Re: COULD THIS BE A SCAM? (This thread is 4 pages long-be sure to start at page 1 ) Would past posters of this please weigh in today?

[dinarstar]

I must ask myself this.
Why did I buy IQD?
I bought it speculating that it would RV in the future.
If at some stage prior to the RV I need to sell the dinar,and lose 28% on my purchase price,well,I lost 28%,not 100%.
If I bought property on spec. in the not too distant past,and paid 1 million for it,I would most likely not be in a happy place today,probably losing more than 28%.
Either of these scenarios come with some risk.
If I want to play the tables,I must place a bet.
Banks sold/sell IQD,are they "scammers" too I wonder?
I bought it,I will live with it,I own the dinar and I own the decision to buy it.
I for one am very happy with that.

[openmind]

I must ask myself this.
Why did I buy IQD?
I bought it speculating that it would RV in the future.
If at some stage prior to the RV I need to sell the dinar,and lose 28% on my purchase price,well,I lost 28%,not 100%.
If I bought property on spec. in the not too distant past,and paid 1 million for it,I would most likely not be in a happy place today,probably losing more than 28%.
Either of these scenarios come with some risk.
If I want to play the tables,I must place a bet.
Banks sold/sell IQD,are they "scammers" too I wonder?
I bought it,I will live with it,I own the dinar and I own the decision to buy it.
I for one am very happy with that.

[crawdaddy2x22]

I understad that speculating is risky. The problem I am having now is the thought that these so called guru,s are somehow connected to the people that are selling them. To tell you how green I am at this, until I found this site 3-4 weeks ago that thought had never accured to me. Other then picking out a 401k plan, I have never even played the lotto. I saw a post earlier today that they thought that the guru's where being watched, I hope so. Alot of these people are using the lords name in their chats and briefings. I hope for their sakes and soles they are on the up and up. Its seems like it wouldn't take CSI Bagdad to find a money trail if it is being done.

[renny123]

selling dinar is not a scam, it is currency. What could be a scam is the crazy intel that we are getting. Maybe they just report the best that they can, but there is an awful lot of pumping and exagerating.

[Rustedbolt]

I got my share of Dinars after I was told by many smarter than myself to take my money and invest elsewere... Impulse buying after a friend bent my ear about the Dinar... Now after my own research on the dinar I do believe I jumped the gun again but what the heck ... Is there anyone back in Iraq we can call and say , hey, what's the deal about the dinar? I'm not a guru or a whodo or a czar, I'm a wizard, just not real good at it yet.. In all honesty, I hope for the people that are in hard times right now and have a few dinars that the rv is a real option and that it could happen soon..

[Rustedbolt]

Oh , one more thing, that friend that bent my ear about the dinar is still my friend..

[DevaronDLH]

If you folks really believe this is a scam please consider selling your dinar and getting out of this investment... those of us that understand the reality of the words investment, also understand that like most, if not all investments you have no control over what happens or when or how...
You can get most of your money back just selling it back to the dealer you bought it from, you can also offer what you have for sale on Ebay or perhaps here, I bet there are folks here that would buy you out...
It seems like every 4th or 5th day someone asks the same old question, IS this a scam? NO IT IS NOT. WE LEAVE THE SCAMS TO THE BANKS AND WALL STREET AND FOLKS LIKE THAT...

[Leliu5th]

I must ask myself this.
Why did I buy IQD?
I bought it speculating that it would RV in the future.
If at some stage prior to the RV I need to sell the dinar,and lose 28% on my purchase price,well,I lost 28%,not 100%.
If I bought property on spec. in the not too distant past,and paid 1 million for it,I would most likely not be in a happy place today,probably losing more than 28%.
Either of these scenarios come with some risk.
If I want to play the tables,I must place a bet.
Banks sold/sell IQD,are they "scammers" too I wonder?
I bought it,I will live with it,I own the dinar and I own the decision to buy it.
I for one am very happy with that.

RIGHT ON SISTA, RIGHT ON..I say in joyous agreement! :cheers:

[khentges]

Ye of little faith.............Leave!!!!!!!!!!!

[bigdaddytim]

Maybe if I could get one of the paid moderator positions I would be less skeptical.....or at least I could fake it.

[Kevind53]

Maybe if I could get one of the paid moderator positions I would be less skeptical.....or at least I could fake it.

Well if you can find one I am sure we would all like to know ... cause we sure ain't!

[openmind]

Maybe if I could get one of the paid moderator positions I would be less skeptical.....or at least I could fake it.

Hes got it!!!

[openmind]

Do the mods at OOM get paid? Just curious?

[Rustedbolt]

Here's a question. Don't web site owners make money through ads on the site? I'm sure they do. You don't get $10.00 off when you mention my name at purchase time. Just don't seem right.

[openmind]

Here's a question. Don't web site owners make money through ads on the site? I'm sure they do. You don't get $10.00 off when you mention my name at purchase time. Just don't seem right.

I would disagree, if you own a website, you should be able to reap the benefits. It isn't right if there is a bunch of misleading information. but nothing wrong with making money honestly. This is why many of us bash PTR!

[topspin2]

This will not happen anytime soon. And those who are fooled by this misinformation posted need to reconsider their belief system. No intel has ever been proven to be accurate, NOTHING....Not Okie's, Bulldog, Jonnys, Bear...Always have been 100% wrong. Think people think!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Rustedbolt]

Openmind,

I like this.

"People want to see real hope restored, not false hope hyped up!" ---Me

[enceladus]

The Dinar, the legitimate currency of Iraq, is not a scam. Promoting or selling the the Dinar under the pretext that it will RV imminently, with a high rate of return, is the scam. The gurus (including many who post here) are guilty of perpretating the scam for their own personal gain. They make money though dinar sales or their web-site advertising while driving false hope to those in despair. They are frauds and cowards and anyone who believes them is a fool.

[Rustedbolt]

That hit the nail on the head...

[Ponee]

Do the mods at OOM get paid? Just curious?

No, at least not in monetary pay. I personally have been paid extensively in friendship, enlightenment, and entertainment.

[Rustedbolt]

Other risks I take are lottery tickets. I get 1 or 2 a week and hold on to them for a few months and then take them all back up to the store to run them under the scanner to see if I won. A little joke at the store is my tickets go from potential million dollar winners to toilet paper for the week. I hope my dinars don't end up as toilet paper.

[Guest]

of course its a scam! Anything dealing is fiat currency is a scam upon the people! Its how you use it, that makes the difference. AJ

[openmind]

of course its a scam! Anything dealing is fiat currency is a scam upon the people! Its how you use it, that makes the difference. AJ

Lol sir. But you have to admit that while we have fiat currency in our dollars, the concerns raised about the Dinar Investment are very real!

[GivingGodTheGlory]

This will not happen anytime soon. And those who are fooled by this misinformation posted need to reconsider their belief system. No intel has ever been proven to be accurate, NOTHING....Not Okie's, Bulldog, Jonnys, Bear...Always have been 100% wrong. Think people think!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So TOPSPIN2 if you think this site and Okie (Bulldog, Bear, etc.) are so worthless than PLEASE LEAVE THIS SITE. These people have given us much that has been accurate. Of course, nobody has been correct 100% of the time...we are all learning together as we walk thru this journey. Without faith it is impossible to please God. We are walking by faith, step by step, and know that we have been led to this investment. We are not here to tearn one another down but to build each other up. It appears that you just want to come on here and cause trouble and be hurtful. May God have mercy on you, TopSpin2.

[Kevind53]

Do the mods at OOM get paid? Just curious?

We wish! LOL!

[openmind]

GivingGodTheGlory, please give me one example of 'positive' intel which has been 'accurate.'? Just curious what your referring to?

[topspin2]

Glory, All I have done is bring up the obvious. Deceipt and lies from SOME of the gooroos. I am sure some are responsible honest people. Some profit from their lies. Now go ask your GOD for forgiveness for passing judgement and Remember, LOVE THY NEIGHBOR!.....Practice what you preach ....DUDE....

[Kevind53]

The Dinar, the legitimate currency of Iraq, is not a scam. Promoting or selling the the Dinar under the pretext that it will RV imminently, with a high rate of return, is the scam. The gurus (including many who post here) are guilty of perpretating the scam for their own personal gain. They make money though dinar sales or their web-site advertising while driving false hope to those in despair. They are frauds and cowards and anyone who believes them is a fool.

First of all ... the people associated with this site do not get paid, period. Secondly, the "guru's" in this section ARE NOT people associated with this site. This section is for info brought over from other sites for you to glean through. If something makes sense to you and rings true then take it, if not then don't, but always remember that scuttlebutt = gossip & rumors, and judge accordingly .. . and we call this section Scuttlebutt From Elsewhere for a reason!

Last but not least ... Do not degrade or discredit, slander or use offensive comments against other forums, their admins and mods or their members.

[Gfussell]

Yes, this has every possibility of being a scam. However, the evidence of what I've read proofs otherwise. Everyone should do their homework and make the choice themselves to invest in this opportunity. Like any investment, there is no guarantee. Besides, most of the guys on these websites seem to be Christian people. If they're using God as a front for their gain, financially or otherwise, God will deal with them in his own way and time.

I get discouraged as well. I read post on this site and dinar caps site. I see the same things each day. And each day says the same thing; "we are there, everything is done, we will see it tomorrow," But so far tomorrow has never come. But there is still that hope and trust that this investment will come soon. If it is to be, it will occur in Gods own time, when he feels it is best.

My wife and I did not purchase many dinar,,,we purchased enough to pay off our debts, or at least what we could afford to purchase, and that is what I suggest to everyone else. Only purchase what you need or what you can afford. That way, the investment will not hender your living expenses.

Keep up the good work guys....keep that info flowing. We are all TRUSTING in you to be on the up and up with this investment. And remember, IF it is a scam, God will deal with you in his own way and time.

fussman

[spirit144]

[Kevin53] Thank you Sir, for your honesty, and clarification on the operations of the scam. I caught that same scene, listening in on a cc. And I thought I was hearing things. The speaker actually was so full of himself, he tied a couple of dealers and his team together and he didn't realize it. That's when I realized that they were working together to boost dinar sales. Im glad to know Im not crazy.

[openmind]

Im really shocked that this thread has grown this far without being locked or deleted!

[elvishd1]

This will be over soon...one way or the other.

[Purpleskyz]

That sure is the truth devilish1... er I mean elvishd.

[Kevind53]

[Kevin53] Thank you Sir, for your honesty, and clarification on the operations of the scam. I caught that same scene, listening in on a cc. And I thought I was hearing things. The speaker actually was so full of himself, he tied a couple of dealers and his team together and he didn't realize it. That's when I realized that they were working together to boost dinar sales. Im glad to know Im not crazy.

HUH?

[1alaskan]

Do the mods at OOM get paid? Just curious?

We wish! LOL!

Only if you count abuse as a form of payment.

[Kevind53]

YOu do have a point there 1Alaskan ... :geek:

[Rustedbolt]

I wonder if this has ever been looked into by the guy's that look into scam's? How can something like this go on for this long and nothing ever be said on TV new's or radio talk show's? What's so secret about it? Why doesn't Wal-Mart sell dinar's?

[topspin2]

Walmarts shelves are full of product from China. No room for dinar.....

[openmind]

Do the mods at OOM get paid? Just curious?

We wish! LOL!

Only if you count abuse as a form of payment.

Oh no is Miske abusing you? LOL!

[bigdaddytim]

Openmind, my Brother, you are going to end up getting yourself banned just like I did!! LOL!! I think it is hilarious!! It's ok to question, just don't do it out loud!!!!

[Rustedbolt]

I just wonder how many dinars are sold every time someone of knowledge sez, I know it's gonna happen on Good Friday, the star's are lined up just right and my corn's don't hurt no more... but if it don't happen, how does Thursday sound? or ?? Monday better? It was gonna happen since the day I purchased my gold mine... Every day of the week, you just wait and see... ... Just go out there and read the past post's. Sometime it's funny when you read past posts and see all the build up then see who's turn it is to come online and let you down.. Sorry, not today. but tomorrow at midnight when the werewolf comes out on the full moon and eat's your girlfriend, I hope she has insurance..

[Kevind53]

Openmind, my Brother, you are going to end up getting yourself banned just like I did!! LOL!! I think it is hilarious!! It's ok to question, just don't do it out loud!!!!

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[CarterB]

Two Cents... As I have now listened to a few calls, they remind me of the several network marketing calls I used to listen in on. I was going to be rich from all my FHTM sales, my Amway sales, my Quorum sales etc. Well, in 1994 I found another source of riches in the person of Jesus Christ. Today though I do not walk a perfect walk, I am rich in more ways than most people I know who have more material things and money than I.

In trying to evaluate this investment, I would agree with Gfussell above... Purchase enough Dinar if you want to take the risk and don't put all your eggs into one basket. It's greed that got America into the mess we are in now to be honest and if you can't join me in that assessment then you aren't realistic. No I'm the furthest thing from a socialist or liberal that you'll ever run into; but when I have heard a few folks mention buying more Dinar simply to pad their wallet with more money, I wonder how much it will take for some of us to be happy. Should this work out and I hope it does, much of our funds will go to help others who are not as financially well off.

Three years ago I found myself in the hospital for over 5 weeks with MRSA throughout my bloodstream. They gave me not so good odds at one juncture. Once you've understood that this deal here isn't forvever and you'll be "moving on" one day, you might agree with me that even with the world settlements and restructuring of international money, we will see just as much greed, just as much dishonesty and just as many scams as before. Is this a scam? I guess I got into it because a close friend who believed in it shared it with me. He knew I had been through some hard financial burdens and at 56 years old my wife and I both hold good jobs but are living in a 28 ft. travel trailer in Northern Wyoming and slowly paying off our bills. Would the Dinar help. Oh boy you bet it would. Am I going to work Monday? Yes. Does this mean I don't have faith in the Dinar? No. Does this mean I am learning patience and must stay grounded in what I do have control of (which isn't much)? Yes.

So be well all you fellow Dinar holders. Quit making this thing out to your friends as though you are going to be rich and keep quiet and stay focused on your responsibilities. When the Lord decides He wants to revalue a currency ironically from what once was Babylon... you think He expects each of the Dinar holders are going to be responsible and share their blessings or you think He's gonna watch us run to the nearest bank like a wild person and quickly seclude ourselves from society? Which one are you? What would you do tomorrow morning if you had $3 or $20 million in the bank? Will it change who you are? Will you fill up with arrogance and greed and go spend a bunch right away or have you thought through a plan by which you understandably will take care of your own needs but also help some others in need. As God looks at each of our hearts we need to be asking ourselves these questions.

I've heard that some have invested 300 thousand or even 30 million in this Dinar. If you had that much to invest, certainly your bills are all paid right? If you are behind the Dinar sales in one form or another, we'll find you out and the truth will be revealed. Common sense tells me that Iraq must have a form of tradeable currency. At some point in order to function as a sovereign independent government there must be a means of currency. We hope for the best outcome and are excited, but if you are consumed by this over your love for Jesus Christ, be careful. God bless each of you.

[Jayzze]

only thing that is a scam is the bs from most of the gurus i will happen one day since iraq will hve no choice due to the oil trade but you might not like the rate i believe it will come out in the 1 or 1.25 range but lets get er done

[LookingAtTheHeavens]

Two Cents... As I have now listened to a few calls, they remind me of the several network marketing calls I used to listen in on. I was going to be rich from all my FHTM sales, my Amway sales, my Quorum sales etc. Well, in 1994 I found another source of riches in the person of Jesus Christ. Today though I do not walk a perfect walk, I am rich in more ways than most people I know who have more material things and money than I.

In trying to evaluate this investment, I would agree with Gfussell above... Purchase enough Dinar if you want to take the risk and don't put all your eggs into one basket. It's greed that got America into the mess we are in now to be honest and if you can't join me in that assessment then you aren't realistic. No I'm the furthest thing from a socialist or liberal that you'll ever run into; but when I have heard a few folks mention buying more Dinar simply to pad their wallet with more money, I wonder how much it will take for some of us to be happy. Should this work out and I hope it does, much of our funds will go to help others who are not as financially well off.

Three years ago I found myself in the hospital for over 5 weeks with MRSA throughout my bloodstream. They gave me not so good odds at one juncture. Once you've understood that this deal here isn't forvever and you'll be "moving on" one day, you might agree with me that even with the world settlements and restructuring of international money, we will see just as much greed, just as much dishonesty and just as many scams as before. Is this a scam? I guess I got into it because a close friend who believed in it shared it with me. He knew I had been through some hard financial burdens and at 56 years old my wife and I both hold good jobs but are living in a 28 ft. travel trailer in Northern Wyoming and slowly paying off our bills. Would the Dinar help. Oh boy you bet it would. Am I going to work Monday? Yes. Does this mean I don't have faith in the Dinar? No. Does this mean I am learning patience and must stay grounded in what I do have control of (which isn't much)? Yes.

So be well all you fellow Dinar holders. Quit making this thing out to your friends as though you are going to be rich and keep quiet and stay focused on your responsibilities. When the Lord decides He wants to revalue a currency ironically from what once was Babylon... you think He expects each of the Dinar holders are going to be responsible and share their blessings or you think He's gonna watch us run to the nearest bank like a wild person and quickly seclude ourselves from society? Which one are you? What would you do tomorrow morning if you had $3 or $20 million in the bank? Will it change who you are? Will you fill up with arrogance and greed and go spend a bunch right away or have you thought through a plan by which you understandably will take care of your own needs but also help some others in need. As God looks at each of our hearts we need to be asking ourselves these questions.

I've heard that some have invested 300 thousand or even 30 million in this Dinar. If you had that much to invest, certainly your bills are all paid right? If you are behind the Dinar sales in one form or another, we'll find you out and the truth will be revealed. Common sense tells me that Iraq must have a form of tradeable currency. At some point in order to function as a sovereign independent government there must be a means of currency. We hope for the best outcome and are excited, but if you are consumed by this over your love for Jesus Christ, be careful. God bless each of you.

Wow! Amen!

[dinarstar]

only thing that is a scam is the bs from most of the gurus i will happen one day since iraq will hve no choice due to the oil trade but you might not like the rate i believe it will come out in the 1 or 1.25 range but lets get er done

Thanks for sharing that,do you have a link?
1 to 1 will work fine for me

[Leliu5th]

This will not happen anytime soon. And those who are fooled by this misinformation posted need to reconsider their belief system. No intel has ever been proven to be accurate, NOTHING....Not Okie's, Bulldog, Jonnys, Bear...Always have been 100% wrong. Think people think!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So TOPSPIN2 if you think this site and Okie (Bulldog, Bear, etc.) are so worthless than PLEASE LEAVE THIS SITE. These people have given us much that has been accurate. Of course, nobody has been correct 100% of the time...we are all learning together as we walk thru this journey. Without faith it is impossible to please God. We are walking by faith, step by step, and know that we have been led to this investment. We are not here to tearn one another down but to build each other up. It appears that you just want to come on here and cause trouble and be hurtful. May God have mercy on you, TopSpin2.

Whoa Dude..OMG! how can exchanging foreign currency be a SCAM?? Just because it is not on the World Market does not mean anything except for, we await the currency to be on The World Market so we can exchange it!
I remember sailing the West Indies January of 2010, and I stopped in a bank on the Island of Granada to exchange my USD for the East Caribbean Dollar. The rate was $2.78 ECD=$1.00 USD...of course I exchanged my currency, it went a lot further.
Just saying..be patient and do not hang on every word, we are here to be informed, not to slam one another just because what you read, is not what you want to see....I will light a candle and pray for you, because GOD has a special place for you, GOD has a special place for all of us, you just need to have faith...not hate. 8)

[topspin2]

Thanks for the insight 5th....happy sailing....

[Kevind53]

I just had to laugh ... I have been reading the same old stuff for days ... and realized that not only do most of the gurus have nothing to say, neither do the anti-gurus ... LOL it just goes round and round! :happyjoy:

[fs747623]

NOT A SCAM.

[fs747623]

Follow the Iraq news, this is HAPPENING sometime, and 99% this week! no one knows the rate, but iraq news article said equal to US dollar, some say $3 to match budget! This is a NO BRAINER! Some weird info around but if you can buy a million IQD for $1100 or $1200 and can sell back for $800 or $900 anytime then just a 20%( couple of hundred dollars) risk for making Millions!