STILL NO RV AND THERE WONT BE THIS WEEK

by All Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:37 pm

KevinD53
How many are on this site? To my knowledge, zero. Yes, some advertise on this site, Miske is not Bill gates, so she can not pay for all this out of her pockets, and I can guarantee you it's not cheap. However no one on staff here, nor any of the intel providers here are affiliated in any way with the dealers. To imply anything else is a lie, plain and simple, so let's stop.

All, if you want to underwrite this site, I am sure something could be arranged. I am sure the total costs including bandwidth can't be much more than 4 or 5 hundred a month ... certainly no higher than $1000. Probably, most likely, I think ... You could probably get a whole column on the side as a big fat thank you! [/quote]

Kevin, my mistake, I thought these banners were from Dinar Dealers. ZERO ? Buy A Little Dinar, Dinar Depot and Dinar Banker are just the ones on this page and are probably not in the business of selling Dinar, and the promo code OkieOilMan doesn't make anyone money....Never said anything about staff or intel providers getting paid. So I guess these three sites banner ads and promo code commissions don't cover the 4 or 5 hundred a month? Just sayin javascript:emoticonp(' STILL NO RV AND THERE WONT BE THIS WEEK - Page 2 949729897

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by BEACHSNAKE98 Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:41 pm

WHY DO WE KEEP GETTING THESE NOTICES THAT IT IS DONE. THERE HAS YET TO BE ANY CONFIRMATION(WHICH SHOULD BE DONE PRIOR TO THE POST). THESE FALSE NOTIFICATIONS DO NOTHING BUT INCREASE THE GENERAL DOUBT OF ANY SUBSEQUENT NEWS. IT'S ALWAYS EASY TO SAY IT WAS DELAYED DUE TO "YADA, YADA, AND YADA" AND DOES NOTHING TO ALLOW THE READER TO HAVE ANY CONFIDENCE IN SUBSEQUENT NEWS. PLEASE GIVE US A LITTLE CREDIT FOR HAVING SOME COMMON SENSE. SOME OF THESE SIMPLY HAVE TO BE TAKEN AS STATEMENTS CREATED WITH A LACK OF CONSIDERATION FOR THE READERS. MAKE SOME STATEMENTS THAT CAN BE SHONE TO CONTAIN SOME CREDIBILITY AND MAYBE WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING TO BUILD ON. CRYING "WOLF" SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK SOON LOSES IT IMPACT WITHOUT EVEN A "HOWL" TO DIGNIFY THE ANNOUNCEMENT. THE EFFORTS TO KEEP US AHEAD OF THE GAME IS GREATLY APPRECIATED, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ACCOUNTIBILITY IN THE END.

by a2jmarkman Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:44 pm

I totally agree

by sandwedge Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:50 pm

BEACHSNAKE98 wrote:WHY DO WE KEEP GETTING THESE NOTICES THAT IT IS DONE. THERE HAS YET TO BE ANY CONFIRMATION(WHICH SHOULD BE DONE PRIOR TO THE POST). THESE FALSE NOTIFICATIONS DO NOTHING BUT INCREASE THE GENERAL DOUBT OF ANY SUBSEQUENT NEWS. IT'S ALWAYS EASY TO SAY IT WAS DELAYED DUE TO "YADA, YADA, AND YADA" AND DOES NOTHING TO ALLOW THE READER TO HAVE ANY CONFIDENCE IN SUBSEQUENT NEWS. PLEASE GIVE US A LITTLE CREDIT FOR HAVING SOME COMMON SENSE. SOME OF THESE SIMPLY HAVE TO BE TAKEN AS STATEMENTS CREATED WITH A LACK OF CONSIDERATION FOR THE READERS. MAKE SOME STATEMENTS THAT CAN BE SHONE TO CONTAIN SOME CREDIBILITY AND MAYBE WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING TO BUILD ON. CRYING "WOLF" SEVERAL TIMES A WEEK SOON LOSES IT IMPACT WITHOUT EVEN A "HOWL" TO DIGNIFY THE ANNOUNCEMENT. THE EFFORTS TO KEEP US AHEAD OF THE GAME IS GREATLY APPRECIATED, BUT THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ACCOUNTIBILITY IN THE END.

Yes, yes and more yes's to all the above. Great post, please post more often.

Go RI/RV..

by Guest Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:53 pm

sandwedge wrote:
punisher wrote:If i say the rv is done and over i better dang well better be 100% positive before i proclaim it. Otherwise there is an agenda at work here! !!

I agree with what you are saying, but isn't this exactly what Bulldog and Okie have done several times recently. We won't mention how many times in 2011.

Go RI/RV..

...then you know exactly who i am talking about Wink

by BEACHSNAKE98 Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:02 pm

I DO RECALL OAKIE SAYING SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT THAT HE WOULD NOT POST ANYTHING FURTHER UNTIL THIS WENT DOWN. HE IS NOT TOTALLY TO BLAME FOR THIS. THERE MUST HAVE BEEN 3-4 OTHERS LAST NIGHT CLAIMING THIS HAD COME TO FRUITION. MY STATEMENTS WERE MORE TUNED TO THE GENERAL INFO SPEWED FORTH BY SO MANY OF THE "GURUS?". I HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU ALONG THE LINES OF AN "AGENDA" TO SATISFY. THANKS.

by GoodGosh Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:06 pm

mustlovedogs wrote:Amen brother! Tell it like it is. If you go into the chat and try and bring out salient reasonable points to the people you are kicked out for doubting the gurus here. A mod in the room yesterday specifically said that any doubters would be kicked. I watched her kick some.

It is not a chat room for open minded people who think for themselves. One mod (I think we know who she is) is a whip toting angry person as far as I can tell and uses the chat room to abuse people.

And today I was kicked for pointing out information that is true, yet opposite in agreement to Papajack. One post and no dialogue about what I questioned.

For all the praising Jesus that goes on in the chat room and all over this site I don't see any resemblance to what Jesus taught so long ago. It has me wondering if there isn't another agenda going on here.

by All Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:27 pm

punisher wrote:
LookingAtTheHeavens wrote:
punisher wrote:The proof is no rv has taken place after being 100% called. Is that not proof enough? !?

What are you talking about? How in the world does that prove they are doing it to pump up Dinar sales? Wow!

If i want to be right about something i make sure im correct before i go opening my mouth...as simple as that.

Btw, sales of the dinar go up each time we have an "rv".

If you are correct before you opened your mouth, and the sales of the dinar go up each time we have an "rv", just exactly how many "rv's" have we had??? Or do you mean "rv" announcements??? Which we all know are in the double digits lol

by **Terbo56** Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:30 pm

Danger- THIN ICE-Treat others the way you want to be treated- This is a warning,and there will be no picking arguments-Failure to heed this warning WILL result in a time out- Mad

by HeadNotTheTail Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:46 pm

WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOWOOOOOOO GO Tony Stewart GO RV GO WOOOOOHOOOOOWOOOOOOOOO wreckless

by GoodGosh Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:50 pm

Terbo56 - I would quit this lousy non paying thankless job and find something more fulfilling that brings you joy and peace and love. It is my empathic perception that the level of disenchantment rises exponentially each time the RV is called and the hype is continuing now at a 7 days a week rate.

I can appreciate the overwhelming work the mods have in the oversight of this forum and chat room and I can with all my heart say to you God Bless You for your commitment.

Yet I think that the pressure in the cooker is way past the red mark at this point.

Respectfully,
GG

by DevaronDLH Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:00 pm

punisher wrote:Sorry to say but certain people are pumping this and on purpose that it is so in your face. I dont know if it's to meet a certain quota but that looks like what is being done here. Sorry...it might not be the most popular thing to say but there i said it. Either some are crazy out their minds or there is an agenda going on here...you decide which.
Keep an eye on the arab summit.

Thanks for telling the truth, its not like we do not know this, and it must at some time become obvious to all. None of us have any doubt the Dinar will RV,
we don't know when and I think the gurus don't know anymore then any of us.
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by **Terbo56** Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:02 pm

DevaronDLH- Thankyou for that-And, yes it WILL RV sooner than later!! Very Happy

by Guest Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:08 pm

terbo56 wrote:DevaronDLH- Thankyou for that-And, yes it WILL RV sooner than later!!

Sooner than later sounds good.

by **Terbo56** Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:11 pm

You got that right!! Very Happy

by hester38 Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:16 pm

Punisher i like what you have said !!!!!! for once a mod saying the truth what we all feel!!!!

by peedo58 Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:19 pm

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by Guest Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:32 pm

hester38 wrote:Punisher i like what you have said !!!!!! for once a mod saying the truth what we all feel!!!!

I say it like i see it.

by **Kevind53** Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:03 pm

tnbulldog wrote:Soooooo let me see. It's OK to bash someone that doubts after repeated RV calls, BUT not OK to bash the ones that are consistently wrong when they call it. OoooKkkkk I see how this works.

No, you don't see how it works. It's not OK to bash period. Yes, some stepped over the line, and not to excuse it, but until you have walked a mile in their shoes .... As Mods we deal with complaints and griping all day long, no matter what you say or do, you get complaints, ask anyone who has moderated on a large site. So yea, at times we say things we might not under normal circumstances ... and even regret later, but then again we are human.

I'm guessing, but if you are referring to the responses I think you are, then you are definitely out of line. The poster to which they were referring made some patently false accusations, ones we have dealt with time and again here. So let's ease up and cut some people a little slack OK? Lord knows we mods sure have cut some a lot of slack of late.

by **Kevind53** Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:15 pm

All wrote:
Kevin, my mistake, I thought these banners were from Dinar Dealers. ZERO ? Buy A Little Dinar, Dinar Depot and Dinar Banker are just the ones on this page and are probably not in the business of selling Dinar, and the promo code OkieOilMan doesn't make anyone money....Never said anything about staff or intel providers getting paid. So I guess these three sites banner ads and promo code commissions don't cover the 4 or 5 hundred a month? Just sayin javascript:emoticonp('')

They pay for advertising, period. They do not run the site, nor do the staff members on the site work for them. We have over 20,000 members signed up, and on the average have between 350 and 450 people browsing the forums at any one time, and at times over 1000 people in chat. Guess what all that takes bandwidth, lots of bandwidth, and that is expensive.

You implied very strongly that there was some sort of payola thing going on, and that we got kickbacks for promoting sales through hype.That is patently false, and unless you can prove otherwise I suggest you back off. In fact IMO, you owe Miske an apology for impugning her and her site.

I said it before, if you find the advertising objectionable, I am sure you could work out some sort of sponsorship arrangement with Miske. I'm pretty sure she would be glad to discuss it with you. But if you are not willing to put up ...

by dlusk1414 Tue Feb 28, 2012 1:34 pm

I do believe that everyone is more than ready for this to be over with whatever circumstance they may be going through. Times are definitely hard right now with all the high prices. I believe sometimes people say things to vent, but may cross the line just alittle. It really is refreshing to hear Punisher say it like it is.. I am not bashing any mod here because I am sure you see a lot of negativism, but I feel that it is ok to vent just alittle when things are said over and over again and peoples emotions are involved.

My 2 cents...

Thanks for all you do..

by **Terbo56** Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:25 pm

Dlusk1414- Punisher has always been upfront,just like me- And trust me, we'll all be dang glad when this is all over with-It has been grueling to say the least- STILL NO RV AND THERE WONT BE THIS WEEK - Page 2 1499845164

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by Guest Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:32 pm

Thanks guys. I think overall there are a great group of people on this site. Hang in there folks...there is an end game and it seems near.

Come rv!

by **doodoo** Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:46 pm

dinarling would have plenty of negative things to say over our most recent blessing me the most negative thing I can say is
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by dlusk1414 Tue Feb 28, 2012 3:23 pm

terbo56 wrote:Dlusk1414- Punisher has always been upfront,just like me- And trust me, we'll all be dang glad when this is all over with-It has been grueling to say the least-

God Bless.. Thats for sure... Laughing

by Guest Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:41 pm

This comes from the Currency Newshound
website. An exchange rate of the new to old of 1:1000 and running the
currencies "in parallel" says lop in my book. I don't feel that's being
negative as much as I consider it being an honest educated opinion.
Here's part of the article I'm talking about:

The Central Bank
of Iraq has agreed with the Economic Committee of the Iraqi Parliament
to introduce the new banknotes in September 2012, which will be used in
parallel with the current banknotes for a year. The CBI will completely
withdraw the old banknotes by September 2013.
Abdul-Hussein Abtan,
Economic Committee Member of Parliament in Baghdad “The process of
removing zeros from the currency will contribute to dealing better with
inflation, facilitate economic cooperation with international banks and
reduce the differences in [standards of] living in society,”
Abtan
explained. Mahma Khalil, another Member of the Iraqi Parliament and
official spokesperson of the Economic Committee says an agreement has
been reached about the mechanisms of introducing the new banknotes after
a series of meetings and discussions with the CBI Governor Dr. Sinan Al
Shibibi.
“According to the agreements, the new bill will be
printed by a European company and introduced to the market gradually and
in a well-planned schedule to ensure it will not result in shocks and
would not have a negative impact on the market,” explained MP Khalil. He
added the exchange rate between the new banknotes and the old ones
would be 1:1,000.

by Big Bish Tue Feb 28, 2012 4:58 pm

I wonder how much IQD was sold over the weekend? I keep thinking about the motivation that would push anyone to share false information on these blogs and the only thing that I can come up with is to sell IQD......if the currency traders don't trade currency they don't make a living. It's very much like stock brokers and a flat stock market......as much as I want and desperately need the RV, I find it hard to believe that anyone including Okie would have prior knowledge of it and have an opportunity to load the barn with dinar. I want Okie to be right and I want Sweet Queen to call the RV but, I'm slowly but surely loosing faith...Peace

by Guest Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:18 pm

I guess we will soon find out.

by Blexum Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:30 pm

You aren't alone BB. Now on recaps it's all the negative "don't think it will happen soon" stuff. If this doesn't come off like they said it has, then I for one think it's all b.s. I've been in this since 2005 and have heard everything. But, this last year has been all false alarms.

by **Terbo56** Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:45 pm

Just take it with a grain of salt, oh,say, STILL NO RV AND THERE WONT BE THIS WEEK - Page 2 3973136183

about the size of an Edsel, and you'll be just fine-

by **dinarstar** Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:59 pm

Two Edsel's parked out on Route 66 in Seligman AZ,one pink one yellow Smile

by **Terbo56** Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:05 pm

I love those old EDSELS- They just came out way ahead of their time-

by **Jayzze** Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:07 am

i hate to say this i do not think there will be an rv until malki is gone he is a master of excuses and stlling

by Guest Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:27 am

jayzze wrote:i hate to say this i do not think there will be an rv until malki is gone he is a master of excuses and stlling

So you think he has the clout to stall this even with the ARAB SUMMIT...

by Luvnmt Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:31 am

Big Bish wrote:I wonder how much IQD was sold over the weekend? I keep thinking about the motivation that would push anyone to share false information on these blogs and the only thing that I can come up with is to sell IQD......if the currency traders don't trade currency they don't make a living. It's very much like stock brokers and a flat stock market......as much as I want and desperately need the RV, I find it hard to believe that anyone including Okie would have prior knowledge of it and have an opportunity to load the barn with dinar. I want Okie to be right and I want Sweet Queen to call the RV but, I'm slowly but surely loosing faith...Peace

I hate to admit it but I am beginning to wonder it the RV will ever happen. I am losing confidence in any of the "gurus" at a rather rapid pace! I am leaning toward the idea the the dinar might very well RV someday but I have serious doubts that anyone aside from possibly a few Iraqi officials has any clue when it will happen. When I hear it week after week that "this is our week" or "it has happened" and it has not happened and it was not our week . . . . . well, let's just say I am getting rather tired of the whole ordeal. I know someone is gonna ask why I come to this site and other similar sites. Answer is lately it's more for the entertainment - the wild stories than anything else. I have NO idea who to believe at this point. I like to think the best of the many "gurus" and hope they have simply been fed wrong intel which they in turn report but after a certain amount of time . . . . . .well. . . . .in my book it make them look bad. Nuff said!
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by Guest Wed Feb 29, 2012 1:19 am

Luvnmt wrote:
Big Bish wrote:I wonder how much IQD was sold over the weekend? I keep thinking about the motivation that would push anyone to share false information on these blogs and the only thing that I can come up with is to sell IQD......if the currency traders don't trade currency they don't make a living. It's very much like stock brokers and a flat stock market......as much as I want and desperately need the RV, I find it hard to believe that anyone including Okie would have prior knowledge of it and have an opportunity to load the barn with dinar. I want Okie to be right and I want Sweet Queen to call the RV but, I'm slowly but surely loosing faith...Peace

I hate to admit it but I am beginning to wonder it the RV will ever happen. I am losing confidence in any of the "gurus" at a rather rapid pace! I am leaning toward the idea the the dinar might very well RV someday but I have serious doubts that anyone aside from possibly a few Iraqi officials has any clue when it will happen. When I hear it week after week that "this is our week" or "it has happened" and it has not happened and it was not our week . . . . . well, let's just say I am getting rather tired of the whole ordeal. I know someone is gonna ask why I come to this site and other similar sites. Answer is lately it's more for the entertainment - the wild stories than anything else. I have NO idea who to believe at this point. I like to think the best of the many "gurus" and hope they have simply been fed wrong intel which they in turn report but after a certain amount of time . . . . . .well. . . . .in my book it make them look bad. Nuff said!

Believe AJ...

by 052676 Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:11 am

If a comment is made that says it wont rv this week or by this weekend it is not negative. It may be based on some facts.

Erbil has to pass first before the rv will take place. Must have the National Meeting first.

Its coming soon, Iraq will not want to attend the Arab Summit with worthless money!

by 052676 Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:15 am

If you belong to a club and they are having a meeting at the Ritz Carlton, would you attend the meeting dressed in old torn blue jeans with dirty and worn tennis shoes. The answer is no.

Iraq is preparing to dress appropriately for the Arab Summit with currency that has decent value.

by ruthie23 Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:21 am

Why? Iraq have a stable currency, and have maintained it for years now. Quite a feat really.

I am sure they are preparing to do something, but those who are misguided enough or blind enough to honestly believe that this could revalue at fantastical rates this year, really have no idea about economics.

Apart from Ebril, the HCL and the budget not being in place, they still haven't got a fully formed government.

Shabibi has said countless times, he will do nothing with the currency until they have.

For what ever reasons the Gurus are still winding everyone up like energizer bunnies for I have now lost interest in, suffice to say, that I honestly hope that they have the decency to either apologize or step away, and let the truth speak for itself.

And there is no need to ban me, this is my parting shot, it used to be quite funny in here, now it is just really sad. The chatroom is like some kind of weird club/church, with zero tolerance to opinions that in any real world home would be heard and debated sensibly without gestapo like tatics and bad manners. For me it has been an insight into the power of using God's name in vain, and proof that love is truly blind Rolling Eyes

by CaptnJerry Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:45 am

Hey Ruthie, your so right about everything, especially chat... It's horrible over there!!! I'm thinking about taking a break as well as this isn't going to happen till September according to Iraq...

CJ

by 052676 Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:44 am

Ruthie,

So are right on about all you say.

by tourman60 Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:58 am

How much egg on the face does Okie have now? He is working on his 3rd dozen I believe. Along with johnnywg, and his minions, the egg supply in this country could run dry! Then we have the other side of things. MED and his minions who read and post articles out of IRAQ that are dry as toast to read and most of the time you cant make heads or tails of what the heck they are talking about. Its all a crap shoot and the house has the odds. WE SHALL SEE!!!!

by Guest Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:42 am

ruthie23 wrote:Why? Iraq have a stable currency, and have maintained it for years now. Quite a feat really.

I am sure they are preparing to do something, but those who are misguided enough or blind enough to honestly believe that this could revalue at fantastical rates this year, really have no idea about economics.

Apart from Ebril, the HCL and the budget not being in place, they still haven't got a fully formed government.

Shabibi has said countless times, he will do nothing with the currency until they have.

For what ever reasons the Gurus are still winding everyone up like energizer bunnies for I have now lost interest in, suffice to say, that I honestly hope that they have the decency to either apologize or step away, and let the truth speak for itself.

And there is no need to ban me, this is my parting shot, it used to be quite funny in here, now it is just really sad. The chatroom is like some kind of weird club/church, with zero tolerance to opinions that in any real world home would be heard and debated sensibly without gestapo like tatics and bad manners. For me it has been an insight into the power of using God's name in vain, and proof that love is truly blind

A fantastical rate to me at this point is .86 or a dollar...JUST GET IT DONE!

by gp cobb Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:53 am

It's hard not to say ditto or amen guys.......... and gals.................

by **doodoo** Wed Feb 29, 2012 11:57 am

Well I hate to be the bearer of negative news, but according to BD75 from chat last night regarding the RV -

Bulldog75: BISHOP; ITS IN OUR MINDS.

by Guest Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:00 pm

doodoo wrote:Well I hate to be the bearer of negative news, but according to BD75 from chat last night regarding the RV -

Bulldog75: BISHOP; ITS IN OUR MINDS.

What is in our minds? That the rv is FAKE? lmao

Please explain...

by **doodoo** Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:05 pm

punisher wrote:
doodoo wrote:Well I hate to be the bearer of negative news, but according to BD75 from chat last night regarding the RV -
Bulldog75: BISHOP; ITS IN OUR MINDS.
What is in our minds? That the rv is FAKE? Please explain...

I cannot pretend to interpret what's in BD's mind, I only posted his quote from chat. Perhaps you need more to understand what he was saying.

Bishop28 to Bulldog75: Do you think today is the day for this to happen
Bulldog75: BISHOP; EVERY DAY IS FRIDAY, CHRISTMAS AND RV.
jnorm to Awesome777: Loved hearing you on the call tonight!! Great info!
Bulldog75: JNMORM; WE HAD FUN!!!!!
Bishop28 to Bulldog75: So I guess that's a no. We will just keep waiting
Bulldog75: BISHOP; ITS IN OUR MINDS. WE MANIFEST WHAT WE THINK.

That any clearer, punisher?

by **Terbo56** Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:09 pm

Sounds like smoke to me- Somethin' is up, and nobody is talkin'- I think we are closer than we have ever been- Now someone shoot me in the foot because-y'all don't agree- Twisted Evil

by **doodoo** Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:16 pm

Okay terbo, you asked for it

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by **Terbo56** Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:17 pm

I did see this coming-Great!

by **abby ann** Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:19 pm

doodoo wrote:Okay terbo, you asked for it

HEY DOODOO GOT ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE IT LOOKS LIKE FUN!!!!!!