Tony PTR 11-24-11 Still Looks Great

by czinser Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:31 pm

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Alreadyblessed/Tony post in BSP chat 11/24/11 PM PTR Forum[/url] 11/24/2011

Posted Thursday, 04:03 PM

[alreadyblessed] *"I just got off the phone with Tony and Jonny and others....it still looks great for today, tomorrow and please remember that we know that there are contracts that have been written and signed and are being paid on MONDAY....so GO RV!"**""**""*

Update:

alreadyblessed: just got off the phone w/ Tony and there is more great news coming in....woooo hoooo ..... confirms what they said on the call yesterday!

by openmind Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:37 pm

So contracts are expected to be paid on Monday, cool.

In what way is this related to the RV? Does anyone make a contract where the terms of payment are based on the actions of a Central bank?

It just doesn't make sense to me. If I sell you a product and you say you will pay me, why would you also add that you would pay me in a new currency? Why wouldn't you just pay me in the worth of the product which I sold you? What difference does the RV make, as the value of the service rendered should still be the same?

Maybe one day Tony Renfrow could address this?

by bugsbunny Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:55 pm

I can shed some light to your comment. Iraq monitized their debt which means they are on the metal and comoditiy based ( gold standard) currancy now. What we are waiting for now is the US to follow suit. they will not deal in fiat money as it is worthless. that is the hold up.

by **ADMIN** Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:57 pm

openmind wrote:So contracts are expected to be paid on Monday, cool.

In what way is this related to the RV? Does anyone make a contract where the terms of payment are based on the actions of a Central bank?

It just doesn't make sense to me. If I sell you a product and you say you will pay me, why would you also add that you would pay me in a new currency? Why wouldn't you just pay me in the worth of the product which I sold you? What difference does the RV make, as the value of the service rendered should still be the same?

Maybe one day Tony Renfrow could address this?

WOW ... good point OM... I hadnt thought of that before... Thank you!

by Guest Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:05 pm

This maybe going against some feathers, but, I believe with all the articles coming out in the last few days that the dinar will revalue at .86 and stay there for 2 years or until the CBI brings in most of the larger notes and then we should see an RI, close to Kuwait. AJ

by openmind Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:13 pm

86 cents would be great!

by ragai Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:24 pm

:bball: :bball: :bball:

Thats very much what Delta was saying in Frank's confernce calls for the last 4 months. I agree

:bball: :bball: :bball:

by Guest Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:28 pm

AJAnderson wrote:This maybe going against some feathers, but, I believe with all the articles coming out in the last few days that the dinar will revalue at .86 and stay there for 2 years or until the CBI brings in most of the larger notes and then we should see an RI, close to Kuwait. AJ

So not even $1, but .86?

by **HezekiaH** Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:30 pm

.86 would be fantastic.How soon can we get it??? Go RV Tony PTR 11-24-11 Still Looks Great 761671673

by **Kevind53** Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:31 pm

I'll take .86, more would be nicer, but .86 is still a heck of a profit.

by Guest Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:32 pm

punisher wrote:
AJAnderson wrote:This maybe going against some feathers, but, I believe with all the articles coming out in the last few days that the dinar will revalue at .86 and stay there for 2 years or until the CBI brings in most of the larger notes and then we should see an RI, close to Kuwait. AJ

So not even $1, but .86?

as the dollar gets stronger, so will the IQD!

by sandwedge Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:33 pm

AJAnderson wrote:This maybe going against some feathers, but, I believe with all the articles coming out in the last few days that the dinar will revalue at .86 and stay there for 2 years or until the CBI brings in most of the larger notes and then we should see an RI, close to Kuwait. AJ

Sold at .86 cents. I'm so outta her at .86 cents that all you will see is the smoke coming from under my tennis shoes as I burn rubber on the way to the bank.

Go RI/RV..

by pitcher19 Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:35 pm

Good point on the contracts. They can pay them in USD. Thay can confirm all they want that they got paid. This is more examples of a script being followed so people will be motivated to buy dinar.

Who ever heard of a contract being prepared and signed in anticipation of an RV? They don't have to RV. They have $58 billion in USD in reserve.

by **Jayzze** Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:48 pm

do 86 cents now i will be happy with a back on the scene and the way thhey re passing things since there vacation i do not see it hppening before 2012 just my opinion hope i am wrong but

by openmind Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:49 pm

pitcher19 wrote:Good point on the contracts. They can pay them in USD. Thay can confirm all they want that they got paid. This is more examples of a script being followed so people will be motivated to buy dinar.

Who ever heard of a contract being prepared and signed in anticipation of an RV? They don't have to RV. They have $58 billion in USD in reserve.

by ragai Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:50 pm

I would think it will be 1-1 for easy transition for the Iraqi people. Smile

by Guest Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:54 pm

ragai wrote:I would think it will be 1-1 for easy transition for the Iraqi people.

79 cents USD and 86 cent IQD is about as close to 1 to 1 as your going to get. AJ

by scaramouche Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:09 pm

Hmmm 86 cents sounds like a "sucker rate" to me. Looks like there are plenty of suckers around to lap it up. And that would fit right into their plans. I'm with AJ. First half million at .86 maybe, but then I'm waiting for the full meal deal.

by Dinarnewbie Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:30 pm

I know I commented on this post, what happened to it?

by Adamwms Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:33 pm

Dinarnewbie wrote:I know I commented on this post, what happened to it?

REPOST IT.

by alohajim Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:41 pm

Call me a sucker, I'll take the $.86, you can wait till someone blows up something and this starts all over.

By the BugsB they take USD for Oil on a daily basis.

This contracts in RVd money business makes no sense. Glad to see a few like and openminded members.

by sandwedge Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:49 pm

alohajim wrote:Call me a sucker, I'll take the $.86, you can wait till someone blows up something and this starts all over.

By the BugsB they take USD for Oil on a daily basis.

This contracts in RVd money business makes no sense. Glad to see a few like and openminded members.

You can call me a sucker too, because Iraq is far from stable.. If you want to gamble against the sure thing at .86 cents, thenyou are better off going to Vegas..

Go RI/RV..

by Azure Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:54 pm

if it came out at 86 cents do you know how many people will be buying more dinar
to cash out when it goes up?
I dont think they want that its gotta be around Kuwait right off the bat.

by sandwedge Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:25 am

Azure wrote:if it came out at 86 cents do you know how many people will be buying more dinar
to cash out when it goes up?
I dont think they want that its gotta be around Kuwait right off the bat.

Agree. As Randy Koonce has said for many months, $3.41, maybe up to .25 cents higher. Puts it right in line with Kuwait and it's regionally competitive.

Go RI/RV..

by Keys Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:51 am

bugsbunny wrote:I can shed some light to your comment. Iraq monitized their debt which means they are on the metal and comoditiy based ( gold standard) currancy now. What we are waiting for now is the US to follow suit. they will not deal in fiat money as it is worthless. that is the hold up.

I haven't heard that Iraq monetized it's debt.

Do you have a link to an article stating this?

Thank you.

by openmind Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:36 am

OkieFan wrote:
bugsbunny wrote:I can shed some light to your comment. Iraq monitized their debt which means they are on the metal and comoditiy based ( gold standard) currancy now. What we are waiting for now is the US to follow suit. they will not deal in fiat money as it is worthless. that is the hold up.

I haven't heard that Iraq monetized it's debt.

Do you have a link to an article stating this?

Thank you.

by councy Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:23 am

I think what is meant about the contracts is, contractors were paid is USD, now they say that they are being paid in IQD, if they are paid in IQD it would have to have a greater value. Ex: if a contract was for 1 Mil they were be paid 1 Mil USD but now ( if this is true) they would be paid in a revalued IQD. IMO

by openmind Fri Nov 25, 2011 9:40 am

councy wrote:I think what is meant about the contracts is, contractors were paid is USD, now they say that they are being paid in IQD, if they are paid in IQD it would have to have a greater value. Ex: if a contract was for 1 Mil they were be paid 1 Mil USD but now ( if this is true) they would be paid in a revalued IQD. IMO

Thanks for this explanation. If this is so, wouldn't it be breaking news; if Iraq has started to honor contracts in DInar instead of dollars? Also, wouldn't the rate be released in that case.

Additionally, many of the intel gathers have claimed that the contractors they know are American, meaning the money is coming back home and will have to be digitally transferred into a dollar account. So wouldn't this mean banks would know the rate?

by **doodoo** Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:04 am

AJAnderson wrote:This maybe going against some feathers, but, I believe with all the articles coming out in the last few days that the dinar will revalue at .86 and stay there for 2 years or until the CBI brings in most of the larger notes and then we should see an RI, close to Kuwait. AJ

Sure makes since to me, AJ. Satisfies all of the "lopsters" by dropping the zeroes from the rate instead of the bills. Then again, I'm no Guru, so $11.00 would ok by me. affraid

by councy Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:49 am

Openmind: Personally, what I believe, IMO, is (if this is true) Iraq can pay contractors whatever rate they wish as this would still be considered "in country". As far as trading with the rest of the world, that would have to be through CBI/Forex (et al) Maybe, "in country" is at .86 but once it hits the world currency trade market, that is when we would see the comparison to Kuwait. Just my thoughts

by sandwedge Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:52 am

councy wrote:Openmind: Personally, what I believe, IMO, is (if this is true) Iraq can pay contractors whatever rate they wish as this would still be considered "in country". As far as trading with the rest of the world, that would have to be through CBI/Forex (et al) Maybe, "in country" is at .86 but once it hits the world currency trade market, that is when we would see the comparison to Kuwait. Just my thoughts

What did I miss. Didn't Okie and Bulldog say several days ago that an "In Country RV" was confirmed at $3.75..

Go RI/RV..

by councy Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:56 am

sandwedge: that comment was made for those saying that its at .86 .... maybe they are getting paid at 3.75 ... who really knows?

by fuzzy Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:00 am

openmind wrote

Thanks for this explanation. If this is so, wouldn't it be breaking news; if Iraq has started to honor contracts in DInar instead of dollars? Also, wouldn't the rate be released in that case.

Additionally, many of the intel gathers have claimed that the contractors they know are American, meaning the money is coming back home and will have to be digitally transferred into a dollar account. So wouldn't this mean banks would know the rate?

I agree openmind

by openmind Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:16 pm

councy wrote:Openmind: Personally, what I believe, IMO, is (if this is true) Iraq can pay contractors whatever rate they wish as this would still be considered "in country". As far as trading with the rest of the world, that would have to be through CBI/Forex (et al) Maybe, "in country" is at .86 but once it hits the world currency trade market, that is when we would see the comparison to Kuwait. Just my thoughts

This post was very imaginative. It doesn't work this way.

A contract is binding and has to be honored in VALUE. If you are owed $10, you are to be payed that much in any currency and any country, so long as it is accepted as $10. What do you mean the Iraqis can pay a contractor at whatever rate they wish? The 'rate' of their currency has to be the same for everyone. Also, many of these contractors are foreign based, are you saying that they can't transfer money home because the RV is only in country and they 'amount' of Dinar they have been given is very little? I would be in outrage if this was the case.

Also notice the name, CENTRAL BANK OF IRAQ. Its not just for us foreigners, its for anyone using the IQD. When Kuwait RI-ed their currency, it was all over the news and everyone knew about it before and after it happened. Kuwait RI-ed about a month after Saddam's forces retreated back into Iraq.

Many people visit these forums and posts like yours will make them fall into delusion even more. I would hope that you understand. Respectfully.

by sandwedge Fri Nov 25, 2011 3:31 pm

Great post openmind. Everyone needs to return to what is logical, and what you wrote is spot on..

Go RI/RV..

by openmind Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:36 pm

Yes sir!

by readysetrv Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:50 pm

First of all if you would stop and consider the source of this info., of "contracts ready to be paid on Monday", I doubt this conversation would be going on long. It came from tony on bsp.. The frist 2 letters aren't "BS" for nothing......LOL

I completely beleive in Randy's belief on the rate. In his last call he sated this."the one thing that I know for sure is the rate. I know the rate is $3.41".

GO RVVVVVVVVVV!

by Guest Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:05 pm

It's all pure speculative, until the world is shown what is what with Iraq and that includes the exchange rate, whether it is .86 or 7.47 or somewhere in between.We could sit here and speculate all day long and never come up with the right answer, what if it's 25 cents? AJ

by happywelshguy Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:14 pm

As you know the info of 0.86c, is quite different than the rate being suggested by other good folks.

What articles are you referring to, in support of your comment?

Links, please....

bounce

AJAnderson wrote:This maybe going against some feathers, but, I believe with all the articles coming out in the last few days that the dinar will revalue at .86 and stay there for 2 years or until the CBI brings in most of the larger notes and then we should see an RI, close to Kuwait. AJ

by readysetrv Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:18 pm

AJAnderson wrote:It's all pure speculative, until the world is shown what is what with Iraq and that includes the exchange rate, whether it is .86 or 7.47 or somewhere in between.We could sit here and speculate all day long and never come up with the right answer, what if it's 25 cents? AJ

That's just it. After talking with Randy and knowing "who, what and where" his source is, the rate of $3.41 is not speculation, or at least not in Randy's mind. That is the one thing that Randy says he does know.

So we wait and see..

GO RVVVVVVVVV!

by bugsbunny Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:40 pm

Reply to Okie fan

I heard Iraq monitized their debt on CNBC News last week as well as read it on one of the forums. It was a short insert that was mentioned. I truly believe this is the real hold up because the U S and other country's and their banks have to be in line beore cashin or what we receive would be worthless when they do change to the gold/metals standard.

bugsy

by Guest Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:50 pm

That's ok we forgive'em.

by sandwedge Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:51 pm

AJAnderson wrote:It's all pure speculative, until the world is shown what is what with Iraq and that includes the exchange rate, whether it is .86 or 7.47 or somewhere in between.We could sit here and speculate all day long and never come up with the right answer, what if it's 25 cents? AJ

I have .25 cents, going once, going twice, sold to Sandwedge for .25 cents. I am perfectly fine with .25 cents. Bring it on AJ, and make it so..

Go RI/RV..

by Guest Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:58 pm

http://www.aknews.com/en/aknews/2/274294/

happywelshguy wrote:As you know the info of 0.86c, is quite different than the rate being suggested by other good folks.

What articles are you referring to, in support of your comment?

Links, please....

AJAnderson wrote:This maybe going against some feathers, but, I believe with all the articles coming out in the last few days that the dinar will revalue at .86 and stay there for 2 years or until the CBI brings in most of the larger notes and then we should see an RI, close to Kuwait. AJ

by Bruno Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:33 pm

DON'T GIVE UP! MAY BE TOMORROW. KEEP WISHIN' AND A HOPIN'