10/7/2011 - FIVE YEARS AGO In DINARLAND

by **Ssmith** Fri Oct 07, 2016 8:30 pm

Guru OkieOilman: PLEASE LISTEN TO ME AND LISTEN CLOSELY AND I WILL STATE THIS AS SIMPLY AS I CAN. WE ARE NEARLY THERE BUT SOME ISSUES IN IRAQ ARE BEING SETTLED AS WE SPEAK. THIS BLESSING IS VALID--YOUR INVESTMENT IS ONE OF THE BEST DECISSIONS OF YOUR LIFE. WE AS INDIVIDUALS CAN NOT DO ANYTHING TO EXPEDITE THINGS. I KNOW IT IS HARD ON MANY OF YOU AS IT IS MY SELF. WE CAN ONLY PRAY--HAVE A LITLE MORE PATIENCE AND FIRMLY KNOW THAT OUR BLESSING IS ASSURED. NOW MANY OF YOU WANT TO KNOW EVERY MINUT DETAIL AND AS I HAVE SAID BEFORE AND WILL AGAIN--SOME OF US HAVE BEEN UNDER SCRUITINY BY POWERS THAT COULD REALLY CAUSE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS IF WE POSTED OPENLY EVERYTHING WE KNOW. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU BUT I DON'T WANT BLACK SUV'S SURROUNDING MY HOUSE. SOME OF THE INTEL IF POSTED COULD BE CONSIDERED AS INSIDER TRADING AND SOME INTEL COULD BE CONSIDERED AS PUMPING THE SALES OF DINAR. NEITHER OF WHICH IS TRUE. WE SHARE ALL WE CAN AND FEEL CONFIDENT WE HAVE YOUR BEST INTEREST AT HEART AND WOULD IF WE COULD SHARE ALL--BUT AT THIS CRITICAL JUNCTURE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE--JUST REST ASSURED YOU WILL BE AMPLY REWARDED FOR YOUR INVESTMENT AND TIME.

I MUST LAY DOWN FOR AWHILE---PLEASE DO NO LET THINGS GET SO OUT OF CONTROL AGAIN--IT SERVES NO FUNCTIONAL PURPOSE--YES I REALIZE YOUR FRUSTRATION---I ALSO AM FRUSTRATED---BUT----I KNOW THINGS THAT WOULD MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER---PLEASE BELIEVE ME WE ARE RIGHT WHERE WE NEED TO BE AT THIS EXACT MOMENT IN TIME----PRAY FOR ME---I PRAY FOR YOU!!!

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YOU GUYS ARE ALL MAKING MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING WHEN YOU ALL GET [excited]  ABOUT BANK CODING. IT IS SIMPLY PEOPLE MIS-UNDERSTANDING THINGS AND TRYING TO INTERPRETATE THINGS THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. NOTHING IS GOING ON PRESENTLY. WE HAVE A VERY SHORT TIME TO RECEIVE OUR BLESSING.

Guru Checkmate Dan: Banks have been notified, rate is higher than $3.22.

Guru TNT Tony: Should see it later tonight, but before Monday. Some things were acomplished last night, no bad news at this moment, everything positive and in progress. The rates we are seeing are above $3. East coast seeing some things, West coast is not.  The code is proven true, there is a time limit to it, it is irreversible, things are getting done. This is a great day.

Guru Bear5642: LETS CLEAR THE AIR...WE FEEL, THATS OKIE, SCOTTIG AND MYSELF, THAT THE END OF THIS RIDE WILL BE AROUND NOVEMBER 31ST.  [31st ???] THIS IS A LOT BETTER THAN SAYING IT WILL HAPPEN TOMORROW AND IT DOESNT BUT WE WE'VE BEEN PUTTING UP WITH THAT FOR A LONG TIME. THINGS ARE LOOKING UP IN IRAQ AS WE SPEAK AND THE SITUATION IS GETTING BETTER NOT WORSE. I CANNOT DISCLOSE MY SOURCE AND BE MORE SPECIFIC WITHOUT GETTING SOME ONE HURT NOW THATS IT, TAKE OR LEAVE IT.

IVE ALREADY TOLD YOU IT WILL NOT HAPPEN THIS WEEKEND NUFF SAID. JUST RELAX FOLKS YOUR INVESTMENT IS SOLID NO WORRIES. US IS OUT OF IT AS OF AUGUST 2011.   WE ARE BEING SAFE AND SAYING NOVEMBER 31ST 2011.[31st ???]

Guru Jonnywg: I have just received a call that will disclose some information. The bank screens show that there was continued transactions from institutions. This by IMF law means if an rv has taken place...[and this is NOT CONFIRMED] we will have it shown to the public within 24 hours...about 5pm EST from our calculations. But there are 150 countries in 4-6 baskets and it is from the last one...so say tomorrow am at the latest. Also there will be more banking rates released closer to 5pm. The dong is in the 1st basket and the dinar the 4th or 5th. We are progressing but no cash yet. At 5 pm I will try to nail down time frame but I feel if not by 5, then the will have to start a new trilateral agreement and confirm rate. The current rate posted is $5.60 USD.

i have just talked to the finance department and i have good news. the rates published yesterday have stabilized. 5.77 usd appears to be going forward as the active rate...the industrial/commercial activity has increased at one of the banks and remains constant at the other we feel at this time that a major effort to reach the rate agreed on in the trilateral agreement has been reached. $5.77, THUS OUR OPORTUNITY COULD BE REALIZED BY 3PM EST...also ther was activity in trading the VND in the same manner...i am not declaring an RV..but this information is real...we hope we are close to the end

FYI: I would like to share the following that the MT 527 codes were activated at 6am...Thursday ...as at 10 am the codes were changed to represent two different banks in IRAQ...one for CHASE THE Bank of Bagdad TRIQBA575 AND ONE FOR WELLS FARGO The warka Bank WAIVIQBA577...THESE ARE ACTIVE CODES...NOTE THAT A RATE GOES WITH EACH CODE $ 5.75 AT ONE BANK AND $5.77 AT THE OTHER...today as at 8am est i will post the codes again and new rate. These codes are connecte from bank in usa to their clearing supplier bank in IRAQ although little detail available multiple transactions in dinar happened and were on the screens...this information was verified by an IMF contact...it is believed to be cashins by small countries and large holders. i was informed that the IMF is acting behind the scenes to adjust the rate... this does not guarranttee an RV as the IMF has to hit the rate guarranteed by the unilateral agreement between usa/iraq.

Newshound Bondlady: article 140 has been complete for months, it just had to be implemented. art 140 isn't the issue,  its finding the money, digging it out of there corrupt pockets after they have pocketed it. look at what the kurds have accomplished, they have 24 hr elec. whats iraq have, nothin cause they stuffed there pockets an have for yrs. sucks to be Baghdad, but again what we want isnt what matters here now, is it...drops the mic and walks off

the young people in iraq is what will change the future of Iraq, who will throw out the barbarian ways an look to a democracy of freedom for them. its the ones who are set in there ways who wont allow change who believe in killing off any one who stands in there way instead of using peaceful means to settle things. it’ll prolly take them 25 to 50 yrs before they ever have a true democracy.  These Iraqi politicians get big bucks to have meetings, to schedule meetings...And there is no incentive to move the ball further, the protests and the corruption law, the integrity law that was just passed is there incentive. we’ve got nothing but good news for the last 6 months.  it may not be the news we want but again this isnt about us, its all about Iraq.

dont look at allawi being out, if he is out, as a bad thing for us as investors in fact it lets them move on to there next fight. its allawis own fault he didn’t do his home work last year with the constitution, the've never known or had a democracy ever,   this is new to them.  allawi being out, if indeed he is,...might let them move a little more into political calmer waters, an with shabibi doin what hes doin, this will give them a better life.  allawi signed a paper an gave a promise to parliament, he said if it came out the supreme council was against the constitution, an it is, then he would walk away from the government. for the peoples sake, according to allawi, he kept his word, he is walking away. this is almost the best news we could have today as far as us as investors. over a yr of stagnation is plenty not only for us, but for Iraq. this is an investment to us, for iraq its there life.

Guru Med: ALL WAS QUIET FROM THE STATE OF LAW, NOW LETS SEE IF IT STAYS THAT WAY. IF SHABIBI DID HIS JOB DURING THE BREAK THEN THIS SHOULD END THIS MONTH. THERE IS PLENTY OF TIME TO DO THE 3RD READING AND PUT THIS TO BED. I AM CROSSING MY FINGERS THOUGH CUZ SO FAR ANYTIME WE HOPED SOMETHING WAS TO BE DONE IT WAS PUT OFF. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I CAN REMEMBER THAT EXACTLY WHAT WAS SAID AND THE TIMELINE WERE ACTUALLY CORRECT

BUBBA HAS SOME COOL INFO FROM IRAQ, FROM HIS SON. IT IS NOT ABOUT THE RV BUT IT IS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WAS IN THE MEDIA...HE [allawi] JUST WALKED AWAY. ONE LESS TO WORRY ABOUT. BUBBA TOLD ME THAT THE PEOPLE SAID AND THIS IS SO TRUE, HE WAS NEVER IN THE COUNTRY. THIS WAS WHAT WAS ALWAYS A CONCERN.

Guru Breitling: As soon as they put the Erbil agreement together and agree on it and it's law, you will see the Security seat seated and you will see a fully seated government. They will not revalue until they have a fully seated government. That's the steps, that's what gets them out of Chapter 7 - it's that simple.

Guru Vic1: Swift Codes are many and for different reasons and some have mixed up the Pot! Here we go... A Swift code MT-527 is a Tri-Party Collateral Instuction. A Mt-760 is a Guarantee, a MT-752 is What WE ARE GOING To HAVE! See how the numbers can get confusing... These are NOT SECRET CODES>>> As SOME PUT OUT! ALL THREE ARE REQUIRED In ORDER to Alert and ACCEPT!

Now here is where the THINK they KNOW and DO NOT KNOW! ISO 3166 Codes, Maintained in the Maintenance Agency,Berlin, Germany!   IRAQ... IQ IRQ 368 means Republic of Iraq... Not the Rate! Kuwait... KW KWT 414 State of Kuwait! US USA 840, United States of America these are not RATES, these are Country ISO CODES!

Now! CBI to BOA or any Federal Reserve Board Member Bank, will respond to a Code... and Then Respond to CBI via their Own MT code! So, I will say that all the MT Code are for a purpose of IDENTIFICATION of INSTRUCTIONS! NO Big DEAL, We re and Will NOT BE PRIVY to THESE CODES and Changes...? What Changes? And they have done these for Years why CHANGE any Code unless... Your COUNTRY is CHANGING IT's NAME! ALL is GOOD! My MENTOR IN CHINA said... to me as he has always said! WILL SEE IRAQ DO... What CHINA WANTS TO DO!

The IMF... Is NOW PPPUSHING CHINA to get the CHINESE CURRENCY UP! That is why IMF Meeting was all about Euro-BONDS... to Force CHINA to Not BITE.. BUT UNDERSTAND that CHINA cannot BITE the HANDS that FEED IT! ARE we going to see This RV, IMHO... ASAP!

China will soon excuse themselve from COMMUNISM, and BECOME a DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY! NEWS will start coming SOONER than YOU ALL Might THINK, Possible!

So, A MT-752... Means AUTHORISATION... TO PAY, ACCEPT, or NEGOTIATE! Does That make sense? Hit MT-752

Guru Freeway Bill: The information is flowing like ..... never before and it looks good ~FREEWAY BILL

This has been quite the day. Started out with a long drive to nowhere to accomplish nothing but on the way back, I got a call that started this day off pretty good. Movement had been made in Iraq and Allawi had officially resigned his present position to accept the new position at the top of the power chain in Iraq! This is very good for all of us!

Then, got a call from U.S. Territory bank with more things happening concerning RV. Spent a long time trying to confirm this information. It also is very good but did not make sense to some degree, THEN ....... talked with Tony and he helped me figure out what I was looking at. A little while later we had the PTR call which brought more good news. At this point we are playing RV, RV, who has got the RV?

This evening got a phone call that confirmed everything that Dan and Tony went over on the call. Always makes you feel good when you hear any news from more than one source.

And the grande finale of the day was a conversation with a friend outside the country who is hearing all of the same information + a little more!

With what I have heard today from all over the place, I have to say that I think this alarm is not a false one. I cannot say that I am 100% sure that we will see this at any particular time but I would bet 553 dinar that we will see this very soon!

The highlight of the day was Golfer Dan and the Crazy Bunch of PTR members having a fabulous party at the bull! Thanks so much to Golfer Dan for putting on this shindig! Maybe next time he could find TCOB? I lurked (as marshw calls it) inside que and listened to both sides of the party, Dan and the DJS and the music on my other computer on the bull. Oh, what a night! When they do this again, don't miss it! Thinking he should do this every night as we don't have that many nights left before we go where I left my heart!!!

GOD BLESS THE USA

Guru ScottiG: Are you an investor? This is a question you need to ask yourself. If you are an investor then you owe it to yourself to be an informed one. I am going to address numerous things in this post. These include what we have seen to date, patterns as well as current status of information.

I would like each of you who have been invested for at least a year to think back over the last year and look at where we have been and what we have been told. If you think about it, we have heard and seen quite a bit. Some of it was verifiable and much of it was nonsense. Sure we all want to get the info right and sure we want to be the one with the very best source. So let’s look at some patterns I have watched and studied.

Starting with a current event and working our way backward let’s see if you see what has captured my attention. It was about a month ago in September on a Round Table call that I participated in where we began to hear that a SWIFT code (I believe it was MT-527 or 529)had been released in Canada and that this was supposed to be a real important sign of the RV coming our way. Well I have used SWIFT codes in money transactions to and from China and so I am aware of their significance in banking transactions. Now before I go more into depth on this SWIFT code stuff let’s look at a PATTERN! Do you remember over the summer we started hearing about numbers popping up on bank screens relevant to the IQD. Now I heard this information from people I know and trust so at the time I am thinking there is some level of credibility there, but what does this really mean? After I did a fair amount of research and brought ‘the banker’ into the picture to assist my query, we realized that the rates showing up on some screens were Global System Test rates going back and forth between systems.

It wasn’t too long after that before every Dinar site had people claiming that their bank or bank representative claimed the bank screen was showing this rate or that rate and that the RV was happening or getting ready to happen…… This did not go on for a week or two; it has been going on for months. Now here is the PATTERN…. Time after time when someone puts out information that sounds plausible, everyone starts jumping on the bandwagon trying to sound like an expert and claiming just how important this information was to the RV. This serves only to get people pumped up with anticipation. What about the Erbil? What about the HCL? What about the GOI? I have stated for the last six months that Erbil is not mandatory for the RV. It has basically gone in one ear and out the other. IF Iraq has been at the point of adjusting their currency several times as I have been led to believe from individuals who were directly involved with the process and Erbil was not done then….well why is it so critical for Erbil to be done now?

We have been subjected to an enormous pile of ignorant nonsense. This Treasury agent says this and this is the date and this is the rate! Another person states that my source is an IMF representative who is at the top of the food chain and is most connected has the very best most reliable information and they say the date is this and the rate is that. Or someone else has a BIS contact or others who claim they have a sister of a friend who works in the CBI. COME ON ALREADY!!!!! Enough is enough. We have been told this week or next Monday for 11 straight months now. Nearly every week by some individual or many of the Dinar groups are claiming that they have information that this is the week and if not this week then it is next week. Oh and how many times in the last week or days have we heard our contacts says it will happen tomorrow????????? I remember someone claiming on Monday that the SWIFT code was active and that it only had a 72 hour window where it was active. You don’t say!

Why am I pointing these irregularities out? I do not want this family of investors to be sheep who are blindly following this theory or that person, only to be led down one more path of ignorant and dead end rumors. Do I have all the answers? Not on your life but I can say with certainty that I have worked diligently to find legitimate sources who are not being fed BS so they will not pass that BS on to me or you! I am blessed to have the resources that I do have. It is nothing short of a grand blessing from my Father in Heaven. I will not delve into why I have been so blessed. I can say this without question that there is a responsibility that goes with knowledge. In Matthew 25:23 we learn of the reward of the good stewards… "His master said to him, 'Well done, good and faithful slave. You were faithful with a few things, I will put you in charge of many things; enter into the joy of your master.' Suffice it to say that with all the information I have processed this last year and with all the connecting-of-the-dots I have accomplished that I am often able to recognize just what it is I am looking at. I don’t say this to pump myself or Bear up. I say this because we have been faithful with little and are now being entrusted with much!

Before I delve more into this information, let me state that I would love that people who are making these nearly daily claims of RV were right. They only have to be right once…and one day they might just be there! So let me ask you a question. Why have so many people who have not gotten one thing right yet get their shorts in a wad because someone is open enough to say we are being told that it will possibly be a 30 days or a little longer? Now we have been sitting on that information for at least a couple of weeks and had not addressed it publicly until we saw the following post from a chat room!

[Med says to (10:22:58):
I JUST HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION WITH LANACHY HE HAS BEEN STAYING ON TOP OF THIS HE SAID THE REASON FOR SHABIBI SAYING HE NEEDED PARLIAMENT TO SPEED THINGS UP WAS IT APPEARS THAT SHABIBI HAS A DEADLINE THAT HE MOST LIKELY KNOWS THE DATE HE WANTS TO REVALUE AND THIS IS WHY THE PUSH BUT HE ALSO SAID THAT SHABIBI IS TRYING TO LET THIS GOVT DO THE RIGHT THING WHICH THEY HAVENT IN THE PAST SO HE IS TRYING TO GUIDE THEM EVEN THOUGH HE IS NOT POLITICAL HE ASKED ME WHAT IS MY HONEST OPINION ON THE EARLIEST RV I TOLD HIM THAT IF THE 2ND READING AND IT GOES SMOOTHLY…(Break in conversation)

OK LANACHY SAID THAT INFLATION IN IRAQ IS OUT OF CONTROL AND SHABIBI KNOWS HE CANNOT STOP IT ANYMORE HE SAID THAT BECAUSE THEY (GOI) NEVER MOVE IN A TIMELY MANNER HE THINKS IT WILL REVALUE BY DECEMBER THAT IS AS LONG AS HE CAN WAIT BUT HE ALSO SAID IT IS OBVIOUS TO HIM THAT HE HAS A DATE SET TO REVALUE AND HIS WORDS IN THE MEDIA TO PARLIAMENT WERE THE SIGN HE DID WHEN HE SAID THEY NEEDED TO SPEED THINGS UP HE SAID HE NOW IS ON A TIMELINE AND IS TRYING TO MEET I IT SO THAT WAS IT OK WE WILL HAVE TO SEE… HE SAID HOW FAST THEY MOVE ON THE 3RD READING IF IT IS DONE THIS MONTH THEN POSSIBLY NOVEMBER RV HE SAID THAT HE KNOWS SHABIBI DOES NOT HAVE TO WAIT BUT WANTS THIS GOVTT TO DO THE RIGHT THING THAT HE IS TRYING TO START SOMETHING AND FOR THEM TO STOP THE INTERNAL FIGHTING THAT NEVER ENDS AND IS HOLDING UP ALL THE PROGRESS. ]

My point is this. The honorable Governor Shabibi has the authority to release the new rate into the Global Banking System. The Parliament has signed off on it. Our Government has signed off on it. So what is holding things up? That is the several Trillion Dinar question. What Bear and I are being told is that the RV can indeed happen at any minute. There are some adjustments or dealings behind the scene and they are on-going. Now what we have been advised is that there is an end point in this process. Not an arbitrary one but one set by Governor Shabibi. It is fast approaching. So whatever the discussion was last Monday night in Iraq between Talibani, Maliki, Allawi and yes Gov. Shabibi, we are advised that there is indeed an end point and all the laws or agreements that are hoped for are not relevant to the release. It will happen and it will happen in the not too distant future. I cannot say more than that. Take it or leave it.

Let me encourage you to reread some of my previous posts over the last few months and think about some of the things I have mentioned. Some of those points I have re-addressed in this post and others, like the possibility of a lower introduction and a subsequent higher rate are things you should keep in mind so that you are not taken by surprise if that indeed plays out like I previously mentioned. I have endeavored to bring sound guidance with as much clarity as I am able to provide. You do not have to trust me or Bear. I hope you will however keep your thoughts centered and your eyes focused on this: WE ARE VERY CLOSE. You say well I have said that before and that is true. There have been a few hiccups or bumps in this process but know this that everything has been done that is critical to the release of the rate. So now we wait.

Now I will address the SWIFT code stuff in a second post. You will find links and explanations about this process. These SWIFT codes are nothing new. They are not short spanned windows that must be acted on because they are there! So go check out this other post in the Skuttlebutt forum!

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In His Mercy and Grace

Scotti G