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Post by jerdjj on Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:05 am

Is it true that the restructure "rate" can only be "about a buck" as Breitling maintains, since the infrastructure of Iraq cannot support a high rate to begin with such as $3 to $4 IQD?

He states that there would be too much money at a $3 RV and cause "reverse inflation" since there are not enough goods or imports to purchase.

A rate "about a buck" will then allow other nations to "invest" in Iraq as opposed to a $3 to $4 RV.

Over the years the rate will reach the $3 to $4, but the notes with 000's will all be retired and ONLY the smaller notes can grow to this higher rate.

Your thoughts, as this is supposedly the way of the "financial world" and "how money works" etc...

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Post by hoosierbuster on Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:09 am

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:17 am

In my opinion a buck would cause Iraq to get liquidated by foreign intrests, so "NO" would be my answer to your question.

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Post by topspin2 on Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:40 am

If its a dol.lar to a dollar, where is the incentive to use the IQD. Why not just use the USD? They going to make the USD illegal? Doesnt make sense. Lets confuse the citizens even more. Now in the low 1's, say 1.38.... Now that makes sense...They will use the IQD....

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Post by Guest on Sun Oct 09, 2011 10:48 am

Imo, it must at least match kuwait. Go rv!!!

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Post by 1alaskan on Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:24 am

What Punisher said,



Dr. Shabibi has stated that, IMF siad "pre war rate with 20% for inflation" both go hand in hand with $3.22 to about $3.86.



But even a buck, is much better than what we paid. Maybe we should not get greedy.

If is goes up over time, maybe you cash out some, hold some.

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Post by openmind on Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:35 am

I want this to be over now, this month. Don't want to become a Dinar Veteran like many people who have been here for YEARS. I would be happy with 30 cents/dinar. Just want it NOW!

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Post by Angustura on Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:53 am

@openmind wrote:I want this to be over now, this month. Don't want to become a Dinar Veteran like many people who have been here for YEARS. I would be happy with 30 cents/dinar. Just want it NOW!
HEY THERE OPENMIND . AFTER MONTHS OF RESEARCH I HAVE LEARNED THAT UNLESS THEY LOP,THE RATE WILL HAVE TO COME OUT AT AT LEAST 1.49 FOR THERE ECONOMY TO BE STABLE.THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING.AND WE NOW KNOW THERE WILL BE NO LOP.JUST SAYIN"Smile
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Post by WilliamB on Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:58 am

I still feel they need to be at par with Kuwait at 3.67..sure hope so Very Happy

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Post by boas on Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:40 am

Their rate will be the best in the Middle East. Whatever that is.

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Post by Just Da Truth on Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:43 am

@openmind wrote:I want this to be over now, this month. Don't want to become a Dinar Veteran like many people who have been here for YEARS. I would be happy with 30 cents/dinar. Just want it NOW!
GOOD ANSWER, MY THOUGHT IS JUST OVER ONE DOLLAR, THE REASON BEHIND THIS IS; THE AMERICAN DOLLAR IS USED IN IRAQ, AND TO GET THE PEOPLE TO TRADE IN THEIR DINARS, IT WILL BE OVERE 1 DOLLAR, NOW; ONCE DR. SHABBI SEES THIS IS WORKING, YOU WILL SEE A RATE INCREASE, SO WITHIN 1-2 YEARS IT MAY WELL BE OVER 3 DOLLARS OR MORE, IF IT COMES IN AROUND 1 USD I WILL BE VERY HAPPY. I GUESS I AM A DINAR VET. AS I HAVE BEEN IN THIS SINCE 2006!!!!!affraid lol! affraid lol! affraid lol! affraid lol! affraid
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Post by Gmansaid on Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:55 am

Investigations and contemporary society : a controversial issue .. the project to delete the zeros of the local currency between the timing and economic feasibility



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Raised the project to delete the zeros of the local currency, which was announced the CBI on June 22 last debate between the economic and financial circles, at the time raised the reactions of the popular wondering about the timing and economic feasibility of the process that could cost millions of dollars and spoke upheaval in the domestic market. ( (Union) polled a number of experts and academics on the dialectic of the deletion of zeros from the local currency over the following survey:



Ready to erase the zeros
Iraqi Central Bank confirms its willingness to delete the zeros of the local currency pointing at the same time that those zeros that are added to the Iraqi currency during the last period formed a cluster of large cash hit (27) trillion dinars, and said the appearance of Mohammed Salih, adviser to the Iraqi Central Bank: This step is jobs strategy of the Bank, and the zeros that are added to the Iraqi currency during the last period formed a cluster of large cash amounted to more than four trillion paper reviews categories of the Iraqi currency value of financial Bgt (27) trillion Iraqi dinars after it was (25) billion dinars in 1980 He pointed out: that Iraq is unable to manage this block because it is a small country where the large number of money circulating in the Iraqi market has led to a confusion in business dealings in the work of the huge banks .. Adding that the bank has fully prepared for the deletion of zeros from Iraqi dinar and that the deletion of zeros is a national issue and may need to special legislation, although the Central Bank of Iraq is the reform of management system of currency from the heart of his work and that the deletion of zeros is one of the strategic functions of the Central Bank of Iraq, noting : that the bank was able during the last period to reduce the level of inflation to the level of one decimal after the passage of more than twenty years .. Indicating: that Iraq was able for the first time to reduce inflation to 2%, which reflects the success of Iraq's monetary policy.
ا Fear of counterfeit currency

The economic researcher Abdul Salam Jumaili he says that the project to delete the zeros regulating mechanism for lifting the three zeroes to promote the value of local currency in circulation economic, external and internal which is a strategic project aimed at reducing the rates of inflation experienced by the Iraqi market, as it will free the Iraqi economy from the restrictions and damaged the value of the Iraqi dinar the World Bank's fund ..
Adding: when we want to buy dollars in 1200 dinars, we buy at one dinar and 200 fils, while the researcher says economic Mohammed Hatem Al-Kaabi on the subject: that most of the speakers with him from supporters and opponents disagree on the subject of hand out a good idea or not so good, everyone has the conviction that the deletion of zeros to be that is one day, but the objectors whom I am standing on the timing and feasibility of the process could cost millions of dollars may occur upheaval in the domestic market, which obviously he does not need a case of confusion, new point: that this amount is higher than the money, according to reports of the Central Bank of Iraq four trillion banknote is difficult to alter without constraints, the question arises how will change the currency, and alter the currency and to ensure the absence of manipulation during the switch, it is a matter numbers and zeros lift the zero set zero of sin, and confirms Al Kaabi said the draft of zeros and delete them in this way is a green light the mafias counterfeiting to put forged banknotes can be lost from the process of exchange coordination and purchase of receivables As for the priorities do not say more than what specialists in this area because the economic situation need to follow the structural and the money that will be spent on the switch I see that the sectors of interest to the citizen first, such as the health sector and education and increase the productive capacity of the country and the adoption of incomes of a new alternative for oil will run dry one day and we will find ourselves in the desert where no water, no green in the face of good I do not think that the story is far from the political, there are those who want to say I made the dinar as the dollar and this phrase will go on citizen unnoticed.
Risks to the economic security

The economic adviser in the government Hussain Anbuge: The process of deletion of zeros from the currency will increase the phenomenon of money laundering and the government is working to convince the central bank need to stop work on the implementation of the project, indicating: that the government had informed the Central Bank of the existence of a risk to economic security in the event insisted the bank to delete the the zeros of the local currency .. He continued by saying that this process costs time and effort of the government and the central bank raises the level of fraud, some terrorist groups to carry out the smuggling of money out of the country, either the stock market in Iraq, in turn, will be affected by the process of deletion of zeros from Iraqi dinar, according to a member of the Federation of Iraqi mediators Mohammed Ismail, who said: that in the case of deletion of zeros from the currency will drop capital companies proportions of zeros and that, for example, if the company's capital of three billion will be three million dinars, and in this case will be in front of the stage must be where the market closed for a certain period for the issuance of certificates of new shares to holders with the remaining number of shares on the situation and to draw: that the process of removing the zeros economic process difficult and complex needs numbers and accurate statistics for all economic activities, not Iraq has like, banking offices, in turn expressed their discontent with the process and said that Ahmed Rikabi the banking alligator in the Karrada district, who refused to portray his place explanation: that the situation the security situation being experienced by banking offices how the country has proved to the world that he is unable to protect its banks and its markets and banking offices in which to replace its currency, removing the zeros in the light of ignorance of the concrete of the ordinary citizen of what is happening in the financial transactions and where to go the budget years that exceeded the barrier of $ 300 billion either for offices Banking and says: All I fear is the increasing numbers of banknotes counterfeit, and it certainly will dominate the market and spread the idea of ​​change, and delete the zeros indicating: that the project to delete the zeros from the currency will negatively affect the Iraqi economy that has not been made by careful examination by specialists in financial matters The cash is certain: if the monetary mass that remained unchanged no value to the project to delete the zeros .. As for Dr. Bassem Jamil Antoine Vice-President of the Federation of Iraqi businessmen, he said: In fact, the meaning of the process of removing the zeros is to reduce the currency's size I do not think that this step will be an impact on the Iraqi economy, which is noted by the recession and lack of economic growth and this process if I want her to bear fruit must be economic steps, accompanied by economic plans are clear and the whole process needs to create and to keep logistics through seminars, meetings and workshops for Iraqi banks for the ordinary citizen to be aware of the move, so do not be fooled and be easy prey to gangs, extortion and laugh at the simple citizen, and I think The issue needs to study more than one year so satisfying topic of research and educate all segments of the community and listen to all opinions noting: that the Iraqi currency is divided into two parts: the first in the banks, and the second when the citizen so we need to tightened security measures along with significant economic gains can be switched dinar from local currency to a global currency .. And inflation and its relationship to Balasfar said inflation does not address in this way never, but addresses the scientific studies that can promote the private sector and eliminate unemployment and do the industrial sector, government and civil and promote the agricultural sector, it is not hidden on the events of 80 percent of the basket of Iraq are imported from abroad, and this means that out of hard currency clarity the day, this with reference to the seven million Iraqis are living below the poverty line, and draws Antoine that this experience is not the result of Iraqi thought and came before them, Italy and Turkey when Khzvt zeros six but vary the timing and the necessities of phase, while the researcher believes the economic Karim Hilfi: The Bank's decision Central deletion of three zeroes in the long term, not a new decision on the economic scene has preceded us several countries to the special mention of Germany, adding that the situation in Iraq where there are no objective conditions for deletion, because Iraq is suffering from problems of structural economic and inflation is strong as well as high rates of How unemployment will be the deletion of zeros from the dinar, which is basically non-existent .. And between: that Iraq is able to move forward with this decision either short or long, both saying that the explanation: it is possible to delete the zeros when the output strong and Jlth Department in addition to the absence of structural imbalances or inflation, and unemployment is less than 10 % noting: the decision can not be implemented only after a long time, even if carried out within a year or two it will be a negative impact because the economy is in recession now.

In turn, drew the academic researcher Hilal Taan: that the project to delete the zeros is a project proposed by former Finance Minister Bayan Jabr, and can be applied and studied as a medium or long term, can not be applied only after the stability of the economic situation and improve the Iraqi dinar exchange rate .. He Taan: The project has several requirements the most important he needs a stable economy in some respects, and needs substantial financial resources in addition to supporting the Iraqi dinar, foreign stocks, and it could be applied during the last period but for the effects of the global financial crisis on the Iraqi economy .. Considered the economic and safety expert: The process of deletion of zeros from currency is a good step, but requires more efforts of the media of economic efforts and attributed the reason is that the market will be exposed to vibration as soon as the citizen's belief that the deletion of zeros will affect negatively on the real value of the coin .. She added that the real value of the coin is the value of goods received by the individual and that on the strength of the national economy, saying: These things can be achieved stability of the security situation in addition to the media a major economic effort to educate citizens about the positive results of the process of removing the zeros.
Citizens proposed فارAli Faraj, 35, says that the process of deletion of zeros from the currency will contribute to raising the purchasing power, and also that efforts to raise the zeros and change the current currency contributes to the creation of a state of confusion in the monetary policy, compared to no changes in the value of purchasing real currency .. Adding that there is a risk of leakage of foreign currency abroad after the ratification of the policy of freedom of exchange, especially as the auctions the central bank of the dollar contributed to the exit of large amounts of foreign currency from Iraq, while he says Muhannad Salem employees that the process of deletion of zeros from the local currency's decision is not feasible and will not contribute to raise the value of the Iraqi dinar, while cause when applied to problems of multi-dimensional added to the problems suffered by the Iraqi economy, including confusion and disorganization of the market in buying and selling and debt among citizens as well as confuse the mental state that Stantab the citizen as a result of the emergence of a new phenomenon require adaptation by the are of the view of Hamza Hussein : that the project and before applying it requires coinage small denominations of currency, which represent parts of the dinar, and that these currencies would cost the state large sums eight project does not enhance the value of Iraqi Dinar where it will remain a value as it is and the results are equal, is certain: the need to deal with this project with caution because it may cause economic problems in the Iraqi Central Bank as well as presenting the project to specialists in economics to indicate their opinion on the subject before the application and noted citizen Hassan Hamid to the approval of a project that aims to raise the value of the Iraqi dinar to its former value to return is equal to $ 3.33 U.S. through several measures, including a review of the proposed import because it drains excess foreign currency and deposited with the Central Bank of Iraq as well as reducing public spending to the state and its departments with regard to import of expensive furniture can be obtained through the local market.


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Post by jerdjj on Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:54 pm

confused Thanks for responding, everyone!! Seems to be lots of debate on this issue of the "rate" of the IQD RV.

Breitling has set himself up as the expert claiming that if the RV is $3+ it will be too expensive for foreign countries to "invest" as the start rate will have to be "about a buck"...which will help Iraq get the economy to "mature" up to its real rate potential of $3+ USD.

But he says you will "not make $3, $4, even $2 USD on your 000 denoms, you will get about a buck" (Oct. 7 a.m. breitling commentary).

He then states that Iraq's top economists are saying this....and that Shabibi told them this...??!

I would like to see the article that Shabibi delcared between $.86 and $1.17....that Breitling is referring to and making it sound like common knowledge that we should all supposedly "know"... and thus no debate....

Anyone out there know about this article or when Shabibi made this statement?(according to Breitling).......

OKIE...you there??

This would certainly stop any "debate" on the RV "rate"....

Breitling states that this is the information from Iraq.....proudly....'non-intel' .....

and that no top economist Breitling has spoken to... thinks the RV will come out any higher that "about a buck."

Help here??Rolling Eyes

Vic from IQD team stated that nobody can "force me to trade in my 25,000 IQD"...I bought it with my earnest money, and I want to hold it...in my currency account. (Sunday night call, Oct. 9.. to my question on Q&A "washington".....)

Who is going to force me to turn the large denoms in?? Shabibi?

Every 90 days with 2.5% increase means I could wait it out and let my IQD increase the next few years...but this won't happen with all the foreign investors coming to Iraq from around the world(he then lists countries in the ME, Europe, Asia, S.America, etc...

Vic stated that these other nations would swoop in and bankrupt Iraq at a small 86 cent RV.

Whever you have gold and oil, like Iraq, you do not allow other nations to come in and purchase property, however you can "lease it" for 50 years...this is because Iraq has the 4th largest reserve of oil.

"about a buck" RV would mean political and economic suicide....

Joey finished by stating the in 1980 the IQS was worth $3.22 and Oil was only $15 per barrel !!!

(IQD Team Call Sunday night, October 9)



Thanks for any articles showing the "about a buck" statement from Iraq and Shabibi....bounce

Thus the $3+ RV supports Breitling's view that Iraq will have "reverse inflation"...therefore it MUST come in at "about a buck" so other nations "can" invest.....

However, "about a buck" supports IQD team's view that it will cause other nations to come in and Iraq will go "bankrupt" because it is too low of a start rate.....therefore it will be at $3+ USD for the RV...



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Post by bigdaddytim on Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:21 pm

I know this thought is unpopular, but if there were to be an .86 to 1USD, the rate would cause the dinar to be on a more even plane with the USD. If the USD devalues at the "Stansbury Rate", and decreases by the possible 75% at the drop of the basket, we would still be in the 3.86 to 1 USD that we have been looking at.



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Post by red88lx on Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:40 pm

I dont really have an opinion on this what I do have is iqd and I just want to cash it in someday soon

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Post by silkysand on Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:02 pm

Ditto !!🇳🇴
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Post by jerdjj on Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:18 am

Sounds like Frank on his Frank Villa call tonight, is another "dollar for dinar" guy......one IQD = 1 USD.....

Stilll have not heard from anyone on "where" the article is that states Shabs or GOI or CBI are saying this..??
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Post by openmind on Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:10 am

@jerdjj wrote:Sounds like Frank on his Frank Villa call tonight, is another "dollar for dinar" guy......one IQD = 1 USD.....

Stilll have not heard from anyone on "where" the article is that states Shabs or GOI or CBI are saying this..??

have you heard any of these guys stating it will rv without lop in the first place?

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