DOES TRUMP OWN DINAR?

(comment) I cannot confirm where this came from since the link below does not seem to function
 
Fwd: in case you missed this one -
could this be the real reason
why there is hatred for him
in the election parties...
 Monday, September 21, 2015 11:18 PM
Subject: Trump & Dinars

Trump Big Buy Into Dinar
United States real estate mogul Donald J. Trump has been diversifying and moving East
with his properties and it now appears he is in the Far East buying Dinars, $30 Million U. S. Dollars.

Donald J. Trump “It’s time for all of us to diversify our assets and take back the American dream” . the Donald trump list of investments grows as we speak; Trump Casino, Trump International Hotel, Trump Marina Hotel and Casino, Trump Taj Mahal Casino Resort and Trump Tower, TV Shows, properties in New York, Las Vegas; Chicago; Miami; Los Angeles; the Caribbean; Hawaii; New Jersey; Scotland; Dubai; Dominican east region, Reality Dating the Trump University, vitamin and health products and now the New Iraqi Dinar.

“It’s time for all of us to diversify our assets and take back the American dream”. Donald J. Trump
It appears now Trump Big Buy into Dinar is confirmed. There has been a rumor about this for a while
but it has remained unconfirmed for the most part until very recently. In the past week the source of the
sale a dealer involved and a person in the hi-raise industry have confirmed the Big Buy.

Donald Trump - synonymous with luxury high-rises, his TV show and a distinctive hair style - is now
putting his money into the Dinar investment / speculation arena. It is not for resale but as a hedge and
as with many in anticipation of the revalue of the New Iraqi Dinar.

Many believe that the Dinar will return to its historic value of $3.20 as opposed to it value today of less
then one cent.

The source lives in Baghdad and has been involved in the Dinar business for the past 5 years and sells
to 21 dealers in North and South America and has confirmed a stepped delivery schedule of $30 million
dollars US. They have all been delivered at this point.

The dealer lives in the mid west United States and stated that he was contacted by an agent who was
looking for a source to obtain the 30 million dollars of Dinars about a year ago. He was unable to put the
deal together by himself and set up the original teleconference between the source and the agent for a
finders fee. The agent never revealed who he was representing but the source did the day the deal was
put together.

Final confirmation was made last week in a unrelated interview. The interview was about the New Trump
Network that just launched with a person who has been close to the Trump Empire, and the Trump / Dinar
rumor came up.
 

www.blackhillsportal.com/npps/section.cfm


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The Donald is no fool when it comes o making money! 

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This just makes our investment that much more REAL.



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trump bought in around 5 yrs ago 

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Yeah, I have been reading that for years. 

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Well... good for Mr President.... wooohoooo "Make America Great Again" let's go get'um Mr President. :>) 

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I also read 5 yrs. ago that he had invested 500K in the Dinar. 




I read recently that in one of his many buildings that he owned that there was a currency exchange center. I don't have any



proof of this though. 

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yep Trump was on the Larry King live show and Larry asked him if was invested in the dinar and he said yes, it has been taken off youtube where you could have seen it. A friend saw it and told me a while ago. 

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This is old news, was posted on nesara years back. 

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tata wrote:
This is old news, was posted on nesara years back.

Very old with weak proof, but certainly wouldn't be surprised. 



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When i heard about this in 2006, my friend told me Trump had just purchased $30,000 worth of dinar. So either she was wrong then and it was $30 million or hes's been buying right along. He must have a ton, wonder if he's heard about the zim. 

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"...confirmed a stepped delivery schedule of $30 million dollars US. They have all been delivered at this point..."

I interpret this to mean he made his purchases over time- stepped delivery. So the various rumored purchase amounts over time can all be correct, as well as the 30mm usd total.

I don't doubt it, cripes, he owns everything else, why not?

I've heard that for 3 years Google it and u get nothing real. Mama if that's a real pic of u U are one beautiful lady

Adorable, isn't she? 

kenlej wrote:I've heard that for 3 years Google it and u get nothing real. Mama if that's a real pic of u U are one beautiful lady

THANK YOU, IT IS.

I wrote about this over four years ago.  It was never reported in any legit financial publication. 

http://iraqcurrencywatch.com/popular-pumper-lines-92411/

For a legit breakdown on Trump's investments ... http://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/012516/what-donald-trumps-portfolio-looks.asp

Just more guru poopoo ....

Yawn!

And the mystery still exists....

Well,with Obummer out and Trump in we stand a much greater chance.  IF Trump really does have Dinar then I don't feel quite so bad owning mine.

Again, there's not a shred of evidence that Trump has ever bought dinar or done any currency speculation.  His background is real estate, casinos, sporting events, beauty pageants, and entertainment, along with a few misguided ventures like Trump the board game and Trump steaks.  The Donald does not own any dinar.

Sam , you are right, there is no shred of evidence that Trump owns any dinar!   BUT here is where you are wrong, your claim....there is no shred of evidence that Trump does not own any dinar! Trump is a savvy business man and anything is possible!

I think that it is a moot point as this darn thing has not happened and does not look likely it will happen.
Show us one shred of verifiable evidence that Iraq ever intended for it to happen.  I think it was a scheme cooked up to rob us of our money and it worked!  Blame Obama, the Sand man, Houdini - who cares.  Just the idle thoughts of an idle mind.

kenmor wrote:Sam , you are right, there is no shred of evidence that Trump owns any dinar!   BUT here is where you are wrong, your claim....there is no shred of evidence that Trump does not own any dinar! Trump is a savvy business man and anything is possible!

It's hard to prove a negative.  I can't prove that Santa Claus doesn't exist, can you?  Sure, anything is possible.  That means that it's possible that little green men are going to fly in from the planet Marcabia and take over the IMF and impose an intergalactic currency system based on dilithium crystals.  That's possible, but I wouldn't risk any money on that, would you?  There's not one renowned figure in the business or investment world who claims to own dinar or considers it a good investment.  There's not one business publication that presents it as a legitimate investment, but there are dozens of government, banking, and business publications referring to the dinar investment as a scam. 

Based on all of this I'd say it's extremely unlikely that President-elect Donald Trump owns dinar.

Sam  Even though this might be a scam, possible?, yes possible!  But can you/somebody please explain to me why people keep saying that they are being robbed from their money by buying the dinar?  It is not like you spent several $100's/$1000's buying lotto tickets, that money is gone.  BUT by buying dinar, all you have to do when you do not want to own any dinar anymore is go back and exchange your dinar back to dollars and yes minus an exchange fee BUT what losses/robbery are they talking about?   People losing their houses etc. by buying dinar, talking about being robbed, not having money to go to the Dr.?  I just do not get it!  Please enlighten me, maybe I am missing something! Thanks!

The dinar is an investment!  We all willingly bought the dinar with the possibility of an increase in the rate!  Am I sceptical ...yes, but I prefer to look at a glass half full vs half empty!  And when [b]I [/b]know this RV is going nowhere, I will just exchange my dinars back to $$$. No harm done!

kenmor wrote:Sam , you are right, there is no shred of evidence that Trump owns any dinar!   BUT here is where you are wrong, your claim....there is no shred of evidence that Trump does not own any dinar! Trump is a savvy business man and anything is possible!

Coincidentally convicted felon TNT Tony addressed the Donald Trump issue five years ago today.

"Has Donald Trump cashed out? you are not going to hear me say they didn't. There are things that happen whether you want them to or not. People are privileged. Things happen for them that won't happen to you. .. If this guy did get paid, what his contract negotiated for, he said our rate would be higher.. I don't know about Donald Trump, might be one of the elite, he won't tell us if he was. That does not mean he didn’t …  Going to say this part. Heard people are getting paid since last Sunday, don't know if Trump is one of them. The ones that are will not broadcast it. Won't be someone you know."
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:tup: Funny to read this stuff from 5 years ago....time flies! We are just a lot wiser now...!

kenmor wrote:Sam  Even though this might be a scam, possible?, yes possible!  But can you/somebody please explain to me why people keep saying that they are being robbed from their money by buying the dinar?  It is not like you spent several $100's/$1000's buying lotto tickets, that money is gone.  BUT by buying dinar, all you have to do when you do not want to own any dinar anymore is go back and exchange your dinar back to dollars and yes minus an exchange fee BUT what losses/robbery are they talking about?   People losing their houses etc. by buying dinar, talking about being robbed, not having money to go to the Dr.?  I just do not get it!  Please enlighten me, maybe I am missing something! Thanks!

The dinar is an investment!  We all willingly bought the dinar with the possibility of an increase in the rate!  Am I sceptical ...yes, but I prefer to look at a glass half full vs half empty!  And when I know this RV is going nowhere, I will just exchange my dinars back to $$$. No harm done!

There are many people who are overextended on dinar, and have no savings to tide them over because they were told the RV was going to happen right away.  We've heard stories of people losing their homes, their cars, and their marriages because of this.  One man died because he didn't have insurance to pay for his medicine, and he wouldn't sell his dinar to get the money he needed for it because he knew the RV was about to happen.  That was five years ago.  I've heard too many stories like these to just sit idly by because "nobody is putting a gun to your head".  It has to be addressed.

Fraud isn't fraud because people can't get most of their money back.  Fraud is fraud because people bought in the first place because they were lied to.  Allow me to include an excerpt of a post I did a while back.

People have speculated in real estate for hundreds of years.  It’s never been considered a scam to sell real estate either as an investment or for business or personal use .  But let’s suppose that you were sold a piece of property that was sitting on top of a landfill and the owner didn’t inform you of that.  Would you feel that you had been duped?  Here’s a law firm who handles fraud cases like this, and here’s a story of a case where this actually occurred.  Or suppose that you bought at a certain price, only to find out that market prices in the area were lower than you were told.  Would you feel that you had been scammed?  Here’s a story of a converted condo scam in Florida where condo prices were fraudulently inflated.  Or what if you were told that real estate prices would skyrocket because of a big company that was moving into the area?  Here’s a story about that happening in the St. Louis area.  Sure, real estate acquisition is a legitimate thing.  But if you are misinformed about the facts concerning the investment you’d probably consider it a scam.
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Just like the real estate speculators bought because they thought that a big deal had been struck with Wal-Mart, dinar speculators are buying because of lies.  The dinar isn’t a scam.  It’s a currency.  Revaluation isn’t a scam.  It’s a legitimate monetary mechanism that is used from time to time as needed.  But nobody gets rich from revaluations, and the suggested possibility of getting rich is what drives dinar sales.  And THAT my friends, is the scam.

https://iraqcurrencywatch.com/top-ten-reasons-the-rv-is-a-scam-5314/

If Iraq redenominates in 2017 as they're indicating people are going to have a hard time exchanging their dinars for US dollars.  When the exchange window expires they'll lose everything they spent on dinar if they can't exchange it.  People aren't being told that the currency reform plan is a redenomination.  They're not being told about the risks, and about how actual revaluations work.  HINT - Nobody has ever doubled their money from a revaluation.  It doesn't happen.  If people were being told the truth they wouldn't buy dinar, because the risks far outweigh any potential return.  And when people aren't told the truth about an investment, that's investment fraud.  That's why we have laws in place that require investment advisors (as opposed to anonymous gurus on the internet) to inform the investor of all potential risks.  That isn't happening with the gurus.  That's because they're scammers.  Hope that helps. 

Thank you for your response Sam. I value and respect your opinion! But and a big BUT,if you invested a lot of money in this potential shady RV and you are sick or losing your house because you can not make the payments, exchange your dinar! It is that simple!  

When I was told about this RV in 2012 I believe, the exchange rate was $20+, that means if you invested $100 at lets round it off to IQD 1000 for $ 1, you would have received IQD 100,000 X $20 =$2 Million ....Why would you put that much of your life savings in a shady deal if you would receive $2 Mil. by just investing $100 as an example.  NOW the exchange rate is $3+, that still would give you $300,000 for investing a $100!

All the intel on these dinar websites are doing is giving speculated information, some might give false info just to get a sick thrill, others might really think they know what is happening, but the FACT is NOBODY in Dinarland knows if or when or at what exchange rate this will happen.  All info is based on pure speculation!  None of these gurus on these websites are selling currency, so the info is just based on what I mentioned before, they either think they know or they want a sick thrill out of it!

I consider myself an intelligent woman and when I heard about this I laughed, tooo ridiculous to be true but then I started thinking...what if...cause I also heard this info from somebody I highly respect, so I invested a few $100...to me that was entertainment money and I would not loose my house or life over it,,,,PLUS I can also exchange it back, so the risk was minimal!  Sooo here I am a Dinar holder!

My point is ....WHY invest high amounts of money and risk your life?  That is greed cause as my example above $100 would give you a lot of money already?

I have been in this mental abusive roller coaster, jumped for joy many times and went into dips many times but I learned to do my own research and do not let this consume my life with being on the websites 10+ times a day anymore. 
 I do still have some believe there could be something happening with this currency based upon what is all happening globally!   

Mostly with any investment you have to take risks but make them wisely!

Hey kenmor - this is where you don't see the scam. $100 times 1 million who spend $100 on this scam is $100 million, right? Well the people who sell you the currency make money every time they sell AND every time you want to sell back. Imagine a 20% cut each time...someone is making a whole lot of money off you and their interest is not seeing you cash out, its seeing you buy more dinar. Every transaction is money. The longer this goes on, the more they make. That's the scam. Doesn't seem like a lot - that $100. But you are providing a gurus luxurious lifestyle big time when 1 million of you buy $100. THAT'S THE SCAM.

Well the same can be said about SLOT MACHINES , BLACKJACK,POKER.GUESS WHAT CASINOS ADVERTISE EVERYDAY .....WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE ?NONE I HEAR PEOPLE LOOSE THEIR HOMES FROM THEIR GAMBLING ADDICTIONS ALL THE TIME...To me A person can gamble in any casino and risk their life assets....THE CASINO'S LURE PEOPLE WITH LOFTY DREAMS EVERYDAY...OF RICHES THAT NEVER BECOME REALITY.. DO I FEEL SORRY FOR THOSE FOLKS WHO DO NOT USE THEIR COMMON SENSE.. :winky winky:
NO NOT REALLY ...I DO NOT THINK THEY HAVE ANYONE TO BLAME BUT THEIR SELF....NO I AM NO CALLOUS ,JUST REAL.!

Casinos by law have to issue disclaimers for anybody who wants to read them, and they do encourage people to act responsibly with their money.  And yes, people do hit the jackpot from time to time.  There are regulators who ensure that the machines aren't rigged.  And people know that they're gambling and will probably lose.  That's not the case with the dinar.  Intel providers have been luring people in with junk economics and boots on the ground nonsense for years, telling them that we'll be cashing in any day now.  And nobody will hit the jackpot EVER!  That's where your casino analogy breaks down.

Gruru Hunter, why stay on this web sight if you are so negative? Do you like punishing people?

combonchic wrote:Gruru Hunter, why stay on this web sight if you are so negative? Do you like punishing people?

Who's being punished?  That's a curious word to use.

He can say whatever he wants....I have a right to my beliefs ........!!!!I feel Adult people NEED TO MAKE ADULT DECISIONS AND I FOR ONE WILL CODDLE SOMEONE WHO ACTS LIKE A CHILD WITH THEIR CHOICES AND HAS REGRETS LATER .IN OTHER WORDS IF THEY BOUGHT DINARS AND REGRET IT SO BE IT..STOP THE CRY BABY MENTALITY ..TAKE FULL ACCOUNTABILITY FOR YOUR OWN CHOICES...I HAVE DINARS AND I DO NOT REGRET THAT I DO....!

GypZ wrote:Well the same can be said about SLOT MACHINES , BLACKJACK,POKER.GUESS WHAT CASINOS ADVERTISE EVERYDAY .....WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE ?

A major difference is that we know the casinos have the money, and they will and do pay the winners.  We know the odds going in.  Many casinos advertise their slot machines have a 97% or some such payout.  This means that for every $100 you spend, you will win $97.  Obviously, the longer you play, the more likely the machine will end up with all your money, but you might win a jackpot, and you will get paid.

With the Dinar, we know Iraq does not have the money, so how can they possibly buy back the trillions of Dinar out there?  And why would they do so at thousands of times their current value?

Yes, both are gambling, but given the background information, the odds against the Dinar regaining its previous value in the next few decades are slim and some would say to none.

The economics are in favor of the casino.  It is not an investment.  The economics are not in favor of Iraq paying thousands of % per Dinar to buy back their own currency.

Unless you are the Dragon Family, and want to help humanity, by paying for the RV, but their track record so far is zero, so not much help there either 

The link for the other website doesn't work and I want to see the interview for this source of information.  The FBI acknowledges the RV DInar as a scam and has a section for people to be reported for selling that among other currencies.

https://forms.fbi.gov/iraqi-dinar-investment-investigation

http://mlm.news/fbi-and-irs-are-looking-at-dinar-and-other-foreign-currencies/

Be careful folks.  Keep your jobs and build true and honest financial security through hard work.  Don't rely on the government or other "promises".  Rely on your hard work for your hard earned money and think about investing in the stock market.  Good luck to you all!