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Post by MD13 Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:32 pm

I GUESS IRAQ IS GONNA WANNA USE THE AMERICAN DOLLAR FOREVER AND NOT WANNA HAVE THEIR OWN CURRENCY

....NOT



....AND IF THEY DO, THEY WILL MAKE NEW ONES AND THE OLD ONES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PAYING SO MANY BILLS ON TO SO MANY WILL BE NULL AND VOID

...NOT


IRAQ WILL BECOME A MEMBER

OF THE WTO

AND THEIR CURRENCY

WILL BECOME

AN INTERNATIONAL

LIVE TRADING CURRENCY




ITS JUST WHEN




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Post by FS4Enthusiast Thu Aug 13, 2015 12:43 pm

MD13 wrote:
I GUESS IRAQ IS GONNA WANNA USE THE AMERICAN DOLLAR FOREVER AND NOT WANNA HAVE THEIR OWN CURRENCY
....NOT

They have their own currency.  Surprised you don't know this, since you own some of it.


....AND IF THEY DO, THEY WILL MAKE NEW ONES AND THE OLD ONES THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PAYING SO MANY BILLS ON TO SO MANY WILL BE NULL AND VOID
...NOT

It's called a redenomination and it's happened 50+ times over the last century.  You know what hasn't happened?  Ever?  A 10,000 - 300,000%+ RV.

The bills don't become null and void, they get replaced.  Whether or not it will be easy or possible to replace trillions of them that have left Iraq is another matter, and up for debate.


IRAQ WILL BECOME A MEMBER
OF THE WTO
AND THEIR CURRENCY
WILL BECOME
AN INTERNATIONAL
LIVE TRADING CURRENCY



ITS JUST WHEN


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It wasn't international when you could get it from WF in the US?  What exactly does being international mean then?

Why would it go up in value if it were "international"?  Why would there be any increased demand for it when the only thing that Iraq sells is oil and that isn't purchased in dinar?  And Iraq wouldn't WANT it to be purchased in dinar, they'd much rather have USD and Euros and Yuan or whatever else, because they can use those to easily purchase the imports that they so desperately need.

Isn't Vietnam a member of the WTO? Isn't their currency international? Isn't their currency worth 1/20th of Iraq's?

Sorry, but all your arguments and statements are typical guru BS that don't hold a drop of water.

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Post by MD13 Thu Aug 13, 2015 2:08 pm

Re-denomination has nothing to do with Re-valuation. When a currency is redenominated the central bank of that country will reissue notes at a decided ratios for both speculators and its citizens. For ex., If you have a 1000 INR note and Reserve Bank of India (RBI) redenominated at a ratio 1:10 then RBI will take your old 1000 INR note and issue you new 100 INR whose value stays the same.


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Post by FS4Enthusiast Thu Aug 13, 2015 2:57 pm

MD13 wrote:Re-denomination has nothing to do with Re-valuation. When a currency is redenominated the central bank of that country will reissue notes at a decided ratios for both speculators and its citizens. For ex., If you have a 1000 INR note and Reserve Bank of India (RBI) redenominated at a ratio 1:10 then RBI will take your old 1000 INR note and issue you new 100 INR whose value stays the same.

I didn't say that they did. I was explaining a redenomination to you since you seem confused about it.

oh and all your arguments and statements are typical no clue about the real currency world of trading and base petro oil currency exchange pay

Do you actually have any facts or arguments, or are you just going to sit here and say that everyone else has no clue, while saying absolutely nothing yourself?

Let's start with a few simple questions for you:

What approximately is the money supply of Iraq?

What was the money supply when the dinar was worth 3 dollars?

How do Iraqs currency reserves compare to the amount of dinar they have printed?

How does the GDP/money supply for Iraq compare to that of neighboring countries, and how would that change if they RVd to 10 cents or 1 USD?

Please, use your extensive knowledge of "the real currency world of trading" to start with the above, and then we'll move on from there.

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Post by MD13 Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:30 pm

Please PLEASE

go have a chat with a

REAL CURRENCY TRADING PROFESSIONAL,

you need it, you have no real clue to how

money supply and banking works when it comes to print vs banking systems



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Post by FS4Enthusiast Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:33 pm

MD13 wrote:
Please PLEASE
go have a chat with a
REAL CURRENCY TRADING PROFESSIONAL,
you need it, you have no real clue to how
money supply and banking works when it comes to print vs banking systems

There is not a single "real currency trading professional" on the planet with even half a brain that thinks the dinar is going to RV (or float) to even a penny.

Now either answer the questions or admit you have no clue what you're talking about and zip it.

Look at what you're posting.  No facts.  No logic.  No arguments.  Just "You're wrong, you don't know!"

It's like talking to a 6 year old.

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Post by MD13 Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:41 pm


There is not a single "real currency trading professional"

The Bloomberg Professional service offers a comprehensive Foreign Exchange platform to help currency professionals control exposure and risk while taking advantage of market opportunities.


http://www.bloomberg.com/professional/foreign-exchange/
 

Top 24 Foreign Exchange Analyst profiles | LinkedIn

YES,

YOUR ARE RIGHT,
TALKING TO YOU FS4Enthusiast
IS LIKE
TALKING TO A  6 year old.

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Post by FS4Enthusiast Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:44 pm

Wow, you can link to bloombergs website. Where does it say the dinar is going to massively increase in value?

Why are you incapable of answering simple questions?

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Post by MD13 Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:48 pm

Why are you incapable of answering simple questions?
... OK HERE YOU GO


FS4Enthusiast,
There is not a single "real currency trading professional" on the planet





I SAY....

http://www.bloomberg.com/professional/foreign-exchange/
 

Top 24 Foreign Exchange Analyst profiles | LinkedIn

so let me guess those there and all over the world are not professionals, who Have been working in the currency trading world thier whole life and they know nowthing and dont exsist....

YOU HAVE NO CLUE


FS4Enthusiast,




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Post by FS4Enthusiast Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:51 pm

It seems like you're having a serious problem here. I see nothing at your link about the dinar at all, let alone about it massively increasing in value.

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Post by MD13 Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:53 pm

:panda :


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Post by FS4Enthusiast Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:54 pm

MD13 wrote:Why are you incapable of answering simple questions?
... OK HERE YOU GO


FS4Enthusiast,
There is not a single "real currency trading professional" on the planet



Really? What's the rest of that sentence? You can't ignore the rest of it. Obviously I did not say that there's no such thing as someone that trades currency for a profession.

You're either trolling or you have some serious cognitive issues.

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Post by MD13 Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:57 pm

Nice try, you have no clue
and its MORE THEN OBVIOUS,



START HERE WITH YOUR CURRENCY TRAINING

http://www.oanda.com/help/currency-definition



THEN GO CALL SOME TRADERS, THEN GO SPEND SOME TIME WITH SOME CURRENCY TRADERS

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Post by FS4Enthusiast Thu Aug 13, 2015 3:59 pm

I don't need to, because there is not a single "real currency trading professional" on the planet with even half a brain that thinks the dinar is going to RV (or float) to even a penny.

Just people like yourself that don't have the first clue how currencies work, that have been scammed by gurus into throwing money away on a complete impossibility.

Why are you incapable of answering simple questions?

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Post by MD13 Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:01 pm



:panda :


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Post by FS4Enthusiast Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:03 pm

What approximately is the money supply of Iraq?

What was the money supply when the dinar was worth 3 dollars?

How do Iraqs currency reserves compare to the amount of dinar they have printed?

How does the GDP/money supply for Iraq compare to that of neighboring countries, and how would that change if they RVd to 10 cents or 1 USD?


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Post by FS4Enthusiast Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:06 pm

Why are you here if you do not have the ability to have a discussion about the dinar? Just to spread lies and ignorance? Is someone paying you to go to dinar forums and lie in order to sell dinar?

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Post by MD13 Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:11 pm

Nice try, I dont tell people to buy anything, show me where I did, oh wait thats your only come back for people who put you in your place and prove you wrong, people like you who state for a fact that it wont happen when NO ONE knows for sure either way, proves you just have
no other life
but to do this online

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Post by MD13 Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:16 pm

http://www.cbi.iq/documents/Tender-En-xprl%20%285-2015%29.pdf

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Post by FS4Enthusiast Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:17 pm

MD13 wrote:http://www.cbi.iq/documents/Tender-En-xprl%20%285-2015%29.pdf

Lol, yeah, so what?

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Post by FS4Enthusiast Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:19 pm

MD13, if you're not capable of answering these questions, or you're so clueless that you think they're not relevant, then there's really no point in anyone talking to you. Might as well try and discuss currencies with a dog turd:

What approximately is the money supply of Iraq?

What was the money supply when the dinar was worth 3 dollars?

How do Iraqs currency reserves compare to the amount of dinar they have printed?

How does the GDP/money supply for Iraq compare to that of neighboring countries, and how would that change if they RVd to 10 cents or 1 USD?

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Post by FS4Enthusiast Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:20 pm

MD13 wrote:
Nice try, I dont tell people to buy anything, show me where I did, oh wait thats your only come back for people who put you in your place and prove you wrong, people like you who state for a fact that it wont happen when NO ONE knows for sure either way, proves you just have
no other life
but to do this online

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Lol, where have you proven me wrong about anything?

You won't (or can't) even answer simple questions, yet you think you've somehow won the argument and proven me wrong.

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Post by Ssmith Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:28 pm

Cindy.....Give it up.  This is really getting hard to watch.  You stumbling around like you're punch drunk.  Admit defeat.  Go home now.

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Post by dwm007 Thu Aug 13, 2015 5:37 pm

WOW I'm late!!!!

What's wrong with those people? MD obviously does not have a clue as to the answers to the questions asked and I have no doubt would not know what those numbers meant if he/she saw them!

MD if you are still around let me help you out a bit here,

Iraq's money supply is +90 TRILLION Dinars -THAT'S their total liability and the amount they have to back. A $1 "RV" would give Iraq a net worth of 90 TRILLION Dollars (more than twice the currency that collectively exists on Planet Earth!) and they have at most 70 to 80 BILLION Dollars (being generous with the figures, you can look them up it's actually a bit less) to back up that 90 TRILLION! That's over 1000 times more Dinars than Dollars backing them meaning the Dinar is over 1000 times LESS valuable than the Dollar or about,,,,,let's see here,,,,,,ah here we go 1166 to 1!



When the Dinar was worth $3 they had approximately the same amount (+/-75 Billion) Dollars worth of reserves BUT they only had around 25 BILLION Dinars instead of over 90 TRILLION as they do today, ok 75 Billion backing 25 Billion gives us,,,,,,,,guess what $3!!!!!!!!!


It's easy if you just get your head out of ,,,,,,,,,,,,err, the clouds and look at the figures, the figures don't lie but gurus do!

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Post by RamblerNash Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:48 pm

MD13 wrote:

:panda :


Why delete your posts?

It makes the conversation hard to follow and incomplete.

Do you not have something important to post, or do you want to hide it for some reason?

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Post by Ponee Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:39 pm

AAAAHHHHH  we sure do get some fiesty ones

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Post by RamblerNash Sun Jan 07, 2018 2:52 pm

Don't forget Cindy813, md13's wife, being an idiot herself...

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They're ALL idiots as far as I'm concerned-To hell's dungeon with all of 'em-
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