Sam I Am In IQDCalls Chat - Unfiltered 11/24/18

Zig  Sam I Am : So let's say they change....what does an Iraqi get for a 25K note???

Sam I Am  LeLe LeLe it's no skin off my nose what any of you do, but I would hope you act on facts instead of misinformation that's all

LeLe PM Sam I Am why do you want them to RV? You hold no Dinar. LMAOOOOO

Dave  whos mis info....

Sam I Am  Zig Same as now ... 23 bucks

Zig  I see

Sam I Am  but there will be a new dinar where the 25 notes is also worth 23 bucks

Dave  1 dinar for that coke without a rate change...I doubt coca cola would sell for .0008 a bottle to iraqis

Sam I Am  but they might not call it dinar ... maybe riyal or something else

Zig  Confusing...

Dave  iqn....

Zig  So our notes would be good but not at a new value.....

Sam I Am  Zig It's not confusing. The gurus have confused everybody with their nonsense

Zig  Will not be happy if you are right....lol

Sam I Am  It's pretty simple actually. The current notes are honored at the current rate until phased out. The new currency has a higher value and lower supply. Net effect is zero. It's only done to simplify cash transactions and give the nation a psychological boost

Zig  ;mad

Sam I Am  In the stock market they do something similar called a reverse stock split

Dave  Sam I Am 1 dinar for that coke without a rate change...I doubt coca cola would sell for .0008 a bottle to iraqis

Sam I Am  Dave I do too, but you're distorting the whole thing

Dave  how

Sam I Am  1 new dinar would buy a coke ... 1,000 old dinar would buy the same coke

Zig  Stop distorting, Dave  !!...lol

Sam I Am  as long as the old dinar is honored

Zig  I am getting depressed.....SIGH

Sam I Am  Zig That's what reality does

Dave  Sam I Am so cbi claims

Zig  Well most disagree with you, Sam....so I still will hang in there..........

Sam I Am  The reality is that we'll all die some day. Depressing yes, but it does no good to pretend it won't happen.

Zig  I hope you get into DP and they invite you on a call....would be very interesting.....

Dave  what am i distorting?

Zig  Wish kaperoni would come in when you are here someday................

Sam I Am  Dave The part about 1 IQD buying a coke

Sam I Am  It would take 1,000 IQD to buy what 1 unit of the replacement currency would buy

Dave  unit?

Dave  delete 3 zeros

Zig  I understand what you are saying, Sam but you are the only one with that view....that I have seen......

Dave  wheel barrow Sam....

Sam I Am  Zig Everybody at Dinar Daily holds my view

Sam I Am  except Spectra 

Sam I Am  lol

Sam I Am  Marcus Curtis, too

Zig  LOL

Zig  Spectra has a mind of her own....LOL

Sam I Am  But like I said most people who hold my view have left the dinar world

Dave  coke would not sell at .0008 a bottle

Sam I Am  I hang around to help people understand

Zig  Sam I Am : I see

Woke AF Dave oh no! Did you see this?

Dave  with out rate change

Woke AF http://capforcanada.com/international-law-to-supersede-canadian-law-with-signing-of-migration-pact/

Sam I Am  Dave Again, the new currency ... not the IQD

Sam I Am  You will never buy a coke with 1 IQD

Sam I Am  It will never be worth more than 1/10 of a penny

Zig  Even the new value of 1 Dinar.....so really not new

Sam I Am  Again, this is assuming they ever get around to changing their currency

Sam I Am  They may never do it ... S. Korea kept their low value all these years

Dave  Sam I Am currencies to run concurrently for 19 yrs

Sam I Am  about the same value as the IQD

Dave  10 sorry

Zig  Then the value will not really change at all....just lower notes??

Dave  Zig   wrong....

Sam I Am  Dave Different articles say different things, but what they mean is that the IQD will be honored at banks for 10 years but only accepted for purchases for 2 years

Sam I Am  Zig Only the replacement notes will be lower ... don't need lower notes for the IQD at .00085

Zig  Dave : Who knows who is wrong or right at this point....

Dave  Zig cbi

Zig  Sam I Am : Have you read stuff coming out of the CBI?

Dave  do you not read the articles yourself or depend on what gurus tell you

Zig  I read things that could be interpreted many ways...

Sam I Am  Zig   I used to read that stuff but I quit in 2011

Sam I Am  Translation from Arabic makes it too confusing

Sam I Am  Arablish

Dave  Zig all around the mullberry tree the monkey......

Zig  Look at all the opinions about what "Delete The 000" means.....

Sam I Am  I read IMF documents and research redenominations and revaluations in English

Sam I Am  Zig   You know what it means

Sam I Am  I know you do

Dave  cbi says same value.....

Sam I Am  be honest

Zig  Kaperoni says means remove the notes from circulation gradually.....

Zig  Just saying that we interpret articles differently

Sam I Am  Zig Yes they will remove the IQD gradually

Sam I Am  But eventually the window will close

Dave  Zig who cares what kap thinks

Sam I Am  They did the same thing in Brazil. My Brazilian friends told me how it worked there

Sam I Am  Equal purchasing power in lower notes

Zig  The point being people come to different conclusions

Sam I Am  Just had to turn the old currency in by the deadline

Zig  That study this day and night

Dave  Sam I Am okay....

Zig  Kaperoni has researched this for many years steadily

Zig  So has Sam

Dave  so have many of us

Zig  YES

JoeSchmoe  Sam I Am what is your DP status?

Sam I Am  Zig You have to clear your mind of guru BS and study it outside of dinar land

TWWIII  Zig yes we have

Sam I Am  As a currency professional to explain it

Sam I Am  I had the privilege of learning from one

Sam I Am  Ask*

Dave  banks here not allowed to discvss exotic currencies

Zig  People research for a long time and come to different conclusions

JoeSchmoe  I would once and for all love for either Sam or DP to prove themselves right with their views, so we can all just move along

Sam I Am  JoeSchmoe   I've given you guys links several times

Zig  JoeSchmoe : Would love to hear Sam on a DP call...

JoeSchmoe  reason I want DP to be involved, is because they seem to be the most educated bunch I've seen in the past 10 years

Dave  JoeSchmoe why i dont understand 1000 fils a coke

Sam I Am  JoeSchmoe This shows you that other countries have done the same thing the CBI is describing

JoeSchmoe  trust me, I really dont' like their opinions of things a lot of times.,..but if it's the truth....

Sam I Am  There was no increase in purchasing power ... a neutral exchange

Dave  Sam I Am other counties situation are different

Sam I Am  Nope

Sam I Am  Other countries redenominated ... same thing Iraq announced

JoeSchmoe  Sam I Am are you accepted as a member yet over there?

Sam I Am  In fact Shabibi said that they're studying Turkey's redenomination

Sam I Am  Turkey lopped

Dave  we bombed them to the stoneage looking for weapons of mass destructio

TWWIII  Zig Currency trends do repeat some what like the past repeats. To learn more abt buying/selling/trading one should research trends for around 30-40 years back. History does repeat itz self.

Dave  slapped sanctions on themto boot....

Dave  Sam I Am turkey lopped ...why.....hyperinflation

Sam I Am  Dave To remove the effects of past hyperinflation ... just like Iraq had

Sam I Am  Sam I Am Shabibi talked about this in DC in 2011

Sam I Am  They added the zeros because of inflation

Dave  Sam I Am turkey not sanctioned by the world

Sam I Am  and now they're ready to remove those zeros

Sam I Am  in a redenomination

Sam I Am  Dave irrelevant

Sam I Am  The issue isn't sanctions ... it's removing the zeros to simply things

Dave  Sam I Am cbi states 2 currencies 10 yrs same rate....

Sam I Am  As Zig says, with 70 trillion in circulation there's no way that Iraq can raise the value of their currency 1000 times

Sam I Am  Obviously they're talking about a lop

Sam I Am  Dave The same rate refers to honoring the IQD at the same rate

Dave  Sam I Am break out the wheel barrows then

JoeSchmoe  Sam I Am do you think that ALL the gurus realize this and believe it, and are just pumping for thier ownbenefits?

Sam I Am  what's the point in having two Iraqi currencies at the same rate? LOL

Dave  ask cvbi

Sam I Am  JoeSchmoe I think some do and some don't

Dave  cbi

Sam I Am  some are scammers and some are ignorant like I was

Zig  Hasn't Iraq said that they want a strong currency?

Dave  cbi good scammer then

Sam I Am  Zig Iraq has said that they currently HAVE a strong currency

Sam I Am  They're not talking about the rate ... they're talking about the fact that they're backing it at such a high %

Sam I Am  I wrote about this in Forum Facts

Zig  Hmmmmm.....at its current value?

Zig  Oh

Dave  Sam I Am get a brownie badge?

JoeSchmoe  Sam I Am is that your site?

Zig  I AM NOT GIVING UP!!!!.....lol

Dave  cbi is not going to advertise date of a rv

JoeSchmoe  Does the cbi make loads of money off of us that buy dinar for this speculation?

Dave  make the spead

JoeSchmoe  If no, then why wouldn't they or ANYONE tell everyone that we aren't going to prosper?

Sam I Am  Dave They're not going to advertize the new rate of an RV either ... obviously they're talking about an RD

Sam I Am  or lop

Zig  But you need to keep an open mind for all possible outcomes IMO

Baxter  OHIO STATE.... 62 MICHIGAN 39.....

JoeSchmoe  Baxter what was the over/under on that game?

Dave  Sam I Am yes and

Sam I Am  JoeSchmoe Iraq's #2 export is the IQD ... they want to keep those dollars rolling in

Baxter  MICHIGAN BY 14

JoeSchmoe  Baxter no, the over/under, how high or low were they predicting the total score

Sam I Am  That's why I doubt that they'll ever carry this out

Baxter  OH.. I dont know Joe... it wasnt supposed to be this high of a score though

Sam I Am  They'll probably do what Vietnam does ... .slowly lower the value to increase their exports

Sam I Am  That's why I predicted that the next move will be a devaluation

Sam I Am  around 1200:1

Woke AF  Baxter congrats!

Baxter  most sportscasters were saying about 25-14 Michigan

Baxter  THX WOKE..

Baxter  DEFENSE STEPPED UP... BIG TIME

Woke AF  I watched the 2nd half

Dave  Saudi UAE Bahrain etc do fine with just 1 export

JoeSchmoe  Baxter i remember i put an under bet on a college game that was forecasted at 62 points...I knew nothing about college ball. It went to 80 lol

Zig  Sam I Am : No matter what you write you will never convince anyone here......lol......but you do make me think which is good......

Woke AF  Gave play by play to future  $$$, he had to work...

Woke AF  Defense didn't show up till after halftime! LOL Baxter

JoeSchmoe  well I've come this far and will take the chance to see it all the way.

Woke AF  Damn! That was a crazy game

Zig  Yes, Joe

JoeSchmoe  I read over at DP that people don't want Sam to debate them. WHY????

Sam I Am  Zig I don't worry about the close minded people .... I do this for the sake of those who want to learn

TWWIII  We need to research which country/countries are influencing Iraq's CBI & the people involved in the MR policies.

Baxter  THIS Quarterback for Ohio State.. is just sophomore..... he has thrown for 41 TD in 2 years... a BIG TEN RECORD...and he is just a sophomore.. Passed Drew Breese today..

Woke AF  Wow! Congrats Baxter

Zig  Sam I Am : I understand

Sam I Am  JoeSchmoe why do you think?

Woke AF  Poor future   money going to have a heart attack! Baxter

JoeSchmoe  I know why, but they could be happy with the ending if Pat and Bobby are able to prove you wrong

Sam I Am  Zig you're going to be very unpopular in the dinar world

Zig  JoeSchmoe : Yes

Baxter  SAM I AM.... everytime you come in here...you just preach..and preach..and preach... I get tired of your sermons....

Zig  Sam I Am : Don't care....lol

Sam I Am  Baxter Then prove me wrong

Baxter  and so is everyone else

Sam I Am  I would love to be proven wrong

Sam I Am  I'd go buy more dinar and get rich

Dave  preach not teach.....?

Baxter  You must lead a sorry ..sorry life.....

Woke AF  Baxter BBL~

JoeSchmoe  Sam I Am what I don't fully understand about you and the SandyF's of the anti dinar world...is if you truly don't believe and don't own any dinar, then why are you trying to convince all of us who you DON'T KNOW??

Zig  Sam, nobody's opinion ever bothers me....why it bothers others I have no clue....

Sam I Am  Trust me, I wanted this RV ... I hung on for a year and a half

Baxter  to be that negative and spread it day after day.... I feel sorry for you....

Sam I Am  Then I quit listening to gurus and did real research

Zig  Sam's views just make me think which is good....

JoeSchmoe  Sam I Am why do you continue to try and convnice us?

Baxter  OH so what.... we have a good time in here... Mr Negative

Baxter  until you came along

Sam I Am  JoeSchmoe Because I don't like to see people misled

Zig  Everyone is welcome here

Dave  Baxter dinard learned......

Zig  Not just like-minded people

JoeSchmoe  If I KNEW this would turn out good...if I had an inside lead...I would tell everyone once, and leave it be

TWWIII  WHOOOOOO the tea pot is boiling over

Zig  Not just for a small clique

JoeSchmoe  Sam I Am well, you have told us, and retold us...and retold us and so on and so on and so on....get my drift? You have done your best. So when you continue to shove it down our throats, it makes us not want to listen to it anymore

JoeSchmoe  makes it seem like there's an ulterior motive

Sam I Am  JoeSchmoe People have been telling me to go away for 7 years

JoeSchmoe  exactly

Zig  LOL

Zig  Shoo

Sam I Am  But at the same time people have been thanking me for helping them to understand this scam

Baxter  You are a sorry... sorry ... negative person.... you come in here once and a while and give a negativeter opinion...thats fine....but not everytime...every day....day after day... WE HEAR YA ... SAM I AM... WE know your stupid opinion by now.... dont you get the HINT after 7 YEARS

JoeSchmoe  maybe start your own site?

Dave  Baxter who?

Sam I Am  JoeSchmoe   I did that

Sam I Am  It was called Dinar Douchebags

Sam I Am  Then I joined up with Iraq Currency Watch

JoeSchmoe  is it an open forum or just a read site

JoeSchmoe  ah the site you are advertising

JoeSchmoe  ......

Sam I Am  I just pop in here to kill time

Zig  Sam knew he would not be received well here.....lol

Dave  Sam I Am me too

Baxter  GOOD..YOUR TIME IS KILLED... see ya...

Sam I Am  Baxter you leaving?

Dave  and do my homework

JoeSchmoe  well, as much as I want or wanted you to debate DP, I think I see the reason for your attendance here now.

Sam I Am  JoeSchmoe what is that?

Spectra  Baxter goodnight too you too

JoeSchmoe  get people to join your site, just like kap

Zig  Sam I Am : Are you at DP?

Spectra  Sam I Am   hello

Sam I Am  JoeSchmoe   Iraq Currency Watch is not monetized

JoeSchmoe  unless it is a '

JoeSchmoe  read only site

Sam I Am  We have no financial motivation

Sam I Am  Neither is the ICW YouTube channel

JoeSchmoe  I will have to talk to my web designer friend, and see what kind of benefits site owners get for hits

Sam I Am  Zig I was accepted, yes

JoeSchmoe  Sam I Am did you see what that one member said already?

Zig  This chat used to be like this more often in the past.....ask Spectra  .....lol

JoeSchmoe  afraid of your debate

LeLe  Baxter YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID.

TWWIII  Is someone here advertising their own web site...I thought that is not legal here?????

JoeSchmoe  maybe too many weak minded people

Spectra  Zig yes

Zig  LOL

Spectra  its all about who have in here

JoeSchmoe  I for one want you to open a debate thread for LOP there. But only because I don't believe it, and want them to prove you wrong

Zig  Get Sam on a DP call

JoeSchmoe  how

JoeSchmoe  I have never posted over there

Dave  JoeSchmoe lube....

JoeSchmoe  my good friend/neighbor got me to sign up with them, and I like them

JoeSchmoe  don't like their opinions a lot of the times, but it seems very accurate and truthful

TWWIII  JoeSchmoe   what is DP??

JoeSchmoe  dinar perspectives,a facebook group

TWWIII  T/Y

Spectra  TWWIII thats what i was wondering what is it ??

JoeSchmoe  led by banned by BGG from his forum

JoeSchmoe  banned members from there

JoeSchmoe  actually,banned MODs/leaders

Dave  JoeSchmoe bgg seemed reasonable.....mostly???

JoeSchmoe  I laugh at how that one dude singled me out for inviting Sam to debate over there lol

TWWIII  Well I wont join DP on FB because on own has well over 1,100 peeps. & I dont want that site to cross over to my FB page(s).

Zig  DP Recordings https://www.iqdcalls.com/Dinar-Perspective.html

JoeSchmoe  Dave reasonable in what aspect

Spectra  TWWIII EXACTLY

Spectra  TWWIII IM in agreement

JoeSchmoe  there are ways to keep it from doing that

JoeSchmoe  none of it shows on my public page

Spectra  takes away your privacy

JoeSchmoe  and can have none show in my private page too if i want

Dave  TWWIII kinda like the old iqdteam calls mostly news...

Sam I Am  JoeSchmoe What member was that?

Sam I Am  I sent a message to the admin

JoeSchmoe  I forget his name, but it is on the page there if you go look

JoeSchmoe  saign what

JoeSchmoe  saying what

Zig  Sam I Am : Now glad that "Nash" isn't here too.....lol.....

Sam I Am  I told him I was asked to join DP and participate

Spectra  Zig that would be cool

Zig  LOL....NO

Spectra  Sam I Am good

JoeSchmoe  Pat and Bobby both seem like reasonable guys, that would jump at the chance to prove your LOP theories wrong...especially for the benefit of those of us that don't know what to believe

Zig  Nash and I do not get along at all....

JoeSchmoe  and you SAM don't strike me as someone that would take it too far either. You seem to give your opinion and let it lie

Spectra  Zig he has never liked me either...lol

Zig  LOL

JoeSchmoe  Zig who is NASH

Sam I Am  Zig Odd. Nash and I get along great

Zig  JoeSchmoe : Another "Sam".....LOL

JoeSchmoe  lol

JoeSchmoe  never seen that name

Zig  RamblerNash

Spectra  Sam I Am TERBO alright

JoeSchmoe  so SAM, why don't you send a message to Pat or Kaliegh, asking them if you could start a LOP thread, BECAUSE you were told by us here that they could prove you wrong? If done respectuflly and honorably, I bet they would jump at the chance.

JoeSchmoe  "I" want you proven wrong, as well as everyone else does too I'm sure. WHO wants a LOP????

Zig  Better yet, see if they would invite Sam to be on a call......

JoeSchmoe  that would be cool too.

JoeSchmoe  yea,cuz threads can get very censored

Sam I Am  I'll wait to hear back from Pat

JoeSchmoe  but again, DP doesn't strike me as a group that runs away from things like this, or tries to shield it's members from it either

Spectra  LOL

JoeSchmoe  Sam I Am Did you let Pat know who you are?

Sam I Am  yes

Spectra  :nuts:

JoeSchmoe  as in , the one who says to everyone it will LOP?

Sam I Am  JoeSchmoe I have never said they will lop. I have said that they're announcing a lop. God only knows if they'll ever do it.

JoeSchmoe  Sam I Am HUH??? I thought you were saying they were definitely going to LOP? That is how I have taken this whole gist from you

Sam I Am  Okay gang ... battery's low ... gotta run

Spectra  Sam I Am BYE

Sam I Am  JoeSchmoe No. This is all about what "delete the zeros" means

JoeSchmoe  and are you postitive that is their definition of it...LOP?

Sam I Am  I have said many times that they might never carry it out

JoeSchmoe  in your mind

JoeSchmoe  if they don't carry it out, will they rv?

Sam I Am  because they don't want IQD coming back into their country for USD

Sam I Am  JoeSchmoe Not likely. It's more likely they'll devalue or lower the value like Vietnam does

JoeSchmoe  k

Spectra  THERE YOU GO JOE

JoeSchmoe  Spectra ?

Spectra  Sam I Am Thanks for going through the whole exspanation again for joe...

Sam I Am  you're welcome

Sam I Am  later guys

Tebow  Sam I Am Thwe CBI never said the were going to LOP. Quit making crap up. No wonder your blog did so poorly

JoeSchmoe  Spectra well either way, it's not anything anyone agrees with

JoeSchmoe  Tebow his definition of DTX

JoeSchmoe  DTZ

Tebow  He knows nothing! Only an opinion based on nothing like all gurus!

Spectra  JoeSchmoe Look i did not ever say i agree....FURTHER MORE IVE NEVER CARED IN MY LIFE what the majority think.....

Zig  Spectra : In this case the small minority....

Spectra  The majority of people ive seen in this couldn't screw a nail in a wall if there life depended on it......lol

JoeSchmoe  I can hammer one in

Zig  Spectra : Meanie.....lol

Spectra  hey' ???

Spectra  i dont sugar coat

Baxter  Lets see... IRAQ is most likely the richest country in the world... Most of their debt has been forgiven.. They produce more oil than Saudi Arabia.. they have a limitless supply of sweet crude... so sweet.. it barely needs to be refined.. they have the richest farm land in the middle east.. they have natural gas supplies that are limitless.. they have diamond mines.... and on..and on....and... they are going to LOP their currency... :laugh ...or DEVALUE IT... :laugh THAT is how Stupid Sam I Am  s remarks are...

Zig  Spectra Really?....lol

Spectra  Baxter you think IRAQ IS THE RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD?

Baxter  One of them... absolutely

JoeSchmoe  sam said his site was not monetized, that does not mean HE is not monetized by someone or somewhere for trying to make us want to not believe and give up our dinar

Spectra  Most likly is not a factual statement

Dave  Baxter yep

JoeSchmoe  'one of' the richest countries?

Baxter  OK... One of top 3... HOWS THAT MRS SPECTRA

Dave  JoeSchmoe yep

JoeSchmoe  hard to read between the lines when you get heated

Spectra  Baxter no they are not TOP 3

Baxter  Im gonna go find me a big burger..before they LOP

Spectra  IN THE WORLD

Tebow  Baxter and he wants people to believe him. He has the wrong message. He sold his dinars, guess cause he couldn't afford them, it didn't RV on his timeline that the gurus told him, so now he's miserable and wants others to be. And no one follows him in this blog.

Baxter  agree TEBOW.... He is nothing to me

Dave  they found huge gold reserves 30 miles outside of Baghdad yrs ago

Baxter  just a big ...BAG OF WIND

JoeSchmoe  Baxter Tebow the hard truth is though, that NO ONE truly knows anything, because nothing has happened

Tebow  yes

JoeSchmoe  so you must keep all options open

JoeSchmoe  ...for discussion at least

Baxter  I agree Joe... but DAY..after DAY...after DAY...after DAY of his same old CRAP

JoeSchmoe  nothing has happened as far as what we are waiting on...increase in value that we can take part in

Spectra  TOP WEALTHIEST COUNTRIES-Qatar ($124,930) The small Middle Eastern country often ranks as one of the richest countries in the world per capita.

Luxembourg ($109,190) ...

Singapore ($90,530) ...

Brunei ($76,740) ...

Ireland ($72,630) ...

Norway ($70,590) ...

Kuwait ($69,670) ...

United Arab Emirates ($68,250) ...

JoeSchmoe  Baxter i hear ya

Dave  thought currencies were to be asset based.....

Tebow  JoeSchmoe just the point he thinks he knows! He doesn't.

JoeSchmoe  how about 'potential' wealth?

Baxter  spectra..... its whats in the ground over there... not on paper....

Dave  JoeSchmoe bingo

JoeSchmoe  iraq is still war torn

LeLe  Baxter i think if we all ignore him he'll get it. One sentence he says he sold his dinar, next time he says he hope it RVs, then he mentioned above he'll buy more dinar.

Baxter  LELE..... I wish we had an ignore button.... bbl

JoeSchmoe  LeLe I think he said he 'will' buy dinar again

JoeSchmoe  you can scroll up somwhere whwerever it was said

LeLe  What ever he said he is full of :garbage:

Tebow  Spectra most of the countries you listed are not in the ME

Spectra  Country GDP Per Capita (U.S. Dollars)

1 Qatar 124,930

2 Luxembourg 109,190

3 Singapore 90,530

4 Brunei Darussalam 76,740

5 Ireland 72,630

6 Norway 70,590

7 Kuwait 69,670

8 United Arab Emirates 68,250

9 Switzerland 61,360

10 San Marino 60,360

11 United States 59,500

12 Saudi Arabia 55,260

13 Netherlands 53,580

14 Iceland 52,150

15 Bahrain 51,850

16 Sweden 51,260

17 Germany 50,210

18 Australia 49,880

19 Taiwan 49,830

20 Denmark 49,610

21 Austria 49,250

22 Canada 48,140

23 Australia and New Zealand 48,030

24 Belgium 46,300

25 Oman 45,460

26 Finland 44,050

27 United Kingdom 43,620

28 France 43,550

29 Japan 42,660

30 Malta 42,530

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Spectra  Tebow LOOK BAHARAIN IS 1

JoeSchmoe  Spectra what about iraq's 'potential' wealth?

JoeSchmoe  who knows how long it will take, but they still have to rebuild

Spectra  JoeSchmoe What about it

JoeSchmoe  potentially top 3?

Spectra  JoeSchmoe potential means future   plausabilities

JoeSchmoe  all their natural reserves/assets

Spectra  JoeSchmoe until then its based on assumptions

Tebownone of those countries are on a program RATE!

Spectra  Tebow true

JoeSchmoe  that is why i say potential

Tebowall are traded Freely

TebowIraq is not!

Spectra  Tebow right and until they eliminate that aspect we will still be here

Dave  the saudis have been draining their oil field dry for decades now having to resorting to fracking......Iraq is still discovering huge fields

JoeSchmoe  is iraq wealthier than Saudi?

Tebowit's only time, some couldn't wait, now they complain

Dave  now....

JoeSchmoe  give me Saudi's rate, and I'm happy...what is it, .26 or thereabout?

JoeSchmoe  or maybe that was afghanistan?

Dave  JoeSchmoe they get so much more ....free education,healthcare property....most hire us to do their work

JoeSchmoe  Dave who

Dave  Saudi

JoeSchmoe  k

JoeSchmoe  what is their rate

Dave  like you suggested

JoeSchmoe  gimme that, and im 1/3 out

Dave  i think

Dave  bax too....

JoeSchmoe  iremember it being around that years ago when I last saw it

Dave  me too.... some???

Spectra  1 DAY PERHAPS in the meantime ---wait or get out....lol

Spectra  that's how i see it...I WILL WAIT!

JoeSchmoe  well it seems we will see an answer to our questions reasonably soon....reasonably being relative

Spectra  15 Years ive wated why on earth would i quit now!....

JoeSchmoe  with all their current dtz and value increase talk

JoeSchmoe  Spectra that is what i have been saying too. It would just be nice to have a little more faith while waiting

JoeSchmoe  inthis

Spectra  JoeSchmoe When a guy like Sam talks ,im not really listening because i do not think like him...I also think he has a right too his side......

JoeSchmoe  like i said, until this happens, all possibilities need to be considered.

Spectra  He may be a Downer too most but too me i se him as a unfortunate guy....Because if it goes he be sad....

JoeSchmoe  which is why i want the debate to happen with him and DP, because I believe they can prove him wrong

Spectra  but he probubly still has some dinar....

Spectra  JoeSchmoe proving him wrong is impossible because it has not been done yet....

Spectra  Good LUCK

JoeSchmoe  well not prove per se',but you know what i mean

future  joe the guy has been around for years where have u been he has been debated before

JoeSchmoe  give less credence to his theories

JoeSchmoe  future not seen him.

future  he has been almost on all sites

JoeSchmoe  obviously i've been at the forums/sites that banned him immediately lol

Spectra  I Dont think he should banned ......

JoeSchmoe  unfortunately, the sites I was a part of in the beginning were censoring a lot of things, things that would make us double think it

future  no he was at DV and Adam sends people that think its ggoing to lop to the lopster tank where they can debate within themselves and others that want to

JoeSchmoe  future ah, yea dv was my very first site

JoeSchmoe  never went to the lopsteer tank

Spectra  PEOPLE WHO want too ban free speech need their head examined...

future  he was never banned

JoeSchmoe  talking about sites like DU, PD,PTR, etxs

JoeSchmoe  etc

future  yes i usually stay far away from those sites

JoeSchmoe  wish i did, but too late

JoeSchmoe  however....if I had never been to one or some of them I woldn't have my stash i have

JoeSchmoe  could end up a curse....or benefit

Spectra  so you do have your doughts?

JoeSchmoe  of course

JoeSchmoe  NO ONE knows for sure

Spectra  thats right and no one knows just how it will END!

JoeSchmoe  not even close

Spectra  So let Sam talk '

future  spectra no one knows but sam i am constantly states iraq is not on a programmed rate or undervalued

JoeSchmoe  I never DIDN"T want him to talk

future  thats when i stop listening

Dave  JoeSchmoe they currently do not deserve to have a high valued currency imo

JoeSchmoe  Dave define high

Spectra  didnt know he thinks they are not on a program rate never knew that!

Dave  JoeSchmoe hehe

JoeSchmoe  Dave who wouldn't take 10 cents

future  yep ave read he thinks iraq is actually to high and they will devalue lol

Spectra  Well i think they are on a sanctioned rate for sure!

future  i mean come on

future  of course they are

JoeSchmoe  Spectra isn't that programmed?

Dave  a dime thats 1000 % ROI

Dave  not bad....

JoeSchmoe  Dave is that high?

future  dave iraq needs to de dollarize

future  it needs to be = or above the dollar imo

JoeSchmoe  that would be a 10000%roi wouldn't it?

Dave  JoeSchmoe define greed

future  their is no incentive for the citizens to go off the dollar

JoeSchmoe  Dave lol

JoeSchmoe  Dave .10 would be far from green where we are concerned

Dave  JoeSchmoe yes 1000% good roi....

future  if the value is not raised and pruchasing power is given

JoeSchmoe  is there any country where the dollar is not accepted?

Dave  Dave bax would need to purchase 17 semis

future  oe but they are not usin their dinar most of the time

future  it has little to no value

Dave  JoeSchmoe usd works everywhere i have been....

future  they use the dollar

JoeSchmoe  Dave so why would they get rid of the dollar?

future  iraq wants their citizens to use their national curency

JoeSchmoe  wouldnt most countries want that?

Dave  JoeSchmoe banking rules cant issue 2 currencies at the sane time

future  of coruse but it has to have value lmao

future  and purchhasing power

future  just remember joe they havent even came out with fils or lower denoms yet

JoeSchmoe  i guess what i am getting at is, you say iraq wants to get rid of the dollar, and dedollarize. As long as it is there, raising the value won't be as big of an issue as yuo say to get them to stop using it

JoeSchmoe  future yes i know

Dave  JoeSchmoe they need too...imf no mcps

future  Joe that is a requiement by the imf

future  they cant suck on the teet of the dollar forever

JoeSchmoe  as long as the dollar is being used in all countries, then does no other country hvae 'no mcps;?

JoeSchmoe  no mcps requirement by imf

future  well joe sorry but if u believe that then you might as well sell lol

future  nothing i can say or do for ya

JoeSchmoe  i am asking, not believeing

JoeSchmoe  does all other countries have that same requirement, or only iraq

future  most countries use their national currency

future  yes

future  kuwait, saudi arabia, jordan etc

JoeSchmoe  but still use usd. but with no mcp requirment....how is that so

future  they all deal in their own currency

JoeSchmoe  no usd at all?

future  and convert if need be abroad

Dave  and auctions.....

future  but they are also not a on a prgram rate

JoeSchmoe  i am only going on what has been said about iraq needing to dedollarize and get off the dollar, nothing else

future  the iraqi dinar is undervalued but some wil say its not to justify their belief

Dave  JoeSchmoe they have little to no faith yet in banking their but seems to be improving

JoeSchmoe  Dave all i know is, by recent articles, we should see answers to important questions soon

future  @dave very true te citizens play a huge role in monetary reform

Dave  called fractional indexing

future  the iraqis are living in old ages

future  they need to accept new tech and electronic banking

Dave  wonder how mant atms.....

Dave  many

JoeSchmoe  I am one of the dumbest people in this thing...my ADD don't help me too much either.... So I rely on asking stupid quetions all the time. Dinar For Dummies is the encyclopedia brittanica to me, I need Dinar For Retards.

Spectra  Have any of you actually looked into where the phrase(PROGRAM RATE CAME FROM)?

Spectra  ((( where is it written ....)))

future  its a rate imposed by the imf due to war torn countries

Dave  JoeSchmoe many here got your back

future  is it not?

Spectra  I SAID PROGRAM RATE

JoeSchmoe  and I swear...this thing makes me dumber by the day!

JoeSchmoe  Dave ty

Spectra  Show me where it says PROGRAM RATE!

future  that is slang spectra used

JoeSchmoe  I can act and talk like I KNOW alot, which is what I see many do...

future  wouldnt take it literal

Spectra  Does any one have any documents with this wording?????

future  st as is an RV

future  or lop

JoeSchmoe  future isn't LOP just slang for redenomination?

Spectra  well unless you can show me it ill not use the slag!

JoeSchmoe  slang created by dinarians what's more

Spectra  slang lol

future  slang yep

Spectra  exactly

future  so whats the issue?

future  so is rv

future  so is lop

Spectra  Words mean everything

JoeSchmoe  and I always felt we wanted a redenomination...LD's

Spectra  i am saying call it what want but?

Dave  we redenom all the time....

JoeSchmoe  what is the lates

JoeSchmoe  t

Spectra  too me PROGRAM RATE needs too be in print!

Spectra  im careful in my wording

Spectra  not too mislead

LeLefuture   I'm with you with $1+

JoeSchmoe  I have seen the words program rate in an article before. don't know where though

Spectra  They lost their value because of the war!

Spectra  That much we all know

future  yes

future  so the imf imposes an artiffical fixedd exchangedd rate

JoeSchmoe  Spectra didn't bush put sanctions on the currency to keep them from buying WMD?

future  due to loss off economics

future  from war

future  also sanctions hurt iraq yes

Dave  future ......missed Sam......

JoeSchmoe  my head spinning, need to eat. bbl

eman4u55  :Yawn

xyz  :popcorn

xyz  :popcorn

Sam I Am  Spectra The dinar's value tanked in the 80s due to hyperinflation


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Tebow  Baxter he couldn't hang on to his dinars, his blog was a flop, he's looking for some sort of acceptance

Sam I Am  Tebow my blog had 1500 views per day in December 2013. By far the most popular dinar debunk site

Sam I Am  Hardly a flop. The whole dinar community was talking about it.

Sam I Am  So popular in fact that Dinar Corp threatened a defamation suit to shut me up

Sam I Am  You can still find my posts copied and pasted all over the place

Sam I Am  Adam Montana lost 75% of his traffic after I exposed him as a fraud

Sam I Am  I had media outlets interview me

Sam I Am  I even got a back link from. Forbes Magazine

Sam I Am  And if I wanted acceptance I'd just blow sunshine up your collective butts, but the truth is more important to me than popularity