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Post by shakes4life Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:18 am

So let's see how the LAME STREAM MEDIA and the NEO CONS spin this straw poll win.....OH and don't you know....Dr. Paul is UNELECTABLE....NOT if "we the people" say he's not!!! Way to go Dr. Paul...WE LOVE YOU! Smile


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With 45 percent of the vote, Ron Paul wins the GOP California Straw Poll!

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Post by openmind Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:39 am

AWESOME!!!





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Post by shakes4life Sun Sep 18, 2011 1:54 am

Congressman Ron Paul Wins 2011 California Straw Poll

LOS ANGELES – Minutes ago in front of the California Republican Party convention delegation at the JW Marriott at L.A. Live, CRP Chairman Tom Del Beccaro announced Congressman Ron Paul as the winner of the 2011 California Straw Poll.



A full breakdown of the results is copied below. A total of 833 ballots were cast during the 2011 Straw Poll which included a write-in opportunity for the first time.



The 2011 California Straw Poll was held on Saturday, September 17th between 9:00AM – 5:00PM, where CRP members, associate members, and registered guests were allowed to choose their favorite from among the 11 official Republican presidential candidates.



2011 Straw Poll Full Results (Votes, %)



Congressman Ron Paul (374, 44.9%)

Governor Rick Perry (244, 29.3%)

Mitt Romney (74, 8.8%)

Congresswoman Michele Bachmann (64, 7.7%)

Jon Huntsman (17, 2.0%)

Herman Cain (15, 1.8%)

Newt Gingrich (14, 1.7%)

Thad McCotter (7, 0.8%)

Rick Santorum (7, 0.8%)

Gary Johnson (2, 0.2%)

Fred Karger (1, 0.1%)

Write-ins (15, 1.8%)

http://www.cagop.org/index.cfm/press_release_1500.htm
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VOTE FOR RON PAUL, enough said.

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Post by shakes4life Sun Sep 18, 2011 2:48 am


CAN RON PAUL WIN.....YES HE CAN.....

Ron Paul 2012 Infowars Special Report w/ Alex Jones and Lew Rockwell (8/25/2011) 2/3


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Post by ZZ101 Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:08 am

This is So COOL!!! :cheers:
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Post by shakes4life Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:47 am

ZZ101 wrote:This is So COOL!!! :cheers:


AMEN brother/sister....which ever you are! Smile
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Post by czinser Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:51 am

We thank you Father for this win and we ask in Jesus Name that he be elected
if he is the right man for the job.

Your will Lord. Give us the right man to turn our country back to one nation under God All Mighty
and who will make choices in our best interest.

Praise Jesus!!!!!!!!!

Blessings,
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Post by openmind Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:57 am

czinser wrote:We thank you Father for this win and we ask in Jesus Name that he be elected
if he is the right man for the job.

Your will Lord. Give us the right man to turn our country back to one nation under God All Mighty
and who will make choices in our best interest.

Praise Jesus!!!!!!!!!

Blessings,
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Post by Gmansaid Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:05 pm

Paul is starting to look unstoppable.

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Post by justicar Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:34 pm

Bout dang time we had a decent man run for President most times I would have voted for Mickey Mouse the choices were so bad. If and when he does become the republican choice we all need to pray he is well guarded and Guided from the evil ones. He has done an outstanding job of sticking to his guns may the future be as strong for him. The Restoration will be Done.

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Post by openmind Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:43 pm

Just watch this:


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Post by gmahunni Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:45 pm

Good News!! :cheers:
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Post by Texas Creek Johnson Sun Sep 18, 2011 4:50 pm

well maybe he will win, at the least the country will be calm they will be stoned all the time on pot. Ya think thats why he won in Calf.
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Post by shakes4life Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:06 pm

justicar wrote:Bout dang time we had a decent man run for President most times I would have voted for Mickey Mouse the choices were so bad. If and when he does become the republican choice we all need to pray he is well guarded and Guided from the evil ones. He has done an outstanding job of sticking to his guns may the future be as strong for him. The Restoration will be Done.


You got that right justicar.....I really worry about his safety sometimes....the EVIL ones don't like him and they are on both sides of the aisle unfortunately!! GBU my friend! Smile
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Post by shakes4life Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:13 pm

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Just watch this:


That is a WOW video and to punctuate it's importance the campaign raised nearly a million dollars for the Dr. of the Constitution in a mere 24 hours....the average donation of $50....NOW THAT'S SOME SUPPORT!!!
JOIN THE REVOLUTION IN 2012 VOTE RON PAUL....THE ONLY ONE WE CAN TRUST TO DO THE THINGS HE SAYS HE WILL DO.....

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Post by shakes4life Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:17 pm

Texas Creek Johnson wrote:well maybe he will win, at the least the country will be calm they will be stoned all the time on pot. Ya think thats why he won in Calf.

NOPE.....I think he won because folks are waking up and tired of the same old same old nonsense with the RINO's and the DemoCRAPS always doing the same thing......it's called the two headed snake that needs to be brought down with a true CONSTITUTIONALIST! Join the REVOLUTION.....VOTE RON PAUL IN 2012!!!
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Post by gmahunni Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:47 pm

Texas Creek Johnson wrote:well maybe he will win, at the least the country will be calm they will be stoned all the time on pot. Ya think thats why he won in Calf.

Do you REALLY think that those who WANT to smoke pot aren't already doing it?? WILL YOU start smoking it, if the drug war ends?? I never have, and never plan to (unless needed for medicinal/pain relief purposes), so what is it to you? Why do we have to CONTROL people? God gives us freedom to choose, so who are we to restrict it if people want/need it? I'm all for consequences for crimes against people, but what crime is it against YOU if someone chooses to smoke pot or, say, drink a beer?

I get that lower inhibitions CAN result in crimes committed, however, we go overboard by making something illegal because it MIGHT make someone more disposed to committing a crime! We have to stop thinking that we do anything good for people by controlling their behavior. Our laws are supposed to be in place to address crimes already committed, but to criminalize a behavior that hurts no one but the user is ridiculous. I believe that if someone is going to commit a crime, they will do it with/without something that lowers their inhibitions. jmo

Our Government needs to Leave people ALONE! We have been so conditioned to believe that it's the Government's job to force people to behave the way SOME want them to. We buy into the premise that the Government can "protect us from ourselves." HOGWASH. Who is going to protect us from THEM? People need to really study out what Freedom truly means (not your freedom to control others, but your freedom to choose for yourself). Once you fully grasp the concept, Paul's positions make sense, because it's NOT about legislating one groups moral codes over others, but giving ALL the freedom to choose how to live their OWN life.

Be who you ARE. Let others BE who they are. It's really THAT simple.




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Post by shakes4life Sun Sep 18, 2011 5:54 pm

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Texas Creek Johnson wrote:well maybe he will win, at the least the country will be calm they will be stoned all the time on pot. Ya think thats why he won in Calf.

Do you REALLY think that those who WANT to smoke pot aren't already doing it?? WILL YOU start smoking it, if the drug war ends?? I never have, and never plan to (unless needed for medicinal/pain relief purposes), so what is it to you? Why do we have to CONTROL people? God gives us freedom to choose, so who are we to restrict it if people want/need it? I'm all for consequences for crimes against people, but what crime is it against YOU if someone chooses to smoke pot or, say, drink a beer?

I get that lower inhibitions CAN result in crimes committed, however, we go overboard by making something illegal because it MIGHT make someone more disposed to committing a crime! We have to stop thinking that we do anything good for people by controlling their behavior. Our laws are supposed to be in place to address crimes already committed, but to criminalize a behavior that hurts no one but the user is ridiculous. I believe that if someone is going to commit a crime, they will do it with/without something that lowers their inhibitions. jmo

Our Government needs to Leave people ALONE! We have been so conditioned to believe that it's the Government's job to force people to behave the way SOME want them to. We buy into the premise that the Government can "protect us from ourselves." HOGWASH. Who is going to protect us from THEM? People need to really study out what Freedom truly means (not your freedom to control others, but your freedom to choose for yourself). Once you fully grasp the concept, Paul's positions make sense, because it's NOT about legislating one groups moral codes over others, but giving ALL the freedom to choose how to live their OWN life.

Be who you ARE. Let others BE who they are. It's really THAT simple.






WELL said there gmahunni......it's called LEGALIZING FREEDOM and the RON PAUL SUPPORTERS CALL IT LEGALIZING THE CONSTITUTION....GO FIGURE....we now have to legalize the Constitution...that's how far away we have drifted since the founders gave us that beautiful document along with the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights.....let's get them back people......

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Post by openmind Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:27 pm

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Post by Hankman Sun Sep 18, 2011 8:36 pm

shakes4life wrote:So let's see how the LAME STREAM MEDIA and the NEO CONS spin this straw poll win.....OH and don't you know....Dr. Paul is UNELECTABLE....NOT if "we the people" say he's not!!! Way to go Dr. Paul...WE LOVE YOU! Smile Ron PAUL IS NOT FOR ISRAEL !!!! so he will not win so get this CRAPP off here !! no body wants to hear it !!! This is supposed to be an open forum for Dinar talk and we are sick and tired of you pushing a loser !! PERIOD !!!!!!!


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With 45 percent of the vote, Ron Paul wins the GOP California Straw Poll!

http://www.cagop.org/index.cfm/press_release_1500.htm

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Post by kirkl Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:25 pm

You altered shakes post Hankman ? You have sunk to a new disgusting low. Goes to show how evil minded people will lie to you to make their point.

Israel has enough nucs to wipe out the middle east. They don't need our support. This is just another lie to perpetuate war and hate.
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Post by rosienogg Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:59 pm


Great News !!!!

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Post by shakes4life Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:13 pm

Hankman wrote:
shakes4life wrote:So let's see how the LAME STREAM MEDIA and the NEO CONS spin this straw poll win.....OH and don't you know....Dr. Paul is UNELECTABLE....NOT if "we the people" say he's not!!! Way to go Dr. Paul...WE LOVE YOU! Smile Ron PAUL IS NOT FOR ISRAEL !!!! so he will not win so get this CRAPP off here !! no body wants to hear it !!! This is supposed to be an open forum for Dinar talk and we are sick and tired of you pushing a loser !! PERIOD !!!!!!!


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With 45 percent of the vote, Ron Paul wins the GOP California Straw Poll!

http://www.cagop.org/index.cfm/press_release_1500.htm


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Post by openmind Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:13 pm

Hankman, not cool bro, not cool at all.

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Post by Hankman Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:17 pm

kirkl wrote:You altered shakes post Hankman ? You have sunk to a new disgusting low. Goes to show how evil minded people will lie to you to make their point.

Israel has enough nukes to wipe out the middle east. They don't need our support. This is just another lie to perpetuate war and hate.
To whomever : I never altered anything this is the only place i know how to respond. It does'nt matter if they have a million nukes, bottom line is when you thumb your nose against Israel like Ron and Rand have done then the WORD plainly teach's that you will have the curse of GOD on you so we don't need another man in the white house thats against Israel PERIOD ! I don't care how good you think they are ! Democrat or republican IF YOUR NOT FOR ISRAEL MOST CHRISTIANS DON'T WANT YOU IN WHITE HOUSE !!!

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Post by openmind Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:20 pm

Hankman wrote:
kirkl wrote:You altered shakes post Hankman ? You have sunk to a new disgusting low. Goes to show how evil minded people will lie to you to make their point.

Israel has enough nukes to wipe out the middle east. They don't need our support. This is just another lie to perpetuate war and hate.
To whomever : I never altered anything this is the only place i know how to respond. It does'nt matter if they have a million nukes, bottom line is when you thumb your nose against Israel like Ron and Rand have done then the WORD plainly teach's that you will have the curse of GOD on you so we don't need another man in the white house thats against Israel PERIOD ! I don't care how good you think they are ! Democrat or republican IF YOUR NOT FOR ISRAEL MOST CHRISTIANS DON'T WANT YOU IN WHITE HOUSE !!!

Learn something. The Israel of the Bible isn't the Israel of today. Both have Jews living in their homeland, but both governments are 2000 years apart and not, NOT the same. Today's Israels can't commit crimes and hide behind the fact that a Godly kingdom used to exist with the same name.

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Post by shakes4life Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:36 pm

Hankman wrote:
kirkl wrote:You altered shakes post Hankman ? You have sunk to a new disgusting low. Goes to show how evil minded people will lie to you to make their point.

Israel has enough nukes to wipe out the middle east. They don't need our support. This is just another lie to perpetuate war and hate.
To whomever : I never altered anything this is the only place i know how to respond. It does'nt matter if they have a million nukes, bottom line is when you thumb your nose against Israel like Ron and Rand have done then the WORD plainly teach's that you will have the curse of GOD on you so we don't need another man in the white house thats against Israel PERIOD ! I don't care how good you think they are ! Democrat or republican IF YOUR NOT FOR ISRAEL MOST CHRISTIANS DON'T WANT YOU IN WHITE HOUSE !!!

Doesn't seem Rand was cursed.....he was elected to the Senate in 2010 and is LOVED in Kentucky for his honesty and fighting for FREEDOM.....and the GOOD DOCTOR is on his way to winning nearly all the straw polls so far or at least getting second place....NOT to mention that TEXANS LOVE him...elected 12 times to the Congress....they love him ten fold over PHONY BALONEY RICK THE PRICK!

TANKMAN.....What you fail to understand and continue to misinform folks about is that Dr.Paul and his son love all people including Israel.....what they and the majority of Americans who are on to the game now don't like is the government....this isn't about the people....they are mostly all good....just like the Americans....it is about the corrupted governments in both nations that need to be taken down.....so STOP with the BS nonsense when we all know Dr. Paul is the only one we can trust and is a man of integrity and peace! NOT BUYING YOUR BULLCRAP!
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Post by shakes4life Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:38 pm

openmind wrote:
Hankman wrote:
kirkl wrote:You altered shakes post Hankman ? You have sunk to a new disgusting low. Goes to show how evil minded people will lie to you to make their point.

Israel has enough nukes to wipe out the middle east. They don't need our support. This is just another lie to perpetuate war and hate.
To whomever : I never altered anything this is the only place i know how to respond. It does'nt matter if they have a million nukes, bottom line is when you thumb your nose against Israel like Ron and Rand have done then the WORD plainly teach's that you will have the curse of GOD on you so we don't need another man in the white house thats against Israel PERIOD ! I don't care how good you think they are ! Democrat or republican IF YOUR NOT FOR ISRAEL MOST CHRISTIANS DON'T WANT YOU IN WHITE HOUSE !!!

Learn something. The Israel of the Bible isn't the Israel of today. Both have Jews living in their homeland, but both governments are 2000 years apart and not, NOT the same. Today's Israels can't commit crimes and hide behind the fact that a Godly kingdom used to exist with the same name.

Exactly right openmind.....spread your manure some where else HANKMAN....we are on to you!
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Post by Gmansaid Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:32 am

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Texas Creek Johnson wrote:well maybe he will win, at the least the country will be calm they will be stoned all the time on pot. Ya think thats why he won in Calf.

Do you REALLY think that those who WANT to smoke pot aren't already doing it?? WILL YOU start smoking it, if the drug war ends?? I never have, and never plan to (unless needed for medicinal/pain relief purposes), so what is it to you? Why do we have to CONTROL people? God gives us freedom to choose, so who are we to restrict it if people want/need it? I'm all for consequences for crimes against people, but what crime is it against YOU if someone chooses to smoke pot or, say, drink a beer?

I get that lower inhibitions CAN result in crimes committed, however, we go overboard by making something illegal because it MIGHT make someone more disposed to committing a crime! We have to stop thinking that we do anything good for people by controlling their behavior. Our laws are supposed to be in place to address crimes already committed, but to criminalize a behavior that hurts no one but the user is ridiculous. I believe that if someone is going to commit a crime, they will do it with/without something that lowers their inhibitions. jmo

Our Government needs to Leave people ALONE! We have been so conditioned to believe that it's the Government's job to force people to behave the way SOME want them to. We buy into the premise that the Government can "protect us from ourselves." HOGWASH. Who is going to protect us from THEM? People need to really study out what Freedom truly means (not your freedom to control others, but your freedom to choose for yourself). Once you fully grasp the concept, Paul's positions make sense, because it's NOT about legislating one groups moral codes over others, but giving ALL the freedom to choose how to live their OWN life.

Be who you ARE. Let others BE who they are. It's really THAT simple.





I like your attitude...

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Post by Hankman Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:43 pm

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kirkl wrote:You altered shakes post Hankman ? You have sunk to a new disgusting low. Goes to show how evil minded people will lie to you to make their point.

Israel has enough nukes to wipe out the middle east. They don't need our support. This is just another lie to perpetuate war and hate.
To whomever : I never altered anything this is the only place i know how to respond. It does'nt matter if they have a million nukes, bottom line is when you thumb your nose against Israel like Ron and Rand have done then the WORD plainly teach's that you will have the curse of GOD on you so we don't need another man in the white house thats against Israel PERIOD ! I don't care how good you think they are ! Democrat or republican IF YOUR NOT FOR ISRAEL MOST CHRISTIANS DON'T WANT YOU IN WHITE HOUSE !!!

Doesn't seem Rand was cursed.....he was elected to the Senate in 2010 and is LOVED in Kentucky for his honesty and fighting for FREEDOM.....and the GOOD DOCTOR is on his way to winning nearly all the straw polls so far or at least getting second place....NOT to mention that TEXANS LOVE him...elected 12 times to the Congress....they love him ten fold over PHONY BALONEY RICK THE PRICK!

TANKMAN.....What you fail to understand and continue to misinform folks about is that Dr.Paul and his son love all people including Israel.....what they and the majority of Americans who are on to the game now don't like is the government....this isn't about the people....they are mostly all good....just like the Americans....it is about the corrupted governments in both nations that need to be taken down.....so STOP with the BS nonsense when we all know Dr. Paul is the only one we can trust and is a man of integrity and peace! NOT BUYING YOUR BULLCRAP!
RAND PAUL was helped voted in by me fyi and i live in ky so don't tell me about the curse of GOD ! He did'nt come against Israel till after he was voted in but i will gaurantee you if he don't change his stance on Israel he will be a one termer in this state !!!

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Post by openmind Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:51 pm

To Hankman:

THE ISRAEL OF KING DAVID AND OF THE PROPHET ABRAHAM IS NOT THE SAME ISRAEL, AS THAT OF BIBI NETHENYAHU!

THERE WASN'T SECTARIAN VIOLENCE IN ANCIENT ISRAEL, THERE WEREN'T FIGHTS WITH LOCALS BECAUSE ALL THE LOCAL TRIBES CO-EXISTED. UNLIKE TODAY!

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Post by shakes4life Mon Sep 19, 2011 11:10 pm

Hankman wrote:
shakes4life wrote:
Hankman wrote:
kirkl wrote:You altered shakes post Hankman ? You have sunk to a new disgusting low. Goes to show how evil minded people will lie to you to make their point.

Israel has enough nukes to wipe out the middle east. They don't need our support. This is just another lie to perpetuate war and hate.
To whomever : I never altered anything this is the only place i know how to respond. It does'nt matter if they have a million nukes, bottom line is when you thumb your nose against Israel like Ron and Rand have done then the WORD plainly teach's that you will have the curse of GOD on you so we don't need another man in the white house thats against Israel PERIOD ! I don't care how good you think they are ! Democrat or republican IF YOUR NOT FOR ISRAEL MOST CHRISTIANS DON'T WANT YOU IN WHITE HOUSE !!!

Doesn't seem Rand was cursed.....he was elected to the Senate in 2010 and is LOVED in Kentucky for his honesty and fighting for FREEDOM.....and the GOOD DOCTOR is on his way to winning nearly all the straw polls so far or at least getting second place....NOT to mention that TEXANS LOVE him...elected 12 times to the Congress....they love him ten fold over PHONY BALONEY RICK THE PRICK!

TANKMAN.....What you fail to understand and continue to misinform folks about is that Dr.Paul and his son love all people including Israel.....what they and the majority of Americans who are on to the game now don't like is the government....this isn't about the people....they are mostly all good....just like the Americans....it is about the corrupted governments in both nations that need to be taken down.....so STOP with the BS nonsense when we all know Dr. Paul is the only one we can trust and is a man of integrity and peace! NOT BUYING YOUR BULLCRAP!
RAND PAUL was helped voted in by me fyi and i live in ky so don't tell me about the curse of GOD ! He did'nt come against Israel till after he was voted in but i will gaurantee you if he don't change his stance on Israel he will be a one termer in this state !!!

Whatever Rand's stance is on ISRAEL now is the same as it was before he was elected and I'm sure it is the same as his father's which is correct...end all foreign aid including Israel and there is NOTHING wrong with that and it doesn't mean they DON'T like Israel....far from it!

BTW....it's about time ISRAEL STOPS controlling America.....we don't need to send them or anyone else money....in case you haven't heard we are bankrupt! Israel has corrupt leaders.....it's not the people.....WAKE UP DUDE...just like here....we have CORRUPT leaders....it is NOT the people.... Funny how what he actually says and believes is no where close to what you are insinuating about him.......love YOUTUBE.....easy to call out LIARS like you!!

Senator Rand Paul: End Israel Aid

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Post by Hankman Tue Sep 20, 2011 12:46 am

shakes4life wrote:
openmind wrote:
Hankman wrote:
kirkl wrote:You altered shakes post Hankman ? You have sunk to a new disgusting low. Goes to show how evil minded people will lie to you to make their point.

Israel has enough nukes to wipe out the middle east. They don't need our support. This is just another lie to perpetuate war and hate.
To whomever : I never altered anything this is the only place i know how to respond. It does'nt matter if they have a million nukes, bottom line is when you thumb your nose against Israel like Ron and Rand have done then the WORD plainly teach's that you will have the curse of GOD on you so we don't need another man in the white house thats against Israel PERIOD ! I don't care how good you think they are ! Democrat or republican IF YOUR NOT FOR ISRAEL MOST CHRISTIANS DON'T WANT YOU IN WHITE HOUSE !!!

Learn something. The Israel of the Bible isn't the Israel of today. Both have Jews living in their homeland, but both governments are 2000 years apart and not, NOT the same. Today's Israels can't commit crimes and hide behind the fact that a Godly kingdom used to exist with the same name.

Exactly right openmind.....spread your manure some where else HANKMAN....we are on to you!
Ron PAUL will not win PERIOD !! If we went his way on foreign policy we would have wars being fought in our own land cause he don't want to go there to get rid of the terriost !! THIS IS ANOTHER REASON WHY ron paul CANNOT and WILL NOT WIN !! Trust me time will prove it out !!

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Post by openmind Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:03 am

Hankman, not saying Paul will win. Nope Im saying Obama will win. Unless Paul is nominated from this side.

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Post by Hankman Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:18 am

openmind wrote:Hankman, not saying Paul will win. Nope Im saying Obama will win. Unless Paul is nominated from this side.
( quote= hankman ) Openmind , Sorry i did'nt mean to call ron paul a loser. I just got upset and still am when someone wants to cut funding to Israel, but i agree with ron on alot of stuff and have watched him for years. But to respond about obama ,no i think at this point any republican or democrate for that matter will beat him cause he has torn this country apart and it's going to be only by the grace of GOD we get it back !! I do believe all these mill&billions of dollars being sent to other countrys need to be cut asap.I think we need a fence along our boarders and security put in place of all those funds going over seas.

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Post by openmind Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:37 am

Hankman wrote:
openmind wrote:Hankman, not saying Paul will win. Nope Im saying Obama will win. Unless Paul is nominated from this side.
( quote= hankman ) Openmind , Sorry i did'nt mean to call ron paul a loser. I just got upset and still am when someone wants to cut funding to Israel, but i agree with ron on alot of stuff and have watched him for years. But to respond about obama ,no i think at this point any republican or democrate for that matter will beat him cause he has torn this country apart and it's going to be only by the grace of GOD we get it back !! I do believe all these mill&billions of dollars being sent to other countrys need to be cut asap.I think we need a fence along our boarders and security put in place of all those funds going over seas.

Netanyahu said in front of Congress:

"My friends, you don’t need to do nation building in Israel. We’re already built. You don’t need to export democracy to Israel. We’ve already got it. You don’t need to send American troops to defend Israel. We defend ourselves. You’ve been very generous in giving us tools to do the job of defending Israel on our own. Thank you all, and thank you President Obama, for your steadfast commitment to Israel’s security. I know economic times are tough. I deeply appreciate this.

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/05/24/video-and-transcript-benjamin-netanyahus-speech-congress#ixzz1YT55HniP"


All Dr. Paul is saying is that foreign aid, no matter who its for is nothing more than taking money from poor people in rich countries to give to rich people in poor countries. He isn't against Israel, he is against spending we can't afford, Its a fiscal issue, not a religious one.


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Post by shakes4life Tue Sep 20, 2011 1:50 am

Hankman wrote:
shakes4life wrote:
openmind wrote:
Hankman wrote:
kirkl wrote:You altered shakes post Hankman ? You have sunk to a new disgusting low. Goes to show how evil minded people will lie to you to make their point.

Israel has enough nukes to wipe out the middle east. They don't need our support. This is just another lie to perpetuate war and hate.
To whomever : I never altered anything this is the only place i know how to respond. It does'nt matter if they have a million nukes, bottom line is when you thumb your nose against Israel like Ron and Rand have done then the WORD plainly teach's that you will have the curse of GOD on you so we don't need another man in the white house thats against Israel PERIOD ! I don't care how good you think they are ! Democrat or republican IF YOUR NOT FOR ISRAEL MOST CHRISTIANS DON'T WANT YOU IN WHITE HOUSE !!!

Learn something. The Israel of the Bible isn't the Israel of today. Both have Jews living in their homeland, but both governments are 2000 years apart and not, NOT the same. Today's Israels can't commit crimes and hide behind the fact that a Godly kingdom used to exist with the same name.

Exactly right openmind.....spread your manure some where else HANKMAN....we are on to you!
Ron PAUL will not win PERIOD !! If we went his way on foreign policy we would have wars being fought in our own land cause he don't want to go there to get rid of the terriost !! THIS IS ANOTHER REASON WHY ron paul CANNOT and WILL NOT WIN !! Trust me time will prove it out !!

I wouldn't trust you as far as I could throw you....your BS is chop full of LIES! There is NO evidence or facts to back up any of your statements and the Good Doctor has the words of those who commit terrorist acts against us...they all say it's because we are occupiers in their LAND......TIME TO GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE SANDBOX!! Dr. Paul is correct....the facts prove it out.......

A WAR ON FREEDOM/TERROR

Unfortunately, we continue to hear people say that islamic extremism is nothing more than a war on American freedom and prosperity; we continue to settle for the false assumption that terrorist’s are trying to kill us because of hatred towards who we are. A position that still continues to foster debate as anyone of us who watched our most recent Presidential debate saw displayed. Congressman Paul tried to explain that the idea of our enemies wanting to attack us because of who we are and our freedoms is rather silly, but Senator Santorum firmly opposed Congressman Paul stating that, “We were not attacked because of our actions, we were attacked because we have a civilization antithetical to the Jihadists, and they want to kill us because of who we are and what we stand for; we stand for American exceptionalism, we stand for freedom and opportunity for everybody around the world, and I’m not ashamed to do that.”

Congressman Paul went on to say that, “as long as this country follows that idea were gonna be under a lot of danger. This idea that the whole Muslim world is responsible for this, and their attacking us because we’re free and prosperous… that is just not true. Osama Bin Laden, and Al Qaeda have been explicit, and they wrote and said that we attacked America because you had bases on our holy land in Saudi Arabia, you do not give Palestinians a fair treatment, and you’ve been bombing (the crowd interrupts Congressman Paul by booing) He says, “I’m trying to get you to understand what their motive was behind the bombing. At the same time we had been killing hundreds of Iraqi’s for ten years. Wouldn’t you be annoyed? If you’re not annoyed.. then there’s some problem.”

While Congressman Paul’s stance on this issue isn’t popular, it’s correct; and extensive research into 2,000 different terrorist attacks confirm his position.

Much to our surprise, the statistics prove that the words freedom and terrorism are not diametrically opposed, because the main cause of suicide terrorism is our unwillingness to allow them the freedom to live as they want to. Terror is not a war on freedom. Rather, freedom is the only way to defeat the war on terror. If we would give people the same freedom that we seek to claim for ourselves here at home, then they would not feel the need to attack us, and we could live in peace.


THE FACTS

Vast new research on suicide terrorism has produced important new knowledge.

Here is a summary of what we (CPOST) know:

• Occupation Causes Suicide Terrorism
Over 95% of all suicide attacks are in response to foreign occupation

• The More Occupation, the More Suicide Terrorism
As America has occupied two large Muslim countries, Afghanistan and Iraq with a total population of about 60 million, total suicide attacks worldwide have risen dramatically — from about 300 from 1980 to 2003 to 2000+ from 2004 to 2010. Further, 90% of all suicide attacks are now anti-American.

This is information that we all owe it to ourselves to examine, because many lives are at stake in regards to this issue, and if we can gain an understanding that can promote the things that made this country great, we should. If there’s a better way of dealing with the world while promoting, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness… then we should be all for it! And I think the path we have and are currently taking is counter-productive to everything we as Americans are supposed to stand for.

http://cpost.uchicago.edu/blog/2011/09/03/robert-a-pape-the-end-of-fear-the-beginning-of-understanding/
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