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Confirmed ZIM Sovereign Rate - Update #7 - November 9, 2016

Confirmed ZIM Sovereign Rate - Update #7 - November 9, 2016


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Confirmed VND Sovereign Rate Update - Wednesday - November 9, 2016


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Confirmed ZIM Sovereign Rate Update #2 - Wednesday - November 9, 2016


1 ZIM = 34,000 USN+


Humanitarian Projects and Job Creation Presentations a must to get the top sovereign rates.


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Confirmed ZIM Sovereign Rate Update - Wednesday - November 9, 2016


1 ZIM = 33,000 USN+

Humanitarian Projects and Job Creation Presentations a must to get the top sovereign rates.


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Confirmed ZIM Sovereign Rate -Update #5 - Tuesday - November 8, 2016 @ 11:36pm


1 ZIM = 32,500 USN+

Face value redemption.

You can request any number up to the sovereign screen rate.

Redeemers with humanitarian projects and job creation plans will be seen more favorably by the banks.

Release is to be anytime after US election polls have closed on West Coast Tuesday into Wednesday evening.

Look for an email entitled TETELESTAI for all relevant information post release.

Best of luck to everyone.

God is with us.



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Confirmed ZIM Sovereign Rate - Update #4 - Tuesday - November 8, 2016



1 ZIM = 31,000 USN+

Face value redemption.

You can request any number up to the sovereign screen rate. 

Redeemers with humanitarian projects and job creation plans will be seen more favorably by the banks.

Release is to be anytime after US election polls have closed on West Coast Tuesday into Wednesday evening.

Look for an email entitled TETELESTAI for all relevant information post release.

Best of luck to everyone.

God is with us.



Posted by enerchi at 11/08/2016 05:46:00 PM

Thanks to: http://www.ascensionwithearth.com
by Purpleskyz
on Wed Nov 09, 2016 7:29 pm
 
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Topic: Confirmed ZIM Sovereign Rate - Update #7 - November 9, 2016
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Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of November 9, 2016

Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of November 9, 2016

3:40:00 AM  Intel, News  
Restored Republic via a GCR Update as of Nov. 9 2016

Compiled in the early morning hours of 9 Nov. 2016 by Judy Byington, MSW, LCSW, ret, Author, "Twenty Two Faces," www.22faces.com, CEO, Child Abuse Recovery www.ChildAbuseRecovery.com

A. Nov. 8 2016 Bruce's The Big Call:

1. The Paris Agreement (that contains the GCR) has been implimented. The IMF made the announcement in Iraq over the weekend. Websites such as the UN are showing the GCR.

2. Large traunchs of monies have been transferred since a week ago last Mon Oct. 31 2016.

3. Paymasters out West have all been paid.

4. Everyone is waiting for the Tier 4 (Internet Group) to go.

5. Zim redeemers will be exchanged first.

6. On Sat. Nov. 5 2016 bonds were out. Last night the bonds went on sale and will conclude around midnight tonight.

7. After Iraq gets paid and the lower denominations are out, we get paid.

8. Tomorrow in Iraq two hours after morning prayers, the lower denominations will be out. Celebrations are planned in Iraq for tomorrow afternoon.

9. The Dinar continues to go up in value. Rates are higher than we ever imagined. The Zim rate is in the large 5 figures.

10. For the higher rates you need a business plan that summarizes and outlines the humanitarian projects you plan.

B. Nov. 8 2016 Update: Confirmed ZIM Sovereign Rate - Update #4 - Tuesday - November 8, 2016

1. Redeemers with humanitarian projects and job creation plans will be seen more favorably by the banks and can request any number up to the sovereign screen rate.

2. Face value redemption 1 ZIM = $32,500.00 USN+.

3. Release is to be anytime after US election polls have closed on West Coast on Tues. Nov.8 into Wed. Nov. 9 evening.

4. Look for an email entitled TETELESTAI for all relevant information post release.

C. Nov. 8 2016 TNT Chat:

LilyPad: Last week I reported to you that IQD had fallen from 1165 to 1160. It is now 1159. I am watching it daily as I have it programmed on my phone. Something is happening!

9Ball: A Dr. friend (who hasn't been right yet) just told me his high-up contact said we will have 800 #'s by Saturday.

GoRVing: Liz.Cayman just said on Fox B that we need to watch currency. Banks across the nation are loading up with personal on exchange desk due to major currency swings they believe are coming.

D. Nov. 8 2016 WingIt Call with Gerry Maguire, IKO:

No intel today but voting irregularities have been reported in several states.

E. Nov. 8 2016 TNT GS13: All is well. Don't be concerned about the election results and don't waste your energy worrying. It will all work out for good as part of a plan. The end is in sight - what we've all been waiting for. Much will be revealed soon. All you Chosen People will soon be able to go out and change the world. God bless you for hanging on and not giving up. It's been a bumpy ride, though I'm thankful for the journey.

F. Nov. 8 10:25 EST AdminBill:

1. Some claim the RV will be tonight, while others say later and even others say it will go into 2017.

2. The Global Financial Reset (GFR) is the world's response, or push back, against a cabal of powerful elite who've sought to undermine and control humanity. We've witnessed this Cabal fight to retain their power and influence and speculated for years how we'd recognize the completion of the currency revaluation process.

3. Dinarians have spent years trying to study this process to restore individual and national sovereignty.

4. As a near perfect reflection of ideals embodied in GESARA, the global Paris Agreement on Climate Change treaty just went in to force.

5. Global collateral accounts established for this time in human history are being readied for release in a way that the Powers That Be (PTB) can't benefit from them. Events seem to be reaching a crescendo.

6. So who are these PTBs that have enslaved humanity with debt? We're learning a lot from both governmental and non-governmental sources about these folks and their intricate, intimate network of co-conspirators. The extent of the corruption in both our government and the Presidential Election is becoming clear thanks to Wikileaks' email dumps.

G. Nov. 8 2016 1:25 am EST: Bonus Restored Republic Report -- November 8, 2016

H. Nov. 8 2016 3am EST: Two Private Rothschild Corporations: United States of America, Inc and The Russian Federation

I. Summary of Events Nov. 8 2016: Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of November 8...

J. Arrest Warrants: "Oral Reading of Arrest Warrants" - Anonymous Guest Post

K. The Cabal Fight: "Let The Battle Begin" - Neil Keenan Update - 11.8.16

L. We are now a Bananna Republic: Bill Holter, Jim Sinclair Interview Greg Hunter and Vice Versa

M. Nov. 8 2016 12:44 am EST Venz: "Clues" - Guest Post by Venz

1. LadyIrish: "RayRen just said he expected this was his last call for preparation and thanked everybody that has helped on the site! He thinks this is our week!" http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/when-ray-signed-off-today-thoughts-from.html?m=1

2. ZAP: "The funds will begin this week, election or no election. Our purpose is to get the reconstruction projects up and running regardless of who is in office.Paperwork is completed. Accounts were set up. Money has moved. Agreements by and between the Royals and governments have been finalized and are about to take effect. I would think that the RV and redemptions of Historic assets will begin now the conclusion of these milestone events." http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/youll-never-walk-alone-zap-office-of.html?m=1

3. Veritas: "Right now (Nov. 6) there are actions scheduled from midnight on through Wednesday for releasing funds, implementing an announcement, etc." http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/re-if-election-happens-gesara-dead.html?m=1

4. One Who Believes: "My (feeling on Nov. 7) is that it will go within the next 48 hours or less. Be ready for any moment now. Some of the clues that I base that on is:" http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/re-timing-answers-guest-post-by-one-who.html?m=1

5. Yosef on Nov. 7: "Well, no matter the many possible benevolent reasons, it's wise to now exhale and let all past expectations and resentments go. It's now time to be at peace for all is well. As the blessing you have waited for, prayed over, sacrificed much to harvest has finally arrived." http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/benevolence-gesara-update-monday.html?m=1

6. Dr. Clarke on Nov. 7: "Thought you might like a little extra "entertainment" on this crazy Monday and crazy next 7 days, really really crazy next 7 days." http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/push-button-dr-clarke-update-11-7-16.html?m=1

7. I say "my contacts whispered this week."

N. Nov. 8 2016 2:40 am EST: Confirmed ZIM Rate Update #3 - Tuesday - November 8, 2016

1. 1 ZIM = 30,000 USN+

2. Bonus Republic Update

a. The entire democratic HRC campaign is a complete hoax. MSM, too. Ask yourself why you haven't noticed?

b. Paul Ryan has already been sworn in as the hand picked restored Republic President. They even had an inauguration party for him in Reno this past October. Ask yourself why you were not invited let alone informed?

c. China, Russia and White Hat decision makers would never allow a long standing cabal leader to mange their newly restored Republic government, military and currency. Ask yourself why you have ignored such basic transitionary logic?

d. Finally, our newly restored Republic government needs to introduce a new currency by decree of international treaty, which means redeemers will be able to walk through the front door of a bank soon. Ask yourself why you were attracted to the currencies in the first place, and is this the same reason you're now following the RV so closely?

e. Political, military, banking and geopolitical truths and illusions have both been running parallel realities ever since you were born, but they are now starting to cross over, and thus all daily life lies will slowly be revealed as empty historic events, with all truths gently appearing as obvious courses for the same events. Meaning, you'll still be looking at the same picture, but suddenly gain a completely different understanding of it, and thus have a completely different experience instantaneously.

f. Do try and remain open to these dramatically new ideas above. Otherwise, you will either be shocked or terrified... or both.

Resources:

Bill Holter, Jim Sinclair Interview Greg Hunter and Vice Versa

Benevolence" - GESARA Update - Monday - November 7, 2016

Confirmed ZIM Rate Update - Monday - November 7, 2016

Confirmed ZIM Rate Update #2 - Monday - November 7, 2016

Confirmed ZIM Rate Update #3 - Tuesday - November 8, 2016

Confirmed ZIM Sovereign Rate - Update #4 - Tuesday - November 8, 2016

"The Cabal will be Defeated" - Fulford Report - 11.7.16

Restored Republic via a GCR Update as of November 5, 2016

Restored Republic via a GCR: Special Report 11-6-16

Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of November 6...

Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of November 7...

Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of November 8...

"You'll Never Walk Alone" - ZAP - The Office of POOFness - 11.7.16

"We Remain on Track" - WSOMN AdminBill Intel 7:25 AM 11-7-16

"When Ray Signed Off Today" - Thoughts from WSOMN LadyIrish

"Might this be Why Hillary was Let off?" - Guest Post by Drunken Sailor

"Abadi Raises the Flag" - Mon. PM KTFA Thoughts, News w/ Frank26

"Before or After the Elections" - Mon. AM WSOMN Thoughts

"Oral Reading of Arrest Warrants" - Anonymous Guest Post

TNT RayRen's Showtime CC Cliff Notes by Sunny 11-7-16

http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/push-button-dr-clarke-update-11-7-16.html?m=1

http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/benevolence-gesara-update-monday.html?m=1

http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/youll-never-walk-alone-zap-office-of.html?m=1

http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/re-timing-answers-guest-post-by-one-who.html?m=1

http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/when-ray-signed-off-today-thoughts-from.html?m=1

http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com/2016/11/re-if-election-happens-gesara-dead.html?m=1

Bonus Restored Republic Report -- November 8, 2016

Two Private Rothschild Corporations: United States of America, Inc and The Russian Federation

Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of November 8...

"Oral Reading of Arrest Warrants" - Anonymous Guest Post

"Let The Battle Begin" - Neil Keenan Update - 11.8.16

Bill Holter, Jim Sinclair Interview Greg Hunter and Vice Versa

"Clues" - Guest Post by Venz

Confirmed ZIM Sovereign Rate - Update #4 - Tuesday - November 8, 2016




Thanks to: http://inteldinarchronicles.blogspot.com
by Purpleskyz
on Wed Nov 09, 2016 9:02 am
 
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Topic: Restored Republic via a GCR: Update as of November 9, 2016
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Views: 2316

Dave Schmidt Call 11/2/16

Of our top 10 reasons the Round 1 exchange is not done yet:

1) funds are moving
2) we're very close
3) something about paymasters
4) stuff is moving along
5) The cabal is not yet neutered
6) There is good news, but I am not at liberty to disclose it
7) The banks are not yet safe enough
8) The bank was hacked and codes were changed
9) The SWIFT system is still vulnerable
10) OOM lady messed it up

The explanation this week is #4 - Stuff is moving along! 

As far as the big announcement, the information didn't come through Crying or Very sad

The Round 1 exchange will proceed, but if Hillary gets in Round 2 could be delayed by six months or a year.

As for the election, if the race is close, cabal hackers will be able to "flip" the result if it isn't what they want.  Dave predicts Hillary will win the election, but there is a blessing in disguise.  Hillary being in office will put a spotlight on her and her whole corrupt system that has the ability to expose it all.  Dave doesn't think Hillary will make it to the inauguration. 

Dr. Steve Pieczenik has been an inside man in Intelligence for 25 years.  He put out three short youtube videos and he was recently on Infowars with Alex Jones.  Dr. Pieczenik states there has been a coup going on inside the american intelligence community that are the white hats really wanting to end the corruption.  They have said the Clintons are corrupt as you can get.  They have been giving all this information to Wikileaks.  "This is so serious, we are in the middle of America's Second Revolution."  They have all the evidence needed to put Bill and Hillary into prison. 

They are going to do everything they can so that Hillary won't make it into office.  Impeachment or other charges will be brought against her.  Obama is aware of all that is going on and has been covering it up. 

Internal Coup Against Hillary has Begun

The banking system is corrupt, the government systems are corrupt and they can't really bring the money from the top down.  What they can do is change the financial system from the bottom up using everyday people like you and me.  Many different sources are saying they are doing everything they can to get all of the first round money pressed out and pushed out before the election on Tuesday because if Hillary wins, she will do everything she can to stop the exchanges and RV.
by Red Panda
on Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:39 pm
 
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Topic: Dave Schmidt Call 11/2/16
Replies: 49
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11/1/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

Guru Freeway Bill:   Japan turned down increasing the value of their yen to wait for the RV, banks are ordered not to sell dinar and dong, European situation settled, Tony is calling for tonight or tomorrow...The only thing better is when we see it...we are possibly looking at an RI first.  The rate is still sketchy because, based on the GBP, is a lot different than to the USD. I am hearing to the GBP which would give us more, but not 100% on that yet.  I believe that we will see it within a few hours or tomorrow, but anything can happen and Shabibi said by the 3rd and I believe him.


Guru Kaperoni:   I cannot see an RV before they return from break.  Though many wont agree, for various reasons (within Iraq or global), it does not appear to me the RV window is before mid month. If Iraq lines up these reforms and prepares the laws that need passing, and are on schedule…that is a lot of “ifs”…My window now looks at Nov 20th – the end of Dec. Let’s hope I am wrong and it comes sooner.


Guru TNT Tony:   Trigger has been pulled for over a week now. Things done at banking level...we are about to see it... Everything is good. If  I ever said 99.999999999% before, this time you can believe it...We have never been here where we are. We have never been at this place, that's what makes today different!  We're that close. Just waiting. Could be before or shortly after sunrise. Definitely will see it before sunset tomorrow. JMO, thats the info, and I'm sticking to it! I truly feel we are at the end, pot of gold at end of rainbow.

 First Convenience Bank and First National in Texas along with Chase and Wells Fargo have received ORDERS to stop selling dinar within the last hour. Although some banks quit selling ON THEIR OWN a while back, NOW they are being DIRECTED to stop...there is a SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE!


Guru DinarWishes: 
2 OF THE BIG 4 JUST GOT NOTIFICATION TO STOP SELLING THE IQD AND 2 SMALLER BRANCHES JUST GOT NOTIFICATION TO STOP SELLING AS WELL!!!!!!  DEALERS GET THEIR SUPPLY FROM THE CBI AND THE BANKS GET THERE SUPPLY FROM THE UST


WF, CHASE, 1ST CONVIENIENCE, AND 1ST NATIONAL ARE THE BANKS THAT GOT THE ORDER TO STOP SELLING...  WE WENT INTO THE 1ST CONVIENIENC AND THEY SHOWED US THE COMUNICATION THAT SAID TO STOP SELLING. IM BACK AND JONNY IS ON THE PHONE AGAIN AND JUST INFORMED ME THAT ONE OF THE BANKS JUST GOT NOTIFICATION THAT THE VND WAS REMOVED FROM SALES AS WELL


Guru RayRen98:    
No, it's a corporate directive....which had a specific purpose attached to it. I don't know what that was but banks don't usually decide to stop selling something that people are continuously buying on a daily basis WITHOUT A DARNED GOOD REASON!


Guru Bulldog75:   UPDATE: "ELITE FAMILIES" ARE STILL IN CONTROL OF THIS ACTIVATION RATE. THE ELITE FAMILIES MAKE SURE THAT THE RIGHT SEATS OF EMPLOYMENT ARE GIVEN TO THOSE WHO WILL FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS OF THE 'ELITE'. THESE ARE MOSTLY THE EMPLOYEES OF THE IMF, BIS, UN. THE ELITE SURELY WILL CONTROL THIS EVENT AND HAVE IT RELEASED AT THEIR PLEASURE WHEN THE MARKET CONDITIONS ARE CORRECT. THIS IS ALL ABOUT: 1)MONEY 2) POWER 3) OIL 4) TIMING/CONTROL OF THE CURRENCIES. IT APPEARS THE ELITE ARE ABOUT TO GIVE THE 'GREEN LIGHT' BECAUSE THEY HAVE MADE THEIR MONEY. TIER 3 TIME HAS COME


Guru BWM: 
  there are several things we cannot mention that are going on at the moment and are being monitored... some may want to spill that but you won't hear it from me...there was some notice sent to banks today... origin unknown...IF this continues tonight then things look very promising...not sure how long the process will take.

we still need to confirm some things...but confirmation is there, not to panic, things still in go mode


Guru Jonnywg:   I ONLY HAVE VERIFIED 2 OF BIG FOUR...SALES FROM UST STOPPED...the ust has 4 trillion dinar and they stop selling when it is about to rv...dealers get 15 minutes...i will update as it happens tonight...we hope the rates change as we expect...i truly hope this progress continues...and it is finally resolved...this is a big step  step...we should have definitive answers by tomorrow and a possible solution...but i do not have a crsytal ball...hope we are close to the end

JONNY IS ON THE PHONE WITH ME HE IS VERY EXCITED AND WANTS YOU ALL TO STAY GROUNDED AND REMAIN CALM...THE BANKS HAVE GOTTEN ORDERS FROM THEIR CORPORATE OFFICES TO STOP SELLING THE IQD...WE HAVE VERIFIED THIS WITH ALL 4 BANKS... WF, CHASE, 1ST CONVIENIENCE, AND 1ST NATIONAL ARE THE BANKS THAT GOT THE ORDER TO STOP SELLING...THE VND HAS JUST BEEN PULLED FROM BEING FOR SALE AT THE WELLS FARGO BANK...THIS IS HUGE

TODAYS BIG CURRENCY UPDATES ARE: 11AM...2PM...4PM...8PM    ...11PM... ALL CST.  PEOPLE I JUST GIVE YOU WHAT IS HAPPENING...facts are BIDEN IN IRAQ to sign off troops...finance ministers in a meeting...i don't think these things have anything to do with the rv...just sent out to mis guide us...the bank screens do not show any changes except for the irregular activity

attention...report from bank screens are ...irregular activity...rates are jumping...from 1100 to 1200...the iqd is a managed float and is consitantly to date at 1170...THEY USUALLY DO NOT CHANGE...ALSO NO FOREX UPDATE...I AM OFF TO GO AND VIEW SCREENS FOR MYSELF WILL BE BACK NO LATER THAN 8:15 CST.

well group we find ourselves waiting again...this time appears to be different as we know that all is complete...we know that the fat lady is singing but the song is not over...we just know that we are in the right position. i fully expect either the CBI OR THE BANK SCREENS to show the rate on opening today.    i expect a cashin...i expect some results...i expect some answers and will get them...next update is 8am cst...IN MY OPINION THERE ARE NO MORE WINDOWS...this puppy is home and cooled out and just awaiting the public viewing...FEDERAL RESERVE just started a 2 day special meeting...we will report... kuwaite happened in 2003, may, at 3:45 on a tuesday.


Guru Bluwolf:   There isn't much to share folks, but the good thing that there are no changes and that is a positive...But rest assure banks are on high alert, And very silent


Guru Bear5642:
   I HAVE BEEN ON THE PHONE A LOT TODAY AND ALL THE INFO COMING IN ABSOLUTELY OFF THE CHART AND WE ARE LOOKING GREAT...THE AMOUNT OF OIL BUSINESS THAT IS TAKING PLACE AND HOW IRAQ IS LINING UP IN THE AREA OF INFRASTRUCTURE AND PRODUCTION YOU WOULDNT BELIEVE IT. THERE ARE BILLIONS FLOWING INTO IRAQ AS WE SPEAK, IT IS AMAZING...WHEN I TELL YOU I HAVE PERFECT PEACE ABOUT THIS RV THAT IS UNDERSTAEMENT...WE WILL KNOW MORE AFTER AM IMPORTANT CALL THIS EVENING.


Guru OkieOilman:  

HI FOLKS--I'VE BEEN OCCUPIED WITH THE OIL INDUSTRY CONSTANTLY FOR SEVERAL DAYS NOW. MY OCTOBER TO REMEMBER STATEMENT WAS FURNISHED ME BY TOP GOV OFFICIALS ABOUT 5 WEEKS AGO AND HAS BEEN THE NAIL I HAVE HUNG MY HAT ON. WELL--AS PAUL HARVEY SAID--HERE IS THE REST OF THE STORY--I KNOW BE THE FINE INTEL PROVIDERS YOU HAVE BEEN KEPT UP TO DATE WITHOUT MY CONSTANT PRESCENCE REPEATING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER---YES THIS WAS SCHEDULED FOR THE 31ST OF OCTOBER EVEN THO I NEVER SPECIFIED A CERTAIN DATE. WELL--WHAT I LEARNED LATE LAST NIGHT IT WAS STILL SCHEDULED TO HAPPEN LAST NIGHT BUT A HICCUP OCCURED WITH THE CHINESE CONNECTION AND THAT IS WHAT INTERVENED. NOW AS OF THIS MORNING MY SOURCES ARE REPORTING THAT ANY MOMENT THIS WEEK IT SHOULD (SHOULD) OCCUR. I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER INTEL CHANGES OR WHEN A CERTAIN COUNTRY HAS I.P. PROBLEMS--I FEEL REALLY GOOD ABOUT THIS WEEK ACCORDING TO SOURCES THIS MORNING----I REALIZE FINALLY NO ONE HAS A TRUE HOLD ON THE BUTTON TO PUSH TO ACTIVATE THE R/V AND WHOEVER THE ENTITY THAT FINALLY PUSHES THE BUTTON ACCORDING TO WHAT I AM BEING INFORMED HAS BEEN ORDERED TO PUSH THE BUTTON RAPIDLY NOW--NO ONE KNOW'S FOR CERTAIN WHEN BUT IT APPEARS IT IS NOW OR THIS WEEK.


Guru Vic1: 
GOOD DAY... VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL STAY POSITIVE! THIS STORY ABOUT SUCCESSFULLY REACHING THE TOP ...THE SUMMIT OF MT. DINAR IS ABOUT TO REACH THE FAMOUS LAST TWO WORDS.... THE END!

WHAT'S HAPPENING? WHERE DO WE BEGIN... THERE IS SO MUCH GOOD NEWS.. THAT THE CLIMB UP WILL BE ONLY REMEMBERED WITH THE WORDS... WE CAME ... WE SAW... WE CONQUERED, THE MOUNTAIN!!!

TO ALL MY OOM FAMILY... GHOST, MOD'S, SAMBO, ALL ADMIN, OKIE, AND ALL OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS... ABROAD... PLEASE STAY FOCUSED... WE ARE IN A VERY IMPORTANT VENUE!!! WE NEED TO DOT ALL I'S AND CROSS ALL T'S... AS BROTHER BULLDOG HAS SAID MANY TIMES... SECURITY!!! WE HAVE THE BEST OF THE BEST HERE! KEEP ALL YOUR DOCUMENTS IN ORDER... WHETHER YOUR GOING TO SET APPOINTMENT WITH TY OR WHOMEVER... REMEMBER... TY AT DINAR BANKER HAS SAID... GOOD PAPERWORK IS TO ALL OUR BENEFIT! I USE THESE CHECK POINTS... SOURCE OF FUNDS... HISTORY OF FUNDS... PROOF OF FUNDS... ALL THE RECEIPTS OF PURCHASES AND RECORDS OF TRANSACTIONS...

KEEP YOURSELF IN CHECK... SO YOU CAN KEEP ALL OF THEM IN CHECK!!! WE WILL BE READY... I CANNOT SPEAK FOR OTHERS... NOT EASY STAYING ON TOP!!! GETTING THERE MANY HAVE DONE!!! STAYING ON TOP? ASK MIKE TYSON!!! EASY CAME... EASY LEFT!!! YOU ALL KNOW THE DEAL!!! STAY FOCUSED!!!

YOU AND ALL OF US...ARE IN THE MOMENT!!! PLEASE DO NOT WORRY ABOUT THE EXACT...SECOND OR MINUTE!!! AS MY BROTHER OKIE HAS SAID... LET US NOT TRY AND MICRO-MANAGE .... EVERYTHING! ALLOW THIS TO COME TO US!!! MY FATHER WOULD ALWAYS TELL ME.. VIC ...THE MORE YOU CHASE MONEY THE FASTER AND FARTHER IT RUNS FROM YOU! HOPE YOU SEE THE POINT!!! LOVE AND RESPECT COMING AT YOU!!! GOD IS GREAT!!!


Guru Med:   SHABIBI HAS IMPLIED HE IS IN AN URGENCY HERE, JUST WHAT IS URGENCY FOR SHABIBI.  THE DRAFT TO PRINT FOR ME IS THE END OF WHAT IS NEEDED.  THE ONLY ISSUE FOR CBI  WAS STABILIZING THE DINAR, OK IT IS SOMEWHAT STABILIZED.  INFLATION HAS HURT THE DINAR BUT THAT IS ACTUALLY SHABS FAULT,  THEY TOOK TOO MUCH TIME.  HE WAS WAITING FOR THE PERFECT SITUATION WHICH WAS A MISTAKE.  HE IS READY TO RV, HE ALREADY SAID IT IS AN EASY PROCESS.  NOW WHAT IS THE AGENDA TO RV.  I MEAN REALLY WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE THE SCENARIO'S.  FOR ME BETWEEN THE 10 AND 15TH THEY WILL VOTE ON THE DRAFT TO PRINT THAT IS WHAT SHABIBI CLAIMED HAD TO BE DONE AND IF NOT SOON HE WOULD HAVE TO REVALUE ON HIS CALL, SO THAT TO ME SHOWS AN URGENCY.  HE ALSO ASKED THEM TO SPEED UP.  I PERSONALLY DONT THINK OUR TROOPS HAVE ONE THING TO DO WITH THE RV AND I DONT THINK SHABIBI EVEN CARES. HE IS THINKING ONE THING INFLATION, INFLATION,  INFLATION.


Newshound Bondlady
:   we saw during ramadan what the traders did to the people even though that too was a religious holiday the greed of the traders took over at the poor peoples expense and caused what to happen?...inflation sky rocketed...supply and demand... inflation inflation inflation...the goi should have had all the animals an foods they needed already home grown and raised...but they were too busy fighting an stealing from the people to get it together for them...so now the economy will suffer, the people will suffer...they start talkin about how inflation is gonna hurt... should do something about it huh?



DV Member Bank Story #1Hey Gang! I've got my own bank story now. For the past 6 months I have been buying Dinar and Dong at First Convenience Bank here in the Dallas Metroplex. A few months ago we started getting a warning about Dinar availability on the teller screens saying they may not be able to fill the order due to demand.... but all my orders were filled as requested. My Dong orders never had that warning. My last order was last week and I received the Dong in only two days. When I went into the bank this afternoon I was told they no longer sell Dinar or Dong. I know the teller owns both currencies so when he heard about the policy change this morning he was quit interested in knowing more but couldn't squeeze any details out of their main office.


He was obviously interested about the change in policy and what it could mean to the RV.


DV Member Bank Story #2Just returned from two local currency traders in Southern Cal. Both have become personal friends, we chat on the weekends. While I was there a few people were purchasing dinar. They both are selling Dinar, even today. They confirmed there are no alerts, the screens are not blinking, changing colors, or any sign of this occurring anytime soon. One friend said his business has dropped the last 60 days, people are not buying as much dinar as they were prior to summer.
Chatted with a family member working for Chase in AZ, as an area supervisor. Confirmed there are no communications, alerts, or screen activity relating to the dinar. Stated, really no faith this currency will ever come in... People were very frequent two months ago coming into the branches asking questions about the Dinar... Now, almost nothing.

Last, they are working on employee reduction and cutting costs. There is no plan to increase resources in 2011/2012.

I am doing all the searching I can do validate this opportunity, nothing leading to an RV any moment from now.
Let's o RV


DV Member Bank Story #3I reached out to an inside source at WF in San Francisco. Extremely high up... We we were room mates in college. They have received nothing. Wells Fargo has remained in the same position for years... We do not sell IQD.

Confirmed with two additional WF so at 5pm. No change no new. We are being pumped.


Let see it happen, we are waiting.
Let's go RV
** do not over spend because you feel we are close. It's your money.



DV Member Bank Story #4Ok I know I have never actually posted anything on here but I have been watching for a few months and just had to share this. I have purchased all dinar at my local 1st Convenience here in central Texas...my husband was just in wal-mart and thought he would stop by and talk to the people at the bank and ask about the dinar...as of today they have officially stopped selling it...said they couldn't give out any information and that they did not show it had revalued...please let this be a great sign!!!
by Ssmith
on Tue Nov 01, 2016 10:48 am
 
Search in: MANY MANY YEARS AGO in DINAR-LAND
Topic: 11/1/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND
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10/30/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

[b]Guru Bulldog75:   [/b]THIS SHOULD BE OUR WEEK.  WE ARE GOOD TO GO. AM REALLY EXCITED FOR EVERYONE. TRAIN A COMIN'.


Guru Med: 
  I THINK WE WILL SEE SHABIBI MOVE AS SOON AS THE VOTE IS OVER.  THAT IS WHY HE BOUGHT THE DE LA RUE MACHINES.  YOU HAVE PARLIAMENTS FINANCE COMMITTEE SAYING YES, YOU HAVE ALL THE BANKS IN IRAQ SAYING YES.  THEY VOTE EARLY ON THE DRAFT TO PRINT, SAY BETWEEN THE 10TH AND 15TH, EXECT THE RV WITHIN WEEKS, EXPECT BEFORE THEIR XMAS.

  LETS DO A RUNDOWN OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST 90 DAYS OR ABOUT.    #1  CBI SUBMITS DRAFT LAW TO PRINT TO COUNSEL OF MINISTERS. #2  COUNSEL OF MINISTERS APPROVES THE CBI DRAFT TO PRINT.  #3 PARLIAMENT DOES THE FIRST READING OF THE DRAFT TO PRINT.  #4 PARLIAMENT DOES THE 2ND READING OF THE DRAFT TO PRINT.#5 PARLIAMENTS FINANCE COMMITTEE ENDORSES THE REMOVAL OF THE ZEROS FROM THE IQD.  #6 BANKS OF IRAQ JOINTLY SUPPORT CBI'S DECISION TO DELETE 3 ZERO'S FROM THE NOMINAL VALUE. #7CBI ORDERS 10 DE LA RUE MACHINES AT A COST OF $15 MILLION PLUS.  #8 WE ARE WAITING FOR PARLIAMENTS RETURN SO THEY CAN VOTE ON THE FINAL APPROVALOF THE DRAFT TO PRINT.  SO THAT IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED BRIEFLY THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS.  WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT IN THAT WAY IT DOESNT SEEM LIKE THEY DRAG THEIR FEET, BUT THEY DO.


Guru Jonnywg:
   We are in expectation of the illusive...it should happen between right now and NOV 1ST.   I HAVE NO NEGATIVE INFO, ALL IS POSITIVE...HAVE NO COMMENT ON RATE...I THINK BANKS FIRST.... BUT WHO CARES.... LET IT SHOW SOMEWHERE...AS THEY SAY...JUST DO IT.


Guru Vic1:  Thank you all, OOM FAMILY, All the Administration and Mod's, Ghost and Last but not Least My Brother OKIE! When We see the Brothers KUWAIT and IRAQ... All the TALK about The PORTS... Mubarak PORT... UMM QASR, Port FAW... The NEED for DEEP WATER PORTS!!!! I ask you all a QUESTION? How many of YOU have been to an OPEN HOUSE on A US Navy AIRCRAFT-CARRIER??? The Strait of HORMUZ.... The IRANIAN Navy has Patrolled... KHARQ ISLAND and Others that Iran TOOK from Neighboring countries in 1975!!! When a US AIRCRAFT-CARRIER ROLLS IN ...MAN EVEYONE PAYS ATTENTION!!! The Persian GULF is OURS(USA)! Do not think so... rermember an Article 5 months ago...When 2 Iranian Naval Ships ...went up the SUEZ canal to the MED., SEA? WHO followed them within 2 DAYS? Kuwaiti Navy?, Saudi Arabian Navy?, UK Navy? French, Chinese, RUSSIAN NAVIES??? NO!!! The Biggest and BADDEST of THEM ALL!!! THE US of A... Baby!!! When where in the MED.SEA... KEEPING a GOOD EYE on TEHRAN... TRYING to HELP THE MAD MAN from TRIPOLI!!! That is WHY .... I chose MY CITIZENSHIP at 18 ... to be and REMAIN... AMERICAN!!! THE RED,WHITE and BLUE!!! So... OUR TROOPS are LEAVING...HUH!!! IS THAT ENOUGH SAID... OR WHAT! GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!! FLY FOREVER...OLD GLORY!!! 


Guru TNT Tony:   In keeping with Dan’s analogy on our Friday call…We are EXPECTING the CBI to send out our announcements within the next 12 hours – Live Presentation of the new baby should be sometime in the next 24 hours –..... .... REMEMBER…Babies come on their own schedule so NO GUARANTEES – If the baby is not delivered by Thursday…expect a C-Section – Have a GREAT DAY – I am out buying stuff for the nursery!


Guru Bear5642:
   WELL I JUST CAME IN TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE AND BELIEVE WE SHOULD SEE THIS COME TO FUITION THIS WEEK, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY OR THURSDAY.   I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING NEW SINCE FRIDAY AND IT IS EXTREMELY QUIET RIGHT NOW THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM.  I JUST KNOW THAT THIS WILL HAPPEN WHEN ALL BANKS ARE OPEN AND THE LATEST SEEMS TO POINT TO FOREX FIRST, MY GUESS IS THIS COULD POP EITHER CBI, FOREX OR ALL BANKS AT ONE TIME.  WE WILL KNOW THE MINUTE IT HAPPENS.  THIS RIDE IS DEFINATELY COMING TO AN END.

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND WHEN WE FIRST CAME IN WITH THE NEWS OF A 30 DAY DELAY WE ACTUALLY SAID ORIGINALLY IT COULD GO TO THANKSGIVING HOWEVER WE WERE TOLD IT WASH BEING PROCESSED A LOT MORE QUICKLY NAD THATS WHY WE ARE LOOKING INTO THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER

OK I HOPE I HAVE BROUGHT SOME GOOD NEWS TO EVERYONE AND I MUST BE GOING. WE DO EXPECT TO GET SOME CALLS OUT OF IRAQ TODAY OR TOMORROW AND AS ALWAYS YOU WILL HEAR IT IN OKIES HOUSE FIRST


Guru BWM:   my biggest struggle with this has been the idea that this is all iraq now... it's not and the fate of the economical balance hangs in the future of this going on... so while it should/could have been resolved months ago understand that every country has pinned their hopes on this helping them IMO.  some may want to point to that date based on the G20 meetings and some other factors... there are several other issues that need to be resolved before then that should lead to us seeing it before then... I still believe we are anytime...attitude has not changed about that with what I have heard

 
Guru OkieOilman
(via Ghost):   JUST A SHORT STOP OVER RE-FUELING OKIE'S PLANE--HIS REPORT STILL STANDS ABOUT THE TIMING OF THIS EVENT--IT SHOULDN'T BE LONG NOW. HE HAS BEEN IN CONSTANT CONTACT WITH THE M.E. AND THE NECESSITIES ARE ACCOMPLISHED--THERE IS NOTHING MORE TO SAY

OKIE TOLD ME TO POST HE WILL BE OUT OF THE STATES FROM NOV7 THRU NOV 30TH AND PROBABLY OUT OF COMMUNICATION LOCALLY

THIS BOARD HAS PROGRESSED TO THE POINT THAT OKIE HAD HOPED IT WOULD. WITHOUT A DOUBT THE MOST INFORMED INTEL ACQUIRING PEOPLE ARE ALL ASSEMBLED ON THIS ONE SITE. THIS HAS REALLY TAKEN A BURDEN OFF HIM. HE IS ABLE TO GET SOME SLEEP INSTEAD OF BEING ON THE PHONE ALL NIGHT TO THE M.E. ACQUIRING INFO TO FURNISH YOU. HE SAID THIS SITE HAD FINALLY GROWN UP ENOUGH THAT HIS CONSTANT PRESENCE IS NO LONGER REQUIRED. HE SAID HE WOULD ONLY POST OCCASIONALLY FROM NOW ON. BUT---HE WILL BE HERE AFTER THE R/V FOR THE PURPOSE OF HELPING SOME NEWBYS NAVIGATE THE PROCESS THEY WILL FACE AFTER THE R/V--HE SAID TO TELL EVERYONE HE LOVED THEM AND HOPED GOD WOULD BLESS YOU ALL BEYOND MEASURE.-----

OKIE AND MYSELF WILL BE LOCATED IN ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACES ON EARTH---BUT ONE OF THE MOST DANGEROUS PLACES TO POSSIBLY BE----PRAY FOR US BOTH PLEASE


Guru Poppy3:
   I am so pumped after the calls I got today all three within 45 min of each other and all had the same details from all different sources and said be ready between sunday and monday night to hear the rv and should be cashing in on tuesday the 1st of nov. awesome people honest and very sincere about the investment.  I belive it completely these guys don't play. one group information direct from bagdad, the other direct fro isreal, the other from a member of the federal reserve.


DV Member 'Dinar Buddy':  The gurus are stating Dealers are going to be required to stop selling and be on alert this coming week. TOTAL LIE!!
The dealers are not in contact with any federal alerts or communications. The government agencies only track purchases of any currency in large quantities. I have the cell phone of two local dealers, and chatted with both of them an hour ago. Both have plenty of dinar and are never restricted to sell. The only time they are not able to sell if they are out of Dinar from their local wholesalers.

The next we will hear the government is blocking out all dinar sites. This was tried in march and was deemed a joke by all.
The games the gurus do to create sales of the Dinar...

** I am not a pumper so don't ask me for the dealer contacts. You most likely are over spent to this point any way...
Go RV
by Ssmith
on Sun Oct 30, 2016 1:27 pm
 
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Topic: 10/30/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND
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Frank - Highlights From Monday Night KTFA CC 10-24-16 with play back link

KTFA Conference Call  MONDAY, OCTOBER 24, 2016

FrostyTheSnowman:  Here’s tonight’s HIGHLIGHTS ...

*** The comments made by Frank26, Delta and others are their sole OPINIONS and cannot and should not be used as any form of financial, tax, banking or investment advice!  We offer NO DATE, NO RATE on this forum!!! ***
 
Tonight’s call began by playing three Christmas Carols:
 
#1 – “White Christmas”
 
#2 - “It’s Beginning to Look a lot like Christmas”
 
#3 – “Chestnuts Roasting on an Open Fire”
 
Frank26:  What is the CBI doing?  Can you keep a secret?  It seems to me, that those inside of the CBI are keeping good secrets – (the best that they can).
....



There are things occurring behind the scenes with the Monetary Reform.  There is movement of “stuff” that Iraqi citizens need … hammers, computer, rice & beans.
 
IMO … countries are interested in doing business with Iraq … and Iraq is paying them … maybe the IMF is paying them … the international world is doing business with Iraq … and they are paying for their goods.  WHOA!  Do you understand that?  Are you with me?  Are you listening?  IMO -- if that is true … if the international world is gaining confidence with Iraq and the new ministers working with Abadi.  Do you think the WTO and World Bank is watching?  Are they impressed?  Can they pay their own bills? Humm.
 
A week ago, Sunday at 3:03 am Iraqi time … there was the “start” of the operations of Mosul … but I would say it was also the start of international business because they were put on a WHITE LIST.
 
I believe that this TRANSITIONAL RATE that is being used … (not in front of our eyes, nor the CBI … because by law, they would have to tell you they are) … is being used … to bring in these goods.
 
Remember … within 10 business … (normally 30) … there would be some needed info passed to the IMF or in increase in the rate to qualify with what they are doing within their budget.
 
May I suggest … there may be a SWAP … not of currency … but of an EXCHANGE RATE … within the SwiftNet system.
 
IMO -- the SwiftNet is a using a derivative … (we think) … within the next 10 days … to do a CURRENCY SWAP with the rate of the IQD against … (possibly) a basket of currencies.
 
And that’s the end of our conference call … thank you very much for coming … because that in itself would be more than enough to share with you. (just kidding)
 
Please take these “suggestions” to God in prayer.
 
Watch them.
 
Watch them possibly become real.
 
The citizens needed to trust the banks … but the international banks need to trust Iraq and their government. 
 
From black, to gray, to white … (the list) … it means they are UNRESTRICTED!!!  We told you this!  This is the freedom of movement and possibly within their capital … all IMF requirements.
 
    The Credit Rating
    Security of Corruption
    Money Laundering
    Financial Terrorists
    Legalities, Laws, ICC
    Banking Structures & Standards
 
These are NOT just movements so they can just play Tittle-De-Winks!
 
This is the Monetary Reform begin born in front of your eyes!
 
I believe that a countdown with the IMF started around that time.
 
We (non-Iraqi citizens) will probably never see a 1 to 1 rate … because a Transitional Rate (TR) may take it well past it!!!
 
The CBI and our CC Notes … are finding commonality.
 
Please remember … the CBI … does NOT have to tell you anything.  They do NOT owe you an explanation whatsoever.  It should be so.
 
Delta sends his regards and love.  He sends his patience.  He studies the CBI website for us … reads every article … interrupts them.  He pays attention to the spreadsheet … shows key numbers … projected rates … but some fields are blank.  Projected rates show 14 to 15 cents … but the 2016 is blank.  Now, some are no longer variables … they are now derivatives.  So many things … and all before November.
 
We believe the Abadi and Saleh are sending confirmations/documentations to the IMF within the 10 days that we talked about --- which are coming to a close … all BEFORE November.  IMO --- all an indication of their financial reform.

IMO -- each member of the IMF needs verification … before any change in rate … to be completed before November.

IMO – that includes a rate change … that deals with contract goods.

The letter to the IMF lets each member within the IMF knows of the rate.  The IMF cannot finalize the agreement with Iraq until they see documentation.

I told you, I don’t think we’ll ever see 1 to 1.  They might surprise us all with the international rate when it does come out.  In the ‘70’s and ‘80’s, it used to be around $2.80.  When Saddam took over, it was over $3 … and the Gulf Currency is launching around $2.60 to $2.70 … which is a fair number to start at.

We believe that the IMF may meet on the 7th of November to see if Iraq completed all they needed to do … but IMO … meetings are ongoing now.   The CBI will not be involved in any of this because they can keep a secret.

Please understand derivatives I’m not going to be your math teacher.  IMO -- variables that are now derivatives.

Mosul is still with/without the liberation … but the IMF does not care about Mosul. 

The IMF is in business to make money with Iraq.  There is no profit at a program rate.
 
The IMF does not care about 2017. 

IMO – the MR consists of the RI … and that is for the IMF.

The international world which consists of the Economic Reforms … which is the RV --- (which is not a part of the IMF).

I believe that the RI is for the IMF which is part of the MR. 

The RV is for the international investors.

This will be the FINAL letter to the IMF within these 10 days. 

It will give the IMF a good idea of when Iraq will raise the value of their currency.

Give us Fallujah … and you have the ECONOMIC REFORMS.

Give us Mosul … and you have the MONETARY REFORMS.

IMO -- I believe that we are within 1 to 2 clicks outside of Mosul. 

Therefore, we are very close to the center. 

Right now it is the Kurds Army that surrounds Mosul … that is exactly the way it should be.

The most important thing about Mosul right now is … the “CENTER.”

The CENTER … if all of Iraq was like a bulls-eye … I believe that the center of Mosul is the bulls-eye itself.

The bulls-eye of Mosul … contains the MR and the ER.  (Monetary Reform and the Economic Reform).

Do you remember that the CBI website told ALL of the banks in Iraq to prepare themselves – to stop using the USD in the first part of next year (2017) … remember that?
 
The CBI doesn’t talk that often … but when they do … especially now … they are passing along some amazing information … IMO.

The Rasheed Bank stated last week that they are adopting a new system to transfer money inside and outside of Iraq. 

Well … a country that is slapped with charters that restricts them … does not have the privileged to send their worthless money into an international environment – that’s why they are in sanctions. 

Chapter VII … has been a slow evolution.

Now the Rasheed says they are going to adopt a new system. 

Do you know what that system is? 

It’s called the IBAN (IBN) International Banking Network … which are codes … that you can’t read … codes that are necessary for Iraq’s currency to go into the international theatre. 

These are codes/routing numbers … will be used by Iraqi banks … works hand in hand with the SwiftNet system. 

Do you think Iraq qualifies for something this? 

Well, behind closed doors … I guess they do.  

They haven’t done it yet, but they have been telling the citizens this in the news. 
   
The Transitional Rate is bringing in the number … the variables … the derivatives … of their budget … IMO.

Iraq asked for the budget, didn’t they?

Topics tagged under 4 on Dinar Daily - Page 3 Pic3-budget_orig
Mosul is about 80-90% done.
 
There is NO STOPPING the Monetary Reform.  

The timing may frustrate you, but I think the timing is brilliant.

I believe that you know that the IMF is going to give them the 2nd loan … and IMO … there is something that is coming with it.   And all before November, huh?

I believe that the evidence of this documentation, along with the derivatives … along with the currency swap … along with the SDR … have all been delivered … and all on time.

IMO – they are doing everything on time.

IMO – the IMF has received the letters from Iraq, and now the IMF knows what Iraq is going to do with their Transitional Rate.  I believe we will need this final week to be introduced to Mosul. 

The CENTER of Mosul … to me … is like the bulls-eye target!

In effect … pushing the terrorists into the center.

The Citizens have been an amazing help … flags on homes … flyers … scared ISIS.

ISIS is killing their own commanders … and these “squeeze plays” were used on them in the center of Mosul. 

Yesterday the Iraq leaders didn’t even talk about Mosul … but today, they did. 

We believe that this “pattern” … which will back-up what I’m trying to tell you about the center of Mosul.

IMO … the CENTER of MOSUL is the MONETARY REFORM!

ALL OF THESE ARE FROM ARTICLES …

#1 – “Intense artillery bombardment on DAASH sites … near the CENTER of Mosul.”

#2 – “Within 1 week … troops captured 74 towns … restored to the CENTER of Mosul.”

#3 – “It’s time for the Iraqi Army to proceed with the 2nd phase … advance to the CENTER of the city.”

#4 – “Peshmerga fulfilled their duties … declared victory on the outskirts.”

#5 – “Abadi … only Iraqi Army will be allowed to step into the CENTRAL part of Mosul.”

#6 – “Counterterrorism entered the village … within 15km of the CENTER of Mosul.”

All of these articles from TODAY … is not a coincidence family.  It’s a pattern.

#7 – “Coinciding the victories of the CENTRAL area of Mosul.”  -- (this is the article that was running around the Internet).

#8 – “… Chairman announced an ENCIRCLEMENT of Mosul.”

#9 – “… advance to the city CENTER.”

#10 – “the intelligent grounds on the bridges and streets are saying the organization withdrew … approached the liberation of the CENTER of the city of Mosul.”

Who talks like this?  Your conference calls.

It’s important that we (USA) doesn’t go in there (Mosul).
 
The Peshmerga gets the credit.   (Arab victory)

With ISIS killing itself … this last week of October … is going to be very interesting.

IMO – planting the Iraqi flag in the CENTER of Mosul … would coincide with the monetary reform.

Meanwhile, parliament finance says they have read the budget.

Do they have to read it a 2nd and 3rd time?  See what happens next week.

Oil prices have paused temporarily in lieu of the budget.

Elder88 made a post #157 … he said “WOW!  I just wanted to relay it this way … this is what we have already been hearing from F26, but in less words.”

What is he talking about?  The article that came out … a lot of us were shocked … but the words were just what we wanted to hear.

May I suggest that we have been expecting this, haven’t we family?

Delta … I called him … told him about the article … and WS and I saw it late last night … but WS said “no.”

We had Delta investigate it … Delta found it in Arabic … and said it’s was a legit source.  It was actually from a newspaper that a lot of journalists that live outside of Iraq send their articles too.  They don’t really live inside of Iraq.  They live in the US and throughout Europe.  The site itself is legit according to Delta. 

The article had been put together … kinda like Frankenstein (one piece at a time) … but it contains 2 separate things – that were not Frankenstein.  If you go back to 2003, you will see some of the words that were used in articles – you know, like they were getting ready to raise the value of the IQD. 

#1 – the articles is saying there is an independent source in the CBI that is telling them this.  (info leaked).  Can you keep a secret family?  Sometimes it’s hard.  Perhaps the CBI talked to this journalist .  The article also talked about Chapter VII.  We continued to study it.  It basically what Dr. Shabibi said before he was kicked out by Maliki and Obama.  Just because it has parts from 2003, does NOT make it any less viable.

The RECENT LIFTING?  (That’s what the IMF wanted them to do with the auctions, etc.)

WS and I didn’t want to put this article out because it was being abused by other guru’s.  We wanted to study it further … and it was treated well on our forum in thought/opinions.

This article cannot be dismissed.

Caution upon caution … I pray that you are now satisfied with it.

We will probably not see any more information presented next week … only meetings to sign-off the monetary reform.

Thank you kindly for allowing me to share our studies with you.

Let’s see if they give you Mosul within the next 7 days.

Let’s see what the elections hold on November the 8th. 

There is a pattern.

CC ended with prayer.

PLAYBACK LINK:  https://www.freeconferencecallhd.com/playback_rudd/?n=OTQCw/uwgOv
by Ponee
on Tue Oct 25, 2016 12:35 pm
 
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Topic: Frank - Highlights From Monday Night KTFA CC 10-24-16 with play back link
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Dr. Clarke Responds 10/11/16

Questions that Dr. Clarke answers:

Paul
10/10/2016 08:17:33 pm
Oh dear...
First it's March of 16, then June, then Sept then Oct 3 then the 10th and then maybe Dec 1 and now April of 17....

I have no problem when gurus come out with their predictions. We all listen and use our discernment to figure out what to believe.

My disappointment in Dr. Clarke stems from the fact that came out so definitive, so authoritative, like he had some kind of inside track to the plan and actually had knowledge of the inner workings of the decisions being made at the top.

Clearly I was one of the people who "fell" for this and I believed everything that he said.

I'm just so tired of all the BS and hype surrounding this. We have all had stress introduced into our lives because of no RV. Our credibility with loved ones is just one in a sting of casualties related to this investment.

I for one am going to take a break from the boards and check in once in a while to see what's up. I love all you people. The rooms and the conversations show how wonderful you all are. But I gotta focus my energies into something that will pay off for me and my family in the SHORT term.

God bless you all. GO RV
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joe
10/10/2016 09:48:03 pm
Here Here Paul......Well said.!!!!!!!
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Ash
10/10/2016 10:16:17 pm
Paul, it's like he said you, me, all of us are GAMBLERS. Paul have you personally met any of these guru's NOPE I bet. As my finance teacher in college taught , you want really big returns take really big risks that's why it's gambling, Clark is giving the best opinionated data he has. Time to come back say mid March, go relax an enjoy....
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Jayne rhodes
10/10/2016 08:22:54 pm
Dr Clark, what site are you on. I love reading your articles but do no know what site you are on. Jayne in Dallas
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BRENDA
10/10/2016 08:24:33 pm
DR CLARKE!

THANK YOU!

IN SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, YOU HAVE BEEN A GODSEND! YOU CAME WITHOUT FANFARE OR EGO, AND TRIED TO HELP US UNDERSTAND THIS BEAST OF A REVALUATION. NO HYPE, NO CONFERENCE CALLS, YOUTUBE VIDEOS, ETC ETC ETC.

I FEEL THAT THIS EMAIL OF YOUR THIS EVENING IS ONE OF YOUR BEST!!

PLEASE DONT LET THE HATERS/BASHERS WIN, BY NOT POSTING THEY WILL WIN!

YOU HAVE SOOTHED AND HELPED SO SO MANY LIVES ON THIS RIDE THIS PAST YEAR, AND ITD BE A SHAME FOR YOU TO CEASE WHAT YOU STARTED.

REMEBER THE REASON WHY YOU CAME!!!

THANK YOU & GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY!!!

BRENDA
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Sandy
10/11/2016 04:10:07 pm
I second Brenda's comment. Don't go away. You are like the fresh breath of air after being in a stifling room for hours on end!!!
Beside that I love the scarcastic comments too much to loose the laughter I get from them!
Besides that I enjoy reading what you say because it is all original not Copied or saying the same thing everyone else says or prints.
Thank. You for being you and Up-Front with everyone!
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Compassion Ministries
10/10/2016 08:28:02 pm
Thanks, Dr. Clarke!

Blessings, Larry
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blazer
10/10/2016 08:29:43 pm
ISIS Forces People of Mosul to Use its Currency, Confiscates Iraqi Dinars

http://www.iraqinews.com/iraq-war/isis-collects-iraqi-currency-replace-currency-mosul/
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Brian Okajima link
10/10/2016 08:32:10 pm
Dr. Clarke, this is not funny you got everyone confused. We don't need another person to create a chaos situation inside of each individual. You said - ' DO IT TODAY! GET ON IT!……..your currency will still be there. Just because it hasn’t happened before, doesn’t mean it can’t happen TODAY!……..no matter what your age is.' Tell us the truth, because we know how is the situation all over the world. Everyday we read the news and we see the problems that people are going through. So tell us, it can happen today or just april...this thing is killing our faith and hope, because has changed so many times that some people cannot handle another delay. Don't get angry about someone else comment but keep informing us with those details that no one else knows. Thanks for everything
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joe
10/10/2016 08:32:53 pm
thank u Dr Clarke
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PDGOD
10/10/2016 08:33:08 pm
Dr. Clark, you are right it is your opinion only, USA banks have no liquidity now to wait till April 2017. LOL Your focus in not in the Banking industry or financial world. In total disagreement with your opinion.
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Keith
10/10/2016 08:33:45 pm
In your first Post you said you were a "Whale" and that you were privy to the timeline of events because you were close to the process.
You certainly led everyone to believe that you truly new the Timeline of events in everyone of your posts.
Your timeline of events fell apart and now you seem to have an attitude towards your readers.
Now you say everything shared from this point on is Your Opinion.
Just come clean and admit that you are just another Guru that has shared your Opinions just like all the others.
You do not have to get Critical of everyone simply because you were wrong.
You seem to be implying that those of us that have Eagerly followed your postings simply MisRead into what you were posting. Nope! You led us to believe that you had info no one else had.
Now I question your Integrity.
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Robin
10/10/2016 09:48:20 pm
You are absolutely correct in every thing you said. Thank you!!
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Gman
10/10/2016 10:21:21 pm
Couldn 't have said it better myself Keith. You wrote into words the exact thoughts I had reading this from Dr. Clarke.
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Red
10/10/2016 11:45:51 pm
Great comments, Keith. I think the person behind "Dr. Clarke" thinks that we have forgotten past writings. We haven't. This has become a farce.
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Jeremy
10/10/2016 08:34:12 pm
Awesome, finally the truth.
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DUTCHIE
10/10/2016 08:37:42 pm
Thanks for coming back to us as you promised that you would stay with us through our journey. Yes you were 100% wrong but I still believe you are THE best one out there guessing! And what I do respect the most is that you do not bash others in order to make yourself look better which is a total sign of weakness! The only mistake you made was that you told us for sure it was happening! That is what got us down and angry and disappointed etc....! But we learned again that nobody knows and it is just a guessing game trying to connect the pieces of the puzzle! We need to do our own research too and with the info you give us stairs us in the right direction to do so! I value your knowledge and definitely would like you to keep giving us your info! You are forgiven and letz have a new improved start. Out with the old, in with the new! Welcome back! Let us all look at the glass half full vs half empty and all of us Dinarians should give good energy to this TV happening. GO RV! Proost
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Naplesnurse  
10/10/2016 08:39:49 pm
Dr. Clarke,

I am speechless. Sounds like I need to brace myself as our world continues in a steady downward decline.

Thank YOU, Dr. Clarke, for all you do.
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Gia
10/11/2016 12:39:45 pm

Hi!!

My posts are never mean I have no idea why I'm not getting through? I wanted to tell you hello and thanks for posting yesterday always happy to see you around.

Take Care:)
Gia~
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Aclogan
10/10/2016 08:40:53 pm
Is it still okay for us to purchase uncirculated dinar? I'd like to buy more but not really sure where to buy from now. I bought mine from sterling.
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Diana  
10/10/2016 10:35:35 pm
Dinarinc, or safedinar. Only 2 credible sites that I personally know of.
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Max Jean-Baptiste
10/11/2016 03:50:48 am
XchangeofAmerica.

Shirley  
10/11/2016 09:00:05 am
Aclogan, I would suggest you don't purchase any more Dinar since it has been so overly produces. I would suggest you purchase Dong you will get a far better return on the Dong then the Dinar and the Dong is a recognized international currency already. If anything goes wrong with this RV you can still cash out your Dong and not take a loss on what you paid not so with the Dinar. You can also purchase Dong from your bank.
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WB-LD
10/10/2016 08:41:15 pm
Dr. Clarke thank you for your time and INTEL... it is greatly appreciated. Your willingness to assist us is much more than is required or expected by anyone... You have GONE WAY BEYOND the call of duty... I remember you saying something... this investment is not logical... I will stick with that statement realizing that this transaction has a ""HIGH PROBABILITY"" of occurring ANYTIME!!!
Which could mean this MONTH or even by the end of 2016... BUT LOGICAL THINKING SAYS, no way but... this entire investment is SPECULATION AND NOT LOGICAL... RIGHT??? Thank you for your response to my comment.
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[url=http://Dinar Recaps]Bill[/url] [url=http://Dinar Recaps]link[/url]
10/10/2016 08:47:50 pm
Dr. Clarke,

Thank you for your honesty and explanation of all.

Sometimes truth hurts but it is still 'truth'.

God bless you.
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Ruby
10/10/2016 08:56:30 pm
Dr. Clarke,

Thank you for coming back - but not so happy to hear about such a long delay.

PLEASE CLARIFY: Are you saying that the VND is ready and can go at any time -- and DOES NOT NEED TO GO AT THE SAME TIME AS THE DINAR?

Thank you for clarifying.

Ruby


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Jodie
10/10/2016 09:32:33 pm
This is my question also. I was of the thought that the Dong would go with the Dinar?
Thank you, Dr. Clark
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Dave
10/10/2016 10:44:15 pm
Agree,

If the Dong is ready let us exchange. Something is better than nothing.

Jeanne
10/10/2016 08:59:16 pm
Touche' Clarke! I wondered how you would handle the "whiners", now I know. I do wonder, however, why you would want to be involved with any of us "dreamers" in the first place? On the other hand, perhaps on your part, you are providing a wake up call for us...a dose of reality? Yes, I watched the name calling debates; yes, I see Russia on a storm path; yes I am aware of those things that you mentioned and I am sure there are more of which we have no knowledge so I will thank you for your forthrightness. I will also add, at 81 years of age, living on a very meager monthly income, I must continue to BELIEVE. I have goals to accomplish; I have gifts to give and " many miles to keep before I sleep".i was only able to invest in a very small amount of Dong; I continue to pray to The One, whose Name is above all names, and I believe!
Thank you, Jeanne
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Choo Choo
10/10/2016 11:31:54 pm
Jeanne...

May God bless you and keep you...and all of us...to see this change come. If not, may we find a fish with what we need in it's mouth...for we know he is able!! AMEN! Thanks to Dr. Clark also.
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[url=http://Dinar Recaps]Louise[/url] [url=http://Dinar Recaps]link[/url]
10/10/2016 09:00:46 pm
Thanks, once again, for donating your time to provide us with your valuable insight. It is very much appreciated, as always. God Bless!
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Carguy link
10/10/2016 09:04:55 pm
Why when a Guru is soooo certain of a date, that ultimately sails right on by without a blip suddenly sees the clarity the "real" date is 6 months away? Did you not know Mosul was a mess, HCL not passed, Iraq still corrupt or US elections take place this Nov. on Sept 30??

Dr.'s April prediction shows he really has no idea when this will happen. April or September have always been the fall-back months as those months are traditionally/ historically when IQD changes value.

If I proclaimed in 2013 we would be RV-less in late 2016 nobody would have believed it. If you think all the crap Iraq has to do will be done in 6 months just look at history. If HRC wins I don't think it will happen during her reign at all so everybody better get used to thinking 2021. Sounds crazy but a 2016 RV back in 2012 would have sounded equally crazy.

Dr. - just for "Entertainment" as you say - I and many others would like to know what made you so certain of your past dates.

This is hardly "Entertainment" for many who hung their hopes on your words for the last 10 months.
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Gman
10/10/2016 10:23:50 pm
Bingo!
Well said CARGUY.
Gman
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Gary
10/10/2016 10:48:21 pm
Carguy you took the words right out of my mouth. Especially after my real words didn't get posted by recaps earlier!
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[url=http://Peoples Dinar]Muecke[/url] [url=http://Peoples Dinar]link[/url]
10/11/2016 07:09:23 am
I agree 1000%.
Nuff said......
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killakid
10/10/2016 09:16:25 pm
Finally we have an Honest post.
Entertainment Purposes Only
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John F
10/10/2016 09:19:13 pm
Thank you Dr Clarke
Always great to see you in the que, ALWAYS! Solid, consistent information, per usual, and more than confirms what's I've been feeling. Makes good sense. This is such a massive transition, which I think of more as a GFR versus a GCR - a Global Financial Restructuring - regarding the BRICS alliance, AIIB and China now within the IMF ranks, just to name a few.... These are huge aspects of this financial restructuring process, and somehow connected to Iraq's coming back to full international status. - truly an amazing time to experience, especially with our front row seats.

I don't have any questions right now - just wanted to chime in and say thanks again. All of a sudden, it will be April

Love to you and yours
John F
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[url=http://recaps dr clarke oct 10]wanderer[/url] [url=http://recaps dr clarke oct 10]link[/url]
10/10/2016 09:37:50 pm
Thanks Dr. Clarke for your time and efforts. Sorry for all the know it all's in dinar land. This post hits it square on the head. So many focused on you and they are following others of the cliff continually, to afraid to see the truth of life for what it is. They need to be led... unfortunately the blind leading the blind. Shine some light and they do not recognize it. They seem to have a form of godliness but deny the power... love. For them eventually easy come easy go. Love to you and yours and recaps who has to put the highwaters on to wade thru it...
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Debra
10/10/2016 09:42:10 pm
Dear Dr. Clarke,

Thank you for sharing the latest information, although it is not what any of us wanted to see.

Is the April date based on logic or was it a date which was discussed during the meetings? Do you personally feel that it will take this long or do you think they will come back with a different plan?
Do you feel that Vietnam will have a new rate earlier than April, and, if so, what is your best guess as to that date.

Please don't leave us. There are many of us who respect you and look forward to hearing from you.
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Far North
10/10/2016 09:43:26 pm
While I am usually a "proofer," your "opinions" line up almost identically with a friend of mine who has proven extremely wise in these matters. She told me that everything will "lock into place" around election time but things wouldn't be quite done until spring time due to volatility in the area and that the rates would not be the kind that makes *everyone* instant millionaires. While she didn't give me any proof either, she has never been wrong in these kinds of things in the 9-10 years I've known her.

While I normally would've passed your info by since it didn't have "proof" (just being honest), this made me take another look. Two of your posts on schedule updates have lined up with hers (which I heard before reading yours) and even the outside factors did. I am positive you are not her and that she does NOT read DU, so I feel there is something to this. So keep in touch with everyone. I'm truly curious if there is something to this alignment of ideas.
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[url=http://Sedona Connection]Gunther[/url] [url=http://Sedona Connection]link[/url]
10/10/2016 09:45:54 pm
Amen, Amen, and Amen!!! This is the post I have been waiting to read to set my spirit free. There really should not be anymore debate period regarding where we stand in this venture, because we all have been blessed with sound reason, and this fantastic post should be as plain as can be. God I love this man and thank Dinar Recaps for allowing the truth to hit this site. Folks everyone take heed of all the good advice in this post, and do not count on this "speculation of re-valuation" to turn you into a millionare, but maybe it will be a nice return on investment. Get busy looking elsewhere for income, plain and simple!!!!!
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repguy link
10/10/2016 10:53:12 pm
Recaps, you don't typically post my comments, but please post this:
You know, lost in the shuffle, speculation and hype is that some of us are very sick. There will be no other source of income, no other potential (apart from the miraculous intervention of God) for desperately needed medical care. In such instances, one does wind up inordinately searching for hope. Pathetic, huh?
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Sean link
10/10/2016 10:59:19 pm
I agree that very few will become millionaires with the dinar, but might make a nice profit. If you are looking for the dinar to solve your financial issues you may be disappointed. You need to diversify and quit reading the blogs everyday. Get out and enjoy life.
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Ellie link
10/10/2016 11:57:50 pm
Ditto!
Thanks Dr. Clarke. I do believe that you intend the best for all.
I now try to go throughout each and everyday with that intention as well. It sure does make for a happy day! Thank you for your time.
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Herewego
10/10/2016 09:52:09 pm
Ok Dr. Clarke, here are my questions (as D.R. didn't post my other one)
1. Can we go to Iraq and exchange? As there seems to already be an in country rate change.

2. Before, when they have pulled the wool over our eyes, then pulled out the rug, we had the twitter campaign, which was the only thing that seemed to work against them, now Obama has given away the internet to the UN, so will we be able to do the tweeting again? And did they make us think the rv was coming to smooth us over until after Oct. 1?

3. Are the corrupt politicians trying to get out of office before they let this go and they get found out?
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steve link
10/10/2016 09:54:37 pm
so the Dong could go anytime? Is there any intel coming out of reliable sources that the Dong is ready to go? If so what would trigger? You said they are ready. Who gets to say ok you can revalue? (Vietnam)
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Montana
10/10/2016 09:54:50 pm
I think Dr. Clarke just needed to vent a bit for our entertainment! This is great news. If we can get everyone else to agree it's going to be an April RV we may have a chance for it to happen this week.
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Cortez
10/10/2016 10:09:31 pm
Thank you for your lengthy post, Dr. Clarke. It's always good to hear from you. Could you please elaborate on the "hints" you gave -- Russia, Trump and Iran, and how they might impact the dinar RV timeline? Thank you.
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Jeannie  
10/10/2016 10:18:12 pm
Hey thanks for your posts... it's appreciated just in case nobody ever tells you. there's people who don't understand and never will you don't have to worry about them.

Nearly every Intel provider has called it daily for years I don't think anyone has ever put you in the same boat. And if anyone Compares you to any other Intel provider than they're just an idiot.

Even Billy has called it many times throughout the years.

Take care and know that there's people out there who support you and hope to continue to read your posts.
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Beverly
10/10/2016 10:19:02 pm
Dear Dr. Clarke, to be honest I was not surprised with your blog post today. After taking the blame for people dying, buying currency they could not afford, and just about every other BLAME the Dr. method.

I will also just add that I have wondered WHY anyone would want to provide intel to the masses. Yes, there are far more wonderful people in the world than the negative nellies.

So, taking you for your word that you only meant to help, and provide information that you (they) may have as a whale (group), I would like to THANK YOU.

Second, I see that you have posted from today on for ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY.

QUESTION: If you are posting for entertainment purposes only, are you saying that everything you say is rhetorical? Of no purpose?

Third, you stated that the Vietnamese Dong is READY.

QUESTION: If the Vietnamese Dong is ready, is it your understanding that the only thing that is holding it up is for it to go at or close to the same time as the Iraq Dinar?

Fourth, at appears that a lot of your focus is from the political (USA, Iran, Russia, etc.) standpoint.

QUESTION: Is it your opinion that the TRIGGER for the release of the Dinar and/or Dong is based on everyone and all countries being stable (i.e., the ones you listed and a few more).

QUESTION: If we are waiting for STABLE political position with the USA and some foreign nations, are you alluding in your April time frame that a NEW PRESIDENT for the USA is required of this?

Dr. Clarke, you state you and your friends are whales and there are some WHALES who are stating they are liquid, and have exchanged fully.

QUESTION: Recognizing that their are many players in this currency exchange (countries, foundations, governments, churches, not for profits, etc.), is it your opinion that their is a TIER system, and if so what is the TIER system for rollout that you have heard?

You explain the steps that many are looking for with Iraq (i.e., Mosul, HCL, budget, etc.) and in your timeframe you suggest that December 2016 should see resolution to all of these issues.

QUESTION: If Iraq has Mosul, budget is published, and HCL implemented in December do you see the potential for Iraq to also move into the ANYTIME and ANY MINUTE as of completion of those steps? Or, are you leaning more to the side of the political unrest to be stabilized and the New President of the USA to be seated in the White House before?

I know, a lot of questions and thoughts and ultimately I do thank you and send you my condolences on the treatment you received at the hands of many. If there is one thing each of us needs to remember, it is: WE are responsible for our own actions, and the BLAME game just never cuts it.

Dr. Clarke, I do not know you and you are reading a long winded post from a Canadian. I do however understand that you have been treated poorly by many.

With respect, and sending YOU and all you work with gratitude and I wish only the best for you too.

b.
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Charles Reese
10/10/2016 10:28:01 pm
I'm just listening and reading, waiting my time! I know this is soon to happen, at least I hope. My faith is not in the RV but in the Resurrection so it doesn't matter if this thing goes or not. Some people have already gone to rest, hopefully in the Lord. This is all that is important. If this RV happens in our lifetime then so be it. It may make life easy or not. It may become more complicated than any of us expected. So be careful what you wish for, it could come to past. Thanks Dr. Clark for you "logic" and input. I've been at this now for 11 years, so what will 6 months matter?
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john
10/10/2016 10:33:40 pm
Dr. Clarke,

Many, many, many thanks for your posts!

You have given us your logical approximate RV date of April 2017. Now would you give us your ILLOGICAL date or month?

We need your "illlogic", the logic maybe found everywhere else.

Blessings my friend.

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bobby
10/10/2016 10:34:20 pm
Dr. Clarke, short and sweet. I know thus frustration u displayed came from the Mtn Goat post. Pls pay no attention to her. She is FOS. Just read her carefully. She has had as many "windows" as anybody. She says "read the articles carefully", then says she pays little attention to articles. She sounds like a lunatic to met. Pay no attention to her and keep up what u are doing. Thanks. Bobby
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Ash
10/10/2016 10:36:59 pm
Folks it's time we all put on our big boy an big girl panties an call this like the good Dr. said this is an educated gamble but still a gamble. No one forced us to get into this but who , yep each one of us is accountable for own decisions.... It's time to get over it an stop whining, come on folks it's not Clark, goat, Frank, bluwolf, bgg, Tony, or whoevers fault it has not RVd. As of this moment I think we are all on the right side of the ground go live your life as if today was your last an then the next day and then the next. I promise everything will fall into place.
Ash. In Dallas
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Stan  
10/10/2016 10:41:12 pm
Dr. Clarke,

Thank you for your time, input and your heart felt advice. But for now I will stick with this:
DOUBT & EVIDENCE, will tell you maybe much later in 2017, or Never at ALL.
Your HEART & GUT, might tell you something different……
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dale
10/10/2016 10:53:30 pm
Well, thanks Doc, honesty, 10.6 years what's another 6 mo. Like you said a gamble. We all are sick of the spin in dinarland.Your opening sounds better than all the rest. As we wait, please share , and prognosticate as often as you can we are all ears. Your opening on the rate would be interesting to here, purely for intertainment purposes of course. Until next time, be blessed and walk upright, in faith....dale
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john
10/10/2016 10:54:21 pm
Dr. Clarke,

When you say "Also, the Price of Oil, must raise significantly over $50, which has happened, and will continue upwards to just under $100, when Iraq announces…."

Is this a way of saying when the price of oil is just under $100, is when Iraq will RV?

Blessings.
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Helenna Kohl link
10/10/2016 10:56:15 pm
Dr. Clarke, if you would be so kind, please elaborate as much as possible on the dong and it's timing. Will there be any notification or do we just wing it doing our own research watching for a rate. Some are simply not able to hold on another six months.
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[url=http://none at this time]capt wayne willis[/url] [url=http://none at this time]link[/url]
10/10/2016 11:03:56 pm
Except for the exclusion of rate and date, what of a positive nature can you say about the near future of our DONG?
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Christyluv
10/10/2016 11:05:37 pm
Dear Dr. Clarke

Thank you for all you do for us.

To Naysayers I understand it hurts to wait but I don't remember ever when Dr. Clarke said he will push the button for Iraqi Dinar revaluation. It is obvious that based on his speculation, he assumed on certain dates. Let's be grateful to his effort to give us updates even after some bad comments that was posted. This is international matter and things change.
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Candi
10/10/2016 11:09:31 pm
My mom and I luv that u are so honest and just say it like it is....please please please dont stay away too long....I had a premonition 5 years ago that it was going to be after election...and here we are... .I tell u what those gurus that put u down are wrong all the time too!! They have no class and their mother never taught them any manners...they are jealous. ..the only thing that really chaps my hide is I want to know why...why.it is taking so dang long? Then I will be ok...please in simple words and no innuendos please I beg you tell us why...I am sooooo grateful to you...please dont stay away...please I need everyone needs your brilliant breakdown of this insanity. ..ignore all negative and help us please and tanky
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Candi
10/10/2016 11:51:34 pm
I accidentally pushed send before I was finished....thankyou so much for your continued bravery in helping us survive this insane journey. ..I know I speak for everyone.....is there a real truth a real reason why its not going to happen till april? Please that is my question...god bless u for helping us... candi
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applepie
10/10/2016 11:11:23 pm
Dear Dr. Clarke,

I REALLY hope you read my post. I have followed you since day one. I've read and re-read all of your posts and STILL regard you as the ONLY credible source of "information" regarding what seems to some a never ending saga. I want you to know that "I" get you - I "understand you" perfectly and probably more clearly than most.

I also want you to know that I read all 180 comments from your previous post. I also calculated positive vs. negative comments and the positive comments BY FAR exceed the negative. It's just a shame that SO many people can read but not understand or comprehend what hey read. I know as most others know that you never "promised" a September date. You simply said that there were 2 "probabilities", September and December. At the time you felt the September date was more "probable". You also clearly stated that it was contingent upon "other" factors.

Well obviously the "other factors" occurred and that's CERTAINLY not your fault. The bashing that occurred really was quite horrible and absolute evidence that some people just don't get it. It was TOTALLY uncalled for as well a comment by a certain guru/non guru/turned article reporter/constant basher/constant back patter - yeah YOU know who I'm talking about. Shame on you ! ! !

I also understand todays post clear as a bell. I say let the lemmings follow the "logical" path. I choose to follow and believe in your "illogical" approach and always will. I've been involved in this endeavor since 2008 and KNOW just how far "logic" gets you. There is NOTHING logical about this.

I will probably be bashed by certain people too but it's ok as I KNOW there are many MANY more who get it - who understand and who can actually comprehend what you have written. I also feel your apology was totally unnecessary and unfortunately opened the gates for all of the bashers out there.

Wake up people - Mr. Clarke IS the best source of information out there.

Shame on ALL of you bashers ! ! ! You got your 15 minutes of fame. I hope you enjoyed it because when this thing goes down it is YOU who will have egg on your faces.

May God bless you and yours Dr. Clarke. Hang in there - I "Get it" as do SO many more that just don't.

OK - ready......set.......GO ! ! !

FIRE AWAY BASHERS - I too can take it too ! ! ! The only difference between me and the honorable Dr. Clarke is that HE actually replies and I won't. By the way - who else does this or has every done this - quick answer? No one EXCEPT Dr. Clarke. It's called accountability.

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texcat
10/11/2016 11:33:09 am
My exact thoughts, Applepie. Thanks.
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SissyBear
10/11/2016 03:46:33 pm
Very good post Appliepie!
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Francis Albert
10/10/2016 11:53:43 pm
The people that tell you that they have no agenda and are just here to help...have one agenda, to be needed, wanted and admired for their opinion.This has been and is the driving force for all so called "gurus" from the beginning.

Clarke, probably not a doctor, has no more a clue when Iraq will RV than anyone.

If I had to choose one who makes the most sense of all of it is Frank26.
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Radiant Self
10/11/2016 01:00:04 am
I agree. Until now, Frank is the best.
God bless us, each and the whole world!
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Doug
10/10/2016 11:56:47 pm
Dr. Clarke thank you for taking responsibility for your past projections and time !ines. Your the best so far to grace the pages of Dinar recaps. Keep up the good work.
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Mark
10/11/2016 12:28:26 am
Dr Clarke, I am also one that is glad to see whenever you post. Many are quick to complain if they are not told what they would like to hear. Although it is disappointing to have gone past our day or week that just passed we must hang in there. Entertainment or otherwise please keep coming around.

One question that perplexes me is whether or not this is up to Iraq or some outside source. Also, if things were to speed up could it happen sooner than April?

Aloha and Mahalo from Hawaii,

Mark
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Eleven11
10/11/2016 12:40:21 am
Dr Clarke

Thank you for your thoughtful and insightful big picture update.

Okay then ... it seems we continue our dinar/dong land dance with good odds and a high probability of the successful gamble paying off sometime into the near to mid term future. Goodo.

In the meantime I'll continue living each day in the middle of the mystery allowing for all potentials, all possibilities and all time lines.

Heartfelt gratitude for your honest appraisal.



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Kerwin
10/11/2016 12:44:59 am
As a young boy, my sister took my mother’s check book and bought me and my other brothers and sister candy from the corner store. My mother punished all of us and I still remember the punishment over 40 years later. Dr. Clark I don’t know you, but I enjoyed your Intel. It seems to me that you have allowed the people that really didn’t appreciate your sacrifice make it bad for the people that did. As a senior pastor, I answer my critics by helping the ones that need me the most. I can’t afford to punish the ones that need hope and my help. Dr. Clark, when you have people that are hanging on to your every word, sometimes things don’t turn out the way they should; but giving up on people that trust you is not the answer. I apologize for every person that caused you pain by their hurtful words. We need you and hope you can find it in your heart to do what’s right for the people that hoped in your every word.
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tom wiseman link
10/11/2016 01:04:20 am
I AGREE WITH YOU DR.CLARK, WE ARE ALL GAMBLERS THINKING THE NEXT POT WILL BE OURS. BUT SMART GAMBLERS BET NO MORE THAN THEY CAN AFFORD TO LOSE BUT AS IT IS, WE ARE THE FEW.THAT HAS TIME TO WAIT AND CAN STILL LIVE WITHIN OUR MEANS AND CAN SLEEP OK HOWEVER IT TURNS OUT. GOD BLESS THOSE THAT HAVE THAT HAVE PUT IN EVERYTHING. I WISSH THEM THE BEST.
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Dee  
10/11/2016 01:07:18 am
Hi Dr Clarke,

I choose to follow your illogical path as you referenced previously. I got it I read between the lines. God bless

Dee
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Ken
10/11/2016 01:14:23 am
Dr Clarke, I want you to know that most of us appreciate your insight and behind the scenes information. I apologize for the actions of some of these people and can guarantee that all the ones bashing you have never been to, or dealt with, a third world country and do not understand that their mindset is totally different from western populations.

I hope you visit here every week or two to let us know what the current environment looks like at the time.

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[url=http://Dinar Recaps]The Doc[/url] [url=http://Dinar Recaps]link[/url]
10/11/2016 04:10:22 am
We now seem to have 3 large players in this plethora of blogs:
1.Mt Goat - follow the articles but only the "reliable" ones!. Time line - now till early 2017. Concedes Iranian Rial will RV but not talking about Dong
2. Dr Clark - "the man" until recently. He laughed at "those" that said probably by April 2017 but has now joined them - ie all laws etc must be done. He does , however, feel, Dong will go this year ( as does Vietnam, if you care to recall what the Finance Minister said). he doesn't like Iran or their currency.
3. Frank26 & KTFA - poor guy gets basically no comments yet his posts are well constructed & he has real intel. He feels by end 2016 & gives good reasons why. He knows the Dong is "hot" but not when it will go.
The rest are really simply musing & could be removed from the sites as they contribute nothing. Sorry but these guys above are really neck & neck in the race to see who will be remembered for the 15 minutes after the currencies revalue. Wouldn't it be wonderful if these 3 could have a "presidential" debate on why they are right!
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john
10/11/2016 04:58:56 am
Dr. Clarke,

You pack a lot of good information in a few words. I read your post several times and had more of an understanding each time. May I suggest that you remind the readers to go back and read your posts several times slowly? I think you use to do that.

Best regards.
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Dillon link
10/11/2016 08:55:21 am
Great layout of the facts as they are known to date, Dr. Clarke.
The takeaway from this dinar debacle is that this is NOT an investment. Dinar is a pure speculation but with a limited downside.
Could you lose money on the dinar you've purchased? Sure, but it isn't likely you would lose very much. Unlike the worthless ZIM. The ZIM smelled like a con from day one and I've avoided buying any.

The second takeaway is that there are far more reliable ways to "earn" a fortune. And, buying dinar is not in the same category of earning money by dint of hard work and smart thinking.

Just for example, I've easily invested 10X the cash I spent on dinar inventing a device that produces crystalline healing water. Besides restoring health the hydrogenated water accelerates the growth of plants by three to five times.

So, the takeaway for me is to GET A LIFE AND DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE with your time and money.
For me, the satisfaction of inventing something that produces unlimited clean energy with life-changing health benefits far outweighs dabbling in dinar. Dillon
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texcat
10/11/2016 11:29:40 am
Dillon, well sai. Congratulations on your crystaline water device & would love to hear more about it, as a follower of Dr. Emoto & others work with water, it's properties & importance to all life.
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Kim
10/11/2016 08:57:02 am
Good Morning Dr. Clarke,

I had sent you a simple "Thank You," but it didn't get published. So now in reviewing others' comments I feel my questions & personal leanings are best described by both Beverly from Canada & Dee who is still recalling your "illogical" investment & timing post. Would you please answer Beverly's questions? And, are you still of the opinion that we should view this investment's release & timing with an "illogical" perspective -- although perhaps now moved farther into the future? It wouldn't make sense to me that anyone would announce when any country's "revalue" is going to happen as doing so would cause major chaos in the currency markets. What's "logical" about that???

Thank you for your kindness & well wishes for us all. Many of us extend the very same back to you,
~Kim
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Dave
10/11/2016 09:33:44 am
Dinar Community,

Stop whining and complaining. What did you expect Dr Clarke to say? First off, he had the guts to come out and say that he and his group were WRONG! Gut check #1.

That's not easy to do. Admit to the general public that you are wrong. Men of honor will always admit when they are wrong or made a mistake.

Buying foreign currency is a gamble...period! You all knew that from the start. If you believe that Iraq is in full control of their currency reevaluation; then you are clueless. Iraq and
Kuwait are completely different animals for different reasons in relation to their currency evaluations.

The Truth 1:

The Dinar Community always talks about the truth. The truth, just give us the truth. The truth is this:

Look at the history of Iraq. You all know the story. Now, Iraq is trying to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and get back into the international community with no restrictions. And, to date, they have done a pretty good job. Abadi has done a great job of moving them forward while Maliki took them backwards.

Bottom line...the IMF, UN along with other 3 letter communities will NOT allow Iraq back into the community until EVERYTHING is done! And you can bet you butt, that the committee responsible for overseeing this aspect will NOT give the final permission until everything is complete and the situation in the ME is right. You see, these folks are immune to the pressure of pushing that permission button. They don't care about you are me. They don't care about pressure from other governments. Their job is to ensure it's done right and that it will be a success and NOT a failure. Their is too much riding for a country (like Iraq) to fail. They won't let it happen. And they will wait as long as it takes for everything to be absolutely right.
That means that if April doesn't show many improvements, they will continue to extend the timeline. Gut check #2.

This is probably why Dr Clarke ended up being wrong on the September date. The committee simply reviewed everything and determined that Iraq is not ready yet and the political climate is not conducive for a reevaluation just yet. So, they changed the timeline and extended it.

The Truth 2:

The articles you read do NOT tell the complete story. And, they never will. Make no mistake about it. Countries DO NOT
advertise their monetary moves. Not Kuwait, Swiss, French or Japan. None of them. Neither will Vietnam; and they are international and can revalue anytime they want.

Articles are designed to give you some BASIC knowledge. While others are there to deceive you and throw you off track.

Why you ask? Again, countries do NOT advertise their monetary moves. Way, way too much money could be lost if a government let the community know in advance. It could and would cost a country billions and trillions of dollars as corporations, companies, citizens, foreign entities and investment houses were to hedge their "bets" on these currencies. When the Dinar reevaluates, it will be with no notice and the world will be expecting it. No one article will show you the way on this. It's going to be secret. It MUST be secret down to the point when the decision is made and it shows up on the currency screens. People who shove articles down your throat will get caught by surprise just as YOU will. Gut check #3.

The Dinar Community has taken on a life of it's own along with these groups. They want your money, your time, your "hits" on their sites. Make your own deal and figure it out. There is enough information out there. I will say right now that there are a few dinar gurus (FEW) that are out there to help. Figure it out who they are. It's not hard.

Alternate realities like NASARA and the Cabal are just a lot of BS. Ya all need to figure this out! If you are hanging on every article, every call and every blog chat, you will loose your sanity. Get a life! You deserve it. Gut check #4

To Dr Clarke,

Thanks for your writings. Honestly, I did not believe your September prediction. I just thought that Iraq was not ready and they still has more to get done before "they" would give them permission to pull the trigger.

I like your writings. They are straight up and mostly to the point. Please keep it up.

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texcat
10/11/2016 11:35:12 am
Well said.
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Diana
10/11/2016 11:11:25 am
Dr. Clarke sir,
You said you were expecting the rate to be lower than everyone else. Does that include those who say one dollar to one dinar?
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EdoBini
10/11/2016 11:34:33 am
Dr Clarke, l thank you for all your efforts. You have tried. l also appreciates what Frank 29, Delta and BGG have to say. Anyone who boost Zim as a currency worthy of RV is a fraud and they it.
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texcat
10/11/2016 11:46:52 am
Dr. Clarke.

Much gratitude & thanks for sharing your insight & opinions with us. I enjoy & look forward to every post, as do the majority, from the responses. The information you share resonates with those looking for truth in this gamble & life.

Until next time, thanks again & all my best.
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Lifeisgood
10/11/2016 11:56:35 am
My first post didn´t get published so here I go again:
Thank you so much again for useful information, Dr. Clarke! I have some questions:
Will the decisions at the Opec-meeting in end November drive the oilprice towards 100 US?
I understand the Rv needs funding, but how is Vietnam funding since "it´s ready to go anytime"?
Who is deciding when Vietnam can go? US, IMF, UN, China?
Please come back soon and let your insights shine upon us all.
Take care and thank´s for everything so far.
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GeoworldGeorgewest link
10/11/2016 12:52:35 pm
Dr Clarke God Bless U and your Family. Stick with us we like your info. Some people don't understand this deal. That's ok. Please stick with us till we get over this fence. lol Hopefully 2017 we will be Smiling. XOX
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Gia
10/11/2016 01:41:10 pm

Dear Dr. Clarke,

Thank you for posting, FINALLY the one I was waiting for.

I have lots of questions. Lets gamble shall we.. I am giving Recaps permission to pass along my email address.

If you so choose. If not THANK YOU for everything from this very second way back to January. You brought excitement back to the ride can't ask for more.

Take Care of Yourself.
Gia~
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Tom
10/11/2016 03:12:35 pm
Hi Dr Clark,
Thank you for being truthful. We like your post.
It is just so many people have different motives for posting
different info. It is all just speculation like our investment.
The last revaluation took place in late January. I believe
most speculative investments happen in the winter months.

Tom
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[url=http://Dinar Recaps]Louise[/url] [url=http://Dinar Recaps]link[/url]
10/11/2016 05:11:24 pm
Again, thanks so much for the time you (all) pour into giving a slew of strangers a treasure trove of much-desired insight (not to mention inspiration).

As I ponder it all I wonder thusly: If major problem(s) defeat the planned "window" each and every time the IQD value is to be substantially increased, how is it to be done? At what point, if any, will the desired outcome outweigh the difficulties/tragedies at hand? Putting natural disasters to the side, is it realistic to believe there will ever be a sufficiently untroubled time frame where there is a "plan?"

Perhaps this question is nonsensical, but in your opinion is it possible to make a virtually lightning-fast change that would preempt opposition? And if so, do you think it would ever be attempted?
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by Mountain Goatee
on Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:31 pm
 
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GERRY MAGUIRE CRYING BECAUSE I'VE MESSED WITH HIM

Well said Kenlej. Very same for me. Expecting the first granddaughter in December. She will be grand kid #4 plus 2 step grand kids now. Makes everything worth it for sure. Smile

:throb: :throb: :throb: :throb:
by Purpleskyz
on Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:53 am
 
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RayRat Call 10/7/16

RayRen:  Good afternoon, superfantastic TNT family!  Today is Friday, October 7, 2016, yours truly RayRen98 here.  This call should be even shorter than the last one!  There is no brand new intel to give you;  we are still on schedule so far as I know.  Everything should be done by Wednesday of next week, although we can see it any time up to that day.  Iraqi cards should be funded.

Banks thought they would see us yesterday;  some folks had appointments and attempted to exchange but it would not grow through. They are going back the first of the week.  Some with appointments today, but we haven’t heard from them yet.  Supposedly some private exchanges have taken place – haven’t confirmed those.  We should be realizing some of that activity based on where we are in the grand scheme of things.  I had expected to be hearing about private exchanges, so I’m not surprised to be hearing that.  I know the banks were expecting to see a LOT of us yesterday.  Some banks are bringing people in to talk, and suggesting they bring in their currency to exchange.

One or two of my sources have dried up, and I’m assuming that they have concluded their business and now have to keep quiet.  You can infer a lot from what a person doesn’t say.  If they say they will report back after their exchange, and they don’t report back, what with NDAs… that may be an indicator.  I’m okay with just knowing we are in the window still.

Questions from the TNT forum:

Q:  Last night on the National News it was reported Rothschild was banned from entering Russia.?  A:

Q:  Can you please tell us how many zeros will be taken off the dinar or dong – at least a guess??  A:  I have not heard of any zeros being taken of either one of those… never.

Q:  I am having trouble getting on the conference calls on my cell phone.  A:  I suggest going to the internet or try 805-360-1075.

Q:  Is the time frame showing down?  A:  I think it just feels like that.

Live questions:

865/404 caller:  What impact, if any, are the issues at Deutsche Bank and the GBP affecting this RV/GCR.

RayRen:  I don’t think there is enough information out there to answer that. \

Caller:  Do you think it is all a distraction, or just another issue out there?  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas, and I’m looking forward to RV day ten days later to help humanity.

210 caller:  [Appreciation]  Is it wise to ask if there is a contract rate for the dong?

RayRen:  We’ve always heard that there would be.  I’m expecting a contract rate for ever currency being exchanged!

Caller:  I had a conversation with branch managers this morning to see if the bank rate had evolved;  they hadn’t but the managers agreed to phone me when it does.  Any chance of getting onto OpenMic?

RayRen:  Lately we’ve had a few people drop off, which opens up the room for new people to come in.  OM was full, and that’s why we never promoted it.  Are you on your cell phone?  Do you have my email address?  I will text it to you;  we have room for one more, so I’ll get you into OpenMic.  Hopefully there will still be a need for OM!  In the next chapter, OM won’t play that heavily, but it will still be a good tool to tie up loose ends.  We’ll be heading on a different level of education and information.

Caller:  I look forward to receiving the contact information.  Vegas, Vegas, Vegas!

619 caller:  All this currency is controlled by the US government, right?  If so, and if the government has given this task to the banks, then I’m guessing that the movement of monies after exchange may not be in concert with constitutional principles.  [??]

RayRen:  I don’t have the detailed information to answer your question intelligently.

610 caller:  Please go to www.tntsuperfantastic.com;  click on the DONATE button, etc.  [You can also send a check to Ray Renfrow P.O. Box 1748, Elm City, NC 27822.]

386 caller:  If people are exchanging, how is double-dipping prevented.

RayRen:  It probably isn’t.  Some people have signed agreements that they won’t buy more currency, but some have not.  I’m hearing both sides of that.

Caller:  What if there is a busy signal for 24 hours on the 800 numbers – do you stay on the line?  Or do you keep on calling in until someone answers?

RayRen:  I would keep trying until I’m successful.

Caller:  Can I get on the OpenMic as well, please?  [Appreciation]

RayRen:  I will text you with the details – I can squeeze in two.

406 caller:  I wonder if I could be #3 to get on OpenMic?

RayRen:  I could have sworn I heard your voice on OM!  I’ll make you #3

Caller:  Where can I find the list of Ten Things to remember?  I know I have to change my number before going to the bank…

RayRen:  It’s not a hard and fast rule, but if you want to avoid being solicited…

609 caller:  You said on the call last week that people you know with SKRs were to be paid – anything on that?

RayRen:  That didn’t happen, to the best of my knowledge… or at least not yet. They were not given any reasons, but that might not matter after today.

601 caller:  Did you say something about ‘next week’?

RayRen:  I said the same thing on Wednesday, that it will go any time from now until next Wednesday, according to the information I have.   It’s not an exact science.

Caller:  How are people exchanging without rates?

RayRen:  Banks have the rates on their screens, and some have accepted lower rates in order to have earlier exchanges… or that is what I believe.

601 caller:  I’ve been sending you emails for 3-4 weeks.  I bought currency without my spouse’s knowledge, and we are thinking of divorce.  I think you told one lady that you have information hat might help her with that situation. Can you give me the same?

RayRen:  I guess we can work that out.  I didn’t realize there were so many potential breakups – lots of people sending me emails.  I missed yours or didn’t have time to respond.  How about you call me when it’s convenient to you.  I’ll send you my number.

517 caller:  If you still have a spot open, I’d love to join OpenMic, too.

RayRen:  You would be #4 then.

409 caller:   We are 85 miles east of Houston;  do you know of any exchange places betwwen Beaumont and Houston?

RayRen: Any bank that is exchanging foreign currency will (at the proper time) probably exchange your currency.  If/when we put out the 800 numbers, they will tell you where to go.  In any case, call the banks in your area to find out if they do foreign currency exchange, without mentioning dinar or dong. If they do, they’ll probably exchange you once this pops.  Also ask if they verify it on site.  The banks that say Yes will be the bans that you start with, even if you call the 800 number.  “You better shop around…” This is your financial future!

Caller:  [Appreciation]

RayRen:  As long as your mentality is ‘pay it forward’, that’s pay enough for me.  Provide the opportunity for others to learn what you have learned here.  I heard from a person the other day who went into the bank, and ‘based on what you guys have been teaching us, I felt 100% in control the whole hour and a half I was there.”  They didn’t get the exchange done, but made a further appointment. This story tells me that this person will be ready when RV time comes.  We are talking, sharing and teaching;  when it happens, we will have that information  but until then we work on getting the pertinent information so you can be prepared and be in control when it goes.

909 caller:  In the past, we listened to Tony and DC, and there was a lot of discussion about documentation from meetings about the RV here and in Iraq, both hard copies of deposit slips, and audio recordings;  they said that if the government tried to squeeze us out, they would use that evidence to make sure we are taken care of  Is that still a fact?

RayRen:  Yes, and they intend to keep their end of the bargain.  As long as we are still hearing about contract rates, we continue to play the game as designed.

305 caller:  I was hoping to join OpenMic – could you put me on the list, please?  Also, I am still waiting for the information for the meet-and-greet in Miami!

RayRen:  Why didn’t you remind me?!  You don’t have access to the TNT site?  Oh, man… a few more people will probably leave and create some more openings.  I will make a note of your number and send you the information.  I’m sorry we missed you!

313 caller:  I was also trying for a spot on OM…

RayRen:  There were only four spots that I know about.  Now I’m probably going to get hit with a bunch of emails.  You’re in Detroit, right?  Why didn’t I see you while I was there?

310 caller:  I would also like to join OpenMic.

RayRen:  I will see what I can do.

[I had to leave the call here; for the closing statement, check Sunny’s Cliff Notes.]

RayRen played I Believe:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DYrqOUKLtA
by Ssmith
on Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:04 pm
 
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Frank26 says there should be a change currency THIS YEAR

 Frank26  


[size=18]ARTICLE: “The catastrophic corruption between banks and companies in the sale of the American Dollar is coming to an end.” 

NINE EXAMPLES that CORRUPTION in IRAQ is being killed
:

#1 -- The policing of the United Nation groups, new laws, new banking systems being implemented.
#2 -- The currency auctions are being monitored. That was the hole in the bottom of the ship.
#3 – No more false names / dead people / false companies, etc.
#4 The USD needs to stop being used (MCP) – which has been used at the borders
#5 – No more false bills / PO’s.
#6 – No false accounts...
#7 – No more diffusion of payments to false areas (building fake parks, etc).
#8The antiquated banking systems had to stop
#9 – No more false passports to transport IQD out of country.

[/size]
  Bagdad, Basrah, Mosul, Erbil, Sulaimaniyah...These 5 cities are where the five Central Banks of Iraq are.  We have 4 out of 5...secured...all that is missing is Mosul.  In other words...the catastrophic corruption (think GOI/CBI) between banks (think Auctions) and companies in the sale of the American Dollar is coming to an end.”  So, they are following the IMF’s instructions...inventorying their product (currency).

  IMO … I believe we are going to see a budget...by the 3rd week of this month...and see a change in their monetary policy and a change in their currency...THIS YEAR! I’m not giving you a date...but before the end of this year...we are going to see a change.

~~~~~~~~~~~

BONDS...in my opinion, it does appear that the USA will not back up the BONDS that the GOI wants to sell. Remember, back in December, the IMF told the GOI that they were going to help them – if they raised the value of their currency.  Well, here we are...upon the prepuces of the monetary reform...and Abadi saying they have done everything...well...IF... you have done everything...they get LOANS don’t they?

 I have not seen the CBI website show me a new rate for the IQD.  They have not changed it officially.  DO THEY WANT THE LOANS...the 640 Million Dollar Loan.

 They will get that WHEN they raise the value of their currency...and if they don’t...they won’t get the BONDS.  This is not bad news.

 This is fantastic news!

10.05.2016
by Ponee
on Thu Oct 06, 2016 11:42 am
 
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The Big Fat Yuan

25 Jul 2015  




Most people in the USA and the world for that matter do not understand the world currency market, nor do they care. We move along with our life, bitch about the price of gas and the ever increasing price of goods and services due to inflation. Life is good and we dabble a little here and there in investments in the stock markets and occasionally glance at our 401k.



So why should I care about the foreign exchange market Forex?

The foreign exchange trading  is some 60 times larger than annual world trade. A lot of money is won or lost in the foreign exchange market!



OK, so why do I care again? It’s not like I’m going to trade currencies or get involved in that crazy Forex stuff.


We have all heard one time or another that the US dollar is the reserve currency.

What does that mean, RESERVE CURRENCY?

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_currency

A reserve currency (or anchor currency) is a currency that is held in significant quantities by governments and institutions as part of their foreign exchange reserves. The reserve currency is commonly used in international transactions and often considered a hard currency or safe-haven currency. People who live in a country that issues a reserve currency can purchase imports and borrow across borders more cheaply than people in other nations because they don’t need to exchange their currency to do so.



So that is why we get stuff so cheap and control the world economy by profiting on the fact that other countries have to pay an exchange rate to convert their money into dollars to buy something.



US Dollar accounts for over 62% of the trade and the Euro about 22%.

This is why we can lean on other nations and prevent money laundering throughout the world.



Well, not so fast!

Somebody has been making a concerned effort to change the scope of reserve currencies.

Any guesses?

That’s right China.




China has been lobbying the IMF to become a reserve currency. The expected date is somewhere in October, 2015.

Yeah so what?



So consider steps already taken by China.


  1. China has established Yuan Exchanges World Wide

  2. Countries are bypassing the US Dollar by using these Yuan Exchanges like Russia. Even Canada is bypassing the US dollar which is why their currency is worth more than ours now.

  3. China has a massive Gold reserve.

  4. China’s Executive Order NCO1 – also known as the New Currency Order


OK, I get the first 2 on the list, China is bypassing the US dollar and we are losing billions a year in exchange rates, but what do I care about #3 (Gold) or #4 (NCO1)?

#3 – We all know that our currency (US Dollar) was once backed by gold and that Nixon took us off the Gold Standard. Most people don’t remember though that FDR (Franklin Roosevelt) also took us off the Gold Standard. To save a lot of time and make the story short, because I really don’t want to go into a lot of detail about the Gold Standard, you can read about it here: http://useconomy.about.com/od/monetarypolicy/p/gold_history.htm

Basically the gold reserve got so depleted, Nixon took us off the Gold Standard and the economy and everything else started to “go to hell in a hand basket“. Nixon had to freeze wages and prices to prevent an economic collapse. Hence the reason for Executive Order 11615.

Silver rose almost 700% in value during that period. If you don’t have some physical silver, the time is now to buy it while it’s still really cheap.

It is argued that we have little or no gold left. Ron Paul has questioned this issue and has repeatedly called for an audit of Fort Knox.

Source: http://www.wallstreetdaily.com/2013/07/16/fort-knox-gold/



Remember old cliches like “The Golden Rule” or “He who has the Gold, makes the rules”? Well folks, if we really don’t have a substantial cache of gold, we will not be making the rules.



#4 – China’s Executive Order NCO1



China is already bypassing the US Dollar with the Yuan Exchanges. The extent of which threatens the US Dollar as the primary reserve currency. It is predicted that if the Yuan becomes the primary reserve currency (over 50%) and replaces the US Dollar, your savings, stocks and bonds will be dramatically devalued against the Yuan the new primary reserve currency because the US Dollar will no longer be needed for trade and the Petro Dollar which I have discussed before, will cease to exist.



Besides buying silver, gold and other commodities and precious metals, many individuals and banks have been buying what is called A-Shares and B-Shares.

So what are those?



A shares are shares of the Renminbi currency that are purchased and traded on the Shanghai and Shenzhen stock exchanges. This is contrast to Renminbi B shares which are owned by foreigners who cannot purchase A-shares due to Chinese government restrictions.



Source: http://lexicon.ft.com/Term?term=A_share%2FB_share-markets

But in the end, the Chinese control these markets, so do you really think they will play fair even if you hedge your bet with A/B Shares? The Chinese could literally wipe out foreign investments, taking your money and pocketing a lot of your cash.

I think Obama would have his excuse to declare martial law and take your guns suspending all elections and declaring himself King.

Welcome to the age of: “The Big Fat Yuan”

Update: Well as I have mentioned folks

RE: But in the end, the Chinese control these markets, so do you really think they will play fair even if you hedge your bet with A/B Shares? The Chinese could literally wipe out foreign investments, taking your money and pocketing a lot of your cash.

Response: The Chinese devaluation of the Yuan twice from 6.0 to 6.4 Yuan for each USD by 8/12/2015 has of course had investors, especially in the A/B shares shirking. Plus the Chinese have banned large share holders from selling their shares for 6 months. What do you think the Chinese have in store for everyone in the next six months from July 2015 to Christmas? I don’t think they will give everyone the present they expect. China just made a bunch of money at the large banks that invested their future in these shares. Who do you think the big banks are going to look too, to recover their loses? That’s right. YOU!



Banks include and are also own oil companies are taking a major hit. Chances are they also own your mortgage.



IMF just announced that the Yuan is now a recognized reserve currency as of 10-23-2016 and has over taken the Euro. Euro was 22%, USA dollar 62%. So now the Yuan is over 22%? Somebody is losing the currency market and you want to bet who it is? That’s right, the USA dollar.



Expect around Feb-April area to have your retirement accounts to shrink to 20-30% of what they are worth. You ready for that?



Who is heavily invested in the oil companies and why you should care if the banks fail? This article may open up your eyes: http://www.api.org/~/media/Files/Statistics/Who-Owns-US-Oil-and-Natural-Gas-Companies-Shapiro-Pham-study.pdf

http://dickrundell.com/the-big-fat-yuan/
by Ponee
on Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:49 pm
 
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You Are Being “Played”

You Are Being “Played”

September 27, 2016 by Dane Arr

Topics tagged under 4 on Dinar Daily - Page 3 Violin-animated1The RV will happen when the “Working Out” Vibration is strong enough that it reaches the Tipping Point and goes.

Even though we in Dinarland think we are helping the RV go, we are being Played by CABAL tricks to keep it from going. You are being used and you don’t even know it. Here is how they are “Playing You” to keep the RV from happening. There are two main groups that are being manipulated, the Un-Aware General Public, and the Aware Dinarland.

How Negative or Positive Vibration Influence Events

The whole point is that there has to be a high Vibration of Working Out, to support and Cause the High Vibration Working Out RV Event. Simply stated: High Working Out Vibrations Create Working Out Events. On the other hand, increased NOT Working Out Vibrations prevent good things from happening (Not Supported) and instead create/cause bad (not working out) things to happen.

How “They” Play The Un-Aware General Public

Of course, the General Public has no Idea about the RV/NESARA that will change their lives for the better. This is a GREAT (Working Out) event that is “Pending” in their future. When will it happen for them? Simple, when the vibration of working out is strong enough to tip the scales toward starting the (Working Out) RV/NESARA event.
So, what do the CABAL do to keep the General Public’s Vibrations low? They have shootings which scare people into worrying. They bring in immigrants to take their jobs so that the general public stress over that issue. They put lead in their water, pollute the environment, threaten Martial Law, offer unsuitable candidates for president. They do everything they can to scare people into worry and fear to keep the vibration low preventing “Good – Working Out” things from happening.
The Un-Aware General Public is being played just like a fiddle. Pluck this string and they are mad, pluck another string and they are afraid, and pluck another string and they worry that there will be war, or martial law or some other catastrophe.
However, there is a VERY HUGE benefit of all this manipulation of the General Public, for every pain, worry and sorrow, they wish for and hope for things to get better. This is creating a HUGE “Potential” working out vibration waiting to be activated. That is, when the RV/NESARA does happen, and they will realize that everything they ever hoped for is coming true, they will swing their vibrations to the working outside so fast and hard that everything good can start happening all at once. At that point, when you have the entire General Public move their vibration to the Working out, high vibration side, the CABAL are finished. there will be NO vibration support for their agenda.

How “They” Play Dinarland

It is easy to Play the General Public because they have no idea they are being played. They think that all these false flag events are real and everything on TV and in the news is real. But we in Dinarland know better. We know the game the CABAL plays with the sleeping Public, but, we are being played in a different way, and don’t even know it. Here is how.
Remember that the “Dividing Line” is between Working Out and NOT Working Out. They Play the sleeping public by using false flag events, for example, to get the General Public to believe things are not working out (Low Vibration). However, we think that we are smarter than that because we know that those events are staged and so we are not tricked or influenced to the Not Working Out Vibrations side.
Guess What? They know that play doesn’t work on you, so they use one that does. They infiltrate Dinarland with fake Dinarland members and they get you to think that things are not working out for you. They keep telling you that the RV/NESARA will not happen, or that it will be much later, or that the rates will be very low. That has kept you worried and stressed for a long time…. But times are changing.
While these “Plays” have been effective for a long time to keep Dinarland down in a not working out state of mind, their effectiveness is now dropping. We know the RV/NESARA is going to happen, and now we can tell that it will be happening very soon, and Dinarland knows to ask for the higher rates no matter what they have been told. This is causing the Working Out Vibration to rise up and get stronger and stronger. Frankly it is just about to go…. But, it hasn’t. Why not?

The “Plays” That No Longer Work In Dinarland

They lost the “It will never RV” play because everyone knows it will. They lost the “You have to be in a group” play because everyone knows that it not true, in fact you are probably better off exchanging individually. They lost the “no such thing as NESARA” play because clearly there is, and it is way bigger and way better than we ever knew. They lost the “ZIM won’t revalue or is worthless” play because as it turns out, it is the most valuable currency on the Planet. What does this mean? It means that you aren’t going to feel bad about the RV, NESARA, Exchanging Individually, or the Value on ZIM and the other currencies. In short you feel strongly that it is working out, and you should, which means you are bringing in RV/NESARA even Faster!!!!

The Newest “Play” Being Used Against Dinarland

They have a new way to make you mad, feel like things are not working out and to keep you upset generally. That play is the “Blame The GURUs” Play. This is a genius Play by the CABAL. The way it works is if they can get you to distrust and be upset with the very people who are bringing you the most information, they not only keep you upset, but they can also keep the truth from you.
Think about it for a minute. Who are the GURUs that are getting the most heat? That’s right, the ones who are bringing you the most behind the scenes info on the defeat of the CABAL. How they are being arrested, and all the other things that are being done to them and what they are losing etc. Don’t you know that is PSY-OPS 101? Infiltrate their group and get people in that group to distrust and hate the very people who are helping them. STOP IT WITH THIS GURU HATING ALREADY!!

We Are The Key That Unlocks The RV/NESARA Event

People who are “Un-Aware” have very little influence on the World. They just go with the flow no matter which way it is going. It is not to say that their vibration doesn’t count, because it does, but, they are not voting for themselves, but we are. Since we know and are Aware, we DECIDE our thoughts and that makes us thousands of times more powerful than those who do not. So, how do we get the General Public to change their mind about how bad the World is, and get them on our side of “Working out?”
VERY SIMPLY BY HOLDING OUR OWN VIBRATION ON WORKING OUT. How can we expect the public, who has nothing to believe in, to think that things are working out, when we, holding Millions, Billions and Trillions of dollars worth of currency in our hands, knowing we are about to be living the life of our dreams, can’t think that it is working out?
If this were a corporation, we would be the voting members and the general public votes would be decided for them by us. WE MUST VOTE WORKING OUT AT ALL TIMES BECAUSE OUR VOTES COUNT!!!!!
Re-Think Where You Are (Right Now)
I mean RIGHT NOW, throw everything out the window and reset your mind.
Ready?
#1) You are holding currencies that are worth at least Millions of Dollars, if not Billions and even Trillions. Think about that…
#2) You know that means that for the first time in your life you will really be able to do what you want to do and live your dream life. Think about that…
#3) You know that good times are coming which allows you to feel confident in the future which most of the world doesn’t get to feel. Think about that…
#4) You know that the Bad guys in the World are being eliminated and that this World will be at peace and you will be SAFE forever more. Think about that…
#5) You know that there will be a change in our government and governments around the World that will benefit mankind for once. Think about that…
#6) Speaking for the U.S., IRS and the Fed will be abolished forever and a much better and safer financial system will soon take its place. Think about that…
#7) You know that this is an unstoppable World event that is just about to happen. Think about that…
Now, take a moment and reflect on just how good things really are for you and for the World. Are you feeling just how good it is for you? Would you say that things are REALLY WORKING OUT FOR YOU? Good! Now stay there.
Does it really matter, in the big picture, if a GURU gets the date right or not? Will that stop you from getting everything that is coming to you or change all the good that is happening in the World? No! You know the answer is no. You cannot make a case for hating the very people who are trying their best to bring you all the info they can, at their own expense of time, and criticism they suffer.
How Pathetic of Us
How pathetic of us to be talked into hating our own? You know that other people are working and dying to bring this magnificent change to the World for our Benefit. Are we really going to let the infiltrators keep our hopes down and talk us into turning on our OWN INTEL PROVIDERS? That is a SICK CABAL PLAY.
I can easily imagine the CABAL Planning session, One evil doer says to the others:
“Those people in Dinarland are finding out to much about what is going on. Their Intel Providers are saying to much about us and the RV!!!! They are feeling great about the RV/NESARA no matter what we do!!!!”
Then they complain “What can we do about it?”
Then they hatch a their evil plan: “Let’s get them to turn against their own Intel providers, that way they will distrust everything they are bringing into Dinarland!!!”
Then they complain “How can we do that when everything they are saying is true?”
They figure out the way: “That is simple. Since most of what they are telling can’t be proved yet, we can say that it is all lies, and we can also say that they never get the dates right!!!! If we can get them to distrust their own Intel providers, they will fight among themselves and lower their own vibrations.”
Did this meeting actually happen? Maybe. We know that there are Trolls, moles, and nay-sayers in our midst. They all want to bring us down. Will they succeed? That is up to you.

Know This: You Already Have It Made!


  • You are holding Valuable Currency in a World that is changing for the good. You already have it made.
  • You will soon be living the life of your dreams. You already have it made.
  • The environment will soon be pollution free and our food will be good to eat. You already have it made.
  • You will be living in a World that is Safe in every way. You already have it made.
  • Bla, Bla, Bla… No Matter What… You already have it made.
  • The Guru quotes a Date that does not happen… So What, You already have it made.
  • The Guru says something that is unproven… So What, You already have it made.
  • The Guru says something that is improvable… So What, You already have it made.
  • The Guru says something that sounds crazy… So What, You already have it made.
  • Something happens, or doesn’t happen… So What, You already have it made.

The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that “You Already Have It Made.” Nothing else matters. The only question now is will it happen sooner or later? That my friend, lies in your hands. Will you stay in the hopeful, working out place of a high Vibration making it happen NOW, or will you fall for the Not working out tricks of the CABAL, causing your vibration to be very low forcing the RV/NESARA to wait a bit longer?
In Short: High Vibration of Happy, Working Out states of mind Speeds it up, while the Low Vibration of being unhappy, not working out, slows it way down.
As for me, I am staying very excited, expectant, and happy for whatever information I am offered. I know that it doesn’t matter whether it is accurate or not, so what! I am still holding valuable currency in a World changing for the good, meaning I already have it made. That is my Vibration and I am sticking with it no matter what!!!!!!
How about you?
May You Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams
 
Signed: One Who Believes


http://prepareforchange.net
by Purpleskyz
on Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:48 am
 
Search in: CHATTER from DINARIANS
Topic: You Are Being “Played”
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Boo Hoo, Cry Me A River! by One Who Believes


#1) We have the biggest most unprecedented change about to happen that the World has ever seen. The magnitude of this event can hardly be described much less experienced.What change? Define your terms in a concrete, measurable, definable and most importantly verifiable manner or it's nothing more than blah, blah, blah.

#2) It takes the Co-operation of 209 nations all of which have to not only agree on a common goal, but implement this HUGE undertaking in a unified effort, despite language, cultural, and philosophical differences, not to mention geographic divides.Sam already did a good job on this one, so refer to his post above.

#3) This HUGE Worldwide event has to be flawlessly implemented down to the last detail, without waking and disturbing the World population (General Public) and causing panic and unrest.Again, what huge global event? Have you been taking lessons from Gobbels? “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” In this case, the state would be the Gurus and their moderators who attack and/or ban anyone who dares to question their pronouncements from on high.

#4) This HUGE World-Wide change has to be undertaken not only quietly as not to disturb the unaware World public, but it has to be carried out in total secrecy to avoid complete financial catastrophe if the General Public prematurely found out about the GCR before it was done.

#5) This HUGE World-Wide event has to not only happen in secret, but it also has a delicate balance to maintain in Dinarland between what is disclosed and what is kept secret.

These two are just a rehash of number 3, so see my comments there.

-snipped for brevity-

#6) So, the final and some might say biggest hurdle, is protecting the sleeping public from the Desperate CABAL who want to not only hold on to their power, but they also want to kill off 70% of the World and will do anything to accomplish it.

There is no Cabal, white hats, black hats, Chinese Elders, Galactics, or any of those other horse poopoo terms. Show me one fact that says otherwise. Fact, that means it has to be provable, verifiable and documented.

#7) Then take all these important factors and mix them all together with the ever shifting circumstances. What is absolutely accurate Intel one minute is outdated a minute later with the blowing up of a bomb, someone getting killed or some other party reneging on agreements they signed. It is the most fluid event ever experienced on Earth. Since all the above is fiction and not fact, your statement is invalid.

#8) Then throw into the mix the Disinformation from the bad guys to dishearten the World, and the Disinformation from the Good Guys to catch the Bad guys, and who knows what is what after all that. The only disinformation is coming from the likes of you. No? The prove me wrong, provide solid, verifiable, documented facts to back up your assertions. Otherwise, you are nothing more than a liar.
by Kevind53
on Fri Sep 23, 2016 2:58 pm
 
Search in: GURU FICTION & PREDICTION DAILY
Topic: Boo Hoo, Cry Me A River! by One Who Believes
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Boo Hoo, Cry Me A River! by One Who Believes


 

Boo Hoo, Cry Me A River!

September 22, 2016

I heard that someone was throwing Bruce under the Bus because the Intel hasn't proven out yet. Boo Hoo, Cry Me A River. I would laugh, except that I want to show compassion for the poor soul who is so desperate that they would lash out like that.

This message is not for them as they are not in a position to receive it. I am not going to call anyone names either, because they are just like a wounded animal lashing out in sheer desperation and are unable to think clearly.

Instead, let us, the level headed people, use this as a Dinarland case study. For the rest of us, the picture is clear.

Shall we begin?
 Topics tagged under 4 on Dinar Daily - Page 3 Blog-cryin_orig
#1) We have the biggest most unprecedented change about to happen that the World has ever seen. The magnitude of this event can hardly be described much less experienced.

#2) It takes the Co-operation of 209 nations all of which have to not only agree on a common goal, but implement this HUGE undertaking in a unified effort, despite language, cultural, and philosophical differences, not to mention geographic divides.

#3) This HUGE Worldwide event has to be flawlessly implemented down to the last detail, without waking and disturbing the World population (General Public) and causing panic and unrest.

#4) This HUGE World-Wide change has to be undertaken not only quietly as not to disturb the unaware World public, but it has to be carried out in total secrecy to avoid complete financial catastrophe if the General Public prematurely found out about the GCR before it was done.

#5) This HUGE World-Wide event has to not only happen in secret, but it also has a delicate balance to maintain in Dinarland between what is disclosed and what is kept secret.

Then you have the millions of pesky Dinarland detectives, calling top sources, banks, watching the airports, monitoring the foreign press and countless other ways they are seeking and finding out information they shouldn't have (yet). Not only do they find out stuff that is supposed to be secret, but, then they blab it all over the net and to others who aren't supposed to know.

Is this picture getting clearer?

You not only have the biggest event in Human history, which requires the absolute cooperation of 209 nations, without disturbing the sleeping general public, while keeping this once in the History of the Earth event secret from the rest of Humanity, while trying their best to keep the Dinarland Detectives from exposing sensitive information, BUT, on top of all this, they have to fight the worst Satan worshiping evil the World has ever seen, who would kill anyone who got in their way.

#6) So, the final and some might say biggest hurdle, is protecting the sleeping public from the Desperate CABAL who want to not only hold on to their power, but they also want to kill off 70% of the World and will do anything to accomplish it.

#7) Then take all these important factors and mix them all together with the ever shifting circumstances. What is absolutely accurate Intel one minute is outdated a minute later with the blowing up of a bomb, someone getting killed or some other party reneging on agreements they signed. It is the most fluid event ever experienced on Earth.

#8) Then throw into the mix the Disinformation from the bad guys to dishearten the World, and the Disinformation from the Good Guys to catch the Bad guys, and who knows what is what after all that.

Then you have a few Information Providers like Bruce, who do their best to walk that tight Balance between informing Dinarland with what they want to know while at the same time protecting sensitive information from getting out to the Bad guys. God bless them for all they do for us.

Back To The Point

Now someone comes along and cries that the Go Time Intel or other Intel Bruce gave out was wrong? Are you kidding me? This has got to be the most pathetic thing I have ever heard.

Here we have a person, who most likely holds currency that will make them a Millionaire, Billionaire or even a Trillionaire. They are literally holding a golden ticket to the life of their dreams and they are complaining that the Intel is wrong?

I guarantee you that there are literally BILLIONS of other people in the World who would trade places with this person in a heartbeat and would be forever grateful for it, if they only knew about it... But they don't. I doubt they would complain because they would be too grateful to even have this opportunity for themselves and generations of their family.

I would say to this person who so publicly complained: "NO ONE OWES YOU ANYTHING. Be thankful for what you have and the incredibly fortuitous position you are in."

Here is a TIP: "Don't Read What You Don't Like."

The Bottom Line

The bottom line is that it is easy to forget how HUGE this whole thing is. Even I was surprised at the magnitude of this event as I wrote this out. We should remember that there are literally thousands of people who have been working on this change over for thousands of years, and many who have given everything (Died) so that we can be rich, have a dream life, and help World.

I know it is easy to get caught up in the moment over some little bit of Intel, but in the Big picture, it is so unimportant.

We have to understand that we are in a need to know status for our own good and the good of the World. We are lucky that we are here at all and know as much as we do. I know that some people are in desperate situations, but that is no excuse to take aim at people who are giving their time and effort to find out what is going on and letting us know to the best of their ability. It is wrong for us to demand that they have perfect Intel in an imperfect World.

Let's give our love to those who do their best to help us in whatever way they can. No Intel Provider deserves condemnation when they give us their best efforts. Even though the Intel Providers OWE US NOTHING, they still give us their time effort anyway.

Please make some effort to show them your appreciation for all they do. That is the LEAST we can do for them in return for all they have done for us.

To All Intel Providers

Thank You from the bottom of my Heart for all you do. I hope you know for every unhappy soul who complains, there are thousands of others who appreciates you and your efforts.

I am one of those who know how much work it is for you to keep us up to date on a regular basis and I thank you for it. It is my hope that you hear from those others who appreciate you as well.

May You All Get Everything You Want and Live The Life Of Your Dreams

Signed: One Who Believes
by Ponee
on Fri Sep 23, 2016 7:58 am
 
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Topic: Boo Hoo, Cry Me A River! by One Who Believes
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9/21/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

[b]Guru JohnnyWG:  [/b]QUOTE UN QUOTE "GOVERNOR SHABIBI STATES THEIR INTENTION IS TO HAVE THE STRONGEST RESERVE CURRENCY.  YOU CANNOT DO THAT WITH OUT AN RV


Guru Adam Montana:
  the Chapter 7 sanctions CAN be lifted independently, and they have been lifting them regularly for some time now. There are only a few left, and they are the big ones.  the final sanctions remaining prohibit Iraq from possessing any kind of WMD[weapons of mass destruction].  to allow the value of the Dinar to rise at this point in time, when Iraq basically has a hand tied behind it's back, would be foolish and irresponsible.  I believe there is a push to get Chapter 7 done ASAP. it's a steady progression and a calculated series of moves between Iraq and the world, in particular the IMF and the UN.  once the UN agrees to lift those chapter 7 sanctions, I don't see how the IMF can or would stop the rate from rising.

This is my opinion,  to sum it up: "If Iraq RVs too low, the big investors will come in strong and make all the profit." This is an understandable assumption, but it is WRONG.  yes, the big investors will come in and buy it up if they feel it is going to continue to rise and if the rate SHOULD be $1, but it comes out at .10  then of COURSE they will come in and buy it up!  but at that point, no more large denoms will be being printed.  the CBI has already accounted for the currency in circulation at that point.   follow closely here, I know many people want to hear it will RV to $3 or $4.   I think it will come out much lower, then climb up to that range because if they come out high, then they have an IMMEDIATE LIABILITY - a LOT of money owed to cash in the dinar currently in circulation but if they come out low, like at .10 - then they can grab up a bunch of the quick sellers, and resell at a higher rate,  remember, the CBI makes money on every transaction,  so the more times they can get people to buy and cash in, the more money they make. if they come out at .10, then raise to .15, then raise to .20. all the way to $3.00... they make MUCH more than if they do a straight RV to $3.   HOPEFULLY we will be able to hold our currency and...just wait until it hits $3 to sell.  if they place a limit on time to cash in the big notes, then we just take our profit and be happy.  I hope I'm wrong!

my opinion of it EVER rv'ing is absolutely yes.  in my opinion
Thanksgiving is PLENTY of time to get this thing done. So the surrounding months are close too.   HCL was not passed today. The agreements are in place but it is not officially lifted...don't buy into the hype unless you see it on a legitimate news site.  if you are a dinar investor, you will hear a lot of crazy things from bank rumors to alien takeovers, all of them claiming the RV is done...if you hear it on the street or on another site... I'm sorry, but most of the time those turn out to be 100% false.


Guru BGG:   all that crap about Maliki "having to" step down is just not the truth....It is a far easier and quicker solution for them to put a "muzzle" on him some other way and leave him in power (by 1/3 anyway).  him stepping down is obviously one scenario, not the one they have opted for.  Dr Shabibi doesn't "ask" anyone - he can pull the trigger right this second if he so desires.   It very well can happen soon.


Guru Med:   SHABIBI WAS TOLD BY PARLIAMENTS FINANCE COMMITTEE TO PLEASE DO A REPORT ON THE IMPACT ETC...HE SAID ALL WAS ALREADY DONE AND THE ENTIRE DRAFT WAS IN THERE ALSO.  LETS LOOK AT THE REASONS FOR THEM DOING THIS #1   HYPERINFLATION #2  INCREASED CORE INFLATION INDEX  #3  JUMP START THE ECONOMY  #4  ATTRACT INVESTORS.  SHABIBI SAID THAT THEY ARE CLOSING IN ON REDLINE AND HE WOULD DO IT HIMSELF.  HE DIDNT SAY A YEAR FROM NOW.  HE IS THE MAN, HE PULLS THE TRIGGER

I CAN JUST SEE THE CONVERSATION WITH MOON - MOON: STOP THREATENING COUNTRIES IN YOUR REGION.  MALIKI: NO.  MOON: SETTLE YOUR DEBTS WITH KUWAIT.  MALIKI: NO.  MOON: HONOR THE AGREEMENT YOU SIGNED WITH THE KURDS AND LIST.  MALIKI: NO.  MALIKI: BY THE WAY CAN YOU REALEASE US FROM CHAPTER VII, I THINK WE COMPLIED.  IF HE THINKS REVERSING HIS STAND ON SYRIA MAKES A DIFFERENCE WITH THE UN, IT DOESNT.  IT IS THE KUWAITI FILES STUPID, SETTLE THEM. 


Guru DonnieR:    ScottiG asked me to jump on my camel Harvey and travel to Baghdad to slap the crap out of Shabibi and tell him to pull the trigger and get this done as we are sick and tired of waiting. I told Shabibi I'm here to assist in making sure we have an RV before Friday and perhaps as soon as tomorrow. So far he has agreed with my terms, everything is going well and is on schedule.


Guru Okie Oilman:  IT IS A LITTLE HARD TO MAKE HEADS OR TAILS OUT OF INFORMATION RECEIVED TODAY BUT----TOMORROW MAY BE AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE R/V. IF NOT IT MAY GO INTO NEXT TUES WED OR THURS---RIGHT NOW AT THIS MOMENT THINGS LOOKS VERY GOOD

THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT THIS EXACT MOMENT IN TIME AS PER OKIE--THE ERBIL AGREEMENT HAS BEEN RATIFIED--THE HCL LAW HAS BEEN PASSED AND PUBLISHED--MOST OF CHAPTER 7 (EXCLUDING A MINOR ISSUE WITH KUWAIT) HAS BEEN RELEASED. SHABBI LAST WEEKEND MADE A SPEECH ENCOMPASSING THE FACT THE DINAR WILL BE R/V'D BY OCT 1 OR BEFORE. SHABBI STATED THE IQD WILL BE THE MOST VALUABLE CURRENCY IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND SOON WOULD BE CONSIDERED AS 1 OF THE WORLDS RESERVE CURRENCY. BANKS INTERNATIONALLY HAS BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE IMMINENCE OF THE R/V. MANY BANKS HAVE AND ARE SETTING UP ACCOUNTS FOR DINAR HOLDERS. THE IMF IS COUNTING HEAVILY ON THE R/V TO HELP THE ENTIRE WORLD’S ECONOMY TO RE-SET---OKIE SAID HE COULD GO ON AND ON BUT THIS SHOULD ALLEVIATE ANY CONCERNS OVER THE INEVITABILITY OR IMMINENCE OF THIS OCCURRING VERY SOON----THAT SHOULD SATISFY ALL WHO ARE CONCERNED OVER THEIR INVESTMENT AT THIS TIME----SIT BACK AND LET IT COME TO YOU----YOU CAN'T GO TO IT

MALIKI WAS FORCED INTO AGREEMENT ABOUT THE ERBIL AGREEMENT---HE HAD NO CHOICE. THE STOCK EXCHANGE IN BAGHDAD GOING GLOBAL HAS MORE FAR REACHING IMPLICATIONS THAN MOST CAN COMPREHEND. THERE ARE FAR TOO MANY ON THIS SITE POSTING THEIR OWN OPINIONS THAT HAS ENTIRELY NO RELEVANCE TO THE SITUATION THAT IS NOW UNFOLDING RIGHT BEFORE OUR EYES----YOUR PERSONAL OPINIONS MEAN NOTHING IN THE OVER ALL SCHEME OF THINGS


Guru Bulldog75:   THIS RATE SHOULD POST BETWEEN NOW WED AND BEFORE 2AM FRIDAY. THURSDAY LOOKS TO BE THE BEST DAY. IRAQ IS READY. THE BIG 3 BANKS ARE READY. SOME BANKS BEING DELIVERED DELA RUE MACHINES TODAY. MANAGERS AND PRES ARE ON ALERT. WE HAVE SOLID INFO THIS IS ABOUT TO DOMINO; AND ITS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER. THURSDAY IS MORE THE "TARGET TIME".

WE ARE NOW IN A "48 HOUR COUNTDOWN WINDOW"; THIS SHOULD POST BETWEEN 2AM NOW WED AND BEFORE 2AM FRIDAY; MOST LIKELY SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

OKIE DISCLOSED MANY HINTS EARLIER TONITE BUT I WAS SO SURPRISED THAT MANY EITHER MISSED IT OR WAS DISTRACTED BY THE OTHER EVENTS ON THE SITE. HE GAVE YOU EVERY HINT IN THE WORLD. WE HAVE MORE THAN AMPLE EVIDENCE THIS IS ABOUT TO DOMINO; AND ITS SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

THURSDAY IS MORE THE "TARGET TIME". THANKS FOR YOUR PRAYERS, LOVE, HAPPINESS THAT WE ALL SHARE WITH ONE ANOTHER. REMEMBER THAT ISX OPENS THURSDAY; THEY GOTTA HAVE 'MOOLA' TO OPERATE A WORLD CURRENCY.

THIS WILL PROBABLY IGNITE PRETTY MUCH NEAR SAME SEQUENCE FOR EVERYONE; DONT FEEL THERE WILL BE ANY MAJOR LAG TIME BETWEEN TIME ZONES. WE ARE IN GREAT SHAPE; THANKS FOR EVERYONE'S HELP. WE HAVE BEEN A GREAT TEAM TOGETHER; ALL OF YOU HAVE CONTRIBUTED IMMENSELY. THIS HAS BEEN FUN AND ADVENTURESOME.

THE GOOD LORD BRINGS HIS GIFTS OF LOVE AND CURRENCY TO US. BELIEVE AND KNOW. WE ARE CHOSEN TO BE HERE. WE ARE BLESSED AND HIGHLY FAVORED. SLEEP WELL. WE KNOW THERE IS MUCH TO DO FOR OUR FAMILIES.

WE ARE ALL A BLESSING AND LOVE FOR ONE ANOTHER. SUPER TEAM. THANK YOU ALL. WE ARE HERE AND ONE

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


Guru Bear5642:   ARE WE READY FOR AN RV???? AMAZING HOW EVERYTHING IS LINING UP. I AM WAITING ON A CALL FROM THE ASSISTANT MANAGER AT A FOREIGN CURRENCY EXCHANGE OFFICE AT A VERY LARGE BANK. NO ITS NOT ME ITS THE PEOPLE WHO TRUST ME AND THAT I HAVE FAVOR WITH GOT ANOTHER SOURCE COMING ON LINE SOMETIME THIS EVENING AND IT WILL BE A DOZY

I HAVE RECEIVED A RATE AND THEY ARE ALL THE SAME AND OKIE TOLD ME TO NOT PUT A RATE OUT UNTIL I SPEAK WITH HIM SORRY BUT IT IS A LOT HIGHER THAN 1.78 LOL.  I WILL CALL OKIE AFTER I GET MY SOURCE TO CALL ME I HAVE SOMEONE HELPING ME WHO I COMPLETELY TRUST AND I WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS RATE.  FROM WHATS COMING IN THE RATE IS SWEET.  OVER $3


Guru Randy Koonce:   Tomorrow should be a big day announcing GOI, and Erbil lets hope nothing gets in the way.


Guru Gary:  Each day we have gotten further confirmations…just waiting to see it in writing… had a call last night that said the HCL was completed and would be published and that the political situation was coming to a head over there and would be published…don’t know how long it takes to be published…the process of releasing this has not been aborted….Was just on hold...everyone just waiting for the light to change and everyone to be able to cash in…that meeting in the UN to take the final pieces of Ch. 7 away…. Caught us off guard cause we thought that was all done.


Guru TNT Tony:  TONY says it is good news – confirmed and make extra calls we are very close – we got HCL approved again and I got the article again as we saw this 3 weeks ago and again today the difference is this will show up in the gazette or its already there in the gazette….

We saw the TV explanations of the lower denoms this weekend too – we got confirmation about lower denoms being out now and the HCL and this is coming from inside sources in Bagdad who work and live in Baghdad and they are a part of this that’s all I can tell you….

Lower Denoms, HCL, Erbil Agreement DONE – and one thing left to do ………. Banks were changing on the screens today and extra people will be coming in this week based on the info we are getting, FOREX see things happening on their boards and received memos to get ready for transformation…We are hearing good news and I see it happening by Friday but I think sooner we will NOT make it by Friday…

TONY STATES we are almost done and the last 10 days we had ridiculous reports, smoke and bad info and other places we could not believe the uproar we saw this past weekend on other sites…… BUT today the news is coming out so HIGH I can’t even say it..


Guru Checkmate Dan:   Dan says good news going round to verify this and confirmations are coming out of everywhere – not pump this up or hype this up or get too excited and we heard the wolf cry but it looks really good – nothing is happening but MORE confirmation of things moving forward…

Dan states some are looking for this tonight – He feels that this is something he can’t dispute and if it happens it has to happen quick – if he does not happen by Friday it has to wait till after the weekend… But this could happen tonight in their morning… but if not by Friday it will be after…  an states we are extremely close and it could take place before the morning or it could push this off or not before Friday so we are really close – this should be a good night…

 
Guru Poppy2:   THERE ARE LESS THAN 1MILLION OF US DINARIANS INCLUDING THE CORPS THAT HOLD DINAR. WE HOLD JUST OVER 8 BILLION DINARS INCLUDING ALL CORPORATIONS. BUT OUR TREASURY BACK IN 2004 HAD 4.2 TRILLION DELIVERED TO THE FRONT DOOR ACCORDING TO THE COL. THAT DELIVERED IT DOOR TO DOOR FROM THE CBI TO THE UST. THINGS AARE LOOKING VERY GOOD FOR THIS WEEK OR BEFORE THE FIRST DAY OF OCT. KEEP YOUR FAILTH LIFTED UP AND I CONGRADULATE THE DEWEY ROUND TABLE GROUP THERE INTEL LAST EVENINGS CC WAS ALL CONFIRMED TO THE LETTER TODAY THROUGH THE MEDIA. RIGHT NOW THE KURDISTAND LEADERS ARE SURELY OUR FRIENDS AND ARE PUSHING FOR COMPLETION. I APPLAUDE ALL THE MODS ON THIS ROOM FOR THEIR SERVICE AND AM GLAD TO HAVE SERVED THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WITH ALL OF YOU BLESS WEVERYONE HE POPPY2

I AM RESERVING MY DECISION ABOUT COUNTING mALIKI OUT OF THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS AS LONG AS HE IS IN THE PM OFFICE WE CAN'T DEPEND ON ANY INFORMATION ABOUT HIS EFFECTIVENESS. POPPY2

AS BAD AS I HATE TO SAY IT AT THIS STAGE WE ACTUALLY NEED HIM TO STAY IN OFFICE TILL THE RV IS COMPLETE. OTHERWISE THEY WILL BE A LONG TIME REPLACING HIM AND GETTING ALL DOCUMENTATION COMPLETED AGAIN AND THROUGH PARLIMENT ALL OVER. POPPY2
by Ssmith
on Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:53 pm
 
Search in: MANY MANY YEARS AGO in DINAR-LAND
Topic: 9/21/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND
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Views: 1152

Note from Tom

…And how to stop self limiting beliefs so that you may start experiencing more freedom, happiness, and love.

Based on ancient Toltec wisdom, Don Miguel Ruiz presents the readers with a powerful code of conduct that can rapidly transform lives for the better – The Four Agreements.
With all of the innumerable media influences, peer pressures, and conformity institutions, it’s far too easy to forget who we are, lose touch with your root being, and become a product of the toxic environment from which many of us live.
Ruiz shows us how to take our life back.  
Each agreement focuses on the idea of developing yourself first and training your mind so that you may see the world in new a light and resultantly interact with it in a more optimal, honest, and fulfilling way.
Below is a summery of each of The Four Agreements followed by our Top 10 Quotes list derived from the book.  Take note of any quote that makes you think and leave us some of your thoughts (or favorite quotes from the book) in the comments section below!  Enjoy!
 

The Four Agreements Summary:

Be Impeccable With Your Word – Speak with integrity.  Say only what you mean.  Avoid using the word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others.  Use the power of your word in the direction of truth and love.
Don’t Take Anything Personally – Nothing others do is because of you.  What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream.  When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won’t be the victim of needless suffering.
Don’t Make Assumptions – Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want.  Communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness, and drama.  With just this one agreement, you can completely transform your life.
Always Do Your Best – Your best is going to change from moment to moment; it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick.  Under any circumstance, simply do your best, and you will avoid self-judgement, self-abuse, and regret.
 

 Top 10 Quotes List from The Four Agreements:

#10

“Action is about living fully. Inaction is the way that we deny life. Inaction is sitting in front of the television every day for years because you are afraid to be alive and to take the risk of expressing what you are. Expressing what you are is taking action.”

#9

“Doing your best is taking the action because you love it, not because you’re expecting a reward. Most people do the exact opposite: They only take action when they expect a reward, and they don’t enjoy the action. And that’s the reason why they don’t do their best.”

#8

“If I love myself I will express that love in my interactions with you, and then I am being impeccable with the word, because that action will produce a like reaction. If I love you, then you will love me. If I insult you, you will insult me. If I have gratitude for you, you will have gratitude for me.  If I’m selfish with you, you will be selfish with me.”

#7

“We don’t need to justify love; it is there or not there. Real love is accepting other people the way they are without trying to change them. If we try to change them, this means we don’t really like them.”

#6

“Gossiping has become the main form of communication in human society. It has become the way we feel close to each other, because it makes us feel better to see someone else feel as badly as we do. There is an old expression that says, ‘Misery likes company,’ and people who are suffering in hell don’t want to be all alone.”

#5

“Nothing other people do is because of you. It is because of themselves. All people live in their own dream, in their own mind; they are in a completely different world from the one we live in. When we take something personally, we make the assumption that they know what is in our world, and we try to impose our world on their world.  Even when a situation seems so personal, even if others insult you directly, it has nothing to do with you.  What they say, what they do, and the opinions they give are according to the agreements that they have in their own minds.”

#4

“You can only be you when you do your best. When you don’t do your best you are denying yourself the right to be you. That’s a seed that you should really nurture in your mind. You don’t need knowledge or great philosophical concepts. You don’t need the acceptance of others. You express your own divinity by being alive and by loving yourself and others.”

#3

“We have the need to be accepted and to be loved by others, but we cannot accept and love ourselves. The more self-love we have, the less we will experience self-abuse. Self-abuse comes from self-rejection, and self-rejection comes from having an image of what it means to be perfect and never measuring up to that ideal.  Our image of perfection is the reason we reject ourselves; it is why we don’t accept ourselves the way we are, and why we don’t accept others the way they are.”

#2

“The world is very beautiful and very wonderful.  Life can be very easy when love is your way of life.  You can be loving all the time.  This is your choice.  You may not have a reason to love, but you can love because to love makes you so happy. Love in action only produces happiness. Love will give you inner peace. It will change your perception of everything.”

#1

“When you feel good, everything around you is good, when everything around you is great, everything makes you happy. You are loving everything that is around you, because you are loving yourself. Because you like the way you are. Because you are happy with your life. You are happy with the movie that you are producing, happy with your agreements with life. You are at peace, and you are happy. You live in that state of bliss where everything is so wonderful, and everything is so beautiful.  In that state of bliss you are making love all the time with everything that you perceive.”
by kenlej
on Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:07 am
 
Search in: CHATTER from DINARIANS
Topic: Note from Tom
Replies: 8
Views: 2575

How to No Longer Take Things Personally

…And how to stop self limiting beliefs so that you may start experiencing more freedom, happiness, and love.

Based on ancient Toltec wisdom, Don Miguel Ruiz presents the readers with a powerful code of conduct that can rapidly transform lives for the better – The Four Agreements.
With all of the innumerable media influences, peer pressures, and conformity institutions, it’s far too easy to forget who we are, lose touch with your root being, and become a product of the toxic environment from which many of us live.
Ruiz shows us how to take our life back.  
Each agreement focuses on the idea of developing yourself first and training your mind so that you may see the world in new a light and resultantly interact with it in a more optimal, honest, and fulfilling way.
Below is a summery of each of The Four Agreements followed by our Top 10 Quotes list derived from the book.  Take note of any quote that makes you think and leave us some of your thoughts (or favorite quotes from the book) in the comments section below!  Enjoy!
 

The Four Agreements Summary:

Be Impeccable With Your Word – Speak with integrity.  Say only what you mean.  Avoid using the word to speak against yourself or to gossip about others.  Use the power of your word in the direction of truth and love.
Don’t Take Anything Personally – Nothing others do is because of you.  What others say and do is a projection of their own reality, their own dream.  When you are immune to the opinions and actions of others, you won’t be the victim of needless suffering.
Don’t Make Assumptions – Find the courage to ask questions and to express what you really want.  Communicate with others as clearly as you can to avoid misunderstandings, sadness, and drama.  With just this one agreement, you can completely transform your life.
Always Do Your Best – Your best is going to change from moment to moment; it will be different when you are healthy as opposed to sick.  Under any circumstance, simply do your best, and you will avoid self-judgement, self-abuse, and regret.
 

 Top 10 Quotes List from The Four Agreements:

#10

“Action is about living fully. Inaction is the way that we deny life. Inaction is sitting in front of the television every day for years because you are afraid to be alive and to take the risk of expressing what you are. Expressing what you are is taking action.”

#9

“Doing your best is taking the action because you love it, not because you’re expecting a reward. Most people do the exact opposite: They only take action when they expect a reward, and they don’t enjoy the action. And that’s the reason why they don’t do their best.”

#8

“If I love myself I will express that love in my interactions with you, and then I am being impeccable with the word, because that action will produce a like reaction. If I love you, then you will love me. If I insult you, you will insult me. If I have gratitude for you, you will have gratitude for me.  If I’m selfish with you, you will be selfish with me.”

#7

“We don’t need to justify love; it is there or not there. Real love is accepting other people the way they are without trying to change them. If we try to change them, this means we don’t really like them.”

#6

“Gossiping has become the main form of communication in human society. It has become the way we feel close to each other, because it makes us feel better to see someone else feel as badly as we do. There is an old expression that says, ‘Misery likes company,’ and people who are suffering in hell don’t want to be all alone.”

#5

“Nothing other people do is because of you. It is because of themselves. All people live in their own dream, in their own mind; they are in a completely different world from the one we live in. When we take something personally, we make the assumption that they know what is in our world, and we try to impose our world on their world.  Even when a situation seems so personal, even if others insult you directly, it has nothing to do with you.  What they say, what they do, and the opinions they give are according to the agreements that they have in their own minds.”

#4

“You can only be you when you do your best. When you don’t do your best you are denying yourself the right to be you. That’s a seed that you should really nurture in your mind. You don’t need knowledge or great philosophical concepts. You don’t need the acceptance of others. You express your own divinity by being alive and by loving yourself and others.”

#3

“We have the need to be accepted and to be loved by others, but we cannot accept and love ourselves. The more self-love we have, the less we will experience self-abuse. Self-abuse comes from self-rejection, and self-rejection comes from having an image of what it means to be perfect and never measuring up to that ideal.  Our image of perfection is the reason we reject ourselves; it is why we don’t accept ourselves the way we are, and why we don’t accept others the way they are.”

#2

“The world is very beautiful and very wonderful.  Life can be very easy when love is your way of life.  You can be loving all the time.  This is your choice.  You may not have a reason to love, but you can love because to love makes you so happy. Love in action only produces happiness. Love will give you inner peace. It will change your perception of everything.”

#1

“When you feel good, everything around you is good, when everything around you is great, everything makes you happy. You are loving everything that is around you, because you are loving yourself. Because you like the way you are. Because you are happy with your life. You are happy with the movie that you are producing, happy with your agreements with life. You are at peace, and you are happy. You live in that state of bliss where everything is so wonderful, and everything is so beautiful.  In that state of bliss you are making love all the time with everything that you perceive.”
by kenlej
on Fri Sep 02, 2016 12:06 am
 
Search in: GENERAL DISCUSSION
Topic: How to No Longer Take Things Personally
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Views: 2739

8/23/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

Guru Winalot:  Iraqi has so much money that they could rate for the rate to come up over time.


Guru
BGG:   We're in what may come to be known as the investment of our lifetimes!! Let's all relax and just let it happen. In MHO - it won't be much longer.


Guru Bulldog75:  "THE COUNTDOWN" 95.45% IQD RATE POST PROBABILITY BEFORE/ON AUG. 29, TRENDING UP! 4.55% X FACTOR. IQD could post any hour from NOW to Aug. 29, imo. "The fly in the ointment" was O and the UST. Yes, we uncovered that last Friday. All we had to do was follow the money. O asked repeatedly for 'favors' and he got continuous days of extension by calling in 'his chips' from his 'power of office and the Reserve Currency status'. O simply got extension favors so IRS/UST would collect more taxes in the long haul from Tier 3, you. They: O, UST, IRS will rake in 15-30% extra from you, the taxpaper for the delay "to get the extra sales. Its about the Tax Money folks!!! For some reason ladies and gents it just always seems to be about : 1.$$$ 2.Power 3.Oil. Now ain't that just something new...NO. So #4 here is our TIMING. THE COUNTDOWN is on. We are "inside the 20 yard line in possession" and we're gonna score a RVD. Iraq has NO more timeouts left, the clock is ticking. $$$ estimates: IQD $3.50, Dong .25 USD. There are NO retreating options here. "This is a Perfect Window" for Iraq, Tier 3, USA and the World. You are blessed and highly favored to be here. There is NO mistake that YOU are here, for HIS timing is perfection; for HE has the answers before you have the question, Jeremiah 33:3. Your Gift comes SOON for You have believed and have Faith in Him. Be wise and courteous. Love others as you love yourself. Know you are a Child of God and are protected by HIM. 100% LOVE= no fear! For where there is LIGHT, there can be no darkness. Amen. Your GIFT Comes Now.

OK, I am on the go; blessings and love to everyone. Beginning later this afternoon; this will be an almost hour to hour countdown. I would not venture to far from your phones and comp; have your contacts lined up to notify you. I know all your security means are set up. best wishes.


Guru Gary:    its really imperative that the IQD come to fruition.  we do know that there is another meeting coming up here in Jackson Hole this Friday and Shabibi will be here working with the FED talking about what they will do next... Issues will have to be dealt with.  we WERE TOLD THERE IS A SOLUTION ON THE HORIZON - I believe it’s what we are waiting for it to occur.


Guru FreewayBill:  With the events that are about to happen, I am praying that you recognize the magnitude that your life is going to change! Could be for the better but also could possibly be so not so good if you handle it wrong.

First thing you do is FALL TO YOUR KNEES and THANK GOD for this blessing. Second, go about your first day as you did the day before and RELAX>>>>>

Let us get ready for the blessing that will spread help throughout this world like nothing ever before done by human hands!

LOVE YOU AND MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND THE USA DURING THESE TRYING BUT FRUITFUL TIMES!

FREEWAY BILL


Guru Med:   SHABIBI...HAS ONE WORRY,  BEING PEGGED AGAINST THE USD AND GOLD RISING,  THE DOLLAR DIPS, SO DOES THE DINAR EVEN THOUGH IT IS A CRAWLING PEG [THEY DO NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW THE USD].  HE... IS MEETING DURING THE HOLIDAY FOR PARLIAMENT STILL WITH THE MOF, WHO REALLY HAS MORE CLOUT NOW TO PUSH THIS THROUGH.


Guru OkieOilman: at least three sources saying the 24th as a cash in day, also have sources telling us the 25th, 26th and by 28th.  our opportunity is closer than ever before. (I mean it is thaaaaaaaaaaaaat close!)Evidentially someone has learned how to hack into my personal name and password and is posting under the guise of okie oil man. I received word that a post was on get team stating i said be at the bank in the morning---false----i haven't personally posted in several days


Guru Mailman17:   INFLATION IS WHAT SHABS WORRIES ABOUT THE MOST.  THE RATE HE AGREED UPON WITH THE IMF CANNOT BE THERE...IF INFLATION GOES ANY HIGHER.  HE CANNOT AFFORD TO GET INTO DOUBLE DIGITS AT .86 .  DOUBLE DIGITS NEED A HIGHER RATE.  SHABS IS IN CONTROL...THE END PRODUCT BEING THE RV.  TICK TOCK


Guru Checkmate Dan:   BOTTOM LINE THIS RV WILL TAKE PLACE and has to be done a certain way - WE ARE THERE


Guru Gary:   we are so close - if they forgave the debt they can’t come back and slap it in place and that is a controlling factor.  major banks can't keep losing currency and revenue with the way things are right now, it has to be readjusted.   all currencies are at a point they all have to be readjusted and RV now...The main basket is the one with the IQD and it HAS TO COME FIRST for the other currencies to re-adjust.


Guru Phoenix3333:   The 25th - 27th is the Jackson Hole Meeting, a meeting of Who's Who in the Global financial community.  My speculation based in a matrix of information, news, etc., not rumor, sometime between the 28th - 3rd is a prime window to actually reactivate the economy of Iraq and drop the artificial exchange rate of the Iraqi dinar.


Guru Bear5642:   JUST GOT A TEXT FROM SOMEONE AT BANK AND SAID DON'T GET DISCOURAGED, WILL HAPPEN THIS WEEK.  CANNOT DISCLOSE BANK BUT CAN SAY THIS ONE HAS A HUGE CURRENCY EXCHANGE DEPARTMENT

ok i have another bank story and this is where the banker called her friend who she knew had dinars and told her to not get dicouraged because she had information that it was going to RV no later than the end of the month. ive said from the beginning with my iraq contact that we would see this no later than the end of the month also. please relax this is not a long wait at all and i feel confident with august 28th.  the 28th is right around the corner and im at peace with that good night everyone and GOD BLESS YOU


Guru BGG:  I know there are folks who can't wait to get off this ride - I can't wait to find the next one!! I do think things are pretty close (and have been several times - at least!!)...  By the way - I have heard several people "in the know" purport to "know" my reasoning for my recent posts "outing" sources. Unless you know - EXACTLY - what was up, DO NOT imagine for a split second they have any clue. My reasons are my own.  For the record - typically, I am fanatical about protecting sources and those involved


Guru BWM:  BWM states that all the news I am getting goes right along with that idea and that Wednesday is the greatest date for this to happen – we are there from everything I got…we are there… GB states = that their intel comes from a high level law enforcement agency that this will absolutely be here when we get out of bed in the morning….


Guru GeorgiaBoy:  Wednesday is an opportune day for currency RV because all futures contracts settle on that day at 5:00 pm. Markets reopen at 5:30 pm to start the new trading week.
Nature of holdup: there have been no holdups - the RV has been planned based on the criteria of the powers that be. Timed with financial startegies in America, Europe, and the World. Marshall Plan is being re-enacted. There is no money for QE3... so this has to happen. Conservative gurus are saying "any time now", but everyone is in harmony on "this week".


Guru Patriot:   Shabibi is literally yanking out corrupt people and departments by the root; they caught the Electricity Minister taking bribes; Security officials being bribed to let inmates of the bad gangs out of prison; A minister of the Interior was seen in a photo with 3 guys known to be members of Al Qaeda.  if they RV the currency for you and while these bandits are still in place, then they’re changing the value for them too, and it could get very bad giving them a huge war chest to carry on their nonsense.  This is not just a capricious delay, it is necessary to wait until they’re ready, much is at stake as they try to survive and save lives, now and in the future.


Guru Joey:   articles just kept coming out today about banks...Sounds like Shabibi’s plan for the banks is coming to fruition and maybe a close if banks are now struggling to get licenses, and to stay in business.


Guru Bluwolf:   Imo 2 days before Bush gets interviewed, the 28th, we should see something...friday.  just be advise that you are on high alert 



Guru ScottiG:  Just got through comparing notes with the infamous low flyer, the read deal….the Okie from west of the Mississippi. He asked me to tell you that we both are real hopeful for tomorrow being a solid day for all of us IQD investors. I did say hopeful…..Okie wants everyone to be hopeful but do not count your chickens before their time. I can tell you of at least three sources saying the 24th as a cash in day. We also have sources telling us the 25th, 26th and by 28th. So you can understand our hesitancy to proclaim anything as absolute. Dear hearts if there was any way I or anyone else could give you a 100% absolutely guaranteed bonafied asurrance that we will see it tomorrow then I know we would let the Okster take the lead and proclaim it. Now having said all of that disclaimer stuff, we want to reassure you that we are giving you the best insight that is available to us. There is no certainty of dates until we see the silly rates in the bank locked in (COME ON WEDNESDAY). Okie says he is feeling his age tonight and he is taking something for the pain and is going to retire early. You all be well, be patient for our opportunity is closer than ever before. (I mean it is thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat close!)


Guru Ghost:  THANKS SCOTTI G FOR SUPPORTING OKIE--I KNOW FOR AN ABSOLUTE FACT THAT WHEN OKIE FURNISHED INTEL AT THAT EXACT MOMENT IN TIME IT IS CORRECT INTEL. NOW IF ANYTHING CHANGES IN THE MEAN TIME DOES NOT MEAN OKIE WAS MISLEADING ANYONE AND ONLY HAS EVERYONE'S BEST INTEREST IN MIND. TO SHOW YOU HOW BIG HIS HEART IS--I HEARD HIM SAY TODAY HE WOULD GIVE UP EVERY DINAR HE HAS IF IT WOULD MAKE EVERYONE ELSE'S DINAR TO R/V--THAT IS QUITE A STATEMENT BECAUSE OKIE HAS ENOUGH DINAR TO STUFF TRIGGER WITH--HE WILL NEVER LIE-CHEAT -STEAL OR MISGUIDE ANYONE--I HAVE A 40 YEAR PROVEN RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM--HE DOES HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM THO---HE ALWAYS CONSIDERS OTHERS RATHER THAN HIMSELF---QUITE AN OLE SOLDIER THAT OKIE-
by Ssmith
on Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:56 pm
 
Search in: MANY MANY YEARS AGO in DINAR-LAND
Topic: 8/23/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND
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Is Garry Mcguire Going To Threaten Google With Legal Action Too?

It seems that Garry has an issue with the publicly available Wing-it call and notes being transcribed, but not for other publicly available calls.

How much more two-faced can you get?

Here's the publicly available notes that Google has as of the time of this posting:

WingIT Tuesday CC Notes and Replay 8-16-16 Emailed to Recaps 

8/17/2016  
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Thanks Ssmith for sending these to us today

Wing-It Call Notes 8/16/16

Gerry leads the kids in prayer – asking for protection & guidance, etc., etc.

Disclaimer time. Gerry says we 're not attorneys, financial advisers, or CPAs. This is just our opinion and not to be taken as legal advice.

Gerry now starts the intel portion . OK. Here we go.

Art: Is expecting the temperatures in his area to moderate and says fall is in the air. He didn't say if there is any chance of precipitation in the forecast. Last night one of his sources was 1,000% assured that last night was the night. Now they aren't quite 1,000% assured, but think the numbers will be here today or tomorrow.
....



He suggests reading the new SitRep that just came out at DinarChronicles. (it's also available at Dinar Daily) Yosef had talked about Abbott Downing and this is equally as good. Art says that's all we know and there really isn't any more intel. He says it's all done, it's ready and they are just taking care of some lose ends. He also think that the people have have been delaying this have been taken care of. Go read SitRep.

Gerry: Wingman is under the weather. Gary says there isn't a lot of intel out there, so what we really need to do is prepare ourselves.

Gerry's List:

First concern is the FinCin report. FinCin112. The box on line 31 or 32 that says “exchange”. You want to check that and get a copy of that.

Oh yeah. The first thing is that they want to speak with you and see what type of person you are. What are you going to do? Are you just going to take you money and run? Go be a playboy/girl/or something? If so, they are going to put you in that category.

Or are you going to be in Category #2? You want to fund some projects, but don't want to take part in the day to day operations. That's Great! That means that the rate you get is going to be higher than the people in Category #1. You'll be a partner with the bank and that is what they want because that is how they make money. You want to be a good steward, you want to grow it.

Category #3 is you want to do humanitarian projects and want to be involved. You will get an even better rate for that because now you are a “Really Preferred Customer”.

Next question. If I have to fund all of my projects out of my portion, I'd like a little more percentage. Let's see. Who did I get this from? Part 2 of the form, line 25e was what I was just told. Anyway. Oh look! It's my buddy from Austin. He's going help since Wingman is under the weather.

So when you ask them if you have to fund the projects out of your portion, if they say “yes” you need to ask them for a high percentage. If they say “no”, it's because the banker wants to see what you are doing and be involved in the process. It like a loan to build a house.

Be respectful and ask if this is the best you have to offer for what I'm bringing to the table. Cashier's Checks. Think about what you are going to be asking for. Write them down in advance. Some of the checks I'm going to be asking for are pretty sizable. I have to pay off my trust, my financial adviser. If I want a private jet, I'm going to need a check for the jet company. That way I can travel and just pick up the phone and they'll meet me there.

Gerry's buddy from Austin: Most of this is common sense. Banks are going to be respectful of you because they know what you are bringing to the table. Take your notes with you Even Iko needs notes. Just be respectful. You want to review you previous notes. You want to condense them down and take them with you. Realize what you have is what they want. If you don't ask, you don't get it.

Gerry: That was it? I though you'd go a little longer.

Austin: Exciting times. Best thing I can say is don't get down on yourself. Just be glad you have something others don't. People have ridiculed you for this. I'm excited!

Gerry: Well, I'm.. Well, I think I made a fox pass Be calm, Louisiana people – Please, please find high ground. More water is coming. I'm praying for you.

Question #1. Thank you, etc., etc. Post exchange question.

Gerry: Well, I'm in deep trouble there.  I'm not sure. I'm going to looking to buy property and a house pretty quick. So I can move away from where I'm at to where no one knows me

Austin: Say you move from the suburbs to a higher end neighborhood by the lake, people aren't going to know you out there. Everybody has a Mercedes. Everyone has a big house. You're off the radar. You may want to keep a reasonable car if you go to the same church. I tell people I just got a job with a trust. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. What do you think?

Gerry: Stay below the radar. Zip your lip. .There's a fine art to that. People in the oil business are good at that.

Question #2: I've been thinking about outrageous rates. Maybe outrageous by fiat standards, but not by asset backed standards – wealth of the whole world. Example Zimbabwe.

Gerry: It seems that Zimbabwe and the whole country of Africa is all tied together. But Zimbabwe seems to be sitting on the hefty portion of minerals we need for technology. I'm reading these questions cold. Let's see. We have a guest coming on. Hello wingman!

IKO: Hello. Did I miss anything? Joking about missing RV & 800#'s with Gary.

Gerry: Remember we talked about what to do at the bank & our checklist? You weren't here, so I went without you. Your reply, “is the best you can offer”. I'm getting a check for $400,00. Be prepared to tell them where these are going. I'm going to pay my car off and pay my property taxes. If they offer you a credit card. Take it, but ask the limit be set at $500,000.

IKO: Ask for a Platinum Card and not a Black Card, so you don't advertise your wealth. If the bank gives you a card, have the limit set rather low, in case it's stolen. If you anticipate a big charge, call the bank and tell them raise the limit. I've done this.

Gerry: If you are going to have a relationship with your banker, get a banker you have access to 24/7 so we can communicate.

IKO: When I went in to Wells a few years ago, I had just closed down my business and didn't have a lot of money. But I got his cell # and we've had email exchanges at 11 pm at night. They're here to help us.

Gerry: I'm going to write this down. Ask them what kind of perks can you offer me?

IKO: If I need to fly to Dallas, they need to have their plane ready for me. I want to go to a SuperBowl, even though I don't follow football. I've been to the World Series. It was a trip and I don't even care about the game. Perks. Don't forget!

General things. We got some more info this week from a guy who went through the training at Wells Fargo for the exchange. Don't worry. I'm not going too far with this. One thing they are looking for, is that they want to feel comfortable with you. Especially if they are giving you something over the international rate.

You have the wherewithal to manage this kind of money. It's OK to be a beginner. You don't want to be something you're not. You want to demonstrate you can make decisions, listen, take in information. All those things. It took me years to learn all these things and how to negotiate. But I did learn.

Bankers want to know you can handle your wealth and that influences what they offer. From experience, don't try to be something you aren't. Be honest. Say you need to think about it. If you need a break – take one. You shouldn't have to worry about getting in there the first couple days. You might have to wait a week in a highly populated area. Don't panic. You're in the system when you make the call. They are there to help, etc., etc. Enough said for now. Sounds like you got all the basics.

Question #3. It's not all about Iraq. What are we waiting for?

Gerry: Rumbling that Iran will be floating their currency. That will poop in the punch bowl.

IKO: They won't do that. Iran won't go along. They depend on the region. Mainstay of the GCR is all the Arab states cooperating – not price fixing. So far there's been no evidence. There hasn't even been evidence that the US is holding it up. May just be paranoid thinking. It may just wind down. I heard a rumor this am they are waiting for January because they want the market to crash.

That doesn't make good sense. As soon as it doesn't happen when people says it should, we look for excuses. Maybe it's not quite ready. The thing is full of human mistakes, human error and you have 208 countries all trying to pull together on the biggest agreement in the history of the civilized world. That's probably what's happening. Not all the paranoid stuff.

Gerry: Have you heard about Deutsch bank?

IKO: Perfect example. We knew they were in trouble and any moment they would cry uncle, do back deals. None of that has worked. Now it's public. Slow, slow. Let's not panic Europe because they are having issues.

Gerry: Where are most of the derivatives housed at?

IKO: Yes, Deutsche bank. 160 Trillion that we know about. There are even more hidden. Did you hear anything about used car credit bubble?

Gerry: No, I haven't

IKO: They found another avenue. I just got a great deal on a 2 yr old car. I was talking to guy about credit ratings. If you can fog a mirror, you can get a car loan. Same thing with easy credit for housing, now there are so many cars, they are doing it for them. They form a cooperative and move the vehicles and we'll still make money on the repos. Dirty thing they're doing.

Gerry: Derivatives are housed in one bank. In my opinion. Tied to the top 4 banks. WF has gotten rid of most of theirs. When China goes asset backed on October 1st, with the stroke of a pen, life is good again. The pen is mightier than the sword. It's not about Iraq. We're in the closing act. Waiting for them to raise or drop the curtain.

Question #4: How are you going to diversify your money post RV? You've said using more than one bank and you've mentioned getting it offshore. (let's remember the disclaimer! LOL)

Gerry: When I said that.... That's legally offshore, otherwise you'll incur the wrath

IKO: You're doing that to protect you money, not to avoid taxes. Put some of your money into other foreign currencies that appear to have a lot of growth potential, but make sure they're safe. Seek professional advice.

Surround yourself with good info and apply the filter we've been learning about for the past few years.

There are people out there, but they're not cheap.

Caller from CA: Bank individual training mentioned in chat. Could IKO elaborate? 4th quarter window?

IKO: We'll RV before 4th qtr. We've been coached, Gary & I, we want to focus on parking our money and not making it work for us. See what develops. I'm not going to be doing any kind of investments.

Safe, vanilla – savings, CD's, fixed interest rates. I'm not doing anything in the market for at least a year. I want the economy to give a solid indication of where it's going before I do any trading, purchase foreign bonds, etc. Want to see what the GCR gives.

Don't know what the rules to the game are. Don't worry about the 4th qtr. Let you money sit in the trust, NIB account. Watch & learn.

I'm not going to set myself up for a fall, so I'm going to focus on the 4th qtr. Market crisis will trigger GCR. Hopes Deutsche bank creates a ripple effect that forces their backs up against a wall. We can wait, but the world can't. I think Europe is completely in chaos now. Italian banks two weeks ago. I think that's going to cave in before we got what we got.

Gerry: That was a great politician's answer.

IKO: Seems they really have done a good job setting this up. It is my understanding that Wells has set up an entirely separate corporation to do the exchange. Not a division, an entirely separate corporation.

Gerry: So what's on their call is absolutely right. Wells Fargo will never ever have anything to do with the Dinar and that is totally correct. It's a separate division/corporation. We just didn't think outside the box..

IKO: They are telling the truth, but they're not telling the truth.

Caller WA: I've been reviewing my notes and you said to put my money in a State Bank or a Republic bank.

Gerry: No, a State Bank. The one I'm looking at gave up their Federal charter and went back to a state bank charter. I feel they are in a little bit better shape. All banks are tied into the federal government – they have government regulation. You can also put your money in a credit union, but I've heard the limits are $10,000,000.

Caller: I struggle with the conversation about moving my money off shore legally. Won't WF be extremely unhappy when you move you money offshore? Obviously you don't tell them before the fact. When the money is in your account, you quietly move it off shore.

Gerry: I believe that we've heard rumors that the Chinese own a great portion of WF like HSBC and it's still going to be within their banking system. It's just going to be offshore. It's a legal way to protect it in these economic times that might take a downturn here. How's that for a politician's statement? WF is tied in w/foreign banks and they'll be happy w/that.

Caller: So you can freely talk to them about that?

Gerry: I believe so.

LV Caller: Wants to buy a house, but doesn't have money to get a trust now. Pay cash and then move it into trust?

Gerry: Move it into trust after RV and let the trust pay it off.

IKO: Interest rates on a mortgage are 3% right now. If you can make 9-10%, you don't want to spend that capital. Let your money work for you and make mortgage payments instead. You don't have to be a multi-millionaire to have a trust. You just have to hire the expertise to manage it for you.

Caller MN: Go into all cash for end of world scenario after RV per other gurus. Get other currencies or go offshore to hedge against all this?

IKO: I would say, not quite in that fashion. But you do want to protect against some hyper-inflation and it looks like more than a couple months. Be careful of what you hear in a chat room.

Gerry: Let you financial adviser advise you.

Gerry: Praying the call out.


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by RamblerNash
on Thu Aug 18, 2016 12:06 pm
 
Search in: DINAR/IRAQ QUESTIONS and DISCUSSIONS
Topic: Is Garry Mcguire Going To Threaten Google With Legal Action Too?
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Wing-It Call Notes 8/16/16

Gerry leads the kids in prayer – asking for protection & guidance, etc., etc.

Disclaimer time. Gerry says we 're not attorneys, financial advisers, or CPAs. This is just our opinion and not to be taken as legal advice.

Gerry now starts the intel portion and proceeds to give legal and financial advice – even though he just got done saying it's just an opinion. OK. Here we go.

Art: Is expecting the temperatures in his area to moderate and says fall is in the air. He didn't say if there is any chance of precipitation in the forecast. Last night one of his sources was 1,000% assured that last night was the night. Now they aren't quite 1,000% assured, but think the numbers will be here today or tomorrow. He suggests reading the new SitRep that just came out at DinarChronicles. (it's also available at Dinar Daily) Yosef had talked about Abbott Downing and this is equally as good. Art says that's all we know and there really isn't any more intel. He says it's all done, it's ready and they are just taking care of some lose ends. He also think that the people have have been delaying this have been taken care of. Go read SitRep.

Gary: Wingman is under the weather. (maybe Wingman should contact Jerzy for his health concerns) Gary whines about how the show is all on his shoulders. (like anyone really cares) Gary says there isn't a lot of intel out there, so what we really need to do is prepare ourselves. He proceeds to pump Awake in 3D's call for his explanation of exchange procedures.

Gary's List:

First concern is the FinCin report. FinCin112. The box on line 31 or 32 that says “exchange”. You want to check that and get a copy of that.

Oh yeah. The first thing is that they want to speak with you and see what type of person you are. What are you going to do? Are you just going to take you money and run? Go be a playboy/girl/or something? If so, they are going to put you in that category. Or are you going to be in Category #2? You want to fund some projects, but don't want to take part in the day to day operations. That's Great! That means that the rate you get is going to be higher than the people in Category #1. You'll be a partner with the bank and that is what they want because that is how they make money. You want to be a good steward, you want to grow it. Blah, Blah, Blah. Category #3 is you want to do humanitarian projects and want to be involved. You will get an even better rate for that because now you are a “Really Preferred Customer”. Gary says he's “red necked” the explanation to make it pretty easy. (because he knows that you're really dumb if you are listening to his crap thinking you'll learn something)

Next question. If I have to fund all of my projects out of my portion, I'd like a little more percentage. Let's see. Who did I get this from? Part 2 of the form, line 25e was what I was just told. Anyway. Oh look! It's my buddy from Austin. He's going help since Wingman is under the weather.

So when you ask them if you have to fund the projects out of your portion, if they say “yes” you need to ask them for a high percentage. If they say “no”, it's because the banker wants to see what you are doing and be involved in the process. It like a loan to build a house. (huh? A currency exchange is like a loan?)

Be respectful and ask if this is the best you have to offer for what I'm bringing to the table. Cashier's Checks. Think about what you are going to be asking for. Write them down in advance. Some of the checks I'm going to be asking for are pretty sizable. I have to pay off my trust, my financial adviser. If I want a private jet, I'm going to need a check for the jet company. That way I can travel and just pick up the phone and they'll meet me there.

Gary's buddy from Austin: Most of this is common sense. Banks are going to be respectful of you because they know what you are bringing to the table. Take your notes with you because you are too dumb to remember what you need to say. Even Iko needs notes. Just be respectful. You want to review you previous notes. You want to condense them down and take them with you. Realize what you have is what they want. If you don't ask, you don't get it.

Gary: That was it? I though you'd go a little longer. (I've been busy slamming Ssmith & Kenny and didn't think of very many stories/lies for the call)

Austin: Exciting times. Best thing I can say is don't get down on yourself. Just be glad you have something others don't. People have ridiculed you for this. I'm excited!

Gary: Well, I'm.. Well, I think I made a fox pass (faux pas, dummy) Be calm, have a designated driver for your Blue Moon and a case of depends. Let's go to. Duh. Call notes, I mean notes for the call. Louisiana people – Please, please find high ground. More water is coming. I'm praying for you.

Question #1. Thank you, etc., etc. Post exchange question. How long would you wait to buy a house or vehicle so you don't look like a toothless crackhead? How slow must you be not to tarnish your reputation with the bank? Thank you for your wisdom and knowledge. (LMAO)

Gerry: Well, I'm in deep trouble there. (No Shit!) I'm not sure. I'm going to looking to buy property and a house pretty quick. So I can move away from where I'm at to where no one knows me (running from your past?)

Austin: Say you move from the suburbs to a higher end neighborhood by the lake, people aren't going to know you out there. Everybody has a Mercedes. Everyone has a big house. You're off the radar. You may want to keep a reasonable car if you go to the same church. I tell people I just got a job with a trust. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. What do you think?

Gary: Stay below the radar. Zip your lip. Or learn the art of BS if you are going to speak. Think about that one. There's a fine art to that. People in the oil business are good at that. (Did Gary just slam Okie?)

Question #2: I've been thinking about outrageous rates. Maybe outrageous by fiat standards, but not by asset backed standards – wealth of the whole world. Example Zimbabwe.

Gary: It seems that Zimbabwe and the whole country of Africa is all tied together. But Zimbabwe seems to be sitting on the hefty portion of minerals we need for technology. I'm reading these questions cold. Let's see. We have a guest coming on. Hello wingman!

IKO: Hello. Did I miss anything? Joking about missing RV & 800#'s with Gary. August Fools.

Gary: Remember we talked about what to do at the bank & our checklist? You weren't here, so I went without you. Your reply, “is the best you can offer”. I'm getting a check for $400,00. Be prepared to tell them where these are going. I'm going to pay my car off and pay my property taxes. If they offer you a credit card. Take it, but ask the limit be set at $500,000.

IKO: Ask for a Platinum Card and not a Black Card, so you don't advertise your wealth. If the bank gives you a card, have the limit set rather low, in case it's stolen. If you anticipate a big charge, call the bank and tell them raise the limit. I've done this.

Gary: If you are going to have a relationship with your banker, get a banker you have access to 24/7 so we can communicate. (Poor banker. Getting phone calls at 2 am from a drunk Gary)

IKO: When I went in to Wells a few years ago, I had just closed down my business and didn't have a lot of money. But I got his cell # and we've had email exchanges at 11 pm at night. They're here to help us.

Gary: I'm going to write this down. Ask them what kind of perks can you offer me?


IKO: If I need to fly to Dallas, they need to have their plane ready for me. I want to go to a SuperBowl, even though I don't follow football. I've been to the World Series. It was a trip and I don't even care about the game. Perks. Don't forget!

General things. We got some more info this week from a guy who went through the training at Wells Fargo for the exchange. Don't worry. I'm not going too far with this. One thing they are looking for, is that they want to feel comfortable with you. Especially if they are giving you something over the international rate. You have the wherewithal to manage this kind of money. It's OK to be a beginner. You don't want to be something you're not. You want to demonstrate you can make decisions, listen, take in information. All those things. It took me years to learn all these things and how to negotiate. But I did learn. Bankers want to know you can handle your wealth and that influences what they offer. From experience, don't try to be something you aren't. Be honest. Say you need to think about it. If you need a break – take one. (Blah, Blah, Blah.) You shouldn't have to worry about getting in there the first couple days. You might have to wait a week in a highly populated area. Don't panic. You're in the system when you make the call. They are there to help, etc., etc. Enough said for now. Sounds like you got all the basics.

Question #3. It's not all about Iraq. What are we waiting for?

Gary: Rumbling that Iran will be floating their currency. That will poop in the punch bowl.

IKO: They won't do that. Iran won't go along. They depend on the region. Mainstay of the GCR is all the Arab states cooperating – not price fixing. So far there's been no evidence. There hasn't even been evidence that the US is holding it up. May just be paranoid thinking. It may just wind down. I heard a rumor this am they are waiting for January because they want the market to crash. That doesn't make good sense. As soon as it doesn't happen when people says it should, we look for excuses. Maybe it's not quite ready. The thing is full of human mistakes, human error and you have 208 countries all trying to pull together on the biggest agreement in the history of the civilized world. That's probably what's happening. Not all the paranoid stuff.

Gary: Have you heard about Deutsch bank?

IKO: Perfect example. We knew they were in trouble and any moment they would cry uncle, do back deals. None of that has worked. Now it's public. Slow, slow. Let's not panic Europe because they are having issues.

Gary: Where are most of the derivatives housed at?

IKO: Yes, Deutsche bank. 160 Trillion that we know about. There are even more hidden. Did you hear anything about used car credit bubble?

Gary: No, I haven't

IKO: They found another avenue. I just got a great deal on a 2 yr old car. I was talking to guy about credit ratings. If you can fog a mirror, you can get a car loan. Same thing with easy credit for housing, now there are so many cars, they are doing it for them. They form a cooperative and move the vehicles and we'll still make money on the repos. Dirty thing they're doing.

Gary: Derivatives are housed in one bank. In my opinion. Tied to the top 4 banks. WF has gotten rid of most of theirs. When China goes asset backed on October 1st, with the stroke of a pen, life is good again. The pen is mightier than the sword. It's not about Iraq. We're in the closing act. Waiting for them to raise or drop the curtain.

Question #4: How are you going to diversify your money post RV? You've said using more than one bank and you've mentioned getting it offshore. (let's remember the disclaimer! LOL)

Gary: When I said that.... That's legally offshore, otherwise you'll incur the wrath

IKO: You're doing that to protect you money, not to avoid taxes. Put some of your money into other foreign currencies that appear to have a lot of growth potential, but make sure they're safe. Seek professional advice. (professional advice says Dinar, Dong & Zim are a scam) Surround yourself with good info and apply the filter we've been learning about for the past few years. (filter? Tuning out good advice?) There are people out there, but they're not cheap. (If they're so damn smart, why didn't they know about the RV/GCR?) IKO admits he's a horrible golfer.

Caller from CA: Bank individual training mentioned in chat. Could IKO elaborate? 4th quarter window?

IKO: We'll RV before 4th qtr. We've been coached, Gary & I, we want to focus on parking our money and not making it work for us. See what develops. I'm not going to be doing any kind of investments. (Whoa! You just said to get into foreign currencies a minute ago) Safe, vanilla – savings, CD's, fixed interest rates. I'm not doing anything in the market for at least a year. I want the economy to give a solid indication of where it's going before I do any trading, purchase foreign bonds, etc. Want to see what the GCR gives. Don't know what the rules to the game are. Don't worry about the 4th qtr. Let you money sit in the trust, NIB account. Watch & learn.

I'm not going to set myself up for a fall, so I'm going to focus on the 4th qtr. Market crisis will trigger GCR. Hopes Deutsche bank creates a ripple effect that forces their backs up against a wall. We can wait, but the world can't. I think Europe is completely in chaos now. Italian banks two weeks ago. I think that's going to cave in before we got what we got.

Gary: That was a great politician's answer.

IKO: Seems they really have done a good job setting this up. It is my understanding that Wells has set up an entirely separate corporation to do the exchange. Not a division, an entirely separate corporation.

Gary: So what's on their call is absolutely right. Wells Fargo will never ever have anything to do with the Dinar and that is totally correct. It's a separate division/corporation. We just didn't think outside the box.. (how much beer did it take to come up with that? LOL)

IKO: They are telling the truth, but they're not telling the truth.

Caller WA: I've been reviewing my notes and you said to put my money in a State Bank or a Republic bank.

Gary: No, a State Bank. The one I'm looking at gave up their Federal charter and went back to a state bank charter. I feel they are in a little bit better shape. All banks are tied into the federal government – they have government regulation. You can also put your money in a credit union, but I've heard the limits are $10,000,000.

Caller: I struggle with the conversation about moving my money off shore legally. Won't WF be extremely unhappy when you move you money offshore? Obviously you don't tell them before the fact. When the money is in your account, you quietly move it off shore.

Gary: I believe that we've heard rumors that the Chinese own a great portion of WF like HSBC and it's still going to be within their banking system. It's just going to be offshore. It's a legal way to protect it in these economic times that might take a downturn here. How's that for a politician's statement? WF is tied in w/foreign banks and they'll be happy w/that.

Caller: So you can freely talk to them about that?

Gary: I believe so.

LV Caller: Wants to buy a house, but doesn't have money to get a trust now. Pay cash and then move it into trust?

Gary: Move it into trust after RV and let the trust pay it off.

IKO: Interest rates on a mortgage are 3% right now. If you can make 9-10%, you don't want to spend that capital. Let your money work for you and make mortgage payments instead. You don't have to be a multi-millionaire to have a trust. You just have to hire the expertise to manage it for you.

Caller MN: Go into all cash for end of world scenario after RV per other gurus. Get other currencies or go offshore to hedge against all this?

IKO: I would say, not quite in that fashion. But you do want to protect against some hyper-inflation and it looks like more than a couple months. Be careful of what you hear in a chat room.


Gary: Let you financial adviser advise you. (why not listen to them right now when they are telling you have invested in a scam?)

Gary: Praying the call out.



[size=13]Call notes courtesy of Ssmith, Guru Hunter.
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by Ssmith
on Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:03 pm
 
Search in: GURU FICTION & PREDICTION DAILY
Topic: Wing-It Call Notes 8/16/16
Replies: 2
Views: 1984

7/22/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

Guru Okie Oilman:  THE DROP DEAD DATE ON THE DEBT CEILING INCREASE IS SUNDAY NOT TODAY LIKE YOU HEARD AND THERE ARE A PREPARED AGREEMENT ALREADY ACCEPTABLE BY BOTH PARTIES–WHAT YOUR SEEING NOW IS POLITICAL POSTURING FOR APPEARANCE SAKES—

OH YES——————————AND DID I MENTION————THE R/V IS SCHEDULED FOR SUNDAY?????——gotcha—-NOW IF THAT DON’T LIGHT YOUR FIRE—YOUR WOODS GREEN—-JUST GOT THE INTEL/INFO IN A FEW MINUTES AGO–THE WORLD COURT GAVE THE USA 48 HOURS

THERE ARE REPORTS OF INTERNATIONAL COURTS SUPERCEDING USGOV WISHES FOR A DELAY. I AM STILL GETTING REPORTS... OF THE IMMENENCE OF THE R/V AND...REPORTS RELATING TO THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE DEBT CEILING SETTLEMENT AND THE R/V.  WE ARE AT A TIME WHERE WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER EVENTS PLAYING OUT IN WASHINGTONAND ON THE WORLD STAGE.




HERE IS THE EXACT LEGAL TERMINOLOGY FROM WORLD COURT--48 HOUR DEADLINE TO REDENOMINATE THE IRAQ DINAR IS SCHEDULED FOR SUNDAY THE 24TH OF JULY---------NOW IS THAT PLAIN ENOUGH FOR THE THOUSANDTH TIME???








Guru Med:  AFTER SO MANY YEARS OF READING SO MANY THOUSANDS OF ARTICLES ADDING AN EXTRA TO OR AND CAN CHANGE THE ENTIRE COMPLEXION OF AN ARTICLE IT IMPLIES THAT THEY HAVE UNTIL JULY 31ST 2011 TO DO THIS IMPLEMENTATION.  WHEN I READ AN ARTICLE I THINK A COUPLE THINGS.  FIRST A HANDSHAKE OR WORD MEANS NOTHING IN A DEAL IN THE MIDDLE EAST.  NEXT IS SCREW ME OVER.  THOSE ARE THE FIRST TWO POINTS I LOOK AT AND THAT THEIR WAY OF STABILIZATION IS FAR FROM WHAT OURS IS WE LOOK AT HOME INVASIONS

AND DRUG KILLINGS GOING DOWN.  THEY LOOK AT HOW MANY MASS SUICIDE BOMBINGS HAVE GONE DOWN.

THEY COULD NOT POSSIBLY  COME OUT AT A 3 PLUSRATE.  HERE IS MY SIMPLE JUSTIFICATION:   30 MILLION PEOPLE, UNEMPLOYMENT AND IMPOVERISHED IS ABOUT 48.5% OF THE COUNTRY, WITH 7 MILLION UNEMPLOYED, THE AVG INCOME IS $450 TO $600 PER MONTH, THEY PRODUCE 2.2 MBPD, THEY HAVE NO RECOGNIZED GDP BY THE U.N., THEY HAVE NO CREDIT RATING INTERNATIONALLY, THEY ARE THE #4 MOST CORRUPT COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, THEY CANNOT JOIN THE WTO BECAUSE THEY WERE DETERMINED TO NOT HAVE ONE TRADEABLE PRODUCT THAT WOULD BE WANTED INTERNATIONALLY.   CAN ANYONE SEE HOW THEY COULD - HELL NO,  IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN HINTED AS CLOSE TO THE USD IN VALUE








Guru Dusty:  Dusty has direct contact (not 3rd party) with Congressmen in Wash. There was a $5 donation fee to youth baseball and softball to have your ticket to listen and ask questions. Great call! Dusty confirmed Tony's Intel as being correct with one minor change

.....the RV will follow but not immediately. Dusty believes there will be a lag time before they will have the RV after US debt agreement. Maybe a few days or a bit longer. He also said there will be Treasury locations for cashin that will probably offer a better rate. Many reasons why UST wants to physically hold our dinar other than just tax reasons. He also knows a Congressman personally that has cashed in and Dusty has personally seen the receipt.  That is from someone who worked with Greenspan on the creation of the RV.








Guru Mailman:   EXPECT THIS... RV...ANYTIME...THIS IS BIGGER AND EFFECTS MORE THAN US LITTLE PEOPLE.  BATTLE LINES ARE BEING DRAWN WITH THE U.S. BEING ON ONE SIDE AND EVERYONE ELSE ON THE OTHER.  THE GOVT IS RUNNING OUT OF TIME...IMOAND THEY HAVE BEEN GIVING A ULTIMATUM BUT THAT IS IN OUR FAVOR





Guru Nighthk11:   we will see the dinar hit world stage within hours - Ramadan has nothing to do with the release as far as a hold-up - it is going to go.   there may have already been some fluctuation on some of the forex sites.  O is reported to have asked for a "Little more time"- he was given 24-48 hours, we are at the end of that now







Guru Bulldog75:  I find it really hard to believe that O is holding this up … lets not blame him. I believe him to be a good and honourable person … was Bush any better or worse??? Please … lets not get into a comparison …




I have a question : There has been MANY first hand accounts from US serviceman stationed in IRAQ … they have CLEARLY stated that there is no RV outside the GREEN jone … the rates are just as low as they were a week ago. In fact, I can get my hands on as many DINARS as I wish for $100 per 100,000 dinars (up here in Canada) .. the dinars are easy to get and they are still very cheap … this tells me that there is no RV in near sight … at least not in the near future … so I would like to get a REAL answer to why “the intel” has made us to believe that the RV has occurred outside the greenzone and if there was a RV in sight (soon), why is it so easy for Canadians to get dinars so cheap up here?




Honestly, I hope it RVs soon BUT I feel its going to be a long time before we see any real change in the Dinar rates … forex is still clearly showing a low rate … there has been no changes in the rates over the last few months … I got NO “intel” — other than the “intel” from these sites … If the RV was coming soon, it would be very difficult for me to get Dinars but it isn’t … I can get as many Dinars as I want up here with no difficulty at very low rates.  CBC.




Flash: O upset. He/USA is being bypassed possibly thru World court, IMF and WTO as we predicted. O wants to hold RATES for obvious reasons previously posted all during this week. IMO, you may see a rate post within the next 12-48 hours. Same Rates still apply as noted yesterday. Must go. Guard your families and identity well. You are blessed. I must go now. Amen. well. Must go.




THE GAME HAS CHANGED. RVD RATE POSTING $ DAY DELAYED til AUGUST 1. What you have just witnessed, the press conferences, on most major networks today between 5-6:30pm CST, is a Show & Tell of drama holding citizens, world countries & financial markets hostage. Your GIFT is still coming IMO, but it will be around August 1, before it arrives. What has happened? See the Forum posts from all week and read the same 43 reasons/pressure cooker situations of continued delays, affecting this First Basket #1 RV Post Rate. The reasons have not changed. O wants 1.2 trillion in extra revenue. Anyone want to guess where thats coming from??? Ummm... taxes on something maybe related to currencies and the rich; with a debt ceiling increase??? It has just gotten more complicated by the hour and its a stand off between: Dems, Pubs, O, and Letter Organizations. The reason is they all want just a little something different. Please see the Forums posting from all week, especially the last 3 days.



Guru EagleHasLanded: 
Regarding President Obama's just-concluded speech on the debt, it is very evident to me that Obama is talking about hidden monies. The government is going to strike a deal at the eleventh hour and then when it comes time to say where the money came from they will just say Iraq owed money to us for war reparations and NEVER mention the phrase revaluation. This is all smoke. They have a already reached a deal in the back room but will first scare everyone to the point that they miss where the money came from. The classic Houdini misdirect






Guru Bluwolf:   I will not repeat this anymore but please read my lips for the last time on this subject,,,,it is done all banks are ready to cash you in,and yes it is very near,,if you are willing to hear me and believe good,,if you wish to not believe then you will stay in this horrible manner until it does,,,such is life,,the truth is that it will pop up any minute now..the wording means soon, very nere,it could be hours it could be days,,but all banks are ready and waiting for there notice




I am confident on my intel,,I am relaxing and in peace within myself,and I sure wish that you will take my way of seeing things,,the truth will set you free,do your research on your own and then you shall see where you are at.. I do do my research with my people and all looks good at this point,,good morning Meisme bendecido




 

Guru Phoenix:  I would like to pass along a goodbye from Lakehouse.

 

She would like to thank everyone for their readership of her blog over these past few years.

 

She has now closed down her blog "Going Global - East Meets West" to allow herself time to finish  her book that she has been working on.

 

So with that I would like to say goodbye, good luck and thank you from Lakehouse.

 

Phoenix




(and her response)




Thanks guys. It was fun but it's time to focus on other things. My book is a work in progress and it should be a good read (at least to all those who have followed this investment). The book is a mix of history and personal stories that are funny, shocking, unbelievable, and enlightening. It will focus on the characters who have made this investment fun and those who have made it a living hell (to be blunt:).  The hard part about putting this book together is that there are so many different subjects to touch upon.

 

The name of the book ... tentatively ..  'From the Beginning' ...

 

Thank you for following and reading Going Global and I hope that it kept you positive and confident.  Remember ... All Good Things Come to Those who Wait (and do the right thing)

 

May your blessings be many!

 

will continue to  update ... Lakehouse





Guru Steve1:   the dinar value within Iraq, yes our local contact...verified {it was raised.}  I do not know the date, but I am sure of the rate. No it is not .86. There is no holdup.  It will be announced in due time.



Gurus Tony & Dan: 
Dan: different style call today





Good morning everyone...July 22




Dan: keep this light hearted...no more commercials...laughing. no commercials and a little more serious today going over what is happenig to site and intel



tony...threw me off there because all we got this morning we are to hold to our vest still within the time frame based on the debt ceiling negotions word is we will see some results debt ceiling trying to accomplish...the word is that we are going to see some results...over the weekend we will see some results. all intel says one thing one place right here with us. watching for a deal on the debt ceiling released --this deal should be reached by Monday morning at least. thats the window we're looking for



watch tv and see if there is a deal reached then look for something to happen...should be reached by monday morning one way or the other...lets look for that




Dan: there's no way that one individual is stopping this. one source last night ...guy on call with real intel...shocked that someone would say after call where is the intel.



Pete from last night was an excelent source...can't get much better than that.  guy last night saying who is holding this up? the USA. no one person can stop this



Pete from last night says our gov as a whole is the holdup




dan..talking now.  need the big picture. we need to realize the big picture



Tony: I want you to understand the level that thing is on. we have been trying to stress that...will apologize that not always stressing in the best way...calling peeps ignorant need to aplogize for that



Dr Pete on our call, you have no idea who that was...can't believe that he even came on the call




thanking the DR who came on last night...you don't know how privelaged we are to have him on last night. trying educate peeps on what is really going on...
tremendous call...you got a world of knowledge in 30 minutes was significant. go back and listen again...there was a world of knowledge on it



dan...it really was a great educational.call.  confirmations we are receiving we already knew. impressed yesterday after talking with dr. pete that things are going just as we thought. things are going the way we thought...still frustrated though. thins are very complex right now... things we aer looking for...stuff unfolding and what is in the way...we don't understand how big this really is



we don't understand how big this really is...billions and trillions of dollars. above pay grade at many levels. above the 3 letter agencies



kings princes illuminati etc trying to manage the world banking system that they havve fractured and now trying to fix fracture with the rv




this will be a fix that helps the fracture that the world is experiencing.  none of us are really prepared. i know i'm not prepared and you guys are not prepared i know because we ve never been multi millionaries before. it make me nervous for my family



T: you are absolutely right. family involved and want everyone be helped...can't infuse htat kind of money and everyone be helped...its impossibe. raise value up and time frame.  asked very critical questions...he helped put the plan together...dr. pete



now to the intel.  Senator...as soon as you see the deal done it will be done.  at end of call did get 3 abc guy comes from a senator...kind of surprise...that he said that...as soon as that deal (budget) is done then this rv is done...but they ARE on a time frame



48 hours then something will happen




deal or no deal in 48 hours something will happen. deal or no deal..now you have what you have been waiting for a time frame.  they are all saying that this IS what is stopping it from happening.  listening to the senator and all other sources all are saying this is the only thing that is stopping that rv from happening



Senator...big name Senator(he is all over the TV) called Tony - PTR and told him that the only thing stopping this is the debt ceiling and soon as an agreement is reached you will see the RV...deal or no deal...in 48 hours something will happen! Deal or no deal...now you have what you have been waiting for...a time frame....they are all saying that this is what is stopping it from happening...listening to the senator and all other sources saying this is the only thing we are waiting on




dan..mods on the board now...do you want to add anything here.  one of the last calls from an open platform.  this is one of the last calls we are going to do from an open platform. lets bring this to light to keeps peeps in this and do it for free.did to help people out and help people understand this investment



a lot of you now a year later are reminding us that we have done this for free for a year....we thought it was over last august.  we thought this would be over long ago






TONY--COME MONDAY WHO IS GOING TO CARE ABOUT 15$!


everyone who paid for san fransc...you are still on unless you asked for your money back and got it back...you cannot come



D: we know who are the people that paid for SF...don't work regarding lack of communication.  if you got charged you are in. don't worry about if you are in...if you paid $25 you are in
 

TONY--WE ARE THAT CLOSE GUYS WITH EVERY INDICATION. WE ARE DOWN TO THE LAST THING WE ARE BEING TOLD THAT IS HOLDING US UP AND WHEN IT DOES THE WORLD CHANGES! THERE IS NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT SO WHY WORRY?





GET Team: Sample Letter to your Legislators




Tom XXXXXXX

XXXX XXXXXXX Dr,

XXXXXXXXXXXXXX, TN XXXXX

xxx-xxx-xxxx




Dear Senator ,




My name is Tom XXXXX and I am one of your constituents.




I appreciate all the efforts put forth by our lawmakers recently regarding the economic condition of our country. I understand it is quite busy on Capitol Hill right now. However, I have a simple question…




Would not the trillions of Iraqi Dinars currently held in our reserves, which is poised to revalue shortly – not help the current economic situation our country greatly??




This event will have an extraordinary impact on our economy – almost overnite. If this event is being held up for political gain or favor in any way would you be so kind as to look into this and address it immediately? We are all counting on you to take action on this request.




Should you require any additional information you may contact me.




Respectfully,




Tom XXXXX




***********************

 

Another point of view about contacting your Legislators

Fellow-Dinar Investors,

I am concerned that the proposed letter will have an unintended and unforeseen consequence that the originator has not considered.

I am a retired trial attorney whose whole career has been to help the 'little man,' etc. for over 44 years.  I am also an ordained minister of the Gospel and a former Pastor.  I continue to work with churches, incorporated churches and ministries and serves as Chairman of our 5 county Food Bank, as part of the nationwide Feeding America Food Banks for the past 13 years, or so. I have also been instrumental in sharing the wonderful investment opportunity of obtaining Dinars for the Kingdom use.

The urging of all of your readers instantly gives Congress, the President (AND ALL OF THE CORRUPT AGENCIES, IRS, DIRECTORS, UNION LEADERS, THUGS, ETC. WHO WILL HAVE A GREAT LIST OF TARGETS!!!  Don't you think that these corrupt individuals are so stupid that they cannot put 2+2 together and realize that if these people know about this great wealth, that they are participating in the investment??????

Many of your articles have stressed SECURITY, SECRECY, ETC.  to guard the fact that the individual has Dinars, how does this fit in with keeping a low profile and to tell nobody of our possession of Dinars. 


I hope you immediately send out a CAUTION related to this proposal!!

Most sincerely,

Dr. xxxxxxx, Esquire
Juris Doctor, Doctor of Divinity






Bank Story:  a friend of mine called me yesterday about a gm we both know at a certain bank and he told us about a memo he received concerning the iqd revaluing and they had received a software upgrade and had to be completed in all us banks before august 1st any takes on this




I do he is the one I got invested in the iqd and ask us to not give our name of him or bank would cost him his job. well that's all he to me and my friend and made a point to call us said we should be ready




this person is very professional and not a churchie person if you know what i mean and he said he wanted to give us a heads up because some people were wanting to cash in because they felt they had bought into a scam and he is not allowed to tell them any different but he considered us to be his friends and was grateful we told him about it.  he called us to tell us not to bail out basically




Guru Bear5642's Response: I THOUGH IT WAS BECAUSE MY OTHER FRIEND WAS THINKING ABOUT SELLING HERS AND SHE GOT THAT CALL GO FIGURE




I MA A LITTLE CAUTIOUS ABOUT SHARING SIBCE YESTERDAY AND LETS NOT GO THAT WAY BUT I REFUSE TO ALLOW A FEW PEOPLE TO STOP ME FROM BEING AN EDIFYING ENCOURAGING PERSON THAT I AM.  CAME CLOSE TO LEAVING PERMANENTLY.  

I ABSOLUTELY BELIEVE THIS WILL BE OVER BEFORE AUGUST 1ST





Bank Story:  Evening Folks, I have an interesting bank story for you. THIS HAPPENED TO ME!!! I have been invested with and followed this investment for about two years. This past couple of weeks have really peaked my interest and with prudence in mind, I went to my local bank (a CHASE branch inside of a Fred Meyer shopping center here in Oregon). All that I wanted to do was get an electronic routing number so that when the day finally arrived, I would be able to cash in and have funds transferred into my account. I was helped by one of the loan officers at the branch. When I gave him my account information, he informed me that my account had been closed for inactivity over the past sixty days. I explained that I am a full time student and that if I don’t have any money, I don’t use the account. I asked him if he was informed about the Dinar and the upcoming revalue. He said that he had heard some rumors. He then said that he thought that I should set up a “Platinum Account”. I was looking at his presentation folder for the various accounts and saw that the account required a $75k deposit to open and I told him that I did’nt even have 75 cents to open the account. He asked me what amount of Dinar I held and I told him an approximate number and that the time was fast approaching for the revalue. He said that he did’nt think that he would be able to help me and that he needed to go to the back-end of the bank and check with his manager and excused himself. When he returned, he said that it would be No Problem to set up the account for me at this time and that I would have sixty days to make a transfer into the account and that they would have an investment adviser in that branch on the following Monday and every Monday thereafter to offer investment strategies if I were to be interested. When we were done setting up the account, he told me that I would receive my account card and checks in about ton working days. This was on a Friday. I received the Platinum Card on Monday of the next week. The checks arrived on Tuesday, and I received a call from this loan manager later in the afternoon that day. He said that he had not seen me come in on Monday and asked if I could perhaps come in on the following Monday. He, at this time asked me if I would perhaps be interested in setting up a personal line of credit until the Dinar revalued. I have found all of this to be very interesting considering the fact that just three months ago I went to into the main branch of Chase Bank in downtown Portland and was told that they were not going to handle any of the Dinar cash ins, and I was shown an email verifying that fact at that time. THIS IS NOT THE STORY OF A FRIEND OF A FRIEND OR MY AUNTS COUSIN’S BROTHER… THIS HAPPENED TO ME LAST WEEK!!!
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Iraqi Dinar Scam

Iraqi Dinar Scam

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Squirrel Pot Pie
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undisclosed USA
#1 Jun 13, 2013
It has just come to my attention that the "Iraqi Dinar Scam" is now alive and well in Carlsbad. All of my direct family lives there, and my very elderly (but fortunately, very well physically and mentally) mother may be a prime target for this scam, even if by otherwise well-meaning people who have been suckered themselves.

I believe this is simply another Ponzi scheme, a pyramid, where (maybe, but not guarantees) a very few "may" see a little of their money returned in the beginning, but virtually all will be dealt a sleight of hand that may very well ruin many of them for the rest of their lives.

This kind of fraud abounds everywhere, at all times and in many different disguises, but they're always the same. But what really gets me this time around is that (even if conducted by one of those well-intentioned suckers I mentioned above) is that it is involving people who are attending church and marketing this bogus BS to vulnerable people to people from THEIR VERY OWN CHURCH. I don't care if they are assuring people that their money is 100% refundable (which would be a surprise of the greatest magnitude even if THAT was true). I care about the fact that whether a scam artist is knowingly bilking the vulnerable or it's just a case of the person marketing the scam being one of those well-intentioned suckers who has himself or herself acting for the betterment of those who might just be as (I hate to say this) stupid as themself.

Have any of you heard of this (it's apparently been around a long, long time), or otherwise been solicited to participate in this charade?

I would like to know, and mainly want to alert ALL of you to the probability you're looking to get bilked. There is a lot of truth to that old adage "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is".
I've attached only one link of many that tells you more about this.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jayadkisson/2012/...

Meanwhile for those of you who are interested, I am selling shares in a grasshopper ranch that, for a mere $100.00 per share, is guaranteed to bring you a return of 1200% in just the first three months, with even greater returns assured afterward (and my guarantee to you is that your investment is 110% refundable if not satisfied). For those of you interested, kindly PM me so we can discuss this in a private, confidential environment. There is a per person limit of 1000 shares.





Really
Carlsbad, NM
#2 Jun 24, 2013
It is not a scam or Ponzi scheme to invest in another country's money, as long as you understand that the returns vary & may not be as big as one would like, as well as the risks of loosing all together. That one is taking the same chances as one would on Wall Street. Any investment is never, I repeat NEVER, a sure thing, it really is the same as gambling. The scam however comes in when the investors are promised a sure fire large return within x amount of time, guaranteeing they will become over night millionaires! If at anytime someone tries to get you to invest without thoroughly explaining the risks, & only promising return, STAY AWAY FROM IT! In short is getting folks to invest in Iraqi Dinar illegal? NO! Is it being done in an ethical & legal manor? If done as u are describing NO! If you are misunderstanding how its being done then you will feel guilty for slandering the one doing the selling, if you are right then thanks for the warning! And lastly befor doing any investing check with a qualified investment expert, NEVER take friends,family,(remember they are the worst as you never see it coming from them or want to believe they would do you wrong) or do gooders word for it if you do your only begging to be robbed!






Squirrel Pot Pie
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#3 Jul 1, 2013
Really wrote:
It is not a scam or Ponzi scheme to invest in another country's money, as long as you understand that the returns vary & may not be as big as one would like, as well as the risks of loosing all together. That one is taking the same chances as one would on Wall Street. Any investment is never, I repeat NEVER, a sure thing, it really is the same as gambling. The scam however comes in when the investors are promised a sure fire large return within x amount of time, guaranteeing they will become over night millionaires! If at anytime someone tries to get you to invest without thoroughly explaining the risks, & only promising return, STAY AWAY FROM IT! In short is getting folks to invest in Iraqi Dinar illegal? NO! Is it being done in an ethical & legal manor? If done as u are describing NO! If you are misunderstanding how its being done then you will feel guilty for slandering the one doing the selling, if you are right then thanks for the warning! And lastly befor doing any investing check with a qualified investment expert, NEVER take friends,family,(remember they are the worst as you never see it coming from them or want to believe they would do you wrong) or do gooders word for it if you do your only begging to be robbed!

I was very polite in suggesting that the person in question may very well have been duped into believing so completely in what he was selling (although I didn't say I doubt it is true, which I do).
No slander at all.

This week is when the "payoff" is due. Let's sit back and watch the money flow back into the hands of the "investors" at the sums reputed to be.

I do agree with this from your post above:

NEVER take friends,family,(remember they are the worst as you never see it coming from them or want to believe they would do you wrong) or do gooders word for it if you do your only begging to be robbed!
Read more at http://www.topix.com/forum/city/carlsbad-nm/T...

Somebody is about to be fleeced.





Question
Casa Grande, AZ
#4 Jul 1, 2013
Can you name the church please? CCF? maybe?
Judged:
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Really
Carlsbad, NM
#5 Jul 2, 2013
You mean rv? There can be no promise of any certainty of when a country's monetary system will rv. The advisors can look at what is going on and predict a possible date, but to make a promise of certainty, not possible. Especially with a country that is still in internal turmoil . I read the article you linked to. & it mentioned the investors relating the Iraqi dinar to Kuwaits dinar. The difference between the 2 was Kuwait was an invaded country that was more than willing to get back to peaceful times and rebuild its stability, so far Iragi shows no signs of even being willing to do so. This comparison is like milk & water. Milk has vitamins & calcium, water not so much. Ie if one is using this as a reason to believe in a substantial return, they may have to be prepared to wait a while.as with all investing patience is the key, you never sell of your shares while low you wait until they rebound! Common law of investing. Of course being wise enough to study your options and not jump at just anything is the main key. Never leap before looking you' ll end up regretting the out cone! Ie when investing use common sense not someone's word or that so called all knowing gut feeling!





bet my life
Tucumcari, NM
#6 Jul 2, 2013
My edlery parents are saying they bet there life that they are going to be millionairs..two weeks ago..they dont have alot of money but are waiting on pins and needles to cash in on their dinars!!They invested two years ago and still believe in it..They are sitting by there computer daily to watch for when they need to go cash in...they have their clothes packed and in the car and stopped doing much at all because they are waiting..anyday to be Rich!Now if they arent being scammed they sure are investing alot of their precious last years of their life waiting on this..It makes me angry that people pray on the elderly like this..yes im sure currency trading is legit..but these gurus are making them promises that has litterly put there lives on hold..It is sad and I cant seem to change there mind no matter what I tell them or show them warnings about this SCAM!!





NicolasKL
Lovelock, NV
#7 Jul 2, 2013
It's not a pyramid or ponzi scheme, but it's definitely a scam.

Buying the currency of a foreign country isn't a scam, but paying 20-50% plus premiums for it because someone (either a well meaning ignoramous, or an unscrupulous con man) told you a bunch of nonsense about it increasing in value by tens of thousands of percent most definitely IS a scam.

There's absolutely zero legitimate reasons the Iraqi currency would undergo a large increase in value. It's incredibly unlikely it'll even go up 50% over the next decade, let alone the 100,000% in the next week that most of these fools believe.

Iraq's currency is worth right about what it should be. There are two VERY simple ways to prove this:

1. Divide their foreign reserves (80 billion USD in value at most) by their money supply (M2, around 75 trillion dinar) and you get about 0.001. Right around what their currency is worth. That isn't a coincidence.

2. Take the TOTAL value of Iraqs currency (their 75 trillion M2 multiplied by the value of each dinar, 0.0086) and you come up with about 65 billion dollars. Now look at their GDP. It's around 120 billion dollars. That's about a .5 ratio of M2 to GDP. Now look at that same ratio for neighboring countries. They'll all be about the same, somewhere between .4 and .7 or so.

Iraqs country is worth right about what it should be. Sure, it could go up 10 or 15 or 20%. That will leave most people, that paid spreads of 20 or 30 or 50%+, high and dry. The chance of the dinar increasing in real value by even 100% in the short term is zero.





Money Maker
Carlsbad, NM
#8 Jul 3, 2013
I would give a week's pay to a hottie who tried to scam me.....in the nude!!!! Money well spent!






Squirrel Pot Pie
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#9 Jul 4, 2013
Question wrote:
Can you name the church please? CCF? maybe?

Out of respect for my family members and their opinions of the individual with whom they dealt, I am not at liberty to disclose the names of any parties.

I honestly don't know if this "investment opportunity" goes all the way to the top of the church in question, or how many church members have been approached or have "closed on a transaction". My family seems to have very long term ties to a particular party who has been transacting these exchanges, and appear to have an unshakable faith in him.

But I'm happy that, although slow, this thread has resulted in a few well-reasoned views - and helped expose something that everyone should think long and hard about before committing themselves should they find themselves approached with this "overnight millionaire" hustle.

It may prove very helpful to google "iraqi dinar guru" and such who are at least in part behind this/these scheme/s, and to google "iraqi dinar scams" and "Vietnamese dong scams".

There's some heartless people out there, folks!





curious
Fuquay Varina, NC
#10 Aug 21, 2013
a lot of people are going to be crushed by the hammer of liars and scammers...Don't invest more than you can afford to loose..I myself bought a few hundred dollars worth but everyday I wonder was I scammed by the dinargurus..If it happens all well and good if not so what I didn't rob the bank to get the money..lol





Youu
Lovington, NM
#11 Aug 22, 2013
curious wrote:
a lot of people are going to be crushed by the hammer of liars and scammers...Don't invest more than you can afford to loose..I myself bought a few hundred dollars worth but everyday I wonder was I scammed by the dinargurus..If it happens all well and good if not so what I didn't rob the bank to get the money..lol

Screw the dinar you need to invest in the Yuan.





Hussein Ali
Burton, TX
#13 Sep 4, 2013
I will not say it is or it is not, In 2008 was 1 USD exchange for 1260 ID / 2012 1 USD exchange for 116 ID in just four years,so it is not scame, and when they revaluate the ID they will not give just one month and any one can just take his IDs and go to the north of Iraq and exchange them ,The gold companies for sure they will not like invest in Iraqi dinar, no one gave good reason to not invest in Iraqi dinar, Iraq has the second oil reserve in the world sooner or later the Iraqi dinar gose back to 1ID exchange for 3.25 USD and don't tell me that it was because Saddam wanted that, because he was buying things like weapon for this exchange from the big economy contries like Russa and USA, it is slow but it gonna happen, ther is a lote reason they dont wanna people know about that like the gold people, rich people stay rich and other stay just money machine makers, if we compare why and why not we found the reasons for invest in Iraqi dinar really strong against why not who keep saying the Iraqi dinars dealers notregistered, Mean yes they are dealer and they go around stuff to make more money like cars dealers or big bank they do this in hidden ways, if somone ask why the big banks don't invest in ID it easy to find the answer.





Danny
San Jose, CA
#14 Sep 12, 2013
Exchange rate is 1166 dinar to 1 US dollar today 9/12/2013 it is a scam.
Hussein Ali wrote:
I will not say it is or it is not, In 2008 was 1 USD exchange for 1260 ID / 2012 1 USD exchange for 116 ID in just four years,so it is not scame, and when they revaluate the ID they will not give just one month and any one can just take his IDs and go to the north of Iraq and exchange them ,The gold companies for sure they will not like invest in Iraqi dinar, no one gave good reason to not invest in Iraqi dinar, Iraq has the second oil reserve in the world sooner or later the Iraqi dinar gose back to 1ID exchange for 3.25 USD and don't tell me that it was because Saddam wanted that, because he was buying things like weapon for this exchange from the big economy contries like Russa and USA, it is slow but it gonna happen, ther is a lote reason they dont wanna people know about that like the gold people, rich people stay rich and other stay just money machine makers, if we compare why and why not we found the reasons for invest in Iraqi dinar really strong against why not who keep saying the Iraqi dinars dealers notregistered, Mean yes they are dealer and they go around stuff to make more money like cars dealers or big bank they do this in hidden ways, if somone ask why the big banks don't invest in ID it easy to find the answer.







Danny
San Jose, CA
#15 Sep 12, 2013
It is a scam , exchange rate is 1166 Dinar to 1 US dollar according to the Central Bank of Iraq official website 9/12/2013






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by RamblerNash
on Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:44 pm
 
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Topic: Iraqi Dinar Scam
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RE: Yo-Man, Letter To Yosef

RE: Yo-Man, Letter To Yosef
by One Who Believes


After reading your post to Yosef today (Link Below), I felt compelled to speak for the rest of us in Dinar-Land who love, enjoy, and look forward to the SITREPs that are posted.

I feel your frustration and anxiety as you wait for the 800#s to be released. It is clear that is your main focus and "Complaint" that the timing offered didn't happen. Welcome to the Real World where things don’t always happen as they are planned.

Like you, I wish it would just happen just as predicted, but the last time that strategy was tried, we got 9-11. Did you know that this was originally planned to go on September 12, 2001 and everyone knew it, including the bad guys? I understand the true death count for that event was closer to 30,000 people and 15 years of Hell ever since. 

As a result of that painful lesson in being fully transparent about the plan, there is a new and much more careful strategy in play. By the way, this event is not about you cashing in and getting rich, it is about fixing a World that has gone rouge, where 90% of the World's population has been marked for death by the elite. So you are going to have to get over the idea that the rate and date is all that important. What is Important is that we all get through this alive and end up with a Beautiful Loving World to live in. 

However, since you most likely have currency, you have simply gotten a ticket to cash in on the greatest event this World has ever seen. BUT, You have to choose your "Participation Level" in this event wisely, based on your tolerance level.

Level #1)
No Currency,
No Interest,
No Participation
& No Reward


This is the Level that most of the World is at. They don't have any currency due to ignorance or decision not to participate. This is the easiest level of all because they don't know what is going on and don't care. Not once have they stayed up late, or woke up early looking for and expecting to see 800#s. This group gets plenty of sleep and goes about their day oblivious to the REAL events happening behind the scenes in our World. However, as great as this may seem, they won’t become Millionaires overnight either. They will be dependent on the generosity of others like us who are participating in changing our World at a higher, more active level. While it may seem at first that this is a very relaxed place to be, it is not. They may not have anxiety about when the RV will happen, but, they most likely do have anxiety about the stock market, and turmoil in the World. They don’t have the safety of knowing that they will be wealthy one day and that the Good Guys will soon be running the World.

Level #2)
Have Currency,
Some Interest,
No Participation
& Small Reward


At this level, a person may have a few Dinar notes and maybe even a few of the others as well, but they are safely tucked away in the Proverbial sock drawer for someday when it revalues. One day, they will find out that it has revalued and they will mosey on down to their local bank and exchange it for the international rate, which of course is the low rate/reward. They believe they will have some big money one day, but aren't in desperate need for it now, or else they would be haunting the Internet like we are. While they may know there will be a revaluation one day, they most likely have no idea about the changes in the Governments and the World.

Level #3)
Have Currency,
High Interest,
Low Participation
& High Reward


At this level, a person probably has quite a bit of Currency and/or Interest in the GCR. However, they typically are not in great need of money and as a result, only pay slight attention to what is going on. They may check the rates on Forex, or some other website, or get word from others who are paying more attention to the event. They are not in desperate need for the money or else they would be haunting the net for Intel, and on every Intel call. I know a lot of people in this category. They are my friends and I send them updates on the latest Intel as I come across it. They don’t live or die on the dates posted in the Intel. They just casually follow the state of affairs of Dinar-Land. These people will get the High Reward, because when the 800s do come out, I will be informing them, and they will get the high rates that are available in the first 6 days.

Yo-Man, this is where you should be. Just find someone who will tell you when the 800s come out and sit back and relax. But, I detect a Desperation, or great need for the funds? Have you ever heard the saying that "A Watched Pot never boils?" Needing the Pot to boil (800s to come out) makes it seem like there are 50 hours in a day. It seems like it is forever already, and still it has not "Happened!!!" Stop watching the pot already. Let it happen when it happens. Now let's look at the "Top" level, where I live!

Level #4)
Have Currency,
High Interest,
High Participation
& High Reward


This is the EXTREME level of Dinar-Land. I am on every Intel call. I have stayed up all night waiting for 800s and gotten up every day expecting them to be in my inbox. But no, it hasn't happened yet. But that is the Game, like it or not. If you have paid any attention to this at all, you know that this is an Epic Battle between Good and Evil. The Good Guys have to get this HUGE 209 Country Event across the goal line without the Bad Guys killing everyone, and stopping it. This is the biggest game of strategy you have ever seen and probably ever will. We have the "Galatics" on our team and the Bad Guys have the "Reptilians" on their team.

This Level 4 is where the action is. Everyday there is new Intel, often fleeting at best, but still it is the REAL-TIME status of the event. I understand it is not for everyone. It takes a certain kind of person to get on this roller coaster ride, of international intrigue, spies, deception, Real Intel, False Intel, and in many cases life and death as well. This is the Leading edge of the biggest Battle Earth has ever seen, and one that will go down in history for the next 10,000 years, and you are upset because the "Go Time" didn't pan out?

Clearly, Level 4 is too intense for you and that is O.K. I suggest that you find someone that is in the "Trenches" at Level 4, like me, and ask them to email or call you when the 800s come out. Easy-Peasy, Problem solved.

Dinar-Land is Like a Smorgasbord (Just As It Should Be)


In Dinar-Land, there is something for everyone. Constant up-dates about Iraq which personally, could put me to sleep. There is all the Fear-Porn saying we are going to be rounded up and put in camps. Please.. If you have been paying any attention at all, the Good Guys are winning and here is a Spoiler Alert, it all works out in the end. Then there is the NESARA people and the rates and dates people which frankly is my cup of tea. I love being up to date on what the latest "PROJECTIONS" are. Here is another Spoiler Alert, it doesn't always happen. Get over it already.

The point is, like anything and everything else in life, take & follow what you like and leave the rest alone. I don’t write posts saying "Enough About Iraq Already!" That is not my place or my right. Instead, when I am on my Daily Hunt (Haunt) of internet posts and data, I just pass by what I am not interested in and only read what I am interested in. What a concept! You just skip what you don’t like or want to read. But please, with all due respect, don’t presume that you are in a position to decide what posts are or are not appropriate in Dinar-Land. None of are in that position or should we be. It's called Freedom of Speech and Expression.

Frankly, in my case, finding a new SITREP is like scoring a touchdown. I can't wait to read it and find out what is really going on. But, that's my opinion and I am as much entitled to my Opinion as you are to yours. But, please don’t decide for me, and others, what should be posted and what should not.

In short, if Level 4 is too stressful for you, just move back to the Level 3 (Ride), where you still get the Big rewards, but don’t experience the ups and downs of the Extreme Level 4 Roller coaster.

Signed: "One Who Believes"


P.S. As soon as I finish uploading this comment to you, I am going to search for a new SITREP and I sure hope I find one. Frankly, I can't wait to get this post done so I can start searching for it as soon as possible.
by Ssmith
on Fri Jul 08, 2016 3:15 pm
 
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Topic: RE: Yo-Man, Letter To Yosef
Replies: 5
Views: 1643

You Are Holding ALL The Aces!

[b]You Are Holding ALL The Aces!

Understanding Your New Power Position In The Up-Coming Exchange[/b]

Back in the day (Cabal System), the Banker sat in the "Power" Chair, as he had the Power to say yes or no to your loan request. The Banker had the four Aces of Power and you were often holding nothing, and forced to fold. However, in the New System, you hold all Four Aces of Power. You are the one in the coveted "Power Chair" with all the advantages on your side.

Ace #1) The System

Before: The Banker had all the power of the System because it was rigged against you and in favor of the Bankers. The system was wrought with Fraud and misconduct, with the loser being you the customer. The SWIFT money wiring system would be delayed for days if not weeks so that the bad guys could make money on your money as you were forced to wait till they were ready to give it back to you.

Now: That System Ace has been handed to you the customer/client. The System is rigged in your favor now with full bank accountability and corruption free transparency. Every move they make is watched like a hawk by the new software which can track transactions 40 moves back. The new wiring system sends your money to its destination in seconds. No more delay, no more fraud, no more hassle.

Ace #2) The Money

Before: The Banker had the money that you needed. This gave him the Second Ace of Power because he had what you needed and as a result he controlled the transaction to his favor and his conditions.

Now: That Money Ace has now been handed to you giving you all the power. You have the Money that the Banker needs to meet his Basel III requirements and stave off Bank collapse. You are the one in a position of deciding the conditions and rates that you want and he is desperate to meet your conditions.

Ace #3) The Knowledge

Before: The Banker had the Ace of knowledge and resources to control the transaction. He knew all the rules and took advantage of your ignorance of banking protocols.

Now: That Knowledge Ace has now been handed to you giving you all the power. In many cases you actually know more than the Bankers you will face in this transaction. You have been given inside information and valuable knowledge of the rates available. You know that the ZIM is a bond, and I dare say that the Exchangers probably don't. That knowledge of what to expect and what you can get in the form of rates, perks, interest, and services makes you very powerful in the negotiation and is a decided advantage to you.

Ace #4) Walk Away Power

Before:
The Banker had the Ace of Walk-Away Power. The power to say yes or no and that is the Ace of Spades, the Trump card which is the final word. No matter your case, or your need, he had the power, in the end, to just say no.

Now: That Walk-Away Ace Trump Card has now been handed to you giving you all the power to say yes, or say no and walk away. That is a formidable power now that the Banks desperately need your Gold Backed Funds to meet their new stringent Basal III requirements. They can no longer fix their books and get away with things. They need you to say yes and agree to let them exchange your Currency and leave it with them as well. I understand that your Exchange is so important to them that they have been told "Don't Let anyone leave the building with currency in their pocket." Of course they can't technically physically stop you from leaving, however, they are authorized to make you an offer that is so good it will stop you in your tracks and bring you back to the negotiating table. That is your trump card the Ace of Spades to say no thank you and leave.

You Hold All The "Aces Of Power" Now

With these four Aces Of Power, you now control the Exchange Negotiation. Know your power, and take charge. This is not meant in an antagonistic way, but just know you have the power and don’t have to agree to anything you don't like or want. If you want more clarity and a more detailed explanation, ask for it. Notice that they are very attentive to your wants and needs now. You sit in the seat of power and hold all the cards. Ask for what you want and expect to get it, or a good reason why not.

A Humors View of an Exchange Conversation/Negotiation

(For Entertainment Purposes Only)

In this example of an Exchange, think of the Bank as the Buyer of very valuable Baseball Trading Cards (Your ZIM). Think of your ZIM as the Most Valuable Cards (Bonds) Ever Printed and the Banker would like to have them in his collection/vault.

You: "Mr. Banker, I am interested in Exchanging these Items (Zim Notes) for cash, and would like to hear your best offer."

Banker: "May I see those Zim Notes and Authenticate them?"

After you hand them over to the Banker, he continues...

Banker: "Oh my! These are very nice and of exceptional value. I see that they are of a 2008 Vintage which is a very good year for these notes. They have the coveted three rocks on the back and have a very large face value as well. According to my authentication books, these have all the right safety features and are in fact authentic. As you know, these were considered low grade collector's Items, for many years, but in recent years, they have experienced a tremendous surge in value and are coveted by knowledgeable enthusiast Worldwide. I am prepared to offer you this rate (Millions, Billions, Trillions) for each one you have."

You: "Thank you Mr. Banker for that offer. If I were the ordinary Joe on the street, I would take that initial offer in a heartbeat and consider myself lucky for it. However, I have studied these Currencies and have become quite well informed over the years as to their true value. There are several factors that cause this particular Currency to be more valuable than any of the others. Consider that:
A) These Zimbabwe Notes are not just ordinary currency notes but are in fact Bonds levied against the Government of Zimbabwe, it's in ground assets, and all the natural resources at its disposal. While that is a considerable value in itself, based on the extensive Gold and Platinum deposits, and Diamonds in the country of Zimbabwe, it pales in comparison to its other valuation basis.

B) As it turns out, the Zimbabwe Currency is to become the Reserve Currency of the entire Continent of Africa and as such, it becomes a Bond against all of Africa's vast In-Ground Assets, as well as its valuable resources above ground. Additionally, Africa has "Rare Earth" minerals that are extremely Rare on this Planet, and are indispensable to the manufacture of the coming advanced technologies.

C) Additionally, since it is a Bond secured by the extremely valuable assets of all of Africa, I don’t expect to have any zeros taken off. Who ever heard of dropping zeros off of a Bond in good standing?

Mr. Banker, for these reasons and more, I am thinking of a rate Ten Times (10x) the one you have offered here today."

Banker: "That rate is far more than we are able to pay (Exchange) for your currency. However, we can offer you a rate of Five Times (5x) what I have previously mentioned as well as some valuable perks as a bonus for doing business with us such as, Private Jet Service, 24 Hour Concierge Services, Lifetime tickets to your favorite sporting events, etc, etc."

You: "Mr. Banker, that is a nice offer, and by the way, I have some ideas for some other perks that you haven't mentioned, but we will talk about those after the exchange when I decide whether or not I will keep my money in your Bank and for how long.

However, for now, how do I know that rate is the Best rate available for my Currency? While I will honor any Non Disclosure Agreement I sign with you, I am going to find out what others got for their Currency one way or another, and I would not like to discover that I could have gotten more than what you have offered me. What assurance can you give me that I am getting the VERY Best Rate possible for this currency and why should I exchange with you and your bank over the others?"

Note: At this point don’t be a pain. Get all the information you need to be comfortable with the rates, and the Bank, or else walk. You are not required to Exchange your currency if you don’t want to. Do not move ahead with the transaction if you don’t feel good about it. What do you need to feel good? More information? A second opinion? Do what you've got to do, get what you have to get. Etc. Above all, have fun and be happy as the ball is in your court now and you are holding all the Aces of Power.

Signed: One Who Believes
by Ssmith
on Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:12 pm
 
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Topic: You Are Holding ALL The Aces!
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Views: 2497

Martha is Back!!! 6/22/16

#1 China and BRICS are not that powerful. absent china they account for about 5% of the world domestic product. Combined, they account for less than the US or EU. China was teaching no one a lesson last year. Their economy was in a death spiral and they were desperately trying to pull out, which fortunately they did. The reality is they need the US a whole lot more than the US needs them.

#2 Wells Fargo does not have a currency division, although they do do currency exchange as a part of it's banking services. Nor does WF have any corporate offices in Reno. A few branch offices, but no corporate offices, none, nada, zilch.

#3, there is no GCR, return to gold standards, or dragon family. The booklet is a complete fabrication.

#4 Assuming you had such a windfall, only an idiot would use non-interest bearing accounts. There is no advantage to doing so, and you would lose what interest you would have gained. Further, you would no sweep a non-interest bearing account, since there are no gains to sweep.

#5 There are no asset backed currencies. Nor are there new Federal Reserve Notes.

#6 CEDARS actually make some sense if you have multi millions in cash in a bank, but why? No even halfway savvy investor would do that. Nor, again assuming you even have enough money for that to be a concern, should you. Find a good Financial Advisor, one you "click" with and listen to his advice. Not some know nothing fool who has by her own admission lost a bundle in what must have been a sketchy investment scheme from the start.
by Kevind53
on Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:49 am
 
Search in: GURU FICTION & PREDICTION DAILY
Topic: Martha is Back!!! 6/22/16
Replies: 11
Views: 3222

Martha is Back!!! 6/22/16

Monday Evening news from Martha:
Good afternoon.Well thanks for updates but point is is that the ptb,again don't want to go down without a battle
Well,China has said "screw you" and now you are going to learn a lesson.I hope it doesn't take too long.
The big guys who continue to steal from our accounts are done for.
I feel sorry for the innocent people of US but if they had taken blinders off and woken up,this could have been stopped.We all talk about it BUT talk is cheap.

All I can say is be prepared for what maybe total shut down of the US banking and stock market.Remember we are still in the Shemitah and this past summer/fall,China and the BRICS showed what could happen but I feel they tempered it.Today they are ready to destroy us,so we can rise from the ashes to a new world so to speak.

Watch ALL their actions.I saw reference to Reno.Someone asked me why Reno.Almost 2 years ago my business partner spent 3 weeks out there trying to connect with the Admirals group which did not happen.Reno is the home of Wells Fargo currency center for Western US and I believe far East.I also believe San Francisco is another link for the far East as well.Follow the money.

Wells Fargo has THE contract for the exchange thus I would have to say that there is not an issue with bail - ins at this bank.

Realize that the rates are locked in as of 12-25.Also several months ago an excellent 13 page booklet was on recaps about the BRICS Alliance and the Dragon family and the return of the gold standard.Besides the excellent history,the rates were posted with international,market,and contract.There were those who insisted that this whole booklet was bogus but I must say that it is almost 100 percent point on
If you are going to ask my plan about the bail- ins it is very simple.

#1 Wells Fargo to exchange
#2 Don't wait for basket 2 and 3-only international rates and they mat only be a little bit higher than rv - they will be locked and not float.
#3 take contract rates and run!
#4 at this time the collateral world funds have not been fully signed off so I wouldn't sit back and wait.
#5 use non interest bearing accts and don't let them sweep the accts just yet.
#6 we are exchanging asset back to asset back currency.Banks can only use fiat currency for bail ins
#7 protect the money - insure it with cdars,ins policy aka Loyd of London and place under a trust,llc,foundation.
#8 taxes- currency exchanges are tax free events in most states.The dinar is considered an investment currency but is it? Say "NO" you are only exchanging it.Dont get tripped up the banksters.It is NOTB.

Keep it simple.2 years ago,I set a plan in place and I was told to stick to it.As many times,I thought about changing it,I didnt.I just added to it.I am not a greedy person and I  have no desire to play the currency market.I did years ago and lost thousands and over a million with a group that the FBI wouldn't do anything about.
by Ssmith
on Wed Jun 22, 2016 9:42 am
 
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Topic: Martha is Back!!! 6/22/16
Replies: 11
Views: 3222

WSOMN Saturday Drama 6/18/16

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ADMINBILL wrote
1h ago
HAPPY LUNCH BREAK EVERYONE

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ADMINBILL wrote
1h ago
HERB - IMO THE GOAT AND DR. C ARE/WERE PLANTS

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Sumpie wrote
1h ago
One observation I had with Dr. C's "contribution" is that he believed the U.S. was omnipotent.

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Sumpie wrote
1h ago
Observation #2, his statement that "if it doesn't happen by the 17th - we'd saya there's a 20% change by the 17th". Surely, a typing error. Also, "we think there's a 99% probability that Iraq will raise their rate the last wekk of September." Wait, he just said 20% change by the 77th and 99%change during (not "by") the last week of September.

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ADMINBILL wrote
1h ago
GOOD RUMOR TODAY. This is what I have so far : The Admiral group people were called to meeting this morning.

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Sumpie wrote
1h ago
Observation #3, He siad, Oil- Petro dollar: Folks, oil will be around a long long time, and the U.S. is going to become even more entrenched in it and support..." ANY observer of the U.S. establishment of the Petro dollar and it control until a few years ago. knows that the U.S. has be loosing control to countries who are trading oil in non-USD. Russia and China, Syria and India, et ceteral. How does this person suggest the U.S. is going to become "even more entrenched"?

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Sumpie wrote
57m ago
Observation #4, Dr. C sets up a straw man in saying "This is NOT about the Chinese Government bailing ou the world." Strong, but dumb language. It is not, nor has it been understood to have been the Chinese Government. But the private holders (families, etc). You know this Dr. C, RIGHT? Surely you know that MAO failed uterly in getting his murderous hands on the gold that some VERY smart people believe to represent 90% of all the gold in the worlkd. Yes, Dr. C. You know this.




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Sumpie wrote
48m ago
Obsrvation #5, Dr. C is an arrogant and imperious and Mt. Goat. Surely, his great knowledge should bring him to stoop to us poor little idiots and help us understand. Well, he is a bully. Plus is language is 9th grade stuff. He used crap 3 gimes, BS 13 times, insanity 4 times, nonsense 2 times, insane 6 times. Please do you need to speak to us using 34 over-the-top works. I, for one am not impressed.

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Sumpie wrote
47m ago
Observation #6, Iraq and VN are the U.S.'s trophies? Well, I was in the military during the VN war and I do not remember carrying the trophy back in '72.

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Sumpie wrote
42m ago
Observation #7, regarding the CE: "...your money is your money...legally they can't even do this...nonsense about having humanitarian goals, plans business...insane, Don't be Stupid..." Of course he claims there are not contract raes. If so, he is correct. If there ARE contract rates, they can elect to offer them with any condition they like if it is legal. Another strawman.

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Sumpie wrote
37m ago
8th (and last) Observation: Dr. C says regarding intel providers, "most have NO record of success - especially handling MONEY or BUSINESS." How in the immortal HELL can this persom make such a claim? Does he know who all these people are and their professional background, to boot? Of course not. Yet, he makes such a statments. Ok, C, who the heck are you and what exactly have YOU done that is so superior to the rest? Well, I am waiting. Impress me.
by Ssmith
on Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:33 pm
 
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Wiley Morgan of Gen64 on Skype Chat Friday Night ~ Updated 6/10

WHOA.......  It now looks like none other than [size=24]OKIE OILMAN is indeed JOINED AT THE HIP with the GEN64/WILEY MORGAN/STUDLEY/WF/KCIQD, etc., GROUP!!![/size]


Saturday, June 16, 2012


OKIE OIL MAN - Good Advice On Cashing In ----- NEXT WEEK!




[size=13]DO NOT CALL THE BANKS FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER!
OKIE OIL MAN] I HAVE A LONG POST PLEASE NO TYPING.

[OKIE OIL MAN] Posted with the help of the grass roots Exchange Code team This has been a roller coaster week filled with rumor after rumor. We have personally spent each day this week debunking rumors…the biggest being that there have been people that have cashed out. Folks this is not true. No one has cashed out. In fact the term “cashed out” is not a correct term.

The more correct term is “Exchanged Out” since we will be exchanging dinar (IQD Cash) for dollars (USD Cash). Please all dinarians remember one very simple fact: all the rumors are just that…RUMORS! Always consider any and all information you get as rumors until you see one of two things:
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[size=13]#1 - A live rate on the public site such as www.forex.com and/or

#2 Our group banker calls and says “Here is your Exchange Code…come into the bank!” and you have the Exchange Code in your possession.

[OKIE OIL MAN] We can tell you with great confidence that great progress has been made this last week by the entities that are heading up the Iraqi Dinar and VN Dong RVs. They are very carefully controlling and limiting the amount of information released so that they can get their job done.

So please don’t take RUMORS as fact. Remember what we really care about is live public rate and/or our Exchange Code telling us to come to the bank! Therefore my advice to you is to relax and wait for the FREE Exchange Code and Instructions to come to you via your group or via one of the email auto responders that will be available.

Once you have that information, review it in detail, ask questions to the banker, and make your decision as to what you want to do…use the Exchange Code or not…your choice. Remember the KISS theory…Keep It Simple Stupid…it is very simple. Check it out and you make your choice. It’s a grand plan and what a great way for God’s Wealth Transfer to be even greater! Have a great weekend and Happy Father’s Day to all the Dads! P.S. Dinarians please review this previously posted info from the grass roots Exchange Code Team
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[OKIE OIL MAN] Point #1: Maybe the bank wants your business: if there is an exchange code and instructions that a bank decides to issue, that would secure the bank’s offered exchange rate, that is the bank’s business. Did you ever think that maybe the bank is willing to pay a little more to get your business? Is that called free enterprise and maybe the price the bank is willing to pay to secure a new customer? Have you ever become a grocery store customer because of a grocery coupon they offered?

[OKIE OIL MAN] Point #2: Check it out first: if there is a bank-issued exchange code and instructions, the individuals who have it can go to the bank offering it to check it out and compare it to other currency exchange entities. They are encouraged to shop around. If the individuals don’t want to use it or think it is bad deal then that is their choice. They don’t have to use it. Have you ever checked out a grocery coupon and compared prices?

[OKIE OIL MAN] Point #3: No fees or commissions: NO money or fees should ever be collected from a third party. The bank-issued exchange code will be FREE, once the bank issues it. No one has or is being asked to pay a third party for the exchange code that the bank issues to facilitate an easier exchange process, and to secure a rate that the bank wants to give a group. Have you ever received free grocery coupons that have been given to a club, church, or website mailing list?

[OKIE OIL MAN] Point #4: No third parties: the exchange process is, and will always be between a licensed entity, such as a bank, and the currency owner. Never use a third party or give your currency to a third party for exchange. Have you ever had to sign a contract to use a grocery coupon?

[OKIE OIL MAN] Point #6: No bank-issued exchange code yet: the bank has not yet issued any exchange code or instructions to make the exchange easier, which at that time, will be more beneficial to the currency holder and bank. Once there is a real bank-issued exchange code and instructions, then check it out for yourself and decide if you want to use it. (Point #2). Talk directly to the bank and ask them all the question you desire. Have you ever tried to use a grocery coupon before it has been issued or before the start date of the coupon?

[OKIE OIL MAN] Point #7: No smoke and mirrors: it is really very simple. The bank issues their exchange code and instructions to individuals and group members. Individual members get it FREE and check it out for themselves. Each individual and or group member decides to use or not use it. No contract, no money paid, no fees, totally in the individual’s control. Have you ever used a FREE grocery coupon?

[OKIE OIL MAN] Point #8: Get trusted & professional counsel: it is good common sense and always recommended that a person get counsel from their own trusted friends, family, personal financial planner, CPA, and legal counsel before entering into any transaction. Have you ever asked someone if a grocery coupon is good deal and/or real?

[OKIE OIL MAN] Point #9: Check facts before writing: everyone is recommending that you check out your facts before you start writing any unsubstantiated ideas and thoughts. Have you ever checked out the source of a grocery coupon before telling your friends it is not real?

OKIE OIL MAN] OK DONE - GONE
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by Ssmith
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Wiley Morgan of Gen64 on Skype Chat Friday Night ~ Updated 6/10

Isn't this interesting????
6/30/2012

To Whom it May Concern:

From Grassroots Leadership Teams

This is a grassroots effort originally done to help family and friends..  This has grown into a much larger effort and we just wanted to help all currency holders get the best rate possible in the future . Please feel free to forward this information on to the appropriate individuals as desired.

Point #1: Maybe the bank wants your business: if there is an exchange code and instructions that a bank decides to issue, that would secure the bank’s offered exchange rate, that is the bank’s business. Did you ever think that maybe the bank is willing to pay a little more to get your business? Is that called free enterprise and maybe the price the bank is willing to pay to secure a new customer?  Have you ever become a grocery store customer because of a grocery coupon they offered?


Point #2: Check it out first: if there is a bank-issued exchange code and instructions, the individuals who have it can go to the bank offering it to check it out and compare it to other currency exchange entities. They are encouraged to shop around. If the individuals don’t want to use it or think it is bad deal then that is their choice. They don’t have to use it. Have you ever checked out a grocery coupon and compared prices?

Point #3: No fees or commissions: NO money or fees should ever be collected from a third party. The bank-issued exchange code will be FREE, once the bank issues it. No one has or is being asked to pay a third party for the exchange code that the bank issues to facilitate an easier exchange process, and to secure a rate that the bank wants to give a group. Have you ever received free grocery coupons that have been given to a club, church, or website mailing list?

Point #4: No third parties: the exchange process is, and will always be between a licensed entity, such as a bank, and the currency owner. Never use a third party or give your currency to a third party for exchange. Have you ever given your grocery coupon to a third party to handle?

Point #5 No contract or agreements: there should NOT be any contracts or agreements with currency holders and a third party for the bank-issued exchange code. Have you ever had to sign a contract to use a grocery coupon?

Point #6: No bank-issued exchange code yet: the bank has not yet issued any exchange code or instructions to make the exchange easier, which at that time, will be more beneficial to the currency holder and bank. Once there is a real bank-issued exchange code and instructions, then check it out for yourself and decide if you want to use it. (Point #2). Talk directly to the bank and ask them all the question you desire. Have you ever tried to use a grocery coupon before it has been issued or before the start date of the coupon?

Point #7: No smoke and mirrors: it is really very simple. The bank issues their exchange code and instructions to individuals and group members. Individual members get it FREE and check it out for themselves. Each individual and or group member decides to use or not use it. No contract, no money paid, no fees, totally in the individual’s control. Have you ever used a FREE grocery coupon?

Point #8: Get trusted & professional counsel:  it is good common sense and always recommended that a person get counsel from their own trusted friends, family, personal financial planner, CPA, and legal counsel before entering into any transaction. Have you ever asked someone if a grocery coupon is good deal and/or real?

Point #9: Check facts before writing:  everyone is recommending that you check out your facts before you start writing any unsubstantiated ideas and thoughts. Have you ever checked out the source of a grocery coupon before telling your friends it is not real?


 

by Ssmith
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5/21/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

Guru Bluewolf:   my friend just called, his friend exchanged his iqd. for 3+ dollars.  they gave him a receipt, to exchange in usa on tues he's trying to get a copy of the receipt!

friday 10:15 pm pst reset timer,sunday 5:15pm est revealed, monday 9:15am est seen in usa,,,,,,after 2:00pm est when all world banks are aligned anything goes.  Screens are changing to green any moment now!  Folks I see everything green at this hour and time!  EXCITED!!!!!!to the utmost...there are only 3 colors folks and yes it will go green on all bank screens first...



Guru OkieOil Man:  Boy, the intel/info/rumors are running amuck today.  Lots of speculation about tomorrow night or Monday morning.  I made a choice several days ago to stop posting everyday after I learned that everything was completed....God Bless you and godspeed the R/V.


Guru SteveI:  I cannot not be specific but I do strongly believe that these coming days is our week.  Only a few people in the world know that [Date] answer and I can assure you it is not me.  I can tell you that contracts have been paid in a new rate, thus our blessings is upon us.


GET Team:  got a call from people that I don’t usually get info from.  TK received several calls that he normally doesn’t talk to.  Wanted to get everybody on the call an hour ago.  from a DC source-extremely excited tonight.  one of my sources had phoned TK yesterday.  his people were telling him that this weekend would be the time of this gift. 


we will see Sunday night what the rate will be.  cash-in on Monday or Tuesday.  High source confirmed same info.  we are on the path for Sunday activity past Forex time.  the rate….$4.52 bank and anywhere up to 8.23 CBI. Source way up totem pole in Gov. 


Al really doesn’t have the info on the bank screens.  do have yellow or amber, 3 colors.  green means live.   yellow screen supposedly pinging – flashing a lot at high speeds on the Forex side.   TK thinks we will see it Sunday night on Forex.  just got a pm that the individual in Dubai did get a receipt for their $3+ sending us a copy.  when London Forex opens at 3 am easterSunday/Monday morning we should see it. 


we are in the clear.  pretty much narrowed it down with who and what site was the problem.  GET and Planet Dinar in the clear.  the blackouts in the past because of getting too close to the correct info.  The blackout this time was for safety of peeps.   – not Intel but safety reasons of us, members, staff, mods, etc. for the sites.

Terry has had black vehicle visits in the past.  try to validate who, what, etc. on the site and w/Terry on what we are doing.  they wanted to verify he was not scamming folks, manipulating people, etc.  it is for your protection people.  when you follow their rules it is a good thing.  the blackout request is for all of us. if you don’t follow their rules they will visit you. we have been hearing for quite some time about scamming going on out there so that makes sense.  a lot of web sites popping up everywhere.

Terry happened to know about it and had been told.  we usually hear about it first and this time we were the first to put it out there and contacted the other sites to comply.

My guy is still in complete blackout (through IMF).  could take a week to 2 weeks of in-country RV to when we would see it.  we are still good – just a matter of when it is going to show.  still hearing $7.22 to $8.20 rate.

TK is showing over 60,000 callers.  thanks for getting on this call tonight.  TK has a call into Ty at Dinar Banker.  thanks for using Ty and supporting him.  gives us the direct connection with Ty first for cashing out on our post RV call.

the longer they hold it, more $ on the coffers.  a year ago would be $3-4 rate.  now potential to be much higher.  make us more money in the long run


Guru Bondlady[b]:[/b] I saw where they said 90% of the ebril agreements have been met which is huge.  That remainder 10% of it is what we need to see though.  Set the ministers & we're in like flynn!!...I believe they're just waiting for Maliki and Allawi to give each other that final big old french kiss sealing their agreement on the ministers & parliment will swoop in & vote very fast so that no 1 can get mad & walk out or disagree once the parliment vote goes in it'll pass won't be able to take it back then.

Guru Checkmate:  If no news is good news then things are GREAT!!  We are very close guys, thats all I know


PD Member Bumper64:  AZ Event Registration Questions and Answers

REGISTRATION FOR THE AZ EVENT IS NOW CLOSED!
It's almost time to celebrate!!!!!

Q: Will there be a waiting list?
A: No

Q. How many people are registered?
A. Between 2500 and 3000

Q. I am SURE I registered and have not received an email since late April, what should I do?
A. Leave me a post on this thread

Q. Where will the event be held?
A. If you are registered you will receive that information in a post RV email

Q. What Hotel will host the event?
A. If you are registered you will receive that information in a post RV email

Q. What are the dates of the event?
A. If you are registered you will receive that information in a post RV email

Q. What if I call the hotel where the event is being held and it is already booked?
A. We will sending a list of the area's hotels etc in the post RV email

Q. Will there be babysitting available?
A. No

Q. My kids are really good and know how to be quiet - can they sit by me in the meetings?
A. No - children are not allowed in the meetings

Q. What is the name of the company that will be there?
A.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Q. Will there be name tags?
A. Only for PD moderators and leaders

Q. Can I wear my own name tag?
A. Yes, however many people will not want to advertise who they are or will only want to be identified by their PD name

Q. What if my friend decides to come at the last minute, can I bring them?
A. If they are not registered they will not be allowed in the meetings

Q. What about security? All these new millionaires in one place sounds kind of scary
A. There will be professional security and we are taking many precautions, however you can take steps also by researching how to travel safely with money and how to be wise in how you conduct yourself. Ask, learn, prepare; not just for Az but for the rest of your life.

Q. I LOVE to DRINK and PARTAAAYYYY!!!! Whoo Hooo! Will there be a place for partying?
A. There will be NO ALCOHOL allowed in the meetings AND if you are out of control you will be asked to leave. Please remember that many will be bringing their children

Q. If I have a question that is not answered where do I go to ask?
A. You can ask questions on this thread, first please check all questions and answers above.   Edited 21 May 2011 by Bumper64



DV Member Story #1Ok as of this post it is 330 pm 21 may 2011 in Afganistan, i just got off the phone with a representative at Emirates Bank International and its is relatively good news. I call to inquire on documents need to open an account with them and as he finish explaining what i needed i ask if he could answer another question for me/ what is it he said ? Is your bank doing exchange withe the IQD, he said yes and i said could you give me the exchange rate, and he said that they sell at .00322 per dinar and they and they buy back at .00315. Ok also i called the Habib Bank A.B. in Dubai and ask the same about opening account and then ask about the IQD and they told me that when i come in to open account we will discuss those transaction but this lady did say that they will be exchanging the dinar in the very near future.


I dont know if that is good news but it sounds good to me because that means something is going on and im kinda hype right now (not to hype  ). Thats about $3220 per million. I dont know what the FOREX is saying but i will check that as soon as i finish this cause i wanted to put this out there first. This is not rumor this is fact. Anyone can call any of these banks and see what they say.

Oh!!  all you will need is your passport , a copy and a po box from your state for address... I hope this is good news, it is for me....

Lets Go RRRRR VVVVVVV


DV Member Story#2:  Everyone who is wondering how Iraq can possibly afford a strong RV such as a $3,87 as predicted by George Robinson to happen by June 1, GOOGLE these words and scroll to Wikipedia "FRACTIONAL-RESERVE-BANKING". Then all you Vets can explain it to the Newbies.


DV Member Story #3OK every body, This is my very first topic. So if u will take it easy on. I've been in this for a very long time. I've worked all over this world. I've been in Afghanistan for three long years. I'm just like every body on here. Waiting on this too go down. You have some many people come on say they R V ed, here and there. DXB is cashing in there or this are that. There will not be a R V, until they place the three MINISTERS. No if's but about it. So please wait, and be Cool it will come. Thanks SANDFLY



DV Member #4Hi Folks,
I have a couple of sources in country (Foot on land), and they seem to be giving me positive indication to me lately. They're looking upbeat and telling me an RV of upto a minimum of 0.33$ to a max of 0.86 is possible.

They're not quite upbeat on a good rate (Above 1$), but whatever they expect is enough for us. They've given me some news which turned to be true and seem to be knowledgable guys in iraq who study finance & Banking sector well, So, I'm keeping my hopes alive.

Hope we see RV by end of June!!!

GO RV!!

Michel
by Ssmith
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Intel highlights from The Big Call Thursday Night 5-19-16

Intel highlights from The Big Call Thursday Night 5-19-16

Transcribers Artneto, LocoFelipe:

Bruce call starting.

Bruce, Ken , Yosef and Sue.

Bruce; it is now thrusday may 19th... glad everyone is here. and want to thank everyone for their coming in and listening to us.

Bruce; everyone is staying very occupied, but continue to move forward.... opening with prayer

Bruce - teaching ending. Now moving to the Praise Report, then Prayer Request, then intel at the end

Bruce; intel now

Bruce - the Blessing is at our door. No rates or dates, but rates are higher than we thought
....


Bruce; we don't rates and dates but I can tell you this blessing is far greater than anyone thought

Bruce - Let's first start to speak about general information that was learned today

Bruce; talk in general terms about what we learned today and the Sue will have some points that we will talk on tonight

Bruce - Bank redemption centers are ready and well staffed, ready for this to happen anytime now

Bruce; we know announcements were made in Iraq yesterday..... we know that the lower denoms are out

Bruce - announcement was made in Iraq yesterday - lower denoms are out and being used - Key cards are being used internationally, even in the USA - Iraq has been freed and they are ready to go with new dinar and new rates

Bruce; what this tells us is that Iraq is off and running and that is great, but we know it is more than iraq. so now we are seeing the world being levelled out and all currencies being asset backed

Bruce - we will be gold backed

Bruce; that makes the value of everything going up as well as our confidence in these countries

Bruce - our currency will be called USN - not USD - (notes are gold backed, dollars are fiat)

Bruce; joseph- thank you, it is an honor.... at this last and final stage... we certainly hope so

Bruce, you did an awesome job laying it out there

Bruce/Yosef - This is our last and final phase of the RV

Bruce/Yosef - so much has happened since last call on tuesday.

Bruce/Yosef - we are in a GO situation from banking , diplomatic, military, security, political positions. If we are not there, we are awfully close

Bruce; hard intel, I think it is best to understand that we are a 'go' in a banking persective, the diplomatic perspective, the govermantal perspective, and they have all been checked off

Bruce; it is lovely to have Sue and her beautiful voice to be on this call

Bruce; Sue- disclaimer.... no rates, no pay outs, not lawyers, bankers, or actors who play them on tv

bruce/Yosef - we want to tell you everything, but it would take too long. We have a list … we will not do the bank's job of discussing rates and structured payouts

Bruce; WF is the lead bank.... but there are other banks that are a great part of this as well

Bruce/Yosef - There are other banks besides WF, Chase - RBC, Scotia, TD Banks

Bruce not only here but banks in Canada as well.... and our brothers and sisters in
Mexico

Bruce/Yosef - Bruce says, in spanish, that he loves Mexico

Bruce; thanking the bank to make this a relationship thing.... not a us verses them scenario

Bruce/Yosef - we are partnering with the banks, we are being blessed and we will be good stewards

bruce; all the people and governments, banks, all the organizations who are participating in this event

Bruce/Yosef - we are more than dinar, dong and zim. We are a community of dinarians.

Bruce; we are all working together even the currency community. it is good taht we have community, where we can reach out and say 'well done'

Bruce/Yosef - Sue to bring list ..
.
Bruce - 14 points - #1 - Per IT engineers working on Bric financial system. They are now comfortable with their control over CIPS mechanism

Bruce:  1- per IT engeneers they are now comfortable with the system, and ahve given the final release to go forward

Bruce/Yosef - this means all codes for every country in the world!!

josef-- all the people who have done all the work for this to happen... decades of work of strategy updates and programming

josef, these are the ones who are now happy with t he release..
..
Bruce #2 - over 20,000 service staff at 5,500 exchange centers - were still on duty as of Tuesday

2- over 20K office site have been deployed to sites to help out..... are still on site to help us transmission

Bruce - #3 - at 1:06am EST reset satellites, one for each hemisphere so that new system could be calibrated

3- 1:06 eastern on THursday two satilites were activated to coordinate the transactions

Bruce - The engineering portions are being worked out globally! This is historical and amazing

Bruce - that was 1:06 am on Thursday/today

4- some transactions will take 23 seconds to complete, and some will take 53 seconds..... the swift system would take up to 10 days to complete... and this system has now been unplugged

Bruce - #4 - Under the new CIPS system, some transactions may that 25 seconds to complete. But the SWIFT system, which took 10 days to complete a transaction, has been rendered non-functional

5- Thrusday mid morning.... the entire system was reset and all redemtion centers and banks have been reset

Bruce #5 - Thursday mid-morning (today) the entire banking system was re-set

Bruce #6 - Thursday afternoon WF sent memos to all redemption centers to be ready

7- partial glabla liquidity has already been realeased. in order to do final tests to the new financial system

Bruce #7 - Partial global liquidity has already been released including prosperity packages

Bruce/Yosef - this is like a soft opening of a business to ensure that everything works

Bruce #8- Cabal leadership are now being arrested, or sought out anywhere in the world for their crimes against humanity

Bruce/Yosef thanking special forces who are carrying out the arrests around the world

9- the globel rv has never been closer than it has been right now... as memos went out to tell all staff to be prepared.

Bruce #9 - global RV has never been closer than we are now. Memos have gone out to bank branches and redemption centers. We are just waiting for 800##

Bruce:  10- we know all necesary that alll military, and staff are ready and prepared to welcome over 30 million investor

Bruce #10 - military and security is staffed, trained and prepared to receive the currency redeemers. 30M redeemers around the world, not just USA

Bruce - we no longer have to worry about having a regular job. Our new job is learning to be a philanthropist

Bruce #11 - Prudent to look for RV after markets close Thursday evening and initiating by Monday

11- therefore it is prudent to look for the rv to roll out after markets are closed on Thursday evening and Monday morning

12- official hisorical bonds redemtion is scheduled to begin THursday 8p/m eastern

Bruce #12 - official historical bond redemptions scheduled for Friday morning China time, which is thursday evening in USA

13- be at peace because the rv is still happening and in real time. permanently and abundantly...

Bruce #13 - Be at Peace. This is permanent. Do not think that rug will be pulled out from under you after the RV

Bruce - Release bad habits, forgive people. this is an opportunity to be redeemed in Christ. This is a spiritual blessing. You have been released, so release other people and release bad habits. Go into bank asking God for guidance. God have been there when you had nothing. He will be there during and after RV

Bruce - be open to a whole-new-you to create the kind of life for yourself and for others, that you have always dreamed of

Bruce/Sue - God is the light in everything that you create

Bruce - We are jumping into a new life this weekend. Adopt new habits

14- all is well, and thank you to all intel providers. a whole list of people that I want to shout out to...
.
Bruce #14 - All is Well. Thank you intel providers. There are so many! Christopher Watkins (the actor?? - his voice sounds familiar)

josef--- if you don't think we have lost it after so many calls, I am going to go to the corner to sell bananas.... we have gone bonkers

Yosef - if they don't RV this weekend, I will sell bananas on the street. I'm also selling my currency!! LOL!!

Bruce tried to impersonate Marlon Brando and now Inspector Clouseau

josef- someone needs to pray us out, we are getting ridiculous

Bruce/Yosef - help as many people as you can. Do your part

Bruce - hope to celebrate on Tuesday

Bruce - looking forward to a great weekend

Bruce - Pastor Steven closing prayer
by RamblerNash
on Thu May 19, 2016 11:46 pm
 
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Topic: Intel highlights from The Big Call Thursday Night 5-19-16
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the question of the day

Well #1 Tony Renfrow in Prison for $1.6 mill. Lonnie Freels is a has been aka Okie pokie Roger at Dinar Daddy is scum & #2 BGG (Tom Sanders) hits the top list after Tony Turd and Poppy Dan Bloodworth is just under Pond Scum Then comes in at #3 is Frank Villa "Frank26" & Terrence "TerryK" Keller) are tied together #4 James "Wolfyman" Wolf a.k.a. Adam Montana 


But I would ask Anonymous aka Ken S. with Dinar Recaps he should know. Since he posts Guru blogs as "OUR FRIENDS List"! on his site.
:spring1:  

Topics tagged under 4 on Dinar Daily - Page 3 Ddddd10

by TNTBS
on Sun May 08, 2016 10:42 pm
 
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4/28/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

Guru Studley:    I can tell u that I believe IMO we are extremely close... and we have multiple confirmations that the rate will be high..  Your very welcome guys... I focus on the fundamentals of economics... all the rest is mostly smoke and mirrors... some people like seeker, and longfellow have great contacts in Iraq that help me in my analysis.  Understand that this is a very hard event to analyze because this doesn't compare to previous RVs... this is going to be in a basket of appx 57 currencies... that has NEVER been done before... a country cannot operate without a budget, low M2 supply, and inflation approaching 6%.... this is extremely dangerous for Iraq... if one of the many moving parts is not working perfectly,


I have spoken to a number of banks and they r all seeing the same rate, they r all getting prepared for this to happen, I have also told u there would be plenty of people bashing, and giving negative information, but we have to stay grounded.

Guru Frank26:  Frank does not think Sundays US Holiday was the Holiday that Shabs was referring to a couple years ago when he said what would take place prior to the RV/I. HOWEVER, this coming Sunday – which happens to be the 1st of May (no other Sunday falls on the first – which is their Monday right…) AND that happens to also be a holiday there in Iraq. Hmmmmmmmm. Frank says Iraq has a pattern of breaking patterns – so of course they would break the pattern of revaluing on the last Thurs of April. Sunday is the perfect time to start the process. 3 days later will be Wed the 4th allowing them to prepare to release on Thurs. the 5th.

the borders were not shut down due to the RV, but he confirms that Shabibi [later corrected to be his assistant] was in fact on TV at 2pm our time,.. At midnight Shabibi walked out of a meeting with 6 officials from the IMF. While on TV Shabibi talked about the new lower denoms.


Guru TerryK: 
OK YOU ALL WANT A LITTLE JUICE?  YOU ALL HAVE HEARD THAT ALL 70 BANKS PASSED THE ELECTRONIC STREAMING TEST.  THIS IS THE TOP 70 BANKS ACROSS THE WORLD. SOME PEEPS WERE ALLOWED TO CASH IN WITH THE BANKS AS A TESTING.  NO I CAN’T GET ANYONE TO SHOW ME WHAT THEY GOT OR IF IT INDEED HAPPENED.  IM HEARING ITS IN THE 4 BUCK RANGEFOR THE BANKING SYSTEM, LIKE 4.86 AND THE CBI WILL BE ABOUT A BUCK HIGHER OR MORE.  NOW LISTEN TO THIS.  IM HEARING THIS IS THE HANG UP TODAY AND AGAIN I DON’T KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE,  BUT IT FITS.  THE FED RESERVE IS WANTING TO IMPOSE A FLAT TAX ON ALL IRAQ DINAR TRANSACTIONS 15%.  ITS A FLAT 15 % IS WHAT I HEAR THEY WANT PLUS 1.5.
SO 16.5% NO MATTER HOW LONG YOU HAD IT.  THAT’S ALL I HAVE, NOT MUCH.WE ARE WAITING FOR TONIGHT
Guru Delta:  Definitely 100% Iraq has to go international by July 1st – this is not to say they will take that long but they have to do this WAY BEFORE. So today Delta says that its 100% done deal 0 NO DOUBT about it – but fact is the UNSC in Iraq spoketo the foreign minister and asked if GOI to submit the letter on Monday May 2nd to UNSC step by step what they have prepared to save this money and they will report what S and MOF did in NYto open these accounts.

CBI and IMF has the rate and date and when they will launch
it…think about 30 days before and 45days before July 1st – as that date they have to internationally recognized so this RV has to happen before that date…


CBI contact to Delta says the lower denoms have to go all over Iraq and will be done after the rate is announced… And NO LOP – both currencies will co-exist and will have the same value at the new rate….

Guru Athena:  yes we have proof of things that happened.  believe me it will show soon.  anytime bank rate 4.86 cbi 5 to 6.  rest assured it is coming soon,  sit back and relax, get your house in order.  I would suggest you all educate yourself on investing and finance, take some classes or go to seminars and learn, you don't need a degree but you do have to understand things or your investment advisors if you use them will take advantage of you, protect yourself with trusts.

Guru Doonie:  Good Morning to everyone...I have been in contact with my kuwait contacts all morning...What they are telling me is very very good !!! The boarders have been secured to dis-allow citizens from running to Iraq for cash-in. This being they do not want mass quantity of folks in one area as Iraq still has attacks against certain bldg's. The ministers has been presented and we are expecting the release of their acceptance a any moment. One of my contacts personally witnessed a truck load of "something" brought in to the Bank of Basra a few hours ago..My guess is lots of Dinar and USD. ] Then, My Kuwaiti friend e-mailed me which said " your day is here my friend". IMO..we are definitely there (within hours). Get your bank routing number ready, you’re gonna need it....


Guru Adam Montana: the ‘removing of the zeros” we all have to accept that it is possible..  I don’t think it’s likely but it’s possible if they do, a 25000 note will be worth 25... i think a .10-.25 RV is more likely.


Guru RichQueen:  At this point, all I can say is I have heard NOTHING bad about things proceeding as planned. I wanted to see certain results today, but the day ain't over yet, and things happening through Thursday were always a definite possibility. Don't give up hope, folks - more things point to a green light than away from it. Also remember - within HOURS of the Kuwaiti RV there were widespread reports that it would NEVER happen.

Guru DebTarHeelGirl:  popcorn popcorn

Guru ChickenHunter (GET):  im told M got his work done …funds were moved…cant say much about that.also told the us IS going to the tresurey notes.also told more than likley it will pop out tomrrow..but he understands it has to be done by may 1….



o and if any one rembes shebibi a little wil back saying if the the auctons fall verry low that he will pull the hammer..well the last 3 days have ben low.thursday monday tuesday….wont suprise me if they do not have one in the am…..all good sighns Also, everyone is going to need rest in order to figure out what the FED is really going to say tomorrow. Watch for the ‘key words’ during the speech. There will be 16 of them….

Guru Scooter:  it makes complete sense to move the month of May up on the charts as strong target for RV time


Guru Blaino:  i’m hearing some real good stuff…. may have a great lil ::::::::::breaking news:::::::::: story later.  the rate is moving again…we have some well placed people……..  the rv will happen everywhere at once… not “move” around.  Rate is climbing like a homesick angel!  we are inside 24 hours, according to the latest and best intel i HAVE…  SO… Date: the prime opportunity for the rv, imo, is after 9pm central standard time tonight, thurs april 28, 9pm (central standard time) = all banks in usa are closed (even HAWAII)….+… About the time for morning prayers in baghdad, known as the best time for information to be spread to the people!

Guru ChiefV (PTR):  Now for me sharing the information we feel is credible has been more in hope of it happening than feeling that “YES IT”S GOING TO HAPPEN” as there is information available to all that says it’s still 30 to 60 days down the road, June? I’ve always held that in the back of my mind, yet knowing that Iraq has surprised us incredibly with their developments in the recent past that yes, maybe this information we share is true and credible. Am I surprised when it’s not? No not really, thanks to that “numbness wall” I’ve developed.

Guru Poppy2:  Shabibi stated publically according to two reports now that the RV is coming just after ONE more vote from Parliament and they have the information in front of them to do that last vote. Could have been voted on today.

Guru Dan: It's IMPOSIBLE for the RV to happen today (4-28-2011), Friday, Saturday and probably not Sunday either.  Shabibi was not on TV, he didn't have a speech on yesterday and if anyone says he did they are lying to you...if they said the boarder were closed because of RV--they are lying.  I'm 1000% confident that the Iraqi Dinar will revalue, but not until May 1st at the earliest.


Guru Longfellow:  Security Positions filled today. We are Home. Just got to sit back and watch the show. We will see it very soon.  sure enough i can quit my job.  They have not officially announced them but rest assured they were finalized today.

Bank Story:  O.k. take this for what its worth. You people don't know me and i'm definitely am not a pumper. I own a very small amount of Dinar. After reading the other Chase bank rumor I thought i would look into it. I live in Cali so I called a Chase over here. After being transfered to 4 people they did not confirm or deny anything but what they did say was they were like every one else waiting for to receive the rate and find out how they are going to go about cashing it in, after telling me that they said the would give me a real good rate if i cashed in and set up with them.


Bank Story #2Was planning on opening an account with B of A here in Wichita Ks. I spoke with a woman on the phone today that supposedly takes care of the Foreign Currency department. When I explained to her the reasoning for opening the account she proceeded to tell me that " No B of A location will deal with the Dinar. Iraq is a Sanctioned country and has been blocked." I am sure this is just one more example of someone that is not in the "know". We are talking about Wichita Kansas!! Sorry to waste any ones time. This is the first time I have heard the "Sanctioned Country" term.


Bank Story #3: I came across something that struck me as odd the other day and I thought I would share. I am a Personal Banker at a Chase Branch in So. Cal, and last week my Asst. Manager said something that stuck out to me. She was on a conference call with the Regional Operations Manager (these calls happen weekly, and they are usually just to go over new policy and procedure stuff), but one of the topic was that there was going to be a delay in getting the new MRI currency guide.

For those that aren't familiar with an MRI guide (found online at http://www.mriguide.com/), it's a book that we use at the branch to identify foreign currency. Usually it come out twice a year, and we should of gotten it by now, but they said it would be delayed until after June 1st. The first thing that jumped out at me is, could this be because it will have lower denoms in it? I don't know and it could just be due the fact that I look for clues to the RV in everything.

Oh and one last thing: Chase's foreign currency exchange is done via Bank of America. Sounds odd, but when you come in to deposit foreign currency we look it up in our MRI guide, deposit it like cash into your account, then we send it to BofA. Also, not to be a Debbie Downer, but bank tellers generally don't know anything about the upcoming RV. Hell, I'm a banker and I had never heard about it till I got turned on to in December by one of my clients.

So that's my quasi bank rumor, I just thought I would share.


Bank Story #4I went into TD Bank in CT today and purchased my last quantity of dinar as I have finally reached the position in the dinar that I had originally planned for. I was talking with the women who sold them to me and a couple of things were revealed that I found interesting with regards to TD's current policies regarding the dinar.

1. It will take 3 weeks before I will be able to take physical possession of the dinars that I purchased.

2. TD Bank has no current buy back policy for dinar.

3. I asked the woman who was a manager at the branch if she felt that after the Dinar was to revalue did she think that the bank would change their current policy in order to get in on the millions of dollars that would be floating around with all those new millionaires? She said she didn't know but that this was the banks current policy.

4. I then asked her if she thought the branch offices would consider changing their current policiy, if they limited the amount of cash dollars say $10,000.00 and made an electronic entry into my account for the rest of the exchange...while taking a 2-3 % commission for handling the transaction. In orther words, I asked her if her bank could afford to pass on the opportunity to make the profit associated with a currency exchange of that size? Her answer was that she didn't know, she felt that the bank might shift its policies if the RV was to happen but she couldn't be certain and she could only go by what the current bank policy was.

5. I jokingly said to her...well, I have no intention of flying to Iraq so I will have to find another way to exchnage this currency...she said a very curious thing....She said, "I heard a rumor that that is what people will have to do"... I said what fly to Iraq...she said..."yes".... I told her that there were other private dealers and banks that have alreeady said that they will exchange the dinar post RV and she seemed surprised.

I just thought I would share my recent experience with everyone since many believe that we are very close to RV.


Boots on the Ground Story:  This came to me from the person that I introduced to the Dinar about 6 months ago. He emailed it to me and I called him as soon as I received it. Being that I know whom he got it from I know there is no reason for this not to be true. I got this on Monday but have had much hesitation on posting it just because I don't want to get jumped on and bashed. If you don't like the information keep your thoughts to your self and move on. For those that are just hear to take in all of the information and see how it fits the puzzle enjoy!

One of our clients, also a dinar holder, is business partners with an electrical contractor in Iraq. This same company has family that is also working with the US military disengaging land mines and other explosives.

It appears that when it comes to the contractors in Iraq, news of the RV is hush, hush. Even phone calls are monitored. When a contractor of this nature makes a phone call, if the conversation goes to dinar value or RV, the call is immediately disconnected. Many of the contractors know nothing of the RV. Such was the case with the explosives technician – until today.

Apparently, it has taken until last Friday for all of the Iraqi banks to be physically ready for the electronic transmission of rates. This explains some of the delays surrounding the RV (but not all, I am sure).

The explosives technician came very close to quitting his job in Iraq because he had not been paid for 5 weeks. (This tells me Iraq has been intending to pay contractors at the new rate for a few weeks now, but technical and other issues have slowed this down.)

His company offered to loan him money if he needed some, but he was questioning why he was not being paid by Iraq. He had previously been paid in dinar based on the old rates. He was being paid via a Smart Card. (Now, this is the first time I had personally known anyone to confirm that they actually had one of those Smart Cards in their hands and that it was actually functional. Forum rumors are one thing, but an actual person close to home is another.)

This contractor left the country unpaid and unhappy, but he still had his Smart Card (similar to a debit card). Today he discovers that he finally received the last few weeks of unpaid paychecks. There was nothing unusual about the amount he was paid (in dinar) for the work he did, but when he went to the bank to convert and draw out USD, he was given a rate equal to about $4.10/dinar.

This rate was obviously after the bank took their conversion fee and spread. When you do the math on this converted rate compared to the previously reported Smart Cart RV rate of $4.40, it reveals that the bank took a spread of 6.82%. This spread is close to, or just a bit greater than, the spread that banks commonly take when converting foreign currency (5-6%). You can go to any bank that takes Kuwaiti dinar or Euro or Canadian dollars and compare the bank rates with the CBI or FOREX rates and learn this for yourself).

Bottom line, it appears from this man's experience we have learned that:
1. The Iraqi banks are now (finally) online to receive the new rate (and from forum rumors, it appears that the international community of banks were prepared to receive the new rate over a week ago (i.e. the "pinging" that tested the system was successfully completed).

2. The rumors that their Smart Cards have been loaded at a rate close to $4.40/dinar has been physically verified.

3. The RV inside of Iraq appears to have been officially released (at least to the contractors being paid with a Smart Card).

4. WHEN the rest of the world will see the new rate, is still unknown, though common sense says we may only be only hours or days away from it showing up on the FOREX, therefore, at the banks. (This disparity in rates could give a number of contractors an exceptional advantage if it isn't rectified soon.)

Once out of Iraq, this contractor was able to be informed by others as to why he suddenly saw this unexpected massive increase in his paycheck. Guess what this contractor arranged to buy next, since there are still places in the world that sell dinar at the old rate??? I'm not on vacation; this is the way I live.
by Ssmith
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Chat From Generals64. Dinar Guru's still carry on the tradition?

The Generals64 Group claims that they don't do "Rates & Dates", but here is a thread that says otherwise. Do you see all the hype that the other Guru's are still using today?

Posted 22 March 2012 - 09:02 PM


[size=16][generals64] ENOUGH IS ENOUGH:...Hang on to your seats as you're going to get it all right here and now...CAn you REally Handle it??????



[generals64] #1. Wells Fargo America as agreed to work with the Iraqi Dinar when it happens...confirmations from all over the United States....

[generals64] #2....$6.38 has been on the screens at Chase bank for 2 Weeks...I wouldn't and I couldn't tell you guys as i want to make sure of what it is...it's is called a "Marker" number....Was there this morning at *;00 my time (CST)...then went 1`- 1 per the Programmer we talk with. every dang day.

[generals64] #3. Lady LeeLee is the same one that put a voice commanded typo on one of our sources and didn't tell him and we hadn't verified it and she said oh, I'm sorry I just told my friends...I... amd...NOT her friend and I got a copy of it...I was livid and asked to be quiet

[generals64] #4....This morning...TODAY...we talked to dinar UK and the CBi (before they closed....if you want the ladies name let me know....you can't handle it folks...They said it ain't a happeneing for some time...Iraq has NOT released it yet.

[generals64] #5.....The rates of 23.10 to 3.68 are everywhere and No a single Swinging soul knows it...No one as it has to be calculated through the asset division for their currency value....Go figure

[generals64] #6. I told someone everything I had heard two days ago (In Confidence) his story was my family is leaving me blah blah blah...Yesterday Hammerman Printed everything word for word....

[generals64] #7...Today...same person...same scenario....Folks...I don't tell all I hear cause it would make your life crumble. Our sources are real and not a bunch of old men scratching themselves in places they shouldn't....I have busted my Ass to make this be right but I', beginning to feel like SteveI when he got tired of being bashed on his own site.

[generals64] #8....Leave Studley alone...he is trying with all his heart...he too makes mistakes ...I know no one else does...But, if you keep listening to their "Junk"...you're going to be Broke...One of the providers has 17,000 emails attached to his IP address...wonder why????

[generals64] #9...this is so dang stupid...following puppy dogs...these people come on,. they tell you a good story and bam they are the messiah and then another comes and then Bam...I do not have to have this to make a living as I have already made mine....I want it to happen just like you do but come on....

[generals64] #10...No Whales cashing out anywhere...NOTICE NONE anywhere....I have been invited to go and have yet to even see the people...Names don't need to be told as they and you know who they are....

[generals64] #11. If you want story book rhymes...go to the library and throw the dinar in the trash....If you want to know the truth then study it...Don't count on ANYONE to handle your investments period...Never in Life....

[generals64] #12. This site and its owner has been the most level during this whole thing....I had a bad thing happen to me when the shout room was here...I then got my cell phone hacked (along with kcmana) but caught that fool...he is one of the gurus yopu all follow...Remember this,....i have so many friends from years past in the three letter agencies that you couldn't begin to imagine...Those giving me a hard time need to be careful with what they post as from now on all bets are off...and it will all be told straight up in this room unless Cool Clown Fish kicks me off and bans me...

[generals64] #13....Hammerman's Father asked me to cut him some slack as he was afraid it was afeecting him personally...Hammerman told me one night he had told some lies but he felt it was his responsibility to keep the rooms level and calm...

[generals64] #14....Now...when is theis going to happen...I was told this morning at 10:00 am...it didn't...I was told at 2:00 pm....it didn't...I was told whales all over the country had been called by Wells Fargo...they weren't...what else do you want to knwop cause tonight I'll tell you all I know and it is not pretty folks....

[generals64] The banking deal we have been working on is with Wells Fargo...We talk EVERY DAY...they are ready and are willing to make us a deal that will scald your grandkids....they want the business...My girls waNT NOTHING AND IF I were treated the way they have been I would have told everyone to kiss my backside......If you treat your friends (you know who I'm talking to) this way then I don't need you and you (you know who you are) will be the last person in the world to cash your dinar out...Promise...I have held my integrity to the highest until tonight...but tonight folks...ask your questions

[generals64] I am Generals64 and I approve this message.

[generals64] If you guys will stop the board and don't pm me...I am calming down but, I'll answer them all...and, i am a big boy...but I am really upset...Guys/Gals...we need to financially help CCF with this site....one way or the other..

[generals64] Fireproof:...Look...I have held the closet I can to keep from telling the BS...Even Bookings will tell you guys that....The truth is not known by anyone...I mean NO one...

[generals64] MAVERICK :...yes it would...some can do more...some can't do any....If we could actually stop the board one question at a time I'll really explain it all

Q & A Session:
[Cheesehead] generals64 SO from what you posted... It ain't happening for a while... because you said that you heard Iraq has not released... So when do you think sir?
[generals64] Cheesehead Cheesehead Cheesehead :...the CBI told us yesterday they were upset with the us as they (USA) were making their country look bad...and that they had nothing to do with it...WE Called the CBI FOLKS for you....then this morning we called a lady with dinar UK (Lori) and she said it was completely in the hands of the UST...She then told us that as long as there were auctions they would not be RV'ing....However...Lori (same lady ) said yesteday that they were expecting this to happen any time now.................Truth I'll give you their phone numbers...The guy at the CBI was put on a three way call

[mammat] ok....It was posted that Studley had already negotiated with WF at cbi +2. What happened
[generals64] mammat;...Studley is a good guy...I have already growled at him as he is talking too much ...there are people who expect everything said to be true....Actually, we (studley) 10%...he then said a dollar but He told me he was working for the entire Bank Spread....for Everyone....Everyone is EVERYONE in and on every site...There was a rumor about him a couple of days ago and I got on him pretty hard and he came back pretty hard...The guy who had him invetigated called and apologized...people make mistakes...The rate we heard today/tonite...23.10 govt. gets $5.00 and the bank gets $2.00 and we get the rest...I also heard $14.38 was showing on Chase bank Screen...No One knows so don't listen to it....I trust Studley until he proves me wrong...Anyone with a Great Dane named "FIfi" is OK in my books.

[joyjoyjoyjoy] Hi and THANK you! Can you tell me how cash-in groups work? Does everyone physically come to the bank at the same time? If so, what security measures would/should be taken? Sure appreciate your caring spirit!
[CoolClownFish] You will not be going to the bank with anyone else. you simply tell them who you are your with this group and your name and you can cash in at the predetermiled rate with that package.
8:33 PM [CoolClownFish] answered that one for ya

[MAVERICK] this is for General , my question is if your that connected then why cant you give us a proximate rate and day , or what is really going on
8:35 PM [generals64] Real Hold up????...I was told it was our Treasury department...First...no Gag orders anywhere...the Ust people laugh everytime I say that....as a matter of fact that's their standing joke.....The guy at Chase told us that everyday at 1:59 the 6.38 rate on the IQD goes back to Zero....Today he told us he was unable to even get to the screens until 3:00 pm...EST...Kinda Strange....The people in CHINA we are talking with said this should have been done 4 weeks ago....I can't figure it out and they can't figure it out...There were some Virus's found up to about 2 weeks ago but they are fixed

[gr8teth] What is the % possibility of the rv going to our elections in Nov?
8:35 PM [generals64] Rumor and Rumor only...We could see this tomorrow...Maybe with me blowing up something will be done.
8:36 PM [generals64] gr8th:...no way

[ZMAN2011] any truth to the statement that the U S is being punidhed for the hold up by being forced to pour in moneo from threasury to reach rate levels? ty
[generals64] ZMAN2011 :...I heard that but just before I found out I had been betrayed and I haven't check it out

[eleanor] generals64 I think the timing is more important to us all than the rate could you elaborate on your statement of it not happening for a while?
[generals64] Precious (elanor)....the entire thing should have happened this country seems to need the money...However, I was really told the whole thing was outta IRAQs hand...and in the hands of the IMF...The IMF has signed off and released it is what i was told...and folks this person is too wel connected...and he might see this so I can't say.

(bookings) generals can you confirm what I hjeard that the rv is happening tonight and the rate is $22.00

8:40 PM [generals64] bookings...i have heard the $22.00 and the 23.10 and the $6.38 and the 14.38 and teh $1236 rate for days...I told you that....But I don't know about it happeneing tomorrow..I sure hope so...YOU bookings know I talk with a Wealth mangement person with Wells Fargo almost everyday....and she is not seeing anything...Folks,...she is sharp as a tack

[beachdreaming] i would like to know if Geitner or Obama is truly holding it back.. who can force them to get it done?
[generals64] beachdreaming...I really think it is Roscoe cause he only got 7 milkbones to 1...No, I don't think it is O or Giethner....this is more than that.

[generals64] I'm not sure about the intent that has come forward and said We (I) are fluffing our feathers etc....just for the klnowledge in this room a...and i am going to be flogged by kcmand and 4th time...But, We have over 3 Tillion dinar to work with...do you think we carry a big enough stick...that is with a T folks...not aB orM


[eleanor] How can we help you, phone calls, moniterr sites, emails, whatever?
[generals64] dlenor...the people we deal with used to trust the other GURUS and other site leaders...they hav ebeen burned so bad they won't talk with anyone...this room has had a bad name of Bashers jumping on people andalso everything said comes in here and people think its true...Think about it...do you really believe some other GURU has a 747 on the Tarmac Idling?

[Javabean] If the rate is 22 and the gov gets 5 and banks get 2, then will we still have to pay taxes or will the gov's % be enough for them??

[generals64] javabean...i have heard so many reports on taxes...it cost $2,500.00 to gt a written ruling from the IRS on this...My personal Tax attorney is $850.00 an hour (he's good) and I don't want to spend the money yet

[LINDI] Is it possible that the Bush family is holding this back?
[generals64] no on the Bushes holding it back...

[Lojack6T] Isnt it possible its just being held up for maximum impact to benefit Iraq during the arab summit and the rest is just a conspiracy theory?
[generals64] Lojack6T;...I think we could see it quickly...I will never give a date or rate...but today so much Smoke was pumped out and everyone fell for it...EVEN I did...

[texanone67] question...does this mean no toaster?
[generals64] I am going to have more toasters tahn Wal-Mart

[Shabibi] How much of all this might just be a bunch of BS and smoke? Not really sure what started this rant and speaking of the truth but I like it!
[generals64] Shabiibi;..ther is NO BS in what I tell you or anyone else...You ahve come at me hard more than once and that is why I don't answer your foolish and mundane questions...By the way Thursday is my favorite day...Why because I met my wife on a Thursdy.Now Dude,...What have you got?...if nothing then sit back and joiin the team or leave the site...
[generals64] Shabibi :..i'm sorry..I am so upset over what has happened and what is being said to the people of this ivestment and please accept myy apology...i was out of line

[righteouswrath] Generals 64... Tex said that you were going to wear a speedo and Roscoe was wearing sunglasses to the barbeque... is that true?
[generals64] Precious :...if that will bring the RV fastr I'll do it..it ain't going to be pretty

[joyjoyjoyjoy] General Thank you for your caring spirit!! Wish you'd tell who betrayed you so we can get 'em for ya! Honestly I would like to know so I don't take stock in what they're saying if posted. Thx for all you share!! You're one of the good guys in my book.
[generals64] My phones are blowing up....I have taken my Blood pressure medicvine and Roscoe is sleeping right now....You guys ask who betrayed you....They know who they are as they are in the room right now....Aren't you dude/

[generals64] I was to have gone to Dallas and cash out cause I too am an Oklahoma SOONERFAN...but he today won't return my calls....Did you know Blaino and Hammerman were banned from other sites?...did you know Blaino Bragged about hacking Okies name...Did you know he laughed about hacking Foghorn's name...hmmm...I have a short call give me a second...hopefully it will answer some stuff...hold on

[generals64] and hey guys/Gals lojack6T is NOT lojak...He is a friend of the family.

[Shabibi] So of all the other "gurus" who share info who would you trust most and who the least to give us a bearing on how to look at their info
[generals64] shabibi:...I owe you this one....Gurus?hmmmm Hmmmm BWM/Tex/Cap1....Studley..Wileymorgan...(really)....Freeway Bill...and SteveI
[generals64] Shabibi:...Dan and Tony seem to be trying real hard now...i don't believe in conspiiracy theorys from anyone and hard to reacll is a good...good friend of mine...

[whitfi10] Was there a call earlier? Generals64 do you host calls? Just wondering if calls really accomish anything?
[generals64] whitfi10 :...calls don't do anything but add fodder to the fire...No one has been 100% right yet....

[generals64] Folks....the Thing that bothers me a lot is the is no one or any law that requires my two gitrls to do anything for anyone...


[generals64] real good call...
[generals64] Precious ;...could be even beter
[generals64] arabic is bad for me
[generals64] still on

[generals64] OK...Wiley morgan has some dude from Iraq who is so dang excited aboaut something neither one of us can understand him...He is trying to get a translator and will let me know if he does....Wiley did two or three tours over there remember that....

[generals64] Guys/Gals;;;;;Please fogive my antics...Drama is not much of my life and I apologize only to this room as this seems to be family...Some one just told me something I had told him and it hit me right between the eyes...."We can save em all and we can help only those that will let us..."...I hope you are one of them as my heart goes to all of you even the Jerk that used me....But, i want to apologize for my actions as they were uncalled for but, from now on you guys get it all up front...

[generals64] I thought I had more class and integrity than I showed tonight....

[FIREPROOF] generals64 we thank you... but be prepared for the rats to take it to recaps.... it will eventually end up there.
[generals64] FIREPROOF :..it will cause so much dissention...they can find me...I know where they are.

[generals64] the bank deal we have is a good one...Good enough johnny asked if he could be on it....HmmmmmmmOur bankers talk to us anytime we need tpo..

[Austin-Powers-For-PM] generals64 So if I understand you correctly, your CBI contact is saying to forget about an RV anytime soon. Correct?
[generals64] Austin-Powers-For-PM :...I don't have a contact at the CBI...We called them on the phone and one day it was ready the next day..no no...so who knows????

[generals64] if you guys get a chance...and he'll talk....live4the brand knows a lot also

[generals64] you guys...Betrayal and just from not verifying it cost me my sanity for a few minutes...maybe hours...i need a beer.

[Shabibi] generals64 Sanity is over rated..beer is rated MUCH higher!
[generals64] Shabibi :...yep...

[Mauiboy] generals64: Only one??? LOL!!!
[generals64] Mauiboy :I don't drink

[eleanor] generals64 btw what brand of beer do you drink?
[generals64] eleanor :...that is Kidney stone medicine but it is Bud Light

[generals64] If you can stop the site I'll explain what we have been doing on the banking situation...it's really very simple

[generals64] the banks want all your money...All...they really just want you and i to get a reasonable amount and they get the rest...Studley adn 4th time are working with Wells Fargo...Wells Fargo wants the numbers we have so, they seemed to desire to give us all they legally can...so what the names and such was for was to give the bank so they could logistically put things together and service us the best way possible...for instance No WF in Oklahoma....I was offered a free airplane ticket to a de larue machine...No, I'll go to Texas>...Studley and his business partner are and have been working on this for some time...they are financial people...me, I'm a dime Store Manager.....

[generals64] What should happen is (hypothetical only )...say it happened tonight...if you went to the bank right now you would get the tellers rate and a thank you very much....But, We have this so close to being finished...girls are real good and so is 4th time and OKCBulldog and .live 4the brand....that we can push our button and send them names etc.,,,they can in turn issue a code that you as a MIG Dinar Holder can go to the Private Wealth person and tell them what you waNT And who you are...they will recognize the code number and your name...If you give the code to your cousin Billy Bob and he is not on the list he will be sent over to the teller and get the teller rate....Now, the beter rate is within their Private banker division...there is a certain dollar (USD) value that you must deposit...probably everyone in here is qualified...Even Roscoe is....then they do the paperwork which you probably haven't done and send you to the teller with your code and an appointment to discuss your wealth management...

[generals64] Make the appointment folks and go to it....if you think you are smarter than these people in finances your probably wrong....they are licesenced adn avialbe...there are programs taht you can get involved with like the rich boys are and let your money work for you...so that you don't have to work for money...does that make sense???and, it's that simple...but, without your name and the code number you'll not get the extra...nothing big and EVERYONE should be treated the same..don't you think????and, me and my group of kids are not making anything on it period...but i sure would like a new toaster....ask the other sites to tell you what they have in store...Oh yeah the other banks will follow suit...they want your money ...study Fractional Banking and you'll see.

[generals64] Fractional banking...????? Google it...get a case of beer and start reading..you'll still not understand it but you'll have fun trying...

[wisegrysqrl1] generals64 when you say our name do you mean our screen name or our real name?
[generals64] wisegrysqrl1 ;...they won't take your screen name on a deposit slip...Promise you that...

[joyjoyjoyjoy] generals64 Are you saying we'll get the same rates Studley is working on? Are bank packages the same thing as group cash-ins? Still unclear on that. thx!
[generals64] joyjoyjoyjoy :...Studley is doing the stuff for us....I talk with him e

[king] Generals64 do u believe a14. Rate could exist IYO ?????????????????????
[generals64] king yes

[Florida] Shabibi Yup. But I thought fractional banking was going away with the new Basel III... anybody know?
[generals64] Florida Fracational Banking is a way of life....the banks are able to sell their deposits nightly with it...your money never stops being used...24 hours a day and 365 days a year

[generals64] I promise not to blow up like that agin folks...not my style....even embrssed to myself right now...When you get over 150 calls aday and about 35 of them daily are smart aleck pranks...your tension is developed

[wisegrysqrl1] generals64 were you saying no Rv anytime soon earlier?
[generals64] wisegrysqrl1 :...ask me that tomorrow night
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[size=16][generals64] If you guys will do what I made texanone67 do you'll be a little less stressed.....take the dustiest book in your house (The Bible to some of you) and read and live John 19:20....you'll thank me many times as she has....Promise from the bottom and depth of my heart....I had a guy tell me to listen and find the darkest part of your heart and liten to what God says at that point.....I did, and I have....this same guy was a convicted Morderer and doing life....and from nowhere paroled...He died of cance a while bak...miss him a lot...[/size]
by RamblerNash
on Sun Apr 03, 2016 5:38 pm
 
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Bruce D Call Notes 3/31/16

Highlights from The Big Call Thursday Night 3-31-16: Guests are Sue, Yosef and Robert.

Transcription by Artneto, Mangelo, Visionary1  and others

Bruce: No more delays! We've had enough delays! I think...the delays are over! We hope they are over. I sure think they're over. We have a great call for you tonight. What I said earlier was that I hoped we'd be able to have our celebration call - that can still only fully happen if this goes down during the call tonight, which it could. We are on alert for the possibility of things happening.   Bruce Call: Intel pending...

Bruce - this still could be a celebration call.   what needs to be in place to back our currency is in place.   we are in the last moments.   it is ready to POP!

Bruce: Announcement by Sec of Treasury...Evidence of new currency coming out...  Have heard it is out in different areas of the country..
....


Yosef - Process to gold back currency GCR. On April 22, 2016 will be complete. Many things had to be checked off list.

There are 4 elements to bringing GCR

#1 - Banking/corruption/technology/new currency

#2 - getting all countries to agree

#3 - Military around the world to make exchanges safe and to settle private wars by those who want to stop GCR

#4 - government corruption

Every 6 hours something has been checked off that list to accomplish the RV/GCR.  We are close, about an inch away. we have accomplished alot.  take a step back and look at how far we have come. We are fortunate to be here. Many have died along the way. Many have suffered tremendous loss along the way - reputations tarnished, families / church leaders / best friends.  We are ready to walk across the bridge to our Blessing.

 Yosef - 2004 dinar was over $3 but because of Desert storm it was made worthless. Dr. Shabibi was trying over 12 years to get gold/oil back and back on international level
Yosef - now money can come back to Iraq and return to Iraq. However, process is that all countries must approve Iraq on international level in order to allow us to trade at new rate, which will return the money to Iraq

Bruce rates over $4 in Iraq as of today

Yosef rates will be higher in some countries who helped bring about Iraqi freedom

Question - Budget rate in Iraq was $4.58 as of today. How does that relate to us going into the banks. Bruce says it does not. Our trigger is different

Robert - our trigger point is what? - what are we waiting on? - a systematic release of that 4 point checklist that we spoke of earlier. There is NO DELAY. We are at the finale
Robert - the amount of coordination of those 4 things to happen in order to allow the RV was a tremendous undertaking

Question - is it true that sanctions against Iraq have been lifted? If so, can tellers see new rates? Robert - yes, yes

Bruce we just need to be notified and release 800 numbers

Question - when I exchange can I get 4 cashier's checks and cash Bruce - yes. Cash threshold is over $5K

Q - how can call center handle volume of calls coming in? bruce - some calls will be forwarded. They are prepared for the volume

IS IT TRUE IRAQ SANCTIONS HAVE BEEN LIFTED? a: YES

IT IS LIKE THE AIRPLANE WITH SEATING - AND THERE ARE ALREADY PEOPLE ON THE PLANE - WE ARE LIKE THE BACK OF THE PLANE TO BE SEATED

CALL CENTERS EQUIPPED FOR VOLUME AND # OF OPERATORS TAKE CALLS AND FORWARD TO OTHER OPERATORS - WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE A LARGE VOLUME OF CALLERS - DOESN'T KNOW HOW MANY CALL CENTERS THERE ARE NOW BUT THINK THEY CAN ROUTE THEM EFFECTIVELY.

STAGGER EXCHANGE APPTS. - YOU MIGHT CALL IN AT 3:00 A.M. AND DEPENDING ON AMT. OF CURRENCY THEY ARE GOING TO PUT YOU ON A TIME AND LOCATION THAT CAN HANDLE IT

Question - I have great connections and none of my people say they have spendable funds. Can you clarify? - Bruce and Yosef said they know people with spendable funds at exchange or who had SKR's that were made liquid

DO YOU KNOW OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR FUNDS AFTER EXCHANGING - ANSWER: YES. IT HAS HAPPENED MORE RECENTLY THAT PEOPLE HAVE FUNDS NOT SKRS AND SOME WITH SKR'S ARE BEING MADE LIQUID.

Question - Difference between Cap and structured pay out? Cap = only get so much dollar value in exchange. There is no cap. Structure payout = protect sudden wealth. Average person does not have training to handle such a huge principle and it will hurt them. Allows you to adjust to the wealth

DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CAP AND STRUCTURED PAY OUT. CAP IS ONLY SO MUCH - CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS USE TO USE THIS TERM - THERE IS NO CAP. STRUCTURED PAY OUT IS DIFFERENT - YOSEF SAYS FOR YOUR BENEFIT NOT TO WITHHOLD FUND FROM YOU. MECHANISM TO PROTECT YOUR WEALTH FROM HAVING TO MUCH PRINCIPLE TO QUICKLY. SOME MAY BE VERSED BUT MOST DO NOT HAD THIS TRAINING AND CONFIDENCE –

Yosef - Zim is main problem for banks because rates are so huge in relation to face value. People do not know what they are getting into! Banks are trying to protect people from themselves!

Question - if take international rate on Zim, must we take structured payout regardless of amount? - Yosef - no on smaller bills. However, the larger shareholders of Zim - over 500M or maybe 1B require structured payoff. depends on your rate. Even whales, who already have millions/billions and team of people to manage are required to take structured payout

Yosef - banks want to slow us down so that we don't make mistakes

question - how much time and how slow will you go with projects? Robert - I have number, had lawyers create charts of projects from 0-6 months, then 6-12 months, etc. and placed number for each. Very strategic so that it is sustainable.

Yosef - give to God first! How much money do you need for the rest of your life, per year. give that to wealth manager to earn interest for the rest of your life, based upon that plan/amount needed to live on per year, for rest of life

Robert - separate trusts for each - personal, charity, investments, etc.

question - have two zim notes that have been soiled, or have serial numbers on sled, (sorry, could not understand) should I still take them in? Yosef - YES, Chinese elders want you to prosper, so will probably take them

Question - where to go to buy more currencies online. - Bruce - currency from sterling are good and exchangeable. Cannot tell you where to buy more. Google dealers or go on Ebay. But most dealers have shut down

question - i bought many 100T zim. At exchange I will have over 200 Billion. Is Wells Fargo only place to exchange? Is there a cap. Robert - no cap, but yes structured payout

question - put dinar and dong in separate accounts? Bruce - long ago was told that dinar would be tracked by IMF differently from other currencies, but that may have changed.

Robert - don't need separate accounts for different currencies because technology is better today and easier to track and trace currency

question - banks still report $10K withdrawal or deposits of cash. Is this still in place? Bruce - that rule was made to track drug dealers. Mainly for customers who do not ordinarily withdraw or deposit $10K. Robert thinks those minimums will go up when the new system is implemented.

question - Dr. Clarke said this will not happen until late April, or early June. Is he a plant, or real? If you and Ray Ren said that people have already exchanged, so how can you all be correct?

Bruce - will not comment on Ray or Dr.C, but I will comment on whether we are weeks away. Robert - we are WITHIN HOURS!! That's the intel that he has received

question - WF website said no plans to exchange dinar. I called and spoke with someone at WF who said its a scam and be careful. Robert - they want us to believe it was a scam. When Kuait revalued, there were lines out the bank because employees quit. The banks will not admit it until there are no more lies to tell

question - dong and zim in first basket - Bruce - Yes. and banks will offer you a trust. Robert - before you leave bank, make sure all currency is in a trust but you do not know what will happen when you leave. A HOLDING TRUST to keep funds protected. then get cap, trust attorney to modify

Robert - exchange took 45 minutes for one of the whales to set up structured payout. Don't be afraid of it . It is a good thing for us. It protects us

question - guru said dinar exchanging over $4 in Iraq. where is proof? I don't see it on Forex

- Bruce - will not show up on forex until later on. Proof is that Iraq citizens can use their cards in USA and that was rate of exchange

Question - who is holding it up? Bruce - there are some security issues they are working out, but the process is moving and we are almost done. Yosef - if you are struggling with your faith if you are still asking that question. We are on the other side believing in faith that it will happen.

Robert: as of this morning 84% of the prosperity packages have been delivered to the donors (i.e to the people who will give the funds to the recipients)

question - Whales/elite groups are receiving preferential treatment being allowed to exchange early. bruce - some don't believe that's fair, but that's the way it is. God is just so look at it that way.

Bruce - don't know details of structured payout, but just some parameters. Yosef - go into bank as a partner with bank. Tell them what you want to accomplish and bank will help you get there. Don't approach it as a fight with bank.

question - discuss bank perks before exchanging, or wait for wealth manager? Bruce - we will pay 2% fee we will not see it - perks are a bonus based upon amount of money you leave with the bank. Mostly wealth manager will handle specific needs

question - Can i get $1 on zim without NDA? Bruce - screen rates are higher than $1. No NDA if on screen

The big call Bruce replay is 605-562-3198 Pin #123456
by Ssmith
on Fri Apr 01, 2016 12:20 am
 
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Mountain Goat 3/22/16

Hello Everyone,
 
There was a ton of news after I published Friday’s news letter. WOW! It came at us like a running bull once the protestors took to the streets again and crossed over into the green zone. This scared many of these politicians and so finally we began to see some real action towards movement of the Abadi reforms for his cabinet reshuffle. I explain all this today to you.
 
So what should be taken from today’s news?
 
Well we should realize what is now holding up the RV.
 
We should see that the political process in Iraq is very slow.
 
We should understand who the culprits are in slowing down the process.


But remember that by getting more technocratic” ministers this is only the beginning. The only hope is that they too can perform and can get the job done without the level of corruption we have seen by their predecessors.
 
If I could predict the future, this is how I see it playing out (not necessarily in this exact order):


  • The needed new ministers get ratified in parliament this week or next.
  • Amnesty and Judicial Reforms get passed very soon afterwards
  • Abadi does not leave the Dowa party, for if he does he must first resign his position as prime minister and they hold reelections. This they do not want to do. So we can see the necessity for him to leave the Dowa party but you also see the ramifications of doing so. So he will not leave, but instead change the party (and even call it something else altogether) and find a way to get rid of the dead weight bringing down the political process and needed overall changes that they party now does not embrace.
  • Abadi and Sadr then crank up the case and pressure to a new level to clean out the rubbish of the Iranian politicians (Maliki and his goons) and bring them all to justice through the judicial system. Again they will use the pressure and power from the average citizen to drive it
  • The Federation Council is announced as a forth body of government
  • The office of the president gets back 1 deputy as VP. I will leave it to you who to guess who gets this position. I’ll give you a hint – his last name begins with a “H” .
  • The Parties law is passed and enacted
  • Many of the corrupt politicians simply escape from arrest warrants and leave Iraq. There passports evoked and extradition is requested. 
  • Meantime Mosul is cleansed of ISIS and reconstruction begins while all this is going on.
  • Price of oil begins to rise due to production limits agreed to by OPEC and GCC members.  
  • The new Conscription law breaks up any Iranian militias and outlaws the private para-military groups, since these very same members must now serve in the Iraq military. 
  • The National ID cards take hold and everyone in Iraq now has an ID card. They must be able to prove citizenship. This eliminates any Iranians since, if they are detained and can not prove they are Iraqi, they will be exported. 
  • Dr Shabibi is announced as reinstated as head of the CBI once again (he was always officially and is always still heading up the CBI but political scandal forced his out of the seat and placed an illegal proxy governor)  
  • Iraq launched the lower denominations to fight inflation due to rising oil prices
  • Iraq moves to Article 8 as a UN member nation, RV is done 4-7 days later.

 
Am I wishing for the stars? 
Do you see what came last in my list of trends. If you had noticed I did my similar predictions over a year ago. So what happened according to my predictions from then? Just about everything I talked about did happen.
 
Iraq got the majority of the much needed laws (at this point in time of what is needed), we now have a heightened awareness of the crimes committed by Maliki and his goons, the citizens and religious leaders are now driving the pressure for reforms, talk now is that Iranian  influence must end, ISIS is almost under control (their last stronghold is Mosul), IMF is now working closely with the CBI to align the banking systems and financial systems, the financial and political paths have not yet converged, no RV has taken place.
 
YES – I still give my prediction and windows of the greatest opportunity for an RV. Right now I still hold the conviction of mid March to mid April for an RV. I have told you why and showed you the evidence. I can only relate the news given to the possibility of the RV according to what they tell us. Will it happen?
 
Events change and the process can speed up or slow down. We wait and see. If not then I move on to the next possible foreseeable future window as the news rolls in and we can paint another picture of the future. 
 
As I said many times the RV is a by-product of the process, the end result and not the main driving force. It will simply happen when the conditions are right. Want to know when the RV will happen? Then study the conditions in Iraq that will make it happen. It is that simple. Like in the Starkist Tuna commercials-  Sorry Charlie… no RV this week !

Today’s News
 
Today is Monday March 21st   2016. Still no RV.  Sorry Charlie!  

 
Update: Iraqi Economy
 
It was reported last week that, since the start of the new year, Iraq's have collected $350 million in customs and tariff fees after new methods and mechanisms of their own including those related to the application of the new customs and tariffs.
 
As I have said the customs and tariff fees alone could rival the oil revenues once fully implemented. WOW! But this collection now is without being tied to the electronic system. I have talked to you many times already about this system and how it uses the global currency exchanges to determine the rates of exchange to convert the fees to a payable amounts quickly and efficiently. Just recently again they told us they really need to tie into this system since the long lines and traffic at the boarders needs to be eliminated and is causing havoc. How can they link into the system without a global currency rate for the dinar ? We know the IMF requires consistent rates for the dinar to 2% margins or less. Leaving the manual method of exchange only breeds the possibility of yet more corruption, as you will soon see if they do not switch over to the electronic system soon. This could mean the loss of yet billions more.
 
Next we see Iraq finally beginning the extraction and capping of natural gas from their refineries, as they said was an objective many years ago in the news to us. Under the new sustainability environmental  UN mandates meeting these new environmental laws and is also beneficial financially to Iraq as this gas could bring in billions of revenue.
 
So what is this capping process?
Instead of being burned off (the flames you see in pictures on the oil rigs) and wasted, the gas can be captured and stored in the process of extraction of the oil. It can now be sold as natural gas. This process has been done in the west for many years already. 
 
But how do you do this safely and efficiently?
This is a new science and they now have a method to do it. It is being applied now too to the Iraq oil rigs.
 
There is also the pollution abatement aspects to the environment in the process. It is a win-win situation for everyone. Remember the UN sustainability goals for the middle east? This is all yet more of the big picture for the future of this region. It is all good! See article below.
 
Article Begins
 
IRAQ STARTS EXPORTING THE FIRST SHIPMENT OF LIQUID GAS
 

Iraq begins Sunday export the first shipment of liquefied gas through the southern ports, according to the announcement "Radio Sawa" a spokesman for Iraqi ports Directorate Tigers net.
 
Safi said that the Directorate will hold a celebration of export shipment of liquid gas to be transported on board a Panamanian tanker, without specifying its destination.
 
He added that this move reflects the evolution of the capabilities of the Iraqi ports in the export of oil derivatives:
 

Article Ends
 
Next I am bringing you the update on the forming of the technocratic government. First we must understand what is going on here to fully get the crust of these articles I present to you today. You do want to understand don’t you? Or do you just want a date and a rate? NO Hype, NO Rumors, JUST the FACTS..

We all know why Abadi is doing this reform effort and this is not a surprise to the other Iraqi politicians since he said when he first established his cabinet in 2014 that he would evaluate his cabinet’s performance after a year of service and then clean house if they did not do their jobs.
 
So this part of the entire reform process did not just come out of the woodwork, but instead was a well planned event. The problem is in the implementation, since in doing so, the plan calls for converting to hiring experienced people to do the job versus just filling the quotas for these positions.
 
As you know quotas are by tribe (Sunni, Shi’ite or Kurd). Of course the parties involved are resisting and this is causing delays since they do not want to give up their quotas of people (experienced and capable of doing the job or not). So Abadi has told them either give me more experienced nominees to fill the quotas or I will fill them with experienced personnel regardless of quota and so I may put a Sunni in a Shi’ite slot or a Shi’ite in a Sunni slot. (Kurdistan in the meantime has submitted their candidates and as we heard demanded they retain their quota and will cooperate fully to do so). We read articles about the Kurdistan meetings with Abadi on this subject in the recent weeks.
 
So let the fighting begin! Like everything else they do politically, there must first be first a long a fight and this causes long delays in implementation. But finally we will see a more technocratic government and Abadi will get his needed reforms. Only we don’t care to see these fights and delays and we want the RV now! But we will not get the RV until this is all resolved. Don’t worry too much however since ISIS must also be cleared from Mosul too and this even seems to be progressing along the same timelines as the needed Abadi reforms. I call this multi-tasking in a grand scale….lol…lol..
 
We must also see a drastic reduction in Iranian militias and Iranian political influence on a whole (whatever this means must be done) prior to any RV. I have told everyone this many times.
 
This is not Mnt Goat’s opinion, guessing or conjecture but FACTUAL mandates from the UN, USA and GB. So believe what you want from these other so called intel “gurus” about their every day/any day RV info and hype but this will not make the RV happen any faster. So if you really want the truth then open you minds, eyes and see the truth, since it is all there in black and white for you to read in the articles. Just the articles may be days or even sometimes weeks late but this does not make them any less factual. Even because there are sometimes a few propaganda articles, misinterpreted too by the translator engines used, does not discredit all the good and honest news brought forward out of Iraq either. Besides you should by now be able to see these bad articles and just ignore them. Can you? If you can’t by now do this then you are not really concerned about finding the truth and only want to find yet more excuses to discredit the truth and get you your everyday bandwagon again for hype.
 
I am trying to make it easier for everyone to see and understand by publishing my news letters sometimes 3 times a week. You can chose to bash me if you want but this does not and will not change the news or bring the RV on YOUR schedule. Sorry charlie!   
 
Back to today’s news.
 
So by the many articles below I tried to sequence them in some order that makes sense so you can readily see the progression of this political nonsense that is going on in resisting Abadi’s much needed reforms. Seems they “must go through it to get to it”….lol…lol…but we all know the final outcome already.
 
The first article #1 is telling us that Sadre gave Abadi until Friday to finish the cabinet reshuffle or he would send 100,000 protestors into the streets again, like he did last week. This time they would move yet closer to the green zone. We even witnessed on the news that they did in fact cross over the bridge and into the green zone this time (a warning of things to come from Sadre. The protestors so far have been peaceful and have not used violence. See article #1.
 
So what came out of Friday’s protests.
We see the protestors are staying and sleeping out in tents  this time as a show that they are not going away – a sign that they are NOT going away and will remain a threat until the demands are completed. This creates enormous pressure on the government.
 
Then we witnessed reports from the airport that over 220 politicians and families fled the green zone over the weekend in fear that the protests could go violent and also they would come as a lynching mob for them next. See article #6 and #7. Many who fled are corrupt and should flee too since they are on the list of those for citizen arrests if the judicial does nothing to punish these corrupt officials. We know of the top three on their list too since they told us last week and I presented this article to you then.
 
Then we see an announcement that Abadi will go forward and submit to parliament the names of candidates that were submitted to him already. See article #2 and #3 below. They told us the cabinet reshuffle will be partial and the committee of experts in need of some more time. This action was due to the pressure. Remember it is parliament that must pick and ratify the new candidate for the cabinet positions.
 
Okay in the midst of all this confusion then out steps president Masum to help out in the situation.
 
I quote from Article #4 below -  “An emergency meeting of the three presidencies with the leaders of the   blocs and political parties at the invitation of President Fuad Masum, Saturday afternoon, in the Peace Palace in Baghdad”. So we see that Sadr gave Abadi a 10 day extension, meaning 10 days from last Sunday 3/20 to 3/30 (or end of March). Will they then go after the corrupt officials in the green zone holding back progress? Or will Abadi complete the reshuffle with the help and support from all the parties? 
 
So then out pops Mulla with statements to explain the situation yet even more to the people. Remember these articles are not for us in the western world but for the average Iraqi citizen to keep them informed.
 
See article #5 below. He is telling us primarily that the only way to expose the corrupt is for Abadi to leave the Dawa party since he has too many close ties to the party to force the action needed for these reform changes. We all know very well want Mulla is talking about don’t we? It is these three main political figures the protestors demand justice for mostly. 
 
I quote from the article – “Mulla said L / balance News / "Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi it not possible to reveal the corrupt in the case was able to leave first the Dawa party and the time for government action."
 
So what resulted from this emergency meeting that was held?

I quote from Article #8 below – “ MP for the Liberal block on Hoalah, Sunday, that the ministers of the bloc told the Prime Minister Haider al -Abadi they will put their resignations at the disposal of the cleric Moqtada al - Sadr political body for the Liberal bloc, stressing the insistence of the mass on its position on the goal of forming a technocratic government composed of ministers " are not subject to the parties
 
I quote from article #9 below – “It revealed a member of a coalition of state law that fall under the National Alliance Ibtisam al-Hilali, Sunday, to provide the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi reforms ministerial end of this week.”
 
So we finally see the stubborn coalition of state law (Maliki’s party) agreeing to submitting their candidates this week.
 
Then we see article #10 telling us that on this Thursday 3/24 they plan to vote on the ministerial changes in parliament (ratify the new members). Will it happen or will they postpone the vote, as they usually do? This may occur since the names of the candidates where not yet presented and ONLY agreed to present them in time for Thursday’s session. Since we know they never do anything on time what can we expect then on Thursday? Let’s see how it all plays out.
 
WOW! It seems like a lot to get to the final outcome didn’t it?  However I wanted to show you in articles and absolute proof (FACTS) of how they work in Iraq and why it is taking so long to do anything. This is the main reason why it is March of 2016 already yet the government still is not fully formed as needed to meet mandates by the UN and USA for a “full” and “functional” government.
 
The mandate is this - no “full” and “functional” government then no article 8 since they will not turn over all this money to a radical terrorists government. Note - they almost did it in 2012 but Maliki stopped it to spite Dr Shabibi but in the long run we see he actually cut his nose off to spite his face and helped the IMF and the USA to see that there was still much political progress to be made before unleashing article 8. So lesson learned and they will not go down this same road again. Do you get why it is taking so long now? I keep trying to help everyone understand.
 
NO – the UN and the USA will not be fooled again by proxy ministers and a government susceptible to corruption and Iranian influence. It must be clean this time even if it takes years or more to do it!

Update: 45 Day Deadline for Technocratic Gov’t
 
Article #1 Begins
 
FIRST SITTERS SPEND THE NIGHT IN FRONT OF THE GREEN ZONE GATES (MARCH 19TH) 
 
Spent sitters first night in front of the Green Zone gates, and spotted a camera / balances News / dozens of them and they are lying after a long day describe as "Juma biting fingers" to begin the countdown to ten days will witness the "Battle of bone-breaking" until a cabinet reshuffle and reforms demanded by the street and support the cleric Moqtada al-Sadr.
 
Hundreds of people gathered in a large marquee in small tents they Althvon blankets ready and others Avcrashwa sidewalks in exchange for small tents.
 
Reporter / balances News / as monitoring the presence Mkh_khash tent for the treatment of exposed to fatigue among the protesters and was equipped with the required medicines and medical supplies in case of emergency.
A source in the sit-ins of the Commission stressed that the protesters were divided into meals and participate in 2000 Moatasem front gate of the cabinet only, one of the entrances to the Green Zone.
 
The source told / balances News / "The protesters against the rest of the Green Zone gates will be coordination and determine their numbers and divided into meals," pointing out that "will be determined by the preparation of the protesters in front of the other gates also to keep organizing sit-ins."
 
And spotted tents of protestors from the civil power and gathered dozens of activists.
The protesters began to erect platforms sit in front of the gates of the Green Zone, a few minutes from the security forces allow them to cross the bridge of the Republic.
 
Organizing Committee of demonstrations and sit-ins of the Sadrist movement called, on Friday, all the protesters who do not have business cards registered by it (Lepage) to withdraw from the sit-in yards.
The head of the martyr Sadr's office in Baghdad, Ibrahim al-Jabri formation of a special committee to negotiate with the government in the event that the last wish.
 
Regulatory committee supervising and called on the sit-ins Msaoualjmah, to adhere to the unified slogans involving demands for reform and full cooperation with the security services and allowing them to exercise their functions, and charged the protesters to "wear uniforms by the Organizing Committee, which carries the slogan Iraqi flag."
 
The cleric Moqtada al - Sadr called on citizens to exercise their lives and not feel scared, and called for opening closed in the capital , Baghdad , roads, and said that " the prospects for change began and began nebula Balanakecaa , " stressing not to allow any armed spread outside the security forces framework .
 
In the past, to say "do not close the roads and closed shops nor the other", he stressed on the necessity of the continuation of "all work so that public interests do not stop."
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ABADI, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE: CABINET RESHUFFLE WILL BE PARTIAL AND THE COMMITTEE OF EXPERTS IN NEED OF SOME TIME          
 
Long Press  03/19/2016      
 
It entered the ministerial changes, which called for the conduct of the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi recently, in a dark tunnel after the political blocs to refrain from answering Abadi messages to submit their nominations.
 
And ended last Wednesday, the deadline given by the Prime Minister of the blocks to submit their candidates, without political parties show a clear interaction with the project Minister for "substantially modified".
     
Paralysis of the Committee of Experts tasked with assessing the candidates of the blocks for the new government to pay Abadi to retreat from the idea of ​​a "fundamental change", and Aljaw E to a partial change in the light of the understandings now conducted with the parties to the National Alliance.



And it demanded political and religious views recently to dissolve the government and parliament and hold early elections. But it will take months of logistical arrangements and the allocation of funds may not be available in light of the financial crisis experienced by the country.
     
The Abadi had announced on March 9 this, that the cabinet reshuffle will be substantial and will be soon, and when he called to offer ministers professionals names and qualified to fill ministerial portfolios, he stressed that the change will be on in accordance with the constitutional framework and political partnership between the components of the people.
     
He says Mahdi Keywords, head of the Office of the Prime Minister in a special statement to (range) that "presumably on the Committee of Experts, set up by Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, a study biographies made to it by the political blocs or independents to form a government of technocrats."
     
He added: "It this requires some time and linked to the question of the end of the blocs to submit their nominations to the Prime Minister," pointing out that "the prime minister said earlier that the upcoming ministerial changes will be substantial and faculty."
     
In light of the wide reservations made by parties to the National Alliance on the reshuffle, director of the Office of the Prime Minister is expected to "be a part of change," but he stresses that "it remains to be up to the Prime Minister."
     
In the meantime, he called Virtue Party Reference Guide Mohammed al-Yacoubi, on Saturday, to hold early elections after the formation of a genuine independent Elections Commission, as called for amending the election law a way that preserves the will of the voters.
     
The MP commented on the mass of the beauty of virtue Muhammadawi emphasizing that "the problem in Iraq is the biggest change within the government and the Minister of cabins after repair You took a long time and did not reflect positively on the management put the country in general."
     
He Muhammadawi, told the (Long Press), "The document presented by al-Abadi to the political blocs were not clear," he said. "All parties demanded an explanation from the head of government in order to move the process of ministerial changes."  He pointed out that "the books of the prime minister's office and sent to the blocks did not explain the ministries to be changed."
     
He Virtue Bloc member, said "all political blocs declined to submit their nominations to the President of the government because of the lack of visibility of the prime minister of political views," noting that "the National Alliance forces have not conducted any meeting to discuss amendments to the ministerial meeting after Karbala."
     
But the former official of the election commission draws out that early elections "requires logistical preparations by the Commission for a period of up to four months in order to prepare the voters' register."
     
Adel al-Lami, told the (Long Press), "it is difficult to predict the financial Elv specifically to any electoral process because the legislative elections cost differs from the provincial elections, but the cost of the parliamentary elections does not exceed $ 150 million."

 
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KEYWORDS: GOVERNMENT IMPLEMENTATION OF A BYGONE CLOSE REFORMS
 
19/03/2016 16:17 pm (Baghdad time)
 
BAGHDAD - balances News
Director of the Office of the Prime Minister Mahdi Keywords, said Saturday that the government continues to make reforms based on the document launched by Abadi, a few days ago.
 
He explained Keywords during a seminar held by the progress of policy development institute and attended / balances News / "The government continues to implement its reforms, according to the document launched by the Prime Minister recently," he said, adding that "the document identified the criteria and mechanisms for repairing the ministerial change required."  
 
He added that "there is a problem in the follow-up process by government institutions," adding "to ensure that there is harmony between theory and application."
 
He Keywords to "put points for examination Alkmarki in the northern and southern provinces," revealing "a clear increase in customs revenue."
 
It is said that the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has launched a comprehensive reform document and presented to the Alssayash.
 

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URGENT: "ORBIT NEWS" PUBLISHED THE TEXT OF THE STATEMENT OF THE THREE PRESIDENCIES MEETING WITH LEADERS OF POLITICAL BLOCS      

An emergency meeting of the three presidencies with the leaders of blocs and political parties at the invitation of President Fuad Masum, Saturday afternoon, in the Peace Palace in Baghdad.
 
According to a presidential statement received 'orbit News' copy of it, that in the beginning of the meeting alive attendees victory of our heroine in Anbar and Mosul and cutouts other and expressed their emphasis on stand strong will and Dolly citizens in Taza who faced brutal crimes committed by terrorists, was also emphasized the need to maintain the security of the capital Baghdad and limiting arms possession security forces.
 
He added that the meeting focused on the political and administrative reform and the fight against corruption and the ministerial amendment issues and to express their respect for the popular will as represented by demonstrations and sit - ins in the country since July last year and is still ongoing.

He pointed to the 'formation of a committee represented by all political factions and representatives of the three presidencies that would follow up the implementation of the reform measures and alterations cabinet in a week to help the prime minister in a cabinet reshuffle urgently and activate the work of the Supreme Council for the fight against corruption and speed up the resolution of independent bodies Files'.

The statement continued , was also at the meeting approve the formation of a committee of the two communities and their representatives to liaise with leaders of the parties to the national demonstrations to understand the demands and express them in practice in the Commission 's work in coordination with the government and the House of Representatives.
He pointed out that he was stressed at the meeting on the need for the work of the House of Representatives on the completion of stalled and delayed legislation and laws so as to help in the promotion and Ayijiba pace of reform.

Presidential statement pointed out that these measures is an expression of the State 's need real reform, launched by the Prime Minister, which is consistent with the national will , which is being expressed through the demonstrators and protesters patriots who are the basis of the part of the political process and the owners of a genuine interest in Iraq a free , democratic, progressive and safe .

The statement concluded that he was stressed by the presidents and representatives of blocs and parties expressed their support for the legitimate demands and the importance of focusing on accelerating the pace of reform , especially in these circumstances that require everyone to ensure the security and stability and provide area of our armed forces to devote to the performance of national tasks in the fight against Daash and eliminated.
 

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ABADI - MULLAH CALLS TO QUIT AND CALL FOR A FULL-TIME GOVERNMENT ACTION PARTY
 
Political  19/03/2016  
 
Special scales News
Student of the political bureau of the Union of Iraqi forces by Haidar al-Mulla, Saturday, Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi to leave the political work in advocacy and a full-time government action in the Council of Ministers Party.
 
Mulla said L / balance News / "Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi it possible to reveal the corrupt in the case was able to leave the Dawa party and the time for government action."
 
"The Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi dropped a great opportunity towards reform when he got the mandate of the people of Iraq and behind of the political blocs and religious authorities," noting that he "did not invest the opportunity to make real changes."
 
He added that "al-Abadi unable to change the security chiefs in his capacity as Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces, where he does not need to return to any party because we lack the presence of General Command of the Armed Forces."
 
He pointed out that "a change of ministerial cabin concerning the political blocs and the parliament and not the will of the individual to Ebadi."
 
He continued that "the street Flounced not objecting to being on the presence of certain names in the ministerial cabin, but because he did not receive the security services and all the necessities of life."  
 
And between Mullah "Reform has not reduced alter the faces and names as if he changed all ministerial cabin without changing the wrong approach followed by the political process over the past years, the street will rise up and as a result can not bring services into the street and to restore normal life to him."
 
The Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi has announced his determination to implement the decision of the ministerial change is essential for evaluating the work of the state and to combat corruption.

It is said that a sit-in to follow the Sadrist movement began since yesterday in front of the Green Zone gates to demand change and reform and the fight against corruption.
From: Nur al-Din Wahba

 
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INTEGRITY REVEAL THE ESCAPE OF MINISTERS AND AGENTS ARREST WARRANTS ISSUED AGAINST THEM
POLITICAL
 
19/03/2016
 
Special - balances News
Revealed to the Parliamentary Integrity Commission member Adel Nouri, Saturday, for the escape of a number of ministers and deputy ministers out of the country who have been sentenced to judicial orders for their involvement in the corruption of files out of the country.
 
He said Noori's / balances News /, "The information reached the Commission stating the escape of a number of ministers and deputy ministers implicated files of corruption out of the country despite judicial orders for their rights," and accused the government of "not to deal seriously with the files of corruption revealed by the Integrity Commission." .
 
He said a member of the Parliamentary Integrity Commission, that "there is a clear reluctance by the executive bodies in the activation of the arrest warrants."
 
The Integrity Commission announced, earlier, on the transfer of three ministers to justice on charges of graft and inflation Alomwal. Haidar Almitm

 
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GREEN ZONE ALL EMPTY .. 220 OFFICIALS AND PARLIAMENTARIANS LEFT FOR OMAN AND DUBAI AND ISTANBUL
 
Baghdad -arac Press -20 March / March: A source in the Iraqi Airways, on Sunday, to leave more than 220 officials and MPs have crossed three airports during the past two days, coinciding open - ended sit and wave the possibility of breaking into the Green Zone.   
 
An officer in the Iraqi Immigration Department, said that " the majority of bookings on the Iraqi lines and other lines, were to Iraqi officials and their families and those close to them, who went to the Jordanian capital , Amman , and Istanbul , Turkey, as well as reservations to Dubai in the UAE."   according to the source, who declined to be named, the "more than 350 families arrived numbering to about 1,400 people , including women and children, have left Iraq in recent days, all of them relatives of officials and Iraqi lawmakers. "   for his part, a senior official said , in one of the service departments, the green zone where the government headquarters, said that" more than 120 houses and luxury apartment inhabited officials and parliamentarians, have become free inside the green Zone, having abandoned its inhabitants, finally. "   
 
He added, Anwar al- Tamimi, an employee in the green Zone," most of the residential units and recreational areas, prepared for the accommodation of politicians, had been emptied of its residents who left to the capitals outside the country, while representatives left some lawmakers to their provinces and regions clan. "   
 
She spoke , political sources on the state of" panic "hit the Iraqi politicians and parliamentarians, with the escalation of the protests carried out by followers of the Sadrist movement and civilians allied with them in thevicinity of the enhanced regional security, threatened Bagthamha.   the look of the Iraqi capital,
 
BAGHDAD, free of political movement who usually moved within the huge convoys of armored cars, as well as a cooling media activity and confined to statements write them on their pages on networking sites.   Iraqi officials and warns of a "soft coup" carried out , Muqtada al - Sadr, drawing tens Alylav followers .   the limited movement in the green Zone, which isolated the Americans with their occupation of Iraq in 2003, the security elements and some foreign embassies operating in Iraq staff, as quoted sources within the security box accommodation of ruling political elite. on Sunday the US embassy in Baghdad said, it would not intervene in the sit - ins of the Sadrist movement in front of the green Zone as an internal affair ..   the US ambassador to Iraq , Stuart Jonesanh not worried about the security of the embassy inside the green Zone, expressing his belief that "the Iraqi security forces will provide protection for diplomatic missions" .
 

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MINISTERS OF THE LIBERAL BLOC REACH ABADI PUT THEIR RESIGNATIONS AT THE DISPOSAL OF SADR'S POLITICAL BODY
 
Sunday March 20, 2016 - 12:00
 
MP for the Liberal block on Hoalah, Sunday, that the ministers of the bloc told the Prime Minister Haider al -Abadi they put their resignations at the disposal of the cleric Moqtada al - Sadr political body for the Liberal bloc, stressing the insistence of the mass on its position on the goal of forming a technocratic government composed of ministers " are not subject to the parties . " said Hoalah,"
 
The ministers of the Liberal bloc told thePrime Minister Haider al - Abadi during the last meeting of the Council of Ministers, that they put their resignations at the disposal of the cleric Muqtada al - Sadr political body for the Liberal bloc. " he added that" this step comes within the efforts of the Sadrist movement to change government cabin completely. " He stressed Hoalah, that" the mass is still insisting on its position on the formation of a private technocratic government that includes ministers are not subject to the parties, "according to the Sumerian News. 
 
It is worth mentioning that thousands of protesters have, on the first Friday (18 March 2016), erecting tents the protest called by the cleric Moqtada al - Sadr, after performing Friday prayers in front of the green Zone gates in central Baghdad. He called on al- Sadr, on Thursday (17 March 2016), to accelerate the "reforms , " adding that the protest was a "public pressure factor" to reach " comprehensive reform

 
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STATE OF LAW: ABADI, WILL PRESENT HIS REFORMS THIS WEEKEND
 
Political
20/03/2016  
 
Special - balances News
It revealed a member of a coalition of state law that fall under the National Alliance Ibtisam al-Hilali, Sunday, to provide the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi reforms ministerial end of this week.
She said Hilali's / balances News /, that "the blocs agreed with the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi on the implementation of reforms, but there are external proposals crashes activation of these reforms", revealing at the same time that "Abadi will be presented this weekend ministerial reforms."
 
She added, "All the political blocs put their ideas on the Ministerial reform and Abadi said he will choose the most appropriate idea," calling Abadi to "submit a document of reform as soon as possible."
He revealed security expert Fadel Abu loaf L / balance News / Today, that all the political blocs sticking respective ministers and prepare them for "Superman," among that most of the ministries managed brothers and relatives of ministers.
 
And held three presidencies, yesterday, an expanded meeting attended by the heads of political blocs to discuss the new selection to the Government of Altankoaqrat Almertqubh.
From: Haidar Almitm
 

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THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVE TO VOTE ON THE MINISTERIAL CHANGES ON THURSDAY
 
BAGHDAD / .. revealed a coalition of state law, on Sunday that Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi will present ministerial its change s to the House of Representatives on Thursday to vote on them.

The leader of the coalition, Saad logistical's "Eye of Iraq News," that "three presidencies and political blocs agreed yesterday at a meeting to provide Abadi new names of ministers for a vote in Parliament next Thursday," explaining that "the political blocs will help Abadi in the selection of new ministers without to nominate candidates for the prime minister. "

He logistical "The new ministers will be from a competent, professional and not independent but .. will have political leanings but the important thing they're with expertise in their field," and to speed up the selection of ministers before the deadline leader of the Sadrist movement, the end of the green to break into, said that "this is not It has no deadline unrelated chest. "

And held on the evening of Saturday, at the Peace Palace in central Baghdad meeting  of the three presidencies with the leaders of political blocs called for by President Fuad Masum, while face meeting to form a committee to contact the leaders of the demonstrations to follow up on their demands, another committee represented by all the political components and presidencies that would follow up implementation of the reform measures Ministerial amendment called for by Prime Minister Haider al - Abadi in a week.

The Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi deadline granted by the political blocs is over, last Wednesday, without offering any block candidates, the center of the Sunni blocs refused to participate in the next government and the sufficiency role of the opposition and observer, as an impetus to extend the deadline a week 

 
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Update: Fighting ISIS
 
Most importantly please, please, please let’s not forget to keep praying for the success of THESE IRAQI AND COALITION SOLDIERS. I believe our prayers are in part some of the acceleration of the process we are now witnessing.  
 
Remember too to pray to the princess of peace – Our Blessed Virgin Mary. She has the ear of Christ and she can intercede in heaven and bring us the peace we all desire here on earth. We can not do it alone. I believe that if we all make this our daily prayer you will see change. It is already working even in the short time since I have been publishing this prayer section. It does not matter what religion you believe, if you pray then to your oven beliefs entity it is still the same powers and good for all of mankind. Ultimately it is all the same God anyhow.
 
“Lord, protect Abadi and all who stand with him in righteousness, the Iraq and coalition soldiers who are fighting the good fight against terrorism, that they would be shielded from the enemy and would be victorious against them in the battle for Mosul! We ask that the victory comes swiftly and healing of the Iraqi peoples and all whom have been effected by these evil doers can begin!
 
We pray for the process of the currency reform, the full implementation of  the Iraqi economy to full  international status and the bringing of prosperity and wealth to its people“  Amen!
 
Till next time…. Auf Wiedersehen!
 
Peace and Luv To Ya All, 
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by Mountain Goatee
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Wiley Morgan of Gen64 on Skype Chat Friday Night ~ Updated 6/10

TRADE wrote:It all depends on when you got associated with it.  G64 group of people merged into the group and they combined names at the later date. Since he was in the public view that name was associated with the group. What business arrangement with the bank and name, which has zero bearing to the public, does not matter to be public information, especially with the pesky dinar public that likes to call the banks. So just to control all factors and the dinar land situation, of course the details cannot made public referring to what the actual business arrangement is setup



Oh? Exactly when did that all happen?


Here is a post from5/31/2014:

Generals64 and I4U Members Chat Late Friday Night

5/31/2014  


[generals64] you guys realize (I hope) about three or four months ago I was asked not to go on any web site......and I have done as asked

[generals64] Seems there is a wild post out there about some things no one can prove...I promised to be nice so names......From all we understand here is the following:

[generals64] #1. The Gen64 group is still in "locked down" and in great shape.

[generals64] #2. I have not left the scene just stayed quiet like I was asked.

[generals64] #3. Show me anyone who is posting all the about happening right nows that have been right....(NO ONE>>>)

[generals64] #4. That's the main reason we haven't come out and said anything that can't be proven.....
....

[generals64] #5. The e-mails will go out as planned and if you are on the list your email will be very simple you will be given an 800 number to call. The person at the phone will ask for you zip code....they will then give you a time and date to meet with a person that you are to deal with. that's simple

 [generals64] #6. .....Now the public will be told also the one thing we have in our favor is you will be given a designated time and place for your convenince...

 [ModelWoman] generals64 Will the designated place be a bank?

  [generals64] Guys/Gals:...ModelWoman :...yes it will be....if not don't go....Don't give your dinar or VND (no comments) to anyone not qualified to give you a bank deposit slip.

 [ModelWoman] Thank you for making that clear generals64 .

[possum] generals64 TY for all you do. Been a part of your group from the beginning. Is there any provision for aussie members of your group to exchange in Aus?

[generals64] possum :...The bank assured us that they have things set up with a bank in Australia....

 [Believe13] General I have a couple people that want to get in the group is that still possible?

 generals64] Believe13 :...We know that we cut the group registration off. too many wanna bes were trying to hack in on the group. We'll have a way where you can help your friends...this I promise and folks....I have not let my promises go yet.

 [generals64] If you only knew the BS calls I get every night....and then the calls about how come I got kicked out...(didn't happen) so many people want a title. I want one title and that is "Finished".......how about you guys.????

 [alohadinar] generals64 I have beeen a member of the group since the beginning, and have not heard if there will be banks in hawaii to do the exchange?

 [generals64] alohadinar :...that one I know for sure as I told them (the bank) I would go over there and help personally....I'll be danged if they didn't agree to it

 [cool1967] generals64 Is this true that groups will be exchanging before general public?

 [generals64] cool1967 :...I heard that myself...

  [Rider] generals64 Will there be an NDA and background check

  [generals64] Rider :...no background check.

 [newburg] General64', Can you share with us what the tax consequences will be?

 [generals64] newburg :...No one really knows and anyone that says they do are entirely mistaken.....

 [pursuitoftruth] I don't trust the snakes in DC in that den of vipers, but haven't for a long time

  [generals64] pursuitoftruth :...don't worry about DC

  [generals64] you guys:....papa bear told me some stuff years ago and that has been my watch point.

  [generals64] Bear you said when gold drops and silver drops then we will be close......Gold was 1800.00 then...its 1260.00 today...

  [cool1967] generals64 Do you expect RV in next 3-4 days?

  [generals64] cool1967 :...If I had a nickle for everytime that question was asked i would have a bunch of nickles.

  [cool1967] generals64 Is this true that RV happened last night but it was again stopped by UST?

 [generals64] cool1967 :...If the RV had of happened.....NOW LISTEN TO ME HERE. The Dinar Traders would not be selling it at the low rate. Go into any of the trading sites and check the prices...

 [generals64] OK....I have only been here in this room tonight. you that don't know me must understand.....I am a "Grump"...I don't mean to be however....give me a second to type and I will once again explain everything. but, I want to tell you a story first...it'' take a second

 [Papa Bear] Good evening Generals. You Folks wont see this often but statement by Bella has the dinar world excited and I am here

 [pursuitoftruth] So Papa Bear what about that statement?

 [snowcap71] What Bella wrote doesn't have me excited it has me upset

 [Papa Bear] Generals continue I have your back

 [generals64] there was once a young cheyenne Indian Brave going to the top of the mtn. to pray. he heard a small voice saying "help Me". he looked down and it was a rattlesnake...the young boy jumped back and said no, you'll kill me...the sanke promised not to if he would help him down the mtn. When the boy got to the bottom of the mtn and the snake got warm he bit the boy and as the boy was dying he looked at the snake and said "but you promised"...the snakes replay:...You knew what I was before you picked me up.

 [gizmosmom] Whos the snake? And who is the boy?

 [generals64] gizmosmom :...the moral is this....if you have been listeneing to other people and nothing they have told you has come true then why would you believe them at all?

 [yellowrose] Generals 64 does the fact that you are here tonight after 4 mos absence mean we are very close? Ps I think you are great!

 [generals64] yellowrose :...thank you but not really....I too want to see this happen

 [generals64] the average dinar holder holds 100,000....did you know that?

 [generals64] if you guys/gals will take a minute and google IRAQI DINAR HISTORY ....you will be told the truth. the rate in 1932 was $4.79.....go figure...

  [generals64] The rate in Kuwait today is $3.55 for the Kuwaiti Dinar...

 [stebusan] generals64 Will there be onsite verification of our currency?

 [generals64] stebusan :...the banks all have the ability to verify your currency when you go in there.

 [Readynow] generals64 will the location we are sent to have on site verification?

  [generals64] Readynow :....yes

 [notsoguru] generals64 if you get a free toaster does Roscoe get free treats? So are you implying that IYO the rate will be close the old iraq rate and higher than kuwaits? 

  [generals64] notsoguru :....don't try to hustle an old hustler.....No One knows the rates....NO ONE....if someone tells you their banker said it was so much then you can call the SEC and have that banker arrested..."Insider Trading" is not legal....

  [lilypad] Generals64, Hello, What does being in lock down really mean? We have been told that so much.

  [generals64] lilypad :...In the prison shows (never been there myself) it means no one in and no one out

 [sananddan24] Generals64 any true that we have to wait 2 weeks after the exchange to rec'd our money in accounts?

 [generals64] First...this is a currency exchange PERIOD!!!!!!!

 [generals64] anyone telling you a bunch of BS is just someone trying to feel important. IF you take Mexican pesos to exchange them they give you the money right then. This will undoubtedly be a digital transfer....You will not be walking out with a wheelbarrow of cash. You (and I) and Roscoe will get a deposit slip

 [oxglove] generals64 how will reserves be handled with the group? thanks!

  [fantasia.] Yes, I am very interested in the reserve situation,,

 [generals64] fantasia. :...Reserves from what I understand is basically an order you have placed with a trading company...Kinda like a lay-away at Wal-Mart. You go and pay for your lay-away and you then own the hard currency....Then you take it (another appointment) to the bank and cash it in....

 [lovely] must we sign a NDA?

  [generals64] No One really knows about an NDA.....

  [oldrichguy2b] generals64 Is there any indication that this RV is going to happen soon?

 [generals64] oldrichguy2b :...No One really knows...

 [generals64] oldrichguy2b :...are you old enough to remember when the mid-year Corvettes came out?

[generals64] oldrichguy2b OK...General Motors kept the ST. Louis plant under total Lock Down while they were building the first cars.

This is the same thing....why would they (the Financial world) let anyone tell anything truthful without it really happening....

They are not going to tell all of the so-called intel-gatherers anything....
 
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MAIN STREAM MEDIA --Iraqi Dinar Investment: Fact or Fiction?

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. (WHNT) - Across the country and in the Tennessee Valley, people are buying Iraqi dinar.  They’ve been told it will one day rise sharply in value against the U.S. dollar, leading to a financial windfall for them.

Albertville resident Tim Jones is one of those who bought in, along with his pastor and several church members.

Years later, the payoff still hasn't come.  A WHNT News 19 investigation also uncovered warnings from state regulators, the Better Business Bureau and financial experts calling dinar investment a scam.
Despite the warnings, many people remain invested.  They continue to hold the physical currency - often purchased through private dealers at a markup - and point to specific claims as justification for buying in.
So are those claims, used to promote dinar as a good investment, fact or fiction?

WHNT News 19 took action to find out.  Here's what our investigation found:

Claim #1: There will be a "revaluation" or "RV" of Iraqi dinar, raising its value against the U.S. dollar and leading to a payoff for the investor

Currency expert John Jagerson, of LearningMarkets.com, tells WHNT News 19 a "revaluation" of Iraqi dinar "could not happen" and "is not planned to happen."
Jagerson, who spent years researching the subject and authored an e-book called The Iraqi Dinar Scam: Why Buying the Dinar is for Dummies, adds that many of the "facts" dinar investors believe are actually false.

Jagerson thinks many dinar promoters are "perpetrating falsehoods" to increase the attractiveness of dinar; perhaps profiting off connections to dinar dealers, or exclusive website memberships and online advertising.  State regulators agree, warning dinar promoters will "misrepresent history" to try to prove profits are possible.

As Jagerson explains, it's not in Iraq's interest to allow the dinar's value to rise - even through a small appreciation - since it would make it harder for the country to pay off debts, more expensive for foreign companies to do business and limit Iraq's post-war growth.

"Why would Iraq want to do to their currency what no other country wants to do?" Jagerson emphasized.  "It would be like standing on your economic brakes with both feet.  No one does it because it makes no sense."
He points out that dinar speculators also often confuse the economic terms revaluationand redenomination.

In a redenomination, often done when inflation has reached untenable levels in a country, old bills of larger denominations are swapped for new bills of smaller denominations.  An old 25,000 dinar note could, for example, be exchanged for a new 25 dinar note.  Under this "dropping the zeros" scenario, the purchasing power (or value) of the new note is the same as the old note.  Nobody makes any money.

As Reuters reports, Iraq is on record as saying it eventually intends "to redenominate the Iraqi dinar to simplify financial transactions in an economy that is still heavily centralised."  WHNT News 19 could find no credible reports of a stated intent to "revalue."

The U.S. State Department was also quite clear on the possibility of a "revaluation" in Iraq when contacted for comment.  The State Department is sometimes blamed for holding up Iraq's "RV" along with various international bodies.  Spokesperson Noel Clay however, gave WHNT News 19 the following statement:



"We are unaware of any plans by the Iraqi government to revalue the Iraqi Dinar.  Iraq is a sovereign nation and the U.S. government plays no role in determining Iraq's foreign exchange policies."
 




Claim #2: There was a "revaluation" in Kuwait that shows something similar is possible in Iraq

Banking and financial experts confirm to WHNT News 19 that while market forces did cause Kuwait's currency to fluctuate in value during and after the 1990 Iraqi invasion, there was never a revaluation like many describe.



"Historically, a revaluation where your currency suddenly becomes worth many times what it used to be in the foreign exchange, that's never happened. Ever," Jagerson said firmly.

When Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990, the Iraqi dinar replaced the Kuwaiti dinar as currency.  Kuwaiti dinar was essentially relegated to black market status.  As explained on the Kuwaiti government's own website, banking stopped inside the country and invading Iraqis stole huge amounts of Kuwaiti dinar and riches.

After liberation, Kuwait's dinar was restored as that country's official currency and new banknotes were issued to keep all the stolen monies from being used.  During this issuing, the pre-invasion rate was simply reestablished.



Iraq's history and circumstances are also very different from Kuwait.



A top executive at one of the nation's largest banks spoke on background to WHNT News 19.  The executive explained that while it's possible some people may have profited from holding Kuwaiti dinar during a market-led appreciation post-liberation, expecting anything similar in Iraq is totally unrealistic.

A March 2014 Wells Fargo "International Strategy" memo explains further.  It describes, in detail, why both 1960s West Germany and Kuwait are "poor precedent for Iraq."  The memo also warns of elevated risks of illiquidity and fraud for dinar buyers.



Claim #3: President George W. Bush's Executive Order 13303 gives Americans special legal rights to hold or invest in Iraqi dinar



As you can see here, 13303 specifically protects the Development Fund for Iraq, as well as Iraqi oil products and interests - including ownership by U.S. persons - from any legal attachments or liens.  It does not mention dinar, or investment in dinar, at all.



In this 2012 federal indictment against "BH Group" for fraud in the marketing and selling of Iraqi dinars, a grand jury also charges: "Any assertion that Executive Order 13303 promotes, protects, or regulates the sale of or investment in, Iraqi dinar is false." See page 5, charge 14.



Claim #4: The U.S. Treasury holds a large position in Iraqi dinars



The same federal indictment against "BH Group" states that, in fact, the "U.S. Department of the Treasury does not hold any Iraqi dinar for investment purposes and holds only a nominal amount for use."



Claim #5: I bought my dinar at a bank and it's a real currency, so it's clearly not a scam



Different U.S. banks appear to have purchased and sold dinar at various times in recent years.  At time of broadcast, WHNT News 19 could find no banks currently exchanging the currency, although they may exist.

Those with knowledge of the banking industry tell WHNT News 19 banks are under no "official" restriction when it comes to buying or selling Iraqi dinar and that some may have stopped due to concerns over dinar speculation.



Jay Lawrence, Southeast Communications Manager for Wells Fargo, provided the following statement to WHNT News 19, explaining why the bank does not deal in dinar:




"Wells Fargo does not offer any consumer exchange for Iraqi dinar.  Wells Fargo provides a wide range of foreign currency banknote services, generally for travel-related purposes to meet the needs of our customers traveling abroad.  We do not, however, expect a high number of customers traveling to Iraq for business or leisure purposes in the near future.
As a result, we do not trade Iraqi dinar and we have no plans to change this policy in the future.  We are aware that some websites or blogs promote the purchase of Iraqi dinar as an investment strategy.  We disagree with the view that holding Iraqi dinar banknotes is a sound investment strategy."





The statement directly contradicts claims from dinar promoters that "1-800" numbers are, or will be set up at Wells Fargo, to exchange dinar for customers.



Jagerson, along with state regulators, emphasize that it's not Iraqi dinar itself that's the problem.  "It's the investment in the currency as a way to make profits that’s the scam," Jagerson said.



Claim #6: There's a "Global Currency Reset" that banks, governments and global players like the World Bank or IMF are secretly coordinating and/or holding up



"That's probably one of the biggest fantasies in the scam - that there is some kind of government conspiracy behind it," Jagerson said.



A high-level executive at one of the nation's largest banks also laughed off the idea of a currency reset.  The executive told WHNT News 19 private banks do not play a role in sovereign countries' exchange rate management.



The creation of any new global economic framework would also almost certainly have coverage in the respected financial media.



The International Monetary Fund's mission chief for Iraq, Carlo Sdralevich, was even more blunt, sending WHNT News 19 the following statement:




"No such a thing as a 'Global Currency Reset' exists. The IMF has no role in managing the Iraqi dinar or Iraq's exchange rate system.
 
We work with the Iraqi government and central bank to provide policy advice and technical assistance as part of our ongoing dialogue with them. Decisions on the exchange rate are taken by the country authorities in full independence and sovereignty.
 
There is no external constraint imposed preventing the Iraqi dinar's revaluation or devaluation. The stability of the dinar is the result of Iraq's own monetary and exchange rate policies."
 




Representatives from both the World Bank and U.S. State Department said the same, when asked by WHNT News 19 to clarify what operational powers they have in Iraq.



The State Department [url=http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB198/FOI Economy and Infrastructure.pdf]also addressed this document[/url] specifically, which some dinar supporters argue shows an official goal of a 1:1 exchange ratio of Iraqi dinar to U.S. dollars.



State Department spokesperson Noel Clay said of the document, "I am not familiar with it and cannot vouch for its validity.  Regardless, it is from June 2005 and Iraq has undergone significant change since then.  I would suggest that the document would hold little relevance to Iraq today."



Claim #7: Iraqi dinar is still a good buy, even without a "revaluation"



Even without an "RV" or "Global Currency Reset," some investors believe Iraq's oil reserves and development potential make dinar a good purchase.  Some investors argue the market could drive a strong appreciation in the future.



In 2009, CNBC financial host Jim Cramer appeared to give dinar investment a green light, commenting on the nation's potential for growth post-war, especially with regard to oil companies.  "I'm always in favor of owning the currency as a play," Cramer said.  Click here to watch the clip.



Currencies don't behave like stocks though and as Jagerson points out, a rising GDP doesn't guarantee gains.  In fact, history shows that for countries like Iraq, "Having a growing economy and growing oil exports does not equal a growing currency.  Generally, it's exactly the opposite," Jagerson explained.

Jagerson started researching Iraqi dinar after a close friend invested, then turned to him for expert insight.  Jagerson said he spotted the red flags immediately and wants to use his currency acumen to keep others from falling victim.  He's produced several online videos to explain, in simple terms, why the arguments in favor of dinar investment don't add up. Click here to watch them.



After reading the findings above, some dinar investors may be feeling misled.  Concerned individuals can contact the Alabama Securities Commission, which recently issued a statewide "Investor Alert" addressing dinar.



If you purchased the currency and feel you were sold false claims about its potential to rise in value, call Topics tagged under 4 on Dinar Daily - Page 3 Call_skype_logo(334) 242-2984 or Topics tagged under 4 on Dinar Daily - Page 3 Call_skype_logo1-800-222-1253 FREE.  You can also emailasc@asc.alabama.gov.



To read the warnings WHNT News 19 uncovered about dinar investment from state regulators, the Better Business Bureau and financial experts, click here.


by kenlej
on Fri Mar 18, 2016 12:01 pm
 
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Topic: MAIN STREAM MEDIA --Iraqi Dinar Investment: Fact or Fiction?
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Iraqi Dinar Lawsuits Reviewed

Iraqi Dinar Lawsuits Reviewed


Cases and Lawsuits Related to the Dinar

There have been a number of lawsuits involving iraqi dinar, we cover those and related complaints below. We will research each as time permits.

* IF you have not read our page on the 5 Stages of Hype used to sell you on the Dinar, you should check it out!

Topics tagged under 4 on Dinar Daily - Page 3 Lawsuit-notice-pin-smallNOTICE: The FBI asks that you call 877-236-8947 if you feel you’ve been mislead into buying Iraqi Dinar. They want to hear your story! Letters have been sent to the court asking the court to give back money that was acquired in the raid – the feds can tell you more about this!

Case #1 – USA vs Sterling Currency Group, Ty Rhame, James Shaw, Carole Laurette Shaw, Frank Bell. The complaint, concerning Money Laundering, also mentions Sterling Funder (owned by Sterling’s attorney David Lilenfeld with Tyson Rhame and James Shaw), GID Partners, Isolveit.Com (registered to Sterling Funder’s VP of Product Management), and many more. This lawsuit was filed after Husam Tayeh brought up Money Laundering in their amended complaint against Sterling Currency Group.

Case #2 – USA vs Dinar Corp Inc, Husam Tayeh and MyMonex – This complaint was filed after Sterling discussed registration in their response to Husam’s lawsuit.

Case #3: Dinar Corp Inc Lawsuit Complaint Review – Husam Tayeh is a Dinar Dealer who owns Dinar Corp, Inc. (DCI) and filed a lawsuit against Sterling Currency Group.

Case #4: Sterling Currency Group Lawsuit Complaint Review – Sterling sued me for $5 million and I counter-sued them for $20 million. Check out my adbusive litigation letter to Sterling’s attorney David Michael Lilenfeld and look at the exhibts I provided the court. Also, check out my email to Tyson Rhame and his hostile response!

Case #5: Virginia A. Burdette – complaint to avoid and recover fraudulent transfer.

Case #6: This is a Defamation Complaint / Lawsuit filed against Tamer Deniz and was dismissed shortly after.

Case #7: Stefano Grossi Consulting – Stefano Grossi was hired to create the website to sell iraqi dinar to investors. In court, he told the Judge “I didn’t lie, I told the truth but at times I didn’t tell the truth”. He committed misconduct in court and lost the case!

Case #8: Pigott Law vs BH Group and BH Group Indictment

Case #9: This U.S. Army Major was charged with Smuggling Iraqi Dinar out of Iraq.

Case #10: USA vs Anthony Renfrow Plea Agreement – and learn why he ran with the Plea agreement.

Case #11: FBI Seized these assets from Tyson Rhame’s home and Sterling Currency Group – additional case

Do you know of a case / lawsuit that is related to dinar dealers or dinar itself? If so, please leave a comment and let us know!

Cease and Desist Orders and more…

State of Alaska Order 15-1449-C Final Cease and Desist Order Imposing a Civil Penalty against Sterling Currency Group, LLC.

7. In the course of the same examination, the Department determined that Respondent acquired GID Associates, Inc. (“GID”) (gidassociates.com) on September 20, 2013, but failed to disclose this acquisition to the Department and register GID.

Emergency Order 2015-014 to Cease and Desist Activity and to Suspend License of Sterling Currency Group, LLC

2. On June 3, 2015, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) executed a search warrant against Sterling and Ty Rhame (Rhame), Sterling’s founder. While executing the search warrants, FBI agents raided both Sterling’s offices and Rhame’s home.




https://www.iraqidinar.org/iraqi-dinar-lawsuits-reviewed/
by RamblerNash
on Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:42 am
 
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Topic: Iraqi Dinar Lawsuits Reviewed
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Views: 4802

James Shaw vacations to the Bahamas on Dinarians money.

RamblerNash wrote:Iraqi Dinar Lawsuits Reviewed




Cases and Lawsuits Related to the Dinar

There have been a number of lawsuits involving iraqi dinar, we cover those and related complaints below. We will research each as time permits.

* IF you have not read our page on the 5 Stages of Hype used to sell you on the Dinar, you should check it out!

Topics tagged under 4 on Dinar Daily - Page 3 Lawsuit-notice-pin-smallNOTICE: The FBI asks that you call 877-236-8947 if you feel you’ve been mislead into buying Iraqi Dinar. They want to hear your story! Letters have been sent to the court asking the court to give back money that was acquired in the raid – the feds can tell you more about this!

Case #1 – USA vs Sterling Currency Group, Ty Rhame, James Shaw, Carole Laurette Shaw, Frank Bell. The complaint, concerning Money Laundering, also mentions Sterling Funder (owned by Sterling’s attorney David Lilenfeld with Tyson Rhame and James Shaw), GID Partners, Isolveit.Com (registered to Sterling Funder’s VP of Product Management), and many more. This lawsuit was filed after Husam Tayeh brought up Money Laundering in their amended complaint against Sterling Currency Group.

Case #2 – USA vs Dinar Corp Inc, Husam Tayeh and MyMonex – This complaint was filed after Sterling discussed registration in their response to Husam’s lawsuit.

Case #3: Dinar Corp Inc Lawsuit Complaint Review – Husam Tayeh is a Dinar Dealer who owns Dinar Corp, Inc. (DCI) and filed a lawsuit against Sterling Currency Group.

Case #4: Sterling Currency Group Lawsuit Complaint Review – Sterling sued me for $5 million and I counter-sued them for $20 million. Check out my adbusive litigation letter to Sterling’s attorney David Michael Lilenfeld and look at the exhibts I provided the court. Also, check out my email to Tyson Rhame and his hostile response!

Case #5: Virginia A. Burdette – complaint to avoid and recover fraudulent transfer.

Case #6: This is a Defamation Complaint / Lawsuit filed against Tamer Deniz and was dismissed shortly after.

Case #7: Stefano Grossi Consulting – Stefano Grossi was hired to create the website to sell iraqi dinar to investors. In court, he told the Judge “I didn’t lie, I told the truth but at times I didn’t tell the truth”. He committed misconduct in court and lost the case!

Case #8: Pigott Law vs BH Group and BH Group Indictment

Case #9: This U.S. Army Major was charged with Smuggling Iraqi Dinar out of Iraq.

Case #10: USA vs Anthony Renfrow Plea Agreement – and learn why he ran with the Plea agreement.

Case #11: FBI Seized these assets from Tyson Rhame’s home and Sterling Currency Group – additional case

Do you know of a case / lawsuit that is related to dinar dealers or dinar itself? If so, please leave a comment and let us know!

Cease and Desist Orders and more…

State of Alaska Order 15-1449-C Final Cease and Desist Order Imposing a Civil Penalty against Sterling Currency Group, LLC.

7. In the course of the same examination, the Department determined that Respondent acquired GID Associates, Inc. (“GID”) (gidassociates.com) on September 20, 2013, but failed to disclose this acquisition to the Department and register GID.

Emergency Order 2015-014 to Cease and Desist Activity and to Suspend License of Sterling Currency Group, LLC

2. On June 3, 2015, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) executed a search warrant against Sterling and Ty Rhame (Rhame), Sterling’s founder. While executing the search warrants, FBI agents raided both Sterling’s offices and Rhame’s home.



https://www.iraqidinar.org/iraqi-dinar-lawsuits-reviewed/



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by chilimama
on Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:36 am
 
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Topic: James Shaw vacations to the Bahamas on Dinarians money.
Replies: 12
Views: 8087

James Shaw vacations to the Bahamas on Dinarians money.

Iraqi Dinar Lawsuits Reviewed




Cases and Lawsuits Related to the Dinar

There have been a number of lawsuits involving iraqi dinar, we cover those and related complaints below. We will research each as time permits.

* IF you have not read our page on the 5 Stages of Hype used to sell you on the Dinar, you should check it out!

Topics tagged under 4 on Dinar Daily - Page 3 Lawsuit-notice-pin-smallNOTICE: The FBI asks that you call 877-236-8947 if you feel you’ve been mislead into buying Iraqi Dinar. They want to hear your story! Letters have been sent to the court asking the court to give back money that was acquired in the raid – the feds can tell you more about this!

Case #1 – USA vs Sterling Currency Group, Ty Rhame, James Shaw, Carole Laurette Shaw, Frank Bell. The complaint, concerning Money Laundering, also mentions Sterling Funder (owned by Sterling’s attorney David Lilenfeld with Tyson Rhame and James Shaw), GID Partners, Isolveit.Com (registered to Sterling Funder’s VP of Product Management), and many more. This lawsuit was filed after Husam Tayeh brought up Money Laundering in their amended complaint against Sterling Currency Group.

Case #2 – USA vs Dinar Corp Inc, Husam Tayeh and MyMonex – This complaint was filed after Sterling discussed registration in their response to Husam’s lawsuit.

Case #3: Dinar Corp Inc Lawsuit Complaint Review – Husam Tayeh is a Dinar Dealer who owns Dinar Corp, Inc. (DCI) and filed a lawsuit against Sterling Currency Group.

Case #4: Sterling Currency Group Lawsuit Complaint Review – Sterling sued me for $5 million and I counter-sued them for $20 million. Check out my adbusive litigation letter to Sterling’s attorney David Michael Lilenfeld and look at the exhibts I provided the court. Also, check out my email to Tyson Rhame and his hostile response!

Case #5: Virginia A. Burdette – complaint to avoid and recover fraudulent transfer.

Case #6: This is a Defamation Complaint / Lawsuit filed against Tamer Deniz and was dismissed shortly after.

Case #7: Stefano Grossi Consulting – Stefano Grossi was hired to create the website to sell iraqi dinar to investors. In court, he told the Judge “I didn’t lie, I told the truth but at times I didn’t tell the truth”. He committed misconduct in court and lost the case!

Case #8: Pigott Law vs BH Group and BH Group Indictment

Case #9: This U.S. Army Major was charged with Smuggling Iraqi Dinar out of Iraq.

Case #10: USA vs Anthony Renfrow Plea Agreement – and learn why he ran with the Plea agreement.

Case #11: FBI Seized these assets from Tyson Rhame’s home and Sterling Currency Group – additional case

Do you know of a case / lawsuit that is related to dinar dealers or dinar itself? If so, please leave a comment and let us know!

Cease and Desist Orders and more…

State of Alaska Order 15-1449-C Final Cease and Desist Order Imposing a Civil Penalty against Sterling Currency Group, LLC.

7. In the course of the same examination, the Department determined that Respondent acquired GID Associates, Inc. (“GID”) (gidassociates.com) on September 20, 2013, but failed to disclose this acquisition to the Department and register GID.

Emergency Order 2015-014 to Cease and Desist Activity and to Suspend License of Sterling Currency Group, LLC

2. On June 3, 2015, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) executed a search warrant against Sterling and Ty Rhame (Rhame), Sterling’s founder. While executing the search warrants, FBI agents raided both Sterling’s offices and Rhame’s home.



https://www.iraqidinar.org/iraqi-dinar-lawsuits-reviewed/
by RamblerNash
on Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:27 am
 
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Topic: James Shaw vacations to the Bahamas on Dinarians money.
Replies: 12
Views: 8087

Mountain Goat 3/7/16

Hello Everyone,
 
In today’s letter I have brought you some amazing news and articles to back it all up. We are heading in a very good direction as Iraq is about to get out of this period of stalling they have been in now for months. Remember I said these periods of stalling are usually followed with a period of progress and moving forward. This seems to be the way they operate as they must first plan, then build support for the plan and act upon the plan. This is how a true technocrat democracy works and Abadi’s efforts sure fits this definition.  
 
This news letter today is very long and some sarcastically accuse me of writing a book each time. Well I guess that maybe this is what we all need to understand truly what is going on in Iraq. If you want to formulate a reasonable date as to when this RV will or can take place then you have to get in the minds of the leaders and see what and why they are doing what they are doing. It is that simple. 

Again I will say this news letter is not a date and a rate blurb or tweet. Instead it is us trying to understand and appreciate what Iraq is doing through to get us investors our return on our investment (the RV). Do you really want to know or do you want to get hyped up with a false date and rates once again?  No Hype, No Rumors, just the FACTS.
 
Besides cleaning up the corruption and getting the needed new laws, we also see another path of financial planning taking place in the background and this too is ongoing and needed.
We may not on the surface see much happening in this area, but if we follow the news, we can find tid bits showing the completion of the needed steps to complete this path.
 
So there are two distinct paths being driven now. One from the financial sector and the other from the political side. The political side is to end corruption, legislation stalling and install the needed laws to coincide with the financial sector that is preparing Iraq for operating under a modern, global banking system.
 
These are two very distinct paths but not necessarily separate since at some point the progress much merge together to get the final outcome needed. What is the final outcome? It is NOT THE RV but an orderly, secure, progressive society that can responsibly function in a global economy and pay back the PTB on their investment from Iraq. The RV is only a by-product and a necessity of this process. So everything is not always about the RV but instead about PROGRESS in these two distinctive paths. Learn the paths and you can almost predict the outcome and when it will occur.
 
WE ARE ABOUT TO SEE AN EXPLOSION OF PROGRESS when these paths converge (or collide) very soon.  Folks – this can not and will not go on forever! Be patient !
 
See article below.
 
I quote from the article below- “the economic and investment commission in Parliament, announced earlier, the intention of the government to activate the tourism sector in Iraq, similar to other countries”
 
So Iraq is planning to activate the tourism sector in their country. Really?
So just how do you so this with a terrorist threat still looming in Mosul? So is the situation in Mosul much better than they are telling us in the news?
 
I quote from the article below- “She noted that religious tourism in Iraq is the front-runner of the geographical and archaeological tourism, considering that the security situation has a significant impact on that side," asserting that "all these things are just initial steps deliberate but fruit be gained at a later time and not immediately."
 
How would you get tourist to come to Iraq and see all the bombed out buildings and ruins? So is the reconstruction in fact moving ahead much quicker than they are leading us to believe?
 
How will they pay for their stay? Can they use credit cards in the hotels and stores? How will they exchange their money? What will be the rate since MCP still exists in Iraq? Will this cause yet more confusion and corruption among the present day money exchangers on the streets?
 
These are all issues they need to think about if they are ever going to have a thriving tourist industry. They will need a foreign currency and move out of their “closed” economy. So is the reality that Iraq is much farther ahead than they are leading us to believe. Does Najiba Najib know something we don’t?
 
Essentially we will have to get the lower denominations and coins soon and move into a globally recognized currency. Just my thoughts! What are yours?
 
Article Begins:
 
PARLIAMENTARY ECONOMY: THERE ARE PLANS TO ACTIVATE THE TOURISM SECTOR
 
March 6, 2016
 
Our economy / Iraq
A commission of economy and investment representative, on Sunday, there are plans to activate the tourism sector and the advancement of economic reality.
 
He said committee member Najiba Najib "The first step for the advancement of economic reality is interest in the agricultural and industrial sector because some plants need support in order to be rehabilitated and thus provide jobs and have more economic paybacks."
 
She said Najib, "As for the tourism sector, there are plans and programs are converting to private investment so as not to overburden the burden on the budget, as it we have a good religious tourism if organized well by some of the ministries concerned in this regard and those we could get revenues supply the state treasury a lot of money ".
 
She noted that "religious tourism in Iraq is the front-runner of the geographical and archaeological tourism, considering that the security situation has a significant impact on that side," asserting that "all these things are just initial steps deliberate but fruit be gained at a later time and not immediately."
 
She said, "The country was going through an economic and administrative chaos, in addition to the obvious lack of planning and strategy, but do not drop in oil prices to what we saw performing procedures seriously and move a few things."
 
It is said that the economic and investment commission in Parliament, announced earlier, the intention of the government to activate the tourism sector in Iraq, similar to other countries.

 
Article Ends

Today’s News
 
Today is Monday March 7th  2016. Still no RV.  Sorry!
 
Once again I will tell you to watch Iraq the CBI, Finance Ministry and Parliament. Only these areas will give us  CLUES as to when we can expect any significant increase in the value of the Iraqi dinar.  So this is what we will concentrate on most. No we don’t have to worry or watch anything China or Iran does as it is all insignificant in determining our new window for an RV.
 
The CBI actually told us out straight that they plan to inform the people on an ongoing basis the steps in the currency reform process. They seem to be doing just that. So we do not have to listen to nonsense about “funds being moved around” or “people already being paid out”. This other stuff is all nonsense with motivation to get you to buy more currency. I also have warned you in the past about this gross speculation on these other currencies especially the Iranian Rial, Vietnamese Dong and Zimbabwe Zim. These perpetrators will be brought to justice for their fraud as we are slowly seeing them being rounded up and charged with fraud just as I said would happen.
 
Update: Abadi’s Cabinet Reshuffle
 
We know that Abadi has been fighting corruption over this last year and we see he has hit a brick wall once again on getting the last few remaining needed laws passed. We know it is the National Alliance and in particular the Shi’ite dominated Dowa party that is stalling these efforts. We also know why and it is because these new laws impact them the most, as it will end their reign of terror and set the stage to prosecute them.
 
So Abadi has come out with a comprehensive road map for reform and the fight against corruption and the ministerial amendment. Recently we have seen the cleric Moqtada al – Sadr  who called on Friday for the government to be overthrown if it failed to act against corruption. This was amazing news since we know they have been demonstrating for weeks now with no real progress by the government to meet their demands.
 
We have also heard from other religious leaders the same on this topic of corruption as they too have spoken out in support of Sadr’s stance. The protestors came very close to raiding the green zone in Baghdad over this past weekend and the demonstrations almost went to a dangerous level of rioting. So we are seeing continued pressure by the clerics and it will not end until corruption is finally dealt with. These actions are once again all in our favor and will move in the direction of getting the RV.. I will show you how.
 
So now we are seeing a series of events take place. I bring you a series of articles in a time sequence that I hope you will understand. Nothing  just happens and is coincidental . So when you read these articles, in the sequence I present, you too can clearly see the direction Abadi is taking in solving this issue of stalling his reform movement.
 
Why do I bring this to you today?
I bring this because we know these last remaining laws MUST be passed and implemented prior to any RV.  This will not happen unless Abadi has his cabinet reshuffle and cleans out the corrupt officials from his cabinet. Remember in Iraq it is Abadi’s cabinet that writes the laws and the Federation Council that reviews them, then parliament legislature that enacts them.
 
We also know that in the background another BIG financial effort has been underway to set the stage for the launching of the lower denominations once again. The plan is for these two main events to collide together if all is successful and we can see this happening sometime soon. This is the proposed time to go global thus time for the RV.
 
In my last news letter I mentioned a timeframe of maybe mid April but I am was being a bit pessimistic since their goal was early December, then early January, then end of February and now it is mid April. But this is just for the launching of the lower denominations IF AND ONLY IF they can get these two events to collide (meaning both completed at the same target of mid March).
 
Am I predicting a date for the RV?
NO- I am only giving you my evaluation of what I am hearing and seeing take place. The fact that these two events may not collide means that in fact this may be held up again. There is no real date set for the RV only a proposed target timeframe for the completion of these two paths I describe today. We still have a couple weeks to go so let’s see what happens! 
 
So I mentioned two paths that must collide. What are these paths.


  • Get the needed laws passed to end the corruption (first the reshuffle of Abadi’s cabinet to make a more technocratic GOI)
  • Reform the CBI (financial institution) and work with the IMF and World Bank in satisfying all needed requirements for movement into Article 8 of member nations of the UN.   

 
Define technocracy: 1. a theory and movement, prominent about 1932, advocating control of industrial resources, reform of financial institutions, and reorganization of the social system, based on the findings of technologists and engineers. 2. a system of government in which this theory is applied 
 
So knowing what I just told you let us look at the recent news.
 
First we know that cleric Sadr in the mosques has been organizing a huge demonstration and public display of discontent with the slow movement to which the reforms on corruption has been moving. They want the corrupt officials gone from the government and they want them to be prosecuted. They want to end the stealing of the Iraqi funds. See article #1 and #2 below. They need final conclusion and so Sadr also states a 45 day deadline to implement the reforms. If not the protestors will move into the green zone and overthrow the government forcefully. To me this sounds very serious and can get very forceful again like in 2013 demonstrations. So I do not believe the GOI will want this to happen, especially when they are still fighting ISIS up north.
 
Second we see Abadi bringing together all the religious leaders of Iraq. We can now understand why he had to do this and why he did it on Sunday 3/6. He needed to explain his reform plan   See article #3 below.  
 
Third later on the same day we hear through the news media of Iraq of Abadi making a public speech telling us he secured support from the main Shi'ite groups in Iraq. See article #4 below. So we know the earlier meeting was very successful. So I guess Sadr’s ongoing demonstrations of Friday and Saturday did some good?
 
Then we see in article #5 below Abadi’s meeting with the leaders of the Kurdish parliamentary blocs to also gain support for upcoming cabinet reshuffle and the importance of unifying efforts to meet the challenges taking place in the country.
 
Next I bring article #6 that tells us the worries of the Kurds on Abadi’s announcement of a cabinet reshuffle. hy wouldn’t’ they be worried? Abadi is noted for eliminated jobs and positions as part of his reforms. The Kurds, according to the constitution are allowed 20% of the seats in his cabinet. Remember it is the cabinet that writes the laws so it is essential Kurdistan maintain this 20% through this reshuffle process. Article #6 tells you what the Kurds ended up getting. I bolded what they finally agreed to. Very, very good article and amazing how these past recent articles all flowed together in progression. Do you see it too? Does it all make sense to you now? 
 
So all in all it looks like Abadi’s road trip did some good. We see the seeds planted for cabinet changes. We know whey there was so much resistance to it. Now, as the dust settles, we need to see the fruits of his labor from all this effort. The stage is set…lol…lol…let’s see what happens in the coming weeks.
 
So can you see the articles ARE important and do give us clues as to what is going on only you  have to READ them to understand and not go off half cocked because some secret sourced told you the banks are ready to receive exchangers or China or the stock market is doing this or that…..lol…lol… Instead look at the Iraqi news and concentrate on the areas we have been told to now watch. I listed these areas of most concern in my last news letter dated 3/5. Did you read it? I always now try to cover just these areas in my news letters. I don’t care what other countries are doing. It is Iraq currency I care most about thus let’s stick to Iraqi news. Get it? My news letter is all about Iraq and when can we see this long awaited RV. But we must work to get to this point of prediction and this means listen to them not some half cocked idiot trying to tell you some rumors or misinformation they can not substantiate or verify.
 
Article #1 Begins:
 
COORDINATION: TODAY'S DEMONSTRATION LAST CHANCE FOR POLITICIANS TO MODIFY THE PATH

March 4th, 2016  
 
Coordinating the demonstrations confirmed that the demonstration today, Friday, will be the last chance for politicians to amend the government's path and go to the government of technocrats.

She's coordinating demonstrations (Il Giornale) that there is a lot of coordination and grandfather with the Sadrist movement for the purpose of uniting the efforts and visions and claims of the Iraqi street.

She noted that she will be coordinating reading out an important statement during a demonstration involving thousands of Iraqis from different nationalities and denominations amid tight security.

Coordinating and said security forces had prevented some media and direct transport vehicles from entering for the purpose of covering the demonstration, which started near the Green zone spot.

 
Article #1 Ends
 
I want to note that the protectors hung multiple mannequins dressed up like politicians with name tags on each of them. We already know the names that were presented…..lol…lol…I am telling you this for what comes next in my news letter. I will talk more about these threats by the protectors later on..
 
Article #2 Begins:

THE LAUNCH OF A DEMONSTRATION IN FRONT OF THE GREEN ZONE

04.03.2016
 
[Oan- Baghdad] was launched a popular demonstration in front of the gates of the Green Zone in central
Baghdad.

And he saw a demonstration tight security and the face of the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces Prime Minister Haider al - Abadi day security forces firmness to protect the security of citizens, also stressed the readiness of security forces to address all armed manifestations outside the framework of the state to prevent breaches exploited by terrorism. He also called on the demonstrators Prime Minister to maintain the peaceful protests and a commitment to public order and the protection of property to miss an opportunity to phishers. 

The cleric Moqtada al - Sadr yesterday called his followers not to enter the green Zone , "noting that" access to the red zone is not this week replaced, but after the deadline , "which gave the government the implementation of reforms through the end of the 45 days. 

Agreed Baghdad operations today at a demonstration of the Sadrist movement in front of the Secretariat of the Council of Ministers, but she was accused earlier in the day the Sadrists to escalate the situation after that brought scores of militants from various areas in Baghdad, after, inform them of the beginning of the lack of approval for a demonstration in this area.
 
In response to the call of the commander-Sadr .. Hundreds of thousands demonstrate in front of the green walls

 
Article #2 Ends
 
Article #3 Begins:
 
URGENT SOURCE: POSITIVE ATMOSPHERE PREVAILS LEADERS OF THE COALITION TALKS
 
[Oan- Karbala] 
Source familiar with the "positive atmosphere prevailed in the meeting of the National Alliance leaders currently being held in the city of Karbala said."
 
The source told all of Iraq that " the meeting will discuss the reforms and the ministerial amendment, anti - corruption and security file and other issues file." 

The National Alliance leaders arrived today to the city of Karbala and held a meeting to discuss the latest political and security developments in the country. 

The meeting was attended , along with Prime Minister Haider Abadi each of the alliance president Ibrahim Jaafari, head of the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council Ammar al - Hakim , the cleric Moqtada al - Sadr; and Khodair al, and on the Keywords, and Hashem al - Hashemi, and Hussain al - Shahristani, and Abdul - Karim al - Ansari. " 

Arrived Abadi in the afternoon in Karbala and announced that he will present in his visit and document integrated and comprehensive road map for reform and the fight against corruption and the ministerial amendment. "

 
Article #3 Ends
 
Article #4 Begins
 
IRAQ PM ABADI SECURES SHI'ITE SUPPORT FOR CABINET CHANGE PLAN: STATE TV
 
3/6/2016
  
Iraq's main Shi'ite groups on Sunday voiced support for Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi's plan to overhaul the government and combat corruption, state TV said.

The broadcaster cited a statement issued by the National Alliance, a loose gathering of Shi'ite groups that controls the majority of seats in parliament, after a meeting with Abadi in the Shiite holy city of Kerbala, south of Baghdad. The other blocs in parliament mainly represent the Sunni and Kurdish communities. Abadi, 19 months into his four-year term, said in February that he wanted to replace politically-appointed ministers with technocrats in a bid to weaken the current system which distributes positions along ethnic and sectarian lines, creating patronage networks blamed for breeding corruption.

Abadi's move came after criticism from the nation's highest Shi'ite cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, that his government has done little to combat graft. "The National Alliance affirms its position of support of the reforms and ministerial change that the Prime Minister has called for," the statement read on state TV said.

The Shi'ite meeting in Kerbala was attended by Moqtada al-Sadr, the powerful cleric who called on Friday for the government to be overthrown if it failed to act against corruption, according to state TV.

Sadr, whose opinion holds sway over tens of thousands of people, including fighters who took on U.S. troops in 2006-07, had threatened to break into the heavily-fortified Green Zone that houses main government buildings, the parliament and foreign embassies.Representatives of Abadi's ruling Dawa party and Ammar al-Hakim, the leader of the Islamic Supreme Council of Iraq ‎were also present at the Kerbala meeting, according to state TV  

 
Article #4 Ends
 
Article #5 Begins:
 
ABADI LOOKING WITH THE KURDS "UNITY OF EFFORT" FOR A CABINET RESHUFFLE
 
Monday 07-03-2016 | 1:53:43
 
Twilight News / hold Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi meeting with the leaders of the Kurdish parliamentary blocs.
 
The government statement said that during the meeting, they discussed political, security and economic situation in the country and move forward with the implementation of reforms and communication between the center and the region and to find solutions to problematic within the Constitution and the law.
 
They also discussed the upcoming cabinet reshuffle and the importance of unifying efforts to meet the challenges taking place in the country.

 
Article #5 Ends
 
Article #6 Begins:
 
ABADI AGREED TO SHARE THE KURDS MINISTERIAL CHANGE AND WILL SUPPORT THE REGION FINANCIALLY    
 
Vice said the coalition of Kurdish blocs that Prime Minister Haider al - Abadi agreed to grant share of the Kurds in the forthcoming cabinet reshuffle and he would launch an initiative to bring out the Kurdistan region and help from the financial crisis.
 
He said the mass Jemaah Islamiah , the parliamentary chairman Ahmed Haji Rashid , who attended the meeting of the heads and a representative of the Kurdish blocs in parliament with Abadi latter 's office yesterday evening that ' the meeting discussed several important topics , including the differences between the KRG and the federal government, and in this regard, the Prime Minister expressed his willingness to launch initiative towards the Kurdistan region which is assisting the region in the economic sphere and take out the Kurdistan region from the financial crisis afflicting '. 

He said Rashid 'We also discussed the reforms undertaken by Prime Minister file, and the need to be holistic, we emphasized the need to be Kurds 20% in the government, and the Prime Minister agreed to this proposal, as we have agreed to put forward several candidates to fill ministerial posts in order to be prime minister free in the selection of the candidate who suits him in the government work" 

He said Kurdish lawmaker 'We also talked about the need to be for the Kurdistan region 's share of foreign loans given to Iraq and expressed Abadi is ready to exchange the Kurdistan region proportion of these loans on condition that the province provides guarantees to repay these loans jointly, as we talked about entitlements peasants of Kurdistan, and in this topic also Abadi confirmed approval of the disbursement of these funds. " 

He said MP Ahmad Haji Rashid 'We put forward the subject of treatment of the injured chemical weapons, and we went back and studied Abadi treat those wounded at government expense. "

 
Article #6 Ends

Update: Fate of Maliki
 
Hold your horses cowboy! Let’s now go off half cocked on reading this next article!
 
So many factors are finally coming crushing down on Maliki and his goons. We all know it was just a matter of time to take him down and we have been witnessing this planned, slow, methodical process taking place since 2014 when the USA denounced they would no longer support for him and his goons.
 
Since this time we know for a fact that the ICC (international criminal court) has issued a warrant for Maliki’s arrest a couple months ago for crimes against humanity and terrorism. The only thing holding back the acting upon this warrant is the last bit of political power that Maliki holds as leader of the Dowa party and the amnesty he and his goons have been instrumental in stalling for so long in parliament. We also know that the VP position he once held was also his protection and so his reluctance to admit it was now the position dissolved. 
 
But now all this is changing and we see even the very last threads of Maliki and his goons soon fading. We witnessed these last recent bombings as farewell gifts from his goons. As usual when the @hit is about to hit the fan they instigate some dastardly dead in reprisal.
 
Many of you may have heard of a retirement announcement by Maliki. I would not be so fooled by this announcement, at least not yet. He normally does something like this and later changes his mind again . Then we see another surge of violence or some political maneuvering again as we are fooled into a lull. So let us not celebrate as of yet and wait and see how this plays out in the next couple weeks first.
 
I see this article as an announcement that Maliki is giving up the leadership of the party position. He was already banded from any future GOI position. Remember I told you Abadi was splitting the National alliance and taking nearly 75% of the members and forming a new “Unification Alliance” which is a reconciliation party for a new, non sectarian Iraq.
 
Article Begins:
 
SMELTING SPEAKS: MALIKI DECIDED TO RETIRE FROM PUBLIC OFFICE ONCE AND FOR ALL

BAGHDAD - Iraq Press - March 7 2016  .  

New World newspaper quoted sources described Palmqrbh of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki earlier that he decided to "retire" from official positions once and for all.

The sources added that "al-Maliki told the Iraqi politicians, and non-Iraqi retiring positions decision", without disclosing the occasion of adoption of this resolution, or the reasons that prompted Maliki to him. "

And circulated among the press a letter attributed to the melting-Maliki, "Yasser al-Maliki" the means of social communication "Watts August" in which he stressed that "Nuri al-Maliki decided to retire from the official political life once and for all, and he had told Iraqi officials and non-Iraqis do." 

The National Alliance, which held the leaders meeting Sunday in Karbala, has seen the participation of the leaders of the first line (Haider al-Abadi, Ammar al-Hakim and Muqtada al-Sadr and Ibrahim al-Jaafari), while absent from the meeting, head of a coalition of state law, Nuri al-Maliki, raising questions observers. 

It is said that al-Maliki, the Iraqi government terrace for two elections for the years (2006 - 2010) and (2010 to 2014).  


Update: Monetary Reform
 
Next let’s talk monetary reform…our favorite subject….lol…lol…
 
Remember once again the MOU (memo of understanding) between Iraq and the IMF. It was agreed to in October 2015 and published to the public viewing on 12th January 2016. I talked about this MOU in my recent news letters. I even gave you a link to the UN site so you could read it for yourselves.
 
There were many obligations agree to in this MOU and the three most critical items where due to be completed by the end of February. It is now early March. The IMF said it would review the progress again at this time. One of the items was to remove all barriers and obstacles to increasing the exchange rate of the Iraqi dinar. So now we see the IMF, the World Bank and Iraq meeting once again as the deadline has passed (see article below). ​

Incidentally I do believe Iraq was not successful in taking the currency out of the MCP (multiple currency practices), in other words keep the dinar rate at plus or minus 2% throughout all of Iraq. So what will happen next?
 
What will the IMF and the World Bank decide to do next? Will they simply give them more time to complete or realize the current CBI leadership does not have the expertise to accomplish these mandates?


Will Dr Shabibi come back as the governor to help?  Will Allen Greenspan help since we now know he is in Iraq. Will they decide to go international and put the currency on a float to meet this mandate?
 
Article Begins
 
PRESIDENT OF THE INTERNATIONAL MONETARY FUND AND BAN KI-MOON TO VISIT IRAQ SOON
 
05/03/2016 
 
Direction Press /
The head of the House of Representatives Saleem al-Jubouri in a speech in the House of Representatives, said on Saturday that "previous encounters led by the International Monetary Fund during our visit to Washington led to the latter pledged to make every effort to support Iraq."

The President of the Parliament in a statement quoted by the media office had received "direction Press" that "I've been told that the presidency of the Fund together with the Secretary General of the United Nations Ban Ki-moon will visit Iraq soon and meet the House of Representatives where it will be speeches from the Dome of the Iraqi parliament for both of them to support Iraq economically and appeal all brotherly and friendly countries to contribute to the support of Iraq and take it out of the financial crisis. "

He expressed the hope that "believes in good financial move Iraq toward a grant paid out of the crisis significantly.

  
Article  Ends
 
Article Begins
 
JUBOURI: WORLD BANK PRESIDENT WILL VISIT IRAQ TO DISCUSS ITS ECONOMIC CRISIS
 
March 5, 2016
 
Our economy / Baghdad
Parliament Speaker Salim al disclosed that the World Bank, "chairman Jim Yong Kim," will discuss Iraq's economic crisis during his upcoming visit to the country.
 
Speaker of Parliament and through the House of Representatives today 's meeting stressed that " the World Bank president vowed to make efforts to resolve the economic crisis in Iraq."

He Jubouri that "there is a call for the World Bank president to visit Iraq and to come to the House of Representatives to discuss the economic problem and ways to address them."

The head of the UN Mission United in Iraq , Jan Kubiš revealed in 13 of the last month for a planned visit by the Secretary-General of the United Nations Ban Ki -

 
Article Ends
 
Article Begins:
 
A GLOBAL CONFERENCE TO DISCUSS BANKING SERVICES IN IRAQ
 
Monday , March 7, 2016 
 
BAGHDAD
Mustafa al-Hashimi on Monday held the third World Conference and Exhibition on the financial and banking services in Iraq (Iraq Finance 2016) and lasts for two days in the capital Albannaanh Beirut. He said Ahmed Al Jader representative Szimksko company in Iraq organized the conference in a statement »Sabah»: The financial Iraq conference, which is held under the auspices of the Central Bank of Iraq, is the leading international event which provides an opportunity open dialogue between Iraqi government officials and decision-makers with the investors in the service industry Finance such as banks and local banks operating in Iraq and international companies seeking to develop its work in the local financial markets.
 
He explained that THIS CONFERENCE WILL FACILITATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR PROFESSIONALS AND FOREIGN INVESTORS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BANKING SECTOR IN IRAQ BY PROVIDING COMBINING BANKS AND INTERNATIONAL COMPANIES A PLATFORM TO COMMUNICATE WITH DECISION-MAKERS AND THE IRAQI BANKS AND THE EXCHANGE OF IDEAS AND EXPERIENCES, AS WELL AS PROVIDING THE OPPORTUNITY FOR BUSINESS DEALS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE BANKING BUSINESS IN THE COUNTRY, the fact that banks play a role president in the development of the Iraqi economy through the transformation of the economic challenges to investment opportunities.

 
Article Ends
 
Update: Needed Laws
 
Article Begin
 
PARLIAMENT FINISH READING THE THREE LAWS AND TO RAISE ITS TOMORROW [EXTENDED]         
 
[Oan- Baghdad] 
The House of Representatives ended in its usual , headed by Salim al - President of the Council and in thepresence of 267 deputies on Saturday, reading the three bills before to raise its to Sunday.

At the outset of the meeting hailed President al - Jubouri on the efforts of parliamentary committees of theextraordinary efforts in the legislative and supervisory work, especially the Legal Committee that take it upon themselves to submit draft laws, noting that the draft of the amnesty law is ready for presentation to a vote in the House.
 
On the other hand , al - Jubouri pointed out that the World Bank pledged during the meetings held with officials to make efforts to support Iraq and help him out of the financial crisis, pointing to the acceptance of the World Bank president and general secretary of the United Nations for Iraq 's invitation to come to the House and talk about the financial crisis and provide assistance and advice, stressing the importance of that economic reform the most important aspects that the House of Representatives is looking to achieve. 

the chairman of the parliament to the need for the House of Representatives moved on Member States at a conference of Islamic associations parliaments and conduct dialogues in areas that serve the issues of Iraq. 

He noted Jubouri to the keenness of the House of Representatives on the implementation of the reform that bears the executive responsible for any delay in the execution, criticizing the defamation campaign against the House of Representatives, especially with regard to salaries, noting that the House of Representatives first dish reforms and continuously implemented for the benefit of the Iraqi people, expressing the appreciation of the Council for the demonstrations that came out and standing by the demands of the masses, blaming the responsibility for delaying Tnniv reforms including promised reform was implemented.
 
In turn, the chairman of the Finance Committee MP Faleh force of the Council 's commitment to the Council ofMinisters decision Btejevd salaries of deputies and prepare protections since the first of August, as well as Council staff to reduce the salaries revealed, adding that the statement by the spokesman for the Council ofMinisters in this regard not true that the House of Representatives is committed to reforms. 

After parliament voted on membership Attorney Luis Caro Bandar health of the mass of the popular Council of Chaldean Syriac Assyrian Word appeal submitted by Adad Yusuf Ishaq , who belongs to an entity sons of Mesopotamia. The Council also voted to membership MP Kamel Nasser al - Zaidi 's health which belongs to the entity of the state of law of the Islamic Dawa Party - Iraq organization stated appeal by Ali Jabbar maintained against him. 

He recalled the Council KRG uprising of Representatives against injustice and tyranny which his body dictatorial regime of the former. " This was followed by the Attorney Saman Fattah , a statement on behalf of Kurdish blocs in which he pointed to five passage twenty years on the Kurdish uprising against the former dictatorial regime , which coincided with the popular uprising in the south, recalling the struggle of the people of Kurdistan in order to claim the right to self -government, calling at the same time , the House of Representatives to intervene with the State Department to demand a halt to the Turkish bombardment of Kurdish cities. It was then read Al - Fatiha in memory of the souls of those who sacrificed themselves for the homeland and freedom. 

 More to the article not presented here. It is very long and this news letter too is already large. But you have the important parts.

 
Article Ends
 
 
Let’s talk today about this damned Amnesty law.
 
First let me say this law was initially conceived in 2005. Yes- it has been around a long time and has met much opposition especially by those corrupt politicians who have had their own “private” militias terrorizing the Iraqi people all these years.
 
So once again the General Amnesty law surfaces (for the 5th time in recent times…lol…) and they are telling us it is ready once again to bring to parliament for a final vote. I am hearing the Dowa party (again) has been holding it back since they wanted to include terrorists accused of the bombings (probably Iranian militia).
It is a strong part of the reconciliation process and Abadi reforms.   
 
I quote from the article below - "the law will include a large number of convicts and detainees, including those convicted of murder if there is a compromise and reconciliation with the victim," pointing out that "the law DOES NOT INCLUDE those convicted in accordance with Article 4 / terrorism”.
 
We know they are letting thousands of innocent prisoners out every week. So the article below confirms in fact they are NOT going to let the terrorists out. Remember also they already passed the Iraqi anti-terrorist act back in August 2015 so these prisoners will stand trial and probably be executed since terrorisms is now punishable by hanging in Iraq.
 
Opps did I mention according to the new law Maliki and many of his goons would also be incited on crimes of terrorism? Can you see now why the final version of this law keeps recycling? Can you see now how they are setting the stage for prosecuting many of these corrupt officials in the near future? Can you see how they are going to use the system to get them?
 
So we know the Amnesty law has been a “ work in progress”. It is done once again but still needs a final vote to be final and legal going forward (so they can get these bastard corrupt politicians later on…lol..) . I also mentioned to you many months ago this is a mandatory law prior to any RV. So this is all very good news, if they really go through with it this time. Just one step closer….lol…lol…We should all be excited in many ways of the things to come out of the full implementation of this law.
 
Article Begins
 
SADOUN'S: FINAL AGREEMENT ON A GENERAL AMNESTY DOES NOT INCLUDE TERRORISTS
 
3/5/2016
 
At one point during the past 3 years, there were over 100,000 people in prison, including men, women, children, and mostly Sunnis.  The prisons had Shai -I guards over the Sunnis, an arrangement done by Maliki.  Many people were put in prison due to artidle 4 of the Constitution, since Maliki accused everyone as being a terrorist, if they were against him.  Now, we see this MAJOR LAW ABOUT TO BE VOTED ON IN ITS FINAL FORM.  This law is needed to bring corruption into the court rooms, and assign the proper punishment for the crime committed.  Below we see a line of people, that appears to be people leaving the prisons. JMHO
 
Vice-Chairman of the Parliamentary Legal Committee Muhsin al-Sadoun said he "was a final agreement on the wording of the draft general amnesty law."

He said al-Saadoun told all of Iraq  "We discussed yesterday the home of the President of the House of Representatives general amnesty law in the presence of competent judges and display the main points of contention have been agreed upon." 

He explained that "the law will include a large number of convicts and detainees, including those convicted of murder if there is a compromise and reconciliation with the victim," pointing out that "the law does not include those convicted in accordance with Article 4 / terrorism." 

He guessed Sadoun "Showing law in future meetings and vote on all articles," stressing that this law "falls under the reform." 

The House Speaker Salim al-Jubouri, search at his home yesterday, with the parliamentary legal committee in the presence of a number of judges and experts and advisers to speed up passage of the amnesty law. 

The head of the parliament, "the need for the completion of the preparation of this law as soon as possible and the need to come out so as to ensure justice to all the slides and applies justice and help create a favorable climate for moving a successful project and a real reconciliation." 

The Chairman of the Legal Committee of Parliament Mahmoud al-Hasan said to [where] earlier, "a political convergence around a general amnesty law, through the re-trial of a number of suspects in terrorist crimes through giving them a new opportunity to re-investigation," pointing out that "the investigation will include a seducer and all of them doubted the charge against him ".

 
Article Ends
 

Update: Payment of Employee Salaries

 
I have to tell you this topic is like going down a rabbit hole as far as intel goes. I keep hearing many of these so called intel gurus telling their audiences to keep watching for the new rate to show on this damned SMART cards. Over and over again for over a year now they get everyone hyped up to watch for these cards.
 
Well I will tell you this – The new rate will NOT show until the RV happens and they are not now paying the people with the RV rate…period!  I have to tell you to stop watching for these damned SMART cards and I have told everyone many times already.
 
They do not have any impact on the RV. They do not drive the RV but rather will be an outcome of the RV.
 
If you want to know if the RV is happening then go to the source. I have been told by some very reliable people in the CBI to PAY ATTENTION to what is going on with the GOI and the CBI when they meet with the IMF and World Bank. They are in charge of forcing this RV when Iraq has met all mandates.
 
So I bring you this next article below.  This issue is important to watch. Why?
 
Because it shows us once again the CBI is not doing its job. Also note there is an expense to print newer currency to replace the old ones. An expense the GOI is not ready to occur anymore since there is a ton of the new lower denominations in storage warehouses ready for distribution. This is the reason for the hesitation.

It all makes perfect sense! Think about it! These lower denominations should have been distributed months ago to replace the 3 zero notes. This is really the problem here but nice article for us.
 
Article Begins
 
EMPLOYEES RECEIVE THEIR SALARIES COMPLAIN OF STALE CURRENCIES

2016-03-01
 
BAGHDAD / JD / .. complained about a number of government employees from receiving their salaries currencies paper stale difficult traded in the domestic market, the central bank, demanding the withdrawal of those currencies and replace them with new ones.
 
Said Ahmed Abdel Sattar (asserting that those currencies traded in the market is difficult, because the owner of the commercial shops refuse to take delivery teacher), he received his salary during this month, last month paper currencies and very stale and patchy and the colorful graffiti inks.
 
Said Abdul Sattar told / KD /: that most of the salary is paid in the currency of 1,000 dinars and the 5,000 dinars, while the former was distracted by 25,000 thousand dinars and 10,000 dinars, urging the central bank to withdraw the defective ones editions of the domestic market and replaced with new ones to reduce some of the problems It may occur.
 
He suggested the distribution of employees' salaries through the smart card (Key Card) after he succeeded when retirees, so as to easily receive and reduce the thefts that have occurred in a number of state institutions in the last period.
 
For its part, the parliamentary finance committee confirmed that the central bank is usually based printing new currencies of the damaged ones and pull, excluded that there will be a very stale editions exist in abundance in the local market.
 
A member of the committee MP Jabbar al-Abadi told / KD /: that the central bank is usually watching and through the Iraqi currency State-owned banks and editions in various categories. When there are editions too stale so they can not use and circulation who shall bank transfer to the central bank and the latter in turn will print a new currency bearing the number He put himself on the market.
 
He said there could be corrupted currencies in the market, but not the size, which feared, though, the central bank demands to tighten the monitoring and follow-up for those currencies for the purpose of replacement.
He stressed that austerity does not prevent the central bank from carrying out his duties and is maintaining liquidity on the market.
 
 
Article Ends

 
Update: Fighting ISIS
 
The article below is just another confirmation that the battle to retake the Mosul  is now ongoing. We know this battle has in fact been ongoing now for weeks already. This article is a bit late but it is the announcement for the general public to the western world not for the middle east. As usual we see they are delaying the news by a couple weeks. 

Article Begins
 
THE INTERNATIONAL ALLIANCE ANNOUNCES THE START OF THE RESTORATION OF MOSUL DAASH PROCESS

Saturday 05 March 2016  

Announced the US special envoy to Iraq , Brett Makourk, Saturday, the start of the battle to liberate Mosul from the control Daash, through cutting the road between tenderness and Mosul. He described Makourk process Palmakdh, stressing that it was well - planned.
 
In the meantime, a spokesman for the command of the coalition forces said international Colonel Christopher Garver said 30 thousand Iraqi troops are planning to attack the city of Mosul, in northern Iraq. he pointed out that "from 8 to 12 Iraqi brigade, two Kurdish Peshmerga are preparing to retrieve Mosul , which may exist out what to no more than 10 thousand gunman continued to Daash" pointing out that " the Iraqis are still in a preparation of the plan." He explained that terrorists Daash, "they deport their families out of Mosul, and paying the salaries of the least of their fighters due to attack US troops and financial and oil for their organizations." bombed Iraqi heavy sites "Daash" south of Mosul: in the context of offline, the Iraqi security forces have carried out, on Friday, the first strikes on sites belonging to the terrorist organization Daash, south of Mosul seized by organizing the summer of 2014.

 
Article Ends
 
One more item today:
 
Most importantly please, please, please let’s not forget to keep praying for the success of THESE IRAQI AND COALITION SOLDIERS. I believe our prayers are in part some of the acceleration of the process we are now witnessing.  
 
Remember too to pray to the princess of peace – Our Blessed Virgin Mary. She has the ear of Christ and she can intercede in heaven and bring us the peace we all desire here on earth. We can not do it alone. I believe that if we all make this our daily prayer you will see change. It is already working even in the short time since I have been publishing this prayer section. It does not matter what religion you believe, if you pray then to your oven beliefs entity it is still the same powers and good for all of mankind. Ultimately it is all the same God anyhow.
 
“Lord, protect Abadi and all who stand with him in righteousness, the Iraq and coalition soldiers who are fighting the good fight against terrorism, that they would be shielded from the enemy and would be victorious against them in the battle for Mosul! We ask that the victory comes swiftly and healing of the Iraqi peoples and all whom have been effected by these evil doers can begin!
 
We pray for the process of the currency reform, the full implementation of  the Iraqi economy to full  international status and the bringing of prosperity and wealth to its people“  Amen!
 
Till next time…. Auf Wiedersehen!
 
Peace and Luv To Ya All, 
Mnt Goat


by Mountain Goatee
on Mon Mar 07, 2016 6:05 pm
 
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EXCHANGE APPOINTMENT NOTES...Copy & Edit at Will NAMASTE !!!!

Courtesy of WolfEyes  (WSOMN)

Exchange Appointment Notes

 
Extremely Important!
 
PLEASE DO NOT SIMPLY FORWARD THIS DOCUMENT!
 
I WISH MY IDENTITY PRIVATE!
 
I CANNOT FIELD QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE WHO MAY READ IT
 
Copy the text and put into your own new document if you wish to share. This is ONE PERSON’S OPINION.  NOT LEGAL or PROFESSIONAL ADVICE
 
WRITTEN with Wells-Fargo Bank –and Group-- in Mind

 
 
take a lawyer or Accountant with you to explain if you wish
 
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You will find a Great deal of helpful Information at:
 
5doutvesting.info/mybb/
 
 
 
PLEASE DO NOT SPREAD THIS AROUND! IT WILL PROVOKE QUESTIONS YOU DON”T WANT TO ANSWER AND NEITHER DO I
 
INSTEAD TREAT THIS LIKE CURRENCY.
 
IT MAY PROVE JUST AS VALUABLE
 
DO NOT   LEAVE IT or a PRINTOUT JUST EASILY FOUND ON YOUR PC OR IN YOUR DESK!
 
 
 
Setting the New Stage
 
 Most of the Delays we have experienced over the past years—for me, almost 2 ½ years and 122 weekends—have been so that the proper Balance and Safety for the release of funds could occur World-Wide. The cabal of Bankers and Corporates and Politicians fought and distracted us at every turn, seeking to keep themselves in luxuriousness and power, by attempting to enslave us and keep us poor and unhappy as much as they and their institutions could. However, they have now been forced to surrender power and new, more benevolent energies steer out planet’s course. Each of us is a vital part of the New Earth, know it now or not; and we have had to both learn Patience and raise our Inner Heart-Balance further into Love—which we will now be able to put into practice.
 
It really is a New Age! Signs have been visible and now will be our New Reality. Not going to enlarge here—the point is, our institutions are already changing into more beneficent, transparent forms—and this INCLUDES the banks. Especially, it appears, Wells-Fargo, which is the Lead Bank for the US—and which is ultimately owned and controlled by the Dragon Family, who as part of their role of safe-guarding the gold, gems, and treasure which back the RV, have made sure that  W-F understands that the primary purposes of these Funds we now receive, are to relieve lack and stress and bring in personal and familial Abundance; AND to assist our Neighbors (wherever they are), our environments, and Mother Earth, to return to the Thriving which is properly hers and ours by birth and God-given Right.
 
Your Big Advantage—Being Willing to Walk Away
 
            You can walk out! Any Time. They want you to deposit and leave most, if not all, of your money in their bank. They will NOT let you leave—it will hurt their careers! Don’t be afraid to gather your papers and start away if you are unhappy.
 
Everything is Changed / Changing
 
            Many of the predatory practices the banks have been doing are said to be over with. They should have new services tuned to the New Global Transparent Banking era we are now in. But still banking is a business for profit. However, customers at the $100,000. + level are highly prized and treated with respect. (Sadly, probably still the more $, the more respect).
 
 
 
SETTING THE APPOINTMENT
 
 
 
Exchange Locations
 
            You are in the 1% of the 1% who knows that the RV is real and happening! The banks don’t want, at the start as we are, to deal with a rush of people who will find out in days or weeks after us. Understand and respect your good fortune!!
 
There may well be 5500 and above Locations nationwide! Many of them will not be bank branches, but innocent-looking offices not necessarily near concentrations of larger businesses. The banks want us totally under the radar. So you may be sent to some anonymous-looking location. Or a professional but non-banking suite. However, there WILL be security there. Obviously they do not wish any untoward or unsafe incidents.
 
The Phone Call
 
            If you get an email from W-F, call the 800# they give, and call them ASAP. Don’t wait! While we will not be cattle-driven, they want us initially Exchanged and set up ASAP.
 
Tell them, “I wish to make an APPOINTMENT to EXCHANGE my CURRENCY.”
 
            They will ask you your name, Zip Code, and the type, amount, and denominations of Currency which you hold for Exchange. IMPORTANT: Use “Iraqi Dinar,” “Vietnamese Dong,” “Zimbabwe Dollars,” “ Indonesian Rupiah,” etc. as appropriate. These correct terms mark you as an educated customer and not some hobo or clueless person.  They don’t like those…
 
                When you make your appointment they will give you a location based on your ZIP, convenience, safety, and the amount of your Exchange. Make sure you get good directions and ask about parking, safety, etc. They want you SAFE! 
 
There will be a u.s. marshal or other security in the room with you as witnesses.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
What to bring
 

  • Yourself, neatly dressed for business, with a professional / friendly air.
  • Your currency.
  • ID. Gov’t picture ID (Driver’s license /  Valid Passport.)
  • Utility bill, etc. showing your name and current address.
  • Purchase Receipts, gifting letters. For just a bill or two, may not be necessary. They will validate all currency. The US Treasury tracks all Dinar and possibly the others. There has been a problem with Overprinting of Dinar by Bad Guys so they will be sure yours is legitimate.
  • ASK THEM WHAT THEY WILL WANT!

 
Thus I believe we will find W-F staff at our Exchange courteous and helpful and nowhere near as predatory as has been the case until only weeks ago. They understand that, yes, they want W-F to make money, but Job One is to get this money into our hands and out into the world doing Good. In just a few short weeks I have changed my attitude from suspicious Defense to co-operative Partnership.  And since I anticipate that, so it will be.
 
So I plan to go in as relaxed as possible and work out basic terms and park my funds in new accounts at their bank; later I will move some to other banks for the protection of diversity.
 
We have been told the banks understand that the soulless crushing rule of the Fed and the cabal bankers is over; and that they will have new, fairer programs for us to consider. We won’t know what the first of these is until we are at the bank, and more will surely follow. Be alert and get information!
 
Make sure you read all documents completely. Sign in wet blue ink and make sure they do. Keep an original and ask for copies before you leave. Of course ,get some business cards from them.
 
 
 
They will count and Validate your currency
 
Make sure you get a signed receipt
 
 
 
ACCOUNT TYPES, INTEREST & Interest Rates, and INVESTMENT
 
Banks make their money, in part, by loaning out or investing our deposits elsewhere, seeking profits. We get a very small amount of these as Interest. Previously, if the bank lost money we gave them control of in an Interest-Bearing Account, too bad for us—we lose! Further, we had no control over what they invested in; I will not agree that my funds be invested in antisocial industries and companies—most mainstream corporations, and doubtless in Dark military and fossil fuels, the list goes on and on. But because to the Great Change, there will be for-profit companies producing new, safe, positive products; and new industries started by some of us, and newly-cleaned up charities and non-profits to serve and help People, animals, the planet. FIRST. So I hope to work with Bankers –and others—along such lines.
 
Until recently, I planned to insist that initially, my funds go into Non-Interest-Bearing accounts (NIB), for the above reasons. I still may; have to see what’s up first! (see below)
 
I hear that if one has funds above maybe, $1,000,000. (and Many will at these Exchange rates), W-F will have very much higher interest rates for us long-term than we have ever heard of before! Keep eyes and mind open!
 
The big plus to Interest-Bearing accounts is, that you can follow accepted practice for wealth preservation by investing the principal, and living / giving off the interest, thus you never run out of money to use and share. There are special financial mechanisms, like Annuities, Trusts, LLCs, and more which have required the counsel of Professionals. They still do; none of us I dare say is prepared to be our own Wealth Manager (itself a foreign term, as we have been focused on Survival and Protection, not abundance and sharing! Thank God that’s over!!).
 
Here’s the catch: we need Professionals—accountants, bankers, lawyers, PERHAPS tax professionals—who are in step with this New Economy.  There won’t be many at first, for those professions are all part of the old structures biased against us and in favor of the 1% and their managers. We may find that W-F has some people we can use safely and confidently.
 
The Banker will tell you, and of course you will read on the forms, how much interest you will receive, should you decide to do so. This will likely be negotiable, depending on how much you will deposit into the Bank; how much you will leave there, and for how long.
 
INVESTMENT
 
Im My Opinion this has been a Shark Tank. Many ‘sharks’ have been or will be, fired/arrested. BUT the Markets—ALL OF THEM—have been RIGGED against us, and now everyone knows it has been all a cabal-run Racket, a Fleecing by Insider Trading  (see the recent movie, The Big Short). IMO—this includes, Stocks, Most Bonds, Currencies, Commodities, Stock Exchanges, Energies, Precious Metals. All corrupt.
 
They are being cleaned up; but to me, it’s Watch and Wait !!! NO WAY do I want to support such companies, or the banks, brokers, advisors, etc. who support them.
 
IN SHORT—“BUSINESS AS USUAL IS OVER!    !”
 
 
 
Here things may get dicey. Up until now, they would try to get you into Interest-Bearing Accounts. Sadly, these give the bank control over your money in return for that interest. They invest is as they see fit, perhaps in companies you abhor, and if they lose, you lose your money! So until I know this has changed, I will keep my money in non-interest bearing (NIB) accounts.
 
I plan to open two new accounts for each currency type I hold.
 
I will put 50% in each. One will be reserve for Taxes. NOTE: Tax policies are uncertain. I expect few if any, but it will do no harm to leave 50% in a second account until I know what if any they will be. (We will have to seek new tax professionals and attorneys, as with NESARA most of the penalty-prone laws and practice we know and loathe will be going away—how and how fast?? Keep eyes and ears Open! Learn to find good sources. Actually, the Bank may well be keeping up—they stand to get more business—and they may be less predatory than we are used to. The whole system is now based on transparency, and sneak-thieving should fade away fast. But, keep your eyes open. “Passive” will not serve you well any more! (Uh, not that it ever did—that’s how we wound up in debt and mind slavery)   :(
 
 P. O. D. (Pay on Death) Accounts]
 
Often we are told to designate all our new accounts (& maybe older if used) as P.O.D. accounts. These simply inform the bank and the government, that in the event of your death, you wish to specify that access and control of the named account should immediately pass directly to the person(s) you designate by name and contact information. (SSNs are a good idea). This enables said persons immediate and direct access to the account, almost like a simple trust. It purportedly avoids Probate, though does not avoid any debts you owe. Ask your banker for a form, or how they do it. It is said to be free for the asking. Note: This is a reported opinion, NOT legal or professional advice.
 
[size=13]http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/free-books/avoid-probate-book/chapter1-1.html[/size]
 
Recording
 
Reportedly the Bank will be recording your Exchange Appointment to ensure accuracy of the record of this important event. Inquire to be sure.
 
RATES AND NEGOTIATION
 
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[*]The only time you will be SURE of your Exchange Rate is at your Appointment. (I have worn out my calculator over this time constantly re-planning according to the latest rumors).
[*]The last two weeks, I have been hearing constantly that rates keep going UP. If true, good for us because it may be partly due to the delays!
[*]Ask to see them. Let Banker show numbers first. They will be on his screen.
[*]TWO BIG POINTS: A) I’m told the Exchange Banker has GREAT INDIVIDUAL CONTROL REGARDLESS OF OFFICIAL RATES. B) How much currency you have; your dress and professionalism; your attitude; how much you plan to leave in the bank…& for how long; and what you can sincerely say you would like to do to help others and the Earth—these are among her/his decision criteria.
[*]The bank has set rates of its own it will receive when it turns the currency in on ITS Currency Exchange! So we should request it to waive any FEE to Exchange US. It will make A LOT on the ‘back side.’ Be discreet & polite—few know these things and it will increase respect for you if you are respectful but firm. REMEMBER they want your business and you are doing THEM more of a favor than vice versa. Without your currency, they make nothing!
[*]Letting them know YOU know what’s up, and possess the power to take your business elsewhere, are VERY POWERFUL. Use Them. But always be respectful and professional. It’s called DOING BUSINESS!
[*]Typically for each currency, there are several rates. The “in-country” rate, for Iraqi, Vietnamese, etc. Citizens. Usually the lowest rate. If you are in a Group, you should not be offered a low rate—The Group has already The negotiated special rates…but they try to keep them secret!!
[*]The International Rate used in business and governmental commerce.
[*]The Market Rate sometimes offered to the US because of its (faded) international financial power. A little higher than the International rate.
[*]The Contract Rates. These are often much higher and for special & high-volume customers. You are likely in the Group, and those reported rates are here & these may vary too..we’ll just have to see. These may well require that you sign an NDA (Non-Disclosure Agreement) to obtain them. You will have to read it and sign it. It may be complex and long, but I am hearing it will be shorter and simpler. Mainly: TELL NO ONE ABOUT THE TRANSACTION; AMOUNT; DETAILS; ANYTHING. This protects the bank from hordes of the public descending on them, and it protects YOU from YOUSELF. See the SECURITY and PRIVACY points!! Notice the advice about Ego.
[*]Remember at the top it was stressed that the Family has protected these funds for Centuries so they could at last, when safe, spread them to everyone and the Earth. No promises, but sincere specific helping Projects or populations you can speak of from the heart my result in higher rates…
[*]Here are what I heard most recently; rates are $ USD for each currency unit. Consider these tentative! Use for planning. Reread the above! You may have bought more than you were gifted, and / or, branched out. I don’t know and don’t want to! But if you did: KEEP THESE PRIVATE!
Iraqi Dinar: $3.75   INTL: $ 5-6   MKT: $ 8- $9  Contract: $ 20. / $28.50
Vietnamese Dong: $0.47  INTL $5-6  Contract:  up to $20.
Indonesian Rupiah:  INTL ?$1.80   MKT ?  $ 3-5
Zimbabwe Dollar:  sucker rate: $.02-.15.  Then: $.20 - $.52 - $.65 - $1-3.00-6.50
Chinese Renminbi / Yuan: $6.50

[/list]
 
I remind you that this is all just my opinion, and all responsibility for your actions and results are yours alone
 
 
 
Finish with any negotiation before you turn over your currency; after that they won’t budge.
 
 
 
CHARITY AND GIVING / PROTECTION AND SECURITY
 
These are VITAL Matters and you need to educate and protect yourself.
 
There is good information here, among other places. http://5doutvesting.info/mybb/
 
A short overview:
 
The #1 Rule everyone agrees on! KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT! You want to stay in control, but if friends, some family, neighbors—or strangers of ANY type find out, you might be sorry or worse. Sad but true. Suddenly wealthy people are a well-known target in marketing and criminal circles.
 
#2. DON’T BE SHOWY !! Blend in, don’t stand out. Read Confessions of an Overgiver. Ask the Bank for their helpful literature (they have it!). Google lottery winners syndrome.
 
#3. Enjoy and Share—this money is gifted IMO from High Spiritual Sources, and as such, is meant to help others as well as yourself. Learn, think, be wise. Giving help is much trickier in many cases than you think. Check out The Parable of the Talents.
 
#4. Anonymous is wonderful. Use it as much as possible. (“Secret Santa” Yeah!!)
 
#5. Your ego is likely to try to go nuts on you—spending sprees, showing off, conspicuous consumption. Accept that you have an EGO—and Please Don’t make it your Wealth Manager.
 
Taxes
 
To be on the safe side, put 50% of proceeds by currency into a “Reserve for Taxes” account and don’t touch it until the tax picture is clear.
 
Legitimate secrecy and deliberate disinformation have resulted in confusion about taxes. Quite possibly there will be no Federal Income Tax to be paid; while some with suspicious motives have insisted it will be a Short-Term or Long-Term Capital Gains situation, most today say legally this is a CURRENCY EXCHANGE and not an Investment and hence does not create a “taxable event.” We should know soon. Meantime, be discreet and cautious. (NOTE the use of that CURRENCY EXCHANGE Phrase! It’s important!) NESARA calls for 14% Sales Tax on new luxury goods.
 
Your State may or may not tax the Exchange. Consult a qualified Professional.
 
NESARA
 
            You may not know what this is, or you may have decided the mainstream media, and your kids, or pastor, or even your Best Friend, who all think it’s all Conspiracy Theory, are correct. “Wrong Answer!” IT’S A LAW and EXPLAINS MUCH OF THE NEW WORLD WE LIVE IN and why it’s the biggest blessing in History! Google “History of NESARA.”
 
Beware: there is much disinfo out there as the cabal has hid this as much as they could;  it is now GAME OVER for them.
 
There is also the POSSIBILITY that soon the IRS will be DOA. It has been all along a Collection Arm for the Federal Reserve, not the Treasury Department. The Federal Reserve is was a private banking cartel, the unConstitutional, if widely unknown as such, usurpation of Congress’ sole right to create and manage our currency and financial system. The GCR/RV has been fought so hard because it exposes all the theft and control the cabal has managed to maintain since 1913, and actually long before (see NESARA). Cat is out of bag and running down the street telling everyone. The Fed and IRS are already shells, and will soon be here no longer; as cabal control of Media dissolves, they will fade away or be repurposed for the Common Good.
by Ssmith
on Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:20 pm
 
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WSOMN Call Notes 2/17/16

Camdoc: I did not see a post from a transcriber here, so I am posting my own notes.  Sorry if they are not complete.
 
[size=19]Take away info from the WSOMN today:[/size]
 
http://events.attendthisevent.com/Flyer/?eventid=81025716

 
You may not have time to negotiate, so let them know that you expect to be eligible for the contract rate, and that you will be negotiating that with a Wealth Manager as soon as possible. 
[This goes against what Ray said, which was to negotiate BEFORE you do anything else.]
 
Buy your RenMinBi at this first exchange meeting. [Probably can’t do that, see later under MCA.]
 
Iko: Also nail down the terms of your participation with that bank, at that first meeting.  Includes Zim.  Meetings will be recorded.
 
You may want to open a multi-currency at that first meeting.  Things are likely to shift within the first 72 hours.
 
Every dollar we exchange is going into the bank’s asset fund.  It will become real assets, not fiat dollars.
 
They do not want you leaving until they have receive every bit of your currency.  It is making a large asset for them.
 
Imperium:  Improves their lending reserves, drives up their ratings.  Stand tall.
 
Iko:  Yes, we are not used to being in a position of power in regards to the bank.  We are used to begging.
 
Guest: Banker said if you are going to buy any currency, get the rupiah and the dong.  A lot of the tellers don’t know about it,  The executives do. 
 
Wells Fargo does not have the dinar on the retail screen, but it does have it in the brokerage screens.
 
Blackeyed Pea:  A confidential contact said that this thing was NOT ready to go 6-7 months ago.  Iraq was not ready. They were not going to RV during Maliki.  And when Abadi came in, they would not do it because he was new.  Iraq just now, 6 months ago, is only now ready to go.  And if Iraq was not ready to go, as the lynch pin, the others involved were not ready to go.  It was impossible to go until about 6 months ago.
 
WTO accession is once a year, in June, and they have to have a tradable currency 90 days before. So that is the end of February.
 
The delay we see was really not a delay.  And it has cause the dinarians to be more seasoned, more mature, and more ready to do good with what has been entrusted to us.
 
Gerry: After you have exchanged all your currency, what leverage do you have left to get a higher rate?  You have already told them about your projects and PIF. 
 
Hold back your ZIM at that point.  Tell them that when the WF talks to you, you will gladly turn over your zim at that point, if the conditions are good.
 
Once the currency is out of your hand, you have lost leverage.
 
Iko:  If you walk into any business and say that you have 10 million dollars, and you want to do business, they will give you the best deal they can.
 
And if we are walking down the road with hundreds of millions, we will be royal.
 
You may not have as much leverage as you did that first 20 minutes, but there is a lot of ways to skin a cat. 
 
Wolfie:  I got some emails about people’s Pay it Forward, and they have some great ideas.  But many are trying to think of PIF with the mindset they have now.  And when they have their big money, they will find that they are underprepared.  Can’t think about PIF in the new world we are entering, while holding onto the mindset we have.  IT will not allow us to expand to the greatest position we can hold.  Some people are not really realizing where they are going to be and what they can do.  They are dealing with the tip of the iceberg compared to what they WILL be able to do.
 
Sit back and grab your plans again, and realize that what you will be able to do for humanity is much greater than what they are thinking now.
 
Think bigger.  What you have sent me is great.  But we can be greater.
 
Iko:  I am putting together a foundation to help veterans in crisis.  Creating drop in centers, similar to VFW posts. 
 
Jerry: Says that it is against US law to hold foreign currency in a US bank account.
 
IKO:  I have had incredible resistance to my drop in centers.  Giving away the money is absolutely necessary, but be prepared for it to be a challenge!  Petty bureaucrats who have to protect their fiefdom.  Bill Gates said the hardest thing about having your own charity is giving away money and having it get where you want it to go.
 
It is easy to give a check to a church, but setting up a foundation is difficult. It is not easy to be good in our society now.
 
Black Eyed Pea:  We hear an internet rumor that we need a contingency plan, because they will try to circumvent us.  What bank would not want to make money on us?
 
Iko: That is disinformation.  People love to wallow in their fear.  People who want to live in fear.  Same brain centers as stimulated by an orgasm are stimulated by these fear.
 
The Chinese want us to succeed. I believe this 100%.  They want us to be part of the NWO that takes care of this massive corruption. Everyone is ok with it!  Why hasn’t anyone gone after the bankers?
 
Laws protected us to get into Vietnam, but the people got into the streets and got us out. Why isn’t that happenng anymore?  The houses over  our heads and the food in our kids mouths are in danger, and nobody is reacting. 
 
Geerry: It is fear.  One person responds, and they make him an example. And no one then wants to respond.
 
Blondie: We will be able to exchange our currency.  End of story.
 
Iko: this whole thing is about getting a stable currency for oil transactions.  Oil has to become a stable commodity once again.  The RV will be the basis of that stability.  The last hold out is now the OPEC nations.  They finally told the US to go pound sand.  Russians and Chinese are ready.  OPEC is waiting to make sure they are all on the same page.  All indicators are that they are on the same page.  It is a coordination now.
 
Iko: I don’t think we have to worry about any little laws in Iraq.  The general structure is in place.  That is why we had all that great intel yesterday.  People are starting to think.
 
Guest: Multicurrency account: Someone told me that you must be a business to own one.
Banks make money by loaning money.  Take deposits 11 times .  Banks make 22 times the amount they take in.
 
Imperium:  we anticipate that this kind of fractional banking will go away.  But we don’t know what is coming.
 
Wolfie:  My cousin does not have any special connection, or even a cell phone.  He is a clerk in a store.  The rate he heard was any place from 3.45 to 3.95.  He is not an insider.  But he said that it HAS been set, but cannot verify the rate.
 
Multicurrency person:  There are three different subjects I wanted to address.  Seem unrelated but are all related.  I bank with Wells Fargo for generations, we have real estate holdings in other countries, so we have used multicurrency accounts for that.
 
Real estate in other countries require we pay taxes, maintenance, in their currency. We are not a business, we are a family.  We deposit USD in US, and it comes out the other end in their  currency.  And vice versa, when it comes to US it is converted to USD.  It is against US law to hold foreign currency in a US bank.
 
So I talked to my US banker, asked if I could get an account for Yuan, or rupiah. He said yes, but if you deposit them into US bank account, it will change to USD.
 
Multicurrency account puts USD in this end, and it can be taken out in another currency at the other end.
 
You can’t buy Yuan and hold it in a US bank.  Obama has also made I illegal to hold large amounts of currency, gold, silver, in our homes.  Executive order.  You can’t put it in a bank, and not your home, or they can confiscate it.
 
Gerry:  Texas is putting in an asset backed bank, a gold repository.
 
MCA guy:  interest bearing vs non- interest bearing.  When you put your money in an interest bearing account, bank can use it to invest. It is their money, they can lose it.  If you keep it in a non-interest bearing account, it remains YOUR money.  They can’t use it.   If you put it into a brokerage account, they can do anything they want with it. For 1% interest, they put your entire principle at risk.
 
Gerry: My trust says that the bank has no fiduciary responsibility over the account.
 
MCA guy: Fine print on the account overrides that.  Go to the bank, ask them for the paperwork you have to sign for an interest bearing account.  You will see that they have the right to invest it at their whim.
 
Blondi: yes, that is true, I did that.
 
MCA:  They have to separate value and price. Consider real estate.  Average home in 1960 costs the same ounces of gold today as it did then.  Buying power of gold is consistent.
 
When Fed Reserve was created, dollar was pegged to gold.  25 dollars/ounce, then 35 dollars/ounce.  Price of gold changes because value of dollare changes[size=19].  Gold does not change in buying power.  It is a hedge against fluctuations of currency. We expect the value of FRNs to fall, so it is smart to buy gold to preserve the value that you have.[/size]
 
Understanding gold, MCAs, interest vs non-interest bearing accounts, and gold being a hedge, not an investment, are critical to what we are about to do.
 
Makes sense to diversity into different currencies.  Can’t do it at Wells Fargo.
 
MCA is helpful so we can wire money which comes out in another currency at the other end.  We used to have to get a cashier’s check in their currency, and mail it to them.
 
Special guest:  We are at the end of this thing, and if everything goes to plan we will be in the bank real soon.
 
Be very cautious with the exchange process. Make sure everyone has a plan of what they will do with the money.  Consider lottery winners, football players, etc.
 
This thing has been very mechanical.  Many people have blinders on, thinking that this is all about Iraq.  But if you take the blinders off and see that this is a global event, then you see all sorts of other things happening.  Iran.  The popes meeting.  It is on TV, it is in the movie theater.  It is all there.  Many do not believe in the GCR, but it is very real.
 
Gerry: I am vouching for what he knows, and it is a hell of a lot more than we know!
So I invited him to do a drive buy.
 
Special Guest: I have connections in Iraq. I speak to Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank.  I am several Intel calls.  I confirm that the rate has been set and all the cards in all the provinces have been set.
 
As of this morning Iran cards were loaded as well.  Waiting for activation date, which is real soon.
 
Iko: Has OpeC agreed?
Guest:  As far as I know, yes.
 
B:  What is your estimation of a few days?
Guest: we have all been guilty of guessing it is done.  But everything that I know is that this is done.  And are within 72 hours of this happening.  As of yesterday.  Could change.
This is Plan B #4.  It is in movie theaters, leaking out. X-files, Black list, exoge, 13 hours, everywhere.  We are absolutely at the end of this thing.  My people say that this done, they don’t see it going past this week.
 
Wolfie:  My cousin is working at the shop in Baghdad. When he says that people are using that card,  is that it?
 
Guest:  I haear that the rate is 3.61, and internationally 3.71.  And bagdad is the only place we have been waiting for.
 
Wolfie: We have been waiting for him to give us that info.
 
Spec Guest: This is biblical. We need to make sure that we pay it forward. Buy extra groceries.  Pay for other people’s bills.  Buy extra Chik fil A. 
 
Tomorrow’s call is on MCAs, gold, and it will be a free for all.  Wil be a heated discussion. 230-330 tomorrow.  One hour.
by Ssmith
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1/16/2016 Mountain Goat

Hello Everyone,

WOW ! Finally the “basket” of laws we have heard so much about for so long. 

Is this the beginning of the end?

NO Hype, NO Rumors just the FACTS.

Today’s News

Today is Saturday January 16th 2016 and yes we have officially entered the third week of the new year already and still no RV….lol…lol…. So all you intel “gurus” out there please now tell us why we have not yet been at the banks as all you have said we would many times already? You tell us to anticipate with no real proof then when it doesn’t happen you also give us no real explanation either.

I totally expect to see more and more articles talking about the Iraq currency and the “project to delete the zeros” after parliament gets this “basket” of laws completed, as I will explain today in this news letter. 


Update: Needed Laws

I want to begin today’s news with an update on the needed laws to initiate the mandates prior to any RV. I have explained to you many times already many of the needed laws for Iraq to satisfy its obligations under the mandates set forth for the phase of the Abadi government thus allow the currency reform to take place. In other words once these mandates are completed they will have nearly a “fully” implemented constitution thus a full government. This will pave the way for currency reform.

What is more amazing is that they are now coming right out and telling us what these laws are, their urgency and priority in parliament AND all this in ONE article. Kind of like giving us a summary on what they intend to do in the next 30-60 days in parliament.

So let us now pick apart the article and see if we can summarize it.

What are the laws they are talking about and what are the priorities for parliament in the next session which coincidentally begins just two days from today,  Tuesday Jan. 19th.

#1 priority is the General Amnesty law (I have not doubt they will submit this law for a final vote in the coming week if not days). I base this assumption on the many times they keep telling us this is the first priority. Why such a high priority? They know that the GW Bush administration has mandated that justice be brought to these innocent victims of the Maliki administration. This mandate was given almost 10 years ago and still is enforceable.   

I quote from the article below – “"the most important priorities of the House of Representatives in the next legislative term is the legislation of the amnesty law”

#2 priority is the Federal Court Act (this law is much needed to deal with the corruption and Maliki goons)
I quote from the article below –“ "the Federal Court Act will occupy the second stage in the hierarchy of the concerns of the Parliament during the next chapter because it arrived at the stage of voting."

#3 priority is the Conscription law (sort of like the Draft ) (needed for the National Guard law coming later)
I quote from the article below – “And come and conscription and bear arms, however, the Federal Court Rules State, among the priorities of Parliament in the legislative term.”

#4 priority is the Two Term limit – I quote from the article below – “"to pass a law to determine the state of the Prime Minister two sessions, “ (meaning a 2 term limit on prime minister which was the one position under contention by the former prime minister Nori al-Maliki, as it was not clear in the constitution that the prime minister is in fact one of the 3 presidents. Now it will be VERY clear going forward!

#5 priority is to change the Code of Criminal Procedure to approve the executions during a period not to exceed sixty days from the date of sentencing. Also to determine if this final approval will need to be ratified by the presidency or not.  In other words they do not want the prisons filled up with people on death row forever. They are trying to eliminate the overburdened system. This goes hand in hand with the General Amnesty law.

#6 priority - Resolve the Majority 2/3 Rule Dispute -To revolve disputes around the Kurdistan Alliance claim that the Court and its decisions must be by a majority while the National Alliance wants to pass decisions by a majority of two-thirds.

I quote from the article below - " It is expected that they will come to an agreement between these political blocs in the next phase of parliament, making it easier to pass laws in the process inside the Dome of the House of Representatives.”

Later legislation- 
This article is also telling us future agendas for parliamentary sessions in February. First they are telling us that Abadi has a third set of reforms coming soon. This new set of reforms this time is dealing with cleaning up parliamentary procedure. We were all wondering what this new package of reforms was going to be. If you remember Abadi’s council of ministers announced back in October there would be a third package of reforms coming out early in the new year 2016. Well….here it is !

We all know and have witnessed the lag in stalling much needed legislation over the past 5 years  Much of this was due to the Maliki syndrome and his party. Some was due to procddure. So Abadi is now going to address each of these issues causing these delays. But they tell us this all comes later in February which makes me believe the laws I mentioned above as higher priorities in this “basket” they talk about is all for a January completion. This is wow news and if they pull it off this will be in record timing for these many critical laws. Wow!

Can they do it? Will they do it?

-  I quote from the article below – “the intention of Parliament to provide a new package of reforms, beginning next February, focused on modifying its rules of procedure so as to ensure his passage of laws is far from the political consensus manner. The amendment seeks to CANCEL THE SECOND READING OF ALL LAWS, and only debates within the Committee on, and SETTING TIMETABLES TO PASS EACH LAW.

- Here comes the oil and gas law (HCL but later on– I quote from the article below – “noted a member of the national coalition headed by Iyad Allawi, that "Parliament is waiting to send the oil and gas law by the government for legislation,"

Don’t let the title of the article below fool you either. They are NOT saying these laws are already passed but rather this is only a translation issue, as we have found many times already that the various translators used are confusing everyone. You must actually read the entire article to see what it says.

Many of these so called intel “gurus” will probably just read the title and go off half cocked and tell all their listeners the Amnesty is now passed. They will say “ I saw it in an article”. …lol..lol…Well it is NOT and the article below (if you take the time to read it as all responsible intel “gurus” should do) is telling you the FACTS as to where each of these much needed pieces of legislation now stands today. It is NOT telling you they are all completed.

Article Begins

PARLIAMENT PASSES THE OPTIMISTIC "GENERAL AMNESTY" AND THE FEDERAL COURT OVER THE NEW CHAPTER      

Long-Presse / Baghdad

Heads of political blocs seek to agree on a package of laws intended to be the House of Representatives after the end of the legislative recess in the 19th of the current month.

Parliamentary Legal Committee and intends to offer (the amnesty law) to the vote, referring to the convergence of the political parties on controversial items. The Commission is also preparing to move the adoption of the law to determine the prime minister through two sessions to end the second reading. The Commission wants, in the coming period, the study of the new parliamentary reforms in order to be submitted to a vote.
And come and conscription and bear arms, however, the Federal Court Rules State, among the priorities of Parliament in the legislative term.

And it identified the Presidency of the Council of Representatives on the 19th of this January as the beginning of the second legislative season. He criticized the Congress to extend the legislative recess, but that the Legal Committee attributed this to the technical details contained in the rules of procedure of the House of Representatives.

Says MP Salim Shawki, a member of the legal committee of parliamentary, that "the most important priorities of the House of Representatives in the next legislative term is the legislation of the amnesty law after obtaining the recent substantial convergence of views between the various political blocs when reduced exceptions, which were hampering passed, to only seven ".

He adds Shawki told the "term" that "the Federal Court Act will occupy the second stage in the hierarchy of the concerns of the Parliament during the next chapter because it arrived at the stage of voting." He pointed out that "the coming days there will be talks between the national and Kurdish coalitions to agree on some points of contention."

The attention of member bloc citizen that "the dispute revolves around the Kurdistan Alliance claim that the Court and its decisions by majority while the National Alliance wants to pass decisions by a majority of two-thirds," expected for "agreement between the political blocs in the next phase, making it easier to pass the process inside the Dome of the House of Representatives."

The member of the Legal Committee to the last that the plans in the new legislative term "to pass a law to determine the state of the Prime Minister two sessions, as well as modifying the Code of Criminal Procedure to approve the executions during the period of sixty days from the date of sentencing, both ratified the presidency or not ratified."

And MP for Basra, said "the House of Representatives will present, in the coming sessions, a new reform package include the development of his work and make it easier to pass laws in a manner consistent with the challenges facing the repercussions of Iraq." He said that the Parliament is expected the government to send a package of laws such as abolishing or merging some ministries that took place earlier.

The (long), recently revealed the intention of Parliament to provide a new package of reforms, beginning next February, focused on modifying its rules of procedure so as to ensure his passage of laws is far from the political consensus manner. The amendment seeks to cancel the second reading of all laws, and only debates within the Committee on, and setting timetables to pass each law.

He speaks MP Salim Chawki for meetings between the heads of political blocs to activate the national reconciliation and the development of ideas and attitudes to create suitable for the success of the upcoming reconciliation conference environment.

And he entered the House of Representatives in the legislative recess on December 16 last, after the legislation the federal budget law for the current year, announcing that he will resume its sessions held on 16 January, but he returned and decided to extend his vacation another three days.

She attributes MP beautiful al-Obeidi, a member of the national coalition, to extend the legislative recess, "the Presidency's commitment to the Rules of Procedure which states in one of its paragraphs to hold weekly meetings, which starts from Tuesday to Monday followed by a weekly holiday and then come back after the hearings again."

She said al-Obeidi, told the (range), that "the most important point will focus on the House of Representatives in the next dismissal is pass a general amnesty law, which is complementary to national reconciliation and preparations are underway between the three presidencies have at the present time."

She noted a member of the national coalition headed by Iyad Allawi, that "Parliament is waiting send oil and gas law by the government for legislation," asserting "the pursuit of parliament in the next chapter to the organization was able to bear arms, however, state laws."

And emphasizes beautiful Obeidi MP that "it is necessary to activate the conscription law in order to integrate the factions of the popular crowd and the sons of the tribes in the Ministries of Interior and Defense," revealing "the existence of ongoing talks between the political blocs to pass these laws in the next legislative term."


Article Ends

Update: Currency Reform

I want to begin my reporting to you today for currency reform news with something that I have been saying all along will begin to trickle in once we reach mid to late January. So here it is right on time. Sometimes this news is almost predictable and that makes it kind of scary, funny in a way. Let’s hope everything else continues too on the predicted path....lol...lol...

So yesterday out pops this article (see below) to begin the process of re-education on this matter of currency reform. This article is all about preventing the fear of the citizens in accepting the new 50k notes, which I totally believe they are about to go full scale launch any day now. This is the sole purpose of the article at this time. Expect much more soon..

My advice is PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION TO ANYTHING THEY TELL US GOING FORWARD ON CURRENCY REFORM!

Some of these translations just don’t make much sense and are all garbled up. So I will try to make sense of this article and summarize it for you.

The article is first using sample citizens to illustrate the need and usefulness of the new 50k notes. They are telling us they have been printed since early November of last year.

I quote from the article below – “as easy for him to carry his salary without draw attention to him, especially as he is forced to cut large walk of the government department in which it operates and even the place which leaves his car in it. "I previously had to hide the salary black bags because the amount that Otzlmh relatively large presence of small groups of five thousand or ten thousand class be dangerous up somewhat because passers-by come to their notice my pregnancy a large amount of Mali during I came out of the circle, which makes me vulnerable to thieves, "says Mahmoud”

So you can also see by this statement the burden the citizens have carrying piles of the 3 zero notes around with them. Also we can see they are paying them in cash thus the program of the National Card (SMART card) will also eliminate the need to carry around large sums of cash and force them to use the banks (but they must trust the banks to leave the money in the account). They must implement the program first. Using any SMART care first means the citizen must set up a bank account, then sign up for the government program giving the government their bank account number so it can automatically deposit the funds in the debit account. These SMART cards have not been very successful in the past because the people first of all do not trust the banks, second they do not trust the government with their bank account information. Can you see the hurdles the CBI must overcome? Lots of great ideas but hard to implement them.

Next they are telling the citizens fear the 50k notes because the represent a salary reduction by 3% due to the economic crisis to reduce public expenditures. They then want to cope with this fear and ease its tension.

I quote from the article below – “fears of expected decline in daily wages to especially salaries and wages of government employees to reduce public expenditures”.

Next they are telling us that higher prices resulted when they say disappearance in the smaller notes such as 100, 250, 500 and the coins as merchants round up prices since they are unable to make change. This thus causes inflation since the prices are rounded up. Thus the citizen fears the 50k note will only make it yet worst and they will lose more money due to inflation. Can you see how they must feel? Can you empathize?

Then they told us the issuance of the 50k notes will facilitate daily trading in large trades by contributing significantly to the reduction of the money supply by almost half as the banknote 25k value category can be substituted 2 X 25k = one 50k. So once again we see the CBI targeting the reduction in currency in circulation as they previously told us 40 trillion dinars are now in circulation in other articles in the past and they need to reduce it by half to 20 trillion dinars. Remember the value of your currency is partly determined by how much you have in circulation. Can you see what the CBI is doing to help raise the value of the dinar and why the 50k notes are to pave the way to the project to delete the zeros?

Article Begins

THE APPLICATION OF THE LAW OF THE FISH: THE ISSUANCE OF LARGE DENOMINATION THREATENS SMALL      

  2016-01-15 | (Voice of Iraq) – Baghdad
after the Iraqi Central Bank to issue currency category (50) thousand dinars began increasing people's fears of extinction of small currency and rising prices again .....surprised by Mohammed Mahmoud, a monthly salary received by the existence of a new class of securities, a fifty-category thousand Iraqi dinars, which the Central Bank of Iraq announced his intention printed in atheist tenth of the month of November to November last.

Mahmoud His high salary relatively believes in the existence of this currency as easy for him to carry his salary without draw attention to him, especially as he is forced to cut large walk of the government department in which it operates and even the place which leaves his car in it. "I previously had to hide the salary black bags because the amount that Otzlmh relatively large presence of small groups of five thousand or ten thousand class be dangerous up somewhat because passers-by come to their notice my pregnancy a large amount of Mali during I came out of the circle, which makes me vulnerable to thieves, "says Mahmoud. But some believe that the new with the fifty thousand class paper would hurt a lot Boodall living like Ali Abdul Sattar, who works daily wages in the capital Baghdad Secretariat. young man Ali, who receive a daily ten thousand Iraqi dinars allocated amount thousand dinars them to go back and forth from his home to the Secretariat building and vice versa

He fears that the freight rise in one of the road than five hundred dinars to the ground which means doubling the sum earmarked for the transfer with the expected decline in the daily wages to him, according to the approved by the government to reduce public expenditures, especially salaries and wages of its employees by three percent. In practical terms there is nothing to confirm fears but he cites the high transport fares from 250 dinars to 500 dinars when printed banknote with twenty-five thousand class a few years ago. "We had coins of small denominations It is the same categories Coins (25) dinars and 100 dinars and no longer exists today basically, "says Ali. disappearance of these currencies of daily trading means directly a rise in the price of cheap goods to the highest in turn affect the inflation index in the country, which will be levels its effects are clear to those with middle and low income mainly.

Valslah that were sold, for example, (250) dinars price could rise to (500) which means a decrease in the value of one thousand dinars unit approximate to measure the prices in the local market to half (one thousand dinars, equal to almost 0 0.8 US dollars). Central Bank of Iraq began distributing small quantities of the new currency on some state departments and some banks to gradually raise the amount even access to the size decision. Economists and although they do not see a direct correlation between the issuance of large groups of currency and the depreciation of small groups, but they reckon check the decline actually what they describe temperament Iraqi market and the consumer alike. "The Iraqi market is not subject to the standards of their counterparts in the rest of the world is well known that the version of the big groups come to reduce the money supply, especially in the corporate and business big trades and other segments of ".. says economic researcher Bassam As.

He adds as" there is a mood in the local market back consumer desire primarily to the reduction of the value of small groups in the case of large groups became circulation significantly and this is what is difficult to explain in reality. "According to the researcher himself the solution is to keep large groups currencies for the enjoyment of its benefits in the big trade with the continuation of the Central Bank of Iraq in small groups issuing currency to keep it fresh in daily transactions and strengthened procedures challenge of any expected price inflation. The presence of cash and paper category (50) thousand dinars any equivalent to $ (42) US $ will facilitate daily trading in large trades by contributing significantly to the reduction of the money supply by almost half as the banknote Top previously value was of category (25) thousand. While the continued issuance of categories Currency Small will maintain the value of goods low prices and prevent high prices.

The central bank for his part did not rule out the domestic market affected by the issuance of a new currency with the fifty thousand class therefore decided to wait in the same hundred thousand dinars category approved by the former to avoid any inflation, currency issuance, while the objective of the the issuance of the fifty thousand class was reducing the size of the currency used in daily trading, which in turn led to the lifting of the rate of inflation, according to the announcement earlier in the bank's governor on the Keywords. In all cases, the new currency was issued and began to spread in the local market gradually as planned central bank is to spread caution reflects to some extent fears of currency in circulation subject to the law, which feared fish middle and low income earners in the case of the big ate the small currency counterpart and was replaced in the local market.
 

Article Ends

Article Begins

THE CENTRAL BANK PLANS TO UNIFY THE EXCHANGE RATE OF THE DOLLAR SOLD IN THE AUCTION AND THE MARKET      

BAGHDAD / JD / ..
Revealed to the economic and investment commission in Parliament about the government's determination obliging the Central Bank of the consolidation of the dollar exchange rate in the auction sold the domestic market, likely raising the value of the dollar against the dinar in the shadow of the financial crisis in the country.

He said committee member Rep. Najiba Najib told / JD / that there is an urgent need for the government to reconsider the monetary policy of the country, the fact that there is a real rate of the dinar against the US dollar because of the current dinar price of 1,166 is the same as when it was sold for a barrel of oil for $ 111.

She added that the financial crisis facing the country as a result of the drop in oil prices to unprecedented levels require the lifting of the dollar exchange rate against the dinar and will resort to it the government requiring the central bank in addition to the UNIFICATION OF THE EXCHANGE RATE AT THE CENTRAL BANK AUCTION AND IN THE LOCAL COMMERCIAL MARKET, where the dollar exchange rate at auction Central dinars in 1190, while the market in 1240 dinars.


Article Ends

This article is proof that Iraq is filthy rich. So what are they doing by always making out to be poor? Are they attempting to grab as much as they can until they can RV ? When will they stop feeling sorry for themselves in post war atmosphere and grow up as a nation? This article tells it all. They are filthy rich!

Article Begins

US REPORTS: BAGHDAD CAN SECURE THE THREE-YEAR BUDGET WITHOUT THE SALE OF OIL      

Twilight News / reported many US media reports confirm that the size of the former senior officials in Iraq and the Kurdistan Regional Government accounts up to $ 220 billion, pointing out that this amount is enough to cover the next three years the budget without selling even barrels of oil one.

For its part, state media said local Iraqi, revealed that former senior officials accounts, whether in Iraq or in the province of Kurdistan in international banks is a cause for concern, stressing the need not to Iraqis survival and the international community silent and know that the Iraqis fortunes go years ago to the pockets of senior Iraqi officials.

According to US reports, the total amount deposited by former officials in Iraq and the region reached $ 220 billion, which means that it is enough to secure Iraq's budget for three years without selling a single barrel of oil.


Article Ends

Update: Fighting ISIS

I hear lots of questions on these forums about fighting ISIS and whether Mosul must be first taken prior to any RV. I can see this question comes on the heals of the article below from Barzani, Kurdistan that states it will be at least 6 months before the battle to retake Mosul can begin.

I quote from the article below – “He added, "from my point of view I'm not sure that the Iraqi army will be ready six months from now before”

To explain this first let me say this question is being asked purely in fear based of having to wait yet longer for an RV. Again the person who asks just wants a date and a rate. Not a good attitude to have when trying to learn about this country.

Since I am not a date and a rate person there is only one way I can answer this question.

There will be NO RV until ISIS and DAASH are out of Iraq ! This is not rumor or conjecture but mandated policy. The UN, GB and USA will not sign off on international article 8 progression without it due to security reasons. Sorry!

Knowing all this  its time for you to begin reading the news articles and follow along like the rest of us to learn what is really happening in Iraq to see if Mosul can be taken or will be taken prior to the 6 months as stated. Remember nothing is written in stone and many options are always available. I also just pointed out to you that a new US commander, General J Votel, is to take over leadership in Iraq. Can you put 2 + 2 together?  Why at this critical junction? Why did Army Gen. Lloyd Austin, decide to retire at this time?

Article Begins

ARMY GEN. JOSEPH VOTEL WOULD TAKE OVER LEADERSHIP OF US CENTRAL COMMAND IN IRAQ

Defense Secretary Ash Carter announced Thursday that the general who heads his special operations forces will be nominated as the next commander for the Middle East.

Army Gen. Joseph Votel would take over leadership of US Central Command, which oversees military operations in Iraq and Syria against the Islamic State Group. He would succeed Army Gen. Lloyd Austin, who is retiring.

Carter announced the decision at Central Command headquarters in Tampa, standing alongside Votel. He was in town to meet with his commanders about how the fight against IS will take shape this year.
Votel, 57, is a former commander of the 75th Ranger Regiment and a veteran of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. He headed the secretive Joint Special Operations Command before taking over Special Operations Command in 2014.

Austin, who currently heads the military’s Central Command (CENTCOM) overseeing Middle East operations, made the argument Thursday that recent IS-claimed attacks like the ones this week in Istanbul and Jakarta are in fact evidence the group is faltering.

“ISIL has assumed a defensive posture in Iraq and Syria,” Austin said at a news conference in Florida.
“Going forward, we can expect to see him rely increasingly on acts of terrorism such as we saw this week in Baghdad and in Turkey, and most recently in Jakarta,” he added.
The IS group, which swept through vast regions of Iraq and Syria in 2014 and 2015 and captured a string of cities, has seen recent setbacks across its self-proclaimed caliphate, including the loss of the key Iraqi city of Ramadi to US-supported local forces.

A US-led coalition has also been hammering the group’s oil infrastructure, including by blowing up hundreds of trucks used to ferry illicit crude oil around Syria, and this week bombed a financial facility in the Iraqi city of Mosul that US officials said held millions of dollars in cash.

Austin, who has headed CENTCOM since March 2013 and will shortly be stepping down, said the IS group is upping its overseas actions to distract from such losses.
“ISIL wants to draw attention away from the growing number of setbacks” that it is experiencing,” Austin said, using an alternative name for the IS group.

“It is important to understand that these terrorist acts don’t necessarily mean ISIL is getting stronger,” he added.
“ISIL by its nature is a terrorist organization and by conducting these attacks, he is attempting to produce an image of invincibility in the wake of setbacks. So overall, we are making progress.”


Article Ends

Article Begins

NECHIRVAN: LOOKING BACK ALL THE TERRITORIES, "KURDISH" AND THE BATTLE OF MOSUL WILL NOT START BEFORE 6 MONTHS      

Friday January 15.2016

Nechirvan Barzani, Prime Minister of Kurdistan Region of Iraq, said that the battle of Mosul will not be easy for a number of considerations such as the city announced, including the so-called "Caliphate State" which is very important for the organization, "Daash."

This came in an interview to Barzani with CNN, where "I personally do not think that the battle of Mosul are easy, they are a tough city, what happened in Ramadi was a great success for the Iraqi army, BUT THE SITUATION IN MOSUL IS VERY DIFFICULT, BECAUSE THE SUCCESSION DAASH ANNOUNCED IN MOSUL AND FOR THEM IS VERY IMPORTANT AND SO ARE IMPORTANT TO US TOO."

He added, "from my point of view I'm not sure that the Iraqi army will be ready six months from now before .. As a result of the assistance provided by the international coalition, especially from the United States were able to get them started (Daash) to retreat."

He added, "Now we were able to retrieve all the land Martyrs are also in control of the areas we have no interest in them, but we do it on behalf of the Iraqi army, such as Mosul Dam”.

And about reports of the use of Daash for children between his recruits, Barzani said," yet we were able to save 2,400 people, half of them children, and with our limited capabilities we were able to establish a center Rehabilitation in the region, but of course, this is not enough we need help from the international community and experts in order to rehabilitate these people.”


Article Ends

One more item today:

Let’s not forget to keep praying for the success of THESE IRAQI AND COALITION SOLDIERS. I believe their success is in part some of the acceleration of the process we are now witnessing. 

“Lord, protect Abadi and all who stand with him in righteousness, the Iraq and Coalition Soldiers who are fighting the good fight against terrorism, that they would be shielded from the enemy and would be Victorious against them! We ask that the Victory comes swiftly and healing of the Iraqi peoples and all whom have been effected by these evil doers can begin!

We pray for the process of the currency reform, the full implementation of  the Iraqi economy to full  international status and the bringing of prosperity and wealth to its people“  Amen!

Till next time…. Auf Wiedersehen!

Peace and Luv To Ya All, 
Mnt Goat
by Mountain Goatee
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1/10/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

 Guru Bluwolf Did you notice the euro went down at closing today, hint #1...Greece signed bailout,hint #2...Italys pm steps down hint #3...Fema test,,,, jejeje now this was a good signal-hint #4. Imo if I had more specific info I would call in this baby... Soon as in tomorrow maybe... it will just pop into the picture.

Guru Frank26:  How many of you saw me ask DELTA to buy me a car last week? Not too many jumped on this. They were selling cars for 16,000 dinars. You may say so what. I may say ………go find out what they were selling for in November. If you don’t have a Team in Iraq try googling it.
Ali’s prices have gone up three or four times in the last two weeks. LOL……..we don’t need no stinking articles.

Guru OkieOilMan:  my intel still states it happened friday–as to why we are not seeing it on the screens —i have no idea

for all you loppster fans out there–if you look at the dong and other asian countries–then the lop theory applies—but don’t apply to iraq

you guys are helping to write history when you invested in the dinar–the usd you paid for dinar with is helping to build a country–how many people do you know that can say—i helped build a country?–even tho you invested to make money–the side issue of establishing a new gov and country was probably the farthest thing from your mind you have served a purpose far greater than your own interests are concerned

we invested 1 1/2 trillion dollars and over 5000 dead soldiers to make this happen–not to mention the thousands of maimed soldiers–so the u s a deserves to be re-paid–remember bush stating–this war will pay for itself?


Guru Enorrste:  Finally, even though we heard the budget was read 3 times and even published apparently they needed to make some changes due to complaints from the Kurds. This has now apparently been worked out but they will have to do the readings and publishing again, as I see it.
Therefore, look to see lots coming out from Parliament this coming week. Hopefully by the end of this coming week we should get our prize
by Ssmith
on Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:24 am
 
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1/4/16 Martha

ssmith wrote:Monday Evening news from Martha:


Good afternoon.Well thanks for updates but point is is that the ptb,again don't want to go down without a battle
Well,China has said "screw you" and now you are going to learn a lesson.I hope it doesn't take too long.

More like China has said "We're screwed."

The big guys who continue to steal from our accounts are done for.
I feel sorry for the innocent people of US but if they had taken blinders off and woken up,this could have been stopped.We all talk about it BUT talk is cheap.


The PTB are doing nothing to stop anything, because nothing is happening for them to stop. Blinders on or off, it does not matter there is nothing to see.



All I can say is be prepared for what maybe total shut down of the US banking and stock market.
Remember we are still in the Shemitah and this past summer/fall,China and the BRICS showed what could happen but I feel they tempered it.Today they are ready to destroy us,so we can rise from the ashes to a new world so to speak.


Not gonna happen. China is on the ropes economically, and seem unable to cope. Their domestic production is down, their exports are down, there is an ongoing purge ... just how bad things are is hard to say, China is still very much a closed society, and all news and media outlets are tightly controlled by the central government. As to the rest of the BRICS, collectively they are nothing but a small time players. They all need us and our money a whole lot more than we need them and their products..


Watch ALL their actions.I saw reference to Reno.Someone asked me why Reno.Almost 2 years ago my business partner spent 3 weeks out there trying to connect with the Admirals group which did not happen.Reno is the home of Wells Fargo currency center for Western US and I believe far East.I also believe San Francisco is another link for the far East as well.Follow the money.


Lie, lie, lie. There are no major offices in Reno, The only office there is a regional office for their mortgage subsidiary.


Wells Fargo has THE contract for the exchange thus I would have to say that there is not an issue with bail - ins at this bank.


Realize that the rates are locked in as of 12-25.Also several months ago an excellent 13 page booklet was on recaps about the BRICS Alliance and the Dragon family and the return of the gold standard.Besides the excellent history,the rates were posted with international,market,and contract.There were those who insisted that this whole booklet was bogus but I must say that it is almost 100 percent point on

[b]I would say those who insisted the booklet was bogus were the ones who were 100% pint on. No Dragons, no Gold Standard and the BRICS alliance is a non starter as a power.

[/b]If you are going to ask my plan about the bail- ins it is very simple.



#1 Wells Fargo to exchange



#2 Don't wait for basket 2 and 3-only international rates and they mat only be a little bit higher than rv - they will be locked and not float.


#3 take contract rates and run!

#4 at this time the collateral world funds have not been fully signed off so I wouldn't sit back and wait.


#5 use non interest bearing accts and don't let them sweep the accts just yet.


#6 we are exchanging asset back to asset back currency.Banks can only use fiat currency for bail ins


#7 protect the money - insure it with cdars,ins policy aka Loyd of London and place under a trust,llc,foundation.


#8 taxes- currency exchanges are tax free events in most states.The dinar is considered an investment currency but is it? Say "NO" you are only exchanging it.Dont get tripped up the banksters.It is NOTB.

Keep it simple.2 years ago,I set a plan in place and I was told to stick to it.As many times,I thought about changing it,I didnt.I just added to it.I am not a greedy person and I  have no desire to play the currency market.I did years ago and lost thousands and over a million with a group that the FBI wouldn't do anything about.


Well that last sentence about sums up the value of your advice and intel. One thing different, the FBI is probably looking at your lying and pumping as we speak.
by Kevind53
on Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:01 pm
 
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1/4/16 Martha

Monday Evening news from Martha:


Good afternoon.Well thanks for updates but point is is that the ptb,again don't want to go down without a battle
Well,China has said "screw you" and now you are going to learn a lesson.I hope it doesn't take too long.
The big guys who continue to steal from our accounts are done for.
I feel sorry for the innocent people of US but if they had taken blinders off and woken up,this could have been stopped.We all talk about it BUT talk is cheap.


All I can say is be prepared for what maybe total shut down of the US banking and stock market.Remember we are still in the Shemitah and this past summer/fall,China and the BRICS showed what could happen but I feel they tempered it.Today they are ready to destroy us,so we can rise from the ashes to a new world so to speak.


Watch ALL their actions.I saw reference to Reno.Someone asked me why Reno.Almost 2 years ago my business partner spent 3 weeks out there trying to connect with the Admirals group which did not happen.Reno is the home of Wells Fargo currency center for Western US and I believe far East.I also believe San Francisco is another link for the far East as well.Follow the money.


Wells Fargo has THE contract for the exchange thus I would have to say that there is not an issue with bail - ins at this bank.


Realize that the rates are locked in as of 12-25.Also several months ago an excellent 13 page booklet was on recaps about the BRICS Alliance and the Dragon family and the return of the gold standard.Besides the excellent history,the rates were posted with international,market,and contract.There were those who insisted that this whole booklet was bogus but I must say that it is almost 100 percent point on
If you are going to ask my plan about the bail- ins it is very simple.


#1 Wells Fargo to exchange



#2 Don't wait for basket 2 and 3-only international rates and they mat only be a little bit higher than rv - they will be locked and not float.


#3 take contract rates and run!

#4 at this time the collateral world funds have not been fully signed off so I wouldn't sit back and wait.


#5 use non interest bearing accts and don't let them sweep the accts just yet.


#6 we are exchanging asset back to asset back currency.Banks can only use fiat currency for bail ins


#7 protect the money - insure it with cdars,ins policy aka Loyd of London and place under a trust,llc,foundation.


#8 taxes- currency exchanges are tax free events in most states.The dinar is considered an investment currency but is it? Say "NO" you are only exchanging it.Dont get tripped up the banksters.It is NOTB.

Keep it simple.2 years ago,I set a plan in place and I was told to stick to it.As many times,I thought about changing it,I didnt.I just added to it.I am not a greedy person and I  have no desire to play the currency market.I did years ago and lost thousands and over a million with a group that the FBI wouldn't do anything about.
by Ssmith
on Mon Jan 04, 2016 8:21 pm
 
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Currency exchange scandal by PayPal, Amazon and eBay With Millions in Iranian Rial Sales

Currency exchange scandal by PayPal, Amazon and eBay With Millions in Iranian Rial Sales



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Expose : PayPal, Amazon and eBay Iranian Rial Scandal with Millions of Sales
Whether knowingly or not, Americans are illegally buying Iranian Rial, while eBay, Amazon and PayPal are helping them in open defiance of U.S. law and international sanctions against Iran. In fact, these U.S-based illegal Rial sales appear to amount to more than $1,900,000 during the past 90 days alone.
See the full text of the President’s Executive Order here
In particular, Section 2 (i) says it’s illegal and they are guilty of violating the sanctions:
(i) that the person has materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods or services to or in support of, any Iranian person included on the list of Specially Designated Nationals and Blocked Persons maintained by the Office of Foreign Assets Control (SDN List) (other than an Iranian depository institution whose property and interests in property are blocked solely pursuant to Executive Order 13599 of February 5, 2012) or any other person included on the SDN List whose property and interests in property are blocked pursuant to this paragraph or Executive Order 13599 (other than an Iranian depository institution whose property and interests in property are blocked solely pursuant to Executive Order 13599);
So, why aren’t these companies being held accountable for violating the Executive Order?
When Americans buy Iranian Rial through sellers with listings on eBay, Amazon and other platforms, PayPal processes the transactions, and thus provides the Iranian government with access to American cash via currency smugglers and organized crime. Yet, according the U.S. government, Iran is still a “state sponsor of terrorism”See the U.S. State Department’s terrorist list here.
Right now, without any checks or balances you could set up an eBay account for an Iranian Terrorist sell Illegal Rial and process the payments via PayPal! Does anyone else see a problem with this?

PayPal, Amazon And eBay Currency Exchange Fraud Exposed. Check Out The Whole Story : Section 1 To 7

#1:Why does licensing…#2:There is no legal….#3:Economic Sanctions?..#4:Evidence of illegal..#5:Are Americans wh..#6:Why U.S. corporati…#7:The Iranian Rial’s…
 

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SECTION 1: Why does licensing and regulation matter in currency sales? See the 7 reasons


Take a look below at the licensing required for legitimate businesses to sell currency both Federal and State requirements are not met by eBay and Amazon sellers. FinCen is a department in the US Treasury that regulates financial services companies. Unlike the State Licensing, FinCen doesn’t require companies to undergo an approval process. Any firm can register with them in about 20 minutes.

1. FinCen Regulates The Following Transactions:

Transactions that exceed $1,000 per customer within a 24 hour period. If a dealer conducts any transaction that exceeds $1,000 in an individual transaction or multiple transactions of the same buyer that exceed $1,000 within a 24 hour period, the following information must be kept and stored in the event of a FinCen audit:

  1. Customer Name
  2. Customer mailing address
  3. Customer Social Security Number
  4. Government Issued ID
  5. Currencies the customer is purchasing
  6. Gross profit on transaction
  7. Date of order
  8. What the customer paid with
  9. OFAC Check

The records of these transactions must be held on file for 5 years.
FinCen also scrutinizes all transactions exceeding $10,000. The regulator requires all of the information listed above, in addition to a CTR filed with FinCen. A CTR (Cash Transaction Report), where FinCen wants all the details entered into their database for review.
FinCen also requires a SAR (Suspicious Activity Report) to be completed in some instances. This form must be filled out for any transactions that may arouse suspicions due to potential irregularities. It must be submitted to FinCen immediately.
There are multiple listings on eBay exceeding the FinCen limits without proper record keeping or filing.
The sellers that are violating these rules on eBay, Amazon, and PayPal are not registered with the UST. It’s impossible to comply with the FinCen record keeping regulations while selling currencies in a third party marketplace without access to customer data. Since the customers are virtually anonymous, sellers are unable to collect the customer’s social or Government issued ID.
Sellers that violate FinCen reporting and record keeping rules and regulations are committing a Felony and subject to a $5,000 fine. Thousands of these transactions have happened on eBay, Amazon, and through PayPal. Since these companies facilitate the transaction, they are also guilty of failing to comply and risk facing the same penalties.

2. State Licensing Requirements

Over 20 US States require people that sell currency to be licensed by their state financial regulators. The state licensing process is in-depth with no guarantee of approval. Unlike the FinCen registration that virtually any seller of a currency can be approved for, the State licensing is much more stringent.
Every state has different approval requirements, but the following requirements generally apply:

  • Complete AML program
  • Have a full-time Chief Compliance Officer
  • Meet minimum business net worth requirements
  • Complete certified financial audits by a CPA
  • Undergo a criminal background check via the FBI
  • Fingerprinting placed on file
  • In-depth analysis of business activities, websites, office locations and other assets
  • Be bonded and Insured. (An expensive process that can easily cost over $100k per year)
  • Submit application fee (some states don’t charge a fee while others charge over $10,000)
  • List of Agents (People that sell under your licensing)
  • Monthly, Quarterly, BiAnnual, Or Annual reporting. Typically gross amount sales and gross amount earned from the exchange

Conclusion: State licensing is extremely expensive and time consuming. None of these eBay sellers meet the licensing requirements, therefore they are operating illegally in these states and using eBay, Amazon and PayPal to illegally distribute currencies.
Penalties for violating state regulations are very harsh and in some cases require violators to refund 100% of the proceeds to their customers. In addition, regulators can impose severe fines and ban companies from operating in the state altogether or even file criminal charges.

3. AML Compliance

Since the penalties for violating these regulators are so strict, companies are required to have an AML (Anti Money Laundering) program. This provision of an AML program can be anywhere from 5 pages to 500 pages depending on the size of the company and the depth of their network.
The AML program explains internal company processes to combat money laundering, including compliance collection and reporting.

4. Agency Relationships

Agency relationships allow companies to operate non MSBs / unlicensed state currency exchanges under their license, which means the company is responsible for their activities and in most cases the fulfillment of the product being sold.
In order to be an agent of another organization’s license, an entity must undergo the same in-depth, due diligence process that applies to license holders, because they are accepting liability for all of those agents. If an agent goes rogue, then the license holder will face the same consequences.
A good example of an agency relationship is Western Union and Publix Supermarkets. Publix sells the WU services to their consumers and Publix receives a share of the profits, without having to be licensed themselves. WU will hold the licensing, handle reporting, compliance, etc. Agents allows MSB’s to scale their operations, but it’s up to the MSB to be selective with their agents due to the immense risk.
eBay, Paypal, and Amazon may be properly licensed, but they facilitate illegal currency transactions on their platforms. None of these companies would extend their licensing via an agency relationship with a small time marketplace seller, especially when these sellers are selling the currency from countries listed on the Terrorist Sanction list and are processing transactions that exceed reporting thresholds without complying with the FinCen KYC requirements or state licensing compliance requirements (which have no minimum reporting requirements).

5. Banking Regulations

Getting legal, banking as a Money Service Business (MSB) is a tough ordeal for new and established companies alike. Due to the account risks and the repercussions, if the bank collaborates with a poor or fraudulently operated MSB, significant fines and criminal felonies can be brought against all parties involved, including the bank. These eBay and Amazon sellers are not registered or licensed, their banks almost certainly do not know what they are processing for. Businesses that lie to their bank about the nature of their business are committing felonies (bank fraud), so eBay and PayPal are aiding and abetting additional criminal activity every time they allow that seller to withdraw funds to their bank for illegal currency transactions.

6. Consumer Risk

Consumers could also be harmed by illegal transactions. The State licensing and FinCen was put in place to combat illegal financial services companies and money laundering.
Most consumers probably have no idea that it is illegal to own or purchase the Iranian Rial and that they could be funding terrorist activities by doing so.
It’s not the consumer’s responsibility to understand the complexities of the money services industry. Sellers should be expected to operate within the law, but many are clearly failing to do so.

7. Source of Currency

The source of the currency is another major compliance hurdle that compliant company takes very seriously. They go to great lengths to make sure they are buying currency from legitimate sources that are not involved with terrorism or other illegitimate activities. Since no legitimate source sells the Iranian Rial, the seller, their bank, eBay, Amazon and PayPal are at risk.
 

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SECTION 2: There is no legal way to import currency from Iran: See the 4 points given

One investigator conducted a test and contacted various online suppliers and asked them to supply the Iranian Rial. One anonymous person was contacted who said he could obtain Rial. Here is a screenshot the corresponding message exchange over WhatsApp:
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This dealer clearly admits the currency is smuggled through Jordan and then onward to the U.S.
American investors who buy Iranian Rial may be naive or unaware that the economic sanctions against Iran are still in force and legally prohibit them from buying or possessing IRR…
Yet, PayPal and other major corporations that should be savvy enough to understand financial regulations are openly ignoring the U.N. and U.S. government sanctions, while profiting from the booming online Rial trade.
Either U.S. government watchdogs haven’t noticed that Americans are eager to buy Rial, or else they’ve decided to overlook PayPal and other corporate scofflaws as they continue to break the sanctions against Iran.
Why are these corporations, special? Others have been prosecuted for similar offenses Here is a list of some companies that have violated the sanctions.

1. It’s still illegal to buy Iranian Rial

Right now, the Iranian Rial is being sold widely even though it’s illegal, even though as of August 2015, Americans cannot legally purchase IRR. Yet, U.S. authorities are overlooking these sales.
Until the sanctions are lifted or the authorities act to stop illegal currency sales, the booming U.S. black market in Rial will continue to thrive.

2. A long history of economic sanctions against Iran

Many governments and international agencies have imposed strong economic and financial sanctions against Iran over the years, and these sanctions are still supposed to be enforced. However, at least with regard to Americans who are eager to buy Iranian Rial, the sanctions are being overlooked.
The U.S. was the first nation to place sanctions on Iran after the Iranian Revolution in 1979, and has led the efforts in enforcing international restrictions ever since.
In 1995, before any serious concerns arose over nuclear proliferation, the U.S. government expanded its original import-export sanctions to prohibit companies from doing business with the Iranian government.
The U.S. has led an international effort to use economic and financial sanctions to influence Iranian policymakers.
U.S. policymakers want Iran to abandon its uranium enrichment projects, which the U.S. and other world powers fear might be used to produce nuclear weapons.
The United Nations Security Council has coordinated with the United States to enact a long list of sanctions against Iran over the years.
In 2006 the Security Council issued Resolution 1696which requested that the Iranian government stop its uranium enrichment activities.
Resolution 1737 was passed shortly thereafter, which changed the UN’s effort from a request to a demand, and imposed sanctions against nuclear-related business activities. This regulation also froze the assets of certain key companies and individuals involved with the Iranian nuclear projects.
Those sanctions were followed by Resolution 1747 in 2007, which imposed an arms embargo, the freezing of Iranian assets and further prohibited financial dealings between Americans and Iranian businesses and organizations.
Following the UN action was Security Council Resolution 1803 in 2008. This extended the asset freezing even further and required states to monitor activities of Iranian banks and financial institutions.
Subsequent Resolutions strengthened the sanctions, including Resolution 1835 in 2008, Resolution 1929 in 2010 and Resolution 1984 in 2011. These additional sanctions were designed to further tighten the noose around the Iranian economy.
In 2012, the Security Council passed Resolution 2049, which extended the mandate period for the Iran Sanctions Committee for another year.
Beyond the U.S., the European Union and various other countries have imposed their own complementary sanctions against Iran, because of its nuclear development program.
In 2012, the EU agreed to impose an oil embargo against Iran, and freeze certain Iranian central bank assets on deposit in Europe.
In that same year, nearly all Iranian banks were disconnected from SWIFT, the world’s electronic inter-bank communications platform.
Australia and Canada also independently imposed financial restrictions and other sanctions against Iran.
These sanctions were all intended to strangle the Iranian economy and force the Iranian leadership to heed the demands of the U.S. government.
Yet, the sanctions are being ignored by those Americans who are eager to buy Iranian Rial.

3. Sanctions were meant to impact the Iranian Rial and the economy

From the beginning, the U.S. government and its allies designed the sanctions to have maximum impact on Iran’s economy and currency. Story from Bloomberg Business.
The U.S. specifically targets the Iranian Revolutionary Guards and other governmental-business entities, which control much of Iran’s national commerce.
As indicated earlier, at first the U.S. targeted the Iranian oil and petrochemical industries, including efforts to reduce oil exports. The restrictions were gradually expanded to impact the entire Iranian economy.
Over time the restrictions against interacting with the Iranian financial system have become nearly seamless in their coverage.

4. Here are the activities specifically outlawed under various provisions of often-overlapping sanctions-


  • Invest in Iran, which means buying the Iranian Rial
  • Deposit money or maintain money in the Iranian banking system, which includes Americans buying and holding the Rial
  • Import any goods or valuables from Iran, which happens when dealers sell the Rial to Americans
  • Facilitate any kind of trade with Iran, including buying Iranian products such as physical Rial currency

Logically, these successive layers of restrictions and sanctions apply to all forms of Iranian banking and financial transactions, including currency sales in which Americans buy Rial from dealers online or in person.
 

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SECTION 3: Economic Sanctions? Not When You Buy Iranian Rial Using eBay, Amazon or PayPal

The U. S. – hosted Rial marketplace is growing quickly. In fact, Rial sales on eBay alone reached over $1.9 million during the past 90 days. Investors buy the currency online from listings posted on eBay, Amazon or other platforms, then PayPal and other payment processors complete the transactions.
However, such activities clearly violate PayPal’s published Acceptable Use Policy.
In particular, as shown in the image below, Section 3 (g) of PayPal’s Policy specifically forbids transactions involving currency exchanges.
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Ordinary retail buyers shouldn’t be blamed, since the currency is being offered so widely based on the credibility of these major companies.
It’s difficult to believe that senior decision-makers at PayPal, eBay and Amazon could be unaware that illegal currency is being actively sold through their platforms.
Even worse, these companies are actively targeting consumers with advertising to achieve more sales, as shown in the screenshot of a sample advertisement below..
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For American investors already buying the Rial, the economic sanctions against Iran are irrelevant. Either nobody has told them that buying IRR or conducting any other financial business with this enemy nation is against the law or else they’re so eager to own Iranian currency that they just don’t care.
 

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SECTION 4: Evidence of illegal sales of Iranian Rial

Iranian Rial is being openly and widely sold on eBay and Amazon

Even while the sanctions against Iran supposedly continue in full effect, Americans who want to buy Iranian Rial are flocking to eBay and Amazon.
As of late August 2015 there were approximately 700 active listings on eBay through which mostly-professional sellers offer Iranian Rial banknotes to anyone who wants to buy IRR.
See the eBay listings offering Rial
Rial is also being illegally sold on Amazon
Illegal Rial sales in the U.S. appear to be growing, although the evidence is only anecdotal so far.
Here’s a sample of the sales volumes from eBay:
Rial dealer (90-day profile)Total sales volume (USD)Link to Rial dealer
yuri111633,380.56http://www.ebay.com/usr/yuri111?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
vslugmike2340,666.39http://www.ebay.com/usr/vslugmike2?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
jollywoodfilms77,560.73http://www.ebay.com/usr/jollywoodfilms?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
massuer13,276.27http://www.ebay.com/usr/massuer?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
khakius20145,927.65http://www.ebay.com/usr/khakius2014?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
fara_dara3,110.92http://www.ebay.com/usr/fara_dara?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
collectibles*plus*art3,336http://www.ebay.com/usr/collectibles*plus*art?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
mybanknotes9,187.26http://www.ebay.com/usr/mybanknotes?_trksid=p2047675.l2559
gizmo2010mike61,912.07http://www.ebay.com/usr/gizmo2010mike?_trksid=p2047

The above data were gathered from terapeak and the full sales data can be found here.
These illegal Rial sales are being conducted on the PayPal platform and underwritten by Wells Fargo. In fact, it appears that WF has been underwriting at least some portion of PayPal’s online processing business since 2002.
In spite of this obvious-thriving illicit marketplace for Iranian Rial sales, no U.S. government organization seems to be investigating the sanctions-busting Rial dealers or their customers.
 

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SECTION 5: Are Americans who buy Iranian Rial scofflaws or farsighted investors? Consider this

From the apparent volume of retail sales on eBay, Amazon and other online platforms noted above, it seems that Americans are increasingly eager to buy the Rial.
Although it’s difficult to speculate on their motives, it’s possible that they’re buying Rial for the same reasons investors have recently been buying Iraqi Dinar and other foreign currencies.
If the demographic is similar, many small-scale Rial buyers are seeking an opportunity to achieve large gains from relatively small investments.
It’s also likely that among the Americans buying the Iranian Rial online from illegal sellers at eBay and Amazon, there may be some larger, institutional investors who seek to make a “play” on the Iranian economy before the sanctions are removed.
After all, if mom-and-pop investors have noticed the opportunity to buy Rial and are clearly taking advantage of it, then it’s also likely there are at least a few institutional investors seeking to scoop up low-priced IRR for resale after the sanctions are removed.
Of course, unlicensed and illegal currency dealers are also active participants and beneficiaries of the black market for Rial in the U.S. As seen earlier, most online Rial dealers appear to be small-yet-active sellers of the forbidden currency.
There are sobering yet unanswered questions: Since Rial is illegal in the U.S., where are the dealers obtaining their supplies? How many Rial sellers are actually agents for the Iranian government, assigned to access the U.S. banking system?
Since Rial banknotes are illegal in the U.S. and are available only from the Iranian banking system, there must be a network of Iranian financial agents that support the value of the IRR while harnessing the power of the U.S. banking system.
To demonstrate the ease at which currency can be purchased, we purchased from several of the dealers and then notified PayPal about the illegal activity. Nothing was ever done. These are brand new, never circulated notes directly from the Iran Central bank.
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When Americans buy IRR from Iranian sellers, the money received may be directly benefiting terrorism. This is contrary to the wording and the spirit of the sanctions against Iran.
Yet, an alarming number of investors are ignoring the sanctions. So, are Americans right or wrong to buy Iranian Rial?
 

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SECTION 6: Why U.S. corporations help American citizens illegally buy Iranian Rial?

Although Americans purchase Rial for a variety of reasons, including the desire to profit from an expected rise in the currency’s value once sanctions are lifted, the reasons major U.S. corporations help them evade those sanctions are less clear.
Corporations like PayPal, eBay and Amazon would seem to have little to gain and much to lose by openly allowing sales of a commodity (Rial banknotes) that are clearly illegal under current U.S. law.
These American companies host Rial sellers routinely, apparently without determining whether they’re U.S. citizens or perhaps Iranian citizens or others acting on behalf of the Iranian government or business interests.
Or, perhaps the marketplace is too small for the in-house compliance staff at PayPal to notice the widespread sanctions-busting activities of the buyers and sellers on their banking platform.
It may be argued that these companies have simply overlooked their legal obligations, and would correct any compliance issues once brought to their attention.
However, PayPal staff has been made aware of this illegal activity several times, yet they still refuse to comply with the law.
The only sure way to understand the reasons PayPal, Amazon and eBay are participating in, indeed creating this illegal online marketplace would be for the appropriate authorities ask them about their practices.
It’s perhaps understandable that profit-making corporations would turn a blind eye to “gray area” sales of Rial and other currencies of nations disfavored by the U.S. government.
But what about the responsibility of the U.S. government itself in allowing Rial sales? Perhaps the feds are overlooking the Rial sales industry for political reasons, such as not wanting to derail diplomatic discussions.
Still, illegal sales have been increasing for more than a year, long before there was any discussion about the possibility of ending the sanctions.
Perhaps the authorities haven’t been made fully aware of this large-scale circumvention of the sanctions against Iran.
For those who buy Iranian Rial…. PayPal, eBay & Amazon help evade government sanctions
Major corporations are openly breaking U.S. federal law and international sanctions by creating, hosting and participating in the online Rial sales marketplace.
And, it seems that ordinary Americans have “jumped the gun” by buying Rial ahead of the actual lifting of sanctions.
The soon-expected removal of sanctions is certainly fueling Americans’ eagerness to buy Iranian Rial, yet it’s too early to know whether the value of the Rial will rise or fall after the sanctions are lifted. .
The only certainty is this: Until the sanctions against Iran are actually removed by UN and U.S. authorities, the illegal-yet-overlooked online Rial sales are certainly strengthening the Iranian government’s bargaining position while weakening that of the U.S. government.
 

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SECTION 7: The Iranian Rial’s future

As signaled in recent reports from financial news organizations, the anticipated easing of sanctions, together with improved relations between Iran and the U.S. as well as other nations, is expected to boost the value of the Rial.
In the meantime, until or unless U.S. authorities cut the banking connections by which PayPal, eBay, Amazon and other American companies are undermining the government’s international credibility and strength, Americans will continue to buy Rial and use the U.S. banking system to feed the Iranian government.

Why CurrencyLiquidator.com released this story:

As a licensed money services business (MSB) we’re required by law to report illegal activities in our industry. Prior to the publication of this report, several attempts were made to inform PayPal, eBay and Amazon regarding the continuing illegal use of their platforms, yet the black market Rial sales continue.
Full Disclosure: We’re a foreign currency exchange and we offer a wide variety of foreign currencies from around the world. As of the original publication date of this report (early September 2015) the Rial isn’t yet legal for sale. Once the Iranian Rial becomes legal to own, we’ll offer it to you through our Buy Iranian Rial page.
Article References:
“See the full text of the President’s Executive Order here”https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/06/03/executive-order-authorizing-implementation-certain-sanctions-set-forth-i
“See the list of states which sponsor terrorism here” http://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/06/03/executive-order-authorizing-implementation-certain-sanctions-set-forth-i
“sanctions’” http://iranprimer.usip.org/resource/us-sanctions
“Here is a list of some companies which have violated the sanctions” http://www.treasury.gov/ofac/downloads/t11sdn.pdf
“expanded” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_and_Libya_Sanctions_Act
“uranium enrichment projects” http://www.bloombergview.com/quicktake/irans-uranium-enrichment
“Resolution 1696” http://www.un.org/press/en/2006/sc8792.doc.htm
“Resolution 1737” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1737
“prohibiting financial dealings” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_1747
“extended the asset freezing even further” http://legal.un.org/avl/ha/ga_1803/ga_1803.html
“Resolution 2049” http://www.un.org/press/en/2012/sc10666.doc.htm
“SWIFT” http://www.swift.com/about_swift/shownews?param_dcr=news.data/en/swift_com/2015/PR_iran_sanctions_agreement.xml
“financial transactions” http://www.forbes.com/sites/jonmatonis/2013/06/17/government-of-worlds-reserve-currency-targets-iranian-rial/
“Acceptable Use Policy” https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/ua/acceptableuse-full
“terapeak” The above data were gathered from http://www.terapeak.com/
“here” https://www.currencyliquidator.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Illegal-Iranian-Rial-Sales.pdf
“boost the value of the Rial” http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2015/05/iran-import-sanctions-investment-consumer-foreign-assets.html
by Ssmith
on Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:40 am
 
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Topic: Currency exchange scandal by PayPal, Amazon and eBay With Millions in Iranian Rial Sales
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Martha & BigE12B Predict MARKET COLLAPSE 12/15/15

ssmith wrote:Next Tuesday - hot off the press. - from Martha

#1 the budget and possible furlough- They can’t agree so postponed to next week.


*Yawn* We've gone through this on a regular basis for years ... big deal.

#2 Tues the 15th D Day for market collapse, all areas. gold, silver and oil l leading the pack.


Wanna bet?

#3 Fed announces about interest rates. yes or no?. it doesn't matter, the Fed is cooked and all credibility will be gone. Bye Bye. Could this be the death of the fiat currency?


This will be about as accurate as your past predictions have been, which is to say not at all.

The south African rand took a nose dive this week. another currency for the cause?


The South African Rand has been on a steady trend downward for the last 5 years or so, (see the chart below). In other words, no thing new here. BTW South Africa is the S in the almighty BRICS...
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#4.oil oil oil. glutting the market.Will it get to 20.00 a barrel? Also the futures market is falling apart but intentionally.


Perhaps it will reach $20/bbl, but over production will have to continue for a while before it does. Even if it does though nothing here spells RV.
-snip-

 You could see gold plunging $30 or even $50 in the morning, then exploding $30 or $50 higher in the afternoon.


Gold has proven extremely volatile, so not exactly a surprise or a big deal here.

You could see the euro spiking 5% in the morning, then swooning to 10% in the afternoon.


Another non event ... this has happened before and not long ago at that.

You could see the Dow and S&P 500 up 300 or even 500 points in the morning, then down that much or even more in the afternoon

No big deal on the DOW, a couple percent at the most, in the case of the S&P 500, it would be a big deal, but not likely to happen, not if the DOW only drops a few hundred.


In summary, as usual you have nothing.
by Kevind53
on Fri Dec 11, 2015 9:21 am
 
Search in: GURU FICTION & PREDICTION DAILY
Topic: Martha & BigE12B Predict MARKET COLLAPSE 12/15/15
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