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Post by Ssmith Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:30 am





Published on Nov 14, 2017

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Dear Valued Clients and Intermediaries,

Well I heard about an hour ago that IT IS OFFICIAL !!!!

The US Treasury and the Chinese Treasury and the US Pentagon have all CONFIRMED that the funds are FREE and LIVE !!! Pay out will begin today. It may take a day or two to transfer the funds but they are OFFICIALLY DONE !!! This is for the start of the Zims (only).

I will be receiving more news very soon. My buyer has told me that she believes she will begin her first man in TODAY.

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Post by Tinef Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:06 am

Remind me again who is this senile parrot, what qualifies him to report such irresponsible nonsense, and why is he being used in this currency intel scam as a MLM intermediary?  


#DOJ.gov #SEC.gov #FTC.gov #FBI.gov #IRS.gov

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Post by Kevind53 Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:22 pm

Let's see Gary that makes a least a dozen or so times you have confirmed it's official done ... sec - Gary Larrabee says US Treasury & Chinese Treasury & US Pentagon have all CONFIRMED that funds are FREE & LIVE-Pay out begins today.  11/14/17 1656125192

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Post by Terbo56 Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:30 pm

He can't help it, look, the guy probably has Alzheimer's disease, he talks like he has half a sock in his puss, and he has to order out for food, and when he finally answers the door, the food is way past it's expiration date, with 3 inches of 'moss' {mold} on it and he can't even make a p-nut butter sammich for crissake- Look at him, poor bastard..... :nono: omg couch
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Post by Jayzze Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:03 pm

terbo he is correct because last night I ate at the Chinese restaurant  and the 2  elders across from  me told me the same thing
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Post by Bulldog56 Wed Nov 15, 2017 9:30 pm

Question for Tinef. How or why is it that you think everything is some sort of MLM securities violation, and further some of your or many of your accusations are so far off base it is outrageous.

I have been a securities principal for almost 40 years, and your assertion of securities fraud as it relates to MLM is terribly flawed. Further your description of securities fraud is also terribly flawed.

Now don't get me wrong as I think much if not all of what you read out of these Guru's is nothing more than garbage and has never been anywhere close to accurate and yes many such as Frank25 and KFTA is nothing short of a full blown fraud and con job of desperate people, and further needs to be dealt with by the proper authorities.

With that said, it would be more proper to understand within the confines of your knowledge and not not just run off with the keyboard looking as foolish as the pack of Guru's and nonsense spewed out from the Guru pack hourly, daily, and weekly !

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Post by Kevind53 Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:10 pm

While I agree with you to a point, to the extent that these clowns have endorsed and recommended this as an investment, they are guilty of, at the very least, giving investment advice without a proper license. In fact, if you look at the arrests that have taken place thus far, the charges have always included some sort of securities violation, in most cases, securities fraud related.

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Post by Jayzze Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:57 pm

kevin this is why most gurus say  in my own opinion or seek professional help so while they are lyin its not a crime but the stupidity of the sheep to believe them
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Post by Kevind53 Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:06 am

It's a bit of a grey area, but fiduciary standard is a tough hammer to dodge, especially now as they have become even more stringent.

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Post by avauinc Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:14 am

Go Gary Larrabee, keep on keeping on! Noah preached for 100 years to let people know the flood is  coming, and no one listened. The flood came and they all died, only Noah and his family lived. They were also made fun of him and called him names, just like now with this RV/NESARA/GESARA. At least, it's not 100 years yet, it's only since 2001. This prosperity is here now, and it has already rolled out. The leading bank has already started that the name starts with an H and if this bank is not in your area, they will be there soon. The Bank of America and Commerce Bank are the next locales for the exchange, and again if these banks are not in your area, they are coming soon. The distribution of NESARA for the United States, and the GESARA for international countries, each NESARA share of this Saint Germain's Trust determined and deposit automatically to each person's bank checking account. And if you do not have a checking account, you can go to any authorized Bank for the NESARA distribution for your share once it's announce publicly. By the time it is announced to the public we (the lightworkers) have already received our shares to use before the rest of the population. 
So, go ahead Gary Larrabee, you are awesome! There are still many good people reading this NESARA and the new governance and want to know more. And to the good and faithful, you are wonderful, hang in here, it is here now. Your time is now. Santa Claus is coming earlier this year. Much love and light to you. :tup: :tup: :tup:

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Post by Kevind53 Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:26 am

NESARA is not and never was. The bill introduced many years ago never made it out of committee. GESARA made it's appearance after people finally started to catch on to the NESARA BS and the constant 'glitches', "black hats" and other assorted evil types threw a wrench in the no latter than Monday RV predictions for the 101st time.

Sorry Charlie, but no St. Germain, no Grand Father, nor kindly Chinese elders. No historical bonds, not in the Philippines, nor anywhere else. No Reptilians, Cabal, or whatever the current theory is. NESARA started as a scam, and never has been anything but a scam. There is one fatal flaw in your pronouncement. Noah actually heard from God, he did not try to defraud anyone, or get funding from them. He obeyed, and did what he was told to do. If people asked why he told them. Larrabee and his ilk are liars and frauds.

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Post by avauinc Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:47 am

+Kevind53  N.E.S.A.R.A. stands for National Economic Security and Reformation Act. NESARA is a LAW that was passed in March 9, 2000 and signed into LAW in October 10, 2000 by former President Clinton. For the past sixteen years this game of deceit by our treasonous United States Government, United States Supreme Court and World Court judges has continued. ON OCTOBER 10, 2000 NESARA BECAME THE LAW OF THE LAND IN THE “united” STATES OF AMERICA, BUT IT HAS NEVER BEEN ENFORCED. Of the 40,000 laws (more or less) that passed each year in the United States, how many of them are known by the public? Very few. How many are ever enacted by public announcement? None. Yet, if you should break a law that you know nothing about, you are still held accountable for your ignorance of the law and your actions. Laws are made and become law the instant the president signs the legislation. That is the requirement of the Constitution of the Republic of the united  States of America. There are no exceptions.
These past sixteen years of delay HAVE BEEN ONLY A SCAM BY OUR GOVERNMENT TO AVOID OBEYING THE NESARA LAW. All this time the United States Government has been unlawfully in office and conducting unlawful business. They have been constitutionally unlawful since 1933, but now they are playing “double jeopardy”. SINCE OCTOBER 10, 2000, WE AS A NATION HAVE BEEN UNDER OUR ORIGINAL CONSTITUTION OF THE REPUBLIC OF THE united STATES OF AMERICA, BUT WE HAVE NOT REALIZED IT. Since October 10, 2000 we have been under common law, but the courts have continued to destroy us with their military law. For sixteen years, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) has been eliminated, but we have continued to pay our income taxes right on schedule, because we have been ignorant of the game of deceit being played against us. Since October 10, 2000 we have continued to use fiat money and a worthless credit money system, unable to discharge any debt, while we were lawfully under a gold standard banking system. All this time we should have had our Farm Claim and Prosperity Program money. We have been tricked. WE have been fooled big time, and the elites were laughing at us. Look at what’s going on right now. There are arrested left and right of these con artist scam leaders (draining the swamp).
What proof do I have that what I say is true? The proof is in the banks. Under NESARA the new gold and silver certificate currency was printed and sent to the banks. It is currently being held by the bankers for our use. They have been “sitting” on our money all this time. To lawfully print the new gold currency, NESARA had to have already been enacted. Such information has been purposely with-held from the public. Also, as additional proof, under NESARA the bankers were ordered to have new computer software and data ready for use under the new gold banking system. They have been forced to comply with this requirement of NESARA, but, again, such information is being carefully withheld from the public, due to the gag order. The gag order was unlawfully created by an unlawful United States Supreme Court to provide an “official” reason why the unlawful public officials can’t talk about NESARA. The gag order was done to stop the Truth, to stop NESARA from being known. No public official or media person or banker or judge or lawyer or military person wanted to tell you that he or she was a part of the plot to hide NESARA, to delay NESARA, to stop NESARA forever. None wanted you to know or have your share of this prosperity.
Had NESARA been enforced on October 10, 2000, President Bill Clinton and our entire treasonous government would have stepped down at that time. The banks would have been changed to a gold system and the Farm Claims and Prosperity Programs would have been paid. What a difference for good that money could have made. There would have been no 9-11 disaster! There would have been no Iraq war! There would have been no Patriot Act I, no Patriot Act II, no unlawful George W. Bush election and no George W. Bush administration. All that has happened to you in the past sixteen years would have been vastly different. What will it take to wake you up? Will it take another war with Iran, Pakistan, Syria, Libya, or North Korea? Will it take Patriot Act III? Will it take World War III? How long will you remain asleep and oblivious to the NESARA Lie? When will we as a people say “enough?”

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Post by RamblerNash Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:26 am

NESARA Scam



NESARA is an acronym for the National Economic Stabilization and Recovery Act, which is a legislative proposal that merely reintroduces specie as alternative currencies to help combat anti-inflationary policies of the paper currency. The NESARA proposal is sponsored by the “NESARA Institute”, having offices at 7635 Jefferson Highway, No. 354, Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70809 (Ph: 864-886-0657). Although the NESARA proposal has been presented to many Congresspersons over the years, and some have expressed interest in the proposal, it hasn't yet built up sufficient support for even introduction to Committee, much less to a full vote by Congress. Maybe someday the NESARA proposal will find support in Congress and may be presented for a vote, but that really isn't the point of this webpage. (You can read all about NESARA at www.nesara.org). The point of this webpage is that when certain scam artists claim that NESARA has been "enacted into law" by "secret Acts of Congress" they are telling a great big lie and total fabrication because NESARA has never even been formally made into a Bill or presented for either a Committee vote or a full vote or Congress
Scam artists often latch on to something that sounds good to relieve suckers of money. For example, scam artists will often set up boiler-room phone solicitations to seek charitable donations for firemen or policemen, which the scam artists then pocket without actually giving any money to firemen or policemen. The making of charitable donations to firemen and policemen is a good thing, but the scam artists simply divert the donations to their own pockets.
The NESARA proposal is currently being used in just this sort of a scam. Some of the same people who helped keep alive the myth that Omega Trust & Trading would eventually pay out millions of dollars for every $100 sent to “trader” Clyde Hood (now convicted and serving a lengthy prison sentence), are now saying that Omega Trust & Trading and the other “original Prosperity Programs” will still pay out their millions/ billions/ trillions/ quadrillions of dollars when (not if) the “true NESARA law” is finally announced.
The scam artists pitching the NESARA scam claim that the “True NESARA Law” was already adopted by Congress in 2001, but that Congress has been keeping it a secret all this time (like anybody in Washington D.C. can really keep a secret about anything), and that soon the “True NESARA Law” will be announced. According to these scam artists, the “True NESARA Law” does the following:

  • All of the “Prosperity Programs” (failed HYIP and bank debenture scams) will fund, giving zillions of dollars to those smart enough to have invested in them and believed in them even after their promoters were convicted of fraud and went to prison.
  • Because the funding of the “Prosperity Programs” will swamp the Earth with wealth, nobody in any country will ever have to pay taxes again, which is nice.
  • Because the banks will have more money than they will know what to do with (because of deposits from those smart enough to invest in the “Prosperity Programs”), there will be “Debt Forgiveness” of all debts, i.e., home mortgage payments, car payments, credit card payments, whatever, which is also nice.

The scam artists have set up several websites “updating” NESARA and pitching the coming debt forgiveness and new money system. These websites make some of the wildest, bizarre, and downright gut-busting statements as to why the “True NESARA Law” has not yet been announced. For instance, at http://www.2012.com.au/ NESARA_Update.html the scammers claim that on September 11, 2001,
" at 10 a.m. Eastern Daylight Time, Alan Greenspan, was scheduled to announce the new Treasury Bank system, DEBT FORGIVENESS for all U.S. citizens, and abolishment of the IRS as the first part of the public announcements of NESARA.
Instead, at just before and after 9 a.m. EDT, planes attacked the World Trade Center. The attack on the WTC served to stop the announcement of NESARA because a crucial banking computer center on the first and second floors of the WTC was prevented from carrying out a computer system download to U.S. banks which was scheduled to begin at 9 A.M. EDT."
This same website similarly claims that:
“For the last month in Orange County California, citizens have been receiving letters enabling them to have ALL their credit card debts forgiven and their mortgage debt taken off their shoulders. If their mortgage was taken out before 1997, it is totally "forgiven" and the DEED to the property will be mailed out to the owner. If the mortgage was taken out during 1997 or later, the mortgage bank is required to turn it into a "self-liquidating loan" which the BANKS are required to pay off on behalf of the citizens. Some lucky people in Orange County are receiving these benefits of NESARA which EVERY citizen in the United States is SUPPOSED to have ALREADY RECEIVED!”
Hmmm. So everybody in Orange County, California (about 4 million people) had all their debts forgiven but the rest of the nation didn’t hear about it? Wow, the power of the government to suppress information cannot be underestimated! For that matter, we here at Quatloos! are all in Orange County, but our debts weren’t forgiven. Hmmm.
But if you think all of that is strange, you haven’t heard anything yet. The primary scam artist goes by the name of "Dove of Oneness" or usually just “Dove” hosts a website called “The Four Winds” at http://www.fourwinds10.com that spews a bunch of New Age hooey, such as “Lord Ari’s Galactic Tales”. Additionally, Dove has an “update line” that you can call at: (206) 781-3897 to hear the latest updates on the “True NESARA Law”. These updates, which are archived both on Dove’s website and ours (for posterity, of course) offer totally bizarre news events, such as that “100,000 Bankers who would not accept the True NESARA Law have been eliminated” and that the spaceships of the Galacticans are regularly seen visiting Washington D.C.
For those of you in law enforcement, Dove has listed her address for purposes of sending “donations” as:
Dove
3430 Pacific Ave. SE
Suite A6, Box 217
Olympia, Washington 98501
which apparently, in a course consistent with more sane scam artists, is simply a drop-box. Dove has conspired with a bunch of other scam artists/nuts
But others much less intelligent have allowed themselves to be drawn into this scam, as have some who have been mentioned as “White Knights” (whom the scammers claim are persons that protect the “True NESARA Law” and fight for it’s announcement) who probably aren’t even aware of NESARA. The nut category includes Sheldan Nidle, who gives updates from the Planetary Activation Organization, http://www.paoweb.com, and writer David Icke, http://www.davidicke.com, who claims that most important politicians and leaders are actually shape-shifting lizards from outer space, see http://www.davidicke.com/ icke/ temp/ reptconn.html.
But as amazingly stupid as all this stuff is, it is still nothing more-or-less than a scam, and one that is at times simple to discern and at other times more complex.
The easy part of the scam is little more than a common “donations” scam. Dove and several of these nuts openly solicit “donations”, ostensibly to keep their phone lines on, etc. When they need more money, they will spin a bogus tale of somebody needed medical treatment or an operation, or about somebody’s house about to foreclosed, and invite their listeners to send them money. Then, they simply pocket the cash.
The most active of these scammers is Jennifer Lee who, again for our friends in law enforcement, lists her address for purposes of sending “donations” as:
8726 South Sepulveda, Apt. B-13
Los Angeles, California, 90045
Jennifer operates her own “update line” at (310) 842-5902, and daily (and sometimes three or four times per day) generates several minutes of airhead stream-of-consciousness, usually summarizing Dove’s updates or reciting the babble of several other scam artists who have come on board. These scam artists have amusing names, such as “A and A”, the “King of Swords”, and our personal favorite, “The Nameless Ones”.
Usually, towards the end of her message, Jennifer will spin a sob story about not being able to pay the rent, or pay her phone bill, or pay her electricity bill, or whatever else comes to mind, and about once a week she asks for money to “help” somebody else out. The Galacticans must sure be cheap if they themselves can’t help ‘ol Jennifer out with the phone bill!
From this relatively simple scam comes the more complex stuff. Dove and other scam artists will from time-to-time either offer themselves or direct their listeners to their shills who continue to sell units in one or another of the “Prosperity Programs”. Believe-it-or-not, people actually send money to these idiots to buy units in programs that have proven to be totally fraudulent, and where the original promoters (such as Omega’s Clyde Hood) are serving long prison terms. Ah, the stupid and their money shall soon be parted . . .
Some of Dove’s function is just to keep the scam victims quiet and thinking that eventually they will receive their money. Before Clyde and the other Omega fraudsters were indicted, Dove was strident in remarks aimed at keeping the sheep in line for sheering. Although we’re not sure, Dove’s voice seems eerily familiar to that of “Mumbles”, who ran a scam called Destiny that was supposed to “fund” at the same time as Omega. People actually sent “Mumbles” $100 bills wrapped in aluminum, without getting receipts, and then listened to bizarre messages predicting imminent funding on a voice machine traced to Texas. Again, the stupid and their money are soon parted . . .
This scam also has, in addition to the weird New Age aspects, an extremist left-wing bent. Hardly a week goes by that Dove doesn’t call for or predict the arrest of Bush, Cheney, et al., and at times Dove’s messages have seemed to be an open invitation for some nut to take unilateral action and attempt to assassinate them so that the “Prosperity Programs” can finally fund.
More information on other these and other looney-tunes is on our Omega Chronicles page, at http://www.quatloos.com/ cm-omega/ omega-chronicals.htm
One of our Quatloos! readers recently sent an e-mail to Dove crony “Patrick Bellringer” and received the following reply:
I am a newcomer to Nesara and I am very happy to know that it may soon become a reality. However, as I have read many of the articles and thought about many aspects of the law and its implementation, I have a few questions. Perhaps you can answer some of them.
1. Since this is apparently so secret, how is it that you seems to have so much access to what is going on?
1) KOS (King of Swords) The White Knight in charge of all White Knights communicates truth to select individuals for release to the public. A few other "insiders" are doing the same.
2. If higher souls and masters, such as St. Germain and Sananda are helping run things, why push for it to perhaps be announced before things are ready?
2) Admiral Sananda, who is in charge of Earth Shan's transition, gave the order weeks ago to the White Knights to announce NESARA. Things are ready!
3. I do find it difficult to believe that so many people could keep this thing a secret. Washington is particularly not noted for keeping secrets.
3) Secrecy under threat of death. Some have broken their silence and are now deaded!
4. I am in retailing and when I look at the people I deal with every day, when I think of Nesara being passed, I see chaos and confusion. When people are told that their dollars have decreased in number( but not value), that prices are being cut and they no longer will have taxes withheld,they are going to have more to deal with than many of them are capable of handling. Add to that that the administration and congress will resign and I can see riots and paranoia being rampant.
4) When prices and salaries are reduced by the same ratio--buying power remains the same. People are not ignorant. They will be relieved to have no debt, no income tax, and no evil government. Where are you at? Things will move forward in an orderly fashion. We White Knights are not stupid!
5. Dove talks about these prosperity programs. Was one of them the Omega Trust? I came across a reference to it somewhere and there was a person named Dove apparently involved in that. Where can I find more info on these programs?
5) Why do you want to know about Omega? It is closed to new people and held confidential. You will have your opportunity to participate in a prosperity program---later.
6. I love many of the ideas that Nesara puts forth, but one of the things I keep hearing in many of the articles is When do I get MY money? It seems that many of the current have-nots want to become "haves". If this is the motivation, I predict disaster for the whole thing.
6) People are anxious to get their funds to get on with their lives and their humanitarian projects. I have waited ten years, and I am angry. Those with greed will get nothing.
7. I e-mailed one of the national radio websites about Nesara and they said they had not found any documentation that it was real. The 10 ways Dove lists to prove that Nesara is real (http://www.fourwinds10.com/ NESARA/ history/ dove101702.html) are a joke as far as I'm concerned. How many people do you know that are bank presidents or member of the German legislature?
7) If you think that Dove's list of 10 ways to prove NESARA is a joke---then I consider you to be most ignorant and quite lazy. With that attitude you deserve no part of NESARA. It is obvious that you have had no part in it, thus far.
As funny as all this is, what is even funnier is that Dove and Jennifer constantly imploring their listeners to send postcards to the U.S. Supreme Court demanding announcement of the “True NESARA Law”, and to write “NESARA Now!” when you send in your utility bills, postcards for magazine subscriptions, etc. We can only image the poor mail room clerk at Pacific Bell getting a bunch of phone bills with “NESARA Now!” written on them and wondering just what in the hell NESARA is . . .
The extreme left-wing agenda of Dove seems strangely similar to that of the "Communist Party USA" found at http://www.cpusa.org/ It will be recalled that "debt forgiveness" was a common theme of both Lenin's and Castro's communist takeovers. It certainly wouldn't surprise us if later Dove is found to be fronting for some fringe communist or socialist party.

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Post by Kevind53 Thu Nov 16, 2017 11:41 am

I actually when through the trouble of looking up the bill once. It did make it as far as being read into the record in the House ... I don't remember the exact date, but it was mid to late 90s I think. Took me a while to find it in the congressional record, but I did, and after it was read it was sent to committee and never heard form again. No one nutty enough to introduce it was ever found in the senate.

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Post by Tinef Thu Nov 16, 2017 12:48 pm

Bulldog-56 , I assume 56 means you're 61 yrs old, and have not been living under a rock for the past 8 or 9 yrs..

If you recall, this scam was (and still is) based on insider information gleamed from secret 3-letter agency sources that just happened to share their highly classified information frequently w/ lay people who also happened to be MLM industry cretins. Said cretins/con men/Guru’s promoted or pumped a near worthless currency to death for profit, not as a keep-sake or souvenir,  but as a great investment opportunity. In most cases promoted it as a sure thing. (but without calling it a security, they referred to this as a religious godsend or the "blessing"). 

Please feel free to check the DR archives, unless the work through the night to quickly delete them..

You may also recall, the blessing / aka investment vehicle was going to save mankind because God, the Cabal, Chinese elders, aliens, and PTB were all involved  in this big payday.

If you actually are a Securities Principal.. since this is the internet, you could be a reptilian or a cabal agent or Mt Goat for all we know ..

However, before I get side tracked, by definition:   A Securities Principal is a licensed securities dealer who is also empowered to oversee operational, compliance, trading and sales operations and the personnel who staff them... So if you are or were a securities principal, Q: would you allow your licensed or unlicensed staff members to sell, market, promote or act in a capacity as an agent or intermediary that knowingly misrepresents this specific product?

Assuming you’re risk-adverse , would you allow your staff to rep this uniquely unregulated product without fear of reprisal from #DOJ.gov #FBI.gov #SEC.gov #IRS.gov #FTC.gov ?  


As one professional to another, please excuse my rudeness. Since people have lost their jobs, homes, cars, marriages and health.. I thought I'd stick around a bit longer to see how this blessing works out for the Guru's, as well as their shills, and web hosts that help support and promote their narrative.


As TNT likes to say a lot, let’s see what time will tell..

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Post by Ssmith Thu Nov 16, 2017 2:54 pm

Bulldog56's post was getting lost in the thread, so copied it along with Tinef's reply.

Bulldog56 wrote:Question for Tinef. How or why is it that you think everything is some sort of MLM securities violation, and further some of your or many of your accusations are so far off base it is outrageous.

I have been a securities principal for almost 40 years, and your assertion of securities fraud as it relates to MLM is terribly flawed. Further your description of securities fraud is also terribly flawed.

Now don't get me wrong as I think much if not all of what you read out of these Guru's is nothing more than garbage and has never been anywhere close to accurate and yes many such as Frank25 and KFTA is nothing short of a full blown fraud and con job of desperate people, and further needs to be dealt with by the proper authorities.

With that said, it would be more proper to understand within the confines of your knowledge and not not just run off with the keyboard looking as foolish as the pack of Guru's and nonsense spewed out from the Guru pack hourly, daily, and weekly !

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Bulldog-56 , I assume 56 means you're 61 yrs old, and have not been living under a rock for the past 8 or 9 yrs..

If you recall, this scam was (and still is) based on insider information gleamed from secret 3-letter agency sources that just happened to share their highly classified information frequently w/ lay people who also happened to be MLM industry cretins. Said cretins/con men/Guru’s promoted or pumped a near worthless currency to death for profit, not as a keep-sake or souvenir,  but as a great investment opportunity. In most cases promoted it as a sure thing. (but without calling it a security, they referred to this as a religious godsend or the "blessing"). 

Please feel free to check the DR archives, unless the work through the night to quickly delete them..

You may also recall, the blessing / aka investment vehicle was going to save mankind because God, the Cabal, Chinese elders, aliens, and PTB were all involved  in this big payday.

If you actually are a Securities Principal.. since this is the internet, you could be a reptilian or a cabal agent or Mt Goat for all we know ..

However, before I get side tracked, by definition:   A Securities Principal is a licensed securities dealer who is also empowered to oversee operational, compliance, trading and sales operations and the personnel who staff them... So if you are or were a securities principal, Q: would you allow your licensed or unlicensed staff members to sell, market, promote or act in a capacity as an agent or intermediary that knowingly misrepresents this specific product?

Assuming you’re risk-adverse , would you allow your staff to rep this uniquely unregulated product without fear of reprisal from #DOJ.gov #FBI.gov #SEC.gov #IRS.gov #FTC.gov ?  


As one professional to another, please excuse my rudeness. Since people have lost their jobs, homes, cars, marriages and health.. I thought I'd stick around a bit longer to see how this blessing works out for the Guru's, as well as their shills, and web hosts that help support and promote their narrative.


As TNT likes to say a lot, let’s see what time will tell..

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Post by 7star Thu Nov 16, 2017 3:41 pm

WHAT? question

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