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Post by dinardiva on Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:15 pm

[Nighthk11] Good Day DV- Hope all are well and in good spirits there seems to be a lot being discussed concerning the RV- Everything is fine and progress is being made although not reported I have no stunning info at this time

[wings] do you still think eom
[Nighthk11] I believe as Chloe has stated that Erbil has been activated and they will access the results in two weeks
[chloe] THANKS FOR THAT CLARIFICATION ACCESS THE PROGRESS
[Nighthk11] Barzani has openly broke ranks with Maliki who has been summoned to the presence of the UNSC and Sec Gen
[DP1] Nighthk11 I mean is it possible Iraq is doing things we don’t know that may progress it?
[Nighthk11] Yes DP1- They are and have been doing things that will impact the Rv and allow it to proceed I believe we will see the RV this month but not until after the 15th of the month Reason is the Todd-Frank Bill being activated on 15 Jul which will allow the gov’t to tax more on currency exchanges
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[wings] will the tariff law go into the effect on the 15
[Nighthk11] As Chloe has stated the two RV-Budget is TIED TOGETHER
[wings] so this is not capital gains after the 15
[Nighthk11] The other issues were the banks being updated to allow for international transfers- This is being reported as DONE Capital Gains of 15% remain- Geitner has stated another 5% which is NOT CONNECTED to capital gains- But is being levied to support DEBT REDUCTION
[wings] so 20 for long term
Nighthk11] In Iraq- IMO the final issue of Erbil is activation of Allawi’s council-and some 19 points signed and promised by Maliki which did not happen Yes wings- that is my understanding from what was said
[lgtennis] NIGHT IF I MAY I HAVE HEARD THE STAMP ON EBRIL WILL BE DONE ON TUES WITH OR WITHOUT MALIKI THERE
[wings] have you heard anything on this flat tax or cashing in with the ust
[Nighthk11] By Barzani coming out publicly stating a break with Maliki- This effectively diminishes his power base and in turn indicates that they will proceed with or without him
[lgtennis] UR THOUGHTS ON THAT THANKS SO MUCH!!!
[chloe] TY NIGHT GOOD ARTICLE ON THAT IN FORUM
[Nighthk11] Wings- I know we will pay 15% cap Gains and possibly be taxed another 5%- beyond that all I have on UST-IRS is what other member sites have printed- It is highly plausible
[Cool] chloe can you give us the link I will add it into this chat
[chloe] viewtopic.php?f=14&t=33598
[Nighthk11] I can tell you folks again- The base rate of the dinar is $3.00- expect more than that upon RV
[wings] that is very good news thank you night
[lgtennis] NIGHT CAN YOU SPEAK OF EBRIL BEING STAMPED ON TUES IN PARLIAMENT
[Nighthk11] From my perspective- the door on RV is closing very fast- I expect this to be done before 02 Aug
[cosiangel] is there new legislation limiting private people like us from buying gold and silver now?
[wings] if this goes to there holiday then we are looking into sept or oct before done correct
[Nighthk11] Cosi- I have heard that- But do not know for sure
[cosiangel] alright thank you
[chloe] THERE WAS ARTICLES OUT ABOUT FRANK DODD BEING DELAYED BY POLITICANS; HOWEVER FDIC USED REGULATORY POWER TO PUT IT INTO AFFECT.
[Nighthk11] Not necessarily wings- we have to remember the Iraqi street- IMO they will not wait due to announcements by Shabibi Saleh- and other members of their gov’t
[chloe] NIGHT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE MAYBE IRAQ IS AHEAD OF US NOW ON THE RV CURVE.*Laugh out Loud*
[Nighthk11] Correct Chloe and when does it take effect- Midnight 15 July 11 same timeframe as Iraq’s Tariff Laws
[wings] so the budget is hoping for this rv as much as we are
[Nighthk11] Yes Chloe- we only know what they want us to know and a masterful job has been done to hide the real truth of what they have accomplished
[DP1] Nighthk11 I have heard that Erbil is “scheduled” for Tues 12… not that it was a definite absolute. Is there a chance it will be delayed in your opinion? Does it matter? will tariffs still happen 15 regardless?
[chloe] MALIKI NO LONGER HAS THE VOTES HENCE HIS POWER BASE IS GONE.
[Nighthk11] Yes wings- IMO why else would they rush a bill thru that should have become law on 1 Jan 2012 Yes DP1- Parliament must vote the last item on Erbil which is the Allawi council- it’s inception to become active must be ratified by the parliament
[wings] are you hearing anything on the banks pining
[Nighthk11] As I understand the article- they will vote on tues
[lgtennis] YES AND WITH OR WITHOUT MALIKI THERE AS WELL
[Nighthk11] wings- what I believe is that the major four banks have the rate – the word is they are waiting on Tres to give the go- IMO treus was waiting on Dodd-Frank Yes LG- I think Barzani made it quite clear that Maliki is no longer driving the train
[chloe] YES THE USA DEBT/BUDGET IS TIED TO IRAQ. TY
[lgtennis] THERE WE GO GREAT THANKS
[wings] so we are looking at anytime for the rv but more likely after the 15 so they can get extra money from us
[Nighthk11] It has taken a very long time for these people to act in a decisive way- but in the final analysis, The burdon to act has always been on them- not US or anyone else- this is their country and their future That is what I believe wings- If not then it would be before
chloe] GLAD TO SEE A REASONABLE MAN WITH SOME POWER OVER MALIKI.
[wings] ty
[chloe] MALIKI’S TIES TO IRAN WORRY ME.
[wings] if the rate is 3 plus then they can have the extra 5 % as long as they do it soon
[Nighthk11] Chloe- I simply believe they have seen the light and had to decide if they wanted to continue the misery or move on with a great future
[chloe] TY NIGHT MY VIEW TOO
[wings] so maliki will be out
[Nighthk11] Not necessarily wings- If he is allowed to remain which I think he will- his power base is GONE
[lgtennis] ESP WHEN EBRIL IS IMPLEMENTED TOO TRUE
[fritzidinar] IMO..I ran had 2 voices in Iraq, Maliki and Sadr.
[Nighthk11] Erbil is about power sharing- not removing all of Maliki’s power- but placing a system of checks and balances on his ability to act with impunity and bypass parliament
[fritzidinar] and now with Maliki’s diminishing power, so goes Sadri. Nighthk11 that’s right,I think Allawi is part of those checks and balances
[Nighthk11] I would like to say that we are nearing the very end of this long ride- Many have given their views and opinions- some have been right- others, myself included have been wrong- but all advice-opinions- should and must be respected I have always said watch what they do- not what they say
[chloe] TY NIGHT ALWAYS LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR ANALYSIS AND WELL FOUNDED VIEWS
[lgtennis] NIGHT AGREED THANKS
[Nighthk11] The current perspective is that we can see we are close to the end of this mess- please continue to respect and support each other for this brings harmony and positive energy
[Cool] so the Erbil is done to keep maliki from becoming another sadam?? Dictator is that right , am I understanding it correct
[Nighthk11] That is a part of it cool- It was however instituted to give all the sects in Iraq representation in their gov’t
[fritzidinar] yes
[Nighthk11] so that power is not relegated to one person or party
[Cool] okay, so that makes sense that they would not rv and give him access to all that money until Erbil is done ty
[Nighthk11] actually he is NOT in control of the money CBI is and they have autonomy
[Cool] it would make it easier to steal money if no one was watching him though
[lgtennis] NIGHT SO THIS WEEK IT STILL VERY POSSIBLE WITH EBRIL BEING STAMPED ON TUES? THANKS
[Nighthk11] Believe me Cool after Barzani’s public statement- I think truly if Maliki wishes to survive he better get on the bus
[cosiangel] there was like $6 billion dollars missing though–was there not? Did that money ever get recovered?
[Nighthk11] Yes LG- I think that is what Talabani was speaking on after the last meeting
[lgtennis] OK GREAT EXACTLY MY THOUGHTS THANKS
[chloe] YES LG PER ARTICLE THEIR PROGRESS TO BE ACCESSED IN TWO WEEKS
[lgtennis] GOTCHA THANKS CHLOE
[Nighthk11] Cosi- they tracked the money to contractors and Iraqi gov’t- you take your pick on who stole what and how much- start with Halliburton (Cheney)
[lgtennis] GOTCHA THANKS CHLOE
[chloe] JMO MORE PRESSURE ON MALIKI NOT TO CAUSE TROUBLE
[lgtennis] AND NOW THEY WILL DO IT WITH IT WITHOUT HIM THERE
[Nighthk11] Correct Chloe- he met in private with moon- then went directly to meet with full UNSC- I do NOT think it was good
[cosiangel] thank you Night Yes it can be anyone
[chloe] TY NIGHT
[Nighthk11] I am only guessing- but I think he got read straight from the horses mouth
[wings] not only us but the whole world waiting on them night correct
[lgtennis] U WOULD HAVE TO THINK SO YEPPPP
[Nighthk11] Do they have the power to get rid of him? YES-YES-YES
[wings] for the rv i mean
[Nighthk11] That is correct wings- hence Hillary Clintons call- COMPLY WITH ALL PROVISIONS OF CHAP 7- rv-rv-rv
[lgtennis] THANKS NIGHT WONDERFUL
[Clay] Nighthk11 so will we RV b4 Ramadan
[Nighthk11] so at this point with the “New Revelations” that have come out I can see where we have no worries- just waiting for them to release the rate to us little folks I think so clay- because they cannot afford for their people to have to wait any longer and if Erbil is activated- there is NO REASON
[wings] night do you think the higher ups have cashed in yet like some have said
[Nighthk11] Yes I do wings- Priority has been given to first Nations who forgave debt- next would be those companies who have or are prepared to invest billions on reconstruction- last will be us little folks Had they not been paid on 30 June- we would have heard the complaints
wings] so then the rv has been active just not to us little people
[Nighthk11] That is my belief- could they have done this YES
[DP1] Nighthk11 regarding “if Erbil is activated- there is NO REASON” do you mean that the Erbil is sort of what has held up things and that once it is done, then they have no other reason to hold it up? once the Erbil is done, then no reason to hold up rv is what I mean.
[Nighthk11] I believe when Shabibi gave his info about the 7-10 days, many took that for overall the world- but I think he was sending a message to the higher-ups
[Clay] Nighthk11 but y isn’t US seeing it we need it badly be4 Aug 2nd
[wings] ok I have been told by someone with good info that some have cashed in now i truly believe him
[Nighthk11] DP-1, from my perspective it was part of the puzzle to release all sanctions under chap 7- a fully seated and functional gov’t in place
Clay] and if not and we default it will b catastrophic to the world’s economy
Nighthk11] Clay US is seeing it- Chck Frank-Dodd Bill on taxes- they are well aware check We will NOT default
[lgtennis] NIGHT NEVER THOUGHT WE WOULD DEFAULT OBAMA CANT BE THAT STUPID CAN HE
[Nighthk11] Wings- that is very plausible- look at how many members of congress have visited Iraq in the past two months- Fact Finding Missions?- get real- they used that as an excuse to get dinars
[wings] no but he will take credit for this
[sslate] It would be utter stupidity for the US to default on its budget when we are supposedly trying so hard to cause Iraq to become a democratic gov’t. Something wrong with that picture.
[DP1] Nighthk11 thank you. So basically anyone saying that Erbil has not much or nothing to do with rv would be incorrect in saying so? Just in your opinion of course? or did i read you wrong in saying that?
[lgtennis] THE PROB IS 2 FOLD IMO OBAMA AND IRAQ
[Nighthk11] The Erbil agreement authoried by Barzani was approved by the whole UNSC-Sec Gen- Prez-VP-Sec of state and many nations comprising WB-IMF-WTO- I would say it is an integral part of the whole picture
[DP1] Nighthk11 thanks so very much
[Clay] Nighthk11 Heard in here this morning is pulling away from M is that true pulling support
[Nighthk11] It is the foundation of the New Iraqi Government
[topkick] And was signed off on by Maliki, BUT he never implemented it…..correct
[Nighthk11] That is correct which is why Barzani has publicly broken ranks with his support- more votes gone
[lgtennis] THERE WE GO AGAIN THANKS NIGHT
[Clay] Nighthk11 so if M wants to remain in power why is still playing
[lgtennis] OBAMA AND IRAQ ARE THE BIG PROB HERE MORE OBAMA NOW IMO
[chloe] THANKS LG WELL SAID AND SUPPORTS WHAT NIGHT HAS KINDLY SHARED
[lgtennis] SURE DOES CHLOEEE
[Noble 1] night with all the taxes we will pay after rv wouldn’t it be better for the US to get the highest rv possible?
[Nighthk11] At present- I don’t think it is Obama now- He needs this done asap to get the economy- debt in a manageable level or he will have a problem trying to get re-elected
[lgtennis] WELL I HOPE U ARE RIGHT NIGHT
[DP1] Nighthk11 Thanks again
[Nighthk11] Maliki has stalled long enough- I think what brought Barzani out is the shelling by Iran of Kurdish areas- perceived to be influenced by Maliki
[chloe] THANKS NIGHT JUST A SLIGHT DELAY TO IMPLEMENT MORE TAXES UNDER FRANK/DODD AND FDIC
[Nighthk11] Correct Chloe- they need money NOW
[chloe] MY VIEW TOO TY
[SSGTMM521] What would delay this into going till after Ramadan, and if it did how will this effect the U.S.
[Nighthk11] also Maliki’s failure some 5 months after this agreement to implement any of the 19 points he promised the Kurds
[lgtennis] NIGHT THAT’S TRUE TOO THANKS VERY VITAL
[chloe] YES MALIKI FOUGHT ERBIL TO KEEP POWER BUT THE BLOCS HAVE OVERULED HIM NOW
[Nighthk11] SSG-M- at this point, I just don’t see that- both nations need this to happen NOW
[lgtennis] ABOUT TIME THAT HAPPEND
[SSGTMM521] I agree but you know.
[lgtennis] AND AS PEEPAW STATED THE KURDS ARE THE KEY
[Nighthk11] If you see what they have been meeting about and what they are doing on both ends- it spells close the deal asap
[lgtennis] WHICH HE ALLUDED TO AGAIN YESTERDAY AND ALLUDED TO THE VOTE ON TUES
[chloe] PEEPAW IS A TREASURE LG
[lgtennis] SURE IS THANKS SO MUCH PEEPAW NGIHT IT SURE DOES
[Nighthk11] If you can understand that the Kurds are the true power here- the Maliki is done
[chloe] TRUE NIGHT
[SSGTMM521] Well seems Tuesday will be the key to all our questions.
[lgtennis] THEY ARE THE POWER
[wings] night ty for coming in and giving this chat
[Nighthk11] I think they will most likely let him finish his term- then be gone
[lgtennis] ME TOO NIGHT OVER AND DONE WITH
[DP1] Nighthk11 thanks for all the help to understand what’s going on.
[wings] so if they act on the Erbil on tue will we wait till the end of the week for the rv
[chloe] GOOD POINT WINGS
[topkick] that’s the 64K question wings
[masterkim] Is there anything you can see on the horizon that would keep Parliament from acting on Erbil on Tuesday?
[Nighthk11] Folks do not be dismayed- upset- downhearted- everything from their actions indicate a willingness on Iraq’s side to move forward- on the US side get the deficit and economy under control- so it is looking RV at a very good rate and very possibly this month
[Cool] Thank God
[chloe] GOOD QUESTION MK TY
[Nighthk11] Not Really MK- with Barzani coming out, it indicates Erbil will be fully activated and parliament will vote on that tues- rv could very well be next week
[lgtennis] YES THANKS SO MUCN NIGHT EXCELLENT WHICH AGAIN KURDS HAVE THE POWER HERE
[masterkim] Nighthk11 ty, we have had so many surprises….just curious.
[wings] do you think they will take and chance and hold this till after the 15 i am talking the us since Iraq cant be trusted I wouldn’t want us to miss the chance and rv just cause they want 5 % MORE OF ARE MONEY SOUNDS KINDA RISKY
[DP1] Nighthk11 That is good, it is just similar to what a few others have been saying. IMO when the same thing is said by more than one person, it seems a little more real to me. So I am very hopeful. Thanks.
[Nighthk11] I really hope some of this helps because I know much has been said and
expectations have been dashed over and over- But please understand that none of us have been correct all the time-respect- support- show your love- it’s almost over- stay well and stay safe love to all DV
[lgtennis] KURDS WILL MAKE SURE THIS GETS DONE
[Nighthk11] BBL
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Post by papajack on Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:44 pm

Changing the rules midstream is unethical, immoral, and unconstitutional, it's our money and putting any of it in the hands of Obama and the demoncrats to be used to continue their destruction of America is a hard pill to swallow. These are evil days we live in.

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Post by Gmansaid on Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:49 pm

@papajack wrote:Changing the rules midstream is unethical, immoral, and unconstitutional, it's our money and putting any of it in the hands of Obama and the demoncrats to be used to continue their destruction of America is a hard pill to swallow. These are evil days we live in.

In total agreement, papajack! You can always tell when a lie is coming from them...their lips are moving.

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