DO NOT push to elect RICK PERRY....A PHONY AND A FRAUD

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:25 am

Although I have many friends and family in Texas who can give you an ear full about the PHONY RICK PERRY.....the below information is out of New Hampshire......please get this out ASAP as the LAME STREAM MEDIA is now trying to push this guy out there since golden boy Romney doesn't have a leg to stand on.....perry is just another Good OLE boy club guy and out for himself....NOT TO BE TRUSTED FOLKS.....check out the below link and pass this info far and wide.....we don't need another establishment guy running our country.....Here's what the establishment is NOT telling you about Rick the Prick PERRY.......send a message to the LAME STREAM MEDIA that they are NOT choosing our President this time.......

http://colonel6.com/2011/07/15/nh-tea-party-organization-posts-truth-about-candidate-perry/#comments

The NH Tea Party Coalition has posted a blog about Rick Perry:

As a border state governor, Mr. Perry signed state immigration law in 2001 known as the Texas DREAM Act. Here is an excerpt from a speech Governor Perry gave during the border summit in August of 2001:

“We must say to every Texas child learning in a Texas classroom, “we don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there.” And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers. That’s why Texas took the national lead in allowing such deserving young minds to attend a Texas college at a resident rate. Those young minds are a part of a new generation of leaders, the doors of higher education must be open to them. The message is simple: educacion es el futuro, y si se puede.”

In 1988 Perry was Al Gore’s Democrat Chairman in Texas. He was a Democrat until 1989.

Read more: Washington Times

Rick Perry’s Gardisil Problem

Redstate: Rick Perry’s Highway to heck

14 Reasons Rick Perry Would Be a Really Bad President

Update:

Due to the great success of the NHTPC in NH, other states have bonded with us and share information. Those states are Iowa, Oregon, Colorado, Florida, and TEXAS. We are united across America and will circumvent the tea party HIJACKERS who are proclaiming their support for candidates like Romney and Perry.

Regarding Perry, please see this email received from Texas just this morning 6/30/2011.

It is a testimony to what is being said about Rick Perry.

Dear friends,

I am notifying you all of a very serious situation. I have forwarded you a message (and link to a video) below that we have sent out to our Texas friends, and I am asking you to inform your grassroots groups of the blatant and intentional political game playing shenanigans that occured in the Texas Legislature. The tricks that were played were unbeliveable. If I had not seen them my own eyes I wouldn’t believe it. Bottom line:

Rick Perry has been flirting with the possibility of running for president. How can he lead America if he cannot lead Texas?

Background:

1. Texas Tea Parties helped break the states record in primary voter turn out, and in November 101 Republicans were elected to the Texas State house giving Rick Perry a supermajority of Republicans. (ALL who ran on Conservative values)

2. Texas Tea Parties, immediately following the election, began to beat the drum for the election of House Speaker. OUST STRAUS is what echoed in the State Capitol on Jan. 10th! Joe Straus would be the returning Speaker who was essentially elected by ‘buying’ all the Democrat votes in the House in the previous session. He appointed more Liberals than Conservatives in the last session so we warned our elected officials to steer clear of Joe Straus. ONLY 15 ultimatley stood their ground. Joe Straus became 2011 Speaker for his second term.

3. As we suspected, Joe Straus did not appoint Conservatives to committees, and precious legislation died. They Republican controlled house could not even the peoples business done in the regular session and Gov. Perry had to call a special session.

4. Sanctuary Cities (SB 9) was on Gov. Perry’s emergency items for the Texas session, and the House failed to get it done. Gov. Perry added Sanctuary Cities to the special session where it died in the State Affairs committee under Chairman Byron Cook (R – Corsicana) appointed by Speaker Straus. This would have been the closest Texas could have come to curbing illegal immigration. ALL other illegal immigration bills died during the regular session.

5. TSA Bill (SB 29) or (HB 41) otherwise known as the “anti-groping” bill restricting TSA agents from molesting citizens. This was an attempt to stand up for the 4th Amendemnt for Americans. The courageous David Simpson (R- Longview) fell on the sword at the end of the session by speaking the truth and exposing the Republican leadership.

I personally (Texas Tea Party spokesperson) asked Gov. Perry face to face on Tuesday, June 28th at 11:30 AM to call a second session, or issue an executive order to protect citizens and legal immigrants. Several of my collegues were there to do the same. We were paid lip service but the session ended today and the house went home.

If Governor Perry is going to run for President of the United States, perhaps he needs to hear from grassroots OUTSIDE Texas!

Please gather your troops and STAND WITH TEXAS! Call Governor Perry’s office and tell him that it’s time to WALK THE WALK if he is “FED UP” as his book is titled.

Texas needs to get back in session and do what’s right!

Call Governor Perry’s office 512-463-1782

PASS TSA & SANCTUARY CITIES!

GOVERNOR PERRY – CALL A SECOND SPECIAL SESSION AND GET THE PEOPLES BUSINESS DONE!

Tell him that I (Texas Tea Parties) sent you!

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Rick Perry’s record:

· Toll Roads and Trans Texas Corridor – Is it socialism, fascism or communism? It’s a Keeps trying to ram Trans Texas Corridor (TTC) down Texans throats. Massive land grab. Toll roads are gargantuan TAX INCREASES, debt time bombs and an attack on property rights. Rick Perry has instituted a huge tax increase in Texas in the form of toll roads; going from zero debt on roads to $30 billion in toll road debt in 10 years as Perry sells off Texas ’ public infrastructure. They will financially blow up later, just like real estate market did, because of the high leverage. (2003-2011). For more info: email Terri Hall at terri@texasturf.org . Also, www.texasturf.org, the anti-toll road group. Contact Linda Curtis – of IndyTexans at ljcurtis@indytexans.org; she can tell you how Perry is controlled by monopolistic corporations definitely NOT interested in “free market” enterprise and competition. http://www.indytexans.org/ Here is her case for impeaching Perry as governor: http://impeachperry.indytexans.org/tenreasons.php

· Business Margins Tax – backdoor state income tax (2006)

· HPV vaccine mandate – Attack on parental rights. Tried to force every 12 year old girl in Texas to take Gardisil shots because his former Chief of Staff Mike Toomey is a lobbyist for Merck. Perry literally tried to mandate this by executive decree as if he were a Hillary Clinton dictator until the Texas legislature crushed it overwhelmingly. (2007)

· FLDS El Dorado raid (2008) – Another massive attack on parental rights and peaceful home schoolers; Religious Oppression. 438 children ripped away from parents and traumatized for months. Out of control Child Protective Services goons raid, approved by Rick Perry, and based on a CRANK phone call from Colorado alleging child abuse; breaks up dozens of families. Of ALL the outrageous things Perry has done, this may be the WORST as he criminally traumatized and endangered dozens of peaceful families. http://www.johntfloyd.com/blog/2009/07/25/the-unrelenting-march-against-flds/ (2008)

· Was Democrat Al Gore’s Texas campaign chairman 1988! Then Karl Rove recruited opportunistic Perry to switch parties so Perry could win Agricultural Commissioner as a Republican. Rick Perry is a Trojan Horse for statism cloaked in Tea Party rhetoric and Christian Bible talk buzzwords. Very cynical. (1988)

· Played politics with the death penalty case of Cameron Todd Willingham – Perry refused to give him a stay. Willingham had been convicted of murdering his family via an arson determination that was based on junk science. Even worse, Perry later removed 3 members of board of the Texas Forensic Science Commission that was investigating the case and put political pressure on the head of the panel.(2009)

· Defeated Justice Steven Wayne Smith – makes robo phone calls against most conservative Supreme Court judge in modern Texas history. Smith was the equivalent of Robert Bork, probably the best judge we had in Texas in 50 years. His crime was beating RINO, Xavier Rodriguez, an appointee of Rick Perry in a primary. Perry got in a funk and vowed to bring down Smith next time and he did. Rodriguez also made some pro-abortion rulings. (2004)

· Supports No Child Left Behind Act and Dept. of Education (Hey, is the federal government running your local school in the Constitution? Fine with Rick Perry.)

· Instituted state CHIP program for Texas!, a widely abused program and one more step to socialized medicine, more taxes and rationed healthcare. (Hey, is CHIP in the 10th Amendment?)

· Supports Sobriety Check Points! Unconstitutional trashing of YOUR 4th Amendment rights where everyone is pulled over with no probable cause and no reasonable suspicion. (Perry supported SB 298 bill) 2009

· Supports the Patriot Act – By now folks you should have figured out the Patriot Act is the criminal government nuking your 4th Amendment rights. Fine with Rick.

· Vetoes Texas Eminent Domain Bill – taking your land for his toll road schemes more important than signing property rights protection overwhelmingly passed by Legislature. (2007)

· Signs Hate Crimes bill — Attack on free speech and creates thought crimes, includes sexual orientation as a class! (2001)

· Governor for NINE years, then reads about the 10th Amendment a few years ago. Trying to piggy back on Ron Paul and the Tea Party movement. Completely insincere because for 9 years Perry never said an ill word about federal encroachments, No Child Left Behind, etc. (2009)

· Endorses liberal cross dresser and gun grabber Rudy Guiliani for President (2008) – tells Mike Huckabee I love you like a brother, but you can’t win so I am going with gun grabber Rudy Julie Annie, he’s a sure thing! The Bilderbergers said I can be VP if I grovel enough and am for toll roads, globalism, open borders, big government, big pharma and, of course, the Federal Reserve.

· Globalist bootlicker – Bilderberger toady (2007). For United Nations, NAFTA, CAFTA, Trans Texas Corridor.

· Token opposition to illegal immigration – probably because the illegals will be building all his toll roads!

· Does not stand up for elected State Board of Education every time it gets castrated by the liberals in the legislature Throws crumbs to conservatives on SBOE, but when they really need him, hides under desk, sticks fingers in ears. Did not veto SBOE redistricting map which was designed to castrate conservatives. (2011). Contact textbooks legend Donna Garner on this: donnaggarner@gmail.com

· Texas Enterprise Fund – basically, Rick Perry’s slush fund for politically connected insiders, another WASTE of your tax dollars. Gave $20 Million to Country Wide Financial which went bankrupt. Many company executives who get access to this slush fund are – you guessed it – Perry contributors. Rick Perry has a massive cronyism problem.

· Supports $5 bar tax on every patron of a strip club – Wife Anita pushes this. “Wife” Anita on salary for $65,000/year at the Texas Association Against Sexual Assault and bar tax is their #1 legislative agenda item. TAASA receives state money already and wants to get grubby hands on bar tax expected to generate millions. Titty bar tax ruled unconstitutional by lower courts. (2010)

· Supported whopping $3 Billion Cancer BONDS, the Lance Armstrong cancer tax – more taxing, borrowing and spending. (2007). Perry is for Texas borrowing money to go into the cancer research business.

· Tries to intimidate FEMALE state trooper who pulls him over for speeding while he was lieutenant governor, telling her “Why don’t you just let us get on down the road?” as she was writing him a ticket. (1999)

· Tells a Houston tv reporter Ted Oberg “Adios, mofo.” (2005)

· Wants to use Texas Teacher and State Employee Retirement Money on risky TOLL ROADS! http://www.texasmonthly.com/blogs/burkablog/?p=4969ing

Source: 14 Reasons Why Rick Perry Would be a Really, Really Bad president: – http://www.infowars.com/14-reasons-why-rick-perry-would-be-a-really-really-bad-president/

by czinser Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:25 am

Also don't forget that he is real cozy with the Muslim community.

Very bad man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! affraid

Blessings,

CZ

by RickeyT Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:59 am

If the election was held and it was a contest between O and Mickey Mouse, O would lose....

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:43 am

RickeyT wrote:If the election was held and it was a contest between O and Mickey Mouse, O would lose....

That's why you must be very afraid of getting Rick Perry elected....he is just another head of the same snake.....we who are awake know this....PERRY is another good ole boy bad guy....wolf in sheep's clothing!

by FreedomUSA Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:15 am

[b]ELECTABLE - adjective
capable of, or having a reasonable chance of, being elected

by PPR Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:17 am

and let Obama win with a minority? Don't fall for that trap again my friends.

Signed,

Ross Perot and Bill Clinton

by roggiebb Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:23 am

I Live in Texas and Ricky baby is the best gov we have ever had and you are a fool if you really believe the garbage you are spouting. I think you must be an O man afraid of the truth so LIES are your game

by letmar321 Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:38 am

With all due respect...I also live in Texas and do not trust Perry. He was a democrat and I think he could be another RINO. I trust Ron Paul. If given the chance I think Ron Paul is our best bet for President.

by FreedomUSA Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:45 am

"A wise man changes his mind a FOOL never will"Spanish Proverb

Perry has shown his wisdom. And HE is "Electable"

IMHO

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:09 am

roggiebb wrote:I Live in Texas and Ricky baby is the best gov we have ever had and you are a fool if you really believe the garbage you are spouting. I think you must be an O man afraid of the truth so LIES are your game

Ron Paul is the man to trust in Texas....don't need more of the same and that is what you will get from Perry! I have known about much of this for a while because I researched him when he ran for Governor last time around...I was pulling for the real Tea Party candidate....can't remember her name now and she brought out much of this but the LAME STREAM MEDIA swept it under the rug and she of course lost.....long story short....he is a PHONY and another politician who tells you ONE thing and does another.....support a real man and real truth seeker....that is RON PAUL.....wants us to follow the rule of law and get back to the Constitution.....what is wrong with that for a change????

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:12 am

letmar321 wrote:With all due respect...I also live in Texas and do not trust Perry. He was a democrat and I think he could be another RINO. I trust Ron Paul. If given the chance I think Ron Paul is our best bet for President.

As do a lot of my friends and family and they agree with you letmar....let's make sure Perry doesn't get away with it this time like he did when he ran for governor last time around....the LAME STREAM MEDIA continues to protect him....that should tell you all something right away......look what we have now after the LAME STREAM MEDIA swept everything true about OBama under the rug.....time to get a real American hero elected and that man is Ron Paul! Thanks for your input letmar! Smile

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:16 am

FreedomUSA wrote:"A wise man changes his mind a FOOL never will"Spanish Proverb

Perry has shown his wisdom. And HE is "Electable"

IMHO

Electable by who.....the LAME STREAM MEDIA and the corrupt establishment....yeah that's what we want more of.....I would rather have someone UNelectable....then I know they are trustworthy and telling us the truth....NO MORE OF these SLICK WILLIES.....how about trying someone who loves the Constitution and wants to put this country back on track to following it.....SAD that we can't put the best man for the job in place....it has to be someone with pretty hair and nice clothes and good rhetoric.....NO WONDER our country is in the shape it is in......THIS IS NOT AMERICAN IDOL...DUH!!!!

by FreedomUSA Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:54 am

In the midst of the seemingly purposeful actions of the PBHO administration's push to continually "THROW AMERICA UNDER THE BUS"! Governor Rick Perry has not only kept his state of Texas from being as victimized as other states he has lead the charge to see the state of Texas grow and flourish.

So IMHO my 1st choice as an electable WINNING ticket would be Gov. Rick Perry and Florida Senator Marco Rubio my 2nd choice would be a Gov. Perry/Rep Bachmann ticket.

While, I agree with Rep Paul's fiscal conservative stance, many of his libertarian and non interventionist ideas I cannot support. However, foremost, I do not believe Ron Paul is electable so I will not take a chance on a ticket that I believe might just give us another 4 years of BHO. I not only want to cast my vote, I want it to hold some possibility of defeating this present BHO administration. A vote for Ron Paul IMHO would not bring that about.

"The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is." Sir Winston Churchill

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:13 pm

FreedomUSA wrote:In the midst of the seemingly purposeful actions of the PBHO administration's push to continually "THROW AMERICA UNDER THE BUS"! Governor Rick Perry has not only kept his state of Texas from being as victimized as other states he has lead the charge to see the state of Texas grow and flourish.

So IMHO my 1st choice as an electable WINNING ticket would be Gov. Rick Perry and Florida Senator Marco Rubio my 2nd choice would be a Gov. Perry/Rep Bachmann ticket.

While, I agree with Rep Paul's fiscal conservative stance, many of his libertarian and non interventionist ideas I cannot support. However, foremost, I do not believe Ron Paul is electable so I will not take a chance on a ticket that I believe might just give us another 4 years of BHO. I not only want to cast my vote, I want it to hold some possibility of defeating this present BHO administration. A vote for Ron Paul IMHO would not bring that about.

"The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is." Sir Winston Churchill

And if the majority stays in your frame of thinking you can kiss this country good bye because any RINO will just be more of the same....BO isn't doing anything any different than Bush did and look where we are!

You might want to go over to some of the other threads I started here and read gmahunni's comments...maybe his/hers will sink in better as to what we are up against if we don't get Ron Paul elected.....and STOP with the NONSENSE that he is NOT electable.......that is a plus for him....it means the LAME STREAM MEDIA can NOT buy him!!!!

by SEBtopdog Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:16 pm

FreedomUSA wrote:In the midst of the seemingly purposeful actions of the PBHO administration's push to continually "THROW AMERICA UNDER THE BUS"! Governor Rick Perry has not only kept his state of Texas from being as victimized as other states he has lead the charge to see the state of Texas grow and flourish.

So IMHO my 1st choice as an electable WINNING ticket would be Gov. Rick Perry and Florida Senator Marco Rubio my 2nd choice would be a Gov. Perry/Rep Bachmann ticket.

While, I agree with Rep Paul's fiscal conservative stance, many of his libertarian and non interventionist ideas I cannot support. However, foremost, I do not believe Ron Paul is electable so I will not take a chance on a ticket that I believe might just give us another 4 years of BHO. I not only want to cast my vote, I want it to hold some possibility of defeating this present BHO administration. A vote for Ron Paul IMHO would not bring that about.

Dear Freedom USA: I was just about to compose my own answer to all the Perry bashers, then I read your post. I could not have said it any better!
SB
"The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is." Sir Winston Churchill

by BobW Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:24 pm

Another VERY conservative tea-partier from Texas (born and raised) and you people who expect perfection and decide to sit on your hands or split the vote are the ones that gave us Obama and Clinton. Was it worth it?

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:25 pm

SEBtopdog wrote:
FreedomUSA wrote:In the midst of the seemingly purposeful actions of the PBHO administration's push to continually "THROW AMERICA UNDER THE BUS"! Governor Rick Perry has not only kept his state of Texas from being as victimized as other states he has lead the charge to see the state of Texas grow and flourish.

So IMHO my 1st choice as an electable WINNING ticket would be Gov. Rick Perry and Florida Senator Marco Rubio my 2nd choice would be a Gov. Perry/Rep Bachmann ticket.

While, I agree with Rep Paul's fiscal conservative stance, many of his libertarian and non interventionist ideas I cannot support. However, foremost, I do not believe Ron Paul is electable so I will not take a chance on a ticket that I believe might just give us another 4 years of BHO. I not only want to cast my vote, I want it to hold some possibility of defeating this present BHO administration. A vote for Ron Paul IMHO would not bring that about.

Dear Freedom USA: I was just about to compose my own answer to all the Perry bashers, then I read your post. I could not have said it any better!
SB
"The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is." Sir Winston Churchill

Bashing is quite different from facts....I presented facts....they are all provable....go do your own research and find out.....if you like a LIAR and THEIF then Perry is your man....most people I know don't like and want that type of person running this country so thank GOD you all are a minority now!

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:27 pm

BobW wrote:Another VERY conservative tea-partier from Texas (born and raised) and you people who expect perfection and decide to sit on your hands or split the vote are the ones that gave us Obama and Clinton. Was it worth it?

That's what you will get again if you place another RINO on the ballot like Perry....4 more years of the same old thing....don't let the LAME STREAM MEDIA tell you who to vote for...that's what got us BO!

by Captsalt Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:32 pm

Shakes, You make the statement "Bashing is quite different from facts....I presented facts....they are all provable....go do your own research and find out.....if you like a LIAR and THEIF then Perry is your man....most people I know don't like and want that type of person running this country so thank GOD you all are a minority now!" and fail to back anything up. Please, if you feel so impressed to make vile comments, place within the text urls to validate your statements.
Thank you,

by BobW Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:39 pm

shakes4life wrote:
BobW wrote:Another VERY conservative tea-partier from Texas (born and raised) and you people who expect perfection and decide to sit on your hands or split the vote are the ones that gave us Obama and Clinton. Was it worth it?

That's what you will get again if you place another RINO on the ballot like Perry....4 more years of the same old thing....don't let the LAME STREAM MEDIA tell you who to vote for...that's what got us BO!

The media NEVER tells me anything. I know all about the HPV, Trans Texas corridor (personal involvement) etc and many things not even in your post BUT my point is there are 2 sides to every story and YOU have not fully investigated, just posted what others have written (read media).

My first choice would be Bachman and in the primary that is the way I will vote (right now) BUT

ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!

by DesertPete Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:49 pm

I have lived in Texas most all of my life. I do NOT trust Rick Perry. He is a classic politician. He is NOT a man of principle as he would have you believe. He is political opportunist, a political chameleon who changes color to blend in with whomever will benefit him the most. He was a democrat until 1989 when the Democrats began to lose power in Texas, he conveniently became a Republican He is globalist and a Builderberger. He is a VERY liberal RINO. If he is elected I believe that he very well could be the same horse...just a different color. Watch the main stream media, if they begin to favor him, you know he has been bought! DO Your Homework...we can't afford to put the wrong man/woman in the White House again! There are much better alternatives.

by FreedomUSA Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:51 pm

One of the greatest strengths of our Republican form of government is that each of us can speak our mind. However, as we are seeing here it can also show its weaknesses when those in public discourse chose to speak with their emotions rather than their mind.

It seems those decrying the"Lame Stream Media" have actually adapted to using the very tactics that the "Lame Stream Media" use when persons do not agree with either their opinions and or the facts as they choose to present them.

They then become fanatics that actually cause more damage to those they are desiring to support for political office than the political candidate does by his own record, actions or platform.

Webster Definition Fanatic: marked by excessive enthusiasm and often intense uncritical devotion

Synonym for fanatic: enthusiast, zealot, bigot, hothead, militant.

The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. Winston Churchill

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:55 pm

I sent my info on Perry to the White Hats....I just got a confirmation email back that I am correct....here it is below.....these folks are former military and FBI and CIA along with other higher ups.....they know Perry is a FRAUD so take it to the bank folks.....Pass this far and wide!

________________________________________
From: The White Hats [mailto:thedarkcabal@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 9:34 AM

Subject: Re: Perry is a PHONY and a FRAUD....just more of the same....pass this far and wide.....

Perry is a fraud. And will complete the Bushes NWO - Perry will be another Obama (Bush on Steroids). This is what I'm responding with.

"If you want to give away your freedom then by all means vote for Perry. But, if you want the constitution vote for Paul."

Thanks,
The White Hats

by txchick Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:10 pm

hmmmm i wonder what your real agenda is?

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:24 pm

txchick wrote:hmmmm i wonder what your real agenda is?

My agenda is seeking the truth as everyone's should be!

Matthew: 26-28
"Therefore do not be afraid of them.
Nothing is concealed that will not be revealed,
nor secret that will not be known.
What I say to you in the darkness, speak in the light;
what you hear whispered, proclaim on the housetops.
And do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul;
rather, be afraid of the one who can destroy
both soul and body in Gehenna. "

by FreedomUSA Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:30 pm

Great! So now let me ask you a question? DO YOU know for a fact WHO these White Hats are? Have you personally met them? If you are so sure that our government is mis-informing it's citizens have you ever considered that the White Hats just might be part of that mis-information? If they are from the CIA etc. how do you know they are former and not present. Just a thought!

Interestingly their blogspot sit is named tdarkcabal.blogspot/ interesting name.

Wonder what it means? Perhaps The Dark Cabal?

Which I know could then mean "The Dark Conspiracy". But whose conspiracy our governments or theirs?

Perhaps they are not who you think they are. If they are former CIA, Military then they should come out and let us know who they are don't you think?

Now I am not saying they are mis-informing or are not former CIA, Military etc. I am just saying show me the proof of who they are.

And if you think they are afraid of being found out? Think again, I guarantee that our government already knows who they are! It is just you and I who do not!

"You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life."
Sir Winston Churchill

by Ronn Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:41 pm

SEBtopdog wrote:
FreedomUSA wrote:In the midst of the seemingly purposeful actions of the PBHO administration's push to continually "THROW AMERICA UNDER THE BUS"! Governor Rick Perry has not only kept his state of Texas from being as victimized as other states he has lead the charge to see the state of Texas grow and flourish.

So IMHO my 1st choice as an electable WINNING ticket would be Gov. Rick Perry and Florida Senator Marco Rubio my 2nd choice would be a Gov. Perry/Rep Bachmann ticket.

While, I agree with Rep Paul's fiscal conservative stance, many of his libertarian and non interventionist ideas I cannot support. However, foremost, I do not believe Ron Paul is electable so I will not take a chance on a ticket that I believe might just give us another 4 years of BHO. I not only want to cast my vote, I want it to hold some possibility of defeating this present BHO administration. A vote for Ron Paul IMHO would not bring that about.

Dear Freedom USA: I was just about to compose my own answer to all the Perry bashers, then I read your post. I could not have said it any better!
SB
"The truth is incontrovertible, malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end; there it is." Sir Winston Churchill

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 1:49 pm

FreedomUSA wrote:Great! So now let me ask you a question? DO YOU know for a fact WHO these White Hats are? Have you personally met them? If you are so sure that our government is mis-informing it's citizens have you ever considered that the White Hats just might be part of that mis-information? If they are from the CIA etc. how do you know they are former and not present. Just a thought!

Interestingly their blogspot sit is named tdarkcabal.blogspot/ interesting name.

Wonder what it means? Perhaps The Dark Cabal?

Which I know could then mean "The Dark Conspiracy". But whose conspiracy our governments or theirs?

Perhaps they are not who you think they are. If they are former CIA, Military then they should come out and let us know who they are don't you think?

Now I am not saying they are mis-informing or are not former CIA, Military etc. I am just saying show me the proof of who they are.

And if you think they are afraid of being found out? Think again, I guarantee that our government already knows who they are! It is just you and I who do not!

"You have enemies? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life."
Sir Winston Churchill

Suffice it to say I have been communicating with them for a while now and KNOW they are legit.....and yes the government most likely KNOWS who some of them are....NOT all....but you may get the privilege of knowing soon yourself if you learn to stand up for FREEDOM like your name says!

by FreedomUSA Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:38 pm

Then post their Bio's. Give us the facts on them that you and they are giving regarding others? I am sure ALL of us would like to have the benefit of having the information you do on who they are.

And yes I do get "The White Hat Reports".

And IT DOES NOT SUFFICE to me that you have been communicating with them. Again you keep saying to everyone on this thread to dig deeper so I am!

I have requested from both you and them who the White Hats are. I will await their response which suffice it to say will probably be ignored or refused.

And I am standing up for Freedom! Both Mine and Yours as my Handle states! However I will not try to comment on yours.

Honest people don't hide their deeds. - Emily Bronte

Courage is the first of human qualities because it is the quality that guarantees all the others. - Sir Winston Churchill

by Tlcjones11 Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:47 pm

I have not only met Rick Perry but I have also worked with his people. He is a politician and a good one. He will do for this country what he has worked hard to accomplish in Texas.
You want to smear mud on someone's face, then look in the mirror because you haven't a clue as to what you are talking about here shakes. Your "truths" are what someone else tells you. You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the ....nuff said.

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:58 pm

FreedomUSA wrote:Then post their Bio's. Give us the facts on them that you and they are giving regarding others? I am sure ALL of us would like to have the benefit of having the information you do on who they are.

And yes I do get "The White Hat Reports".

And IT DOES NOT SUFFICE to me that you have been communicating with them. Again you keep saying to everyone on this thread to dig deeper so I am!

I have requested from both you and them who the White Hats are. I will await their response which suffice it to say will probably be ignored or refused.

And I am standing up for Freedom! Both Mine and Yours as my Handle states! However I will not try to comment on yours.

Honest people don't hide their deeds. - Emily Bronte

Courage is the first of human qualities because it is the quality that guarantees all the others. - Sir Winston Churchill

I am unable to do that...many are risking their lives to restore America back to it's original Constitution.....bio's have nothing to do with this.....all the BS you buy into from the propaganda machine are NOT folks you personally know so why do you believe their nonsense.....there is plenty of proof out there if you will just take the time to research....you should know by now that most of our government is UNLAWFUL and corrupt.....now go on....for someone who thinks they stand up for freedom it is apparent you have much to learn! NOTHING like the present to get started!

by FoxyRoxy Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:03 pm

While I agree about Perry (I like him, but I don't TRUST him -- same with Romney), I feel that Ron Paul is completely unelectable. Also, it has been noted that his health seems to be deteriorating pretty rapidly as of late.

I don't know yet who I will support, but I do know that if the Republicans don't really come together and decide on a strong candidate and garner nationwide support for that candidate, we could very well be looking forward to four more years of unfettered, unabashed, unapologetic, no-holds-barred Marxism/Socialism/Statism (u pick the ideology) as they cram even MORE unconstitutional garbage down our throats and continue to erode our freedom. Since Obama will know that there will be nothing at stake for him, he and his treasonous minions will pound the final nails into the coffin of America and will see to it that our Republic is completely destroyed.

I sure wish Chris Christie would run. He'd get my vote!

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:52 pm

Tlcjones11 wrote:I have not only met Rick Perry but I have also worked with his people. He is a politician and a good one. He will do for this country what he has worked hard to accomplish in Texas.
You want to smear mud on someone's face, then look in the mirror because you haven't a clue as to what you are talking about here shakes. Your "truths" are what someone else tells you. You wouldn't know the truth if it bit you on the ....nuff said.

From Debra Medina....the real Tea Party Patriot that ran against Rick the PRICK for Governor....evidently you don't know your boy very well or you are just trying to dupe the American people into voting for another FRAUD and corrupt politician.....there is SOo-o-o- much dirt on Perry that he does NOT have a chance....try to find something on Dr. Paul....I dare you...NUFF SAID for sure.....

James Richard Perry

A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves. -Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins, usually known only as Bertrand de Jouvenel (31 October 1903, Paris – 1 March 1987) was a French philosopher, political economist, and futurist.

James Richard "Rick" Perry assumed the governorship of Texas in 2000 when he took over from George W. Bush who resigned to take the oath of office of President. He holds all records for Texas gubernatorial tenure. Perry has the distinction of being the only governor in modern Texas history to have appointed at least one person to every possible state office, board, or commission position which requires gubernatorial appointment (as well as to several elected offices to which the governor can appoint someone to fill an unexpired term, such as six of the nine current members of the Texas Supreme Court).

Perry was born in 1950 in West Texas to rancher parents. His father was a Democrat on the school board of Haskell County and was also a commissioner. Rick Perry graduated in 1972 from Texas A & M with a degree in animal science. After graduation, he was commissioned in the United States Air Force, completed pilot training and flew C-130 tactical airlift in the United States, the Middle East, and Europe until 1977. He left the Air Force with the rank of captain, returned to Texas and went into business farming cotton with his father. Sounds good so far, doesn't he?

Perry said that his interest in politics probably began in November 1961, when his father took him to the funeral of Sam Rayburn, (Mr. Democrat) who during his long public career served as speaker of the Texas House and the U.S. House of Representatives. In 1984, Perry was elected to the Texas House of Representatives as a Democrat from a district that included his home county of Haskell. He served three two-year terms in office. He befriended fellow freshman state representative Lena Guerrero of Austin, a staunch liberal Democrat who endorsed Perry's reelection bid in 2006 on personal, rather than philosophical grounds.

Perry supported Al Gore in the 1988 Democratic presidential primaries and was chairman of the Gore campaign in Texas. In 1989, Perry announced he was joining the Republican Party. Perry is a member of the National Governors Association (NGA). Bill Clinton is the only member of the NGA who ever became president of the United States.

The Bilderberg Conference

In 2007, Rick Perry attended the Istanbul, Turkey Bilderberg Conference. Link, Link In "What You Don't Know About The Bilderberg Group," by Thierry Meyssan, he states, "The Bilderberg Group is a creation of NATO. It aims to influence key leaders on a global scale and through them, to manipulate public opinion to get it to embrace the ideas and actions of the Northern Atlantic Alliance." Link The Bilderbergers, Trilateralists, and Council on Foreign Relations, along with many other organizations are the groups implementing the New World Order.

Tort Reform

As Governor, Perry supported tort reform to limit malpractice lawsuits against doctors, and as lieutenant governor he had tried and failed to limit class action awards and allowing plaintiffs to allocate liability awards among several defendants. In 2003, Perry sponsored a controversial state constitutional amendment to cap medical malpractice awards, which was narrowly approved by voters. This legislation has resulted in a 30 percent decrease in malpractice insurance rates and a significant increase in the number of doctors seeking to practice in the state. Tort reform is heavily pushed by the insurance industry. Link Many states have passed variable limited amounts in their tort reform. Obviously the majority of thinking Americans are against frivolous lawsuits.
However, there are countless cases of not only physician error/negligence, but also of hospital error/negligence. What is the life worth of your child, husband, wife, or anyone you love? Would tort reform increase negligence and erase patients' rights? Link, Link

Big Government and Fiscal Conservatism

In 2000, when Perry took office as governor, total spending by the state of Texas was $49 billion. At the end of 2010, it had almost doubled to $90 billion. Perry campaigns on his fiscal conservatism and small government, but he has enlarged the government and budget of Texas and now the state has some severe debt problems since he took office. Although he's not raised the sales tax in Texas nor implemented a state income tax, he has raised about every other fee and tax he could think of including a surcharge on traffic violations. (As an aside, Georgia now has fees along with fines on traffic violations and they are as high as $800.00. Fines have set limits, but fees do not, so the state has found new ways to tax the people with high fees.) He also raised the franchise taxes on Texas's small businesses. As anticipated, Texas businesses paid more in franchise taxes after the overhaul than they did before: In 2006 and 2007, franchise tax revenue was $5.75 billion. In 2008 and 2009, the first two years of the revised tax, total revenue rose to $8.7 billion. Link

Perry has borrowed money for many projects in Texas which has created difficult debt situations. Link Here's the Texas debt clock, Link.

The Sordid Details of the Trans Texas Corridor Scandal

Gov. Rick Perry may not be the spider, but he certainly has become one of the strands in the web of international conspiracy for those who see a stealth plan to merge the United States with Canada and Mexico.

A key element of that alleged plan is Perry’s Trans-Texas Corridor, specifically the 1,200-foot wide toll road that is proposed from Laredo to the Oklahoma border. A toll road likely to be built by a consortium headed by Spanish Cintra S.A. and Zachry Construction Co. of San Antonio. The first step to creating a North American Union is merging the nations’ transportation systems and the Trans-Texas Corridor is the first step. Link

Perry seemed to have his own plans for farm and ranch lands of Texas all along. Rick Perry wanted to build 4,000 miles of mega-highway over a million and half acres of prime, productive Texas farmland. Over a million people would have been kicked out of their homes, ranches & businesses. Behind closed doors, a contract worth billions was signed with a Cintra S.A. to pave clear across the state and collect tolls for the next 50 years. After he pushed this through, Perry’s war chest swelled with millions from big business buddies who stood to grow even richer off the deal. But citizens revolted against this outrage of cronyism and government overreach. The legislature tried to stand up for Texas families by passing a law to protect homes and farms, but Perry vetoed it. Only days after he won his primary, transportation officials announced a proposal to extend a major toll road in Austin (SH-130) north towards the Waco area – following the same route as Perry’s Trans-Texas Corridor!

In 2009, TXDOT decided to phase out the all-in-one corridor concept in favor of developing separate rights-of-way for road, rail, and other infrastructure using more traditional corridor widths for those modes. In 2010, official decision of "no action" was issued by the Federal Highway Administration, formally ending the project. The action eliminated the study area and canceled the agreement between TXDOT and Cintra Zachry. In 2011, the Texas Legislature formally canceled the Trans-Texas Corridor because of the outrage of Texas citizens.

Backdoor Toll Roads

In October of 2009, Perry removed the Superintendent of Schools in Dallas who was chair of the board that oversees the $88 billion Teacher Retirement System. He replaced him with a member of his own campaign finance team. This came shortly after the death of the Trans Texas Corridor. The new man in charge is to urge the Teacher Retirement System to invest in Perry's risky toll road schemes as a means to funnel money into the TXDOT (Texas Dept. of Transportation). So
Perry hasn't given up on his plans. Link

Rick Perry's toll roads are a gargantuan TAX INCREASE of tens of billions of dollars, debt time-bombs putting Texans at risk for financial explosion, and an attack on property rights.

Terri Hall explains it well in her June 25, 2011 article on her website.

"Agenda 21's stated goals are to abolish private property and restrict mobility in individual cars (i.e. - herd people into the cities and make them dependent on mass transit). Public private partnerships are a primary means to accomplish these goals, which is the sale of our public roads to private, even foreign corporations which not only mean toll rates as high as 75-80 cents PER MILE, it also restricts the expansion of free lanes and allows the government to abuse its eminent domain powers to steal your land and give it to another private interest for profit."

"Check out Glenn Beck's expose' on YouTube. Here's an example of the sort of propaganda sustainable development proponents produce in order to make it "cool" and "green" to give up your property rights and freedom to travel. Link."

Perry Lies About Foreign Creditors

Terri Hall writes, "By selling off Texas' public buildings (including the capitol buildings owned by the people) and roads to foreign corporations like Cintra and Balfour Beatty, Perry and the Legislature are clearly making future generations of Texans pay for a bailout of lawmakers for their chronic underfunding of and raiding of highway funds. Entering into public private partnerships for every sort of infrastructure is the flavor of the month that lawmakers turn to in order to hawk-up our public 'assets' (like taking out a second mortgage) to get quick cash rather than match spending with revenues or end gas tax diversions for non-road purposes. In other words, PPPs give politicians a get out of jail card to engage in spending beyond their means, using the same 'foreign creditors' that Perry denounced." (Remember Arizona sold off all their public buildings, including the Capitol building...still think Brewer is wonderful?)

"For more on the bills passed that allow this, go here. Also, Texas currently has 20 deals in the works with none other than China."

Rick Perry, Merck and Parental Rights

On February 2, 2007, Perry issued an executive order that made Texas the first state to require girls entering the sixth grade to receive the HPV (Human Papilloma Virus) vaccine starting in the fall of school year 2008. The vaccine was Merck's Gardasil which had only received FDA approval in June of 2006, for 9 to 26 year old women, so it wasn't even a year old. The cost was $360 per shot in Texas and Merck was lobbying to get the rest of the states on board with the mandatory vaccine. Two of Perry's former Chiefs of Staff worked for Merck, and the mother of one of them was involved in lobbying for Texas state law to inoculate young girls. His former chief of staff was paid $250,000 by Merck to lobby for this. A Texas state legislator (Diane White Delisi) was pushing for it and working with Merck and her daughter-in-law was the current chief of staff.

Merck had doubled its lobbying budget in Texas and funneled money through an organization called Women in Government, to which Perry has a number of personal ties. Perry also received $6000 from Merck's political action committee during his re-election campaign. Gardasil allegedly only protects from one to three of the hundred or so forms of HPV and the side effects are devastating, including death. Link and Link

Girls were allowed to refuse the vaccine if their parents filed an objection on religious or other philosophical grounds. However, what is to prevent the school from vaccinating that child before the parent even is aware of when it will take place? I personally have no desire to receive any government or state mandated vaccine.

Parents sued the state on moral and safety concerns and on May 9, 2007, Perry allowed a bill to go into law that would undo his executive order.

Interestingly enough, Perry asked for federal assistance in fighting the non-existent 2009 H1N1 influenza pandemic.

Education

Texas has the second highest number of enrollments in Charter Schools which Governor Perry backs and seemingly are pushed in every state by the Heritage Foundation. See The Rockefeller/Heritage connection and Saving the Republic? Part 2.

"The significance of the charter school/school choice issue is NOT related strictly to educational choice. It is related to acceptance of a communist system of governance where decisions are made by appointed, not elected officials. Appointed officials cannot be removed from office by voters/taxpayers." For a thorough overview of the Charter School Trap see Charlotte Iserbyt's article and ask yourself why all these so-called conservative Republicans are backing Obama's push for charter schools.

Perry also backed No Child Left Behind which became law through the efforts of both John Boehner and Ted Kennedy for President George W. Bush. "It is basically the United Nations Lifelong Learning-Brainwashing Agenda under the umbrella of what will eventually be "unelected" school and community councils (council is defined as "soviet" in many dictionaries) which will make all decisions for us at the local level." Link

The Anti-TSA Bill

Oh how all the nation would have loved to have Governor Rick Perry sign into Texas law the Anti-TSA law preventing groping or fricasseeing in airports. There were actually two bills, HB1937 and HB1938. Texas State Rep. David Simpson, offered the bill that civilly penalizes TSA agents who use full body scanning machines at airport security check points, and also offered a second bill penalizing TSA officials who do enhanced pat downs.

Representative Simpson and his supporters, who are of considerable number and come from both sides of the aisle, believe that they are on firm, Constitutional ground. The Fourth Amendment protects American citizens from "unreasonable search and seizure." The 10th Amendment suggests that the operation of airports is a state and not a federal function.

So what happened? Why didn't it pass and get signed into law? After passing in the house, it stalled in the Senate. The U.S. attorney for the Western District of Texas, said the Transportation and Security Administration would ground flights "for which it could not ensure the safety of passengers and crew." Great excuse for killing the bills.

Originally there was support for Simpson's bills, but then when the Justice Department wrote a scathing memo against the bill, which threatened legal action against the state, the measure became enmeshed in Senate politics. Perry stated at the outset there wasn't enough support for the bill and he didn't push it, but it garnered him positive publicity. The Tea Party activists and other enraged citizens pressured the governor's office wherein he finally added the bill to the special-session agenda after at least 200 other special sessions' bills were introduced. The special-session runs until June 29. Is there a chance it will become law? Highly doubtful. Link, Link

Supreme Court Justice Steven Wayne Smith

Perry has made numerous appointments to the Texas courts, to commissions, to boards, etc. in his tenure as I mentioned above. One of Perry's first selections was the appointment of Xavier Rodriguez to succeed Greg Abbott on the Texas Supreme Court. Rodriguez, a self-proclaimed moderate,(progressive republican) was unseated in the 2002 Republican primary by a true constitutional conservative Steven Wayne Smith, the attorney in the Hopwood v. Texas suit in 1996, which successfully challenged affirmative action at the University of Texas Law School. Smith was elected by a comfortable margin over Democratic opposition in the 2002 general election. After his defeat, Rodriguez returned to private practice briefly before being appointed to the Federal District Court for the Western District of Texas in San Antonio by President George W. Bush.

Perry objected to Smith's tenure on the court and refused to meet with the new justice when Smith attempted to mend fences with the governor. (What does this tell you about Perry?) Perry encouraged Judge Paul Green to challenge Smith in the 2004 Republican primary. Green defeated Smith in the primary and was elected without opposition in the general election. Smith attempted a comeback in the 2006 Republican primary by challenging Justice Don Willett, another Perry appointee who was considered a conservative on the court. Smith polled 49.5 percent of the primary vote, but Willett narrowly prevailed.

According to many Texans, Steven Wayne Smith was the Robert Bork of Texas and the best supreme court judge they'd had in 50 years.

Eminent Domain

Rick Perry vetoed the Eminent Domain bill that would have helped landowners in Texas. He claimed the compensation was too high, but in reality it strengthened the protection of privately held land from being grabbed by Texas legislators. “With this veto, Governor Perry has left every home, farm, ranch and small business owner vulnerable to the abuse of eminent domain,” said Steven Anderson, director of the Institute for Justice’s Castle Coalition, a national grassroots advocacy group committed to ending the private-to-private transfer of property using eminent domain. Link

Perry Signs Hate Crime Bill

Signing the Hate Crime Bill was one of the first things Perry did as governor. Hate Crime laws are laws that make some crimes worse than others because of a person’s perceived bias to some class or group. In reality these laws are thought crime laws and murder is murder and should be punished accordingly no matter the person or group. The Texas law, which received final legislative approval on in 2001 (signed by Rick Perry), strengthens penalties for crimes motivated by a victim's race, religion, color, sex, disability, sexual preference, age or national origin. Link

Amnesty

Rick Perry often gives speeches about illegal immigration, but when you look at the facts, he has been incredibly soft on the issue. Eric Holder is soft on immigration and against SB 1070. So is Perry. Eric Holder talks a tough game while loosening enforcement. So does Perry. A little ritual troop marching on the border does not block illegals from jobs and entitlements. Perry is working on watered down laws to please his Latino constituency. If Rick Perry does not plan to secure the border, then he should not be president because illegal immigration is absolutely devastating many areas of the southwest United States. Governor Rick Perry supports in-state tuition for illegal aliens, opposes the border fence, supports the Trans-Texas Corridor, and has refused to crack down on services to illegal aliens. He has even stated openly in the past that he has a moderate record on immigration. Link

Conclusion

Perry is a globalist not much different than Newt Gingrich, Mitt Romney or Herman Cain. There is so much more I could write about Perry's governorship, but it would take a book. Texan Robert Morrow states, "Rick Perry is a Trojan Horse of statism cloaked in Tea Party rhetoric and Bible Buzzwords."

Muslim convert Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform has delayed a planned GOP presidential debate in Las Vegas, NV, in order to first allow Rick Perry to throw his ten gallon hat into the ring. Secret Council for National Policy member Norquist is the perfect model of the fatal co-opting of the conservative and Tea Party movements by corrupt transnationalists. If you wish to see just how, read Gulag Bound's February article, “The Trouble at CPAC & the Real Dividing Line for Conserving America.”

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Ephesians 6:12.

Pray without ceasing for our nation for our only hope is in God.

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:55 pm

FoxyRoxy wrote:While I agree about Perry (I like him, but I don't TRUST him -- same with Romney), I feel that Ron Paul is completely unelectable. Also, it has been noted that his health seems to be deteriorating pretty rapidly as of late.

I don't know yet who I will support, but I do know that if the Republicans don't really come together and decide on a strong candidate and garner nationwide support for that candidate, we could very well be looking forward to four more years of unfettered, unabashed, unapologetic, no-holds-barred Marxism/Socialism/Statism (u pick the ideology) as they cram even MORE unconstitutional garbage down our throats and continue to erode our freedom. Since Obama will know that there will be nothing at stake for him, he and his treasonous minions will pound the final nails into the coffin of America and will see to it that our Republic is completely destroyed.

I sure wish Chris Christie would run. He'd get my vote!

He is in fine health.....quit the misinformation.....he recently played in a baseball game in DC house of reps and did well.....quit passing on rumors that have NO proof....you would have to have his medical records to know if he is in good health or not and I doubt you have those Foxy! Ron Paul is as strong as they come....he is the only one standing up to the status quo neo-cons and will be the saving grace of our Constitution....as the White Hats say....a vote for Paul is a vote for the Constitution.....what are you afraid of????

by FreedomUSA Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:09 pm

shakes4life wrote:
FreedomUSA wrote:Then post their Bio's. Give us the facts on them that you and they are giving regarding others? I am sure ALL of us would like to have the benefit of having the information you do on who they are.

And yes I do get "The White Hat Reports".

And IT DOES NOT SUFFICE to me that you have been communicating with them. Again you keep saying to everyone on this thread to dig deeper so I am!

I have requested from both you and them who the White Hats are. I will await their response which suffice it to say will probably be ignored or refused.

And I am standing up for Freedom! Both Mine and Yours as my Handle states! However I will not try to comment on yours.

Honest people don't hide their deeds. - Emily Bronte

Courage is the first of human qualities because it is the quality that guarantees all the others. - Sir Winston Churchill

I am unable to do that...many are risking their lives to restore America back to it's original Constitution.....bio's have nothing to do with this.....all the BS you buy into from the propaganda machine are NOT folks you personally know so why do you believe their nonsense.....there is plenty of proof out there if you will just take the time to research....you should know by now that most of our government is UNLAWFUL and corrupt.....now go on....for someone who thinks they stand up for freedom it is apparent you have much to learn! NOTHING like the present to get started!

Is it unable or unwilling? The ones I see that are risking their lives for America generally are wearing some form of uniform. There is difference between risking ones life and risking ones reputation. I since it is the later you are speaking of.

I am not buying anything from anyone I receive my information free (well, I do pay for my cable service) and FYI I do research on things that I believe I need to. Including all of the conspiracy websites. And have been doing so for over 10 years.

Perhaps you are being a bit presumptuous in stating that I do not know personally those I am receiving my information from. You might just be surprised at who I know and where I get my information from, and it is not the "BOOB TUBE" as you prefer to refer to rather than a television.

And yet I have not shared any statements from those I know nor have I posted information from them. I have just shared MY OPINION. So unlike those you have referenced in support of your opinion, my sources are not relevant in this discourse.

If our government is UNLAWFUL then it is us the citizens that are to blame not the politicians. As politicians can only do what the citizenry will allow them to. And yes I will readily admit I have a lot to learn. However, knowledge alone is not the answer. As knowledge without the wisdom to know how to apply it effectively, is a waste of time.

As I sense is the case with any further discourse regarding this string of posts so I will bid my farewell.

"The jaws of power are always open to devour, and her arm is always stretched out, if possible, to destroy the freedom of thinking, speaking, and writing." John Adams

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:14 pm

FreedomUSA wrote:
shakes4life wrote:
FreedomUSA wrote:Then post their Bio's. Give us the facts on them that you and they are giving regarding others? I am sure ALL of us would like to have the benefit of having the information you do on who they are.

And yes I do get "The White Hat Reports".

And IT DOES NOT SUFFICE to me that you have been communicating with them. Again you keep saying to everyone on this thread to dig deeper so I am!

I have requested from both you and them who the White Hats are. I will await their response which suffice it to say will probably be ignored or refused.

And I am standing up for Freedom! Both Mine and Yours as my Handle states! However I will not try to comment on yours.

Honest people don't hide their deeds. - Emily Bronte

Courage is the first of human qualities because it is the quality that guarantees all the others. - Sir Winston Churchill

I am unable to do that...many are risking their lives to restore America back to it's original Constitution.....bio's have nothing to do with this.....all the BS you buy into from the propaganda machine are NOT folks you personally know so why do you believe their nonsense.....there is plenty of proof out there if you will just take the time to research....you should know by now that most of our government is UNLAWFUL and corrupt.....now go on....for someone who thinks they stand up for freedom it is apparent you have much to learn! NOTHING like the present to get started!

Is it unable or unwilling? The ones I see that are risking their lives for America generally are wearing some form of uniform. There is difference between risking ones life and risking ones reputation. I since it is the later you are speaking of.

I am not buying anything from anyone I receive my information free (well, I do pay for my cable service) and FYI I do research on things that I believe I need to. Including all of the conspiracy websites. And have been doing so for over 10 years.

Perhaps you are being a bit presumptuous in stating that I do not know personally those I am receiving my information from. You might just be surprised at who I know and where I get my information from, and it is not the "BOOB TUBE" as you prefer to refer to rather than a television.

And yet I have not shared any statements from those I know nor have I posted information from them. I have just shared MY OPINION. So unlike those you have referenced in support of your opinion, my sources are not relevant in this discourse.

If our government is UNLAWFUL then it is us the citizens that are to blame not the politicians. As politicians can only do what the citizenry will allow them to. And yes I will readily admit I have a lot to learn. However, knowledge alone is not the answer. As knowledge without the wisdom to know how to apply it effectively, is a waste of time.

As I sense is the case with any further discourse regarding this string of posts so I will bid my farewell.

"The jaws of power are always open to devour, and her arm is always stretched out, if possible, to destroy the freedom of thinking, speaking, and writing." John Adams

The reason you don't see things differently is because you are blind to the truth and unwilling to open your eyes and your ears....watch this video....it is long but you might learn something.....then again...people like you who are lazy and believe what the propaganda machine tells them instead of investigating will always fall prey to the LIARS.....good luck....hopefully you will take the time....

The Obama Deception....

https://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel#p/c/0/eAaQNACwaLw

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:37 pm

Do your homework people.......

Friday, 12 August 2011

Rick Perry: Enemy of National Sovereignty

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By John Anderson
Rick Perry: Enemy of National Sovereignty

Rick Perry is being touted as the 'hard line conservative' candidate, more conservative than Mitt Romney or Jon Huntsman but more electable than conservative stalwarts Ron Paul and Michele Bachmann. But what is Rick Perry's record like as Governor of Texas?

Rick Perry supports in-state tuition subsidies for illegal aliens. Referring to the illegal aliens attempting to qualify for the in-state tuition subsidies, Perry calls them “young Texans” and says that requiring them to pay full tuition like the American citizens from other states and foreign born students with legal student visas “is not what America has always been about.” In 2001, Perry signed the Texas DREAM Act, which gave in-state tuition subsidies to illegal aliens who had graduated high school in Texas (already costing money to the Texas education system) or had a GED. Perry still stands behind and supports the subsidies. The in-state subsidy costs Texas taxpayers about $12,000 per student per year at the University of Texas.

In 2001, during a border summit, Perry said “We must say to every Texas child learning in a Texas classroom, "We don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there. And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers. “ Perry added that, “the doors of higher education must be open to them. The message is simple: educacion es el futuro, y si se puede [education is the future, and yes, we can].”

Rick Perry also supports granting citizenship to children of illegal aliens, and opposes legislation to change the current policy which grants citizenship to any child of an illegal alien who sneaks across the border to give birth.

Rick Perry also supported the NAFTA Superhighway, officially known as the 'Trans Texas Corridor'. The main purpose of the NAFTA Superhighway was to provide a corridor to import Chinese goods via Mexican ports. Although some defend this importation as 'free market', the means they planned to use to build this government funded transportation corridor were anything but free market. Rick Perry signed into effect a bill granting his government increased powers to use 'eminent domain' to seize land from private owners to build the NAFTA Superhighway.

In addition to allowing the Chinese government oil company CNOOC to lease a huge section of mineral rights in Texas, Rick Perry proudly supports a Chinese company which is regarded by many as a threat to national security. His website proudly displays a press release of him cutting the ribbon at the new U.S. Headquarters of Huawei, a company under the control of the Chinese military and part of its spying network. Huawei manufactures telecommunications equipment, and allowing the Chinese military access to America's telecommunications infrastructure is a certain invitation to allow spying.

Huawei has previously supplied technology to Saddam Hussein's Iraq which they used in their anti-aircraft systems which were attempting to shoot down American planes. A decade ago, Huawei was supplying telecommunications equipment to the Taliban, who at the time were in control of Afghanistan. Huawei also openly supplies advanced telecommunications equipment to Iran.

Like George Bush, who he followed as Texas governor, Rick Perry might be from a border state but doesn't believe in borders. America under Rick Perry would be open to both illegal immigration invasion and spying by Chinese companies who sell vital technology to America's enemies. Rick Perry was even willing to seize land from Texas landowners to build a highway to assist them. Have conservatives learned nothing from 8 years of George W. Bush?

http://www.westernyouth.org/articles/rick-perry-enemy-of-national-sovereignty/?print=1&tmpl=component

by FoxyRoxy Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:01 pm

shakes4life wrote:
FoxyRoxy wrote:While I agree about Perry (I like him, but I don't TRUST him -- same with Romney), I feel that Ron Paul is completely unelectable. Also, it has been noted that his health seems to be deteriorating pretty rapidly as of late.

I don't know yet who I will support, but I do know that if the Republicans don't really come together and decide on a strong candidate and garner nationwide support for that candidate, we could very well be looking forward to four more years of unfettered, unabashed, unapologetic, no-holds-barred Marxism/Socialism/Statism (u pick the ideology) as they cram even MORE unconstitutional garbage down our throats and continue to erode our freedom. Since Obama will know that there will be nothing at stake for him, he and his treasonous minions will pound the final nails into the coffin of America and will see to it that our Republic is completely destroyed.

I sure wish Chris Christie would run. He'd get my vote!

He is in fine health.....quit the misinformation.....he recently played in a baseball game in DC house of reps and did well.....quit passing on rumors that have NO proof....you would have to have his medical records to know if he is in good health or not and I doubt you have those Foxy! Ron Paul is as strong as they come....he is the only one standing up to the status quo neo-cons and will be the saving grace of our Constitution....as the White Hats say....a vote for Paul is a vote for the Constitution.....what are you afraid of????

Shakes, I'm not afraid of anything except for O getting another 4. It has been reported in the news by interviewers that Ron Paul appears a little shaky and has aged much, and that's from folks on OUR side who have personally observed him (have you?). If you think that's "misinformation," you're entitled to your opinion. As much as I like, respect, and appreciate Ron Paul, there is no way that he will garner enough support to become the GOP candidate of choice. I'm just being realistic.

by DrMaDD Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:29 pm

Health of mind is considerably more important.

by FoxyRoxy Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:38 pm

DrMaDD wrote:Health of mind is considerably more important.

I agree that mental health is important, but so is physical health. Regardless, it is some of Ron Paul's beliefs that will keep him from being the GOP nominee. Some of his policies are frankly questionable to conservatives.

by DrMaDD Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:49 pm

I'm curious to understand what beliefs you are talking about, please enlighten me.

by DLWard Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:50 pm

Nowadays when anyone prays publicly even Christians suspect someone using the Cross to hide behind. One has to be cautious not to Judge anyone too quickly. Just 30 minutes ago watched a program sharing a series of Prophecies from Kim Clement in 2010. He was on a platform and really had no idea of who or what a Rick Perry was. Never mentioned by name before last night on a live broadcast, almost a year later.

He spoke of another President coming out of Texas, a burning Bush, a man on fire, void of FEAR, etc, etc. Yesterday Gov Perry entered the 2012 Race for President. Last Sept, he spoke of a woman of passion, an Esther, who people would hate at first, and suddenly fall in love with, a woman with BIG ROUND EYES, Beautiful round eyes. Newsweek oddly enough tried to make her look crazy and put a photo of her where her eyes were really wide open almost coming out of her head, and called her on the cover...a Woman of Rage.

Kim only came to know of her back around March, but oddly enough she just swept Iowa, and is...also as he spoke of running for President. Let me say this regarding even a communist party Presidential Candidate, if they had one. No need for one, they already announced from Hoffstra University Campus, their open Endorsement of Obama, their second election doing so by the way. BUT IF they had a Candidate who even was born here, uses his own Social Security Number, hey...one would have good reason to at least consider that candidate as at least being one of us, Communist or not.

I would not be surprised to see a Perry/Bachman Ticket next summer. When writing I just write what comes. Whenever GOD has a plan, a candidate or agenda....confrontations arise INSTANTLY. But in my experience, CONFRONTATIONS are one's CONFIRMATIONS of being on the right track. How often has anyone really tried HARD to stop you from going down the wrong path.

In the same prophecy of Sept 19 th shown on his Saturday Broadcast Kim also talks about our economy, our debt, our standing in the world, etc, etc. Everything we just saw on Capital Hill and are seeing now ...sorry, that we cannot give out links, but one could use the name Kim Clement and add a .com, and check out yesterdays broadcast showing half way through the video of yesterday, evidence of all I am sharing.

Two ways to get to know a person...Pray for them or Pray with them. Most will have no idea of how that could be, but another way is to hear what comes out from within. Out of the abundance of the Heart, the mouth speaks. I love when people posting make clear what is really in their heart. Be it Fear, Faith, Hate, Love, Wisdom, Foolishness, Judgementalism or .................a Let's watch this person a while longer before making any hard choices. Bachman and Perry are still strangers to my world, so...let's start to study who they have so far manifested as. Perry has held down the Governorship since President Bush, now study Texas Politics and let me know how many Governors have lasted that long.

I was an Upstate New Yorker for 18 years, DC fellow for 12, Md Shore for 20, Orlando, Florida for 7 and really have no reference point to Texas Politics per se. However if you last two Terms in a State full of some pretty sharp folks like Texas...you can't be a phony for long. They will and likely have...tested this young fellows metal. RV TUESDAY, remember FAITH NEEDS A TARGET, only move it after the target moves. Intention's POWER is Inseparable from ATTENTION'S FOCUS. NO FOCUS....NO POWER.

by Mowgli Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:53 pm

You need to go back in history and look at what our Forefathers did to get away from the establishment of the British Government. Look at the Boston Tea Party it was a revolution and today we must stand up for our rights as American patriot and not have our constitution freedom be taking away from us.

The Tea Party of today is based on the people that where involvedwith the Boston Tea Party of November 29th 1773. If you like your freedom it is time to speak up and have a voices be heard like they did here.

The Tea Party and their Patriots!!!

The Full Description of the Events
Patriots alert the population about the arrival of tea
On Monday morning, the 29th of November, 1773, a handbill was posted all over Boston, containing the following words: "Friends! Brethren! Countrymen!--That worst of plagues, the detested tea, shipped for this port by the East India Company, is now arrived in the harbor; the hour of destruction, or manly opposition to the machinations of tyranny, stares you in the face. Every friend to his country, to himself and to posterity, is now called upon to meet at Faneuil Hall, at nine o'clock THIS DAY (at which time the bells will ring), to make united and successful resistance to this last, worst, and most destructive measure of administration."
The ship Dartmouth, from London, with a cargo of tea, had anchored off the castle the day before. By invitation of the Boston Committee of Correspondence those of Roxbury, Cambridge, Dorchester and Brookline assembled in the room of the selectmen, while crowds of citizens were pouring into Faneuil Hall, and resolved, by unanimous vote, to use their joint influence to prevent the landing of the tea. It was also resolved to invite all the town-committees in the province to co-operate with them.
The crowd soon became so great that the Hall could not contain them, and the meeting was adjourned to the Old South Meeting-house. There the people resolved that the tea should not be landed; that no duty should be paid; and that it should be sent back in the same bottom. They also voted that Francis Rotch, the owner of the vessel, should be directed not to enter the tea, at his peril, and that the captain of the Dartmouth should also be warned not to suffer the tea to be landed. Orders were given for the ship to be moored at Griffin's Wharf, and twenty citizens were appointed a guard to watch her.
A letter came to the meeting from the consignees, offering to store the tea until they could write to England and receive instructions. "Not a pound of it shall be landed," said the meeting. They also resolved that two other tea-ships, then hourly expected, should, on their arrival, be moored alongside the Dartmouth, in charge of the same volunteer guard. The meeting quietly adjourned, and the movements of the people were governed by the Committee of Correspondence. They appointed a number of post-riders to carry news to the other towns, in case there should be an attempt to land the tea by force.
The rumors are spreading around Boston
On the 14th of December, another meeting was held in the Old South, when it was resolved to order Mr. Rotch to immediately apply for a clearance for his ship and send her to sea, for his cargo had all been landed excepting the chests of tea. In the meantime, the governor had taken measures to prevent her sailing out of the harbor before the tea should be landed; and he wrote to the ministry, advising the prosecution of some of the leaders of the Sons of Liberty in Boston, for high crimes and misdemeanors. He ordered Admiral Montagu to place two armed ships at the entrance to Boston harbor, to prevent the egress of vessels; and he directed Colonel Leslie, who was in command of the Castle, not to allow any vessel to pass out from the range of his great guns, without a permit signed by himself.
The excitement of the people was now at fever heat. The issues of every future hour were looked for with great anxiety. The air was full of rumors--some true, some false--and on the 16th of December (1773), the day to which the meeting was adjourned, the largest assembly then ever seen in Boston were gathered in the Old South Meeting House, and its vicinity. Samuel P. Savage, of Weston, presided. Full two thousand men from the neighboring towns were there. Seven thousand men soon filled the great fane and overflowed into the street.
It was reported that the Custom-house officers had refused to give Mr. Rotch a clearance for his vessel before the tea--the whole cargo--should be landed. "No vessel can pass the Castle without my permission, and I will not give it," thought the governor, as he rode out to his country-seat at Milton; and he believed he had secured a victory. Not so thought the people. When the great assembly heard of the refusal of the Custom-house officers to grant a clearance, they said to Mr. Rotch: "Go to the governor; protest against their action, and ask him for a permit for your vessel to sail." He hastened to the governor in the country, and the meeting adjourned until three o'clock.
The final meeting took place at the Old South Meeting House
When they reassembled the merchant had not returned, and the question was put to the meeting: "In case the governor shall refuse his permission, will you abide by your former resolutions with respect to not suffering the tea to be landed?" Earnest men spoke to the question. Among the most earnest was young Josiah Quincy, a rising lawyer. He harangued the crowd with prophetic words eloquently spoken. "It is not," he said, "the spirit that reposes within these walls that must stand us in stead. The exertions of this day will call forth events which will make a very different spirit necessary for our salvation. Let us consider the issue. Let us look to the end. Let us weigh and consider, before we advance to those measures which must bring on the most trying and terrible struggle this country ever saw."
When Mr. Quincy ceased speaking, it was sunset and the church was lighted by candles. The question was put, and the thousands answered in the affirmative. There was a call for Mr. Rotch, but he had not returned. He came soon afterward, and reported that the governor peremptorily refused him permission to send his vessel to sea before the tea should be landed. A murmur ran through the vast assemblage, but the rising excitement was hushed into silence when Samuel Adams arose, and in a clear voice said: "This meeting can do no more to save the country."
The destruction of tea
At that moment a person with painted face and dressed like an Indian gave a war-whoop in the gallery, which was responded to in kind from the door of the meeting-house. Another voice in the gallery shouted: "Boston harbor a teapot to-night! Hurrah for Griffin's Wharf!" The meeting instantly adjourned and the people rushed for the street, and pushed toward Griffin's Wharf, following a number of men disguised as Indians. The populace cheered. Guards were posted to keep order. Among them wasJohn Hancock.
The disguised men and others then went on board the tea-ships moored at Griffin's Wharf, and in the course of three hours they emptied three hundred and forty-two chests of tea into the water of the harbor. The operation was performed in the presence of a multitude who were silent spectators of the scene. It was done at an early hour in the evening--a bright, cold, moonlit evening--and of the sixty men who went on board the tea-ships, only a part of them were disguised as "Mohawks."
It was not a mob that destroyed the tea, but sober citizens. It was not a mob that were spectators of the scene, but a well-behaved audience looking upon a serious and most significant pantomime. It was the work of patriotic men, encouraged by patriotic citizens, who were determined not to be trifled with any longer.
When the work was done--when Boston harbor had been made a vast "teapot"--the streets of the town became as quiet as a Sabbath evening. "All things," wrote John Adams to James Warren, "were conducted with great order, decency, and perfect submission to government."
The aftermath of the Boston Tea Party
Early the next morning the Committee of Correspondence appointed Samuel Adams chairman of a sub-committee to draw up a statement of what had been done with the tea, and then they sent Paul Revere as express to carry the document to the Sons of Liberty in New York and Philadelphia.
Of the immediate actors on board the tea-ships on that eventful night, the names of fifty-nine are known. The last survivor of the band was David Kinnison, who died in Chicago in 1851, at the age of one hundred and fifteen years.
The audacity and firmness of the Bostonians were applauded throughout the colonies. Even in Canada and the British West Indies there were but feeble voices of censure. But among the crown-officers in America and the ministerial party in Great Britain there was fierce wrath. Hutchinson threatened, but so softly, because of his fears, that it barely sufficed to shield him from the frowns of the ministers. The friends of the Americans in the British Parliament were silent for a moment, because they could not justify the destruction of private property; but the assurance sent to the East India Company, that the town of Boston would pay for every pound of tea destroyed on that occasion, loosened their tongues, and they made good use of the freedom for the benefit of the Americans.
The whole dispute still rested upon the original foundation--the denial of the right of Great Britain to tax the colonies without their consent. It was this fact, more than the destruction of the property, that excited the ire of the king and his ministers, and made the House of Lords like a "seething caldron of impotent rage." The honesty of the Americans was overlooked, and the ministry saw nothing in the proceedings at Boston but open rebellion.
The debates in the Parliament and the British response
The news of the "Boston Tea Pparty" reached England in January (1774), but it was not officially announced until early in March. The king had waited for overwhelming evidence of the wickedness of the Americans which he found in letters from Governor Hutchinson and Admiral Montagu, the consignees of the tea, the letters of other royal governors in whose respective colonies there had been serious threatenings, and a large number of inflammatory handbills. All of these were sent by the king to Parliament with a message, in which he asked that body to devise means for the immediate suppression of tumultuous proceedings in the colonies.
The House of Commons proposed an address of thanks to the king, and assurance that he should be sustained in efforts to maintain order in America. This address excited angry debates. The House became "as hot as Faneuil Hall or the Old South Meeting-house in Boston," said Burke. "There is open rebellion in America, and it must be punished," cried the Ministerial party. "Repeal your unjust laws and deal righteously with the Americans, and there will be peace and loyalty there," retorted the Opposition. After a long and stormy debate, the address was adopted by an overwhelming majority.
This vote strengthened Lord North, and stimulated the passions of the monarch. Urged by his sovereign, North submitted a bill, at the middle of March, for the severe punishment of Boston. It provided for the removal of the Custom-house, courts of justice and government offices of all kinds from Boston to Salem, and forbade every kind of shipping business in the harbor of Boston. It also provided that when the rebellious town should fully and humbly submit to royal authority, the king should have the power to open the port and restore the government business.
North justified the harsh measure by asserting that Boston was "the ringleader in every riot, and set always the example which others followed." He believed severe punishment of this rebellious town would strike terror throughout the colonies, and so bring the Americans into subjection to the crown. Many of his supporters in the House used very violent language, calling the Bostonians "mobocrats," and "vile incendiaries;" men who were "never actuated by reason, but chose tarring and feathering as an argument." One member denounced them as utterly unworthy of civilized forbearance. "They ought to have their town knocked about their ears," he said; "and ought to be destroyed." He concluded his unstinted abuse by quoting the factious cry of the old Roman orators against their African enemies--"Delenda est Carthago"--Carthage must be destroyed. Others more just, like Rose Fuller, proposed only a fine, which Barre and other staunch friends of the Americans thought just, as it would affect a single town, and voted for it. For this apparent defection, the portraits of Barre and Conway were removed from Faneuil Hall for a short time.
The voice of reason was not heard in Britain
Edmund Burke took a broader, loftier view of the subject, in a speech of remarkable power. It was the first of that series of splendid orations in Parliament, which made his name immortal. He denounced the whole scheme as unjust, because there was no discrimination. "You wish to condemn the accused without a hearing," he said; "to punish indiscriminately the innocent with the guilty! You will thus irrevocably alienate the hearts of the colonists from the mother country. Before the adoption of so violent a measure, the principal merchants of the kingdom should at least be consulted. The bill is unjust since it bears upon the city of Boston, while it is notorious that all America is in flames; that the cities of Philadelphia, of New York, and all the maritime towns of the continent, have exhibited the same disobedience. You are contending for a matter which the Bostonians will not give up quietly. They cannot, by such means, be made to how to the authority of ministers; on the contrary, you will find their obstinacy confirmed and their fury exasperated. The acts of resistance in their city have not been confined to the populace alone, but men of the first rank and opulent fortune in the place have openly countenanced them. One city in proscription and the rest in rebellion can never be a remedial measure for general disturbances. Have you considered whether you have troops and ships sufficient to reduce the people of the whole American continent to your devotion? It was the duty of your governor, and not of men without arms, to suppress the tumults. If this officer has not demanded the proper assistance from the military commanders, why punish the innocent for the fault and the negligence of the officers of the crown? The resistance is general in all parts of America; you must, therefore, let it govern itself by its own internal policy, or make it subservient to all your laws by an exertion of all the forces of the kingdom. These partial counsels are well suited to irritate, not subjugate."
Other members followed Burke in agreement with his views, but none were so clear and logical in ideas and expression as he. Charles James Fox, who had been dismissed from the Treasury to please the king, made his first speech in Parliament on that occasion, and it was a strange beginning of his brilliant career in the House of Commons. He objected to the power which the bill vestea in the crown to reopen the port of Boston when it should be closed!
http://www.boston-tea-party.org/in-depth.html

by DLWard Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:54 pm

Nowadays when anyone prays publicly even Christians suspect someone using the Cross to hide behind. One has to be cautious not to Judge anyone too quickly. Just 30 minutes ago watched a program sharing a series of Prophecies from Kim Clement in 2010. He was on a platform and really had no idea of who or what a Rick Perry was. Never mentioned by name before last night on a live broadcast, almost a year later.

He spoke of another President coming out of Texas, a burning Bush, a man on fire, void of FEAR, etc, etc. Yesterday Gov Perry entered the 2012 Race for President. Last Sept, he spoke of a woman of passion, an Esther, who people would hate at first, and suddenly fall in love with, a woman with BIG ROUND EYES, Beautiful round eyes. Newsweek oddly enough tried to make her look crazy and put a photo of her where her eyes were really wide open almost coming out of her head, and called her on the cover...a Woman of Rage.

Kim only came to know of her back around March, but oddly enough she just swept Iowa, and is...also as he spoke of running for President. Let me say this regarding even a communist party Presidential Candidate, if they had one. No need for one, they already announced from Hoffstra University Campus, their open Endorsement of Obama, their second election doing so by the way. BUT IF they had a Candidate who even was born here, uses his own Social Security Number, hey...one would have good reason to at least consider that candidate as at least being one of us, Communist or not.

I would not be surprised to see a Perry/Bachman Ticket next summer. When writing I just write what comes. Whenever GOD has a plan, a candidate or agenda....confrontations arise INSTANTLY. But in my experience, CONFRONTATIONS are one's CONFIRMATIONS of being on the right track. How often has anyone really tried HARD to stop you from going down the wrong path.

In the same prophecy of Sept 19 th shown on his Saturday Broadcast Kim also talks about our economy, our debt, our standing in the world, etc, etc. Everything we just saw on Capital Hill and are seeing now ...sorry, that we cannot give out links, but one could use the name Kim Clement and add a .com, and check out yesterdays broadcast showing half way through the video of yesterday, evidence of all I am sharing.

Two ways to get to know a person...Pray for them or Pray with them. Most will have no idea of how that could be, but another way is to hear what comes out from within. Out of the abundance of the Heart, the mouth speaks. I love when people posting make clear what is really in their heart. Be it Fear, Faith, Hate, Love, Wisdom, Foolishness, Judgementalism or .................a Let's watch this person a while longer before making any hard choices. Bachman and Perry are still strangers to my world, so...let's start to study who they have so far manifested as. Perry has held down the Governorship since President Bush, now study Texas Politics and let me know how many Governors have lasted that long.

I was an Upstate New Yorker for 18 years, DC fellow for 12, Md Shore for 20, Orlando, Florida for 7 and really have no reference point to Texas Politics per se. However if you last two Terms in a State full of some pretty sharp folks like Texas...you can't be a phony for long. They will and likely have...tested this young fellows metal. RV TUESDAY, remember FAITH NEEDS A TARGET, only move it after the target moves. Intention's POWER is Inseparable from ATTENTION'S FOCUS. NO FOCUS....NO POWER.

by jcole Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:11 pm

Wow, That's a very Slanderous title! Sure hope you arent over speculating. For Ever supporting Rick Perry!!!!!!! And Damned proud to say I have felt so fortunate to have such a sane and well directed person as our Governor!!! I will miss having him in charge of our state when he is elected President of the United States of America!!!!! :flower: chillout

by FoxyRoxy Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:13 pm

DrMaDD wrote:I'm curious to understand what beliefs you are talking about, please enlighten me.

Well, here is just one place you can find some of Ron Paul's libertarian ideology. I consider myself more of a libertarian than a Republican, but I am much more conservative than Mr. Paul, and IMO and based upon what I know about him, he won't find enough support to win the GOP nomination.

http://www.nolanchart.com/article8169_Ron_Paul_IS_WRONG.html

Topic: Ron Paul
Ron Paul IS WRONG
Ron Paul is wrong in his policies, and is wrong for America.by Sarge Friday
(conservative)
Sunday, November 28, 2010

Ron Paul's refrain is that he is in fact the real conservative. This is far, correction, tremendously far from the truth. Ron Paul is an extremist, and a phony conservative. People get the false idea that libertarians like Dr. Paul are the same as conservatives. Though conservatives and libertarians do oppose collectivism, this is the only appreciable similarity between the two ideologies. Simply put, Ron Paul is not a conservative, and he is wrong. In this, I will discuss three ways in which Dr. Paul is wrong for America.

First, Ron Paul's foreign policy is a textbook example of the naive Jeffersonian school of thought. This school teaches that America must be aloof from the world stage and not "seek an empire", (e.g. Ron Paul's opposition to the War in Iraq). Tell me, how is defending yourself from crazed Jihadists bent on global chaos, "seeking an empire"? In the real world, we call it defending against wanton aggression.

Oh, but Dr. Paul goes further to assert that it is America's fault for the War on Terror and not the Jihadists. He continually cites our involvement in the region from support of Israel, to troops in Saudi Arabia, and our bombing Saddam Hussein back in the 90's. First off, does not Israel have a right to exist and defend itself from terrorists like Hamas and Fatah who want to push the Jews back into the sea? Obviously Dr. Paul doesn't think so. He was the only member of Congress to vote against a resolution condemning Palestinian rocket attacks against Israeli civilians.[1] Can't we all get together on condemning senseless violence against unarmed non-combatants? On the subject of Saudi Arabia, who was it that asked us to be there in the first place? Oh, right the Saudis themselves. And, how can anyone justify sitting idly by while Saddam Hussein tries to build a nuclear weapon? Hussein was a deranged menace, but let's not attack him right? It amazes me that Ron Paul will condemn any action at all against someone as evil as Saddam Hussein, but will not lift a finger to aid Israel, the only stable democracy in the Middle East.

Ron Paul's foreign policy is naive. He thinks that if we just ignore the terrorist threat and "come home America" (hmmmthat line seems awfully familiar), then the threat will disappear. Well, thank God, that Ron Paul has a magic wand and pixy dust to wave away America's national security problems.

Speaking of "pixy dust". Ron Paul's position on the War on Drugs is sheer lunacy. He wants us to give up on the War on Drugs and thinks that it is a lost cause. Perhaps there is a concept that Dr. Paul does not fully comprehend: that in a war, any war from Baghdad to Berkeley, there is "no substitute for victory". He doesn't get this fundamental, common sense principle in foreign policy, so why should we really expect him to understand the same concept applied to the War on Drugs? My question to Doctor Paul is: if we surrender in the War on Drugs then what is our alternative solution? Is it legalization? Is it rehabilitation?

Now, the Cheech and Chong fan club is going to hate me for saying this (which if you tick them off is really a sign you're doing something right), but neither rehabilitation nor legalization will solve the drug problem in America. Rehabilitation will weaken us, cripple law enforcement, and send a message to the drug cartels and kingpins that we have gone soft. People will also be more inclined to use drugs because now there are fewer penalties. It is almost like saying that murders would go down if we started murder rehabilitation.

Legalization, on the other hand, is not merely a joke but a dangerous idea. Think of the degradation of society if we allow this. If every teenager can get drugs cheap and legal, think of the consequences of an entire generation that is high. Legalization proponents say that they will "tax" it, but I think they are either stupid or lying. It is interesting to note that the same people who call taxation "theft" and abhor cigarette taxes are the same that support drug legalization.

The Swedish Army did a study involving 50,000 recruits. Those who at 18 admitted to regular use of cannabis were 6 times more likely to develop Schizophrenia in the next 15 years.[2] Yeah, that's exactly what we need: an entire generation of schizophrenic Americans who are stoned when showing up at school, work, home, and the ballot box. Tell me, is this what Doctor Paul wants?

The last issue I want to discuss is the people that Ron Paul keeps company with. I judge a man by the people he associates with. Why? For one thing it makes me wonder whether that person shares the same beliefs that his friends do. Also, how can you claim to be a man worthy of the Presidency, when you don't even display the character and discernment to denounce bad people?

Ron Paul either seeks the support of extremists, or fails to denounce them. I do not believe that Dr. Paul is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist. But, he does have a cozy relationship with "truthers" like Jesse Ventura and the John Birch Society. The John Birch Society was such an extremist group that in the 1960's William F. Buckley, Jr. and Barry Goldwater wrote them out of the conservative movement. Ron Paul has even received the endorsement of neo-Nazi skinheads and Ku Klux Klansmen![3] I'd like to know where is the repudiation of these racist, seditious, and treasonous organizations and people? If Ron Paul wants to be President of the United States, then he should first condemn those who call for the destruction of the very Constitution that he claims to cherish. And he should condemn the kooks who think that our own government (which Dr. Paul is a member of) would seriously "set up" the 9/11 attacks. To believe that "9/11 was an inside job" is insane and darn near treasonous. And, if Ron Paul truly loves this country, then he should condemn any of his supporters who hate this country.

In 1980, the KKK endorsed Ronald Reagan. Did Reagan receive it? Did he hide behind some lame excuse like, "I can't choose my supporters"? NO. Ronald Reagan publicly denounced the Klan and what they stood for. Ronald Reagan was a man of character and a giant. Ron Paul is just a small individual who can't fill a tenth of Reagan's shoes.

Ron Paul is wrong on foreign policy, drug policy, and in regard to his associations. I am glad that there are enough right-thinking Americans and Republicans out there to repudiate extremists and fringe candidates like Ron Paul. Let's set the record straight: Ron Paul is no conservative and no real Republican. He is, in my mind, no different from the RINOs and even the liberal Democrats. America will rue the day that Ron "Paul-icies" are ever enacted.

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:49 pm

FoxyRoxy wrote:
shakes4life wrote:
FoxyRoxy wrote:While I agree about Perry (I like him, but I don't TRUST him -- same with Romney), I feel that Ron Paul is completely unelectable. Also, it has been noted that his health seems to be deteriorating pretty rapidly as of late.

I don't know yet who I will support, but I do know that if the Republicans don't really come together and decide on a strong candidate and garner nationwide support for that candidate, we could very well be looking forward to four more years of unfettered, unabashed, unapologetic, no-holds-barred Marxism/Socialism/Statism (u pick the ideology) as they cram even MORE unconstitutional garbage down our throats and continue to erode our freedom. Since Obama will know that there will be nothing at stake for him, he and his treasonous minions will pound the final nails into the coffin of America and will see to it that our Republic is completely destroyed.

I sure wish Chris Christie would run. He'd get my vote!

Yes....I am in contact with people who know him quite well and word with him....he is fine! MORE stable than BO that's for sure!

Ron Paul is the only Republican who can beat Obama
Submitted by RussellMeansFan on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 14:19

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Ron Paul is the only Republican who can beat Obama. He is almost the complete opposite of Obama. Whether it's war and foreign policy, civil liberties, monetary policy or domestic economic policy, Ron Paul's positions are in stark contrast to Obama's. The rest of the Republican field only differs in degree with Obama, not in principle. They are all dead horses guaranteed to make sure Obama is re-elected. They are all echoes to Ron Paul's choice.

http://www.dailypaul.com/174180/ron-paul-is-the-only-republican-who-can-beat-obama

He is in fine health.....quit the misinformation.....he recently played in a baseball game in DC house of reps and did well.....quit passing on rumors that have NO proof....you would have to have his medical records to know if he is in good health or not and I doubt you have those Foxy! Ron Paul is as strong as they come....he is the only one standing up to the status quo neo-cons and will be the saving grace of our Constitution....as the White Hats say....a vote for Paul is a vote for the Constitution.....what are you afraid of????

Shakes, I'm not afraid of anything except for O getting another 4. It has been reported in the news by interviewers that Ron Paul appears a little shaky and has aged much, and that's from folks on OUR side who have personally observed him (have you?). If you think that's "misinformation," you're entitled to your opinion. As much as I like, respect, and appreciate Ron Paul, there is no way that he will garner enough support to become the GOP candidate of choice. I'm just being realistic.

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:52 pm

shakes4life wrote:
FoxyRoxy wrote:
shakes4life wrote:
FoxyRoxy wrote:While I agree about Perry (I like him, but I don't TRUST him -- same with Romney), I feel that Ron Paul is completely unelectable. Also, it has been noted that his health seems to be deteriorating pretty rapidly as of late.

I don't know yet who I will support, but I do know that if the Republicans don't really come together and decide on a strong candidate and garner nationwide support for that candidate, we could very well be looking forward to four more years of unfettered, unabashed, unapologetic, no-holds-barred Marxism/Socialism/Statism (u pick the ideology) as they cram even MORE unconstitutional garbage down our throats and continue to erode our freedom. Since Obama will know that there will be nothing at stake for him, he and his treasonous minions will pound the final nails into the coffin of America and will see to it that our Republic is completely destroyed.

I sure wish Chris Christie would run. He'd get my vote!

Yes....I am in contact with people who know him quite well and word with him....he is fine! MORE stable than BO that's for sure!

Ron Paul is the only Republican who can beat Obama
Submitted by RussellMeansFan on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 14:19

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Ron Paul is the only Republican who can beat Obama. He is almost the complete opposite of Obama. Whether it's war and foreign policy, civil liberties, monetary policy or domestic economic policy, Ron Paul's positions are in stark contrast to Obama's. The rest of the Republican field only differs in degree with Obama, not in principle. They are all dead horses guaranteed to make sure Obama is re-elected. They are all echoes to Ron Paul's choice.

http://www.dailypaul.com/174180/ron-paul-is-the-only-republican-who-can-beat-obama

He is in fine health.....quit the misinformation.....he recently played in a baseball game in DC house of reps and did well.....quit passing on rumors that have NO proof....you would have to have his medical records to know if he is in good health or not and I doubt you have those Foxy! Ron Paul is as strong as they come....he is the only one standing up to the status quo neo-cons and will be the saving grace of our Constitution....as the White Hats say....a vote for Paul is a vote for the Constitution.....what are you afraid of????

Shakes, I'm not afraid of anything except for O getting another 4. It has been reported in the news by interviewers that Ron Paul appears a little shaky and has aged much, and that's from folks on OUR side who have personally observed him (have you?). If you think that's "misinformation," you're entitled to your opinion. As much as I like, respect, and appreciate Ron Paul, there is no way that he will garner enough support to become the GOP candidate of choice. I'm just being realistic.

Ron Paul is fine....he will be our next PREZ or it will be BO again....time to wake up.....if you love the constitution you vote Paul....otherwise you Vote four more years of the same BS.....

Ron Paul is the only Republican who can beat Obama
Submitted by RussellMeansFan on Sun, 08/14/2011 - 14:19

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Ron Paul is the only Republican who can beat Obama. He is almost the complete opposite of Obama. Whether it's war and foreign policy, civil liberties, monetary policy or domestic economic policy, Ron Paul's positions are in stark contrast to Obama's. The rest of the Republican field only differs in degree with Obama, not in principle. They are all dead horses guaranteed to make sure Obama is re-elected. They are all echoes to Ron Paul's choice.

http://www.dailypaul.com/174180/ron-paul-is-the-only-republican-who-can-beat-obama

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:55 pm

jcole wrote:Wow, That's a very Slanderous title! Sure hope you arent over speculating. For Ever supporting Rick Perry!!!!!!! And Damned proud to say I have felt so fortunate to have such a sane and well directed person as our Governor!!! I will miss having him in charge of our state when he is elected President of the United States of America!!!!! :flower:

That's NOT what a lot of other Texan's are saying....they can't stand him....I know lots of them....ever heard of Debra Medina....she was the true tea party candidate!

by shakes4life Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:00 pm

FoxyRoxy wrote:
DrMaDD wrote:I'm curious to understand what beliefs you are talking about, please enlighten me.

Well, here is just one place you can find some of Ron Paul's libertarian ideology. I consider myself more of a libertarian than a Republican, but I am much more conservative than Mr. Paul, and IMO and based upon what I know about him, he won't find enough support to win the GOP nomination.

http://www.nolanchart.com/article8169_Ron_Paul_IS_WRONG.html

Topic: Ron Paul
Ron Paul IS WRONG
Ron Paul is wrong in his policies, and is wrong for America.by Sarge Friday
(conservative)
Sunday, November 28, 2010

Ron Paul's refrain is that he is in fact the real conservative. This is far, correction, tremendously far from the truth. Ron Paul is an extremist, and a phony conservative. People get the false idea that libertarians like Dr. Paul are the same as conservatives. Though conservatives and libertarians do oppose collectivism, this is the only appreciable similarity between the two ideologies. Simply put, Ron Paul is not a conservative, and he is wrong. In this, I will discuss three ways in which Dr. Paul is wrong for America.

First, Ron Paul's foreign policy is a textbook example of the naive Jeffersonian school of thought. This school teaches that America must be aloof from the world stage and not "seek an empire", (e.g. Ron Paul's opposition to the War in Iraq). Tell me, how is defending yourself from crazed Jihadists bent on global chaos, "seeking an empire"? In the real world, we call it defending against wanton aggression.

Oh, but Dr. Paul goes further to assert that it is America's fault for the War on Terror and not the Jihadists. He continually cites our involvement in the region from support of Israel, to troops in Saudi Arabia, and our bombing Saddam Hussein back in the 90's. First off, does not Israel have a right to exist and defend itself from terrorists like Hamas and Fatah who want to push the Jews back into the sea? Obviously Dr. Paul doesn't think so. He was the only member of Congress to vote against a resolution condemning Palestinian rocket attacks against Israeli civilians.[1] Can't we all get together on condemning senseless violence against unarmed non-combatants? On the subject of Saudi Arabia, who was it that asked us to be there in the first place? Oh, right the Saudis themselves. And, how can anyone justify sitting idly by while Saddam Hussein tries to build a nuclear weapon? Hussein was a deranged menace, but let's not attack him right? It amazes me that Ron Paul will condemn any action at all against someone as evil as Saddam Hussein, but will not lift a finger to aid Israel, the only stable democracy in the Middle East.

Ron Paul's foreign policy is naive. He thinks that if we just ignore the terrorist threat and "come home America" (hmmmthat line seems awfully familiar), then the threat will disappear. Well, thank God, that Ron Paul has a magic wand and pixy dust to wave away America's national security problems.

Speaking of "pixy dust". Ron Paul's position on the War on Drugs is sheer lunacy. He wants us to give up on the War on Drugs and thinks that it is a lost cause. Perhaps there is a concept that Dr. Paul does not fully comprehend: that in a war, any war from Baghdad to Berkeley, there is "no substitute for victory". He doesn't get this fundamental, common sense principle in foreign policy, so why should we really expect him to understand the same concept applied to the War on Drugs? My question to Doctor Paul is: if we surrender in the War on Drugs then what is our alternative solution? Is it legalization? Is it rehabilitation?

Now, the Cheech and Chong fan club is going to hate me for saying this (which if you tick them off is really a sign you're doing something right), but neither rehabilitation nor legalization will solve the drug problem in America. Rehabilitation will weaken us, cripple law enforcement, and send a message to the drug cartels and kingpins that we have gone soft. People will also be more inclined to use drugs because now there are fewer penalties. It is almost like saying that murders would go down if we started murder rehabilitation.

Legalization, on the other hand, is not merely a joke but a dangerous idea. Think of the degradation of society if we allow this. If every teenager can get drugs cheap and legal, think of the consequences of an entire generation that is high. Legalization proponents say that they will "tax" it, but I think they are either stupid or lying. It is interesting to note that the same people who call taxation "theft" and abhor cigarette taxes are the same that support drug legalization.

The Swedish Army did a study involving 50,000 recruits. Those who at 18 admitted to regular use of cannabis were 6 times more likely to develop Schizophrenia in the next 15 years.[2] Yeah, that's exactly what we need: an entire generation of schizophrenic Americans who are stoned when showing up at school, work, home, and the ballot box. Tell me, is this what Doctor Paul wants?

The last issue I want to discuss is the people that Ron Paul keeps company with. I judge a man by the people he associates with. Why? For one thing it makes me wonder whether that person shares the same beliefs that his friends do. Also, how can you claim to be a man worthy of the Presidency, when you don't even display the character and discernment to denounce bad people?

Ron Paul either seeks the support of extremists, or fails to denounce them. I do not believe that Dr. Paul is a 9/11 conspiracy theorist. But, he does have a cozy relationship with "truthers" like Jesse Ventura and the John Birch Society. The John Birch Society was such an extremist group that in the 1960's William F. Buckley, Jr. and Barry Goldwater wrote them out of the conservative movement. Ron Paul has even received the endorsement of neo-Nazi skinheads and Ku Klux Klansmen![3] I'd like to know where is the repudiation of these racist, seditious, and treasonous organizations and people? If Ron Paul wants to be President of the United States, then he should first condemn those who call for the destruction of the very Constitution that he claims to cherish. And he should condemn the kooks who think that our own government (which Dr. Paul is a member of) would seriously "set up" the 9/11 attacks. To believe that "9/11 was an inside job" is insane and darn near treasonous. And, if Ron Paul truly loves this country, then he should condemn any of his supporters who hate this country.

In 1980, the KKK endorsed Ronald Reagan. Did Reagan receive it? Did he hide behind some lame excuse like, "I can't choose my supporters"? NO. Ronald Reagan publicly denounced the Klan and what they stood for. Ronald Reagan was a man of character and a giant. Ron Paul is just a small individual who can't fill a tenth of Reagan's shoes.

Ron Paul is wrong on foreign policy, drug policy, and in regard to his associations. I am glad that there are enough right-thinking Americans and Republicans out there to repudiate extremists and fringe candidates like Ron Paul. Let's set the record straight: Ron Paul is no conservative and no real Republican. He is, in my mind, no different from the RINOs and even the liberal Democrats. America will rue the day that Ron "Paul-icies" are ever enacted.

He believes in the Constitution....if you can't handle that then you are in the wrong country....maybe try Cuba or Venezuela for starters...I'm sure they would love you over there.....FREEDOM and LIBERTY is what we are lacking because the globalist are shredding our Constitution....time to quit putting out MISINFORMATION about RP.....try reading his books then maybe you will understand him better.....what you have written above is a lot of regurgitated PROPAGANDA that could NOT be further from the truth! GET informed!