Wiley Morgan of Gen64 on Skype Chat Friday Night ~ Updated 6/10

Ethel Biscuit wrote:

Ssmith wrote:Super Secret Squirrels.  Was that where KevinD53 came from?

Indeed - the armed response section, I believe.

Ponee wrote:KATT used to be a SUPERMOD  here when this was the OKIE OILMAN SITE.  She had a big falling out with the original owner of this site and left and took a bunch of people with her. She was with GURU Johnywg--- They went  on to make their own website.... 3sIntel -- Super Secret Squirrels.     It didn't last very long.

Ssmith wrote:Super Secret Squirrels.  Was that where KevinD53 came from?

Kevind53 wrote:

Ssmith wrote:Super Secret Squirrels.  Was that where KevinD53 came from?

Well since I was an Electronics Tech in the military, and we carried the nickname Squirrel, and I did carry a Top Secret clearance, in that sense  I guess I was a super secret squirrel once. But as far as the website goes, I think I looked at it a few times, but never was active. In fact other than here and Bond Lady Chat I have never been active at all in dinar land, and I only go to BLC infrequently.

Ponee wrote:KATT used to be a SUPERMOD  here when this was the OKIE OILMAN SITE.  She had a big falling out with the original owner of this site and left and took a bunch of people with her. She was with GURU Johnywg--- They went  on to make their own website.... 3sIntel -- Super Secret Squirrels.     It didn't last very long.

Ssmith wrote:Posted by Camdoc at WSOMN:



Wiley Morgan of Gen64 on Skype Chat Friday Night

 This long Skype chat was disturbing to those of us who have drunk the WSOMN koolaid and expect to RV any day now.  I encourage you to consider what Wiley says, and to FEEL the veracity of what he has to say.  I found that Wiley's statements did not have the same feeling that I get from hearing Tank or Joseph or many others on WSOMN.  That could be, as someone said, because I am addicted to the hopium.  Or, it could be that what he says is true, and I just don't want to hear it.  Or, it could be that he is telling us his version of the truth, and it is a reality removed from the reality and the truth that I live in.  Contemplate it yourselves, and decide for yourself what to believe, and what to do about it.
 
 
[I am prefacing with a few comments which were posted AFTER the long chat:
Diana: I AM WONDERING WHY DO ANYONE FALL FOR WHAT THAT WILLIE IS SAYING???
CANNOT YOU SEE THAT HE IS A PLANT TO FREAK EVERYONE???
DO NOT PAY ANY ATTENTION
DO NOT GIVE HIM ANY IMPORTANCE
JUST IHGNORE HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I AM OUT, BUT DO NOT FALL AND WASTE YOUR ENERGY WITH THAT KIND OF PEOPLE
BYE, I DO CARE HOW I SPEND MY TIME
 
Camdoc: Diana, interesting hypothesis.  I certainly no longer am aligned with everything Sweet Queen says, after her certainty yesterday that Drake Baily and Fisher are the same.  Certainly Wiley does NOT have the same vibe as Tank, Joseph, and most of WSOMN right now.
 
Wiley: I am not asking everyone to believe me blindly, go and read what we as a group have been posting for over 6 years. IT is that same then as it is today.]
 
Wiley Morgan (curator of Gen64 / Wells Fargo Group) in Skype chat tonight:
 
there is alot of bad information that has been floating about as of late, this reminds me of the community and how it was about 4 or 5 years ago. I will do my best to answer your questions and concerns. We as group leaders have not really made any statements in awhile as there is really nothing to say at this time. All we can do is wait and that is the hardest thing to do.
 
no we do not talk about the details or protocols, you can see what everyone is posting were talking points from a meeting KCMANA and I had in Kansas city 5 years ago. Since that time we have been asked to stop talking about them cause others latched onto them and were using them to confuse the community at large
 
Anything I or the group leadership have posted can be found at the INTEL4U forum...just search my name and you will find what has been put out
 
there are no rates on any screens to work with at the banks, the IQD is still listed as an exotic currency. Until it is removed and a new rate given we wait
 
at not time have we been called to go to the bank or been ready to send out the 800#'s
 
the 800's only pertain to our group deal, not everyone as you all have been told, Admirals is organized far differently and does not need 800#'s.
 
WF is not dessiminating information into the community
 
they would love nothing more than to have people stop talking about them to quit impeding thier day to day business
 
Q: Wiley do you think Rv this year ?
 
W: no one knows that not even me
 
the banks will not be the one that has the final say when this happens
 
that I agree with...the hype as of late is at a fever pitch and it comes from the same people with new screen names
 
it hurts alot of people that are new to this and have not seen what all has transpired over the years with dealers being shut down by the FBI, gurus going to jail for lying to profit from the community
 
spock I know nothing of the zimbabwe currency and what it will do
 
Q:  Wiley is there really an internet group?
 
W: not unless you count everyone that gets on the sites and reads the daily dinar boards
 
Q: I wish these gurus would say , put your currency away - it will happen someday
 
W:  You have nailed it princess A
 
this is a wait issue and how one spends their time doing this is up to each person
 
when it does truly happen it will go viral and verifiable to anyone who can dial a phone and call a bank that does currency transactions
 
exactly, there is nothing for the group leaders to do at this point
 
 : we have structured the deal, gathered the emails and now we wait
  nothing we do or say will change anything
 
myself I spend my time doing not for profit work in Kurdistan
 
Ken [Seigel who owns Recaps] will not post me anymore as I am too polarizing for his audeince. I respect him for telling me personally as to why he choses not too
 
Q: WM any possibility that the 3 zero dinar currency we now hold will be eliminated similar to the deletion of the 50 dinar category?
 
tell no lies that way there is less to remember
Omni that is a distinct possibly, however I would have to conclude that is more of an in country issue for them and not so much for us
the 50 was removed as it had no security measures on it and was the easiest to counterfiet with a copier
 
Q.  Wiley are 'the group' rates locked in right now?
 
W no, that would be insider trading
we have an  MOU and LOI we are operating under
 
Q Ok cool,we have been hearing the longer this goes on for the higher the rates get
 
W: no one truly know that
 
it is only speculation from those that read the arcticles and then give opinion pieces on them, only [they] state it as fact when there is not evidence to back thier statement
 
A: Wiley .....so if those rates were going to be there we could negotiate up to the higher rates? even if we go with the group?
 
W: that is only speculation, no ones knows what they will truly do after all this time. I can only speak of things from a group leadership perspective. We have never put that out contrary to what some say, we have never taken a dime or are being paid by anyone for any of our work to date
 
we built a group, built a database and negotiated a deal, so many talk as if they are leaders of the group and pass along bad information
 
if there is anything to put out it will come from Kcmana or myself
 
 
Q: Banks in Canada?
W: definatively I do not and anyone telling you they know is not being honest
 
again if you want to know more and are reluctant to ask here, you can find just about everything we have ever put out over at the INTEL4U site. That is the only place that we post
 
Q: This isnt meant to be derogatory,but many say the real Wiley would never come on a board to talk,so how come you agree'd to come here?
 
W:  no I am not, why would a bank spend money for that if they are not even ready to do this. Banks do not waste money like that. I would never go to a location that was not a bank especially going to a new locatoin when you have no idea who the people there are. huge security issue and red flags for me
 
dale  because my phone has literally been going crazy from all the nonsense going on and people bringing the group into it
 
when group leaders have to get on the phone and put out fires it creates issues that we truly do not want and do not need
 
I am just a regular person, no one special and no one will remember when this is over. I just became a face and a voice for many, nothing more
 
SweetQueen: Folks I know there are many doubters as to whether this is the real Wiley Morgan.  I have no interest nor does he is defrauding any of you, our agenda is to not allow people to get hurt.  I go by the rules that I would rather hear an ugly truth than a pretty lie.
 
Q  Wiley would the elders accept other currencys like the Zim or Rupiah or the Riel in our 'group' currency's ?
 
W: we have never spoken about those at anytime
 
the bank will work with you on any of them if they are tradeable
 
C: I hear you,just thought our group would have negotiated those other currencys in as well.thought i would ask
 
SQ:  For the record Intel4u.net does not have a group.  It is simply the platform Wiley has used to convey the message to the members that signed up in Generals64 group which I believe is now the WF Group.
 
Q: Wiley: so, is the conclusion that all that we have been hearing is just hype? There is no talk about this happening anytime soon?
 
W: not in any cirlce that I have talked to
 
do not let others lead you astray thinking that through only them will you find out when this is truly happening. Many of them are just regular people with jobs like the rest of us. They get info from those that have been behind the scenes for years putting out bad information. These new gurus were not the first to ever be lied to in this. There will come a time when they realize that they are being used.
 
Glen, we prenegotiated things for some elderly people that did not feel they had the knowledge or comfort level dealing with the bank. Others like me who do this stuff daily took that on and negotiated on everyones behalf using the power of leverage to work a part of the spread to our advantage.
 
(Re Dr Clarke and Mt Goat)
I do not think there are the same people, two distinct different wrtiting styles, but I honestly do not know. I quit doing background check on people long ago
again I am waiting just like everyone else
 
I do not long on everyday to read everything, I do get sent alot of stuff but scan it briefly and move on with non profit business that I can see making a measurable difference in peoples lives righ tnow
 
many will not like what I have posted tonight and that is fine. Everyone is entitled to thier opinions. The immutable fact is we are all waiting and no one is getting the secret information they are telling this community.
 
dale I am not privy to what happens in those [WTO] meetings or discussion and to say anything on it one way or the other would be an opinion
 
yeah I am already getting the IM from those that do not like it
I cannot change the facts and I gain nothing by lying
 
those who are in the group will be emailed by the bank
 
C: We might not like it, but I would rather have the truth, than all this mess we hear every day
 
SQ: Wiley don't let anyone upset you, as always I know your heart and your credibility.  And I thank you for accepting my request.
 
W: we have been asked to not talk about banks by name as what many think they know they do not
 
(What about Canadians?)
W: George I honestly do not know what they will do in the end as so much has changed in the 6 years when we started this
 
SQ I have thick skin, I am a RANGER, take alot more to intimidate me
 
did you sign up at any time
if you did they your in the database
 
Jade: Yes, and KCMana emailed me
 
W:  then you are good to go Jadenter
 
(Do you mean that no one has exchanged privately?)
how can anyone exchange a currency that is still listed as exotic and no rates to work with. You think the dealers would still be selling at a loss if people were exchanging
 
we stay in the good graces because we stay quiet, I only come on tonight to stop some of the nonsense we have had to deal with most of this week
 
we shut the server down so we have no way to email the entire group if we wanted too. this is the your group, you are the best advocate for it not us. We only acted as your voices at the negotiations
 
C:  Wiley is it true if an email was submitted twice it probably got bounced out of the database? I double submitted because i never got a reply the first time is why i mention this
 
W: Awesome thanks a lot for that one,it was talked about for years
 
lots of people think they are helping others when they start talking about the group but inadvertantly hurt them when they are saying the wrong things
 
we have never asked you for money, to send us your currency, the only thing we asked for was an email so that we could pass along so you could get the information you need when this happens
 
if you want to share I am fine with that, I know it will get twisted down stream but that is what it is.
 
dale, being a leader in this is not all it is cracked up to be. there are so many of you and so few of us and we truly do not have super secret intel or people telling us daily that this is happening and that is happening. That is the dinar illusion painted by so many that state thier opinions on dinar sites
 
SQ: Wiley can you clarify what is the group name at this time, many have said it changed from Generals64 to WF Group.
 
W: others will twist it when the send it on, I am no rookie in that venture. No worries tell it straight and you have nothing to worry aobut it reside on theose that want to skew in thier favor
 
it is all symantics, what does it matter what we are called really just as long as we are called. For the time being we have just beeen called THE GROUP, stopped us WF group and G64
 
C: Wiley: do you feel the ' gurus' are told to pump us up every day with bank stories, etc? Because at least every week we are told that someone else has exchanged. It never made any sense to me that some average person would be called into a bank and given USD for all of their currencies. It sounds like it has all been lies.
 
W most of that comes from dealers pay someone under the table to gin up thier currency sales I am sorry to say
 
SQ: I would like clarification between your group and the internet group whom is not registered.
 
W: there is no internet group, if so how are all these people to be notified. OH the 800 number, that is already on every banks website right now. This is the power of suggestion being used on many when everyone tried building a group and found out it was not as easy as what people think. When many fell short they started the attacks on the group itself
 
SQ you been at this for awhile you can speak to most all of this. You have seen the gurus come and go
 
SQ: Yes I have Wiley, I know all you have said to be TRUE but many rather hear a pretty lie than the REAL TRUTH as you and I know it.
 
W: truth is not always popular
 
SQ: But we have seen what lies have done to many families as well.
 
C: Wiley have you heard if the US is secretly asset backed behind the curtains?
 
W: dale, I hear it but seen no proof to those assertions by others
 
I have been hearing that same thing for years, but not once have I seen physical documentation to back any of that up. We have to work with facts, when we do not we are not in a position to debate things intelligently
 
I have said it many times - a RANGER never lies, never quits and never leaves a man on the battlefielf
 
(How many in the group?)
W: Hundreds of thousands.   I do not have the exact count
 
this is more like a 401K, invest and wait for the investment to mature. Watching daily is what makes it hard, yet we have all been guilty of it including myself. No one will be left out knowing when it happens, everyone will be saying it, not just a few here and there but everyone.
 
B: Now that is about the dumbest statement I've heard all night.  Watch you 401K grow?  How about watch your 401 DISSOLVE?  No disrespect, but seriously
 
W: understand many are losing money in their 401's but that is due to policy and economics, same thing as the dinar
 
C: Wiley...is there any hope out there that we could see this happen in 2016?
 
W: I honestly do not have the answer for that and no one on the boards does either. That information is held so close. Imagine if it went out what the speculators would do to the dinar.
 
the Swiss broke away from the Euro and no one knew until it happened. The VND devalued 3 times and no one knew it until after it happened. It will never be posted before it happens, it will happen and then others work from those changes.
 
the bank memos are misdirection, sure the bank got memo's about currencies, but those memo's from corpaorate only tell the currency exchange department to double check thier transactions cause the overnight changes have taken place. Bank is not in business to lose money on the wrong rates.
 
C: Wiley is the Zim really a bond,because the paper its on?
W: my printer paper is bond paper, ridiculous statement and yes I know where it came from
do not let them us terminology to confuse
 
you have weathered alot. I do talk to those that have been at this far longer than me. Those that were the lawyers for Wanta and other hearings
 
Wiley: I am not asking everyone to believe me blindly, go and read what we as a group have been posting for over 6 years. IT is that same then as it is today
 
ask those that attended the meetings in Kansas City for over 3 years before we stopped. the bankers and others were brought in to talk to the currency holders directly so they could hear it for themselves and not through us.
 
how is it that when we talk to the same banks that many of others do we do not hear what they are hearing and yet we put a business deal together with them,
 
 
Gail: F Y I - I have from a Very close source that ""Wiley Morgan"" Is NOT Running gen64 He Is NOT in charge Of anything to do with Gen64 - There upper management that are very PO because of his attempt to usurp authority

roxy22222222 wrote:

Code:

You assume Pam left because of all the stories you came up with, but have no clue the real reason she disappeared quickly. The legal things that were put in place that caused her to vanish a hour after it was delivered you have no clue about. You all think this is all fun and games, you post peoples names,

Pam  left because her personal data was put out there. She also left because people found out about all the lying and scamming her and Tony were doing. She was making a huge profit off all those donations, got scared, and ran like hell. People needed to be woken up. Pam was another MLM pro. She was afraid to being investigated, period.

Ssmith wrote:"They"?  Would you be gracious enough to share who they are?

RamblerNash wrote:

roxy22222222 wrote:

Code:

You assume Pam left because of all the stories you came up with, but have no clue the real reason she disappeared quickly. The legal things that were put in place that caused her to vanish a hour after it was delivered you have no clue about. You all think this is all fun and games, you post peoples names,

Pam  left because her personal data was put out there. She also left because people found out about all the lying and scamming her and Tony were doing. She was making a huge profit off all those donations, got scared, and ran like hell. People needed to be woken up. Pam was another MLM pro. She was afraid to being investigated, period.

Is Ray still saying she is still to busy to come on the calls because she is too busy shopping?

TRADE wrote:

RamblerNash wrote:

roxy22222222 wrote:

Code:

You assume Pam left because of all the stories you came up with, but have no clue the real reason she disappeared quickly. The legal things that were put in place that caused her to vanish a hour after it was delivered you have no clue about. You all think this is all fun and games, you post peoples names,

Pam  left because her personal data was put out there. She also left because people found out about all the lying and scamming her and Tony were doing. She was making a huge profit off all those donations, got scared, and ran like hell. People needed to be woken up. Pam was another MLM pro. She was afraid to being investigated, period.

Is Ray still saying she is still to busy to come on the calls because she is too busy shopping?

She had legal papers served to her. That's why she disappeared.

 

Ssmith wrote:

 
Gail: F Y I - I have from a Very close source that ""Wiley Morgan"" Is NOT Running gen64 He Is NOT in charge Of anything to do with Gen64 - There upper management that are very PO because of his attempt to usurp authority

Gail....  If you're out there, we'd love to hear more from you.

TRADE wrote:

Ssmith wrote:"They"?  Would you be gracious enough to share who they are?

WM, not dealing with the constant false info being put out by others and people that think they know things

TNTBS wrote:OK here I'LL Show you Something Very Disturbing ...TO ME! I track every single link and it's called the backdoor link given to me by Nick at Global currency
The pics are mine I've had them for yrs now 

TRADE wrote:

RamblerNash wrote:

roxy22222222 wrote:

Code:

You assume Pam left because of all the stories you came up with, but have no clue the real reason she disappeared quickly. The legal things that were put in place that caused her to vanish a hour after it was delivered you have no clue about. You all think this is all fun and games, you post peoples names,

Pam  left because her personal data was put out there. She also left because people found out about all the lying and scamming her and Tony were doing. She was making a huge profit off all those donations, got scared, and ran like hell. People needed to be woken up. Pam was another MLM pro. She was afraid to being investigated, period.

Is Ray still saying she is still to busy to come on the calls because she is too busy shopping?

She had legal papers served to her. That's why she disappeared.

Ssmith wrote:Don't worry, Trade.  We've got your back and won't let any harm come to you.


But on another subject, have you heard the good news about the RV that Okie put out earlier?  Has the "curator" of the WF/Gen64/KCIQD, etc. team received any info about when we can expect our emails containing the 800#'s.  Thanks!!!

TRADE wrote:

Ssmith wrote:Don't worry, Trade.  We've got your back and won't let any harm come to you.


But on another subject, have you heard the good news about the RV that Okie put out earlier?  Has the "curator" of the WF/Gen64/KCIQD, etc. team received any info about when we can expect our emails containing the 800#'s.  Thanks!!!

Okie is so full of crap, he has no clue about anything. He is putting out BS rumors. There is nothing going on, no expectations, no communications, nothing going on at all. These people are ridiculous trying to play with peoples emotions.

Chaz wrote:This is for Trade, YEP IT REALLY MAKES YOUR GENERAL 64 GROUP look good doesn't it,? More lying than ever before,what are you going to do now sir,stand by & let theses
 lying thieves give you more of a bad name? Where do you stand Trade?
   Sincerely blessings Charles

RamblerNash wrote:

Hey TRADE...Can you explain the bank codes that "The Group" is going to be sending out?

RamblerNash wrote:

Chaz wrote:This is for Trade, YEP IT REALLY MAKES YOUR GENERAL 64 GROUP look good doesn't it,? More lying than ever before,what are you going to do now sir,stand by & let theses
 lying thieves give you more of a bad name? Where do you stand Trade?
   Sincerely blessings Charles

https://www.dinardaily.net/t54789-wingit-jerseyboy-posts-okie-confirmation-from-elmer-military-base-transactions-started

TRADE wrote:

RamblerNash wrote:

Hey TRADE...Can you explain the bank codes that "The Group" is going to be sending out?

Can you please explain where you came by that info.

TNTBS wrote:The best way to solve this (He said/She said)? is to let the FEDS figure out just who is what where & when, I'll contact some of my friends @ Federal trades commission FCC as well including CNBC investigative Reports Andrea Day to look into this on WM aka Richard M. & Gen64 That should clean up issues pretty FAST! 


By: TNTBS

TRADE wrote:

TNTBS wrote:The best way to solve this (He said/She said)? is to let the FEDS figure out just who is what where & when, I'll contact some of my friends @ Federal trades commission FCC as well including CNBC investigative Reports Andrea Day to look into this on WM aka Richard M. & Gen64 That should clean up issues pretty FAST! 


By: TNTBS

Great, then it will finally come to a end. One day of research which you apparently not done your self, will completely clear the situation up. You can also check the media reports with the foundations he is involved with, they will find out all good things about him and then it will be a dead issue.

Purpleskyz wrote:Trade

What is your affiliation with the Financial Prosperity Club?

GypZ wrote:Who is the hunter of the guru Hunter ???watch a guy is coming !

TRADE wrote:

TRADE wrote:

RamblerNash wrote:

Hey TRADE...Can you explain the bank codes that "The Group" is going to be sending out?

Can you please explain where you came by that info.

Oh I bet I know, your following dinarland, good choice of your time use. Now who is it that is coming up with codes and all, who are you trying to tie to the group now.

TRADE wrote:

RamblerNash wrote:

Hey TRADE...Can you explain the bank codes that "The Group" is going to be sending out?

Can you please explain where you came by that info.

Purpleskyz wrote:Really?

That is interesting because they seem to think that Gen64 will be handling some of their cash outs. At least that is what the email I read stated. You see a few of their members sent me some of the confidential memos they send out. Very interesting. Here is their link and homepage in case that may jog your memory.

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TRADE wrote:

TRADE wrote:

RamblerNash wrote:

Hey TRADE...Can you explain the bank codes that "The Group" is going to be sending out?

Can you please explain where you came by that info.

Oh I bet I know, your following dinarland, good choice of your time use. Now who is it that is coming up with codes and all, who are you trying to tie to the group now.

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