What to do with my 20.000.000 Dinar?

by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs Sat Mar 12, 2016 6:54 pm

Hi guys , I am new to this website , but not to Dinar , sick of the lies and don't know what to do , my question is are any of the gurus trustworthy? , I do listen to Breitling Dinars audio and he says that the Iraqis are reducing the note count so they are going to increase the value and not LOP the currency , but from what I gather you guys don't like him either. So do any of you guys think I should hang on? , or should I just fly to Iraq and exchange and get out ASAP? Thanks.

by **Kevind53** Sat Mar 12, 2016 8:51 pm

Well I can think of better things to do with 20K USD, If you need the cash, get rid of it any way you can. Otherwise, sit on it if you are comfortable with that, get rid of it if you are not. I'm in for the long haul, if I make money, great, if I don't, that's OK too.

Are any of the guru's trustworthy? In a word, nope. Not sure why you would fly to Iraq to exchange though, you might get a better rate, but most likely it would cost you more than any extera you might make.

by roxy22222222 Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:04 pm

Good question TheArtist. The answer is NONE!!!!!!!

by roxy22222222 Sat Mar 12, 2016 9:51 pm

Perhaps wallpaper?

by Snow Cat Sat Mar 12, 2016 11:57 pm

I'm very new and certainly not as knowledgeable as most of the more "seasoned" dinar folks so please take anything I say with a small grain of salt. My thoughts, at this point, fall between Kevin and roxy's opinions. Some have a ton of money invested in this. I, myself, didn't bet the farm so I hang on to what I bought and wait to see but tend to believe that I need to be real about the entire situation.

You, on the other hand, have a lot in USD so my thoughts are that you give this some thought, do your research and find your answer. For me personally, 20K USD is a LOT of money so perhaps after giving it serious thought maybe you could sell off a bit ,keep some to see what happens.

Just my personal thoughts if you want to ride this out, do your research and do what feels right for you.

p.s. I have found, through weeks of research, that anyone who claims to have insider "intel", contacts in banks or Iraq, definitive dates/rates, etc.,......run.

by **kenlej** Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:11 am

i'M NOT SURE IF U CAN TAKE THAT MUCH DINAR INTO IRAQ WITHOUT GETTING ARRESTED BUT I WOULD TRY AND GET WHATEVER I COULD FOR IT. PLEASE SPEND SOMETIME ON THIS BLOG
http://iraqcurrencywatch.com/
IF YOU TRULY READ THE ARTICLES ON THIS BLOG BY MARCUS CURTIS AND SAM I AM YOU WILL GET RID OF THE DINAR HOWEVER YOU CAN!!! GOOD LUCK YOU WILL NEED IT!!!!

by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:35 am

Thanks very much guys for your opinion... I could get arrested for bringing 20.000.000 to Iraq? are you guys sure about this? The reason that I am thinking about going to Iraq to exchange is because I am in the EU and it is not as far as it would be from the US , plus in Ebay I can only have access to the Irish market until you get a good rep and after that you can have access to the rest of the World , before I tried to sell 1.000.000 Dinar for 600 Euro about the same as USD and I couldn't get it sold , and the guy I purchased it from "Dinar index" will only give under 350 Euro per Million , so Iraq would be my best bet , but I would say that I would be able to exchange in the airport itself.

by jrg Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:10 pm

No matter how much IQD you have, I would not hang onto it. It could never go up more than 15% or so (less now), and most folks paid MORE than that so if you are in that group (like I was) no matter what decisions are made in Iraq you are not going to make money and will be very lucky to break even. If you've only got a couple notes, then sure framing them to put in the bathroom might be a better idea than paying more than they are worth in fees. But most folks have enough to be worth taking a loss but getting something.

I don't expect Iraq will LOP any time soon, but you never know and if they do then you might get even less then you could get now. I think CurrencyLiquidator and TreasuryVault are still buying IQD. I don't know if they will deal with folks outside of the US, but worth a look. I think there is an Iraqi consulate in Dublin, so you might inquire there about currency exchange (i.e. not expecting to exchange at the consulate but maybe they can recommend something). You certainly don't want to do anything that might run afoul of the Iraq government when/if traveling to Iraq, so obviously be very careful.

Note that anyone that claims that a reduction in the note count (even if it were to happen) is making a RV more likely, is spewing nonsense. The note count is just a logistical issue (i.e. would you rather carry a single 100,000 note or four 25,000 notes?). The issue is the ratio of the size of the money supply to the size of the reserves at the CBI and the note count has no bearing on that.

Good luck.

by **Ssmith** Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:20 pm

Let's think this through. First, could you even get a Visa? Assuming you crossed that hurdle, there are other things to consider.

That's is a lot of IQD to be carrying into Iraq. Could they just confiscate it? Who knows? Iraq does have a reputation for being corrupt. You'd have to check the airport exchange to see if they would exchange that amount and what the fees are. What would plan "B" be? Just wandering around Baghdad, not knowing the language and carrying a chuck of IQD doesn't sound too safe.

Assuming you did exchange, you still have to deal with customs when you get back to your country. Would you incur any taxes, duties going through customs? What about red flags - being questioned about why you just made a quick trip to Iraq? Don't forget to figure in all the money spent on your trip to Iraq. Would the money spent and potential problems be worth it?

Maybe you could check with an airport exchange in your country and see what they have to offer.

by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs Sun Mar 13, 2016 2:46 pm

I tried the airports here and contacted the airports in the UK and they don't take Iraqi currency , I would see it as highly unlikely that they would confiscate my Dinar in Iraq and getting a visa shouldn't be a problem , I wouldn't be living the airport , surly there would be a bank at the airport, otherwise it would be the Kurdish part I would be going to , thanks for your input guys.

by **kenlej** Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:23 pm

What I've seen in the last year is a lot of dinar being stolen in Iraq and I really don't think you can find an entity" bank,exchange center or even a money changer" that will want to give you 10,000 Euro,Usd, or pounds for your dinar. I wouldn't give you $5,000 for it unless I was going to try and sell it on eBay. What I've ascertained is that it's illegal to export dinar out of Iraq so to try and bring it in would be dangerous. I've talked to people who have bought billions spending over $100,000 of their life savings on it and they can't get rid of it. I really don't know what to say to you except how in the hell did you believe it to the point where you spent 1000s of dollars on it. I can see maybe somebody spending a grand on it for the hell of it but I can only conclude that greed was the only reason spending 10s of thousands on it GOOD LUCK

by jrg Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:48 pm

kenlej wrote:I really don't know what to say to you except how in the hell did you believe it to the point where you spent 1000s of dollars on it. I can see maybe somebody spending a grand on it for the hell of it but I can only conclude that greed was the only reason spending 10s of thousands on it.

Greed is the driving force no matter how much you spent. How much you spent depends on a lot of things, like how much you had to spend, how desperate you were, what sort of emotional state you were in at the time, who was trying to convince you to do this, not just how much you "believe". The basis of how folks got into this does not appear to be much different, just a matter of degree. So that's "how the hell..". it happened to a lot of folks of all sorts of backgrounds, me included. Perhaps you avoided it all, and if so, good for you. But if you don't understand how this happened, then maybe you should try and gain said understanding rather than ride around on a high horse about it.

by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:54 pm

Well I seen videos on youtube from the mainstream media talking about possible profits to be made from the Dinar , so I figured it must be plausible if it is on the mainstream media (and not just Dinar dealers), and "greed"? i guess I could be comfortable with you using that word, the add I seen when buying said "Fill your boots" so I did lol.

by **MarcusCurtis** Sun Mar 13, 2016 4:09 pm

TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs wrote:Thanks very much guys for your opinion... I could get arrested for bringing 20.000.000 to Iraq? are you guys sure about this? The reason that I am thinking about going to Iraq to exchange is because I am in the EU and it is not as far as it would be from the US , plus in Ebay I can only have access to the Irish market until you get a good rep and after that you can have access to the rest of the World , before I tried to sell 1.000.000 Dinar for 600 Euro about the same as USD and I couldn't get it sold , and the guy I purchased it from "Dinar index" will only give under 350 Euro per Million , so Iraq would be my best bet , but I would say that I would be able to exchange in the airport itself.

You have several issues. First getting through customs with that much currency is going to cause problems. Second if you board a commercial flight in america and you have 10,000.00 US dollars or more or any currency that has an equal dollar value, TSA will confiscate it. and there is a lot of red tape involved getting it back if you get it back.

Your only options are selling back to a dealer, selling on eBay, or hang on to it and lose everything.

If you choose the last option you could wall paper your wall or you can play a massive game of monopoly. You can be the banker.

by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs Sun Mar 13, 2016 4:36 pm

I am in Ireland not the US and I will ask Irish customs before I go , worst case scenario I have to take two trips to Iraq to exchange it , you live and learn. I really don't see a big problem here , with going to Iraq that is.

Then the other thing is if Iraq reenters the global FINANCIAL and economic markets (according to the IMF) first half of 2016 then surly that would mean their currency can be internationally traded. I am not sweating just yet.

by **Sam I Am** Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:02 pm

TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs wrote:Hi guys , I am new to this website , but not to Dinar , sick of the lies and don't know what to do , my question is are any of the gurus trustworthy? , I do listen to Breitling Dinars audio and he says that the Iraqis are reducing the note count so they are going to increase the value and not LOP the currency , but from what I gather you guys don't like him either. So do any of you guys think I should hang on? , or should I just fly to Iraq and exchange and get out ASAP? Thanks.

Breitling may sound more trustworthy and knowledgeable than the other gurus, but don't let that fool you. When it comes to the dinar he is practically batting zero. I've never seen any guru get more things wrong than Breitling.

http://iraqcurrencywatch.com/the-breitling-catalog-22312/

by jrg Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:06 pm

The US State Dept travel page on Iraq says there is an "exit restriction" on not having more than $10,000 but no entrance currency restrictions. So you might be able to wire the money to your home bank so you don't have to physically carry it back out, but there might be restrictions on that as well. You're not going to get the CBI rate in Iraq either but the street price which is of course less, plus the travel and lodging costs, you have to get a visa (more fees and perhaps travel costs). How that will all add up to the rate you get in the end is very hard to say (even ignoring the risks, whatever those are). Finding a dealer might still be a better deal despite their rates, which seem low compared to what they sell for.

If you have 20M to sell, then every $1000 USD it costs you lowered the effective price per million by $50. If the total trip costs $1000 USD (and its hard to imagine it being less) and you have to make 2 trips with the $10,000 exit limit, then even if you get $800 per mill in Iraq, your net is down to $700 per million and there are dealers that will pay at least close to that, but again not sure about doing business from Ireland. Anyway just add up the estimated costs before you set out.

http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/country/iraq.html

by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs Sun Mar 13, 2016 5:44 pm

Wow Sam , there is a hell of a lot of information and work in all of that (link you provided), and that is just one "guru" ,I take it that you have done similar studies and pieces on all the other gurus too, can I ask you a question , what is in it for you? how does it profit or benefit you to go to all of this trouble?. , did you get burned? well maybe I could say the same ,but as soon as it is sold I would just move on, but that is just me. So why do you do what you do?

by **kenlej** Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:13 pm

jrg wrote:
kenlej wrote:I really don't know what to say to you except how in the hell did you believe it to the point where you spent 1000s of dollars on it. I can see maybe somebody spending a grand on it for the hell of it but I can only conclude that greed was the only reason spending 10s of thousands on it.
Greed is the driving force no matter how much you spent. How much you spent depends on a lot of things, like how much you had to spend, how desperate you were, what sort of emotional state you were in at the time, who was trying to convince you to do this, not just how much you "believe". The basis of how folks got into this does not appear to be much different, just a matter of degree. So that's "how the hell..". it happened to a lot of folks of all sorts of backgrounds, me included. Perhaps you avoided it all, and if so, good for you. But if you don't understand how this happened, then maybe you should try and gain said understanding rather than ride around on a high horse about it.

I can understand people getting scammed by it before 2013 because there was hardly any articles about it being a scam but by 2013 there was at least three blogs showing it was a scam " Iraq Currency Watch, Dinar Douchebags, and Baghdad Invest" giving out articles showing it was a scam but all I did was Google Iraqi Dinar and the first article I seen was
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jayadkisson/2012/07/30/you-cant-fix-stupid-the-iraqi-dinar-scam-lives/#7c9db4a48ee9
and it resonated with me completely then started reading the three blogs and since 2013 I've helped 1000s of people get out of the nightmare and still fight until this scam finally implodes!!!

by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:26 pm

Ken ,I purchased must of my Dinar in 2005 , and the rest about 5 years ago , but scam or not , it is on the mainstream media so they wouldn't endorse a scam is the way I seen it (and sill do kinda), plus some people said bitcoin was a scam, and some people made a fortune from it, until the Dinar LOPs you can't completely rule out making a profit from it.

by **Ssmith** Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:34 pm

Guess I've missed all the "mainstream media" endorsements of buying physical IQD as an investment. Do you have any of those links available? Thanks in advance.

by **kenlej** Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:41 pm

Please show me a link in the MSM showing endorsing this scam Here's some that doesn't
http://www.learningmarkets.com/the-iraqi-dinar-scam/
http://scam-detector.com/financial-scams/iraqi-dinars
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnwasik/2013/09/06/inside-the-dubious-dinar-revaluation-ruse/#75e295726f4e
http://skeptoid.com/blog/2014/02/10/the-ugly-truth-about-the-iraqi-dinar/
http://investorplace.com/2014/06/iraqi-dinar-scam/#.VNhLkubF8mf
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/01/15/inside-a-24-million-investment-scam-buy-the-iraqi-dinar.html
http://whnt.com/2014/05/09/iraqi-dinar-investment-fact-or-fiction/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertlaura/2015/03/24/retire-on-the-iraqi-dinar-and-vietnamese-dong/#7ab5f8d54cf4
http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2012/02/22/iraqs-dinar-still-stuck-in-wild-west-currencies.html
http://www.wealthdaily.com/articles/the-future-of-the-iraqi-dinar/4424

by **kenlej** Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:50 pm

TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs wrote:Ken ,I purchased must of my Dinar in 2005 , and the rest about 5 years ago , but scam or not , it is on the mainstream media so they wouldn't endorse a scam is the way I seen it (and sill do kinda), plus some people said bitcoin was a scam, and some people made a fortune from it, until the Dinar LOPs you can't completely rule out making a profit from it.

There has been a lot of people that has made a fortune off of dinar
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/2016/02/22/sterling-currency-group-execs-indicted-in-600m.html
http://www.toledoblade.com/Courts/2014/10/31/Local-men-sentenced-in-dinar-case.html

by jrg Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:45 pm

TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs wrote:Ken ,I purchased must of my Dinar in 2005 , and the rest about 5 years ago , but scam or not , it is on the mainstream media so they wouldn't endorse a scam is the way I seen it (and sill do kinda), plus some people said bitcoin was a scam, and some people made a fortune from it, until the Dinar LOPs you can't completely rule out making a profit from it.

If you paid a low enough price in 2005 such that with your later purchases our average price puts you in the black now given the dealer buy price, indeed you can make a profit. But the IQD CAN NOT RV. It isn't a matter of being unlikely, its not possible. Just think of all those post RV mega-wealthy Iraqi's (75 Trillion iQD in M1) who are going to want to buy a lot of imported stuff (smart phones and air conditioners and bull dozers and everything in between). They must get hard currency (dollars or Euros etc) to make those purchases and that means exchanging via banks who exchange via the auctions. But the CBI's reserves do not go up after an RV, nor do oil prices or how much oil is being pumped by Iraq. So if they RV, the CBI's reserves will be wiped out in minutes from imports, i.e. it can't happen. Never could, never will. Might never LOP either, but a LOP is a least possible, maybe even likely if you look say over a 5 year time horizon. But an RV is impossible and always was.

by jrg Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:59 pm

kenlej wrote:... since 2013 I've helped 1000s of people get out of the nightmare ...

Hey if you are helping to convince folks to not buy or sell what they hold and expose scammers that's all good.

But "1000s" who sold out because of you in the past 2 or 3 years? Wow! You must have won them over with your empathetic "how the hell could you ..." attitude. How do people get into this? In one way or another they make up their own reality. I think you should be able to understand that quite well.

by **Sam I Am** Sun Mar 13, 2016 9:12 pm

TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs wrote:Wow Sam , there is a hell of a lot of information and work in all of that (link you provided), and that is just one "guru" ,I take it that you have done similar studies and pieces on all the other gurus too, can I ask you a question , what is in it for you? how does it profit or benefit you to go to all of this trouble?. , did you get burned? well maybe I could say the same ,but as soon as it is sold I would just move on, but that is just me. So why do you do what you do?

I didn't "just move on" because I felt an obligation to warn others. I'm no dummy, and if I could fall for it I figured that there would be tens of thousands of others who could (or already had) fall for it along with me. I had over 8 million dinar at one point in 2010/2011. I realized the big RV was a scam in the summer of 2011 and started that blog. I'll admit that I was obsessed for a year or so with exposing the scammers, but I don't do that kind of research anymore. Also, I didn't do as much research on the others as I did with Breitling because the others don't put as much crap out there as he did. Back then he was doing a video or two almost every day. In fact, a lot of my education about the dinar came from fact checking what B was saying. He's been in this a long time and he has as much misinformation as any guru out there.

by **kenlej** Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:22 pm

jrg wrote:
kenlej wrote:... since 2013 I've helped 1000s of people get out of the nightmare ...
Hey if you are helping to convince folks to not buy or sell what they hold and expose scammers that's all good.

But "1000s" who sold out because of you in the past 2 or 3 years? Wow! You must have won them over with your empathetic "how the hell could you ..." attitude. How do people get into this? In one way or another they make up their own reality. I think you should be able to understand that quite well.

LOL, I was brought into the fray when TNT Tony gave out my phone number on his cc call after I texted him and told him he was a conman. Tony told his minions to call me and call me a dumba## and I was able to get about 500 of his koolaid kiddies. I texted them giving them www,baghdadinvest.com and the war was begun LMAO. I fought him in the comments section of BI in Nov 2013 and came one of the first #wearethepeople on twitter in Dec. By Feb 2014 he had hit over 2 mil tweets and was getting about 3000 retweets. After he told his minions to attack me on twitter under Mike Diston I blew him away giving his kiddies his back ground
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/directory/14-daily-plus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSSs2VOhqZg#t=10
http://www.truthcall.com/tony.html
He went from 3000 retweets in Feb to 300 rt in March so I really can't tell you how many I've awakened but I've had 100s thank me so that's my story and I'm sticking to it
tony

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by **kenlej** Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:33 pm

You must have won them over with your empathetic "how the hell could you ..." attitude. How do people get into this?
LMAO YEA THEY SAY I HAVE A CAUSTIC SENSE OF HUMOR AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT I SAY TO THEM F@#K YOU
K - What to do with my 20.000.000 Dinar? 3508649203

by jrg Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:50 pm

kenlej wrote:
jrg wrote:
kenlej wrote:... since 2013 I've helped 1000s of people get out of the nightmare ...
awakened but I've had 100s thank me so that's my story and I'm sticking to it

100s is an excellent accomplishment!.

by **kenlej** Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:28 am

Like I said I had 100s THANK me but a lot of people I found out don't even want to admit that they were taken ,that's why the only way I can figure is by the retweets

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by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:00 am

Jesus you and an argumentative bunch lol , I didn't say people made a fortune from Dinar I said they did off bitcoin (and bitcoin had naysayers too), and go to the front page on youtube , I have seen at least three mainstream media videos, there is one on the front page of youtube (in Ireland) this forum won't let me post links for some reason.
I get the picture anyways , you don't trust any gurus and I should get rid of my Dinar anyway I can. Well I am not going to do anything just yet I will see if Iraq enters the global market (as the IMF said they would) the first half of 2016, and then I will think about what I should do, ie hold on until they LOP or get out ASAP.
One more thing , do you have any good investment advice to give me? yeah I know get out of Dinar but what do you advise me to do with my money then , what should I put it into? show me how qualified you are to give a bad diagnoses on the Dinar. Thanks guys.

by **Ssmith** Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:31 am

TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs wrote:Jesus you and an argumentative bunch lol , I didn't say people made a fortune from Dinar I said they did off bitcoin (and bitcoin had naysayers too), and go to the front page on youtube , I have seen at least three mainstream media videos, there is one on the front page of youtube (in Ireland) this forum won't let me post links for some reason.
I get the picture anyways , you don't trust any gurus and I should get rid of my Dinar anyway I can. Well I am not going to do anything just yet I will see if Iraq enters the global market (as the IMF said they would) the first half of 2016, and then I will think about what I should do, ie hold on until they LOP or get out ASAP.
One more thing , do you have any good investment advice to give me? yeah I know get out of Dinar but what do you advise me to do with my money then , what should I put it into? show me how qualified you are to give a bad diagnoses on the Dinar. Thanks guys.

Just to refresh your memory.... It was you who asked the question:

"So do any of you guys think I should hang on? , or should I just fly to Iraq and exchange and get out ASAP? Thanks."

by **kenlej** Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:48 am

GOLD AND SILVER. I SURE CAN'T EXPLAIN WHY THE MARKET REBOUNDED EXCEPT IT BEING MANIPULATED LIKE OIL BUT WITH THE BALTIC DRY INDEX UNDER 400 THERE'S NOT ANY TRADE GOING ACROSS THE SEAS AND KEEP YOUR EYE ON SAUDI ARABIA BECAUSE THE HOUSE THAT SAUD BUILT IS A DECK OF CARDS AND WHEN IT COMES CRUMBLING DOWN OIL WILL BE BACK OVER $100 A BARREL WATCH AND SEE!!!!

by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:31 am

Ssmith wrote:

Just to refresh your memory.... It was you who asked the question:
So do any of you guys think I should hang on? , or should I just fly to Iraq and exchange and get out ASAP? Thanks."

Yes , and your point is?

by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:57 am

On Iraqi Dinar being in the mainstream media (I have seen about three videos) ,try putting this into your youtube search engine to see one of them,

"Jim Cramer of Mad Money Talks About Iraqi Dinar"

by **chilimama** Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:03 pm

TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs wrote:On Iraqi Dinar being in the mainstream media (I have seen about three videos) ,try putting this into your youtube search engine to see one of them,

"Jim Cramer of Mad Money Talks About Iraqi Dinar"

WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT HE SAYS NOW, THAT VIDEO IS FROM 2009. GET RID OF IT IF YOU WANT, OR DON'T. IT'S UP TO YOU. JUST DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH AND DON'T LISTEN TO THE SCAMMING LYING GURUS.

by **Ssmith** Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:17 pm

TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs wrote:
Ssmith wrote:

Just to refresh your memory.... It was you who asked the question:
So do any of you guys think I should hang on? , or should I just fly to Iraq and exchange and get out ASAP? Thanks."
Yes , and your point is?

The point is that you asked a question. Several people took their time to reply and then you want them to show you their "qualifications" for their answer. Perhaps I misunderstood what you were asking?

You asked:
"So do any of you guys think I should hang on? I should get rid of my Dinar anyway I can. , or should I just fly to Iraq and exchange and get out ASAP?"

After receiving several replies, you then come back with this:
"show me how qualified you are to give a bad diagnoses on the Dinar."

by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:23 pm

chilimama wrote:
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs wrote:On Iraqi Dinar being in the mainstream media (I have seen about three videos) ,try putting this into your youtube search engine to see one of them,

"Jim Cramer of Mad Money Talks About Iraqi Dinar"
WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT HE SAYS NOW, THAT VIDEO IS FROM 2009. GET RID OF IT IF YOU WANT, OR DON'T. IT'S UP TO YOU. JUST DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH AND DON'T LISTEN TO THE SCAMMING LYING GURUS.

Hi Chillmama , yes I would like to hear what he says now , have you got a link , I know that most of the gurus are lying so and so's , but I am not so sure about Breitling , but I know now that you guys are.
My only point about the mainstream media is it must be plausible if it is on the media , even if it was just once in the passed it must be plausible (and I have seen three) , if it was impossible to make money from it then it wouldn't have gotten passed the mainstream media.Just my (uneducated) opinion .

by **kenlej** Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:24 pm

IF YOU LISTENED TO JIM CRAMER NO WONDER YOU HAVE 20 MILLION DINAR LMAO I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHO WOULD LISTEN TO HIM THAT'S WHY HE'S ON CNBC LMAO I BET YOU INVESTED WITH MADOFF TOO LMAO
omg

by **kenlej** Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:28 pm

I HEAR THERE'S AN ENERGY GIANT CALLED ENRON TO INVEST IN TOO!!!!!
K - What to do with my 20.000.000 Dinar? 3508649203

by **Ssmith** Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:39 pm

TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs wrote:
chilimama wrote:
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs wrote:On Iraqi Dinar being in the mainstream media (I have seen about three videos) ,try putting this into your youtube search engine to see one of them,

"Jim Cramer of Mad Money Talks About Iraqi Dinar"
WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT HE SAYS NOW, THAT VIDEO IS FROM 2009. GET RID OF IT IF YOU WANT, OR DON'T. IT'S UP TO YOU. JUST DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH AND DON'T LISTEN TO THE SCAMMING LYING GURUS.
Hi Chillmama , yes I would like to hear what he says now , have you got a link , I know that most of the gurus are lying so and so's , but I am not so sure about Breitling , but I know now that you guys are.
My only point about the mainstream media is it must be plausible if it is on the media , even if it was just once in the passed it must be plausible (and I have seen three) , if it was impossible to make money from it then it wouldn't have gotten passed the mainstream media.Just my (uneducated) opinion .

The FBI is doing an investigation. They say it's a scam and is asking for information from victims.

Iraqi Dinar Investment Investigation

The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and Internal Revenue Service – Criminal Investigation (IRS-CI) are investigating a currency investment scheme involving the Iraqi dinar and certain other foreign currencies. Since the 2003 Iraq war, various promoters have claimed that the Iraqi dinar will undergo a “revaluation” (RV), meaning that dinar holders would make enormous profits. Many of these promoters claim to have high-level sources in the government or the financial industry. Several state agencies, major financial institutions, and consumer protection groups have cautioned that this is a scam.

If you or a relative have been told that you will make enormous profits from the purchase of the Iraqi dinar, Vietnamese dong, Indonesian rupiah, or other foreign currency, the FBI encourages you to complete this victim questionnaire.

https://forms.fbi.gov/iraqi-dinar-investment-investigation

by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:50 pm

SSmith , I know that the gurus are messing everyone around scamming people, but the currency itself has the potential to go up in value , how likely that is I really don't know , but if it is on the mainstream media then it must have potential.

kenlej, you are not coming across as being very likable.

by **Ponee** Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:51 pm

I will never be the one to tell anyone to get rid of their dinar. If, against all odds, it should happen to RV, I would never forgive myself for that. But, I agree with Chilimama. DO NOT listen to a single Guru or Intel Provider. They are all fakes and liars. Do your own research, use common sense and know your financial limits.

by Sandnsea Mon Mar 14, 2016 2:27 pm

IMO- you have had it this long, and if you are not in need of the money to live, I'd hold on as so much is happening now in Iraq But this is just my opinion. I am still holding on to mine.

by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:49 pm

Ssmith wrote:
TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs wrote:
Ssmith wrote:

Just to refresh your memory.... It was you who asked the question:
So do any of you guys think I should hang on? , or should I just fly to Iraq and exchange and get out ASAP? Thanks."
Yes , and your point is?

The point is that you asked a question. Several people took their time to reply and then you want them to show you their "qualifications" for their answer. Perhaps I misunderstood what you were asking?

You asked:
"So do any of you guys think I should hang on? I should get rid of my Dinar anyway I can. , or should I just fly to Iraq and exchange and get out ASAP?"

After receiving several replies, you then come back with this:
"show me how qualified you are to give a bad diagnoses on the Dinar."

Yes Smithy , I just wanted to make sure that the people giving me advice new what they were talking about , no big deal, plus I want to make sure (as I seen in another thread here) that the people giving me advice are not the CBI or the CIA or whoever looking for me to part with my Dinar. I gather that this site is very anti Dinar , I just wanted to hear their case and at the same time make sure that they are qualified. Me I don't know Jack about the Dinar , I can't say if it will RV, Lop or neither , but as I was advised (here) I have held on this long and I don't need the money so as of now so I will hang on to it, (for now). Thanks

by **Ssmith** Mon Mar 14, 2016 5:27 pm

I really don't think you have to worry about the CBI wanting to buy your dinar. After all, they sold it in the range of .0008/IQD to 1 USD. I seriously doubt they are wanting it back and having to pay you $3.00 or whatever amount you are hoping for.

by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:34 pm

Ssmith wrote:I really don't think you have to worry about the CBI wanting to buy your dinar. After all, they sold it in the range of .0008/IQD to 1 USD. I seriously doubt they are wanting it back and having to pay you $3.00 or whatever amount you are hoping for.

Well I just don't know for sure what the CBI will or won't do to get their notes back , word on the street is they are reducing the note count to one billion notes (from nine billion notes) ,the reason why is debatable , but we just don't know for sure. And since the CBI sold it in the range of .0008/IQD to 1 USD a lot has changed and has happened , (there was 30 trillion Dinar in circulation , and the note count was 9 billion, has any of that changed? I just don't know for sure), when I purchased there was multiple bombs going off in and around Baghdad every day , they didn't even have a seated Government or a Prime Minister, a lot has changed but it has never been reflected in the exchange rate of the currency, so I don't know for sure what the CBI will or won't do in order to get my Dinar.
There are some who believe that there is an organized conspiracy of sorts to get our Dinar out of our possession, and I can't say for sure if they are right or wrong, I just have no way of being sure. So I ain't taking any chances.

by Sandnsea Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:56 pm

Bravo

by **RamblerNash** Mon Mar 14, 2016 6:59 pm

TheArtistFormerlyKnownAs wrote:On Iraqi Dinar being in the mainstream media (I have seen about three videos) ,try putting this into your youtube search engine to see one of them,

"Jim Cramer of Mad Money Talks About Iraqi Dinar"

...

...

Here is Ali Agha, owner of D-Trade in "Mainstream Media"

Where is Ali now? What are his customers saying about him today?

10 years ago was much different than 5 years ago, which is very different than today.

Look at the facts and do your own independent research.