It will not happen June 27th

So I have been watching, and listening, and researching .. sitting in the background, saddened that everyone keeps referring to the same old "guru hype"  With a date being thrown around - I went to verify.  Here' what I found.

Yes, on June 27th at 11:00 am there are "Consultations" about Iraq/Kuwait - but they are part of the scheduled "mandated" reviews - and this is June.  It is time for review.  But I bet we can all agree that it is NOT the Security Council that actually "lifts" the Chapter VIi - they give their reports to the UN.  http://www.un.org/en/sc/inc/pages/pdf/pow/powmonthly.pdf

The UN has on their agenda to include Iraq upon request of a member state - and with Kuwait making that request, Iraq will be included in the:

sixty-seventh session will convene at United Nations Headquarters on Tuesday, 18 September 2012, at 3 p.m.

The agenda for that meeting was put out 06/20/13.  http://www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=A/67/100

They are item 48 - info page 75:



Consequences of the Iraqi occupation of and aggression against Kuwait


The item entitled “Iraqi aggression and the continued occupation of Kuwait in



flagrant violation of the Charter of the United Nations” was included in the agenda



of the forty-fifth session of the General Assembly, in 1990, at the request of Kuwait



(A/45/233). At that session, the Assembly decided to retain the item on the agenda



of its forty-fifth session (decision 45/455).



At its forty-sixth session, the General Assembly decided to retain the item on the



agenda of that session under the new title “Consequences of the Iraqi occupation of



and aggression against Kuwait” and to include it in the provisional agenda of its



forty-seventh session (decision 46/475).



At its forty-seventh to fifty-eighth sessions, the General Assembly decided to defer



consideration of the item and to include it in the provisional agenda of its



subsequent session (decisions 47/477, 48/506, 49/503, 50/445, 51/434, 52/432,



53/427, 54/426, 55/432, 56/451, 57/520 and 58/514).



At its resumed fifty-eighth session, in July 2004, the General Assembly decided



that, with effect from the fifty-ninth session, the item should remain on the agenda







for consideration upon notification by a Member State (resolution 58/316, annex,



para. 4 (b)).



No advance documentation is expected.


References for the fifty-eighth session (agenda items 35 and 55)

Draft resolution A/58/L.66


Plenary meetings A/58/PV.69 and 92


Resolution 58/316


Decision 58/514

http://www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=A/67/100



So there you have it.  June 27th meeting is SOP (standard Operating Procedure) - it is the Programme of Work and Agenda of the 67th Session that will BEGIN on 18 September 2013.  (Begin because it lasts more than a few hours)


The Security Council cannot release then from Chapter VII and decide what Chap VI obligations will be - Only the United Nations...sorry folks.

It is unfortunate that once again there are people who are getting hyped, and  even more unfortunate they will bank on a "guru lie" before a solid members facts.  The only reason this hype has gotten as far as it has is because people want to believe - so bad that they spread what the guru's say to every site.  Man - if you don't have the guru postings you got "nuthin" - except now what everyone has is high expectations for this to happen in a few days - only to crash when it is over 30 days and still not here.

No "news" is no news.  Having an "honest" site without guru BS - now that would be news.....jmho

I have to disagree with you on this. My reading of the rules and of the sanctions leads me to believe that the UNSC are indeed the ones to release Iraq from the sanctions. They initiated them and they and only they have the authority to remove them. However, my contention all along has been that release from Chapter 7 is not a trigger for the RV. It is a sign of progress, and a matter of pride for the Iraqi people, but it is neither needed for nor connected to the RV. The economic part of the sanctions have been gone since 2010 anyway.

i do believe they will vote on the 27 even moon has said that. what i do not believe is they will rv  before or after  release. they have many things that have to pass before and ramadon is comming quickly   maybe  in sept after they come back . there are some good things happening city bank will be opening up some branches in iraq soon  the goi has  more then enough showing up to vote  so things are looking up. i see alreadsy the gurus are pushing back there date into july already and the closer we get to the 27 the deeper the bs will get. in reality no one has a real clue what is going on

That's right, and they NEVER will, the gurus are ALL wasting their time and ours, Stupid is as stupid does-Their mammas must be real proud of their mistakes in child rearing-

AND when one looks at the track record of this investment one sees that it have NEVER happened before or after any hyped holiday, event or guru projected happening.  The honest truth is that this is a fabricated fantasy - the 27th - in that all of the gibberish and balderdash is based on the premises that the UNSC taking Iraq off of Chapter VII IS the key to the RV/CE.  THAT JUST IS NOT SO. 
Next, how can a country that can't even agree about one simple set of rules that would allow their country to function as a united nation agree upon and implement a currency revaluation?  They can't even agree upon who should run the CBI.  Their self imposed dictator (Maliki) forced his way into the Prime Ministers job over Allawi and has run rough shod over the country ever since.  What makes one think that he will allow the necessary things to happen to ensure that the country prospers?  It is evident that his only interest lies in his own prospering. 
Until Maliki is gone, the country is united in the sharing of their oil wealth, and the government is on solid ground THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN.  It can't possible, because there would be a false sense of security as thing stand now meaning that the status quo would be in danger all of the time.  NO stability = no rv/ce.  Simple logic.

the one thing that stinks is once chap7 is officil m can play all the games  he wants and we cannot send our troops in so m and iran wins and we take the vaseline

Ok - so if the Security Council can remove Iraq from Chap VII - why is Iraq on the General Assemble Schedule in September to deal with the Iraq/Kuwait issues ??  The information was just submitted to the Agenda the 20th of this month....

The Security Council works UNDER the direction of UN...

and Kevin - it's okay for us to disagree....

Any country can put something on the agenda just by requesting it and the UN will debate it. However, the only body within the UN with any real teeth is the UNSC. Only they can establish peacekeeping operations and sanctions, or authorize military operations. By corollary, only they can end them. The wild card is China and Russia. Any of the five permanent members of the UNSC can veto any "substantive" resolution which a release from Chapter 7 would certainly be. The UK and France usually goes with us on such a vote, but Russia and China have both been known to veto resolutions just to tweak our nose.