Re: Is this the real Identity of Adam Montana, Dinar Guru?

by Goldiegirl Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:04 pm

Re: Is this the real Identity of Adam Montana, Dinar Guru?

by Deep Knight » Fri May 11, 2012 9:55 pm

From Dinar Douchebags yesteray.

Thursday, May 10, 2012 Adam Montana Speaks

Yesterday Adam Montana spoke publicly for the first time about the revelations posted on my blog over the past six months. In his weekly Q&A session James Wolf aka Adam Montana responded as follows:

[kcw] Patriotic_mess Adam, you are well respected in the Dinar community and many people look to you as a guide (including myself). Yet there some people who have websites listing groups of gurus as scammers and you're name happens to pop up on a few of them. You yourself have said Adam Montana is not your real name and that's fine if you want to hide your real identity, but a few sites go into a lot of detail about the man behind the name and give pages of evidence that person or people are involved in some shady business. What do you have to say to these claims? I'm not accusing you of anything, I just want to hear what you have to say to these accusations. Thanks.

[Adam Montana] I'm perfectly happy to respond to the "accusations", but first I want to know if your name is really "patriotic mess" lol!

[Adam Montana] I assume not, but let's move on - no, my name isn't Adam. My contacts are real, the benefits provided for my VIP members after the RV have nothing to do with my "real" name, and my opinions are mine whether I'm an 80 year old Harvard graduate or a 25 year old business man.

[Adam Montana] If you agree with my opinions, awesome. If you don't - good for you as well

[Adam Montana] Regarding the "scam" part of my sites - lol! I don't give financial advice, it's clearly stated all over the place that VIP supports the site and there is no guarantee on anything here, and I'm probably the only "guru" out there that will actually tell you that you might take a loss on this investment.

[Adam Montana] *MIGHT*. We all know that.

[Adam Montana] Now, if you want my real name and address... please, give me a break I have a family, I have a life outside of Dinar, and I hope you can all respect that. [Adam Montana] next please!

Okay, now for my response to his response. First of all, I'm really surprised that Wolfyman even bothered responding to the "accusations". I think he would have been better off to simply ignore them, but just like Breitling he felt the need to say something. I guess I just assumed that he's smarter than Breitling. Maybe not.

As for protecting his family, Rudy Coenen, Brad Huebner, and Frank Villa have all provided their names for their members. Don't they have families? Do they care less about their families than "Adam" does? Or is something else at play here?

Personally I don't care if his name is James Wolf, Adam Montana, or Ebenezer McGillicuddy. The name isn't what's important. It's what the name is covering up that most people are concerned about. Maybe his name has nothing to do with VIP membership, but his claims about being a Harvard graduate who profited off the Kuwaiti dinar certainly do. Aren't people more likely to join VIP to take advantage of the best negotiated cash-in rates and the lucrative post-RV deals set up by a 50 year old Harvard grad who was savvy enough to profit off the Kuwaiti dinar than they are from a 35 year old high school dropout who was too young to profit off the Kuwaiti dinar and who has a history of running porn sites? Sure they are! And his alias is obviously a way of covering up his true identity which would cut into his bottom line.

What struck me the most about Adam's response is his non-denial denial. Wikipedia defines a non-denial denial as:

"a statement that seems direct, clearcut and unambiguous at first hearing, but when carefully parsed is revealed not to be a denial at all, and is thus not untruthful. It is a case in which words that are literally true are used to convey a false impression"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-denial_denial

In this session "Adam" never denied that his real name is James Wolf, and he never said that his claims about being a Harvard grad who profited off the Kuwaiti dinar were true. In fact he essentially said that it doesn't matter whether they're true or not. Incredible, huh? He also didn't say that he indeed traveled to Dubai where he met with his CBI contact. He just said "my contacts are real". Wow! Could you be more ambiguous?

Then he finishes up with "I don't give financial advice" and "there is no guarantee on anything here". Not the point. The point is he sold VIP membership based largely on a persona that he created rather than on the person he really is.

If people want to entrust their hard earned money to a guy with James Wolf's credentials then be my guest. But I think it's only fair that they know his true qualifications as opposed to what he has been presenting up until now.

by Goldiegirl Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:05 pm

James Wolf aka Adam Montana laughing at you. This is really his voice.

Adam Montana as James Wolf, age 35 from Greenville, Wisconsin. This was discovered in 2012.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wAf_eR8YTE

by Goldiegirl Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:09 pm

Found some more on the gurus BS

It is amazing to me that these so-called Dinar Guru's keep posting all their drivel as if it was the gospel of end all knowledge about the redenomination, they call revaluation of the Dinar. It is also interesting to me that every time I am on a talk radio show and take questions, or doing a community seminar and do a Q&A, the Dinar always comes up of people wanting my take on it.

We warned people about the Iraqi Dinar back in 2008 that there was no way the Dinar would redenominate any time soon, and it would be at least 4-5 years at best. This was in 2008. Just last November we were asked to post a comment on our website about the Dinar as it seemed its redenomination (revaluation as they say) was going to happen at any time. So I put up a piece about the Iraqi Dinar on our website.

It never fails that anytime I discuss the Dinar, whether on the radio or at one of our community seminars, someone always tells me that I don't know what I am talking about, and that the Dinar will redenominate at any moment. To which I remind them that the so-called guru's have been saying this since 2008, and they have been wrong every time they make a prediction, and here it is 4 years later, and they are still wrong; and so far we have been right.

I know that people want to believe this will happen and they will become millionaires overnight. Even when it does redenominate, no-one is going to be millionaires from buying Dinars, except the people selling them to gullible people who have bought their hype.

I also explain that this is not a scam but a sham since: the Dinar really does exist, one day it will redenominate, but not at the levels the so-called guru's are predicting it will. A lot of people are going to be in for a very rude surprise and a sad disappointment when this finally happens.

I have no crystal ball to tell me when this redomination will take place, but I do know far more has to be done in Iraq before it will ever take place. I just don't get how people keep falling for and believing in all their predictions after 4 years of being so wrong.

by Goldiegirl Thu Apr 23, 2015 5:15 pm

Adam Montana Of DinarVets FEATURED On Dinar Douchebags Blog...

For those of you who are familiar with the Iraqi Dinar, the Dinar community and the various forums and blogs surrounding the Iraqi Dinar, you're probably familiar with the name Adam Montana.

Adam Montana is one of those love him or hate him characters. Some people love him, sign up for his VIP programs, buy his books, and hang on his every word. Others however call him a pumper, talk trash about him online and make videos making fun of him.

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Adam Montana Of DinarVets...What's Your Thoughts?

Adam Montana runs the website DinarVets. I think Dinar Vets is an awesome website and a great resource. It's not really an Adam Montana rant either as it's a forum and all forum participants can agree or disagree with what they hear on the forum and all forum participants can voice their opinions on the Dinar as well as other issues. I think it's a great forum which brings those of us interested in the Dinar together and gives us a space to chat and congregate.

I am not a member of his VIP group, I havnt' listened to his calls nor really paid too much attention to him aside from just occasionally visiting his forum where it's mostly members views and not his personally so I can't speak to his knowledge on the Iraqi Dinar. I have heard he makes big claims about being Harvard Educated and has secret intel or information on the Dinar.

Though I never really paid much attention to him personally or really even cared to, I always kind of just thought he most likely isn't some expert on the Iraqi Dinar but is an internet marketer or affiliate marketer who found a good "niche" and is making money off it.

Affiliate Marketeres or Internet Marketers are basically just very marketing saavy, very web saavy web designers. They setup sites not necessarily based on subjects they are knowledgable about or even interested in for that matter. They do research and find out high paying keywords and affiliate programs and "niche" areas or subject matters which are high paying and have not much competition and they setup sites and make money off advertising as well as selling add ons and upsells such as books, info packets, receiving special text messages with secret info, things like that.

According to the DinarDouchebags Blog, Adam Montana runs a few porn sites and forums which kind of backs up my initial belief that he's an affiliate marketer.That's not to say he's not knowledgeable about the Dinar, he can talk a good game and knows his stuff to an extent according to people who follow his site so he has apparently educated himself on the Dinar and currencies, but he isn't according to DinarDouchebags any significant economic or finance expert or figure in that community which again, according to DinarDouchebags is some of the claims he has made.

Taking a look at these other sites which DinarDouchebags claims he owns, they are full of dating site affiliate programs and porn site affiliate programs so the guy does have a background in webdesign, affiliate marketing etc. It's my belief he is an affiliate marketer who saw a niche in the Dinar and rose to the top in terms of having a site which brings in those in the Dinar community.

DinarDouchebags blog apparently calls Mr. Montana out on many claims he's made in his books and on his sites and sometimes disputes with facts, othertimes just his belief. Apparently Adam Montana states he's a Harvard Grad. This has not been confirmed and DinarDouchebags writers say "not bloody likely."

DinarDouchebags claim Adam Montana's true identity is James Wolf AKA Wolfyman. Apparentlly Mr. Montana also claims he was one of the lucky few who cashed in on the Kuwaiti Dinar situation. He says not likely seeing as how Wisconsin birth records show Mr. Montana as being born in 1976 which would make him 14 at the time and unlikley he was roaming the streets of Kuwait in a warzone as a teenager.

Adam Montana claims he bought Dinar back in 2004 and DinarDouchebags seems to say this is unlikely. This really isn't that unlikely of a claim. The Iraqi DInar was issued in June of 2003 and was being circulated and sold in 2004. Magazines like Money and Forbes were running articles about the Iraqi Dinar back around this time and Dinar was being sold on eBay even way back then so this claim isn't that unlikely and is very plausible.

Mr. Montana claims he flew to Dubai and made contact with the CBI. This is probably not likely but not impossible and DinarDouchebags doesn't provide any support or facts to dispute this besides saying "bwha whatever". It is unlikely but not impossible.

One claim we do think is probably untrue or a stretch at best is that Adam Montana negotiated a rate with bankers for his VIP members to cash in at. This is very unlikely in our opinion. First off most bankers think the Iraqi Dinar is a scam. Second off, unless someone is licensed to give investment advice they cannot do so and most bankers steer clear of the Dinar for this very reason. Lastly, why woudl a banker agree to a future hypothetical scenario and a rate when the banker doesn't even know A. If his bank will deal with the Dinar in the future, B. If the Iraqi Dinar will EVER revalue at all, and C. Agree to a rate on a hypothetical situation when the banker doesn't even know what his costs will be as a bank to turn over the Dinar after purchasing it. I would liken this situation to someone saying they called Microsoft and asked if the new Xbox...that isn't even in existance yet, will be out and if they will agree to sell it for $300. Of course not, why would they agree to sell something that doesn't even exist yet and that they don't know what the costs will be. It's just silly.

We found this article to be interesting. There's a lot of mystery surrounding who Adam Montana is and if he's really an expert. Though DinarDouchebags blog was informative and interesting many of the points he disputes though I agree with from a common sense perspective, he provides no facts or support to dispute these.

by **RoyBoy** Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:17 pm

Such a puke! He needs his mouth washed out with pure bleach with all the lies he tells people

by Goldiegirl Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:34 pm

Royboy, I'm going to post as much truth about this scumbag as I can. I know many DV'rs may read it here and hopefully the information will flow back to DV.

by **RoyBoy** Thu Apr 23, 2015 7:45 pm

GG, I am sure you have most of the members here--blessings. I hate it that I live only 3-4 hours away from this bag of human waste . Too close for comfort for me, and then I have to travel even closer to him at times for work. Pour it on!!! ;-)

by **nickgiammarino** Mon Jun 27, 2016 9:31 am

by **Sam I Am** Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:43 pm

I realize that others bought dinar in 2004, but James stated as Wolfy on a forum for porn webmasters that he heard about the dinar in December of 2008. That's what I was going on. That's about the time he joined Med's site and then he started Dinar Vets in 2009. http://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-program-discussion/874102-investing-dinars.html#post15165793

by **Ponee** Wed Nov 11, 2020 8:14 pm

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