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RayRat/Tony Call Notes 3/29/18

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Post by Ssmith on Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:22 am

(Notes by Adept1)

TNT Call notes 30-March-2018

Replay: 641.715.0623, PIN CODE 409029#


RayRen: Good afternoon, TNT super-fantastic family! This is Fantabulous Friday, March 30, 2018, with yours truly RayRat98 here.

Tony: Gooood morning, TNT! What’s going on? I have known Ray for a long time. When he was in high school and college, he never wanted to get a job where he would get dirty. He became a DJ, and I think he is still a DJ, so anything might happen here!

RayRen: Here are the updates from yesterday:

6:15 AM PDT

Iraq having press conference saying that the president has decided for the good of the citizens to send the 2018 budget to the gazette for official publication.

Iraq’s Rashid Bank is on Iraqi TV broadcasting the new MasterCards that citizens have can be used “worldwide” while indicating how the features of the new cards enable them to pay bills and use it for other electronic applications and processes.

Iraqi TV showing officials from Iraq and Saudi Arabia cutting the ribbon to a new exchange bank located in Baghdad and open for trade.


Iraqi newspaper issues a special issue of the Law of the General Budget. The President of the Republic sent the budget law to the Ministry of Justice for publication in the Official Gazette. Once the budget is published, it has become valid and ratified.

The draft Public Budget Law for 2018 will be published in the Iraqi official newspaper on Sunday and will be in force.

Scrolling on Iraqi TV screens at the bottom: Special Edition of the Budget Law is being processed for Gazette publication.

Let’s see where we are today.

Tony: That is all information we wanted to hear. The President agreed to sign this yesterday, and to take up his complaints with the courts afterwards. This was a special edition that they were publishing on Sunday. So the Budget should be published with a new rate on Sunday. A friend in England said that the rate changed on his card yesterday morning. WE know they don’t hit every card at the same time or even on the same day. It can take 3-4 days for this rate to get to the street level. But we’re looking good, with all these announcements coming out one after the other. Today, no one is talking about the Budget, the cards, or the lower denominations – because they have come to agreement and a date/time.

In the US, the banks have had several meeting, and we haven’t heard anything out of those meetings last Wednesday. We hear after every meeting usually! I don’t know how they are keeping the lid on this, but no one is saying anything about those meetings. I like that! Our guy in Iraq knows the new rate but is not telling me. Even the protestors are not talking about monetary reform – they are all quiet. The banks are quiet here, and we are ready to go. The call and exchange centers all know what they’re doing – we don’t know. The last people we got information from lately is a teller and a personal banker, who told us about the blind rate, which is a code telling us when this will happen.

They are doing a special edition to the Gazette on Sunday – don’t know why they didn’t do it on Saturday, in the regular Gazette – unless they didn’t want people to see the rate on Saturday. They are excited about what they’re doing, saying this is their time to shine.

We haven’t heard anything more about the Zim, we don’t have the 800 numbers, and we haven’t seen the NDA yet, but everyone is ready to go. Our contact in the committees is now working on something else – trade deals with China.

BE ready so you don’t have to GET ready. I had meetings myself, and people kept asking “What are you going to do?” I laid out exactly what I would be doing, day by day. I’ve been planning this for ten years, and it is ready to go! Judge's email/phone:  ksd_murguia_chambers@ksd.uscourts.gov  913-735-2340  DA's email/phone:  Scott.Rask@usdoj.gov   913-551-6730  When I get that call to go to the bank, I won’t be jumping up and down because I know what I’m going to do. I have a plan, the questions are written down; you do that when you are calm and collected. Do you know what you are going to do? The window is closing right now.

Questions from the TNT forum

Q: We have heard that Warka bank is selling their bank stock for 1 dinar per share. How do we over here go about buying Warka bank stock?
A: Get yourself an agent and ask how that is done.

Q: The amount of walkaway cash was $7,500….and for a while someone said it was per currency. Is that still valid?
A: Normally the maximum you can take out in cash is 10,000, but because more people are asking, it was reduced to $7,000 at your exchange appointment only.
RR: You have to understand that we can’t tell you every single thing we’ve heard or know. Instead of telling you some things, I decided to prepare you for it, so that you can respond accordingly. So I will stand behind the advice I gave you all: exchange, go home with the same amount you walked in with. Rest, relax, release. Anything needed to be done on exchange day could as easily be done the next day or the day afternoon. You need to adjust to the change. That’s my intention, anyway: I am exchanging and going home. I know many think they will handle this without issues, but this is about a much larger amount. You will leap from nothing much to hundreds of thousands, or millions, all in one day, and that will be shock if it’s never happened to you before. Tony: It’s the truth, a hundred thousand is not really much money. Some people can spend that in two hours. Then what will you take to the casino??

Q: Once the Budget is published and ratified in the Gazette, is that the Go for us to start exchanging? If so, is it Tuesday, or before?
A: That’s what we are looking for – that to be the go, with a live rate, and for us to exchange. I don’t know if they will keep it in the house for a few days, but I don’t think so. As soon as they change the rates, it should be automatic for us. What they are saying to us is that it’s a go on Sunday.

Q: I am on a POD for my boys, I receive a copy of their monthly bank statement. When we do our exchange and add our PODs to the account, with this being at a higher level, will the ones we list as PODs receive a copy of these account statements? I do not want my children to know what I have at this time.
A: I don’t see why you get copies just for being a POD (payable on death beneficiary). Call your bank and ask about that. I don’t understand how that would happen – I’ve never heard of that.

Q: I have a business, I want to put my business in a trust. What kind of trust would you suggest. since it will be separate from myself personal trust? If I have more then one business, do I need several trusts or just one under one umbrella?
A: you have to look at the whole purpose of trusts. It’s to separate liability. If the one trust own both businesses, liability could leak from one to the other. Separate trusts might be better. I like a complex trust, myself, but you should look over the options and choose the best for your circumstances.

Q: With the Dong coming out at .47, what in your opinion would be a fair spread for exchange? A nickel? .03?
Tony: Walking up to the teller, it is what it is. If you are talking to a private banker or wealth manager, everything you try to negotiate is based on how much you have. So that could change for every person. I am not arguing over pennies; I know the bank guy will get paid no matter what. The spread should be the same as for the person at the teller. Go look at the spread now, and if they try to increase it, you will know. If the spread is the same, that’s fair. If you have enough to negotiate, make that about the rate, not the spread. You won’t have time to negotiate all the piddling details. I have a plan for my money to make money, so that instead of spending y money in 2-3 days, I will have money forever.

Q: I have heard Tony say that if we have 1 million or less we go to the teller. A: Is that 1 million dinar or is that 1 million in US dollars after the exchange?
A: That is one million US DOLLARS, not one million in currencies.
Q2: Can we still take just one note into exchange at the teller so we can wait and see if the rates go? Tony: You always have that option.
RR: Why would you do that? Yes, you can, but does it make sense to do that? Why would I take a note in when I know the rate is going to increase? Some will have a real-life situation that really needs money right now. Instead of taking a note in and killing your purchasing power, use someone else’s money, or use your currency as collateral to get a small loan. We need to be thinking smart, and that is smarter than taking in a note just because you have one available.

Q: Have prices changed in Iraq?
A: Haven’t talked to anyone about that, no updates.

Q: Fils?
A: The Budget will become effective on 1. April, retroactive to 1. January. Sure, they could issue the lower denominations and fils before then because it is already law, it just hasn’t been published. So they might bring them out for people to use on Sunday morning; we’ll see.

Q: Would you review how we will be asked to calculate our currency? Count straight Dinars, Dong, etc., or do we have to wait to get the rates for each currency and calculate the totals?
Tony: We’ll have to have some kind of rate to do those calculations. On the 800 numbers, they will ask what you have in currencies. When you go up to the teller, they may tell you that they can exchange up to one million dollars. We will post the rates on the site, and may well have a call with rates.

Live questions

909 caller: Any word on the dong?

Tony: The only word I’ve heard is still 47 cents.

240 caller: Your Las Vegas junket – is that just for members of TNT? Or newbies?

Tony: When I posted it before, something like 8,000 people signed up. I will redo the registrations, and it will be open to anyone who listens to the call.

RayRen: The banking seminars are also open to everyone who listens.

972 caller: What type of trust would be good for a business?

RayRen: It depends on the type of trust that you like and that works with your plan. The complex trust gives the trustees complete control; some trusts do not. Any business can be a trust; you need to compare trusts with an LLC and see which you prefer.

Caller: Also, if you need money and you know the dinar is going to go up, how about exchanging one of the other currencies?

RayRen: We were not taught about how to handle money in schools, although we were taught arithmetic. Some learned later, through experience or family teaching. Two people might think completely differently about money: that haves think one way and the have-nots thinking differently. We are taught differently by our families and cultures. We will be have-nots until we change over and bring up our children to be have thinkers. Some have-nots will go for instant gratification, and that works against us in the long run.

Tony: Read the ‘Rich Dad, Poor Dad’ books for more on changing your mindset.

281 caller: In case we get the green light between now and Sunday, I assume you will post that list of banks that are already handling dinar?

RayRen: Yes, the minute we have a green light, you will get that banking information, whether we have the 800 numbers or not. Those 800 numbers are a convenience, nothing more. You might get a better deal with one of the smaller banks. We will post all that in the public section of the forum, so non-members can also read them.

Tony: Back in the old administration I was told I would have to sign a 44-page NDA blocking me from going on television or radio shows, writing books or films, or even doing the four events. They don’t want me to have that connection with you all, because it would be too much influence on this group. For example, if I had a call with you all saying X company is about to go public, and then thousands of people buy the stock and the price shoots up. That’s the kind of influence they don’t want anyone to have. Also, they don’t want me to tell all the secrets behind this, and there are plenty of those. So they wanted to shut down the site as well, but that doesn’t mean I couldn’t go to someone else’s event. However, I don’t have the NDA, so who knows?!

702 caller: If this is published on Sunday, when do you expect to go to the bank?

Tony: I think we could go to the bank on Sunday! If it happens tonight, to surprise everyone, then they will want everyone to go to the bank as quickly as possible. I know it’s Easter, but they were prepared to stay open every other holiday from 7am and 11pm.

Caller: Who will give us the rates for all the currencies?

Tony: All seven currencies will go at the same time. As for dong, we have been told 47 cents for years now. We are told there is no longer a contract rate for the dong. If they delay any of those other currencies, those who would be millionaires will become billionaires instead. I know they know that, so it makes sense for them to let them all go at the same time; otherwise we will all be ridiculously rich.

818 caller: Will the rupiah go up in value as well?

RayRen: Yes, possibly on Forex. All of them could go up. After you do this, rates on Forex can change by pennies and you can make millions of dollars, if you know what you’re doing. So watch Forex…

281 caller: Are there still three levels of exchange? [my computer crashed, may not have got the question right]

Tony: Yes, you go to the teller if you have less than one million in US dollars after exchange. From one to ten million, you go to the teller to get a wealth manager; over ten million, you have to get an appointment with a wealth manager. Those amounts apply to all the currencies added together. If you take the contract rate on the dinar, and sign the NDA, that NDA then applies to all the currencies.

Caller: What’s different now than previously? How is it Maliki is still there??

Tony: Iraq is in agreement with the IMF and World Bank. They have published their Budget in the first quarter, as they said they would. Kurdistan and Baghdad are now together, and being transparent. Yes, there are political differences, including Maliki, but every country has those. I think they will make Maliki powerless, but that won’t happen before the elections because that would cause unrest in Iraq. Is this guaranteed to happen on Sunday? I can’t guarantee that, but it looks more positive than it has ever looked in the last ten years. So yes, I think this is a different situation. All the leaders of Iraq have been put in place by the US, so I think Abadi will win the election and he will do what we need them to do. If Maliki were to get in, he’d go running to Iran, so we don’t want Maliki. I do think Abadi is going to be re-elected, and he has to run against someone. Maliki’s old party has broken up, and says it won’t support him. Hopefully by that time, we won’t care!

725 caller: I’m in Nevada. My sister lives with someone, in a legal partnership; will the partner need to sign the NDA?

Tony: Tell them to ask the bank.

702 caller: Is there any way to access the training calls? I’m not a TNT member.

RayRen: No, but we’ll post something afterwards.

OH caller: Can you talk about any limits on the dong?

RayRen: I haven’t heard any limits on the dong per se; at one point, banks said there might be a limit on how much they can exchange per day, but those have been raised.

Closing Statement

Tony: Thanks to everyone who sent me birthday greetings. I hope on Monday morning to have my birthday present from Iraq. There are no negatives in Iraq today –it’s quiet, no one is fighting, nothing but good news in the articles. I’m looking forward to it. If for some reason it doesn’t come out, it will do soon. Happy Easter to all of you!

RayRen: Hope this pops over the weekend. You don’t have to rush unless you are going for contract rates. You have the power; you can decide when to exchange, and at what institution. You don’t have to worry about losing or missing something here. When the value changes, that’s it.

RayRen played I Believe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DYrqOUKLtA

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Post by Tinef on Sat Mar 31, 2018 9:57 am

Dear, Scott.Rask@usdoj.gov
Here's what any 3rd grader or an idiot w/a computer can google on Warka Bank ..
Here's what TNT provided as advice .. 
Questions from the TNT "forum" , 
"Q: We have heard that Warka bank is selling their bank stock for 1 dinar per share. How do we over here go about buying Warka bank stock?
A: Get yourself an agent and ask how that is done."
Hmm, sounds smart & noncommittal  ..
However, this sums up their level of knowledge about the fiscal instability & current social-economic climate inside the GOI & CBI, and how this relates to their fairytale/ false narrative/ fraud for profit. Still your office continues to allow TNT to pass themselves off as experts in this field .. 
Dinarland .. this April Fool's Day will mark another mile stone for most of you monitoring & participating in this fake news/insider get-rich scam ..
Since 2011 the same hopium sound bites, rum-tel & blatant lies have been promoted for profit by web hosts and "currency experts" or con men alike. (In TNT's case , their business model is under the direction of a recently paroled felon).
Don't you think it's a little weird that Non ME experts, unlicensed currency marketers , men & woman who've never step foot in the ME have magical contacts ready to share these salacious insights, at the same time Wall Street currency traders, Hedge Funds, Global economists & main stream media have remained silent, while life inside Iraq is an open book of instability, corruption & misery.
You’ve been lied to so many times, there isn't one new twist you haven't heard a dozen of times before. Most of you can accurately predict and/or write the next Guru post by memory because you've heard the same lies over & over like a broken record.  
Evidence to date? Let's see one of those Wells Fargo back screens.
Please ask if anyone can share a mythical NDA, or receipt of an SKR, and the pink unicorn of them all the Q-Card with the new rate. 
We've seen the "don't touch bank memo's", and we know there's no accountability for false promises/ lies (thanks to #DOJ.gov #IRS.gov #FBI.gov #SEC.gov #FTC.gov ). As the result of any recent non-legal action, the remaining con men have become desensitized to shame, guilt or remorse.
There's another good reason why this con has survived this long and why Guru's are like a cockroach that can't be killed.
It's because the web hosts continue to provide criminals w/a communications platform, while the hosts knowingly re-post their fiction. Desperate & greedy people simply can't stop themselves from visiting, clicking & donating.
Do yourself a favor tomorrow / this April Fool’s Day .. stop, don't click , don listen, don't support these sites and don't donate . Break the addiction ..
Try this for the next 30 days. After 30 days, let's see who/what Guru, News Hound, Mod  or Shill drops out.. or better yet what web host gets the undivided attention of the #USDOJ.gov / Scott.Rask@usdoj.gov

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Post by Kevind53 on Sat Mar 31, 2018 5:04 pm

Phony wrote:I have known Ray for a long time. When he was in high school and college, he never wanted to get a job

Apparently neither one of you did, which explains a lot .... scamming and cheating people is a good way to keep those old hands clean. Worse case, you get caught you get sent to some country club institution and live on the government dole for a few months .... pretty good racket if you don't have a conscience.

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