Burning deceased humans will produce electricity

by godsfool713 Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:26 pm

Burning deceased humans will produce electricity

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45526347/ns/technology_and_science-science/t/burning-deceased-humans-will-produce-electricity/#.TugW7mPTont

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By Natalie Wolchover

updated 12/2/2011 1:55:49 PM ET
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In Durham, England, corpses will soon be used to generate electricity.
A crematorium is installing turbines in its burners that will convert waste heat from the combustion of each corpse into as much as 150 kilowatt-hours of juice — enough to power 1,500 televisions for an hour. The facility plans to sell the electricity to local power companies.
Some might find this concept creepy. Others might be pleased to learn that the process "makes cremation much greener by utilizing its by-products," in the words of cremation engineer Steve Looker, owner and chief executive officer of the Florida-based company B&L Cremation Systems, which is unaffiliated with the Durham enterprise.
In Europe, tightening regulations on crematorium emissions, coupled with the high price of energy, will lead more and more facilities to go the way of Durham in the future, Looker said. Will crematories in the United States follow suit?
According to Looker, whose company is currently testing different methods of utilizing cremation waste heat, the expensive turbine systems being installed in Durham are not yet economically viable for crematories here. "In the U.S., most crematories don't have enough throughput," he told Life's Little Mysteries. "Cremation in some parts of Europe is over 90 percent, but it is not over 50 percent yet here." That is, less than half of Americans opt for cremation. Most are buried.
Consequently, while burners in Europe typically run 24 hours day, ones in America operate only eight hours each day, Looker said. "A typical turbine system would cost somewhere between $250,000 to $500,000. If it's running 24 hours a day, that's a five-year payback. If it's running eight hours a day, that's a 15- or 20-year payback, which isn't feasible," he said.
However, Looker is hopeful that the situation could change in the near future. "Over the next 10 years, with the baby boomers coming through, cremation is going to reach 75 to 80 percent. Then, this might be feasible."
Furthermore, a turbine designed by a company called Thermal Dynamic Engineering, which produces just 50 kilowatt-hours of energy but is much less expensive to install than the Durham system, will be available in the near future, Looker said.
Thus, it may indeed come to pass that deceased baby boomers will someday help power your household appliances.
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by Guest Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:36 pm

creepy is not the word for it. More like is is ethically "Moral" thing to do! To me, that is like feeding a cow to a cow! Lets give the dead some decensy. AJ

by TenorJoe Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:37 pm

Eat the Old: Could Mass Cannibalism Solve a Future Food Shortage?
Yum! Get me some hot sauce. Hold the onions.

by pgo Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:47 pm

Sorry, but this IS creepy, my loved ones do not have to become a source of energy for me or others!

by **PALMER01** Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:49 pm

"Over the next 10 years, with the baby boomers coming through, cremation is going to reach 75 to 80 percent.

That got my full attention. Goodbye Baby Boomers! Oh, I am one.

by 1alaskan Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:51 pm

Reminds me of Soylent Green

Starring Chuck Heston 1973

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070723/

by **dinarstar** Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:52 pm

AJAnderson wrote:creepy is not the word for it. More like is is ethically "Moral" thing to do! To me, that is like feeding a cow to a cow! Lets give the dead some decensy. AJ

Well said AJ,this is lacking in common decency.

by **Kevind53** Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:54 pm

Definitely flashing back to "Soylent Green" here!

by **Kevind53** Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:54 pm

1alaskan wrote:Reminds me of Soylent Green

Starring Chuck Heston 1973

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070723/

Hehe Great minds think alike Ilikeyou

by **PALMER01** Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:55 pm

"Eat the Old: Could Mass Cannibalism Solve a Future Food Shortage?
Yum! Get me some hot sauce. Hold the onions."

Only if it's "EL YUCATECO" habanero sauce. Now that's "smokin hot". '

by godsfool713 Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:16 pm

They already feed Cow s other Cows , and they feed cows.... piggy too!!!

AJAnderson wrote:creepy is not the word for it. More like is is ethically "Moral" thing to do! To me, that is like feeding a cow to a cow! Lets give the dead some decensy. AJ

by Alchemist Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:35 pm

Good Idea GodsFool!

"A crematorium is installing turbines in its burners twill convert waste heat from the combustion of eaccorpse into as much as 150 kilowatt-hours of juiceenough to power 1,500 televisions for an hour. The facility plans to sell the electricity to local power companies."

I don't think you folks understand. The energy is not coming from the bodies. It requires energy to cremate a body, lots of it. Think of the temperature ang fuel necessary. All they are doing is turning the furnace into a powerplant to recover some of the energy to sell back to the grid. They will put the turbine in the smoke stack. No one will see it. It's not like they need bodies to power it.

by **ADMIN** Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:38 pm

:shock:

by Alchemist Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:02 am

Miskebam wrote: :shock:

by ntvtexan Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:57 am

Well, as I see it, they only use a few pennies worth of natural gas to fire the crematorium, then charge a nice fee for services rendered.

Will they now give this service for FREE with cremation of a Loved One?

Will this spawn a whole new area of advertising specials...? :shock:

"Come on down to Crowley's Crematorium and Power, where we're having our 2-for-1 Christmas special, plus Free electricity for a day with the cremation of two or more of your deceased loved ones !"

"and sorry folks, they must ALREADY be dead !"

Ummm, YEAH...I couldn't resist !!!

lol!

by panamabev Wed Dec 14, 2011 12:59 am

NO ASHES FOR THE URN????? :shock: :shock: :shock:

by Guest Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:04 am

......And they wonder why mad cow desease get spread too! Cows do not eat cows, they eat plants! This is why you will not catch me eating meat from a commercial store, you just do not know what you are getting!

godsfool713 wrote:
They already feed Cow s other Cows , and they feed cows.... piggy too!!!

AJAnderson wrote:creepy is not the word for it. More like is is ethically "Moral" thing to do! To me, that is like feeding a cow to a cow! Lets give the dead some decensy. AJ

by therealbutterfly Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:25 am

Alchemist wrote:Good Idea GodsFool!

"A crematorium is installing turbines in its burners twill convert waste heat from the combustion of eaccorpse into as much as 150 kilowatt-hours of juiceenough to power 1,500 televisions for an hour. The facility plans to sell the electricity to local power companies."

I don't think you folks understand. The energy is not coming from the bodies. It requires energy to cremate a body, lots of it. Think of the temperature ang fuel necessary. All they are doing is turning the furnace into a powerplant to recover some of the energy to sell back to the grid. They will put the turbine in the smoke stack. No one will see it. It's not like they need bodies to power it.

I think you are the only one who read it correctly... I think its a smart idea. No one is using bodies as fuel.... The bodies are already being cremated, this is just a way to harness the furnace heat into energy.... sheesh

by Alchemist Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:10 am

therealbutterfly wrote:
Alchemist wrote:Good Idea GodsFool!

"A crematorium is installing turbines in its burners twill convert waste heat from the combustion of eaccorpse into as much as 150 kilowatt-hours of juiceenough to power 1,500 televisions for an hour. The facility plans to sell the electricity to local power companies."

I don't think you folks understand. The energy is not coming from the bodies. It requires energy to cremate a body, lots of it. Think of the temperature ang fuel necessary. All they are doing is turning the furnace into a powerplant to recover some of the energy to sell back to the grid. They will put the turbine in the smoke stack. No one will see it. It's not like they need bodies to power it.

I think you are the only one who read it correctly... I think its a smart idea. No one is using bodies as fuel.... The bodies are already being cremated, this is just a way to harness the furnace heat into energy.... sheesh

by landcareunlimited Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:33 am

Is this practice regulated by Hydrocarbon Law?

by 1alaskan Wed Dec 14, 2011 6:34 pm

therealbutterfly wrote:
Alchemist wrote:Good Idea GodsFool!

"A crematorium is installing turbines in its burners twill convert waste heat from the combustion of eaccorpse into as much as 150 kilowatt-hours of juiceenough to power 1,500 televisions for an hour. The facility plans to sell the electricity to local power companies."

I don't think you folks understand. The energy is not coming from the bodies. It requires energy to cremate a body, lots of it. Think of the temperature ang fuel necessary. All they are doing is turning the furnace into a powerplant to recover some of the energy to sell back to the grid. They will put the turbine in the smoke stack. No one will see it. It's not like they need bodies to power it.

I think you are the only one who read it correctly... I think its a smart idea. No one is using bodies as fuel.... The bodies are already being cremated, this is just a way to harness the furnace heat into energy.... sheesh

I think most folks got it, it just sounds a bit creepy, but when you think what a lot our food eats, then we eat it, then maybe not.

by tajmah09 Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:13 pm

COME ON GUYS, ALL THEY ARE DOING CREATING ONE ENERGY SOURCE FROM ANOTHER. THE CREAMATE ALL SORTS OF THINGS, DISEASE RIDDEN AMPUTATED LIMBS, MEDICAL WASTE. WHY NOT GENERATE SOMETHING POSITIVE. THERE IS NOTHING ETHICALLY OR MORALLY WRONG ABOUT USING HEAT FROM A CREAMATORIUM TO GENERATE ELECTRICITY. NO ONE ACTUALLY KNOWS WHARE OR WHAT IS BEING USED. wHAT ARE FOSSIL FUELS? DEAD THINGS.

by **PALMER01** Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:36 pm

But those dead things have been dead for a LONG time. affraid

by therealbutterfly Wed Dec 14, 2011 7:53 pm

AGAIN.... they are not using the bodies as fuel, they are using the heat from the furnace and the bodies to generate energy. GET IT??? No one is using bodies as logs etc. lol

by openmind Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:04 pm

1alaskan wrote:Reminds me of Soylent Green

Starring Chuck Heston 1973

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070723/

Yeah, had the same thought! Great film.

by **Kevind53** Wed Dec 14, 2011 8:10 pm

openmind wrote:
1alaskan wrote:Reminds me of Soylent Green

Starring Chuck Heston 1973

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070723/

Yeah, had the same thought! Great film.

No often that I find myself on the same page as you OpenMind but that makes 3! First thing I though of.

by Mrs_Kim Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:06 pm

It's my understanding the reason Europeans are at 80-90% cremation vs. burial is 1) limited space and 2) rising costs on decreasing incomes. These days the cost of a funeral (depending on the location) is anywhere from $10,000 to $17,000. You're seeing more and more people go with cremation because they can't afford the burial costs (i.e. flowers, the casket, the vault, the plot, embalming, the tomb stone, digging the hole, installing the vault, filling in the hole, etc.). Many baby boomers are on a fixed income and just can't afford the high-cost of burial. Cremation offers a less expensive alternative. Just a fact of life ... or death as it were.

by Alchemist Wed Dec 14, 2011 9:29 pm

therealbutterfly wrote:AGAIN.... they are not using the bodies as fuel, they are using the heat from the furnace and the bodies to generate energy. GET IT??? No one is using bodies as logs etc. lol

Lol! It's the status of the unreformed bicameral mind. Feeling and reacting not thinking, assimilating and connecting. And folks wondering why the world is in shables. Pertains to more than this thread. Folks need a TSM!

by tajmah09 Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:07 am

Reminds me of Soylent Green

Starring Chuck Heston 1973

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070723/

THAT WAS A DISCUSTING FUTURISTIC (NO MATTER HOW CLOSE TO THE TRUTH IT SEEMS NOW) FLICK. BUT HOW LONG BEFORE OUT REGULATORS DECIDE THIS WOULD BE PROPER PROTOCOL FOR CREATING ENERGY.

HMM... SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT:twisted:

by glasshalffull Thu Dec 15, 2011 7:23 am

Well the song "you light up my life" would have a whole new meaning, LOL ....sorry Burning deceased humans will produce electricity 2211252749

by Alchemist Thu Dec 15, 2011 8:14 am

glasshalffull wrote:Well the song "you light up my life" would have a whole new meaning, LOL ....sorry

B.O.C. "Burning for you," ...apologies

by ruthie23 Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:14 am

Glasshalfful now that has made me giggle Very Happy

Think I'll have this at my burn up!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcJac6OykfM

And then power up the local pub!!

by ruthie23 Thu Dec 15, 2011 9:14 am

Whoops double post, it was the excitement! crazyspin

by GoldPeg9 Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:34 pm

1alaskan wrote:Reminds me of Soylent Green

Starring Chuck Heston 1973

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This was the movie I thought of too 1Alaskan! Sheesh!

Thank goodness advanced technology is about to be released where we do NOT have to combust anything for heat and power.

Believe it or not - NO one will be cremated anymore either.

by glasshalffull Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:44 pm

I certainly hope cremation does not become obsolete, as this is my choice for my self.........it's cheap and less of a burden financially on my kids :shock:

by GoldPeg9 Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:42 pm

glasshalffull wrote:I certainly hope cremation does not become obsolete, as this is my choice for my self.........it's cheap and less of a burden financially on my kids :shock:

How about keeping your body and rejuvenating it instead. This is the Divine Plan and is how life is in the 5th dimension. The whole earth and all life upon her is ascending into 5D.

Our bodies are meant to live thousands of years. You will NOT have to age anymore. You will rejuvenate to about where you look 20-25 and stay there! (of course if you want to look 30-40 - you can do that too. LOL)

by Alchemist Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:54 pm

You in your new avatar, doing great for 99! I'll have some of whatever keeps you like that!

GoldPeg9 wrote:
glasshalffull wrote:I certainly hope cremation does not become obsolete, as this is my choice for my self.........it's cheap and less of a burden financially on my kids :shock:

How about keeping your body and rejuvenating it instead. This is the Divine Plan and is how life is in the 5th dimension. The whole earth and all life upon her is ascending into 5D.

Our bodies are meant to live thousands of years. You will NOT have to age anymore. You will rejuvenate to about where you look 20-25 and stay there! (of course if you want to look 30-40 - you can do that too. LOL)

by **Purpleskyz** Thu Dec 15, 2011 1:57 pm

Hmmm... though I feel that I am aging with grace it sure would not be a bad thing to have the energy that I had at 20-30 for sure! What an awesome thing!

by therealbutterfly Thu Dec 15, 2011 4:13 pm

GoldPeg9 wrote:
glasshalffull wrote:I certainly hope cremation does not become obsolete, as this is my choice for my self.........it's cheap and less of a burden financially on my kids :shock:

How about keeping your body and rejuvenating it instead. This is the Divine Plan and is how life is in the 5th dimension. The whole earth and all life upon her is ascending into 5D.

Our bodies are meant to live thousands of years. You will NOT have to age anymore. You will rejuvenate to about where you look 20-25 and stay there! (of course if you want to look 30-40 - you can do that too. LOL)

Now if we could only bring back those loved ones already passed on, that would be the best! Smile

by GoldPeg9 Thu Dec 15, 2011 11:42 pm

You got it! I'll beam you some over, just as soon as I get this teleporter working in 3D! LOL

Alchemist wrote:You in your new avatar, doing great for 99! I'll have some of whatever keeps you like that!

GoldPeg9 wrote:
glasshalffull wrote:I certainly hope cremation does not become obsolete, as this is my choice for my self.........it's cheap and less of a burden financially on my kids :shock:

How about keeping your body and rejuvenating it instead. This is the Divine Plan and is how life is in the 5th dimension. The whole earth and all life upon her is ascending into 5D.

Our bodies are meant to live thousands of years. You will NOT have to age anymore. You will rejuvenate to about where you look 20-25 and stay there! (of course if you want to look 30-40 - you can do that too. LOL)