Please Help me Understand...........

Call me stupid, but How do people think Tony ad D.C. are making a lot of money off the TNT calls.  Do you think that a lot of people are sending donations? Are they getting paid by Sterling or are they Government disinformation people?  

Why would they lye  to us?

I think you mean " lie" not " lye" one is an untruth the other is used to deoderize out houses!
Come to think of it, both work when talking TNT.

So my question is, how do you think someone who must have a public defender at court can afford to smoke big cigars and spend his entire day on line or on a " intel call" ?
Making money conning lots of dumb people.
See, easy answer.

Well as a matter of fact we do. In just the last week, if even the majority of the people stating they donated really did, they made more than enough money to run the site for years. That is just in one week. So where do you suppose the rest of the money went? You see we actually have a clue as to how much a site like his takes to run. Oh by the way, Tony slipped a while back and admitted that he was working for Sterling and getting kickbacks. OH they came back and explained it all away, but the original post is here somewhere.

So I can't spell forgive me..I'm wanting to know from whom and
how Tony,
DC and Pam are getting paid. :rtyrty:

Does anyone believe there is actually going to be a RV.

Personally, I do, and a few others, but there are some here that don't think so- The choice to believe is yours- The ball is in your court, jus' sayin'-

Just think of it like this...who is going to invest as much time and effort as that group of people do...and get nothing out of it??? There's no way they can hold down regular jobs with as much as they are doing on their calls etc., so they have to be making the money somewhere!

Umm you had your answer ... perhaps you didn't see it, or chose not to see it.

First of all....  it's good to see you jeannedee777!

From where and in what amounts come the fund to pay these people I do not exactly know.  Donations, Ray paying off the 'group' for access to people for 'wealth retention seminars,' from dealers.  That's my assumption anyway.  And hey, I could very well be wrong!  (probably not as wrong as calling the RV multiple times per week for a year.  Then saying it RVed for everyone but you to add insult to injury)

I won't bore people with rehashing what others have said already other than to say that Tony does not strike me as a person who does things as charity.  That's my impression and opinion.  Others, including yourself may see things differently and perhaps see a kindler giving side to Tony.  I can respect that.

As far as the RV, I fully believe that at some point there will be a raise of exchange between the dinar and other currencies in the world.  I not only believe that it will eventually happen to some degree, I will admit that I NEED it to happen.  I WANT it to happen.  But I don't think for a moment that any increase is going to happen overnight or in the fashion that Tony, Goat, RV/GCR, JCR, Adam Montana, Okie, Exo, Vinman, DC, S3A, backdoc, zap, daz, or any of the other 'sudden wealth' promising hucksters would have you believe.

There is no 'empire.'  The US isn't holding the RV back.  The IMF isn't dictating terms for basel III or Article VII compliance.  The Chinese families aren't in control.  There are no purple pigs.  The PTB doesn't exist.  Historical Bond redemptions are a falsehood.  Prosperity packages are another falsehood.  There are no baskets.  The HCL is NOT done.  There are no riots in Iraq because the RV did or didn't happen in country (Tony goes back and forth on this)  They aren't blocking off roads and setting up PAs for the upcoming celebrations of the "RV."  The US Corporation doesn't exist.  You don't get a background check to exchange currency.  The US is not being fined for holding up the RV.  BRICS isn't replacing the dollar globally.  Iraqi TV isn't highlighting "Monetary Reform"  Winston has no idea what SERE school is supposed to teach you.  ISIS is not being kicked out of the third of Iraq it occupies today.  Iraq is not going to make their currency fiat by borrowing against it for the purposes of inflating the currency's value.  Vietnam isn't going to let the Dong swing in the wind for their value, tying it to the supposed Dinar revalue.  RI isn't the same as RV which isn't the same as MR which isn't the same as GCR which isn't the same as ER.  There is no 'oz.'  Warka bank isn't doing multiple currency accounts that you can just electronically buy dinar instead of going to a dealer for paper.  Having a 'trust' does not excuse you from paying taxes.  There is no 'contract rate.'  There is no "timber" or "WHOOOPOW"  There is no Vatican approved bread.

To believe any one of the lines being fed out trying to get you to buy more dinar before the opportunity is gone forever, you pretty much have to sign up for all of them.  I say that because no one guru can be pinned to any single one of those statements exclusively.  Most have hybrid stories that incorporate elements of most if not all.  If I can't trust them on the background of all of this, why would I trust them to be honest about whether they are getting money to do this?

Wouldn't you agree that all that two paragraphs up is a bit far fetched?  Do you really believe all of what I wrote to be false and all that stuff does exist?

So, no I don't have all the answers.  I do hope that all of the gurus get to go in and show their income to the IRS and have the IRS make sure they are paying the appropriate taxes and reporting all of their income properly.  As a taxpayer, I would be pissed if I had to pay taxes on my income and those people didn't.

Maybe they are honest.  I don't think so, but it could happen....

What do you think?

And seriously....   was good to read your postings

I'm sorry, I was not trying to make fun of your spelling. I thought the typo was just ironic.

jeannedee777 wrote:Why would they lye  to us?

This seems to me to be like asking "why are there bad people?"

There are lots of reasons that people lie. It's usually so that they can get something to their own advantage. But some people lie just because they enjoy hurting other people.

Tony Renfrow (TNT Tony) has been convicted of fraud in the past so it is clear that he does lie in order to make money. He is now facing similar charges.

After con men are exposed you often hear people saying things like

"But he was so convincing. He seemed so honest" etc. etc.

That is exactly how con men work. If they were not good at their work then no one would ever get fooled.

Tony... "There celebrating in the streets" LOL "it's done." LOL
He's just a liar and a joke.

Or a joking liar- He needs a life prison term-

I don't understand people at all... can they think for themselves...? if day in and day out, Tony calls for rv and it doesn't come to fruition.  It should have told them something is not right.  Can't they read the news..? or in fact they are all illeterate and can't read for themselves but still brain should be working unless it's like shrimp.  

Tony must be a great magician to make people in the lala land on his voice lol  truly.. people.. what a joke.. I am not worried now that they are duped and still holding to their dinar.. I am worried if this ever rv ever happens and this people like ox with nose ring, will give Tony their dinar and there goes Tony in hot air balloon.

Parts of me would like to believe that there's a running cycle of Prophet Tony followers, most of whom drop off at some point when they realize that he's going to call it every call and then it doesn't happen.  Every single time.

But that's being far too generous.   

I go back to an acquaintance that has followed this nut for years and still gets excited because it's really going to happen THIS time, according to the call.  I detect that she is disappointed when it doesn't happen, but believes that it's the fault of the PTB, not that Tony would lie.

I have a hard time understanding the phenomena.  Bizarre.

You can't make this stuff up

Hi jeannedee777,  I don't think you are stupid at all.  I completely agree with you.  Tony has quite a past.  Four years in the CA State pen for tax evasion/fraud and is currently under Federal Indictment for his role in the 14DailyPlus Scam.  Don't take a check from his wife either.  She has numerous bad check charges.  His brother, Ray, holds "Trust/Tax" Seminars all over the country for $495 per person (promotes them on Tony's forum.  Ray is also under Permanent Injunction in NC to never do tax prep or give tax advice.  Instead of taking my word for all of this, check out this website.  They have done a job of organizing court links for the Renfrow Crime Family Tree:  http://www.truthcall.com/tony.html


Now we've established Tony is a bad dude.  He's spent his life lying, cheating and stealing from others.  So how in the world would someone like this have the trust in high level government folks?  How would he be privy to top secret discussions between world leaders?  He's nothing more than a two bit conman. 



He promotes Sterling Currency group heavily in his phone calls and Frank from Sterling told TNTBS he was on the payroll.  TNTBS has put out several videos about Tony and his gang of criminals.  http://www.truthcall.com/tony.html  It doesn't make sense that Tony would spend six hours a week and have a big website just because he is a swell guy.  The figure tossed out by one of Tony's members is that $6800 was collected from the "Chatathon" that was recently held. 

Spend some time here at Dinar Daily and read through some of the previous postings.  There is a lot of good (and more often that not, just plain Funny) information.  Another sight I like is Dinar Douchbags.  He has bio's of the main gurus and a lot of economic articles on currency reform, especially the interviews he had with John Jagerson.  http://dinardouchebags.blogspot.com/p/dinar-douchebags-greatest-hits.html

Yes he does, in about a week if I remember right.

Maybe they will put him away this time, IF they are smart- We don't need him or the rest of those morons around anymore, anyway- He is of no good or use to himself, or anyone else for that matter-

I wish they would revoke his bond for continuing to defraud people while he is on trial for defrauding people.

Maybe the good judge will give us a nice Christmas present and lock him down finally.

It wouldn't hurt my feelings any-