Re: AMERICAN CITIZEN KILLED WITHOUT TRIAL

by shakes4life Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:53 pm

rick152 wrote:
openmind wrote:
rick152 wrote:
openmind wrote:

I completely understand your point and passion towards our security. But here is the deal, when a thief or burglar is caught in the act and attempts to flee or cause more nuisance, the cops get to shoot him.

On the other hand, this individual (who I am no fan of) is a terrorist who has said many offensive and anti-american things. But he was on a kill list, without a trial. This legal technicality is what I feel is a dangerous.

No this is the same kind of legal question that arises with the Libyan conflict. Should we fight a war just because the UN told us to or because the Congress and people declare war? Furthermore, do you really want Presidents having this kind of illegal power (especially considering some of the candidates)?

I would also like to point out that this specific individual has had dinner at the Pentagon. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/10/20/al-qaeda-terror-leader-dined-pentagon-months/ .

Openmind I respect your opinion but here is mine......Blah Blah BLAH With your "liberal rhetoric" KILL THEM ALL...rick152

"First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me." ---Pastor Martin Niemöller

Rick 152: BTW, if not wanting to kill Americans without a trial or due process makes me a "liberal," so be it. As far as I know it was a conservative who freed the slaves and a liberal movement which brought forth the Civil Rights Act of 1964. There are merits and demerits on both sides.

I agree there are bad on both sides of the isle... But this guy was not a American he was a traitor...rick152

Sorry rick....you aren't getting the point.....

by Nav Sat Oct 01, 2011 1:59 pm

tlw

WELL SAID!

by Nav Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:18 pm

Roketman

GREAT POINTS!

Which why Ron Paul has little chance in being the Republican Candidate... his foreign policies are a bit naive, though I like most of his domestic views...

by shakes4life Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:21 pm

Nav wrote:Roketman

GREAT POINTS!

Which why Ron Paul has little chance in being the Republican Candidate... his foreign policies are a bit naive, though I like most of his domestic views...

I have often wondered how the German people could have ever allowed Hitler to rise to power and give him such support. Now that I've witnessed the same progression in the US, I get it. These are very dangerous times.

People need to wake up and repent now before it's too late.

by Nav Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:32 pm

openmind

Where did you get the idea that "UN told us to declare war?"

Obviously, President Obama declared war on Libya without Congressional approval and you're now worried about what some of the Republican Candidates would do...

I am only worried about what the current president is or will be doing until he is voted out in 2012... I am not worried about Ron Paul becausse he will not be a candidate...

by shakes4life Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:41 pm

Nav wrote:
openmind

Where did you get the idea that "UN told us to declare war?"

Obviously, President Obama declared war on Libya without Congressional approval and you're now worried about what some of the Republican Candidates would do...

I am only worried about what the current president is or will be doing until he is voted out in 2012... I am not worried about Ron Paul becausse he will not be a candidate...

If Ron Paul is not the republican nomination you better start worrying big time....that means the NEO CONS have FIXED THE ELECTIONS again and we are in for more of the same BULLCRAP....Time to wake up the sheep again........BAAAAAA!

When The President Can Kill Who Ever He Wants

by Alchemist Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:43 pm

Awlaki:

Key issue - He could have been legally charged, detained and prosecuted (Constitutional) by the FBI but this is the way THEY CHOSE to deal with him?

If he was such a threat, why was he PERMITTED for so long. Further, the moral controversy is thus: his death was likely justified in the minds of most Westerners. The case is obfuscated by emotional fallacies. "Justice" as defined by rule of law" has been circumvented. Further, there is likely culpability on behalf of three-letter agencies in not bringing their "compelling" evidence to the U.S. legal system to prevent further harm long ago.

by shakes4life Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:44 pm

You folks better get a clue.... When you've been herded like sheep into the gas chamber and the door is shut, it will be too freakin' late to stop these fascist bastards!

Ron Paul: The Only One We Can Trust

by wes Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:45 pm

shakes4life wrote:
wes wrote:Unbelievable. Well not really. Maybe "The Good Doctor" doesn't understand that this is a war. If this guy wants to saddle up with the other side....so be it. I don't recall a whole lot of trials these terrorists have supplied the innocent soldiers, women, men, and children they have "assasinated".

NO you don't understand....you have been lied to and deceived by these people in power and you are STILL buying their NONSENSE.......it's called BRAINWASHING......turn off your BOOB TUBE and do some critical thinking for a change.....THE GOOD DOCTOR IS THE ONLY ONE MAKING ANY SENSE!!!

Please stop the dang lecturing. You act like you are the ONLY person in the entire world that knows anything. You act like if somebody doesn't agree withyou that they are stupid, sheep, brainwashed, etc. I've seen this man speak. I've heard what he had to say. I don't need you or anybody else to tell me what he had to say about our country.

by shakes4life Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:48 pm

wes wrote:
shakes4life wrote:
wes wrote:Unbelievable. Well not really. Maybe "The Good Doctor" doesn't understand that this is a war. If this guy wants to saddle up with the other side....so be it. I don't recall a whole lot of trials these terrorists have supplied the innocent soldiers, women, men, and children they have "assasinated".

NO you don't understand....you have been lied to and deceived by these people in power and you are STILL buying their NONSENSE.......it's called BRAINWASHING......turn off your BOOB TUBE and do some critical thinking for a change.....THE GOOD DOCTOR IS THE ONLY ONE MAKING ANY SENSE!!!
Please stop the dang lecturing. You act like you are the ONLY person in the entire world that knows anything. You act like if somebody doesn't agree withyou that they are stupid, sheep, brainwashed, etc. I've seen this man speak. I've heard what he had to say. I don't need you or anybody else to tell me what he had to say about our country.

BAAAA...BAAAAA...more sheeple speak.....No One asked you to click on this thread.... Better get a clue sheep.....

Ron Paul: The Only One We Can Trust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?src_vid=1HTH6GT3os4&v=ohKz9OeiI0g&annotation_id=annotation_991992&feature=iv

by wes Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:54 pm

shakes4life wrote:
wes wrote:
shakes4life wrote:
wes wrote:Unbelievable. Well not really. Maybe "The Good Doctor" doesn't understand that this is a war. If this guy wants to saddle up with the other side....so be it. I don't recall a whole lot of trials these terrorists have supplied the innocent soldiers, women, men, and children they have "assasinated".

NO you don't understand....you have been lied to and deceived by these people in power and you are STILL buying their NONSENSE.......it's called BRAINWASHING......turn off your BOOB TUBE and do some critical thinking for a change.....THE GOOD DOCTOR IS THE ONLY ONE MAKING ANY SENSE!!!
Please stop the dang lecturing. You act like you are the ONLY person in the entire world that knows anything. You act like if somebody doesn't agree withyou that they are stupid, sheep, brainwashed, etc. I've seen this man speak. I've heard what he had to say. I don't need you or anybody else to tell me what he had to say about our country.

BAAAA...BAAAAA...more sheeple speak.....No One asked you to click on this thread.......most likely when you've been herded like sheep into the gas chamber and the door is shut, it will be too freakin' late to stop these fascist bastards! Better get a clue sheep.....

Ron Paul: The Only One We Can Trust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?src_vid=1HTH6GT3os4&v=ohKz9OeiI0g&annotation_id=annotation_991992&feature=iv

Why don't you go cram your head a little further up Ron Paul's tailend?

by shakes4life Sat Oct 01, 2011 2:56 pm

wes wrote:
shakes4life wrote:
wes wrote:
shakes4life wrote:
wes wrote:Unbelievable. Well not really. Maybe "The Good Doctor" doesn't understand that this is a war. If this guy wants to saddle up with the other side....so be it. I don't recall a whole lot of trials these terrorists have supplied the innocent soldiers, women, men, and children they have "assasinated".

NO you don't understand....you have been lied to and deceived by these people in power and you are STILL buying their NONSENSE.......it's called BRAINWASHING......turn off your BOOB TUBE and do some critical thinking for a change.....THE GOOD DOCTOR IS THE ONLY ONE MAKING ANY SENSE!!!
Please stop the dang lecturing. You act like you are the ONLY person in the entire world that knows anything. You act like if somebody doesn't agree withyou that they are stupid, sheep, brainwashed, etc. I've seen this man speak. I've heard what he had to say. I don't need you or anybody else to tell me what he had to say about our country.

BAAAA...BAAAAA...more sheeple speak.....No One asked you to click on this thread.......most likely when you've been herded like sheep into the gas chamber and the door is shut, it will be too freakin' late to stop these fascist bastards! Better get a clue sheep.....

Ron Paul: The Only One We Can Trust

https://www.youtube.com/watch?src_vid=1HTH6GT3os4&v=ohKz9OeiI0g&annotation_id=annotation_991992&feature=iv

Why don't you go cram your head a little further up Ron Paul's tailend?

NICE....that's what YOU SHEEP DO.....you are the cramming type....NOT ME....I love Dr. Paul for his honesty and love of FREEDOM......BAAA.....BAAA....wes! So Sad you hate our constitution and those who fight for it......why not try Cuba for a while....I'm sure the Castro brother's could use you instantly over there!!!

by kirkl Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:03 pm

wes wrote:
shakes4life wrote:
wes wrote:Unbelievable. Well not really. Maybe "The Good Doctor" doesn't understand that this is a war. If this guy wants to saddle up with the other side....so be it. I don't recall a whole lot of trials these terrorists have supplied the innocent soldiers, women, men, and children they have "assasinated".

NO you don't understand....you have been lied to and deceived by these people in power and you are STILL buying their NONSENSE.......it's called BRAINWASHING......turn off your BOOB TUBE and do some critical thinking for a change.....THE GOOD DOCTOR IS THE ONLY ONE MAKING ANY SENSE!!!
Please stop the dang lecturing. You act like you are the ONLY person in the entire world that knows anything. You act like if somebody doesn't agree withyou that they are stupid, sheep, brainwashed, etc. I've seen this man speak. I've heard what he had to say. I don't need you or anybody else to tell me what he had to say about our country.

You said before that you didn't like Paul because he thinks our government was behind 911..He never said or implied that...you haven't been listening to him very well

Your perception of the world is being challenged so you fight back and stay in denial...acceptance is the beginning of healing..denial will get you no where

by kirkl Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:11 pm

Nav wrote:
openmind

Where did you get the idea that "UN told us to declare war?"

Obviously, President Obama declared war on Libya without Congressional approval and you're now worried about what some of the Republican Candidates would do...

I am only worried about what the current president is or will be doing until he is voted out in 2012... I am not worried about Ron Paul becausse he will not be a candidate...

Do us all a favor and do some research on topics like...ILLUMINATI...NEW WORLD ORDER...GLOBAL ELITE
You may begin to realize whats really going on

by openmind Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:29 pm

Nav wrote:
openmind

Where did you get the idea that "UN told us to declare war?"

Obviously, President Obama declared war on Libya without Congressional approval and you're now worried about what some of the Republican Candidates would do...

I am only worried about what the current president is or will be doing until he is voted out in 2012... I am not worried about Ron Paul becausse he will not be a candidate...

by shakes4life Sat Oct 01, 2011 3:56 pm

Thank you openmind.....good info! Smile