BILL CLARK PREDICTS ITS DONE 4/28/16

by **kenlej** Mon May 02, 2016 11:17 am

HEY BILL, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE COLORS AGAIN IT'S ORANGE

TELL US ABOUT THE SHIITES TAKING OVER PARLIAMENT I GUESS THE RV IS STILL ONLY DAYS AWAY FOOL
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ADMINBILL wrote
57m ago

I HAVE HAD COMMUNICATIONS YESTERDAY AND THIS MORNING FROM CONTACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CERTAIN GROUPS THAT HAVE BEEN PROCESSING THE GCR AND RV. THE INFORMATION THEY PROVIDE MATCHES UP AND ALSO SYNC'S WITH OTHER INFORMATION YOU MAY BE READING OR HEARING.

ADMINBILL wrote
53m ago

THE PROCESS HAS NOT STOPPED OR STALLED ACCORDING TO MY INFORMATION. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS NEVER BEEN ATTEMPTED. IT IS A PROCESS THAT IS SO MASSIVELY HUGE IN TERMS OF CURRENCY, HARD ASSETS AND BONDS THAT THE ACTUAL VALUE IS INCOMPREHENSIBLE TO US MORTALS. CONSIDER THAT EACH ASSET, EACH CURRENCY NOTE, AND EACH BOND FROM EVERY SINGLE PERSON AND COUNTRY MUST BE METICULOUSLY ACCOUNTED FOR AND PERHAPS THEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THE ENORMITY AND COMPLEXITY OF THIS PROJECT.

ADMINBILL wrote
51m ago

THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN END IN SIGHT AND THAT END IS RIGHT AROUND THE BEND. WE MUST CONTINUE TO BE PATIENT AND ALLOW THESE REMARKABLE PEOPLE COMPLETE THEIR TASKS SO THAT THE PROCESS HAS NO CHANCE TO UNRAVEL IN THE FUTURE. KEEP IN MIND THE TIME FRAMES WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN AND GO ABOUT YOUR DAY.

ADMINBILL wrote
48m ago

I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT PRIVATE GROUPS WILL BE PROCESS WITH THE PUBLIC. YOU MAY BE NOTIFIED DIFFERENTLY.

Morgan Savagewrote
47m ago

ADMINBILL is the 30th the time frame you are speaking of?

ADMINBILL wrote
45m ago

MS - YES

ADMINBILL wrote
40m ago

ALL THE NEWS CONTINUES TO BE GOOD BUT PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THIS IS A MAN MADE EVENT, NOT THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. IT IS NOT WRITTEN IN STONE AND CAN BE CHANGED AS NEEDED.

by **GypZ** Mon May 02, 2016 11:38 am

what's with the crow picture ???? Wow how cool is that >>LOL......and to admit your an agent of chaos?? PLEASE HOW OLD IS THE PERSON BEHIND THE FALSE FACE ????
NOW IF YOU WISH TO BE LISTENED TOO.... SERIOUSLY GET RID OF THE KINDERGARTN MENTALITY PLEASE!WE DON'T NEED IT!!

by **Purpleskyz** Mon May 02, 2016 11:57 am

I think that is the Riddler, Heath Ledger before he was taken out...

For me... it sends a firm message and that is what these lying basturds need to be reminded of.

by **kenlej** Mon May 02, 2016 1:30 pm

GypZ wrote:what's with the crow picture ???? Wow how cool is that >>LOL......and to admit your an agent of chaos?? PLEASE HOW OLD IS THE PERSON BEHIND THE FALSE FACE ????
NOW IF YOU WISH TO BE LISTENED TOO.... SERIOUSLY GET RID OF THE KINDERGARTN MENTALITY PLEASE!WE DON'T NEED IT!!

I'M 62 FOOL!!! DON'T BE ANGRY AT ME IDIOT FOR YOUR FAIRY TALE SCAM NOT COMING TRUE
RVscam - BILL CLARK PREDICTS ITS DONE 4/28/16 3508649203

I'VE HAD OVER A 1000 PEOPLE AWAKEN FROM THIS SCAM IN THE LAST 3 YEARS OF ME FIGHTING THE GURUS AND TRYING TO GET TWO BRAIN CELLS TO FIRE AT THE SAME TIME WITH U DINARIANS
RVscam - BILL CLARK PREDICTS ITS DONE 4/28/16 3508649203

I DIDN'T START THE SCAM BUT I'LL BE HERE UNTIL THE END OF IT MORON
RVscam - BILL CLARK PREDICTS ITS DONE 4/28/16 3508649203

by **aksafeone** Mon May 02, 2016 7:59 pm

1) There is no proof that there even is any "groups processing the RV or any GCR. In fact the word process gives us a pain in that if there really was a process it would have been completed years ago. The only process of note to date is the one where money comes from our pocket to yours with no return and certainly no hope at this point of any in the future. The gurus and dealers are the recipients and the rest are the suckers. NO? Prove it beyond any shadow of a doubt.

2) Well Bill, I see you told a lie right there i.e.: "THE PROCESS HAS NOT STOPPED OR STALLED ACCORDING TO MY INFORMATION. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS NEVER BEEN ATTEMPTED. IT IS A PROCESS THAT IS SO MASSIVELY HUGE....... ." The process/project has never been attempted? Bull Malarky - currencies have been revalued and countries have changed their currencies for centuries. The cave man probably changed from sticks to rocks to who knows what. And as far as massively huge is concerned let us look at some the worlds largest corporations. Nope that don't float Bill. You need to go to the dunce chair on this one. Oh and banks account for huge amounts of money, stocks, bonds, etc. on a daily basis. Shoot Scrooge McDuck accounted for everything in his money bin - so his nephews could not get away with a thing. (Whack#@*#@ there now behave Bill.)

3) Groups? Let me explain something to you Bill. When a currency revalues it does so all at once and there is no elitism involved nor is there any discrimination - it is what it is and that's all. All exchangers are treated equal on a come first basis. The group theory is as phony as the process etc.

4) By the 30th being the time frame it would look as if that has expired and we are nowhere. Bill, the date at the top is April - don't look now but it is May! You lose again.

5) This a man made event? Which is that Bill? The RV? The reporting? The progress? The Iraqi government and central bank? Boy are you confusing. Me thinks you need to go somewhere far away and find reality. Hey there Luke Skywalker -- ya you -- get this clown under control will ya?

ONCE AGAIN WE SEE THAT ADMIN BILL IS SPREADING HIS USUAL HOPIUM. Boring, disgraceful. Sickening. Ah, hey FBI, get these clowns under arrest soon or they will exceed the politicians in misinformation and palaver. Thank you.

by **Purpleskyz** Mon May 02, 2016 8:26 pm

excellent post aksafeone

:tup:

by **kenmor** Mon May 02, 2016 8:47 pm

Great post askafeone! Some value of words vs just bashing without anything to back it up!

by **Kevind53** Mon May 02, 2016 10:09 pm

He is right about one thing. This process has never stopped. For a process to stop it would have had to start first. Since that never happened, he is technically correct in saying it never stopped. The lie is the implication that it ever existed, let alone started.

by **kenlej** Mon May 02, 2016 11:07 pm

kenmor wrote:Great post askafeone! Some value of words vs just bashing without anything to back it up!

DO YOU WANT ME TO BACK UP MY BASHING WELL HERE YOU GO

DID STERLINGS INDICTMENT PROVE THE RV IS A SCAM Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:14 am

Sterling Currency Group’s leaders lived the high-life: mansions in Buckhead and Brookhaven, luxury cars, property along the Florida panhandle. One even flies a private stunt plane, records state. They trumpeted their good works, too. Tyson Rhame, an Air Force Academy graduate who lives in Brookhaven, ran a family foundation that got notice for its donations to DeKalb County schools. News accounts said his partners in Sterling, Buckhead’s James and Carol Laurette Shaw, donated 100 acres for Savannah College of Art and Design’s equestrian center. The pavilion is named in their honor. But the business that helped bankroll their lifestyle and largess — dealing in Iraqi currency — is a scam, according to a federal complaint seeking to seize homes, cars and aircraft. And, court documents say, the philanthropists fretted about getting caught. “We are risking serious jail time as promoters of a Ponzi scheme…” James Shaw wrote Rhame in a 2010 email, according to the complaint filed in U.S. District Court in Atlanta. In the same email, Shaw said his wife had been “very nervous” and “crying” because “she knows we are running an illegal operation.” Does this mean that they knew that what they were doing was illegal? I would think so!! Sterling, also known as Dinar Banker, operated in the obscure and lightly-regulated world of foreign currency trading, where investors take bets on whether the value of a country’s money will rise or fall. On its website, Sterling bills itself as “Your #1 Source for Buying & Selling Iraqi Dinar.” “We believe in serving our customers with Integrity & Transparency,” it says. The federal complaint says that Sterling used a well-known scheme. After the Iraq War began in 2003, various promoters began circulating online rumors that the U.S. Department of the Treasury planned to give the country’s currency a massive boost. When the currency was revalued, holders of dinar would get rich cashing out, the scheme goes. Sterling was wildly successful selling hard currency, according to investigators. Since 2004, the company claimed $600 million in gross sales, the complaint says. In 2011 alone, their gross receipts totaled more than $245 million, according to the court filing Bundles of dinars would arrive at Atlanta’s Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport from the Middle East, then were hauled in trucks to an area office. Employees sold them them via phone and online across the U.S. and Canada. Investors could snap them up on layaway, or cash on delivery. Dinar promoters ran chat rooms and hosted conference calls to make sure buyers were eager. One pitchmen, identified only as “TerryK” in the complaint, was secretly on Sterling’s payroll to the tune of $150,000, the complaint states. Dinar trading was poised to go mainstream, the company suggested on its website in 2010, according to the federal complaint. Clients would be able to exchange their Iraqi currency at kiosks and “remote satellite offices” at major airports, including Atlanta, Chicago-O’Hare and New York-JFK. And Sterling assured investors it would be a trusted supplier in an industry rife with scams. On its website, it states it is registered as a Money Service Business with the Treasury Department, has an A rating with the Better Business Bureau and “supplies a Certificate of Authenticity with every currency order that guarantees in writing that all of our currency is authentic. Our currency is legally obtained, legally transported, legally declared, and from non-criminal origin.” “We are proud of our ‘Sterling’ reputation and the trust our customers put in us!” the website said. The predicted currency reset never happened. Currently, it takes 1,200 dinar to equal the value of $1. These promotions have become such a concern to the FBI that it set up a webpage to field tips from possible victims. On the day of the FBI raid, “TerryK” told investigators he made up claims that he had sources who knew the dinar was about to rise, court documents say. A Sterling executive told the FBI that such rumors were a “mythology.” The government alleges that Sterling laundered revenues through a complex network of companies and accounts. The complaint names numerous companies and trusts said to be linked. Alex Rue, a securities attorney and former lawyer with the Securities and Exchange Commission, said investors should be wary of claims of opportunities that are too good to be true. “There is always an element of, ‘Why am I so lucky?’” Rue said. This was written when they were raided June 10,2015. They were criminally indicted Feb 23 2016. A federal grand jury has indicted three executive officers of an Atlanta currency exchange firm that at one time was one of the nation's largest sellers and exchangers of Iraqi currency, the U.S. attorney in Atlanta announced Monday. Tyson Rhame, 51, and James Shaw, 53—co-owners of the Sterling Currency Group—and company COO Frank Bell, 54, were indicted on multiple charges of conspiracy, mail fraud and wire fraud. Rhame and Shaw were also charged with multiple counts of money-laundering. The indictment also charges Terrence Keller, a 55-year-old Internet promoter, with multiple counts of fraud. Federal prosecutors say Sterling paid Keller to illegally "pump" sales of the Iraqi dinar. A Kentucky resident also known as TerryK, Keller ran an Internet website and chat room known as "The GET Team" that he used—along with weekly conference calls with potential investors—to promote investments in the Iraqi currency, often with a Sterling representative joining, prosecutors said. Federal authorities have already seized and are seeking the forfeiture of the defendants' assets, including: millions of dollars held in dozens of financial accounts; millions in foreign currencies; three private airplanes; two Mercedes and an Audi Quatro; real estate in Brookhaven, Atlanta, Panama City Beach, Florida, and Charlotte, North Carolina; and 48 trusts, capital investment groups and limited liability companies in which the defendants had invested. Sterling Currency Group, a limited liability company, also did business as Sterling Online Processing Services LLC, and Dinar Banker Sterling sold and exchanged so-called "exotic currencies," including most predominantly the Iraqi dinar. Sterling Currency said in a news release that since federal authorities obtained search warrants and filed a civil forfeiture complaint as part of the investigation of Sterling Currency and what it labeled "the Iraqi dinar industry," Sterling has provided evidence to the U.S. attorney that it believes "demonstrated … that the central fact allegations in the civil forfeiture complaint were inaccurate, and in some instances flatly false." But, the release said, the U.S. attorney secured a criminal indictment anyway. "From Sterling's perspective, these charges are without any merit. Sterling, a lawful business which sold a lawful product, was owned and operated by law-abiding and conscientious individuals, two of whom served extensively in the United States Armed Forces," the release said. "These executives worked hard to ensure Sterling complied with all state and federal laws and regulations. This included investing enormous resources into its compliance program and maintaining extensive legal and other professional counsel to ensure it was fully compliant with all applicable laws. Sterling and the named individuals strongly deny the U.S. attorney's charges and look forward to vigorously defending themselves throughout this process and at trial." Mike Brown of Alston & Bird, Rhame's criminal defense attorney, told the Daily Report on Tuesday, "We look forward to defending Mr. Rhame and are confident that when the facts come out there will be a conclusion that he committed no crime. According to the indictment, a key component of what federal authorities say was the illegal pumping scheme was Keller, who made "materially false" statements to followers of his website that he had information verified by "high-level confidential sources" in the U.S. government, the Iraqi government, major financial institutions and other international organizations. He also told followers that he had no financial motive to promote investments in the dinar but was rather an altruist who shared his knowledge so that others might benefit. Prosecutors said Keller fueled financial speculation by predicting an imminent "revaluation" of the dinar that would lead to a quick, exponential rise in value over U.S. dollars and other stable foreign currencies. Holders of dinars would realize potentially enormous gains if a revaluation occurred. And the participation of Sterling's executives on Keller's conference calls and chat forums provided validation to Keller's followers that his claims about a revaluation of the dinar were credible, according to the indictment. Keller and his GET Team, prosecutors said, was one of the leading Internet-based proponents of speculation on a dinar revaluation. Sterling executives didn't make direct representations about the likelihood of a revaluation or offer investment advice to Keller's followers, but the indictment said that Sterling executives "assured listeners" on Keller's conference calls that Sterling was prepared and able to handle the high volume of dinar exchanges that would likely occur once the Iraqi currency was revaluated. Prosecutors said Keller had a secret financial arrangement with Rhame, Shaw, and Bell and was paid more than $160,000 to fuel speculation in currency sales, particularly the dinar. Keller's promotional activities generated millions of dollars in sales for Sterling Currency, which sold the dinar and other "exotic currencies" as Sterling Online Processing Services and Dinar Banker, prosecutors said. The indictment also contends that Rhame, Shaw and Bell never believed that Keller had the high-level sources he claimed to have and warned their own employees not to speculate. But, the indictment said, Sterling executives also knew that Keller's alleged pumping activities were essential to their company's financial success and would continue to boost their sales. The dinar has not yet been revalued. Rhame is alleged to have told colleagues that Keller and his GET Team had generated as much as 80 percent of Sterling's business and was Sterling's single largest referrer, prosecutors added. From 2010 to 2015, prosecutors said that Sterling grossed over $600 million in revenue in currency sales and generated over $180 million in distributions for the company co-owners. "Investors in the Iraqi dinar, like all investors, are entitled to make an informed choice based on honest and transparent information," U.S. Attorney John Horn in announcing the indictment. "These defendants are alleged to have defrauded investors by spreading misinformation about the investment potential of the Iraqi dinar in order to profit from sale of the currency. People ask how can they get indicted when any day there will be a Revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar? Well they can't so that proves that the RV is simply a never ending Nigerian scam .

by **kenlej** Mon May 02, 2016 11:10 pm

kenmor wrote:Great post askafeone! Some value of words vs just bashing without anything to back it up!

HEY KENMORE HERE'S MORE
It says the mid east governments and the USA government was involved spreading the Iraqi dinar through the world which makes sense when you wonder how it was able to get this big.

Saturday, 10/06/07 04:00:28 PM
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The plan? The pump? Long read.

This was translatted from and Arab site.

Report written by: Mustafa Bakri

Suddenly become the new Iraqi dinar fill hearing and vision, some traders have started to pay INCUR GROSS market Egyptian, Jordanian and the Gulf and other countries, the prevalence of Obsession Libyan many sectors especially in the

Cairo, some Upper maritime quick gains and

losses quickly followed ..
حSo now everyone preoccupied with the issue of Iraqi dinar and this was their only one.

What is the story of the Iraqi dinar exactly how the leak to Arab markets, the goal of marketing, and what gravity on the economies of Arab countries.

'Week' has case and obtained important details reveal a new episode of workshops planned new American and you details.

Beginning was an important meeting held in Baghdad headed by the American ruler of Iraq Paul Bremer and the presence of a number of senior management staff and some of the leaders of the Intelligence and a number of economists and businessmen Treasury America.
At this meeting it was agreed to print worth five trillion new Iraqi dinars (five thousand billion dinars) and pumped to the market as follows, and a half trillion of Arab markets and the remaining pumps inside Iraq.

In this meeting also agreed to print six trillion new Iraqi dinars in the coming months, to be stopping the printing of the new Iraqi dinar at 20 trillion dinars.

The information that Egypt income during the recent nearly 40 billion dinars, were also flood the market at about 100 billion Jordanian dinars, the Gulf markets, particularly the Kuwaiti market has affected the lion's share
.Where were dumped about 300 billion Iraqi dinars.

According to the information that the process of dumping Arab dinars were approved plan Court involving the CIA and the Mossad in cooperation with some traders and Arab businessmen who aim to achieve rapid profit under the supervision of the leadership of the Middle East in the American intelligence led Princeton Hanield who assumed direct supervision of the process of pumping Iraqi funds? .
The American intelligence had lifted a note to President George W. Bush proposed the allocation of a large part of the Iraqi currency pumped to the Arab markets to achieve many goals that serve American policy in Iraq and the region.

Note intelligence has confirmed that the proliferation of Iraqi currency in the Arab countries would link the Arab citizen developments economic process in Iraq, including creating an Arab popular desire in the necessity of ending the Iraqi resistance and collaboration with the United States to ensure the return of political and economic stability in Iraq until the Iraqi currency begins to rise again, bring traffickers by the enormous wealth in the Arab countries.

The memo pointed out that the American objective behind this plan is to create a personal interest in the Iraqi people and the Arab peoples motivated to support American forces in Iraq to eliminate elements of the Iraqi resistance

, Which represent a real threat to its direct interest in the Iraqi dinar hoard them thinking that he would return to the earlier era and investigate the causes enormous profits.
The plan is also in accordance with the memorandum of America to encourage Arab investors to invest part of their money in the Iraqi market, and when the CIA estimated that felt that the proliferation of Iraqi dinars in Arab markets including the Egyptian market will benefit American exclusive economic order to obtain millions of dollars in the market Arab and away from the control of America.

The American plan that hundreds of millions of dollars obtained by the Americans from behind the sale of Iraqi dinar will be reinvested again in other operations within the region serve the goals of American policy.

The plan says that the dividend sale trillion Iraqi dinars American funds will be recycled in the region for several times, and these proceeds will be used to influence the economics of some Arab countries in the direction that Washington wishes to achieve without adding any American treasury new budgets.

According to the plan, the net profits of these operations on the pump Iraqi dinars and other operations will be used in subsequent spending one source for the cultural and intellectual invasion of the Arab peoples, such as spending on TV 'free' American will begin broadcasting in the region soon, as well as Radio SEWA America, and to support projects funding called democracy and the establishment of some newspapers and media suspicious and spending on non-governmental organizations associated with the American agenda, and will not use any of these funds inside Iraq.

The information had indicated that a number of Arab businessmen had contributed to the implementation of the scheme through the acceptance of the offers to buy American Iraqi dinars, and that the American side is the one who started such contacts with many Arab businessmen especially those associated with commercial or Agencies, or other means of cooperation with the United States, where they provided reassurances indicate that the actors are American, which will be introduced this

Dinars to Arab markets.In addition, there aside from businessmen away and through their agents introduction of such funds to some Arab countries in many ways and numerous.

In Egypt, mainly from the problem began Dakahlia governorate, specifically from the 'Enbroeh' availability during the three days from the start of last month about three billion Iraqi dinars, has been introduced by some businessmen

And their agents, and Enbroeh moved billions to Mansoura, and then to Kafr Sheikh then Alexandria and Cairo is the last stop.

In Cairo, noon second generation of Iraqi dinars where funds proliferated in many neighborhoods Greater Cairo very quickly emerged about six billion dinars markets in Cairo one week after the first generation of dinars has been moved from Cairo 5,2 billion dinars to the provinces billion level and to another Upper sea while Aldahryon accounted for about 5,2 billion dinars of the total amount.

After that began after waves third, fourth and fifth even reached the total value of the deal to about 40 billion Iraqi dinars entered the Egyptian market from abroad, this is unlike what has been confiscated by the authorities of airports and ports, and was controlled by the Egyptian government, especially since the Egyptian market was target Only about 100 billion Iraqi dinars, and that Washington was not only succeed in introducing 40% of the target amount.

According to the information, there are about 15 billion Iraqi dinars entered the Egyptian market through some Egyptians it is not the gate of America ..

After some of those Egyptians themselves to travel to Iraq and Jordan ..
.Where they buy the 400 Iraqi dinars one dollar, and they are shuttling from Cairo to Jordan, Iraq, and vice versa.

Entered 'Israel' on the line where American agreement which dinar was sold at such a low price and extremely cheaper than all other markets, which drew the attention of some businessmen Gulf specifically where the 10 thousand Iraqi dinars sold at only $ 1.

The information that 'Israel' reserves were large quantities of Iraqi dinars and away from other funds, which prepared the basis for smuggling to the markets of Arab States.

According to sources, these important economic problem led to the sudden increase economic pressure on the Egyptian economy because it has greatly impacted on the dollar reserves of cash was withdrawn large part to buy dinars

Iraqi market needs, and impacts on the Egyptian pound which began inevitably influenced by the millions of dollars that then try to find their way out of Egypt.

The American plan is estimated that the economic effects, particularly on Egypt will exacerbate the economic problems which may lead to further weakness of the national currency Egyptian, as is
;According to the memorandum of America prepared in this regard
.The American policy believes that the issue of promotion of the dinar is essentially the idea of voice and Washington making Iraq the economic model most abundant and well-being of the region even if it led to the destruction of the economies of other countries.
The United States hopes to build this Alenmodgkhalal two or three and make it an attraction to the citizens of other Arab countries who are looking to the Iraqi model that the model is similar to models of some Asian countries in the abundance and prosperity and that it would pay the categories of beneficiaries of the citizens of Arab states to claim circulate model Iraqi events in their country, political and economic change, according to the American agenda.

The American note that the Arab citizen will be linked to personal interests through feeling at the Iraqi currency, which in the hand and which is trying to buy multi-million this currency would seek to invest their funds inside Iraq, and when Iraqis themselves realize that the citizens of other Arab peoples working on investment the land will encourage them in this case would create a public opinion against the resistance force her to stop carrying weapons and coping with

The investment community will be the new identity only seeking money and achieve quick wins any way with any quarter.

According to the analysis, the prevalence billion dinars in the Arab markets is a new kind of war America in economic matters including reflected negatively on the economies of Arab countries, and America will try to link the rift between political, military and economic together in the new concepts already begun.

Wealth ..
;Affluence
After the rapid spread of wealth among fever-few sectors in the Egyptian and Arab street by the Iraqi dinar question is whether it will really Moktenzo Iraqi dinar owners millions, and whether the Sudanese currency Sekittenson future posted the same determination to enhance the experience Almstchdin Kuwaiti dinar, which has astronomical gains the permissible?

The answer to these questions indicate that the Iraqi currency .
Quite different from the case of the Sudanese currency ..

Iraqi currency linked to many other factors such as political stability, specifically the situation in Iraq, and also the difficult economic circumstances experienced by Iraq since 1981 and even if the United States succeeded in forming an Iraqi government stable and able to stop the Iraqi resistance once the external debt of foreign

On Iraq, amounting to 120 billion dollars will be one of the fundamental factors affecting the value of the Iraqi currency in circulation.
Even in the event of successful talks envoy James Baker concerned with Iraq's debt, all indicators say that amounts to be canceled will exceed 35 billion dollars, and these amounts will drop the value of the new Iraqi dinar rate will not exceed 8.5%, as deemed by economists AMERICANS
The information here that those betting that the United States is protecting the dinar Sifajaon that will be the loser in particular creditor nations most stipulated the withdrawal of American forces from Iraq and demand that the United Nations play a central role as unprecedented debt forgiveness.

Secondly, there are the lingering effects of the Anglo-American war on Iraq, where information pointed to the American infrastructure Iraqi mass affected by more than 76% and mean that Iraq would need hundreds of billions of dollars to rebuild the infrastructure again, which is necessary and essential for any foreign investments imported also need three years to come at least to complete the bulk of them.

There is also a third problem is the re-pricing of the Iraqi dinar, or raise its value and this depends mainly on Iraq's own resources, and this problem is identical, in that all of Iraq's resources will be self-recruited for the reconstruction of Iraq and the completion of infrastructure projects in Iraq, and therefore the resources Iraqi self must be a parallel in the value of the conditions of the Iraqi currency in the present situation, because these resources will be invested for the benefit of the economy or for the benefit of adding new resources of national income in the country, hence even in the case of oil re-pumped and agricultural resources

The industrial operation in the event of re-equipped facilities will be fully employed and for the reconstruction of Iraq and, in addition, it would benefit international companies competing for reconstruction projects and win raised maintaining a low and vulnerable to the new Iraqi currency, because any force of this currency would reduce or increase the value of volume profits hurt signed to these companies for work in Iraq.

There is also a view that the Iraqi government will request for the dollar because all foreign companies, which are estimated thousands want to settle their dues in dollars and in accordance with economic principles when it increases demand for the commodity, it must lead to an increase in such drugs, that any increase in the demand for the dollar to settle dues companies The foreign institutions will rise in price will lead to a corresponding decline in the value of new Iraqi currency against the dollar, Taking
.The dollar equals 1500 Iraqi dinars today, and with it the start of reconstruction and foreign companies access to the dues per dollar might exceed the 2500 dinars, or the 300 Iraqi dinars.

Some may wonder about the role of oil in the value of the Iraqi currency and the dollar here Reports indicate that the operations carried out by the Iraqi resistance against oil installations and lines especially in Mosul and Kirkuk and the north will hinder the long-term return of oil production in Iraq earlier custody, or to rates close to the former roof, and restore Iraqi oil lines of work needed, according to American estimates amount to over five billion dollars, and that needs to be over time it may take two or three, in the event of the availability of funds, namely that Iraq in the first period and even in the event of stability the political situation as it is consuming countries will be to the dollar and is not a country
.Investor dollars for a major currency on the basis of which will be evaluating the new currency, this also means in turn that the dollar will increase the value of the dinar will go down than it is worth.

.In addition to all this information is that the formation of a strong hesitate new Iraqi government may carry heavy caliber surprise to Moktenzi Iraqi dinar This government will try to show that the appearance independent from the occupation and to satisfy the people at home, which means that the first highlight of manifestations of independence will be to cancel its dinar Iraqi issued in the era of occupation and printed new currency reflects the new Iraqi government.

According to the information, this is the direction most of the Shiite authorities, and the Sunni in Iraq who feel that you were the new national looting from the Arab countries by the Americans and the new currency is an expression of the occupation authority, and that adhering to it will link all of his work that it has become such paper, which is not worthless.
Here, in this case, be hit the hardest are those Moktenzi currency and Earner bulk of Americans who are sold delusion of others.

There is another view reflects the minority view that after the formation of the new Iraqi government next June must be upheld in Iraqi currency in circulation now for a year and then being changed after that.

This term perspective of the new Iraqi currency, which Stsubh under difficult economic data and deteriorating and thinking in building the economy of Iraqi forces will not be before 5 or 6 years to come, at least, even after this period.
The international obligations on Iraq to the international community and to the development programs and projects of Interior and other things should lead to a change in the Iraqi currency currently being raised.
According to reports, the Americans themselves feel that the Iraqi currency is currently before his transition and a specific time, and it will not be negotiable and that they Delelehm in issuing these currencies categories of large amounts, even one paper up to 250 thousand dinars, and a smaller paper with the category of 5000 the dinar, which means it non-negotiable in the internal market of Iraq, or that even if circulation, the lowest price for the purchase of lower commodity in Iraq even if they loaf of living must be 5000 dinars, and the American government if it wanted to be really strong currency they have issued a few categories in the category of 5 dinars, and the 10 dinars, and the 100 dinars, etc.

Iraqi identical in the near future Lebanese currency and not Kuwaiti dinar.

The role of the Sudanese dinar
After restraining the Iraqi dinar began tending to the voices calling for the Sudanese dinar, and has already begun some senior traders and businessmen to buy large quantities of the Sudanese dinar, which is the price per pound to the value of 350 Sudanese dinars, and that this phenomenon started spreading in Jordan and many other Gulf states, which means that Egypt would specifically in the next few months a wave of American and Israeli conspiracies.
With greedy merchants to promote Sudanese dinar at the expense of the Egyptian local currency and the dollar.

Two have emerged in the planning framework being in the Middle East Intelligence Central America:
I see the trend to maintain the currency's current Sudanese dinars, and the promotion of this high pound against other currencies after the Arab peace agreement and exploit oil, which are present in large quantities in the subsoil of the Sudan
Second trend print new currency for the Sudan similar Iraqi currency to be put in large quantities in the Arab markets, and is considering the new Sudanese currency essential part, and whatever the economic progress of the Sudan.
There are voices already started off in many Arab capitals to confirm the high value of the Sudanese dinar.

There were some quarters had tried recently to promote the Libyan dinar only that the Egyptians played on the high purchase price, but there are some businessmen and the wealthy class benefited greatly from this surge of Libyan dinars.
According to reports Egyptian important, the experience of Libyan dinar indicated that about 88% of wagering and speculators Iraqi dinar What would happen to the Sudanese dinars belonging to the middle class and owners of small savings in

While the majority of wealthy Iraqi dinar dealt with the concept of a quick profit purchased from outside Egypt and the highest selling price of the small savers in a few days through no Ektenzoh as did small savers.
According to the information, invisible hands that started and promoted heavily for the purchase of the Sudanese dinar focus on the political circumstances associated with the signing of the peace agreement in Sudan.

by **kenlej** Mon May 02, 2016 11:13 pm

kenmor wrote:Great post askafeone! Some value of words vs just bashing without anything to back it up!

I'VE BEEN BACKING MYSELF UP FOR 3 YEARS KENMOR
This is for all the Iraqi Dinar RV newbies that somehow someway can still believe that a country that has literally split in three zones “Shiite, Sunni and Kurdish” will be a leader in a Global Currency Reset. Iraq has 84 trillion dinar M2 and 68 billion USD backing the dinar up.

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/iraq/money-supply-m2

http://www.iraqinews.com/business-iraqi-dinar/imf-iraq-reserves-currently-stand-68-billion/

RVscam - BILL CLARK PREDICTS ITS DONE 4/28/16 5000-new-iraqi-dinars-150x150

RVscam - BILL CLARK PREDICTS ITS DONE 4/28/16 5000-new-iraqi-dinars-150x150

This is the reason why it’s 1166 to $1.00. It’s not rocket science understanding that the more currency you have in circulation the less the value will be. There is no way that a currency that is backed by the USD will become a reserve currency. I thought this scam was on it’s last legs but somehow people, because there are so many sites saying it’s real, are believing it even though they are in the middle of a civil war! Iraq Dinar dealers are being raided by the FBI, but people are so enamored to be wealthy they fall hook, line and sinker for this scam.

https://www.iraqidinar.org/sterling-currency-group-lawsuit-review/

http://investorplace.com/2014/06/iraqi-dinar-scam/

There is a great blog ran by a former Dinarian that realized in 2012 that it was a scam and started

RVscam - BILL CLARK PREDICTS ITS DONE 4/28/16 Iraq-currency-watch-300x100

RVscam - BILL CLARK PREDICTS ITS DONE 4/28/16 Iraq-currency-watch-300x100

Visit the website: http://iraqcurrencywatch.com/

It has over 40 articles giving links to facts that this is a scam! Two Iraqi Dinar dealers went to prison in Nov 2014, raids keep happening, but the Iraqi Dinar scam lives on.

RVscam - BILL CLARK PREDICTS ITS DONE 4/28/16 Bh-group-300x258

RVscam - BILL CLARK PREDICTS ITS DONE 4/28/16 Bh-group-300x258

BH Group Iraqi Dinar Scam Conference Calls

RVscam - BILL CLARK PREDICTS ITS DONE 4/28/16 Bhgroup

If you want to hear what a typical BH Group call sounded like, here is an example:

January 24th 2011 BH Group

Video link – Iraqi Dinar Scam

http://www.toledoblade.com/Courts/2014/10/31/Local-men-sentenced-in-dinar-case.html The FBI has issued a warning about the scam

https://forms.fbi.gov/iraqi-dinar-investment-investigation but people still believe it so after this article if you still believe in this scam I have a bridge to sell you going over Tampa Bay named the Sunshine Skyway!!!

Here is a new article on the Iraqi Dinar Scam from the DinarRVnews.net website.

Thanks for checking the site out, please share this article and help wake up others! Check out the website links in the sidebar.

By Mike Diston

by **kenlej** Mon May 02, 2016 11:19 pm

kenmor wrote:Great post askafeone! Some value of words vs just bashing without anything to back it up!

I'VE USED MIKE DISTON,AL AZIZ, AND NOW MY REAL NAME KENNY TO WAKE FOOLS UP BY FACTS BUT WHEN THAT DOESN'T WORK I BASH THE HELL OUT OF THEM
RVscam - BILL CLARK PREDICTS ITS DONE 4/28/16 3508649203

DID KUWAIT REVALUE THEIR CURRENCY Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:19 pm

This is one of the gurus biggest excuses for a revalue of the Iraq dinar is that Kuwait RVed after Iraq left the country. I will show you in this article that contrary to the popular belief that there was a revalue of the Kuwaiti dinar that there was a redomination of the dinar which is a big difference! 1. Saddam’s forces invade Kuwait and they over run the country. 2. While some people were captured a lot of people flee taking with them as much money as possible (Kuwaiti dinar) 3. Because Saddam’s forces occupy Kuwait the value of their currency begins to fall. Those outside Kuwait exchange dinar for a lower rate. 4, In October of that same year Saddam makes the Kuwaiti dinar illegal and he orders that all Kuwaiti dinar must be exchanged for Iraqi dinar. He pegs the Kuwaiti dinar to the Iraqi dinar. As a result the Kuwaiti dinar which is still in circulation falls to its lowest level. 5. American forces liberate Kuwait. When Saddam’s forces leave they take a lot of Kuwaiti dinar with them. This dinar was stolen from the Kuwaiti Central bank. 6. The Kuwaiti government is put back in power and the Kuwaiti dinar is restored to its original price before the central bank was shut down because of Iraqi troops. 7. There was a redenomination for the sole purpose of invalidating the entire dinar supply that was stolen from Kuwait. The important point is when the redenomination occurred there was no change in value. The old dinar was worth just as much as the new dinar. Here are two more articles to go with the New York Times Article. [size] http://articles.latimes.com/1990-09-25/news/mn-1116_1_kuwaiti-dinar http://articles.latimes.com/1991-03-24/news/mn-1395_1_kuwaiti-banks This is a lot different then what people are claiming the Iraqi dinar is going to do! Gurus claim that a policy decision made by the central bank will raise the value of the over 70 trillion dinar anywhere from 100,000 to 400,000 percent. And this has never happened before! This is not what happened in Kuwait! It will not happen for obvious reasons. First the amount of hyperinflation that will come from a move like this will destroy the currency. Second nations want to have the lowest currency because it helps them with exports which strengthens their economy and provides jobs. So if this post came up during a Google search and you friends are trying to tell you to buy dinar or you are new to the dinar world, I am providing this warning for your benefit. Run away from this so-called investment! There is nothing but hype and rumor that is repeated over and over again just to sell this worthless paper Here's the international rate of the Kuwaiti Dinar from 1986 to 2008 which shows there was never a devaluation let alone a revaluation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuwaiti_dinar#mediaviewer/File:KWD_against_USD.PNG So there you have it, the biggest reason the gurus has for the revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar shot down so I hope this awakens you to the truth of the Iraqi RV.[/size]

by **kenlej** Mon May 02, 2016 11:29 pm

kenmor wrote:Great post askafeone! Some value of words vs just bashing without anything to back it up!

DO YOU WANT ANYMORE FACTS HERE'S 34 OF THEM THAT WILL PUT TO REST ANY IDEA OF A RV
Fact 1: Currently there is over 34 trillion Iraqi dinar in circulation outside of the banks. That’s Trillion with a T!
Fact 2: The CBI has over 71 trillion Iraqi dinar in there M1 money supply. Check the CBI website
Fact 3: The CBI has over 85 trillion Iraqi dinar in their M2 money supply. Check the CBI website.
Fact 4: America’s total M2 money supply is only 11 trillion. There is not enough to cover a revalue to even a dollar.
Fact 5: In all of history there has never been a revalue above 50 percent. NEVER!
Fact 6: If the dinar were to revalue to 1 penny that would be a 1,000 percent revalue given the current exchange rate.
Fact 7: If the Dinar were to revalue to 1 dollar that would be 100,000 percent revalue given the current exchange rate.
Fact 8: If the dinar were to go to Its prewar rate it would be a 300,000 percent revalue given the current exchange rate.
Fact 9: Iraq was involved with a currency scam in the 1990’s which is similar to the current dinar scam going on today. In 1993 25 billion was lost to private investors outside of Iraq because of the same hype we see today. Check the Link below,
https://iraqcurrencywatch.wordpress.com/2014/01/15/dinar-updates-5/
Fact 10: Iraq’s reserves have been growing as a direct result of their currency being exported. The United States does not have a bilateral investment treaty (BIT) with Iraq. There are no bilateral treaty obligations which protect the dinar outside of country. Check the link below. In addition Iraq’s National Investment Law does not cover the banking sector and excludes it’s currency. A copy of this law can be obtained here. http://www.export.gov/iraq
[url=http://dazzlepod.com/cable/09BAGHDAD265/?q=rasheed bank iraq]http://dazzlepod.com/cable/09BAGHDAD265/?q=rasheed%20bank%20iraq[/url]
Fact 11: A redenomination would strengthen the dinar and drastically reduce the amount of currency in circulation.
Fact 12: A revalue like the gurus claim would be the same as adding currency to the money supply and it would contribute to hyper-inflation. It would not only make the currency weak it would totally collapse the currency. (check the feds document called Modern Money Mechanics)
https://archive.org/details/ModernMoneyMechanics
Fact 13: There was never a Kuwaiti revalue after the gulf war. Check the Kuwaiti Central Bank Website. Look at Wiki-Pedia. and Check the link below.
https://iraqcurrencywatch.wordpress.com/2012/04/15/the-truth-about-the-iraqi-dinar-part-2/
Fact 14: In 2005 Turkey went through a redenomination with their currency. (TURKISH LIRA) They did not revalue their currency. Check the link below.
http://www.isdadocs.org/speeches/pdf/turkishredom121004.pdf
Fact 15: Only pegged currencies revalue. It is a policy decision made by the central bank for that country. Floating currencies don’t revalue. The market determines the price.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_difference_between_a_floating_and_a_pegged_exchange_rate
Fact 16: Japan’s currency floats. It did not revalue in the 1980’s.The yen isn’t pegged so it wasn’t a revaluation. Second, the yen gained ground simply because the dollar was devalued as a cold war strategy in 1985. Although there were people who did make money from the yen, it was never because of a revaluation. This is known as the Plaza Accord
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plaza_Accord
Fact 17: There is a feasibility study that circulates the dinar forums as proof of a coming revalue. Gurus claim that it is proof for a $1.13 to $1.17 revalue. Here is the study.
http://www.mop.gov.iq/mop/index.jsp?sid=1&id=308&pid=295&lng=en
The truth is this study is from 1984. It is during the Saddam era and it predates both gulf wars. It also predates the hyper-inflation Iraq went through during the 1990’s. In addition to this, the Gulf Wars in Iraq did not devalue the currency. The currency went through hyper-inflation during the 1990’s as a result of overprinting and Saddam invalidating the Swiss dinar outside of country. (See dinar updates 5) This Study no longer applies!
Fact 18: Oil in Iraq is sold in dollars. It is not sold in dinar.
http://bvawe.wordpress.com/2011/07/23/the-role-that-oil-plays/
Fact 19: Iraq is not reducing the money supply. Check the CBI website
Fact 20: The U.S. Treasury does not have trillions of dinar. (check the BH indictment)
Fact 21: Executive order 13303 does not protect the dinar investor. (Once again check the BH Indictment) The U.S. government got a conviction for fraud based on the statements in Fact 20 and Fact 21. According to the Federal Government, It is illegal to import Iraqi dinar. Check the link below.
http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/1305/130521rapidcity.htm
Fact 22: George Bush never said the war will pay for itself.
Fact 23: There was never an agreement for Iraq to compensate America for the war.
Fact 24: Dinar Gurus are being prosecuted for lying about this investment in order to make money off of unsuspecting people. The B.H. Group and David Olmsted serve as examples.
Fact 25: There are many more people who lied concerning the dinar. Tony TnT is just one of many people. In Fact a lot of gurus are multi-level marketers and they come from a questionable past. Check this link.
https://www.facebook.com/PeoplesTalkRadio/posts/493443510673955
Fact 26: The B.H. indictment says that Iraq plans on redenominating their currency. They got convictions of fraud based on statements saying Iraq was going to revalue its currency. Check the indictment below
http://www.realscam.com/attachments/f12/1576d1348185792-bayshore-capital-investments-bh-group-bhgroup_indictment.pdf
Fact 27: A revalue does not work in tiers. It does not occur in one country before it goes into another country. Revalues are global and they happen everywhere at once. Check Iraq’s history. Every time they changed the rate it was reflected the following day at the currency auctions. New rates go into effect immediately every where at once.
Fact 28: The dinar is the most lied about currency I have ever seen. There are a lot of scams associated with the dinar investment. Please note that this does not mean the dinar currency itself is a scam. It is valid and used in Iraq. The scam comes from people (dinar gurus) lying to sell the currency to foreign investors to make a huge profit from it.
Fact 29: The lower denominations were not printed in July of 2011 as the gurus claimed.
Fact 30: The dinar requires a reserve in order to give it value. The reserves for the dinar is the U.S. dollar. Currently there are not enough U.S. dollars (reserves) in Iraq to support a revalue to even a penny. Check the CBI website.
Fact 31: There is no coming Global Reset that will result in a revalue of the dinar. (article coming)
Fact 32: They don’t need to revalue the dinar in order to join the World Trade Organization (article coming with evidence)
Fact 33: The dinar cannot revalue according to the countries resources. There are not enough resources to back the dinar to even a dollar given the amount of Iraqi dinar in circulation.
Fact 34: There have been well over 70 redenominations in the past. In just about every case hyper-inflation happened as a result of over printing the currency. Redenominations happened both during hyper-inflation and years after hyper-inflation. Check out this study.

by **kenmor** Tue May 03, 2016 2:49 pm

Thank you for all your information kenlej, it is appreciated. I will be busy reading all, this afternoon. coffee

.

by **kenmor** Tue May 03, 2016 3:34 pm

Hi kenlej, I read through all your info and yes you have a point but Kuwait was 30 years ago and the most of your research is also from years ago. I understand and respect your thoughts but we live in a world right now that is upside down to say it mildly. Things change, people change. Yes about Sterling, a lot of crooks have been mentioned working for that company and some have seen their day in court! But Sterling has nothing to do with the actual RV. Some of the brokers just saw their moment of hyping up the IQD and other currencies to fill their pockets. You have bad seeds everywhere!
I have been a dinar holder for a few years now and have been through the BS of "tomorrow, tonight, next week and the rest of the blah blah blah . Learned my lesson there!!!!!
I do study Iraq and the world outside of Dinarland and I do believe something big is about to happen , I do not know what!. Is it the RV we are all wishing for or something else? I do not know!
I am part skeptic and part believer in the RV! You can not blame a girl for "wishing upon a star" Smile

Miracles do happen!
I do have a good vibe with Dr. Clarcke. I feel there is something interesting there! Right or wrong, we will find out soon enough..he or she stated that the Dong will do something in the next 9 days!

btw...my back up your bashing was not directed to you. Just in general I do not find it interesting reading the naysayers without valuable information! I just appreciated askefeone's info!

Thanks kenlej

Those who do not believe in magic, will never find it. Roald Dahl

by **kenlej** Tue May 03, 2016 7:56 pm

TNTBS has proven Dr Clarke is Ken Seigel of recaps along with Mtn goat. You just don't get it. NONE and I mean NONE is legit Here's Dr Clarke before Sterling was indicted.
Dr. Clarke: Additionally, many thousands of people have lost lots of sleep over the money that's held up in Reserves, with currency dealers such as Sterling and others, since last year early June 2015. Know this: Your money is not lost.

In fact, the reserved amount that was active as of the date they stopped business - WILL BE REACTIVATED, just as if business had never ceased - this will be announced formally through all those dealers, within 7 DAYS AFTER THE FORMAL ANNOUNCEMENT OF IRAQ'S RV OF DINAR, MAKING IT AVAILABLE TO BE TRADED INTERNATIONALLY.

This is why, the website at Sterling is still operating fully right now as we speak, with you being able to see all pages, and all details of transactions etc. - BUT CANNOT INTERACT ANY TRANSACTIONS.

The idea from the start, was to stop all currency purchases, so as to inventory all buyers, amounts and check all security issues/people, well in advance of the RV event.
....

The other reason, was so that this forced all people, no matter how long this continued - to primarily buy and interact with the banks, and establish relationships for future investment - and for control measures.

If you have Reserves, at the time of the announcement, you'll be given the option of Exchanging with Sterling at a competitive rate OR paying off your currency balance and receiving the currency in hand/shipped - but will take a little longer to receive - even up to 14-21 days.

The idea is to get it exchanged with Sterling or other dealers, as much as possible, to speed things up. This way Sterling/Dealers get their share for participating in this win-win, but since, the banks have already had their chance at getting your business, as well.....win-win for all.

Friends, all is good, and set up for the eventual transfer of wealth, without missing a beat. This shutdown event HAD to occur. It was NECESSARY. This may help you understand, that your money did not go away, or is not lost. It's just delayed.......

I Intend the Best for All, Dr. Clarke

There is billions of dollars to be had by these con artists

by **kenlej** Tue May 03, 2016 8:00 pm

Those who do not believe in magic, will never find it. Roald Dahl
Do know the field of magic has the most con artists through history from Gypsies to the phone psychics. I do believe in magic but not people trying to sell me their magic!!!

by **Dinar Recaps** Tue May 03, 2016 9:25 pm

kenlej wrote:TNTBS has proven Dr Clarke is Ken Seigel of recaps along with Mtn goat. You just don't get it. NONE and I mean NONE is legit Here's Dr Clarke before Sterling was indicted.
Dr. Clarke: Additionally, many thousands of people have lost lots of sleep over the money that's held up in Reserves, with currency dealers such as Sterling and others, since last year early June 2015. Know this: Your money is not lost.

TNTBS has NEVER proven that Ken S, or anyone from Dinar Recaps is Dr. Clarke, Mnt Goat, or ANYONE else. That is a flat out lie.

Dinar Recaps only reposts and posts what OTHERS are saying. NOTHING is from us.

The Dinar Recaps Team

by **Ssmith** Tue May 03, 2016 9:44 pm

Some gurus prefer to remain "Anonymous".

by **Chaz** Wed May 04, 2016 7:44 am

My question to dinar recaps is, why do you continually put this bogus, Intel as you call it for the past 4 years ? Knowing that NONE of it has blossomed into anything but more lies,you have your archives,you know that most of these gurus has proven that everything they have said is not truth,so explain that RECAPS.

by **kenlej** Wed May 04, 2016 6:48 pm

kenmor wrote:Hi kenlej, I read through all your info and yes you have a point but Kuwait was 30 years ago and the most of your research is also from years ago. I understand and respect your thoughts but we live in a world right now that is upside down to say it mildly. Things change, people change. Yes about Sterling, a lot of crooks have been mentioned working for that company and some have seen their day in court! But Sterling has nothing to do with the actual RV. Some of the brokers just saw their moment of hyping up the IQD and other currencies to fill their pockets. You have bad seeds everywhere!
I have been a dinar holder for a few years now and have been through the BS of "tomorrow, tonight, next week and the rest of the blah blah blah . Learned my lesson there!!!!!
I do study Iraq and the world outside of Dinarland and I do believe something big is about to happen , I do not know what!. Is it the RV we are all wishing for or something else? I do not know!
I am part skeptic and part believer in the RV! You can not blame a girl for "wishing upon a star" Miracles do happen!
I do have a good vibe with Dr. Clarcke. I feel there is something interesting there! Right or wrong, we will find out soon enough..he or she stated that the Dong will do something in the next 9 days!

btw...my back up your bashing was not directed to you. Just in general I do not find it interesting reading the naysayers without valuable information! I just appreciated askefeone's info!

Thanks kenlej

Those who do not believe in magic, will never find it. Roald Dahl

kENMOR

THIS IS THE BS THAT DR CLARKE " KEN SEIGLE OF RECRAPS" JUST PUT OUT I"VE SEEN SOME REAL GARBAGE IN THE 3YRS I'VE FOUGHT THIS SCAM BUT THIS IS THE BIGGEST LIES EVER.
WE HAVE A GURU HUNTER JUST BACK FROM A 2WK TRIP THAT SAID VIETNAM DOESN'T WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DONG I'LL SEE IF HE WILL COMMENT HERE. HERE'S THE ARTICLE

Subject: Dr. Clarke 5/416 Today at 4:33 pm

DR. CLARKE: Vietnamese Dong. Why would they be doing this? Read it: Firms adapt to anti-dollar drive Tuesday, 05/03/2016, 08:57 Domestic firms have taken the first measures in an effort to adapt to the State Bank of Vietnam (SBV)’s new regulation on tightening foreign currency credit. Under Circular 24/2015/TT-NHNN, commercial banks are no longer allowed to provide lending in foreign currency to firms which do not need it for offshore payments since March 31 this year. The tightening in foreign currency credit is aimed to step up the central bank’s anti-dollarisation drive. SBV said that the new regulation affects only those firms which often obtain foreign currency loans from banks and will later convert them into dong to fund their domestic production. .... The new rules on foreign currency loans are expected to stabilise exchange rates and strengthen the dong. However, it also has side effects on firms, especially agriculture and seafood exporters, which often take loans in foreign currencies to meet their great funding demand. Banking expert Nguyen Tri Hieu estimated that without foreign currency loans, interest rates for which were often roughly 6% to 9% lower than that of the dong, input costs could increase for exporters. To adapt with the new rule, many exporters have paid more attention to the movement of the dong - US dollar exchange rate. They are even hunting for high ranking personnel specialising in finance and foreign exchange. Previously, only FDI firms were interested in such activities. A high-ranking official of an Ho Chi Minh City-based human resources consulting company, who declined to be named, said that her company had received urgent orders from five major domestic companies to recruit senior personnel in finance and capital resources. Recruitment positions are required to have experience in finance, foreign exchange, capital resources management and structured products. The executive, with nearly 20 years of experience in finance and human resources, forecast that this was only the beginning of the ‘thirst’ for senior personnel to service transactions of firms in foreign currency derivatives and interest rates besides normal forward transactions currently. Besides, banking experts said that the exporters had also paid more attention to insurance services of exchange rate and interest rate. Bidding demand of firms for dollar forward contracts surged sharply against early this year, they said. Representatives from Sacombank and Maritime Bank told Nhip cau dau tu (Bridge for Investment) newspaper that more firms had been interested in financial products. Bids for interest rate swap (IRS), forward rate agreement (FRA), or interest rate option (IRO) products in the inter-bank market, were heating up due to rising consultancy demands from firms. To offset the capital source that was previously transferred from foreign currency loans, some major listed companies are also preparing plans to call for new funds or issue corporate bonds in wake of the tightening of foreign currency credit and the high dong lending interest rate. http://english.vov.vn/economy/firms-adapt-to-antidollar-drive-318712.vov Look familiar? IRAQ - WATCH: Dr. Clarke https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs069dndIYk DR. CLARKE: It's been decided to significantly raise the value of the Vietnamese Dong, over the next 10 days........Greater - Later. FYI, the protesters in Iraq, were purposely allowed into parliament... Dr. Clarke ************************ DR. CLARKE: It's been decided to significantly raise the value of the Vietnamese Dong, over the next 10 days........Greater - Later. FYI, the protesters in Iraq, were purposely allowed into parliament... Dr. Clarke

by **kenmor** Wed May 04, 2016 10:44 pm

That could mean 2 things:
1. Dr Clarke is hyping up the Dong for more people to invest in the currency
2. It is true that the Dong will increase in value (This we will find out soon enough, 8 more days to go) Wink

Does your friend has any backup in regards to Vietnam not wanting anything to do with the Dong cause I could not find anything online in regards to this and I like proof! Very Happy

by **RamblerNash** Thu May 05, 2016 12:34 am

Ssmith wrote:Some gurus prefer to remain "Anonymous".

Yep...There is that old "Anonymous"...

by **kenlej** Thu May 05, 2016 10:25 pm

kenmor wrote:That could mean 2 things:
1. Dr Clarke is hyping up the Dong for more people to invest in the currency
2. It is true that the Dong will increase in value (This we will find out soon enough, 8 more days to go)

Does your friend has any backup in regards to Vietnam not wanting anything to do with the Dong cause I could not find anything online in regards to this and I like proof!

He was in Vietnam. The people of Vietnam like Iraq uses USD instead of their crap paper like recraps and Ken Seigels likes lying to u gullible people.

Shawn Dawson ‏[size=13][ltr]@ShawnDawson20[/ltr]  Apr 14
Over here in Asia for 2 weeks & we are a laughing stock with our political CRAP. Where is America?#wearethepeople & No RV in sight LOL! !
Shawn Dawson ‏[ltr]@ShawnDawson20[/ltr]  Apr 14
Peeps over here wondering what the hell US is doing!??! Asked about RV and just get blank stares or shaking of heads LOL #wearethepeople
Shawn Dawson ‏[ltr]@ShawnDawson20[/ltr]  Apr 14
Singapore friend asked his banker brother about RV. He knew of nothing but said big talk in US for years. There you go. #wearethepeople
Shawn Dawson ‏[ltr]@ShawnDawson20[/ltr]  Apr 15
Oh yeah & NO One in Taiwan knows anything about RV for Dong or anything else to do with it. Goodnight from other side globe #wearethepeople
Shawn Dawson ‏[ltr]@ShawnDawson20[/ltr]  Apr 16
@bingohanley I'm over here in Asia for a bit and No sign of RV. They know nothing about it. LOL No one buying Dong #wearethepeople
Shawn Dawson ‏[ltr]@ShawnDawson20[/ltr]  Apr 18
NO RV news in Hong Kong. Vietnam doesn't even want their Dong. They want yuan or usd. LOL #wearethepeople
Shawn Dawson ‏[ltr]@ShawnDawson20[/ltr]  Apr 18
4 million Dong = 3500 nt, which = 165.00 usd. So when was the RV?? And where?? Told ya #wearethepeople Tank is an F-ing LIAR!!! #TankLIES
Shawn Dawson ‏[ltr]@ShawnDawson20[/ltr]  Apr 19
No sign of RV here in Asia. So far 4 countries & NO well placed peeps know anything. They've heard stories #RVscam #wearethepeople
Shawn Dawson ‏[ltr]@ShawnDawson20[/ltr]  Apr 19
#wearethepeople Don't belive these Lyin' gurus!! A trip outside USA will show U there is No RV Ever Gonna Happen!! Zim worth < than Zero!
Shawn Dawson ‏[ltr]@ShawnDawson20[/ltr]  Apr 19
Just as I thought NO TRADING/EXCHANGING OF DINAR/DONG in Thailand. LOL Zim? NOTHING/Zip/Nada!#wearethepeople Sorry just the truth. #RVscam
Shawn Dawson ‏[ltr]@ShawnDawson20[/ltr]  Apr 20
@DinarDaily Bruce is a frigging LIAR! Yuan is same as last month & Dong is lifeless. No Exchanging! Caught you Lyin' Bruce #wearethepeople
Shawn Dawson ‏[ltr]@ShawnDawson20[/ltr]  Apr 20
Ok let's recap #wearethepeople. No mention or anything about RV in HK, Vietnam, Singapore Thailand Taiwan. Malaysia is next. #BRUCELIES
Shawn Dawson ‏[ltr]@ShawnDawson20[/ltr]  Apr 20
No one wants Dong & it's difficult finding a place to exchange it. Only place I found was a Unicorn ranch.#wearethepeople
Shawn Dawson ‏[ltr]@ShawnDawson20[/ltr]  Apr 21
Maybe for the Queen's b-day she'll let the RV go. Surprised no pumpers picked up on that.#wearethepeople
Shawn Dawson ‏[ltr]@ShawnDawson20[/ltr]  Apr 21
Hmm No indication of any RV in Malaysia. Darn. Didn't China kick the RV off in Sept? Just checking. LMAO#wearethepeople #RVscam
Shawn Dawson ‏[ltr]@ShawnDawson20[/ltr]  12h12 hours ago
You have to be well connected to exchange ANY DONG in the Asian countries. NO ONE WANTS IT!!! Worthless!!! LMAO #wearethepeople in HK GM
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Shawn Dawson ‏[ltr]@ShawnDawson20[/ltr]  12h12 hours ago
2 more stops left. Vietnam & Taiwan. So far NO bankers/business developers are putting their stock in a RV. #RVscam #wearethepeople
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by **kenlej** Thu May 05, 2016 10:37 pm

this is his last one in Vietnam
Shawn Dawson ‏[ltr]@ShawnDawson20[/ltr] May 2
I got back from a Biz trip that included stops in 'Nam & they don't even want the worthless Dong ! Give 'em USD or Yuan. #wearethepeople

by **Jayzze** Sat May 07, 2016 1:48 am

the only thing that is done is him and his lies

by **aksafeone** Sat May 07, 2016 11:24 am

Ssmith said,
Some gurus prefer to remain "Anonymous".

Does not surprise me a bit. They want to not have any responsibility, accountability or means to be held in any way associated with their statement. This is a perfect example of lying with no fear of reprisal. If ya can't find me ya can't punish me. Well, guess what? If ya used a computer you can be found. The process may be as long as the Dinar Process (supposed process) has been BUT you can be found.

These clowns remind me of Okie's airplane or Bull Dogs train: Never completing their task. The plane don't land when it is supposed to and the train has trouble pulling into the station. The RV doesn't happen when they claim either. Gurus, me thinks we could live without them!

by **kenmor** Mon May 09, 2016 3:30 pm

For those who are interested in the VND (DONG) in reference to the statement Dr Clarke made. Here is a website to keep your eye on! Three more days (by May 12th) as Dr C. predicted for the significant increase in value of the VND value!

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/vietnam/currency

[b]REAL TIME INFO[/b]

by **kenmor** Mon May 09, 2016 3:45 pm

And here is some nice info about Iraq - you can educate yourself this way too!
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/iraq/indicators

by **kenlej** Mon May 09, 2016 8:08 pm

That's one of my favorite sites to show the facts of the RV scam. Have you really studied the indicators? The GDP of Iraq is 221 billion USD about the same as Greece
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/iraq/gdp
Iraq GDP 1960-2016 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast | News

The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in Iraq was worth 220.51 billion US dollars in 2014. The GDP value of Iraq represents 0.36 percent of the world economy. GDP in Iraq averaged 46.41 USD Billion from 1960 until 2014, reaching an all time high of 232.50 USD Billion in 2013 and a record low of 1.70 USD Billion in 1960. GDP in Iraq is reported by the World Bank Group.

RVscam - BILL CLARK PREDICTS ITS DONE 4/28/16 Iraq-gdp

The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in Vietnam was worth 186.20 billion US dollars in 2014. The GDP value of Vietnam represents 0.30 percent of the world economy. GDP in Vietnam averaged 55.42 USD Billion from 1985 until 2014, reaching an all time high of 186.20 USD Billion in 2014 and a record low of 6.30 USD Billion in 1989. GDP in Vietnam is reported by the World Bank.

RVscam - BILL CLARK PREDICTS ITS DONE 4/28/16 Vietnam-gdp

by **kenlej** Mon May 09, 2016 8:31 pm

Then you have the most important indicators of them all for a countries currency The money supply of a country is the biggest reason for the value and in Iraq's case they have 82577 trillion dinar
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/iraq/money-supply-m2
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/vietnam/money-supply-m2
Iraq Money Supply M2[size=14] 2003-2016 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast
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Money Supply M2 in Iraq decreased to 82577 IQD Billion in January from 82679 IQD Billion in December of 2015. Money Supply M2 in Iraq averaged 46311.98 IQD Billion from 2003 until 2016, reaching an all time high of 91704 IQD Billion in December of 2014 and a record low of 6953 IQD Billion in December of 2003. Money Supply M2 in Iraq is reported by the Central Bank of Iraq.

RVscam - BILL CLARK PREDICTS ITS DONE 4/28/16 Iraq-money-supply-m2

They had to get rid of 9 trillion dinar just to keep the value at 1166 to a $1

Then you have Vietnam that has almost 52 QUAD Trillion LMAO
Vietnam Money Supply M2 1986-2016 | Data | Chart | Calendar | Forecast

Money Supply M2 in Vietnam increased to 5179216 VND Billion in 2014 from 4400692.23 VND Billion in 2013. Money Supply M2 in Vietnam averaged 967401.39 VND Billion from 1986 until 2014, reaching an all time high of 5179216 VND Billion in 2014 and a record low of 112 VND Billion in 1986. Money Supply M2 in Vietnam is reported by the Asian Development Bank.

RVscam - BILL CLARK PREDICTS ITS DONE 4/28/16 Vietnam-money-supply-m2

by **kenmor** Mon May 09, 2016 8:43 pm

Yes I love these graphs and charts - they show facts.

by **kenlej** Mon May 09, 2016 8:46 pm

So Kenmore you can wait until the 12th of May,June,July,and Aug of 2020 as long as they have that mich currency it's impossible for a revalue. By the way the Dong is backed by USD as is Iraq
Vietnam Foreign Exchange Reserves 1990-2016 | Data | Chart | Calendar

Foreign Exchange Reserves in Vietnam increased to 34124.62 USD Million in 2014 from 25744.62 USD Million in 2013. Foreign Exchange Reserves in Vietnam averaged 9455.11 USD Million from 1990 until 2014, reaching an all time high of 34124.62 USD Million in 2014 and a record low of 0.01 USD Million in 1991. Foreign Exchange Reserves in Vietnam is reported by the Asian Development Bank.

RVscam - BILL CLARK PREDICTS ITS DONE 4/28/16 Vietnam-foreign-exchange-reserves

by **kenlej** Mon May 09, 2016 8:57 pm

The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) in the United States was worth 17419 billion US dollars in 2014. The GDP value of the United States represents 28.10 percent of the world economy. GDP in the United States averaged 6353.60 USD Billion from 1960 until 2014, reaching an all time high of 17419 USD Billion in 2014 and a record low of 543.30 USD Billion in 1960. GDP in the United States is reported by the World Bank.

or 17 and a half trillion dollars or 28% of the worlds GDP
RVscam - BILL CLARK PREDICTS ITS DONE 4/28/16 United-states-gdp

Then the amount of currency
United States Money Supply M2[size=14] 1959-2016 | Data | Chart | Calendar
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Money Supply M2 in the United States increased to 12567.20 USD Billion in March from 12472.80 USD Billion in February of 2016. Money Supply M2 in the United States averaged 3559.53 USD Billion from 1959 until 2016, reaching an all time high of 12567.20 USD Billion in March of 2016 and a record low of 286.60 USD Billion in January of 1959. Money Supply M2 in the United States is reported by the Federal Reserve.

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RVscam - BILL CLARK PREDICTS ITS DONE 4/28/16 United-states-money-supply-m2

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by **kenmor** Mon May 09, 2016 9:09 pm

LOVE YOUR SARCASM kenlej....LOL. But I can almost guarantee you something major is going to happen financially before this year is over! I have been checking out the world economics a lot lately. And putting all of this info together, something is up! These charts do give us real info but there is lot more playing. You can chew me up, spit me out etc. later if I am wrong Wink

. Like I said before - does not have to be the IQD etc... RVing but we are going to be bedazzled soon. The world is about to POP! And I believe in a good way!

by **aksafeone** Mon May 09, 2016 9:40 pm

Bring it on!!! WE need something good, positive and that has this warm fuzzy feeling we all have been lacking lately.

AS to the Clark prediction: I PREDICT HE IS FULL OF BARNYARD MANURE. I predict that nothing will happen, as all the other times, and we will be the same place we were only with less time left in this world. I also predict he will "grace" us with more predictions in the future. (Yuk!"

But what do I know? I know that listening to gurus makes one tired, down, irritated, and insufferably fed up. Ah, hey Bill, take a long walk on a short pier will ya? Refreshing it will be, fo rus!

by **Kevind53** Mon May 09, 2016 9:52 pm

kenmor wrote:LOVE YOUR SARCASM kenlej....LOL. But I can almost guarantee you something major is going to happen financially before this year is over! I have been checking out the world economics a lot lately. And putting all of this info together, something is up! These charts do give us real info but there is lot more playing. You can chew me up, spit me out etc. later if I am wrong . Like I said before - does not have to be the IQD etc... RVing but we are going to be bedazzled soon. The world is about to POP! And I believe in a good way!

I doubt it, but we will see. I too have spent a lot of time looking at things economic, but in my estimation, if we see anything, it's likely to be ugly, very ugly.

by **RamblerNash** Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:06 pm

kenlej wrote:HEY BILL, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE COLORS AGAIN IT'S ORANGE

TELL US ABOUT THE SHIITES TAKING OVER PARLIAMENT I GUESS THE RV IS STILL ONLY DAYS AWAY FOOL

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57m ago I HAVE HAD COMMUNICATIONS YESTERDAY AND THIS MORNING FROM CONTACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CERTAIN GROUPS THAT HAVE BEEN PROCESSING THE GCR AND RV. THE INFORMATION THEY PROVIDE MATCHES UP AND ALSO SYNC'S WITH OTHER INFORMATION YOU MAY BE READING OR HEARING.
ADMINBILL wrote
53m ago THE PROCESS HAS NOT STOPPED OR STALLED ACCORDING TO MY INFORMATION. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS NEVER BEEN ATTEMPTED. IT IS A PROCESS THAT IS SO MASSIVELY HUGE IN TERMS OF CURRENCY, HARD ASSETS AND BONDS THAT THE ACTUAL VALUE IS INCOMPREHENSIBLE TO US MORTALS. CONSIDER THAT EACH ASSET, EACH CURRENCY NOTE, AND EACH BOND FROM EVERY SINGLE PERSON AND COUNTRY MUST BE METICULOUSLY ACCOUNTED FOR AND PERHAPS THEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THE ENORMITY AND COMPLEXITY OF THIS PROJECT.
ADMINBILL wrote
51m ago THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN END IN SIGHT AND THAT END IS RIGHT AROUND THE BEND. WE MUST CONTINUE TO BE PATIENT AND ALLOW THESE REMARKABLE PEOPLE COMPLETE THEIR TASKS SO THAT THE PROCESS HAS NO CHANCE TO UNRAVEL IN THE FUTURE. KEEP IN MIND THE TIME FRAMES WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN AND GO ABOUT YOUR DAY.
ADMINBILL wrote
48m ago I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT PRIVATE GROUPS WILL BE PROCESS WITH THE PUBLIC. YOU MAY BE NOTIFIED DIFFERENTLY.
Morgan Savagewrote
47m ago ADMINBILL is the 30th the time frame you are speaking of?
ADMINBILL wrote
45m ago MS - YES

ADMINBILL wrote
40m ago ALL THE NEWS CONTINUES TO BE GOOD BUT PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THIS IS A MAN MADE EVENT, NOT THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. IT IS NOT WRITTEN IN STONE AND CAN BE CHANGED AS NEEDED.

by **aksafeone** Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:14 pm

Weel since me sees no changes in Bills gibberish in years ---- CYA!

by **RamblerNash** Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:30 am

kenlej wrote:HEY BILL, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE COLORS AGAIN IT'S ORANGE

TELL US ABOUT THE SHIITES TAKING OVER PARLIAMENT I GUESS THE RV IS STILL ONLY DAYS AWAY FOOL

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57m ago I HAVE HAD COMMUNICATIONS YESTERDAY AND THIS MORNING FROM CONTACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CERTAIN GROUPS THAT HAVE BEEN PROCESSING THE GCR AND RV. THE INFORMATION THEY PROVIDE MATCHES UP AND ALSO SYNC'S WITH OTHER INFORMATION YOU MAY BE READING OR HEARING.
ADMINBILL wrote
53m ago THE PROCESS HAS NOT STOPPED OR STALLED ACCORDING TO MY INFORMATION. THIS IS A PROJECT THAT HAS NEVER BEEN ATTEMPTED. IT IS A PROCESS THAT IS SO MASSIVELY HUGE IN TERMS OF CURRENCY, HARD ASSETS AND BONDS THAT THE ACTUAL VALUE IS INCOMPREHENSIBLE TO US MORTALS. CONSIDER THAT EACH ASSET, EACH CURRENCY NOTE, AND EACH BOND FROM EVERY SINGLE PERSON AND COUNTRY MUST BE METICULOUSLY ACCOUNTED FOR AND PERHAPS THEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THE ENORMITY AND COMPLEXITY OF THIS PROJECT.
ADMINBILL wrote
51m ago THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN END IN SIGHT AND THAT END IS RIGHT AROUND THE BEND. WE MUST CONTINUE TO BE PATIENT AND ALLOW THESE REMARKABLE PEOPLE COMPLETE THEIR TASKS SO THAT THE PROCESS HAS NO CHANCE TO UNRAVEL IN THE FUTURE. KEEP IN MIND THE TIME FRAMES WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN AND GO ABOUT YOUR DAY.
ADMINBILL wrote
48m ago I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT PRIVATE GROUPS WILL BE PROCESS WITH THE PUBLIC. YOU MAY BE NOTIFIED DIFFERENTLY.
Morgan Savagewrote
47m ago ADMINBILL is the 30th the time frame you are speaking of?
ADMINBILL wrote
45m ago MS - YES

ADMINBILL wrote
40m ago ALL THE NEWS CONTINUES TO BE GOOD BUT PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THIS IS A MAN MADE EVENT, NOT THE TEN COMMANDMENTS. IT IS NOT WRITTEN IN STONE AND CAN BE CHANGED AS NEEDED.

ADMINSHILL wrote:"THE INFORMATION THEY PROVIDE MATCHES UP AND ALSO SYNC'S WITH OTHER INFORMATION YOU MAY BE READING OR HEARING."

What would happen if ALL you Gurus would stop repeating mi-information from yourselves?

Would VIP memberships cease to exist?

Would sales of those Zoomer products fall?

Would seminars, hosted by some of the Gurus, not be filled with people?

Would donations stop paying for the Gurus houses, cars, and party life?

by **Terbo56** Fri Jan 27, 2017 2:49 pm

They wouldn't exist, which is fine with me- Let 'em all lose everything, like a lot of dinar holders did- Then it wouldn't be so f'n funny, would it, the loser bastards-Nothin' but diabolical thieves, every one of 'em- 2cents

Karma is a real bitch- Twisted Evil

by **Chaz** Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:49 pm

Glad this post has surfaced,I'll tell you one thing, anyone who believes in fairy tales, don't belong in a business.

Yes, once I did believe in fairy tales, & I lost a lot of money, lessons learned the hard way.

by **RamblerNash** Wed May 10, 2017 10:38 am

A year ago and still telling tales...

by **aksafeone** Wed May 10, 2017 11:25 am

20 years from now he will still be beating the same old drum! RV soon, headed to the bank, gonna be tomorrow. Whoooopppppeeeeee doo dah.

BORING. Hey Bill, take a long walk on a short pier. Tell the fishes, we don't care.