Re: Wiley Morgan of Gen64 on Skype Chat Friday Night ~ Updated 6/10

by **ReapAndSow73** Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:04 am

I encouraged TRADE to just drop the topic a while ago, but he persisted.

Pride cometh before the fall.

TRADE is convinced in his own mind that we don't have all of the details for this bank, 'deal,' and that we'll soon be witness to how brilliant Studley/Wiley/KC/Gen64 really are on behalf of 60K anonymous emailers. Those poor thousands who showed up to large meetings - with bank reps present - they just didn't understand the con game. Interestingly enough - Studley (RIP), Gen64, KC, Wiley...all fled the scene of the crime, no longer the pointy end of the spear on this amazing bank deal. Funny how those things happen when the heat is on

Methinks we'll find out about indictments before this bank deal comes to fruition - because, you know, the RV is a fictitious event, and there is no bank deal.

Can't wait!

by **Purpleskyz** Fri Jun 10, 2016 11:16 am

I used to run "boiler rooms" before they renamed them telemarketing rooms for many years. All of the contacts we were able to bring to the table.... well that info was sold over and over again. Most "companies" that buy this info would pay 25 to 50 cents per name. I wonder how much Gen64 and FPC gets? Times 60k over and over... nice little income just right there. Now that in itself is not even considered criminal... just a real nice income. So many ways to make money off of the unconscious ones.

by **GypZ** Fri Jun 10, 2016 1:38 pm

THE IRAQ DINAR IS OPERATING AT A SACTIONED RATE..AND NOT OPERATING WELL ON THAT RATE AT ALL MAY I ADD.......REAP AND SOW ..YOU DON'T KNOW THAT???Please look around at all the other countries in the middle east and for once in your life acknowledge you are not in THE KNOW !!!!!!WHY IS IT THAT EVERYWHERE I LOOK EVERYONE SEEMS TO KNOW IT ALL!...........I LISTEN TO NO ONE BUT MYSELF....AND MY OWN CONCLUSIONS....REAP AND SOW,GO BLOW YOUR HORN OF ASSUMPTIONS OVER YONDER DER! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!......YOU MAKE NO SENSE!...TO THE SENSIBLE.!....FICTATIOUS IS WHAT ?.Your post does not give enough information a speaks i assumptions just like a GURU!

by **TNTBS** Fri Jun 10, 2016 8:40 pm

GypZ wrote:THE IRAQ DINAR IS OPERATING AT A SACTIONED RATE..AND NOT OPERATING WELL ON THAT RATE AT ALL MAY I ADD.......REAP AND SOW ..YOU DON'T KNOW THAT???Please look around at all the other countries in the middle east and for once in your life acknowledge you are not in THE KNOW !!!!!!WHY IS IT THAT EVERYWHERE I LOOK EVERYONE SEEMS TO KNOW IT ALL!...........I LISTEN TO NO ONE BUT MYSELF....AND MY OWN CONCLUSIONS....REAP AND SOW,GO BLOW YOUR HORN OF ASSUMPTIONS OVER YONDER DER! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!......YOU MAKE NO SENSE!...TO THE SENSIBLE.!....FICTATIOUS IS WHAT ?.Your post does not give enough information a speaks i assumptions just like a GURU!

Sorry darling...The IMF as part of the rebuilding of Iraq is monitoring their finances and for this purpose uses a single rate (not a sell/buy) of 1180 dinars per dollar. This "program rate" is used for calculations in the IMF monitoring program and is not a rate imposed on Iraq by the IMF.

In response to the growing concerns with fraud and scams related to investment in the Iraqi dinar, State agencies such as Washington state,
Utah, Oklahoma,Alabama and others have issued statements and releases warning potential investors. Further alerts have been issued by news agencies.
The Better Business Bureau has included Dinar Investments in its list of top 10 scams. FACT

by **Sam I Am** Fri Jun 10, 2016 10:38 pm

Here's a good list to consider. https://iraqcurrencywatch.com/scam-5313/

by **RamblerNash** Sat Jun 11, 2016 1:05 am

Sam I Am wrote:Here's a good list to consider. https://iraqcurrencywatch.com/scam-5313/

That's a great list Sam!

by **ReapAndSow73** Sat Jun 11, 2016 7:07 am

GypZ wrote:THE IRAQ DINAR IS OPERATING AT A SACTIONED RATE..AND NOT OPERATING WELL ON THAT RATE AT ALL MAY I ADD.......REAP AND SOW ..YOU DON'T KNOW THAT???Please look around at all the other countries in the middle east and for once in your life acknowledge you are not in THE KNOW !!!!!!WHY IS IT THAT EVERYWHERE I LOOK EVERYONE SEEMS TO KNOW IT ALL!...........I LISTEN TO NO ONE BUT MYSELF....AND MY OWN CONCLUSIONS....REAP AND SOW,GO BLOW YOUR HORN OF ASSUMPTIONS OVER YONDER DER! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!......YOU MAKE NO SENSE!...TO THE SENSIBLE.!....FICTATIOUS IS WHAT ?.Your post does not give enough information a speaks i assumptions just like a GURU!

Go look at the hundred of posts I've made explaining M1 money, trade deficits, the history of redenominations, and how central banks deal with, 'program rates.'

You're certainly entitled to your opinion...but any, 'investor' who only listens to themselves is also known as, 'Broke.'

by **Kevind53** Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:09 am

M1 and other such things aside, from a simple, practical standpoint, it makes no difference what the value of the dinar is. Oil is sold in petro dollars, but even if it were not, the price would be adjusted proportionally to the value of the currency payment was made. Same thing for imports. Investors, (real investors, not currency speculators,) care about two things, risk and return on investment. Even Forex traders don't give a rat's ass what the value is per se, again they are focused on risk and rate of return. The only what value enters into the formula is considering whether a currency is under or over valued, and how likely it is to gain or lose value. These are not assumption, but facts of life in equities markets, whether trading in stocks, bonds, futures, commodities, precious metals, currency etc.

The biggest issues right now for Iraq are the various security issues, corruption and sectarian division. Things are better, but still bad, They are preparing for a new bond issue. My guess is they will have a hard time selling them IF they sell at all. No one would touch them last year, and their bond rating is even lower than it was last year when they could not sell any. Unless they offer considerably better rates than the 10% they offered last year, I will be surprised if they sell. Again the value of the dinar is meaningless, last years bonds were "euro bonds" denominated in USD and they still did not sell as investors did not feel the return was enough to justify the risk.

by **RamblerNash** Sun Jun 12, 2016 11:46 am

I looks like the leadership, that TRADE represented, wasn't very happy with his very poor performance here at Dinar Daily.

TRADE brought more attention to the issues of fraud that "The Group" presented over the years.

There was 1 question that was asked that only needed a yes or no answer, but he deflected and tried to move the focus to something other than "The Group".

The more TRADE insisted to go after the other guru's was a red flag.

TRADE has indicated that he has information and that we are only scratching the surface, knowing that folks are losing their homes, cars, etc.., yet remains silent about it.

Help folks get out of the scam vs. saving their own A$$? Must be a tough choice?

When you see these so called Guru's stumble, stammer, and trip up all over themselves, that should tell you that they have something to hide.

Ask questions, and when they don't give you a direct answer or try to avoid it, there's your clue!

by **Purpleskyz** Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:25 pm

HERE IS YET ANOTHER ONE OF GENERAL64'S GROUP AFFILIATIONS

VFI GLOBAL

http://yourvfiglobal.com

CARE TO COMMENT ON THIS ONE TRADE????

by **Purpleskyz** Tue Jun 14, 2016 9:06 am

crickets...

by **RamblerNash** Thu Jun 16, 2016 3:31 am

Purpleskyz wrote:HERE IS YET ANOTHER ONE OF GENERAL64'S GROUP AFFILIATIONS

VFI GLOBAL

http://yourvfiglobal.com

CARE TO COMMENT ON THIS ONE TRADE????

I doubt that TRADE will want to comment.

From the whois:

Wiley Morgan of Gen64 on Skype Chat Friday Night ~ Updated 6/10 - Page 12 Yourvf10

http://www.whois.com/whois/yourvfiglobal.com

Just from the address, Txxxxx & Bxxxxxx Kxxx are the owners at that address. ( Real names "x'd" out )

No Alice can be found anywhere living in Georgia.

The phone number provided is to a sprint cell phone.

This is not how a Bank would set up a domain name.

From the website, there are numerous red flags.

Wiley Morgan of Gen64 on Skype Chat Friday Night ~ Updated 6/10 - Page 12 Yourvf11

No Bank that is doing official business is going to use a GMAIL address as a contact. They have their own domain names and will use their own mail server with their domain for email correspondence.

Wiley Morgan of Gen64 on Skype Chat Friday Night ~ Updated 6/10 - Page 12 Yourvf12

High contract rate? Really?

This site just wreaks of SCAM!

by **Purpleskyz** Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:00 am

Thanks Nash!

:tup:

by **Chaz** Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:18 am

It doesn't look like to me anyone connected to the dinar is honest,its that simple. There should be no arguments about it the dinar Revaluation is a scam from the beginning,including the General 64 group!

by **RamblerNash** Tue Jun 21, 2016 12:44 am

More information on the Financial Prosperity Club and their Scam here:

https://www.dinardaily.net/t54839-are-you-a-member-of-financial-prosperity-club-or-gen64

by **Chaz** Tue Jun 21, 2016 2:55 am

It does appear that the General ,64 group is now a defunct group, in my own opinion, I believe now beyond a shadow of doubt not only the people involved in putting this group together are scammers, but the whole dinar revaluation was a scam from the beginning. It is obvious to me ,it is why I got out of it! Now that there is more evidence ,I suggest that everyone who believes the truth start making your reports to the FBI, & other government agencies, & get involved in putting these scammers in prison, before there is more damage done, meaning to your friends, your neighbors, your families. So you got scammed, we all did! Get over it, start doing the right thing.
Sincerely blessings Charles

by **Purpleskyz** Tue Jun 21, 2016 11:39 am

:tup:

by **RamblerNash** Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:56 am

Hey TRADE,

They didn't buy your BS at IQDChat either...

https://www.dinardaily.net/t55334-generals64-iqdchat-with-trade-and-wiley-morgan-retired

by **GypZ** Thu Jun 23, 2016 10:37 am

ACTUALLY IQD CHAT LOOKS LIKE IT DIED ...NO ONE'S EVEN POSTED FOR 2 DAYS STRAIGHT NOW..LOL......'''Oh''' Tangled web they weave when first they practice to deceive.:tup: Wiley Morgan of Gen64 on Skype Chat Friday Night ~ Updated 6/10 - Page 12 Spider-girl-in-web-animated-gif-clr

Wiley Morgan of Gen64 on Skype Chat Friday Night ~ Updated 6/10 - Page 12 Spider-girl-in-web-animated-gif-clr

by **Ssmith** Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:33 pm

Maybe this can be a conversation starter..... Is PINK really a good color for TRADE to wear?

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Wiley Morgan of Gen64 on Skype Chat Friday Night ~ Updated 6/10 - Page 12 Cl5MPXcUYAAh81v

by **RamblerNash** Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:02 am

RamblerNash wrote:

Isn't "Promo Code" another name for "Affiliate Program" i.e. "Commission"

https://www.dinardaily.net/t55926-dinar-dealers-sponsoring-dinar-sites-who-would-of-thought

by **Chaz** Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:30 am

It's all a mafia, it may be legal, but what does the mafia do these days, they try to stay legit, although I believe some of them are in this game too.

by **Chaz** Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:13 pm

Just looked at my email ,Nick sent me, Ty the owner of Dinar Corp just pleaded guilty on fraud, I guess Trade was telling another story about how the government was going to let him do business,& take care of all the Sterling back business for there fraudulent reserves, yep sounds like the guru mafia is going down one by one, I would say that now Ty is finished it's just a matter of time that the rest of the dealers will be facing a grand jury in the near future.
Hopefully we can finally put this dinar scam to rest.

by **Ssmith** Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:47 pm

I sure do miss Trade.

by **Ssmith** Mon Sep 05, 2016 3:21 pm

The Gen64 group still remains a hot topic of conversation in Dinarland.

by **Chaz** Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:33 pm

The general 64 group is urban legends now, NO one has stepped up to the plate, to bring any kind of authority nor bring any evidence that it still or ever did exist , how long ago has it been? Years ,some of the people that signed up are in the grave, how can you put together a group like that not knowing which way Iraq is going to turn? Actually they would be better off with a dictator, they have no clue of what the meaning of a democratic government is .

by **RamblerNash** Sun Nov 06, 2016 1:19 am

Ssmith wrote:Maybe this can be a conversation starter..... Is PINK really a good color for TRADE to wear?

I wonder what TRADE did for Halloween this year?

by **Chaz** Sun Nov 06, 2016 4:56 am

Now that the ideal of the General 64 group is defunct ,the Admiral group is on the front page of the gurus, but it's the same urban legend guru tales from the crypt, IF there where any kind of paper trail, that could prove any of these groups existed, something tangible, other than hear say, even a contract as done in the real world , It would have some validity ,but coming just from a lying guru to start with is meaningless.

by **RamblerNash** Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:17 am

Are you still around TRADE? LOL

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https://www.dinardaily.net/t65474-wells-fargo#315651

by **Chaz** Thu Jul 20, 2017 8:54 am

Let's open this door wide open,Trade your a con artist !! You claim you went to churches for to just scam the innocent, I'm looking for you, & will have you put in jail for your crime.

by **Ssmith** Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:30 pm

WAZZUP TRADE???? Welcome Back!

by **Chaz** Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:32 pm

Well, Trade, I'm not hiding behind anything ,especially a computer, all i have is a smart phone, lol,,, I probably would have a computer & more if I hadn't have listen to your baloney years ago, Nevertheless I managed to get something in return, but the above post by Reap pretty well explain who you are, with out name calling, as you did to me on the PM, LOL,,,,! I must have hit a nerve, lol,,,, any how what suffering you have caused people will catch up with you. I'm not the one who caused all this, I'm not the one who years ago hype a RV as you & general 64 did. And now your little scam has had a domino effect, still ruining peoples lives.
So call me anything you want as long as it makes you feel better, ok?

by **Chaz** Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:38 pm

Trade, got nothing to say to you , you call me names , you expect me to swing at your curve balls,the post above from Reap says it all, if calling me names makes you feel better by all means go ahead.
Read the archives here, I'm not the only one, that feels or lets say knows what your group, general 64 has done, I have asked corporate Wells Fargo about the dinar & your 64 group, I believe them , meaning the bank , if you can produce documents from them, then put it up on this site, but they just don't want to be bothered by my emails anymore.
They pointed out how ridiculous this whole RV, & the 64 group is , because they never heard of you , meaning if I can't get that point in my brain by now, then i am stupid in there minds.
So Trade like I said call me every name in the book, what ever tricks your trigger, its not going make any difference to me

by **RamblerNash** Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:47 pm

Well hello TRADE!

We see you lurking. You can't be here to get the latest on the Guru intel that you say is a bunch of crap. LOL

Ready to go for some more rounds debunking the whole Gen64 scheme?

How are those folks doing these days that you claim to have countersigned some of those documents? LOL Are they still employed at Wells Fargo?

How is that special KcMana Wells Fargo Database holding up to the new format? Has/Is anyone left in the leadership contacted Wells Fargo to keep it compatible? LOL

Do you have anymore meeting places that you want to disclose so that I can look up the building occupancy to show your so full of shit with the attendance numbers?

Do those MOU's cover the "ZIM"? <--- I'm joking with you! SMILE!

What's the statute of limitations on those documents you claim to have countersigned?

Is Wiley still working for the telephone company?

Do those pieces of paper you call "Documents" say anything about the Lower Denomination Notes?

Got any more wild outlandish claims about Iraq is going to "RV" rather soonish?

Can you provide any proof of your claims concerning any of the documentation or is it just for the unsuspecting gullible folks who lap this stuff up so they can continue to hope and pray for this super secret insider trader knowledge the Gen64 leaders promoted that continues to fall flat year after year?

Since you and your former group claimed an "RV", have you figured out that Iraq doesn't need to change the rate at all? Have you done the math on the money supply vs. the reserves yet?

Care to make a few comments on the video we did last month?

by **Ponee** Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:03 pm

To get the FULL SCOOP on this THREAD make sure you read all the pages..... Click on page --->

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1, to start at the beginning

by **RamblerNash** Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:31 pm

Peek - A - Boo!

We See You TRADE!

Does Wiley still pull on your leash?

LMAO!!!

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by **RamblerNash** Sun May 20, 2018 6:40 pm

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Another One Bites the Dust

Wiley Morgan of Gen64 on Skype Chat Friday Night ~ Updated 6/10 - Page 12 Animat10

https://www.dinardaily.net/t73366-intel4u-another-one-bites-the-dust-sweet-queen

by **Ponee** Sun May 20, 2018 9:19 pm

Wiley always lands on his feet. There will be another site for him soon probably.

by **ReapAndSow73** Sun May 20, 2018 9:31 pm

There was never a list, never a WF deal, it was a ruse...scam...

by **RamblerNash** Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:58 pm

6/10/
Posted by Camdoc at WSOMN:

Wiley Morgan of Gen64 on Skype Chat Friday Night

This long Skype chat was disturbing to those of us who have drunk the WSOMN koolaid and expect to RV any day now. I encourage you to consider what Wiley says, and to FEEL the veracity of what he has to say. I found that Wiley's statements did not have the same feeling that I get from hearing Tank or Joseph or many others on WSOMN. That could be, as someone said, because I am addicted to the hopium. Or, it could be that what he says is true, and I just don't want to hear it. Or, it could be that he is telling us his version of the truth, and it is a reality removed from the reality and the truth that I live in. Contemplate it yourselves, and decide for yourself what to believe, and what to do about it.

We dug into Dr. Ecklund's background and we found things he hadn't told the Sussers. This is the document in which the state of Alabama revoked his medical license in 2005. The State Medical Commission said Dr. Ecklund admitted that he:

- Prescribed controlled substances to a patient with whom he was having sex

- Prescribed controlled substances to a patient who he knew was a drug addict

- And had sexual experiences with young female children

Wiley Morgan of Gen64 on Skype Chat Friday Night ~ Updated 6/10 - Page 12 Scree116

https://www.dinardaily.net/t76993-for-philip-tilton-found-dan-for-you-it-s-camdoc

by **Ssmith** Wed May 18, 2022 6:15 pm

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