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Post by DLWard Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:10 am

And There Is More: Obama Executive Order 13575 Rural Councils


Be sure to read the last paragraph of Mark Knoller



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10 Poorest Cities in America
VERY INTERESTING E-MAIL ALL THE WAY TO THE END....
10 Poorest Cities in America and how did it happen
City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
1. Detroit , MI 32.5%
2. Buffalo , NY 29.9%
3. Cincinnati , OH 27.8%
4. Cleveland , OH 27.0%
5. Miami , FL 26.9%
5. St. Louis , MO 26.8%
7. El Paso , TX 26.4%
8. Milwaukee , WI 26.2%
9. Philadelphia , PA 25.1%
10. Newark , NJ 24.2%

U.S. Census Bureau, 2006 American Community Survey, August 2007
What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all have in common?


Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961
Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954
Cincinnati, OH - (3rd).. since 1984
Cleveland, OH - (4th)... since 1989
Miami, FL - (5th) has never had a Republican mayor
St. Louis, MO - (6th)... since 1949
El Paso, TX - (7th) has never had a Republican mayor
[.and this in spite of having a U.S. military base on our side of the Rio Grande: Ft. Bliss.]
Milwaukee , WI - (8th)...since 1908
Philadelphia, PA - (9th)... since 1952
Newark, NJ - (10th)... since 1907.


Einstein once said,
'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again
and expecting different results.'
It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats .... yet they are still POOR.


"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up
by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man
by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage
by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them,
what they could and should do for themselves."
Abraham Lincoln


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Complete list of President Obamas firsts

• First President to Violate the War Powers Act

• First President to Orchestrate the Sale of Murder Weapons to Mexican Drug Cartels

• First President to be Held in Contempt of Court for Illegally Obstructing Oil Drilling in the Gulf of Mexico

• First President to Defy a Federal Judge's Court Order to Cease Implementing the 'Health Care Reform' Law

• First President to Require All Americans to Purchase a Product From a Third Party

• First President to Spend a Trillion Dollars on 'Shovel-Ready' Jobs --

and Later Admit There Was No Such Thing as Shovel-Ready Jobs

• First President to Abrogate Bankruptcy Law to Turn Over Control of Companies to His Union Supporters

• First President to Demand a Company Hand Over $20 Billion to One of His Political Appointees

• First President to Encourage Racial Discrimination and Intimidation at Polling Places

• First President to Arbitrarily Declare an Existing Law Unconstitutional and Refuse to Enforce It

• First President to Threaten Insurance Companies if they Publicly Speak out on the Reasons for their Rate Increases

• First President to Tell a Major Manufacturing Company In Which State They Are Allowed to Locate a Factory

• First President to Withdraw an Existing Coal Permit That Had Been Properly Issued Years Ago

• First President to Fire an Inspector General of Americorps for Catching One of His Friends in a Corruption Case

• First President to Propose an Executive Order Demanding Companies Disclose Their Political Contributions to

Bid on Government Contracts

• First President to Golf 73 Separate Times in His First Two-and-a-Half Years in Office

But remember: he will not rest until all Americans have jobs, affordable homes, green-energy vehicles,

and the environment is repaired, etc., etc., etc.

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This is from Mark Knoller of CBS. The pilots and crew of Air Force One are flying more hours than a rookie on a beer run. They are tired of it too, and are adding more crew to Air Force-1, - I know this for a fact because I'm one of the instructors that trains the crews Our company (Atlas Air) has had the Air Force-1 and E-4 contract for over two years and I've been doing it for about 8 months now.
Last year (2010) Obama flew in Air Force One 172 times, almost every other day.
White House officials have been telling reporters in recent days that the Democrat doesn't intend to hang around the White House quite so much in 2011. They explain he wants to get out more around the country because, as everyone knows, that midterm election shellacking on Nov. 2 had nothing to do with his health care bill, over-spending or other policies, and everything to do with Obama's not adequately explaining himself to his countrymen and women.
And with only 673 days remaining in Obama's never ending presidential campaign, the incumbent's travel pace will not likely slacken.
At an Air Force-estimated cost of $181,757 per flight HOUR (not to mention the additional travel costs of Marine One, Secret Service, logistics and local police overtime), that's a lot of frequent flier dollars going into Obama's carbon footprint.
We are privy to some of these numbers thanks to CBS' Mark Knoller, a bearded national treasure trove of presidential stats. According to Knoller's copious notes, during the last year, Obama made 65 domestic trips over 104 days, and six trips to eight countries over 22 days. Not counting six vacation trips over 32 days.
He took 196 helicopter trips, signed 203 pieces of legislation and squeezed in 29 rounds of left-handed golf.
Obama last year gave 491 speeches, remarks or statements. That's more talking than goes on in some entire families, at least from fatherly mouths.
In fact, even including the 24 days of 2010 that we never saw Obama in public, his speaking works out to about one official utterance every 11 waking hours. Aides indicate the "Real Good Talker" believes we need more.
Related: Obama spends nearly half his presidency outside Washington , plans to travel more
Related: Vacationer-in-Chief Spends $1.75 Million to Visit Hawaiian Chums
Obama has spent over $100 million taxpayer dollars flying around in Air Force One, and probably another $100 million on his entourage. Obama is just another tin-pot dictator living lavishly at the expense of his subjects.
And we seniors have to "tighten our belts" because we aren't getting a COLA again this year... and none last year!

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Post by Captsalt Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:28 am

Excellant post! I have seen this information before but needed to see it again and WILL copy it this time!
That imposter has GOT to go! Come on elections! (Hopefully, the country can hang on until then)

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Post by viktor Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:48 pm

Some of you are so quick to find fault and
blame Obama for anything and everything. Try checking out the facts. This answers one of trhe false accusations from Mark Knoller. The fact is GWB flew more than any president ever has. I swear some of you are so gullable, that you will be broke within six months of the RV takeing place. Have a nice life.


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The Traveling President



July 8, 2011





Q: Is President Obama flying on Air Force One more than other presidents did? Is he being accompanied by more people on international trips?

A: Two chain e-mails suggesting that the president's travel habits are more excessive than his predecessors are off base.



FULL QUESTION

Is it true that Air Force One pilots and crew are flying President Obama more than President Bush? And that he flew 172 times in 2010?


This is from Mark Knoller of CBS.

The pilots and crew of Air Force One are flying more hours than a rookie on a beer run. They are tired of it too, and are adding more crew to Air Force-1, – I know this for a fact because I'm one of the instructors that trains the crews Our company (Atlas Air) has had the Air Force-1 and E-4 contract for over two years and I've been doing it for about 8 months now.

Last year (2010) Obama flew in Air Force One 172 times, almost every other day.

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Can you fact check this article…. I found that it was written in March of 2009, but I don't know if all the facts are true.


If you're not sure what "big government" implies, take a look at this.

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FULL ANSWER

Our inbox has been inundated with questions about two separate chain e-mails about President Barack Obama's use of Air Force One in 2010, and about the number of people who accompanied him on a trip to England in 2009. But the suggestion that Obama is traveling more often on the presidential plane, and traveling with larger entourages on international trips than past presidents, is badly mistaken.

The first e-mail forwarded to us by numerous readers claims that "Obama flew in Air Force One 172 times, almost every other day" last year. That's based on a blog post written by the Los Angeles Times' Andrew Malcolm, who got his figures from veteran CBS News reporter Mark Knoller. But figures provided to FactCheck.org by the Air Force's 89th Airlift Wing show that Obama traveled less on Air Force One last year, and in his first two years, than President George W. Bush did.

The second frequently forwarded chain e-mail includes a column from Dale McFeatters of the Scripps Howard News Service. The column says that Obama — when he traveled to London in 2009 for an economic summit of the G-20 nations, not his most recent trip to London in May of this year — "arrived with 500 staff in tow, including 200 Secret Service agents, a team of six doctors, the White House chef and kitchen staff with the president's own food and water." But even assuming that the report is accurate, we also found government and news reports on the international travel of previous presidents that show they at times traveled with as many or more people as Obama reportedly did in 2009, and with similar personnel.

Obama's Air Force One Travel

Contrary to what the e-mail about Obama's use of Air Force One suggests, Mark Knoller of CBS News is not the author of this e-mail. The portion of the e-mail beginning with the line, "Last year Obama flew in Air Force One 172 times, almost every other day," through the line, "Aides indicate the 'Real Good Talker' believes we need more," was written by Andrew Malcolm of the Los Angeles Times. Malcolm plucked several figures from Knoller's piece, which was titled "Obama's 2010: By the Numbers," for his own blog post titled "Obama and Air Force One: It's good to have a 747." Everything else about the Atlas Air training crew and the costs to taxpayers, which we'll get to later, was added by the anonymous author of this e-mail, who lifted Malcolm's piece.

It is true that Knoller originally reported in his 2010 year-end article that Obama took 172 flights on Air Force One in the second year of his presidency. And that does work out to be almost one flight every other day, as Malcolm wrote in his own blog post.

We checked with the U.S. Air Force's 89th Airlift Wing, which oversees the president's travel on Air Force One, to see what it had for the number of flights taken by Obama last year. The statistics the 89th Airlift Wing provided to us show that the president took 72 total "missions" and 177 total "sorties" in 2010. Missions are the number of trips the president took from Andrews Air Force Base and back, whereas sorties represent the number of individual flights in a mission.

For example, a log of the president's travel from June 23-24, 2011, shows him departing from Andrews Air Force Base at 1:00 pm on June 23 and arriving back at the base at 1:40 pm on June 24, with multiple stops in between:


Obama Travel Schedule

1:00 PM: The President departs Joint Base Andrews en route Fort Drum, New York

2:15 PM: The President arrives Fort Drum, New York

3:10 PM: The President meets with Gold Star Families

4:15 PM: The President departs Fort Drum en route New York City, New York

5:10 PM: The President arrives New York City, New York

7:05 PM: The President delivers remarks at a DNC event

8:00 PM: The President delivers remarks at a DNC event

9:50 PM: The President delivers remarks at a DNC event

11:05 PM: The President departs New York City, New York en route Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

12:15 AM: The President arrives Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

10:45 AM: The President tours Carnegie Mellon University's National Robotics Engineering Center (NREC)

11:00 AM: The President delivers remarks on the need to focus on cross-cutting technologies that will enhance the global competitiveness of U.S. manufacturing and speed up ideas from the drawing board to the manufacturing floor

12:45 PM: The President departs Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

1:40 PM: The President arrives at Andrews Air Force Base

Source: 89th Airlift Wing

This would be counted as one mission and four sorties, according to the airlift group.

So, the Air Force has a slightly higher count for flights than Knoller — 177 versus 172. But Maj. Shelly Lai, public affairs director of the 89th Airlift Wing, said that just reporting the number of sorties could also potentially give readers the wrong impression about the number of times Obama has actually left Washington on Air Force One.


Maj. Lai, July 5: There is just a difference between how the information is being represented. Most people consider the time you leave your home to the time you return to be one trip. Even if they made multiple stops while they were out. It's the same in this instance. When people hear a 177 trips, they believe that means the President left DC a 177 times. As you can see, that isn't the case.

To put Obama's use of Air Force One into context, we also asked for travel data for his predecessor, President George W. Bush. Bush took 89 missions and 259 sorties in 2002, his second year as president, according to the airlift group. And in his first two years, Bush took 148 missions with 416 sorties, compared with 126 missions with 324 sorties for Obama over two years.

As for the e-mail's other claims: It is true that Atlas Air was awarded a government contract to train Air Force One pilots and engineers. But we don't know if the anonymous author of this e-mail — who claims to be one of the company's training instructors — is relaying an honest account of the way the crew feels about the president's travel. We also don't know if Obama "spent over $100 million taxpayer dollars flying around in Air Force One" last year, or during his entire presidency. The 89th Airlift Wing didn't have many of the figures we would need to calculate this — such as total flight hours for each year, and a breakdown of each jet used by the president to travel and its operating cost.

Obama's Travels Abroad

When Obama traveled to London in March 2009 to attend a meeting of the G-20 nations, it was part of a longer eight-day trip across Europe, in which the president visited five countries total, including stops in France, Germany, Turkey and the Czech Republic. Several British news organizations, citing unnamed officials, reported that Obama was traveling with an entourage of as many as 500 people when he arrived in London, the first stop of the trip.

A column written by Dale McFeatters of the Scripps Howard News Service in 2009 also made the claim that "Obama arrived with 500 staff in tow, including 200 Secret Service agents, a team of six doctors, the White House chef and kitchen staff with the president's own food and water." That column is included in a chain e-mail that has been forwarded to us dozens of times in the last year. McFeatters also wrote: "And, according to the Evening Standard, he also came with '35 vehicles in all, four speech writers and 12 teleprompters.' "

We have not been able to independently confirm any of the figures reported by McFeatters or members of the British press. The White House would not comment on details of presidential travel, a spokeswoman told us. Both the White House and the Secret Service typically cite security concerns in declining to comment. But if the figures about the number of individuals traveling with the president are indeed accurate, it would not be anything new for a modern U.S. president on an overseas trip.

When President Bush traveled to England in the fall of 2003 for a state visit, the Guardian reported that "Mr. Bush, his wife, Laura, and a 700-strong entourage worthy of a travelling medieval monarch, flew into Heathrow airport." And the Telegraph broke it down further, reporting that "Mr. Bush will be accompanied by a retinue consisting of 250 members of the Secret Service, 150 advisers from the National Security Department, 200 representatives of other government departments and 50 political aides." Also traveling with the president were "his personal chef, personal assistants, four cooks, medics and the presidential 15-strong sniffer dog team," according to the report.

In 1999, the General Accounting Office (now the Government Accountability Office) issued a report detailing the amount of planning and personnel support that went into executing President Bill Clinton's foreign trips to Africa, Chile and China in 1998.

According to the GAO, nearly 500 people played a role in Clinton's nine-day trip across China, either traveling with the president, providing support to the delegation of travelers, or traveling to China earlier as a part of several advance teams that assisted in the planning of the president's trip. And nearly 600 were involved in Clinton's five-day trip to Chile that year, and nearly 1,300 were a part of Clinton's 11-day trip across Africa as well. And those totals did not include members of the Secret Service or non-federal officials and private citizens who later reimbursed the government for their travel costs, GAO said.

Also, Larry Speakes, press secretary to President Ronald Reagan, was quoted by John Hendren of the States News Service in 1992, saying: "I would say on some of the (Reagan administration's) European trips we had like 700 to 800 people involved, excluding the press corps."

The e-mail's anonymous author also makes much of the claim that Obama traveled with a team of doctors. "You and I may never see health care again the way it used to be, but 'Emperor Obama' took six (6) doctors with him for a 3 day visit to London." But in its 1999 report, the GAO said that members of the White House Medical Unit typically travel with the president on foreign trips in case they are needed.

Obama may or may not have traveled with 500 people to London in 2009. We can't say for sure. But whether one believes that presidents could get by with less help during international trips or not, it's wrong to suggest that such a large traveling entourage would be unusual.

Note: Some readers who forwarded this chain e-mail to us seemed to believe that McFeatters' column referred to Obama's most recent trip to London in May. But he wrote that column at the time of the president's trip two years earlier.

A Continuing Pattern

These latest chain e-mails are part of a continuing pattern of indignant, anonymous authors spreading false and misleading claims about the travels of the president and the first lady.

In November 2010, we wrote about the "highly doubtful" claim that Obama's trip to India would cost $200 million each day. That figure was based on only one report from an Indian news organization that cited an unnamed official, with no additional evidence to support the claim. The White House called the claim "wildly exaggerated."

In July 2009, we wrote about another chain e-mail that complained that the first lady used taxpayer money to take her daughters and her mother on a European vacation. While taxpayers were on the hook for some of the cost of transporting the first family, and for providing security for them, no taxpayer money was used for their personal expenses.

In October 2008, we wrote about the false claim that Michelle Obama spent nearly $450 on room service at the Waldorf-Astoria hotel in New York City that year. Not only did Obama not stay at that hotel when she was in the city, according to her husband's then-presidential campaign, she hadn't yet arrived in New York by the time the bogus receipt claimed she had ordered room service.

– D'Angelo Gore

Sources

Knoller, Mark, CBS News. E-mail Sent to FactCheck.org. 7 Jun 2011.

Lai, Shelly, Maj., 89th Airlift Wing Public Affairs Director. E-mail Sent to FactCheck.org. 5 Jul 2011.

Bedingfeld, Kate, White House Associate Communications Director. E-mail Sent to FactCheck.org. 27 Jun 2011.

"Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings, Inc. To Continue Training Air Force One And E-4B Aircrews." Reuters. 10 Sep 2010.

Gammel, Caroline. "G20 summit: Barack Obama's UK visit planned in minute detail." The Telegraph. 30 Mar 2009.

Harris, Paul, and Robin McKie. "Prospect of Barack Obama show causes UK to clear its decks." The Observer. 29 Mar 2009.

Thompson, Paul. "Here comes top-security travelling White House." London Evening Standard. 30 Mar 2009.

McFeatters, Dale. "An Entourage surpassing the queen's." Editorial. Scripps Howard News Service. 31 Mar 2009.

White, Michael, and Ewen MacAskill. "Laura, me and 700 friends." The Guardian. 19 Nov 2003.

Russel, Alec. "Bush's flying circus leaves out only the kitchen sink." The Telegraph. 15 Nov 2003.

General Accounting Office. "Presidential Travel: Costs and Accounting for the President's 1998 Trips to Africa, Chile, and China." Sept 1999.

Hendren, John. "Bush's Massive Entourage Mobilized In Japan." States News Service. 10 Jan 1992.



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Post by trae Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:01 pm

I find it very interesting that anytime anyone says anything about Obama, someone has to get their panties in a wad....wake up folks....presidents have been scrutinized since the begining of time! Get over it! Everyone has the right to an opinion. As do those who have a minor stroke everytime someone doesn't want to give Obama a hug and a pat on the back.......whatever......

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Post by Duckyboy Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:21 pm

trae wrote:I find it very interesting that anytime anyone says anything about Obama, someone has to get their panties in a wad....wake up folks....presidents have been scrutinized since the begining of time! Get over it! Everyone has the right to an opinion. As do those who have a minor stroke everytime someone doesn't want to give Obama a hug and a pat on the back.......whatever......

I agree and I find O offensive, to say the least.... he is the idiot in charge of all this carnage
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Post by SemperFi Sat Jul 30, 2011 3:39 pm

Duckyboy wrote:
trae wrote:I find it very interesting that anytime anyone says anything about Obama, someone has to get their panties in a wad....wake up folks....presidents have been scrutinized since the begining of time! Get over it! Everyone has the right to an opinion. As do those who have a minor stroke everytime someone doesn't want to give Obama a hug and a pat on the back.......whatever......

I agree and I find O offensive, to say the least.... he is the idiot in charge of all this carnage

I will have to agree until I see otherwise.

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Post by kendorie Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:29 pm

Whether all this article is true or only partially true, you would have to have your head buried pretty deep in the sand not to see, with your own eyes and intelligence that the "man in charge" has nothing good planned for America and Americans.

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Post by viktor Sat Jul 30, 2011 4:30 pm

As was GWB that really contributed to this mess we're in now, which actually started back to Reagan

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