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A post from Richard Anthony of Dinar Investors... An update from Baghdad....
This is a post from a gentleman I know who has "Dinar Investors" on FB.... I am just sharing what he posted
Just an update from Baghdad...
Things are not good there...
I spoke with my contact (who happens to work in finance in Baghdad) today and it appears that Iran (behind the scenes) is fully in control of the country and the prospects of an RV are fading quickly. I know most people won't like this, however, according to contact this might be many years away if ever...I know that many will struggle to accept this and surly dispute the report. It's expected! I am also disturbed by the information.
... My contact also said that at this point it is strongly possible that somewhere in 2014-2015 they will be changing the currency and basicly screwing all those that bought the Dinar. (I EXPECT DISDAIN HERE)
I hate this negitive report but I would feel terrible if I did not tell you what I have heard. I have been in contact for a while now and have not reported until now due to the serious nature of my contact today and his recommendation.
What I'm about to tell you is ABSOLUTELY UP TO YOU TO HEED... He recommends getting rid of the dinar while there is a chance. Those are his convictions. I have followed his advice and sold mine! I pass this on to you being loyal to those who have followed. Feel free to ignore this and hold on if you feel differently.
For those in the group that want to consider other money making investments, I am working on some things that could be profitable in the near future. Stay connected if interested.
I expect this thread to draw much attention but please be respectful to each other!
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Just an update from Baghdad...
Things are not good there...
I spoke with my contact (who happens to work in finance in Baghdad) today and it appears that Iran (behind the scenes) is fully in control of the country and the prospects of an RV are fading quickly. I know most people won't like this, however, according to contact this might be many years away if ever...I know that many will struggle to accept this and surly dispute the report. It's expected! I am also disturbed by the information.
... My contact also said that at this point it is strongly possible that somewhere in 2014-2015 they will be changing the currency and basicly screwing all those that bought the Dinar. (I EXPECT DISDAIN HERE)
I hate this negitive report but I would feel terrible if I did not tell you what I have heard. I have been in contact for a while now and have not reported until now due to the serious nature of my contact today and his recommendation.
What I'm about to tell you is ABSOLUTELY UP TO YOU TO HEED... He recommends getting rid of the dinar while there is a chance. Those are his convictions. I have followed his advice and sold mine! I pass this on to you being loyal to those who have followed. Feel free to ignore this and hold on if you feel differently.
For those in the group that want to consider other money making investments, I am working on some things that could be profitable in the near future. Stay connected if interested.
I expect this thread to draw much attention but please be respectful to each other!
Moderator,
Richard Anthony
https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/DinarInvestors/510294572353376/?notif_t=group_activity
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That's exactly what the PTB want us to do- They think we're stupid, well I got news for them, they're stupid if they think we should give up- Don't give them the satisfaction, they are fools from the word go-They said negs and misinfo would abound the closer we got, and I'm thinking NOW that maybe it is not far off- We'll see, won't we?
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Idiot's and scammers like this guy (I.E. his 900% investment that I bet he just might let you in on for a fee) are actually making me feel better about this invest#&%@ err a speculation I should say than I have felt in a long time.
It will either hit and be worth something or my family will find them one day after they plant me in the ground..
Arseholes like this guy nor TerryK, Poopie, Okie and the likes won't sway me one way or the other...
It will either hit and be worth something or my family will find them one day after they plant me in the ground..
Arseholes like this guy nor TerryK, Poopie, Okie and the likes won't sway me one way or the other...
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This is a Giant Crock of HOOIE... If you sell U will be SORRY ..and that is what that person or institution wants ... U 2 be sorry sicko<<<>>>TLF..... in fact I don't think that is possible(UN , IMF, WTO, Central Bank, etc.) Iraq would have to start a new currency anyone see that happening at this point.
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we should sell then wait for this guy to come up with a new scam
we should sell all then invest with this clown no way. iraq is about to be realeased shortly the wto and gcc want iraq if it was as bad as he claims none of them would be helping iraq. the closer we get the bs is cranked up
we should sell all then invest with this clown no way. iraq is about to be realeased shortly the wto and gcc want iraq if it was as bad as he claims none of them would be helping iraq. the closer we get the bs is cranked up
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There are two and only two possibilities, he has the straight dope and we are all screwed, or he is full of crap and this is nothing more than smoke to persuade the timid to get out. My money is on the smoke.
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It's all horseshite anyway-
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What concerns me Kevin, is that he is a straight up guy. Never one to blow smoke up the you know what... He's been right in this with the rest of us. Waiting for the BIG DAY. I will keep you all posted if I find out more in regards to this post.
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Niiiice- Y.g.b.s.m.!!
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He may not be the origin of the smoke.Ponee wrote:What concerns me Kevin, is that he is a straight up guy. Never one to blow smoke up the you know what... He's been right in this with the rest of us. Waiting for the BIG DAY. I will keep you all posted if I find out more in regards to this post.
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he could be right it would not supprise me but when he states sell now and he has something else to make money thats red flag to me
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Yeppers ...
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I love it, I love it...I just cant get enough of it!...LOL...
A friend of mine told me a few years ago that he had spoken to a guy who used to work for one of the global monetary entities..and said that this guy was familar with the dinar...and he told my friend that about the time that the dinar revalues...the news and mis-information that will be put out in some places will have you wanting to throw your dinars away or burn them...Are we there yet?...LOL...
We all fought the NEGATIVITY getting into this, as well as all of it while staying in this...and trillions have been moved into Iraq by all of the Worlds Superpowers...for What?...To Lose?...And now while all is lining up..we are supposed to DUMP it?.....Until I see the World pulling out of Iraq...along with their trillions...I might consider doing something this radical...but right now I'm following the money!...
I say to these that cant see what is actually happening in Iraq...to go get into the Haiti Stock Market!..Or is there one?...LOL..
P.S...Haiti is "Poverty Central"...and has a currency too...before the massive earthquake a while back, I think their currency was like 50 to 1...is'nt it now like 40 to 1...(It gained after a catastrophe)..I'll ride the 1170 to 1 or whatever it is in Iraq...until I see a change for better or worse!...
A friend of mine told me a few years ago that he had spoken to a guy who used to work for one of the global monetary entities..and said that this guy was familar with the dinar...and he told my friend that about the time that the dinar revalues...the news and mis-information that will be put out in some places will have you wanting to throw your dinars away or burn them...Are we there yet?...LOL...
We all fought the NEGATIVITY getting into this, as well as all of it while staying in this...and trillions have been moved into Iraq by all of the Worlds Superpowers...for What?...To Lose?...And now while all is lining up..we are supposed to DUMP it?.....Until I see the World pulling out of Iraq...along with their trillions...I might consider doing something this radical...but right now I'm following the money!...
I say to these that cant see what is actually happening in Iraq...to go get into the Haiti Stock Market!..Or is there one?...LOL..
P.S...Haiti is "Poverty Central"...and has a currency too...before the massive earthquake a while back, I think their currency was like 50 to 1...is'nt it now like 40 to 1...(It gained after a catastrophe)..I'll ride the 1170 to 1 or whatever it is in Iraq...until I see a change for better or worse!...
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i thought of something i believe that if iraq is released from chap 7 into 6 in the docs it states you must have an international tradeable currency. i could be wrong but do not think so
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Thats fine (as he says) start a new currency...in country exchange only??? I guess I'd be travel'in to Iraq then.....What ever this guy is?!! ,is called nothing..To much money already in Iraq to be pushed aside for a few of us bottom feeders.,....one day WE will feed....
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Heck, if one works in the U.S....and pays 30-35% in state & federal taxes...then goes and buys items with that 65-70% that's left of his money...and the item is twice the cost of what it was a year ago...so what does that leave you from that same dollar?.....and I dont think we have even hit the full hyper-inflation mode yet either!...and some guy tells me to worry about the dinar?....H*ll, that's why some hold dinars...(and everything is a risk, as is the USD)......so where is this guy, or anyone for that matter, in regards to telling us, or warning us about how we are already losing our arse with the USD?...LOL...
P.S..Until I actually lose with the Dinar, as per the finality of this ride'...while I'm already lsoing in the USD...what's to fret...as it aint over till it's over!....
P.S..Until I actually lose with the Dinar, as per the finality of this ride'...while I'm already lsoing in the USD...what's to fret...as it aint over till it's over!....
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do you think for one second all the countries that hold dinatrs are going to put up with that? and by the way what is your new investment that will make money is it called scam? i have been init long enough i will ride it to the end
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I can just imagine how happy China would be with all the dinars they already have for oil credits and the amount they'll get thru WF if the dinar is a scam. Not to mention our government and a few others. As far as the dollar being reduced in value at the time of the RV...put your dinar into canadian dollars, aussie dollars, hong kong dollars, king kong pecos or swiss francs. My choice would be swiss francs and canadian dollars.
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blexum why waste your money in other foreign currency just fedex to me and i will do the rest
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Because I'm a GREEEEEEEDY little Blexum. And I want to spend a lot of time in Canada and Switzerland tasting all their beer and wine.
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Lets not forget, this is a Gbush sponsored investment.....and most of us know what his intentions are. With that said, Iran is in no way controlling Iraq so that is a bunch of hooey.....We wait....And for all of you folks who are so sure about this....I have 500K in dinar that you can have for $400US...Tis true...Bought from Dinar trade with authentication from them.....
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topspin i will do you favor since its not going to be worth anything i will give you 200 dollars and no handling fees . dt was giving 410 per mill a month ago sell it back to them
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So, then, are we screwed or what? I didn't ride this wagon to end up in some parking lot-
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I have been in this long enough to just ride it out! If its meant to be it will happen! If not, I guess I will have some pretty paper I can give to my grandkids to play store with!!!! I guess I'm just a gambler!!!
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yo terbo you of all people should know the deal. over 95 percent of the info we get is bogus. if it is not in the papers or real articles its false. now for real facts the un will let them out of 7 into 6 on the 27. i have read and yet hd someone dispute that in 6 there has to be a international traded currency now they never stated a value. now there agre many trade agreements with ku do you think one tenth of a panny will cut it? why does the gcc and wto want them as full time members not at one tenth of a cent. all of this will happen real soon as kevin also stated i believe it will start around one to one then go up. the less you read the bs from these people the better off you will be
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Jayzze - even the so called "real articles" are full of nonsense. We won't know anything til it finally shows up on the forex
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Jayzze, I'm just ranting, and besides, I don't get the news paper-
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ponee first of all when the un releases articles on its on paper and says iraq will be let out thats fact not fiction. whewn al jazzara says something its pretty legit when okie anthony and crew say something its pretty bogus. if you read the news article only of dinar vets for the past two yrs they have been on the money over ninety percent. you can veriy this with terbo because i send it to him then later in the day it appears all over the forums that i send 8 hrs before. the problem is everyone wants to believe but most of the time there is no truth in what certain people say
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Ponee, Jayzze does send me the info he finds out, early in a.m., and it always rings true every time- Usually, 6-8 hours later, it comes out through Al Jazeera, and can be found also on D.Vets, just like he says, and I trust what he tells me, and has never been wrong yet- Check it out sometime-
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terbo if it rvs soon i found a nice camel farm outside of bagdad on 200 acres
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Ok, I'm in- Let me know-
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Naaaa Jayzee I think I will just use it for wallpaper. Should you change your mind, let me know.....
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if you use it as border wall papere it could be nice
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it's a gamble either way you look at it...who's right or wrong? hopefully people can afford to lose the money they spent on dinar. That is what wisdom is. Then you're covered..not so hard to do.
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or you could blah blah blah about it....many on here are legends in your own mind. Too many pumpers!!...hang tight you might be wrong yourself.
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Ponee, he is a straight up guy...whether right or wrong...
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I don't think there are any pumpers here, optimists perhaps, realists certainly, but no pumpers.
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I guess that just about covers that-
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Lopster wrote:Ponee, Richard is a straight up guy...whether right or wrong...
I agree with you Lopster. He is only sharing what he heard. His willingness to bail so quickly has me worried as to the chance of his post being our worst nightmare coming true. He has been waiting for this as long as we have... probably longer.
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Kevind53 wrote:I don't think there are any pumpers here, optimists perhaps, realists certainly, but no pumpers.
Lopster, Kevin is right. There are NO pumpers here. Just dinar holders. The pumpers all have their own sites. There are no local gurus or pumpers here. None of us are dinar dealers, nor do any of us profit from sales of dinar. We as members, are all just waiting the wait....
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Let's see. Buy Dinar. Hold Dinar. Get frustrated with investment. Sell Dinar back at a loss.
They pump you up - sell to you - pump you up - sell to you - repeating this process until sales dwindle - then lower the price on purchasing back (they keep thier normal sell amount(maybe slightly less) or offer an additional something, but lower the amount they buy back for - and don't forget the processing fee. Then - Put out this kind of garbage - your frustrated - you sell low. They get a bunch of quick returns and quick profit - only to turn around in several days or weeks and have some GREAT news - to which some go "oh my - and I sold" - and they repurchase, those who didn't sell feel more confident and buy more, and newbies take the plunge.
Whether this turns a profit for US or not - it is definitely turning one for them. C'mon - if currently tradeable and carried by our banks - we could buy 1 million IQD for $854.70....
They pump you up - sell to you - pump you up - sell to you - repeating this process until sales dwindle - then lower the price on purchasing back (they keep thier normal sell amount(maybe slightly less) or offer an additional something, but lower the amount they buy back for - and don't forget the processing fee. Then - Put out this kind of garbage - your frustrated - you sell low. They get a bunch of quick returns and quick profit - only to turn around in several days or weeks and have some GREAT news - to which some go "oh my - and I sold" - and they repurchase, those who didn't sell feel more confident and buy more, and newbies take the plunge.
Whether this turns a profit for US or not - it is definitely turning one for them. C'mon - if currently tradeable and carried by our banks - we could buy 1 million IQD for $854.70....
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I just wished I knew of a place to use my dollars...where there wouldnt be appx. 50% or more lost upon spending it via inflation...and that's after the 30% in taxes taken out first....if someone can find me some place like this...or something better to get into...I might get out of the dinars...but to date'...no one can.....I think I'll just stay put until this rides over...as I'm already losing in the dollar!......
P.S...I just love how some people leave their million dollar day jobs, and blog 24/7, while worrying over and bashing this toilet paper valued currency...that they say "wont ever do anything"...while losing their arses in the dollar...LOL...
P.S...I just love how some people leave their million dollar day jobs, and blog 24/7, while worrying over and bashing this toilet paper valued currency...that they say "wont ever do anything"...while losing their arses in the dollar...LOL...
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Look at tax deferred investments such as annuities. Some are variable and carry market risk, some are fixed with a guaranteed rate of return and some are indexed, so you still get a piece of the action when the market goes up, but are protected against loss if it goes down. Tax deferal means you will only pay taxes when you use the money. They can be qualified, that is an IRA, or they can be non-qualified depending upon your needs. You won't get the kind of gains you could potentially see in the market, but with the fixed & indexed at least, you won't be taking a bath next time the market crashes and will make out pretty well when it is on the upswing.
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sorry guys...pumpers was a little strong ...
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No matter what you invest in here in the U.S....after taxes and inflation...you better hope that theres a positive outcome after it's all said and done...as per whats left over.....in other words...I know some that state that they are going backwards even with their gains...that's why many are in "emerging markets"...that's why everything in the U.S. for the most part has left the U.S....or are going to if they can...the writing is not only on the wall...its been there...some just havent seen it...or yet....lol....
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On another note...I know many who have lost everything, and/or millions....in some of the best and most secure and sound investments in the U.S...while I know others who have been in "emerging markets", (while told not to do so by some of these same investment advisors)...and they have had nothing but gains...one of these friends told me a while back that his investment advisor has took everything he owns out of anything in the U.S...and is solely now in "emerging markets" as per investments..he said that this financial advisor told him that the firm he represented would always tell him to deter folks from doing anything outside the U.S...but he also said that the advisor would always notice that all the biggest gains were not in the U.S...and the biggest players were not doing much in the U.S...so he followed suit as we say..."follow the money"...
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Re: A post from Richard Anthony of Dinar Investors... An update from Baghdad....
He is correct, however with the greater gains in "emerging markets," comes greater risk. You need to balance that as well. Not everyone has the same amount of tolerance for risk and not every investment is right for every person. Don't listen to the hype and hoopla that brokers feed you. Stocks, mutual funds etc. are by no means secure investments. There is always a risk of loss. Actually, there is risk with ANY investment, you just have to determine what types and amounts you are comfortable with. Loss is one of them, as is inflation. I talk to people all the time who have lost 30, 40, 50% in the last crash. Yet the brokers continue to tout "average gains" of 10% or more. Guess what, if you have negative numbers, averages become meaningless. For a quick and simple example, say you invest 10K, the first year you lose 50%, the second year you make 50%. You average is 0% implying you broke even, but in real life your 10K became 5K in the first year, and your 50% made you 2.5K the second year, so you have a net LOSS of 2.5K or 25%. To put it another way, you would have to see 100% growth to break even.
The dirty secret is that most investors are about even over the last 20 or so years. That is the power of an indexed investment. Look at the same case, and let's just assume you have a 50 participation rate. in the first year the market took a tumble, but because of the protection built into the indexed product, you are still at 10K. The second year it get a big bounce and comes roaring back 50%, you earn half of that, 2.5K. or 25%. You are 5K or 50% ahead of the first option. This is not a favorite of brokers, it's not something they can sell, so no surprise there. Also, in most cases they are unfamiliar with them. Note: I am talking of a fixed, indexed annuity, NOT a variable annuity, a variable annuity is subject to the same market risk as stocks or mutual funds, but may have some features of value to the owner not available in an indexed annuity. However I am not qualified to talk about them.
There are other investment strategies that MAY work for you, depending upon your age and financial situation. I am currently studying the use of universal life as an accumulation vehicle yielding good results and providing certain other advantages to both the policy holder and their heirs. These are powerful tools that CAN be of value ... and no, I am not trying to sell my services, I am licensed in my state and have no desire to expand that. Besides, I have all the business I need or want.
The dirty secret is that most investors are about even over the last 20 or so years. That is the power of an indexed investment. Look at the same case, and let's just assume you have a 50 participation rate. in the first year the market took a tumble, but because of the protection built into the indexed product, you are still at 10K. The second year it get a big bounce and comes roaring back 50%, you earn half of that, 2.5K. or 25%. You are 5K or 50% ahead of the first option. This is not a favorite of brokers, it's not something they can sell, so no surprise there. Also, in most cases they are unfamiliar with them. Note: I am talking of a fixed, indexed annuity, NOT a variable annuity, a variable annuity is subject to the same market risk as stocks or mutual funds, but may have some features of value to the owner not available in an indexed annuity. However I am not qualified to talk about them.
There are other investment strategies that MAY work for you, depending upon your age and financial situation. I am currently studying the use of universal life as an accumulation vehicle yielding good results and providing certain other advantages to both the policy holder and their heirs. These are powerful tools that CAN be of value ... and no, I am not trying to sell my services, I am licensed in my state and have no desire to expand that. Besides, I have all the business I need or want.
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Re: A post from Richard Anthony of Dinar Investors... An update from Baghdad....
I guess once Hyper-Infaltion sets in...and/or if the USD tanks, as the world dumps it continually, as well as the Petro-Dollar...we will see what is considered a Safe Haven to Park your Assets in?...LOL...
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Re: A post from Richard Anthony of Dinar Investors... An update from Baghdad....
Perhaps, but as bad as the US is, a lot of countries are much, much worse. will the USD tank? Perhaps, but the fact remains that many countries will tank long before we do. It's a real mess worldwide, and IMO if you are looking for a safe haven, well ... good luck. If things are bad enough for the USD to tank, I don't think anything else will be much good.
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