New Member

[Suemark]

Hi everyone,
I registered today the site looks very interesting. I am glad to be here. I hope everyone has a fantastic day/night.
Blessings

[Chaz]

Ok ,I got you Sue, this is chaz

[Suemark]

Hi Chaz

[Suemark]

How can I give you further information regarding our discussion earlier. Sorry I am new to the website and haven't really figured out on how things work around here.

[Chaz]

Just start explaining what you have told me, there are people now on you blog

[Chaz]

Also try to PM me when you can , I well give you my phone number, you can call me , I can't give my number openly here for privacy policy reasons, I put you down as a friend.

[Suemark]

I wrote a reply but lost all the info. Can you please email me I tried to send you a private message but I don't know how. my phone is disconnected because I was unable to make payment. The person I was referring to as a friend is actually myself but I didn't want to say it openly ( well now I have).

[RamblerNash]

How can I give you further information regarding our  discussion earlier. Sorry I am new to the website and haven't really figured out on how things work around here.

Welcome to Dinar Daily!

If you have any questions, you can just ask on a post or if you rather, in a PM to one of the regulars or mods for assistance using the forum.

:juggle: :spring1: :okjh:

[Chaz]

Bless your heart Sue, I am so sorry, that's ok your among friends here , I trust them , we have been on a crusade together, one thing we hate here are scammers ,we are here to help you, I'll email you now.
Blessings Charles

[RamblerNash]

Just start explaining what you have told me, there are people now on you blog

[Suemark]

I got scammed by so called Pastors who claim to heal the sick. I am vulnerable and beleived them, they took over 5000 US and now I am struggling. I have no one to talk to either. These people may have done the same thing to other vulnerable people like myself. They go by the name of Pastor Michael Brown, Mr James and Uche Egeonu. they are from the UK.

[RamblerNash]

Sue,

I send you a PM. You can click on the PM button at the bottom of my post or click on the PM in the sword at the top of the forum page the get it.

[Chaz]

I just met Sue on YouTube channel, she needs our help ,first of all she is very sick, she needs our prayers, immediately, second she has been conned by a unscrupulous individual who has taken her money, all her money, no she's not asking for monetary help, but she wants to expose this person, so no one else gets scammed.
Ok everyone this is something that we all can sink our teeth in.
What do you all think?

[Suemark]

I'm definitely not asking for money, I just want these people exposed so people won't fall into their trap. I hope no one took it the wrong way, I was just telling my story so others can be aware.
Thank you for the prayers ❤❤

[RamblerNash]

I'm definitely not asking for money, I just want these people exposed so people won't fall into my trap. I hope no one took it the wrong way, I was just telling my story so others can be aware.
Thank you for the prayers ❤❤

Do you have any more details. Those names you provided don't immediately come up with anything.

Do they have a website?

[Suemark]

I submitted a prayer request on a website ( I forgot the website name I will look into it) and a female wrote me an email saying that she felt sorry for me and that she was ill and a Pastor had helped her for free and that she was completely healed. She gave me his email address to contact him. That's how it began. They don't have a website. They must see posts from websites and contact people like myself. I

[RamblerNash]

Well let's work with what we have...

Pastor Michael Brown, Mr James Egeonu and Mr. Uche Egeonu all from the UK?

Do you think that the female was a shill for those folks?

(I sent you another of those PM thingys)

[Suemark]

Yes she definitely was. I was hesitant at first but they were very convincing.
Pastor Brown is from the UK but the oil company ( where you purchase the anointing oil from) are located in Nigeria so Mr James and UCHE Egeonu are fron Nigeria. I HAVE their phone numbers also.

[Suemark]

I am really embarrassed of all this and ashamed

[RamblerNash]

I am really embarrassed of all this and ashamed

Don't be.

Egeonu searches come up with Nigeria.

[Suemark]

Hes from Nigeria who owns HM oil company. I searched for the company online but was unable to find any information, however Pastor Michael Brown is from the UK. I have his phone number.

[Suemark]

I thought I'd do research on their IP address but little information was provided.

[RamblerNash]

I thought I'd do research on their IP address but little information was provided.

You may be able to get some IP's from their emails.

Having the pastors phone number may get you an address...

[Suemark]

He doesn't care he said "report me I am no scammer " and continues to write to me but refuses to give my money back after showing evidence that I have been sent letters from debt collectors. I warned him that I would expose him he said "I have nothing to worry about". If I send him an email now he will respond.

[Purpleskyz]

Hi Sue! Welcome

Hey no reason to be ashamed. There are so many scammers out there and they are slick. They prey on people who are down. They count on you to feel ashamed so you won't report them. And it works! Which is why so many others get taken as it self perpetuates with each silence.

Hopefully something can be done about this "Pastor". May I ask if you reported him to any authorities?

[Suemark]

Hi there,
I haven't reported him because I was ashamed and didn't know where to begin. I met Chaz via Youtube and thought it's about time I say something so more people like myself won't fall into this trap. The whole experience took a toll on me financially but mainly mentally. I have depression and experience anxiety.

[Suemark]

These are their email addresses.

[Chaz]

Good morning Sue, & RamblerNash , Purpleskyz, & Ponee, all the rest of the members . By now many of you have read Sue"s welcome chat board, please continue to welcome her , and I apologize if I have went across any line here, but other than contacting authorities on 2 or more continents & still not getting any help in any time frame I have come here with now my friend Sue.
Please forgive me, but I love people to much especially the down trodden, broken , sincere , God's people, its why I am here on this site. But it's not about me .
So I am going to write a article today on the other part of the site for everyone to read, leaving this for the proper greetings site as is is designate to be ,thanks again Ponee .

[kenmor]

Sorry and again sorry if I am wrong but this all sounds a little fishy to me!   This is how most of those scammers start....no phone to contact them, playing the victim, Sue also has no friends.....and not asking for money YET!  I hope I am wrong and I apologize if I am wrong!  But if I smell a rat, I want to share my thoughts too and warn Dinar Daily and readers to be aware!!  
 
Did you involve the law Sue? $5000 is a lot of money and I am sure you did not give a stranger you met on the street that much $$$, so they must have been from your church or other place?  

There are facebook and other websites of a Rev. M.Brown in the UK .....so if that is the one, questions can be asked to the Rev. or  Pastor!

The other name [size=15]Uche Egeonu[/size] came up as an african actor or prince on the net who is also sick and asking for $$$??  Hmmm

My point is, if these people are healers as they claim, they should have websites and blogs promoting their services and nada to be found??!  So were these names made up by the new member or were they actual scammers?

[Chaz]

I been in this game for a long time the first thing the laws says is it is almost impossible to do something when the scammers are in another country, all countries have different laws different ways of doing things, it would take forever to even get a conviction, go & ask the laws enforcement agencies yourself Kinmor, besides that I screened her before I even ask her to come over, so that means you don't trust me ether, have I ever asked anyone for money here, No, check the archives as I have said that to the victims & the gurus , this site is to help people not to harm them anymore than they have been ,I guess you never have been sick to the point of death nor have you been desperate enough to ask for help also, & I hope you never have too, but nevertheless you don't have to get involved if you think your going to loose some money , its funny you already have & I don't see you that much here on this site other than still thinking that your still going to be rich from a scam. Sorry if I am wrong ,but you have already showed your true colors to me of all people , I have spent a lot of time here on dinar daily, because for one I care about people, two I have never been wrong, three I have a lot of experience in these matters, I don't need a apology from you but I believe you need to make one to Sue, until you can prove beyond a shadow of doubt that your being conned then just stick to what you know.I take full responsibility about this whole matter with Sue ,if you loose any money I will reimburse you in full.
Blessings Charles

[Purpleskyz]

No is going to lose any money right ? so this is a moot point as Sue clearly states she only wants to help bust out a scammer.

But I do hope that you report this fraud Sue. This is where it starts the process in alerting the authorities in the hopes they actually get off their well paid butts and solve crime.

[kenmor]

Chaz I never said I did not trust you, just some things she mentioned raised a red flag.  I wrote this to protect you and others! If you say that you have researched Sue and you find her to be truthful, so glad to hear that,  I apologize, I am on your side!  
 Sometimes we can get caught up in lies, unfortunately this world is full of liars. 

 I wish Sue a speedy recovery and will pray for her to send her some good luck.  Hey... according to some websites the year 2017 will be a year of truth and revelation and we will all be scanned and healed from all dis eases and all be rich in all aspects of life.....wouldn't that be the bomb!

You all have a super 2017!

[Chaz]

Ok agree ,but the logistics are against her, I know I have tried to get conviction on scammers across the ocean ,law enforcement agencies has there hands tied, they are at a lost, like I said ask a person in the fraud department in any agencies, while we sit here leaning on some law enforcement agency to do something that they can't, as Sue says these con artists are free & ripping off people every day, good example what we are trying not do with this ridiculous dinar scam ,what has the FBI ,sheriffs departments, States attorneys has done with these gurus? There still ripping people off daily, it is wrong if we don't take control of this and at least warn , people, that's all Sue is asking ,plus prayer ,plus help her in contacting someone as in a law enforcement agency, my God she is sick, in depression, she is embarrassed, you know something else , if I ever got sick or in trouble.of some sorts I have no family at all to help me you know why ,? there all dead, now is that to much to ask ?the next victim could be one of your own family.

[Chaz]

Amen ,Kenmor, I appreciate your concerns but I'm a big boy now , & until those wonderful things happen for the good we are still our brother's keeper, amen?

[Purpleskyz]

May I point out that there will be no chance at all of any convictions if this goes unreported. We all know that these so called FBI agents move at a snails pace and are not all that reliable. But if enough people report a scam they might be inclined to investigate. It is all numbers game to these guys.
Maybe inquiring if any others have fallen prey to these guys might also help.

[Chaz]

I have been hammering the FBI on the dinar scam I have been hammering the news media's, I haven't even gotten one email or phone call, plus the FBI is so bias now since before the elections and even after , to be honest I don't even trust them , now I know that a private investigation firm would help , but they cost money, that is not the route to take because of that, so as much as I have seen here on dinar daily, from some of you on the investigations on these gurus, I thought it would be at least something that someone would try to do and produce some answers to bat least help others to earn the public, I am on YouTube somewhat now , I am making a little progress , meaning I am making some connections hopefully, but its in it infant stages, but it would help if we could get some information on these so called pastors (con artists) I may could step up the game then, but I only have a smart phone too ,

[Purpleskyz]

Sure we should definitely get the word out!

[kenmor]

My thoughts exactly Purpleskyz.....Sue needs to report this cause the least that might get done is that these people are being put on a "black" list and will have trouble entering the US.  Maybe get on the INTERPOL list,,,,just thinking out loud!

Chaz yes I have been very ill and spent 6 months and then some in the hospital in a country (the US) where I have no family (luckily some really good friends).  What has saved me is not the doctors, they caused me to have cardiac arrest 2X because of wrong meds.  What saved me was my POSITIVE mind and i KNOW that is a FACT and my own research in regards to my condition!  Without that I would not have been on this earth!  

What Sue needs to do immediately is to lose the depression....stress kills!  And 2nd lose the shame!  There is nothing to be ashamed off, we ALL have been scammed one way or another!  3rd I do not know Sue's condition but look into alternative ways of healing, that is all I do now...Drs do not see me!!!   BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE FIRST IS TO LOSE THE DEPRESSION, find help....there is sooo much online these days to assist you!  That will be the first step of healing!

And remember KARMA is a B....!  Justice will be done!
There are no problems but there are SOLUTIONS!
And yes Chaz AMEN!   :juggle:

[Chaz]

Thanks Kenmor, I love you too, but I'm trying to get people thinking here, its going to be a time that we will need each other I like to believe everything will be rosy but as I see things around me that just isn't adding up, I am preparing for the worst , hopeing for the best, nevertheless I'm here to help in the capacity that I am capable of doing.
I apologize kenmor for being so upset with you, but this is where I stand with Sue, & others who have lost everything because of evil, I've been there , still it's constant battle yet, so I can imagine what people are going threw , & others have not yet gone threw.
It's not about me if it was I wouldn't be here , I must get the conversation started , that we are here to help others.
Love ya Kenmor
Charles

[kenmor]

You do not need to be sorry about being upset with me, I can handle it, I am a big girl! LOL
We all have the right to our own opinion but letz focus on the glass half full vs half empty!
And make this world a better place!
It is also very great of you to help others but others need to help themselves first before they can accept help from others!   :winky winky:

[Chaz]

God bless, I guess I don't have to do a article now ,LOL,,,! I believe I have said enough, I'm in communication by email with Sue, she is reading everything here , so I'm going to play it by ear, see what happens, but I believe , I know there are people being scammed especially on YouTube, right now by these false teachers, interesting to say the least, but really sad.
Blessings Charles

[Suemark]

I apologise for that late response due to the time difference . I just want to point out that when you are very ill the only thing you think about is your health and nothing matters to you at that moment. These people were very convincing, at the start I was hesitant I did my research but was unable to find any negative views about them therefore I proceeded with the healing. I wasn't worried about the money at that time. I was unable to eat and walk and could hardly talk. My friends and family don't know how bad my situation is because I have hid it from everyone. I tried to explain it to my family but I didn't want them to worry therefore I am dealing with this all by myself.
There are many people out there that take advantage of vulnerable people like myself. I can't get out of the house and that is another reason why I haven't reported them. I am mentally drained. I didn't want to get into much detail about myself but I think I need to as I may be misunderstood.

[Suemark]

I can proove that I have sent these people money, I have all the transactions available. I had sent it through Western Union. I will never ever lie to anyone, what will I gain from all of this? I have been emailing Chaz and if he likes I can attach all the statements to him. On another note, I honestly don't care about the money, money comes and goes I just want to be healthy and I also wanted this to be a warning for others who are vulnerable like myself. I will email that Pastor and paste our conversation here which will also proove that I am not a liar, he still repsonds to my emails as he is trying to take more money from me. I don't wish this upon anyone.

[Purpleskyz]

No need...
You don't have to prove your intentions here but good to know you have all of the info in case you do decide to go forward in the future when you are better. Also sometimes when someone has something that is criminal in nature and they can not get out a person could be dispatched to you to be interviewed. But that is here in the US and I don't know the working of AU.
We do have someone here in Australia though. I will send her this link and maybe she could chime in.

[Suemark]

3 things have stopped me from reporting these people,
1. Shame
2. I am unable to leave the house.
3. no one knows my situation

Purpleskyz I really appreciate that you understand me and thank you for your response. Im not writing these so people can feel sorry for me, this is what really happened. If I wanted people to feel for me I would tell my friends and family. I just want the word out so these criminals can be stopped.

[alleyrose]

Hey Sue  what part of Australia are you from mate?

[Suemark]

I'm from Melbourne. Are you from Australia?

[alleyrose]

Yes I am!

[alleyrose]

Have you been here forever or have you recently moved here?

[Suemark]

I've been here forever, how about you?