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Post by justpassntime Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:52 pm

Is it right to pray for money when God and Jesus had no need for it?

Shouldn't the prayer be used for opportunities to reveal themselves and then have the ability to recognize and conduct yourself in a proper manner when the opportunity presents itself?

I find it offensive to hear people pray for money and other material things when that is not what life is about. scratch

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Post by greenlight Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:22 pm

justpassntime wrote:Is it right to pray for money when God and Jesus had no need for it?

Shouldn't the prayer be used for opportunities to reveal themselves and then have the ability to recognize and conduct yourself in a proper manner when the opportunity presents itself?

I find it offensive to hear people pray for money and other material things when that is not what life is about. scratch
I'm with ya on that, for sure. Prayer can be used for meeting the needs of oneself or of others, but to make one rich??? That's greed.
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Post by Goldenfan Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:35 pm

justpassntime,


Just my opinion but I really do believe that how people pray, what they pray about, and how each person perceives God is between each individual and their God.

I suppose that my view is the supreme version of "Freedom of Speech".

I personally don't like Big Government interfering in my daily life and I don't like people telling me about their religion or mine.

Hey, before I forget, has that pay raise come through yet?

Thanks for the question though!

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Post by justpassntime Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:35 pm

It was not a question to raise doubt about your belief or faith, just questioning my belief in what is right or wrong. While not being a religious person I do still value many of the same things you do. If the Spirit is not in your soul or being it will not matter what house you go to whether it be Gods or your own.

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Post by justpassntime Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:39 pm

Goldenfan wrote:justpassntime,


Just my opinion but I really do believe that how people pray, what they pray about, and how each person perceives God is between each individual and their God.

I suppose that my view is the supreme version of "Freedom of Speech".

I personally don't like Big Government interfering in my daily life and I don't like people telling me about their religion or mine.

Hey, before I forget, has that pay raise come through yet?

Thanks for the question though!


Not yet on the pay raise still waiting....

As for the Freedom of Speech, Wasn't that meant for individuals to voice their opinion towards government without reprisal? Not so you could go call your neighbor an a$$.

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Post by Siaya Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:42 pm

Prayer to our living God is NOT to ask for things, or personal material gains. Jesus said to his disciples, when they asked him HOW to pray:

Matthew 6:6-8
But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. [7] But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. [8] Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him
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Our Father in heaven already KNOWS what we have need of in life. Our prayers are to be heaven sent for US to grow in HOPE and TRUST that God will always honor HIS Word as we pray according to HIS WILL. Paul, as an apostle of God shared that we are to pray for wisdom, spiritual understanding, HOW to walk in faith, HOW to be used of the Lord. No where did Jesus EVER teach his disciples to pray FOR MONEY or for personal gain. They were to GIVE LIFE to others by witness and God always provided for them.

Peter and John said to the lame man at the gate beautiful when they went to the temple for their hour of prayer:


Acts 3:1-6
Now Peter and John went up together into the temple at the hour of prayer, being the ninth hour. [2] And a certain man lame from his mother's womb was carried, whom they laid daily at the gate of the temple which is called Beautiful, to ask alms of them that entered into the temple; [3] Who seeing Peter and John about to go into the temple asked an alms. [4] And Peter, fastening his eyes upon him with John, said, Look on us. [5] And he gave heed unto them, expecting to receive something of them. [6] Then Peter said, Silver and gold have I none; but such as I have give I thee: In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth rise up and wal
k.

I pray this helps you, and thanks for the good question. When it comes to faith, OUR views and opinions mean nothing. What IS WRITTEN, in the Word of God, means all.

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Post by Goldenfan Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:52 pm

Hey Justpassntime,

Your being a little serious here!

In never thought that you were raising doubt about my belief or faith. Not even for a minute.

I would never describe myself as "religious". I am spiritual if nothing else.

I'm just a believer in the concept that a person's spiritual beliefs are between them and the God they believe in.

I have a ridiculous amount of "Bible Thumpers" knocking on my door and asking me to come in to my home and tell me about their beliefs in God.

I tell each group the same thing: "that I am respectful of their religious beliefs to the point that I don't knock on the front door of their homes and tell them that my view of God is better than theirs and can I come in to show them".

I then ask the groups not to come back to my home. If they come back, I am not pleasant about their repeat visit.

Maybe I should move away from this posting. I did not mean to "start" anything.

Good luck on the RV!
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Post by justpassntime Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:54 pm

That was not meant towards you in a personal way. Sorry if you took it such. bigsmile

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Post by Goldenfan Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:56 pm

justpassntime,


After I finished reading the posting by Siaya all I have to say to you is"


1. See what you started? LOL!

2. Why I think one's spiritual beliefs are no one else's business.


Good luck with post, I have a feeling that it's going to get hot in here!
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Post by justpassntime Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:00 pm

Goldenfan wrote:justpassntime,


After I finished reading the posting by Siaya all I have to say to you is"


1. See what you started? LOL!

2. Why I think one's spiritual beliefs are no one else's business.


Good luck with post, I have a feeling that it's going to get hot in here!

Yeah...Kinda figured it would but everyone needs a break from the RV drama.

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Post by Guest Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:20 pm

justpassntime wrote:Is it right to pray for money when God and Jesus had no need for it?

Shouldn't the prayer be used for opportunities to reveal themselves and then have the ability to recognize and conduct yourself in a proper manner when the opportunity presents itself?

I find it offensive to hear people pray for money and other material things when that is not what life is about. scratch


Then explain this one to me. "You have not because you ask not" - Jesus

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Post by Splovengates Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:35 pm

"I Know GOD Won’t Give Me
Anything I Can’t Handle.
I Just Wish He Didn’t
Trust Me So Much"

Mother teresa

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Post by Splovengates Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:39 pm

You can do more than pray
after you’ve prayed,
but you can do no more than pray
until you’ve prayed

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"Things are looking very favorable for today into tomorrow night. Be ready between sunday and monday night, or maybe tuesday or wednesday. Could also be thursday but definitely by friday.... probably next week, monday or late tuesday night, wednesday morning to hear the RV and should be cashing in on the following tuesday the 1st of the month. Sooner more than later. This is an education in patience. GO RV GO Splovengates/CaptJerry

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Post by Splovengates Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:43 pm

Prayer is the answer to every problem in life.
It puts us in tune with Divine Wisdom which knows how to adjust everything perfectly.
So often we do not pray in certain situations, because from our perspective the outlook is hopeless. But, nothing is impossible with God. Nothing is so entangled that it cannot be remedied. No human relationship is too strained for God to bring about reconciliation and understanding. No habit so deep rooted that it cannot be overcome. No one is so weak that he cannot be healed. No mind is so dull that it cannot be made brilliant.
Whatever we need if we trust God He will supply it.
If anything is causing worry and anxiety, let us stop rehearsing the difficulty and trust God for healing, love and power.

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"Things are looking very favorable for today into tomorrow night. Be ready between sunday and monday night, or maybe tuesday or wednesday. Could also be thursday but definitely by friday.... probably next week, monday or late tuesday night, wednesday morning to hear the RV and should be cashing in on the following tuesday the 1st of the month. Sooner more than later. This is an education in patience. GO RV GO Splovengates/CaptJerry

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Post by SBM0601 Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:32 pm

justpassntime wrote:Is it right to pray for money when God and Jesus had no need for it?

Shouldn't the prayer be used for opportunities to reveal themselves and then have the ability to recognize and conduct yourself in a proper manner when the opportunity presents itself?

I find it offensive to hear people pray for money and other material things when that is not what life is about. scratch
God says it many times in the Bible if you ask you shall recieve. He talks in many differant occasions about prayer and being prosperous because of it and your belief. He is not going to answer a prayer for a mecedes but he will answer a prayer for money as long as you deserve it and you tithe your 10% and the money you get is to be used in his name and not for bad things
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