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Splovengates-Thankyou- I saw a movie of Atlantis on TV one time, back in the 70's, and didn't really catch what it was about, just bits and pieces, but what I did see was very interesting,and I will see if I can find more info about it- Thanks again!
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Plato was a philosopher, not an historian.
Could someone explain to me why they believe Plato was referring to a real city.
Could someone explain to me why they believe Plato was referring to a real city.
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"I despise this trait in anyone, and as far as the Masons, well, that is another story altogether, have experienced that society in business several times...."
And in every group, the good, bad and ugly.
And in every group, the good, bad and ugly.
ruthie23 wrote:This is an inflammatory thread, and I am not specifically calling out the Catholics. Taking advantage of the vulnerable whether young or old is endemic in this day and age, there are many different ways to 'rape' people.
I despise this trait in anyone, and as far as the Masons, well, that is another story altogether, have experienced that society in business several times....
Onward and upward and to bring another belief into the mix, and one I have great respect for Buddhism, Karma to everyone, good or bad.![]()
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www.religioustolerance.org/rel_hate.htm
Quotations:
This quote is repeated elsewhere because we are
so fond of it:
A man told his grandson: "A terrible fight is
going on inside me -- a fight between two
wolves. One is evil, and represents hate,
anger, arrogance, intolerance, and
superiority . The other is good, and
represents joy, peace, love, tolerance,
understanding, humility, kindness,
empathy, generosity, and compassion. This
same fight is going on inside you, inside
every other person too."
The grandson then asked: "Which wolf will
win?" The old man replied simply: "The one
you feed." Anon.
Toni Morrison, at her Nobel Lecture on 1993-
DEC-07 having received the Nobel Prize for
Literature, said:
"Oppressive language does more than
represent violence. It is violence. It does
more than represent the limits of
knowledge, it limits knowledge. ... It must
be rejected, altered and exposed. It is the
language that drinks blood, laps
vulnerabilities, tucks its fascist boots under
crinolines of respectability and patriotism as
it moves relentlessly toward the bottom line
and the bottomed-out mind. Sexist
language, racist language, theistic language
-- all are typical of the policing languages of
mastery, and cannot, do not permit new
knowledge or encourage the mutual
exchange of ideas."
If she were delivering the same speech today,
she might well have added oppressive
"homophobic language" and "transphobic
language" to her list.
Overview:
Religion can generate great personal
commitment and passion, expressed as caring,
love, respect, and support for others. It can
motivate believers to dedicate their lives to the
alleviation of suffering and need. However, it
can also motivate people to hate followers of
other religions, women, secularists, and other
minorities. This can escalate into actions of
harassment, conflict, oppression, murder,
terrorism and genocide.
This section discusses instances of religious
hatred, describes why they occur, and suggests
how they might be avoided. Unfortunately,
there are no quick fixes to this problem.
Quotations:
This quote is repeated elsewhere because we are
so fond of it:
A man told his grandson: "A terrible fight is
going on inside me -- a fight between two
wolves. One is evil, and represents hate,
anger, arrogance, intolerance, and
superiority . The other is good, and
represents joy, peace, love, tolerance,
understanding, humility, kindness,
empathy, generosity, and compassion. This
same fight is going on inside you, inside
every other person too."
The grandson then asked: "Which wolf will
win?" The old man replied simply: "The one
you feed." Anon.
Toni Morrison, at her Nobel Lecture on 1993-
DEC-07 having received the Nobel Prize for
Literature, said:
"Oppressive language does more than
represent violence. It is violence. It does
more than represent the limits of
knowledge, it limits knowledge. ... It must
be rejected, altered and exposed. It is the
language that drinks blood, laps
vulnerabilities, tucks its fascist boots under
crinolines of respectability and patriotism as
it moves relentlessly toward the bottom line
and the bottomed-out mind. Sexist
language, racist language, theistic language
-- all are typical of the policing languages of
mastery, and cannot, do not permit new
knowledge or encourage the mutual
exchange of ideas."
If she were delivering the same speech today,
she might well have added oppressive
"homophobic language" and "transphobic
language" to her list.
Overview:
Religion can generate great personal
commitment and passion, expressed as caring,
love, respect, and support for others. It can
motivate believers to dedicate their lives to the
alleviation of suffering and need. However, it
can also motivate people to hate followers of
other religions, women, secularists, and other
minorities. This can escalate into actions of
harassment, conflict, oppression, murder,
terrorism and genocide.
This section discusses instances of religious
hatred, describes why they occur, and suggests
how they might be avoided. Unfortunately,
there are no quick fixes to this problem.
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Did you know, the masons take their oath to the deity called the "light bringer" in the 14th degree of the morals and dogma of the freemasons, by albert pike, made an act of congress in 1897, 2nd to the last page about 2/3rds of the way down? The question here is, who was the light bringer? I know, I saw a picture of him in another mason book, it made my hair stand up on end!
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Pride goeth before destruction, or, do we always have to take ourselves so siriusly? This debate proves it!
Christian vs. Jew vs. Muslim
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The enemy of my enemy is my frenemy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkGhv58OhrE
Christian vs. Jew vs. Muslim
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The enemy of my enemy is my frenemy...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkGhv58OhrE
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Did you know there is 89 degree in the freemasons? Did you know to get from 32nd to 33rd you have to piss on a picture of Jesus Christ and if you do not, your padded on the back and told, "no good christian would do that" and will not advance any further, but if you do you will advance. Evil pure evil!
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No, I didn't know that. What is your source?
AJAnderson wrote:Did you know there is 89 degree in the freemasons? Did you know to get from 32nd to 33rd you have to piss on a picture of Jesus Christ and if you do not, your padded on the back and told, "no good christian would do that" and will not advance any further, but if you do you will advance. Evil pure evil!
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Alchemist wrote:No, I didn't know that. What is your source?AJAnderson wrote:Did you know there is 89 degree in the freemasons? Did you know to get from 32nd to 33rd you have to piss on a picture of Jesus Christ and if you do not, your padded on the back and told, "no good christian would do that" and will not advance any further, but if you do you will advance. Evil pure evil!
A very old mason book I ran into at powell street book store in portand oregon. I wanted to buy it at $400, when I went back, all the mason books were gone. i cannot for the life of me remember the name. I ran into the book about 8 years ago for $15 at a yard sell, as I was about to buy the guys sister wanted it and I lost out again. The book is about 4 inches thick. My other source is an actual 33 degree mason from Eugene Oregon.
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"My r source is an actual 33 degree mason from ne Oregon."
Can you snap a picture of where it says that and post it?
Can you snap a picture of where it says that and post it?
AJAnderson wrote:Alchemist wrote:No, I didn't know that. What is your source?AJAnderson wrote:Did you know there is 89 degree in the freemasons? Did you know to get from 32nd to 33rd you have to piss on a picture of Jesus Christ and if you do not, your padded on the back and told, "no good christian would do that" and will not advance any further, but if you do you will advance. Evil pure evil!
A very old mason book I ran into at powell street book store in portand oregon. I wanted to buy it at $400, when I went back, all the mason books were gone. i cannot for the life of me remember the name. I ran into the book about 8 years ago for $15 at a yard sell, as I was about to buy the guys sister wanted it and I lost out again. The book is about 4 inches thick. My other source is an actual 33 degree mason from Eugene Oregon.
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Also, can you describe the book(s) appeance, size, etc... in further detail, what the text was like, how it was written? Just curious.
Alchemist wrote:"My r source is an actual 33 degree mason from ne Oregon."
Can you snap a picture of where it says that and post it?AJAnderson wrote:Alchemist wrote:No, I didn't know that. What is your source?AJAnderson wrote:Did you know there is 89 degree in the freemasons? Did you know to get from 32nd to 33rd you have to piss on a picture of Jesus Christ and if you do not, your padded on the back and told, "no good christian would do that" and will not advance any further, but if you do you will advance. Evil pure evil!
A very old mason book I ran into at powell street book store in portand oregon. I wanted to buy it at $400, when I went back, all the mason books were gone. i cannot for the life of me remember the name. I ran into the book about 8 years ago for $15 at a yard sell, as I was about to buy the guys sister wanted it and I lost out again. The book is about 4 inches thick. My other source is an actual 33 degree mason from Eugene Oregon.
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Can i snap a picture of what, i stated?
The book size was much bigger than an 11 X 8 peice of paper, 4 inches thick, leather enlayed bound, Lettering outside was done in gold, lettering inside was done in, at least it seems to me italicized larger block lettering in red and black at the begining of each paragraph, with regular lettering following. Judging from the book it was most likely written in the John Locke days of the 1600's. The book at the yard sale belonged to the mans dad who was a mason. I asked him why he was not a mason, he said "I did not believe in their ways".
By the way, the Illuminati was at the top after the 89 degrees, with only 6 members, with lucifer at the top. After 33 they call themselves something else and it seems, about every 10 degrees after, the name would change. The Knights Malta and the Knights Templar were in there somewhere high up.
The book size was much bigger than an 11 X 8 peice of paper, 4 inches thick, leather enlayed bound, Lettering outside was done in gold, lettering inside was done in, at least it seems to me italicized larger block lettering in red and black at the begining of each paragraph, with regular lettering following. Judging from the book it was most likely written in the John Locke days of the 1600's. The book at the yard sale belonged to the mans dad who was a mason. I asked him why he was not a mason, he said "I did not believe in their ways".
By the way, the Illuminati was at the top after the 89 degrees, with only 6 members, with lucifer at the top. After 33 they call themselves something else and it seems, about every 10 degrees after, the name would change. The Knights Malta and the Knights Templar were in there somewhere high up.
Alchemist wrote:And, can you describe the book(s) appeance, size, etc... in further detail, what the text was like, how it was written? Just curious.Alchemist wrote:"My r source is an actual 33 degree mason from ne Oregon."
Can you snap a picture of where it says that and post it?AJAnderson wrote:Alchemist wrote:No, I didn't know that. What is your source?AJAnderson wrote:Did you know there is 89 degree in the freemasons? Did you know to get from 32nd to 33rd you have to piss on a picture of Jesus Christ and if you do not, your padded on the back and told, "no good christian would do that" and will not advance any further, but if you do you will advance. Evil pure evil!
A very old mason book I ran into at powell street book store in portand oregon. I wanted to buy it at $400, when I went back, all the mason books were gone. i cannot for the life of me remember the name. I ran into the book about 8 years ago for $15 at a yard sell, as I was about to buy the guys sister wanted it and I lost out again. The book is about 4 inches thick. My other source is an actual 33 degree mason from Eugene Oregon.
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A picture of the text that describes that ritual from the book you have. If that book were from the 1700's, it would be well worth the 400. I managed to get ahold of some of their ritual books, they are all coded, not something that easily reads well, it is my understanding that the rituals are memorized orally, and the ritual books are mostly used to help memory recall. I have not heard of degrees above 33°. It has been a practice within societies to recruit from other societies. For instance, Scottish Rite is a different organization from what the Blue Lodge. However, the first three degrees obtained in the Blue Lodge are accepted and built upon by the Scottish Rite. While the two are seperate, it would be easy for the two to be considered the same.
What you may have found, could have actually been a legitimate Illuminati text worth much more than what you were quoted. In like manner, as mentioned prior, it is reasonable that they would have honored and incorporated the lower degrees as the Scottish Rite does the Blue Lodge. That book would not have been an accurate representation of either the Blue Lodge or the Scottish Rite, it was something else.
As far as I know, the degrees 4°-32° can be obtained in a short weekend class. 33° is honorary and offered to individuals who have shown great industry in philanthropic endeavors. I believe that in certain circumstances one does not need to be of the 32° degree for entry, but don't quote me on that. It is highly unlikely that one need to pee on a picture of Jesus to become a 33°.
If there are any such rituals in the book in your posession, I would love to have a peek, as this is one of the areas of my study.
What you may have found, could have actually been a legitimate Illuminati text worth much more than what you were quoted. In like manner, as mentioned prior, it is reasonable that they would have honored and incorporated the lower degrees as the Scottish Rite does the Blue Lodge. That book would not have been an accurate representation of either the Blue Lodge or the Scottish Rite, it was something else.
As far as I know, the degrees 4°-32° can be obtained in a short weekend class. 33° is honorary and offered to individuals who have shown great industry in philanthropic endeavors. I believe that in certain circumstances one does not need to be of the 32° degree for entry, but don't quote me on that. It is highly unlikely that one need to pee on a picture of Jesus to become a 33°.
If there are any such rituals in the book in your posession, I would love to have a peek, as this is one of the areas of my study.
AJAnderson wrote:Can i snap a picture of what, i stated?
The book size was much bigger than an 11 X 8 peice of paper, 4 inches thick, leather enlayed bound, Lettering outside was done in gold, lettering inside was done in, at least it seems to me italicized larger block lettering in red and black at the begining of each paragraph, with regular lettering following. Judging from the book it was most likely written in the John Locke days of the 1600's. The book at the yard sale belonged to the mans dad who was a mason. I asked him why he was not a mason, he said "I did not believe in their ways".
By the way, the Illuminati was at the top after the 89 degrees, with only 6 members, with lucifer at the top. After 33 they call themselves something else and it seems, about every 10 degrees after, the name would change. The Knights Malta and the Knights Templar were in there somewhere high up.Alchemist wrote:And, can you describe the book(s) appeance, size, etc... in further detail, what the text was like, how it was written? Just curious.Alchemist wrote:"My r source is an actual 33 degree mason from ne Oregon."
Can you snap a picture of where it says that and post it?AJAnderson wrote:Alchemist wrote:No, I didn't know that. What is your source?AJAnderson wrote:Did you know there is 89 degree in the freemasons? Did you know to get from 32nd to 33rd you have to piss on a picture of Jesus Christ and if you do not, your padded on the back and told, "no good christian would do that" and will not advance any further, but if you do you will advance. Evil pure evil!
A very old mason book I ran into at powell street book store in portand oregon. I wanted to buy it at $400, when I went back, all the mason books were gone. i cannot for the life of me remember the name. I ran into the book about 8 years ago for $15 at a yard sell, as I was about to buy the guys sister wanted it and I lost out again. The book is about 4 inches thick. My other source is an actual 33 degree mason from Eugene Oregon.
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Knights Malta is of Catholic origen?
http://www.orderofmalta.org/english
Knights Templar resides in another branch of Freemasonry, similar to the Scottish Rite. Also a simple Internet search reveals a Masonic order of Knight Malta. I have a friend in another society of Catholic orientation. From what I received, they have great similarity to the structure of Freemasonry. But this group learns supposedly is trained in defense because there job is to protect somebody important, and when they give the "third degree" it has to be earned, modern Freemasonry is generally not as demanding as their Catholic counter part. There are hundreds, perhaps thousands of secret societies. The thing about this secrecy is that it leads to the wildest of suspicions and rumor, some warranted, some not. Individuals who betray the laws of the land should be dealt with accordingly. Blaming the whole organizations such as the Masons, Catholic Church, the Illuminati and other boogie men is a trap to distract you. Be aware, be smart. It is individuals who do wrong that need to be dealt with. If there is a conspiracy to comit criminal acts, deal with it accordingly. Fighting a strawman is like fighting your shadow, you will never win, just waste your time. That is the trap. That is the pyo-op. Confuse, distract, demoralize.
http://www.orderofmalta.org/english
Knights Templar resides in another branch of Freemasonry, similar to the Scottish Rite. Also a simple Internet search reveals a Masonic order of Knight Malta. I have a friend in another society of Catholic orientation. From what I received, they have great similarity to the structure of Freemasonry. But this group learns supposedly is trained in defense because there job is to protect somebody important, and when they give the "third degree" it has to be earned, modern Freemasonry is generally not as demanding as their Catholic counter part. There are hundreds, perhaps thousands of secret societies. The thing about this secrecy is that it leads to the wildest of suspicions and rumor, some warranted, some not. Individuals who betray the laws of the land should be dealt with accordingly. Blaming the whole organizations such as the Masons, Catholic Church, the Illuminati and other boogie men is a trap to distract you. Be aware, be smart. It is individuals who do wrong that need to be dealt with. If there is a conspiracy to comit criminal acts, deal with it accordingly. Fighting a strawman is like fighting your shadow, you will never win, just waste your time. That is the trap. That is the pyo-op. Confuse, distract, demoralize.
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Another thing that the Creator hates is secret societies, such as Freemasonry. In the late 1800's Jesus revealed to someone that a man in Australia, with the highest degree (33?) was rejected by God because of the great evil Freemasonry practices. Jesus showed this person the secret hand sign that only the highest masons know. When he saw this lady make the sign, he knew God had revealed it to her and he resigned from Freemasonary. He then became a follower of Christ.
TRUE STORY. believe it or not!
TRUE STORY. believe it or not!
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Splovengates wrote:Another thing that the Creator hates is secret societies, such as Freemasonry. In the late 1800's Jesus revealed to someone that a man in Australia, with the highest degree (33?) was rejected by God because of the great evil Freemasonry practices. Jesus showed this person the secret hand sign that only the highest masons know. When he saw this lady make the sign, he knew God had revealed it to her and he resigned from Freemasonary. He then became a follower of Christ.
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"Revelation is necessarily limited to the first communication--after that it is only an account of something which that person says was a revelation made to him; and though he may find himself obliged to believe it, it can not be incumbent on me to believe it in the same manner; for it was not a revelation made to ME, and I have only his word for it that it was made to him."
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Many do not understand the workings of the Holy Spirit, working in them.
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I studied this aera of interest years ago and no longer have any books in my posession, they are in a private library out in Washington state. The Morals and Dogma of the Freemasons was definitly of the Scottish Rite. What I came to learn from the mansons that I knew was that they had no idea what the freemasons was really about. The person I spoke of in Eugene Or. went from being a 2nd degree to 33rd in a weekend. He did not piss on the picture spoke of. I am still looking for that book i missed twice now and have not seen one since my last encounter at the yard sale. I guess it just was not meant to be and maybe something that should not be read by good people. AJ
Alchemist wrote:A picture of the text that describes that ritual from the book you have. If that book were from the 1700's, it would be well worth the 400. I managed to get ahold of some of their ritual books, they are all coded, not something that easily reads well, it is my understanding that the rituals are memorized orally, and the ritual books are mostly used to help memory recall. I have not heard of degrees above 33°. It has been a practice within societies to recruit from other societies. For instance, Scottish Rite is a different organization from what the Blue Lodge. However, the first three degrees obtained in the Blue Lodge are accepted and built upon by the Scottish Rite. While the two are seperate, it would be easy for the two to be considered the same.
What you may have found, could have actually been a legitimate Illuminati text worth much more than what you were quoted. In like manner, as mentioned prior, it is reasonable that they would have honored and incorporated the lower degrees as the Scottish Rite does the Blue Lodge. That book would not have been an accurate representation of either the Blue Lodge or the Scottish Rite, it was something else.
As far as I know, the degrees 4°-32° can be obtained in a short weekend class. 33° is honorary and offered to individuals who have shown great industry in philanthropic endeavors. I believe that in certain circumstances one does not need to be of the 32° degree for entry, but don't quote me on that. It is highly unlikely that one need to pee on a picture of Jesus to become a 33°.
If there are any such rituals in the book in your posession, I would love to have a peek, as this is one of the areas of my study.AJAnderson wrote:Can i snap a picture of what, i stated?
The book size was much bigger than an 11 X 8 peice of paper, 4 inches thick, leather enlayed bound, Lettering outside was done in gold, lettering inside was done in, at least it seems to me italicized larger block lettering in red and black at the begining of each paragraph, with regular lettering following. Judging from the book it was most likely written in the John Locke days of the 1600's. The book at the yard sale belonged to the mans dad who was a mason. I asked him why he was not a mason, he said "I did not believe in their ways".
By the way, the Illuminati was at the top after the 89 degrees, with only 6 members, with lucifer at the top. After 33 they call themselves something else and it seems, about every 10 degrees after, the name would change. The Knights Malta and the Knights Templar were in there somewhere high up.Alchemist wrote:And, can you describe the book(s) appeance, size, etc... in further detail, what the text was like, how it was written? Just curious.Alchemist wrote:"My r source is an actual 33 degree mason from ne Oregon."
Can you snap a picture of where it says that and post it?AJAnderson wrote:Alchemist wrote:No, I didn't know that. What is your source?AJAnderson wrote:Did you know there is 89 degree in the freemasons? Did you know to get from 32nd to 33rd you have to piss on a picture of Jesus Christ and if you do not, your padded on the back and told, "no good christian would do that" and will not advance any further, but if you do you will advance. Evil pure evil!
A very old mason book I ran into at powell street book store in portand oregon. I wanted to buy it at $400, when I went back, all the mason books were gone. i cannot for the life of me remember the name. I ran into the book about 8 years ago for $15 at a yard sell, as I was about to buy the guys sister wanted it and I lost out again. The book is about 4 inches thick. My other source is an actual 33 degree mason from Eugene Oregon.
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