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Post by bigcitybob Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:02 am

I am such a believer in this group, that I cant express my thanks for your inspiring work. But Can any and i mean ANY of you guys tell us what you think? This idea of ANY minute hour day stuff is kinda gettin old..I guess im in fear of being one of those people who has been here for 4 years telling the newbies that I have been hearing the same ole hype for 4 years ! LOL.

1. Thought the intel said the budget starts today at thr RV;d rate

2.What ever happened to the UST? They been like in solitary confinement now for 3 weeks in lockdown.

3.The real tip is, Iraq is still in chapter 7.common sense says there will be no RV until its lifted.I have no intel.

Cmon Shabbs Push the frikken button already!!!
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Post by IQD4US Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:17 am

Not the most intelligent person on these sites, I believe I can address some of the concerns.

The budget for Iraq DOES start with the new year - but they are on holiday today and probably tomorrow - but tomorrow is a guess. I do know that our banks are closed today AND tomorrow.

Reports of Lockdown at the UST - sorry - don't buy it for a minute.

It is the CBI that controlls the rate of the currency - and Shabibi did hold a position at the IMF - he understand finance and is a financial wizzard.

Realistically - Iraq is not concerned with how their action will benefit the rest of the world. Shabibi is Iraqi and will look out for the best interests of Iraq.

It makes since that they would RV - HOWEVER - they don't have to right now. I did find it encouraging (and I posted the article) that they have put in the news that they will have to teach people about the new bank processes.

I agree - it is getting old - but with the research I have done for myself - this is the first window that makes since - end of month/quarter/year and new budget.

If not this weekend - I personally don't see it as a posibility to be any day any minute but will have to research and watch inflation rates - meetings with UN/IMF/WTO - not the everyday boards that say were there.

It is coming - just not on our time.
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Post by tootles Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:29 am

bigcitybob wrote:I am such a believer in this group, that I cant express my thanks for your inspiring work. But Can any and i mean ANY of you guys tell us what you think? This idea of ANY minute hour day stuff is kinda gettin old..I guess im in fear of being one of those people who has been here for 4 years telling the newbies that I have been hearing the same ole hype for 4 years ! LOL.

1. Thought the intel said the budget starts today at thr RV;d rate

2.What ever happened to the UST? They been like in solitary confinement now for 3 weeks in lockdown.

3.The real tip is, Iraq is still in chapter 7.common sense says there will be no RV until its lifted.I have no intel.

Cmon Shabbs Push the frikken button already!!!


Thank you bigcitybob for your input. You are talking about the RV and questioning the guru's WITHOUT being negative or bashing. I just wanted to point this out to all of you (and you know who you are) who bash and put negative input on this site. Bigcitybob addressed some issues without the ugliness of bashing. Read his style and make a note PLEASE. It's a new year, so let's get off on a good foot and be positive and happy. It is stressful that the RV hasn't taken place yet, but it will. We all have to practice our patience. Thanks again bigcitybob! Ilikeyou Ilikeyou Ilikeyou
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Post by tootles Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:30 am

IQD4US wrote:Not the most intelligent person on these sites, I believe I can address some of the concerns.

The budget for Iraq DOES start with the new year - but they are on holiday today and probably tomorrow - but tomorrow is a guess. I do know that our banks are closed today AND tomorrow.

Reports of Lockdown at the UST - sorry - don't buy it for a minute.

It is the CBI that controlls the rate of the currency - and Shabibi did hold a position at the IMF - he understand finance and is a financial wizzard.

Realistically - Iraq is not concerned with how their action will benefit the rest of the world. Shabibi is Iraqi and will look out for the best interests of Iraq.

It makes since that they would RV - HOWEVER - they don't have to right now. I did find it encouraging (and I posted the article) that they have put in the news that they will have to teach people about the new bank processes.

I agree - it is getting old - but with the research I have done for myself - this is the first window that makes since - end of month/quarter/year and new budget.

If not this weekend - I personally don't see it as a posibility to be any day any minute but will have to research and watch inflation rates - meetings with UN/IMF/WTO - not the everyday boards that say were there.

It is coming - just not on our time.


IQD4US...you too posted a positive response and it is greatly appreciated! Thank you sooooo much! Ilikeyou Ilikeyou Ilikeyou
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Post by Ponee Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:49 am

TOOTLES - Love your style!
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Post by Guest Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:57 am

I have as much intel as you at this point in time. The CBI has not updated since the 29th of Dec. 2011 and will not until after the holiday. I am going to wait until after then, see what takes place and make decisions based upon what I see at that point. Until then enjoy the day and the next. God Bless, AJ

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Post by Guest Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:59 am

God said 365 times "do not fear", that is once every day, if you say "do not fear", then your day will be bright with success. AJ


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Post by Guest Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:01 am

Fear is the biggest motivator of the unsuccessful!

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Post by Catherine Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:16 am

AJAnderson wrote:Fear is the biggest motivator of the unsuccessful!


FEAR: False evidence appearing real. (I think that is how it goes!!)

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Post by DinarPhoenix Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:37 am

Love IQD4US post. You dont need to be a guru, just take what is known and apply common sense and good old fashion Vulcan Logic
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Post by lynx69 Sun Jan 01, 2012 11:56 am

In regard to #3, it is my understanding that the RV can happen before C7 is lifted, but C7cannot be lifted before the RV has occurred. They can RV and still be under sanctions, (Until, the whales and politico have cashed out?)


bigcitybob wrote:I am such a believer in this group, that I cant express my thanks for your inspiring work. But Can any and i mean ANY of you guys tell us what you think? This idea of ANY minute hour day stuff is kinda gettin old..I guess im in fear of being one of those people who has been here for 4 years telling the newbies that I have been hearing the same ole hype for 4 years ! LOL.

1. Thought the intel said the budget starts today at thr RV;d rate

2.What ever happened to the UST? They been like in solitary confinement now for 3 weeks in lockdown.

3.The real tip is, Iraq is still in chapter 7.common sense says there will be no RV until its lifted.I have no intel.

Cmon Shabbs Push the frikken button already!!!
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Post by landcareunlimited Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:08 pm

Lynx69...you are correct. If you review the specifics of the UN sanctions you will see that a stable currency is a PREREQUISITE for removal from CH VII. Lifting CH VII sanctions will allow the currency to be traded internationally...not just in the US, England and Australia.

Is the currency stable? Hardly, or the dollar would not be the currency of choice in over 40% of transactions. Shabbibi already publicly stated they wanted the "strongest currency in the Arab world'. That simply cannot happen without and RI or RV. The only question is when. I was encouraged by Maliki's comments yesterday regarding the urgency to remove Iraq from CH VII. You connect the dots.
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Post by therealbutterfly Sun Jan 01, 2012 12:36 pm

landcareunlimited wrote:Lynx69...you are correct. If you review the specifics of the UN sanctions you will see that a stable currency is a PREREQUISITE for removal from CH VII. Lifting CH VII sanctions will allow the currency to be traded internationally...not just in the US, England and Australia.

Is the currency stable? Hardly, or the dollar would not be the currency of choice in over 40% of transactions. Shabbibi already publicly stated they wanted the "strongest currency in the Arab world'. That simply cannot happen without and RI or RV. The only question is when. I was encouraged by Maliki's comments yesterday regarding the urgency to remove Iraq from CH VII. You connect the dots.


Shabs has touted for a few years now about how STABLE the dinar is and it has been stated by him and the IMF that they are a strong currency. Strongest does NOT mean highest rate.
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Dinar Phoenix, what an avatar... WOW.... Had to take a 2nd look at that one...

Did anyone ever notice what a beautiful site we have? So many striking avatars. Full of color... Nothing boring here for sure...

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Post by bigdaddytim Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:28 pm

therealbutterfly, you are absolutely correct! The LOWER the concentration per true value of commodity is truly the strongest!

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Post by happywelshguy Sun Jan 01, 2012 1:54 pm

When you consider the info that havs been given ie: O'Bama not requiring a Dept ceiling increase, Iraq budget beginning on Jan 1st and the fact that there has been announcements by O'Bama, Maliki, United Nations etc, that Iraq is a Soverign Country, you get a pretty good picture that the RV has occurred.

I believe that Reuters and the N/Y Times has also made simular comments.

Then consider the info from "ALL THE GURU's " that are stating that the RV will be officially announced and the picture becommes a little clearer. I did say "ALL THE GURU's," as there has been previous inconsistency of information between them, but they are now united in their information.

I'm at peace that the RV will be officially announced in time for the banks opening on Tuesday.

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quote="bigcitybob"]I am such a believer in this group, that I cant express my thanks for your inspiring work. But Can any and i mean ANY of you guys tell us what you think? This idea of ANY minute hour day stuff is kinda gettin old..I guess im in fear of being one of those people who has been here for 4 years telling the newbies that I have been hearing the same ole hype for 4 years ! LOL.

1. Thought the intel said the budget starts today at thr RV;d rate

2.What ever happened to the UST? They been like in solitary confinement now for 3 weeks in lockdown.

3.The real tip is, Iraq is still in chapter 7.common sense says there will be no RV until its lifted.I have no intel.

Cmon Shabbs Push the frikken button already!!![/quote]

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Post by Big Mike Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:38 pm

If I was to say that the rv would not happen next week would you consider that negative?

If I said it would not happen in the month of January would you consider that as negative?

If a guru was to say its going to rv Tuesday,and I said not so would you consider that as negative?

If I was to say that the guru's sources don't know as much as the gurus think would consider that as bashing?

If I was to say that all the guru's need to take responsibility for there actions, calling the rv everyday.Would you consider that bashing?

If I was to say that the guru's are causing more harm than good calling the rv everyday,would you consider that bashing?

If you said yes to any of these, you just may be to weak of a person to be in this investment..

IMO - I think calling the rv everyday causes more negativity...


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Post by Cash Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:49 pm

I am really beginning to wonder about the socalled "info" all these gurus talk about and since all of them, up to today are batting 100% WRONG. How much of their so called "info" is no more than wishful thinking and throwing western logic into a mid eastern mind set which non understand?

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Post by Amarao Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:53 pm

Honestly, is anyone actually surprised that nothing happened?

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Post by Kevind53 Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:54 pm

As we have said time and again, it's not that a person says those things, it is the WAY in which they are all too often said that is the issue. In most cases it comes down to the spirit in which a thing is said. If the intent is to encourage and edify others, that's good and will bear good fruit. It the intent is to attack and tear down, that is bad, and will always yield bad fruit. Everything, everything can be said in a positive way or in a negative way, it's your choice to make, and when you make the wrong one we will be here to help you get back on the right course.

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Post by lynx69 Sun Jan 01, 2012 3:48 pm

Sometimes, I just can't resist.

While you may be correct in stating that so-called "info", (l won't mention the hyphen.(sorry, I guess I did)), is, in the majority, wrong, you had better hope that "They" aren't 100% wrong. If I thought they were, I would sell. Don't forget, someone told them to buy Dinar, and they told you. It seems that if we like something we hold that it may be true, and are disappointed if we find that it is not so.

If a Guru came on and said, daily, that the RV would not happen today, he would only be wrong once, and everyone would forgive him that one mistake.

I would just ask that if you care to comment, negatively, on information that doesn't prove out, that you bring in an equal amount of information that is solid, unquestionable, and verifiable.

See you soon?

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quote="Cash"]I am really beginning to wonder about the socalled "info" all these gurus talk about and since all of them, up to today are batting 100% WRONG. How much of their so called "info" is no more than wishful thinking and throwing western logic into a mid eastern mind set which non understand?[/quote]
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Post by SEBtopdog Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:05 pm

Note to Happy Welsh Guy: President Obama isn't Irish, so it's not O'Bama.

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From your post: "When you consider the info that havs been given ie: O'Bama not requiring a Dept ceiling increase, Iraq budget beginning on Jan 1st and the fact that there has been announcements by O'Bama, Maliki, United Nations etc, that Iraq is a Soverign Country, you get a pretty good picture that the RV has occurred."


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Post by bigdaddytim Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:05 pm

Again I say, come on guys. If you will just rewind back to last New Year's eve, we went through the same drill. Everyone saying that it was done and that it was going to post at any second. Just don't get too excited. Relax and wait for it. It's coming some day soon.

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Post by Amarao Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:14 pm

lynx69 wrote:Sometimes, I just can't resist.

While you may be correct in stating that so-called "info", (l won't mention the hyphen.(sorry, I guess I did)), is, in the majority, wrong, you had better hope that "They" aren't 100% wrong. If I thought they were, I would sell. Don't forget, someone told them to buy Dinar, and they told you. It seems that if we like something we hold that it may be true, and are disappointed if we find that it is not so.

If a Guru came on and said, daily, that the RV would not happen today, he would only be wrong once, and everyone would forgive him that one mistake.

I would just ask that if you care to comment, negatively, on information that doesn't prove out, that you bring in an equal amount of information that is solid, unquestionable, and verifiable.

Firstly, this "-" is a hyphen. I believe what you were talking about are quotation marks.

Secondly I find it funny that you are requesting "solid, unquestionable and verifiable" information from people who dare to point at that these "gurus" were wrong again. Just imagine what would happen if we required that from the "gurus" before we considered their information legitimate.

With all this zealotry towards the "gurus" here, I sometimes wonder if I mistakenly joined a cult instead of an investment...

Nobody is doing you a favor if they are consistently giving you bad information.

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Post by zerhourwriter Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:29 pm

New budget... MEANS NOTHING!

They have a new budget every year. Nothing special. I stopped looking at the released budget 3 years ago. The numbers have been adding up to using (on average) about a $2 dinar. But it has not happened. So another "budget" means nothing.

Believe it or not but people like butterfly are trying to help you.

You guys needs to start trusting people who are providing you info that you can look up yourself... so then... eventually you won't have to trust anyone.

Rumor Gurus say, "You need us because we have connections you don't... but don't ask us who those connections are".

REAL Gurus say, "You need to look it up for yourself. Here's a good place to start. Get back to me with any questions".

Rumor Gurus say, "It's too expensive for me to give you information. I need money".

Real gurus don't have an angle. Neither do they find reasons as to why they need to charge you OR have a site that generates money. They look for ways to bring you information for free, with no kick backs.

Now anything worth having is worth paying for... but with that in mind... well Jesus said it best.

Matthew 10:8

8 Cure sick people, raise up dead persons, make lepers clean, expel demons. YOU received free, give free.

If Jesus expected his Apostles to "cure sick people" and resurrect people FOR FREE!! lol, you really think he's ok with these "Preachers" making ANY money off of INFORMATION? Of course not.

There are plenty of free sites out there the Rumor Gurus could use to get out the "intel" they have for the day. Blogger, freewebs.com, weebly... c'mon people.

heck they could just twitter it. But they DECIDE to have sites with ads and memberships.

Now why do you think that is...

I'm begging you people. Learn for yourself. Knowledge is power. Get some power for yourselves.

But what do I know, I'm just a zero.

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Post by ou812 Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:40 pm

bigdaddytim wrote:Again I say, come on guys. If you will just rewind back to last New Year's eve, we went through the same drill. Everyone saying that it was done and that it was going to post at any second. Just don't get too excited. Relax and wait for it. It's coming some day soon.

But now its all about the algorithm man, the algorithm.

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Post by lynx69 Sun Jan 01, 2012 4:48 pm

Thank you.

Do I strike you as someone who would use "hyphen" improperly? I was referring to his lack of a hyphen in "socalled".

Next, I didn't request information. I simply asked that negativity be challenged with positive, truthful information.

Go back and read what I wrote, and don't confuse that, with what you read. They are two different things. I seem to have temporarily forgotten my first rule. If I have to explain it, I shouldn't have said it. Oddly, that usually refers to jokes that are above my audience's head(s), and yet you thought it was funny that I was requesting something that I wasn't requesting.

I was kidding around with him, but I feel that you have attacked me. Fortunately it takes two to fight, and rather than come down to that level, I will wait, up here.

See you soon?

Blessings.



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lynx69 wrote:Sometimes, I just can't resist.

While you may be correct in stating that so-called "info", (l won't mention the hyphen.(sorry, I guess I did)), is, in the majority, wrong, you had better hope that "They" aren't 100% wrong. If I thought they were, I would sell. Don't forget, someone told them to buy Dinar, and they told you. It seems that if we like something we hold that it may be true, and are disappointed if we find that it is not so.

If a Guru came on and said, daily, that the RV would not happen today, he would only be wrong once, and everyone would forgive him that one mistake.

I would just ask that if you care to comment, negatively, on information that doesn't prove out, that you bring in an equal amount of information that is solid, unquestionable, and verifiable.

Firstly, this "-" is a hyphen. I believe what you were talking about are quotation marks.

Secondly I find it funny that you are requesting "solid, unquestionable and verifiable" information from people who dare to point at that these "gurus" were wrong again. Just imagine what would happen if we required that from the "gurus" before we considered their information legitimate.

With all this zealotry towards the "gurus" here, I sometimes wonder if I mistakenly joined a cult instead of an investment...

Nobody is doing you a favor if they are consistently giving you bad information.
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Post by sandwedge Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:46 pm

Amarao wrote:Honestly, is anyone actually surprised that nothing happened?

Not surprised at all.. As a matter of fact, I expected to wake this morning to gurus calling "new" dates and times. Par for the course with them.

Go RI/RV...
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Post by Kevind53 Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:51 pm

Hey lynx69 ... some good points, it is a lot easier to be the "Monday morning quarterback" than the guy actually making the calls ... maybe that's why we have so many. By the way, Love your avatar ... Walt Kelly was one of my favorite cartoonists ... Don't meet too many Pogo fans these days ... and yes I do know the words to the Pogo version of "Deck the Halls."

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Post by bigcitybob Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:53 pm

ID LOVE TO HEAR FROM OKIE,BULLDOG,BEAR, SCOTTYG OR ANYONE!! THANK YOU A.J. FOR YOUR INPUT
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Post by formula1man Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:15 pm

What dont people understand about its quiet cause their waiting to see it on CBI and at banks on Tuesday? Be patient its coming. Believe more than you did last year. Faith works.

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Post by ou812 Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:23 pm

formula1man wrote:What dont people understand about its quiet cause their waiting to see it on CBI and at banks on Tuesday? Be patient its coming. Believe more than you did last year. Faith works.

The Iraqi people must have no faith at all.

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Post by lynx69 Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:30 pm

Thank you, Kevind53. I assume from your maturity that you were born in 1953. <l8:)


Kevind53 wrote:Hey lynx69 ... some good points, it is a lot easier to be the "Monday morning quarterback" than the guy actually making the calls ... maybe that's why we have so many. By the way, Love your avatar ... Walt Kelly was one of my favorite cartoonists ... Don't meet too many Pogo fans these days ... and yes I do know the words to the Pogo version of "Deck the Halls."

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Post by Kevind53 Sun Jan 01, 2012 6:33 pm

lynx69 wrote:Thank you, Kevind53. I assume from your maturity that you were born in 1953.

Kevind53 wrote:Hey lynx69 ... some good points, it is a lot easier to be the "Monday morning quarterback" than the guy actually making the calls ... maybe that's why we have so many. By the way, Love your avatar ... Walt Kelly was one of my favorite cartoonists ... Don't meet too many Pogo fans these days ... and yes I do know the words to the Pogo version of "Deck the Halls."

NO RV? AJ? JONNYWG? BULLDOG? WHAT GIVES? 949729897 NO RV? AJ? JONNYWG? BULLDOG? WHAT GIVES? 1261280965

Yep, which explains the 53 in my nick. Wink Grew up on Pogo, I think my dad had every Pogo book ever written. Still a favorite of mine. Laughing :study:

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