Got some serious news to listen to.....

So, recently I've been watching the boards and hearing all the talking, bashing, ranting, and so on a so forth. I come on to the site to seek some info and intel, whether it be true or not. I see many on here who criticize, bash and get mad. It's really sad to see and honestly quite a shame.

I know everyone is getting tired of all this "It's going to RV soon, everything is in line, the window is open, RV anytime now and etc..." To be quite frank, I'm sick of it all too. The only difference is I don't hold emotion to it. It's an INVESTMENT! It's not a "Saving Grace, Miracle, or any other Fairy Tale!" Okie and all the others come on here with Intel, whether it be right or wrong, but still come on here knowing for sure that they will get bashed on, yelled at, and questioned. I'm honestly surprised that they haven't just abandoned us....seriously! I feel bad for them, they do homework and I'm sure spend hours looking for the right answers.

As you may have noticed, they do NOT.... and let me say this again. They DO NOT JUMP THE GUN anymore! They clearly say it's possible, and this is based off current info in the NEWS!! DO HW people. Those who come on here and scream and moan and groan are being lazy in their own respect, and have no room to make comments or anything else for that matter. The site was not created to bash, or argue. It was made to combine ideas, intel and truth about this investment. Nothing more, and what it has become is a drug to some starving for intel and truth, and a breeding ground for other that have no faith and are looking for something to get mad about. If you don't like the intel or what Okie and them say, KEEP IT TO YOURSELF! No one cares about what terrible things you have to say about something YOU don't think is the truth! I am not going to call out some of the people cause they know who they are. I won't lie to you, I don't do the Homework, and I don't read anything, and yes I feel as if I have to pick out the truth, but that's all I do. I believe what I feel I should and move on, which is what everyone else needs to do.

Now with all that being said, I feel it's that it needs to be said that all the "GURUS" as some have labeled them to be, DO have intel and connections and answers. Now, some might be skewed a little or a lot, but I feel they do have info that is real. Now we all know that information does get twisted if handed down through the ranks and some of it is INCORRECT. This should not put blame on the "GURUS", because they are just relaying to us. They can stop, shut down the site and then all of us will have to go somewhere else and all the cry babies will have to go bash someone else! You think it's nice to see all of their posts put in the Doozie sections or the I don't believe sections? NO it's not nice and it makes all the credibility that they have left just go out the window. Yet they still come on here and provide some structure, and if some doesn't like it, they need to cash in now and stop worrying about this INVESTMENT! You can bash this all you want, I don't care, because if you do bash it, your ignorant anyways and I wouldn't even trust you with a water gun!

I am not trying to offend anyone, I just want everyone to see that it's getting out of hand here and every negative comment made is another gunshot to the motivation that we all are trying to hang on to. We don't know anything except what we hear and read, and whether we choose to believe it is up to us. Unless you can help sort confusing things out or have a valid question that can actually be answered, please do us all a favor and SHUT YOU MOUTH and keep it closed.....
(SIGH......) Look everyone, we need to stick together and try to motivate each other. This is all getting too personal and it shouldn't be,.......... alright? I want all of this to end and all of us to be richer than we are now, and the only way to stay motivated is to help, not hurt. So lets help each other, and hold on tight, so we don't lose hope and to be honest, our dignity. I have faith in everyone and all of this, so keep your heads up and the positive thoughts in your head.

Ok, I'm done, but on a final note, I want you all to know... I am in my early 20s, with less than a million dinar, almost 65Gs in debt and live with my mom. I only go to school and work to earn a place to eat, sleep, and shower. This would definitely help me, but I don't get mad or upset. I just keep going and going, waiting and waiting. Living my life as I should as if I have nothing INVESTED, because none of us know when it will happen or if it will. I suggest maybe some stay off these sites for a day or so and take a break. I know things could be worse, but keeping the faith and living life are the only things that matter, because if this wasn't happening, who would you be, and where would you be? Good night you all and......GO RV

Hey Crisis17 Good job...rick152

Crisis17, excellent post. And for someone in their early 20's no less. I hope many of the older folks here read this. Great job.

God bless.

What an amazing man you are!! Thank you for your clear headedness and a heart that is bigger than Texas and Alaska!!! Good for you AND for your mother who raised you so well.

Many Blessings to you.

I agree with you and well said. You are wise for your years. All of the cry babies and complainers should move on to a site that pleases them or keep their opinion to themselves. Don't complain about what you keep allowing....move on and give the rest of us a break. This site is set apart from the others....it's FAMILY. If you guys don't like it just move on to one that suits you and good luck with that. Okie and the rest of the hard working OOM mods are so generous with their valuable time and energy and all volunteer. And instead of being paid they are shelling out the money to do this....just think about their phone bill, and mileage, and everything else that we aren't aware of. Crisis good luck to you and I hope you have a successful and happy life.

Well said crisis. You can work with me anytime your ready.

All the crybaby's and complainers should go to Dinarvets' or go back there. They leave Dinarvets because they have no intel except adam montana who post once a month. They get all of their intel from other sites and as soon as they get it they start bashing it. They really have no intel people on that site and yet they stay loyal to a site that has no intel other than what is brought to them from other sites which they quickly chew to threads, figure that out!

I am with you on that! Great post. Thanks

Thanks for the great post-- "out of the mouths of babes!" Ray T and the rest of the free subscribers, please let us know when your intel has information, your homework is ready for your report, and your free website is ready for viewing!

Go RV and thanks for all the intel Okie and team:)

Hey RayT

No one forced you to be here either !

To RayT...

RIGHT ON BROTHER...I'm with ya 100% :cheers:

Well said Ray. Respectfully done. I for one ,applaud you. Great post!

If you don't like the song that's playing on the radio ..... CHANGE THE STATION
If you don't like what's on your TV ...... CHANGE THE CHANNEL

Using RayT's logic : You turn your TV on and its about politics you don't agree with. Do you stand there and yell at the TV ?

MESSAGE TO RAYT : There is a difference with debating and bashing. If you provided fact (not hear/say), possibly we could all partake in an intelligent conversation and even possibly learn something. You have only provided "but he said on ..... " type of arguments then insult everyone out of your own frustration and possibly desperation.

Its a free forum and country and buddy - it works both ways - only problem there is no knob we can turn to shut you off.

If you don't like the song, change the station!!! The problem here is that the people playing the songs lately are unhappy people playing crappy stuff so I am going to leave til all these folks are gone! SEE YOU ALL MUCH LATER Ray T and revenue rog should probably take a break as well. You two have obviously had enough!!!!

You're right...it's break time !!! I never did like soaps' anyway...lol

Dear Mr. RayT

With ALL due respect i DID read your questions and each and every one of them started with " We were told .... " or "Okie said ..."

NEWSFLASH : THAT'S HEAR/SAY !

So, let me get this right ..... Someone posts a statement, you read the statement, you do not believe the statement, you reply to statement by questioning the veracity of said statement, you do not provide any "intelligence" of your own. and YOU COP THE ATTITUDE ????

Have you ever heard of the statement "Never look a gift horse in the mouth" ? do you know what that means ? This forum was designed to provide information to people like you FOR FREE ! AND YOU HAVE THE AUDACIDTY to insult by calling people "liberal dictators" ? FWI Here is the definition (which is fact, not hear-say) of the word LIBERAL:

1.
a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded.
c. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism.
d. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States.
2.
a. Tending to give freely; generous: a liberal benefactor.
b. Generous in amount; ample: a liberal serving of potatoes.
3. Not strict or literal; loose or approximate: a liberal translation.
4. Of, relating to, or based on the traditional arts and sciences of a college or university curriculum: a liberal education.
5.
a. Archaic Permissible or appropriate for a person of free birth; befitting a lady or gentleman.
b. Obsolete Morally unrestrained; licentious.
n.
1. A person with liberal ideas or opinions.
2. Liberal A member of a Liberal political party.

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[Middle English, generous, from Old French, from Latin lberlis, from lber, free; see leudh- in Indo-European

The word "liberal" come from the french word LIBRE which means FREE.

Hense, your statement "a liberal dictator" are totally contradictory.


You say i'm being hypocritical ? BY ALL MEANS .... PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT.

I do not believe everything i've read posted by any or all gurus.... that's up to ME to accept or reject. It is up to ME to do my own homework, (should I deem it important enough). I do NOT expect someone else to FEED ME. It is upon each and everyone one of us to make up our own minds.

I'm not going to repeat what i've already said. You fanny and complain about information given to you for free. No one held a gun to your head to sign up. Nobody is making you read. YOU and YOU alone choose to seak or not to seak information about the revaluation of the dinars. This place is simply ONE means to that end. There are many others out there (and NO, i'm not going to paste the links) because I looked myself and found them myself. I read each and everyone of them then come to my own conclusion. YOU want to make someone accountable for statements they make. THIS IS NOT YOUR FORUM even though it's free, its not YOURS.

I would strongly suggest you start your own board where people can sign up and vent, fanny, bash, insult. (A lot of good that will do anyway)

So....councy...this must be YOUR forum then..right? Just trying to find somone accountable for mis-truths, that's all...by the way..I worked in the S2 sector for years in the army and trust me on this, ANYTHING Okie has ever said IS NOT INTEL ..but if it's YOUR definition then hey, whatever works for you :|

So, you must be a very intelligent person ! Answer this one for me then, why are you here?

We're all here for the same reason- The RV, and waiting like everyone else, so don't buck the system- you can wait, just like we are, and it will get here when it gets here,OK?

Terbo56: Exactly.

BINGO!!!!

Don't you all think a "time out" is appropriate here? Before this degenerates to a "Well, so's your mother" kind of shouting match, why don't you all go have some brunch and enjoy what must be a beautiful day outside!

Have a nice day.... :flower:

I didn't think I was being too obnoxius- Just a reality check was all I inferred, didn't mean to offend anyone-

Ok, RayT you got me, you provided proof and showed me up. Good job, and again you are right. Everything you stated is true, and I will recognize it, but I can tell you see my point too. My question is, how come your not using your intelligence to provide proof for us on everything for this investment, rather than picking a fight? Look the more HELP we can all provide the better. I didn't take this as a bashing just so you know.

Alright, that is fair and I respect what you have to say. See we can get along, and it just sounded bad. Guess maybe cause of the way people on here retorted, but if you weren't, then great. Clearly stating the facts is always ok. I will check this Randy out and I appreciate your source. I just want to be informed and keep a level head, so I'm glad you responded, that way EVERYONE can see that issues can peacefully get resolved. Thanks and I wish you well.

RayT wrote:Hey Crisis17:

Thanks once again for the feedback...

Randy's website is currencychatter.com

His last Conference Call is posted...

Good day, RayT --

Thanks for the link to Randy Koonce's last CC. I only catch his calls after the fact when someone such as yourself posts a link. I agree with you that Randy is a real voice of reason, and he doesn't seem to have any political ax to grind nor any vested interest ($$$$$$$) in what he tells us on his calls. Anyway, just wanted to say I appreciate your providing this info!
:flower:

SEB,

Randy's curency chatter is setup just like here, free to all, be respectfull, have some humor and you will fit in fine.

He has several members who scour the news and post what they find and ask for your opinion on it.

Great site