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PostSubject: Re: Utilizing YOUR Treasury Direct Accounts   Sat Aug 19, 2017 4:24 pm

Debunk all you want, ALL IS WELL! Go TDA!!!!!!!!!!!! yes
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PostSubject: Re: Utilizing YOUR Treasury Direct Accounts   Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:20 am

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I ask respectfully... can you provide even one single valid receipt that you can prove was paid via a TDA account? Then show next month that it indeed cleared such as on a utility billing statement?
Can anyone?

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PostSubject: Re: Utilizing YOUR Treasury Direct Accounts   Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:14 pm

avauinc wrote:
Debunk all you want, ALL IS WELL! Go TDA!!!!!!!!!!!! yes


Here's a news article for you avauinc.




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YouTube video tricking consumers on how to pay bills using Social Security numbers

Susan Tompor, Detroit Free Press Personal Finance Columnist  Published 10:00 a.m. ET Aug. 20, 2017 | Updated 10:01 a.m. ET Aug. 20, 2017






People who make resolutions on money matters tend to feel better about the state of their finances, said Ken Hevert, senior vice president of Retirement at Fidelity. Newslook



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Here's some sorry news this summer: There's no secret cash stash out there to pay your utility bills or your old outstanding debts with the state.


Consumers are getting swept into some scams across the country that promise a way to use special bank routing numbers supposedly from the United States government to cover their bills.


In some cases, they're watching a You Tube video published by "Money Boy Filmz" called "I paid my bills using my Social Security number." Another is titled: "Believe you can pay bills with your Social Security." 
One web site notes: "Pay all bills now with your no-longer secret Social Security Trust Account."


Ron Leix, a spokesperson for the Michigan Department of Treasury, said the state collections department spotted a pattern of payments in the past month that seemed strange.  


By re-examining the account numbers being used to pay bills, staff members noticed that individuals had been trying to pay old state debts by using routing numbers from two U.S. Department of Treasury bureaus -- the Financial Management Service and the Bureau of Public Debt.


"Individuals are using these federal routing numbers with their Social Security Number as the checking account number and listing the bank as either FMS or the BPD," the state treasury department said.



A form of tax protest








Leix said the strategy seems to be one promoted by tax protest groups and others. 


Reportedly groups are holding seminars throughout the United States to fraudulently teach consumers how to use these tricks to resolve their outstanding government debts. 


"It just won't work," Leix said. "It's just not a valid method of payment for any outstanding debt." 
A similar type of alert went out by Alabama Power this summer.


Ike Pigott, a communications specialist for Alabama Power, said more than 140 Alabama Power customers since early July have followed the unusual payment advice on websites and videos that promise to pay your bills somehow via Bureau of Public Debt.


Somehow, people are being told that your Social Security number is all that you need to unlock payment from a “corporate account” that was established by the government in your name.


Since mid-July, DTE Energy has seen about 1,000 payments that have been returned as a result of customers attempting to use the Federal Reserve routing number.


"These payments initially came back to us as a “returned payment, which is similar to a NSF (non-sufficient funds)," said Jill M. Wilmot, manager of corporate communications for DTE Energy. 


She said that when the utility discovered the reason for the returned payments, DTE implemented a safeguard with its payment processing partners that results in a real-time payment rejection when the customer tries to submit a payment using the Federal Reserve routing number.


DTE also contacted its internal security group and its financial institution to make them aware of possible fraud issues.


"Any customer who tries to use this routing number will receive a rejected payment notification, and is still expected to submit payment with a legitimate payment method," Wilmot said.


Not paying the bill can result in a shut-off notification followed by termination of service.



Not a way out of trouble








The idea that anyone might fall for this could sound laughable, if some people weren't naturally hopeful to find an easy way out of their troubles. 


"Any video, text, email, phone call, flyer or website that describes how to pay bills using a Federal Reserve routing number or using an account at the Federal Reserve Bank is a scam," according to a statement by the Federal Reserve Banks. 


The Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta issued an alert this summer stating that the Fed has receive a "number of unauthorized transactions in which consumers have tried to use the Fed's routing numbers and their Social Security numbers to pay their bills."


The Fed went so far to state the obvious: "It is important for consumers to know that when making online or e-check bill payments, they cannot use Federal Reserve routing numbers."


The Fed's routing numbers are used to sort and process payments between banks. 


Consumers run into trouble when they panic about their bills or they try such crazy bill paying strategies.
If you try to use a Fed routing number that you find online to pay a bill, it might look like it was approved initially in some cases. But ultimately the utility, state treasury or other entity is going to reject the payment and return it as unpaid. And you could be subject to late fees or other penalties. 


Consumers Energy said it hasn't seen its customers attempting to use federal routing numbers to resolve outstanding bills.


But Consumers Energy is aware of another scam. Callers can pretend to be from Consumers Energy and demand immediate payment using a gift card or prepaid debit card. 


"We’re aware of over 1,300 reports of such scam attempts this year, with customers paying out over $45,000 to scammers," said Brian Wheeler, senior public information director for Consumers Energy.


Other scam alerts








1) Don't fall for the "federal grant to pay your utility bill" scam. 
Con artists are telling consumers that all they need to do to get a grant to pay their bills for one month is call a particular phone number, provide some information and their current monthly gas or electric bills will be credited in full. No real cash would need to be handed over.


The problem, of course, is that you might have just handed over your Social Security number or other ID to a con artist who then sells the data on the black market or uses your ID to file a tax return in your name to claim a refund and create headaches for you later down the line. 


And there is no such grant -- so you still haven't paid off your utility bill. 


2) Don't "verify" your Social Security number over the phone. 
Consumer watchdogs say callers are posing as Social Security employees and asking to verify your "Social Security" number over the phone. 


The Office of Inspector General Social Security Administration has stated that fraudsters who pretend to be from Social Security generally ask for your Social Security number, date of birth, your mother's maiden name, or your bank account number. 


The scam artist pretending to be from Social Security might even state that "the Social Security computers are down" and they need this information now. 


The impersonator may state that "the SSA computers are down" or may refer to enrollment in the Medicare prescription drug program


You can call Social Security directly at 800-772-1213 before handing over your information. If you initiated contact with a Social Security office, it's possible you would get a call but you should verify any call before handing over personal ID information. 

Contact Susan Tompor: stompor@freepress.com or 313-222-8876. Follow Susan on Twitter @Tompor. 


http://www.dinardaily.net/t66424-usa-today-youtube-video-tricking-consumers-on-how-to-pay-bills-using-social-security-numbers-8-20-17
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PostSubject: Re: Utilizing YOUR Treasury Direct Accounts   Mon Aug 21, 2017 11:50 pm

avauinc wrote:
Debunk all you want, ALL IS WELL! Go TDA!!!!!!!!

From the recent articles I have seen, the only places you will go if you attempt this are to court and to jail !! Otherwise you will just end up paying NSF fees on top of all your bills.


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PostSubject: Re: Utilizing YOUR Treasury Direct Accounts   Sat Aug 26, 2017 9:39 pm

Federal Trade Commission says - No secret bank accounts to pay your bills


Another day, another scam.







 Case in point: the Federal Reserve Bank of New York reports that scammers are telling people they can pay their bills using so-called “secret accounts” or “Social Security trust accounts” and routing numbers at Federal Reserve Banks. In exchange for personal information, like Social Security numbers, people get what they think is a bank account number at a Federal Reserve Bank. But this really is just a way to get your personal information, which scammers can then sell or use to commit fraud, like identity theft.
 
It’s good to keep in mind that people do not have accounts at Federal Reserve Banks. Only banks can bank at the Federal Reserve. But what happens if you try to use this “secret” account? Well, the Federal Reserve Bank will deny the payment, since you don’t really have an account there. Once the payment is rejected, you’ll be notified that you still owe the money – which is about when you might figure out that this was a scam. At that point, you may owe a late fee or penalty to the company you thought you were paying. You also may owe fees to your bank for returned or rejected payments.
 
If you see a video, text, email, phone call, flyer, or website that describes how you can pay bills using a Federal Reserve Bank routing number or account, report it to the FTC. It’s a scam. And remember: never give your credit card, bank account, or Social Security number to anyone who calls or emails and asks for it – no matter who they say they are.


LINK to REPORT to  https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#&panel1-1

August 17, 2017
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Colleen Tressler

Consumer Education Specialist, FTC


https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/blog/no-secret-bank-accounts-pay-your-bills


http://www.dinardaily.net/t66534-federal-trade-commission-says-no-secret-bank-accounts-to-pay-your-bills
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PostSubject: Re: Utilizing YOUR Treasury Direct Accounts   Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:37 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Utilizing YOUR Treasury Direct Accounts   Sat Aug 26, 2017 10:47 pm

avauinc wrote:
Debunk all you want, ALL IS WELL! Go TDA!!!!!!!!!!!! yes
Well guess you'll be in court very soon! yes
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PostSubject: Re: Utilizing YOUR Treasury Direct Accounts   Sat Aug 26, 2017 11:30 pm

Still alive and well! Sending you love and light, and transmuting all those negative vibrations that do not serve me, humanity and the highest good to the Light of our Creator. ALL Is Well!
Go TDA! Go NESARA!  juggle juggle juggle
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PostSubject: Re: Utilizing YOUR Treasury Direct Accounts   Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:23 am

What if you're not using it to pay bills and you just buy something off amazon or you're online shopping for like books ? Can you still get caught up or in trouble ?
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PostSubject: Re: Utilizing YOUR Treasury Direct Accounts   Sun Sep 03, 2017 8:36 am

Lanky wrote:
What if you're not using it to pay bills and you just buy something off amazon or you're online shopping for like books ? Can you still get caught up or in trouble ?

Yes.  The payment will not go through using these fraudulent accounts.  If the order gets shipped prior to that happening, it will be sent to collections.


Consumer Scam Alert: Do Not Use Federal Reserve Routing Account Numbers to Pay Bills; Could Face Late Fees, Other Charges


For immediate release: July 12, 2017

Recently, the Federal Reserve Banks have received a number of unauthorized transactions in which consumers have tried to use the Fed's routing numbers and their Social Security numbers to pay their bills.

It is important for consumers to know that when making online or e-check bill payments, they cannot use Federal Reserve routing numbers. Federal Reserve routing numbers are used for sorting and processing payments between banks. Any video, text, email, phone call, flyer, or website that describes how to pay bills using a Federal Reserve Bank routing number or using an account at the Federal Reserve Bank is a scam.

The Federal Reserve provides banking services only for banks. Individuals do not have accounts at the Federal Reserve.

The bill payments being attempted using the Fed's routing numbers are being rejected and returned unpaid. Consumers who have attempted to use the Fed's routing numbers to pay their bills may be subject to penalty fees from the company they were attempting to pay.

https://www.frbatlanta.org/news/pressreleases/atlantafed/2017/0712-consumer-scam-alert-fr-routing-numbers
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