THEY'VE ALREADY TOLD US

I don't understand something.
WHY are all the "in" folks on these forums so high and excited?
Iraq has already told us what they will do and when they will do it.
WHEN......
1. HCL....SIGNED INTO LAW
2. ERBIL....SIGNED INTO LAW
3. CLEARED FROM CHAPTER 7
4. TROUPS WITHDRAWN

NONE....N O N E of that has happened yet. Troup withdrawal set for 12/15/11...THAT is when the 'window' starts to open

Shabbi and the CBI have said they want a 1:1.

It seems to me we all should be listening more to what Iraq, Shabbi and the CBI are telling us than these 20 or 25 gurus are saying.[b][i]

Agreed...me, I'm waiting for the real guru Randy Koonze to talk, he has always kept a level head and said everything you just posted...he did say by end of year...

If Obama wants that tax money to save the economy and help him get re-elected, it better be soon and before calender year end..

Good Luck to all

KatyPerryFan

I see that this is your first post, so with the greatest of respect, I would suggest that you review the many threads, that provides information, on what you are stating.

Shabs have stated that the Dinar will be the Strongest Currency In The World and that Cannot Happen, with a 1-1 ratio.

Further if there was a 1 - 1 ratio, then that would create a Major Problem, as there would be No Parity, with other currencies in the Middle East ie: Kuwait

fredst wrote:I don't understand something.
WHY are all the "in" folks on these forums so high and excited?
Iraq has already told us what they will do and when they will do it.
WHEN......
1. HCL....SIGNED INTO LAW
2. ERBIL....SIGNED INTO LAW
3. CLEARED FROM CHAPTER 7
4. TROUPS WITHDRAWN

NONE....N O N E of that has happened yet. Troup withdrawal set for 12/15/11...THAT is when the 'window' starts to open

Shabbi and the CBI have said they want a 1:1.

It seems to me we all should be listening more to what Iraq, Shabbi and the CBI are telling us than these 20 or 25 gurus are saying.[b][i]

WELL SAID.

If the flat tax of 15% is correct then the wealthy that are invested will have until the end of 2012 for this to be the most profitable ?

The realbutterfly I heard that the rate was going to be $5.26. How about u?

"Strongest currency doesnt necessarily mean highest value. And if it was a 1:1 value, it still would be better than half the currencies in the ME. Take a look at Saudi, its onnly $.27. Makes a buck look a bit better huh?"

Thanks to whomever posted that....it is so true.

The crux of my original post was to chide all the "gurus" who are giving dates and rates...and causing many people to be on an emotional roller coaster needlessly.

This investment....event...will happen when it does & there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that any of these 'gurus' can say or do that will alter that statement.

In my opinion they are doing nothing....NOTHING AT ALL but play with people's emotions, hopes & dreams and for what....their own egos!

This post may get me bumped off this site. If so, then so be it. That will solidify the last 3 words of the previous paragraph. I am very 'pro' RV. I'm just equally negative about the 'gurus'.

I guess everyone has forgotten the original plan written by Bush/Cheney that said within it they would bring the currency beyond what it was before they went into Iraq (or invaded:), plus 20% for inflation?
Also Dr. Shabibi telling the Iraqi ppl in April that 'soon' their currency would be worth 'more' than it was before the U.S. invasion??
oh, and there is Kaperoni who had his translator view a video put out by CBI stating they 'have' the strongest currency in the region and could support a rate of $5 usd right now.
just things to think about...

In my opinion you are utterly Thankless, for the time that good people devote to bringing intel to all the members.

How would you like to spend numerous hours each and every day of your own personal time just to be rewarded with underserved Utter Crap, that you have just stated.

Just leave and don't ever return.

:evil:

fredst wrote:"Strongest currency doesnt necessarily mean highest value. And if it was a 1:1 value, it still would be better than half the currencies in the ME. Take a look at Saudi, its onnly $.27. Makes a buck look a bit better huh?"

Thanks to whomever posted that....it is so true.

The crux of my original post was to chide all the "gurus" who are giving dates and rates...and causing many people to be on an emotional roller coaster needlessly.

This investment....event...will happen when it does & there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that any of these 'gurus' can say or do that will alter that statement.

In my opinion they are doing nothing....NOTHING AT ALL but play with people's emotions, hopes & dreams and for what....their own egos!

This post may get me bumped off this site. If so, then so be it. That will solidify the last 3 words of the previous paragraph. I am very 'pro' RV. I'm just equally negative about the 'gurus'.

fredst wrote:I don't understand something.
WHY are all the "in" folks on these forums so high and excited?
Iraq has already told us what they will do and when they will do it.
WHEN......
1. HCL....SIGNED INTO LAW
2. ERBIL....SIGNED INTO LAW
3. CLEARED FROM CHAPTER 7
4. TROUPS WITHDRAWN

NONE....N O N E of that has happened yet. Troup withdrawal set for 12/15/11...THAT is when the 'window' starts to open

Shabbi and the CBI have said they want a 1:1.

It seems to me we all should be listening more to what Iraq, Shabbi and the CBI are telling us than these 20 or 25 gurus are saying.[b][i]

Well just to let you know the CBI never said that they are waiting on the HCL or the Erbil or being cleared from chapter seven or even the troops being withdrawn.

I mean the Erbil isnt even a law so it will never be "signed into law". It's not going into the gazette at all.

All that has come from gurus and extrapolating news articles NOT from the CBI.

The cbi has said that it will come soon. Shabibi said in a speech that after inflation reaches 10% (or in the double digits) he will really need to do something with the currency to fix inflation.

They did say they want 1:1 or a purchasing power of 1:1 so that could be at this point around 80 cents.

But virtually nothing YOU said came from the cbi... actually... came from the cbi.

But I guess that old saying is true. Say it enough times and people will believe it.

And just to make my point, Shabibi is not an elected official. He has little to do with the GOI. He's just an economist like Ben Bernanke. So nothing that he SAYS or his office SAYS should have anything to do with politics. THe HCL, the Erbil, the security council and the troops leaving... pure politics.

Just clearing that up for people that want truth.

I do agree with this poster regarding the guru's jerking people around on an emotional roller coaster needlessly. What _I_ personally hate and cannot stand is the lack of accountability these guru's take for their false hype. There are countless old posts that are examples of the gurus hyping people up on what is nothing more than pure speculation but they post it like it's fact.



In the same day recently on dinar recaps even I've seen gurus from this site posting specific time frames and such. Then hours later when someone in a Q&A asks about the time frame the GURU brought up, they totally deny it and play dumb. No accountability whatsoever and super short term memory loss apparently.

If you're going to cause all of this hype and say "Oh I'm hearing this and I'm hearing that and we're looking at a good chance of this happening tomorrow at 2am and this and that and whatever" and everytime it does NOT happen people are upset, naturally and understandably, from yet another innacurate guestimate/prediction/whatever - LEARN from that, Gurus. I for one have decided to stop listening but a lot of people just coming into this investment as of recent don't know any better. YOU have a responsibility to people who trust you and come to your for information. Otherwise you're blatantly and selfishly misleading people and setting them up for dissapointment.

Someone recently posted on recaps, I forget who, but they said something really smart about they'd rather promise little and deliver a lot than the opposite. I agree. Stop overhyping posts and getting peoples hopes up over and over again only to have them dashed. I think a lot of people would be fine staying grounded on their own if it weren't for these gurus stirring up the hornets nest.

fredst wrote:"Strongest currency doesnt necessarily mean highest value. And if it was a 1:1 value, it still would be better than half the currencies in the ME. Take a look at Saudi, its onnly $.27. Makes a buck look a bit better huh?"

Thanks to whomever posted that....it is so true.

The crux of my original post was to chide all the "gurus" who are giving dates and rates...and causing many people to be on an emotional roller coaster needlessly.

This investment....event...will happen when it does & there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING that any of these 'gurus' can say or do that will alter that statement.

In my opinion they are doing nothing....NOTHING AT ALL but play with people's emotions, hopes & dreams and for what....their own egos!

This post may get me bumped off this site. If so, then so be it. That will solidify the last 3 words of the previous paragraph. I am very 'pro' RV. I'm just equally negative about the 'gurus'.

Rate will be between 5.28 and 6.34

I guess the original post, no matter how true was removed. Dont see anything but the rate post as the first.

HOW CAN THE IMF BE LOANING THE EU, CB'S AND THE REST OF THE EU 700 BILLION DOLLARS??????? ARE YOU SURE.....ISN'T THE IMF IN NY??? AND ISN'T THAT CONTROLED BY O AND THE BOYS????
AM I WRONG??? PLEASE DO POST LAST NIGHTS, OR LAST WEEKS STUFF AGAIN....I REALLY NEED AN ANSWER TO THIS ONE.....LESS IS MORE.....THANKS.....

I watch 60 Min. interview Lagarde (sp?) of the IMF and 60 Mins state that the IMF had 700 billion dollars. A news report is saying that the IMF is ready to loan 700 Billion dollars to bail out the Euro. The IMF can't load all that they are reported to have, therefore where are they getting the money for such a save....must be the RV.

IT AINT OVER 'TIL IT'S OVER
YOGI BERRA

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Frank and Jesus start off with a skit monologuing as Maliki and Obama talking about the troops leaving early and Obama wants to see Maliki earlier than Dec. 12. Obama says meeting with Maliki and Kurds went well overall. There are still 6 issues to finish up on, but they are NOT roadblocks. Biden will come over and try to do his part in the next few days. We will see Maliki on or before Dec. 12 depending on what Biden brings back with in his report. 7 to 10 days later, after the fiscal year, the authors will release the budget.

The new year for them started yesterday, Nov.27th; it is a new lunar year and is what Islamic calendar is based on. Keeping this in mind; using our Dec. as their January. Frank says now tie that into his theory. If he goes with this theory, he goes with what Frank said a while back, stating what Delta's contact told us what Shabibi said about after the holiday, end of EID and the beginning of the New Year. The EID holiday could spill into, according to PAPPA-J, their EID is like how we celebrate our Christmas after our Thanksgiving. Would this explain the meeting with Maliki and Obama before Dec. 12? If the meeting happens sooner, it works out better for us seeing some DESSERT VERY SooN.

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Tntdinar from PTR posted in the forum by JNVW ( good read)

tntdinar: I talked to the contractor in Iraq, he said all of the small contractors were paid their agreed upon rate (3.75) I additionally was told that the oil companies were paid there first payment of their contract at a (3.75)rate with an addemdum that says they will receive the additional amount to equal the rv rate. I also think that we will find out what happened today during the White House meetings. It will have an effect on the RV.
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tntdinar: I am 100% sure that we are past the point of no return. I don't know the minute it will happen, but I know it will. To much money has passed hands and to many people have been exposed. tntdinar: If they do impose a $2.00 (fee), it will not affect the amount you will receive. ... I think they know when they get an out of country call. The in country rate can be different until the RV is announced. ...I do believe that there is a drop dead date. It is before the end of the year.

curleyque: when tony said "release the rv sooner or later" what is considered later
tntdinar:Sooner is tommorrow and later is before Christmas.

sing4u2: will the IMF fee be applicable to those of us who cash out with the dealers for the CBI rate?
tntdinar: No, I think it will only apply the money that goes through the FEDS.
MANGESHIMAN: Tony, what did you mean when you just said 'Too much money has passed hands and too many people have been exposed?
tntdinar: You guys want to know everything huh.

tntdinar: Country's and people that you will never know about have already been paid.

Biteme: We have heard rates from $3.22 - $11.00. What is his best GUESS and USD or GBP?
tntdinar: $4.40
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Bulldog75: OKIE "WE ARE ALL KNOWING SOMETHING HAS TO HAPPEN"

Bulldog75: OKIE "AM TRYING TO BE UNBIASED AS TO WHY THIS HAS NOT HAPPENED. THERE IS NO OBVIOUS REASON"

Once again I draw your attention to the UN and Chapter 7!!!