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TNT Member Attempts Suicide
Yesterday Rocky1boo posted their experience at a WF bank.
Went to a wf branch and asked if they had a investment package. They sent me to a banker who aked what kind of money was I going to invest with. I told HER MILLIONS. THEN THE WEALTH MANAGER CAME IN AND SAID IF IT IS THE DANAR WF WILL NOT HELP ME AND ALSO SAID SHE HAS WATCHED THE DANAR FOR 16 YEARS AND SHE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HELP WITH WORTHLESS CURRENCY...NEVER DID GET THE PACKAGE I CAME IN FOR. TOLD HER I WAS GOING TO OTHER BANKS AND SHE SAID THAT WOULD BE A WASTE OF TIME. I TOLD HER I WOULD SEE HER SOON
Rocky1boo received a lot of grief from a few people for putting out such a depressing post, etc. Then this was posted:
sully2781
Your post depressed someone I knew. His wife found him in bathtub. He had slit his wrists. Just thought you should know how fragile some people are before you go posting depressing or made up stories.
BTW. She caught him in time. He is a member here. He is in hospital now.
Why does everyone blame Rocky1boo for this? Why in the Hell doesn't someone put the blame where it rightly belongs? On Tony and the rest of the gurus who have been scamming people for years now!
Went to a wf branch and asked if they had a investment package. They sent me to a banker who aked what kind of money was I going to invest with. I told HER MILLIONS. THEN THE WEALTH MANAGER CAME IN AND SAID IF IT IS THE DANAR WF WILL NOT HELP ME AND ALSO SAID SHE HAS WATCHED THE DANAR FOR 16 YEARS AND SHE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO HELP WITH WORTHLESS CURRENCY...NEVER DID GET THE PACKAGE I CAME IN FOR. TOLD HER I WAS GOING TO OTHER BANKS AND SHE SAID THAT WOULD BE A WASTE OF TIME. I TOLD HER I WOULD SEE HER SOON
Rocky1boo received a lot of grief from a few people for putting out such a depressing post, etc. Then this was posted:
sully2781
Your post depressed someone I knew. His wife found him in bathtub. He had slit his wrists. Just thought you should know how fragile some people are before you go posting depressing or made up stories.
BTW. She caught him in time. He is a member here. He is in hospital now.
Why does everyone blame Rocky1boo for this? Why in the Hell doesn't someone put the blame where it rightly belongs? On Tony and the rest of the gurus who have been scamming people for years now!
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Rocky1boo should not be taking the blame for this. There have been MANY posts where people have said that bankers poo poo the customers that talk about dinar. I would say that the guy has just had his fill of hype and hopium and reality was setting in and he realized that he has been lied to all these years. It was just bad timing that Rocky1boo had posted that post at that time. I would say that the man would have attempted it anyways.
Sadly, I think the dinar dream has taken many lives that we do not even know about. I wish this would all just end.
Sadly, I think the dinar dream has taken many lives that we do not even know about. I wish this would all just end.
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OMG ARE YOU F'IN KIDDING ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RRRRRRRRRRR I HOPE YOU READ THIS AND ARE PROUD OF YOURSELF FOR SUPPORTING A SITE LIKE THAT. I MY EYES YOU ARE JUST AS MUCH AT FAULT FOR KEEPING THE LIES GOING. HOW IN THE HELL DO YA'LL EVEN SLEEP AT NIGHT. ALL OF THE TNT PEOPLE NEED HELP!
RRRRRRRRRRR I HOPE YOU READ THIS AND ARE PROUD OF YOURSELF FOR SUPPORTING A SITE LIKE THAT. I MY EYES YOU ARE JUST AS MUCH AT FAULT FOR KEEPING THE LIES GOING. HOW IN THE HELL DO YA'LL EVEN SLEEP AT NIGHT. ALL OF THE TNT PEOPLE NEED HELP!
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Ponee wrote:Rocky1boo should not be taking the blame for this. There have been MANY posts where people have said that bankers poo poo the customers that talk about dinar. I would say that the guy has just had his fill of hype and hopium and reality was setting in and he realized that he has been lied to all these years. It was just bad timing that Rocky1boo had posted that post at that time. I would say that the man would have attempted it anyways.
Sadly, I think the dinar dream has taken many lives that we do not even know about. I wish this would all just end.
AND THIS IS WHY I DO WHAT I DO AND TRY TO EXPOSE AS MANY PEOPLE TO THE POOROO LIES, SO HOPEFULLY NOT SO MANY WILL GET HURT.
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In Nov of 2013 I talked to a lady after Thanksgiving when Tony was saying it would never go past black Fri. This lady was waiting on the RV so she could go to a renowned cancer inst in Sweden. I hope I got through to her about getting the best care she could here but I wonder how many people died from diseases waiting on this fairy tale.
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Here's an example of the cavalier attitude expressed over at TNT. The thread isn't even getting any notice. They're just chatting about when the RV is going to arrive and how good the Tony Robbins book is.
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He attempted suicide because of a post on an internet board??? Somehow, I think he was pretty bad off before he saw the post...
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He attempted suicide because of a post on an internet board??? Somehow, I think he was pretty bad off before he saw the post...
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And NOW you see why I've been hell-bent on exposing the fraud, lies & deceit of the guru community for several years - not only with math, fundamental economic principles and history, but by their own words. This is a perfect example. When smarmy Dinarians ask, 'Why do you even care what people do with their money?" just remind them of this instance. I will not cease until Renfrow and his gang of deceitful cohorts are reduced to 3 hots and a cot. He's the Kingpin of Guru Fraud - once he returns to prison (notice I said, 'returns,' because he's already served time for fraud), the sham will unravel in rapid fashion. People like Elmer, RRRRR, Martha, Blackjack are complicit, and will be held culpable for perpetuating these lies - if not in this world, certainly the next. Ye shall reap what ye have sown.
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I do it more for the children of these irresponsible people more than anything else, while I do have feelings for those caught up in this the fact is they are supposedly adults and are only suffering the consequences of their own actions, consequences mostly of allowing greed to over-ride common sense. I can easily understand how people get caught up in this, especially in the early days, but what I fail to understand, and have no pity for, are those that continue to argue in support of the scam even after being told the irrefutable truth. Besides that it's almost impossible for me to have much sympathy for anyone who would follow the likes of Tony!
The children are a different story, they have no choice in this and are at the mercy of their parents' irresponsible (or just plain stupid!) actions. I have seen this personally, children in need of even the basics, living in run down conditions and missing out on a lot of the things other children have. It's so heartbreaking to hear these kids talk of how much better things are going to be because they of course innocently trust what their parents have told them but we all know that disappointment is what really awaits them. I am saying this with one particular family in mind but what's really sad is I know that these people and that little girl are not even the tip of the iceberg and this is extremely likely to be playing out thousands of times across the country. Yeah, I can have pity for people like the one who decided to kill himself due to the despair but to be honest it's damn little pity for anyone who has chosen to remain in this scam after all the exposure it's gotten in the last couple of years!
I get so damned mad just talking about those kids and nothing would give more pleasure than to just choke the living crap out of the S-O-B's like Tony that have perpetuated this misery generating scam! I don't know what's taking so long but locking his lying butt in the slammer just can't come soon enough to suit me, I just hope that the rest of them are soon to follow!
The children are a different story, they have no choice in this and are at the mercy of their parents' irresponsible (or just plain stupid!) actions. I have seen this personally, children in need of even the basics, living in run down conditions and missing out on a lot of the things other children have. It's so heartbreaking to hear these kids talk of how much better things are going to be because they of course innocently trust what their parents have told them but we all know that disappointment is what really awaits them. I am saying this with one particular family in mind but what's really sad is I know that these people and that little girl are not even the tip of the iceberg and this is extremely likely to be playing out thousands of times across the country. Yeah, I can have pity for people like the one who decided to kill himself due to the despair but to be honest it's damn little pity for anyone who has chosen to remain in this scam after all the exposure it's gotten in the last couple of years!
I get so damned mad just talking about those kids and nothing would give more pleasure than to just choke the living crap out of the S-O-B's like Tony that have perpetuated this misery generating scam! I don't know what's taking so long but locking his lying butt in the slammer just can't come soon enough to suit me, I just hope that the rest of them are soon to follow!
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lmao!
So an unstable man slits his wrists and it is blamed on dinar? dinar boards? TNT? rrrrr?
Think people!!! Unstable people kill themselves every single day. People who life has beaten down, people that make BAD choices! People that have just had enough.
Placing BLAME on anyone or anything besides the person that made the BAD choice to off themselves is ridiculously absurd!!!
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Let the DA know about the damage Tony is doing. This will damn sure impact the PSI report.
People awaiting sentencing are supposed to be keeping their noses clean. Tony has people slitting their wrists!
Scott.Rask@usdoj.gov
People awaiting sentencing are supposed to be keeping their noses clean. Tony has people slitting their wrists!
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YES HE WAS APPARENTLY UNSTABLE, BUT I ALSO CAN SEE HOW PUTTING ALL YOUR HOPES INTO WHAT A PERSON IS SAYING THAT HAPPENS TO BE LIES CAN BE THE CHEERY ON TOP OF YOUR BREAKING.
WONDER IF SULLY2781 THOUGHT THAT MAYBE HIS POSTED RESPONSE COULD BE ROCKY1BOO'S CHERRY ON THE TOP AND MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE HURTING HER/HIMSELF?
WONDER IF SULLY2781 THOUGHT THAT MAYBE HIS POSTED RESPONSE COULD BE ROCKY1BOO'S CHERRY ON THE TOP AND MAKE THEM FEEL LIKE HURTING HER/HIMSELF?
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Obviously, being a member of TNT, thinking is not a strong suit for Sully, so likely not.....
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Kevind53 wrote:Obviously, being a member of TNT, thinking is not a strong suit for Sully, so likely not.....
For sure, ANYONE who is a member of TNT and falls for Tony's BS would have to be mentally unstable, obviously no sane person could actually believe any of that nonsense!
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I am so sad to read this thread.
Ponee can you please change the background from black?
Ponee can you please change the background from black?
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TNT just took down the post!
ERROR: The topic that you are attempting to view was not found.
ERROR: The topic that you are attempting to view was not found.
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ssmith wrote:TNT just took down the post!
ERROR: The topic that you are attempting to view was not found.
Of course they took it down!
They don't want anyone to think that they had any responsibility for it.
https://www.dinardaily.net/t46462-how-mind-manipulation-is-used-for-influence-and-control
https://www.dinardaily.net/t46439-cult-mentality-tnt-tony-the-leader-of-the-pack-and-pam
https://www.dinardaily.net/t46384-cult-behaviour-tony-renfrow
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If anyone wants to send the DA in KC an email to let him know about the lies Tony is telling to people.....Here it is.
Scott.Rask@usdoj.gov
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ssmith wrote:If anyone wants to send the DA in KC an email to let him know about the lies Tony is telling to people.....Here it is.
Scott.Rask@usdoj.gov
They can always call too.
Prosecuting US Attorneys office Scott Rask (913)551-6730
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Think of all the other victims of Tony Renfrow we don't hear about!
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I think about this person periodically and wonder how they are doing. I hope they, and others like them, have gotten the help they so desperately need.
Tony might be in prison, but there are still many others putting out blatant lies about an imminent revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar, Dong, Rupiah and Zim. Unfortunately there are many people who have staked everything they have on this.
Private forums like TNT, WSOMN, WingIt, etc. will ban a member if they as much as question the validity of a statement made by a Guru. There are a few open Dinar forums, such as Dinar Daily, that allow readers to comment on the latest "intel" from a guru.
But other than here at Dinar Daily, what other Dinar website allows both pro and con comments to be posted? I'm not talking about posts that are bashing, cursing, etc...... I'm talking allowing both sides to be presented. It seems that not allowing that is doing Dinarians a grave disservice. For years Dinarland has fed people almost a 100% diet of nothing but "Hopium". Marriages breaking up, families fractured, suicide attempts, financial ruin has been the result.
Do these websites owners have a conscience? Are getting commissions from currency dealers, conference call kickbacks, revenue from ads on websites really worth it when you think the damage that is being done to people?
Regardless if it comes from a guru or the owner of a "positive comment only" Dinar forum/website, the results are the same. Or am I missing something here?
Tony might be in prison, but there are still many others putting out blatant lies about an imminent revaluation of the Iraqi Dinar, Dong, Rupiah and Zim. Unfortunately there are many people who have staked everything they have on this.
Private forums like TNT, WSOMN, WingIt, etc. will ban a member if they as much as question the validity of a statement made by a Guru. There are a few open Dinar forums, such as Dinar Daily, that allow readers to comment on the latest "intel" from a guru.
But other than here at Dinar Daily, what other Dinar website allows both pro and con comments to be posted? I'm not talking about posts that are bashing, cursing, etc...... I'm talking allowing both sides to be presented. It seems that not allowing that is doing Dinarians a grave disservice. For years Dinarland has fed people almost a 100% diet of nothing but "Hopium". Marriages breaking up, families fractured, suicide attempts, financial ruin has been the result.
Do these websites owners have a conscience? Are getting commissions from currency dealers, conference call kickbacks, revenue from ads on websites really worth it when you think the damage that is being done to people?
Regardless if it comes from a guru or the owner of a "positive comment only" Dinar forum/website, the results are the same. Or am I missing something here?
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remember as useless as these slimeballs are did they hold a gun to there head and make them buy dinar dong or zim . the majority bought these currency out of greed thinking they could make a fast dollar with out a clue of what they were investing in/ sorry to say this but its the truth. the dinar is not a scam. its a worthless currency but everything else around it is a scam.
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Jayzze wrote:remember as useless as these slimeballs are did they hold a gun to there head and make them buy dinar dong or zim . the majority bought these currency out of greed thinking they could make a fast dollar with out a clue of what they were investing in/ sorry to say this but its the truth. the dinar is not a scam. its a worthless currency but everything else around it is a scam.
You're right, Dinar, etc. are valid currencies. No one forced anyone to purchase Dinar, Dong, Zim, Rupiah, etc. Greed was part of it, but gullibility and naivety was too. My issue is the way it was marketed and sold to people that, for the most part, didn't have a clue about how investing in foreign currency works. These weren't seasoned investors. It's one thing to spend a few dollars, but many people spent much more than a few hundred. There were people that were investing their retirement savings, buying more currency instead of paying bills because they were told the RV was happening second now. Not to mention all the money lost on various reserve programs.
Statements on dealers websites stating that IQD was projected to increase back to in the $3 range, etc. Gurus sprung up everywhere preying on the gullible/uneducated/greedy investors. Some gurus had their boots on the ground contacts in Iraq. Other gurus came from a religious perspective - this was a blessing from God. Gurus had their own websites - some were free, others had a monthly membership fee. There were expensive VIP programs to join, you could pay for a text service to alert you when the RV happened. There were post RV parties being planned in San Francisco and other areas. Of course you had to send in $25 (or whatever the amount was) to reserve your place. Other websites started that would recap the latest intel from the gurus.
These scammers found their target audience and developed, for lack of a better term, a cult. No negative talk was allowed, but hopium was encouraged and flowed freely.... as did money into their bank accounts from currency dealer kickbacks, the sales of their various services, memberships and revenue from advertisements on their websites.
So many people have been hurt and lives impacted from this. The promoters/website owners need to be held accountable and stopped. Once that happens the currency dealers will shut their doors, because the number of victims they have to prey upon will be reduced.
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you NAILED it Ssmith!!!
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I still get lost people telling me Wells Fargo will exchange dinar, obviously these people need help, serious help.
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s smith you are correct three yrs ago i posted on this site a friend who also killed himself. instead of paying his house and car every month he would buy dinar dong etc we all advised him not to. but the gurus were right and we were wrong and stated he would be a billionaire. the dinar the way the gurus play is similar to a pryamid deal where you do have a product but thats it. in all of these they prey on your emotions and usually your financial status and sucker you in but greed is always the main motavier
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That's horribly sad.... to feel that there is no way out other than to end your life. Granted it was him making the decisions that got him in that position, but if it were not for the gurus pumping Dinar and other currencies I wonder if he (and others like him) would have gotten so far in over their head.
It just struck me the similarities between drug dealers and currency dealers/gurus/websites.
Neither a drug dealer, currency dealer, guru or a website that Recaps the latest "intel" force anyone to purchase or read their product. But all of them present their product in an attractive manner. A drug dealer may tell you this is a really good stuff, but strong, so don't do too much or it could be bad. A guru may tell you not to purchase any more currency than you can afford. A website that Recaps the latest intel may have a disclaimer saying they do not endorse, support, represent or guarantee the completeness, truthfulness, accuracy, or reliability of any content or communications posted and their site is merely for informational/entertainment purposes.
But all of them.... the drug dealer, currency dealer, guru and websites that Recap the intel, know their respective customer base and their weakness towards the product. That product could be heroin or hopium. Really, what's the difference to an addict? Look at these two posts made today from WingIt members:
These are Dinar addicts. They are junkies - just the same as if they were hooked on heroin. How do people like these end up? Families destroyed, broke, homeless, living in their car (if they still have one) and some end up dead.
Is there really any difference between drug dealers and currency dealers/gurus/websites that Recap intel? I don't see any. The end result of what they do seems to be the same: Destroyed lives.
It just struck me the similarities between drug dealers and currency dealers/gurus/websites.
Neither a drug dealer, currency dealer, guru or a website that Recaps the latest "intel" force anyone to purchase or read their product. But all of them present their product in an attractive manner. A drug dealer may tell you this is a really good stuff, but strong, so don't do too much or it could be bad. A guru may tell you not to purchase any more currency than you can afford. A website that Recaps the latest intel may have a disclaimer saying they do not endorse, support, represent or guarantee the completeness, truthfulness, accuracy, or reliability of any content or communications posted and their site is merely for informational/entertainment purposes.
But all of them.... the drug dealer, currency dealer, guru and websites that Recap the intel, know their respective customer base and their weakness towards the product. That product could be heroin or hopium. Really, what's the difference to an addict? Look at these two posts made today from WingIt members:
crazymonkeyluv wrote 3m ago | where are gerry, bep, and imperium today. need some good intel! |
journey wrote 2m ago | crazymonkey: I know. I hate the weekend with no calls or info! I'm having withdrawels...Back to organining... |
These are Dinar addicts. They are junkies - just the same as if they were hooked on heroin. How do people like these end up? Families destroyed, broke, homeless, living in their car (if they still have one) and some end up dead.
Is there really any difference between drug dealers and currency dealers/gurus/websites that Recap intel? I don't see any. The end result of what they do seems to be the same: Destroyed lives.
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these people are addicts of sort they devote there whole life to finding the pot of g old at the end of the rainbow based on lies and deception
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Wonder if this person read a post at DINAR RECAPS just prior to SLITTING Their WRISTS?
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That snarky POS Rayren whistles and smacks his way through three episodes a week, giggling under his breath as he pounds out the never ending lie.
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this is a perfect example for the gurubusters to get the green light to expand
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I wonder if Becky McGee/Oootah has any blood on her chubby hands???
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