A VERY LONG JESTER CHAT

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[Jester] HI MODS, PEEPS, LURKERS, AND CRITTERS... HAPPY SATURDAY...

[LdyFaith] Jester,,, link from last night JW,,,, what the heck ???,,,,,And thank you,,, I had not put the"paper gold" concept together,,,, the level of evil thieves is endless,,,,,

http://www.silverdoctors.com/jim-willie-shanghai-shock-to-shatter-the-gold-market/

[Jester] LdyFaith HE IS GOOD STATISTIC GUY... AND I LIKE THAT SORT OF THING BEING AN ENGINEER.... IS EASIER FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND TRENDS... THE DEPTHS OF THE DECEIT ARE A LOT FURTHER THAN YOU THINK...

[Jester] IT IS A LOT WORSE THAN YOU CAN POSSIBLY IMAGINE... THAT ARTICLE IS JUST SCRATCHING THE SURFACE...
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[Jester] BUT THAT IS ANOTHER STORY...

[LdyFaith] Jester,,, well,,, like you say,,, it is what it is,,,,do you think there is a chance the gold will take a bit of time to explode?

[Jester] LdyFaith DON'T KNOW.... DEPENDS ON THE TIMING... IF THEY HAVE TO IT WILL BE THE CATALYST THEY USE TO DO

[LdyFaith] Jester,,, is kinda what I was thinking,,,,, thanks

[Hannah] Jester yes, the link said it was possible it could double overnight ...

[Jester] OK... I READ A REALLY LONG ARTICLE TODAY BY CRAIG ROBERTS... I THINK IT IS PRETTY GOOD... SINCE NO ONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE ARTICLE LAST NIGHT MAYBE I SHOULD TRY THAT...

[pollyp] LdyFaith, it would be awesome if we had like a week, right?

[LdyFaith] Pollyp,,,or even a day

[Jester] pollyp YOU WILL NOT GET YOUR MONEY IN A WEEK... ANYONE THAT THINKS THEY ARE GOING TO STROLL IN THE BANK AND GET HANDED A BAZILLION DOLLARS FOR THEIR DINAR IS OUT OF THEIR MIND...

[pollyp] Jester, I know, was thinking AFTER

[Jester] THEY WILL RUN BACKGROUND ON YOU AND ASK YOU TO PRODUCE VERIFICATION OF WHERE YOU GOT YOUR STUFF... AND YOU WILL HAVE TO DO PAPERWORK... THEN THE CURRENCY WILL GET SENT OFF TO BE VERIFIED.... ETC. ETC. ETC..

[Jester] MARK MY WORDS PEOPLE... YOU BETTER HAVE A PLAN TO REDUCE THE EFFECT OF YOUR GREED IN THE VERY SHORT TERM IF YOU LIKE TO GET THROUGH THIS... IE... AVOID SPENDING ON STUFF YOU DO NOT ABSOLUTELY NOT HAVE TO HAVE UNTIL THE DUST SETTLES WAY DOWN THE ROAD.... MAKE VERY CAUTIOUS DECISIONS... STOP CHASING OTHER GET RICH QUICK SCHEMES... TAKE WHAT YOU HAVE AND FADE AWAY...

[Jester] THE US HAS SUBJECTED THE WORLD TO THEIR WILL FOR DECADES AND THEY ARE OVER IT... AND TO TELL THE TRUTH SO AM I...

[Jester] DO NOT LIKE TO BE A PARTY TO SUPPORTING A GOVERNMENT THAT KILLS AND MANIPULATES AND STEALS FOR THE GOOD OF THE CORPORATIONS... I AM OVER BEING ASSOCIATED WITH IT...

[Jester] THEY ARE NOT LIKING TO SUBJECT US TO THEIR CONTROL... THEY ARE LIKING TO RID THE WORLD OF THE SNAKE... IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO RUIN US THAT WOULD ALREADY HAVE BEEN DONE...

[TxBikerLady] Jester I'm with you on that! Jester totally over it...

[Jester] WHICH BRINGS ME TO AN ARTICLE I READ TODAY THAT WILL PROVE THAT STATEMENT... HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE THAT?

[LdyFaith] Jester,, yes please

[Jester] OK BUT THIS IS PRETTY LONG.... LET ME GET IT QUEUED UP....

[Jester] I GUESS YOU DID NOT HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ARTICLE FROM LAST NIGHT BEFORE WE START THERE?

[LdyFaith] Jester,,, am sure we are missing something,,, strong reaction,,, but only question was ,,, will we have time or not before the explosion

[Jester] LdyFaith TIME FOR WHAT?

[LdyFaith] Jester,,, time to get out of US currencies altogether,,, I want none of their $

[Jester] Hannah A LOT OF IT WAS... WHICH WAS GOOD... BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT READ AND KEEP UP... MANY ARE SIMPLY LOOKING FOR THE CALL... WHICH IS WHY MANY OF THE OTHERS DON'T COME... THEY ARE ONLY WORRIED ABOUT THE MONEY AND DON'T CARE ABOUT THE REST OF IT... HAHAHAHA

[Jester] Hannah IT IS A CONTINUATION OF WHAT WE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ALL ALONG...

[Hannah] Jester That is so true ... has been that way since the beginning. I'm sure we could all use the money but having it is a huge responsibility that I don't think a lot of people are ready for. I had a friend who was a millionaire. He said getting the money was not nearly as hard as keeping it.

[LdyFaith] Jester,,, I read it 3 times as well,,,,makes me so angry,,, from every angle the have lied,,, cheated,,, evil thieves

[Jester] LdyFaith AND I MAY DO DEEPER TOMORROW... NOT TONIGHT... IT IS MUCH WORSE THAN YOU THINK....

[pollyp] Jester, will the new currency be as bad as JW says?

[Jester] pollyp HE IS A PRETTY SMART GUY... I THINK I WOULD LISTEN TO WHAT HE IS SAYING...

[Jester] THIS IS THE PREDICTION OF 2015 BY CRAIG ROBERTS... AND IT IS A GOOD READ... I AM GOING TO HIT SOME HIGH SPOTS... READY?

[Jester] IT IS ENTITLED... US shaped 2015 to be a year of conflict

[Jester] AND THIS IS APTLY TITLED BECAUSE IT IS THE US MANIPULATION THAT IS THE BOTTOM LINE...

[Jester] The conflict that Washington has initiated between the West and Russia/China is reckless and irresponsible. Nuclear war could be the outcome. Indeed, Washington has been preparing for nuclear war since the George W. Bush regime.

[Jester] Washington has revised US war doctrine in order to initiate conflict with a first strike nuclear attack.

[Jester] Washington has discarded the ABM treaty in order to build and deploy anti-ballistic missiles that are intended to prevent a retaliatory strike against the US. Washington is engaged in a buildup of military forces on Russia’s borders, and Washington is demonizing Russia’s government with false charges.

[Jester] THAT IS THE ANTI-BALLISTIC MISSILE TREATY IN CASE YOU ARE WONDERING WHAT THAT IS...

[Jester] As the Bush/Obama regimes dismantled the safeguards put in place in order to minimize the risk of nuclear war, no protests came from the American public or the media. Washington’s European vassal states have also been silent.

[Jester] THAT IS THE PROBLEM... WE DO NOT STAY INFORMED OF THE DECISIONS OF THE GOVERNMENT AND DO NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT...

[Jester] Washington’s drive for hegemony has brought nuclear insanity to the world.

[Jester] Moscow and Beijing understand that they are Washington’s targets. As Larchmonter explains, Russia and China are conjoining their economic and military capabilities in order to protect against Washington’s attack. (Read what Larchmonter reports. Open the URL in my column below and run your cursor over the bottom of the page and click “page fit.” Choose 50% and readable text will fill your screen.)

[Jester] YOU CAN DO THAT WHEN I POST THE ARTICLE...

[Jester] Washington’s demonization of Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi, and Assad were preludes to military attacks on Iraq, Libya, and Syria. In view of these precedents, it is reasonable to regard Washington’s demonization of Vladimir Putin as a prelude to military action.
[Jester] Russia is not Iraq, Libya, or Syria. Russian war doctrine states that Russia can use nuclear weapons in response to a nuclear or conventional attack on Russia. For the world to sit silent while Washington’s arrogance provokes Armageddon telegraphs total political failure. Where are the voices in behalf of humanity?

[Jester] THE SHEEPLE ARE IGNORANT... SORRY... THEY HAVE NO ACTUAL CLUE DUE TO THE ABSENCE OF THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA TO PROVIDE PERTINENT INFORMATION...

[Jester] he Outlook for the New Year Washington has shaped 2015 to be a year of conflict. The conflict could be intense.

[Jester] Washington is the cause of the conflict, which has been brewing for some time. Russia was too weak to do anything about it when the Clinton regime pushed NATO to Russia’s borders and illegally attacked Yugoslavia, breaking the country into small easily controlled pieces. Russia was also too weak to do anything about it when the George W. Bush regime withdrew from the ABM treaty and undertook to locate anti-ballistic missile bases on Russia’s borders. Washington lied to Moscow that the purpose of the ABM bases is to protect Europe from non-existent Iranian nuclear ICBMs. However, Moscow understood that the purpose of the ABM bases was to degrade Russia’s nuclear deterrent, thereby enhancing Washington’s ability to coerce Russia into agreements that compromise Russian sovereignty.

[Jester] By summer 2008 Russian power had returned. On Washington’s orders, the US and Israeli trained and equipped Georgian army attacked the breakaway republic of South Ossetia during the early hours of August 8, killing Russian peacekeepers and civilian population. Units of the Russian military instantly responded and within a few hours the American trained and equipped Georgian army was routed and defeated. Georgia was in Russia’s hands again, where the province had resided during the 19th and 20th centuries.

[Jester] Putin should have hung Mikheil Saakashvili, the American puppet installed as president of Georgia by the Washington-instigated “Rose Revolution”, and reincorporated Georgia into the Russian Federation. Instead, in a strategic error, Russia withdrew its forces, leaving Washington’s puppet regime in place to cause future trouble for Russia.

[Jester] Washington is pushing hard to incorporate Georgia into NATO, thus adding more US military bases on Russia’s border. However, at the time, Moscow thought Europe to be more independent of Washington than it is and relied on good relations with Europe to keep American bases out of Georgia.

[Jester] Today the Russian government no longer has any illusion that Europe is capable of an independent foreign policy. Russian President Vladimir Putin has stated publicly that Russia has learned that diplomacy with Europe is pointless, because European politicians represent Washington’s interest, not Europe’s. Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov recently acknowledged that Europe’s Captive Nation status has made it clear to Russia that Russian goodwill gestures are unable to produce diplomatic results.

[Jester] THE EU HAS BECOME SHEEPLE TOO... ALTHOUGH I THINK MORE INFORMED THAN THE AMERICAN SHEEPLE...

[Jester] With Moscow’s delusion shattered that diplomacy with the West can produce peaceful solutions, reality has set in, reinforced by the demonization of Vladimir Putin by Washington and its vassal states. Hillary Clinton called Putin the new Hitler. While Washington incorporates former constituent parts of the Russian and Soviet empires into its own empire and bombs seven countries, Washington claims that Putin is militarily aggressive and intends to reconstitute the Soviet empire. Washington arms the neo-nazi regime Obama established in Ukraine, while erroneously claiming that Putin has invaded and annexed Ukrainian provinces. All of these blatant lies are echoed repeatedly by the Western presstitutes. Not even Hitler had such a compliant media as Washington has.

[Jester] Every diplomatic effort by Russia has been blocked by Washington and has come to naught. So now Russia has been forced by reality to update its military doctrine. The new doctrine approved on December 26 states that the US and NATO comprise a major military threat to the existence of Russia as a sovereign independent country.

[Jester] NOW THAT IS INTERESTING ISN'T IT? AND WHO COULD BLAME THEM? THE WEST IS NOTHING BUT A BULLY AND THEY ARE IN THE CORNER AND ABOUT TO COME OUT SWINGING...

[Jester] The Russian document cites Washington’s war doctrine of pre-emptive nuclear attack, deployment of anti-ballistic missiles, buildup of NATO forces, and intent to deploy weapons in space as clear indications that Washington is preparing to attack Russia.

[Jester] AND HERE IS THE KICKER...

[Jester] Washington is also conducting economic and political warfare against Russia, attempting to destabilize the economy with economic sanctions and attacks on the ruble. The Russian document acknowledges that Russia faces Western threats of regime change achieved through “actions aimed at violent change of the Russian constitutional order, destabilization of the political and social environment, and disorganization of the functioning of governmental bodies, crucial civilian and military facilities and informational infrastructure of Russia.” Foreign financed NGOs and foreign owned Russian media are tools in Washington’s hands for destabilizing Russia.

[Jester] SOOOO...

[Jester] Washington’s reckless aggressive policy against Russia has resurrected the nuclear arms race. Russia is developing two new ICBM systems and in 2016 will deploy a weapons system designed to negate the US anti-ballistic missile system. In short, the evil warmongers that rule in Washington have set the world on the path to nuclear Armageddon.

[Jester] NOW IS GETS EVEN MORE SCARY...

[Jester] The Russian and Chinese governments both understand that their existence is threatened by Washington’s hegemonic ambitions. Larchmonter reports that in order to defeat Washington’s plans to marginalize both countries, the Russian and Chinese governments have decided to unify their economies into one and to conjoin their military commands. Henceforth, Russia and China move together on the economic and military fronts   http://www.mediafire.com/view/08rzue8ffism94t/China-Russia_Double_Helix.docx

[Jester] The unity of the Bear and the Dragon reduces the crazed neoconservatives’ dream of “an American century” to dangerous nonsense. As Larchmonter puts it, “The US and NATO would need Michael the Archangel to defeat China-Russia, and from all signs Michael the Archangel is aligned with the Bear and its Orthodox culture. There is no weapon, no strategy, no tactic conceivable in the near future to damage either of these rising economies now that they are ‘base pairs.’”

[Jester] I DO NOT THINK MICHAEL IS ON THE SIDE OF THE US AT THIS TIME... THE US HAS NOT REALLY BEEN A VERY GOOD SUPPORTER OF THAT VIEWPOINT...

[Jester] Larchmonter sees hope in the new geopolitics created by the conjoining of Russia and China. I don’t dispute this, but if the arrogant neoconservatives realize that their hegemonic policy has created a foe over which Washington cannot prevail, they will push for a pre-emptive nuclear strike before the Russian-Chinese unified command is fully operational. To forestall a sneak attack, Russia and China should operate on full nuclear alert.

[Jester] The US economy–indeed the entire Western orientated economy from Japan to Europe–is a house of cards. Since the economic downturn began seven years ago, the entirety of Western economic policy has been diverted to the support of a few over-sized banks, sovereign debt, and the US dollar. Consequently, the economies themselves and the ability of populations to cope have deteriorated.

[Jester] DUH...

[Jester] The financial markets are based on manipulation, not on fundamentals. The manipulation is untenable. With debt exploding, negative real interest rates make no sense. With real consumer incomes, real consumer credit, and real retail sales stagnant or falling, the stock market is a bubble. With Russia, China, and other countries moving away from the use of the dollar to settle international accounts, with Russia developing an alternative to the SWIFT financial network, the BRICS developing alternatives to the IMF and World Bank, and with other parts of the world developing their own credit card and Internet systems, the US dollar, along with the Japanese and European currencies that are being printed in order to support the dollar’s exchange value, could experience a dramatic drop in exchange value, which would make the import-dependent Western world dysfunctional.
[Jester] In my opinion, it took the Russians and Chinese too long to comprehend the evil that has control in Washington. Therefore, both countries risk nuclear attack prior to the full operational capability of their conjoined defense. As the Western economy is a house of cards, Russia and China could collapse the Western economy before the neoconservatives can drive the world to war. As Washington’s aggression against both countries is crystal clear, Russia and China have every right to the following defensive measures.

[Jester] I THINK I AGREE WITH THAT STATEMENT TOO...

[Jester] As the US and EU are conducting economic warfare against Russia, Russia could claim that by wrecking the Russian economy the West has deprived Russia of the ability to repay loans to the European banks. If this does not bring down the thinly capitalized EU banks, Russia can announce that as NATO countries are now officially recognized by Russian war doctrine as an enemy of the Russian state, Russia can no longer support NATO’s aggression against Russia by selling natural gas to NATO members. If the shutdown of much of European industry, rapidly rising rates of unemployment, and bank failures do not result in the dissolution of NATO and thus the end of the threat, the Chinese can act.

[Jester] YIKES!

[Jester] The Chinese hold a very large amount of dollar-denominated financial assets. Just as the Federal Reserve’s agents, the bullion banks, dump massive shorts onto the bullion futures markets during periods of little activity in order to drive down the bullion price, China can dump the equivalent in US Treasuries of years of Quantitative Easing in a few minutes. If the Federal Reserve quickly creates dollars with which to purchase the enormous quantity of Treasuries so that the financial house of cards does not implode, the Chinese can then dump the dollars that they are paid for the bonds in the currency market. Whereas the Federal Reserve can print dollars with which to purchase the Treasuries, the Fed cannot print foreign currencies with which to buy the dollars.

[Jester] The dollar would collapse, and with it the power of the Hegemoney. The war would be over without a shot or missile fired.

[Jester] AND THAT FOLKS IS PLAN B... THEY DON'T LIKE TO... BUT I THINK THEY WILL...

[Jester] In my view, Russia and China owe it to the world to prevent the nuclear war intended by the neoconservatives simply by replying in kind to Washington’s economic warfare. Russia and China hold all the cards. Not Washington.

[Jester] AND I THINK THEY SHOULD USE THEM... AND NOW YOU KNOW WHY...

[Jester] Russia and China should give no warning. They should just act. Indeed, instead of step by step, Russia and China could simultaneously use the counter-measures. With four US banks holding derivatives totaling many times world GDP, the financial explosion would be the equivalent to a nuclear one. The US and Europe would be finished, and the world would be saved.

[Jester] AND SO DOES THE WRITER... HAHAHAHA

[Jester] Larchmonter possibly is correct. 2015 could be a very good year, but pre-emptive economic moves by Moscow and Beijing could be required. Putin’s current plan seems to be to turn away from the West, ignore the provocations, and mesh Russia’s strategic and economic interests with those of Asia. This is a humane and reasonable course of action, but it leaves the West untroubled and undistracted by its economic vulnerabilities. An untroubled West remains a grave danger not only to Russia and China but also to Americans and the entire world.

[Jester] SO THERE YOU HAVE IT... NOT THAT GOOD... A LITTLE SCARY... HERE IS THE LINK...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-outlook-for-the-new-year-the-insanity-of-nuclear-war-against-russia/5422006

[Jester] A VERY WELL WRITTEN ARTICLE ON WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE WORLD IN MY OPINION...

[Jester] SOOOOO... I THINK THAT ANSWERS SOMEONE’S QUESTION BEFORE ON IF THERE WILL BE TIME... THE ANSWER IS THE SAME... DEPENDS ON HOW FAR THIS GOES...

[Betsy Ross] Jester WOW!

[Hoosier Girl] WOW is right

[Americana] Jester YIKES

[stillwacko] Jester quite a message

[Jester] YOU GUYS SHOULD GET IN THE HABIT OF GETTING UP EVERY DAY AND OPENING UP THESE WEBSITES WE USE IN HERE AND EDUCATING YOURSELVES ON WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE WORLD...

[KMAN] Puttin is the good guy in all of this...

[Hannah] Jester Whenever I read/hear about things like this I get mad, disappointed, po'd like the rest of you. But there is a subtle undercurrent of sadness and heartbreak that I feel too. I have loved America for a very, very long time.

[Jester] KMAN PRETTY MUCH.... THAT IS WHY WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME THE US NEEDS TO DO THIS OR THAT I KNOW THEY DO NOT HAVE A CLUE...

[pollyp] Why is China just not collapsing our sorry butts?

[pollyp] We sure deserve it

[Jester] pollyp LIKE I SAID BEFORE... THEY HAVE A HUMANITARIAN SIDE.... THE US WOULD NOT CARE ABOUT THEM... BUT THEY ARE A MUCH GREATER SOCIETY THAN WE ARE IN RETROSPECT... HATE TO SAY THAT BUT IT IS TRUE... ANYONE THAT TRULY UNDERSTANDS THE TRUTH CAN SEE IT AS PLAIN AS DAY...

[KMAN] This is a turning point for humanity... The question is, what side of the fence will we fall?

[Jester] pollyp AND THEY UNDERSTAND THERE IS A FACTION LIKING TO GET THE REPUBLIC BACK ON TRACK... THIS IS THE PART THAT IS HARD FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND…..THE POSSIBILITY OF THE REPUBLIC IS ALL THAT IS KEEPING THEM FROM STABBING US RIGHT NOW...

[Jester] THEY REALIZE THAT IF THAT GETS DONE THEN EVERYTHING WILL CHANGE AND WE WILL BE THE PEOPLE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE...

[pollyp] Thank God for that

[TxBikerLady] Jester I like this article, it makes sense and reiterates what I have been reading. TY for bringing this to us.

[KMAN] Another good read and listen when you get up tomorrow: Paul Craig Roberts Stunning 2015 Predictions – At Any Time The West Can Collapse    http://kingworldnews.com/paul-craig-roberts-stunning-2015-predictions-time-west-can-collapse/

Jester MAYBE WE WILL DO THAT ONE TOMORROW... NO TIME FOR THAT TONIGHT...

[TxBikerLady] Jester an economic collapse may wake up a few...

[Betsy Ross] and make some realize that we aren't crazy

[Jester] TxBikerLady YEP... AND IT MAY COME TO THAT... I AM NOT SO SURE THAT WOULD NOT BE THE BETTER PATH TO GET THE SHEEPLE WOKE UP.... BUT I CANNOT DECIDE...

[Hoosier Girl] The only way for most of the sheeple to wake up it hit em hard....

[Jester] Hoosier Girl IN THE POCKETBOOK...

[TxBikerLady] Jester it may be better unfortunately, but I have a suspicion they will blame other countries and not see the real truth of what actually happened

[LuckyB] economic collapse , they would just blame Russia .. or if he blamed obama they would be right

[Jester] LuckyB MAYBE... WAIT TILL YOU SEE WHAT I HAVE QUEUED UP FOR TOMORROW... YOU WILL REALLY BE CHAPPED... HAHAHAHAHA

[KMAN] Prep hard time is short.

[Jester] KMAN THAT IS THE TRUTH... WE ARE STILL UNSURE OF WHICH WAY THINGS WILL GO... BEST TO BE READY....

[Jester] IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A COUPLE MONTHS OF CANNED GOODS LAID IN ALREADY YOU ARE SIMPLY NOT LISTENING...

[Jester] SO ANYWAY... I GUESS IT IS A WRAP FOR TONIGHT... HOPE YOU ALL HAVE SOMETHING FUN PLANNED FOR TOMORROW... MAKE IT A GOOD ONE...

[Jester] BLESSING TO ALL... NIGHT...