Bear5642 10 28 2011

by matwms Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:43 pm

10-28-2011 Guru Bear5642 IT LOOKS LIKE INFORMATION IS LINING UP FOR AN RV TO TAKE PLACE, JMO. I DON'T THINK IT WILL HAPPEN TODAY MAYBE SUNDAY HOWEVER I DON'T SEE THIS GOING PAST NOVEMBER 3RD.
IN THE EVENT SOMETHING HAPPENS AND THIS IS DELAYED WE WILL WORK OUR
HARDEST TO GIVE AN EXPLANATION A TO WHY AND WHAT, WE WILL NOT JUST DISAPPEAR. IT IS COMING FROM OUR SOURCES WHOM WE HAVE TESTED AND TRIED
IN AND OUT AND SO FAR WHAT THEY HAVE TOLD US HAS COME TO PASS REMEMBER WE SAID 30 DAYS AGO NO RV AND THEN UPDATED WITH THE NOVEMBER 3RD WINDOW
Read more: http://www.dinarguru.com/#ixzz1c6iClJAS

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by openmind Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:44 pm

NEW DATE: Thursday November 3 (Which by the way is the last open day next week for the CBI)

by mommyof3boys Fri Oct 28, 2011 3:56 pm

The 3rd works for me! That is my 21st wedding anniversary Smile

I think that would be a wonderful present LOL Smile

by trebor1859 Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:19 pm

So much for Bear "hanging it up for awhile" if no RV by the 3rd. Time will tell. Much different than claiming beginning of the week. "This is the week" Gurus bring on the criticism themselves with so many unfulfilled promises.

by climber77 Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:32 pm

Right on Trebor. That's why I 'called out' bear--holding him to his own words but others don't like accountability or the truth so my post got deleted real fast.

Guess he just couldn't help himself and got desperate for some more self inflating attention. Really sad for him and those who fall over every word he says....

by humingbyrd Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:34 pm

climber77 wrote:Right on Trebor. That's why I 'called out' bear--holding him to his own words but others don't like accountability or the truth so my post got deleted real fast.

Guess he just couldn't help himself and got desperate for some more self inflating attention. Really sad for him and those who fall over every word he says....

Wow, you have been on this site for a total of four (4) days and you have it all figured out. Good for you! We sure are glad that you have come here to share your infinite wisdom with us all!

by climber77 Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:37 pm

Excuse me....I've been on here a LOT longer than that. Check your facts before speaking

by humingbyrd Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:39 pm

climber77 wrote:Excuse me....I've been on here a LOT longer than that. Check your facts before speaking

Really, your join date states 10/24/11, so how can that be!

by jahlives Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:09 pm

terbo56 wrote:Some people can be on these sites for a long time b 4 they actually register,So don't b busting Climber77's cajones-

Ooooh, terbo56, you forced me to go the dictionary b/c I have never seen the word "cojone." Bear5642 10 28 2011 576492484

by climber77 Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:20 pm

Thanks terbo for having my back.

I actually have been on here for many months but last week I couldn't log on for some reason. My password didn't work so I re-registered under same name--different email address.

THAT'S how that can be.....

by climber77 Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:20 pm

Also...how long one has been on here has nothing to do with intelligence or integrity.

Just sayin'.....

by 1alaskan Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:26 pm

Let me see, What does 11/03/2011 really mean?

Don't rush me, I'm thinking,

I think it means next Thursday, Well, I for one am sure it will come, Thursdays always do.

by jahlives Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:30 pm

climber77 wrote:Right on Trebor. That's why I 'called out' bear--holding him to his own words but others don't like accountability or the truth so my post got deleted real fast.

Guess he just couldn't help himself and got desperate for some more self inflating attention. Really sad for him and those who fall over every word he says....

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climber77: I honestly don't think your post was deleted b/c of what you addressed, but how you addressed it. We have minds of our own and can discern whether or not to read "intel" from certain "providers" and take it to heart. We are aware of what Bear stated, so why not chill and move forward from here? At some point, this RI/RV is going to occur and will any of this matter in the end? I appreciate you and every one that is here b/c I can learn from anybody, even if the lesson is how I should not conduct myself. WE ARE ONE!

by climber77 Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:57 pm

Ok...the rock bottom line on why I speak up is because there are so many people hanging on his--and other gurus'--words that their getting hurt and depressed and this is nothing more than mind games for them. As I said in my deleted post....when I see wrong being deliberately done--something 'rises up' in me to defend others and call out those who are being deceitful. I'm all about the truth and exposing lies. It especially disturbs me when people do this to feed their own sorry egos. I'm a life-long believer who has been to seminary and the mission field. My heart is in the right place and for the people. God doesn't tolerate this kind of nonsense and neither should we. We're called to hold each other accountable and that's simply what I'm doing.

Peace all....

by jahlives Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:13 pm

climber77 wrote:Ok...the rock bottom line on why I speak up is because there are so many people hanging on his--and other gurus'--words that their getting hurt and depressed and this is nothing more than mind games for them. As I said in my deleted post....when I see wrong being deliberately done--something 'rises up' in me to defend others and call out those who are being deceitful. I'm all about the truth and exposing lies. It especially disturbs me when people do this to feed their own sorry egos. I'm a life-long believer who has been to seminary and the mission field. My heart is in the right place and for the people. God doesn't tolerate this kind of nonsense and neither should we. We're called to hold each other accountable and that's simply what I'm doing.

Peace all....

Namaste, climber77. I totally comprehend.

by rbrtthefish Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:37 pm

I love it :cheers:

by DTConcerned Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:29 pm

My psychic ball says 11/02/2011 or 11022011 OMG, it is mirroring the year. Everyone see the power of the number, reflection and doubles and symbolic of the twin events. It has to be real because it sounds so rediculous. ...

"They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa
To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be
happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're
coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!!!"

from: Dr. Demento's Delights
Warner Bros. 1975 BS 2855 0698

by besh Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:38 pm

DTConnected,

Very creative and interesting...

by 1alaskan Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:41 pm

DTConcerned wrote:My psychic ball says 11/02/2011 or 11022011 OMG, it is mirroring the year. Everyone see the power of the number, reflection and doubles and symbolic of the twin events. It has to be real because it sounds so rediculous. ...

"They're coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!
They're coming to take me away, ho-ho, hee-hee, ha-haaa
To the funny farm. Where life is beautiful all the time and I'll be
happy to see those nice young men in their clean white coats and they're
coming to take me away, ha-haaa!!!!!"

<H2>from: Dr. Demento's Delights
Warner Bros. 1975 BS 2855 0698

</H2>

Funny, very funny, Thanks

by stevejss1 Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:53 pm

Stick to it climber77

by climber77 Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:18 pm

Thanks ya'll. Blessings on everyone, your families, and your investment in this.

Have a great weekend!

by Azure Fri Oct 28, 2011 9:53 pm

from: Dr. Demento's Delights
Warner Bros. 1975 BS 2855 0698

Well that was a trip to the way back machine "Dr Demento"

by Juice Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:09 pm

If you read all the replys to Bear's post, some were positive thinking and the others were negative. For those of you that have a negative response, You are intitled to your opinion but remember no one is perfect except for God! All of the Dinar Gurus have made mistakes! And I mean all them! Does that mean they are bad people? No! We need these intel providers to guide us to the RV. Bashing is not going to produce an RV! We are close guys! Stay positive & stay in game! Don't waste your energy with negitivity!

by readysetrv Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:50 am

You are right on the mark climber. After reading this post, I just want to know when anything that bear or scottig has brought to the table in terms of intel has "truly/factually" or ever come to pass.

IS COMING FROM OUR SOURCES WHOM WE HAVE TESTED AND TRIED
IN AND OUT AND SO FAR WHAT THEY HAVE TOLD US HAS COME TO PASS REMEMBER WE SAID 30 DAYS AGO NO RV AND THEN UPDATED WITH THE NOVEMBER 3RD WINDOW

What kills me is when you hear these guys say things like scotti said in his post yesterday. "I will not repeat what was relayed to me from a most trusted source out of Iraq yesterday morning. It would just drive everyone nuts with questions and anticipation." LOLOLOLOL I have heard this guy say this same thing for over a year.

Here is another one of this famous one liners. " I am not allowed to speak of specific events related to the security of the information on the rate or the date but let me say this."

This kills me... He has ZERO "correct" intel on any of this. He/they talk about this top secret info., that they have confidentiallity agreements on, and it is all a load!!! LOLOLOL! How is it so easy to know this??? Because their intel has NEVER EVER EVER EVER BEEN RIGHT!!!

I love it when they say they will not bring intel that they have not verified so as not to start rumors.....Well, for the last 2 years that is all they have done is to start rumors that have had ZERO MERIT!! THAT IS WHERE ALL THE RUMORS COME FROM.. Here and PTR!! I'm actually laughing right now, as this is just pure comedy that one single person still believes these posts.

Wasn't it a little over a month ago that scotti just knew for sure and had all his sources confrim that Kuwait had RV'd???? Honestly that would have been easily verified before being brought to the boards as the gospel. And this is just one wrong post brought out of "100's"

I'll end it on this just to prove my point, from scotti's post yesterday.

"I know the 'good' information Bear and I are receiving is reliable.

You don't have to take me at my word, but those who know me like Okie and Bear will tell you I am a stickler about vetting information out thoroughly before be accept it as viable. Bear and I have seen a lot of smoke and nonsense come across our path this week and we have to stay vigilant and alert or we will get sucked up into the always misleading stinky stuff!!!!!!"

WHAT??? WHAT??? It's mind blowing to read this, when all the intel that they have ever brought has been WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL Oh man oh man, simply unreal. It's like I am reading something from the twilight zone.

I would love to be proven wrong, and shown a couple times when they were actually right, I mean shown with proof, and not just hear say..

Look, I really feel sorry for bear scotti johnny and so on, because they just can't see that their contacts/secret sources are flat out doing nothing but leading them on with flat out false information!! It's really a sad set of affairs!!

Come on you so-called gurus, I know you can pull away from your sources that mislead you and have you bring intel that misleads the good people that follow your ever word. Put you big boy pants on and find some credible sources that can give you correct intel for once....LOL " just having a little fun with the last paragraph"...

GO RVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV!

by foundbetter Sat Oct 29, 2011 8:56 am

stop using common sense! you are not going to assimilate properly when the time comes to give them some of your new found wealth to help build a commune aka branch davidian. when you come here you must take your brain out and put it on the book shelf, nod your head and say thank you. Relax it will happen.....

by readysetrv Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:05 am

foundbetter, now that's funny! Good laugh to start the Saturday off!

by alice mize Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:22 am

You have to rember that it is not the information they give it is Iraqi that seems to change their minds

by climber77 Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:58 am

Good morning readysetrv!

You totally get where I'm coming from as well as a few others invested in this dinar.

The one thing that continues to bug me....and I'm not trying to start some conspiracy theory here--just using my brain and trying to flesh out what's really going on behind the scenes and not brainlessly following along like sheep....

I wonder what these gurus TRUE motives are for spreading lies and misinformation for SO MANY YEARS? I mean...c'mon, the game HAS to get really old if there's nothing in it for them right? So, besides the power trip they get and the feeding of their egos from all the praise they receive from their 'followers'.....what else motivates them day in/day out to keep this up? The only logical thing I can think of is they're getting paid (and paid extremely well) to put this mis-information out every day so they and others paying them can keep making profit. What else can it be? They KNOW their sources are no good nor is their info and yet....the keep shoving it down people's throats who are willing to eat it. Something's up.

Now, I will concede that there may be a few who are genuine (though it's getting harder to know who they are) and yes I agree there's a lot of misinformation intentionally put out for security reasons--that makes sense--but when people keep doing this intentionally day after day they're getting something more out of it than an ego boost.

That is why people need to be held accountable and that's an ugly word for most everyone these days. No one wants to be held accountable but when there is none--you get chaos in many forms.

My final thought is if you sincerely follow God, then you know God and His nature never changes. Back in the O.T. times when a prophet's prophesy didn't come true do you remember what happened to them? They were put to death.
I'm not suggesting we do that with the gurus but it's the principle that I'm getting at here. If God viewed those who were false and lied to the people and misled them--He viewed it so strongly that they were put to death....then the point is we MUST call out those who are doing the same things and deceiving people and stop them from continuing what they're doing.

by wes Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:10 am

climber77 wrote:Good morning readysetrv!

You totally get where I'm coming from as well as a few others invested in this dinar.

The one thing that continues to bug me....and I'm not trying to start some conspiracy theory here--just using my brain and trying to flesh out what's really going on behind the scenes and not brainlessly following along like sheep....

I wonder what these gurus TRUE motives are for spreading lies and misinformation for SO MANY YEARS? I mean...c'mon, the game HAS to get really old if there's nothing in it for them right? So, besides the power trip they get and the feeding of their egos from all the praise they receive from their 'followers'.....what else motivates them day in/day out to keep this up? The only logical thing I can think of is they're getting paid (and paid extremely well) to put this mis-information out every day so they and others paying them can keep making profit. What else can it be? They KNOW their sources are no good nor is their info and yet....the keep shoving it down people's throats who are willing to eat it. Something's up.

Now, I will concede that there may be a few who are genuine (though it's getting harder to know who they are) and yes I agree there's a lot of misinformation intentionally put out for security reasons--that makes sense--but when people keep doing this intentionally day after day they're getting something more out of it than an ego boost.

That is why people need to be held accountable and that's an ugly word for most everyone these days. No one wants to be held accountable but when there is none--you get chaos in many forms.

My final thought is if you sincerely follow God, then you know God and His nature never changes. Back in the O.T. times when a prophet's prophesy didn't come true do you remember what happened to them? They were put to death.
I'm not suggesting we do that with the gurus but it's the principle that I'm getting at here. If God viewed those who were false and lied to the people and misled them--He viewed it so strongly that they were put to death....then the point is we MUST call out those who are doing the same things and deceiving people and stop them from continuing what they're doing.

Nah. That won't work. Wouldn't be ANY dinar sites left to have all of this fun on. Laughing

by jahlives Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:44 am

But, isn't it true that you get what you pay for? The information on this site is free without any guarantees or refunds. If people choose to continuously visit the site and hang on every word, when it is clear that nobody knows the date, rate, or the real behind the scenes deal of this dinari journey, why expend your energy? The dynamic that you speak of is so similar to what occurs in churches - the people worship the Pastor and hang on his/her every word, irregardless of how he/she lives. I learned a long time ago to pick my battles and as a leader in several churches, I quickly learned that this dynamic was one battle I would lose. Remember in the book of Judges, the Israelites begged for a King, despite the fact that the King of Kings had proven himself to them time and time again? There will always be some who will worship the messenger instead of the Source of the message. Peace. WE ARE ONE!

by readysetrv Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:12 pm

Climber, you are right on. It is one of two things that drive these guys to bring false intel day in and day out. It could be that they just like the attention and having their name in lights, or I believe it's more heavily weighted on the financial side.

I was foolish enough to listen and follow PTR for a while. I remember they would have up to 2 to 3 cc's a week, saying it was going to RV in the next 24 hours. This went on for months and months. They said they had the best intel in the business, and tony once said that their source was so high up that if it went any higher obama would pick up the phone.. That's when I stopped listening. I saw where someone commented on this topic that it's Iraq that has changed it' mind, and that's why the intel never pans out. WRONG! Sure Iraq may and I mean may have changed it's path a handful of times, but not 200 or 300 or 400 times. Just not going to happen. I would have loved for okie to have been right over the last 2 years, but the fact of the matter is that in those 2 years, he has been wrong over "400" times!! I mean for sure 100% confirmed , double and triple confirmed RV's, and yet nothing.

You know tony and dan have always said that they never got paid on the dinar that was bought off their site. I also used to listen to Fank and Delta, and many months ago, Frank said openly and proudly that he got a good commission from the Ali and Ty, when someone clicked on their site from his site and ordered dinar.

Do people really think that dan and tony didn't get paid also. If so, I have acres of tropical rainforest in the middle of Arizona that I will sell them at a great price!! All you need to do is look at the bio's of those two to see where they come from and their character. My father once told me, "a leopard doesn't change it's spots". The funny thing is, is that I will listen to a recorded call from PTR from time to time, and tony is saying "verbatum" what he was saying over a year ago. It's crazy. They are making money hand over fist with their paid site, and hey that's how it goes, can't fault them for making money, with people that aren't smart enough to figure out that they have no clue what they are taliking about. But you can just sit back and shake your head in shame at what they are doing to people with the crap they bring. "and that's putting it mildly."lol

I am only using them as an example, as you can plug almost everyone of them into this scenario in one way or the other.

It is just amazing at how many people will still read what they say after years of being dead wrong and get all pumped up,and then wonder why they are frustrated day after day when it doesn't happen.

Even the MTT call has gotten way out of hand. You have mods that just can't wait to read certain gurus posts, and when someone debates them or questions them, they actually argue on the side of the gurus, and end up always being wrong as well. The problem with MTT, is that they have a lot of people that call in that don't know any better, and believe in what the mods bring, so in my opinion they are just as guilty as the gurus that bring the false information. They just don't care about the masses, and the psychological roller coaster it sends those people that can't think for themselves on each and every day. It's really a shame.

Anyway, NO BETTER weekend to see any RV than this one!!!!

GO RVVVVVVVVVVV!

by Gmansaid Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:19 pm

Bear5642, I sure hope you are on target with this one.

by readysetrv Sat Oct 29, 2011 2:37 pm

Gmansaid, after everything that I have stated, I would love nothing more than to have your above thought hit pay dirt!!

GO RVVVVVVVVVVVVV!

by climber77 Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:04 pm

readysetrv wrote:Climber, you are right on. It is one of two things that drive these guys to bring false intel day in and day out. It could be that they just like the attention and having their name in lights, or I believe it's more heavily weighted on the financial side.

I was foolish enough to listen and follow PTR for a while. I remember they would have up to 2 to 3 cc's a week, saying it was going to RV in the next 24 hours. This went on for months and months. They said they had the best intel in the business, and tony once said that their source was so high up that if it went any higher obama would pick up the phone.. That's when I stopped listening. I saw where someone commented on this topic that it's Iraq that has changed it' mind, and that's why the intel never pans out. WRONG! Sure Iraq may and I mean may have changed it's path a handful of times, but not 200 or 300 or 400 times. Just not going to happen. I would have loved for okie to have been right over the last 2 years, but the fact of the matter is that in those 2 years, he has been wrong over "400" times!! I mean for sure 100% confirmed , double and triple confirmed RV's, and yet nothing.

You know tony and dan have always said that they never got paid on the dinar that was bought off their site. I also used to listen to Fank and Delta, and many months ago, Frank said openly and proudly that he got a good commission from the Ali and Ty, when someone clicked on their site from his site and ordered dinar.

Do people really think that dan and tony didn't get paid also. If so, I have acres of tropical rainforest in the middle of Arizona that I will sell them at a great price!! All you need to do is look at the bio's of those two to see where they come from and their character. My father once told me, "a leopard doesn't change it's spots". The funny thing is, is that I will listen to a recorded call from PTR from time to time, and tony is saying "verbatum" what he was saying over a year ago. It's crazy. They are making money hand over fist with their paid site, and hey that's how it goes, can't fault them for making money, with people that aren't smart enough to figure out that they have no clue what they are taliking about. But you can just sit back and shake your head in shame at what they are doing to people with the crap they bring. "and that's putting it mildly."lol

I am only using them as an example, as you can plug almost everyone of them into this scenario in one way or the other.

It is just amazing at how many people will still read what they say after years of being dead wrong and get all pumped up,and then wonder why they are frustrated day after day when it doesn't happen.

Even the MTT call has gotten way out of hand. You have mods that just can't wait to read certain gurus posts, and when someone debates them or questions them, they actually argue on the side of the gurus, and end up always being wrong as well. The problem with MTT, is that they have a lot of people that call in that don't know any better, and believe in what the mods bring, so in my opinion they are just as guilty as the gurus that bring the false information. They just don't care about the masses, and the psychological roller coaster it sends those people that can't think for themselves on each and every day. It's really a shame.

Anyway, NO BETTER weekend to see any RV than this one!!!!

Dude! That was an awesome post! You my friend are one of the few who have a clear mind and aren't just
another sheep being drug off to slaughter. I couldn't have put it better myself.

Now, if only we could save a few others and spare them some grief and depression.....
GO RVVVVVVVVVVV!

by climber77 Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:05 pm

Dude! That was an awesome post! You my friend are one of the few who have a clear mind and aren't just
another sheep being drug off to slaughter. I couldn't have put it better myself.

Now, if only we could save a few others and spare them some grief and depression.....

by war eagle Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:05 pm

Here's to all on this post that DO NOT LIKE WHAT THEY HEAR; YOU HAVE A MOUSE,CLICK IT AND BE GONE !!!!!!

by steves77 Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:10 pm

Climber and readset - don't come to this site and follow anyone...go find your own information. These guys have not set themselves up for anything but abuse from people like you guys who just want to complain when things don't happen the way we would like. Nobody has ever said you need to believe anything posted here, so why do you concern yourself? These people spending their own time researching information are just reporting what they hear. Conclusions drawn from that are mere speculation, and THEY SAY SO. You choose what you want to believe. We all want this to happen soon...like today. Just because it doesn't, why do you get bent out of shape because someone else has an opinion, unless you hang on to every word like it's gospel? We are always looking for someone to blame when things don't go our way.

As far as making money, I hope they do (but they don't). Web hosting is an expense, time is an expense, putting up with complainers who have no skin in the game is an expense, and so forth.
So, if you can't contribute except for complaining when it doesn't happen the way we want, then why bother even showing up? You go get some contacts, come back with some information, and we'll listen to you, too.

by readysetrv Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:38 pm

LOl Steve you got this one wrong. First of all I don't get bent out of shape at what any of them say. I for one am smart enough to know and understand that none of them have a clue of when this is going to happen.

So you say they set themselves up to take abuse from people like us???? Well, I don't see it as abuse but rather calling it like it is. When people come out a make statements to the masses to which they have projected themselves as so-called gurus then they themselves open it up to question their intel/motives, since it is ALWAYS wrong.

Statements like this. " I know someone personally that cashed out in in Cairo, or other countries.? Now why say that when it obviously did not happen??? It is to get people hyped up and buying dinar. And if for one second you don't think that this site and the other sites don't make a TON of money off the people that buy it by clickiing on the dinar sites off this site you are sadly mistaken. Now I can't get upset from that at all. That is business. But make no mistake about it, these sites are rakeing it in from people that get hyped up and purchase off the sites. Again, that is business. It's just the way they go about getting the people hyped that I don't agree with, and I can't believe you don't see it that way.

Now let's move on to you statement you made about them saying its all specualtion. Now I have to admit I have seen them use this word finally over the last month, but not very often.

It moves away from speculation and into fact, when they statements are, "100% for sure, we have confirmed from multiple sources, we have boots on the ground that know small denoms are out, We KNOW that kuwait RV'd, this is a done deal, nuff said, rate pinging around the banks like a lottery, etc. I could go on and on and on and on, wth statments that are opposite of speculation. So that arguement can be thrown out. Only recently has that word been used, and the only reason it has is becuase they have been WRONG for SOOOOOOO long.

AS far as your statement about finding someone to blame....??? I am not blaming anyone for the RV. I know exactly what we are waiting on for it to RV. THE STRATEGIC COUNCIL. Until then we wait.

I find it funny when someone says they put so much time and effort gathering info. REALLY??? How much time does it take to gather intel that is wrong 100% of the time? Never thought of it like that, did you?

I did bring some intel, if you read my first comment. My uncle who is with Wells Fargo, said all the bank screen talk with teaser and test rates is all a bunch of "____" well you know.

Even if I didn't hear from my uncle, I would rather not bring intel and never be wrong than bring intel every day and be wrong every day. How about you amigo?

GO RVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV!

by steves77 Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:43 pm

Why don't you just go somewhere else if you don't like it?????
Do us all a favor.
Nobody is keeping you here.
Like I said - if you go get information or have intel, we'll listen to you, too.
If not, we don't need your "calling it like it is"...another word for complaining.
Got a better idea - go get a website, pay the hosting fee, and invite all the people who want to complain and have a "Dinar Guru Complainer's Site".
You should get a lot of traffic and make each other feel good.

by readysetrv Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:48 pm

LOL, ok steve, you just stay in the flock. Don't ever pick your head up to see things for yourself. Funny thing is. You can't debate a thing I said, as it is the truth, and the sometimes the truth hurts.

Anyway, let's get that RV this weekend. 'remember Steve. The only thing you are looking for is to see the Strategic Council, and then we will have our RV!! Just trying to keep you off that roller coaster you like so much.

by Siaya Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:09 pm

ReadySetRV and Climber, I commend you for your insights. I did not read ANY bashing on your parts or any condemning other characters, other than stating facts. Not many today want to hear such words spoken, yet no one can debate, because nothing you all shared was wrong. I have been with this seven years. I have read all, heard all, seen all, and yet STILL, this cycle never ends. The only thing that changes are the YEARS. As stated, HOW can someone continually state over and over and over again FACTS, when nothing is true? Nice to read common sense for a change. I pray WE all see this blessing come, absolutely. Yet the ONE thing NO ONE has ever answered to a question I have asked a gazillion times is. IF THIS RV is done, CLOSE, here, SOON, and CBI is pulling OFF the streets three zero bills, WHY ARE DINAR DEALERS STILL coming in new a dime a dozen and getting BILLIONS and BILLIONS to sell each month? Something surely is NOT right anymore with this issue.

by steves77 Sat Oct 29, 2011 4:34 pm

Dude - I don't believe anything these guys say because they DON"T KNOW. So I don't need to pick my head up from anything.
I'm not in anyone's flock. I just don't feel the need to complain about the info when it doesn't come true because I don't believe it in the first place.
One of these days they will ALL be right because the RV happened. And we'll all be happy. I for on DO appreciate their efforts to bring whatever it is they think they know because I want to hear it. I just have 3-4 salt shakers with me and it doesn't upset me when it's wrong. And it's not "insight". If you really hang on to what they say and plan your emotions and day around it, then you are foolish. Not that you are.
again, NOBODY is keeping anyone here if you get disappointed about the info. The only reason you should be even paying attention is because you WANT to be here. If that's the case, then stop complaining about the info when it's wrong...it's almost always wrong.

by Gmansaid Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:14 pm

climber77 wrote:Dude! That was an awesome post! You my friend are one of the few who have a clear mind and aren't just
another sheep being drug off to slaughter. I couldn't have put it better myself.

Now, if only we could save a few others and spare them some grief and depression.....

Let's see, people who buy dinar are being drug(sic) off to the slaughter, right? So everyone who buys dinar is a sheep being DRAGGED off to the slaughter. Why are you here, to protect the masses? If you expect the dinar to R/V then how could the dinar holders be lead to a slaughter? Which is it? Can't have both!

Have you had occasion to check your methodology? Your post is diametrically opposed at it's core. You are a real beacon of hope for others. If you hold even one dinar then you are the very definition af a hypocrite.

Websters definition suits you best;
2: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings.

The rest of you who jump on the negative band wagon never do anything but complain and such is your nature. The above post said it best, "A leopard cannot change it's spots."

Want to save others from the grief and depression? Tell them to sell their dinar Mr. Champion of the people.

We shaould have a negative section for all of you genius whiner types, but it would crash the server from the overwhelming response.

There are plenty of people who do their due diligence with this investment and they understand, most of the rest of you could take a lesson.

by Gmansaid Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:31 pm

climber77 wrote:Excuse me....I've been on here a LOT longer than that. Check your facts before speaking

Check your facts before speaking!! Hey Forrest, your stats are printed on your left side just under you avatar. You need to check your facts, climber77, but it wouldn't help, you have a perception problem and the truth just backhanded you and your negativity.

by Gmansaid Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:37 pm

Siaya wrote:ReadySetRV and Climber, I commend you for your insights. I did not read ANY bashing on your parts or any condemning other characters, other than stating facts. Not many today want to hear such words spoken, yet no one can debate, because nothing you all shared was wrong. I have been with this seven years. I have read all, heard all, seen all, and yet STILL, this cycle never ends. The only thing that changes are the YEARS. As stated, HOW can someone continually state over and over and over again FACTS, when nothing is true? Nice to read common sense for a change. I pray WE all see this blessing come, absolutely. Yet the ONE thing NO ONE has ever answered to a question I have asked a gazillion times is. IF THIS RV is done, CLOSE, here, SOON, and CBI is pulling OFF the streets three zero bills, WHY ARE DINAR DEALERS STILL coming in new a dime a dozen and getting BILLIONS and BILLIONS to sell each month? Something surely is NOT right anymore with this issue.

With your negativity the only thing you can do for yourself at this point to avoid the appearance of double mindedness is to sell it all and get out. You will then have a whole lot of extra time on your hands that was previously occupied by complaining. How much do you have and how much do you want for it? PM me please, I will do you a favor and buy it from you.

by readysetrv Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:38 pm

Gmansaid, you are taking this WAY out of context. I see no one saying to sell you dinar and this is not going to happen. On the contrary, I know this is going to hapen. My uncle plays golf with GW at least 3 times a year, and there is no doubt that it is going to happen. My uncle is the person that got our entire family in the investment. I wouldn't sell any of it back, and I will continue to buy more each week..

The facts that we are stating is that these "so-called" gurus, have been pumping/hyping whatever it is that you want to call it for years. Now some of them have not been around that long, but they bring the same old broken record that the ones that have been around that long bring.

The fact of the matter is, is these "gurus" have brought so much false information as fact and it has never panned out. Even when they have been adament that there is no way they could be wrong. Over half the time it would have been more than easy to verify before they brought it. The problem there in lies with the people that truly believe that these people know what they are saying and get super hyped up, and then left to fall to the bottom when it nothing happens, time and time and time and time again.

Here is the other problem. Now I know you will say that we are all adults and we make our own decisions, but as you well know, over 90% of adults are looking for someone to follow and usually don't think for themselves. Especially in a monetary situation like this, that "will" change our lives. When these gurus come out over the last 2 years with their "100% for sure, no doubt, the rate has launched in Irag, party in the sandbox, bank screens have turned amber and we only have 72 hours to go, I know someone personally thats cashed out, Kuwait has for sure RV'd, THEN YOU KNOW GOOD AND WELL THAT HAS CAUSED THOSE PEOPLE TO BUY RESERVES THAT THEY COULDN'T AFFORD. "MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN RESERVES, THAT THE SITES HAVE PROFITED OFF". NO DOUBT. And these guys have probably profited in other ways I'm sure. Again, yes they are adults, but they are hanging on every single word that comes from the gurus, as people are severe dire straits waiting for this to happen.

The fact is we are not saying sell your dinar, nor would any of us, I believe. We are just stating the truth, and that is these gurus are overly wreckless when so many people follow them. If they truly care about the masses they would SLOW it WAY down, and truly verify the intel. But then again if they did that then we may never here from them! That's the truth.

This will happen, and I for one believe it is very close, but it won't happen until we see the Strategic Council. Nothing else matters until that happens..

Now thats what the focus of these gurus should be on, instead of picking a new flavor, wild scenario of the week.

Now I know your a mod, here and you have to stick up for the gurus on here, but right is right and wrong is wrong. Just saying/

GO RVVVVVVVV!

by paidinfull Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:55 pm

Gmansaid wrote:
Siaya wrote:ReadySetRV and Climber, I commend you for your insights. I did not read ANY bashing on your parts or any condemning other characters, other than stating facts. Not many today want to hear such words spoken, yet no one can debate, because nothing you all shared was wrong. I have been with this seven years. I have read all, heard all, seen all, and yet STILL, this cycle never ends. The only thing that changes are the YEARS. As stated, HOW can someone continually state over and over and over again FACTS, when nothing is true? Nice to read common sense for a change. I pray WE all see this blessing come, absolutely. Yet the ONE thing NO ONE has ever answered to a question I have asked a gazillion times is. IF THIS RV is done, CLOSE, here, SOON, and CBI is pulling OFF the streets three zero bills, WHY ARE DINAR DEALERS STILL coming in new a dime a dozen and getting BILLIONS and BILLIONS to sell each month? Something surely is NOT right anymore with this issue.

With your negativity the only thing you can do for yourself at this point to avoid the appearance of double mindedness is to sell it all and get out. You will then have a whole lot of extra time on your hands that was previously occupied by complaining. How much do you have and how much do you want for it? PM me please, I will do you a favor and buy it from you.

Hey wait a second.What about us?We might like to get in on that deal too! Razz

by Gmansaid Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:59 pm

readysetrv wrote:Gmansaid, you are taking this WAY out of context. I see no one saying to sell you dinar and this is not going to happen. On the contrary, I know this is going to hapen. My uncle plays golf with GW at least 3 times a year, and there is no doubt that it is going to happen. My uncle is the person that got our entire family in the investment. I wouldn't sell any of it back, and I will continue to buy more each week..

The facts that we are stating is that these "so-called" gurus, have been pumping/hyping whatever it is that you want to call it for years. Now some of them have not been around that long, but they bring the same old broken record that the ones that have been around that long bring.

The fact of the matter is, is these "gurus" have brought so much false information as fact and it has never panned out. Even when they have been adament that there is no way they could be wrong. Over half the time it would have been more than easy to verify before they brought it. The problem there in lies with the people that truly believe that these people know what they are saying and get super hyped up, and then left to fall to the bottom when it nothing happens, time and time and time and time again.

Here is the other problem. Now I know you will say that we are all adults and we make our own decisions, but as you well know, over 90% of adults are looking for someone to follow and usually don't think for themselves. Especially in a monetary situation like this, that "will" change our lives. When these gurus come out over the last 2 years with their "100% for sure, no doubt, the rate has launched in Irag, party in the sandbox, bank screens have turned amber and we only have 72 hours to go, I know someone personally thats cashed out, Kuwait has for sure RV'd, THEN YOU KNOW GOOD AND WELL THAT HAS CAUSED THOSE PEOPLE TO BUY RESERVES THAT THEY COULDN'T AFFORD. "MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN RESERVES, THAT THE SITES HAVE PROFITED OFF". NO DOUBT. And these guys have probably profited in other ways I'm sure. Again, yes they are adults, but they are hanging on every single word that comes from the gurus, as people are severe dire straits waiting for this to happen.

The fact is we are not saying sell your dinar, nor would any of us, I believe. We are just stating the truth, and that is these gurus are overly wreckless when so many people follow them. If they truly care about the masses they would SLOW it WAY down, and truly verify the intel. But then again if they did that then we may never here from them! That's the truth.

This will happen, and I for one believe it is very close, but it won't happen until we see the Strategic Council. Nothing else matters until that happens..

Now thats what the focus of these gurus should be on, instead of picking a new flavor, wild scenario of the week.

Now I know your a mod, here and you have to stick up for the gurus on here, but right is right and wrong is wrong. Just saying/

GO RVVVVVVVV!

Let me clarify my point. If the gurus are causing more people to buy dinar and you believe it will RV (as I do) then how is it that you want to save people from being depressed and let down if what the gurus are doing is actually helping them. Maybe not according to our percieved timeline? Do you see what I am saying?

On one hand you want to chastise the gurus but the reality is that the gurus will be thanked profusely for getting people into this investment in the first place. Bash them all you want now but you will be thankful for them later (post R/V).

I am trying to help establish a little continuity. We are all in the same boat. The real problem is people who come in here half cocked and stir up the least educated on the dinar with negativity. Not cool.

What is the point of that, venting a little anger. Anger is the enemy of the structure, Phil Jackson is right. Vent if you must but you will drag others down and it might make you feel better but it will be at the expense of others.

by ECOE Sat Oct 29, 2011 7:09 pm

paidinfull wrote:
Gmansaid wrote:How much do you have and how much do you want for it? PM me please, I will do you a favor and buy it from you.
Hey wait a second.What about us?We might like to get in on that deal too!

ABSOLUTELY! Dang it!

I'll pay $900 per million right now, beating my Bank at their spread-buy-rate of $655 per million on the IQD, and Dinar Banker at $850 per million ...

I'll beat them both Right NOW!

PLEASE!
BRING ON THE FIRE SALE!
WOO HOO!

Thanx for all you do here Gman, too... you have most certainly brought both fun, and REALITY to the threads here!

Bravo fellow Texan!

Prosperous regards!

by readysetrv Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:19 pm

Gman, do honestly see your point. That is one way to look at if you so choose. Being negative was not my intention although it may seem that way by saying the facts/truth.

I you want to put it in the context of the gurus spreading complete false information to gain attention or drive sells of dinar through their sites, which you know is a cash cow. "which as I pointed out ealier is just business" then you can spin it as a good thing. But I seriously doubt the gurus are sitting around saying, "let's come up with a new doozie this week to get people to buy more dinar for the peoples benift.

Look, whether you want to admit it or not, there have been 100's of posts by these guys and girls that have been so completely full of it, that it just is not a good thing. Really, go back over the past 2 years and look at the crazy, outlandish predictions or confrimations that have been posted, that couldn't have possibly been true at the time, and not even now. And they were obviously false claims. Not just, "hey this might happen or may have happened", but no way in the world could have happened. No matter how you cut it, that just isn't right in any book, with morals and integrity.

It has been proven over and over again, that the intel they have shared has been "lies" from their contacts. I really don't like that word, but there just is no other way to frame it.

I don't think it is right to sit there and say well, if it causes more people to buy dinar, because we know it's going to RV then the gurus will be thanked later. A lie is never good. I AM NOT SAYING THAT THE GURUS LIED INTENTIONALLY, BUT IT IS MORE THE OBVIOUS THAT THE 100'S OF POSTS OVER THE YEARS COULDN'T HAVE BEEN ANYTHING ELSE THAN THAT. OBVIOUSLY IT CAME FROM THEIR SOURCES..

Now, just in my small humble opinion, these so-called gurus have enough followers that instead of claiming so many RV's in the past, and so many outlandish claims, they should have just continued on the path of, "we know this is getting closer, this is a great investment, there is zero doubt we are all going to receive a GREAT BLESSING in the near future. Our sources are saying it looks good". Instead it's been the complete opposite, and always been wrong. The amount of reserves bought by people over the years after they have posted their false intel, has been enormous, and soooo many 1000's of people have lost money they couldn't afford to spend. When if the gurus would have been less wreckless these people would have just bought dinar as they could afford it. You know exactly what I mean. When these guys come on every other day over the years with their "just got confirmation from our triple secret agent in the IMF, etc., that the rate was released and we will be cashing in by next Monday, or the rate is pinging through the system and will match up in the next 46 hours". That hurts a lot of people, and the cycle contunues today, and the intel contunues to be proven wrong.

Hey, but you know what, it's just my opinion, whether wrong or right. No matter how many people are being led up the psychological roller coaster and free falling every other day, it will continue.

The bottom line is, people are being mislead, by people that really have no clue of what is going on. That has been proven, but they still have tons of followers that will believe every word they say, no matter how many times they have been wrong.

I really could see that if these guys came on and posted that they just talked with Shabbs, and Shabbs said that if we all stood on one foot at 5am in the morning naked, and hopped up and down, in our front yards screaming "I'm mad as heck and I want my RV", that there would actually be 1000's of people jumping up and down in the morning naked on their front lawns early in the morning....LOL It's sad but true...

Good night, and here is to a big fat RV in the next couple days, but remember you will know the RV is coming when you see the Strategic Council, and not before then, so don't believe the hype!

from: Dr. Demento's Delights Warner Bros. 1975 BS 2855 0698

from: Dr. Demento's Delights
Warner Bros. 1975 BS 2855 0698