Sem with his thinking on 'groups.'

12-28-14 Sem: OK, I am going to state what I think will happen with the groups.  This is way more than an educated guess.

The major Privates are to go first. Those contracted with the Chinese Government will happen first.  This is to happen now, as in very soon. Things are aligned for this.  Unless you have direct source information, you won't know until it happens. I suspect there are not many on here with that direct information.

The other "groups" will lag a little behind.  The "internet groups" are the ones that are in question.  I hope, because I am part of both that they occur close to each other but, really don't think so.

The "public" I think has an issue for a while.

This latest invention where people like you and me are somehow a part of an 'Internet Group' because we look in on gurus and such is bizarre.  Especially when you consider the issue of trying to identify members of a 'group' from a bank's perspective.  

Does anyone really believe that the Internet Group would have the same leverage as an organized and recognized group?  Do you think that members of this ad hoc Internet Group is likely to be offered a 'contract rate' that people seem to think is going to be available?

Ah, but don't forget Cascadian, Tony's group (and presumably the other "groups" on the Internet) are hidden from the eyes of the plebs. Tony's implied it more than once. People like you and me don't know they exist, and that's how the PTB want it. Otherwise EVERYBODY would be wise to this great investment and would be looking to cash in. Er sorry, "exchange".

That's why you won't hear about it all over the Internet; Tony and Pam don't tweet about it on Twitter; the conference calls are secret, information isn't passed along on forums like this...

Sem ... do yourself and us a favor and don't try to think ... you'll just hurt yourself ... let phoney tell you.