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Post by livingintheloop69 Sat Dec 14, 2013 2:37 pm

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Post by Ponee Sat Dec 14, 2013 2:49 pm

I will bet you ANY MONEY that is a Guru that decided to get in on the action and start his own currency selling.  What do all of you  think?

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Post by livingintheloop69 Sat Dec 14, 2013 5:52 pm

I origionally thought the same thing as it's kinda late in the game to jump into selling Dinar. Seems more people these days either have all they want or have turned pessimistic. A while back there was an ebay dinar seller who would be a guest on TNT Tony's confrence calls. It was the same ebay name back then as the name of the website so I'm guessing the guy just decided to jump off ebay and launch his own site. Seems like he's tied in with TNT Tony though. It's one thing to call this an investment but to make promises of making millions. I'm surprised the SEC isn't up his but already.

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Post by Kevind53 Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:18 pm

Currency sales are not subject to the SEC. It's not considered a securities product as opposed to say currency futures which are. As near as I can tell you just have to be registered as a currency dealer by the UST.

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Post by livingintheloop69 Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:04 pm

currency sales is not an investment because most people buy currency to go on trips or because they are moving, however when you market something as being an investment it is most definatley an investment. also, the guy sells options, an option is the definition of a security which is an investment. this is exactly why that BH group was indicted. There thing from my understanding had more to do with selling a hedge fund which didn't exist but i read the indictment and they did mention marketing currency as an investment and promising returns as some of the charges.

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Post by Kevind53 Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:52 pm

Selling options, futures, etc. is as I indicated a different thing. Hedge funds are also investment products and as such considered securities products and as such are subject to SEC regulations and for the dealer, licensing. This is actually an area I am very versed with as an insurance agent who also works with financial advisers. I have to be very aware of the boundaries and be careful not to cross over them, even accidentally. For instance, even if a person wants to buy an insurance product such as for instance, a life insurance policy, if the funding is from a securities product, to stay within the guidelines, I have to bring in a FA to handle that end. The rules are very, very strict.

The majority of currency dealers however, do not offer those sorts of products, and so are not subject to SEC regulation. Actual currency itself even if purchased as an investment, is not considered a securities product. In part ,that is because it is not subject to the same volatility, and potential for loss that are typical of stocks, bonds, and related products.

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Post by dinarstar Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:37 am

The SEC need to introduce him to Baba Madorf  flame

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Post by Ponee Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:38 am

Livingintheloop -- thanks for that information about the ebay seller turned dealer ... interesting indeed.

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Post by livingintheloop69 Mon Dec 16, 2013 11:58 am

I always wonder what incentive the gurus have. I mean somme of these guys put in serious time with their schemes. That TNT not sure if he still does but used to have like 3 confrence calls a week running several hours each as well as all the forums and blogs he posts on. There has to be something in it for them to spent the time and energy doing this. Not sure if they are dealers or are linked up with dealers or what

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Post by Ponee Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:01 pm

He has more now.... seems like every night .  And yes, some are dealers, some are working with dealers and linked up with dealers.

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