Soooo, what ever happened to Fantastic Foundations?

I WILL BE WORKING WITH DAZ, TONY AND DC AMONG OTHERS POST RV TO MAKE SURE IT IS DONE RIGHT AND YOU ALL HAVE ACCESS TO CHARITABLE FOUNDATIONS AND INFO THAT YOU CAN TRUST AND USE

PLEASE SEND YOUR FOUNDATIONS (MUST BE RUN EFFICIENTLY! ETC.) TO THE EMAIL ADDRESS

WE WILL HAVE A TEAM TO RESEARCH THEM


THANK YOU KIM....WE WILL NEED ALL THE HELP WE CAN GET TO GET STARTED BUT I CAN POST SOME OF THAT STUFF THERE NOW

YOU KNOW ME WELL ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT IT WILL BE DONE RIGHT OR NOT AT ALL

PAM....nice start to the website.....

DON'T FORGET ABOUT KIESHA'S KIDS THAT WILL BE SET UP .... IT WILL BE LINKED TO THE FantasticFoundations.com WEBSITE ALSO

PLEASE SEND YOUR FOUNDATIONS (MUST BE RUN EFFICIENTLY! ETC.) TO THE EMAIL ADDRESS

Marty, you just can't explain things or reason with a grapefruit-...... Good to see you, 'ol chum!!

WHAT TNT Scam ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT..
 

emhrn#1 wrote:WHAT TNT Scam ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT..
 

Probably talking about how he makes money off telling lies.

MartyM wrote:Exactly my point, What SCAM ??   There is none. This is just more inuendo BS...

@MaryM, do you believe Tony?

On the other hand do you really want to trust a convicted fraudster currently under indictment for fraud once again or any of his associates to give you advise on what charities to donate to, or anything else for that matter.

MartyM wrote:That's a Very vague Question...  Do I believe every word Tony says?  Of course not, any more than what is said about him. The presumption of a "TNT Scam" is erronious and unfounded, unless anyone here has substantiated and verifyable evidence to back it up. Just like the statement above by  FS4Enthusiast, "Probably talking about how he makes money off telling lies". Nothing offered to substantiate the allogation...
  Let's face it, no one, be it 'Guru' or 'Bashers' has any kind of track record when it comes to accuracy.

He's a convicted felon, currently indicted for fraud, and nothing he's ever said has come true. What more substantiation do you want?

Not sure what you mean by bashers, but the people saying the RV isn't going to happen have a 100% accurate track record.

But only until it does... then that track record goes out the window. I cannot prove that there will be an RV, anymore than anyone can prove there wont. 
  Yes, I choose to believe based on what I've learned, that this will indeed become a viable investment. Those who wish to believe otherwise certainly have my blessings to do so. I do not however go around slaming others that I may dissagree with. I only slam what it is, the subject matter, of the dissagreement.

MartyM wrote:I cannot prove that there will be an RV, anymore than anyone can prove there wont.

I would say that there's plenty of proof that there won't. The tens of trillions of dinar that Iraq has printed being one of the primary pieces of evidence.

I've yet to see any evidence that it will. Not only have I not seen any evidence, I haven't ever even seen someone outline a valid mechanism where it would even be possible.

I slam those who are obvious liars and charlatans, which is to say most of the Guru types. Most have called the RV multiple times, or have been saying any second now for years, tossing out dates and then blaming some nebulous, unverifiable act or even when it did not happen. I have no patience for their like, either stringing along and misleading people in a deliberate manner for some sort of personal gain or incredibly stupid. Others like Kap I may not agree with, but do not see them as using people, so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt.

emhrn#1 wrote:WHAT TNT Scam ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT..
 

WHICH TNT scam might have been a better question to ask. 

Tony is a convicted felon and about to go to court on the 14DailyPlus scam he ran.  Read the indictment:  http://www.scribd.com/doc/204935640/Federal-Indictment-of-Anthony-TNT-Tony-Renfrow

He solicits donations from the TNT members to run his forum & pay for his conference calls.  Never has he shown a bill nor shown an accounting of the $$$'s collected.

Now he is starting a new website supposedly to have a list of charitable foundations to invest in after a nonexistent RV happens.  Why is he doing this?  My guess is to collect info from people to sell.

Tony is a phony as a three dollar bill.  All he care about is making money and doesn't care who he hurts in the process.  How do I know this?  All I have to do is look at his track record and how he operates.

Boy, I can't remember when I've had this much fun in a loooooong time. Good night all.

Comment from Ohmaui & response from Daz (TNT mod):

Your intent is noble yet, with any new venture or idea, it must be evaluated for its feasibility before thinking it is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Sorry for the objective, critical tone, but this is my business part of my mind expressing itself.

So how will this site be different than CharityNavigator.com ? Is it intended primarily for Dinarians post RV?

Your site so far states that you will list some of "your favorite charities". Unless there is objective non biased evaluation of various charities, people will want to know who are the people behind the website who are choosing their favorites. There are so many different causes to donate to. You may want to consider focusing on a core group otherwise, unless you include most all of the various categories, you may be perceived as exclusionary.

So my point is, unless the site intends to do something unique and different than charity navigator, you may be reinventing the wheel. 

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WE APPRECIATE ANY CRITIQUE BUT, ITS IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THE SITE IS NOT INTENDED TO COMPETE WITH OTHER SITES, DRIVE VIEWERSHIP, CREATE REVENUES FROM VISITATION, AD SALES, CONTRIBUTIONS OR DONATIONS..... OR WIN ANYTHING.

THE SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE USER SUBMISSIONS AND WE WOULD, GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY, COLLABORATE TO SOME DEGREE WITH NAVIGATOR AND POSSIBLY DOZENS OF OTHER SITES COOPERATIVELY TO VET THOSE SUGGESTIONS OR PROVIDE A MECHANISM THAT USERS COULD EXERCISE THEIR OWN DUE DILIGENCE TO QUALIFY THEM.

I DONT THINK I/WE EVER SUGGESTED OR, INTENDED TO SUGGEST, ANY RECOMMENDATIONS OR SELECTIONS BE MADE INTERNALLY. AND, ANY EXCLUSIONS, IF THEY WERE TO MANIFEST, WOULD BE BASED ON REDUNDANT THIRD-PARTY DISQUALIFICATION DUE TO COMMON SENSE CRITERIA LIKE FISCAL EFFICIENCY, EFFECTIVENESS, MANAGEMENT, ADMINISTRATIVE OVERHEAD ETC.

NO ONE WANTS TO REINVENT THE WHEEL HERE AND THERE ARE EXPERIENCED TEAMS AND ORGANIZATIONS AT THIS TIME THAT ARE CERTAINLY MORE QUALIFIED, FUNDED, STAFFED AND ORGANIZED TO BETTER MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS THAN WE CAN NOW IMAGINE FF TO BE.

THAT SAID ...IT COULD BE A GOOD JUMPING OFF POINT FOR MEMBERS, ASSOCIATES AND FAMILIAR RELATIONSHIPS TO CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE AND CARRY ON THE ALREADY SIGNIFICANT ESTABLISHED EFFORTS AND RELATIONSHIPS THAT HAVE EVOLVED THROUGH THIS PROCESS AND THE EDUCATION AND MOTIVATIONS THAT WE HAVE SHARED TO DATE.

OR WE MAY CONVERT IT TO A LEMONADE STAND AND HAVE A REFRESHING BEVERAGE AND SOME PIE.

MartyM. I think your missing the big picture when it comes to Tony. The man has a sheet as long as my arm for various fraud activities. He's done time, about to do more time and has gone from 1 scam to another his whole life. What makes you think thst this will be any different. A leopard can not change their spots...and that son of a bitch has made quite a tidy living off of taking money from other people through lies and deceit. PayPal kicked him off because he was doing shady stuff with donations, multiple conference call sites have kicked him off because of the bullshit the dishonest nature of his calls. What else do you need to prove that everything this guy is involved in is shady as hell?!?!?!?!


SSmith mentioned the donations to his website. I have a very close friend who works at GoDaddy, where Tonys sites are hosted...and I'll put it like this....with the donations he's been collecting his website should be paid for through about 2497. But yet every month there is a push because poor old Tony is stuck footing the bill to keep their little corner of the web alive out of the goodness of his heart. 

Tony and his minions are the dictionary definition of cultists. They prey upon the minds of the uneducated, sick, elderly and hard up and promise them paradise through explanations filled with nothing but mumbo jumbo. And when someone's brain actually kicks in...and they question the group...they are exiled for not believing in what their leader has to say.  Look at any of the great Cult leaders(and I use great in its loosest form possible), and I have due to my degree in abnormal/criminal Psychology....and Tony has taken the best/worst parts of all of them and made a living off of it, hell you could use Tony as a case study!!

I think you may have had a few sips of the koolaid Marty...either that or your faith in humanity is waaaayyyyyyy stronger than anyone who actually looks out of the window occasionally.

Has anything the Renfrow family ever done actually been legitimate?
14dailyplus
Rent my Credit
Bankruptcy once for Tony once for Tamara (wife)
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/directory/tony-renfrow

You forgot to mention brother Ray.  http://www.justice.gov/tax/RRenfrow_Order.pdf

Lest some forget or there are any newbies, let's review.


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