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RayRat/Tony Call Notes 2/13/19

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Post by Ssmith Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:47 am

(Bullet pts by AZhombre) Replay: 641.715.0623, PIN CODE 409029# AUDIO REPLAY Earlier “Blasts”:

Opening Comments: Tony/Good morning TNT!Ray will come along when he can. I’m going to wait until Ray can read the questions.

Ray/from 1 extreme to the other.

Tony/ no updates! Everybody is still quiet. Info saying this is going all the way to the middle of March. Banks are still sitting on it for now. Other people saying prolonged until March. Banks are happy with “slow-methodical” roll-out.

I wish I had great news, like 4pm Friday. They are prepared. I don’t even like talking about Mar or the 25th of Feb.

Board Questions: Avcountry: Will BB&T be one of the banks to do exchanges (they send all currency to home office to verify)?

Ray/yes! They did a yr ago, 2 yrs ago, and 3 yrs ago.

Tony/merging bank. Send it to the home office for verification then call you back.

FingersXed: Talk of Zim holders receiving a text or email for setting appt. If we bought off Ebay/individual, how would “they” have my contact info? What should I do? Tks for help!

Tony/that fact is a lie! Nobody is going to contact you. They don’t know you purchased it. Other Guru’s and lying! Tell them to prove it. “how do you know they have Zim?”

Vinterv: Lena asked in chat: have the contractors been pd and if not have they been given a new date and rate?

Ray/they can post their questions!

Jiminkc: Mon you addressed the Exchange Fee, but not the Spread Fee. What will banks be paying us to buy back our currencies (take off the $4.43 buy rate)?

Ray/25% spread.

Tony/spread isn’t a fee. Difference between the buy & sell. Should be what it is now.

WealthyWoman43: you said banks had a 48-hr. window. Are we still in that window?

Atlast-51: Have we passed the 48-hr window? Or still waiting? Tony/haven’t gotten to that window yet!

Psychicgrama: 3 wks ago talked about the $50 dinar. Will they accept it?

Tony/why won’t they take it? We’ll find out.

Papito3891424: Would you recommend the inclusion of an annuity into a Trust?

Ray/trust acquired annuities in trust, yes.

SusanaC: has the projected rv rate for old zim (2008-09) changed from your last confirmed rate of $0.02?

Tony/2 cent was never the rate of the Zim. The current rate on forex would equate to 2 cents for a 100 m note.

RevJHG: has the set on the 48 hr window indicated on Monday? If not any reason to expect it will?

Ttavern: Can you speak on the woman they speak highly of to get the interior position?

Tony/ know nothing about her at all. Google her name.

Ritagirl: Said in the past banks wanted to hold us and not allow the full exchange until March 1st. Does it look like that’s what they’re doing now?

Jessie91: What happened to Iraqi TV reporting budget will be printed in Gazette “in the next 2 days” and enforced immediately upon its printing? How did they get out of exchanging after they printed it would be enforced?

Tony/laughed! Because it’s Iraq, budget came at the old rate not the new rate. Just didn’t change the rate in the budget. In full compliance right now. Real question is where are they getting all this money they started doing? We know there’s supposed to be a new rate. Waiting to see.

SusanaC: Has the projected rv rate for dong changed fr your last confirmed $1.37? Are they still live on back screen at bank? Tony/no info from banks. Unusually quiet!

Bunky: Is it possible to turn our exchange into gold and silver at exchange? Then use it for collateral to do our projects? Tony/85-99% sure not be able to do that during exchanges. Reschedule with your wealth manager/banker later.

Angelswme: Will there be security in parking lots when we go to exchange?

Tony/yes! Nhimiam: quickly go thru exchange of 3 currencies. Tony/always told to place Dinar in a separate account. If you want to put them in 3 different accounts, you should be able to. Ask the question when you call the 800#. I’m not putting mine in 3, just 2 different accounts.

Live Callers:

951/SoCalGuy: What’s your CBI guy saying now?

Tony/doing it the middle of March. My committee guy knows nothing about that.

C/Taxes&Tarrifs Fees?

Tony/they have to before we see this happen. Nobody can afford to do that at the program rate. All of this March “slow roll-out” doesn’[t make sense if they do “tax & tariffs”.

C/doesn’t the US get 50%?

Tony/ don’t know.

C/is that 2 cents rate on forex the 2009 AA notes?

Tony/no, current rates. Committee member said use the “current rate” comes out to $2m. The rate we were given was 11cents. C/gut feeling:

Tony/trying to muddy the waters so nobody knows anything. Looking for this weekend, before the 17th. Common sense tells me it have to be done unless they do something uncommon!

Tony/they can change dates.

805/Oxnard,CA/Trust question. Grown children w/trusts?

Tony/you don’t want to give them $ upfront. Invest in the IMF platform, and the interest given to your siblings in interest to their individual trusts.

Tony/yes! Don’t give them the money, give them the money that money makes!

Ray/invest the money and divide to the 5 individuals. If IMF, money is tax free. Told by some that you could grant amounts tax free, may be taxable, into the trust. That would be the route I would take. Still be better than making them the owners. Granting into each trust.

801/Salt Lake City, UT. Condolences on having to join the club of losing a loved one.

Questions on spreads: Chase 20%, WF 25%. Say $4 rate, will see $3.20 with 20% spread.


C/groups saying 11% tax. If we go in for a “contract rate” will we be hit w/a 11% tax.

Tony/not signing for a contract rate. Not selling it to the bank. That country is paying them, that’s why they have “pay-masters”. They are being paid.

C/so we won’t see the 11% tax.


C/then I won’t complain.

205/Birmingham/AL. Trust question.

Ray/if you’re the grantor you can change the trust.

C/if I give her 5% and wait to see can handle the money I want to be able to change it.

Ray/not changing, you’re the “grantor” and can regulate how much flows into the trust.

Tony/he wants to know if he can control all of it.

Ray/then you can’t.

C/want to be able give her more money every year when she learns not to waste it all. Ray/put in $500k and sit on the other $4.5m, then wait until she can do what you want.

C/just keep buying dong and wait for this thing to pop!

R/mo money!!!!!

731/Jackson, TN. (nope).

214/ Dallas, TX. When “grantor” passes away, what happens? Ray/learn purpose of the tool and how to use it. The trust owns the money. Trying to connect “ownership” activity. You’re not going to own it! If you don’t own it, you’re not hiding things, so if you’re in a lawsuit nobody can take it from you! Need to learn it from somebody once you have money to pay for the education. Learn the tools and information.

C/when are you coming to Dallas again?

Ray/there will be a session post RV.

Tony/grantor passes away, how do we get a new grantor?

Ray/the trustees are.

Tony/who controls after the grantor passes away.

Ray/tony you give me some money and give me stipulations to give it away to your son in a certain amount of time. Basically, I’m treating like it’s my money.

Tony/what happens when you pass away?

Ray/whoever I select will take over. 5 min phone call isn’t fair to you.

C/? on ministers:

Tony/could wait until March. Never had to have the ministers. Hopefully we don’t have to wait to see her being in charge of the money.

323/Los Angeles, CA. (nope! Not up!)

• 240/Germantown, MD. What happened with statements we need to get this done before he has his fingers in it? If the IMF is pleased, we don’t have the info for the “why”. It’s a drain!

Tony/I go thru it multiple times a day. We can’t know the plan! If we knew the plan, and this is the day. Would you not tell everyone in your family “this is going today”? They can’t have us know the “plan”. We were never supposed to know any of this. The rich were supposed to get richer.
C/not trying to poop in the punch bowl.

• 978/Lowell, MA. Calling from rainy Florida. 3 reasons I know it’s going to happen before “presidents’ day”. Mercury retrograde. 2nd reason: 188888 on odometer: wealth, abundance, power, good fortune. Personal prediction: Mother won $30m, 30 yrs ago. Caller feels she will be able to pay her mother back for all the good things she has done! Envisioning Vegas Event with “Earth Wind & Fire” and will gladly pay for it for your event. Should I carry my currency while flying?

Tony/definitely not! Take some with you. Enough money you can travel with. Go back, charter a plane. Be careful traveling with large sums of money. Law enforcement can take it. You have to prove to get it back.

• 503/Portland, OR. Are exchanges done on their own or with treasury?

Tony/it requires authorization #. Assume exchanging with the treasury. Banks aren’t going to do something they aren’t guaranteed on.

C/banks have a back door.

Tony/that’s reality! Putting it on the books. Nobody will back-date. Slowly fill the coffers up. Don’t want mindless millionaires-billionaires. They’re doing it just like they’ve done it in the past. Saying just doing it a couple of weeks in advance.

C/if an 800# comes out, who will operate that system?

T/our info says by the treasury.

• 504/New Orleans, LA. How long does it take to do a trust?

R/a few yrs.

C/what about a revocable trust until you learn how it works.
R/once you learn the mistakes you made you could start over. Best, and least expensive to wait. What’s the hurry? Train on what you want.

• 303/ Denver, CO. Just finished reviewing the “foundation” call. Do you have one on trusts?

R/no. When you get your private foundation, don’t do 5 things. Follow the rules. You can’t lose.

C/in the set-up wouldn’t have successor trustees to continue the benefits going out?

R/once a trust is established, the “grantor” has nothing to do with it! The one you were talking about was only for “probate avoidance”. Successor trustee…. Goes on!

• 610/Gman in PA. checks made out to “Ray Renfrow, P.O. Box 1748, Elm City, N.C. 27822. Electronic donations at www.tntsuperfantastic.comor cash.me/$TNTSuperfantastic

• 404/Good?Lady!/Atlanta, GA. Are they going back to old days of the algorithms, etc.?

T/haven’t heard. Rate on bank screen for past 2 weeks ready to go and just waiting for someone saying to say “go”.

C/PM’s web site gone down.

Tony/know March 1st is the date they want to get started. C/something about putting CIA lady?

T/put you in a room with the lady that came up with a “hand signal”.

C/I’ve got to say I have a 50/50 chance of not coming out! This is a “mind game”.

Tony/how do you decide which phone to pick (2 different area codes). Keeping the phone company in business.

Friday call?

T/don’t know. Are they actually going to do the tariffs or not? Banks aren’t saying anything, really quiet.

C/how do you ask?

Tony/still see rates, what info, window changed…etc. Every bank was excited and expected us to be there Tuesday (yesterday). Another window 48 hrs.

• 816/Kansas City, MO. Do you know if the people who have exchanged paid the “spread fee”.

Tony/not fee. You really want to know if it was the sale or buy rate? How did he get it without the exchange fee?

Tony/they could have set it up like that. Every transaction has been by the buy right and not the sale rate. I will ask that question.

C/we talk about plans, A, B, C… under assumption we’d get the $4.44. Confusing. So, I thought I need to buy more.

Tony/will try and find out what was on the board. Banks get 1% from the Swift Account, they’re not losing any money.

C/if they want to charge you for the spread, what would you do? Tony/first of all, how much I have, leave in the bank, how long, risk factors, etc…. OK, now that I see I’m getting more, let’s lock it up for 5 years!

C/why banks can’t get final word on exchanging 008 Zim? Tony/don’t know what’s finalized. May even end up in court. Don’t throw it away. We’re getting info we shouldn’t even have! Banks are reading old info what’s on their screen.

C/now we’re 1.5 mo’s later, banks not asking treasury.

T/DC is saying it is not going! Still be negotiated and can go later. Banks aren’t changing until it goes live. Only thing I can do is talk to committee member.

C/thank you for what you’ve done!

Closing Comments: All we can do is put the pieces of the puzzle together. Stay strong. We know the history of what other countries have gone thru after war. All we have to do is wait. Get some more. I can’t believe that they let me make another million dollars this week. Pick-up another million Dong. I can’t make them (do it now), control them, but can benefit.

Ray/another “hump day Wednesday”.

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