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RayRat Call Notes 12/26/17
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TNT Call 26-December-2017 – Special Update Call Replay: 641.715.0623, PIN CODE 409029#
RECORDED CALL LINK [Music: It’s done, it’s finished, the RV’s on it’s way; everything’s completed, there’s nothing else to say. It’s done, it’s finished, the RV’s on it’s way; we’re just awaiting for the call any day.]
RayRen: Good afternoon, TNT super-fantastic family! It’s Terrific Tuesday Friday, December 26 2017, with yours truly RayRat98 here, with our special guest Tony!
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Tony: Good morning, TNT! Today I’m going to explain some stuff, and tell you how things are up to 45 minutes ago. It’s the real deal, like it or not. We will go through some history, and I want everyone to know what we went through to get here, and what we are looking forward to happening.
You need to know where you come from to know where you’re going to and what’s available to you. The most important thing to know today is that I may not be right, but I’m never wrong!
First I want to clear something up. I was getting texts yesterday as I was trying to explain things. We have government people in Kurdistan and Baghdad as well as other countries – Holland, England, Canada, other parts of our group. This information is also coming from high levels in the US government, and those who work for the banking system. This network we have built over the years and it’s still active now.
We also get information from the guy on the street in Baghdad. One source is a cab driver, and his brother-in-law was someone I was in the military with. He lives there now, and he tells us what is going on in the shops and markets and at the banks.
Remember Hot Dog Man? That is who they sent the information to, and then we put it together. We know the banks are closed until 2. January, or at least al-Rashid Bank is closed. However, some of my contacts in the US with MasterCards say that all banks are closed. But the CBI is not closed, and the smaller banks are open to give Iraqis confidence in this process. Over the last 14 years, we have got information on this, often ahead of other sources.
Two, three days later, we would find out that our information was correct. We went through a lot to bring you the information. So here is some history: When Bush, Cheney and Blair put this plan together, it was benefit US – England, the US, and even Iraq. That word benefit carries a whole lot with it, and part of it may have to do with NDAs, or not. All we really know is that President Bush said that the war will pay for itself, which is a good thing. If he didn’t authorize us to be a part of this, we would not be a part of this, because we weren’t part of Kuwait.
The reason we are where we’re at today is because Iraq’s economy survived the last 14 years, including Chapter 7, and stabilizing their government, and stabilizing their economy. How did they do that with no infrastructure or market apart from oil and their currency. They survived because WE bought Iraqi dinar. They have shut down the auctions, but if we hadn’t bought into this, with information we were handpicked to pass on to you, then the Iraqi economy would have collapsed. They were taking their own currency out the back door of the CBI and selling it to dealers and to us. We were a driving force in making this thing happen in purchasing dinar. Where was it going? Not into the Iraqi economy, because they were using US dollars.
It wasn’t going to terrorists, for the most part. That ten-year period wouldn’t have happened without you and me. Until the last two years, when they started shutting dealers down, we were the driving force. We were told “you’ve earned your seat at the table”, when we did the Twitter campaign, and we were going to get cut out due to our government people who did exchanges and set up people’s accounts were telling us all about who was getting paid at what rates, copies of the transactions, everything. We knew that VIPs were going first, but we expected to follow right after them.
We went through all that information, misinformation, starting and stopping. “we are the people”, talking to our Congress people, and phone calls telling us to stop the campaign. You all got letters saying that this was not going to happen! But we are here, now, and all that has to happen is for them to live up to what they said they would do, and we do what we said we would do. People are going to get paid, and some people will get more than the basic rate. Everyone cannot get 25, 30, or 50 dollars per dinar, but there will be a certain percentage released in contract rates.
They agreed to MORE than I thought would be available, and I said that we could live with that, so long as it’s fair. One thing we cannot do is this: we cannot make them do anything. We can’t make them RV tomorrow at 10am; there have always been bigger things than our getting paid. There is a Global Currency Reset that will affect almost every country in the world, apart from North Korea. Even Russia and Iran are involved now. No one is holding this up to piss you off for Christmas. The only thing we can do is to make sure we will be included in the event when it happens. We have accomplished that; all we do now is see if they live up to their agreement.
We kept everything from the last 14 years: every phone call, text, note, all the records, so that we have a history of this event from our perspective. I appreciated what President Bush did, although I didn’t like President Bush because he’s a Republican. However, I saw an interview he did and read his book, and I respect him as a man. He had a bigger fight than you will ever know, especially in the first four years. We could have gotten his done eight years ago. However, the best laid plans don’t always win through, so it was passed on. When President Obama looked at this, it wasn’t about the money; it was about the growth of a country, and the health of the global economic system.
When the money comes, will it last a lifetime? Will we be in a position to teach people how to fish? It’s not about buying a house, car or plane, it’s about building a legacy, and the only way Obama could do that was to make sure that Iraq’s economy was built on a solid foundation. If this had happened ten years ago, the dinar could have been worthless in a few years.
President Obama sought to make sure that Iraq could stand on its own two feet, with more than oil. We helped them change their banking system, their economy, and their judicial system. Look how far they have come in the last two years! Without that, we could be rich today and our country could be broke tomorrow. A major part of that is Basel III, and what President Obama did was just as important as what President Bush did in setting this up.
I took all your letters, the letters from Congress and bank people who told you it was a scam, all our call transcripts, and put them together as a book to present to President Bush and President Obama as gifts, to say thank you. We thought that would happen two years ago. It was supposed to be passed on Senator Clinton. The Kuwaiti RV happened under Bill Clinton, and this was supposed to happened under Hillary. Now we have a different President, and the tax laws have been changed.
Come January, there will be six million people with the average person holding 100,000 dinar. If we go with the $3 rate, that’s $300,000 per person, and they will spend money to boost the economy and create jobs. People will buy newer cars, slightly bigger houses, and the economy will boom as planned, just with a different person in the White House. Next year is an election year, so some other things will change as well. Now, in 2014, there were supposed to be 61 politicians who said they were going to quit, because they were going to be done when the RV happened. As of this morning, ,there are 27 Republicans standing down – why do you think that is? Think big picture here – understand what is going on here, and what made it possible.
The rich get richer, and now we are the rich. If we continue to have these calls, I will tell you how to multiply what you are receiving with this RV… When did I tell you about 3-D printing? Maybe in 2012? Where is that industry today? Where is the growth? Just wait until they start going public. We will have so much power after this in terms of using this money. A couple of years ago I told you that it’s your decision what to do with this money; you can go out into your own community and be the Shark Tank or angel investor in your community, and plan out the growth of your community.
You have the money, and you have the power – as a group, together. You have the power to select your council members and your mayor. It’s all about backing the right people, and that money enables you to dot hat. Start locally, and then choose your State senators and governors, and your Congress people. You have big say now that you have the influence and the foundation you can create as small groups. Listen to the news about the economy – that’s not from tax returns! That growth is going to be from this RV. We know the history and where to go from here. Globally and on the screens, the dinar rate is now $3.34 (as of Friday evening).
The CBI said they wanted everybody to be paid by last Saturday, and one bank is closed for their annual audit until 2. January. Our government here is only doing certain things between now and the end of the year, and they’re doing the same thing in Iraq. We know last Tuesday that the rate was $3.37. Then their retired veterans got their pay, and the rate was $3.37. Then the Iraqi students got paid at the same rate. Then my guy in Baghdad contacted me, and the rate in Baghdad was also $3.37.
It’s not frozen or pending, it’s spendable cash. So what does that mean for us? On Friday, when bank people were leaving they were told to enjoy their weekend, to be prepared to be on standby on Wednesday. They are at work today, and they are waiting to see what happens tomorrow. Others were given a date and time, but it didn’t happen. This morning they have a new date and time to expect this. The window is open, and it could be any time.
Last week, Ray knew the plan but it wasn’t the right time to share it. For the last ten years, certain people said the rate would be 1:1, and it might have been over there, but it was never going to be 1:1 over here. What was happening last week? They were going to come out with a $2 rate, then it would go to $3, then the real rate would show up in January. That was so that they could get through as many people as they could with a stable rate, instead of waiting until January when it will be a flexible rate.
The Forex rate goes up and down, and they would really prefer to deal with a fixed rate. So one of the major banks said “this is the public rate”, and it may be the rate this week, but it will not be the rate when it hits Forex. So they were planning on $2 then $3 to give Iraqis more confidence in their banks. That was 2-3 weeks ago, and everyone would have jumped on it. And that’s okay. There is a first mouse in every situation, and it’s fine for you to do that and make money with it.
There is also a second mouse, so know that what you see might always be what you get. The first position in line is not always the best position. Some know thts they are getting group rates, and others know how to get the contract rate. The biggest phone call we’ve ever had had 83,000 people listening, and we have 250K on Twitter. But there are six million people with dinar, and not everyone will get the highest rates. However, we will let you know as soon as you should go to the bank; Ray and I will be on the call with all the information you need.
Today is a day for you to ask if that is a settled rate, because it seems to be going up and down on the screens. Today through the end of the month, if the banks are smart, they will open it open while they have this fixed rate to work with. I’d get as many people through while I can, without having to check the rate every two minutes on Forex. Will taxes apply until the end of the year? According to our guy at the US Treasury, the new tax law supposedly removes all possibility of a supplemental tax on these exchanges.
If I find out I need to wait until the 1st, that won’t bother me. If there is no tax, we’ll just have to clarify that, and then people will do what they do. There are other possibilities of how to handle this before the first, but we will wait until this goes live to give you those strategies. The rate at this minute is $3.47; the rate has been fluctuating at two of the banks. I want you to understand and look back on this, so that you know what to look at in the future when you look for advice. Everyone has been saying that we need Article 140 for this to go international, or the banks to do that, or HCL, etc. “They” say we need to wait for this to go international. I told you last April that dinar was international for over a year. If you get on a your phone this minute, you have a list of 63 banks and three credit unions that handle dinar in the US.
You can go in today and buy or sell Iraqi dinar at those banks. CitiBank has dinar listed; pick up the phone and call them, or walk down there with one dinar note. They will examine the note and tell you the rate. It is international already, and for the last two years. What we have been waiting for is a better rate. One of my guys just texted me – he just walked of the bank, and the rate was $3.47. RayRen: Iraqi sources contacted me last night, and the rate on their cards is $3.34.
Questions from the TNT forum
Q: Tony mentioned (I think…it’s either my interpretation or what I WANT to hear ) that the TNT’ers will be taken care of. How do “they” know who is part of TNT?
A: I know people who work at the exchange centers. They exchanged someone a few years ago, and sometime they have an agreement with ‘points’. You might say “I don’t want to pay those points; you’re already getting all that money in your bank.” I suggested he do something that he hadn’t thought of, and it worked. That’s what we’ll be talking to you about as this goes more public.
Q: When we exchange will it be asset backed USN? Or USD as we have now Federal Reserve notes?
A: It’s going to be digits on a screen! It’s not going to be in a vault with your name on it. It will be the same digits on a screen as everyone else gets. Years ago, my UST said to put your dinar exchange in a separate account, because it might be taxed differently. I will do that, because better safe than sorry. You will never see ‘treasury notes’, physically in your hand. They would have to change all the ATMs and vending machines; I don’t see them doing that. Treasury notes are used between countries, and they are valued differently than the dollar bills you walk around with in your wallet. When we went onto Treasury Reserve bills, people didn’t walk around buying bread with one rather than the other. It’s just BS.
Q: On last night’s call you stated that five or six currencies will come out now, that five more will come out in six months and then nine more after that. Since leverage is the name of the game here, can you tell us which five or six currencies are the ones that are revaluing now, the five or six in six months, and then the other nine and when that might be? Could you also include the potential rates so that we know where we get the biggest bang for our bucks?
RR: I wouldn’t talk about the future ones, but it’s up to you.
Tony: I’d say the first ones are the dinar, dong, Zim, Rupiah, and rial… let’s got with those five. For years, the best deal has been the Zim – if it goes at the rate we are hearing. The rate is there, right this minute; we saw it on the screen 20 minutes ago. HOW it will be paid out is in question. Otherwise, the best deal is the Vietnamese dong, in my opinion, because of the rate of return. Also, the dong has always been a legitimate currency, and all we need is the new rate. Some have been scared of the dinar and the Zim, but they look at the dong and say ‘okay’ because they can always take it back if this doesn’t happen.
If you guys are not billionaires tomorrow, it’s because you didn’t pay attention. When I get off the phone, I’m going to buy as much currency as I can before this goes public!
RR: What about the guarantee implied by the dinar having already changed on the cards? Tony: As of right this moment, we know that Iraqi dinar is now at $3.37 on their cards. If you can still buy dinar at 1160, then buy it! The rates and plans for the Zim, dong, and rupiah have been pretty consistent apart from Zim, which keeps changing in the last 90 days. Because it’s so much money, they are trying to figure out how NOT to flood the economy [with Zim exchanges].
Q: Do you think, believe, or know for a fact if contract rates will be available for any of the other currencies besides the dinar? Also how long those contract rates may be available?
RR: In know in the past two years, I’ve addressed this numerous times. Maybe they want to here you address this! Tony: I do know there are only two currencies that might have rates with a dollar or more between the high and low rates. Whether that is a ‘rate’ or a ‘contract rate’, there is a difference, and they are still available to certain people. They have street rate or public rate, then a premium rate, and then a contract rate. There you go. That’s what I have been told, and I’ve been given some different levels of those rates. We will talk about how to get those rates on the RV call, once they have been announced.
Tony: We will go to live callers. I will attempt to answer the other posted questions later, and post my answers on the Questions page.
Questions from live callers
865/404: [Greetings and appreciation] Years ago, algorithms were explained, and we were told that once it got beyond a certain point, it wouldn’t be stopped. Was that a fairy tale to keep us in the game?
Tony: Iraq has tried to push this through five other times within the last 18months. They are ready, they want their money, and they didn’t make the qualifications of IMF, BIS, and US. It actually went through the process and everyone agreed, but when it came to the point, they didn’t let it go. Things constantly changed, so they had to start again from the beginning. We know that this played a part in catching people in frauds, taking dinar across the borders, money-laundering, etc. Unconsciously, we took part in some of those traps.
Caller: We know that Iraq is focused on corruption; how many politicians and ex-politicians need to be brought to justice before this happens?
Tony: This is ready to go; that will be months down the road. It’s the same with Kurdistan; if we waited for that to settle down, it could be a couple of years. Those guys are going to be under investigation for months. They are tracking the money through the banks and other records. It’s all documented, the same way we do it over here. However, they need to make a deal with those other countries to get their money back and make agreements to deal with those money movements.
Now that Iraq has changed its laws and judiciary, we know that it won’t happen again, and that gives us the confidence in Iraq and their currency. Remember, we will have a Day of Giving ten days after the event.
Put TNT or super-fantastic on your gifts, and we will post it all over Facebook and Instagram. I will come up with some kind of reward for those who share the most. And I will definitely be going to Vegas to celebrate, no matter what. OR
callers: Could you tell me what the Heritage Fund is, please? I haven’t heard that phrase before…
Tony: I’d love to, but Ray sent me a text saying NOT to talk about the Heritage Fund. If you put that question in the forum, someone will tell you.
Caller: About the level to be qualified investors for the next round – any news on that?
RayRen: You will need a net worth of ten million dollars to do that. If we are still doing the calls, I will tell you how to qualify. I was given a list of nine currencies, but I’m not supposed to give that out, so I won’t give it out on a call or in public.
243 caller: You said that there were two dates, and we’re already past those. Do you believe it will happen this year?
Tony: They are not on standby, but I’m pretty sure it will happen anywhere from tomorrow to next Tuesday, which is 2. January. I know the plan was to get as many of us in as possible before they go public on Forex. They could start tomorrow and go up to New Year’s Eve. I know they wanted to give us ten days; we are in the window because Iraq has the new rates all the way down to street level.
The banks were authorized to release it ten days ago, but they didn’t want to do it until Iraq went. The banks will make a ton of money on this, and they might want to bring that in before they have to deal with the volatility of Forex. The foundation bank is going to go first, and then the other banks will go. They are all in competition for your money. So far as I know, the lead bank is still Wells Fargo.
Caller: I bank at Regions, and when I called last week, they said that dinar is not on the screen, and they will call me when it does go.
Tony: Several contacts at various banks ARE seeing dinar on their screens, so that will change. If they haven’t seen it before, they may start seeing it today. But they can’t do the exchanges until they are given the green light. They were given authorization ten days ago, but they chose not to go.
919 caller: Can you tell us the other rates besides dinar? And do you know what’s happening with the Zim?
RayRen: The rates are still consistent with what we’ve shared for the last six months.
Tony: The Zim process has changed so many times in the last 2-3 months that I don’t want to confuse anyone. Let’s wait and see what happens, and then we’ll go through this step-by-step. That plans I’ve been told make no sense at all to me.
RayRen: We’ve been giving different scenarios based on different realities. It seems to be changing again, so let’s get confirmation and then we’ll work out strategies.
312 caller: [Appreciation] You said the rates on the cards are live in other countries. Are other countries exchanging the dinar already?
Tony: I don’t know of any countries doing actual exchanges. The cards are held by Iraqi citizens –students, veterans, retired politicians – and their cards are active.
610 caller: if you are financially able to donate, please send your checks and money orders to Ray Renfrow, PO Box 1748, Elm City, NC 27822. You can also find the address at www.tntsuperfantastic.com; click on the Donate button and send your check today.
501 caller: Are there still going to be 800 numbers?
Tony: The last information I had said that there were five people who would have the numbers and hold calls just like this to get the information out as quickly as possible. Earlier this year, I was still on the list. Last week, I was told that it wasn’t finalized, and they were thinking of having each bank use their own 800 numbers and people to spread the word. That doesn’t make sense to me. Some banks want there to be a national 800 number, but you can’t have one for each bank – there are two many.
Wells Fargo is supposed to be the foundation bank; WF has call centers and exchange centers set up, and some of those exchange centers will deal with multiple banks. If there is a not a centralized system, they are just asking for chaos as people call banks just to get information. Remember those people showing in buses in front of banks? If they don’t put out 800 numbers, they can expect that all over the country, and I
Closing Statement
I appreciate you all hanging on for two hours. We’re now down to the end, so I’m going to say goodbye. Years ago, when I was asked to start doing this, it was only supposed to be for a week… and that was nine years ago. We got caught up helping people, and we have done everything we can to make sure people receives a fair share, how to protect it and how to make it grow, helping as many people as we can, and make it last for generations – if you do the right things, and invest it for you and your family.
We’ve told you everything we know, so that you can make good plans and choices. Be ready!
RayRen played I Believe: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DYrqOUKLtA
Report Tony for Probation Violations!
Judge's email/phone: ksd_murguia_chambers@ksd.uscourts.gov 913-735-2340
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TNT Call 26-December-2017 – Special Update Call Replay: 641.715.0623, PIN CODE 409029#
RECORDED CALL LINK [Music: It’s done, it’s finished, the RV’s on it’s way; everything’s completed, there’s nothing else to say. It’s done, it’s finished, the RV’s on it’s way; we’re just awaiting for the call any day.]
RayRen: Good afternoon, TNT super-fantastic family! It’s Terrific Tuesday Friday, December 26 2017, with yours truly RayRat98 here, with our special guest Tony!
Report Tony for Probation Violations!
Judge's email/phone: ksd_murguia_chambers@ksd.uscourts.gov 913-735-2340
DA's email/phone: Scott.Rask@usdoj.gov 913-551-6730
Tony: Good morning, TNT! Today I’m going to explain some stuff, and tell you how things are up to 45 minutes ago. It’s the real deal, like it or not. We will go through some history, and I want everyone to know what we went through to get here, and what we are looking forward to happening.
You need to know where you come from to know where you’re going to and what’s available to you. The most important thing to know today is that I may not be right, but I’m never wrong!
First I want to clear something up. I was getting texts yesterday as I was trying to explain things. We have government people in Kurdistan and Baghdad as well as other countries – Holland, England, Canada, other parts of our group. This information is also coming from high levels in the US government, and those who work for the banking system. This network we have built over the years and it’s still active now.
We also get information from the guy on the street in Baghdad. One source is a cab driver, and his brother-in-law was someone I was in the military with. He lives there now, and he tells us what is going on in the shops and markets and at the banks.
Remember Hot Dog Man? That is who they sent the information to, and then we put it together. We know the banks are closed until 2. January, or at least al-Rashid Bank is closed. However, some of my contacts in the US with MasterCards say that all banks are closed. But the CBI is not closed, and the smaller banks are open to give Iraqis confidence in this process. Over the last 14 years, we have got information on this, often ahead of other sources.
Two, three days later, we would find out that our information was correct. We went through a lot to bring you the information. So here is some history: When Bush, Cheney and Blair put this plan together, it was benefit US – England, the US, and even Iraq. That word benefit carries a whole lot with it, and part of it may have to do with NDAs, or not. All we really know is that President Bush said that the war will pay for itself, which is a good thing. If he didn’t authorize us to be a part of this, we would not be a part of this, because we weren’t part of Kuwait.
The reason we are where we’re at today is because Iraq’s economy survived the last 14 years, including Chapter 7, and stabilizing their government, and stabilizing their economy. How did they do that with no infrastructure or market apart from oil and their currency. They survived because WE bought Iraqi dinar. They have shut down the auctions, but if we hadn’t bought into this, with information we were handpicked to pass on to you, then the Iraqi economy would have collapsed. They were taking their own currency out the back door of the CBI and selling it to dealers and to us. We were a driving force in making this thing happen in purchasing dinar. Where was it going? Not into the Iraqi economy, because they were using US dollars.
It wasn’t going to terrorists, for the most part. That ten-year period wouldn’t have happened without you and me. Until the last two years, when they started shutting dealers down, we were the driving force. We were told “you’ve earned your seat at the table”, when we did the Twitter campaign, and we were going to get cut out due to our government people who did exchanges and set up people’s accounts were telling us all about who was getting paid at what rates, copies of the transactions, everything. We knew that VIPs were going first, but we expected to follow right after them.
We went through all that information, misinformation, starting and stopping. “we are the people”, talking to our Congress people, and phone calls telling us to stop the campaign. You all got letters saying that this was not going to happen! But we are here, now, and all that has to happen is for them to live up to what they said they would do, and we do what we said we would do. People are going to get paid, and some people will get more than the basic rate. Everyone cannot get 25, 30, or 50 dollars per dinar, but there will be a certain percentage released in contract rates.
They agreed to MORE than I thought would be available, and I said that we could live with that, so long as it’s fair. One thing we cannot do is this: we cannot make them do anything. We can’t make them RV tomorrow at 10am; there have always been bigger things than our getting paid. There is a Global Currency Reset that will affect almost every country in the world, apart from North Korea. Even Russia and Iran are involved now. No one is holding this up to piss you off for Christmas. The only thing we can do is to make sure we will be included in the event when it happens. We have accomplished that; all we do now is see if they live up to their agreement.
We kept everything from the last 14 years: every phone call, text, note, all the records, so that we have a history of this event from our perspective. I appreciated what President Bush did, although I didn’t like President Bush because he’s a Republican. However, I saw an interview he did and read his book, and I respect him as a man. He had a bigger fight than you will ever know, especially in the first four years. We could have gotten his done eight years ago. However, the best laid plans don’t always win through, so it was passed on. When President Obama looked at this, it wasn’t about the money; it was about the growth of a country, and the health of the global economic system.
When the money comes, will it last a lifetime? Will we be in a position to teach people how to fish? It’s not about buying a house, car or plane, it’s about building a legacy, and the only way Obama could do that was to make sure that Iraq’s economy was built on a solid foundation. If this had happened ten years ago, the dinar could have been worthless in a few years.
President Obama sought to make sure that Iraq could stand on its own two feet, with more than oil. We helped them change their banking system, their economy, and their judicial system. Look how far they have come in the last two years! Without that, we could be rich today and our country could be broke tomorrow. A major part of that is Basel III, and what President Obama did was just as important as what President Bush did in setting this up.
I took all your letters, the letters from Congress and bank people who told you it was a scam, all our call transcripts, and put them together as a book to present to President Bush and President Obama as gifts, to say thank you. We thought that would happen two years ago. It was supposed to be passed on Senator Clinton. The Kuwaiti RV happened under Bill Clinton, and this was supposed to happened under Hillary. Now we have a different President, and the tax laws have been changed.
Come January, there will be six million people with the average person holding 100,000 dinar. If we go with the $3 rate, that’s $300,000 per person, and they will spend money to boost the economy and create jobs. People will buy newer cars, slightly bigger houses, and the economy will boom as planned, just with a different person in the White House. Next year is an election year, so some other things will change as well. Now, in 2014, there were supposed to be 61 politicians who said they were going to quit, because they were going to be done when the RV happened. As of this morning, ,there are 27 Republicans standing down – why do you think that is? Think big picture here – understand what is going on here, and what made it possible.
The rich get richer, and now we are the rich. If we continue to have these calls, I will tell you how to multiply what you are receiving with this RV… When did I tell you about 3-D printing? Maybe in 2012? Where is that industry today? Where is the growth? Just wait until they start going public. We will have so much power after this in terms of using this money. A couple of years ago I told you that it’s your decision what to do with this money; you can go out into your own community and be the Shark Tank or angel investor in your community, and plan out the growth of your community.
You have the money, and you have the power – as a group, together. You have the power to select your council members and your mayor. It’s all about backing the right people, and that money enables you to dot hat. Start locally, and then choose your State senators and governors, and your Congress people. You have big say now that you have the influence and the foundation you can create as small groups. Listen to the news about the economy – that’s not from tax returns! That growth is going to be from this RV. We know the history and where to go from here. Globally and on the screens, the dinar rate is now $3.34 (as of Friday evening).
The CBI said they wanted everybody to be paid by last Saturday, and one bank is closed for their annual audit until 2. January. Our government here is only doing certain things between now and the end of the year, and they’re doing the same thing in Iraq. We know last Tuesday that the rate was $3.37. Then their retired veterans got their pay, and the rate was $3.37. Then the Iraqi students got paid at the same rate. Then my guy in Baghdad contacted me, and the rate in Baghdad was also $3.37.
It’s not frozen or pending, it’s spendable cash. So what does that mean for us? On Friday, when bank people were leaving they were told to enjoy their weekend, to be prepared to be on standby on Wednesday. They are at work today, and they are waiting to see what happens tomorrow. Others were given a date and time, but it didn’t happen. This morning they have a new date and time to expect this. The window is open, and it could be any time.
Last week, Ray knew the plan but it wasn’t the right time to share it. For the last ten years, certain people said the rate would be 1:1, and it might have been over there, but it was never going to be 1:1 over here. What was happening last week? They were going to come out with a $2 rate, then it would go to $3, then the real rate would show up in January. That was so that they could get through as many people as they could with a stable rate, instead of waiting until January when it will be a flexible rate.
The Forex rate goes up and down, and they would really prefer to deal with a fixed rate. So one of the major banks said “this is the public rate”, and it may be the rate this week, but it will not be the rate when it hits Forex. So they were planning on $2 then $3 to give Iraqis more confidence in their banks. That was 2-3 weeks ago, and everyone would have jumped on it. And that’s okay. There is a first mouse in every situation, and it’s fine for you to do that and make money with it.
There is also a second mouse, so know that what you see might always be what you get. The first position in line is not always the best position. Some know thts they are getting group rates, and others know how to get the contract rate. The biggest phone call we’ve ever had had 83,000 people listening, and we have 250K on Twitter. But there are six million people with dinar, and not everyone will get the highest rates. However, we will let you know as soon as you should go to the bank; Ray and I will be on the call with all the information you need.
Today is a day for you to ask if that is a settled rate, because it seems to be going up and down on the screens. Today through the end of the month, if the banks are smart, they will open it open while they have this fixed rate to work with. I’d get as many people through while I can, without having to check the rate every two minutes on Forex. Will taxes apply until the end of the year? According to our guy at the US Treasury, the new tax law supposedly removes all possibility of a supplemental tax on these exchanges.
If I find out I need to wait until the 1st, that won’t bother me. If there is no tax, we’ll just have to clarify that, and then people will do what they do. There are other possibilities of how to handle this before the first, but we will wait until this goes live to give you those strategies. The rate at this minute is $3.47; the rate has been fluctuating at two of the banks. I want you to understand and look back on this, so that you know what to look at in the future when you look for advice. Everyone has been saying that we need Article 140 for this to go international, or the banks to do that, or HCL, etc. “They” say we need to wait for this to go international. I told you last April that dinar was international for over a year. If you get on a your phone this minute, you have a list of 63 banks and three credit unions that handle dinar in the US.
You can go in today and buy or sell Iraqi dinar at those banks. CitiBank has dinar listed; pick up the phone and call them, or walk down there with one dinar note. They will examine the note and tell you the rate. It is international already, and for the last two years. What we have been waiting for is a better rate. One of my guys just texted me – he just walked of the bank, and the rate was $3.47. RayRen: Iraqi sources contacted me last night, and the rate on their cards is $3.34.
Questions from the TNT forum
Q: Tony mentioned (I think…it’s either my interpretation or what I WANT to hear ) that the TNT’ers will be taken care of. How do “they” know who is part of TNT?
A: I know people who work at the exchange centers. They exchanged someone a few years ago, and sometime they have an agreement with ‘points’. You might say “I don’t want to pay those points; you’re already getting all that money in your bank.” I suggested he do something that he hadn’t thought of, and it worked. That’s what we’ll be talking to you about as this goes more public.
Q: When we exchange will it be asset backed USN? Or USD as we have now Federal Reserve notes?
A: It’s going to be digits on a screen! It’s not going to be in a vault with your name on it. It will be the same digits on a screen as everyone else gets. Years ago, my UST said to put your dinar exchange in a separate account, because it might be taxed differently. I will do that, because better safe than sorry. You will never see ‘treasury notes’, physically in your hand. They would have to change all the ATMs and vending machines; I don’t see them doing that. Treasury notes are used between countries, and they are valued differently than the dollar bills you walk around with in your wallet. When we went onto Treasury Reserve bills, people didn’t walk around buying bread with one rather than the other. It’s just BS.
Q: On last night’s call you stated that five or six currencies will come out now, that five more will come out in six months and then nine more after that. Since leverage is the name of the game here, can you tell us which five or six currencies are the ones that are revaluing now, the five or six in six months, and then the other nine and when that might be? Could you also include the potential rates so that we know where we get the biggest bang for our bucks?
RR: I wouldn’t talk about the future ones, but it’s up to you.
Tony: I’d say the first ones are the dinar, dong, Zim, Rupiah, and rial… let’s got with those five. For years, the best deal has been the Zim – if it goes at the rate we are hearing. The rate is there, right this minute; we saw it on the screen 20 minutes ago. HOW it will be paid out is in question. Otherwise, the best deal is the Vietnamese dong, in my opinion, because of the rate of return. Also, the dong has always been a legitimate currency, and all we need is the new rate. Some have been scared of the dinar and the Zim, but they look at the dong and say ‘okay’ because they can always take it back if this doesn’t happen.
If you guys are not billionaires tomorrow, it’s because you didn’t pay attention. When I get off the phone, I’m going to buy as much currency as I can before this goes public!
RR: What about the guarantee implied by the dinar having already changed on the cards? Tony: As of right this moment, we know that Iraqi dinar is now at $3.37 on their cards. If you can still buy dinar at 1160, then buy it! The rates and plans for the Zim, dong, and rupiah have been pretty consistent apart from Zim, which keeps changing in the last 90 days. Because it’s so much money, they are trying to figure out how NOT to flood the economy [with Zim exchanges].
Q: Do you think, believe, or know for a fact if contract rates will be available for any of the other currencies besides the dinar? Also how long those contract rates may be available?
RR: In know in the past two years, I’ve addressed this numerous times. Maybe they want to here you address this! Tony: I do know there are only two currencies that might have rates with a dollar or more between the high and low rates. Whether that is a ‘rate’ or a ‘contract rate’, there is a difference, and they are still available to certain people. They have street rate or public rate, then a premium rate, and then a contract rate. There you go. That’s what I have been told, and I’ve been given some different levels of those rates. We will talk about how to get those rates on the RV call, once they have been announced.
Tony: We will go to live callers. I will attempt to answer the other posted questions later, and post my answers on the Questions page.
Questions from live callers
865/404: [Greetings and appreciation] Years ago, algorithms were explained, and we were told that once it got beyond a certain point, it wouldn’t be stopped. Was that a fairy tale to keep us in the game?
Tony: Iraq has tried to push this through five other times within the last 18months. They are ready, they want their money, and they didn’t make the qualifications of IMF, BIS, and US. It actually went through the process and everyone agreed, but when it came to the point, they didn’t let it go. Things constantly changed, so they had to start again from the beginning. We know that this played a part in catching people in frauds, taking dinar across the borders, money-laundering, etc. Unconsciously, we took part in some of those traps.
Caller: We know that Iraq is focused on corruption; how many politicians and ex-politicians need to be brought to justice before this happens?
Tony: This is ready to go; that will be months down the road. It’s the same with Kurdistan; if we waited for that to settle down, it could be a couple of years. Those guys are going to be under investigation for months. They are tracking the money through the banks and other records. It’s all documented, the same way we do it over here. However, they need to make a deal with those other countries to get their money back and make agreements to deal with those money movements.
Now that Iraq has changed its laws and judiciary, we know that it won’t happen again, and that gives us the confidence in Iraq and their currency. Remember, we will have a Day of Giving ten days after the event.
Put TNT or super-fantastic on your gifts, and we will post it all over Facebook and Instagram. I will come up with some kind of reward for those who share the most. And I will definitely be going to Vegas to celebrate, no matter what. OR
callers: Could you tell me what the Heritage Fund is, please? I haven’t heard that phrase before…
Tony: I’d love to, but Ray sent me a text saying NOT to talk about the Heritage Fund. If you put that question in the forum, someone will tell you.
Caller: About the level to be qualified investors for the next round – any news on that?
RayRen: You will need a net worth of ten million dollars to do that. If we are still doing the calls, I will tell you how to qualify. I was given a list of nine currencies, but I’m not supposed to give that out, so I won’t give it out on a call or in public.
243 caller: You said that there were two dates, and we’re already past those. Do you believe it will happen this year?
Tony: They are not on standby, but I’m pretty sure it will happen anywhere from tomorrow to next Tuesday, which is 2. January. I know the plan was to get as many of us in as possible before they go public on Forex. They could start tomorrow and go up to New Year’s Eve. I know they wanted to give us ten days; we are in the window because Iraq has the new rates all the way down to street level.
The banks were authorized to release it ten days ago, but they didn’t want to do it until Iraq went. The banks will make a ton of money on this, and they might want to bring that in before they have to deal with the volatility of Forex. The foundation bank is going to go first, and then the other banks will go. They are all in competition for your money. So far as I know, the lead bank is still Wells Fargo.
Caller: I bank at Regions, and when I called last week, they said that dinar is not on the screen, and they will call me when it does go.
Tony: Several contacts at various banks ARE seeing dinar on their screens, so that will change. If they haven’t seen it before, they may start seeing it today. But they can’t do the exchanges until they are given the green light. They were given authorization ten days ago, but they chose not to go.
919 caller: Can you tell us the other rates besides dinar? And do you know what’s happening with the Zim?
RayRen: The rates are still consistent with what we’ve shared for the last six months.
Tony: The Zim process has changed so many times in the last 2-3 months that I don’t want to confuse anyone. Let’s wait and see what happens, and then we’ll go through this step-by-step. That plans I’ve been told make no sense at all to me.
RayRen: We’ve been giving different scenarios based on different realities. It seems to be changing again, so let’s get confirmation and then we’ll work out strategies.
312 caller: [Appreciation] You said the rates on the cards are live in other countries. Are other countries exchanging the dinar already?
Tony: I don’t know of any countries doing actual exchanges. The cards are held by Iraqi citizens –students, veterans, retired politicians – and their cards are active.
610 caller: if you are financially able to donate, please send your checks and money orders to Ray Renfrow, PO Box 1748, Elm City, NC 27822. You can also find the address at www.tntsuperfantastic.com; click on the Donate button and send your check today.
501 caller: Are there still going to be 800 numbers?
Tony: The last information I had said that there were five people who would have the numbers and hold calls just like this to get the information out as quickly as possible. Earlier this year, I was still on the list. Last week, I was told that it wasn’t finalized, and they were thinking of having each bank use their own 800 numbers and people to spread the word. That doesn’t make sense to me. Some banks want there to be a national 800 number, but you can’t have one for each bank – there are two many.
Wells Fargo is supposed to be the foundation bank; WF has call centers and exchange centers set up, and some of those exchange centers will deal with multiple banks. If there is a not a centralized system, they are just asking for chaos as people call banks just to get information. Remember those people showing in buses in front of banks? If they don’t put out 800 numbers, they can expect that all over the country, and I
Closing Statement
I appreciate you all hanging on for two hours. We’re now down to the end, so I’m going to say goodbye. Years ago, when I was asked to start doing this, it was only supposed to be for a week… and that was nine years ago. We got caught up helping people, and we have done everything we can to make sure people receives a fair share, how to protect it and how to make it grow, helping as many people as we can, and make it last for generations – if you do the right things, and invest it for you and your family.
We’ve told you everything we know, so that you can make good plans and choices. Be ready!
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TNT Tony wrote:If you guys are not billionaires tomorrow, it’s because you didn’t pay attention. When I get off the phone, I’m going to buy as much currency as I can before this goes public!
So Tony is back to pumping. Currency sales must be way down and too many Dinarians have woken up to all this nonsense.
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