repeated lies told by the accused to sell dinar.  Anybody selling or pumping dinar for a dealer has to now realize that they could be the next ones doing the perp walk.  Review the page "Forum Facts" to see what lies they've been telling.
The indictment reveals that an undercover agent bought dinar from Michael Teadt in May of 2011, so we know that the feds have been working undercover on the dinar case for over 16 months now. 
This is a good day, indeed.  We now know for a fact that the authorities weren't ignoring the situation.  They were just taking their time to build an airtight case.  My hope is that their intent was to make it so bleak for these guys that they will reveal everything that they know about the other douchebags in order to get reduced sentences, in which case I will have other arrests to report.  We can only hope.

http://dinardouchebags.blogspot.com/2012/09/dinar-indictments.html
by Sam I Am
on Thu Sep 21, 2017 3:14 am
 
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WSOMN Thursday Drama 8/17/17

 

 



 

 

 

 



 

 
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Thursday morning and the beat goes on. Still shifting feelings from all the Intel providers with new or recycled Intel provider showing us to get noticed during the last hurrah before the balloon goes up. Good to hear from some of the old voices. We go on with predictions of at any time or anytime next week so we just sit back and watch the parade go by while holding on to our currency.

I understand many of us are getting Text and message with links that will allow us to change our passwords for various sites. Understand people these message are false. The instigators of this option is planning to use your new passwords then enter your sites and immediately change your password again so that you will no longer be able to access the various Internet sites.

Most Gracious and Heavenly Father we ask for assistance to keep these people from doing harm to our members by blocking them out from all of their websites. We have all been made of this but I believe despite all our best efforts to keep everyone notified but realistically we know there will be some who fall through the cracks and become discouraged. Protect our members and those in need.

Dear Lord God Almighty, help us to see pass the ones who are dedicated to discouraging us from believing this event will ever happen in our lifetime. The road to this happening seems cluttered with confusion and distrust, please guide us to the path You have chosen for us to follow. Amen and Amen

Rest well my friends our goal is still within reach and we need to keep our spirts high as we await the coming blessings. Thank you for all the good things that have come along as we travel down this road in the final lap of our trek.





so Okie is jumping back into the thick of things?



LASZLO- DID HIS PLANE LAND YET?



Laszlo....It was always in the plan of the intel people that Okie would be the man to make a certain announcement, since he was primarily the man who let the cat out of the bag in the first place.
I think he should change his name to Job.




 
Did anyone listen to the Okie conference so-called I've only read briefly Recaps but it sure doesn't sound like things he would say it actually sounds a lot like Joseph or Bruce even I mean the writing anyway I don't know about listening to it. Whenever I see so many try and explain Zim as a bond it's a major red flag just saying



Okies connection is Dick Chaney supposedly



 
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I RESPECT OKIE, BUT HIS PREDICTIONS HAVEN'T BEEN ANY BETTER THEN THE REST



 
Good morning a quick drive-by as my husband is in the hospital and I need to get there. I tried to listen to the call with Okey last night but the call kept shutting off and said it wasn't available did anyone else have that problem?



The way I took what Okie said was it was to Start, not that we would be in the bank today.... " I have been told that our rv will occur from 6 pm tonight til 9 am in the morning. That will be the *official time it will start*"



 
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GOOD MORNING. QUICK DRIVE BY. NEWS IS MAKING ME BELIEVE SOMETHING IS GOING ON FOR SURE BEHIND THE SCENE AS I HAVE BEEN DATING FOR THE PAST TWO WEEKS BUT THE END GAME IS STILL SNOWING CERTAIN.



Saying not dating.



Good Morning! Heard Okie on call last night, he really sounded good. I wonder who could be the second from the top to give him intel and it now after 9 am in the east?



Well...it doesn't really matter anymore....once again a smoke & mirrors prediction...the proof is on the puddin!!! We are still not exchanging yet!!! ( sigh!!!) It is not Okie's fault!!! The ptb passed the fake intel to him....he simply passed it on to us!





LIsten, an rv and a ce are 2 separate things. No necessarily one right after the other. After an rv there are still plenty of delaying tricks (err, excuses lol) they can keep pulling out, like the 'ole standard one: " Oh, there was a minor glitch and we need 24-48 hrs to straighten it out".

Remember, the guru who was incarcerated once said the rv occured a couple of years ago (I heard it on his cc), and lot of peeps believed it because of who was saying it.



GM all....if it really did start, some members here are in groups. I know one said he would let us know if he gets called to go in. so again we, WAIT (But hey, it's GREAT to be in the line few even know about!)



If the admiral himself told me it was going to hsppen tomorrow i would not pass it on until im out of the bank, it just hurts too much to be wrong for the hundredth time



See "Few" - well, only about 5 million of us, depending on which guru you choose to believe. Still, a good place nonetheless, I suppose.



ej. If this doesn't pan out fairly quick after last night's prognostigation, okie's judgement may take a hit. But for the time being we'll all give him a pass and wait and see.



 
snickers, I know it's grown even since I got in but I still have NO ONE to look in the eye and share the journey with. Very Thankfully I do have two friends (a couple) I can at least talk on the phone with who are are this journey. The 5 million are in hiding if they are near me.. Ha!

Okie did say it was not a Sure Thing...but did stress he got it from a very good contact. I still want to hear it if someone thinks their source is Very credible like that.



See I know of what you speak. Me too. There are only 2-3 people that I would talk to about this (not including my spouse), but I choose not to. I've put a very tight lid on things.



 
it's process! the fact that Okie got reliable information and he decided to pass it on was great...it's a starting time in which the RV could begin...NOT that you are going to thebank just yet! Also Admin just stated he is hearing that the curtain is starting to snow! Enjoy your day and be happy!



Because of the gift letter thing, I told our son. He thinks I'm a loon now. Wish I had known I could set up at trust for him after, and just pass money over from our trust afterwards. oh well.

I agree with you mangelo. I really think it's started and we are not in a position to see it.....Yet.




 
I see we have three 8's in todays date, if I understand correctly. Aug is 8th month---Day 17 is 1+7=8----year is 2017 (1+7=8 ) #8 is New Beginnings



 
mangelo ... what you said below ... "the curtain is starting to snow??" Hmmmm ....



Hope AB will explain the Snow thing.....typo? or not?....he does live where it snows. We don't use the word snow word down here in the south.



 
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I think it may have something to do with a snowball's chance .....



RC: How did you like elmer12345's post about his contact in Iraq! Sweet!



 
drl, that post by Elmer is from July and I believe it was referring to the bonds, not sure, but someone else said it was referring to the bonds.



 
Not so good for the Stock Markets today. Could be a good thing for us,



Trying to figure out which bill to pay or hold off and use what cash is left for food and utilities



 
WHERE DID THIS BENNY GUY COME FROM, NEVER HEARD OF HIM



Says he has been around for 4 yrs



One day a week or so ago he showed up on my YouTube feed

 
I think most are sick and tired of all the nonsense in Dinarland - nothing left really to say - let it just happen.



 
sand are you in gladiators, if so, benny has been there for awhile.



 
No, never heard of them. I've been in Dinarland less than 2 years



 
From my Cuban friend -- Benny's Spanish report is the same as the one he did about the Zim and the bolivar. He told everyone to be ready.



Sand did u see the benny video on the zim



 
One day he talked about it, IHO he thought it is worthless. He's pro on the other currencies



HEY GKEL AND RC WHAT COLOR DO WANT THE MOD TO BE? SINCE YOU ARE THE ONLY MODS ON IT WILL BE YOUR CHOICE



I HAD A FEW GOOD FOLKS THAT COULDN'T SEE WITH WHITE BACKGROUND. RED IT IS AND RED IT WILL BE



 
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STILL HEARING POSITIVE INFO BUT I HATE TO BASE EVERYTHING OF MAYBE WHEN...



 
Ted hope you doing ok with the bills



Hanging in there Diva Plan to pay what I can till the money runs out



Snickers, I'm thinking if it doesn't go this weekend, it won't be until after the 21st into next month only.



To think last year at this time I paid double to get the rush service to renew my passport. lol

Snickers, I think of all the time I ordered currency I wasted money on expedited delivery. Crazy......
by Ssmith
on Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:20 pm
 
Search in: DinarLand Drama Daily
Topic: WSOMN Thursday Drama 8/17/17
Replies: 2
Views: 889

SCAM ALERT - Guru DebTarTeelGirl 6/21/17

DebTarHeelgirl:  SCAM ALERT!!!

DO NOT GIVE YOUR CURRENCY TO ANYONE UNTIL YOU ARE AT THE BANK SITTING IN FRONT OF A LEGITIMATE UST REGISTERED RV EXCHANGE OFFICER.
 
I have had 3 different people in the last week contact me, they received great news about a group exchanging NOW, no matter what the rate was, they were "going to the bank to exchange". (Red Flag # 1)
 
SIGHT UNSEEN, never have ever met these people, never took the time to research these exchangers, one group said they were attorneys. (Red Flag # 2)
 
Guess what - they went to this official looking office.  It was stated to them "this particular office was set up for "private reasons" off site of any bank" (Red Flag # 3)


In two (2) of these incidences - the currency holders were told their currency would need to be left with them in order to have permission to credit them "FASTER" (Red Flag # 4)
 

Then the so called "exchanger" of the last of a "Privileged Group" asked if numerous alleged "necessary steps" had been done...  naturally these precious peeps never even heard or knew what was "necessary" (Red Flag # 5)
 
Upon answering "NO" not having done the "necessary steps", they were told it was mandatory to leave their currency with them (Red Flag # 6) as they were collecting it for the Government SINCE IT WAS WORTHLESS! (Red Flag # 7)
 
Another "exchanger" stated to leave it with them and the currency holder got a receipt with the currency holders name on it, a date, and only a number, that's right a digit only (Red Flag #8) - no exchange information, nor who the exchangers were, no future appointment info, NO CONTACT INFO AT ALL and now they know they have been duped!
 
Please, DebTarHeelGirl has done nothing but encourage you all for years and has always said DO NOT TURN IN YOUR CURRENCY TO NO ONE - do not trust anyone sight unseen.

Don't even trust me until you get me checked out, get to know me except please trust the word of God and Faith that I do my best to instill in each of you until our blessing manifests - that you can trust along with my wisest advice such as the above I can give!
 
P.S. Two of these 3 groups have been turned into "The Boy's" thank GOD.  They do try to get our fellow currency holder's currency back to them but its hard without any trace of names and info.

You should never believe early exchanges or be duped to believe even  in person - ONLY A BANK can exchange at the time of the official Global Currency Reset.  AMEN? AMEN!!
 
DO NOT GIVE YOUR CURRENCY TO ANYONE UNTIL YOU ARE AT THE BANK SITTING IN FRONT OF A LEGITIMATE UST REGISTERED RV EXCHANGE OFFICER


All my best to you,Debbie
by Ssmith
on Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:00 am
 
Search in: GURU FICTION & PREDICTION DAILY
Topic: SCAM ALERT - Guru DebTarTeelGirl 6/21/17
Replies: 3
Views: 618

6/16/2012 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

Guru TerryK:  IM HEARING SUNDAY  IF NOT TOMORROW  IS THE WORD I GOT TONIGHT  BUT WHO KNOWS ALL I KNOW I GOT TO GO GET ANOTHER LAY A WAY RIGHT NOW

HEY BLUEDOG  WHATS THE WORD?  YEA THOUGHT YOU LIKE IT.  SO BLUE ARE YOU HEARING WHAT IM HEARING TOMORROW AFTERNOON SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS ABOUT PROSPERITY STUFF AND THEN THE RV.  I GOT FIRST HAND WORD TODAY FROM THE MAN AND THEN FROM ANOTHER CONTACT SO LETS SEE IF THIS GOES DOWN

YOU GUYS ARE DOING GREAT,  SO BE SURE TO LET MICHIGNADER AND MAC KNOW WHEN YOU TALK TO THEM.   OH HECK THERE IS MAC NOW   HEY MAC


Guru OkieOilman:  I AM EXPECTING TO POST A PRE-CURSOR INFORMATIONAL POST SOON--NO--IT IS NOT "THE POST"----EXPECTED SOON PRAYERFULLY

dinarmama7: WHEN THE RATE GOES LIVE AT THE BANKS, DO NOT DISCUSS ANY RATES THAT ARE SHOWING OR THAT WE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO BY CODES ON THIS SITE OR ANY OTHER SITE. IT IS A LAW AND WE CANNOT DISCUSS IT. WE ARE TO SHARE IT WITH ONE ANOTHER BY PHONE OR EMAIL OR TEXT OR PERSONALLY, JUST LIKE WE GOT INTO THIS INVESTMENT. NOT ON SITES!!!!!! UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES CAN IT BE POSTED PUBLICLY. DO NOT CALL THE BANKS UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!!!!!!!!!

gypsymama: OKIE IS THE ONLY OFFICIAL AUTHORIZED POSTER AS FAR AS WELLS FARGO, THEIR CODES AND THEIR INFORMATION. NO ONE!! NO ONE!! NO ONE ELSE IS AUTHORIZED TO POST THAT INFORMATION! OKIE IS THE ONLY AUTHORIZED PERSON THAT HAS BEEN ASKED TO CALL THE RV WHEN IT OCCURS. AND THAT IS FROM THE HIGHEST SOURCE. (*)

I HAVE A LONG POST PLEASE NO TYPING.

Posted with the help of the grass roots Exchange Code team This has been a roller coaster week filled with rumor after rumor. We have personally spent each day this week debunking rumors…the biggest being that there have been people that have cashed out. Folks this is not true. No one has cashed out. In fact the term “cashed out” is not a correct term.

The more correct term is “Exchanged Out” since we will be exchanging dinar (IQD Cash) for dollars (USD Cash). Please all dinarians remember one very simple fact: all the rumors are just that…RUMORS! Always consider any and all information you get as rumors until you see one of two things:

#1 - A live rate on the public site such as www.forex.com and/or

#2 Our group banker calls and says “Here is your Exchange Code…come into the bank!” and you have the Exchange Code in your possession.

We can tell you with great confidence that great progress has been made this last week by the entities that are heading up the Iraqi Dinar and VN Dong RVs. They are very carefully controlling and limiting the amount of information released so that they can get their job done.

So please don’t take RUMORS as fact. Remember what we really care about is live public rate and/or our Exchange Code telling us to come to the bank! Therefore my advice to you is to relax and wait for the FREE Exchange Code and Instructions to come to you via your group or via one of the email auto responders that will be available.

Once you have that information review it in detail, ask question to the banker, and make your decision to what you want to do…use the Exchange Code or not…your choice. Remember the KISS theory…Keep It Simple Stupid…it is very simple. Check it out and you make your choice. It’s a grand plan and what a great way for God’s Wealth Transfer to be even greater! Have a great weekend and Happy Father’s Day to all the Dads! P.S. Dinarians please review this previously posted info from the grass roots Exchange Code Team

This is a grassroots effort originally done to help family and friends.. This has grown into a much larger effort and we just wanted to help all currency holders get the best rate possible in the future . Please feel free to forward this information on to the appropriate individuals as desired.

Point #1: Maybe the bank wants your business: if there is an exchange code and instructions that a bank decides to issue, that would secure the bank’s offered exchange rate, that is the bank’s business. Did you ever think that maybe the bank is willing to pay a little more to get your business? Is that called free enterprise and maybe the price the bank is willing to pay to secure a new customer? Have you ever become a grocery store customer because of a grocery coupon they offered

Point #2: Check it out first: if there is a bank-issued exchange code and instructions, the individuals who have it can go to the bank offering it to check it out and compare it to other currency exchange entities. They are encouraged to shop around. If the individuals don’t want to use it or think it is bad deal then that is their choice. They don’t have to use it. Have you ever checked out a grocery coupon and compared prices?

Point #3: No fees or commissions: NO money or fees should ever be collected from a third party. The bank-issued exchange code will be FREE, once the bank issues it. No one has or is being asked to pay a third party for the exchange code that the bank issues to facilitate an easier exchange process, and to secure a rate that the bank wants to give a group. Have you ever received free grocery coupons that have been given to a club, church, or website mailing list?

Point #4: No third parties: the exchange process is, and will always be between a licensed entity, such as a bank, and the currency owner. Never use a third party or give your currency to a third party for exchange. Have you ever had to sign a contract to use a grocery coupon?

Point #6: No bank-issued exchange code yet: the bank has not yet issued any exchange code or instructions to make the exchange easier, which at that time, will be more beneficial to the currency holder and bank. Once there is a real bank-issued exchange code and instructions, then check it out for yourself and decide if you want to use it. (Point #2). Talk directly to the bank and ask them all the question you desire. Have you ever tried to use a grocery coupon before it has been issued or before the start date of the coupon?

Point #7: No smoke and mirrors: it is really very simple. The bank issues their exchange code and instructions to individuals and group members. Individual members get it FREE and check it out for themselves. Each individual and or group member decides to use or not use it. No contract, no money paid, no fees, totally in the individual’s control. Have you ever used a FREE grocery coupon?

Point #8: Get trusted & professional counsel: it is good common sense and always recommended that a person get counsel from their own trusted friends, family, personal financial planner, CPA, and legal counsel before entering into any transaction. Have you ever asked someone if a grocery coupon is good deal and/or real?

Point #9: Check facts before writing: everyone is recommending that you check out your facts before you start writing any unsubstantiated ideas and thoughts. Have you ever checked out the source of a grocery coupon before telling your friends it is not real?

OK DONE - GONE


Guru BGG:  I talked to Poppy earlier - he sounds waaaaaay better than he has up to now. That's good. I'll be working on something of a post tonite and expand on my thoughts for tomorrow. Things are very well with the RV - we should be just fine.

Things are moving along very well.  I got further confirmation, everything I have been pointing to...are all EXACTLY RIGHT on target!! We’re in great shape right now.

Maliki offering up a resignation letter is legit…I believe he wants to get everything in his agreements implemented (and quick). The only way anyone will listen is if he shows them he’s serious. However, on the same point, because he has such a bad track record – they are proceeding with the “no confidence” as though they intend to remove him. Which they do…I suspect the 21st (as soon as Parliament show back up to work) to be Maliki’s D-Day!!

If you’ve ever had a crooked ref in a ball game you know what it looks like – Talibani might not be crooked, but if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck – what’s the difference?? He’s threatening to resign as of yesterday – which doesn’t really matter since he already gave his resignation letter to Barzani a month ago.  All this we’re hearing is mostly “posturing” – nothing more. The reality is, if a deal isn’t fully complete by Thursday – the fireworks start. Simple as that.


Guru Vic1:   June 20th...is Maliki's Birthday! He is gonna get a Party...alright!   By...INVITE ONLY!!  


Guru Med:  ON CHAPTER VII    DID I NOT SAY    THAT BAN KI MOON    WOULD NOT ALLOW IRAQ OUT OF CHAPTER VII   ON JUNE 15TH   AND I KNOW HE USED SOME OF THE ISSUES WITH KUWAITI FILES   BUT IT IS NOT THE ENTIRE ISSUE

    REMEMBER CHAPTER VII    IS NOT ABOUT ORIGINALLY THE KUWAITI FILES   THEY DIDNT EXIST THEN   IT WAS A THREAT   AND WHAT HAS TRANSPIRED   CORRUPTION RUNNING RAMPANT   AND THAT A MAJORITY OF BLOCS   WANT TO OUST THE CURRENT PRIME MINISTER


Guru Bluwolf:  YOU ARE CORRECT,,THIS TIME ALL IS DIFFERENT AND PLEASE BE ALL ADVICE THAT BACK IN THE PAST ALL POSTINGS WERE ALSO CORRECT BUT THERE WERE ISSUES WORLDWIDE THAT HAD TO BE TAKEN CARED OF,,NOW ALL NEWS ARE LEADING YOU TO THE RESULTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN WAITNG ON SO YES IT IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.   THE HORIZON IS NEAR. [READ BETWEEN THE LINES}


Guru BWM:  well here we are at another weekend, which will hopefully shut at least one person up and keep Okie from having to answer the phone all day from them also, since that’s who they sit on the phone with all day (according to them)… on the “REAL” dinar front, news is really good and as much as I hate that “never been closer” the reality is that every day we are…
I think the banks will have to deal with it sometime…BUT I do know it causes issues with branches… last year another “guru” who I had been speaking with about a cashin location that had a de la rue machine had the bright idea of putting out the banks number, contact name and phone number… needless to say when I tried to reach back to my contact they said they would not speak about currency and basically shut down their number…

 it only takes one “genius” on the chat boards to do something intentionally stupid in the name of “good faith” to mess up things when you consider the ramifications of the numbers going out..  it’s the same principle for ppl who say their 100% sure it won’t “go another weekend” or such… why would you even come back after that statement… but they do… and they “sign off” saying they won’t post anymore… but they do… over and over…


Guru 20MillionDinar:  The IQD is backed by the US Dollar, Euro, and Great British Pound with the majority of their reserves being US Dollars. So, what does this mean? If the USD all of a sudden crashes (which it won't) then the IQD will also crash. People have been pumping this "commodity backed currency" on these dinar forums, however, no currency is backed by gold. Period. Every currency is a fiat currency. Some currencies move in tight correlation with commodities such as the Australian Dollar, Canadian Dollar, New Zealand Dollar, and the Mexican Peso. But, even these are not commodity backed currencies. Hope this helps. By the way, by repeating these untrue things that you hear circulating on these public forums actually spreads these false rumors even more. Then even more people get tricked and start saying things that are completely untrue. The cycle repeats... In my opinion, more people should learn to do a little research.


Guru Mike:    "The Central Bank of the project to delete the zeros need to be concerted efforts by the government and parliament"  ...this article pretty much point blank tells you that the Central Bank is in charge of the process and that they are the ones that are going to take care of all of the deleting of the zeroes and anything that has to do with the monetary policy...there also still letting the people know they are still moving forward...we've got our plan and we are working our plan...we believe sometime before they delete these zeroes they are going to go ahead and revalue.

they are...attempting to...MAKE SURE ALL OF THE BANKS CAN EXCHANGE CURRENCY - very important that he eliminate the street dealers so that he can eliminate the fluctuations in the currency - he doesn't want to have his internal and external rates fluctuate that wildly ever again - they need to be very consistent - whatever he posts on the CBI he really would like to see internally in the country - Once he has his banking system in place he gets rid of most of the street dealers then he can stabilize his currency moving forward - Sounds like they are in a hurry to stabilize their currency and get these things set up...a stable currency is our best friend for things that are going to happen. 


Guru Hammerman:   Maliki has resigned...He has signed on for everything....(that we want) and / but his resignation will not take effect till October or beyond so disregard ALL the " pro-con - He's there-He's gone " stuff from now on. We were set to R/V last night.  The bombings that took place stopped it. From here on ONLY: CIVIL UNREST-BOMBING DEATHS / Terrorist Activity can interefere with the RV for up to 48 hours or longer after an incident. This is something we will have to deal with as an ongoing issue. The "Bad Guys" may purposely do this to interfere / stop it. Therefore there will be a lot of MIS-direction and secrecy regarding the R/V...It will be much harder to follow. 

I got confirmation Maliki has resigned. He signed off on everything.  He's not going anywhere anytime soon though. Maliki's resignation was time stamped for October.  The only thing that can stop the RV would be civil unrest.  We were set to RV last night.  It was supposed to go yesterday but the bombings that took place stopped it.  Banking activity last night was phenomenal!!  Iraq dinar started out at 41 cents at bank screens.  Last speculated rate was above $3.50.  The VND was at 11 cents, speculated to go to 15 to 16 cents.  Banks are saying the RV will go down this weekend!!  I gotta cal from Homeland Security and there has also been some huge movement with gold.  Some gold and paper currency was sent to the IMF.  It's something to prepay for RV debt.  Another contact said it has to do with Greece.  All sources are extremely happy right now.


Guru SoonerFan62:  GOOD EVENING GUYS, YES I HAVE BEEN LURKING FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF HOURS WATCHING THE U.S. OPEN. TO ANSWER GrannieAnnie'S QUESTION, YES I DO BELIEVE THE MODS ARE NUTS, BUT LOVE ALL OF THEM. SATURDAY NIGHT, LOOKING FOR A PARTY AND THINK I HAVE FOUND ONE.

 ON A SERIOUS NOTE THE INTEL TODAY HAS BEEN VERY EXCITING, CAN'T SAY A LOT BUT HAVE TALKED TO OKIE MANY TIMES TODAY AND EVEN THOUGH HE IS EXTREMELY TIRED HE IS VERY EXCITED WHERE WE ARE. HE TOLD ME IF I CAME IN CHAT TONIGHT TO SEND HIS LOVE TO EVERYONE AT INTEL 4U.

MY INTEL IS NOT OKIE, I HAVE MY OWN, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW. GUYS I WILL SAY, I HAVE BEEN ON THE PHONE WITH ALL THE TOP INTEL PROVIDERS, AND WE HAVE ALL BEEN JOKING AND LAUGHING ALL DAY, IN A REAL GOOD MOOD. WITH ALL THAT SAID, UNDERSTAND WE ARE REALLY CAREFUL WITH WHAT WE SAY RIGHT NOW AND I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND WHY, BUT I WILL ANSWER WHAT I CAN IN THE SOONERFAN62 WAY, DIRECT. LOL

I'M EXCITED ABOUT TONIGHT.  I'LL SAY THIS, WATCH OKIES POSTS REAL CLOSE.   ok guys on a serious note, i am going to bed and i told sq i would call her immediately after hanging up with okie. I will leave my phone on tonight because we are expecting great things, read between the lines. Thanks to all of you @intel4u for allowing me to have a great time tonight on chat. Love all of you and just know that we are there. All the fathers out there, have a wonderful day tomorrow and hope it's the best fathers we have ever had with the exception of the birth of our children. Good night all, love you very, very much


Guru Austin-Powers-For-PM:  We have known for sometime that June would be a big month what with the institution of the Tariffs in Iraq, and the possible lifting of Chapter 7 (which didn't happen, and should have been easily predicted).

 Some have said that this RV will come like a "Thief in the Night" but with the magnitude of what has been proposed and the staffing level that would need to be present at financial institutions world wide, it would be like trying to hide an elephant in your back yard.

Then we had the Greek elections on May 6th that were so inconclusive that they had no choice but to have a do-over on June 17th, thus creating tension and angst in the marketplace.

Voila, the PTB's had their date to put banks on full alert knowing that the potential of Syriza and Alexis Tsipras victory in Greece would freak out the markets and thus the need for an "all hands on deck" event.

 If we look in parallel at the articles that are coming out of Iraq today announcing that the political crisis will suddenly come to an end in the next day or two, it tells us that we have a major event arriving in the next day or two.

Even if it doesn't hit on Sunday, the Greek political drama will give plenty of cover over the next 5-7 days for this to happen.

IMO, the only reason this doesn't happen by the end of June is if Maliki stops a No Confidence vote in Parliament and comes out stronger than ever, and if the Pro-Bailout parties win in Greece and reaffirm the bailout, giving more time for the Euro Zone to dither around with their future.  Both would have to happen to stall the RV.


Guru Phoenix3333:  Iraq and UN Security Council Meeting Tuesday, June 19th 2012.  UN Security Council Meeting with Iraq will be on Tuesday, June 19th. June 15 was when the Iraq/DFI report was due.


Guru Facilitator Dinar Recaps:  All of us at Dinar Recaps would like to thank all our loyal readers on our ONE YEAR Anniversary.

When we started our Blog on June 17th, 2011 we did not imagine that a year later we would be posting PRE-RV stories and posts.  But here we are, still posting all the stories we like to read ourselves from all the other Dinar Forums and chat rooms everyday.

We started with only two people posting 10 posts on a good day with one daily email newsletter.  Our team has grown, as has the amount of posts every day and sending 18 email newsletters every week.  We have made around 10,000 posts on our main Blog page, sent millions of emails out, and tens of million page hits in one short year.

From the very beginning we wanted to keep the website free for everyone AND free of any direct advertisements from any Dinar Dealer.  What we post is not influenced by anyone except our teams interest in those stories and wanting to share them with our readers.  We have never taken one penny from any Dinar Dealer.  We do have ads from Google which revenues pays for the website expenses and are thankful to our readers who have had interest in those ads in the past.

We want to thank our team members who are scouring all the forums and chat rooms day and night and all the people who email us stories to post as well as all the people in the Dinar Community who allow us to repost their stories, posts, and chat conversations on our Blog pages.

We do like to hear from our readers, so the comments are open on this post, which will be posted after approval.

Best to all,
The Dinar Recaps Team
by Ssmith
on Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:51 am
 
Search in: MANY MANY YEARS AGO in DINAR-LAND
Topic: 6/16/2012 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND
Replies: 0
Views: 1123

6/9/2012 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

Guru Vic1:   I spoke to UN...directly...Chapter 7...does not interfere...with Revaluing a Currency!!! June 15, 2012...unsc...will meet..for iraq/kuwait file!!!  No Stop signs...KUWAIT....is asking...Please...can we get this Darn Chapter7 non-sense....DONE!!!


Guru OkieOilman:  GOOD EVENING MY FELLOW AMERICANS AND SHIPS AT SEAS. MY SOURCES ARE TELLING ME THAT THIS RV PROCESS IS LOOKING VERY POSITIVE SO KEEP THE FAITH WITH ME WOULD YOU? I AM STILL WAITING, AS YOU ARE, FOR "THE CALL” SO I CAN POST WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR - "THE FINAL POST".

DON’T CONCERN YOURSELF WITH HOLDUPS – THERE ARE NONE, A WORLD CHANGING EVENT DICTATES ALL THE I'S GET DOTTED AND ALL T'S CROSSED. YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW HARD IT IS FOR ME KEEP QUIET AT THIS TIME WHEN I’M SO EXCITED ABOUT THE INFORMATION I’M RECEIVING, SO JUST TRUST THAT WHEN WE INTEL PROVIDERS TALK IN CIRCLES, ITS FOR A GOOD REASON SO THANKS FOR YOUR CONTINUED UNDERSTANDING.

THINK ABOUT HOW AWESOME IT WILL BE TO KNOW THAT YOU AND LITTLE OLE ME, HAVE BEEN A PART OF A WORLD CHANGING EVENT. AS A SERVANT OF THE KING, JESUS CHRIST, I AM BLESSED TO BE HERE WITH YOU. I CARE ABOUT YOUR SITUATIONS. PAYDAY IS CLOSE. DON’T LET DISCOURAGEMENT CREEP IN – REMEMBER THAT THIS IS GOD’S WEALTH TRANSFER AND HE IS GETTING IT DONE IN HIS TIME. IF WE REST IN HIS PERFECT TIMING WE WON'T MISS OUT ON ANYTHING THAT HE DESIRES TO GIVE US.

ALL IS BEING DONE FOR OUR BEST END RESULT AND PROTECTION. NO ONE HAS ANY HIDDEN AGENDAS EXCEPT TO BE READY TO EXCHANGE YOUR CURRENCY - SOON. ALL OF THE INTEL GATHERERS ARE WORKING TOGETHER ON A UNIFIED FRONT TO MAKE THIS FINAL PART GO SMOOTHLY FOR YOU. THIS ISN’T THE TIME TO LOSE IT. STAY CALM AND KNOW THAT OUR BLESSING IS COMING SOON.

SO GO OUT TOMORROW AND BE A BLESSING TO SOMEONE. LET’S PRACTICE GIVING NOW. SHOW SOME LOVE, AFTER ALL WE ARE HIS FOOTSTEP FOLLOWERS.   GONE FOR NOW

I AM HOPING AND EXPECTING TO BE OUT FROM UNDER THE GAG ORDER SOON--HOW SOON?---I DON'T KNOW FOR SURE.   I HATE THESE FUZZY FEEL GOOD--HANG ON--IT'S COMING--POST'S--BUT---I AM NOT IN CONTROL OF THE RELEASE OF THE FINAL POST

THE ISSUE THAT BOTHERS ME MOST IS THAT IN THE PAST I HAVE SHARED EVERYTHING--SOMETIMES DAY'S AHEAD--NOW NOT TO BE ABLE TO STATE THE INTEL IS ABOUT TO MAKE ME IMPLODE.  I AM HOPING THE FINAL POST WILL BE AN EX-LAX POST--(ONE THAT REALLY MOVES YOU).   YOU GUY'S WANTING AN EXACT TIME---WELL----GOD DOESN'T WEAR A WRIST WATCH

I AM FINE AND VERY OPTIMISTIC THAT PRAYERS WILL BE ANSWERED BEFORE LONG.   I HAVE BEEN ASKED BY MANY WHAT THE FIRST THING I AM GOING TO DO AFTER THE CURRENCY EXCHANGE TRANSPIRES---I RESPOND--I AM GOING TO HAVE A MEDICALLY INDUCED COMA FOR ABOUT 3 WEEK'S --THEN WAKE UP AND DECIDE WHAT TO DO

 MY DOCTOR WAS DR.KEVORKIN--BUT HE'S GOT ANOTHER 30 YEARS TO SERVE--SO I GUESS I WILL FIND SOME OTHER QUACK TO DIRECT MY ATTENTION TOO

MY LAST REQUEST BEFORE I DIE IS TO HOLD HAND'S WITH A LAWYER ON 1 SIDE OF THE BED AND A BANKER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BED--I WAS ASKED WHY?--AND I REPLIED-----WELL JESUS DIED BETWEEN 2 THIEVES.  
I HAVE ALL AMERICAN DUMP DOG'S.   I LIVE OUT IN THE COUNTRY AND AT THE END OF BIRD HUNTING SEASON--ALL THE RICH DOCTORS AND LAWYERS THAT DON'T WANT TO FEED THEIR THOUSAND DOLLAR BIRD DOG'S ANOTHER YEAR--DUMP THEM ON ME----NEXT TIME I GO TO TOWN--I TAKE THEM 2 500 DOLLAR CAT'S-  I LOVE ALL ANIMALS--------EVEN THOSE WE VOTED FOR IN WASHINGTON.  EVEN GOD HAS A SENSE OF HUMOR--DONT BELIEVE IT?---LOOK AT A GIRAFFE'S NECK

HAVEACHAT--I WILL HAVE NO PART WHATSOEVER IN A COMMERCIAL VENTURE PROSTITUTING THE OKIE OIL MAN NAME--THIS WAS TO BE A FREE--NO PROMOTION--NO PRODUCT--NO SERVICE PROMOTED BY ME VENTURE. MY ONLY AGENDA IS TO BE ONLY A MESSENGER ONLY AND TO NEVER PROFIT PERSONALLY ----JUST WANT TO HELP THOSE WHO MAY NOT HAVE GAINED THE CONTACTS I WAS FORTUNATE OVER THE LAST 43 YEARS TO GET TO KNOW----I HAVE CAME TO TRUELY REALIZE WHAT THAT OLD ADDAGE MEANS THAT SAY'S----IT'S NOT WHAT YOU KNOW--IT'S WHO YOU KNOW THAT COUNTS

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRUE OR NOT---BUT SOMEONE TOLD ME TODAY THAT BULLDOG WAS PICKED UP BY ANIMAL CONTROL FOR NOT HAVING A COLLAR

LET'S ALL REMEMBER PAPA 3 IN OUR PRAYERS AFTER HIS FALL OFF HIS HORSE

I WAS DOING THE TEXAS 2 STEP BEFORE MOST OF YOU WAS BORN--DANCED MANY TIMES TO LEON McAULIFF AND HANK THOMPSON AND BOB WILL'S AND OTHER WESTERN SWING BAND'S.  REMEMBER BEFORE OBAMA--WE HAD BOB HOPE AND JOHNNY CASH--AFTER OBAMA--NO HOPE-NO CASH

BELIEVE THIS--BEFORE I AM THRU--THERE WILL BE NO THIRSTY CHILDREN IN SOMALIA OR NIGERIA OR GUATEMALA OR HAITI----THIS I GUARANTEE.  I NEED ANOTHER 20 YEARS----I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE DINAR 63 DOG YEARS

GONNA HEAD FOR THE HANGAR--IF ANYTHING NEW COMES IN--I WILL POST NO MATTER WHAT TIME OF DAY OR NIGHT IT IS BECAUSE I AM EXPECTING THE FINAL POST SOON (HOPEFULLY)--GOOD NIGHT--REALLY ENJOYED LETTING MY HAIR DOWN TONIGHT (WHAT I HAVE LEFT)


Guru Bulldog75:  'Our Window is Still Wide Open'. We Keep the Faith Knowing our Time and RV is Inevitable. We Believe. We are Blessed and Highly Favored. Feel that cool Breeze. Keep your Windows open.

No obstacles in Sight. Nothing but Blue Skies is What I see.


Guru BellaGrits:  Hello all..... things seem to be moving rather swiftly at this point.....I would like to thank you in advance for your kind understanding of Intel being non-specific, as we want this thing over as bad as you do--I assure you!! Please be aware we are about to experience many changes in many areas for the good....we also need to be aware of all the precautions to take per instructions and advice given over the past few months.

It's time to focus on POST RV, peeps. You have all the knowledge you need to be very successful!! Things look better than ever..... know you are blessed.....therefore, I know you will bless others..... Love you all very much!

I've missed the castle--love this room....love the people and what we stand for here.....


Guru Mike:    Maliki, the cat of Nine Lives, has certainly staved off vote of No-Confidence at this point...Talabani has decided that he really wants to work this out amongst the presidencies and...Kurds have kinda flown back to Kurdistan...trying to figure out what there next possible plan of action is...they realize they want to pressure - they want to get the 140 implemented and they want to get the things that have been decided on done and ready to go...we don't have a dog in the race other than we want to see the government formed well enough so they can RV and obviously Shabibi seems to be moving at breakneck speed to try and stave off these things to get this done.

We want to see 140 implemented - we read about the 140 Commission saying it is pretty much here - we have the groundwork laid...lets go ahead and figure out how to solve the 140.  Now some people will say well they are signing contracts then that means they must have it in place - Truly you can't have the 140 in place because they are telling us they don't - so it means all of these things being signed are unconstitutional.


Guru Cap1:     WE SHOULD BE DONE IN DAYS OR MAYBE HOURS, I DON'T HAVE THE TIME CLOCK BUT I KNOW IT'S CLOSE...SO VERY CLOSE.  KNOW THAT OUR TIME OF VICTORY AND COMPLETION DRAWS NEAR, WE ARE ON THE BRINK OF HISTORY.


Guru Blaino:   WE HEARD THIS MORNING THAT THERE WERE RUMBLINGS IN THE SANDBOX.  MEDIA SEEMS IN A BIT OF A TIZZY AND FOLKS ARE ALL HEADING THAT WAY.

MEANWHILE, BACK AT THE GOI, STATE OF LAW COALITION IS NOW CLAIMING MANY OF THE SIGNATURES ON THE VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE ARE FORGED, FAKED OR SOMETHING LESS THAN REAL. SOMETHING IS ALSO HAPPENING IN THE MILITARY AS SOME RIPPLES ARE SHOWING UP WORLDWIDE.

COULD BE SOME QUIET ALERT TO READY SPECIAL FORCES AND OR MILITARY SUPPORT TROOPS OR PEACEKEEPERS. THERE APPEARS TO ALSO BE SOME FINANCIAL MOTIONS AND SOME WHISPERS ABOUT CREDITORS (READ THAT AS "PARIS CLUB") AND OTHERS WHO HAVE 'PRIORITY' WHERE PAYBACKS ARE CONCERNED.  

WHERE WILL THE $$$ COME FROM?  I HAVE AN IDEA THAT IT COULD ALREADY BE THERE, JUST NEEDS TO BE "REVALUED" TO GET THIS SHOW ON THE ROAD NOW!  THERE IS MUCH MORE THAT MAY DEVELOP IN THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS.  WE CAN ONLY WAIT AND WATCH TO BE SURE, BUT WE DO SEE THINGS HAPPENING AND THE SUBTLE THINGS THAT ARE INDICATORS OF THINGS TO COME ARE DEFINITLY ON THE TURN TO OUR DIRECTION!


Guru Generals64:  I am going to try and be nice here:.....The information that has been floating around sure sounds good... I am (as is kcmana and the group) trying to verify it.... just stay with the team you're with. But, if you are not with a cash out group you should be.... I am not promoting anyone or anything...But, we are all in this together...

Hey:...let's clear the air right now....NONE and I mean NONE of the negotiators on our team is drawing a back from the banks..... That was just stated on one of the other sites....

None of the guys are getting a 10% kickback.... If that can be proven, please let me know and i will personally make sure that guy is not on the team any longer..... Generals64/Roscoe the wonder dog...

That little rumor just came past me and it really burns my butt for people to say those things about these guys that are just trying to help everyone..... Think about this...

If the team negotiates a great rate for ALL OF US then which ones of them will not take that rate simply because they weren't asked?.... Not me....

My name is at the letterhead and I'm willing to wait my turn.... I was even one of the group that agreed to let Okie make the call... Folks, this is a team effort.... If we all go together and work together then we all benefit....

If this is held in a high esteem...my new granddaughter will benefit from this. So will your grandchildren.

These people should be happy that kcmana and Studley have done what they have done... Quit worrying about packages... that will be taken care of later on... Get together and become ONE that's what we should do...

I know, I am a grump and I was a TRUE "OKIE" long before Okie took on the name.... I have the pin and the state registration to prove it..... But, Okie and your group let's ALL Pitch in and work together..... Bear.... back off...   I'm Generals64 and i approve that message...

I'll fight tooth and toenail for anyone (even Hammerman) if all would pull together.... There is so much more to this than is actually being reported.... and it is too complicated....

This is out of the hands of Iraq from what i am hearing and these guys are working diligently to make this happen....There was a bad rumor our Research team was having problems.... NOT.... the only problem we have is kcmana barks like a drill Sargeant... lol

SHE HAS ALL THE INFORMATION SO LOCKED DOWN IT'S SCARY.... I asked her tonight if I was on the list.... I don't even know if i have gotten on it yet. She told me she knew Roscoe was....Dang dog always beats me to the draw...

Here is the simple truth... very simple... Due to the diligence and tenacity of our group (all can get on board and if the name offends them then let it be changed)this has been settled within the banking system.

it will be so simple some will be confused.... I told the group to make sure all that are involved are taught and ready to help the people on the cash in procedures.....

If you are not a member of any Group you will yourself in the butt before the day is over.... That is all i can say about that.... If ANYONE tells you any different make sure you don't use their help when you are TRYING to cash out... Promise...  


Guru BobGetz6:  Yet another long weekend except for a basketball final this evening. I know that the banks are ready, the world is ready. This may be out of Iraq's hands to some, but until the political unrest, or so we have heard, is settled, I don't see a definate end.

I see the talking graclles, like birds sitting on a wire, telling us at least two different stories as to what is going on. I barely listen to them anymore as things NEVER come to pass as speculated on. There is the constant rumor mill which people read, take to heart, and then are disappointed.

 I truly believe that there is an awesome battle going on between the good and evil PTB. Good will eventually win out, JMO, but how long will it take? What power or force will force a resolution? I don't know, so I, along with the rest of you wait. I am not waiting happily nor patiently, but end dates to me, as told by the grackles, is beyond my scope of understanding.
Guru Checkmate Dan:  really good info. Sounds kinda the same to me anymore.. doesn’t seem that big of a deal.. just want to give a small update for the members on a Saturday..

Bank codes proof and validation there has been trillions moved form BIS to IMF agree to trans money to XYZ..

That took place about 4 to 5 weeks ago..

Ex.. China to England.. You are going to transfer trillions.. it takes about 3 weeks to verify where it came from … a lot of stuff goes into verifying where the money came from.

Once verified, the people we are talking to are excited.. now once that took place the banks are starting to get overconfident… and banks were getting upset… there has been this big game with the banks… now we get to the last 2 weeks.. and the trillions are now getting moved and used.


Guru Gary: 
We don't know at this point what's going on with Maliki.  We're getting conflicting reports from our sources.  One says he's out, one says he's in.

Shabibi and Barzani both said they don't want Maliki out.  I don't think we're going to know though for sure because they don't want us to know. 

It seems like they are readjusting, mid course correcting and trying to make this work.  They may just want Erbil, Ministers, HCL and then he can stay.  If you have some dice, lets roll them. 


Guru Bluwolf:  AS I FIND MYSELF LOST IN A DREAM I KNOW THAT WHILE I AM LOST I AM CONFIDENT IN THE FAITH OF MY LORD. ALL DOORS SHALL BE OPEN TO ALL AND PROSPERITY SHALL BE RECIEVED ONCE YOU ENTER, THOW ALL SHALL BE DONE ON HIS TIME AND SILENCE NOW REIGNS IT IS THEN THAT OUR GOD IS IN CONTROL..GOD BLESS ALL BLUWOLF


Guru Kaparoni:  We seemed to miss this. Good article shows what the CBI is doing now, before they implement this event. "Deletion of zeros depends on the control of the Central Bank of the dinar exchange rate Finance Committee representative confirmed that the implementation of the project to delete the zeros of the Iraqi currency and restructuring depends on the extent of control and control of the CBI of the exchange rate of the dinar against the dollar, as called for the adoption of policies of a new monetary before the implementation of the project.  The Project to delete the zeros and the restructuring of the currency made by the CBI depends implemented over the control and control of the Iraqi dinar exchange rate against the dollar. The CBI and government in the event will allow them to take actions and policies of a new monetary help to control exchange rates against the dollar and start to delete the zeros.


Guru Cap1:  WE SHOULD BE DONE IN DAYS OR MAYBE HOURS, I DON'T HAVE THE TIME CLOCK BUT I KNOW IT'S CLOSE...SO VERY CLOSE.  KNOW THAT OUR TIME OF VICTORY AND COMPLETION DRAWS NEAR, WE ARE ON THE BRINK OF HISTORY.


Guru Phoenix3333:   "The Economic Committee in the Council of Ministers is going to activate the economic file and has several achievements during the first half of the year 2012.  The most prominent study of all economic agreements with the countries of the world and related projects studying the current budget, investment and everything respect to the amounts reserves and the additional cost of projects outside the powers of the ministries and provinces, verification and validation. The decisions of the Economic Committee, which includes ministers financial, trade, oil, industry, agriculture and the heads of the Investment Authority, Office of Financial Supervision, the CBI in addition to the legal adviser to the Prime Minister and Associate Secretary General for Finance and Economic Advisor in the Office of the Prime Minister shall be bound to the ministries. control breaches of some of the traders to currency auction and success in meeting the real needs of the traders to maintain the strength of the Iraqi dinar."


Guru SoonerFan62:  Good Evening everyone, just wanted to come in and say that some of you really care what I have to say so here goes. I have a very dear friend and his name is OKIEOILMAN and my twin brother by the name of FREEWAYBILL.

They have both made incredible posts tonight. I want all of you to go and re-read them very slowly and understand that even though both have to watch what they say at this point, if you will read between the lines it should tell you all you need to know.

Guys, please no questions because there shouldn't be any. Talked to OKIE just 10 minutes ago, and to say he is exhausted is an understatement. You guys will never know what we owe to these two guys and I am so proud to call them very good friends. With that said, I think I will flirt with all the ladies now for a few minutes.


Guru Luigi1:  Iraq came to the WTO table empty handed & unprepared. They just expected WTO membership to drop right in their lap.

Iraq can't move forward until a new government is formed, all ministers are named & seated & key Bills are passed. This is why WTO talks went nowhere & C7 talks may be set up for another failure.

If C7 talks end in failure, the next UNSC meeting won't be till Jan.  Another sqandered opportunity slips right between their fingers. No doubt the USA will once again be blamed for their own lack of resolve.

Either way, Iraq will form a government & pass key Bills or the UN will do it for them


***Poppy3 Update***  After my last update it came to light Poppy3 had broken 3 ribs and had some internal bleeding as well. He stayed in the hospital yesterday…where they were giving him quite a bit of pain medication.  However, they sent him home last nite – he was not a happy camper. He’s hurt pretty bad and they had already written his discharge – Ouch!!


From Grassroots Leadership Teams:  This is a grassroots effort originally done to help family and friends..  This has grown into a much larger effort and we just wanted to help all currency holders get the best rate possible in the future . Please feel free to forward this information on to the appropriate individuals as desired.

Point #1: Maybe the bank wants your business: if there is an exchange code and instructions that a bank decides to issue, that would secure the bank’s offered exchange rate, that is the bank’s business. Did you ever think that maybe the bank is willing to pay a little more to get your business? Is that called free enterprise and maybe the price the bank is willing to pay to secure a new customer?  Have you ever become a grocery store customer because of a grocery coupon they offered

Point #2: Check it out first: if there is a bank-issued exchange code and instructions, the individuals who have it can go to the bank offering it to check it out and compare it to other currency exchange entities. They are encouraged to shop around. If the individuals don’t want to use it or think it is bad deal then that is their choice. They don’t have to use it. Have you ever checked out a grocery coupon and compared prices?

Point #3: No fees or commissions: NO money or fees should ever be collected from a third party. The bank-issued exchange code will be FREE, once the bank issues it. No one has or is being asked to pay a third party for the exchange code that the bank issues to facilitate an easier exchange process, and to secure a rate that the bank wants to give a group. Have you ever received free grocery coupons that have been given to a club, church, or website mailing list?

Point #4: No third parties: the exchange process is, and will always be between a licensed entity, such as a bank, and the currency owner. Never use a third party or give your currency to a third party for exchange.Have you ever given your grocery coupon to a third party to handle?

Point #5 No contract or agreements: there should NOT be any contracts or agreements with currency holders and a third party for the bank-issued exchange code. Have you ever had to sign a contract to use a grocery coupon?

Point #6: No bank-issued exchange code yet: the bank has not yet issued any exchange code or instructions to make the exchange easier, which at that time, will be more beneficial to the currency holder and bank. Once there is a real bank-issued exchange code and instructions, then check it out for yourself and decide if you want to use it. (Point #2). Talk directly to the bank and ask them all the question you desire. Have you ever tried to use a grocery coupon before it has been issued or before the start date of the coupon?

Point #7: No smoke and mirrors: it is really very simple. The bank issues their exchange code and instructions to individuals and group members. Individual members get it FREE and check it out for themselves. Each individual and or group member decides to use or not use it. No contract, no money paid, no fees, totally in the individual’s control. Have you ever used a FREE grocery coupon?

Point #7: Get trusted & professional counsel:  it is good common sense and always recommended that a person get counsel from their own trusted friends, family, personal financial planner, CPA, and legal counsel before entering into any transaction. Have you ever asked someone if a grocery coupon is good deal and/or real?

Point #8: Check facts before writing:  everyone is recommending that you check out your facts before you start writing any unsubstantiated ideas and thoughts.Have you ever


Thank You, Dinar Recaps: I have been in the Dinar investment for 7 and a half years. I had basically set it aside till last June,(I just realized that is a whole year ago) Since then I have been an avid reader devouring every tidbit I could get my hands on.

There have been some changes, such as:

I have internet access where ever I go. My office has 2 computers, my dining room has my laptop and my bathroom has my Ipod. Always set up on Dinar Recaps. I don’t let any opportunity go by that I don’t read it. And I have my cell phone for when I am out of the house.

My friends and I stopped greeting each other with a simple hello, how are you, It is more like, have you herd … Or did you know…. Even my Mom calls me every day, and doesn’t say hello, but, Are we rich yet? You have to be careful when you call people that you haven’t talked to in a while to start out the call with, No, this isn’t THE PHONE CALL YET.

I don’t get up in the middle of the night just to go to the bathroom, but because I have got to have my fix to make sure the RV didn’t happen while I was asleep. And of course, while I am getting out of bed, my husband mumbles in his sleep to me, Any changes? As if I can know before I even get to the Ipod. He used to mumble, I love you.

I love being at church, learning and being near Gods people. It is no longer telling my stomach just a little bit longer till we go eat. Now, I have to tell my mind that no, I am not going to go to the bathroom so I can sneak a peek at the internet, just a little bit longer till I look.

We used to spend our extra money on vacations or fixing up our house. Forget that, now all our extra money goes into buying us or others Dinar.

Before, when someone would ask us to go out, the answer was always, Sure, lets go. Now I respond with, Plans are all off if the Rv happens before then.

Anyway, now I am wondering what it will be like after the RV. I mean at first we will be very busy positioning our money and all. But after that, can we go back to being normal, (What is that?) I mean, what are we going to do with not having the drive to look at Dinar Recaps every 10 min. I have made myself go 2 whole hours without looking and I wasn’t asleep or in church. I was pretty proud of myself. We will have to learn how to talk a normal conversation to our friends and family all over again. We will get to go on vacations and not be concerned about where the nearest cash in spot is, or how to hide my money. Or how long it takes to get back home. Or make another weekend with, If it RV’s, then I have to wait till Monday for my bank to be open so I can get my money out of the safe deposit box. We will have to learn how to enjoy life again to the fullest, away from the internet. Money doesn’t buy happiness, but it sure makes it more fun to get there. So, go RV!!! I am ready for this season to be over and the next season of my life to begin.
 
by Ssmith
on Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:10 am
 
Search in: MANY MANY YEARS AGO in DINAR-LAND
Topic: 6/9/2012 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND
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"15 Reasons USN Stories Are Great News!" - One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. aka Swervy McGee

Topics tagged under 8 on Dinar Daily Richar45
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15 Reasons USN Stories Are GREAT NEWS!



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[/size][size=16]/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. aka Swervy McGee

 I have been seeing some USN stories lately and it is a CLEAR sign to me that EVERYTHING we want is right on schedule. The USN is the new Gold Backed currency of the Republic. Here is the latest news on the USN:

"Bank intel, USN" by Geoffrey - 2.25.17

It is so interesting that we are looking for clues all over the place to verify that this top secret World Change over is both REAL and immanent, and yet one single item actually PROVES EVERYTHING! Yes, as the title of this post reveals, it is the USN that tells the whole story and is all the proof we need, that we are actually on track to everything we have been told and promised. Here is how...

#1) USN Means Gold Backed

The fact that the USN has been acknowledged by Banking personnel as well as many others, is PROOF that the New Gold Backed Money is really coming.

#2) Gold Backed Means The World

The fact that there really is new USA Gold Backed Money coming means that all the other countries of the World are going Gold Backed as well since there is no way that we would be the only ones changing.

#3) The World Going Gold Backed Means Equality

If all the countries of the World are Going Gold Backed as well, it only works if their currency values are adjusted to be on par with each other.

#4) World Currencies On Par With Each Other

Having all the World's currencies being adjusted to be on par with each other means that those countries who's currency values are greatly undervalued compared to everyone else are going to be adjusted up, WAY UP, to be on par with the other countries. That MEANS THE GCR IS REAL.

#5) If The GCR is REAL

If the GCR is Real, then anyone who happens to be holding currencies that are greatly undervalued, such as the first basket currencies, will realize a HUGE increase in value when said adjustment happens.

#6) No Double Dipping

Because there is an all go, or none go and a deliberate plan to prevent Double dipping, by reinvesting money from one currency revaluation on the next currency revaluation, they will all go at once. Since all the currencies will go at once, that means that THEY WILL ALL GO, and none of them will be left behind.

#7) Stories of The USN Means Treasury Money

Stories of the USN MEANS that it is our new Treasury that is issuing the money. This means that not only is the Fed Dead, but that the REPUBLIC is Alive!

#8) The Republic Alive Means NESARA

The fact that the Republic is alive and in the process of showing itself, means that NESARA, the new governmental structures are also in the Process as well, since the Republic is based on the new NESARA Principles.

#9) NESARA Means GESARA

The fact that NESARA is coming into action here in the Republic of the United States, means that soon the World will be changing over to GESARA, which is the global version of this same governmental structure and principles.

#10) GESARA Means World Peace

Since GESARA is Coming in to Power all over the World, that means that the World will be at peace from now on and War will no longer be permitted or tolerated by any country in the World.

#11) GESARA & World Peace

GESARA and World Peace also signals multiple trusts that will start paying out Trillions of dollars in many different forms to all the people of the World. These include huge trusts such as the St. Germaine Trust, The Lee Wanta Trust, and many others.

#12) NESARA & GESARA Means New Technologies Released

Another important aspect of the NESARA & GESARA implementation is the release of hidden technologies and health remedies that have been held back by the Cabal. This leads to such things as immediate cures for most medical problems and introduction of free energy devices and anti gravity craft to name a few.

#13) NESARA Means Top Level Arrests & Trials Begin

Another important aspect of the NESARA implementation is the immediate arrests of top Cabal operatives, resignation of all current political positions, and new elections for President and other positions. It also means the resignation from the BAR of all attorneys' and retraining them in Constitutional law.

#14) Bank Awareness Of The USN Means Immanent GCR

The fact that Bank employees are aware of, and acknowledge the USN, means that they have been trained on it, and will be available soon. Additionally, many claim it is in their vaults now and will be released soon.

#15) USN Availability Means CGR

There is no way that the GOLD Backed USN can be distributed, unless the GCR has already happened. If the USN is about to be available, that means the GCR is about to happen.

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The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that while USN reports and stories seem to be of little value, they actually PROVE EVERYTHING IS TRUE AND ABOUT TO HAPPEN. The USN availability means World Gold Back GCR, NESARA/GESARA, World Peace, New Technologies and Health remedies, High Level Cabal Arrests and Trials, New Elections, and the Release of countless Trust to the people of the World. In short, when you have Proof of the USN, you have proof of EVERYTHING!

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams

Signed: One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. aka Swervy McGee
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by Ssmith
on Tue May 30, 2017 8:17 am
 
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Topic: "15 Reasons USN Stories Are Great News!" - One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. aka Swervy McGee
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"Re-Cap of the Republic's Operation Sand Paper" - One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. & Scarlet Fox 5/16/17

Re-Cap of the Republic's Operation Sand Paper

It is a very exciting time in Dinarland. On the one hand we are at the VERY LAST step of the GCR roll out, and on the other hand the CABAL are making their most desperate and frankly, VERY LAST attempts to slow it down. I say slow it down, because, now that we have the Military, the Governments, the Financial systems and have all but choked out all means of financing for the now defunct Cabal, stopping the GCR is IMPOSSIBLE.

More Minion Take Downs On IDC

As I have said, the remaining Dregs of the old Cabal, are fighting for a few more days of freedom, but that is a fight they cannot win. Just so you know, there have been two more "Minion Groups" that have been taken down (Into Custody), here on IDC. You don't know who they are because their "Posts" did NOT get published, as they were so vile, and harmful, that they were deemed not worthy. But worthy is an interesting concept, because they were not worthy to be published on our great IDC, but they WERE WORTHY for a personal visit from the Republic Light Forces. It seems that "Intent" to post what they were going to post was enough to be picked up. My friends, "DO NO HARM" is a very real thing, and as I have mentioned before, the Republic has been in "Force" for a couple of years or more. Up until now, they have been "Conducting Operations" in secret.... Until last night!

These Are Desperate Times For The Remaining Minions

Sephora and I have been involved in many of the "Unknown" Republic Take Down operations, and we intend to write about it after the GCR has "Finished" and everyone gets paid. That being said, we were called on again last night, very late. It seems that the Republic Leadership had gotten word of a Massive disinformation campaign planned and actually underway on the net. We are at the end of this ride, and the Minions were going to cause a massive disruption to try to keep it from completing.

We didn't see any of these "Disruptive" posts on our site as the Minions A) Know better than to try us, and B) Get shut down before being posted and in 2 cases were actually picked up as a result. So it is literally dangerous for a minion to try to post Cabal Propaganda on our IDC, as 2 have been picked up just for trying.

However, last night it got interesting and exciting. "Operation Sand Paper" was launched as the First Public, Republic take-down operation and we were invited to help.

Operation Sand Paper

When the Republic first became aware of the pending Cabal disruption threat, there was only one group they came to for help..... You know who..... YES! It was the Powerful and Active Light Workers on IDC!

The details of the Operation were posted last night and the Operation went "LIVE!" Here is the Operation Sand Paper, Light Worker Call to action Post:

http://www.dinardaily.net/t63450-more-threats-from-one-who-knows-richard-lee-mckim-jr-5-15-17

We are well known through the Galactic Fleet. In fact, I talked to Ashtar last night after the Operation had been declared successful, and he said that when the Post for Operation Sand Paper came up on IDC, a "Ripple" went through the fleet, and then he said, that from their vantage point, the ripple then went through the internet as well.

While the Republic has been conducting operations in secret, this is the first time that it has conducted an operation publically, and we were asked to help because we are the Best of the Best. They knew that if they called on us, we would respond in force and we sure did!

The Operation, Step by Step

So, the first thing that happened is that Sephora and I were contacted, but this time Scarlet Fox, who has been involved in past secret operations was asked to be in the lead this time. You don't know her on IDC, but she is an integral part of what has been going on behind the scenes with Sephora and I.

#1) Scarlet Fox and I were Briefed by the Republic Leadership, on the pending Cabal Internet Disinformation attack plan.

#2) Operation "Sand Paper" was born and the plan was to enlist the help of the best Light Workers on the planet. That is you IDC!

#3) We composed the Post announcing the "Operation" and what we wanted the IDC Light Workers to do to help the Republic. Here is that post again for your reference.

http://www.dinardaily.net/t63450-more-threats-from-one-who-knows-richard-lee-mckim-jr-5-15-17

#4) We sent the post to Patrick, but due to the time, Patrick was not posting and as we found out later, was actually sleeping. This was our first obstacle we had to overcome if this newly formed Operation was going to be successful. Importantly, time was critical since the minions had already started their Disinformation attack.

#5) I ended up sending Patrick's dad an email explaining the importance of getting our Operation post up on IDC. Most people don't know that he is active in the Dinar community behind the scenes. He emailed back that Patrick was sleeping and that he would walk over to his place and wake him up.

#6) Patrick woke up and got in to action and posted the Operation Sand Paper post. He stayed up since the Operation was "Hot" which means Happening in REAL TIME.

#7) The leads started coming in quickly, and Patrick forwarded them to Sephora, Scarlet Fox, and I as they came in. As soon as they were received, Republic Forces were dispatched to Deal with the posters and the web sites who cooperated with the Minions.

#8) Many were taken into custody last night and as of this morning, the Republic I.T. professionals are still tracing and tracking down where these posts were coming from. I quote their response to being part of this Operation: "This is what we love to do!" All I can say, is that "When you are on the winning side, jobs like this are fun, like shooting Minions in a barrel!"

#9) The operation was deemed successful and closed by about 2AM in the morning. While the full operation is over, there are still leads coming in and they will all be followed up.

We Are Special

My friends, sometimes it is hard to see yourselves as the outside World, and Galactics see you. As I mentioned earlier, Ashtar said when the Operation Sand Paper post first came up, it send a ripple through the fleet and then through the internet. Our Home, IDC, is monitored not only by the Good guys, the Republic, and the Galactics, but also by the remaining Cabal minions.

We run a clean House here and as such we get the best information, with the least disinformation of any site on the net. If it is real, and important, it finds its way here.

We also don't tolerate Cabal agenda nor the Trolls that try us. Since we are so diligent in keeping our House clean, we have the Full support of all the Light Forces to help us keep it that way. That is why minions who post on our site, and even the ones who just try to post on our site, get taken into custody. The Republic Leadership, knows what we already know, that there needs to be at least one place on the web for Light Workers to come and be safe from minion attack and harmful Cabal propaganda.

Minions Know Who We Are and Who Backs Us

The Minions talk with each other, and they all know the threat on IDC is VERY REAL. They all know about Silent Cat, Old Boater, and the others, who were taken down without their cabal messages even being posted. Clearly, we are being supported at the highest levels, and for that I send thanks to the Republic Leadership, the Light Forces and the Galactics as well, from whom no minion can hide. Here is the evidence of our Resolve here on IDC:

http://www.dinardaily.net/t63324-idc-light-warriors-brigade-one-who-knows-richard-lee-mckim-jr-5-11-17

This makes us Feared by the remaining minions and Trolls. We can't be corrupted, we can't be frightened, and we can't be bullied. We are so strong that our resolve is a great Threat to the minions who are left. In short, this means that when a Call to Light Workers goes out from IDC, it makes them shudder. Not only can they not post on IDC, but we will go and find them wherever they do post. That scares them because they know that we are backed by the Republic and our Threats/Promises are REAL!

The Live Action

When Operation Sand Paper started last night, we monitored the whole operation as it was going in real time. The minions had gotten a head start, and had posted their attack propaganda on several sites. While they couldn't post it on our site, they did keep an eye on our site, to see what reaction would show up. That is the thing about the Cabal, they are all about monitoring things and watching their backs.

The minute the Operation Sand Paper post came up on IDC, the reports from the Light Forces were that the Minions were in Fear. They KNOW THAT WE DO HAVE VERY REAL CONNECTIONS, AND WE DO GET PEOPLE LOCKED UP. So, when this announcement and call to action came from "The Standing Republic of The United States" they freaked out. This is the first time that the Republic has been so visible, and taking action publicly.

We are so close now, that the Republic is making itself know to us, and making sure the transition is smooth. The Cabal minions recognized that this was a real threat, that had real consequences.

Needless to say, the leads started coming in, and were being forwarded to us for "Processing." People were really being picked up and stopped, and that is when the CABAL FEAR LEVEL skyrocketed.

Fear As A Motivator

Imagine the scene: The Republic suddenly shows up in a very public way, with a message to the Light Workers to go and find these minions so they can round them up. This call to action post shows up on the most reputable site in Dinarland, where Minions actually get taken down and into custody.... a lot. Then the fact that NO ONE can hide on this World, or in this World, from the Light Forces. Any post leaves a trail back to the Poster, and it is only a matter of time before you get a knock on the door and it is over. The IDC Light Workers are scouring the Net looking for these bad actors who are trying to harm the Republic and NESARA/GESARA just before it is announced.

What do the minions do? Continue with their mass Disinformation attack plan, or take down their posts and hide?

Defeated By Their Own Fear

The answer is that the minion's VERY REAL Fear caused them to take down their posts, because there was a VERY REAL THREAT. While we expected to get hundreds of reports and leads to go after, the leads dropped off. It turns out that not only did the minions take down their own posts so they would NOT get tracked down, the web site owners took them down as well, so they would not get caught up in a Republic Sting Operation. (Frankly, if a website owner posts that harmful misinformation, they are as guilty as the posters are.)

Heads Up Website owners. Do No Harm is the new Law of the land, and when you post Cabal propaganda that says there will be no RV for example, that is a Financial Crime that could have damages into the Trillions. This is no time to be trying the NPTB and their resolve to transition this World in a peaceful manner. YOU WILL GET TAKEN DOWN, AND NOT EXCHANGE.

So, in the end, Fear took them down, or should I say, they decided it was not smart to tangle with the REPUBLIC in this matter. The disinformation posts were taken down so fast, that it surprised the Republic and even Ashtar who was monitoring what we were doing. But it didn't surprise me. I know our Light Workers are FIERCE and UNSTOPPABLE. Let this be a lesson to you remaining Minions and Trolls.

The Mop-Up

So, the official Operation finished last night, but leads are still coming in and being handled appropriately. Interestingly, without naming names, there are some of our most troublesome posters, here on IDC, who are being named as Cabal agenda as well, by anonymous sources. Just because your post gets posted on IDC doesn't mean you can get away with Harming the plan and the new Republic's operations. If this last statement makes you worry about your post, then maybe you should be worried. Thin Ice ahead....

Here is a message from Scarlet Fox who was at the helm with me last night during this Republic Operation:

******** Start Special Message ********

Scarlet Fox here...

We were pleased to be of service to the Republic on this matter. The problem with all this disinformation that has been placed on this and other sites is that it is damaging to those that are keeping their vibration high as well as causing unnecessary fear.

The Elders as well as the Republic are more than tired of these tactics and asked us to help in this matter. It is Go Time for this and their patience with antics like this is long gone. To be blunt, antics like this are destined for the Universal trash can.

One hit wonders such as these tactics are already backfiring on those that put them out there, regardless of the reason. Patience is not unlimited when it comes to the RV/GCR and these continuous stall, delay and disinformation tactics.

Richard, back to you

Scarlet

******** End Special Message ********

The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that we were called on by the Republic again and we came through again. With our High Vibrations, Rock Solid Resolve, and quick and decisive action both on our own IDC website, and elsewhere, we have again proven why we are considered the best of the best, and why we are the ones called on again and again when help is needed.

We are so strong as a community, as a family, and as a DETERMINED group of Light Workers, that we are quite literally UNSTOPPABLE. I am a proud member of the IDC community and I am proud to call you all, my friends and family. As a song once said: "These are the days, my friends, these are the days."

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams/Plans

Signed: One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. & Scarlet Fox
by Ssmith
on Tue May 16, 2017 10:42 pm
 
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Topic: "Re-Cap of the Republic's Operation Sand Paper" - One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. & Scarlet Fox 5/16/17
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"10 GCR Points to Remember" - One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. 5/14/17

Topics tagged under 8 on Dinar Daily Own411

10 GCR Points To Remember


This post is a refresher of what to expect in the coming GCR. There is a lot upon us and sometimes it gets confusing.

GCR

#1) First Basket Currencies will All Revalue at the same time. When one revalues, they all revalue as well. There will be no opportunity to exchange one and then buy more of the other.

#2) All Denominations of the first Basket Currencies will be Honored. This means every size bill, will be exchangeable. This is especially important to know for the ZIM. Importantly, no zeros will be loped of any notes. They will be accepted at face value for exchange, at the rate you agree on.
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#3) The Zim "Bearer Checks" will be honored and exchanged even though they have expired.

#4) If you have Zim, you will have a DIFFERENT exchange Procedure that includes exchanging at offsite locations, Including military bases, but not limited to them.

#5) Yes, the zim has a special phone number/ account relationship, but don’t worry, your money is actually in Trusts for added protection and "Trusts" have names and not numbers. The phone number you call to set the appointment, is part of your account info with the bank, but not directly associated with any particular money account. In short it identifies you, like your name identifies you to the bank when you call.

#6) You will not be allowed to bring any electronic items into the exchange such as phone, tablet, computers, calculators, etc. Therefore, have a sheet of paper (Master Sheet) that has all your important information written on it, such as Trust names, address, questions you want to ask, etc., for easy reference.

#7) Bring whatever ID you have, bills, passports, DL, ss card, Birth Certificate, photo IDs etc. Some people will have all the IDs they need, and others may not, but all will be helped anyway. Remember that this is a benevolent plan and they realize that some may not have the IDs they need. The bank will work with you on that.

#8) All countries will have exchanges and will have the "Privately Negotiated Rates" available as well, especially for humanitarian projects.

#9) Banks are NOW the safest place in the World to keep your money. Trust the banks, and trust the plan.

#10) HSBC is the main GCR Bank and will eventually have retail branches everywhere. Just because there is no branch near you now, doesn't mean you can't exchange with them and get an account with them. They will be represented at the Exchange centers, especially for the ZIM.

Bonus:

#11) You should call as soon as possible for your appointment, but once you call, you can set an appointment at a time that works for you. You might have a delay due to travel, work, medical, etc. Set the time to go IN for your appointment. I expect that there will be several days or more to call the first number.

#12) Historical Bonds can be redeemed. Tell the operator what you have (Not amount) when you call the first appointment contact number.

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams/Plans

Signed: One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr.
by Ssmith
on Sun May 14, 2017 11:46 pm
 
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Topic: "10 GCR Points to Remember" - One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKim, Jr. 5/14/17
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5/8/2012 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

Guru TerryK: GOT A CALL, ANOTHER SOURCE...SAID IT WILL BE GOING DOWN THIS WEEK...NO LATER.

HEARING THAT THERE IS NO NEGATIVE THINGS OUT THERE IN THE WORLD AT THIS TIME TO HURT OUR INVESTMENT...THINGS ARE STILL LOOKING GREAT.


Guru BGG:   there is a whole lot going on right now...there is a MASSIVE power struggle taking place and there will be lots of turmoil...this is good for us. As it was 3 months ago - we had little or no chance unless Maliki agreed to come to the table on his previous agreements. If he did (or implied he would) - that would be a much different story. As we see now - he had no intention. Dr Shabibi has clearly laid out the requirement of a "partnership" government (checks and balances) as a pre-cursor to any change in monetary value. 

Things that will signal an RV...Maliki announcing the three remaining Ministers currently being run by "proxy" (as in him), the announcement of the NCSP policy board and some type of Executive order or decree honoring Article 140. A pardon for Al-Hashemi and a public apology to Deputy PM Al-Mutlag would go a long way as well. However, short of these things it is a very distinct reality the opposition will move towards a vote of "no confidence" against PM Al-Maliki. How quickly can this happen? At this point, probably very quick. There seems to be a general agreement in place to "appoint" Ibranim Al-Jaafari as an "interim" PM and head up a "care-taker" government until the next elections. The consensus looks good.  If they actually put him in - I predict he will act very quickly and things will move forward at a rapid pace.

For Maliki to survive politically he needs to announce those 3 Ministers as quick as he possibly can. He needs a decree that says they are implementing article 140...he could do all those things very quickly. The holiday is not an issue. They can call an emergency session and remove Maliki no problem.   I think Jaafari is the best pick for the interim PM. There was an  important meeting today and Maliki was not invited. Allawi was asking the National Alliance to go ahead and pick their candidate.  I don't see this thing going too much farther. It could be over fairly quickly.


Guru SWFloridaGuy: The Erbil agreement isn't really fully constitutional...Iraqi politicians are going to try to find a solution during this parliamentary holiday that lasts up until June 14th. We all know that Maliki received a 9-point ultimatum letter from Barzani, Allawi, Nujayfi, Sadr and then sent it to Jaafari. The message it contains is very clear: Maliki has 15 days to adhere to the demands of its contents or he will be sacked...this ultimatum clearly states that unless there is complete adherence to these principles the Shia alliance move to withdraw the confidence of Maliki's government and form a new one. The only out Maliki appears to have would be to say, ok fine I will "adhere" but only to what is constitutional while still maintaining the position that parts of Erbil are not constitutional. In that case this could drag out a little further. 

Maliki wants a new electoral commission and to get that he needs allies. Tariffs are set to go into effect in June and there is already talk that they may have to delay them until July. The noose around Maliki is tightening and if he wants to stay in power he needs to start compromising. He needs to come to some agreement on power sharing. Even though that may strengthen his opposition, it is what's required to stave off a no-confidence vote. 

This is in Iraq's hands and is also a very critical time for us in this investment. The RV is not in the banks as some...have claimed for over a year now. Right now our focus should be on what direction Maliki decides to take this. He may decide to implement all terms of Erbil as he promised he would or he may stand behind former statements he's made questioning it's Constitutionality. If he does fight this than we are looking at a no confidence vote and a short delay. If not than we will finally see the power sharing agreement implemented, followed by a National Meeting which should free up Shabibi and the CBI to implement phase 2 of their currency reform project. Upon that time and in accordance with the IMF and World Bank's approval and instruction, they will send the adjusted rate to the BIS.  From there it will be released to all central banks around the world and will appear live simultaneously around the globe.

The only way for Iraq to re-enter the world stage again as an economic leader, not only regionally but globally, and accomplish all the goals they have as a nation is to move ahead with phase 2 of their currency reform project. The CBI is waiting on the previously mentioned issues to be resolved. When a resolution is reached, Shabibi will give the green light to complete the reforming of their currency, introduce the LD's, remove the zeros from the nominal value, raise the exhange rate and then....GAME OVER!!


Guru Poppy3:   We're gonna see this RV very soon now.  I am absolutely convinced that some things like the HCL and tariffs laws being a prerequisti for the RV.  The Erbil power sharing is important and something they definitely need.  Shabibi also has said give me a complete GOI.  They need the 3 ministers seated and up until now they have only been filled by interim positions.  Shabibi want stability and a functioning government for the long term.  The tariff law is still set for June 1st and they are having a meeting about it tomorrow morning.  I don't see them postponing that.  The WTO will not take Iraq until they have an RV.  That was stated last December that when they RV'd their currency it will be internationally tradeable and at that point they will have full accession and no longer be guest members


Guru BellaGrits:    ONCE AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING IN THE ROOM EARLIER. I HAVE BEEN ON MANY CALLS, AND LET ME ADD, THEY WERE VERY POSITIVE AND PRODUCTIVE CALLS REGARDING THE RV.  WITH GREAT RESTRAINT, I WILL TELL YOU WE ARE WALKING A FINE LINE ON WHAT WE CAN/CANNOT SAY. PLEASE BE CONFIDENT OUR BANKS ARE IN CONTROL..

.NO WORRIES WHAT SHABBS OR MALIKI ARE DOING AT THIS POINT IN THE LEAST--MANY BANKS HAVE BEEN ADDED AS YOU MAY BE AWARE FOR CASHOUTS...NO WORRIES FOR YOU GETTING TO THE BANK IN A MAD RUSH...

WRITE OUT YOUR PLAN, AND FOLLOW YOUR PLAN....REMEMBER APPTS APPEAR THE WAY THEY ARE GOING.... IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, TRY TO HAVE YOUR ACCT OPEN PRIOR TO CASHOUT...IF NOT AFFORDABLE, THEY CAN DO THIS--MAKE THEM AWARE BEFORE YOU GET THERE.

PLEASE CARRY PAPERS ON THE DODD-FRANK ACT AND INSIST YOUR MONEY GO THERE OR HAVE OTHER INSURANCE WHILE DETERMINING HOW YOU WILL INVEST...

TAKE PROPER ID (2 FORMS, ONE PHOTO)....MOST OF ALL, PLEASE USE YOUR MONEY WISELY....SUPPORT YOUR COUNTRY--OUR COUNTRY.... YOU KNOW THE SAFE PLACES TO INVEST, BUT I ENCOURAGE YOU TO INVEST WISELY IN REBUILDING A STRONG AMERICA...THIS IS OUR LAST BEST SHOT, PEEPS.


Guru DinarWishes:  Things are coming out in the banks as a Mis-Information campaigns...Internal memos and other such Items of interest...Its funny how they want to keep this from their own employees...Reminds me of Kuwait...Kuwait was devistated by their RV as they told everyone in country about it...So, they lost ALL of the Imported Labor since they were now rich...Guess thats the reason for all the Scam intel being put out...I love the Smoke cause where there is Smoke there is Often FIRE!!!


Guru ArizonaHeat:   we have no direct idea when this will all take place. We have several different sites that have finally stopped with the day to day claims of an ASN RV.  I, myself am looking at the world financial situation, the final details in Iraq being wrapped up and how the governments will best prosper over foreign currency reserves. The only thing I can say for sure without hesitation is that the Iraqi Dinar is a real investment, it is going to take place and someday soon we will all be able to enjoy the hundreds of dreams we have all dreamt in reference to our new found wealth.


Guru Purplehelmet:   Please Know that all is done and any talk about needing the NC [National Conference] in order to RV is not true.  NC is all done and the announcements are waiting on the release of the RV - NOT the other way around. You will see announcements of the NC just before, during or after the RV has been released.  Has NOTHING to do with Iraq.  


Guru Vic1:   All is GOOD, we will see the REAL DEAL here before Long!   I will not go into depth on Maliki...this guy has done HIS job...He is in My opinion...No LONGER NEEDED!!!  IMHO...The RV..SHABS has said...is when?  POLITICAL Stability...Security STABILITY, and Monetary Stability...Meaning SHABS...will and stopped...Counterfeiting!!!  I believe this WEEK tells the " TALE OF THE TAPE" - OLD BOXING VERBAGE!!!


Guru Blaino:  our banking people seem to think there might be ....... Something forthcoming this MORNING.... And, like mom always said the early bird gets the fresh coffee!


Guru BWM:  I feel really good about things... some things are not exactly clear but the information is such that I can determine what I believe.  When you see the RV, THEN you can start looking for 7.  


Guru Jonnywg:  Bank screens are going crazy with change...no numbers, old numbers...0000.00 all sorts.

There is a massive amount of information coming from the Banking Industry in re to the RV ...If we get information different from what we have presented ...it will be posted here at Intel4U first. We are close to reality --

I know you are ready ...Just remember it is your job and responsibility to support America ...It is your job to invest in companies, to invest in jobs, and to take risks in doing so as well as it is your goal to make a profit on those risks ...

I will personally be here to assist you and advise you as I can on any project … Please be the fearful leaders you can be, and let's rebuild America togethe


Guru Bulldog75:  ANYONE WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN A QUIZ?  "DINAR TRIVIA":

OK; HERE IS THE QUIZ/QUESTION. ITS ONLY ONE QUESTION. YOU EITHER SCORE 100% OR ZERO. SO BE CAREFUL WITH YOUR ONE ANSWER. OK?

SETTINGS GOES LIKE THIS: THE RATE IS POSTED AND NOW YOU ARE SET TO GO TO THE BANK SOMETIME REAL SOON. WE KNOW THAT ONE IS NOT GOING TO PLACE ALL THEIR MONEY INTO USA CURRENCY. SO THERE ARE OTHER COUNTRIES CURRENCIES TO CONVERT OUR CASH INTO. WE ALL KNOW THAT 'CHINA' IS ONE OF THE FOREIGN CURRENCIES TO CONVERT INTO; THAT IS THE

CHINESE YUAN. THATS ONE OF THE BEST. SO THE QUESTION IS : WHAT ARE THE OTHER NINE CURRENCIES THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED INVESTING INTO; NAME ONLY ONE AND LETS SEE HOW MANY CORRECT ANSWERS WE GET. READY SET, GO

OK;NOW U GOT TO SEE OTHERS ANSWERS. THE DAY HAS COME AND YOU ARE IN FRONT OF YOUR BANKER. AND HE POPS THE QUESTION; WHAT 5 CURRENCIES DO YOU WANT TO TRANSFER YOUR CASH-IN PROCEEDS INTO: WE KNOW CHINA YUAN IS ONE OF THEM. OK. WHAT ARE THE OTHER FOUR CURRENCIES YOU WILL PLACE YOUR MONEY INTO. STAY AWAY FROM THE ANSWER OF "BRICS'. LIST FOUR OTHER COUNTRIES BY YOUR NAME. READY SET AND GO.

OK. MODS WILL HAVE TO SCORE THIS AND FIND THE A+ STUDENTS. I WILL LIST THE TOP 10.

THESE ARE ALL IN, IMHO, ORDER. #1 cHINESE YUAN/RENIMBI. ITS ONE IN THE SAME. ITS A MONSTER CURRENCY. BEST IN THE BUSINESS, IMHO.

#2: AUSTRALIAN....

 #3: CANADIAN

#4 HONG KONG DOLLAR

#5 INDIA RUPEE

#6 NORWAY

 #7 SWEDEN

#8 UK

#9 NEW ZEALAND

AND THE LAST

BUGLE PLEASE. DRUM ROLL.............

#10 SWISS FRANK

I WOULD DEFINITELY LEAN TOWARD THE FIRST FIVE.  IMHO  YOU FILTER. YOU DECIDE. FAIR AND BALANCED. THANKS FOR PARTICIPATING.

I SUGGEST KEEPING 5-10% IN USA DOLLARS.   IQD AND DONG ARE STRONG. GOOD AND READY.

 I WOULD PICK MY TOP 5 AND SPREAD THE MONEY. WAIT 3 MONTHS FOR ANY MAJOR INVESTMENTS. A NEW HOME AND CAR ARE FINE IMMEDIATELY. MARKETS WILL WOBBLE 10-20%.   RENTAL PROPERTIES ARE GREAT........BUT CAUTION: BUY THE PROPERTY THRU YOUR NEW FORMED TRUSTS.  WE BUY NOTHING IN OUR NAMES! DO IT THRU THE TRUSTS PLEASE.   NO MERCEDES. DEAD GIVE AWAY.   LEXUS IS MY PICK IS250 WITH BIG 6 CYLINDER.   MY CURRENT AUTO GOES UP TO 150MPH ON THE SPEEDOMETER.

GOD HAS PROVEN, HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THE RATE, DATE, TIME.  EVERYONE ELSE HAS BEEN WRONG. WE SIMPLY PATIENTLY WAIT. OUR TIME IS NIGH. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. I LOVE YOU ALL. THANKS FOR YOUR KIND SPIRIT, HOSPITALITY, AND BLESSINGS. GOOD NIGHT TO ALL. THANKS TO ALL MODS. WE WAIT FOR CHOCOLATE CHIPS FROM D7.


Guru SoonerPatriot:  Go-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-od Mo-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o-orning! Just a fly-by this morning to say hello and tell you how much you all mean to me personally. I’m still working today on post RV business. IMO, all that’s left is a timing issue.

I’ve been listening to everyone talk about safety, and like them I’m worried about your safety during exchange. But they’ve missed an important facet of the security risk we all face.

I want you to know I’ve been reassured by my banking sources that they are on high-alert for your safety. So I don’t want you to be paranoid, just watchful and aware of what’s going on around you.


Guru JoseyWales:  Good morning all………here we sit another day waiting for our RV. I am taking a new approach while we wait for the conclusion of this amazing, but crazy ride.

Maybe it is a good idea to think back to the days when we first got involved in this investment……why we invested in something that seemed so bizarre as a currency in a war torn country such as Iraq……….

For most of us, it was the dream of a better life….a dream of helping our loved ones….a dream of making a difference in our own lives, so that we could be in a position to helping so many……Every dollar that we invested, truly helped stabilize the value of the IQD, so we are all part of history in this huge undertaking.

 First, let’s pray for the USA, our Soldiers, and their families that gave so much, and continue to give. None of this would even be possible if not for them. Then let’s pray for the Iraqi people, so that they can soon have a better life, with standards that we all expect in a civilized world. We are truly the new pioneers….Investing in something that will help build a more stable and peaceful world…….


Guru Generals64:  you never know about when the information comes from the diffrent sources. You must rmember a lot of sources are from Europe and today was May Day...European Holiday

hey...if it were to come tonight how many would be ready for it?....Just how hard would it be to go to sleep....I know the Banks have told us they would be there 24/7  guaranteed but, where's thier number?...What do I wear?/ cutoffs and flip flops...OMgf...what to do...OUCrazy...help me...

OK...then all my preaching about preparation has gone into effect...Would you guys save me a place in line????  .I think those that want to should all meet in Destin, Florida at the Holiday Inn on the Beach and "brainstorm " about our future and future investments...

I talked with a European Banker about the finances and what to expect etc....He told me to Dinar will be used for "oil Credits"...and explained that to me...and then i asked "where is all the money coming from?"....  He reminded me of the Burk Burnett, Texas oil fields in the teens and how many people became instant millionairs over it....He even told me how people laugh and told the invetors they would being "Hood winked".....

Now, come forward amost 100 years and think about it...A Million in some poor farmers hands back then was a whole lot.....whole lot...Ten million in some poor farmers hands will be a whole lot....it's the sign of the times....the guy told me tht our Oil field is simply located in Iraq........"MAKE ANY SENSE?"


Guru Delta:  DELTA also talk about getting out of chat 7 right NOW on TV today in IRAQ

DELTA sees it as everyone is happy , chapt 7 issue is resolved , shabbs to move on currency, the people see that they are going to start to make money finally, Pres O just signed EO to control US money going to Iran and syria, but not IRAQ

DELTA when shabbs was in switzerland he signed off on deal to release very large amount of money to go to IRAQ to handle the REVALUE OF THE DINAR , the money is in IRAQ NOW !!!!!!


Guru Randy Koonce:  What not to look for:  Parliament – all’s been done and it doesn’t matter to us.  All that has to happen is an announcement…the Strategic Council and Ministers. Watch them and Maliki and get our eyes off the bank screens are flashing. 

You don’t have to worry about….Okie calls…starting off at $7-8 and now it’s up to $42.  It hasn’t happened yet.  We’re looking for specific governmental items to take place.  People say they haven’t seen anything like this…you have.  We haven’t seen the budget here and it’s not going to happen.

Is it going forever?  No.  Are we close? Yes  -- don’t know how close.  Talabani has got to come out and say we’re going to have a NC …and I don’t know why.  As soon as he announces to call for the NC we’re done with this thing. 

A couple people have caught on that if we get our eyes on things that don’t matter….like we were given the ability to invest in Iraq – Resolution 13303 – they don’t need it when Ch. 7 is lifted.  They say they want to do that on the 15th or so…Kuwait said they’ve done everything to be lifted so what’s all that’s left?  Not until they see the Strategic Council and Ministers because Shabibi wants to see a fully formed government.

Parliament doesn’t matter…everything that has to be done has been done….we’re waiting for the announcement…they’ve approved everything.  They just have to make it LAW….it has to be in the public eye to come out and announce the NM in public and they’ll be an announcement.

The things we’re looking at are political things because Maliki has to give up power…he’s been given an ultimatum and runs out on the 17th.  Sadr wants to make sure it’s done before the 13th…that’s not that many days.

If  Maliki gets by…how? He has no money but he can still not do it and force the political parties to no confidence.  If he feels like they don’t have the kahonies he can just sit and wait.  He could drag it out, but I don’t think he will….

we’re in pretty good shape if he wants to go on with the NC and there’s multiple things to get this thing running.  I feel very good where we’re at, and would feel better if we saw the NC.  Could we see it this week?  We sure could…it’s 12 midnight tomorrow…but any day after that is a really good week. 

Each day that goes by in the next 2 weeks is a better day with more stress on Maliki, pushing him, saying to get things done, and have a NC….get it all together and we’ll be fine.

It doesn’t make anything until we see it in the public…why? The public will become law if it’s in the public…I want to stress that a whole bunch. You’re not going to miss this….you’ll see it on Fox and CNN…Iraq has a new government.


PTR Member Bambi123 Bank Story:  RV is to happen this week, I have an appointment to cash in!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have spoken to two branch managers from two different banks. And I was told the same thing.

the RV will take place this week between  today Tuesday May 8th, and Thursday May 10th

I have gotten my info from two banks in Tennessee. #1 Bank ***** **** , and number two #2 ************* ***** *****. I have an appointment to cash in my Dinar Friday May 11th


3S's Member 21milliondinar Bank Story:  I went in to a random WF branch and asked to speak with the wealth manager. I actually went to three different branches. At the first two I was told the wealth manager was not in. The third branch told me "he is in a wealth managers summit meeting today."

 I then went in to speak with a back office lady who I was referred to after briefly speaking with another back office person. Both of them actually sat in on the meeting. At first they both denied any involvement of WF and gave the usual canned answer with regard to non interest bearing accounts and Dinar etc.

But after learning how much Dinar I have I was told... "we want to do whatever we can to work with you to meet your needs." The lady gave me her card and asked if she could speak personally with the internationall foreign exchange dept. and give me a call back. She indicated it would be today for sure.

In a couple hours later she called me back and said... "when you see our website update then we will be able to speak with you further about this matter."


by Ssmith
on Mon May 08, 2017 9:27 am
 
Search in: MANY MANY YEARS AGO in DINAR-LAND
Topic: 5/8/2012 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND
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"10 Points About The Republic" - One Who Knows/Richard Lee McKIm, Jr 4/27/17

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10 Points About The Republic

I see this type of post from time to time and it is just the old Cabal Fear-Training kicking in. There is nothing to worry about, all is well. This is the post I noticed:

"A Succinct Explanation of the New Republic" by GK - 4.26.17

I didn't watch the video as I could tell that it was meant to worry people about our newly restored Republic. So I thought I would put together some information for your consideration that is positive and REAL, for you to consider and enjoy.

Starting with the Facts:

#1) Paul Ryan is the "Interim" President of the Republic, and has been for about 2 years or so. (More or less)

#2) Once the Republic is announced and NESARA is in effect, there will be REAL elections for all the top governmental offices that need to be replaced, which is all of them. We will either re-elect Ryan as president, or we will elect someone else instead. Your choice. However, I am sure he will win by a landslide, since by that time people will know the real truth and not the lie. As an interesting point of fact, NO CABAL are permitted to run for office. EVERY CANDIDATE MUST BE VETTED COMPLETELY BEFORE THEY ARE PERMITTED TO RUN FOR OFFICE. It is about time!

#3) All the Negative Ryan information you have was his cover story to get into the Cabal boys club in congress. It is all fake, but you can believe it if you want to, after all the Cabal did.

#4) The non-sense spouted by Kent Dunn is laughable. Sorry Kent, Paul Ryan is one of the most upstanding and loyal people we have in the Republic and we are damn lucky to have him. This stupid nonsense that he wants to kill off the population is ludicrous. You need to think before you say such things, or you end up making yourself look like a fool.

#5) We are no longer called "Citizens" as we were in the Cabal USA Inc., instead we are now considered "Residents" of the Republic.

#6) While I don’t have all the exact details of how this works, the Government structure is mostly local and much less at the higher Republic level. It is more of a grass roots, self governing type system. "Guiding Councils" will be the norm. We will learn more about that later.

#7) There were several "Republics" registered in France as corporations, that were created by the Cabal to confuse people. Although the notion that our Republic is the wrong one, has been passed around, the idea, that our Republic is one of those Cabal corporations is ridiculous. Do you REALLY think that Grandfather, the author of the plan, the one in charge of the money that will fund the World, who is 2.5 billion years old, and St. Germaine who was at the signing of the declaration of independence, would be fooled by a Fake republic, registered in France as a Corporation, is just crazy talk. Whoever tells you this either a Cabal plant, or has no clue what is really going on.

#8) The Republic owns and controls ALL the Military. The military is 100% cabal free, and, will be highly involved in protecting you before, during and after your exchange.

#9) The IRS and the Federal Reserve are already gone and complete control of our nation's money supply is now in the hands of the Republic Treasury where it should have been all along. The Cabal no longer have any control over our money supply or ANY money supply anywhere in the World. The Republic will be issuing new "Continental Currency" that will be Gold & asset backed. A little known, but interesting fact, all the different denominations are actually different sizes, such as length and width. All businesses will have to change out their cash register drawers and ATMs. But that has already been planned and will be ready when we get the new money.
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#10) The Republic is a sovereign nation recognized by all 209 nations on the planet. It is a debt free and fully funded nation. While "Acting" President Trump signs documents on TV, the ONLY documents and presidential Orders that count and are in force, are the ones signed by President Paul Ryan of the Republic.

The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that you don’t have to accept or believe any of the information I have provided above. It will all become public when it is time for the big reveal. The only thing you need to believe and have faith in is the coming GCR. Your belief in that and the special exchange opportunities it offers do matter. In that regard, it is interesting to know this Republic information, but, more importantly for you right now, is to concentrate on your next BIG MOVE, your exchange. That time is near.

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams/Plans

Signed: One Who Knows
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Richard Lee McKim, Jr. (One Who Knows) 10 GCR Points To Remember 4/26/17

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10 GCR Points To Remember

This post is a refresher of what to expect in the coming GCR.  There is a lot upon us and sometimes it gets confusing.

GCR

#1) First Basket Currencies will All Revalue at the same time.  When one revalues, they all revalue as well.  There will be no opportunity to exchange one and then buy more of the other.

#2) All Denominations of the first Basket Currencies will be Honored.  This means every size bill, will be exchangeable.  This is especially important to know for the ZIM.  Importantly, no zeros will be loped of any notes.  They will be accepted at face value for exchange, at the rate you agree on.

#3) The Zim "Bearer Checks" will be honored and exchanged even though they have expired.

#4) If you have Zim, you will have a DIFFERENT exchange Procedure that includes exchanging at offsite locations, Including military bases, but not limited to them.

#5) Yes, the zim has a special phone number/ account relationship, but don’t worry, your money is actually in Trusts for added protection and "Trusts" have names and not numbers.  The phone number you call to set the appointment, is part of your account info with the bank, but not directly associated with any particular money account.  In short it identifies you, like your name identifies you to the bank when you call.


#6) You will not be allowed to bring any electronic items into the exchange such as phone, tablet, computers, calculators, etc.  Therefore, have a sheet of paper (Master Sheet)  that has all your important information written on it, such as Trust names, address, questions you want to ask, etc.,  for easy reference.

#7)  Bring whatever ID you have, bills, passports, DL, ss card, Birth Certificate, photo IDs etc.  Some people will have all the IDs they need, and others may not, but all will be helped anyway.  Remember that this is a benevolent plan and they realize that some may not have the IDs they need.  The bank will work with you on that.

#8)  All countries will have exchanges and will have the "Privately Negotiated Rates" available as well, especially for humanitarian projects.

#9)  Banks are NOW the safest place in the World to keep your money.  Trust the banks, and trust the plan.

#10)  HSBC is the main GCR Bank and will eventually have retail branches everywhere.  Just because there is no branch near you now, doesn't mean you can't exchange with them and get an account with them.  They will be represented at the Exchange centers, especially for the ZIM.

Bonus:

#11) You should call as soon as possible for your appointment, but once you call, you can set an appointment at a time that works for you. You might have a delay due to travel, work, medical, etc.  Set the time to go IN for your appointment.  I expect that there will be several days or more to call the first number.

#12) Historical Bonds can be redeemed.  Tell the operator what you have (Not amount) when you call the first appointment contact number.

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams/Plans

Signed: One Who Knows
by Ssmith
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One Who Knows - "Answers" 4/17/17

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Segments - Answers Coming

My friends in Dinarland, I have received a lot of questions on the new GCR Plan, and I will answer them for you. It will be my pleasure to do so. However, I don't want you to worry about the plan as it is a GREAT plan for Early notifications. Before I start on all the questions I am getting, Here are a few points to consider:

#1) EVERYONE will get the 800#s even if you have no email address, and are on no contact list what so ever. It will be on the Net. No worries.

#2) The Segments Plan is an EARLY CONTACT PLAN, that's all. If most of the currency holders can be notified personally, then the 800# won't have to be on the net for a long time. Makes Sense!

#3) When I said that a Segment Phone number would be cancelled if it were posted on the net, it just means that there will be another one issued to that same segment group so that everyone gets a chance to make their appointments. No biggie.

#4) The Segments Plan is just for the FIRST call number. Once you have your second number, or you have made contact with your appointment location, you are in the system, and no longer need the first number. That means that the Plan will roll out very quickly, since once you call that number you are done with it.

#5) The whole Early Notification Segments Plan will happen in a just a few days at most. Once the notifications start it will go VERY fast. Then it will show up on the net for those who didn't get contacted for some reason. No Worries.

#6) Don't worry, if you are paying attention to what is going on, you will get the 800#. The NPTB and the Elders, are going out of their way, to contact you early with the 800#. This is NOT NEW. Remember you were told lots of times that you would be contacted by email as well. The only difference is that you are being contacted by someone you know, be it a Guru, Group, Currency Dealer, Website, etc. It is WAY MORE PERSONAL & Better that way.

#7) This is NOT a change in Plan, it is an ADDITION to it. All they are doing is adding another Early Contact Method to everything else they are already doing. It is an EXTRA WAY to make sure EVERYONE is contacted efficiently.

#8) Remember the thing that makes the Internet People (Group) special is that they can be contacted, by the internet. They are just making contact with you by email first, and then they will contact you by the net. But, by that time I would say that 99% of us will have already been contacted and have appointments, if not already exchanged. Relax, it is all good!

I am now going to start working on these questions... It may be a little while before I get them all answered.... Stand by...

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams/Plans

Signed: One Who Knows
by Ssmith
on Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:47 pm
 
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Iko Ward 3/17/17

Topics tagged under 8 on Dinar Daily 93OKJS0u_biggeriko ward‏ @IkoWard 19m19 minutes ago


Want a good laugh? Read "Mike Cotrell's" email response to some nobody explaining in detail his roll in the RV.

On Dinar Chronicles. Like Cotrelle is going to even acknowledge his roll in all this. They really do think we're idiots.

Yosef and Tank... GFYS. How many failed promises does that make? I've lost count.


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I sent an email to Mr. Cottrell asking about his connection to our trust and payments to the shareholders. After the first response below, I sent another email asking for a clarification about an initial payment.

As stated in his responses, there is no direct connection between CMKX and his action regarding the codes he will receive.

Date: 13 March 2017

To: Ms. Jessup (Linda)

Ref: (A) Michael C. Cottrell Affirmation (#1)
dated 20 December 2014
Items: #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, and #9

(B) Michael C. Cottrell Affirmation (#2)
dated 6 January 2015
Item: #6

(C) Michael C. Cottrell Affirmation (#3)
dated 9 January 2015
Item: #13

(D) Michael C. Cottrell Affirmation (#4)
dated 18 January 2015
Item: #28

(E) CapnGriff and Response by Michael Cottrell
dated 15 April 2016


Dear Ms. Jessup (Linda),

Thank you for your email regarding the CMKX issue. Although I am NOT a shareholder, the circumstance regarding the confusion over my role, the payment of the FINES, INTEREST, AND PENALTIES (FIPs), and the remittance of the CMKX funds from the "Mahue Trust", per Al Hodges, Attorney-at-Law.

My involvement with Al Hodges began as the result of Chris Story, FRSA, contacting me for permission to release an article to Al Hodges regarding the CMKX $12.5 Billion dollar theft, by Bush Sr.. After several conversations, between the three of us, Chris and I decided that we needed an alternative method of evidencing my Affidavits (of 2008, etal.), to Her Majesty the Queen of the United Kingdom. We had reason to believe the previous method had been re-routed to 10 DOWNING STREET without our knowledge. Al Hodges provided a successful method to deliver the packages to Her Majesty, without problems.

Per the above Referenced items, on 21 March 2013, approximately 200+ countries signed a "Gold Treaty" that designated a loan, enmass, that would satisfy the BASEL III LIST, of which I was a named participant. This Treaty will eliminate the Fiat monies and derivative system once and for all.

Within the GOLD TREATY I am named as the Primary Designee to receive the CODES that will FUND THE NEW REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TREASURY, and release the GOLD-BACKED UNITED STATES NOTES (USNs) ---- WHICH INCLUDES THE GOLD-BACKED FUNDS FOR CMKX.

That is the extent of my involvement with CMKX.

Now, as to when this will happen.....I DO NOT KNOW. It is determined by "THE GOLDEN DRAGON" who signed for the massive Gold amounts which will be distributed via the GOLD TREATY. I am in the dark as much as all of the CMKX shareholders.

I hope this answers your question, but if you have any more, please call or email.

Respectfully,

Michael C. Cottrell, B.A., M.S.
President & CEO
Pennsylvania Investments, Inc.
Erie, PA

His second response:

Date: 14 March 2017
To: Ms. Jessup (Linda);
Re: Payment process for CMKX


Dear Ms. Jessup (Linda),

I appreciate your inquiry regarding the payment of the CMKX funds; however, as far as I have been advised --- thus far, I will have NO FURTHER involvement with the payment or the payment process --- once I have entered the CODES into the NEW REPUBLIC OF THE UNITED STATES TREASURY that will unlock the Gold-Backed USNs.

The question of the payment process should be directed to Al Hodges. Since I am not a shareholder of CMKX and have no standing in the matter, I do not have any information relating to how or what process has been setup.

This response and the earlier reply may be posted at your convenience. However, upon advice from the International Authorities, I am not permitted to access any "boards" (Ref: Michael C. Cottrell Affirmation dated 20 December 2014).

If you have any further questions, feel free to email them.

Respectfully,

Michael C. Cottrell, B.A., M.S.
President & CEO
Pennsylvania Investments, Inc.
Erie, PA

Although this does not provide us with information about any payments, it does IMO eliminate the possibility that they will come directly from Mr. Cottrell.

Mrs. Redcat
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Gary Larrabee Health Update 3/7/17

#8 (2 hours ago) 
Talked to Gary this morning. They did some tests on his stomach and are doing some more tests this afternoon. He is feeling better and hopes to be able to leave the hospital tomorrow. We may need to have him come home with us for a few days until he is stronger but do not know yet. Praise God that is doing better!! Gary says thank you for all the prayers and concern. He is deeply touched by the outpouring of your love.
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Frank26 --.they are close because Abadi is telling the international world to come in...

Frank26



  I just gave you 10 reasons WHY Iraq is international...not counting eDinars.

  Here is #11:  

#11 – INTERNATIONAL AIR STRIKE on SYRIA...Iraq did an air raid across their borders...and we allowed it!  Baghdadi is running...where?  There is only one place...Syria.  Iraq wanted to bomb Baghdadi in Syria. 

THIS IS PERSONAL for IRAQ!  To strike Baghdadi outside of their borders is HUGE!   ...11 items of why Iraq is going to be international.  IMO...soon their currency will grow-up to become international. 

The military side is just not ready to tell you that they are done yet.  IMO...they are close because Abadi is telling the international world to come in...


2-28-2017  

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  10 things that prove Iraq is stepping on INTERNATIONAL ground:


#1 – IBAN...every bank has IBAN numbers – allows them to transfer money in/out

#2 – SWIFT CODES...these numbers...part of the international world

#3 – MASTERCARD...(and Visa)...they are all over the place in Iraq

#4 – CHAPTER VII...IMO...is 90% gone.  The other 10% is the RV of their currency.

#5 – NO PROGRAM RATE on CBI SPREADSHEET...for about 2 months now
#6 – AUCTIONS are CONTROLLING MCP’s …

#7 – IRAQI STOCK EXCHANGE...keeps proclaiming they are going international

#8 – WTO ASKED THEM TO JOIN...spells international

#9 – WAKRA...is finally catching up...(website finally updating)

#10 – BONDS...international bonds...two of them





 ...THIS FRIDAY...I believe that could be a good time-frame for the liberation of Mosul.

 Once we have Mosul...does that mean we have the RV?  No...this is a lava-flow process.  What does Mosul give you?

 SECURITY and STABILITY...IMO...Mosul is about to be announced to the world.  Iraq needs international investors...and I believe that is the big campaign now by Abadi.

  Come in and invest in our country!

  This airport...once it was captured...IMO...it opened the door...did you know that we are building 7 bases in Iraq? 

WE AIN’T GOING ANYWHERE...and the INTERNATIONAL WORLD KNOWS IT! 



  Another important thing...Dr. Shabibi came out and condemned Maliki...and you will start to see EVEN MORE!  That will help with the monetary reform...help with the lava-flow.

 Watch for more on Dr. Shabibi and Maliki.  In the end, Dr. Shabibi will make a speech to you.  Security is coming in many ways. 

We (USA) are planting a presence sooo deep! 

We told you...some articles would come out...about the new Iraqi dinar being used in-country...and they are coming.


2-28-2017 


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The IMF doesn’t want them to float...but IMO...I think they are going to float.

 There is a compression of a lot of DEAL going on as the fat lady gets out of the way to show the liberation of Mosul.

  Once you have Mosul...you’ll see the reason for the negotiations...which you wouldn’t see happening with a program rate.

 The DEALS are across the board...creating fairness in trade and currencies.  This is VERY historical.  I like how Abadi told everyone at the meeting in Germany...“we’re open for business...come on in!”  Germany did tell Abadi...“ok”...and they did...quickly. 

 Abadi received today a German delegation...Merkel says they are there to help with the economic reforms. Didn’t take them long to show up.

No country is in this for an 1186 program rate!



2-24-2017 


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 The reason why we don’t see the exchange rate of the IQD released yet...because there are a LOT of DEALS being made...   IMO…(about 2 weeks ago)…we have enough of Mosul to have the RV of the currency of Iraq now...that was MY OPINION…but apparently that is not President Trump’s opinion.  He wants to extinguish ISIS...That’s why many DEALS…IMO…are being born…combination of removing ISIS…“give me Mosul” and you’ll see the MR.  We’ve got like 30 articles now... evidence of what they are going to do.  It’s not that we want fully security by removing all of ISIS...while that is happening, Trump is making a lot of DEALS with Abadi. 

IMO…Iraq is being used as LEVERAGE to do a lot of DEALS around the world.  Has Abadi seen Trump yet? No…not until Abadi is done with this and that…but Trump has Abadi’s back!   [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]  Dr. Shabibi…anything to say?  

Dr. Shabibi came out…and said that Maliki stopped everything.  Abadi asked…“Why did Maliki give up Mosul?”   Why did he remove 3 units of protection? Why Maliki? Obviously he was in coo hoots with ISIS.  They are now calling for high-treason… in Iraq and INTERNATIONAL COURTS!  TIME IS UP! TIME TO PAY MALIKI FOR YOUR CRIMES!  ...we told you there would be another speech from Dr. Shabibi…JUST BEFORE they were ready. TA-DA-FREAKIN’-DA!!

 The MR will…IMO…will blossom after Mosul is announced. Once Mosul is liberated…they will liberate the IQD from the program rate.  


2-23-2017 
by Ponee
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One Who Believes Has 10 Reasons the GCR Should Happen Today 1/14/17

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10 Reasons The GCR Should Happen Today

From everything I have learned from the intel providers that I trust, we are IN THE WINDOW NOW. We have had a good "Report" from Yosef, From Bruce at the Big Call, From Zorra of Hollow Earth, and even have heard from Fisher of The Real Truth Call/Chatter. Those are all my favorite Intel Providers and they all concur that the time is now.

But Is It?

Who knows for sure? Frankly this is the "Disclaimer" for all those who live to criticize and blame. Yes, we can't be sure and for those who NEED Certainty, stop reading this post right now. For the rest who want to be inspired to believe our time is now, I will list a few things that have come to my mind on this wonderful Saturday, January the 14th of 2017.

#1) Saturday is the ONLY day of the week that is a weekend day for every country in the World. Importantly, that means that the markets are closed and the Banks are closed, though some are open, but not doing official transactions. When they change over the rates, they will want to do it when everything is shut down at the same time. By the way, even the Banks that open on Saturday will all be closed for sure in Hawaii, by 11pm EST tonight .

#2) Today is the PEEK of the current energy wave that is hitting the Earth at this time. It is supposed to be very strong today and helping to bring about even higher consciousness. Zorra recommends that you meditate today to raise your vibration and utilize these extra strong energy waves. Also recommended is to go out in nature. Of course for many that means "Go out in the snow."

#3) Interestingly, the SITREP that came out yesterday, (Yosef?) mentioned the new $100 Gold coin that was dated 2017. He suggested that it was created by the Republic and was evidence of the new Gold backed money. Frankly, that Gold coin is "Gold Backed" and issued in 2017, when only the Republic is in charge of our money supply. Hmmmm? I am inclined to agree that this is "Evidence" of gold backed money in coin form. With that subtle announcement, only we who are informed would be able to make the connection to the Restored Republic. Could that be the "Sneaky" announcement we have been waiting for?

Intel SITREP - Saturday - 00:00 EST - January 13, 2017

#4) In more "Far Out" type information, this is the time that all the planets are "Going direct" whatever that means. I guess they are all lined up and going the same direction? I am not sure but it sounds like something that the Elders would be interested in.

#5) I also have noticed that our "Exchange window" has decreased over the years down to 6 days to get us all through the process. With that said, starting today, we have 6 days until the presidential inauguration day on January 20th. Interesting....

#6) While this doesn't count for the rest of the World, we in the US have a 3 day weekend with Monday being Martin Luther King day. This may be important because, we have a complicated situation here in the US as we need to do this process as quickly and quietly as possible as not to wake up the sleeping public. The 3 day week end may be important for that reason.

#7) Several top intel providers have mentioned specifically that the SKRs would be made liquid by the end of the week. The end of the week is Saturday night. The week actually starts on Sunday as the first day, even though for us in the US, it is a religious day.

#8) We, the informed, know that the Republic will have to make an appearance VERY SOON, and most likely by or on the presidential inauguration day, January 20th, 2017. If we, the internet group, get processed by then, the Republic will have more funds and an "Army" of Humanitarian agents ready to get started helping the World. More importantly, we will have funds already in our hands and as Light Workers, can help calm down the masses with our financial help, and our knowledge of the plan and what is going on. Frankly, I don’t see the Republic being announced first, and then during that mass public confusion, we go exchange. Remember, we are part of the plan as Light Workers. We will be answering questions 24 hours a day, once the Republic is announced. It will be a bit crazy for most, but not us, who are highly informed. To recap: I think we will get our money first and be in place to help when the Republic is announced.

#9) Also we should consider that there are some very big "Events" coming in rapid succession. #a) The Gold Backed Monetary system gets quietly announced (GCR), #b) Instantly and simultaneously we will be exchanging at the offsite exchange locations. #c) NESARA gets announced and begins implementation, #d) The New Republic is announced and begins public Cabal disclosure, #e) Mass arrests and trials become very public, #f) Some time later, but not too much later, comes Disclosure of the Galactic presence and then the healing ships arrive.

What is the point of this list of "Events?" Simple, it all starts with us, and so the strong need to get this (Our Exchanges) started ASAP! All those other things happen AFTER we go exchange, which means we are going to be exchanging very soon!!!!

#10) Many of the intel providers have stated that this is our week and that it must start before the 15th. SKRs are supposed to be liquid before the 15th. Which brings up what is so important about the 15th? It is the day that the IMF discloses the new currency rates of the World, in case they have changed. So if this starts before the 15, then the new public rates can be listed on the IMF website on the 15th right on schedule!

The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that this is ALL SPECULATION because we have no proof and will not have proof until AFTER it has happened. In the case of the GCR, Proof kills, as we saw on 9/11. So all we can do is guess. However, that being said, the closer we get to go time, the easier it is to see that this is all true, and that we really are about to exchange.

For many very good reasons (not Proof), it looks like this is our day. This post is meant to offer encouragement and inspiration to those who are interested. To all the others who demand proof, you will still have to wait, just like the rest of us. Interestingly, when the proof comes, it will no longer be needed or wanted. Go figure!!!

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams

Signed: One Who Believes
by Ssmith
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The Exact Plan - One Who Believes 12/20/16

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Here Is The EXACT Plan:

There seems to be so much worry about who will be President or not, when the CGR will happen, who are the Good Guys and who are not, etc. However, with all that being said, I know the EXACT Plan, and I am going to detail it for you in this post. But, before I reveal the EXACT Plan, I want to cover some important points.

The Players And Their Places

First thing to know is the "Players" in this epic transformation of our World, and the Universe. This would be a good time to note that not only are the Dark Forces "Turning To The Light" here on Earth, but, it is also happening throughout the rest of the Universe as well. Since this is a change of the entire Universe, then the players are more Universal in nature.

At the Highest Level of the Game or plan, it is a bringing of all the Universe into one "Accord," one vibration in unity, in the frequency of Love. Since all the Universe is one, the seeming fight is one against self. It is just an "Alignment" bringing all of self, into congruency of the whole. Thus the Uni-Verse which translates to the One-Verse.

However, at a lower level it looks like a battle or fight between the Light and the Dark. But you have to realize that the Light does not hate, or harm, or destroy, it only Loves and overcomes and encourages that which vibrates less than Love, to come up to love.

If this were a true fight against a "Separate" enemy, they would have been wiped out and vaporized where they stand, no questions asked. But it is not that easy to fight yourself without harming the whole. Thus the dark side has been given opportunity after opportunity again and again to give up and turn to the light. During this time many have come over to the light, which is a huge success. If you were to use a medical example it would be like saving the leg from having to be cut off. For every soul who returned to the light, a part of the whole was healed of its misalignment.

However, there are still parts that are so far out of alignment with the Light, that they are finally being cut off (Killed) as they are unable to be saved. In the big picture it hurts the whole, but in the end saves the rest from further harm.

In Summation, the transformation is about saving (Curing) as many souls as possible before killing (Amputation) is required. We are now in the final stages where all who could be saved were, and the rest must be cut away (Killed Off), to save us.

The Place Of No Time

Time is a creation of experience. I have read in many places that time is like a page in a book. If you turn to that page, (Focus There) then you are experiencing that time and all it entails. However, if you realize that is how time is, then you realize that there is an outcome from this page, already "Written" on the next page. At the place where time no longer exists, this matter is long over. The World is a paradise and being Human on Earth is the most beautiful experience to be had.

Your Life Was Your Choice

You chose to be here on Earth at this time in history to user in the change we are now seeing. If you think about it, this time for us now, IS, the most exciting time in the History of Earth. Before now, the lifetime experience for a person would be: Get Born, live a rough life of fear and lack, then die of war, disease, or feeble old age. I am sure we have all lived that experience many times.

Now, before I talk about our experience in this NOW time in history, let me brief you on the future experience on Earth. You get born, are loved and nurtured, have a great life of doing what you want being loved by all as you are expressing love to all, live a long time, may be 1000 years or more, then finally at some point transition out of the Human experience. Yes, I know that sounds great and it is. However these two life experiences have one thing in common, they are "Ordinary" experiences from beginning to end. One an ordinary stressed life experience, and the other an ordinary great life experience.

This Life, Right Now, Was Your Choice

This is the most exciting time to ever be alive on Planet Earth. This is the acceleration phase. The part where we go from lack and pain, to abundance and peace so fast that you can hardly keep up. Not only do we get to see and witness this great change in the World, and the Universe, but you are one of the main participants in the game!!!!! Before you got here you said "Put Me In Coach!!!!, I want to play in this game!!!!"

You will go from traveling around your town, to traveling around the Solar System, and into Hollow Earth. You will have hover cars, that get from one place to the other at thousands of miles an hour, if you are taking it slow. You will have a Star Trek replicators that manifests whatever you ask for. You will go from unhealthy to perfect health in a 20 year old body that will last for a thousand years. You will be living in the time in which you helped the World turn to the light, and get back on its feet, and then usher in the new age of space travel and meeting others from all over the Universe. It is easy to see this is going to get very exciting!!!! It is an exciting time of transformation, the great change, and you are right smack dab in the middle of it.

Here Is The EXACT Plan:

O.K. all that being said here is the exact plan so that you know what is going to be happening. I am going to lay it out in a certain order, even though many things are happening at the same time at various stages:

#1) Convert as many of the Dark Souls to the Light as possible and then, instruct the rest to Exit (Die) in a way of their own choosing.

#2) Supply the World with an abundance of Money so that the people of the suffice population of Earth may participate in helping themselves, and at the same time healing the Earth as well.

#3) Change out corrupt governments with a new governmental structures more in line with the principals of the light and love.

#4) Offer healing assistance to the surface population to heal every disease and regrow every limb until all have been returned to perfect health.

#5) Leverage this new planetary wealth coupled with the new benevolent governments to raise the consciousness of the planet up to the 5d level.

(Over Time)

#6) Improve technology and Human experience to the point where money becomes so unimportant that it no longer plays a part in life on Earth.

(Much Later)

#7) Remove everyone from the Planet (The "Gathering") so that she can expand in size by 1/3. After Earth goes through her growth spurt, and it is safe to live there again, we will be allowed to return to live in the Hollow Earth area or we can choose to move to another planet, in another Solar system or Galaxy.

(Much Later)

#8) All Earth souls who have gone through this amazing growing experience living on Earth, will be dispersed through the Universe as teachers, and mentors. We have learned compassion as we were oppressed, and learned love in spite of all that we endured, and finally, we all raised up to the higher frequency by our own choice. Only those who have experienced what we have experienced here on Earth, can teach what we have learned in the process. There is a HUGE difference between knowing and experiencing. We have experienced it all.

Your View Point

If you are the public at large, you don’t even know that anything is going on. However at our point of view, we know that there is a big change coming. We are to have huge amounts of money and go forth and help the World. We are to have a new Restored Republic that will act as the model for other governments around the World. It is so easy to think that we know so much when compared to the sleeping public. However, as much as we think we know, we really don’t know squat about what is really going on, and what the real game moves are.

Do you really think you know everything there is to know about Trump or Ryan? Where did you learn what you think you know? Cabal School, or was it from the Cabal Media? Or was it from some hip "alt right" information source on the Web? Do you really think that you know enough from these sources to determine what the best choice is or is not? I've got news for you.... No matter what you know, or think you know, you don’t know everything that you need to know to decide the matter.

Maybe they were Cabal.... So what... People change and go the right way. Maybe they will or won’t be President.... Again it doesn't matter. All that matters, is that whomever becomes President in the end, will be the most qualified, and most capable person, and the very best choice to take us through this World Change. THAT IS A GIVEN. Frankly, I can guarantee you, that if you knew everything about this that you would need to know, you would make the same choice for the same reasons. Suffice to say, that the best person, the right person, will be the one who gets the job, and they will do exactly what needs to be done, for the best outcome. THAT IS A GIVEN.

Your/Our Perfect Logic

How can logic go wrong? Easy! We think that we are so logical and are so well equipped to decide a point one way or the other. But, ironically, Logic has one huge flaw, You have to know all the facts before you can logically decide anything. You can't debate the logic of our Bases on Mars, if you don't know we have a secret space program. You can't talk about the gravity of Earth, and the nature of its design, if you think that it is solid with a molten core. Science and physics? Forget about it. You don’t even have a chance because the real science is so far advanced beyond what you were permitted to know.

Do you think that you have a better chance in debating politics? No matter how much you think you know, unless you are blood line, you don’t know a thing. Just to show you how clueless we really are, consider a recent post about the secret space program. It turns out that we have several secret space programs and each of them has no idea about the others. Even the people who think they have the highest secret clearances and are in what they think is the most secret program there is, are dumbfounded to find out there are even more secret things they don't know. So I don't care how logical you are, and how much your arguments make sense, they are instantly flawed due to lack of information that you don’t have or have wrong.

So, Who Will It Be?

We can guess all we want about who will be president of some other matters as a sort of game to see who is right. BUT, there is NOTHING to be upset about, because the EXACT right person will get the job, FOR VERY GOOD REASONS, which you may or may not ever know. So guess all you want. Post daily if you like. BUT, don’t get mad about it one way or the other. It works out in the end, just as it needs to be, just as it should be, just as it will be. Whoever it ends up being, and how ever that process happens, it will be the best choice made by the people who know EVERYTHING there is to know on the matter. No more and no less.

It Is Like A Chess Game

The Turning of the Dark into the light is just one strategic move after another. No matter what moves the Dark make, there is a counter move of love beckoning them to turn to the light. However, here is a spoiler alert, the Light winds in the end. All darkness is turned to the light. Some pieces on the chess board change from dark to the light and now assist, and others must be removed from the game altogether. But no matter the moves by the dark, the light wins.

Sometimes we get caught up in the "Game Play" as it is still in progress. We think that Hillary will not debate Trump, but she does instead. Then we think that Obama will resign and the Republic be announced before the election even takes place, but again the game went in a different direction. That is the nature of the game. From the moment the game began, the end was already certain, but between the start and the end it is so fluid and exciting to say the least.

Some said that there was no way that the election would be cancelled by an Obama Resignation. They were right. But was it because that was the plan all along, or were they right because that is how the game happened to go? We may never know. However, there will be lots of people who were right about one thing or another and wrong about others because the game is fluid and changing all the time. However, we know all we need to know and that is "It works out in the end, just as planned."

The Bottom Line

The bottom line, is that debating who will be president or any aspect of this whole plan is an exercise in futility. Even if you are exactly right, it most likely has already changed due to some new situation. To be clear, it is fun to try to figure it all out, while we are waiting, but it is nothing to fight about, since we don’t actually know anyway.

All you have to know about the plan, is that it works out perfectly in the end. In the place where time no longer exists, it has already happened perfectly. Whomever is president, is perfect for reasons you may never know. Don't worry about that because it is already handled by those who do know everything that needs to be known on the matter. What is to happen has already been written in history and is just now playing out before our eyes.

Your part is also already written, but yet to play out and unfold into reality. You get lots of money, and in some way contribute to Humanity and the Earth. That we know. However, your part is also fluid and can go in many different directions from here. It is written that it has happened magnificently in the end, but exactly how, is yet to be seen or experienced by you. That is your part now. Don’t be upset about the parts of the game that are not your parts to play. Instead, concentrate on your part of the World Change, your moves, your game play.

May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of your Dreams

Signed: One Who Believes
by Ssmith
on Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:13 am
 
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Topic: The Exact Plan - One Who Believes 12/20/16
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12/14/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

For those of you who don't remember, SWFloridaGuy was a very popular guru from 2011 until his death in 2013.  This is an excellent example of the kind of things that he would say, and people would swoon over his brilliant insight.  It's all nonsense, of course.  

1.Iraq says it will have the most valuable currency in the world. This requires a dramatic RV. (What they actually said was they have the strongest currency in the region, referring to the fact that they back it 100% with their foreign currency reserves.  They never said that they would have the most valuable currency.  0 for 1.)

2.Iraq, i.e., people, businesses, government, cannot continue to operate with worthless currency.  (It's not worthless.  It's worth less than most but it has value ... $.00086 - same as S. Korea's currency, and they have obviously managed to function at that value for the past five years.  0 for 2.)

3. Iraq may not enter the WTO without an internationally tradable currency.  (So how did S. Korea and Vietnam get into the WTO?  Obviously the value of your currency isn't a factor.  Currencies become internationally tradable as a result of international demand, not from a high valuation.  0 for 3.)

4.Iraq may not be released from Chapter 7 without an RV.  (Most of the sanctions were lifted when Saddam was removed.  The remainder were lifted in 2013.  0 for 4.)

5.Iraq is spending money like there is no tomorrow on U.S. jets, weapons, oil contracts, etc. Payment necessitates an RV. (Apparently not.  Five years later they're at $.00086.  0 for 5.)

6.Public Iraqi bank accounts are overdrawn and require an RV.  (See #5.  0 for 6.)

7.The RV is essential to meet the Iraqi 2012 budget.  (Wrong.  Every year the gurus say the budget requires an RV and every year they're wrong.  0 for 7.)

8.The RV is essential to combat inflation in Iraq.  (Partially right.  There was a spike in inflation when troops left at the end of 2011 so they raised the value 1/3 of 1% in January of 2012.  Not the big RV SWFG was talking about but I'll give him this one.  1 for 8.)

9.The RV (raising of the three zeros) has been the plan from the beginning, before the invasion, as layed out in the 4 year plan.  (The raising of the three zeros is a redenomination, not a revaluation.  No country has ever removed zeros in a revaluation.  And it wasn't the plan from the beginning.  They started talking about it after they got inflation under control in 2009.  1 for 9.)

10.The desperate financial needs of the Euro (global) crisis are producing enormous global pressure requiring an RV of the IQD.  (The Euro is still in trouble five years later, and Iraq still hasn't done this big RV.  The Euro is irrelevant to Iraq because they use the USD and the dinar.  1 for 10.)

11.The U.S. said the Iraq war would not cost us anything financially. The U.S. stands to take in $60 billion over the next several years from 4.3 trillion IQD owned by the UST and tax revenue on 2 trillion dinar owned by U.S. citizens.  (The U.S. said no such thing.  Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld said that Iraq's oil revenues could help cover the cost of reconstruction, but they didn't say that the war wouldn't cost anything.  The U.S. Treasury doesn't own trillions of dinar, either.  That's stated in a DOJ document in the indictment of the BH Group.  1 for 11.)

12.Many world governments (e.g., China, Japan, and U.S.) own trillions of dinars and are depending on the RV to shore up their bottom lines.  (Nonsense.  Nobody wants the IQD except for gullible speculators.  Even the Iraqi people prefer the USD.  Sure, there are dinar speculators all over the world, but that doesn't mean governments are stashing it away in anticipation of a big windfall.  1 for 12.)


SWFG's batting average here was .083, and that's only because I was generous enough to give him full credit on #8.  The reason gurus were able to get away with this BS for so long was that if somebody tried to fact check and challenge them they were labeled troublemakers or negative nellies or lopsters and threatened or banned.  Thankfully now the truth is out there and they can't get away with it.  Thanks for posting this Ssmith.
by Sam I Am
on Wed Dec 14, 2016 11:52 am
 
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Topic: 12/14/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND
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11/22/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

Guru OkieOilman:  "THE OVEN CONTINUES AT 440 DEGREES & THE TURKEY IS ON SLOW BAKE FOR ARRIVAL VERY SOON. CONTRACTORS HAVE BEEN PAID IN IRAQ AT AN "IN COUNTRY RV RATE" OF 3.75 AS OF NOW. WE ARE IN PROCESS OF THIS WORLD EVENT WHICH SHALL COME TO FRUITION. BULLDOG75 SPEAKS FOR US. NUFF SAID."


Guru ScottiG:
 
BELLS ON AND READY TO DANCE, WE HAVE SO MUCH TO BE THANKFUL FOR TO THE ONE THAT HAS GIVEN IT ALL. i SPOKE TO OKIE TODAY AND THE COMMUNICATION HAS NOT WORKED OUT FOR OKIE, 

FIRST WE ARE IN A GREAT PLACE...THE VERY BEST PLACE AND I KNWO FOR CERTAIN THAT THAT RV PROCESS HAS BEEN STARTED

WE HAE TALEN ALOT OF FLACK WE DON'T GET PAID FOR PUMPING. WE TRY TO BRING THE MOST CREDIBLE AND MOST ACCURATE AND THE RATE WILL BE CLOSE TO KUWAIT. i KNOW THAT 3.75 WAS PAID. CONFIRMED THAT THIS IS HAPPENED

I can't stay here but for a few minutes. I have had the phone stuck to my ear since very early this morning. I am digging in attempts to fine tune the information that came in yesterday. I promise you the last thing I wanted to do was share information that put our time frame further out. I am still confident that we will see the completion of the rate adjustment very soon. When I know more, I promise I will come here first and share. I had a good long visit with Okie this mornig and he felt bad about not being able to get through to be on the call last night. Please know that we are doing our very best for this site and for the Lord. When it comes right down to it....He is the one we all should please. Bear and I both will continue to bring only verifiable and credible information here. I do not do the rumor mill. If we share information that we stand upon, it is because it has been checked out. There are many things I am looking at and will compare notes with my sources later. Until then, please continue to be patient. Consider the encouragement Bear and I have shared with you. I hope you will just rest and relax for we are extremely close! Thanks and be back as soon as I am able


Guru FreewayBill:  No reported delays according to everyone I have talked to this evening.... looks like we may see this very soon... yes, you have heard this before, but that is because we are still in the moment... That's all I have for now...

Every single information gatherer is saying the same thing.


Guru Historian:  11/26/11 is the Islamic new year, a great timing for the "new phase" of Iraq.

Also there were some sanctions implemented on Iran yesterday, possibly to slow the RV money from/to Iran as a security measure, this is very significant


Guru AJ Anderson:  We are in a good window of opportunity for this RV thing to happen, but that does not mean it will happen, due to the negotiation’s that are now taking place with all countries hedging one another to find some balance. Some are not pleased and some are very happy.

Here's a piece of intel I am aware of that I have been holding back since yesterday. I was headed to town to take care of some business and on the radio international news was talking about Maliki being in China. The radio stated "China told Maliki that, we are not going to do business with you until you revalue your money". WOW, I said to myself, I need to check into this! I have known since last summer that BIG lumber mills in the Pacific Northwest has been selling lumber to China by the hundreds of millions of board feet. I know this because my brother in law is a big manager at one of these mills.

So, I call him yesterday and he told me they were still milling for China and the lumber was being loaded into ships at the docks in Portland Oregon at $856 per Thousand Board Feet and headed for Iraq. He told me, at this time, there is no end in sight to stop milling.

Me knowing China has the biggest housing deal in Iraq, they need the lumber. The start up money for those orders is coming from part of the DFI funds and so where's the rest coming from? There's only one answer to that question and I think you know that answer, from what the radio news broadcaster said, China told Maliki. I Know you know the rest of the story, We Are Getting Close! AJ



Guru Bear5642: ALL INFORMATION HAS BEEN VERIFIED AND VERIFIED MULTIPLE TIME AND WE UNDERSTAND YOUR FLUSTRATIONS 

WE COULDNT GO INTO DETAIL AS TO WHY WE WERE TOLD NOT BY THANKSGIVING, HOWEVER, IT WILL BE WITHIN A FEW DAYS AND IM STILL MAKING PLANS TO CASH OUT SOON. IT IS NOT “O”, PLEASE BELIEVE ME HE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS DELAY… we do have information as to what is actually going on…and its not political…it is a matter of simple economics if that helps… IT IS IN IRAQ AND IT IS SMALL ON…i hope and believe it will go now in just a few days and dont see this going past next friday, it can actually happen this friday…I DONT SE IT GOING PAST DECEMBER, ABSOLUTELY NOT, IT IS A PROBLEM THAT CAN BE SOLVED AND THEY ARE WORKING ON IT, CANT SAY MUCH MORE THOUGH…JUST BE PATIENT.


Guru TNT Tony: Got a call from someone who is not on the boards, who is involved in dinar, said on Fox news on Saturday, they said “Iraqi dinar was the highest currency in the world”, they just knew that the RV would be today/tomorrow. Still looking for this any minute, any hour. I’m excited. If you were paying attention, the Super Committie went away, that was the last hold up…if it was from Saturday night the 72 hours started…that’s what your window is…things are still processing…it’s being done, just be patient, you’re going to see it, that part has not changed. It’s going to be a great week, we are absolutely at the end.


Guru DinarWishes: we are digging to find what we can and the DAY IS STILL YOUNG!!! I will say that I truly believe we will have more than just turkey to be thankful for this week!!! Just know we are putting every effort into searching for this and getting the best information we can give out to you guys!!!


Guru Checkmate Dan: LETS NOT FORGET THAT THIS IS A WEEK OF THANKS FOR MANY REASONS, SOME BECAUSE OF THE HOLIDAY, OTHERS BECAUSE THEY UNDERSATND THE MEANING OF LIFE, YET THE REST BECAUSE THE RIDE IT ABOUT TO BE OVER…THERE IS GOOD NEWS AND THERE IS A GREAT DAY IN FRONT OF US!!!!!


Guru Jonnywg:  WELL MY FRIENDS YET AGAIN WE COME TO THE FINISH LINE WITH NO RESULTS. I CANNOT EXPRESS HOW DISAPPOINTED I AM FOR WE HOLDERS OF DINAR. OUR SOURCES WERE POSITIVE THAT THIS WAS OUR TIME. GOVERNMENT SOURCES FELT THAT IT WAS THE END. MY FEELINGS AND SYSTEMS CHECKS ALL POINTED TO AN RV OVER THE PAST WEEK AS THERE LITERALLY IS NOTHING LEFT TO HOLD THIS UP.. I WILL PROMISE YOU THAT I WILL DO MY BEST TO FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT IF ANYTHING WENT WRONG. I THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND RESOLVE TO DO BETTER

[size=18]UST still in lockdown as of 4PM. Bank screens are still 00.000.  [/size][size=18]RV should be any time today or tomorrow.  [/size][size=18]China is influencing the RATE ... AND made it higher. [/size][size=18]All admins say we are FINISHED......BUT not released yet.[/size][size=18]It is hard for me to think that they can come up with more delays....all is done.  [/size][size=18]No commitment but 3.41 to 7 looks good.     [/size][size=18]done by end of day at latest.   [/size][size=18]China and Japan heavily invested in IQD .... leverage for them.  [/size][size=18]Do not listen to any talk of lopping the 3 zeroes .... period
this time there was no misinfo…all verified and still true…no answers…UST still in lockdown, RV in country confirmed, I think we are waiting for UST to end input…then RV…we have confirmed that govt employees and contracters have received an rv’d value for their dinar…LATE BREAKING NEWS: 72 hrs may not have started FRIDAY…we are researching.[/size]


Guru Kaperoni: 10 reasons why the IQD will not LOP:

1. Monetary policy was a success talking inflation from 35% or higher to around 7% currently.

2. Any type of currency devaluation (LOP) is considered a failure of monetary policy. Dr. Shabibi has not failed. 3. Lesser value notes in circulation such as 50, 250, 500. Devaluing the larger

3 zero notes would make them worth less than these lesser notes.

4. Iraq wants the dinar to be an international reserve currency. Cannot devalue the notes in reserve (25,000), circulate them as payment, or traded amongst countries.

5. Iraq holds arguable the second largest oil reserves and is mineral rich. They are too wealthy to not honor the value stated on the notes.

6. Iraq has stated. They want the “strongest currency in the Middle East” Any such type of LOP would be a devaluation and therefore not considered strong.

7. US holds dinar as a result if funding the CBI initial reserves. This dinar will eventually payoff the war debt.

8. One of the authors of the currency exchange plan – Assistant Professor Dr. Fadel states in his documentation, “We must emphasize the extremely important issue is that if you remove three zeroes from the currency should not affect the actual value thereof to be trading in the old currency…

9. In 2003 when the NID was introduced at it’s initial rate, the previous currency was in essence devalued taking all wealth from the country to prevent funding of terrorism. Raising the currencies value will in essence, return that wealth now that the GOI is stable and economic conditions have improved.

10. The CBI has stated “both currencies will co-exist” and the process will not change the “monetary value” of the dinar.


Guru BWM:  OK... it was relatively quiet today... nothing negative... the Super Committee was set up to fail, you have the most conservative Republicans and the most liberal Democrats...no way anything was getting done... just killing time... There is still a chance this could happen tonight... so don't get wound up by those already bailing on their latest guess and back wall that says it can't happen by this date or that... until there is a reason that it is being held up it can still go IMO


Guru Med: I PAY ATTENTION TO ONE PERSON, SHABIBI AND WHATEVER HE STATES IS WHAT IT IS TO BE AND THE LAST EXPLANATION THAT CAME TO US BY HIM IS: INCREASED PURCHASING POWER BY RAISING THE ZERO’S, ISSUING NEW DENOMS IN 3 LANGUAGES AND THEN OVER TIME RETIRING THE LARGE DENOMS OVER ABOUT A 2 YR PERIOD, THAT HE WANTS A RATE COMPARIBLE TO THE USD SO IT WILL BE AN EASY TRANSITION AND WILL MAKE THE IRAQI PEOPLE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IN USING IT IN TRANSACTIONS. IT WAS STATED THAT THIS WILL BE POSITIVE FOR THE POOR AND BE NEGATIVE FOR THE WEALTHY OR ENTITLED.

Guru Mailman17: THURSDAY, NOT ON THE DOCKET FOR SHABS BILL BUT WE SHALL SEE…THIS IS OF COURSE IRAQ WHAT THEY SAY AND WHAT THEY DO ARE MOST OF THE TIME 2 DIFFERENT THINGS. IF NOT THIS THURS…THEN WE WAIT TILL NEXT THURS. JUST BE PATIENT OUR TURN WILL COME


Guru Lawman (GET): It seems that ALL is imminent……..Yes, it looks that way!
If you were a Muslim and you are in the middle of a Religious Holiday ( banks and government buildings are closed until Thursday morning) Would you be happy if the rest of the world benefited from an RV 2 to 3 days BEFORE YOU?.

NO……me neither……….So, could we assume that should it RV this week, it would be better to wait until Thursday or Friday?.

Part of addressing the world imbalances……..Diplomacy is involved in this, too!  Is Friday Iraq’s favourite RV Day?.
What date is Friday?  Could the GBP and USD be revalued too? (A POINT USUALLY FORGOTTEN)

As of today…GBP=$1.60………Some of the calculations on these boards are…. well……diplomatically…..NOT VERY GOOD!

……Should GBP devalue down to £=$1.50…..and 1IQD=£4.44…………What would the $ rate be? (other mathematical variations work with this as well…simple multiplication) ….

Let me help….Should GBP devalue to 1£=$1.50…..and 1IQD=£4.44……the U.S. rate would be $6.66!!!!!….SHOCK AND AWE!!!!….just a thought..


OOM SECURITY MEASURES:
# 1 DO NOT PARK IN BANK PARKING LOTS. WOULD SHOW YOUR CAR TAGS.

#2 GO TO BANK WITH FELLOW DINARIAN, SOMEONE REALLY CLOSE TO YOU. WEAR CAP, SUNGLASSES. TAKE TAXI PARK 1-2 MILES AWAY, YOU CAN BE FOLLOWED OR TAILED

:#3 MAKE AN APPOINTMENTS KNOW THAT THEY ARE DEALING IN DINAR

#4 DO NOT CASH IN ALL AT ONE TIME AND SEEK ADVICE. KNOW YOUR RATES AND KNOW THAT THEY CAN FLUCTUATE AND THEY CAN COME IN LOW, MEDIUM AND HIGH

#5 HAVE A PRE-DETERMINED GAME PLAN: WHO, WHAT, WHEN, WHERE, WHY,
KNOW YOUR GAME PLAN

:#6 GET PROFESSIONAL ADVICE THROUGH BANKER OR DEALER. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CPA/ATTORNEY COMBINATION. USE ATTORNEY'S PHYSICAL ADDRESS FOR YOUR CORPORATION.

:# 7: WATCH BODY LANGUAGE AND OTHERS BODY LANGUAGE TELLERS ETC

#8: BE RELAXED AND READY

#9 NO RUSH TO CASH IN; KNOW YOUR RATES AND WHAT TO DO & BARGAIN. WE ARE NOT QUOTING RATES OR DATES

:# 10 MAKE SURE IN NON INTEREST BEARING CHECKING ACCOUNT AND THEN HAVE WIRED TO DIFFERENT ACCOUNT. SEEK PROFESSIONAL ADVICE.

#11 MANY INVESTMENTS INSURE UP TO 1 BILLION DOLLARS AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE AND MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THEIR CO. POLICIES.

# 12 HOME ADDRESS HOTTEST TOPIC: NEVER USE HOME ADDRESS THEN UPS KNOWS WHO LIVES THERE. THERE ARE TRACK RECORDS AND YOU MAY NEED TO MOVE. YOUR NAME WHEN WE CASH OUT NAME AND ADDRESS WILL BE SEEN BY MANY MANY TELLERS AND THEN TO IRS 5-10 PEOPLE WILL SEE YOU NAME AND BANK ACCOUNT HOME ADDRRSS, PHONE NUMBER SOC. SEC. IT IS LEGAL TO GET BOXES THAT YOU CAN USE AS HOME ADDRESS. MOST STATES ALLOW THAT. THEY ARE ABUNDANT.

#13: IF ANYBODY HAS RECEIVED PACKAGES OR BANK STATEMENTS THERE WILL BE TRACK RECORDS IN DATA BASE. WHEN YOU MAKE DEPOSIT MAKE SURE YOU TRANSFER SAME DAY OR WITHIN ONE WEEK. YOU DO NOT WANT A WIRE BACK IF YOU MOVE IMMEDIATELY

#14. MAKE MAIL TO P O, BOXES. USE PASSPORT FOR IDs; NOT DRIVERS LICENSE.

#15. USE PASSPORT ONLY. DRIVERS LICENSE MAY BE TIED TO SOCIAL SECURITY WITH THAT DATA CAN FIND OUT WHERE YOU LIVE. IF BANK ALREADY KNOWS ADDRESS HAVE THEM CHANGE IMMEDIATELY ONLY YOU CAN MAKE DECISION. DO NOT WANT ANYONE KNOWING HOME ADDRESS

#16: 2 COMPUTERS 1 FOR NON INTERNET BANK AND PRIVATE STUFF AND ONE FOR BANK, ID# , ACCTS, STORAGE FOR PERSONAL. 1 FOR EMAIL AND WEB STUFF AND ONE HIGHLY SECURED

#17. BULLDOG be careful with all your internet browsing AND SITES. TYVM.

be sure medical records are kept completely private home address and SS# are on those records...

#18: MEDICAL RECORDS KEEP COMPLETELY PRIVATE AND CHANGE ADDRESSES ETC ON OOM SITE THERE ARE MEANS AND WAYS TO PROTECT. WE WANT TO HELP YOU BE PROTECTED FROM THE WOLVES IN SHEEPS CLOTHING.



DV Member GoFast350Z:  11/18/11  Any of you who have read my previous few posts know how I came upon this investment. Kept my mouth shut so far but just received a phone call from my uncle stating that Wooten, head of the treasury under Bush called and said RV has been announced in Iraq and we should here about this by the weekend days rolling around. Let the soft words fly cause I guess I'm a guru now but I've got my armor on so no feelings hurt. Anyone else have anything to back up my rant?

You guys all rock like tube socks in a 70's porno!...I didn't hear anything about rates but I'm a little overwhelmed by the phone call myself. Staying grounded, gettin my bike ready to fly high at the track tomorrow and goin on about my business...but in case it is actually true, I get to thump my chest just a bit...haha. God bless every single one of you wonderful people! Hope all comes to fruition for us, we deserve it by now.

Uncle is a friend of the bush family. Has dinner with them regularly here in highland park north dallas. He's in IT for valvoline. He's just a simple farm hand, rodeod for a while, rode semi pro MX and just has been an honest hard worker like the rest of us...good guy just in the right place at the right time with the right people.

I don't know the back story about Tony but sounds like he beat you to that limb...actually sounds like he found the end of it and didn't quite touch the ground if you get what I mean...I hear a lot of bashing about that guy...none of which sounds good so I hope I don't fall into the same bucket come monday.

Not asked...was told about this. Matter of fact, if I'm not completely talkin out my butt here, I believe he said Wooten was at that dinner when it came up in conversation. I want to say there were only about 12 or so people there and...ummm...yeah, I think that's it. I want to stick to what I know to be factual and not shoot my mouth off.


I don't know whether to be offended or happy!...haha. Still haven't heard back from my uncle. I'm sure he'll call me this evening to chat so I'll be back as usual later this evening. Trust me, if I hear anything I'll be too damn giddy to stay away from here very long.
Blessings to all and GO RV!!!

I'm going to be calling my uncle again in the next hour so hold tight everybody and let's see what else is crackin in the wacky world of dinar BS today.


11/21/11  Well...not to be rude but that's the difference between you and I. I did call but got no answer, he's a busy guy and I refuse to blow someones phone up, especially on a weekend, common courtesy dictates you don't do those kind of things. He's family, not some jack wagon I found out had intel.
by Ssmith
on Tue Nov 22, 2016 10:33 am
 
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Topic: 11/22/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND
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Top 10 Most Valuable Currencies in the World

Top 10 Most Valuable Currencies in the World

By
Jake Briscoe
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Aug 5, 2016


Topics tagged under 8 on Dinar Daily Currency

Most Americans have probably heard other people complain about the “weakness” of the American dollar. How can currency be weak? A weak currency is one with a value that has depreciated over time. When someone says that the American dollar is weak, they’re basically saying that the dollar isn’t worth very much. So, this begs the question: what are the most valuable currencies in the world? In this article, I’ll break down the top ten most valuable currencies in the world, discussing how they compare to the American dollar and how their given economies allow them to be so strong.

#10 – Brunei Dollar

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The Brunei dollar has been in use since 1967 by the Nation of Burnei, as well as Singapore. The bill comes in denominations similar to that of the American dollar: B$1, B$5, B$10, B$50, and B$100. Although this currency is also spent in Singapore, it is predominantly used in the country of Brunei. Brunei is a sovereign state in Southeast Asia, and although it may be small, it has a fairly wealthy economy. The majority of their GDP comes from crude oil and natural gas production, and Brunei is actually the fourth largest producer of oil in Southeast Asia. Not only that, but the country has also recently tried to make itself a small hub for international travel, with Royal Brunei Airlines being founded during the mid-1970s. One Bruneian dollar is worth approximately .73 American dollar.

#9 – Australian Dollar


Topics tagged under 8 on Dinar Daily Australian-dollar

This next currency is a little less obscure. One Australian dollar is worth .76 American dollar. Although the Australian dollar is obviously used primarily in Australia, it is also used in Nauru, Tuvalu, and Kiribati. (It is also used unofficial in Zimbabwe.) Australia’s economy is as strong as you would expect from one of the wealthiest countries in the world, relying primarily upon the country’s banking, manufacturing, and mining. Australian notes come in denominations of A$5, A$10, A$20, A$50, and A$100. The notes themselves are pretty interesting, too. Australia was actually the first country in the world to implement a system of bank notes that were made of polymer. This unique note material means that Australian money is cleaner and easier to recycle than traditional paper money.

#8 – Canadian Dollar

Topics tagged under 8 on Dinar Daily Canadian-dollar

Next on our list is the Canadian dollar, which is officially used by Canada and unofficially used by Saint Pierre and Miquelon. One Canadian dollar equals around .77 American dollar. The most commonly used denominations of the Canadian dollar are C$5, C$10, C$20, and C$50. (Canada has a $100 note, but it isn’t used as often as the other notes are.) Starting in 2011, Canada has put a polymer versions of these notes into circulation. The Canadian dollar is actually one of the most held reserve currencies in the world. Its popularity can be owed to Canada’s general economic and political stability. Although the value of the Canadian dollar has definitely decreased over time, Canada’s strong scientific and energy-based economy should keep the value of the currency stable for the foreseeable future.

#7 – Swiss Franc

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Is there anything that the Swiss can’t do? The Swiss franc is the next valuable currency on our list, with a value of 1 Swiss franc per 1.03 American dollar. Swiss franc banknotes come in 10, 20, 50, 100, 200 and 1,000 denominations. The Swiss franc is characterized by its use of different colors in its banknotes, which are yellow, red, green, blue, brown, and purple. They’re obviously used in Switzerland, but they can also be found in Liechtenstein and Campione d’Italia as an official currency. The strength of the Swiss franc is almost a no-brainer. Switzerland is one of the wealthiest countries in the entire world, being home to a massive technology sector and a host of different major corporations, like The Swatch Group and Nestle.

#6 – Euro

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Of course, you can’t have an article about currency without talking about the euro. The euro’s banknotes come in denominations of €5, €10, €20, €50, €100, €200, and €500. Although it may not be the most valuable currency on this list, the euro is definitely one of the biggest currencies on this list. The euro is used throughout the entire Eurozone, which contains over a dozen countries, including Austria, France, Germany, and Italy. For hundreds of millions of people across several different countries, the euro is the golden standard, so to speak. In terms of value, one euro is worth around 1.12 American dollar. The reach of the euro is its greatest strength, but it also serves as its greatest weakness. In 2012, the euro’s value dropped pretty significantly due to economic trouble in Greece and Spain.

#5 – British Pound

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Finally, we are brought to the British pound sterling. Like the Canadian dollar and the euro, the pound is one of the world’s most frequently traded currencies. One pound is worth approximately 1.32 American dollars. Not only that, but the pound also holds the honor of being the oldest currency in the world that is still currently in use. Its use can be traced back as far as Anglo-Saxon Britain, which would make the pound around 1200 years old. The pound is used most frequently in the United Kingdom, as well as Guernsey, Isle of Man, and Jersey. British pound banknotes come in a variety of different denominations, with the most commonly used notes being £5, £10, £20, and £50. Like the euro, the British pound has lost a great deal of buying power over the years. However, it is still a global superpower as far as currencies go.

#4 – Latvian Lats

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So, it may sort of be cheating to place the Latvian lats on this list. Why is that? Starting in 2013, Latvia has begun to phase the lats out in place of the euro. Today, it is technically not in use by any country. However, the lats still has value in both world and local exchange. Today, one lats is worth approximately 1.61 American dollars. Prior to being taken out of circulation, the lats came in banknote denominations of 5, 10, 20, 50, and 100 latu. As far as currency goes, the lats was pretty young — the first lats were introduced into Latvia in 1922. Originally, they were implemented as a replacement of the Latvian rublis, which was the currency used by Latvia immediately after they had won their independence from Russia. Although the lats will be dead within a few years, it still holds a great deal of value.

#3 – Omani Rial

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This next currency is the first currency on the list to only be used by a single country. (I don’t think the lats really counts, considering the fact that it isn’t actually used by any country anymore.) The rial is only used in the country of Oman. One rial is equivalent to around 2.60 American dollars today. Its banknotes come in denominations of 100 and 200 baisa (which are like the cents to the Omani “dollar”) as well as 1/2, 1, 5, 10, 20, and 50 rials. Before the rial was implemented in Oman in 1970, the country had primarily used the Gulf rupee and the Indian rupee. Oman started to roll out coins in 1940, and it took a few decades for the new currency to fully take hold. The value of the rial is fairly stable, supported by Oman’s powerful oil and gas-based economy.

#2 – Bahraini Dinar

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You may have noticed that a common theme among valuable currencies is an economy backed by the oil industry. The Bahraini dinar is sort of unique among the other elite currencies in that it doesn’t rely upon oil exports. The Bahraini dinar is only used in Bahrain, and it is valued at around 1 Bahraini dinar per 2.65 American dollars. The dinar comes in banknote denominations of BD 1/2, BD 1, BD 5, BD 10, and BD 20. Until 1965, however, Bahrain’s currency consisted entirely of coins, broken up into different denominations of “fils”. The Bahraini economy was the first post-oil economy to exist in the Persian Gulf. The bulk of its economy relies upon banking, financial services, and tourism. In 2006, reports showed that Bahrain actually had the fastest growing economy in the Arab world. The value of the dinar has benefited from this stable, diversified economy.

#1 – Kuwaiti Dinar

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Finally, we are brought to the most valuable currency in the world: the Kuwaiti dinar. The Kuwaiti dinar is solely used by the people of Kuwait, and one dinar is worth a whopping 3.31 American dollars. Like the Bahraini dinar, the Kuwaiti dinar is broken up into different denominations of “fils”. Currently, Kuwaiti dinars can be found in banknotes of 1/4, 1/2, 1, 5, 10, and 20 dinars. During Iraq’s invasion of Kuwait in the 1990s, the Kuwaiti dinar was replaced by the Kuwaiti dinar, It has since been re-implemented, however. How is this dinar so strong? Kuwait actually possesses the fourth highest per capita income in the world, largely thanks to the country’s massive oil reserves. The mass majority of Kuwait’s exports consist of both crude and refined petroleum oils.

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by RamblerNash
on Sun Nov 13, 2016 8:49 pm
 
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Topic: Top 10 Most Valuable Currencies in the World
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Martha & Iko 1/18/16

@Ssmith wrote:IKO, going first with update on where we are LOAN Officer within WF receiving swift codes to do final input tomorrow. treat as rumor. watching ships like an electronic hawk

IKO..THE N GULF IS FULL WITH TANKERS TYING UP TO IRANIAN PIERS..TUGS, SUPPLY SHIPS ALL THERE

ships are not tied up and left . but, supplies, and some tankers up and down the iranian coast. money starting to flow

MONEY IS STARTING TO FLOW...QUESTION IS WHERE IS IT FLOWING FROM

MARTHA: READ IN REUTERS IRAN HAS RI'D AND HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT 48 HRS THEY WILL RV


HEARD THERE WS A PROBLEM WITH SHIPMENT FROM VENEZUELA TO IRAN (SIDE DEAL MAYBE) THAT NEEDS TO BE STRAIGHTENED OUT

trying to finish up contracts. shipments with Venz and Iran, trying to straighten out. lots of side deals. contracts and rates, swift codes. working to straighten all out.

IF Iraq is coming to N.Y. tomorrow, could happen tomorrow night. we don't know who all got paid in Iraq. heard all sorts of #'s, needs to settle on a mutual #

MARTHA...IF IRAQ COMING TO WASHINGTON MAYBE IT IS TO SETTLE ON THE CORRECT RATES

BLONDIE: MARTHA WHAT IS YOUR "FEEL GOOD TIMEFRAME"

MARTHA WEDNESDAY BUT IT WILL HAPPEN FAST, THE DOOR OPENS STARTING WED

IRAN WAS TO DO SOMETHING 48 HRS AFTER THE FACT, THEY RI'D ALREADY

Martha; all went backwards, Iran was supposed to do something 48 hours AFTER the fact, but the RI, paying off all debts needed settleing, wants the rates they want the oil at. then, she feels it's a go

bLONDIE: ASKED MARTHA HAS OBAMA ENTERED HIS RESIGNATION..

Martha,  reserving her commentary until tomorrow ..  addressing call for tomorrow, NESARA
TOMORROW TUESDAY, WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL NESARA CALL AT 3:30 EST FOR 90MIN OR SO

USING THE WINGIT NUMBER (THE SAME AS CALLED FOR THIS CALL) # 641-715-3580 159453#

MARTHA: THE CALL TOMORROW WILL BE ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE NEW REPUBLIC WILL BE ESTABLISHED

Martha meets Imperium. Talking about the possibility of the new republic coming in, indications coming in stronger that that needs to happen. articles trickling out into the room, sited an article out of Florida.  MIAMI HERALD REPORTED SHADOW GON'T ESTABLISHED

Possible G. Dunford possible president, until proper election done. Alots of criticizm on NESARA.

SUPPOSEDLY THE NESARA HAS BEEN VOTED ON BY THE GOV'T TO RE ESTABLISH THE GOLD STANDARD.  NESARA blocked by Congress, its purpose to return us to the gold standard.

TOMORROW WE WILL DISCUSS THIS "CONSPIRACY" THEORY  On tomorrows call, break open the conspiracy on NESARA. Martha, read last three chapter 23, 24, 25 of Creature of Jeckly/Hyde Google, NESARA .. read it, good, bad and indifferent
Plan included the BRICS, dynasty and what need to go forth in forder to move forth.

ZAP .. most acurate conclusion as to where we are, what's needed left to do. hoping for tomorrow.

LAST NIGHTS ZAP THE MOST ACCURATE IN WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO GET EVERYTHING IN ORDER

Martha: don't be afraid to ask questions tomorrow on that call. IMPERIUM: going to wait until tomorrow to contribute on call with Martha

IKO .. regarding waiting for oil rates to be official, the past 2-1/2 days, once the oil dropped below 29 ( ?? ), feels they are negotiating how things are to be set thing up. 

THEY LOADED 2 LPG TRANSPORTS AND SENT THEM ON THEIR WAY BUT NO CRUDE OIL HAULERS

Q and A time

wheels: Martha, please reiterate NESARA law. google in NESARA , look for nesara law, all capitals

IF WE DON'T HAVE THE JEKYLL ISLAND BOOK, LISTEN ONLINE...READ THE "DOOMSDAY CHAPTERS" 

if we watch the vidoes on C Jeckel Island, watch the youtube videos, are they the same? Martha, don't know.


Mystical: http://www.pdfarchive.info/pdf/G/Gr/Griffin_G_Edward_-_The_Creature_fr​om_Jekyll_Island.pdf Read last 3 chapters especially

Caller Trisha: Q: IKO / MARTHA in last night regarding WITHERIN. had some really unusual info: o holding up, two months out, bush and group good guys, china russia not in favor...the whole thing of NESARS /new republic. totally opposite of everything we've heard.

Gerry's answer: if it's the real weithering, we welcome him to come on this call. could aslo be someone stiring the pot. Gerry questions the authentic nature of who this guy is. Way, too far down the line, too much has happened.

GERRY: NOBODY KNOWS THE RATE AND DATE BUT LOOK AT IKO, MARTHA DIZZY BEAR....LOOK AT WHAT IRAQ IS DOING... look where we are. Watch what they are doing, not what they are saying.

caller was upset at witherins statements that we are two months away.

IKO; addressing Trisha question: for what Withering posted today, the real withering has a particular humor, if you didn't recognize it, it was not the real mccoy. today, he sounded indignitant, which he should have been.  anyone who comes on at this point and states it's a month off is absolutely doing noting buy trying to make trouble.

iran is coming onto the internatinal market, and cannot come unless these other countries come out. china wil not allow this

it's like a huge red neon sign: the RV is here. maybe not until tonight/tomorrow at 3am..but it's here.

CHINA WILL NOT LET THAT HAPPEN...SEE WHAT IS MOVING, IRAN IS MOVING, THEY HAVE RI'D...THE RV IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER

jeeter Q: specifically about the iranial rial, articles saying sanctions lifted but domestic trade embargos preventing some trades: financial institutions. can we exchange this in the US?

IKO response: he doesn't think we can exchange rial, before dinar.

IE: if we excanged the rial, turned around and purchased a whole bunch of other currencies, over tiping the bucket. understand anxicities. trash the stryofom cup.

jeeter: even if the dinar and rial go at same times, (all currencies) seems like there is specific language allowing or not allowing financial institutions to exchange. some banks may not be wanting / allowed to exchange in the us, on the rial

Martha: they rial has been reinstated, but lots of paperwork needs to be cleared, money deals on table, A. Merkel now opeing up trade agreements with iran; when al is said and done, the rial with rv with the basket of currencies. but, is happening backwards. rial has reinstated, next two days, we should have an rv for everyone. not going to come out seperately. will be together.

IRAQ is the shiny star.  all will become traded currencies, all banks will be doing the exchanges. they are all getting ready.

also, why would the Swiss bank approve iran to come back on board. iran has been accepted back into the swift system

waiting to see if iran has joined the AIIB. we wait our turn.

Q, IKO, what did the rial at. ? $3.32  MARTHA BELIEVES IRAN AT THE SAME RATE AS IRAQ

IKO, must remember there are a 1,000 deals mixed up with iran / iraq / vietnam/ etc. tons of stuff negotiated 10 - 30 years ago, all needs to happen basically at the same time for this to go. IRAN has RI'd, they are trying to move ahead and do business as usual

IKO:IRAN HAS RI'D AND THEY ARE DOING BUSINESS NOW.   all of the previous commerce agreements will be made to happen, and makes sense to him that the RV, is following the RI. Call banks, can I exchange the Rial? Banker: NO.

Q; regarding the North koreans, how will NESARA solve this problem? tempting the whole world into fighting/ warring

A. THESE COUNTRIES ARE WAKING AMERICA UP SAYING WE WILL DO WHAT WE HAVE TO TO PROTECT OURELVES

Martha: just thinks they are protecting their territory. wanting / forcing the US to wake up, we will protect ourselves. biggest issue is ISIS.  in ME, all countries coming together, helped to get them out. also by dropping the oil prices, IsIS losing their money. IRAN wants to look at the potential issues that oil may not be around in the future.

caller: likes the idea that oil will become oil free. looking forward to newer technologies.

Martha; eventually we will not need oil as energy: telsa, amazon building cars, other sources of energy, cleaner, this is the ultimate goal, clean up ecology

caller: koreans .. US leave us alone?

Martha, everyone wants this.  EVERY COUNTRY WANTING THE US TO STOP ENGAGING IN THEIR BUSINESS

Martha: looking forward to our dollar being asset backed, more value. no more pyrmading, getting to parity.  AFTER PARITY, GOLD WILL BE MORE VALUABLE AND PRICES ON EVERYTHING WILL GO DOWN

Caller: most people having a hard time hanging onto their money, inflation, no value. wanting gold to provide more value.

Martha: cost of goods will go back down, and gas down below a $1.00 $1.73 in Florida, still heading downwards. thinks we'll see oil at $20.00 barrel
GAS IS UNDER 1.00 IN SOME PLACES IN THE US ALREADY IN MICHIGAN .   .77 A GALLON

caller: like to see a balance come about, more equal for all, more fairness, quality back to americans

Tex2007 Q: 3 questions: #1 for the last 3 years , been hearing derivitives. been put in it's own compartment, however the banks now stuck with blown up oil contracts based on x amount of dollars, who is going to pay those bills. liability of bail ins on bank depositers

#2 those 1,000 of contracts written re: contractors in all of those countries, how will we work thru this.

#3 RE: Wetherin; we were friends on TNT, in chat last night he said a 4-letter word, the real W would never have spoken like that. W rebuffed that, well, I was just giving intel.  W stated he gave his real name. But, doen't believe he was. the SECOND W that came in, she believes was the real one.

TEX2007 regarding the oil contracts that are blowing up in the banks, what will happen to them?

Martha, heading into bail-in’s this week the piss test. 

MARTHA...CHINA HAS TAKEN OWNERSHIP OF SOME OF THE TOP 5 BANKS..
SOME OF THE BANKS HAVE CONTRACTS, THE TOP 5 INC HSBC WHICH HAS JUST LAID OFF 500...CHASE BOUGHT UP SILVER FUTURES THINNING THE MARKETS WILL RISE AGAIN..WHO WILL PAY FOR ALL OF THIS?

the diverivitives markets covered by China, taken a % ownership; WF under contract by China, China controlling the whole thing. The bonds that were releases to the banks, part of the payout, for theRV HSBC, WF, CITI , they are still doing housekeeping. Chase is another major problem, when it bought up silver futures, thought the market would come back up, buy silver depreciating.

SOME OF THE BANKS HAVE CONTRACTS, THE TOP 5 INC HSBC WHICH HAS JUST LAID OFF 500...CHASE BOUGHT UP SILVER FUTURES THINING THE MARKETS WILL RISE AGAIN..WHO WILL PAY FOR ALL OF THIS?

MARTHA THINKS WE WILL BE SAFE FROM BAIL INS?. thinks that last week, a lot of 401k were wiped out. hopes it doesn't happen, but we may be like Greese/Cyprs, more like a housekeeping, not a failure. doesn't really know, just hoping for the best

everyday, a different notch, try to connect the dots everyday. Watch what people are doing.

IKO: concerning derivatives/bail ins, the asset backed econ is going to change the book, no one written the book yet. derivatives will disappear, and underlying securites will be secured, once we become parity. things will be rough, ways to protect money against bailins. if there are bail ins, shame on you for being included

Prof Florida Q: IKO, how many federal and state taxes on gas? could see at prices go lower, the states will raise taxes. happens when there is a shortage. just be prepared

Lionheart Q: lookig to deversify in order to hold onto monies, thinking about other currencies baskets / assets to invest in to protect and grow monies

Martha says she has the 2nd basket of currencies. She wrote an article about it, roughing them out. 2nd BASKET Here they are: repeat of first basked: NEXT-11 countries, Iraq, Yuan, zim, Indon. Rupiah, India Rupee.

MARTHA: REPEAT OF FIRST BASKET..THEN N 11 COUNTRIES, MOST SE ASIAN, IRAQ, YUAN, US DOLLAR NOT IN, ZIM, INDIAN RUPEE,VIETNAM

2ND BASKET YOU WILL BE PAYING FULL PRICE FOR THE CURRENCY..              the ZIM, will be the international rate, not going to really make any more money, as you will be paying full price for that currency. cannot trade off.

VNN AND IQN IN SECOND BASKET.THEY BALANCE AND COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER  Reason for the 2nd Basket, they balance, they compliment, cold be perhaps for the general public.

Other countries, 2 or so African contries, may come out as 'sleepers' as they've not switched their currencies.  OTHER 2ND BASKET COUNTRIES.AFRICAN COUNTRIES..SLEEPER COUNTRIES,

MARTHA WILL HAVE THOSE TOMORROW.   On tomorrow's call, Martha will give all of the specifics on the 11 countries. they have changed the guidelines, ie: must have $1M to get into the 2nd basket. But, will not really make any more money.

YOU WILL DO MUCH BETTER IN THE 1ST BASKET EXCEPT MAYBE THE BRICS NATIONS..SOUTH AFRICA AND ZAMBIA MAYBE.  Except for the Sleepers. "N" means New.

IKO describing the country Zimbabuawe (sp) "One huge diamond sitting in a pool of Gold, surrounded by a ring of Platinum" (hard to hear him)

IKO: LOOKING AT MARINE TRAFFIC SITE, STATIONED A PILOT SHIP..WHICH IS USED TO DOCK SUPER TANKERS TO START PUMPING OIL IN A FEW HOURS
at Khairg Island, there are 70 super tankers, and their purpulsion sheets are on line. Looks like they'll be pumping oil in a few house.

MARTHA ? CAN SUPERTANKERS GET INTO GALVESTON.

IKO SUPER TANKERS MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET INTO GALVETON PORT BUT BARGES COME OUT AND UNLOAD OFF TANKERS transfer / transport into Galvaston

Gerry: reveived a PM .. people wanting to know how Martha has come about her information? Martha, has business connections in HongKong. Another person is in the Historical Bond Market. 

Martha, I read a lot, books, parents provided my with a lot [love?] of history. READS AND STUDIES LIKE WE ALL CAN

Lionheart: Re all the rumors abut the meeting tomorrow, the rates / cbi, -- do you really believe that is what's going on right now, considering Iraq has already negotiated these things?

IKO, I have mixed signals.

Martha. it's just a formality.  Tomorrow, she thinks it just a look at balancing things out, Cards at $3.41 - $4.71  MEETING IS A FORMALITY TO COME TO A HARD RATE WHERE IRAN AND IRAQ WILL HAVE PARITY, WHERE ALL COUNTRIES WILL BE WITHIN .50 OF EACH OTHER

IKO, experience extremely large projects, like the guys have already done it by the time the project manager shows up. Mr. Project Manager Suit: this is done, you can sign off on it now.

IKO, we're watching an efficient shipping situation, iran has ramped up for it, we're past the point of return, not a slow roll out any longer.

Bob in Texas Q: thanks for this like-minded chat room, intelligent folks. Re: call #8, the marine traffic, lives on the coast area, re: the ships, and poof they're gone. when they parked the ships, was that more to help to put a relieve on the oil porcess to relax

IKO back: the fields off Galvanston, the purpose to have those ships parked there, ?? then, the prices began dropping, prices had been agreed upon, suddenly the agreed upon price, they wanted re-negotiated. but the prices began dropping, and no one wanted to take them the shippers' werent making any money.  So the ships sat in the waters.

these are some very serious men / women who deal with cash on the barrel. they dug in their heels and things then started to get testy. they then got a load of crap from all the oil barrons, but they didn't get teir price, things began up again.

if you look all over the world, the pacific rim are where all these ships are they are still sitting. In Asia not heading West.

Q: by them setting still, does this help with the pricing, or create shortages  IKO, not qualified to state or say

Iko THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INFORMATION BOB IN TEXAS

Martha, equador, think ou are the epitome of intelligence in this group.

EQUADOR: THEY WORRY ABOUT BAIL IN WITH BANK BEEN IN BUSINESS A LONG TIME IF NOT COMFORTABLE WITH BANKS LOOK AT BROKERAGE FIRMS

Q for Martha: wants input, they worry about bail ins with banks, been in business for 50 years. not comfortable with banks, insure with Credit unions, brokerages can insure for up to 150M

IKO IS A NAME OF A JAPANESE WOMAN WHO TOOK CARE OF ME AS A KID IKO CLEARING NAME

BigE Gratitude's on the call. Q: are we going to do a recap at the end, or do one now?
YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT BIGE

Blondie, hoping this is our last call. That's the plan, sometimes have a special call, and will add extra calls, ie: tomorrow with Martha  TOMORROW SAME TIME SAME NUMBER

Steve in Texas: for Iko / Martha, about 30 days ago, spoke of a step-wise plan: groups, internet groups, public. how does this look now, all at once or groups prior

M: don't know, good question.

Iko .. ditto, but guess is, that level of control has been lost. may well be a shotgun approach, we will all know at once, banks will handle us in different ways  Iko TOO PUBLIC NOW.  JUST DO NOT SEE IT HAPPENING THE WAY WE WERE TAUGHT. 

C: bankers being lied to, will they be retraining other bankers?

Iko, experienced that within his bank, last week bumped into the fellow he used to sit and talk with, sorry I've had to be quiet, acknowledge it's going to happen, but can't speak too much on it. his words to me, "I have a special needs child, wife out of work. I can't afford to lose my job over this."

Iko, believes there will be a lot of people to process our needs, work long hours, do what it takes.

C: do you and Martha, think that when it RV, will it be on FOREX for a few days, or make no major announcement

M: I think there will be an announcement, tomorrow could very well become a photo op

Iko: THE MINUTE I HEAR ABOUT THIS I AM EXCHANGING EVERYTHING NOT GOING TO WAIT

Iko, what I'm going to do: when I hear, going to exchange everything, right there. not to play the rate game.

I CAN AFFORD TO DO THAT AND I CAN SMILE THE REST OF MY LIFE IT IS DIFFERENT FOR ALL OF US

GET IN AND DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AND BE THANKFUL FOR WHAT WE GOT

there's enough information ( not INTEL ) that we need to get in do what we need to do, be grateful, and get on with life

C: Martha, do you think that China needs to take the market down further? M: waiting to see what happens tomorrow

M: don't feel this will affect us with the RV, but should help us instead. Also in a period of debt forgiveness. China almost like they are teaching US a lesson

C: it's the US corporation, not the people of America.

M WE ALL HAVE TO GET TOGETHER AND START DOING SOMETHING     MULTIPY ONE PERSON BY ONE PERSON GETTING BIGGER GROUPS TOGETHER

M: I agree, we are all part of this, and we need to form groups ( for the purpose of educations / informing )

BlackEyePea: Q for Iko, you mentioned about 20 min ago about Iran pumping oil, how does this translate to what we're waiting on?

RE: the rial, a big pump going on the the rial, not going to happen before the dinar. Q: doesn't this put added pressure on Iraq / GCR?      Iko / Martha: most definitely

M REMEMBER EVERYONE WE ARE GETTING BITS AND PIECES THE REST OF WORLD IS NOT LOOKING AT THIS

Iko, heard there is a huge meeting happening in the background of the meeting tomorrow. the rest of the world is watching the front show, we know more of the back meetings

Q: can load the ships on an RI, but cannot send it across the ocean without an RV!!!

I: THE SANCTIONS HAVE HURT IRAN ---IRAN HAS BEEN A LEAD NATION THROUGHOUT HISTORY  I: WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST 3-4 DAYS is a miracle.  LOOK HOW THEY MOBILIZED LOOK AT THE HARD INFORMATION THAT IS COMING OUT

look at the hard information, not interpertations. no room for mis-interpertations.  IT IS BLACK AND WHITE THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING TOMORROW

CATAPILLAR STOCK GIVE A COUPLE OF WEEKS WATCH WHAT HAPPENS

No, Iran Central Bank not controlled by US central banks  I; IRAQ STILL A PUPPET OF WESTERN BANK AND WHY WE HAVE BEEN TAUGHT THEM  [Fought them?] BECAUSE WE CANNOT CONTROL THEM  Same with China, Russia. We cannot control them.

 Summary: Martha 30 seconds recap: we're on the cusp of an RV. Iran been reinstated. tomorrow, iraq meeting in N.Y. to finalize a correct rate. everything shold happen very fast. Wednesady onwards.

M: REMEMBER MARTHA;S CALL TOMORROW SAME TIME SAME NUMBER

I: IF HAPPENS TOMORROW STAY CALM GET BEST RATE YOU CAN BE THRILLED WITH THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY PARK IN SAFE PLACES SIT BACK FOR AWHILE

Summary: Iko 30 seconds, I would just add to what Martha said, if this happens tomorrow, or next day: stay level headed, don't be afraid of banker, negotiatate best rate you can, find different ways to park it in safe accords, sit back, have a Blue Moon ...

Iko .. no one has written this script for post RV. smart thing to do: wait and see what happens, act accordingly.

Iko summary on ships: Not going to load the ships in Iran w/o and RI .. they will not let the ships leave the docks w/o and RV!!!!
by RamblerNash
on Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:24 am
 
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Topic: Martha & Iko 1/18/16
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10/30/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

[b]Guru Bulldog75:   [/b]THIS SHOULD BE OUR WEEK.  WE ARE GOOD TO GO. AM REALLY EXCITED FOR EVERYONE. TRAIN A COMIN'.


Guru Med: 
  I THINK WE WILL SEE SHABIBI MOVE AS SOON AS THE VOTE IS OVER.  THAT IS WHY HE BOUGHT THE DE LA RUE MACHINES.  YOU HAVE PARLIAMENTS FINANCE COMMITTEE SAYING YES, YOU HAVE ALL THE BANKS IN IRAQ SAYING YES.  THEY VOTE EARLY ON THE DRAFT TO PRINT, SAY BETWEEN THE 10TH AND 15TH, EXECT THE RV WITHIN WEEKS, EXPECT BEFORE THEIR XMAS.

  LETS DO A RUNDOWN OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST 90 DAYS OR ABOUT.    #1  CBI SUBMITS DRAFT LAW TO PRINT TO COUNSEL OF MINISTERS. #2  COUNSEL OF MINISTERS APPROVES THE CBI DRAFT TO PRINT.  #3 PARLIAMENT DOES THE FIRST READING OF THE DRAFT TO PRINT.  #4 PARLIAMENT DOES THE 2ND READING OF THE DRAFT TO PRINT.#5 PARLIAMENTS FINANCE COMMITTEE ENDORSES THE REMOVAL OF THE ZEROS FROM THE IQD.  #6 BANKS OF IRAQ JOINTLY SUPPORT CBI'S DECISION TO DELETE 3 ZERO'S FROM THE NOMINAL VALUE. #7CBI ORDERS 10 DE LA RUE MACHINES AT A COST OF $15 MILLION PLUS.  #8 WE ARE WAITING FOR PARLIAMENTS RETURN SO THEY CAN VOTE ON THE FINAL APPROVALOF THE DRAFT TO PRINT.  SO THAT IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED BRIEFLY THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS.  WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT IN THAT WAY IT DOESNT SEEM LIKE THEY DRAG THEIR FEET, BUT THEY DO.


Guru Jonnywg:
   We are in expectation of the illusive...it should happen between right now and NOV 1ST.   I HAVE NO NEGATIVE INFO, ALL IS POSITIVE...HAVE NO COMMENT ON RATE...I THINK BANKS FIRST.... BUT WHO CARES.... LET IT SHOW SOMEWHERE...AS THEY SAY...JUST DO IT.


Guru Vic1:  Thank you all, OOM FAMILY, All the Administration and Mod's, Ghost and Last but not Least My Brother OKIE! When We see the Brothers KUWAIT and IRAQ... All the TALK about The PORTS... Mubarak PORT... UMM QASR, Port FAW... The NEED for DEEP WATER PORTS!!!! I ask you all a QUESTION? How many of YOU have been to an OPEN HOUSE on A US Navy AIRCRAFT-CARRIER??? The Strait of HORMUZ.... The IRANIAN Navy has Patrolled... KHARQ ISLAND and Others that Iran TOOK from Neighboring countries in 1975!!! When a US AIRCRAFT-CARRIER ROLLS IN ...MAN EVEYONE PAYS ATTENTION!!! The Persian GULF is OURS(USA)! Do not think so... rermember an Article 5 months ago...When 2 Iranian Naval Ships ...went up the SUEZ canal to the MED., SEA? WHO followed them within 2 DAYS? Kuwaiti Navy?, Saudi Arabian Navy?, UK Navy? French, Chinese, RUSSIAN NAVIES??? NO!!! The Biggest and BADDEST of THEM ALL!!! THE US of A... Baby!!! When where in the MED.SEA... KEEPING a GOOD EYE on TEHRAN... TRYING to HELP THE MAD MAN from TRIPOLI!!! That is WHY .... I chose MY CITIZENSHIP at 18 ... to be and REMAIN... AMERICAN!!! THE RED,WHITE and BLUE!!! So... OUR TROOPS are LEAVING...HUH!!! IS THAT ENOUGH SAID... OR WHAT! GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!! FLY FOREVER...OLD GLORY!!! 


Guru TNT Tony:   In keeping with Dan’s analogy on our Friday call…We are EXPECTING the CBI to send out our announcements within the next 12 hours – Live Presentation of the new baby should be sometime in the next 24 hours –..... .... REMEMBER…Babies come on their own schedule so NO GUARANTEES – If the baby is not delivered by Thursday…expect a C-Section – Have a GREAT DAY – I am out buying stuff for the nursery!


Guru Bear5642:
   WELL I JUST CAME IN TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE AND BELIEVE WE SHOULD SEE THIS COME TO FUITION THIS WEEK, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY.   I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING NEW SINCE FRIDAY AND IT IS EXTREMELY QUIET RIGHT NOW THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM.  I JUST KNOW THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN WHEN ALL BANKS ARE OPEN AND THE LATEST SEEMS TO POINT TO FOREX FIRST, MY GUESS IS THIS COULD POP EITHER CBI, FOREX OR ALL BANKS AT ONE TIME.  WE WILL KNOW THE MINUTE IT HAPPENS.  THIS RIDE IS DEFINATELY COMING TO AN END.

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND WHEN WE FIRST CAME IN WITH THE NEWS OF A 30 DAY DELAY WE ACTUALLY SAID ORIGINALLY IT COULD GO TO THANKSGIVING HOWEVER WE WERE TOLD IT WASH BEING PROCESSED A LOT MORE QUICKLY NAD THATS WHY WE ARE LOOKING INTO THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER

OK I HOPE I HAVE BROUGHT SOME GOOD NEWS TO EVERYONE AND I MUST BE GOING. WE DO EXPECT TO GET SOME CALLS OUT OF IRAQ TODAY OR TOMORROW AND AS ALWAYS YOU WILL HEAR IT IN OKIES HOUSE FIRST


Guru BWM:   my biggest struggle with this has been the idea that this is all iraq now... it's not and the fate of the economical balance hangs in the future of this going on... so while it should/could have been resolved months ago understand that every country has pinned their hopes on this helping them IMO.  some may want to point to that date based on the G20 meetings and some other factors... there are several other issues that need to be resolved before then that should lead to us seeing it before then... I still believe we are anytime...attitude has not changed about that with what I have heard

 
Guru OkieOilman
(via Ghost):   JUST A SHORT STOP OVER RE-FUELING OKIE'S PLANE--HIS REPORT STILL STANDS ABOUT THE TIMING OF THIS EVENT--IT SHOULDN'T BE LONG NOW. HE HAS BEEN IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THE M.E. AND THE NECESSITIES ARE ACCOMPLISHED--THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO SAY

OKIE TOLD ME TO POST HE WILL BE OUT OF THE STATES FROM NOV7 THRU NOV 30TH AND PROBABLY OUT OF COMMUNICATION LOCALLY

THIS BOARD HAS PROGRESSED TO THE POINT THAT OKIE HAD HOPED IT WOULD. WITHOUT A DOUBT THE MOST INFORMED INTEL ACQUIRING PEOPLE ARE ALL ASSEMBLED ON THIS ONE SITE. THIS HAS REALLY TAKEN A BURDEN OFF HIM. HE IS ABLE TO GET SOME SLEEP INSTEAD OF BEING ON THE PHONE ALL NIGHT TO THE M.E. ACQUIRING INFO TO FURNISH YOU. HE SAID THIS SITE HAD FINALLY GROWN UP ENOUGH THAT HIS CONSTANT PRESENCE IS NO LONGER REQUIRED. HE SAID HE WOULD ONLY POST OCCASIONALLY FROM NOW ON. BUT---HE WILL BE HERE AFTER THE R/V FOR THE PURPOSE OF HELPING SOME NEWBYS NAVIGATE THE PROCESS THEY WILL FACE AFTER THE R/V--HE SAID TO TELL EVERYONE HE LOVED THEM AND HOPED GOD WOULD BLESS YOU ALL BEYOND MEASURE.-----

OKIE AND MYSELF WILL BE LOCATED IN ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACES ON EARTH---BUT ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS PLACES TO POSSIBLY BE----PRAY FOR US BOTH PLEASE


Guru Poppy3:
   I am so pumped after the calls I got today all three within 45 min of each other and all had the same details from all different sources and said be ready between sunday and monday night to hear the rv and should be cashing in on tuesday the 1st of nov. awesome people honest and very sincere about the investment.  I belive it completely these guys don't play. one group information direct from bagdad, the other direct fro isreal, the other from a member of the federal reserve.


DV Member 'Dinar Buddy':  The gurus are stating Dealers are going to be required to stop selling and be on alert this coming week. TOTAL LIE!!
The dealers are not in contact with any federal alerts or communications. The government agencies only track purchases of any currency in large quantities. I have the cell phone of two local dealers, and chatted with both of them an hour ago. Both have plenty of dinar and are never restricted to sell. The only time they are not able to sell if they are out of Dinar from their local wholesalers.

The next we will hear the government is blocking out all dinar sites. This was tried in march and was deemed a joke by all.
The games the gurus do to create sales of the Dinar...

** I am not a pumper so don't ask me for the dealer contacts. You most likely are over spent to this point any way...
Go RV
by Ssmith
on Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:27 pm
 
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Frank - Highlights From Monday Night KTFA CC 10-24-16 with play back link

KTFA Conference Call  MONDAY, OCTOBER 24, 2016

FrostyTheSnowman:  Here’s tonight’s HIGHLIGHTS ...

*** The comments made by Frank26, Delta and others are their sole OPINIONS and cannot and should not be used as any form of financial, tax, banking or investment advice!  We offer NO DATE, NO RATE on this forum!!! ***
 
Tonight’s call began by playing three Christmas Carols:
 
#1 – “White Christmas”
 
#2 - “It’s Beginning to Look a lot like Christmas”
 
#3 – “Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire”
 
Frank26:  What is the CBI doing?  Can you keep a secret?  It seems to me, that those inside of the CBI are keeping good secrets – (the best that they can).
....



There are things occurring behind the scenes with the Monetary Reform.  There is movement of “stuff” that Iraqi citizens need … hammers, computer, rice & beans.
 
IMO … countries are interested in doing business with Iraq … and Iraq is paying them … maybe the IMF is paying them … the international world is doing business with Iraq … and they are paying for their goods.  WHOA!  Do you understand that?  Are you with me?  Are you listening?  IMO -- if that is true … if the international world is gaining confidence with Iraq and the new ministers working with Abadi.  Do you think the WTO and World Bank is watching?  Are they impressed?  Can they pay their own bills? Humm.
 
A week ago, Sunday at 3:03 am Iraqi time … there was the “start” of the operations of Mosul … but I would say it was also the start of international business because they were put on a WHITE LIST.
 
I believe that this TRANSITIONAL RATE that is being used … (not in front of our eyes, nor the CBI … because by law, they would have to tell you they are) … is being used … to bring in these goods.
 
Remember … within 10 business … (normally 30) … there would be some needed info passed to the IMF or in increase in the rate to qualify with what they are doing within their budget.
 
May I suggest … there may be a SWAP … not of currency … but of an EXCHANGE RATE … within the SwiftNet system.
 
IMO -- the SwiftNet is a using a derivative … (we think) … within the next 10 days … to do a CURRENCY SWAP with the rate of the IQD against … (possibly) a basket of currencies.
 
And that’s the end of our conference call … thank you very much for coming … because that in itself would be more than enough to share with you. (just kidding)
 
Please take these “suggestions” to God in prayer.
 
Watch them.
 
Watch them possibly become real.
 
The citizens needed to trust the banks … but the international banks need to trust Iraq and their government. 
 
From black, to gray, to white … (the list) … it means they are UNRESTRICTED!!!  We told you this!  This is the freedom of movement and possibly within their capital … all IMF requirements.
 
    The Credit Rating
    Security of Corruption
    Money Laundering
    Financial Terrorists
    Legalities, Laws, ICC
    Banking Structures & Standards
 
These are NOT just movements so they can just play Tittle-De-Winks!
 
This is the Monetary Reform begin born in front of your eyes!
 
I believe that a countdown with the IMF started around that time.
 
We (non-Iraqi citizens) will probably never see a 1 to 1 rate … because a Transitional Rate (TR) may take it well past it!!!
 
The CBI and our CC Notes … are finding commonality.
 
Please remember … the CBI … does NOT have to tell you anything.  They do NOT owe you an explanation whatsoever.  It should be so.
 
Delta sends his regards and love.  He sends his patience.  He studies the CBI website for us … reads every article … interrupts them.  He pays attention to the spreadsheet … shows key numbers … projected rates … but some fields are blank.  Projected rates show 14 to 15 cents … but the 2016 is blank.  Now, some are no longer variables … they are now derivatives.  So many things … and all before November.
 
We believe the Abadi and Saleh are sending confirmations/documentations to the IMF within the 10 days that we talked about --- which are coming to a close … all BEFORE November.  IMO --- all an indication of their financial reform.

IMO -- each member of the IMF needs verification … before any change in rate … to be completed before November.

IMO – that includes a rate change … that deals with contract goods.

The letter to the IMF lets each member within the IMF knows of the rate.  The IMF cannot finalize the agreement with Iraq until they see documentation.

I told you, I don’t think we’ll ever see 1 to 1.  They might surprise us all with the international rate when it does come out.  In the ‘70’s and ‘80’s, it used to be around $2.80.  When Saddam took over, it was over $3 … and the Gulf Currency is launching around $2.60 to $2.70 … which is a fair number to start at.

We believe that the IMF may meet on the 7th of November to see if Iraq completed all they needed to do … but IMO … meetings are ongoing now.   The CBI will not be involved in any of this because they can keep a secret.

Please understand derivatives I’m not going to be your math teacher.  IMO -- variables that are now derivatives.

Mosul is still with/without the liberation … but the IMF does not care about Mosul. 

The IMF is in business to make money with Iraq.  There is no profit at a program rate.
 
The IMF does not care about 2017. 

IMO – the MR consists of the RI … and that is for the IMF.

The international world which consists of the Economic Reforms … which is the RV --- (which is not a part of the IMF).

I believe that the RI is for the IMF which is part of the MR. 

The RV is for the international investors.

This will be the FINAL letter to the IMF within these 10 days. 

It will give the IMF a good idea of when Iraq will raise the value of their currency.

Give us Fallujah … and you have the ECONOMIC REFORMS.

Give us Mosul … and you have the MONETARY REFORMS.

IMO -- I believe that we are within 1 to 2 clicks outside of Mosul. 

Therefore, we are very close to the center. 

Right now it is the Kurds Army that surrounds Mosul … that is exactly the way it should be.

The most important thing about Mosul right now is … the “CENTER.”

The CENTER … if all of Iraq was like a bulls-eye … I believe that the center of Mosul is the bulls-eye itself.

The bulls-eye of Mosul … contains the MR and the ER.  (Monetary Reform and the Economic Reform).

Do you remember that the CBI website told ALL of the banks in Iraq to prepare themselves – to stop using the USD in the first part of next year (2017) … remember that?
 
The CBI doesn’t talk that often … but when they do … especially now … they are passing along some amazing information … IMO.

The Rasheed Bank stated last week that they are adopting a new system to transfer money inside and outside of Iraq. 

Well … a country that is slapped with charters that restricts them … does not have the privileged to send their worthless money into an international environment – that’s why they are in sanctions. 

Chapter VII … has been a slow evolution.

Now the Rasheed says they are going to adopt a new system. 

Do you know what that system is? 

It’s called the IBAN (IBN) International Banking Network … which are codes … that you can’t read … codes that are necessary for Iraq’s currency to go into the international theatre. 

These are codes/routing numbers … will be used by Iraqi banks … works hand in hand with the SwiftNet system. 

Do you think Iraq qualifies for something this? 

Well, behind closed doors … I guess they do.  

They haven’t done it yet, but they have been telling the citizens this in the news. 
   
The Transitional Rate is bringing in the number … the variables … the derivatives … of their budget … IMO.

Iraq asked for the budget, didn’t they?

Topics tagged under 8 on Dinar Daily Pic3-budget_orig
Mosul is about 80-90% done.
 
There is NO STOPPING the Monetary Reform.  

The timing may frustrate you, but I think the timing is brilliant.

I believe that you know that the IMF is going to give them the 2nd loan … and IMO … there is something that is coming with it.   And all before November, huh?

I believe that the evidence of this documentation, along with the derivatives … along with the currency swap … along with the SDR … have all been delivered … and all on time.

IMO – they are doing everything on time.

IMO – the IMF has received the letters from Iraq, and now the IMF knows what Iraq is going to do with their Transitional Rate.  I believe we will need this final week to be introduced to Mosul. 

The CENTER of Mosul … to me … is like the bulls-eye target!

In effect … pushing the terrorists into the center.

The Citizens have been an amazing help … flags on homes … flyers … scared ISIS.

ISIS is killing their own commanders … and these “squeeze plays” were used on them in the center of Mosul. 

Yesterday the Iraq leaders didn’t even talk about Mosul … but today, they did. 

We believe that this “pattern” … which will back-up what I’m trying to tell you about the center of Mosul.

IMO … the CENTER of MOSUL is the MONETARY REFORM!

ALL OF THESE ARE FROM ARTICLES …

#1 – “Intense artillery bombardment on DAASH sites … near the CENTER of Mosul.”

#2 – “Within 1 week … troops captured 74 towns … restored to the CENTER of Mosul.”

#3 – “It’s time for the Iraqi Army to proceed with the 2nd phase … advance to the CENTER of the city.”

#4 – “Peshmerga fulfilled their duties … declared victory on the outskirts.”

#5 – “Abadi … only Iraqi Army will be allowed to step into the CENTRAL part of Mosul.”

#6 – “Counterterrorism entered the village … within 15km of the CENTER of Mosul.”

All of these articles from TODAY … is not a coincidence family.  It’s a pattern.

#7 – “Coinciding the victories of the CENTRAL area of Mosul.”  -- (this is the article that was running around the Internet).

#8 – “… Chairman announced an ENCIRCLEMENT of Mosul.”

#9 – “… advance to the city CENTER.”

#10 – “the intelligent grounds on the bridges and streets are saying the organization withdrew … approached the liberation of the CENTER of the city of Mosul.”

Who talks like this?  Your conference calls.

It’s important that we (USA) doesn’t go in there (Mosul).
 
The Peshmerga gets the credit.   (Arab victory)

With ISIS killing itself … this last week of October … is going to be very interesting.

IMO – planting the Iraqi flag in the CENTER of Mosul … would coincide with the monetary reform.

Meanwhile, parliament finance says they have read the budget.

Do they have to read it a 2nd and 3rd time?  See what happens next week.

Oil prices have paused temporarily in lieu of the budget.

Elder88 made a post #157 … he said “WOW!  I just wanted to relay it this way … this is what we have already been hearing from F26, but in less words.”

What is he talking about?  The article that came out … a lot of us were shocked … but the words were just what we wanted to hear.

May I suggest that we have been expecting this, haven’t we family?

Delta … I called him … told him about the article … and WS and I saw it late last night … but WS said “no.”

We had Delta investigate it … Delta found it in Arabic … and said it’s was a legit source.  It was actually from a newspaper that a lot of journalists that live outside of Iraq send their articles too.  They don’t really live inside of Iraq.  They live in the US and throughout Europe.  The site itself is legit according to Delta. 

The article had been put together … kinda like Frankenstein (one piece at a time) … but it contains 2 separate things – that were not Frankenstein.  If you go back to 2003, you will see some of the words that were used in articles – you know, like they were getting ready to raise the value of the IQD. 

#1 – the articles is saying there is an independent source in the CBI that is telling them this.  (info leaked).  Can you keep a secret family?  Sometimes it’s hard.  Perhaps the CBI talked to this journalist .  The article also talked about Chapter VII.  We continued to study it.  It basically what Dr. Shabibi said before he was kicked out by Maliki and Obama.  Just because it has parts from 2003, does NOT make it any less viable.

The RECENT LIFTING?  (That’s what the IMF wanted them to do with the auctions, etc.)

WS and I didn’t want to put this article out because it was being abused by other guru’s.  We wanted to study it further … and it was treated well on our forum in thought/opinions.

This article cannot be dismissed.

Caution upon caution … I pray that you are now satisfied with it.

We will probably not see any more information presented next week … only meetings to sign-off the monetary reform.

Thank you kindly for allowing me to share our studies with you.

Let’s see if they give you Mosul within the next 7 days.

Let’s see what the elections hold on November the 8th. 

There is a pattern.

CC ended with prayer.

PLAYBACK LINK:  https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback_rudd/?n=OTQCw/uwgOv
by Ponee
on Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:35 pm
 
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Frank26 says there should be a change currency THIS YEAR

 Frank26  


[size=18]ARTICLE: “The catastrophic corruption between banks and companies in the sale of the American Dollar is coming to an end.” 

NINE EXAMPLES that CORRUPTION in IRAQ is being killed
:

#1 -- The policing of the United Nation groups, new laws, new banking systems being implemented.
#2 -- The currency auctions are being monitored. That was the hole in the bottom of the ship.
#3 – No more false names / dead people / false companies, etc.
#4 The USD needs to stop being used (MCP) – which has been used at the borders
#5 – No more false bills / PO’s.
#6 – No false accounts...
#7 – No more diffusion of payments to false areas (building fake parks, etc).
#8The antiquated banking systems had to stop
#9 – No more false passports to transport IQD out of country.

[/size]
  Bagdad, Basrah, Mosul, Erbil, Sulaimaniyah...These 5 cities are where the five Central Banks of Iraq are.  We have 4 out of 5...secured...all that is missing is Mosul.  In other words...the catastrophic corruption (think GOI/CBI) between banks (think Auctions) and companies in the sale of the American Dollar is coming to an end.”  So, they are following the IMF’s instructions...inventorying their product (currency).

  IMO … I believe we are going to see a budget...by the 3rd week of this month...and see a change in their monetary policy and a change in their currency...THIS YEAR! I’m not giving you a date...but before the end of this year...we are going to see a change.

~~~~~~~~~~~

BONDS...in my opinion, it does appear that the USA will not back up the BONDS that the GOI wants to sell. Remember, back in December, the IMF told the GOI that they were going to help them – if they raised the value of their currency.  Well, here we are...upon the prepuces of the monetary reform...and Abadi saying they have done everything...well...IF... you have done everything...they get LOANS don’t they?

 I have not seen the CBI website show me a new rate for the IQD.  They have not changed it officially.  DO THEY WANT THE LOANS...the 640 Million Dollar Loan.

 They will get that WHEN they raise the value of their currency...and if they don’t...they won’t get the BONDS.  This is not bad news.

 This is fantastic news!

10.05.2016
by Ponee
on Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:42 am
 
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Topic: Frank26 says there should be a change currency THIS YEAR
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10/5/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

[b]Guru Jonnywg:  [/b] at 6 am i will be able to confirm that a big 4 bank has the swift codes active necessary to cash in.........this is the next step........ it then goes to forex/cbi and we have rv

 6am est ....LIVE FROM McDONALDS.........LOL  FYI:....THE VERIFICATION OF THE ACTIVE SWIFT CODES MEANS THAT A TRI-LATERAL AGREEMENT HAS BEEN REACHED BETWEEN.....USA/IRAQ/IMF this opens a 72 hour window to activate the rv......... apparently this activation started tuesday with little fanfare.....my thoughts are a possible rv soon SEE YoU AT 6AM *************


Guru Adam Montana:
  The HCL (Hydro Carbon Law) is centered around the Kurdish people, their territory, and the rights to the oil, it accounts for a LOT of the resources, and they are fighting for power over it,  power = money.  they are blocking things because they don't want to lose that wealth.  We need to see the HCL resolved or Chapter 7 released before the "trigger" is pulled.  they are making progress, though - I don't see it lasting too much longer.

I don't tie this [an order for fighter jets] specifically to the RV, or even Chapter 7, but we know they would not waste money on something they could never use! The fact that they are investing in their own defenses tells us that they are also confident that they will not be under Chapter 7 sanctions forever.  Erbil is still exactly where it was 10 days ago. We have agreements in place, everyone seems to be on board, but it is not "done", soon, though!

I think inflation is our FRIEND right now!   if inflation is allowed to get out of control, then the value of the Dinar will also get out of control,  the only way to raise the value is to completely control it so with inflation threatening, I think they have more reason than ever to act quickly this is one of the main reasons I believe we should see the value raise soon, as in pre-Thanksgiving .


Guru Bear5642:   OK I KNOW LAST NIGHT WAS A SUPRISE AND YOU WILL JUST WAIT AND WE WILL SEE WHO HAS SOLID INTL. IM NOT TALKING ABOUT SMOKE EITHER. TRHE DOCUMENT IM WAITING ON COULD NOT BE READ BECAUSE OF ITS ORIGIN AND I AHVE SOEM PEOPLE WROKING ON IT AS I TYPE. I WILL SAY IT IS EXTREMELY CONFIDENTIAL AND I SHOULD KNOW IN ABOUT 3O MINUTES.

THE DOCUMENT IM WAITING ON COULD NOT BE READ BECAUSE OF ITS ORIGIN AND I HAVE SOME PEOPLE WORKING ON IT.   IT IS EXTREMELY CONFIDENTIAL.  MY SOURCES HAVE TOLD ME SPECIIFIC THINGS I MUST NOT SHARE OR THEY WILL NEVER SPEAK TO ME AGAIN.  THE DOCUMENTS HAS SOME INSTRUCTIONS.  IN PLAIN ENGLISH OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING TOMORROW AND IM SAYING WE WILL SEE.  START COUNTING 3O DAYS FROM THIS FRIDAY.   [question - Are you saying we will not RV til November?]  YES.   


Guru ScottiG:   It has been a real long difficult day. I know Senator Bear is going to share some things with you in a while. I am going to say something you need to listen to very closely. I will be putting a comprehensive post together tomorrow. Bear and I are compiling the incredible information which we are being blessed with. I need time to mull over this information that is truly off the charts. I do mean that with all sincerity. No tease here just the truth. You all know I have shot very straight with you. You know that I do not put fluff or make ignorant predictions. I have thought a couple of times we were on the verge of an RV and ----WE WERE---- ! There are many things at play right now. I can say no more than that right now about the info.

Now let me address something that needs to be said and HEARD ! I do not care what any one else at any other site says about Senator Bear. I have heard a fair amount of bashing from some very uninformed individuals at a couple of sites. I assure you they do not have the information nor the contacts that we have... Hey they aren't telling us day after day it is going to RV tomorrow at ????? I hope each of you will give honor and respect to this man who is walking with integrity and honor just as I endeavor to do. We are here to help Okie and the family of OOM. If you think we owe you information or explanations ..... we don't! If you think this then go to a pay site where they will give you info out the wazoo! I didn't say it was good info but there you go! SO PLEASE SHOW RESPECT TO THE MODS AND EXPECIALLY TO BEAR!

As honestly as I can say...It truly could be tomorrow but our very connected sources are not looking for it in the next few days. When I said there are things going on behind the scenes in Iraq...They really are. These things need to be resolved. Could they RV right now...Absolutely,  Will they???????? probably not this week now!  I am only sure that the end is in sight!



Guru TNT Tony:   I have a copy of the payout instructions to the BANK, This proves they are getting ready – they have certain forms for foreign currency which are being sent out TOMORROW to all the banks. We are closer than you know...and its not going to be weeks.  the financial part here in the US are all set and ready to go and we are just not hearing it and we are waiting for that piece of the puzzle

Telebani said nothing about 30 days to do with the RV – GOV decisions about GOV things were in 30 days NOT THE RV… just only GOV decisions and he said all look positive about ERBIL to be implemented NOT days ABOUT THE RV so put out there what Telabani said – that was NOT ABOUT THE RV – the 30 says was about decisions, power and new laws in Iraq…Telabani ‘s speech is out there so folks to read but he never once mentioned 30 days…we start talking and getting mis info out there....he said Gov decisions and these meetings will be put off ....didn’t say the rv or anything else...don’t misconstrue what Okie and Bear said says TONY


Guru Checkmate Dan:    What I hear is lots of good things going on and M A and T B are after each other – the is a threat of a shift of power and its urgent- not sure if its close or done is my perspective…he feels that we are here but how much more can we say we are “there” – we know it will happen… this is a pressure now with the higher powers to get this done not in the next couple of days is my opinion…

if Maliki stalls the vote of "no confidence" till next week then we can only guess what kind of timeline we have, but people need to not say dates on any site anymore…

DAN states this stuff coming in the banks is real stuff…As he said Monday that banks have to be prepared for this as its an big wealth shift – there have been multiple codes Swift codes changed – but what do you believe – some are misinformation butI am tire of hearing tomorrow and two days for now then hopes get dropped – but things are very close and very encouraging its coming … we know better that the Erbil is not in print where it matters and the HCL laws are not completed and they are working on that – the legal issues  on parts of it are not done so saying it is done is NOT RIGHT.  The Gazette will be the absolute.  Malili owns 70% of the news media and its made to make him look good so there is my suspicion on most of the news… these good people we have from our sources say this Erbil and HCL will not be dine til its approved ..this is where we sit states Dan

DAN states I do not know Bear but I like Okie nothing to do with if I like them or not. 30 day statement is as stupid as them saying by Friday….but I do not  like what intel they say about saying a date – but he M was given a timeline of M getting this done or what will happen to him is in the news… the man was told, do this by X day or X will happen to you, and they all jockey for position. if M gets replaced, A will sit down and do it quick


Guru 8Ball:   Camp Prosperity is hosting the Talibani meeting,  Sadam's old palace, not sure how fast things will roll out.  But I'm sure that if they have an agreement with the US that the US forces are leaving in December Iraq will have to complete everything that is agreed to.  there was an article stating that the RV is between now and January, hopefully with more emphasis on NOW.


Guru Studley:   THEY WILL NOT LET US KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THIS RVS... NO MATTER WHAT INFO AND FROM WHAT SOURCES WE HAVE, THEY CAN'T, LOTS OF RISKS INVOLVED.   THIS RV IS THE LONGEST, AND MOST COMPLICATED BECAUSE IT INVOLVES SO MANY ISSUES AND PROBLEMS, THIS TRULY IS LIKE WATCHING HISTORY BEING MADE... THAT'S WHY IT IS HARD TO COMPARE IT TO ANY OTHER RV

 I AM NOT A DATE GUY...BUT BASED ON THE CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS, I BELIEVE TIME IS RUNNING OUT FOR SHABS TO RELEASE THIS.   BASED ON CRUNCHING THE NUMBERS...YES A HIGH RATE IS POSSIBLE, BUT IMO NOT PROBABLE, IRAQ HAS LEARNED FROM THE PAST MISTAKES OF OTHER RVS, AND SHABS WILL MOST LIKELY KEEP THE RATE VERY STABLE POST RV AROUND THE HIGH THREES TO LOW FOURS.  I DO BELIEVE WE R IN AN EXCELLENT WINDOW BASED ON INFO RECEIVED.


Guru BGG:   the real and important meetings were going on today - NOT yesterday.  Talibani didn't have the press conference and didn't have anything meaningful to say yesterday evening...I told you this was the case... because the real juice happens today.  The NCSP measure is in parliament and being discussed ahead of the next meeting of the leaders today -  if they vote this in without any Maliki involvement - that is very bad for him and very good for us??  What this means is, the Erbil agreement is being implemented - like it or not...Once this happens and Allawi is the NCSP chairman (which seems inevitable), Maliki will have been effectively neutralized...as far as the CBI is concerned.


Guru Freeway Bill:   You have to figure that we are right on the brink because there are so many things being said leadin our attention away from the rv.  The coverage if the meeting is distorted trying to make us believe that nothing really happened today that did any good. Not true.  In a discussion today I come to realize that Shabibi really has the full control of when this RV will go but he is trying to time it so that they can move forward immediately after with nothing manor left to argue about.  He may not control the GOI but he dies control the money.  I believe it will happen and I don't see it going any longer than Ir has romy opinion is that this RV is going to pop any day with or without Maliki behaving.


Guru Mailman17:   I THINK A LOT OF STUFF IS GONNA COME DOWN...OVER THE NEXT WEEK...MAYBE NOT THE RV..YET...BUT EVERYTHING PERTINANT TO ITS RELEASE...SHABS IS NOT GONNA PLAY GAMES ANYMORE..IMO.  HE HAS WARNED THEM AND HAS BEEN AS PROFESSIONAL AS HE COULD.  ITS SHABS TURN TO FINALLY PULL THAT TRIGGER HE HAS WANTED TO DO FOR SO LONG. 


Guru Kaperoni:   it is of my opinion that this is a critical time.  I am not optimistic that Maliki will agree to the power sharing he promised with the Strategic Council of Policies position for Allawi.  That being said, I don’t think they will let him hold the world, in essence, “hostage” but holding up the RV.  the CBI is ready, or near ready, to offer up a rate to the Iraqi people making their dinar international. This rate may very well be less than expected due to these continuing political issues.  The issues with the GOI may have to take a backseat and be resolved at a later point. If I am wrong, we will continue to wait until there is a resolution with the GOI.

article quote... "a promising future is waiting for the new Iraqi dinar, which would be the strongest currency in the Middle East, especially that Iraq held in the next few years, balancing the fictional depends on oil refrigerators up to 6 million barrels a day." This tells me that anyone who thinks the dinar is coming out at 4 to 1 is smoking something.   they state, “over the next few years” here.   “The Central Bank of Iraq was declared on 23 June on willingness to delete the zeros of Iraqi currency”  This is the official day that the Cbi was ready to proceed. The Rv could happen at any point thereafter.  if they don’t take action, inflation will continue to rise...the timeline on our side. With 7.61% from Aug, we know it is higher today....they cannot wait.


Guru Frank26:   Shabibi has been given the rate and no-one can stop it...they will pass this Erbil agreement…they have to do this fighting and fussing,  but in the end they will make an agreement.

Frank is speaking of monies being stolen from the CBI.. I didn’t get all the info. He is thanking everyone who is on the call and saying good night. He is now singing….. and praying


Guru BullDog75: 4. Isolate sensitive computer files from snoops. As we use our computers more and more to keep sensitive records and correspondence, it becomes more important to protect them from snoops. The #1 threat to your sensitive files is your modem, fax, or DSL Internet connection – anything that electronically connects your computer to the outside world. Thanks to cookies, e-mail wiretaps, and other techniques, when you're browsing the web or reading your e-mail, snoops at the other end can download files from your computer hard drive. The only sure way to protect yourself is by keeping all sensitive information on a different computer (or at least a different hard drive with its own, separate operating system) than the computer you use for web browsing. In other words, you use Computer #1 to browse the web and send e-mail; and you use Computer #2 for word processing, accounting, and storing important information. Computer #1 has no important files or sensitive information. Computer #2 has no electronic connection to the outside world. To minimize expenses, your two computers can share the same keyboard and monitor, by the addition of a network hub (about $100).

5. Keep your web browsing and e-mail private. Whenever you contact a company or organization on the Internet, the computer at the other end will often insert a "cookie" into your computer – enabling merchants and government agencies to keep track of your web browsing. The information that can be collected about you in this way is absolutely mind-boggling and includes your name, address, phone number, detailed information on the type of computer you are using, your Social Security number, credit-card numbers, a list of your friends and business contacts, and much more. To keep your web browsing private, use an anonymous connection service, such as Anonymizer (http://www.anonymizer.com). Another alternative is Hushmail, based in Anguilla, which offers a free e-mail service that allows you to encrypt e-mail using ultra-powerful 1024-bit encryption. For further protection, encrypt your e-mail, using high-level, 1024-bit encryption software, such as Pretty Good Privacy (PGP). http:// www.pgp.com Zero Knowledge Systems (ZKS) offers software called "Freedom" which also uses 1024-bit encryption and which: Allows you to use multi-pseudonyms that can't be traced to your real name Prevents the receipt of Internet cookies Provides multi-layers of encryption

#6 (TWO PARTS) 6. KEEP YOUR HOME ADDRESS & PHONE # PRIVATE!!! This is the single MOST IMPORTANT step you can take to protect your privacy. Government snoops can't nose around your home, bug your computer, or listen in on your calls, if they don't know where you live or what your phone number is. To keep your home address private, rent or buy your home in the name of an out-of-state corporation (Delaware and Nevada corporations are best). Also put your utilities in the name of the corporation, as well as your phone, and magazine and newspaper subscriptions. This is precisely what TV personalities, professional athletes, and film stars do to protect their privacy. And it's not expensive. A Delaware corporation can be set up for as little as $150 and maintained for $50 a year!

#6 (CONT'D) Receive all mail personally addressed to you at a nearby mail drop, such as Mail Boxes, Etc. (about $15 a month), or an Executive Office Service ($50 to $150 a month), or at the address of a friend who owns a nearby business (free). Then use this address for your driver's license and car registration. Naturally, your car will also be registered in the name of your corporation. Properly set up, a Delaware or Nevada corporation can also dramatically lower your taxes, if you're an independent contractor. (Please consult your attorney.) For a private home phone, use a company name when setting up a new phone account, rather than your own, and make sure and get caller ID, complete blocking. To add a further level of phone privacy, purchase a prepaid cell phone – such as those offered by Trac Fone through Blockbuster, WalMart, and Staples. No name, address, credit check, etc. is required to set up an account, and you can buy phone cards for cash to add more time.

#7 (TWO PARTS) A. 7. Keep your medical records more private. Information in your medical files can be used to deny you insurance, jobs, and legal benefits. It could be even used by a government just slightly more authoritarian than the one we now have, to take away your children or commit you to a mental hospital. Unfortunately, each time you see a doctor or check into a hospital or clinic, they will usually demand your Social Security Number, which in turn will be used to file and locate your medical records. You can protect yourself from unwanted snooping by getting an alternative Medical photo ID from ID Network (IDN). No SSN is required, and medical records are kept in your own handwriting. $9.95. Call 1-888-329-3686 or 314-416-7411, http://www.idnetwork.com.

#7 (CONT'D) PART B: The Crucial Importance Of Privacy Philosopher-novelist Ayn Rand once commented that the development of civilization and freedom are inseparable from the increase in personal privacy. In a primitive society there is no privacy or freedom. The tribe knows all and controls everything you do. But in the civilized society, we each have a crucial zone of privacy shielding us from outside snooping and control. Privacy is about keeping more of what you earn – protecting the sensitive information in your computer - avoiding being hassled by the IRS or police – protecting your children – and minimizing your chances of a 2 am visit by a machine-gun-toting SWAT team. The battle for your privacy is the battle for your freedom. Ultimately it is a battle we will win. Twenty years from now we'll look back at intrusive Big Brother government the same way we now look at dinosaurs: Huge and ferocious, but dead. Peace & Blessings, RED LILY THANK YOU RED LILY FOR THAT FABULOUS POST AND SUCH DETAILS. YOU ARE BLESSED. AMEN.

#8. CASHIN FOR THIS WEEKEND: IMHO, these are suggestions to consider; you decide what to do. The wolves inside and outside the bank can be few ... to many. Your Life and Your Life Savings may be at RISK.
short bullet point suggestions to consider and filter thru: 1. do not park in the bank lot. why show your car tags to others that will jot them down and trace u? A camera can take a photo of you and your tags for blocks away.
 2. go with someone to the bank; spouse, best friend who is a fellow dinarian if u choose. caps and glasses are nice.

 3. if u park far away ; maybe take a taxi from another parking lot a mile or two away. 4. make an apptment if u have a large investment to cash 5. not all at one time cash in everything unless u really know what one is doing here.  6. know your rate before you go 7. have a predetermined game plan
8. watch your body language and the banker/tellers as well; everyone is watching whether you want to believe it or not cause the next few days of next Tues and WEd and thursday, well....who is going to be at the banks? 9. there is NO rush to cash in; supposedly 45 days to have the possible 15% tax advantage with no audits (this is still a rumor; will be confirmed sooner or later next week).

10. if your deposit is in an acct "no interest bearing savings acct" there 'maybe' an opportunity to have the bank cover the total amount deposited which surpasses the FDIC $250,000. check that one out please, imo.  11. SMITH BARNEY and others re insure your accounts somewhere in the $600,000 range per account. seek legal advice and the broker / company policies.

12. NEVER EVER use your home address anymore for anything including UPS AND FED EX. THEY TRACK YOU. THEY KNOW WHO LIVES IN YOUR HOUSE.  13. AFTER MAKING YOUR INITIAL DEPOSIT; TRANSFER IT TO ANOTHER INTEREST FREE CHECKING ACCT WITHIN THE WEEK; SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. (AGAIN, PLEASE FILTER ALL THIS DATA. YOU DECIDE WHICH WORKS FOR U).

14. HAVE YOUR BANK MAILING ADDRESS POSSIBLY TO A PO BOX; BUT A SEPARATE PHYSICAL ADDRESS IS ASKED FOR BY THE BANK; SO LIST A UPS POSTAL DROP ADDRESS WHICH IS NOT, I REPEAT NOT A PObOX.


PTR Member Bank Story:  Hi everyone Yes i am back, Had nothing to report till now .

1: POP is at the TD Bank at the end of August Bank President come up to pop and says RV in September and walks a way

2: Today October 4 2011 3 Bank Managers call pop and ask him where they can buy the IQD NOW and with that leave their cell # with him and said Please call us if you find out anything at all .

Now some of you do not know me so do, this is for those who do For those who do not search my post from the past see that i tell the truth.
by Ssmith
on Wed Oct 05, 2016 11:12 am
 
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Boo Hoo, Cry Me A River! by One Who Believes


#1) We have the biggest most unprecedented change about to happen that the World has ever seen. The magnitude of this event can hardly be described much less experienced.What change? Define your terms in a concrete, measurable, definable and most importantly verifiable manner or it's nothing more than blah, blah, blah.

#2) It takes the Co-operation of 209 nations all of which have to not only agree on a common goal, but implement this HUGE undertaking in a unified effort, despite language, cultural, and philosophical differences, not to mention geographic divides.Sam already did a good job on this one, so refer to his post above.

#3) This HUGE Worldwide event has to be flawlessly implemented down to the last detail, without waking and disturbing the World population (General Public) and causing panic and unrest.Again, what huge global event? Have you been taking lessons from Gobbels? “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” In this case, the state would be the Gurus and their moderators who attack and/or ban anyone who dares to question their pronouncements from on high.

#4) This HUGE World-Wide change has to be undertaken not only quietly as not to disturb the unaware World public, but it has to be carried out in total secrecy to avoid complete financial catastrophe if the General Public prematurely found out about the GCR before it was done.

#5) This HUGE World-Wide event has to not only happen in secret, but it also has a delicate balance to maintain in Dinarland between what is disclosed and what is kept secret.

These two are just a rehash of number 3, so see my comments there.

-snipped for brevity-

#6) So, the final and some might say biggest hurdle, is protecting the sleeping public from the Desperate CABAL who want to not only hold on to their power, but they also want to kill off 70% of the World and will do anything to accomplish it.

There is no Cabal, white hats, black hats, Chinese Elders, Galactics, or any of those other horse poopoo terms. Show me one fact that says otherwise. Fact, that means it has to be provable, verifiable and documented.

#7) Then take all these important factors and mix them all together with the ever shifting circumstances. What is absolutely accurate Intel one minute is outdated a minute later with the blowing up of a bomb, someone getting killed or some other party reneging on agreements they signed. It is the most fluid event ever experienced on Earth. Since all the above is fiction and not fact, your statement is invalid.

#8) Then throw into the mix the Disinformation from the bad guys to dishearten the World, and the Disinformation from the Good Guys to catch the Bad guys, and who knows what is what after all that. The only disinformation is coming from the likes of you. No? The prove me wrong, provide solid, verifiable, documented facts to back up your assertions. Otherwise, you are nothing more than a liar.
by Kevind53
on Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:58 pm
 
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Topic: Boo Hoo, Cry Me A River! by One Who Believes
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Boo Hoo, Cry Me A River! by One Who Believes


 

Boo Hoo, Cry Me A River!

September 22, 2016

I heard that someone was throwing Bruce under the Bus because the Intel hasn't proven out yet. Boo Hoo, Cry Me A River. I would laugh, except that I want to show compassion for the poor soul who is so desperate that they would lash out like that.

This message is not for them as they are not in a position to receive it. I am not going to call anyone names either, because they are just like a wounded animal lashing out in sheer desperation and are unable to think clearly.

Instead, let us, the level headed people, use this as a Dinarland case study. For the rest of us, the picture is clear.

Shall we begin?
 Topics tagged under 8 on Dinar Daily Blog-cryin_orig
#1) We have the biggest most unprecedented change about to happen that the World has ever seen. The magnitude of this event can hardly be described much less experienced.

#2) It takes the Co-operation of 209 nations all of which have to not only agree on a common goal, but implement this HUGE undertaking in a unified effort, despite language, cultural, and philosophical differences, not to mention geographic divides.

#3) This HUGE Worldwide event has to be flawlessly implemented down to the last detail, without waking and disturbing the World population (General Public) and causing panic and unrest.

#4) This HUGE World-Wide change has to be undertaken not only quietly as not to disturb the unaware World public, but it has to be carried out in total secrecy to avoid complete financial catastrophe if the General Public prematurely found out about the GCR before it was done.

#5) This HUGE World-Wide event has to not only happen in secret, but it also has a delicate balance to maintain in Dinarland between what is disclosed and what is kept secret.

Then you have the millions of pesky Dinarland detectives, calling top sources, banks, watching the airports, monitoring the foreign press and countless other ways they are seeking and finding out information they shouldn't have (yet). Not only do they find out stuff that is supposed to be secret, but, then they blab it all over the net and to others who aren't supposed to know.

Is this picture getting clearer?

You not only have the biggest event in Human history, which requires the absolute cooperation of 209 nations, without disturbing the sleeping general public, while keeping this once in the History of the Earth event secret from the rest of Humanity, while trying their best to keep the Dinarland Detectives from exposing sensitive information, BUT, on top of all this, they have to fight the worst Satan worshiping evil the World has ever seen, who would kill anyone who got in their way.

#6) So, the final and some might say biggest hurdle, is protecting the sleeping public from the Desperate CABAL who want to not only hold on to their power, but they also want to kill off 70% of the World and will do anything to accomplish it.

#7) Then take all these important factors and mix them all together with the ever shifting circumstances. What is absolutely accurate Intel one minute is outdated a minute later with the blowing up of a bomb, someone getting killed or some other party reneging on agreements they signed. It is the most fluid event ever experienced on Earth.

#8) Then throw into the mix the Disinformation from the bad guys to dishearten the World, and the Disinformation from the Good Guys to catch the Bad guys, and who knows what is what after all that.

Then you have a few Information Providers like Bruce, who do their best to walk that tight Balance between informing Dinarland with what they want to know while at the same time protecting sensitive information from getting out to the Bad guys. God bless them for all they do for us.

Back To The Point

Now someone comes along and cries that the Go Time Intel or other Intel Bruce gave out was wrong? Are you kidding me? This has got to be the most pathetic thing I have ever heard.

Here we have a person, who most likely holds currency that will make them a Millionaire, Billionaire or even a Trillionaire. They are literally holding a golden ticket to the life of their dreams and they are complaining that the Intel is wrong?

I guarantee you that there are literally BILLIONS of other people in the World who would trade places with this person in a heartbeat and would be forever grateful for it, if they only knew about it... But they don't. I doubt they would complain because they would be too grateful to even have this opportunity for themselves and generations of their family.

I would say to this person who so publicly complained: "NO ONE OWES YOU ANYTHING. Be thankful for what you have and the incredibly fortuitous position you are in."

Here is a TIP: "Don't Read What You Don't Like."

The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that it is easy to forget how HUGE this whole thing is. Even I was surprised at the magnitude of this event as I wrote this out. We should remember that there are literally thousands of people who have been working on this change over for thousands of years, and many who have given everything (Died) so that we can be rich, have a dream life, and help World.

I know it is easy to get caught up in the moment over some little bit of Intel, but in the Big picture, it is so unimportant.

We have to understand that we are in a need to know status for our own good and the good of the World. We are lucky that we are here at all and know as much as we do. I know that some people are in desperate situations, but that is no excuse to take aim at people who are giving their time and effort to find out what is going on and letting us know to the best of their ability. It is wrong for us to demand that they have perfect Intel in an imperfect World.

Let's give our love to those who do their best to help us in whatever way they can. No Intel Provider deserves condemnation when they give us their best efforts. Even though the Intel Providers OWE US NOTHING, they still give us their time effort anyway.

Please make some effort to show them your appreciation for all they do. That is the LEAST we can do for them in return for all they have done for us.

To All Intel Providers

Thank You from the bottom of my Heart for all you do. I hope you know for every unhappy soul who complains, there are thousands of others who appreciates you and your efforts.

I am one of those who know how much work it is for you to keep us up to date on a regular basis and I thank you for it. It is my hope that you hear from those others who appreciate you as well.

May You All Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams

Signed: One Who Believes
by Ponee
on Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:58 am
 
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Topic: Boo Hoo, Cry Me A River! by One Who Believes
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New Republic via a GCR: Update for September 10, 2016

I noticed on #8 . That every one that needed to get payed got payed, WELL I NEVER GOT PAYED & that's a fact !! Chalk up another lie.
by Chaz
on Sat Sep 10, 2016 8:16 pm
 
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Topic: New Republic via a GCR: Update for September 10, 2016
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Note from Tom

…And how to stop self limiting beliefs so that you may start experiencing more freedom, happiness, and love.

Based on ancient Toltec wisdom, Don Miguel Ruiz presents the readers with a powerful code of conduct that can rapidly transform lives for the better – The Four Agreements.
With all of the innumerable media influences, peer pressures, and conformity institutions, it’s far too easy to forget who we are, lose touch with your root being, and become a product of the toxic environment from which many of us live.
Ruiz shows us how to take our life back.  
Each agreement focuses on the idea of developing yourself first and training your mind so that you may see the world in new a light and resultantly interact with it in a more optimal, honest, and fulfilling way.
Below is a summery of each of The Four Agreements followed by our Top 10 Quotes list derived from the book.  Take note of any quote that makes you think and leave us some of your thoughts (or favorite quotes from the book) in the comments section below!  Enjoy!
 

The Four Agreements Summary:

Be Impeccable With Your Word – Speak with integrity.  Say only what you mean.  Avoid using the word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others.  Use the power of your word in the direction of truth and love.
Don’t Take Anything Personally – Nothing others do is because of you.  What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream.  When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won’t be the victim of needless suffering.
Don’t Make Assumptions – Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want.  Communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness, and drama.  With just this one agreement, you can completely transform your life.
Always Do Your Best – Your best is going to change from moment to moment; it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick.  Under any circumstance, simply do your best, and you will avoid self-judgement, self-abuse, and regret.
 

 Top 10 Quotes List from The Four Agreements:

#10

“Action is about living fully. Inaction is the way that we deny life. Inaction is sitting in front of the television every day for years because you are afraid to be alive and to take the risk of expressing what you are. Expressing what you are is taking action.”

#9

“Doing your best is taking the action because you love it, not because you’re expecting a reward. Most people do the exact opposite: They only take action when they expect a reward, and they don’t enjoy the action. And that’s the reason why they don’t do their best.”

#8

“If I love myself I will express that love in my interactions with you, and then I am being impeccable with the word, because that action will produce a like reaction. If I love you, then you will love me. If I insult you, you will insult me. If I have gratitude for you, you will have gratitude for me.  If I’m selfish with you, you will be selfish with me.”

#7

“We don’t need to justify love; it is there or not there. Real love is accepting other people the way they are without trying to change them. If we try to change them, this means we don’t really like them.”

#6

“Gossiping has become the main form of communication in human society. It has become the way we feel close to each other, because it makes us feel better to see someone else feel as badly as we do. There is an old expression that says, ‘Misery likes company,’ and people who are suffering in hell don’t want to be all alone.”

#5

“Nothing other people do is because of you. It is because of themselves. All people live in their own dream, in their own mind; they are in a completely different world from the one we live in. When we take something personally, we make the assumption that they know what is in our world, and we try to impose our world on their world.  Even when a situation seems so personal, even if others insult you directly, it has nothing to do with you.  What they say, what they do, and the opinions they give are according to the agreements that they have in their own minds.”

#4

“You can only be you when you do your best. When you don’t do your best you are denying yourself the right to be you. That’s a seed that you should really nurture in your mind. You don’t need knowledge or great philosophical concepts. You don’t need the acceptance of others. You express your own divinity by being alive and by loving yourself and others.”

#3

“We have the need to be accepted and to be loved by others, but we cannot accept and love ourselves. The more self-love we have, the less we will experience self-abuse. Self-abuse comes from self-rejection, and self-rejection comes from having an image of what it means to be perfect and never measuring up to that ideal.  Our image of perfection is the reason we reject ourselves; it is why we don’t accept ourselves the way we are, and why we don’t accept others the way they are.”

#2

“The world is very beautiful and very wonderful.  Life can be very easy when love is your way of life.  You can be loving all the time.  This is your choice.  You may not have a reason to love, but you can love because to love makes you so happy. Love in action only produces happiness. Love will give you inner peace. It will change your perception of everything.”

#1

“When you feel good, everything around you is good, when everything around you is great, everything makes you happy. You are loving everything that is around you, because you are loving yourself. Because you like the way you are. Because you are happy with your life. You are happy with the movie that you are producing, happy with your agreements with life. You are at peace, and you are happy. You live in that state of bliss where everything is so wonderful, and everything is so beautiful.  In that state of bliss you are making love all the time with everything that you perceive.”
by kenlej
on Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:07 am
 
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Topic: Note from Tom
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How to No Longer Take Things Personally

…And how to stop self limiting beliefs so that you may start experiencing more freedom, happiness, and love.

Based on ancient Toltec wisdom, Don Miguel Ruiz presents the readers with a powerful code of conduct that can rapidly transform lives for the better – The Four Agreements.
With all of the innumerable media influences, peer pressures, and conformity institutions, it’s far too easy to forget who we are, lose touch with your root being, and become a product of the toxic environment from which many of us live.
Ruiz shows us how to take our life back.  
Each agreement focuses on the idea of developing yourself first and training your mind so that you may see the world in new a light and resultantly interact with it in a more optimal, honest, and fulfilling way.
Below is a summery of each of The Four Agreements followed by our Top 10 Quotes list derived from the book.  Take note of any quote that makes you think and leave us some of your thoughts (or favorite quotes from the book) in the comments section below!  Enjoy!
 

The Four Agreements Summary:

Be Impeccable With Your Word – Speak with integrity.  Say only what you mean.  Avoid using the word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others.  Use the power of your word in the direction of truth and love.
Don’t Take Anything Personally – Nothing others do is because of you.  What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream.  When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won’t be the victim of needless suffering.
Don’t Make Assumptions – Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want.  Communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness, and drama.  With just this one agreement, you can completely transform your life.
Always Do Your Best – Your best is going to change from moment to moment; it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick.  Under any circumstance, simply do your best, and you will avoid self-judgement, self-abuse, and regret.
 

 Top 10 Quotes List from The Four Agreements:

#10

“Action is about living fully. Inaction is the way that we deny life. Inaction is sitting in front of the television every day for years because you are afraid to be alive and to take the risk of expressing what you are. Expressing what you are is taking action.”

#9

“Doing your best is taking the action because you love it, not because you’re expecting a reward. Most people do the exact opposite: They only take action when they expect a reward, and they don’t enjoy the action. And that’s the reason why they don’t do their best.”

#8

“If I love myself I will express that love in my interactions with you, and then I am being impeccable with the word, because that action will produce a like reaction. If I love you, then you will love me. If I insult you, you will insult me. If I have gratitude for you, you will have gratitude for me.  If I’m selfish with you, you will be selfish with me.”

#7

“We don’t need to justify love; it is there or not there. Real love is accepting other people the way they are without trying to change them. If we try to change them, this means we don’t really like them.”

#6

“Gossiping has become the main form of communication in human society. It has become the way we feel close to each other, because it makes us feel better to see someone else feel as badly as we do. There is an old expression that says, ‘Misery likes company,’ and people who are suffering in hell don’t want to be all alone.”

#5

“Nothing other people do is because of you. It is because of themselves. All people live in their own dream, in their own mind; they are in a completely different world from the one we live in. When we take something personally, we make the assumption that they know what is in our world, and we try to impose our world on their world.  Even when a situation seems so personal, even if others insult you directly, it has nothing to do with you.  What they say, what they do, and the opinions they give are according to the agreements that they have in their own minds.”

#4

“You can only be you when you do your best. When you don’t do your best you are denying yourself the right to be you. That’s a seed that you should really nurture in your mind. You don’t need knowledge or great philosophical concepts. You don’t need the acceptance of others. You express your own divinity by being alive and by loving yourself and others.”

#3

“We have the need to be accepted and to be loved by others, but we cannot accept and love ourselves. The more self-love we have, the less we will experience self-abuse. Self-abuse comes from self-rejection, and self-rejection comes from having an image of what it means to be perfect and never measuring up to that ideal.  Our image of perfection is the reason we reject ourselves; it is why we don’t accept ourselves the way we are, and why we don’t accept others the way they are.”

#2

“The world is very beautiful and very wonderful.  Life can be very easy when love is your way of life.  You can be loving all the time.  This is your choice.  You may not have a reason to love, but you can love because to love makes you so happy. Love in action only produces happiness. Love will give you inner peace. It will change your perception of everything.”

#1

“When you feel good, everything around you is good, when everything around you is great, everything makes you happy. You are loving everything that is around you, because you are loving yourself. Because you like the way you are. Because you are happy with your life. You are happy with the movie that you are producing, happy with your agreements with life. You are at peace, and you are happy. You live in that state of bliss where everything is so wonderful, and everything is so beautiful.  In that state of bliss you are making love all the time with everything that you perceive.”
by kenlej
on Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:06 am
 
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Topic: How to No Longer Take Things Personally
Replies: 2
Views: 1494

Iraqi Dinar Scam

Iraqi Dinar Scam

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Squirrel Pot Pie
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undisclosed USA
#1 Jun 13, 2013
It has just come to my attention that the "Iraqi Dinar Scam" is now alive and well in Carlsbad. All of my direct family lives there, and my very elderly (but fortunately, very well physically and mentally) mother may be a prime target for this scam, even if by otherwise well-meaning people who have been suckered themselves.

I believe this is simply another Ponzi scheme, a pyramid, where (maybe, but not guarantees) a very few "may" see a little of their money returned in the beginning, but virtually all will be dealt a sleight of hand that may very well ruin many of them for the rest of their lives.

This kind of fraud abounds everywhere, at all times and in many different disguises, but they're always the same. But what really gets me this time around is that (even if conducted by one of those well-intentioned suckers I mentioned above) is that it is involving people who are attending church and marketing this bogus BS to vulnerable people to people from THEIR VERY OWN CHURCH. I don't care if they are assuring people that their money is 100% refundable (which would be a surprise of the greatest magnitude even if THAT was true). I care about the fact that whether a scam artist is knowingly bilking the vulnerable or it's just a case of the person marketing the scam being one of those well-intentioned suckers who has himself or herself acting for the betterment of those who might just be as (I hate to say this) stupid as themself.

Have any of you heard of this (it's apparently been around a long, long time), or otherwise been solicited to participate in this charade?

I would like to know, and mainly want to alert ALL of you to the probability you're looking to get bilked. There is a lot of truth to that old adage "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is".
I've attached only one link of many that tells you more about this.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jayadkisson/2012/...

Meanwhile for those of you who are interested, I am selling shares in a grasshopper ranch that, for a mere $100.00 per share, is guaranteed to bring you a return of 1200% in just the first three months, with even greater returns assured afterward (and my guarantee to you is that your investment is 110% refundable if not satisfied). For those of you interested, kindly PM me so we can discuss this in a private, confidential environment. There is a per person limit of 1000 shares.





Really
Carlsbad, NM
#2 Jun 24, 2013
It is not a scam or Ponzi scheme to invest in another country's money, as long as you understand that the returns vary & may not be as big as one would like, as well as the risks of loosing all together. That one is taking the same chances as one would on Wall Street. Any investment is never, I repeat NEVER, a sure thing, it really is the same as gambling. The scam however comes in when the investors are promised a sure fire large return within x amount of time, guaranteeing they will become over night millionaires! If at anytime someone tries to get you to invest without thoroughly explaining the risks, & only promising return, STAY AWAY FROM IT! In short is getting folks to invest in Iraqi Dinar illegal? NO! Is it being done in an ethical & legal manor? If done as u are describing NO! If you are misunderstanding how its being done then you will feel guilty for slandering the one doing the selling, if you are right then thanks for the warning! And lastly befor doing any investing check with a qualified investment expert, NEVER take friends,family,(remember they are the worst as you never see it coming from them or want to believe they would do you wrong) or do gooders word for it if you do your only begging to be robbed!






Squirrel Pot Pie
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Since: Feb 12
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undisclosed USA
#3 Jul 1, 2013
Really wrote:
It is not a scam or Ponzi scheme to invest in another country's money, as long as you understand that the returns vary & may not be as big as one would like, as well as the risks of loosing all together. That one is taking the same chances as one would on Wall Street. Any investment is never, I repeat NEVER, a sure thing, it really is the same as gambling. The scam however comes in when the investors are promised a sure fire large return within x amount of time, guaranteeing they will become over night millionaires! If at anytime someone tries to get you to invest without thoroughly explaining the risks, & only promising return, STAY AWAY FROM IT! In short is getting folks to invest in Iraqi Dinar illegal? NO! Is it being done in an ethical & legal manor? If done as u are describing NO! If you are misunderstanding how its being done then you will feel guilty for slandering the one doing the selling, if you are right then thanks for the warning! And lastly befor doing any investing check with a qualified investment expert, NEVER take friends,family,(remember they are the worst as you never see it coming from them or want to believe they would do you wrong) or do gooders word for it if you do your only begging to be robbed!

I was very polite in suggesting that the person in question may very well have been duped into believing so completely in what he was selling (although I didn't say I doubt it is true, which I do).
No slander at all.

This week is when the "payoff" is due. Let's sit back and watch the money flow back into the hands of the "investors" at the sums reputed to be.

I do agree with this from your post above:

NEVER take friends,family,(remember they are the worst as you never see it coming from them or want to believe they would do you wrong) or do gooders word for it if you do your only begging to be robbed!
Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/city/carlsbad-nm/T...

Somebody is about to be fleeced.





Question
Casa Grande, AZ
#4 Jul 1, 2013
Can you name the church please? CCF? maybe?
Judged:
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Really
Carlsbad, NM
#5 Jul 2, 2013
You mean rv? There can be no promise of any certainty of when a country's monetary system will rv. The advisors can look at what is going on and predict a possible date, but to make a promise of certainty, not possible. Especially with a country that is still in internal turmoil . I read the article you linked to. & it mentioned the investors relating the Iraqi dinar to Kuwaits dinar. The difference between the 2 was Kuwait was an invaded country that was more than willing to get back to peaceful times and rebuild its stability, so far Iragi shows no signs of even being willing to do so. This comparison is like milk & water. Milk has vitamins & calcium, water not so much. Ie if one is using this as a reason to believe in a substantial return, they may have to be prepared to wait a while.as with all investing patience is the key, you never sell of your shares while low you wait until they rebound! Common law of investing. Of course being wise enough to study your options and not jump at just anything is the main key. Never leap before looking you' ll end up regretting the out cone! Ie when investing use common sense not someone's word or that so called all knowing gut feeling!





bet my life
Tucumcari, NM
#6 Jul 2, 2013
My edlery parents are saying they bet there life that they are going to be millionairs..two weeks ago..they dont have alot of money but are waiting on pins and needles to cash in on their dinars!!They invested two years ago and still believe in it..They are sitting by there computer daily to watch for when they need to go cash in...they have their clothes packed and in the car and stopped doing much at all because they are waiting..anyday to be Rich!Now if they arent being scammed they sure are investing alot of their precious last years of their life waiting on this..It makes me angry that people pray on the elderly like this..yes im sure currency trading is legit..but these gurus are making them promises that has litterly put there lives on hold..It is sad and I cant seem to change there mind no matter what I tell them or show them warnings about this SCAM!!





NicolasKL
Lovelock, NV
#7 Jul 2, 2013
It's not a pyramid or ponzi scheme, but it's definitely a scam.

Buying the currency of a foreign country isn't a scam, but paying 20-50% plus premiums for it because someone (either a well meaning ignoramous, or an unscrupulous con man) told you a bunch of nonsense about it increasing in value by tens of thousands of percent most definitely IS a scam.

There's absolutely zero legitimate reasons the Iraqi currency would undergo a large increase in value. It's incredibly unlikely it'll even go up 50% over the next decade, let alone the 100,000% in the next week that most of these fools believe.

Iraq's currency is worth right about what it should be. There are two VERY simple ways to prove this:

1. Divide their foreign reserves (80 billion USD in value at most) by their money supply (M2, around 75 trillion dinar) and you get about 0.001. Right around what their currency is worth. That isn't a coincidence.

2. Take the TOTAL value of Iraqs currency (their 75 trillion M2 multiplied by the value of each dinar, 0.0086) and you come up with about 65 billion dollars. Now look at their GDP. It's around 120 billion dollars. That's about a .5 ratio of M2 to GDP. Now look at that same ratio for neighboring countries. They'll all be about the same, somewhere between .4 and .7 or so.

Iraqs country is worth right about what it should be. Sure, it could go up 10 or 15 or 20%. That will leave most people, that paid spreads of 20 or 30 or 50%+, high and dry. The chance of the dinar increasing in real value by even 100% in the short term is zero.





Money Maker
Carlsbad, NM
#8 Jul 3, 2013
I would give a week's pay to a hottie who tried to scam me.....in the nude!!!! Money well spent!






Squirrel Pot Pie
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#9 Jul 4, 2013
Question wrote:
Can you name the church please? CCF? maybe?

Out of respect for my family members and their opinions of the individual with whom they dealt, I am not at liberty to disclose the names of any parties.

I honestly don't know if this "investment opportunity" goes all the way to the top of the church in question, or how many church members have been approached or have "closed on a transaction". My family seems to have very long term ties to a particular party who has been transacting these exchanges, and appear to have an unshakable faith in him.

But I'm happy that, although slow, this thread has resulted in a few well-reasoned views - and helped expose something that everyone should think long and hard about before committing themselves should they find themselves approached with this "overnight millionaire" hustle.

It may prove very helpful to google "iraqi dinar guru" and such who are at least in part behind this/these scheme/s, and to google "iraqi dinar scams" and "Vietnamese dong scams".

There's some heartless people out there, folks!





curious
Fuquay Varina, NC
#10 Aug 21, 2013
a lot of people are going to be crushed by the hammer of liars and scammers...Don't invest more than you can afford to loose..I myself bought a few hundred dollars worth but everyday I wonder was I scammed by the dinargurus..If it happens all well and good if not so what I didn't rob the bank to get the money..lol





Youu
Lovington, NM
#11 Aug 22, 2013
curious wrote:
a lot of people are going to be crushed by the hammer of liars and scammers...Don't invest more than you can afford to loose..I myself bought a few hundred dollars worth but everyday I wonder was I scammed by the dinargurus..If it happens all well and good if not so what I didn't rob the bank to get the money..lol

Screw the dinar you need to invest in the Yuan.





Hussein Ali
Burton, TX
#13 Sep 4, 2013
I will not say it is or it is not, In 2008 was 1 USD exchange for 1260 ID / 2012 1 USD exchange for 116 ID in just four years,so it is not scame, and when they revaluate the ID they will not give just one month and any one can just take his IDs and go to the north of Iraq and exchange them ,The gold companies for sure they will not like invest in Iraqi dinar, no one gave good reason to not invest in Iraqi dinar, Iraq has the second oil reserve in the world sooner or later the Iraqi dinar gose back to 1ID exchange for 3.25 USD and don't tell me that it was because Saddam wanted that, because he was buying things like weapon for this exchange from the big economy contries like Russa and USA, it is slow but it gonna happen, ther is a lote reason they dont wanna people know about that like the gold people, rich people stay rich and other stay just money machine makers, if we compare why and why not we found the reasons for invest in Iraqi dinar really strong against why not who keep saying the Iraqi dinars dealers notregistered, Mean yes they are dealer and they go around stuff to make more money like cars dealers or big bank they do this in hidden ways, if somone ask why the big banks don't invest in ID it easy to find the answer.





Danny
San Jose, CA
#14 Sep 12, 2013
Exchange rate is 1166 dinar to 1 US dollar today 9/12/2013 it is a scam.
Hussein Ali wrote:
I will not say it is or it is not, In 2008 was 1 USD exchange for 1260 ID / 2012 1 USD exchange for 116 ID in just four years,so it is not scame, and when they revaluate the ID they will not give just one month and any one can just take his IDs and go to the north of Iraq and exchange them ,The gold companies for sure they will not like invest in Iraqi dinar, no one gave good reason to not invest in Iraqi dinar, Iraq has the second oil reserve in the world sooner or later the Iraqi dinar gose back to 1ID exchange for 3.25 USD and don't tell me that it was because Saddam wanted that, because he was buying things like weapon for this exchange from the big economy contries like Russa and USA, it is slow but it gonna happen, ther is a lote reason they dont wanna people know about that like the gold people, rich people stay rich and other stay just money machine makers, if we compare why and why not we found the reasons for invest in Iraqi dinar really strong against why not who keep saying the Iraqi dinars dealers notregistered, Mean yes they are dealer and they go around stuff to make more money like cars dealers or big bank they do this in hidden ways, if somone ask why the big banks don't invest in ID it easy to find the answer.







Danny
San Jose, CA
#15 Sep 12, 2013
It is a scam , exchange rate is 1166 Dinar to 1 US dollar according to the Central Bank of Iraq official website 9/12/2013






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by RamblerNash
on Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:44 pm
 
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Martha is Back!!! 6/22/16

Monday Evening news from Martha:
Good afternoon.Well thanks for updates but point is is that the ptb,again don't want to go down without a battle
Well,China has said "screw you" and now you are going to learn a lesson.I hope it doesn't take too long.
The big guys who continue to steal from our accounts are done for.
I feel sorry for the innocent people of US but if they had taken blinders off and woken up,this could have been stopped.We all talk about it BUT talk is cheap.

All I can say is be prepared for what maybe total shut down of the US banking and stock market.Remember we are still in the Shemitah and this past summer/fall,China and the BRICS showed what could happen but I feel they tempered it.Today they are ready to destroy us,so we can rise from the ashes to a new world so to speak.

Watch ALL their actions.I saw reference to Reno.Someone asked me why Reno.Almost 2 years ago my business partner spent 3 weeks out there trying to connect with the Admirals group which did not happen.Reno is the home of Wells Fargo currency center for Western US and I believe far East.I also believe San Francisco is another link for the far East as well.Follow the money.

Wells Fargo has THE contract for the exchange thus I would have to say that there is not an issue with bail - ins at this bank.

Realize that the rates are locked in as of 12-25.Also several months ago an excellent 13 page booklet was on recaps about the BRICS Alliance and the Dragon family and the return of the gold standard.Besides the excellent history,the rates were posted with international,market,and contract.There were those who insisted that this whole booklet was bogus but I must say that it is almost 100 percent point on
If you are going to ask my plan about the bail- ins it is very simple.

#1 Wells Fargo to exchange
#2 Don't wait for basket 2 and 3-only international rates and they mat only be a little bit higher than rv - they will be locked and not float.
#3 take contract rates and run!
#4 at this time the collateral world funds have not been fully signed off so I wouldn't sit back and wait.
#5 use non interest bearing accts and don't let them sweep the accts just yet.
#6 we are exchanging asset back to asset back currency.Banks can only use fiat currency for bail ins
#7 protect the money - insure it with cdars,ins policy aka Loyd of London and place under a trust,llc,foundation.
#8 taxes- currency exchanges are tax free events in most states.The dinar is considered an investment currency but is it? Say "NO" you are only exchanging it.Dont get tripped up the banksters.It is NOTB.

Keep it simple.2 years ago,I set a plan in place and I was told to stick to it.As many times,I thought about changing it,I didnt.I just added to it.I am not a greedy person and I  have no desire to play the currency market.I did years ago and lost thousands and over a million with a group that the FBI wouldn't do anything about.
by Ssmith
on Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:42 am
 
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Wiley Morgan of Gen64 on Skype Chat Friday Night ~ Updated 6/10

WHOA.......  It now looks like none other than [size=24]OKIE OILMAN is indeed JOINED AT THE HIP with the GEN64/WILEY MORGAN/STUDLEY/WF/KCIQD, etc., GROUP!!![/size]


Saturday, June 16, 2012


OKIE OIL MAN - Good Advice On Cashing In ----- NEXT WEEK!




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OKIE OIL MAN] I HAVE A LONG POST PLEASE NO TYPING.

[OKIE OIL MAN] Posted with the help of the grass roots Exchange Code team This has been a roller coaster week filled with rumor after rumor. We have personally spent each day this week debunking rumors…the biggest being that there have been people that have cashed out. Folks this is not true. No one has cashed out. In fact the term “cashed out” is not a correct term.

The more correct term is “Exchanged Out” since we will be exchanging dinar (IQD Cash) for dollars (USD Cash). Please all dinarians remember one very simple fact: all the rumors are just that…RUMORS! Always consider any and all information you get as rumors until you see one of two things:
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[size=13]#1 - A live rate on the public site such as www.forex.com and/or

#2 Our group banker calls and says “Here is your Exchange Code…come into the bank!” and you have the Exchange Code in your possession.

[OKIE OIL MAN] We can tell you with great confidence that great progress has been made this last week by the entities that are heading up the Iraqi Dinar and VN Dong RVs. They are very carefully controlling and limiting the amount of information released so that they can get their job done.

So please don’t take RUMORS as fact. Remember what we really care about is live public rate and/or our Exchange Code telling us to come to the bank! Therefore my advice to you is to relax and wait for the FREE Exchange Code and Instructions to come to you via your group or via one of the email auto responders that will be available.

Once you have that information, review it in detail, ask questions to the banker, and make your decision as to what you want to do…use the Exchange Code or not…your choice. Remember the KISS theory…Keep It Simple Stupid…it is very simple. Check it out and you make your choice. It’s a grand plan and what a great way for God’s Wealth Transfer to be even greater! Have a great weekend and Happy Father’s Day to all the Dads! P.S. Dinarians please review this previously posted info from the grass roots Exchange Code Team
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[OKIE OIL MAN] Point #1: Maybe the bank wants your business: if there is an exchange code and instructions that a bank decides to issue, that would secure the bank’s offered exchange rate, that is the bank’s business. Did you ever think that maybe the bank is willing to pay a little more to get your business? Is that called free enterprise and maybe the price the bank is willing to pay to secure a new customer? Have you ever become a grocery store customer because of a grocery coupon they offered?

[OKIE OIL MAN] Point #2: Check it out first: if there is a bank-issued exchange code and instructions, the individuals who have it can go to the bank offering it to check it out and compare it to other currency exchange entities. They are encouraged to shop around. If the individuals don’t want to use it or think it is bad deal then that is their choice. They don’t have to use it. Have you ever checked out a grocery coupon and compared prices?

[OKIE OIL MAN] Point #3: No fees or commissions: NO money or fees should ever be collected from a third party. The bank-issued exchange code will be FREE, once the bank issues it. No one has or is being asked to pay a third party for the exchange code that the bank issues to facilitate an easier exchange process, and to secure a rate that the bank wants to give a group. Have you ever received free grocery coupons that have been given to a club, church, or website mailing list?

[OKIE OIL MAN] Point #4: No third parties: the exchange process is, and will always be between a licensed entity, such as a bank, and the currency owner. Never use a third party or give your currency to a third party for exchange. Have you ever had to sign a contract to use a grocery coupon?

[OKIE OIL MAN] Point #6: No bank-issued exchange code yet: the bank has not yet issued any exchange code or instructions to make the exchange easier, which at that time, will be more beneficial to the currency holder and bank. Once there is a real bank-issued exchange code and instructions, then check it out for yourself and decide if you want to use it. (Point #2). Talk directly to the bank and ask them all the question you desire. Have you ever tried to use a grocery coupon before it has been issued or before the start date of the coupon?

[OKIE OIL MAN] Point #7: No smoke and mirrors: it is really very simple. The bank issues their exchange code and instructions to individuals and group members. Individual members get it FREE and check it out for themselves. Each individual and or group member decides to use or not use it. No contract, no money paid, no fees, totally in the individual’s control. Have you ever used a FREE grocery coupon?

[OKIE OIL MAN] Point #8: Get trusted & professional counsel: it is good common sense and always recommended that a person get counsel from their own trusted friends, family, personal financial planner, CPA, and legal counsel before entering into any transaction. Have you ever asked someone if a grocery coupon is good deal and/or real?

[OKIE OIL MAN] Point #9: Check facts before writing: everyone is recommending that you check out your facts before you start writing any unsubstantiated ideas and thoughts. Have you ever checked out the source of a grocery coupon before telling your friends it is not real?

OKIE OIL MAN] OK DONE - GONE
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by Ssmith
on Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:32 pm
 
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Wiley Morgan of Gen64 on Skype Chat Friday Night ~ Updated 6/10

Isn't this interesting????
6/30/2012

To Whom it May Concern:

From Grassroots Leadership Teams

This is a grassroots effort originally done to help family and friends..  This has grown into a much larger effort and we just wanted to help all currency holders get the best rate possible in the future . Please feel free to forward this information on to the appropriate individuals as desired.

Point #1: Maybe the bank wants your business: if there is an exchange code and instructions that a bank decides to issue, that would secure the bank’s offered exchange rate, that is the bank’s business. Did you ever think that maybe the bank is willing to pay a little more to get your business? Is that called free enterprise and maybe the price the bank is willing to pay to secure a new customer?  Have you ever become a grocery store customer because of a grocery coupon they offered?


Point #2: Check it out first: if there is a bank-issued exchange code and instructions, the individuals who have it can go to the bank offering it to check it out and compare it to other currency exchange entities. They are encouraged to shop around. If the individuals don’t want to use it or think it is bad deal then that is their choice. They don’t have to use it. Have you ever checked out a grocery coupon and compared prices?

Point #3: No fees or commissions: NO money or fees should ever be collected from a third party. The bank-issued exchange code will be FREE, once the bank issues it. No one has or is being asked to pay a third party for the exchange code that the bank issues to facilitate an easier exchange process, and to secure a rate that the bank wants to give a group. Have you ever received free grocery coupons that have been given to a club, church, or website mailing list?

Point #4: No third parties: the exchange process is, and will always be between a licensed entity, such as a bank, and the currency owner. Never use a third party or give your currency to a third party for exchange. Have you ever given your grocery coupon to a third party to handle?

Point #5 No contract or agreements: there should NOT be any contracts or agreements with currency holders and a third party for the bank-issued exchange code. Have you ever had to sign a contract to use a grocery coupon?

Point #6: No bank-issued exchange code yet: the bank has not yet issued any exchange code or instructions to make the exchange easier, which at that time, will be more beneficial to the currency holder and bank. Once there is a real bank-issued exchange code and instructions, then check it out for yourself and decide if you want to use it. (Point #2). Talk directly to the bank and ask them all the question you desire. Have you ever tried to use a grocery coupon before it has been issued or before the start date of the coupon?

Point #7: No smoke and mirrors: it is really very simple. The bank issues their exchange code and instructions to individuals and group members. Individual members get it FREE and check it out for themselves. Each individual and or group member decides to use or not use it. No contract, no money paid, no fees, totally in the individual’s control. Have you ever used a FREE grocery coupon?

Point #8: Get trusted & professional counsel:  it is good common sense and always recommended that a person get counsel from their own trusted friends, family, personal financial planner, CPA, and legal counsel before entering into any transaction. Have you ever asked someone if a grocery coupon is good deal and/or real?

Point #9: Check facts before writing:  everyone is recommending that you check out your facts before you start writing any unsubstantiated ideas and thoughts. Have you ever checked out the source of a grocery coupon before telling your friends it is not real?


 

by Ssmith
on Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:28 pm
 
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Topic: Wiley Morgan of Gen64 on Skype Chat Friday Night ~ Updated 6/10
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Chat From Generals64. Dinar Guru's still carry on the tradition?

The Generals64 Group claims that they don't do "Rates & Dates", but here is a thread that says otherwise. Do you see all the hype that the other Guru's are still using today?

Posted 22 March 2012 - 09:02 PM


[size=16][generals64] ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:...Hang on to your seats as you're going to get it all right here and now...CAn you REally Handle it??????



[generals64] #1. Wells Fargo America as agreed to work with the Iraqi Dinar when it happens...confirmations from all over the United States....

[generals64] #2....$6.38 has been on the screens at Chase bank for 2 Weeks...I wouldn't and I couldn't tell you guys as i want to make sure of what it is...it's is called a "Marker" number....Was there this morning at *;00 my time (CST)...then went 1`- 1 per the Programmer we talk with. every dang day.

[generals64] #3. Lady LeeLee is the same one that put a voice commanded typo on one of our sources and didn't tell him and we hadn't verified it and she said oh, I'm sorry I just told my friends...I... amd...NOT her friend and I got a copy of it...I was livid and asked to be quiet

[generals64] #4....This morning...TODAY...we talked to dinar UK and the CBi (before they closed....if you want the ladies name let me know....you can't handle it folks...They said it ain't a happeneing for some time...Iraq has NOT released it yet.

[generals64] #5.....The rates of 23.10 to 3.68 are everywhere and No a single Swinging soul knows it...No one as it has to be calculated through the asset division for their currency value....Go figure

[generals64] #6. I told someone everything I had heard two days ago (In Confidence) his story was my family is leaving me blah blah blah...Yesterday Hammerman Printed everything word for word....

[generals64] #7...Today...same person...same scenario....Folks...I don't tell all I hear cause it would make your life crumble. Our sources are real and not a bunch of old men scratching themselves in places they shouldn't....I have busted my Ass to make this be right but I', beginning to feel like SteveI when he got tired of being bashed on his own site.

[generals64] #8....Leave Studley alone...he is trying with all his heart...he too makes mistakes ...I know no one else does...But, if you keep listening to their "Junk"...you're going to be Broke...One of the providers has 17,000 emails attached to his IP address...wonder why????

[generals64] #9...this is so dang stupid...following puppy dogs...these people come on,. they tell you a good story and bam they are the messiah and then another comes and then Bam...I do not have to have this to make a living as I have already made mine....I want it to happen just like you do but come on....

[generals64] #10...No Whales cashing out anywhere...NOTICE NONE anywhere....I have been invited to go and have yet to even see the people...Names don't need to be told as they and you know who they are....

[generals64] #11. If you want story book rhymes...go to the library and throw the dinar in the trash....If you want to know the truth then study it...Don't count on ANYONE to handle your investments period...Never in Life....

[generals64] #12. This site and its owner has been the most level during this whole thing....I had a bad thing happen to me when the shout room was here...I then got my cell phone hacked (along with kcmana) but caught that fool...he is one of the gurus yopu all follow...Remember this,....i have so many friends from years past in the three letter agencies that you couldn't begin to imagine...Those giving me a hard time need to be careful with what they post as from now on all bets are off...and it will all be told straight up in this room unless Cool Clown Fish kicks me off and bans me...

[generals64] #13....Hammerman's Father asked me to cut him some slack as he was afraid it was afeecting him personally...Hammerman told me one night he had told some lies but he felt it was his responsibility to keep the rooms level and calm...

[generals64] #14....Now...when is theis going to happen...I was told this morning at 10:00 am...it didn't...I was told at 2:00 pm....it didn't...I was told whales all over the country had been called by Wells Fargo...they weren't...what else do you want to knwop cause tonight I'll tell you all I know and it is not pretty folks....

[generals64] The banking deal we have been working on is with Wells Fargo...We talk EVERY DAY...they are ready and are willing to make us a deal that will scald your grandkids....they want the business...My girls waNT NOTHING AND IF I were treated the way they have been I would have told everyone to kiss my backside......If you treat your friends (you know who I'm talking to) this way then I don't need you and you (you know who you are) will be the last person in the world to cash your dinar out...Promise...I have held my integrity to the highest until tonight...but tonight folks...ask your questions

[generals64] I am Generals64 and I approve this message.

[generals64] If you guys will stop the board and don't pm me...I am calming down but, I'll answer them all...and, i am a big boy...but I am really upset...Guys/Gals...we need to financially help CCF with this site....one way or the other..

[generals64] Fireproof:...Look...I have held the closet I can to keep from telling the BS...Even Bookings will tell you guys that....The truth is not known by anyone...I mean NO one...

[generals64] MAVERICK :...yes it would...some can do more...some can't do any....If we could actually stop the board one question at a time I'll really explain it all

Q & A Session:
[Cheesehead] generals64 SO from what you posted... It ain't happening for a while... because you said that you heard Iraq has not released... So when do you think sir?
[generals64] Cheesehead Cheesehead Cheesehead :...the CBI told us yesterday they were upset with the us as they (USA) were making their country look bad...and that they had nothing to do with it...WE Called the CBI FOLKS for you....then this morning we called a lady with dinar UK (Lori) and she said it was completely in the hands of the UST...She then told us that as long as there were auctions they would not be RV'ing....However...Lori (same lady ) said yesteday that they were expecting this to happen any time now.................Truth I'll give you their phone numbers...The guy at the CBI was put on a three way call

[mammat] ok....It was posted that Studley had already negotiated with WF at cbi +2. What happened
[generals64] mammat;...Studley is a good guy...I have already growled at him as he is talking too much ...there are people who expect everything said to be true....Actually, we (studley) 10%...he then said a dollar but He told me he was working for the entire Bank Spread....for Everyone....Everyone is EVERYONE in and on every site...There was a rumor about him a couple of days ago and I got on him pretty hard and he came back pretty hard...The guy who had him invetigated called and apologized...people make mistakes...The rate we heard today/tonite...23.10 govt. gets $5.00 and the bank gets $2.00 and we get the rest...I also heard $14.38 was showing on Chase bank Screen...No One knows so don't listen to it....I trust Studley until he proves me wrong...Anyone with a Great Dane named "FIfi" is OK in my books.

[joyjoyjoyjoy] Hi and THANK you! Can you tell me how cash-in groups work? Does everyone physically come to the bank at the same time? If so, what security measures would/should be taken? Sure appreciate your caring spirit!
[CoolClownFish] You will not be going to the bank with anyone else. you simply tell them who you are your with this group and your name and you can cash in at the predetermiled rate with that package.
8:33 PM [CoolClownFish] answered that one for ya

[MAVERICK] this is for General , my question is if your that connected then why cant you give us a proximate rate and day , or what is really going on
8:35 PM [generals64] Real Hold up????...I was told it was our Treasury department...First...no Gag orders anywhere...the Ust people laugh everytime I say that....as a matter of fact that's their standing joke.....The guy at Chase told us that everyday at 1:59 the 6.38 rate on the IQD goes back to Zero....Today he told us he was unable to even get to the screens until 3:00 pm...EST...Kinda Strange....The people in CHINA we are talking with said this should have been done 4 weeks ago....I can't figure it out and they can't figure it out...There were some Virus's found up to about 2 weeks ago but they are fixed

[gr8teth] What is the % possibility of the rv going to our elections in Nov?
8:35 PM [generals64] Rumor and Rumor only...We could see this tomorrow...Maybe with me blowing up something will be done.
8:36 PM [generals64] gr8th:...no way

[ZMAN2011] any truth to the statement that the U S is being punidhed for the hold up by being forced to pour in moneo from threasury to reach rate levels? ty
[generals64] ZMAN2011 :...I heard that but just before I found out I had been betrayed and I haven't check it out

[eleanor] generals64 I think the timing is more important to us all than the rate could you elaborate on your statement of it not happening for a while?
[generals64] Precious (elanor)....the entire thing should have happened this country seems to need the money...However, I was really told the whole thing was outta IRAQs hand...and in the hands of the IMF...The IMF has signed off and released it is what i was told...and folks this person is too wel connected...and he might see this so I can't say.

(bookings) generals can you confirm what I hjeard that the rv is happening tonight and the rate is $22.00

8:40 PM [generals64] bookings...i have heard the $22.00 and the 23.10 and the $6.38 and the 14.38 and teh $1236 rate for days...I told you that....But I don't know about it happeneing tomorrow..I sure hope so...YOU bookings know I talk with a Wealth mangement person with Wells Fargo almost everyday....and she is not seeing anything...Folks,...she is sharp as a tack

[beachdreaming] i would like to know if Geitner or Obama is truly holding it back.. who can force them to get it done?
[generals64] beachdreaming...I really think it is Roscoe cause he only got 7 milkbones to 1...No, I don't think it is O or Giethner....this is more than that.

[generals64] I'm not sure about the intent that has come forward and said We (I) are fluffing our feathers etc....just for the klnowledge in this room a...and i am going to be flogged by kcmand and 4th time...But, We have over 3 Tillion dinar to work with...do you think we carry a big enough stick...that is with a T folks...not aB orM


[eleanor] How can we help you, phone calls, moniterr sites, emails, whatever?
[generals64] dlenor...the people we deal with used to trust the other GURUS and other site leaders...they hav ebeen burned so bad they won't talk with anyone...this room has had a bad name of Bashers jumping on people andalso everything said comes in here and people think its true...Think about it...do you really believe some other GURU has a 747 on the Tarmac Idling?

[Javabean] If the rate is 22 and the gov gets 5 and banks get 2, then will we still have to pay taxes or will the gov's % be enough for them??

[generals64] javabean...i have heard so many reports on taxes...it cost $2,500.00 to gt a written ruling from the IRS on this...My personal Tax attorney is $850.00 an hour (he's good) and I don't want to spend the money yet

[LINDI] Is it possible that the Bush family is holding this back?
[generals64] no on the Bushes holding it back...

[Lojack6T] Isnt it possible its just being held up for maximum impact to benefit Iraq during the arab summit and the rest is just a conspiracy theory?
[generals64] Lojack6T;...I think we could see it quickly...I will never give a date or rate...but today so much Smoke was pumped out and everyone fell for it...EVEN I did...

[texanone67] question...does this mean no toaster?
[generals64] I am going to have more toasters tahn Wal-Mart

[Shabibi] How much of all this might just be a bunch of BS and smoke? Not really sure what started this rant and speaking of the truth but I like it!
[generals64] Shabiibi;..ther is NO BS in what I tell you or anyone else...You ahve come at me hard more than once and that is why I don't answer your foolish and mundane questions...By the way Thursday is my favorite day...Why because I met my wife on a Thursdy.Now Dude,...What have you got?...if nothing then sit back and joiin the team or leave the site...
[generals64] Shabibi :..i'm sorry..I am so upset over what has happened and what is being said to the people of this ivestment and please accept myy apology...i was out of line

[righteouswrath] Generals 64... Tex said that you were going to wear a speedo and Roscoe was wearing sunglasses to the barbeque... is that true?
[generals64] Precious :...if that will bring the RV fastr I'll do it..it ain't going to be pretty

[joyjoyjoyjoy] General Thank you for your caring spirit!! Wish you'd tell who betrayed you so we can get 'em for ya! Honestly I would like to know so I don't take stock in what they're saying if posted. Thx for all you share!! You're one of the good guys in my book.
[generals64] My phones are blowing up....I have taken my Blood pressure medicvine and Roscoe is sleeping right now....You guys ask who betrayed you....They know who they are as they are in the room right now....Aren't you dude/

[generals64] I was to have gone to Dallas and cash out cause I too am an Oklahoma SOONERFAN...but he today won't return my calls....Did you know Blaino and Hammerman were banned from other sites?...did you know Blaino Bragged about hacking Okies name...Did you know he laughed about hacking Foghorn's name...hmmm...I have a short call give me a second...hopefully it will answer some stuff...hold on

[generals64] and hey guys/Gals lojack6T is NOT lojak...He is a friend of the family.

[Shabibi] So of all the other "gurus" who share info who would you trust most and who the least to give us a bearing on how to look at their info
[generals64] shabibi:...I owe you this one....Gurus?hmmmm Hmmmm BWM/Tex/Cap1....Studley..Wileymorgan...(really)....Freeway Bill...and SteveI
[generals64] Shabibi:...Dan and Tony seem to be trying real hard now...i don't believe in conspiiracy theorys from anyone and hard to reacll is a good...good friend of mine...

[whitfi10] Was there a call earlier? Generals64 do you host calls? Just wondering if calls really accomish anything?
[generals64] whitfi10 :...calls don't do anything but add fodder to the fire...No one has been 100% right yet....

[generals64] Folks....the Thing that bothers me a lot is the is no one or any law that requires my two gitrls to do anything for anyone...


[generals64] real good call...
[generals64] Precious ;...could be even beter
[generals64] arabic is bad for me
[generals64] still on

[generals64] OK...Wiley morgan has some dude from Iraq who is so dang excited aboaut something neither one of us can understand him...He is trying to get a translator and will let me know if he does....Wiley did two or three tours over there remember that....

[generals64] Guys/Gals;;;;;Please fogive my antics...Drama is not much of my life and I apologize only to this room as this seems to be family...Some one just told me something I had told him and it hit me right between the eyes...."We can save em all and we can help only those that will let us..."...I hope you are one of them as my heart goes to all of you even the Jerk that used me....But, i want to apologize for my actions as they were uncalled for but, from now on you guys get it all up front...

[generals64] I thought I had more class and integrity than I showed tonight....

[FIREPROOF] generals64 we thank you... but be prepared for the rats to take it to recaps.... it will eventually end up there.
[generals64] FIREPROOF :..it will cause so much dissention...they can find me...I know where they are.

[generals64] the bank deal we have is a good one...Good enough johnny asked if he could be on it....HmmmmmmmOur bankers talk to us anytime we need tpo..

[Austin-Powers-For-PM] generals64 So if I understand you correctly, your CBI contact is saying to forget about an RV anytime soon. Correct?
[generals64] Austin-Powers-For-PM :...I don't have a contact at the CBI...We called them on the phone and one day it was ready the next day..no no...so who knows????

[generals64] if you guys get a chance...and he'll talk....live4the brand knows a lot also

[generals64] you guys...Betrayal and just from not verifying it cost me my sanity for a few minutes...maybe hours...i need a beer.

[Shabibi] generals64 Sanity is over rated..beer is rated MUCH higher!
[generals64] Shabibi :...yep...

[Mauiboy] generals64: Only one??? LOL!!!
[generals64] Mauiboy :I don't drink

[eleanor] generals64 btw what brand of beer do you drink?
[generals64] eleanor :...that is Kidney stone medicine but it is Bud Light

[generals64] If you can stop the site I'll explain what we have been doing on the banking situation...it's really very simple

[generals64] the banks want all your money...All...they really just want you and i to get a reasonable amount and they get the rest...Studley adn 4th time are working with Wells Fargo...Wells Fargo wants the numbers we have so, they seemed to desire to give us all they legally can...so what the names and such was for was to give the bank so they could logistically put things together and service us the best way possible...for instance No WF in Oklahoma....I was offered a free airplane ticket to a de larue machine...No, I'll go to Texas>...Studley and his business partner are and have been working on this for some time...they are financial people...me, I'm a dime Store Manager.....

[generals64] What should happen is (hypothetical only )...say it happened tonight...if you went to the bank right now you would get the tellers rate and a thank you very much....But, We have this so close to being finished...girls are real good and so is 4th time and OKCBulldog and .live 4the brand....that we can push our button and send them names etc.,,,they can in turn issue a code that you as a MIG Dinar Holder can go to the Private Wealth person and tell them what you waNT And who you are...they will recognize the code number and your name...If you give the code to your cousin Billy Bob and he is not on the list he will be sent over to the teller and get the teller rate....Now, the beter rate is within their Private banker division...there is a certain dollar (USD) value that you must deposit...probably everyone in here is qualified...Even Roscoe is....then they do the paperwork which you probably haven't done and send you to the teller with your code and an appointment to discuss your wealth management...

[generals64] Make the appointment folks and go to it....if you think you are smarter than these people in finances your probably wrong....they are licesenced adn avialbe...there are programs taht you can get involved with like the rich boys are and let your money work for you...so that you don't have to work for money...does that make sense???and, it's that simple...but, without your name and the code number you'll not get the extra...nothing big and EVERYONE should be treated the same..don't you think????and, me and my group of kids are not making anything on it period...but i sure would like a new toaster....ask the other sites to tell you what they have in store...Oh yeah the other banks will follow suit...they want your money ...study Fractional Banking and you'll see.

[generals64] Fractional banking...????? Google it...get a case of beer and start reading..you'll still not understand it but you'll have fun trying...

[wisegrysqrl1] generals64 when you say our name do you mean our screen name or our real name?
[generals64] wisegrysqrl1 ;...they won't take your screen name on a deposit slip...Promise you that...

[joyjoyjoyjoy] generals64 Are you saying we'll get the same rates Studley is working on? Are bank packages the same thing as group cash-ins? Still unclear on that. thx!
[generals64] joyjoyjoyjoy :...Studley is doing the stuff for us....I talk with him e

[king] Generals64 do u believe a14. Rate could exist IYO ?????????????????????
[generals64] king yes

[Florida] Shabibi Yup. But I thought fractional banking was going away with the new Basel III... anybody know?
[generals64] Florida Fracational Banking is a way of life....the banks are able to sell their deposits nightly with it...your money never stops being used...24 hours a day and 365 days a year

[generals64] I promise not to blow up like that agin folks...not my style....even embrssed to myself right now...When you get over 150 calls aday and about 35 of them daily are smart aleck pranks...your tension is developed

[wisegrysqrl1] generals64 were you saying no Rv anytime soon earlier?
[generals64] wisegrysqrl1 :...ask me that tomorrow night
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[size=16][generals64] If you guys will do what I made texanone67 do you'll be a little less stressed.....take the dustiest book in your house (The Bible to some of you) and read and live John 19:20....you'll thank me many times as she has....Promise from the bottom and depth of my heart....I had a guy tell me to listen and find the darkest part of your heart and liten to what God says at that point.....I did, and I have....this same guy was a convicted Morderer and doing life....and from nowhere paroled...He died of cance a while bak...miss him a lot...[/size]
by RamblerNash
on Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:38 pm
 
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Topic: Chat From Generals64. Dinar Guru's still carry on the tradition?
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Mountain Goat 3/22/16

Hello Everyone,
 
There was a ton of news after I published Friday’s news letter. WOW! It came at us like a running bull once the protestors took to the streets again and crossed over into the green zone. This scared many of these politicians and so finally we began to see some real action towards movement of the Abadi reforms for his cabinet reshuffle. I explain all this today to you.
 
So what should be taken from today’s news?
 
Well we should realize what is now holding up the RV.
 
We should see that the political process in Iraq is very slow.
 
We should understand who the culprits are in slowing down the process.


But remember that by getting more technocratic” ministers this is only the beginning. The only hope is that they too can perform and can get the job done without the level of corruption we have seen by their predecessors.
 
If I could predict the future, this is how I see it playing out (not necessarily in this exact order):


  • The needed new ministers get ratified in parliament this week or next.
  • Amnesty and Judicial Reforms get passed very soon afterwards
  • Abadi does not leave the Dowa party, for if he does he must first resign his position as prime minister and they hold reelections. This they do not want to do. So we can see the necessity for him to leave the Dowa party but you also see the ramifications of doing so. So he will not leave, but instead change the party (and even call it something else altogether) and find a way to get rid of the dead weight bringing down the political process and needed overall changes that they party now does not embrace.
  • Abadi and Sadr then crank up the case and pressure to a new level to clean out the rubbish of the Iranian politicians (Maliki and his goons) and bring them all to justice through the judicial system. Again they will use the pressure and power from the average citizen to drive it
  • The Federation Council is announced as a forth body of government
  • The office of the president gets back 1 deputy as VP. I will leave it to you who to guess who gets this position. I’ll give you a hint – his last name begins with a “H” .
  • The Parties law is passed and enacted
  • Many of the corrupt politicians simply escape from arrest warrants and leave Iraq. There passports evoked and extradition is requested. 
  • Meantime Mosul is cleansed of ISIS and reconstruction begins while all this is going on.
  • Price of oil begins to rise due to production limits agreed to by OPEC and GCC members.  
  • The new Conscription law breaks up any Iranian militias and outlaws the private para-military groups, since these very same members must now serve in the Iraq military. 
  • The National ID cards take hold and everyone in Iraq now has an ID card. They must be able to prove citizenship. This eliminates any Iranians since, if they are detained and can not prove they are Iraqi, they will be exported. 
  • Dr Shabibi is announced as reinstated as head of the CBI once again (he was always officially and is always still heading up the CBI but political scandal forced his out of the seat and placed an illegal proxy governor)  
  • Iraq launched the lower denominations to fight inflation due to rising oil prices
  • Iraq moves to Article 8 as a UN member nation, RV is done 4-7 days later.

 
Am I wishing for the stars? 
Do you see what came last in my list of trends. If you had noticed I did my similar predictions over a year ago. So what happened according to my predictions from then? Just about everything I talked about did happen.
 
Iraq got the majority of the much needed laws (at this point in time of what is needed), we now have a heightened awareness of the crimes committed by Maliki and his goons, the citizens and religious leaders are now driving the pressure for reforms, talk now is that Iranian  influence must end, ISIS is almost under control (their last stronghold is Mosul), IMF is now working closely with the CBI to align the banking systems and financial systems, the financial and political paths have not yet converged, no RV has taken place.
 
YES – I still give my prediction and windows of the greatest opportunity for an RV. Right now I still hold the conviction of mid March to mid April for an RV. I have told you why and showed you the evidence. I can only relate the news given to the possibility of the RV according to what they tell us. Will it happen?
 
Events change and the process can speed up or slow down. We wait and see. If not then I move on to the next possible foreseeable future window as the news rolls in and we can paint another picture of the future. 
 
As I said many times the RV is a by-product of the process, the end result and not the main driving force. It will simply happen when the conditions are right. Want to know when the RV will happen? Then study the conditions in Iraq that will make it happen. It is that simple. Like in the Starkist Tuna commercials-  Sorry Charlie… no RV this week !

Today’s News
 
Today is Monday March 21st   2016. Still no RV.  Sorry Charlie!  

 
Update: Iraqi Economy
 
It was reported last week that, since the start of the new year, Iraq's have collected $350 million in customs and tariff fees after new methods and mechanisms of their own including those related to the application of the new customs and tariffs.
 
As I have said the customs and tariff fees alone could rival the oil revenues once fully implemented. WOW! But this collection now is without being tied to the electronic system. I have talked to you many times already about this system and how it uses the global currency exchanges to determine the rates of exchange to convert the fees to a payable amounts quickly and efficiently. Just recently again they told us they really need to tie into this system since the long lines and traffic at the boarders needs to be eliminated and is causing havoc. How can they link into the system without a global currency rate for the dinar ? We know the IMF requires consistent rates for the dinar to 2% margins or less. Leaving the manual method of exchange only breeds the possibility of yet more corruption, as you will soon see if they do not switch over to the electronic system soon. This could mean the loss of yet billions more.
 
Next we see Iraq finally beginning the extraction and capping of natural gas from their refineries, as they said was an objective many years ago in the news to us. Under the new sustainability environmental  UN mandates meeting these new environmental laws and is also beneficial financially to Iraq as this gas could bring in billions of revenue.
 
So what is this capping process?
Instead of being burned off (the flames you see in pictures on the oil rigs) and wasted, the gas can be captured and stored in the process of extraction of the oil. It can now be sold as natural gas. This process has been done in the west for many years already. 
 
But how do you do this safely and efficiently?
This is a new science and they now have a method to do it. It is being applied now too to the Iraq oil rigs.
 
There is also the pollution abatement aspects to the environment in the process. It is a win-win situation for everyone. Remember the UN sustainability goals for the middle east? This is all yet more of the big picture for the future of this region. It is all good! See article below.
 
Article Begins
 
IRAQ STARTS EXPORTING THE FIRST SHIPMENT OF LIQUID GAS
 

Iraq begins Sunday export the first shipment of liquefied gas through the southern ports, according to the announcement "Radio Sawa" a spokesman for Iraqi ports Directorate Tigers net.
 
Safi said that the Directorate will hold a celebration of export shipment of liquid gas to be transported on board a Panamanian tanker, without specifying its destination.
 
He added that this move reflects the evolution of the capabilities of the Iraqi ports in the export of oil derivatives:
 

Article Ends
 
Next I am bringing you the update on the forming of the technocratic government. First we must understand what is going on here to fully get the crust of these articles I present to you today. You do want to understand don’t you? Or do you just want a date and a rate? NO Hype, NO Rumors, JUST the FACTS..

We all know why Abadi is doing this reform effort and this is not a surprise to the other Iraqi politicians since he said when he first established his cabinet in 2014 that he would evaluate his cabinet’s performance after a year of service and then clean house if they did not do their jobs.
 
So this part of the entire reform process did not just come out of the woodwork, but instead was a well planned event. The problem is in the implementation, since in doing so, the plan calls for converting to hiring experienced people to do the job versus just filling the quotas for these positions.
 
As you know quotas are by tribe (Sunni, Shi’ite or Kurd). Of course the parties involved are resisting and this is causing delays since they do not want to give up their quotas of people (experienced and capable of doing the job or not). So Abadi has told them either give me more experienced nominees to fill the quotas or I will fill them with experienced personnel regardless of quota and so I may put a Sunni in a Shi’ite slot or a Shi’ite in a Sunni slot. (Kurdistan in the meantime has submitted their candidates and as we heard demanded they retain their quota and will cooperate fully to do so). We read articles about the Kurdistan meetings with Abadi on this subject in the recent weeks.
 
So let the fighting begin! Like everything else they do politically, there must first be first a long a fight and this causes long delays in implementation. But finally we will see a more technocratic government and Abadi will get his needed reforms. Only we don’t care to see these fights and delays and we want the RV now! But we will not get the RV until this is all resolved. Don’t worry too much however since ISIS must also be cleared from Mosul too and this even seems to be progressing along the same timelines as the needed Abadi reforms. I call this multi-tasking in a grand scale….lol…lol..
 
We must also see a drastic reduction in Iranian militias and Iranian political influence on a whole (whatever this means must be done) prior to any RV. I have told everyone this many times.
 
This is not Mnt Goat’s opinion, guessing or conjecture but FACTUAL mandates from the UN, USA and GB. So believe what you want from these other so called intel “gurus” about their every day/any day RV info and hype but this will not make the RV happen any faster. So if you really want the truth then open you minds, eyes and see the truth, since it is all there in black and white for you to read in the articles. Just the articles may be days or even sometimes weeks late but this does not make them any less factual. Even because there are sometimes a few propaganda articles, misinterpreted too by the translator engines used, does not discredit all the good and honest news brought forward out of Iraq either. Besides you should by now be able to see these bad articles and just ignore them. Can you? If you can’t by now do this then you are not really concerned about finding the truth and only want to find yet more excuses to discredit the truth and get you your everyday bandwagon again for hype.
 
I am trying to make it easier for everyone to see and understand by publishing my news letters sometimes 3 times a week. You can chose to bash me if you want but this does not and will not change the news or bring the RV on YOUR schedule. Sorry charlie!   
 
Back to today’s news.
 
So by the many articles below I tried to sequence them in some order that makes sense so you can readily see the progression of this political nonsense that is going on in resisting Abadi’s much needed reforms. Seems they “must go through it to get to it”….lol…lol…but we all know the final outcome already.
 
The first article #1 is telling us that Sadre gave Abadi until Friday to finish the cabinet reshuffle or he would send 100,000 protestors into the streets again, like he did last week. This time they would move yet closer to the green zone. We even witnessed on the news that they did in fact cross over the bridge and into the green zone this time (a warning of things to come from Sadre. The protestors so far have been peaceful and have not used violence. See article #1.
 
So what came out of Friday’s protests.
We see the protestors are staying and sleeping out in tents  this time as a show that they are not going away – a sign that they are NOT going away and will remain a threat until the demands are completed. This creates enormous pressure on the government.
 
Then we witnessed reports from the airport that over 220 politicians and families fled the green zone over the weekend in fear that the protests could go violent and also they would come as a lynching mob for them next. See article #6 and #7. Many who fled are corrupt and should flee too since they are on the list of those for citizen arrests if the judicial does nothing to punish these corrupt officials. We know of the top three on their list too since they told us last week and I presented this article to you then.
 
Then we see an announcement that Abadi will go forward and submit to parliament the names of candidates that were submitted to him already. See article #2 and #3 below. They told us the cabinet reshuffle will be partial and the committee of experts in need of some more time. This action was due to the pressure. Remember it is parliament that must pick and ratify the new candidate for the cabinet positions.
 
Okay in the midst of all this confusion then out steps president Masum to help out in the situation.
 
I quote from Article #4 below -  “An emergency meeting of the three presidencies with the leaders of the   blocs and political parties at the invitation of President Fuad Masum, Saturday afternoon, in the Peace Palace in Baghdad”. So we see that Sadr gave Abadi a 10 day extension, meaning 10 days from last Sunday 3/20 to 3/30 (or end of March). Will they then go after the corrupt officials in the green zone holding back progress? Or will Abadi complete the reshuffle with the help and support from all the parties? 
 
So then out pops Mulla with statements to explain the situation yet even more to the people. Remember these articles are not for us in the western world but for the average Iraqi citizen to keep them informed.
 
See article #5 below. He is telling us primarily that the only way to expose the corrupt is for Abadi to leave the Dawa party since he has too many close ties to the party to force the action needed for these reform changes. We all know very well want Mulla is talking about don’t we? It is these three main political figures the protestors demand justice for mostly. 
 
I quote from the article – “Mulla said L / balance News / "Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi it not possible to reveal the corrupt in the case was able to leave first the Dawa party and the time for government action."
 
So what resulted from this emergency meeting that was held?

I quote from Article #8 below – “ MP for the Liberal block on Hoalah, Sunday, that the ministers of the bloc told the Prime Minister Haider al -Abadi they will put their resignations at the disposal of the cleric Moqtada al - Sadr political body for the Liberal bloc, stressing the insistence of the mass on its position on the goal of forming a technocratic government composed of ministers " are not subject to the parties
 
I quote from article #9 below – “It revealed a member of a coalition of state law that fall under the National Alliance Ibtisam al-Hilali, Sunday, to provide the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi reforms ministerial end of this week.”
 
So we finally see the stubborn coalition of state law (Maliki’s party) agreeing to submitting their candidates this week.
 
Then we see article #10 telling us that on this Thursday 3/24 they plan to vote on the ministerial changes in parliament (ratify the new members). Will it happen or will they postpone the vote, as they usually do? This may occur since the names of the candidates where not yet presented and ONLY agreed to present them in time for Thursday’s session. Since we know they never do anything on time what can we expect then on Thursday? Let’s see how it all plays out.
 
WOW! It seems like a lot to get to the final outcome didn’t it?  However I wanted to show you in articles and absolute proof (FACTS) of how they work in Iraq and why it is taking so long to do anything. This is the main reason why it is March of 2016 already yet the government still is not fully formed as needed to meet mandates by the UN and USA for a “full” and “functional” government.
 
The mandate is this - no “full” and “functional” government then no article 8 since they will not turn over all this money to a radical terrorists government. Note - they almost did it in 2012 but Maliki stopped it to spite Dr Shabibi but in the long run we see he actually cut his nose off to spite his face and helped the IMF and the USA to see that there was still much political progress to be made before unleashing article 8. So lesson learned and they will not go down this same road again. Do you get why it is taking so long now? I keep trying to help everyone understand.
 
NO – the UN and the USA will not be fooled again by proxy ministers and a government susceptible to corruption and Iranian influence. It must be clean this time even if it takes years or more to do it!

Update: 45 Day Deadline for Technocratic Gov’t
 
Article #1 Begins
 
FIRST SITTERS SPEND THE NIGHT IN FRONT OF THE GREEN ZONE GATES (MARCH 19TH) 
 
Spent sitters first night in front of the Green Zone gates, and spotted a camera / balances News / dozens of them and they are lying after a long day describe as "Juma biting fingers" to begin the countdown to ten days will witness the "Battle of bone-breaking" until a cabinet reshuffle and reforms demanded by the street and support the cleric Moqtada al-Sadr.
 
Hundreds of people gathered in a large marquee in small tents they Althvon blankets ready and others Avcrashwa sidewalks in exchange for small tents.
 
Reporter / balances News / as monitoring the presence Mkh_khash tent for the treatment of exposed to fatigue among the protesters and was equipped with the required medicines and medical supplies in case of emergency.
A source in the sit-ins of the Commission stressed that the protesters were divided into meals and participate in 2000 Moatasem front gate of the cabinet only, one of the entrances to the Green Zone.
 
The source told / balances News / "The protesters against the rest of the Green Zone gates will be coordination and determine their numbers and divided into meals," pointing out that "will be determined by the preparation of the protesters in front of the other gates also to keep organizing sit-ins."
 
And spotted tents of protestors from the civil power and gathered dozens of activists.
The protesters began to erect platforms sit in front of the gates of the Green Zone, a few minutes from the security forces allow them to cross the bridge of the Republic.
 
Organizing Committee of demonstrations and sit-ins of the Sadrist movement called, on Friday, all the protesters who do not have business cards registered by it (Lepage) to withdraw from the sit-in yards.
The head of the martyr Sadr's office in Baghdad, Ibrahim al-Jabri formation of a special committee to negotiate with the government in the event that the last wish.
 
Regulatory committee supervising and called on the sit-ins Msaoualjmah, to adhere to the unified slogans involving demands for reform and full cooperation with the security services and allowing them to exercise their functions, and charged the protesters to "wear uniforms by the Organizing Committee, which carries the slogan Iraqi flag."
 
The cleric Moqtada al - Sadr called on citizens to exercise their lives and not feel scared, and called for opening closed in the capital , Baghdad , roads, and said that " the prospects for change began and began nebula Balanakecaa , " stressing not to allow any armed spread outside the security forces framework .
 
In the past, to say "do not close the roads and closed shops nor the other", he stressed on the necessity of the continuation of "all work so that public interests do not stop."
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Article #1 Ends

Article #2 Begins
 
ABADI, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE: CABINET RESHUFFLE WILL BE PARTIAL AND THE COMMITTEE OF EXPERTS IN NEED OF SOME TIME          
 
Long Press  03/19/2016      
 
It entered the ministerial changes, which called for the conduct of the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi recently, in a dark tunnel after the political blocs to refrain from answering Abadi messages to submit their nominations.
 
And ended last Wednesday, the deadline given by the Prime Minister of the blocks to submit their candidates, without political parties show a clear interaction with the project Minister for "substantially modified".
     
Paralysis of the Committee of Experts tasked with assessing the candidates of the blocks for the new government to pay Abadi to retreat from the idea of ​​a "fundamental change", and Aljaw E to a partial change in the light of the understandings now conducted with the parties to the National Alliance.



And it demanded political and religious views recently to dissolve the government and parliament and hold early elections. But it will take months of logistical arrangements and the allocation of funds may not be available in light of the financial crisis experienced by the country.
     
The Abadi had announced on March 9 this, that the cabinet reshuffle will be substantial and will be soon, and when he called to offer ministers professionals names and qualified to fill ministerial portfolios, he stressed that the change will be on in accordance with the constitutional framework and political partnership between the components of the people.
     
He says Mahdi Keywords, head of the Office of the Prime Minister in a special statement to (range) that "presumably on the Committee of Experts, set up by Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, a study biographies made to it by the political blocs or independents to form a government of technocrats."
     
He added: "It this requires some time and linked to the question of the end of the blocs to submit their nominations to the Prime Minister," pointing out that "the prime minister said earlier that the upcoming ministerial changes will be substantial and faculty."
     
In light of the wide reservations made by parties to the National Alliance on the reshuffle, director of the Office of the Prime Minister is expected to "be a part of change," but he stresses that "it remains to be up to the Prime Minister."
     
In the meantime, he called Virtue Party Reference Guide Mohammed al-Yacoubi, on Saturday, to hold early elections after the formation of a genuine independent Elections Commission, as called for amending the election law a way that preserves the will of the voters.
     
The MP commented on the mass of the beauty of virtue Muhammadawi emphasizing that "the problem in Iraq is the biggest change within the government and the Minister of cabins after repair You took a long time and did not reflect positively on the management put the country in general."
     
He Muhammadawi, told the (Long Press), "The document presented by al-Abadi to the political blocs were not clear," he said. "All parties demanded an explanation from the head of government in order to move the process of ministerial changes."  He pointed out that "the books of the prime minister's office and sent to the blocks did not explain the ministries to be changed."
     
He Virtue Bloc member, said "all political blocs declined to submit their nominations to the President of the government because of the lack of visibility of the prime minister of political views," noting that "the National Alliance forces have not conducted any meeting to discuss amendments to the ministerial meeting after Karbala."
     
But the former official of the election commission draws out that early elections "requires logistical preparations by the Commission for a period of up to four months in order to prepare the voters' register."
     
Adel al-Lami, told the (Long Press), "it is difficult to predict the financial Elv specifically to any electoral process because the legislative elections cost differs from the provincial elections, but the cost of the parliamentary elections does not exceed $ 150 million."

 
Article #2 Ends
 
Article #3 Begins
 
KEYWORDS: GOVERNMENT IMPLEMENTATION OF A BYGONE CLOSE REFORMS
 
19/03/2016 16:17 pm (Baghdad time)
 
BAGHDAD - balances News
Director of the Office of the Prime Minister Mahdi Keywords, said Saturday that the government continues to make reforms based on the document launched by Abadi, a few days ago.
 
He explained Keywords during a seminar held by the progress of policy development institute and attended / balances News / "The government continues to implement its reforms, according to the document launched by the Prime Minister recently," he said, adding that "the document identified the criteria and mechanisms for repairing the ministerial change required."  
 
He added that "there is a problem in the follow-up process by government institutions," adding "to ensure that there is harmony between theory and application."
 
He Keywords to "put points for examination Alkmarki in the northern and southern provinces," revealing "a clear increase in customs revenue."
 
It is said that the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has launched a comprehensive reform document and presented to the Alssayash.
 

Article #3 Ends
 
Article #4 Begins
 
URGENT: "ORBIT NEWS" PUBLISHED THE TEXT OF THE STATEMENT OF THE THREE PRESIDENCIES MEETING WITH LEADERS OF POLITICAL BLOCS      

An emergency meeting of the three presidencies with the leaders of blocs and political parties at the invitation of President Fuad Masum, Saturday afternoon, in the Peace Palace in Baghdad.
 
According to a presidential statement received 'orbit News' copy of it, that in the beginning of the meeting alive attendees victory of our heroine in Anbar and Mosul and cutouts other and expressed their emphasis on stand strong will and Dolly citizens in Taza who faced brutal crimes committed by terrorists, was also emphasized the need to maintain the security of the capital Baghdad and limiting arms possession security forces.
 
He added that the meeting focused on the political and administrative reform and the fight against corruption and the ministerial amendment issues and to express their respect for the popular will as represented by demonstrations and sit - ins in the country since July last year and is still ongoing.

He pointed to the 'formation of a committee represented by all political factions and representatives of the three presidencies that would follow up the implementation of the reform measures and alterations cabinet in a week to help the prime minister in a cabinet reshuffle urgently and activate the work of the Supreme Council for the fight against corruption and speed up the resolution of independent bodies Files'.

The statement continued , was also at the meeting approve the formation of a committee of the two communities and their representatives to liaise with leaders of the parties to the national demonstrations to understand the demands and express them in practice in the Commission 's work in coordination with the government and the House of Representatives.
He pointed out that he was stressed at the meeting on the need for the work of the House of Representatives on the completion of stalled and delayed legislation and laws so as to help in the promotion and Ayijiba pace of reform.

Presidential statement pointed out that these measures is an expression of the State 's need real reform, launched by the Prime Minister, which is consistent with the national will , which is being expressed through the demonstrators and protesters patriots who are the basis of the part of the political process and the owners of a genuine interest in Iraq a free , democratic, progressive and safe .

The statement concluded that he was stressed by the presidents and representatives of blocs and parties expressed their support for the legitimate demands and the importance of focusing on accelerating the pace of reform , especially in these circumstances that require everyone to ensure the security and stability and provide area of our armed forces to devote to the performance of national tasks in the fight against Daash and eliminated.
 

Article #4 Ends
 
Article #5 Begins
 
ABADI - MULLAH CALLS TO QUIT AND CALL FOR A FULL-TIME GOVERNMENT ACTION PARTY
 
Political  19/03/2016  
 
Special scales News
Student of the political bureau of the Union of Iraqi forces by Haidar al-Mulla, Saturday, Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi to leave the political work in advocacy and a full-time government action in the Council of Ministers Party.
 
Mulla said L / balance News / "Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi it possible to reveal the corrupt in the case was able to leave the Dawa party and the time for government action."
 
"The Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi dropped a great opportunity towards reform when he got the mandate of the people of Iraq and behind of the political blocs and religious authorities," noting that he "did not invest the opportunity to make real changes."
 
He added that "al-Abadi unable to change the security chiefs in his capacity as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, where he does not need to return to any party because we lack the presence of General Command of the Armed Forces."
 
He pointed out that "a change of ministerial cabin concerning the political blocs and the parliament and not the will of the individual to Ebadi."
 
He continued that "the street Flounced not objecting to being on the presence of certain names in the ministerial cabin, but because he did not receive the security services and all the necessities of life."  
 
And between Mullah "Reform has not reduced alter the faces and names as if he changed all ministerial cabin without changing the wrong approach followed by the political process over the past years, the street will rise up and as a result can not bring services into the street and to restore normal life to him."
 
The Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has announced his determination to implement the decision of the ministerial change is essential for evaluating the work of the state and to combat corruption.

It is said that a sit-in to follow the Sadrist movement began since yesterday in front of the Green Zone gates to demand change and reform and the fight against corruption.
From: Nur al-Din Wahba

 
Article #5 Ends
 
Article #6 Begins
 
INTEGRITY REVEAL THE ESCAPE OF MINISTERS AND AGENTS ARREST WARRANTS ISSUED AGAINST THEM
POLITICAL
 
19/03/2016
 
Special - balances News
Revealed to the Parliamentary Integrity Commission member Adel Nouri, Saturday, for the escape of a number of ministers and deputy ministers out of the country who have been sentenced to judicial orders for their involvement in the corruption of files out of the country.
 
He said Noori's / balances News /, "The information reached the Commission stating the escape of a number of ministers and deputy ministers implicated files of corruption out of the country despite judicial orders for their rights," and accused the government of "not to deal seriously with the files of corruption revealed by the Integrity Commission." .
 
He said a member of the Parliamentary Integrity Commission, that "there is a clear reluctance by the executive bodies in the activation of the arrest warrants."
 
The Integrity Commission announced, earlier, on the transfer of three ministers to justice on charges of graft and inflation Alomwal. Haidar Almitm

 
Article #6 Ends
 
Article #7 Begins
 
GREEN ZONE ALL EMPTY .. 220 OFFICIALS AND PARLIAMENTARIANS LEFT FOR OMAN AND DUBAI AND ISTANBUL
 
Baghdad -arac Press -20 March / March: A source in the Iraqi Airways, on Sunday, to leave more than 220 officials and MPs have crossed three airports during the past two days, coinciding open - ended sit and wave the possibility of breaking into the Green Zone.   
 
An officer in the Iraqi Immigration Department, said that " the majority of bookings on the Iraqi lines and other lines, were to Iraqi officials and their families and those close to them, who went to the Jordanian capital , Amman , and Istanbul , Turkey, as well as reservations to Dubai in the UAE."   according to the source, who declined to be named, the "more than 350 families arrived numbering to about 1,400 people , including women and children, have left Iraq in recent days, all of them relatives of officials and Iraqi lawmakers. "   for his part, a senior official said , in one of the service departments, the green zone where the government headquarters, said that" more than 120 houses and luxury apartment inhabited officials and parliamentarians, have become free inside the green Zone, having abandoned its inhabitants, finally. "   
 
He added, Anwar al- Tamimi, an employee in the green Zone," most of the residential units and recreational areas, prepared for the accommodation of politicians, had been emptied of its residents who left to the capitals outside the country, while representatives left some lawmakers to their provinces and regions clan. "   
 
She spoke , political sources on the state of" panic "hit the Iraqi politicians and parliamentarians, with the escalation of the protests carried out by followers of the Sadrist movement and civilians allied with them in thevicinity of the enhanced regional security, threatened Bagthamha.   the look of the Iraqi capital,
 
BAGHDAD, free of political movement who usually moved within the huge convoys of armored cars, as well as a cooling media activity and confined to statements write them on their pages on networking sites.   Iraqi officials and warns of a "soft coup" carried out , Muqtada al - Sadr, drawing tens Alylav followers .   the limited movement in the green Zone, which isolated the Americans with their occupation of Iraq in 2003, the security elements and some foreign embassies operating in Iraq staff, as quoted sources within the security box accommodation of ruling political elite. on Sunday the US embassy in Baghdad said, it would not intervene in the sit - ins of the Sadrist movement in front of the green Zone as an internal affair ..   the US ambassador to Iraq , Stuart Jonesanh not worried about the security of the embassy inside the green Zone, expressing his belief that "the Iraqi security forces will provide protection for diplomatic missions" .
 

Article #7 Ends
 
Article #8 Begins
 
MINISTERS OF THE LIBERAL BLOC REACH ABADI PUT THEIR RESIGNATIONS AT THE DISPOSAL OF SADR'S POLITICAL BODY
 
Sunday March 20, 2016 - 12:00
 
MP for the Liberal block on Hoalah, Sunday, that the ministers of the bloc told the Prime Minister Haider al -Abadi they put their resignations at the disposal of the cleric Moqtada al - Sadr political body for the Liberal bloc, stressing the insistence of the mass on its position on the goal of forming a technocratic government composed of ministers " are not subject to the parties . " said Hoalah,"
 
The ministers of the Liberal bloc told thePrime Minister Haider al - Abadi during the last meeting of the Council of Ministers, that they put their resignations at the disposal of the cleric Muqtada al - Sadr political body for the Liberal bloc. " he added that" this step comes within the efforts of the Sadrist movement to change government cabin completely. " He stressed Hoalah, that" the mass is still insisting on its position on the formation of a private technocratic government that includes ministers are not subject to the parties, "according to the Sumerian News. 
 
It is worth mentioning that thousands of protesters have, on the first Friday (18 March 2016), erecting tents the protest called by the cleric Moqtada al - Sadr, after performing Friday prayers in front of the green Zone gates in central Baghdad. He called on al- Sadr, on Thursday (17 March 2016), to accelerate the "reforms , " adding that the protest was a "public pressure factor" to reach " comprehensive reform

 
Article #8 Ends
 
Article #9 Begins
 
STATE OF LAW: ABADI, WILL PRESENT HIS REFORMS THIS WEEKEND
 
Political
20/03/2016  
 
Special - balances News
It revealed a member of a coalition of state law that fall under the National Alliance Ibtisam al-Hilali, Sunday, to provide the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi reforms ministerial end of this week.
She said Hilali's / balances News /, that "the blocs agreed with the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi on the implementation of reforms, but there are external proposals crashes activation of these reforms", revealing at the same time that "Abadi will be presented this weekend ministerial reforms."
 
She added, "All the political blocs put their ideas on the Ministerial reform and Abadi said he will choose the most appropriate idea," calling Abadi to "submit a document of reform as soon as possible."
He revealed security expert Fadel Abu loaf L / balance News / Today, that all the political blocs sticking respective ministers and prepare them for "Superman," among that most of the ministries managed brothers and relatives of ministers.
 
And held three presidencies, yesterday, an expanded meeting attended by the heads of political blocs to discuss the new selection to the Government of Altankoaqrat Almertqubh.
From: Haidar Almitm
 

Article #9 Ends

Article #10 Begins
 
THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE TO VOTE ON THE MINISTERIAL CHANGES ON THURSDAY
 
BAGHDAD / .. revealed a coalition of state law, on Sunday that Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi will present ministerial its change s to the House of Representatives on Thursday to vote on them.

The leader of the coalition, Saad logistical's "Eye of Iraq News," that "three presidencies and political blocs agreed yesterday at a meeting to provide Abadi new names of ministers for a vote in Parliament next Thursday," explaining that "the political blocs will help Abadi in the selection of new ministers without to nominate candidates for the prime minister. "

He logistical "The new ministers will be from a competent, professional and not independent but .. will have political leanings but the important thing they're with expertise in their field," and to speed up the selection of ministers before the deadline leader of the Sadrist movement, the end of the green to break into, said that "this is not It has no deadline unrelated chest. "

And held on the evening of Saturday, at the Peace Palace in central Baghdad meeting  of the three presidencies with the leaders of political blocs called for by President Fuad Masum, while face meeting to form a committee to contact the leaders of the demonstrations to follow up on their demands, another committee represented by all the political components and presidencies that would follow up implementation of the reform measures Ministerial amendment called for by Prime Minister Haider al - Abadi in a week.

The Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi deadline granted by the political blocs is over, last Wednesday, without offering any block candidates, the center of the Sunni blocs refused to participate in the next government and the sufficiency role of the opposition and observer, as an impetus to extend the deadline a week 

 
Article #10 Ends
 
Update: Fighting ISIS
 
Most importantly please, please, please let’s not forget to keep praying for the success of THESE IRAQI AND COALITION SOLDIERS. I believe our prayers are in part some of the acceleration of the process we are now witnessing.  
 
Remember too to pray to the princess of peace – Our Blessed Virgin Mary. She has the ear of Christ and she can intercede in heaven and bring us the peace we all desire here on earth. We can not do it alone. I believe that if we all make this our daily prayer you will see change. It is already working even in the short time since I have been publishing this prayer section. It does not matter what religion you believe, if you pray then to your oven beliefs entity it is still the same powers and good for all of mankind. Ultimately it is all the same God anyhow.
 
“Lord, protect Abadi and all who stand with him in righteousness, the Iraq and coalition soldiers who are fighting the good fight against terrorism, that they would be shielded from the enemy and would be victorious against them in the battle for Mosul! We ask that the victory comes swiftly and healing of the Iraqi peoples and all whom have been effected by these evil doers can begin!
 
We pray for the process of the currency reform, the full implementation of  the Iraqi economy to full  international status and the bringing of prosperity and wealth to its people“  Amen!
 
Till next time…. Auf Wiedersehen!
 
Peace and Luv To Ya All, 
Mnt Goat
by Mountain Goatee
on Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:03 am
 
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Iraqi Dinar Lawsuits Reviewed

Iraqi Dinar Lawsuits Reviewed


Cases and Lawsuits Related to the Dinar

There have been a number of lawsuits involving iraqi dinar, we cover those and related complaints below. We will research each as time permits.

* IF you have not read our page on the 5 Stages of Hype used to sell you on the Dinar, you should check it out!

Topics tagged under 8 on Dinar Daily Lawsuit-notice-pin-smallNOTICE: The FBI asks that you call 877-236-8947 if you feel you’ve been mislead into buying Iraqi Dinar. They want to hear your story! Letters have been sent to the court asking the court to give back money that was acquired in the raid – the feds can tell you more about this!

Case #1USA vs Sterling Currency Group, Ty Rhame, James Shaw, Carole Laurette Shaw, Frank Bell. The complaint, concerning Money Laundering, also mentions Sterling Funder (owned by Sterling’s attorney David Lilenfeld with Tyson Rhame and James Shaw), GID Partners, Isolveit.Com (registered to Sterling Funder’s VP of Product Management), and many more. This lawsuit was filed after Husam Tayeh brought up Money Laundering in their amended complaint against Sterling Currency Group.

Case #2USA vs Dinar Corp Inc, Husam Tayeh and MyMonex – This complaint was filed after Sterling discussed registration in their response to Husam’s lawsuit.

Case #3: Dinar Corp Inc Lawsuit Complaint Review – Husam Tayeh is a Dinar Dealer who owns Dinar Corp, Inc. (DCI) and filed a lawsuit against Sterling Currency Group.

Case #4: Sterling Currency Group Lawsuit Complaint Review – Sterling sued me for $5 million and I counter-sued them for $20 million. Check out my adbusive litigation letter to Sterling’s attorney David Michael Lilenfeld and look at the exhibts I provided the court. Also, check out my email to Tyson Rhame and his hostile response!

Case #5: Virginia A. Burdette – complaint to avoid and recover fraudulent transfer.

Case #6: This is a Defamation Complaint / Lawsuit filed against Tamer Deniz and was dismissed shortly after.

Case #7: Stefano Grossi Consulting – Stefano Grossi was hired to create the website to sell iraqi dinar to investors. In court, he told the Judge “I didn’t lie, I told the truth but at times I didn’t tell the truth”. He committed misconduct in court and lost the case!

Case #8: Pigott Law vs BH Group and BH Group Indictment

Case #9: This U.S. Army Major was charged with Smuggling Iraqi Dinar out of Iraq.

Case #10: USA vs Anthony Renfrow Plea Agreement – and learn why he ran with the Plea agreement.

Case #11: FBI Seized these assets from Tyson Rhame’s home and Sterling Currency Group – additional case

Do you know of a case / lawsuit that is related to dinar dealers or dinar itself? If so, please leave a comment and let us know!

Cease and Desist Orders and more…

State of Alaska Order 15-1449-C Final Cease and Desist Order Imposing a Civil Penalty against Sterling Currency Group, LLC.

7. In the course of the same examination, the Department determined that Respondent acquired GID Associates, Inc. (“GID”) (gidassociates.com) on September 20, 2013, but failed to disclose this acquisition to the Department and register GID.

Emergency Order 2015-014 to Cease and Desist Activity and to Suspend License of Sterling Currency Group, LLC

2. On June 3, 2015, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) executed a search warrant against Sterling and Ty Rhame (Rhame), Sterling’s founder. While executing the search warrants, FBI agents raided both Sterling’s offices and Rhame’s home.




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by RamblerNash
on Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:42 am
 
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James Shaw vacations to the Bahamas on Dinarians money.

@RamblerNash wrote:Iraqi Dinar Lawsuits Reviewed




Cases and Lawsuits Related to the Dinar

There have been a number of lawsuits involving iraqi dinar, we cover those and related complaints below. We will research each as time permits.

* IF you have not read our page on the 5 Stages of Hype used to sell you on the Dinar, you should check it out!

Topics tagged under 8 on Dinar Daily Lawsuit-notice-pin-smallNOTICE: The FBI asks that you call 877-236-8947 if you feel you’ve been mislead into buying Iraqi Dinar. They want to hear your story! Letters have been sent to the court asking the court to give back money that was acquired in the raid – the feds can tell you more about this!

Case #1USA vs Sterling Currency Group, Ty Rhame, James Shaw, Carole Laurette Shaw, Frank Bell. The complaint, concerning Money Laundering, also mentions Sterling Funder (owned by Sterling’s attorney David Lilenfeld with Tyson Rhame and James Shaw), GID Partners, Isolveit.Com (registered to Sterling Funder’s VP of Product Management), and many more. This lawsuit was filed after Husam Tayeh brought up Money Laundering in their amended complaint against Sterling Currency Group.

Case #2USA vs Dinar Corp Inc, Husam Tayeh and MyMonex – This complaint was filed after Sterling discussed registration in their response to Husam’s lawsuit.

Case #3: Dinar Corp Inc Lawsuit Complaint Review – Husam Tayeh is a Dinar Dealer who owns Dinar Corp, Inc. (DCI) and filed a lawsuit against Sterling Currency Group.

Case #4: Sterling Currency Group Lawsuit Complaint Review – Sterling sued me for $5 million and I counter-sued them for $20 million. Check out my adbusive litigation letter to Sterling’s attorney David Michael Lilenfeld and look at the exhibts I provided the court. Also, check out my email to Tyson Rhame and his hostile response!

Case #5: Virginia A. Burdette – complaint to avoid and recover fraudulent transfer.

Case #6: This is a Defamation Complaint / Lawsuit filed against Tamer Deniz and was dismissed shortly after.

Case #7: Stefano Grossi Consulting – Stefano Grossi was hired to create the website to sell iraqi dinar to investors. In court, he told the Judge “I didn’t lie, I told the truth but at times I didn’t tell the truth”. He committed misconduct in court and lost the case!

Case #8: Pigott Law vs BH Group and BH Group Indictment

Case #9: This U.S. Army Major was charged with Smuggling Iraqi Dinar out of Iraq.

Case #10: USA vs Anthony Renfrow Plea Agreement – and learn why he ran with the Plea agreement.

Case #11: FBI Seized these assets from Tyson Rhame’s home and Sterling Currency Group – additional case

Do you know of a case / lawsuit that is related to dinar dealers or dinar itself? If so, please leave a comment and let us know!

Cease and Desist Orders and more…

State of Alaska Order 15-1449-C Final Cease and Desist Order Imposing a Civil Penalty against Sterling Currency Group, LLC.

7. In the course of the same examination, the Department determined that Respondent acquired GID Associates, Inc. (“GID”) (gidassociates.com) on September 20, 2013, but failed to disclose this acquisition to the Department and register GID.

Emergency Order 2015-014 to Cease and Desist Activity and to Suspend License of Sterling Currency Group, LLC

2. On June 3, 2015, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) executed a search warrant against Sterling and Ty Rhame (Rhame), Sterling’s founder. While executing the search warrants, FBI agents raided both Sterling’s offices and Rhame’s home.



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by chilimama
on Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:36 am
 
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Topic: James Shaw vacations to the Bahamas on Dinarians money.
Replies: 12
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James Shaw vacations to the Bahamas on Dinarians money.

Iraqi Dinar Lawsuits Reviewed




Cases and Lawsuits Related to the Dinar

There have been a number of lawsuits involving iraqi dinar, we cover those and related complaints below. We will research each as time permits.

* IF you have not read our page on the 5 Stages of Hype used to sell you on the Dinar, you should check it out!

Topics tagged under 8 on Dinar Daily Lawsuit-notice-pin-smallNOTICE: The FBI asks that you call 877-236-8947 if you feel you’ve been mislead into buying Iraqi Dinar. They want to hear your story! Letters have been sent to the court asking the court to give back money that was acquired in the raid – the feds can tell you more about this!

Case #1USA vs Sterling Currency Group, Ty Rhame, James Shaw, Carole Laurette Shaw, Frank Bell. The complaint, concerning Money Laundering, also mentions Sterling Funder (owned by Sterling’s attorney David Lilenfeld with Tyson Rhame and James Shaw), GID Partners, Isolveit.Com (registered to Sterling Funder’s VP of Product Management), and many more. This lawsuit was filed after Husam Tayeh brought up Money Laundering in their amended complaint against Sterling Currency Group.

Case #2USA vs Dinar Corp Inc, Husam Tayeh and MyMonex – This complaint was filed after Sterling discussed registration in their response to Husam’s lawsuit.

Case #3: Dinar Corp Inc Lawsuit Complaint Review – Husam Tayeh is a Dinar Dealer who owns Dinar Corp, Inc. (DCI) and filed a lawsuit against Sterling Currency Group.

Case #4: Sterling Currency Group Lawsuit Complaint Review – Sterling sued me for $5 million and I counter-sued them for $20 million. Check out my adbusive litigation letter to Sterling’s attorney David Michael Lilenfeld and look at the exhibts I provided the court. Also, check out my email to Tyson Rhame and his hostile response!

Case #5: Virginia A. Burdette – complaint to avoid and recover fraudulent transfer.

Case #6: This is a Defamation Complaint / Lawsuit filed against Tamer Deniz and was dismissed shortly after.

Case #7: Stefano Grossi Consulting – Stefano Grossi was hired to create the website to sell iraqi dinar to investors. In court, he told the Judge “I didn’t lie, I told the truth but at times I didn’t tell the truth”. He committed misconduct in court and lost the case!

Case #8: Pigott Law vs BH Group and BH Group Indictment

Case #9: This U.S. Army Major was charged with Smuggling Iraqi Dinar out of Iraq.

Case #10: USA vs Anthony Renfrow Plea Agreement – and learn why he ran with the Plea agreement.

Case #11: FBI Seized these assets from Tyson Rhame’s home and Sterling Currency Group – additional case

Do you know of a case / lawsuit that is related to dinar dealers or dinar itself? If so, please leave a comment and let us know!

Cease and Desist Orders and more…

State of Alaska Order 15-1449-C Final Cease and Desist Order Imposing a Civil Penalty against Sterling Currency Group, LLC.

7. In the course of the same examination, the Department determined that Respondent acquired GID Associates, Inc. (“GID”) (gidassociates.com) on September 20, 2013, but failed to disclose this acquisition to the Department and register GID.

Emergency Order 2015-014 to Cease and Desist Activity and to Suspend License of Sterling Currency Group, LLC

2. On June 3, 2015, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) executed a search warrant against Sterling and Ty Rhame (Rhame), Sterling’s founder. While executing the search warrants, FBI agents raided both Sterling’s offices and Rhame’s home.



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by RamblerNash
on Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:27 am
 
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Martha & Iko 1/18/16

IKO, going first with update on where we are LOAN Officer within WF receiving swift codes to do final input tomorrow. treat as rumor. watching ships like an electronic hawk

IKO..THE N GULF IS FULL WITH TANKERS TYING UP TO IRANIAN PIERS..TUGS, SUPPLY SHIPS ALL THERE

ships are not tied up and left . but, supplies, and some tankers up and down the iranian coast. money starting to flow

MONEY IS STARTING TO FLOW...QUESTION IS WHERE IS IT FLOWING FROM

MARTHA: READ IN REUTERS IRAN HAS RI'D AND HOPEFULLY WITHIN THE NEXT 48 HRS THEY WILL RV


HEARD THERE WS A PROBLEM WITH SHIPMENT FROM VENEZUELA TO IRAN (SIDE DEAL MAYBE) THAT NEEDS TO BE STRAIGHTENED OUT

trying to finish up contracts. shipments with Venz and Iran, trying to straighten out. lots of side deals. contracts and rates, swift codes. working to straighten all out.

IF Iraq is coming to N.Y. tomorrow, could happen tomorrow night. we don't know who all got paid in Iraq. heard all sorts of #'s, needs to settle on a mutual #

MARTHA...IF IRAQ COMING TO WASHINGTON MAYBE IT IS TO SETTLE ON THE CORRECT RATES

BLONDIE: MARTHA WHAT IS YOUR "FEEL GOOD TIMEFRAME"

MARTHA WEDNESDAY BUT IT WILL HAPPEN FAST, THE DOOR OPENS STARTING WED

IRAN WAS TO DO SOMETHING 48 HRS AFTER THE FACT, THEY RI'D ALREADY

Martha; all went backwards, Iran was supposed to do something 48 hours AFTER the fact, but the RI, paying off all debts needed settleing, wants the rates they want the oil at. then, she feels it's a go

bLONDIE: ASKED MARTHA HAS OBAMA ENTERED HIS RESIGNATION..

Martha,  reserving her commentary until tomorrow ..  addressing call for tomorrow, NESARA
TOMORROW TUESDAY, WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL NESARA CALL AT 3:30 EST FOR 90MIN OR SO

USING THE WINGIT NUMBER (THE SAME AS CALLED FOR THIS CALL) # 641-715-3580 159453#

MARTHA: THE CALL TOMORROW WILL BE ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY THAT THE NEW REPUBLIC WILL BE ESTABLISHED

Martha meets Imperium. Talking about the possibility of the new republic coming in, indications coming in stronger that that needs to happen. articles trickling out into the room, sited an article out of Florida.  MIAMI HERALD REPORTED SHADOW GON'T ESTABLISHED

Possible G. Dunford possible president, until proper election done. Alots of criticizm on NESARA.

SUPPOSEDLY THE NESARA HAS BEEN VOTED ON BY THE GOV'T TO RE ESTABLISH THE GOLD STANDARD.  NESARA blocked by Congress, its purpose to return us to the gold standard.

TOMORROW WE WILL DISCUSS THIS "CONSPIRACY" THEORY  On tomorrows call, break open the conspiracy on NESARA. Martha, read last three chapter 23, 24, 25 of Creature of Jeckly/Hyde Google, NESARA .. read it, good, bad and indifferent
Plan included the BRICS, dynasty and what need to go forth in forder to move forth.

ZAP .. most acurate conclusion as to where we are, what's needed left to do. hoping for tomorrow.

LAST NIGHTS ZAP THE MOST ACCURATE IN WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE TO GET EVERYTHING IN ORDER

Martha: don't be afraid to ask questions tomorrow on that call. IMPERIUM: going to wait until tomorrow to contribute on call with Martha

IKO .. regarding waiting for oil rates to be official, the past 2-1/2 days, once the oil dropped below 29 ( ?? ), feels they are negotiating how things are to be set thing up. 

THEY LOADED 2 LPG TRANSPORTS AND SENT THEM ON THEIR WAY BUT NO CRUDE OIL HAULERS

Q and A time

wheels: Martha, please reiterate NESARA law. google in NESARA , look for nesara law, all capitals

IF WE DON'T HAVE THE JEKYLL ISLAND BOOK, LISTEN ONLINE...READ THE "DOOMSDAY CHAPTERS" 

if we watch the vidoes on C Jeckel Island, watch the youtube videos, are they the same? Martha, don't know.


Mystical: http://www.pdfarchive.info/pdf/G/Gr/Griffin_G_Edward_-_The_Creature_fr​om_Jekyll_Island.pdf Read last 3 chapters especially

Caller Trisha: Q: IKO / MARTHA in last night regarding WITHERIN. had some really unusual info: o holding up, two months out, bush and group good guys, china russia not in favor...the whole thing of NESARS /new republic. totally opposite of everything we've heard.

Gerry's answer: if it's the real weithering, we welcome him to come on this call. could aslo be someone stiring the pot. Gerry questions the authentic nature of who this guy is. Way, too far down the line, too much has happened.

GERRY: NOBODY KNOWS THE RATE AND DATE BUT LOOK AT IKO, MARTHA DIZZY BEAR....LOOK AT WHAT IRAQ IS DOING... look where we are. Watch what they are doing, not what they are saying.

caller was upset at witherins statements that we are two months away.

IKO; addressing Trisha question: for what Withering posted today, the real withering has a particular humor, if you didn't recognize it, it was not the real mccoy. today, he sounded indignitant, which he should have been.  anyone who comes on at this point and states it's a month off is absolutely doing noting buy trying to make trouble.

iran is coming onto the internatinal market, and cannot come unless these other countries come out. china wil not allow this

it's like a huge red neon sign: the RV is here. maybe not until tonight/tomorrow at 3am..but it's here.

CHINA WILL NOT LET THAT HAPPEN...SEE WHAT IS MOVING, IRAN IS MOVING, THEY HAVE RI'D...THE RV IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER

jeeter Q: specifically about the iranial rial, articles saying sanctions lifted but domestic trade embargos preventing some trades: financial institutions. can we exchange this in the US?

IKO response: he doesn't think we can exchange rial, before dinar.

IE: if we excanged the rial, turned around and purchased a whole bunch of other currencies, over tiping the bucket. understand anxicities. trash the stryofom cup.

jeeter: even if the dinar and rial go at same times, (all currencies) seems like there is specific language allowing or not allowing financial institutions to exchange. some banks may not be wanting / allowed to exchange in the us, on the rial

Martha: they rial has been reinstated, but lots of paperwork needs to be cleared, money deals on table, A. Merkel now opeing up trade agreements with iran; when al is said and done, the rial with rv with the basket of currencies. but, is happening backwards. rial has reinstated, next two days, we should have an rv for everyone. not going to come out seperately. will be together.

IRAQ is the shiny star.  all will become traded currencies, all banks will be doing the exchanges. they are all getting ready.

also, why would the Swiss bank approve iran to come back on board. iran has been accepted back into the swift system

waiting to see if iran has joined the AIIB. we wait our turn.

Q, IKO, what did the rial at. ? $3.32  MARTHA BELIEVES IRAN AT THE SAME RATE AS IRAQ

IKO, must remember there are a 1,000 deals mixed up with iran / iraq / vietnam/ etc. tons of stuff negotiated 10 - 30 years ago, all needs to happen basically at the same time for this to go. IRAN has RI'd, they are trying to move ahead and do business as usual

IKO:IRAN HAS RI'D AND THEY ARE DOING BUSINESS NOW.   all of the previous commerce agreements will be made to happen, and makes sense to him that the RV, is following the RI. Call banks, can I exchange the Rial? Banker: NO.

Q; regarding the North koreans, how will NESARA solve this problem? tempting the whole world into fighting/ warring

A. THESE COUNTRIES ARE WAKING AMERICA UP SAYING WE WILL DO WHAT WE HAVE TO TO PROTECT OURELVES

Martha: just thinks they are protecting their territory. wanting / forcing the US to wake up, we will protect ourselves. biggest issue is ISIS.  in ME, all countries coming together, helped to get them out. also by dropping the oil prices, IsIS losing their money. IRAN wants to look at the potential issues that oil may not be around in the future.

caller: likes the idea that oil will become oil free. looking forward to newer technologies.

Martha; eventually we will not need oil as energy: telsa, amazon building cars, other sources of energy, cleaner, this is the ultimate goal, clean up ecology

caller: koreans .. US leave us alone?

Martha, everyone wants this.  EVERY COUNTRY WANTING THE US TO STOP ENGAGING IN THEIR BUSINESS

Martha: looking forward to our dollar being asset backed, more value. no more pyrmading, getting to parity.  AFTER PARITY, GOLD WILL BE MORE VALUABLE AND PRICES ON EVERYTHING WILL GO DOWN

Caller: most people having a hard time hanging onto their money, inflation, no value. wanting gold to provide more value.

Martha: cost of goods will go back down, and gas down below a $1.00 $1.73 in Florida, still heading downwards. thinks we'll see oil at $20.00 barrel
GAS IS UNDER 1.00 IN SOME PLACES IN THE US ALREADY IN MICHIGAN .   .77 A GALLON

caller: like to see a balance come about, more equal for all, more fairness, quality back to americans

Tex2007 Q: 3 questions: #1 for the last 3 years , been hearing derivitives. been put in it's own compartment, however the banks now stuck with blown up oil contracts based on x amount of dollars, who is going to pay those bills. liability of bail ins on bank depositers

#2 those 1,000 of contracts written re: contractors in all of those countries, how will we work thru this.

#3 RE: Wetherin; we were friends on TNT, in chat last night he said a 4-letter word, the real W would never have spoken like that. W rebuffed that, well, I was just giving intel.  W stated he gave his real name. But, doen't believe he was. the SECOND W that came in, she believes was the real one.

TEX2007 regarding the oil contracts that are blowing up in the banks, what will happen to them?

Martha, heading into bail-in’s this week the piss test. 

MARTHA...CHINA HAS TAKEN OWNERSHIP OF SOME OF THE TOP 5 BANKS..
SOME OF THE BANKS HAVE CONTRACTS, THE TOP 5 INC HSBC WHICH HAS JUST LAID OFF 500...CHASE BOUGHT UP SILVER FUTURES THINNING THE MARKETS WILL RISE AGAIN..WHO WILL PAY FOR ALL OF THIS?

the diverivitives markets covered by China, taken a % ownership; WF under contract by China, China controlling the whole thing. The bonds that were releases to the banks, part of the payout, for theRV HSBC, WF, CITI , they are still doing housekeeping. Chase is another major problem, when it bought up silver futures, thought the market would come back up, buy silver depreciating.

SOME OF THE BANKS HAVE CONTRACTS, THE TOP 5 INC HSBC WHICH HAS JUST LAID OFF 500...CHASE BOUGHT UP SILVER FUTURES THINING THE MARKETS WILL RISE AGAIN..WHO WILL PAY FOR ALL OF THIS?

MARTHA THINKS WE WILL BE SAFE FROM BAIL INS?. thinks that last week, a lot of 401k were wiped out. hopes it doesn't happen, but we may be like Greese/Cyprs, more like a housekeeping, not a failure. doesn't really know, just hoping for the best

everyday, a different notch, try to connect the dots everyday. Watch what people are doing.

IKO: concerning derivatives/bail ins, the asset backed econ is going to change the book, no one written the book yet. derivatives will disappear, and underlying securites will be secured, once we become parity. things will be rough, ways to protect money against bailins. if there are bail ins, shame on you for being included

Prof Florida Q: IKO, how many federal and state taxes on gas? could see at prices go lower, the states will raise taxes. happens when there is a shortage. just be prepared

Lionheart Q: lookig to deversify in order to hold onto monies, thinking about other currencies baskets / assets to invest in to protect and grow monies

Martha says she has the 2nd basket of currencies. She wrote an article about it, roughing them out. 2nd BASKET Here they are: repeat of first basked: NEXT-11 countries, Iraq, Yuan, zim, Indon. Rupiah, India Rupee.

MARTHA: REPEAT OF FIRST BASKET..THEN N 11 COUNTRIES, MOST SE ASIAN, IRAQ, YUAN, US DOLLAR NOT IN, ZIM, INDIAN RUPEE,VIETNAM

2ND BASKET YOU WILL BE PAYING FULL PRICE FOR THE CURRENCY..              the ZIM, will be the international rate, not going to really make any more money, as you will be paying full price for that currency. cannot trade off.

VNN AND IQN IN SECOND BASKET.THEY BALANCE AND COMPLIMENT EACH OTHER  Reason for the 2nd Basket, they balance, they compliment, cold be perhaps for the general public.

Other countries, 2 or so African contries, may come out as 'sleepers' as they've not switched their currencies.  OTHER 2ND BASKET COUNTRIES.AFRICAN COUNTRIES..SLEEPER COUNTRIES,

MARTHA WILL HAVE THOSE TOMORROW.   On tomorrow's call, Martha will give all of the specifics on the 11 countries. they have changed the guidelines, ie: must have $1M to get into the 2nd basket. But, will not really make any more money.

YOU WILL DO MUCH BETTER IN THE 1ST BASKET EXCEPT MAYBE THE BRICS NATIONS..SOUTH AFRICA AND ZAMBIA MAYBE.  Except for the Sleepers. "N" means New.

IKO describing the country Zimbabuawe (sp) "One huge diamond sitting in a pool of Gold, surrounded by a ring of Platinum" (hard to hear him)

IKO: LOOKING AT MARINE TRAFFIC SITE, STATIONED A PILOT SHIP..WHICH IS USED TO DOCK SUPER TANKERS TO START PUMPING OIL IN A FEW HOURS
at Khairg Island, there are 70 super tankers, and their purpulsion sheets are on line. Looks like they'll be pumping oil in a few house.

MARTHA ? CAN SUPERTANKERS GET INTO GALVESTON.

IKO SUPER TANKERS MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET INTO GALVETON PORT BUT BARGES COME OUT AND UNLOAD OFF TANKERS transfer / transport into Galvaston

Gerry: reveived a PM .. people wanting to know how Martha has come about her information? Martha, has business connections in HongKong. Another person is in the Historical Bond Market. 

Martha, I read a lot, books, parents provided my with a lot [love?] of history. READS AND STUDIES LIKE WE ALL CAN

Lionheart: Re all the rumors abut the meeting tomorrow, the rates / cbi, -- do you really believe that is what's going on right now, considering Iraq has already negotiated these things?

IKO, I have mixed signals.

Martha. it's just a formality.  Tomorrow, she thinks it just a look at balancing things out, Cards at $3.41 - $4.71  MEETING IS A FORMALITY TO COME TO A HARD RATE WHERE IRAN AND IRAQ WILL HAVE PARITY, WHERE ALL COUNTRIES WILL BE WITHIN .50 OF EACH OTHER

IKO, experience extremely large projects, like the guys have already done it by the time the project manager shows up. Mr. Project Manager Suit: this is done, you can sign off on it now.

IKO, we're watching an efficient shipping situation, iran has ramped up for it, we're past the point of return, not a slow roll out any longer.

Bob in Texas Q: thanks for this like-minded chat room, intelligent folks. Re: call #8, the marine traffic, lives on the coast area, re: the ships, and poof they're gone. when they parked the ships, was that more to help to put a relieve on the oil porcess to relax

IKO back: the fields off Galvanston, the purpose to have those ships parked there, ?? then, the prices began dropping, prices had been agreed upon, suddenly the agreed upon price, they wanted re-negotiated. but the prices began dropping, and no one wanted to take them the shippers' werent making any money.  So the ships sat in the waters.

these are some very serious men / women who deal with cash on the barrel. they dug in their heels and things then started to get testy. they then got a load of crap from all the oil barrons, but they didn't get teir price, things began up again.

if you look all over the world, the pacific rim are where all these ships are they are still sitting. In Asia not heading West.

Q: by them setting still, does this help with the pricing, or create shortages  IKO, not qualified to state or say

Iko THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR INFORMATION BOB IN TEXAS

Martha, equador, think ou are the epitome of intelligence in this group.

EQUADOR: THEY WORRY ABOUT BAIL IN WITH BANK BEEN IN BUSINESS A LONG TIME IF NOT COMFORTABLE WITH BANKS LOOK AT BROKERAGE FIRMS

Q for Martha: wants input, they worry about bail ins with banks, been in business for 50 years. not comfortable with banks, insure with Credit unions, brokerages can insure for up to 150M

IKO IS A NAME OF A JAPANESE WOMAN WHO TOOK CARE OF ME AS A KID IKO CLEARING NAME

BigE Gratitude's on the call. Q: are we going to do a recap at the end, or do one now?
YOU WILL HAVE TO WAIT BIGE

Blondie, hoping this is our last call. That's the plan, sometimes have a special call, and will add extra calls, ie: tomorrow with Martha  TOMORROW SAME TIME SAME NUMBER

Steve in Texas: for Iko / Martha, about 30 days ago, spoke of a step-wise plan: groups, internet groups, public. how does this look now, all at once or groups prior

M: don't know, good question.

Iko .. ditto, but guess is, that level of control has been lost. may well be a shotgun approach, we will all know at once, banks will handle us in different ways  Iko TOO PUBLIC NOW.  JUST DO NOT SEE IT HAPPENING THE WAY WE WERE TAUGHT. 

C: bankers being lied to, will they be retraining other bankers?

Iko, experienced that within his bank, last week bumped into the fellow he used to sit and talk with, sorry I've had to be quiet, acknowledge it's going to happen, but can't speak too much on it. his words to me, "I have a special needs child, wife out of work. I can't afford to lose my job over this."

Iko, believes there will be a lot of people to process our needs, work long hours, do what it takes.

C: do you and Martha, think that when it RV, will it be on FOREX for a few days, or make no major announcement

M: I think there will be an announcement, tomorrow could very well become a photo op

Iko: THE MINUTE I HEAR ABOUT THIS I AM EXCHANGING EVERYTHING NOT GOING TO WAIT

Iko, what I'm going to do: when I hear, going to exchange everything, right there. not to play the rate game.

I CAN AFFORD TO DO THAT AND I CAN SMILE THE REST OF MY LIFE IT IS DIFFERENT FOR ALL OF US

GET IN AND DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AND BE THANKFUL FOR WHAT WE GOT

there's enough information ( not INTEL ) that we need to get in do what we need to do, be grateful, and get on with life

C: Martha, do you think that China needs to take the market down further? M: waiting to see what happens tomorrow

M: don't feel this will affect us with the RV, but should help us instead. Also in a period of debt forgiveness. China almost like they are teaching US a lesson

C: it's the US corporation, not the people of America.

M WE ALL HAVE TO GET TOGETHER AND START DOING SOMETHING     MULTIPY ONE PERSON BY ONE PERSON GETTING BIGGER GROUPS TOGETHER

M: I agree, we are all part of this, and we need to form groups ( for the purpose of educations / informing )

BlackEyePea: Q for Iko, you mentioned about 20 min ago about Iran pumping oil, how does this translate to what we're waiting on?

RE: the rial, a big pump going on the the rial, not going to happen before the dinar. Q: doesn't this put added pressure on Iraq / GCR?      Iko / Martha: most definitely

M REMEMBER EVERYONE WE ARE GETTING BITS AND PIECES THE REST OF WORLD IS NOT LOOKING AT THIS

Iko, heard there is a huge meeting happening in the background of the meeting tomorrow. the rest of the world is watching the front show, we know more of the back meetings

Q: can load the ships on an RI, but cannot send it across the ocean without an RV!!!

I: THE SANCTIONS HAVE HURT IRAN ---IRAN HAS BEEN A LEAD NATION THROUGHOUT HISTORY  I: WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST 3-4 DAYS is a miracle.  LOOK HOW THEY MOBILIZED LOOK AT THE HARD INFORMATION THAT IS COMING OUT

look at the hard information, not interpertations. no room for mis-interpertations.  IT IS BLACK AND WHITE THIS IS WHAT WE ARE DOING TOMORROW

CATAPILLAR STOCK GIVE A COUPLE OF WEEKS WATCH WHAT HAPPENS

No, Iran Central Bank not controlled by US central banks  I; IRAQ STILL A PUPPET OF WESTERN BANK AND WHY WE HAVE BEEN TAUGHT THEM  [Fought them?] BECAUSE WE CANNOT CONTROL THEM  Same with China, Russia. We cannot control them.

 Summary: Martha 30 seconds recap: we're on the cusp of an RV. Iran been reinstated. tomorrow, iraq meeting in N.Y. to finalize a correct rate. everything shold happen very fast. Wednesady onwards.

M: REMEMBER MARTHA;S CALL TOMORROW SAME TIME SAME NUMBER

I: IF HAPPENS TOMORROW STAY CALM GET BEST RATE YOU CAN BE THRILLED WITH THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY PARK IN SAFE PLACES SIT BACK FOR AWHILE

Summary: Iko 30 seconds, I would just add to what Martha said, if this happens tomorrow, or next day: stay level headed, don't be afraid of banker, negotiatate best rate you can, find different ways to park it in safe accords, sit back, have a Blue Moon ...

Iko .. no one has written this script for post RV. smart thing to do: wait and see what happens, act accordingly.

Iko summary on ships: Not going to load the ships in Iran w/o and RI .. they will not let the ships leave the docks w/o and RV!!!!
by Ssmith
on Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:47 pm
 
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1/4/16 Martha

@ssmith wrote:Monday Evening news from Martha:


Good afternoon.Well thanks for updates but point is is that the ptb,again don't want to go down without a battle
Well,China has said "screw you" and now you are going to learn a lesson.I hope it doesn't take too long.

More like China has said "We're screwed."

The big guys who continue to steal from our accounts are done for.
I feel sorry for the innocent people of US but if they had taken blinders off and woken up,this could have been stopped.We all talk about it BUT talk is cheap.


The PTB are doing nothing to stop anything, because nothing is happening for them to stop. Blinders on or off, it does not matter there is nothing to see.



All I can say is be prepared for what maybe total shut down of the US banking and stock market.
Remember we are still in the Shemitah and this past summer/fall,China and the BRICS showed what could happen but I feel they tempered it.Today they are ready to destroy us,so we can rise from the ashes to a new world so to speak.


Not gonna happen. China is on the ropes economically, and seem unable to cope. Their domestic production is down, their exports are down, there is an ongoing purge ... just how bad things are is hard to say, China is still very much a closed society, and all news and media outlets are tightly controlled by the central government. As to the rest of the BRICS, collectively they are nothing but a small time players. They all need us and our money a whole lot more than we need them and their products..


Watch ALL their actions.I saw reference to Reno.Someone asked me why Reno.Almost 2 years ago my business partner spent 3 weeks out there trying to connect with the Admirals group which did not happen.Reno is the home of Wells Fargo currency center for Western US and I believe far East.I also believe San Francisco is another link for the far East as well.Follow the money.


Lie, lie, lie. There are no major offices in Reno, The only office there is a regional office for their mortgage subsidiary.


Wells Fargo has THE contract for the exchange thus I would have to say that there is not an issue with bail - ins at this bank.


Realize that the rates are locked in as of 12-25.Also several months ago an excellent 13 page booklet was on recaps about the BRICS Alliance and the Dragon family and the return of the gold standard.Besides the excellent history,the rates were posted with international,market,and contract.There were those who insisted that this whole booklet was bogus but I must say that it is almost 100 percent point on

[b]I would say those who insisted the booklet was bogus were the ones who were 100% pint on. No Dragons, no Gold Standard and the BRICS alliance is a non starter as a power.

[/b]If you are going to ask my plan about the bail- ins it is very simple.



#1 Wells Fargo to exchange



#2 Don't wait for basket 2 and 3-only international rates and they mat only be a little bit higher than rv - they will be locked and not float.


#3 take contract rates and run!

#4 at this time the collateral world funds have not been fully signed off so I wouldn't sit back and wait.


#5 use non interest bearing accts and don't let them sweep the accts just yet.


#6 we are exchanging asset back to asset back currency.Banks can only use fiat currency for bail ins


#7 protect the money - insure it with cdars,ins policy aka Loyd of London and place under a trust,llc,foundation.


#8 taxes- currency exchanges are tax free events in most states.The dinar is considered an investment currency but is it? Say "NO" you are only exchanging it.Dont get tripped up the banksters.It is NOTB.

Keep it simple.2 years ago,I set a plan in place and I was told to stick to it.As many times,I thought about changing it,I didnt.I just added to it.I am not a greedy person and I  have no desire to play the currency market.I did years ago and lost thousands and over a million with a group that the FBI wouldn't do anything about.


Well that last sentence about sums up the value of your advice and intel. One thing different, the FBI is probably looking at your lying and pumping as we speak.
by Kevind53
on Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:01 pm
 
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1/4/16 Martha

Monday Evening news from Martha:


Good afternoon.Well thanks for updates but point is is that the ptb,again don't want to go down without a battle
Well,China has said "screw you" and now you are going to learn a lesson.I hope it doesn't take too long.
The big guys who continue to steal from our accounts are done for.
I feel sorry for the innocent people of US but if they had taken blinders off and woken up,this could have been stopped.We all talk about it BUT talk is cheap.


All I can say is be prepared for what maybe total shut down of the US banking and stock market.Remember we are still in the Shemitah and this past summer/fall,China and the BRICS showed what could happen but I feel they tempered it.Today they are ready to destroy us,so we can rise from the ashes to a new world so to speak.


Watch ALL their actions.I saw reference to Reno.Someone asked me why Reno.Almost 2 years ago my business partner spent 3 weeks out there trying to connect with the Admirals group which did not happen.Reno is the home of Wells Fargo currency center for Western US and I believe far East.I also believe San Francisco is another link for the far East as well.Follow the money.


Wells Fargo has THE contract for the exchange thus I would have to say that there is not an issue with bail - ins at this bank.


Realize that the rates are locked in as of 12-25.Also several months ago an excellent 13 page booklet was on recaps about the BRICS Alliance and the Dragon family and the return of the gold standard.Besides the excellent history,the rates were posted with international,market,and contract.There were those who insisted that this whole booklet was bogus but I must say that it is almost 100 percent point on
If you are going to ask my plan about the bail- ins it is very simple.


#1 Wells Fargo to exchange



#2 Don't wait for basket 2 and 3-only international rates and they mat only be a little bit higher than rv - they will be locked and not float.


#3 take contract rates and run!

#4 at this time the collateral world funds have not been fully signed off so I wouldn't sit back and wait.


#5 use non interest bearing accts and don't let them sweep the accts just yet.


#6 we are exchanging asset back to asset back currency.Banks can only use fiat currency for bail ins


#7 protect the money - insure it with cdars,ins policy aka Loyd of London and place under a trust,llc,foundation.


#8 taxes- currency exchanges are tax free events in most states.The dinar is considered an investment currency but is it? Say "NO" you are only exchanging it.Dont get tripped up the banksters.It is NOTB.

Keep it simple.2 years ago,I set a plan in place and I was told to stick to it.As many times,I thought about changing it,I didnt.I just added to it.I am not a greedy person and I  have no desire to play the currency market.I did years ago and lost thousands and over a million with a group that the FBI wouldn't do anything about.
by Ssmith
on Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:21 pm
 
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Poof & Zap

POOFness for Sunday Oct 25: The Freedom Song

POOF SAID:
 
The ranks are thinning; many have left the Omega farm and gone to their rewards elsewhere — not bad, not hell, none of that; but have surrendered their bodies and graduated. Yes, do know there is no death, only graduations and new beginnings. 
 
So we are aware of those and plenty of folks need to think about who they want to entrust their inheritance to. It will happen; as we have told you how many times now; it will happen. 

And for many the energies are lowered and they have lost their passion for what these funds are intended. 

 
Stop; pay attention and pick up the mantle once more. I am preaching to the choir here but many are listening… And the troops are just not believing much of the cold war that has been going on in the financial circles for some time now. 
​~~~




It is being overseen and the folk who are hanging in there are doing the work. That we can assure you..

 
The times are harbingers of good tidings and better days for those who have been holding the faith.
 
We are careful about what to say because too much has been said that sounds like it was about the RV — not— we are speaking with Poof for the O program— we find that to be our Number One priority and we continue to tell you those funds are coming through.
 
You’ll be forgiven for doubting but you won’t be forgiven for not utilizing them for the greater good that you will know about.,. No groaning! Just be and listen and be willing to learn and there will be people show up that will be helpful. That is assured…P...
 
 
ZAP SAYS:   HI ALL
 
AN EXCITING WEEK HAS GONE BY WITH THE SIGNING THE GLOBAL RESET INTO REALITY IN RESPECT OF CROSS COUNTRY INVESTMENTS, OTHER MONEY MOVEMENTS, AND THE GENERAL BLACKOUTS AND SECRECY SURROUNDING EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW.
 
I HAD A BIT MORE TIME TO THINK ON THINGS, AND TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THE CURRENT GLOBAL SITUATION OUT THERE.

THE WORK IN FRONT OF ME HAS BEEN A TAD OVERWHELMING, SO FINDING TIME FOR MYSELF HAS BEEN TOUGH SO THIS IS WELCOME…I CAN MUSE A BIT ON WHAT’S OUT THERE…
 
SO LESEE…..THE VISITS BY PRESIDENT XI BORE GOOD FRUIT, AND THE WORLD STAGE IS PRETTY WELL READY FOR WHAT IS TO COME NOW. THE WORK CONTINUES.
 
China, UK sign landmark deals
 
By Wu Jiao and Zhang Chunyan in London ( China Daily )
 
Updated: 2015-10-22 07:38:48
 
Beijing to partly finance $28b major nuclear power plant in Britain to supply electricity to 6 million homes
 
Beijing and London secured deals worth about 40 billion pounds ($62 billion) on Wednesday during President Xi Jinping's first state visit to the UK.
 
According to the British government, the cash generated by the new deals will help to create 3,900 jobs across the UK.
 
I AM A BIT ASTOUNDED THAT THEY ARE GOING TO BUILD YET ANOTHER TICKING RADIATION BOMB, SO I HOPE THEY ARE BUILDING A SALT REACTOR TO BE SAFE. WOULD MAKE MUCH MORE SENSE. WHERE ARE KESHE’S DESIGNS WHEN NEEDED?
 
Hi I have a question for Zap? do you thing we will still see things start up this week? Are we waiting for CL to make an announcement today before things start? Or will the Grandfather go ahead and push the button for the release of things to happen.
 
Also, are there two M1's there was one who did a video awhile back about giving everyone in each country money and paying off all of our debts. He was from Indonesia I thing?
 
 There was a video we saw an it said as of 8/17/2015 we would see a release for funds for each individual. Do you know what happened with that? We really need help I have no job no income and really need a miracle now. SO many people are in dire straight need do you thing this will happen this week still. Please give us some hope if you can. Blessings and Peace  N
 
YES WE WILL SEE THINGS START UP THIS WEEK. IT IS TIME NOW. AND THE ELDERS AND COUNCILS ARE ALL IN AGREEMENT. THE REAL M1 WAS CHOSEN BY THE ROYALS. THE SELF-PROCLAIMED ONE IS THE OPPOSITE.
 
ALL IS ABOUT TO START WORKING. SEND IN YOUR RESUME AS JOBS ARE GOING TO BE HERE, AND IT WILL TAKE A LOT OF US TO GET THE WORK DONE. NO END OF WORK REALLY FOR THE NEXT WHILE.
 
Susan,  How are you? With Zap's Saturday message, has the TRN activation and the GCR been postponed till Monday-Tuesday? Zap had thought it would happen by Sunday night? Thanks so much,  SH
 
WELL, THE OCTOBER 23 DATE HAS COME AND GONE, BUT YES THEY ARE ALL STARTING MONDAY SINCE THE RELEASE OF THE FUNDS LAST WEEK ON THE 23RD.
 
THIS APPEARS TO BE ON TIME AND AS THEY SAID IT WOULD HAPPEN, SO WE CAN EXPECT ALL THE CHANGES TO START NOW. NO BIG DEAL I WOULD SAY AND JUST BE PREPARED. I HAVE FAITH IT IS A NOW THING.
 
Hi Susan and Zap,  We're running out of time before the 26th. The 23rd is a Friday leaving only Saturday and Sunday before Keshe's timetable is up.
 
Harper is out. So they are no longer harping but the opposition is still playing the fiddle with deficit spending. I think it is way overdue for a new program altogether.
 
I am Canadian and most of my relatives live in Canada. Cousins on Victoria Island and in Edmonton and Toronto. Only my sister and I and her family live here in the states. I am single, divorced, no children. Free to make decisions. Get out of Dodji if necessary.
 
Canada is more brainwashed than the states in my opinion. But not by much. The Queen thing always got my folks doing the knee jerk salute. Hile Queenie...
 
Canada would have to change a whole lot before I would ever take up residence there.
 
This is just my opinion. But the necessary confederation of forces including the White Hats, Pentagon, Chinese Family, Military Industrial Complex, European Royals, Vatican, and P2 Lodge are a union of necessity of unlikely bedfellows in order to get the reset done.
 
But in the final analysis, does a leopard ever change his spots?? I think not. Given that the Chinese Royal Family have proven themselves not to be fools, once the reset is done and stabilized (just liking post WWII), different agendas will be at hand. Need I say more.
 
With the coming earth changes that will shake everything up and redraw the world map... who knows. But they must get the reset done publicly before then so that the asset backed finances are in place for the rebuilding process to begin.

This will likely force the one world government to become a reality, even though that may not have been the intent.  Blessings,  G
 
ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS APPRISED OF A LONG TIME AGO, IS THAT WHEN THE EARTH CHANGES COME ALONG AND REDRAW SOME MAPS, THE RESET HAS TO BE DONE AND FUNDS READILY AVAILABLE WITHIN A FINANCIAL SYSTEM THAT CAN RESPOND TO THE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS ALONG WITH THE DISASTER RELIEF ELEMENTS.
 
SO ALL THE EVENTS WE ARE SEEING TAKE PLACE RIGHT NOW ARE IN KEEPING WITH THIS MACRO VIEW OF THE DIVINE PLAN FOR HUMANITY.
 
AGAIN IT IS COMMON SENSE, AND THE DETAILS AND THE DRAMA OF THE TRAUMA THAT HAVE GONE ALONG WITH THIS SEQUENCE OF THE PLAN, ARE INEVITABLE AND WE HAD TO GET THROUGH THEM. AT LEAST WE ARE BEGINNING TO SEE THE RESULTS NOW INSTEAD OF JUST TALKING ABOUT THEM.
 
Hi Zap,  At some point you may read my reply to your Oct 18, 2015 posting. Thanks again for sharing the updates and more importantly for sharing the replies to those I had a small hand in helping.
 
You and maybe one other mentioned around 4 Quad Trillion Dinar has been printed. Can you share any insights how that's going to be handled?  Thanks,  RJ
 
ACTUALLY MORE LIKE 200 QUADRILLION. THE FRENCH PRINTING (OVERPRINT) WAS EXEMPLARY, MERRILY CHURNING OUT SHEET AFTER SHEET OF COLORFUL RED NOTES FOR YEARS.
 
OTHER PRINTINGS ARE A BIT MORE VALID, AND SOUGHT AS REAL FOR THE PRIVATE EXCHANGES. THE OVERPRINT IS BEING ROUNDED UP AND DISPOSED OF IN ANOTHER WAY SO THAT IT DOES NOT IMPACT THE ECONOMIES. CHAOS OTHERWISE.
 
OK, BUILDING UPON THE DISCUSSION OF LAST WEEK ABOUT "UNFUNDED LIABILITIES" AND ALL OF THE PRIVATE CENTRAL BANKS WHO ARE KEEPING THESE ON THEIR BOOKS AS SOME KIND OF "ASSETS" (REMEMBER, IN THIS UPSIDE DOWN WORLD OF FED RES SUPPORTED BANKING - DEBT IS ASSETS)

I HAVE AN INTERESTING STORY ABOUT WHAT JUST HAPPENED YESTERDAY..(THURSDAY, OCTOBER 22ND)...
 
NOW THIS IS HERE IN EASTERN TENNESSEE, BUT IT IS ABSOLUTELY NATIONAL IN SCOPE - AND HOPEFULLY (NOW) INTERNATIONAL....
 
THE STORY:

MY WIFE WORKS FOR A NOT-FOR-PROFIT HEALTH CARE PLAN COMPANY WHICH OFFERS PLANS TO RESIDENTS OF TWO STATES,

ONE OF MANY OF THESE KINDS OF COMMUNITY/SECONDARY/ALTERNATIVE PLAN PROVIDERS THAT CAME INTO BEING UNDER THE AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE ACT - OBAMACARE - AND I BELIEVE THAT THESE EXIST IN AT LEAST 9 STATES OF THE U.S.A.
 
SHE WAS CALLED INTO A MEETING YESTERDAY AND WAS EXPECTING TO HEAR FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE COMPANY ABOUT THE CLOSING OF THE OFFICE IN THE STATE NEXT DOOR.
 
INSTEAD, THE PRESIDENT SAID THAT THE ENTIRE COMPANY WOULD SHUT DOWN IMMEDIATELY AFTER JANUARY 1ST AND WOULD ONLY SERVICE THE FEW ACCOUNTS NEEDING TO PAY MEDICAL PROCEDURES/MEDICATIONS FOR 2015 AS THEY CLOSED THE BOOKS - WITH A SKELETON STAFF.
 
"SORRY GUYS ..... WE'LL TRY TO GET YOU SOME SEVERANCE PAY .... WISH YOU ALL THE BEST....YOU'RE TERRIFIC .....I'LL KEEP WORKING HERE AS LONG AS I CAN TO CLEAN THINGS UP WHILE THEY CLOSE THE DOORS, ETC. ETC. ETC......."

THE NEXT THING HE SAID WAS SO MIND-BOGGLING THAT MY WIFE TOOK IT DOWN WORD-FOR-WORD AND TOLD ME IMMEDIATELY WHEN I SAW HER LAST EVENING..

HE SAID ...."ACCORDING TO NEW RULES THAT CAME OUT TUESDAY NIGHT (OCTOBER 20TH) MONEY OWED TO THE COMPANY BY CONTRACT(S) CANNOT BE COUNTED ON THE BOOKS AS ASSETS!"
 
READ THAT AGAIN ...ABOUT 20 MORE TIMES ....AND LET IT SINK IN.....
 
THE INSURANCE BUSINESS IS TIED-AT-THE-HIP WITH BOTH SECURITIES AND BANKING ...IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S ALL BANKING .......
 
AND NOW IT SEEMS THAT THESE (LOAN/POLICY) CONTRACTS, SOME OF WHICH ARE EXTREMELY COMPLICATED CANNOT BE CARRIED ON THE ASSET SIDE OF THE LEDGER ANY MORE?????
 
WELL, UNLESS THEY COMPLETELY THROW OUT ALL G.A.A.P. (GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES) FOR THE PLANET, THEN "SOMEONE" (THE PTB/RULERS OF THE PLANET/CONTROLLERS OF THE FINANCIAL SYSTEMS?????)

JUST MOVED THESE LOANS/CONTRACTS TO THE LIABILITY SIDE OF THE ACCOUNTING LEDGER - UNLESS, OF COURSE, THEY JUST MADE THEM DISAPPEAR.......
 
WHAT EXACTLY IS AFFECTED BY THESE LOANS/CONTRACTS TO PAY ?
 
ANSWER: MORTGAGES, STUDENT LOANS, CAR LOANS, PERSONAL LOANS, CELL PHONE CONTRACTS, CREDIT CARDS, ETC., ETC. ......
 
..... AND DO YOU REMEMBER THE LESSER KNOWN BROTHER OF THE "CONTRACT TO PAY / LOAN" CALLED THE "PROMISE TO PAY" OR PROMISSORY NOTE? (LOOK AT THE MONEY IN YOUR WALLET, KIDDO'!)
 
AND NOW NONE OF THESE DEBT CONTRACTS ARE ALLOWED TO BE COUNTED AS ASSETS ON PUBLIC (REAL) ACCOUNTING LEDGERS?????
 
IF THIS ISN'T THE "START OF SOMETHING BIG" - THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS.

....LET'S SEE,,,,,,,

( WHEN DID ZAP SAY THAT THE PRESIDENT OF CHINA (ACTING AS AGENT/ATTORNEY FOR A GROUP) SIGNED PAPERWORK WITH QUEEN ELIZABETH (ACTING AS AGENT/ATTORNEY FOR A GROUP) ....???? WAS IT MONDAY OR TUESDAY GMT? )
 
WOW .....WOW....WOW....WOW....WOW.....WOW.....
 
HELP ME, RHONDA - MY BRAIN IS EXPLODING.
 
IF YOU WANT TO HAVE SOME FUN ......TRY CONNECTING THE DOTS TO SEE WHAT THIS NEW "ACCOUNTING/BANKING" PROCESS WILL AFFECT OR EVEN TOUCH......
 
OH..... IF ONLY THE C.P.A.'S DOING ALL OF THE C.A.F.R.'s (CONFIDENTIAL ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORTS) GET THIS MESSAGE AND THE 75% OF THEM THAT ARE COOKING THE BOOKS STRAIGHTEN OUT THE LEDGERS.....OH THAT WOULD BE SWEET... ....AND ON AND ON AND ON ....
 
OK.....I'LL GIVE YOU A FEW DAYS AND WRITE YOU AGAIN TO SEE IF YOUR STILL ALIVE OR JUST BOUNCING OFF THE WALLS....   CHEERS.  T
 
ONE WOULD THINK THAT THE SYSTEM IS BEING RESET TO REFLECT REALITY INSTEAD OF SOME MANUFACTURED (AND REMANUFACTURED) ILLUSION RIGHT? WE SHALL SEE WHAT HAPPENS NOW.

INTERESTING TIMES WE DO LIVE IN.
 
IN THE FOREFRONT OF NEWS, I HAVE JUST LEARNED FROM MANY ALARMED SCIENTISTS AND OTHERS IN RESPECT OF FUKUSHIMA RADIATION CONTAMINATION,

​THAT THE EPA HAS NOW SHUT DOWN ITS RADIOLOGICAL MONITORING EQUIPMENT ACROSS THE USA BECAUSE OF THE EMBARRASSINGLY HIGH LEVELS OF RADIATION.
 
BUT REMEMBER THEY CAN NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE SPREAD OF THE CONTAMINATION IN THE NORTH AMERICAN CONTINENT, SO IF THEY SHUT DOWN THE MONITORING EQUIPMENT, WHAT DOES THAT SAY? WE GET TO GLOW IN THE DARK?
 
HMMMM….IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO HAVE A PERSONAL MONITORING DEVICE LIKE THE RADIATION SATURATION BADGES THEY USE IN NUCLEAR REACTORS FOR THEIR STAFF.
 
I TALKED IT OVER WITH MISS PHIPPS, AND SHE WILL STAY OUT OF SELLING THE GEIGER COUNTERS WITH THE CAR BATTERY POWER ATTACHMENT AS FEDEX WILL NOT TAKE 1OO POUNDS IN AN ENVELOPE
 
INSTEAD, THE WORLD TECHNOLOGY SENATE HAS SOURCED A SIMPLE AND SMALL PERSONAL METER SUITABLE FOR THE PURPOSE.
 
 I AM GETTING A FEW FOR ME AND FRIENDS AND FAMILY ESPECIALLY ON THE COASTLINES.
 
THIS IS WHERE I AM GOING TO GET MINE: 

 
 
ZAP;...IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT THE US. ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY HAS NOW COME TO SHUT DOWN,

​TEMPORARILY OR OTHERWISE, ITS NATIONAL MONITORING EQUIPMENT ACROSS THE UNITED STATES FOR DETECTING RADIATION LEVELS.
 
 MOST WOULD AGREE, SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT, SOMEWHERE.. IT WOULD BE, IS NOW, INCUMBENT UPON ALL AMERICANS TO LOOK TO ACQUIRE RADIATION DETECTION EQUIPMENT.
 
 IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE WTS IS NOW MAKING AVAILABLE FOUR DIFFERENT TYPES OF UNITS, EVEN PEN SIZED, FOR PERSONAL SAFETY. THEY CAN BE REACHED AT: SALES.WTS@MAIL.COM.
 
I ALSO NOW UNDERSTAND THAT THE WTS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE INTERNATIONAL RADIATION ENVIRONMENT ASSESSMENT GROUP OR IREA,

IS IMPLEMENTING A PROGRAM TO BEGIN ENLISTING THE HELP OF FOLKS ALL ACROSS AMERICA WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO TAKE DAILY RADIATION READING, GIVEN THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE SITUATION ACROSS AMERICA.
 
 IF YOU WISH TO VOLUNTEER AS A MONITOR, PLEASE WRITE IREA.WTS@MAIL.COM FOR FURTHER DETAILS.
 
AMERICANS NEED TO BE SENSITIVE TO THIS SITUATION, AS MUCH IS NOT BEING REVEALED TRUTHFULLY AT THIS TIME. WE URGE CAUTION BY ALL. –
 
THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND ATTENTION. FURTHER INFORMATION CAN BE GLEANED AT: WWW.WTSENATES.INFO
 
ANOTHER EVENT (COINCIDENCE?) THAT HAS JUST HAPPENED IS THE GAG ORDER ON GOVERNMENT WORKERS IN THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, THE NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, AND THE US DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE.
 
THIS WAS REPORTED BY:
 
Dane Wigington –  Geoengineeringwatch.org
 
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/government-implements-illegal-gag-order-on-national-weather-service-and-noaa/
 
 THE REFUGEE SITUATION AND ISIS ON THE SIDE SHOW, CONTINUES THE BACK AND FORTH AT THE HIGH LEVEL AS EXEMPLIFIED BY PUTIN TO MUSLIM TURKISH AMBASSADOR: “TELL YOUR DICTATOR PRESIDENT HE CAN GO TO **ALONG WITH…”

http://conservativepost.com/putin-to-muslim-turkish-ambassador-tell-your-dictator-president-he-can-go-to-hell-along-with/

A VERY INCISIVE FRIEND REMARKED THAT:
 
“Moscow is letting everyone in the region know that the terrorism card no longer plays, and that it's much better to get along, to make beneficial progress for all.
 
In this highly charged atmosphere in the Middle East, it is a good thing that cooler heads have prevailed in the White House and the State department, for the war on terror seems to have included, recently, an ongoing power struggle between Mr. Obama and the warhawks in the national security establishment who have, in their track record, only lit the middle East aflame, while accomplishing next to nothing in an actual war against terrorism.”
~~~



​The bottom line? I'm speculating that the message from Moscow and Beijing, privately, and behind the scenes, is that Riyadh and Tehran can either be part of the war on terror for real, or not; they can be cooks in the kitchen, or entrées on the menu...
 
But that, of course, is really high octane speculation. This is one for the "you tell me" category...\
 
THE POLITICAL SIDE IS QUITE HEATED AS THE WAR ON TERROR SITUATION CHUGS ALONG, AND THERE ARE MASSIVE RELIEF EFFORTS BEING READIED TO HELP THE REFUGEES.
 
WITH COOL AND WISE THINKING, BOTH SITUATIONS SHOULD BE RESOLVED ADEQUATELY.
 
WE WILL BE HELPING AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO PROVIDE WATER, FOOD AND ESSENTIALS OF LIFE TO THE REFUGEES, COUPLED WITH AN INITIATIVE TO HELP THE COUNTRIES SPONSORING HELP ALSO GET A BIT OF RELIEF. IT IS NOT AN EASY COST TO BEAR FOR THE COUNTRY THAT HELPS OUT.
 
I COULD NOT FIND THE LINK, BUT STILL HAVE THE EMAIL FOR THIS INFORMATION REGARDING THE LESSER SIDE OF THE SITUATION:
 
Date: 19 October 2015 11:59:31 GMT+01:00
Yesterday, at the hospital we had a meeting about how the situation here and at the other Munich hospitals is unsustainable. Clinics cannot handle emergencies, so they are starting to send everything to the hospitals.
 
Many Muslims are refusing treatment by female staff and, we, women, are refusing to go among those animals, especially from Africa. Relations between the staff and migrants are going from bad to worse. Since last weekend, migrants going to the hospitals must be accompanied by police with K-9 units.
 
Many migrants have AIDS, syphilis, open TB and many exotic diseases that we, in Europe, do not know how to treat them. If they receive a prescription in the pharmacy, they learn they have to pay cash. This leads to unbelievable outbursts, especially when it is about drugs for the children.
 
They abandon the children with pharmacy staff with the words: “So, cure them here yourselves!” So the police are not just guarding the clinics and hospitals, but also large pharmacies.
 
Truly we said openly: Where are all those who had welcomed in front of TV cameras, with signs at train stations?! Yes, for now, the border has been closed, but a million of them are already here and we will definitely not be able to get rid of them.
 
Until now, the number of unemployed in Germany was 2.2 million. Now it will be at least 3.5 million. Most of these people are completely unemployable. A bare minimum of them have any education.
 
What is more, their women usually do not work at all. I estimate that one in ten is pregnant. Hundreds of thousands of them have brought along infants and little kids under six, many emaciated and neglected.
 
 If this continues and German re-opens its borders, I’m going home to the Czech Republic. Nobody can keep me here in this situation, not even double the salary than at home. I went to Germany, not to Africa or the Middle East.
 
Even the professor who heads our department told us how sad it makes him to see the cleaning woman, who for 800 Euros cleans every day for years, and then meets young men in the hallways who just wait with their hand outstretched, want everything for free, and when they don’t get it they throw a fit.
 
I really don’t need this! But I’m afraid that if I return, that at some point it will be the same in the Czech Republic. If the Germans, with their nature cannot handle this, there in Czechia it would be total chaos.
 
Nobody who has not come in contact with them has no idea what kind of animals they are, especially the ones from Africa, and how Muslims act superior to our staff, regarding their religious accommodation.
 
For now, the local hospital staff has not come down with the diseases they brought here, but, with so many hundreds of patients every day – this is just a question of time.
 
In a hospital near the Rhine, migrants attacked the staff with knives after they had handed over an 8-month-old on the brink of death, which they had dragged across half of Europe for three months.
 
The child died in two days, despite having received top care at one of the best pediatric clinics in Germany. The physician had to undergo surgery and two nurses are laid up in the ICU. Nobody has been punished.
 
The local press is forbidden to write about it, so we know about it through email. What would have happened to a German if he had stabbed a doctor and nurses with a knife?
 
 Or if he had flung his own syphilis-infected urine into a nurse’s face and so threatened her with infection? At a minimum he’d go straight to jail and later to court. With these people – so far, nothing has happened.
 
And so I ask, where are all those greeters and receivers from the train stations? Sitting pretty at home, enjoying their non-profits and looking forward to more trains and their next batch of cash from acting like greeters at the stations.
 
If it were up to me I would round up all these greeters and bring them here first to our hospital’s emergency ward, as attendants.
 
Then, into one building with the migrants so they can look after them there themselves, without armed police, without police dogs who today are in every hospital here in Bavaria, and without medical help.
 
Is this situation coming to England?
 
The boarders are not closed in Germany, the authorities just want to organize the migration of 1,000s of migrants coming every day. The Sunday 10 days back alone 17,000 to Bavaria, mostly young man.
 
In the neighbor city I work a whole area is used for a in between stop for the migrants ... I've read today that around the half of the people of Syria is on the flight. So when in 2013 there lived around 30 million people this means around 15 millions is on the way to Europe, the majority to Germany.
 
Now the winter comes, so the pressure increases to provide them all with shelter and food. For the authorities and helpers almost not to handle because of the increasing number of people coming.
 
Besides of this the whole social and cultural system here will collapse in the coming years I'm afraid.
 
The media here is totally controlled by the country because when you publish you need a license. I've also read that they will establish a law where they can put down every protest or critics or YT video regarding to this topic.
 
THIS IS QUITE A CLEAR PICTURE OF A SITUATION THAT HAS BOTH GOOD AND BAD COMING OUT IN ALL ITS SHADES. VERY SAD, AND THERE HAS TO BE FOUND A MECHANISM TO ADDRESS ALL THIS STUFF. THOUGHTS ANYONE?
 
THERE IS THE CURRENT SNAPSHOT OF OUR GLOBAL SITUATION: FUNDS MOVEMENT BEGINS, RADIATION IS EVERYWHERE AND NOBODY WILL TELL YOU HOW HIGH THE LEVELS ARE, REFUGEE SITUATION IS TERRIBLE, AS ARE SOME MANNERS, AND AS THE STOMACH CHURNS IS ON EVERY DAY AT 11.
 
I FOUND A GREAT QUOTE JUST A DAY AGO THAT REALLY PUTS ALL THIS INTO PERSPECTIVE:
 
“It is no measure of good health to be well-adjusted to a sick society.” – Krishnamurti
 
WE ARE ABOUT TO MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE WHEN WE START THE PROJECT SIDE. WE NEED ALL THE ABLE BODIED MEN AND WOMEN TO CARRY OUT THE TASK OF CREATING A BETTER WORLD FOR ALL OF US.

​WE FINALLY HAVE SOME RESOURCES TO BEGIN THIS WORK IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO, AND THE SHORTER THE TIME THE BETTER.
 
IN THE MEANTIME, GREASING THE AXLES OF THIS OX CART IS OUR DAILY CHORE, AND BECAUSE OF YOU THE CART IS ROLLING. SEND MORE GREASE. NO WE WILL NOT USE IT ON THE PIGS.
 
GOD BLESS. LOVE AND HUGS.  IN TRADITIONAL GRATITUDE.   ZAP
 
“GOD IS; I AM; WE ARE”  “BE GOOD, BE LEGAL, TELL TRUTH”
OCTOBER 25, 2015   COPYRIGHT ZAP 2013-2015
 
AND FOR THOSE THAT REQUESTED A CHUCKLE, ONE IS A FEW THINGS TO CONSIDER, THE OTHER IS A BRILLIANT AND FUNNY STEWARDESS:
 
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/TxNrizGdhtY?vq=hd720&rel=0&showinfo=0&start=0&end

 

 Nine Important Facts To Remember As We Grow Older
 
#9 Death is the number 1 killer in the world.
 
#8 Life is sexually transmitted.
 
#7 Good health is merely the slowest possible rate at which one can die.
 
#6 Men have 2 motivations: hunger and hanky panky, and they can't tell them apart. If you see a gleam in his eyes, make him a sandwich.
 
#5 Give a person a fish and you feed them for a day. Teach a person to use the Internet and they won't bother you for weeks, months, maybe years.
 
#4 Health nuts are going to feel stupid someday, lying in the hospital, dying of nothing.
 
#3 All of us could take a lesson from the weather. It pays no attention to criticism.
 
#2 In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird, and people take Prozac to make it normal.
 
#1 Life is like a jar of jalapeno peppers. What you do today may be a burning issue tomorrow.
 
Everybody on the list will be getting their message as soon as our hacked systems come back online. Thank you for the support you have given to keep this newsletter coming. We couldn't do this without your contributions. Please go to paypal.com and send to goneforthfornow@gmail.com.
 
Love and Kisses,  "The Office of Poofness"    Susan, ZAP, and Staff



"The Freedom Song"
 
I picture something is beautiful
It’s full of life and it is all blue
I’ve seen the sunset on the beach, yeah
It makes me feel calm, when I’m calm
 
I feel good
When I feel good I sing
And the joy it brings makes me feel good
And when I feel good I sing
And the joy it brings
 
[Chorus:]
Come on along, I know you really want to feel our song
We've got some life to bring
We've got some joy in this thing
Come on along, I know you really want to feel our song
We've got some life to bring
We've got some joy in this thing
 
I see birds fly across the sky, yeah
And everyone’s heart flies together
Food is frying and people smiling
Like there is no other way...
 
To feel good (good)
and when I feel good I sing (sing)
And the joy it brings makes me feel good (good)
And when I feel good I sing (sing)
And the joy it brings
 
[Chorus:]
Come on along, I know you really want to feel our song
We've got some life to bring
We've got some joy in this thing
Come on along, I know you really want to feel our song
We've got some life to bring
We've got some joy in this thing
 
[Interlude]
 
I feel good
And when I feel good I sing
And the joy it brings makes me feel good
And when I feel good I sing
And the joy it brings
 
It brings me freedom (freedom), woah,
got to get yourself to that freedom
It's freedom
Singing freedom (freedom) woah,
you deserve your freedom
It’s a smile you can keep in your heart
Freedom, woah,
Everybody got to know freedom
Love to feel in it beauty
Freedom, woah,
got to get to someone,
Got to get to someone,
Got to get to someone,
Got to get to someone freedom
Freedom, woah,
everybody know freedom
It's freedom, come on, try to sing
Freedom, woah, everybody got to know freedom
Break it down
 
Get you [x7] that freedom
 
[Chorus:]
Come on along, I know you really want to feel our song
We've got some life to bring
We've got some joy in this this
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ieleCPChW0  
by Ssmith
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Why Does Tony Demand That People Chant Vegas, Vegas, Vegas?

[size=18]Reminds me of every time Tony demands that the caller repeat the TNT Cult Chant.  "Vegas, Vegas, Vegas".[/size]


#8 GROUPSPEAK: “Repetitive phrases, clichés, sayings, platitudes and buzz words are regularly invoked to describe all situations, and prevent further analysis or discussion.”



Key Cult Features
The following characteristics of cults and sects are based upon the cult classification systems of the world’s leading cult experts like, Singer, Langone Lifton and Hassan. An organization doesn’t have to have all of these characteristics to be a cult, and variations on the characteristics are many, it just has to have a good number of them to be a cult or moving in the direction of becoming one. 


[size=18]Recognizing “Groupthink”[/size]
Singer stresses that all cults are based firstly on a thought reform programme. Such programmes aim to dilute people’s individuality, change their core belief systems and alter their concept of themselves. This is done by imposing a “totalistic ideology” which “explains everything” Such groups will say they are “THE WAY”, the “ONLY WAY” be it in religion, science, self-help, psychotherapy or politics. Lifton points out that "included in this mystique is a sense of ‘higher purpose’, of ‘having directly perceived some imminent law of social development’, of being themselves the vanguard of this development" Consequently, all other groups are charlatans, shams, impostors, degenerate, etc. Normally they have authoritarian leaders and lieutenants at all levels and/or they venerate the works of dead leaders to justify their totalistic ideology and actions. Not choosing the group’s Way will usually lead to humiliation, damnation or death. To achieve this they such a phenomenon members undergo what has been called “brainwashing”, “mind control” in order to achieve  Groupthink”. 


 Below are some key techniques used for achieving this:  

[size=18]Vulnerability[/size]
1) The cult relies on the vulnerability and naivety of the person, who is unaware of the indoctrination process being used. Most cult members are from the educated middle class, including lawyers, doctors, psychologists, business people etc. A good proportion, though not all come from dysfunctional families and/or suffer alcohol or drug problems. In general, new members are usually undergoing a personal crisis and are easy prey for all-embracing solutions. They are then pressurized to gradually adjust to their environment so subtlety, that they don’t notice the changes to themselves or, indeed, when they do, they view those changes as positive ones. From the beginning they are unwittingly seduced into replacing their own beliefs and values with those of the group and persuaded that their everything about their former lives, personality and character before joining the group was worthless and degenerate.  

[size=18][size=18]Powerlessness[/size]
2) A regime exists where the individual feels a sense of powerlessness and helplessness and the lack of other alternatives, under an authoritative or authoritarian system. A member is told they will be destroyed or corrupted by negative pressures and that they can maintain their purity within the groups ranks.  [/size]


[size=18]Uncertainty[/size]
3) 3) Cults prey on human aversion to uncertainty. The group supplies ready made answers for everything, thus helping to reduce insecurity and fear. Everything is seen in terms of black and white, pure and the impure, good and evil. There are set answers for everything and no room for uncertainty, controversy, healthy debate or doubt. The member is given a complete solution. In return, members of the group are expected to be unquestioning in their commitment to the group’s identity, its ideas and leaders (or past leaders).
 
[size=18][size=18]Environmental & Time Control[/size]
4) The group asserts increasing control over a member’s time and social and psychological environment. Members are expected to attend many meetings and involve themselves in other activities, reducing their contact with the outside world. Members may be directly encouraged to break relations and social contact with former friends, acquaintances and even loved ones. Gradually, it becomes more and more difficult for members to imagine a life outside their organization.  

[size=18]Mentoring[/size]
5) Other group members work in meetings and on a private basis to undermine new members’ confidence in their own perceptions and opinions. A personal mentor may be appointed to accelerate integration and mind control. Bad feelings are always the fault of the person and not the group. Only "good" and "proper" thoughts are encouraged and “negative” thinking is jumped on. Members are to report their thoughts, feelings and activities to the group or their mentor. They are expected to ask permission when taking any major decisions in their lives and sometimes minor ones, making them less and less able to think or decide for themselves or function without the group. A person’s ego is destroyed, they begin to doubt their own judgment and soon there is a loss of free will.
 

[size=18]Reward & Punishment[/size]
6) Within cults there is immense pressure to conform. They use a combination of flattery, threats and guilt. A system of punishments and rewards is used to encourage group learning and reduce unwanted behavior. Punishments like isolation, shunning, “tut-tuts” and humiliation are used to cause fear and obedience, while, alternatively, recognition, praise and “strokes” are sparingly awarded by older members for obedience and loyalty to Groupthink by the newer ones. [/size]


 [size=18]Self-flagellation[/size]
7) Group meetings often include confessional sessions where members admit to past or present sins against the norms of the group - doing bad deeds, thinking bad thoughts, etc, and in return, they receive both admonition, warnings and praise for their confessions. To help cultivate emotional control public exhibitions of emotional highs and lows are often encouraged and applauded as a form of ritual self-flagellation.    

[size=18]Group-speak[/size]
8) Groupspeak” is another feature of all cults. Groups use what Lifton calls "the thought-terminating cliché”. [size=18]Repetitive phrases, clichés, sayings, platitudes and buzz words[/size] [size=18]are regularly invoked to describe all situations, and prevent further analysis or discussion[/size][size=18].[/size] Any disagreements are usually settled by referring to the sayings or writings of wise leaders (past or present), rather than by turning to independent analysis. Members are rewarded for their ability to regurgitate this “Groupspeak” and for their willingness and talent for putting down dissenters with cult clichés. Lifton argues that the effect of is critical to mind control “since language is so central to all human experience, .. capacities for thinking and feeling are immensely narrowed" Moreover, the “secret vocabulary” reinforces the idea of distance from the outside world.  

[size=18]Cloning[/size] 
9) Cults "clone" people into smaller versions of the cult leader(s) and members. Visiting a branch of the same cult in Toronto or Tokyo will find yourself in the presence of the same “person” or type. Cults rob people of their individuality, personality and uniqueness and replaces it with the cult “Self”, which implants a cult personality in place of the person’s real self.    

[size=18]Falsification[/size]
10) Not content with creating a false conception of the present, cults are also not adverse to rewriting history also. Whenever historical fact or the truth doesn’t fit in with the cult leaders’ designs and aspirations, they simply change it. As Lifton says “past historical events are retrospectively altered, wholly rewritten, or ignored, to make them consistent with the doctrinal logic” The new line “simply replaces the realities of individual experience..."  

[size=18]Lies & Deceit [/size]
11) The cult leader(s) is prepared is to lie blatantly and obscenely about other individuals or organizations, with total disregard for the truth or any sense of moral objectivity. A frequent tactic by cult leaders is to avert attention from their own sins by accusing others inside or outside their organization of crimes for which they themselves are guilty. Only those who are group members are truly good, sane, wise or sober. Since members loose the faculty of critical judgment and the ability to think for themselves, they never question the lies and distortions of their leader(s). Members feel total loyalty to those who have “saved them” and follow in blind obedience.    

[size=18]Veneration[/size]
12) Leading figures, either alive or dead, are honored and venerated. Statements are often supported by quotations and sayings from sacred writings or speeches. Predictions of catastrophe or damnation are common. This can be anything from Armageddon, to madness, persecution or alcoholic/drug relapse. Very frequently those who have come from crisis situations are warned that leaving the group will bring certain relapse.   

[size=18]Undemocratic Reality[/size]
13) The direction of the group comes from a shadowy leadership, rarely seen and with little or no real democratic controls. There are assurances about the democratic character of the group and its strident democratic checks and procedures. Indeed, on paper the cult may appear to be super democratic, but in practice everything is run by leader(s) and cliques and committees, and committees within committees, picked from the chosen few and frequently made up of the same people. The cult uses a closed system of logic, where no feedback is allowed and revisions are only made by higher authorities. Leaders often amass personal power, often including wealth and sexual favors.  

[size=18]Mystique & Mission[/size]
14) Cults often have an internal aura of mystique in which members feel they have “a sense of ‘higher purpose’, of ‘having directly perceived some imminent law of social development’, of being themselves the vanguard of this development" (Lifton) This includes delusions about historical roles, being “chosen ones”, the “vanguard” “pioneers” and leading new, mass social, political, religious or scientific movements. This gives a sense of purpose in life, for members who entered feeling their life had no meaning or goal.  

[size=18]Disturbed Gurus[/size]
15)   Cult leaders are often charming, charismatic figures with above average intelligence. The charismatic charmer is one their personalities – a pseudo-personality -  Many suffer from borderline, disassociate or multiple personality disorders. Members feel honored to be with, and be seen, around them. But their personality can change dramatically in a flash. Cult leaders are always very disturbed individuals. They are usually victims turned persecutor, having a history of involvement in other social, political or religious cults and/or suffering the effects of a traumatic childhood. Behind their strong and confident exterior (pseudo-personality) they need their leader position to compensate for a very fragile sense of self-worth, self-esteem and self-identity. This is also shown be the fact that they cannot "hack it" in the real world and need to live in a cult/sect environment to live out their problems. Their past histories show social marginality and a tendency to drift from one cause to another, one cult to another, one job to another, one marriage to another, etc. They spend their lives dedicated to their cause (increasing through the Internet, also now). They are obsessive-compulsive, fanatical and manipulative. Nothing will stand in the way of their visions, schemes and self-glorification - not even the well-being of their partners or children. They manipulate the minds of vulnerable members, extorting money and sexual favors and/or abusing them psychologically, physically and/or sexually


http://www.sossobriety.org/cults.htm
by Ssmith
on Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:11 pm
 
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