Med chat 10-22-2011 8:30 am EST

by **ADMIN** Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:02 pm

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Leading role in "the law" calls for the Kurds to declare an independent state

22/10/2011 12:39

Leading role in "the law" calls for the Kurds to declare an independent state

Baghdad, October 22 (aka News) - A leader in the State of Law Coalition led by Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki on Saturday, that the time has come for a nationalist demand of the Kurds to declare an independent state in view of the facts the current political and the state of inconsistencies apparent between the Government of the province and the federal government .

The deputy Izzat Shabandar told Kurdistan (aka News) that "no way for the stability of the relationship between the Governments of the Kurdistan region and the federal government in Baghdad, it's high time to announce the Kurds their right in a national independent state"

He continued that "the Iraqi constitution stipulates that the partnership nationalism in Iraq is a partnership of voluntary and not compulsory any sense that the choice to stay or secede at any time and the political experience of the past showed that the marriage between the political forces in Baghdad and the Kurdistan region but it is a temporary marriage."

The decision to fly the flag of Kurdistan in the north of the border crossing Mundhiriyah Khanaqin in Diyala has taken a political dimension after the issuance of a decision of Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki serving Bonzalh immediately and keep the flag high.

Mundhiriyah crossing is located north of Khanaqin is an important route for trade between Iraq and Iran.

And calls for the Kurdistan Regional Government to inflict 12 regions disputed its authority to the most prominent of Kirkuk.

The crisis began to escalate aware of the Kurdistan region after the rejection of Khanaqin removed from government buildings at the request of the federal government justified its position on the existence of a political agreement reached after the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003, and decided to raise the flag at the border crossing last week.

A spokesman for the coalition a good supporter earlier in the day yesterday (Rn), "The demand Kurdistan flag lowered from areas where the increase since 2003 is a concern that was intended for non-application of Article 140 of the constitution."

He said well that "there are voices in the House of Representatives openly declares that Article 140 has become by virtue of Article dead and can not re-work them," adding that "it must be fly the flag of the Kurdistan region in any area of Iraq does not raise any sensitivity to any political party ".

And enter Khanaqin and areas of Saadia and Jalawla within the disputed areas, and recently sent the Kurdistan Regional Government military reinforcements to the area to protect the Kurds who are exposed to insurgent attacks, she said, .. But the advent of the Kurdish forces, raised the ire of the Government Center.

The government asserted that the Iraqi political parties and foreign powers are trying to stir up differences between Baghdad and Erbil, to prevent the understandings reached on outstanding issues.

The Mayor of Khanaqin Mohammed Mulla Hassan, has said (Rn) earlier that "the police directorate in Diyala province, and sent a formal letter of request from al-Maliki to Khanaqin spend lowered the flag of Kurdistan from all government buildings in the judiciary and to maintain the Iraqi flag, which he only," he that he "refused to execute the request."

He called Shabandar politicians Kurds, the two main parties to proceed with the achievement of the Kurdish dream of saying that "most of the problems the strategy between Baghdad and Erbil is solvable and can not reach a solution satisfactory to both parties, particularly with regard to the distribution of wealth and power and exclusive joint in addition to the issue of Kirkuk and disputed areas, so I call on Kurdish leaders to declare independent state and the national dream of the long-standing. "

He continued by saying, "so they can be suggested that the subject of the disputed areas under the tutelage of Amiyh is formed committees to discuss the international mechanism to solve the problem of disputed areas in accordance with international standards adopted in the resolution of conflicts between the two states.

The Kurdish coalition forces have threatened to reconsider Pthalvath political if it maintains a coalition of state for Acanon led by Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to the lack of political partnership, which approved the Convention on Arbil, which led the formation of the current government, is that a delegation Kurdish politician visited Baghdad and met with Maliki and announced that the agreement to resolve most outstanding issues between the Governments of the region and the Union.

The focus of the dispute between Baghdad and Erbil on oil and gas law, which regulates the management and development and investment of oil wealth as well as exclusive authorities and joint received in the Constitution of the Republic of Iraq to the 2005 addition of Article 140 of the constitution for the normalization of the situation in the disputed areas, especially in the city of Kirkuk as well as contracts and concluded by the oil licensing Arbil with some foreign oil companies, which announced its rejection of the Baghdad government and openly questioned the legality of the absence of oil and gas law and other outstanding issues.

Med says to (07:48:11):
HI WRESTLER....GUARDIAN AND KSDUNLAP ADN BB AND GOP AND......
DID ANYONE READ THAT ARTICLE ABOVE
ON KURDISTAN

Brewbaby says to (07:48:56):
trying to right now
wrestler says to (07:49:03):
not yet

Med says to (07:49:09):
IT STATES
BESIDES THE FACT THAT A LEADER IN THE STATE OF LAW
SAYS IT IS TIME FOR KURDISTAN TO BE INDEPENDENT
HERE IS A FACT I DID NOT KNOW
THAT
KURDISTAN IS VOLUNTARILY BEING PART OF IRAQ
THEY WERE NOT FORCED
ACCORDING TO WHAT IS SAID IN THAT ARTICLE
THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT REQUIRE THEM
TO BE PART OF IRAQ

GOP says to (07:50:51):
that surprised me Med when I read that

Med says to (07:51:00):
YES ME TOO
AND THE REASON WHY
IS THAT IF THEY ARE VOLUNTARY
AND WANT THEIR REVENUES FROM OIL
ALL THEY WOULD HAVE TO DO IS DECLARE THEIR INDEPENDENCE
THEN THE HCL WOULD BE IRRELEVANT
EACH COUNTRY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR OWN
BUT
I THINK THERE ARE ISSUES
ONE
I THINK THE KURDS
DO NOT OR WOULD HAVE TO USE IRAQI OIL LINES
TO EXPORT
ALSO
THE ISSUE OF KIRKUK
WHO WOULD GET IT
THIS WOULD BE PROBABLY LIKE THE FRIGGN ISREALI/PALESTINIAN
NEGOTIATIONS ON A STATE
40 YRS LATER
STILL ARGUING ABOUT IT
I THINK THAT IT POSSIBLY WOULD OPEN ANOTHER HUGE CAN OF WORMS
BUT
IF THE U.S. WANTED A PRESENCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST
THEN KURDISTAN WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE
THEY LIKE US
AND I AM TIRED OF THE BS FROM IRAQ

GOP says to (07:55:50):
The would also have Iraq on one side of them and Iran on the other...that would be ugly for them..and they would need us there to keep the wolves at bay

Med says to (07:55:50):
I SEE SADR IS MAKING ALL KINDS OF DEMANDS
HE IS WANTING LEGISLATION
AND I HAVE NO CLUE HOW
HE IS GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
THAT SAYS
IF MALIKI CANNOT GET COMPENSATION FROM THE U.S.
HE HAS TO LEAVE
NOW SADR HAS 40 MEMBERS
40
THERE ARE 325 MPS
JUST HOW DOES THIS LITTLE PR*CK ALL OF A SUDDEN GOT SO MUCH POWER
HOW
WHAT HE IS DOING IS TRYING TO UNSEAT DEMOCRACY
WITH THESE DEMANDS
WE ALL KNOW JUST CUZ SOMETHING DOESNT GO RIGHT
YOU GET TO KICK EVERYONE OUT
THIS IS THE TYPE OF CHAOS
THAT CREATES THE PROBLEMS IN 3RD WORLD COUNTRIES
THAT IS ALWAYS PLAGUING HTEM
THEM
WHAT I DO NOT UNDERSTAND

GOP says to (08:00:28):
Agreed Med. I think Sadr's power does not come from the 40 but his army or terrorists who will blow up those to don't go along with him

Med says to (08:00:45):
YOU KNOW GOP
I THINK YOU HIT IT
HE HAS NO MORE RIGHTS THAN THE CITIZEN ON THE STREET
YET ALL OF A SUDDEN HE IS LIKE THE LEADER OF THE COUNTRY
HE IS A STOOGE
FOR THE IRANIANS
HE PROVED IT

Brewbaby says to (08:02:05):
Unless he has the Iranians in his terror group backing him up

Med says to (08:02:16):
OH THAT IS VERY POSSIBLE
NOW ALSO
MALIKI SAYS
WHEN U.S. GONE
THERE IS NO REASON FOR ALQUEADA
UMMMM

Brewbaby says to (08:02:47):
That is the only way he has big enough cahoonas to talk the talk and then maybe walk the walk

Med says to (08:02:58):
NOW CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG
BUT
IF THE REASON FOR TERRORISTS AND AL QUEDA
IS US TROOPS
OK FOLLOWING ME HERE
ARE YOU

Brewbaby says to (08:03:33):
I think
thepainman says to (08:03:37):
yep
GOP says to (08:03:38):
yep

Med says to (08:03:39):
NOW
FOR ME
THE ANGER OR TERRORIST ACTIVITIES
WOULD BE THEN DIRECTED TOWARDS US FORCES
TO PUSH THEM TO LEAVE
BUT

Brewbaby says to (08:04:37):
I think they kill the innocent to show that we as US Forces are not capable of protecting them

Med says to (08:04:48):
ACTUALLY
WE HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH PROTECTING THEM

Brewbaby says to (08:05:06):
I know, that is my point

Med says to (08:05:07):
ALL US FORCES ARE RELOCATED
OUT OF THE POPULATED AREAS
AND
IT WAS IRAQI SECURITY FORCES WHO ARE NOW IN OUR PLACE
SO

Brewbaby says to (08:05:41):
we have nothing to do with protection, so thye do it because we can't protect them

Med says to (08:05:42):
FOR ME
THEN IT IS ACTUALLY A POSITIVE
FOR THE ROLE OF US FORCES TO STAY
THE TERRORISTS ARE SHOWING THAT IRAQ ITSELF

Brewbaby says to (08:06:18):
I would think so, becasue it means the Iraqis are not capable to the job

Med says to (08:06:22):
IS NOT CAPABLE
LOL
YES IT IS
WHICH IS THE POINT I WAS MAKING

Brewbaby says to (08:06:48):
didn't mean to intrude my thoughts

Med says to (08:06:55):
NO PROBLEM
I AM USED TO WOMEN INTERUPTING MY THINKING
LOL
HO HO

aattv68 says to (08:07:14):
loes a noise over there.....gotta be a grab all you can game........lol

Med says to (08:07:15):
HE HE

GrannyLin says to (08:07:24):
I would rather fight the terrorists there ranther than fight them here.
aattv68 says to (08:07:25):
lots

Med says to (08:07:37):
YES

GrannyLin says to (08:07:39):
Good morning

Med says to (08:07:46):
OK BB
GM GRANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNY LIN!!!!!

GrannyLin says to (08:08:48):
MEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Morning

neo says to (08:08:58):
GM
aattv68 says to (08:09:13):
most of the problems will be evident after we go........hope the dough is in the bag befroe then({)

Med says to (08:09:32):
WOW AATTV
YOU ACTUALLY SAID THAT
THAT IS ACTUALLY THE SMARTEST THING SAID HERE THIS MORNNG
AND IT WILL BE

aattv68 says to (08:10:23):
thw wimps willing be leaving the country in droves
Brewbaby says to (08:10:29):
so Med, before I go you still feel this will be over by the end of the year

Med says to (08:10:32):
IF WE ARE THE REASON FOR ALL THE PROBLEMS
GEE BB
DONT PUT ME ON THE SPOT
LOL

Brewbaby says to (08:10:55):
I know, I know put you on the line again
GrannyLin says to (08:10:56):
Didn't I read that the negotiations are underway for our exit from Afghanistan very soon?

Med says to (08:11:12):
I AM NOT SURE GL

Brewbaby says to (08:11:21):
I said feel, that you were right on the money, geezzzz
Brewbaby says to (08:11:27):
not
aattv68 says to (08:11:35):
who will be the big rat......and will he be a string attached puppet..........like he is now

Med says to (08:11:42):
OK HOLD ON
STOP'
LET ME ANSWER THIS
ONE THING RIGHT NOW
SADR IS REALLY CONFUSING THE ISSUES
HE IS THROWING OUT ALL KINDS OF CRAP
TO HIMSELF TOPPLING THE GOVT
AND CONSIDERING THE EMBASSY OCCUPIERS
AND THEY MUST BE RESISTED THEN
WHAT DOES RESISTED MEAN
ATTACK OUR EMBASSY
KILL THEM
WHAT
NEXT
BACK TO BB'S ?
YES I DO
I WANT TO SEE THEM GET THE 3RD READING DONE
BETWEEN THE 10TH AND 15TH
OF NOVEMBER
THEN I WANT TO SEE ACTUALLY WHAT IS IN THAT DRAFT
THERE IS ALLOT MORE THAN WE HAVE ANY CLUE ABOUT

aattv68 says to (08:14:23):
amen

Med says to (08:14:25):
NOW ONE ISSUE
AND I DID NOT WANT TO DISCUSS THIS
OVER THE YEARS
I MEAN SERIOUSLY
DISUSS IT THAT IS
AND THEY HAVE NOT EITHER
REMEMBER THIS BEFORE I GO ON HERE
THIS IS A HIGH RISK INVESTMENT
WITH POSSIBLE
HUGE RETURNS
NOW WE SEE OTHERS IN THE INVESTMENT WORLD
SCRAMBLING TO INVEST

aattv68 says to (08:16:07):
oh oh you just soured my coffee......lol

Med says to (08:16:18):
LET ME FINISH OK
HOLD YOUR WATER
NOW WE ONLY KNOW ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING INSIDE IRAQ
INTERNALLY
THAT THEY WILL HAVE TWO CURRENCIES TOGETHER
AND THEY WILL BOTH HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME RATE
HERE THE ONLY CERTAIN IS
THERE WILL NOT BE THAT
THE ONLY ISSUE
IS WE HAVE THE OTHER CURRENCY
IT WILL BE WORTH SOMETHING
IT SHOULD BE WORTH THE ONE TO ONE
WE SPECULATED ON THIS
BECAUSE NOT ONCE
HAS THE OUTSIDE DINAR
EVER BEEN DISCUSSED
SO THAT IS WHY
WE NEED TO FOLLOW IMMEDIATELY
JUST WHAT IS THEIR PLANS
WE ALL NEW ALI
SAID THEY WERE PAYING
BUT HE ALSO SKIPPED THE COUNTRY
SO FORGIVE ME
MeBUT I AM A BIT LEARY OF BELIEVING A GUY ON THE RUN
OH MORE NEWS
ONE MORE PERSON WHO MANY MAY HAVE HEARD OF
GOT HIS T*T IN THE RINGER AGAIN
HE IS THE ONE WHO BROUGHT IN WARKA
BILL BURBANK
ANYONE REMEMBER THAT NAME

guardian says to (08:22:05):
yes

Med says to (08:22:12):
WELL HE ALSO
GOT IN THE SAME TROUBLE AS ALI
SAME REASON
HE WAS RUNNING TO IRAQ
THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO SIT ON CBI BOARD
HE TOOK MONEY FROM MANY OF MY FRIENDS
FOR WARKA
THEN NEVER RETURNED THEIR CALLS
AFTER
ONE THING AND YOU ALL NEED TO GET A GRIP ON THIS
I AM NOT SAYING ANYTHING NEGATIVE
WE JUST NEED TO SEE WHERE WE ACTUALLY WILL STAND
AND IF IT IS IN THE DRAFT
CUZ WE ONLY HAVE OUR BEST GUESS

guardian says to (08:24:48):
you talked about 4 trillion the other day and they mentioned, does that figure include ours?

Med says to (08:24:50):
CUZ EVERYTHING SO FAR WE HAVE USED
FOR OUR OWN BENEFIT
HAS TO DEAL WITH INTERNAL
I GOT THAT FROM SONNY

guardian says to (08:25:29):
ok

Med says to (08:25:37):
HE GOT IT FROM AN ARTICLE IN THE FORUM
IN FACT THEN
SEVERAL OTHER MEMBERS
READ IT ALSO
THE REASON I BROUGHT THIS ALL UP
IS IN A FEW WEEKS
IT IS CRUNCH TIME
I HOPE YOU ALL UNDERSTAND TAHT
THAT
IT IS WHEN WE WILL TRULY KNOW
WHAT THE OUTCOME FOR US WILL BE

GOP says to (08:27:18):
understood

Med says to (08:27:18):
AND I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE GONNA SAY

guardian says to (08:27:21):
yes, we will know our fate then

Med says to (08:27:28):
I THOUGHT WE KNOW OR YOU SAID
NO I SAID
THAT THIS WILL BE COMING TO AN END
FOR US
ONE WAY OR ANOTHER
AND IT WILL
BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE NEVER BEEN ADDRESSED PUBLICLY
BY CBI
WE HAD WAIT TILL IT WAS ALL OVER
TO KNOW OUR FATE
I PERSONALLY BELIEVE
THAT IT IS THIS
THAT THE DINAR WILL HAVE A NEW EXCHANGE RATE
THAT THE CURRENT DENOMS HELD BY ANYONE
WILL BE EXCHANGABLE AT THAT RATE
IT IS THAT SIMPLE
IT IS #1 AND #2
IT IS FOR THOSE BELIEFS
I HAVE STAYED HERE ALL THAT TIME
IF I DIDNT THINK SO
I WOULD HAVE SAID SCREW THIS
AND TOLD YOU ALL THE SAME
BUT I THINK THE RISK AND HOW MUCH WE REALLY INVESTED
WAS WELL WORTH THE TRY

thepainman says to (08:31:23):
dealing in currency is a very high risk, enough said, we all knew this when we got into it. you have never guarenteed anything except that you have been here day in day out trying to decipher information for us and for that we should all be thankful to those that are trying to do just that. other than that, no one here bares any responsibility for how this turns out. period

Med says to (08:31:48):
TY PM

guardian says to (08:31:49):
would the IMF let them $crew us?
thepainman says to (08:31:51):
yw

Med says to (08:31:55):
UMMMM
I DONT THINK THEY ARE
AND THE IMF I DO BELIEVE
WILL NOT
REMEMBER
THE PLAN HAS TO BE APPROVED
BY THE IMF
I WILL NOT CONTEMPLATE ANYTHING HAPPENING
BUT ONE THING
THE DINAR WE HOLD
WILL BE CARRYING THE NEW EXCHANGE RATE
IF IT DID NOT
THEN HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY DEVALUING AND INCREASING ALL AT THE SAME TIME
YOU CANT
AND SHABIBI SAID
ONLY ONE RATE
BOTH CURRENCIES
OUT SAME TIME
ONE THING THOUGH
THEY WILL I BETNEED TO PUT OUT NEW DENOMS
A MUCH FASTER PACE
I THINK THE IRAQI PEOPLE
WILL BE DUMPING THE LARGEDENOMS
FASTER THAN THEY CAN COUNT EM
AND I THINK THEN THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE A LACK OF DENOMS
IN LIQUIDITY
REMEMBER
ALL THAT CONCERNS ANYONE IS PAPER
NOT WHAT IS ON M2'S OR WHATEVER
BUT WHAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY POSSESS TO SPEND
I THINK IT WILL BE DUMPED OR RETURNED AT RECORD PACE
AND THEN A SHORTAGE OF THE NEW WILL HAPPEN
JUST A THOUGHT
OK I AM GOING HUNTING

calldinar says to (08:39:04):
Thanks Med and to all you Mods and Admins who bring in the news and for decifering what some of the rest of us don't quite understand..this site has been great for staying on track and not bringing in all the BS. I for one appreciate all you do..Hopefully it all turns out positive for all us investors.
Tweety77 says to (08:39:08):
Med do I need to worry if I bought from Ali? Sorry if you answered this already its just making me crazy not knowing
glk says (08:39:18):
I can post Med's chat in a minute !

Med says to (08:39:20):
YES I HAVE TWEETY
BUT NO

GOP says to (08:39:31):
Good shooting Med! Knock em dead!!
Tweety77 says to (08:39:33):
thank you

Med says to (08:39:40):
IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ALI HAVING BAD CURRENCY
IT WAS OTHER LEGAL ISSUES
OK GANG

Med says to (08:40:11):
I WILL BBL