A wake-up call on JonnyWG

by shellya Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:28 pm

Stop bashing JonnyWG, folks! Yesterday, JonnyWG said in a chat/posting that there are people who do not want this RV and who want the crisis countries to collapse instead. I cannot tell you how I know his statement to be true, but I do absolutely know it to be true. And the fact that JonnyWG is the ONLY "guru" to my knowledge to ever say this, lends a great deal of credibility to his intel. Most of the gurus believe, in error, that the interests of IQD-investors worldwide are all aligned. That is patently false. There is a VERY powerful group of people who want to stop this RV, despite the fact that they are IQD investors, because the payoff to them will be far greater if the crisis countries collapse and they are able to take "ownership" of those countries and all of their assets and natural resources by virtue of their investments in some very complicated financial/debt instruments. These plans have taken many years to come to fruition, and the payoff on these plans is HUGE. The RV throws the mother of all wrenches into these plans, and they will do anything to stop the RV. So let's stop bashing JonnyWG. And, for heaven's sake, don't ban his intel or stop posting it on this site! I don't know if his bank screen intel is correct or not. I don't claim to have any special information in that arena. But yesterday JohnnyWG brought something to the table that IQD investors need to start to understand and take a very hard look at. In fact, because this powerful dynamic exists, it is ignorant to bash any well-meaning "guru" who predicts an RV which subsequently does not come to fruition. Bashing and suspicion should be reserved for gurus who are either not aware (most) of this powerful dynamic or not willing (some) to adknowledge it. This powerful dynamic poses a much larger problem to us as IQD investors, IMO, than the apparent perpetual ineptness of the GOI, although American politician's efforts to control the timing of the RV for political gain also appears to be a big thorn in our side. "Nuff said.

by **ADMIN** Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:31 pm

Thank you shellya!

by sandwedge Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:31 pm

Yeah OK... Jonnywg for President..

Go RI/RV..

by besh Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:32 pm

Thank You Thank You...........

by Guest Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:43 pm

oh, ya i forgot to tell ya, that would be the 13th tribe!

by airstreamer Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:44 pm

Thank you Shellya, I've been wanting to write something like this for a long time but did not know how to put it into words. If one knows the bigger picture it is easier to understand why there are so many delays.

by pouncer7 Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:52 pm

Well, then, the question is: Are these people/entities powerful enough to indeed STOP the RV? No one has answered that.

by besh Thu Nov 17, 2011 12:55 pm

I would be a billionaire everytime I guessed someone would JUST show up to bash and be right.

sandwedge wrote:Catherine, you'd be rich with .10 centsm not $10 buckaroos..

Go RI/RV..

by sandwedge Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:20 pm

besh wrote:I would be a billionaire everytime I guessed someone would JUST show up to bash and be right.

sandwedge wrote:Catherine, you'd be rich with .10 centsm not $10 buckaroos..

Go RI/RV..

How is that bashing Besh. Your going to be tardy. Rush to class.

Go RI/RV..

by **ADMIN** Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:23 pm

sandwedge wrote:
besh wrote:I would be a billionaire everytime I guessed someone would JUST show up to bash and be right.

sandwedge wrote:Catherine, you'd be rich with .10 centsm not $10 buckaroos..

Go RI/RV..

How is that bashing Besh. Your going to be tardy. Rush to class.

Go RI/RV..

HOLD UP... this all started with a post that was made by Catherine... that she asked to be removed because she posted it in the wrong thread... apparently by the time I removed it... besh had grabbe part of the posts that goes along with it.... sorry guys... I think it was just a timing issue, and left some holes in the middle...

DO OVER . . .

by Guest Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:23 pm

pouncer7 wrote:Well, then, the question is: Are these people/entities powerful enough to indeed STOP the RV? No one has answered that.

They own the banks, but they do not own the countries or the people yet.

by humingbyrd Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:24 pm

It may just be me, but I think johnny gets more threads here now then when he was a part of this group!?
:shock: :face:

by **ADMIN** Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:25 pm

pouncer7 wrote:Well, then, the question is: Are these people/entities powerful enough to indeed STOP the RV? No one has answered that.

I personally dont think that the RV is being stopped... IMO it just hasnt gotten to the point of actual revaluation and there is more that has/had to be done before its turned loose for us....

by Guest Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:25 pm

Miskebam wrote:
sandwedge wrote:
besh wrote:I would be a billionaire everytime I guessed someone would JUST show up to bash and be right.

sandwedge wrote:Catherine, you'd be rich with .10 centsm not $10 buckaroos..

Go RI/RV..

How is that bashing Besh. Your going to be tardy. Rush to class.

Go RI/RV..

HOLD UP... this all started with a post that was made by Catherine... that she asked to be removed because she posted it in the wrong thread... apparently by the time I removed it... besh had grabbe part of the posts that goes along with it.... sorry guys... I think it was just a timing issue, and left some holes in the middle...

DO OVER . . .

That's cheating, No Do Overs. LOL

by Catherine Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:27 pm

Miskebam wrote:
sandwedge wrote:
besh wrote:I would be a billionaire everytime I guessed someone would JUST show up to bash and be right.

sandwedge wrote:Catherine, you'd be rich with .10 centsm not $10 buckaroos..

Go RI/RV..

How is that bashing Besh. Your going to be tardy. Rush to class.

Go RI/RV..

HOLD UP... this all started with a post that was made by Catherine... that she asked to be removed because she posted it in the wrong thread... apparently by the time I removed it... besh had grabbe part of the posts that goes along with it.... sorry guys... I think it was just a timing issue, and left some holes in the middle...

DO OVER . . .

I still wanted to post it but not after the very thoughtfully written out post by Shellya-did not want my post to distract from her's.

by Roni Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:31 pm

Kind of all ties in with what Lindsey Williams has been reporting about the Elite. I can't believe they all are happy about many people becoming instant millionaires.

But honestly, in the large picture, this will be but just a small setback for them. They also may be able to use this to their advantage.

For example: We deposit 1MIL in our bank. The banks will now be able to loan 10x more, thus more people (maybe not you and me) in debt to default in the future. My best guess is that this delays their plan, but makes it ten-fold what they thought.

by **doodoo** Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:35 pm

pouncer7 wrote:Well, then, the question is: Are these people/entities powerful enough to indeed STOP the RV? No one has answered that.

I know the answer - but I just can't tell you

by Alchemist Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:41 pm

doodoo wrote:
pouncer7 wrote:Well, then, the question is: Are these people/entities powerful enough to indeed STOP the RV? No one has answered that.

I know the answer - but I just can't tell you

- That's DooDoo!

by besh Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:45 pm

Which class?

sandwedge wrote:
besh wrote:I would be a billionaire everytime I guessed someone would JUST show up to bash and be right.

sandwedge wrote:Catherine, you'd be rich with .10 centsm not $10 buckaroos..

Go RI/RV..

How is that bashing Besh. Your going to be tardy. Rush to class.

Go RI/RV..

by tootles Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:00 pm

Alchemist wrote:
doodoo wrote:
pouncer7 wrote:Well, then, the question is: Are these people/entities powerful enough to indeed STOP the RV? No one has answered that.

I know the answer - but I just can't tell you

Yes they are pouncer7...yes they are. So there's your answer...

- That's DooDoo!

by **Terbo56** Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:02 pm

Stepped in his own doo-doo, he did- Terbo

by **Peppermint Patti** Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:41 pm

Unfortunately for us shellya is correct and yes these powers that be have been planning this for about 50 years. It's called the NWO where they own everything...

Now the Countries mentioned are going to fall if they are not bailed out and yes the Elite will own them lock stock and barrel. That would be the beginning of the end because the world is eventually going to fall to them...

They have held this up many times down the years and that's why it hasn't happened. They do not want us to have this money because it sets them back by "time". They finally had agreed to let the RV happen because they couldn't find a way to stop if without causing a lot of trouble, let us spend some money, etc. and then in 2/3 months drop the dollar down to worthless and we are right back to where we started excepting we now have some new toys which they don't care about. They figure they will have our new houses because in short order we will not be able to pay the taxes on them and there you go...

It is the plan and the sooner everyone realizes that Lindsey Williams has the answers the better off you will be. He has never been wrong - the Elite have a program - it is scheduled to finish up and if they do allow the RV you need to be ready for the worthless pieces of paper you will own...

The people in charge of all these countries are their puppets otherwise you would have seen the RV. They say jump he says how hi. There is more money for all of them and their puppets by stopping it, so, we just have to trust that The Good Lord will put it in their hearts to let it happen...

I'm sorry many times that I even know these these things because they could be a burden to carry around but The Lord allows me to carry very heavy things and continue on. If you want to know what is going to happen google Lindsey Williams just listen. Go buy his books from years and years ago and you will see that he wrote about what has since happened. So he wrote first, it happened second. He is now telling you what to do to prepare to make it through these hard times coming and only those who are mentally and physically prepared will make it...

I wish you the very best and hope and pray the RV will go through and give all of us the money and time to prepare...

INTERESTING: My husband asked me today if I wanted to buy a city in Spain? Yes they are selling cities and that particular one would cost millions... Without the RV or a very wealthy buyer don't know what they are going to do... People at city hall haven't been paid for 7 months...

by **Terbo56** Thu Nov 17, 2011 2:46 pm

The cabal IS CRUMBLING- Just a matter of time- The arrests r already underway---Terbo

by wes Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:50 pm

doodoo wrote:
pouncer7 wrote:Well, then, the question is: Are these people/entities powerful enough to indeed STOP the RV? No one has answered that.

I know the answer - but I just can't tell you

Ok now doodoo you're starting to sound like a guru. lol!

by tootles Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:54 pm

wes wrote:
doodoo wrote:
pouncer7 wrote:Well, then, the question is: Are these people/entities powerful enough to indeed STOP the RV? No one has answered that.

I know the answer - but I just can't tell you
Ok now doodoo you're starting to sound like a guru.

Then why mention it at all doodoo?

by shellya Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:13 pm

Peppermint Patti,

I am praying right along with you! I have read that the Cabal is crumbling, but then, if that is the case, why have Trilateral Commission / Bilderberg members just replaced the prime ministers of Greece and Italy? To accomplish that, the Cabal must still wield substantial power. May God protect and bless us all!

by humingbyrd Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:15 pm

tootles wrote:
wes wrote:
doodoo wrote:
pouncer7 wrote:Well, then, the question is: Are these people/entities powerful enough to indeed STOP the RV? No one has answered that.

I know the answer - but I just can't tell you
Ok now doodoo you're starting to sound like a guru.

Then why mention it at all doodoo?

For the HUMOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very Happy

by tootles Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:32 pm

humingbyrd wrote:
tootles wrote:
wes wrote:
doodoo wrote:
pouncer7 wrote:Well, then, the question is: Are these people/entities powerful enough to indeed STOP the RV? No one has answered that.

I know the answer - but I just can't tell you
Ok now doodoo you're starting to sound like a guru.

Then why mention it at all doodoo?

For the HUMOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ha Ha

by **Peppermint Patti** Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:45 pm

"The cabal IS CRUMBLING- Just a matter of time- The arrests r already underway"---Terbo

Turbo,

I see these posts but never see anyone telling us how you come to that conclusion?

It is very interesting and encouraging but it's just words if there is noting to back it up?

I listen, I read, and then the subject goes dead from there?

Do you have anykind of proof this is taking, or about to take place?

Thank you and have a wonderful day...

by ClermontThinker Thu Nov 17, 2011 8:48 pm

This could get interesting... If youngest an answer.

by Jewelz Thu Nov 17, 2011 10:02 pm

Peppermint Patti - The cabal IS CRUMBLING- Just a matter of time- The arrests r already underway"---Terbo

Turbo, -I see these posts but never see anyone telling us how you come to that conclusion? It is very interesting and encouraging but it's just words if there is noting to back it up?

I listen, I read, and then the subject goes dead from there? Do you have anykind of proof this is taking, or about to take place? Thank you and have a wonderful day...

Peppermint Pattie, the proof is all around you in broad daylight, it's just not mainstream information, because there is a grand conspiracy against your very life from very dark freaks who have been running the planet.

There is an absolute ton of stuff on the internet, though you would need a very lot of time to sort it all out in order to determine what is what investigating it for many years.

You cannot expect to get fast easy answers at your request for very strange and bizarre things you have a hard time believing that have been going on in the background of our lives, while everyone is made to work a job to steal your life so you can't know other things because everyone is far too distracted with a life in a materialistic society that was made to be an illusive reality to fool everyone..

So until the bad guys are completely rounded up and removed out of the way you will have to be able to determine conspiracy information by making up your own mind about it all, rather than relying on some proof you are never going to get, because the illuminati owned and controlled TV is not going to tell anyone the truth about anything, while they are still being controlled manipulating the people for a dark agenda for enslavement.

You would have to read all of the conspiracy information to come to any sensible conclusions, because everything is actually in reverse of what we have been taught and trained to think and that is how the bad guys were able to get away with what they have done right in plain sight.

They knew you would not believe strange stuff unless you had proof, because they made it so that conspiracy information is very easily dismissed and ridiculed by the masses from their mind control tactics, because since everyone believes the TV and it did not say it was so dished out by your higher so called authority figures, whom you have grown to trust and believe, because the media are disguised getting paid big bucks and wear nice suits and smile while they tell everyone lies about what is really going on in the world. It's just news, though it is NOT the truth and of course there is a big difference..

by tootles Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:02 pm

Thank you Jewelz for speaking plain english. You do have a way with words and I appreciate them all. Always love your posts! bigsmile

by his4evr2c Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:38 pm

:| 8( However that is Not the End of the story PTLord,
People this is prophesied Over 2000 years ago. The wealth of the wicked transferring to the Righteous...
Not preaching Fact... Jesus said in the End times there would be wars and Rumors of Wars, Yet be of Good Cheer for I-Jesus have overcome the World. There is going to come a Great Harvest... We don't have to lay down and play dead; we can fight the Good fight and Win the Race Together...United we Stand /Divided we Fall. Let's Stand United together
Believe Come on RV Satan get your hands off this RV in Jesus Name Amen
Pray for RV and Pray for America.

by tootles Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:42 pm

his4evr2c wrote::| 8( However that is Not the End of the story PTLord,
People this is prophesied Over 2000 years ago. The wealth of the wicked transferring to the Righteous...
Not preaching Fact... Jesus said in the End times there would be wars and Rumors of Wars, Yet be of Good Cheer for I-Jesus have overcome the World. There is going to come a Great Harvest... We don't have to lay down and play dead; we can fight the Good fight and Win the Race Together...United we Stand /Divided we Fall. Let's Stand United together
Believe Come on RV Satan get your hands off this RV in Jesus Name Amen
Pray for RV and Pray for America.

Excellent! The wealth of the wicked IS laid up for the just. The Great Harvest is nigh. bigsmile

:yes:

by mitkire Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:21 am

shellya wrote:Stop bashing JonnyWG, folks! Yesterday, JonnyWG said in a chat/posting that there are people who do not want this RV and who want the crisis countries to collapse instead. I cannot tell you how I know his statement to be true, but I do absolutely know it to be true. And the fact that JonnyWG is the ONLY "guru" to my knowledge to ever say this, lends a great deal of credibility to his intel. Most of the gurus believe, in error, that the interests of IQD-investors worldwide are all aligned. That is patently false. There is a VERY powerful group of people who want to stop this RV, despite the fact that they are IQD investors, because the payoff to them will be far greater if the crisis countries collapse and they are able to take "ownership" of those countries and all of their assets and natural resources by virtue of their investments in some very complicated financial/debt instruments. These plans have taken many years to come to fruition, and the payoff on these plans is HUGE. The RV throws the mother of all wrenches into these plans, and they will do anything to stop the RV. So let's stop bashing JonnyWG. And, for heaven's sake, don't ban his intel or stop posting it on this site! I don't know if his bank screen intel is correct or not. I don't claim to have any special information in that arena. But yesterday JohnnyWG brought something to the table that IQD investors need to start to understand and take a very hard look at. In fact, because this powerful dynamic exists, it is ignorant to bash any well-meaning "guru" who predicts an RV which subsequently does not come to fruition. Bashing and suspicion should be reserved for gurus who are either not aware (most) of this powerful dynamic or not willing (some) to adknowledge it. This powerful dynamic poses a much larger problem to us as IQD investors, IMO, than the apparent perpetual ineptness of the GOI, although American politician's efforts to control the timing of the RV for political gain also appears to be a big thorn in our side. "Nuff said.

jonny's "news" that you refer to is old, old old news. check the date it was emailed to me shown below. jonnywg's intel is re-tread intel.

Date: Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 7:41 AM
Subject: Conference call

Bizarre conference last night regarding "Global Settlements" including CMKX and Dinar RV

With special intel guests. About the world situation, global settlements, what's behind it all, and how RV fits in.

I'm listening now

Two parts, 45 min. each

1. http://tinyurl.com/477284w (mentions iraq dinar has already r/vd and those who don't want this to happen)

2. http://tinyurl.com/4qzzhlo

be patient as it takes a little time for these recordings to load.

by santafe Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:29 am

shellya wrote:Peppermint Patti,

I am praying right along with you! I have read that the Cabal is crumbling, but then, if that is the case, why have Trilateral Commission / Bilderberg members just replaced the prime ministers of Greece and Italy? To accomplish that, the Cabal must still wield substantial power. May God protect and bless us all!

I share your concerns, perhaps jewlz could address this.

by Splovengates Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:35 am

[quote="tootles"][quote="his4evr2c"]:|

Excellent! The wealth of the wicked IS laid up for the just.

Thanks Tootles for that Bible text.
Here's a few more:

DEUTERONOMY 8
18–Thou shalt remember the LORD thy God: for it is He that giveth thee power to get wealth, that He may establish his covenant which he swore unto thy fathers, as it is this day.

Proverbs 13
7–There is he makes himself rich, yet hath nothing: there is another that makes himself poor, yet hath great riches.
12–Hope deferred maketh the heart sick: but when the [RV] desire cometh, it is a tree of life.
22–A good man leaveth an inheritance to his children's children: and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just.

Proverbs 19
4–Wealth makes many friends; but the poor is separated from his neighbour.

PSALM 112
3–Wealth and riches shall be in his house: and his righteousness endureth for ever.

by aksdinar Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:33 am

Just a though, if the 'gurus' have so much intel, I would suggest they offer their services to Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal to buy truck load of Dinars and as this is happening soon according to the "manual inputs", "blank screens" and oh i forget 'swift codes', they should just wait it out instead of borrowing at 7%.

In my working life with swift and banking computer centers, I have never come across inputting manually at any time and this is even before we had the internet.........

You can see this about the inputs and blank screens has stretched the intel for over so many weeks and always find a reason for not happening, its was Eurozone meeting, IMF meeting, China, World bank and secret meetings in Hawaii and I wonder what will the reason be if this does not pop up today....i guess its Friday......

I have heard so many reasons or reasoning for this to happen since 2003....and still waiting. No one will have a clue...only Iraq CBI

by lawrence Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:44 am

terbo56 wrote:Stepped in his own doo-doo, he did- Terbo

Doggone it I quoted wrong post.

Yea, you are right!!!! And I'm willing to help bring em down. They are really being taken out from what I read. GO R/V!!!!! :cheers:

by lawrence Fri Nov 18, 2011 4:47 am

terbo56 wrote:The cabal IS CRUMBLING- Just a matter of time- The arrests r already underway---Terbo

This Is the one I wanted to quote, sorry folks.

Yea, you are right!!!! And I'm willing to help bring em down. They are really being taken out from what I read. GO R/V!!!!! :cheers:

by mitkire Fri Nov 18, 2011 8:50 am

So very well said it bears repeating. Thank you, aksdinar!

aksdinar wrote:Just a though, if the 'gurus' have so much intel, I would suggest they offer their services to Greece, Italy, Spain and Portugal to buy truck load of Dinars and as this is happening soon according to the "manual inputs", "blank screens" and oh i forget 'swift codes', they should just wait it out instead of borrowing at 7%.

In my working life with swift and banking computer centers, I have never come across inputting manually at any time and this is even before we had the internet.........

You can see this about the inputs and blank screens has stretched the intel for over so many weeks and always find a reason for not happening, its was Eurozone meeting, IMF meeting, China, World bank and secret meetings in Hawaii and I wonder what will the reason be if this does not pop up today....i guess its Friday......

I have heard so many reasons or reasoning for this to happen since 2003....and still waiting. No one will have a clue...only Iraq CBI

by pontymania Fri Nov 18, 2011 11:24 am

ditto. Very well said aksdinar.Thanks